The Toast - The Presidential Podcast Wars: Thursday, October 24th, 2024
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Good morning, Millennials, and welcome back to the Toast.
Happy Thursday.
That has very Friday energy to it, not in the good sort of celebratory weekend way,
in the very conclusive kind of way.
Yeah, in the way that like tomorrow when we wake up, we're going to realize that it's
still a weekday and that's going to be hard.
And what's going to make it harder is knowing that my turdy's not down the hall and up the
stairs for me.
Yeah.
She's even though we're miles and miles and miles apart.
You're probably wondering, like, wow, Turdy, you look so ugly today.
And that's because I'm getting on an airplane.
Like, I wasn't giving full glam for the toast.
I'm sorry.
I wasn't thinking that.
No, I'm talking to the viewers.
They weren't thinking it either.
You're too hard on yourself.
What they're probably thinking is, oh, what's that sweatshirt Turdy wearing?
Is that merch that I missed?
No, it's merch that was never released because we weren't sure if people would want it this sort of creamsicle color like i love a
creamsicle but i also know like i have plenty in my dna and not everybody does no let me tell you
i am wearing it today and i've worn it a few times because all i wear is merch when i'm down at your
house let me say i think we made the right call like i'm not loving it i think we made the right
call i think some people would have bought it but it wouldn't have been gangbusters but i'm glad that we made a sample so that I have it and I can wear it when I'm feeling
creamy.
I have so much to say today.
I have lots of thoughts on things.
OK, I'll give you the floor.
First is that there's a story we're going to talk about that like serious.
I don't know if I've been so excited to dissect a story, Hugh Jackman and Sutton Foster, like
in so long.
OK, I'm not going to say anything about it because that's a story.
The second thing is two things.
Like I need to comment on influencer culture
really quickly, okay?
Because we're obviously getting into the time,
make a plan, right?
Bring a snack.
And I have to say like the influencers are influencing.
They are doing what needs to be done.
Like I think we're right on track
for like literally every single one
of your favorite influencers.
If they're not doing an endorsement,
they are doing like a vote.
Use this link to make a plan,
find an elderly neighbor to take with you, bring a snack and don't forget an umbrella. Right. But the they are doing like a vote use this link to make a plan find an elderly neighbor
to take with you bring a snack and don't forget an umbrella right but the influencers are doing
something that I think we speak about every year but this year in particular is actually really
bothering me and I am saying exclusively to influencers because I haven't seen celebrities
doing it yet but like people are already getting started with Halloween wait Halloween's next week
no like already doing stuff like costumes and stuff. Oh, are you talking about Jake Shane?
You know what?
I am talking about Jake Shane.
Seriously.
And I feel like I can say this because I love him.
And like, we don't know what we're doing yet for Halloween.
But like we were maybe thinking of doing something like similar to what he did,
like in terms of like pop girls.
Now he went and did it literally eight days before Halloween.
Like that's not fair.
No.
And also like, so what is he going to be doing on actual Halloween probably busy that's why he like released it like good on you for planning
but like I agree with you like Halloween is not well I guess people are going to be celebrating
Halloween this weekend some people like what parties are we're going to start seeing costumes
this weekend and we'll have to accept that but for like the worker bees to be doing their Halloween
content right now like James Charles like like they're making their content,
you know,
like you get dressed up for Halloween and go to a party,
but as an influencer,
you also get dressed up and like do a photo shoot and then like take it all
off and go home.
And so I'm starting to see some of the photo shoots roll out.
Too soon.
Too soon.
And I feel like because I have a great relationship with Jake Shane,
like I can call him out and letting him know,
like you need to do less.
Yeah.
You're making the rest of us look bad.
And people keep saying,
Jackie and Claudia haven't discussed
like what this is the first year where we still don't know what yeah usually by this point we know
what we're being we have some ideas floating around but obviously none of them is like powerful
enough to just walk yeah for us to call it yeah um so i think that is also a reason why like what
jay shane did is even more bothersome yeah i feel like we've been talking what jake shane did is even more hurt bothersome yeah i feel like
we've been talking about jake shane a lot just because in the vlog um if you thought we saw
jake shane at the beach the other day definitely saw jake shane's older brother cousin yeah we
definitely did um so that's what the influencers are getting up to and then like i've kind of
reached like a breaking point yesterday i'm having this like sort of weird like relationship with my phone these days like
it makes me sick usually like my bed rotting time where I can literally spend like two hours before
bed just scrolling different apps like is my greatest joy and it's actually making me sick
these days mentally or physically mentally that's a good question it's also making me physically ill
like the whole thing I just kind of like I'm feeling like I like rejecting my phone like I'm just like whenever I go downstairs
to like hang out with you and the kids I'm like you know I'm literally leaving my phone up here
I don't want to be with it like yeah and I'm trying to figure out like what that has to do
with and I do think a lot of it has to do with the election like I'm just so sick of hearing
about people who aren't me like it's enough already yeah well it's less than two weeks right
yeah it's just like I've had enough like kamala this trump that like what about me like
i'm seriously sick of it i understand no and like the podcast war is being like so a part of this
election and nobody came knocking at our doors like i feel sick we didn't put ourselves in the
fight but we kind of hoped that someone would ask us to come knocking yeah because we couldn't go
out and pitch people but if somebody came to us like we would have no matter who it was like we
would we would have had no choice and we would have done it yeah but they would have to come
into my house and sit in front of the flamingos
oh you would want them to fly down to toast hq i just feel like that would be hysterical i also
feel like and if we had a presidential candidate in my house i also think it would be like the the
security team for whatever presidential candidate would actually prefer that this is like much more
secure than like a hotel with like a million people it's just your house right and we i guess
there's still two weeks and people are still doing stuff now the veeps are really hitting the circuit oh I saw on comedy charts
Tim Walls and JD Vance by the way if you looked at the comedy charts this week it was JD Vance
Tim Walls Jackie's uh era's tour Jackie's version yeah just yeah that feels right three icons yeah
so maybe a veep will reach out to us um but again by the way it's not fair for us to complain
because we've done zero outreach
and like we haven't even put ourselves in the game.
However, like if a toaster working on a campaign listens to the toast, like she would have
known that we were open.
OK, I just want to say so.
I happen to I did like a little bit of research.
I actually might have even forgotten to tell you this.
I do know that there is a toaster like pretty high up on one of the campaigns.
Not the VP, the P.
Can you tell me which one?
Oh.
Yeah, I looked at her Instagram.
Like I was just doing recon to see if like anybody,
like are we just like making stuff up or like are we actually maybe,
like our name was definitely floated across a couple desks.
Like I'm sorry, I have to believe that it was.
And then I saw this Swirly who's like head of comms or whatever
was following us.
So yeah, no, it's just like interesting.
It's not meant to be. So I am sick of it. Like I've really had enough. Okay, well, it's just like interesting. It's not meant to be.
So I am sick of it.
Like I've really had enough.
Okay, well, there's still two more weeks,
probably gonna be like the most volume
in these next two weeks.
It's like enough already.
And then hopefully it will be quiet.
However, speaking of the podcast, Presidential Wars,
Trump is on Joe Rogan today.
That's like, it's like the podcast wars
are just like kind of over, you know?
Like once Joe Rogan stepped in,
it's like, hope you kids had fun up until now. Right. It's funny that when Kamala did
Call Her Daddy, we're like, will Trump do the toast? Will Trump do the toast? No,
straight to Joe Rogan. He'll do Joe Rogan. I wonder if he went to Joe Rogan's studio.
100%. You have to think about the security of these things, though. You know, one time
I happened to have been, not to make everything about me, in the service bubble so like wherever the president goes they create a bubble like I don't
know what the actual radius is it's probably like a mile like around where like every building is
totally secure and there was a fundraiser in my old building like a very rich person lived in my
building there was a fundraiser for Biden while he was present well he still is but he was the
radius wouldn't have been a mile in the city that's like the entire city oh yeah probably
because it was like six blocks you were in the building no but it was like like when I was walking home from work like I had to show my
idea like every corner to get in got it um and it was like and then like walking Romeo but I was
like oh it was Theo back then I was loving the attention I was like Ben I'll walk Theo tonight
he was like really why you literally never have yeah I just like wanted to see what was going on
like maybe I would be leaving the building the exact time. I met a couple of Secret Service agents.
We had some good chats.
Did I ever share this on the toast?
I feel like you did.
And what are they doing chatting to you?
What else are they doing?
They literally are just standing in the elevators.
Oh, they're busy.
The ones that I was talking to,
their job was to like be the elevator button pusher.
Like you couldn't push your own buttons even.
It was really secure.
Got it.
And I asked, I'm like, so like,
I think I said like, what if you like,
what if your personal politics like disagree with the person you said like what if you like get into what if your
personal politics like disagree with the person you're protecting he's like we literally don't
give a shit like we have a job to do yeah I think you could ask that question about a lot of people
in like government yeah military they were really nice too and they gave all the staff in my
building like presidential pins and like everyone was so excited I was like kind of jealous oh I'm
sorry yeah but it was it was like a cool thing to be a part of.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That is cool.
So like I said, it's very secure.
Lots of things need to be done.
So I don't know if like Joe Rogan's ranch is approved.
No, I think that it is.
One, everyone goes there.
And two, like Trump is,
he's the one who's like more mobile right now,
like on his plane,
jetting here, jetting there.
No, no, no.
And so it's like they're on the road.
What's one stop in Austin?
It can be done. You know, like she was going to be in so it's like they're on the road. What's one stop in Austin? It can be done.
Yeah.
You know, like she was going to be in Vegas.
Like they're just on the move.
Mm hmm.
Mm hmm.
Kind of upsetting.
And also, I don't think it would be the same if he wasn't in the studio because Joe Rogan
has really never left the studio.
That would be the crazy thing.
Does he ever leave the studio?
No, I don't think I've ever seen him.
And I think he did like once like a South by Southwest pop up and he literally recreated
his own studio. I know you don't watch the reels I send you anymore
but did you watch the reel I sent you that was like a spoof on Joe Rogan it was so funny you
just been like kind of like taking it to the next level in terms of volume no like one it's because
I love you of course of course of course and two and you're thinking of me these are expertly
curated for your personal preferences let me tell you like a day will come and we've also been together so i'm like she'll probably
just tell me in person like i will like a moment will come where i'll sit down and like watch
everything i missed all at once which obviously is not the best way but it's it's the way i'm
currently surviving well the concept of the reel was about how like joe rogan and his guests will
like spoof and like take a joke like really, really far, like just fucking around.
And then Joe Rogan will kind of like be like,
well, that couldn't happen.
Like the person will like give their next like,
oh, and then the zombies shoot out lasers.
And then he's like, well, zombies can shoot out lasers.
It was funny to me.
We have a great show today.
Just let's do a quick run of show, shall we?
It's Thursday.
Q-R-S-T-U-V-W-X-Y-N-Z. have a great show today just let's do a quick run of show shall we it's thursday r s t u v w x y and
z no it's a great day because thursdays are always really relaxed around here we're wedged between
wednesday's chaos of dear toasters and friday's drama of queenie and weenie so we just kind of
get to relax and unclench today the stories are like very casual they are casual and it's aside
from sutton foster um the rest of the four
like are pretty interchangeable in a good way because that's giving like we're all doing our
part like we're all equal players we all have a lot to contribute I think we all sing and we
all make news I agree I agree so I look forward to that I look forward to that too and then it's
also our final show together in florida which like i'm sad
that you're leaving but i finally gotten to the place that you're at which it's like i prefer
remote podcasting i am so glad to hear that like i don't know i thought you were crazy for saying
that i always thought it was like your way of like just making it seem like you know remote
better it's better because it's what we fucking do because it's our only option right but it's
better it's better i'm so glad you've come. Because it's our only option. Right. But it's better. It's better.
I'm so glad you've come around.
I literally hate podcasting with you in person.
And it sucks because I wish I liked it more because I would spend more time.
Like seriously.
No, it's like I need to build you a studio in my house.
So we can still do it separately.
Podcast.
I like the way it looks better remotely.
I like the way I perform better remotely.
I don't know.
I don't fuck with like sitting so close to you.
I agree.
However, the plus side of being together is the
content for patreon yeah no we really crushed it this week we filmed a mukbang last night also I
was on the phone with Shannon this morning yeah I was on the phone with Shannon this morning and I
needed to find a way to sneak that in it was a face time and Taylor was there too wow I just
needed to humble brag for a second that's interesting and i told her how we mukbang last night
and she was like it's called a mukbang it is called a mukbang but it's also it is and i'm
like we've been doing this for six years calling it mukbang and like i that wasn't even me majji
johnning it like i it's a korean phrase i believe it was invented in asia maybe not korea it was
invented in asia it's like a very popular form of entertainment there.
So however we say it, we're probably mispronouncing it.
So I think if you want to be like really like indigenous, you could say mukbang.
But like the American version is.
Like we're going harder on the wrong pronunciation.
Mukbang.
That's like a really good question.
She looked to me like I had six heads.
And it wasn't even me like doing the elk of dreamers.
Right, right, right.
Where I know I'm using the word wrong.
Mukbang pronunciation. six heads and it wasn't even me like doing the elk of dreamers right i know i'm using the word wrong bang pronunciation i'm i like this like this google were they mukbang mukbang thanks shannon wow that's crazy okay all right well that's out of that we'll see
we'll see where it goes from here yeah so yeah i
was on the phone with shannon not a big deal okay rub it in like not a big yeah i knew you would be
jealous yeah of course i am i had to bring it up well i'm always jealous when you're on the phone
with shannon so yeah because we talk all the time um should we dive in we have a lot to get into
today i think we should and you have a flight to catch. Not feelings. Catching flights, not feelings. Never, never. I'm like not a motive at all. Yucky. Yucky. Well, you do your thing.
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Oh yeah, fuck yeah. Sutton Foster files for divorce from her husband of 10 years, Ted Griffin,
amid relationship rumors with Hugh Jackman.
I had not heard these rumors.
Me neither.
So Sutton Foster, who's the star of Younger, has filed for divorce from Ocean's Eleven screenwriter Ted Griffin.
Okay, good to know that that's what he does.
You know, and who knew that she had like this kind of high profile businessman beau in the industry?
Husband, like I'm learning so much about her.
And I actually, like shit, it's giving Charles.
I mean, it is giving Charles.
Amid buzz that she's moving on with her former Music Man co-star, Hugh Jackman.
So yeah, so many things about Sutton Foster that you wouldn't expect.
Like, she was in Younger.
She actually is the age of the character, even though she looked a lot younger.
She looks amazing.
She is also, like, one of the most world-renowned Broadway actresses, like, of our time, singing,
dancing, the whole thing.
Yes.
And then she was in a revival of The Music Man on Broadway with Hugh Jackman and I remember when that was happening it was just recently and rave reviews like everyone in New York was like you have to go you have to go
obviously I didn't you know I hate Broadway however at the time Hugh Jackman was married to
of course Deb Furness Deb Furness my Debs he would call her a few years ago we reported that
they had split even though they were together they were one of those Hollywoodllywood couples that like she actually was older than him they were together
forever she was like a producer behind the scenes and they just seemed like solid solid as you're
worried about them that's how the news was shocking was it a few years ago it was it was a
while ago it was a while ago yeah i want to say that maybe two years right and then um now sutton
has filed for divorce and rumors that the marriage was on the rocks
began swirling in broadway circles when she was starring in the music man with hugh jackman
apparently but of course i would have dismissed that all as hooey because like of course two
beautiful good looking talented people are going to gravitate towards each other and like you're
going to just make something that you're gonna make out of nothing yeah but now ever multiple
sources have told page six which would be the publication for this because it's a broadway thing yeah that the two
have fallen in love and if that's the case like i ship so hard first of all we absolutely love to
see an age-appropriate relationship in hollywood they are so few and far between that when they
are here no matter even if like there was an overlap like maybe someone cheated like i don't
give a shit we need to like seriously encourage behavior like this we need to give them all the
love and all the follows and all the likes because people should be encouraged to date people their
own age in this industry so that's for one yeah he's 56 she's 49 and at this point like you can't
stop fate like if these two were destined to fall in love on the set of the music man like it was
gonna happen and everyone needs to get out of the way no and i think that like you know you hear this and people are automatically like cheaters right
but i think that like meeting someone that you're really taken by that doesn't automatically mean
you're like fucking like but it can plant seeds of doubt and you're like well i shouldn't be
feeling this way about someone if i was so solid in my marriage like there is a way to go about it
that's like respectful and i think like a year's long thing like this is the best way to go about
it like obviously seeds of doubt were planted for him.
Well, not obviously.
Who knows what the fuck happened.
All this could be fake too.
He and his wife split like a few years ago.
Like maybe because he saw that like he has stronger feelings for Sutton and like he shouldn't
feel that way.
So he left the relationship and now maybe Sutton is like coming to the same conclusion.
Whatever it is.
And there's like only a couple of pictures of them um together
Sutton and Hugh Jackman from like promo that aren't like on the stage like on a red carpet
everyone keeps using the same one where they're like hugging each other and like smiling at the
camera cheek to cheek do you see it yeah it's it's a photo that's filled with love it is however
it's also like a photo that you would take like with your platonic
castmate who you love.
Like,
yeah.
I hope that,
that it's love here.
Also a fun fact about this story
that's neither here nor there,
but important,
is that she picked out
her wedding dress
to Ocean's Eleven
on Say Yes to the Dress.
I don't believe you.
It's right here
in black and white.
She picked out her wedding dress
on TLC's Say Yes to the Dress when they got married married i just feel like they really didn't need to put that in
the article like but like i'm glad as i said this story is layered seton foster is layered i also
feel like seton foster is so cool because she's someone who had like a peak and like a real like
breakout moment in her career much later than you would think and i think like maybe it was like
discouraging or whatever but she was known in known in like more artsy circles before Younger.
Yeah.
But Younger really put her on the scene.
But like remember a few years ago when we were in Utah
and we were watching the Mormon Tabernacle Choir at Christmas.
It was just like what was on local TV.
And it was really beautiful.
And then the lead singer was Sutton Foster.
Yeah.
And she's not even Mormon.
I think they just like paid her to show up.
Because she's like a beautiful singer.
Yeah.
She's like a great.
There's Liza.
She's a great talent. There's Liza.
She's a great talent.
There's Liza.
There's Liza. There's like maybe one flaw in the movie.
Why was her name Liza?
I mean, in the show, Younger.
She didn't look like Eliza.
And she was like a suburban mom.
Like, her name wasn't Liza.
I think Liza is multi-generational.
And also, it's like derivative of Elizabeth.
So maybe when she was born, she was called Elizabeth.
Maybe later, she was Liza when she was trying to make it like cool maybe younger Lizzie Lizzie well I for one really
hope all of this is true and like even if it's not I'm so glad like this story brought me things
that I didn't know I needed to know like Sutton Foster's private life and also when I first saw
the story it took me a couple of seconds because I thought I was I just was reading it said Sutton
Foster but I was reading Sutton's track and I was like wait I
kind of ship I saw it with the photo and I've always known did you know that they were in the
music man on Broadway like I've always known that weirdly I hadn't forgotten that fact I don't think
my brain wanted me to forget for a reason and so I was like huh it took a few years but here we are
no I love it so much and I feel like you know because the took a few years, but here we are. No, I love it so much. And I feel like,
you know, because the entire time we've known Hugh Jackman, he's been married and the only real
like rumors about him were ever like that he's gay. And that's just because he like sings and
dances for a living, like no other proof. Um, so I'm glad he's like having like a swirly moment
with like a rumor, you know, like we love that for him. We've never had that. Yeah, we haven't.
We haven't. So I'm'm just gonna let these two like
take it from here I feel like they probably feel the need to like let some time pass yeah no don't
let the grass grow under your feet like you just don't ready we are comfortable we are ready seeing
PDA paparazzi pictures like go leave the house and you know like life is short and these two are
in the later seasons of their life later seasons there's no time to waste on your happiness it's
so true that's beautiful and like you already put in the time of waiting in the last few years like seriously come out
no by the way I need a reality show docu-series like I'm obsessed with these two
are you ready for our next story like I guess if it's not Sutton and Hugh like who gives a rip but
yeah it's um one of our favorite discussions, like topics of discussion.
Tailored Jason Travis podcast.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I love this.
Because Jason Kelsey is denying falling asleep at the Taylor Swift Eris tour show in Miami.
And I feel a real kinship to him in this moment. Of course you do.
He was attacked online.
He was attacked online for something that he didn't do.
Didn't do.
And it had to do with, you know.
The Eris tour.
The Eris tour.
And then he clarified on his podcast.
Literally you this week.
Classic us.
Oh, and then I want to say something.
So Jason Kelsey denied falling asleep at the Eris tour show in Miami on Friday after a
viral photo showed him appearing to doze off from his VIP box at the Hard Rock Stadium.
Travis asked him, you took a nap at Eris tour.
What's that all about?
And he immediately shut down his brother's assumption, telling him he did not take a nap.
He said, Travis, you know I did not take a nap.
I did not take a nap.
That's my plate.
He said that the show was electric.
They had a box because they brought the whole family.
It was Donna's first time.
The girls were going, so they were like,
let's bring everyone.
Let's get a box.
But I guess they didn't realize that the box that they got
was really in the middle of things.
There was no privacy.
So he was dancing, singing, everything up on his feet.
But he needed a break. And he said he um sat down and shut his eyes because that's something that he
used to do like when he was in jazz band and like just really feel the music and you can even see
in the photo that his hand is hovering above his leg because he's like in the mid yeah mid padding
and like bopping his knee up and down he said i was not sleeping i was just like feeling the music
in the way that i do and And Travis like did corroborate
like you do do that.
Yeah.
But he had like a negative experience
with like people attacking him
for not being into the Eros tour enough,
which I can relate to.
And to be completely honest,
I saw the craziest TikTok
I sent it to you yesterday
of these two swirlies
who are podcasters
who went to the Eros tour at Miami
the same weekend as us.
And they were talking about the tour
and then they did a whole part
on their segment
how the entire night was ruined
by their attempt to leave the concert.
They must've left at the very end
and they said, the way they described it,
like I had never felt better
about us getting out of Dodge 15 minutes early.
She said, they walked three miles.
Nobody at the facility knew where the,
where anyone was supposed to go.
So they would ask someone,
they'd say, oh, walk this way.
They'd walk a mile and then they meet someone else.
They said, no, that way.
Like complete disarray in their heels. Literally, she said, we were like on the side of the road in the pitch black, like on say, oh, walk this way. They'd walk a mile and then they'd meet someone else. They said, no, that way. Like complete disarray in their heels.
Literally, she said we were like on the side of the road in the pitch black, like on the
interstate, freaking out, like so scared, hysterically crying.
And they said a lot of people were walking on the side of the road.
Oh, yeah.
And the stadium like is right off the highway.
So that's just not safe.
No.
And the way they were describing it, like it reminded me of the last, like, was it maybe
two times ago I went to Luke Holmes
we ended up leaving um what's Gillette and it was we left at the end but we left um like through
the wrong entrance like I don't know where the hell we were because we had these like backstage
passes and we just like went out some random door and we were in the pitch black like on these scary
roads there was nobody there we were so afraid no Ubers could come behind us because every single
um road was closed it was me Margo and Emily like we were oh and it was raining we're crying walking in the rain in so much pain like we literally got
lost it was raining for eras too yeah um and it reminded me of that and i remember and i was the
oldest out of like margo and emily so i was the one who has like be in charge nobody was more
scared than me like pitch black in the middle of boston i don't know where the fuck i am we're
like walking these streets not a single car like so fucking scary um and the way they were describing it on
this podcast reminded me so much of that but honestly worse yeah no it sounded like everything
we were trying to avoid by just leaving a few mere songs early yeah a few more yeah no I have
to reach out to those girls and say thank you for just like just validating yeah yeah um but back to
Jason Kelsey so first of all like this is like a funny saga but I also think the way he responded
on his podcast I was cracking up watching the clip um like who knew Jason Kelsey. So first of all, this is like a funny saga, but I also think the way he responded on his podcast, I was cracking up watching the clip.
Like who knew Jason Kelsey was in jazz band?
Right.
We got to get him on stage at the Error's Tour next.
Like who knew that Jason Kelsey has these meditation practices
that we could all really try and learn from?
That's the thing about Jason Kelsey.
He's kind of like an onion.
Yeah.
And a podcast is such a great platform for someone
like that yeah because every episode we're learning new things about him it's true and
it was like really funny they were like talking and I like how we also said like I needed a break
like every you could see like everyone around us and at every show I've been to like has their
break songs whether it's like going to the bathroom getting a snack or just like sitting
down and resting your feet because so many of the girlies in specific like they spend months
getting their outfits ready and they're like wearing the most uncomfortable shits like Spanx heels and you need
a break and so even to see like a person who's in really great physical shape and who is a man
who's just wearing like sneakers him also needing a break like it felt validating yeah yeah it was
really funny it was really funny and I think the person who took the picture is actually his friend
yes and they were talking about the person who took the picture like on a first name basis yeah and jason was like seriously fuck you bo and travis
was like no that's a good friend because they're just like funny then they also like don't give a
shit and that's really nice it's it's refreshing but as long as the lurd wasn't offended of course
she wasn't offended like it's just absurd the swifties came so hard for jason kelsey i think
that was also kind of the first time any of them have experienced that side of the Swift because it's all fun when everybody loves you Travis yeah yeah yeah and
then oh wait you're sleeping at our girls concert like hey and so to see that side of the fandom
probably like spooked them a little bit yeah there was a lot of drama at Eris Miami wouldn't you say
after all by the way I would say there was a lot of drama at Eris Miami and I have to say I was
thinking about this the other day because I feel like a lot of people there are people who don't
like Taylor and they don't like have their reasons
right they just like oh she writes songs about her boyfriends like idiotic but I think a lot of
the times people's dislike for Taylor like is mistaken for a dislike for the for her fans
because there are like most of her fans are like normal people who just enjoy her music but like
any fandom but she is the biggest fandom so she has the most of those sort of like toxic ones
and I think a lot of times like people end up not liking Taylor because they
think like,
that's what all of her fans are like.
And they think that's what she's like.
And they just like,
you get that association from,
from that pocket of your fans.
And where was I going with this?
I don't know,
but I have a point to raise.
Sure.
Sure.
Sure.
Which is that what's so funny and what's like so ugly about the internet.
It's like when you go to a Taylor Swift concert,
there's actually nothing more beautiful than
like the Swifty energy and like the love and the trading of the bracelets.
And none of that internet ugliness is there whatsoever.
It's actually the sweetest place on earth.
It's so true.
And then everyone all of a sudden gets behind the screen as a keyboard warrior.
And that's where the ugliness happens.
And it's just a reminder, like get off the internet.
By the way, it's so true.
The Eros tour is like a culmination of just true joy and like real girlhood i know it's like for everyone but like yeah so we were saying like
so many mothers and daughters it was so sweet and like it really is this like irl moment of joy and
positivity and colors and music and really just it's not like a it's just like sweet it's for
kids like it's kid friendly and yes some of the discourse online but this is that's all things but
because taylor's community is so big no but that's just like a perfect like way to see like yeah yeah you could make that
case about other things but here's one yeah no that's a good point and do it that way you will
that's why turdy's putting her phone down that's why i'm putting my phone down like i'm kind of
over it i'm with you but it's just i told you my lesson from you and people are like it's our
family chat that keeps me addicted so true for me it's tiktok oh because when I when I was talking about that
mental and physical like sickness do a tiktok week without tiktok just once just like just
you want to know why I can't why because nobody would miss me no no not about like you not posting
and honestly like you can make content and like send it to someone to post like delete tiktok from your phone for one week see how you
feel and you know it might just be like an interesting experiment like for the toast like
yeah tell us what okay you know what yeah i like that i like that not right now but like maybe in
a few days okay i know you're taking a flight yeah of course yeah our next story is actually
semi-related to our second story. What number story? Three.
Okay.
Matty Healy is revealing why he's not interested in writing about romantic liaisons after his
tailored split.
And like, I'm frankly not interested in hearing about Matty Healy.
I know.
The way he talks is so dreadful and British and like not substantial.
Don't bring the British into this because they're actually like beautiful orators. It true it's true and those are the best shows they have the best writing like it
actually intellects like nothing to do with the british okay fine and everything to do with maddie
healy yeah so during an appearance on joshua citarella's podcast called doom scroll okay me
he revealed his thoughts on writing songs about previous relationships he said last year
I became a way more well-known public figure for loads of reasons the only reason that I was
interested in is kind of like what I was doing so I think that a lot of artists they become very
interested in their lore they become interested in the things that have happened outside of their
art that people know about and they want to address that and fair enough do you know what I mean no I guess I I I
get what he's saying right now up until this point okay um then he said that he was more open to
writing about heartbreak and all these stories about relationships on the first record but he
doesn't feel the need to do that anymore quote I would kind of just be lying if I made a record
about I don't know all the stuff that was said about me or my casual romantic liaisons or whatever
it may be that I've kind of become known for just because I was famous. I think that that's an obvious thing to draw from and I'm just
not interested in it. And I think like the maintenance of the status quo is something
that I always fight against. So yeah, that's where I'm, I'm lost. But he's basically saying
like, it's so pedestrian to like write music about other people that you've dated who are
famous. Like it's a low hanging fruit type of thing yeah
he said meanwhile up until this point that's exactly what he said he's a musician who writes
about love he's not just talking about the relationship which by the way he called like
casual three separate times right which is rude yeah he's also talking about the experience of
being this like public figure disliked person the experience of having an album written about him
like then he would write a retort to like how that made him feel like similar to how reputation is not about a love it's
about right an incident and he's saying that he doesn't have interest in writing about like
these incidents that took place in the public that that's not how what's music he wants right
he said so the idea of making a record about something that personally happened to me that
by the time I put it out is going to be like two years old I see people doing that as well and it's
not interesting so this is just like insult after insult.
Because the thing is like,
say what you want.
Yeah, people do it.
And they release things like three years.
It's still interesting.
Sorry.
Like I like it.
It's just,
it's giving very like condescending,
like, oh,
I know other people do that,
but like I'm better than that.
Yeah.
No.
And it is,
if he wanted to say his side of the story
in an album three years later,
like I think people would be,
it would be interesting. And I guess he's saying that that's not the stuff he wants to say his side of the story in an album three years later like i think people would be paying attention it would be interesting and i guess he's saying that that's not the stuff he
wants to make music about okay okay like we really don't care what you do like yeah plus don't
forget like now he's engaged yeah to that um lisa rena's daughter's twin lisa rena's daughter's
twin charlie xcx's friend i don't know if they're friends. Charlie XCX dates for a long time
another member of his band,
1975.
Oh, so they should be friends.
They probably are.
Her name is Gabrielle,
the girl that Maddie's.
I thought it's Gabrielle.
Oh, maybe it is.
Maybe I just like saw the word
I wanted to say, you know?
Yeah, but I think it's Gabrielle.
And there's like drama with her.
She actually has a lot of friends.
I feel like I always see her.
There's drama with Gabrielle
and Amelia Hamlin.
Gabrielle was hanging out
with Nora Smith
at Fashion Week in Milan. Oh, I wouldn't, an see her. There's drama with Gabrielle and Amelia Hamlin. Gabrielle was hanging out with Nara Smith at Fashion Week in Milan.
Oh, an unlikely duo.
Right?
Yeah, well, there's beef between her and Amelia Hamlin.
They're being twins.
Well, they said Amelia, who has went through a bit of a physical transformation in recent years,
is really similar style, makeup, everything to Gabrielle.
They say she just talks like Gabrielle. They say she say she like is like a single white female and gabrielle
like kendall and jace marie correct understand um back to maddie healy like literally we don't
care and especially like you were never going to be seen as the hero in in in this situation
like keep calling it casual say it again like i'll kill you it's so fucking rude but also um
now with like travis being in the mix it's like seriously like stop talking like it's it's giving
he could eat you for breakfast okay and it's like we all moved on so so quickly from you because
Travis did that for us like and actually the only way out of this mess is not to keep doing things
like this yeah but to put out an album or a body of work whether it's like a book or
anything where you explain yourself like other than that we don't want to hear from you about
this unless you have like any sort of side of the story that's different than what we have heard
which of course there is going to be of course and that's fine but like he keeps dismissing and
really gaslighting taylor like casual casual casual meanwhile these are people who have been
linked to one another for years there's nothing casual about seeing someone multiple times over the
course of your young adult life like all throughout your 20s it's actually so fucking like rude and
belittling to keep saying casual he didn't even say relationships like casual flings or whatever
like shut up it's actually so rude yeah and I also feel like no no it's not a full thought. It's not a whole thought.
Okay.
It's not a whole thought.
I feel that.
Not worth putting out there.
Never stop me, but yeah.
It's just not worth putting out there.
I love that.
Are you ready for our next story?
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Oh, yeah.
Couple things, couple things.
The Kardashian-Jenner family hosted a Wicked screening
with Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo and all of the kids.
So, Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo gave the Kardashian-Jenner clan
a taste of Oz during a special VIP screening
of their highly anticipated movie, Wicked.
Kim posted to her Instagram story showing a glimpse into the special event
hosted at her house with most of the grandkids and all of the girls except for Kendall.
I saw that funny comment.
Designated survivor.
They can't all be in one room at once.
But seriously, where was Kendall?
Why wouldn't she want to watch us?
I think it was for the kids.
And so all the moms were there, like, with their kids.
But, like, she's not going to go out of her way to, like, watch a movie.
But why?
Like, I guess this isn't, for us, it's, like, the coolest thing, right?
Like, if someone would just fucking show me Wicked right now, like, I would be so excited.
For her, it's just, like, another day in the life.
Yeah, like, maybe if she was free, she would have gone.
But she's not going to cancel her plans.
Yeah, I guess, I guess.
For, like, this special treat.
Okay, for the kids, this is this is like the coolest thing ever obviously they decked it out
like pink and green and balloons and snacks and popcorn signs like so cool but i actually saw such
an interesting tweet this morning that was like it was you know quote tweeting the pop crave thing
and actually was from tyler oakley like throwback the youtuber and he was like the fact that like
the overwhelming response to this is negative like really feels like it's marking a cultural shift like people
hated this like oh it's entitlement oh these kids are rats like they just hated everything about
this which I found so shocking because like to me like maybe there was a time where I would have
seen this picture and like gagged and died like no I thought it was really cute and like sweet I
didn't have like a visceral hatred reaction to it but the the internet did. I don't understand why this is surprising.
Like they, not about the internet.
That also shouldn't be surprising.
But like the Kardashians always get like early access to movies.
They have like big movie-thons in their backyard
and they do like cool things.
They always have like characters that they like
from trolls coming to the house.
Like why is this so crazy?
I feel like it's different.
Like and Ariana and Kim, like I don't know if they're friends,
but over the years they've like acknowledged one another. But then Pete yeah but in a positive way like it's all good like
and they should you know support Ari and Beauty and Skims like they're always hyping each other
up I find it surprising that like Cynthia would be a part of this because I feel like Cynthia would
she's like a theater kid right she would like hate the Kardashians like so mainstream like
I I found that like Ariana and Cynthia's involvement,
like the fact that they had a screening like isn't shocking.
And if the official Wicked, you know, company sent them like snacks,
like that's not shocking.
But Cynthia like and Ariana watching the movie with them,
like these kids, like I find that part a little shocking, no?
That they would want to, I guess.
But a lot of people really love them.
And I think also when you're in Hollywood
and like you actually have met them and like they were all at the Met Gals so say that they've met
like I think people really like them on a personal level I think so too and you like can't hate them
once you actually know them right they're like cool and fun and family oriented and like oddly
a little bit normal like yeah beyond you know obviously like being billionaires but so nothing
about this is surprising to me except for the fact that people were surprised by this yeah no and
people and that it's like a big deal and that why would you hate something
like this i don't know like for those kids oh that's probably so sick they probably don't even
realize they're seeing it early it's not like even like they could go to the movie theater next week
but this is just like things that that happen to them frequently it's not like yeah they see movies
at home yeah it's so cute it is really cute kids. Yeah, and this isn't even all of them.
This is mostly the girls.
And then two of the little boys who like, you know,
but like Mason's not there.
Rain's not there.
Right.
I don't think Mason would like want to see Wicked.
No, it's seriously like the cutest thing.
And who's this guy?
That's Frankie Grande's husband.
So like even Ariana brought her family.
Like it's surprising.
Now I saw this clip of Cynthia Erivo.
Rolling Stones, I don't know if it's like new.
They copied varieties like actors on actors.
They do musicians on musicians where they like pair two random musicians.
And they just talk about like life in the industry.
And so Cynthia Erivo was paired with Rene Rapp.
And Cynthia Erivo is talking about like what her aesthetic and like her vibe is when she records music in the studio.
And she was basically saying like she's taken so seriously like no alcohol is allowed in
the studio just her the piano guy and the sound engineer and Renee Rapp who obviously does things
so differently it's just sort of like listening being like okay that's cool her reaction she's
like actually actively disassociating it's so funny to watch and cynthia arrivo like seriously sounds dreadful in it like she's just
like so serious and i'm like okay like serious arrivo serious arrivo yeah that doesn't i like
people who are serious i do and i don't mind when people take themselves seriously if like what they
are doing is serious and i feel like she's like a serious vocalist yeah and she is and i like when
people take things seriously me too but just like it was giving it was like a serious vocalist. Yeah. And she is. And I like when people take things seriously. Me too.
But just like,
it was good.
It was like a little like,
okay.
You know?
Yeah.
Another thing about this picture,
obviously everybody's wearing custom skims.
That's like a wicked green.
Ari's wearing the pink and the kids are wearing definitely like skims kids.
It's so cute.
Did you see Christian?
Actually,
my friends from high school put it in the chat.
We were cracking up.
Did you see what Christian wore for Halloween? No. from high school put it in the chat. We were cracking up.
Did you see what Kris Jenner wore for Halloween?
No. I already saw her getting dressed up, you know.
She was like snow white.
And she was like kind of wearing like a really sexy snow white.
I was like really shocked to see.
Because she was like with her grandkids.
So it was like grandma is, you know, snow white.
And it was just like a little, you know.
Was that promo for that movie?
Look.
And swipe to the. Yeah. And by the way, she looks great. She does look great. But it's giving, you know. She doesn for that movie look like and swipe through that yeah by the way
she looks great she does look great but it's giving you like anyone's grandma the costume
from like why candy.com correct dolls kill sexy snow white dolls kill yeah is that funny that is
funny i'll switch with you switch back and then the second part of this story is the new skims
campaign that dropped with olivia munn um in honor of like breast cancer awareness month.
Olivia Munn is bearing her mastectomy scars in the new Skims campaign.
Oh my God.
I loved this so much.
Like I actually oddly felt like deeply moved by it.
And Olivia Munn shared the story of how it came to be and actually really liked the way it unfolded.
Skims did not come to her being like, let's exploit you for breast cancer awareness. Show your scars. It was just supposed to be like a regular campaign, like nothing having
to do. And I think maybe they decided that like a portion of the proceeds, because it was October,
would go to breast cancer awareness. And then it was Olivia Munn's idea to bear her scars because
she has this like really complicated relationship with them. Like she used to love her boobs and now
they're just like a reminder of this trauma. But she had this shift that was like, no, they're a
reminder of like everything that I've been through and how strong I am and like so many women are so ashamed of them that
like maybe if they saw one on a billboard like it wouldn't be that big of a deal and so the fact
that it was like all her idea I loved so much and I like honestly was like deeply touched by this
campaign yeah it really is beautiful and it's a beautiful story behind and I actually think it's
something that wouldn't move the needle to make other women just feel more comfortable I completely
agree like I think a lot of times people do stuff that's like so performative. It's going to help people. I actually
think it's not just helping yourself. It's so true. But I actually and Olivia Munn didn't say
like I want to help people like I just think she will help people by doing this and she looks so
gorgeous and her boobs look amazing like and I love Olivia Munn these days like I'm obsessed with
her and I think that like this actually will move the needle. Yes.
Yeah.
Really sweet.
And just great on all fronts.
Yeah.
Agreed.
Approved.
Approved.
Are you ready for our fifth and final story?
I am.
It wouldn't be a fifth and final story without there being some Rachel Ray news.
Oh my God.
What is our story getting into? Rachel Ray is in the news cycle now because she has her new podcast and she's making it
work.
So she's talking on her new podcast and giving a concerning health update weeks after the
Slurring Words Instagram video.
So she revealed on her debut episode of her podcast called I'm Sleep When I'm Dead, not
called 30 Minute Combos.
Literally the worst title ever.
That she recently suffered a couple bad falls but didn't go into more detail.
She said, and Jenny Mullen was the guest on her first episode.
Okay.
She said, I'm a homemaker. I love chores. I i love being in the kitchen i always work with my brain every day
i'm always writing something but i really like chores i like what people consider physical work
making dinners planning dinners making lists i actually have a lot in common with rachel anyway
she said i've had a couple bad falls in the last couple of weeks so i haven't been doing that in a
while she um does that
necessarily like have to do with the video I think that's like her alluding to okay because
she looked physically fine in the video it didn't look like she had taken a tumble
yeah it was more it kind of felt cerebral yeah that's weird I don't know I'm telling you something
is up with Rachel Ray yes yeah and this is not like then she does a podcast like when something's up with you you
don't start a podcast because you have to lay bare your life you don't invite in and she's
not someone who needs to stay relevant needs money like she has an empire she's set for life so like
this is a choice you're doing a podcast because you want to not because you have to and yeah i
don't know i don't know this answers no questions for me it just creates
more and i do feel like i should listen to the podcast in order to get like a full 360 picture
of miss reach and also like how is she talking on the podcast is she slurring like she wasn't
probably not because that would be news i think she had like a bad day and she was wanting to
make asobuko okay i mean we've all been there yeah you ever just like give up and want to make asobuco okay i mean we've all been there yeah you ever just like give up and want to make
asobuco like all the time yeah but then like why do you have a couple falls like in one short period
right it's giving claudia at a party drunk well yeah drunk yeah claudia at a party like you've
grown adults with their motor skills intact like don't take multiple falls unless there's, you know, you're impaired in some way, whether
that be alcohol or whether you have a physical disability.
But she isn't.
I don't know.
Like who just.
Yes, I fall all the time when I'm wearing my big clunky shoes and I'm taking tequila
shots.
When you're drunk.
Yeah.
Like it just it leads one to think.
Yeah.
So anyways, I should listen to the podcast.
Like if I want to continue to speak on Rachel Ray, can't promise I'm going to do it, which means what? I don't get to talk about her.
I don't want to continue to speak about Rachel Ray, but she's making it really hard. I like
talking about her. I think she's like a fun pop culture. I feel like I say this every point of
reference every time we bring her up, but like the, like, uh, like the open secret about Rachel
Ray is like, she's the nastiest woman alive.. You've never said that. Oh my God. They say, all alleged, all alleged, like she is evil.
What?
Like don't look me in the eyes type of thing.
What?
That's what they say.
That's really crazy.
I know.
That's really shocking.
Not that she pretends to like be like so jolly.
Suzy Homemaker.
But like, where do you get off?
Yeah, but where she gets off is the fact that she's literally a billionaire.
Yeah, I guess so.
But like was she always that way before i guess you can't no she's
been in this industry for a really long time like she probably just like started to think her shit
didn't stink and everything was coming up rachel and the talk show and the pet line and the home
line do you think that this is kind of like um a redemption arc for no like that that things are
gonna like i don't know i feel like maybe people are turning on her like
the fact that people did call out this is like her ellen moment maybe the beginning of something
maybe i've never heard that where did you hear that like from literally everyone everyone's
talking about it yeah let's give them something to talk about i mean if you were trying to make
like veal parmesan in 30 minutes like wouldn't you kind of be a crazy bitch too?
You would also be stressed.
Yeah.
It's not meant to be done.
That's the thing.
Yeah.
No, they put, they gave her like this sort of daunting task over at Food Network and
she's never recovered.
Yeah.
Like it's, you can make a 30 minute meal if you're on crack.
It's so true.
It's just like, it's not, it's not a great environment.
Yeah.
It's an impossible task.
Well, that's a wrap on Toasty Florida HQ for me.
Yeah, like a little jaunt to Florida.
I'm headed to the airport.
So like I said, that's why I look so ugly.
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