The Toast - The Reason Passed Muster: Tuesday, December 3rd, 2024

Episode Date: December 3, 2024

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Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to the Toast and happy Tuesday, or should I say happy Curtin Day to all who celebrate. It's Curtin Day too, and speaking of curtains, hey Jax, how you doing? I'm darn good. I've chosen the curtain life today. We kind of left you guys on a cliffhanger yesterday.

That was also coupled with some misinformation about December 4th. Today is December 3rd. I am on the toast. You did not get Ben. It was a make it work moment and we made it work. So, curtains and I- Yeah, Ben said no.

Ben, did he have good reason? Yes, he is actually back to back shoots today. You know, he's in Brooklyn already filming, you know, collab content, food content, you know, chef like things. content, you know, chef-like things. His reason past muster. What? His reason past muster.

What? Okay, his reason, P-A-S-S-E-D, space, M-U-S-T-E-R. It wasn't that I couldn't like phonetically hear. I seriously have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Like it, it's approved. Oh. More or less. Yeah, I approve. It was a good reason.

It was a legitimate excuse. Is that what you were trying to say? It was a good reason. His reason passed muster. Oh, it passed the muster? But- It's just a phrase. It's not a phrase, I've never heard it.

And you know I know all the phrases. Okay, now you're making me feel like it's not a phrase. Let me just- And when did you learn this phrase yesterday? Because you've never in our, we're sisters, I've known you your whole fucking life. You have never said that phrase. Okay, to pass muster means to be accepted

as adequate or satisfactory. His reason passed muster. Is that a phrase? Is reason pass muster a phrase or just pass muster means something? Pass muster in the dictionary means to be accepted as adequate. That's literally his reason pass muster. Okay. And no, you're right.

I don't, it's not like in the last 24 hours I heard that phrase and now I'm bringing it to the show. Okay. And no, you're right. I don't, it's not like in the last 24 hours I heard that phrase and now I'm bringing it to the show. I don't know what recess, I don't know what recess of my mind it came from. I don't know what inspired me. Well guess what? That is not past muster of you.

Okay. Oh my God. Like you ever talk to somebody and they immediately like start speaking Chinese. I literally had no idea what the hell you were talking about. His reason passed muster. Yeah, so- And I'm excited for him that he's hitting

the mean streets of Brooklyn to film content. Yes, yes. More on that. More on that, yes, he's shooting with two acceptable people. You guys know my bar these days, like can't let these people get too close to Ben. You know, he's kind of blowing up. His breath.

His breath, first of all. And second of all, like, I don't know. I'm not just letting any old, any old girl come through. So today he's filming Alex Gornashelly. No Alex Gornashelly, she should be on my, and by the way, they, Ben sent me like one of the videos that they made. And he like asked me if I liked it before he posted it yesterday.

And I definitely like, I saw sparks. I just want to say like, I was shipping them like. Not the Gorn. Yeah, I saw sparks. I just want to say like, I was shipping them. Like. Not the gorn. Yeah. She's approved. Today he's filming with somebody who is a man. So obviously that's okay with me. Pargylicious.

Pargylicious. And then he's also filming with a woman who is not interested in men. So also okay with me. Love that. Yeah. And what are these things that he's filming? Like for his, where will we see them?

Ben likes to do all different types of Q labs. Like some for his page. These are at someone else's studio. So when that happens, it's like that person's content. And then Ben will like rent a studio and that's for him. You know, whoever's like taking the cost, I think. I don't know how it works in the chefy space. The chefy space.

Well, speaking of Ben filming stuff, I have to talk about what you guys did last night, even though I'm sure you were going to. Oh, actually, I totally forgot. I literally have done like a thousand. We were filming really early this morning because Jax is heading home finally, thank God. Back to our equilibrium, although I will miss the curtain.

I'll miss the pargenus of this studio and the ultra HJ and staring camp right in the eye. So I totally forgot that last night, like I was so busy. Not me literally working till 9 p.m. I mean, I'm just try being an influencer for a day. Try it. You, Margot and Ben did an Amazon live. I watched most of it.

It was so funny. I think that doing Amazon live is like literally my calling. I love to be on camera. So that's just fun. The Amazon live studio, it's like really high budget. When you're an influencer, everything you do is low budget, right? Like you do it on your phone, look at our studio.

Like, yeah, like, but this is like being on TV. It's really like, I would say it's probably just as high quality, maybe even more that it's like QVC or HSM, like the home shopping networks. So it's, I mean, it's like a team of like 50 people in the control room. Like you look like you're on NBC. It's really crazy.

I saw someone posted the control room. It's so crazy. So it's just fun to be in that type of fancy environment. And I just think I really was in this life meant to have an Amazon live show or like one type of home shopping. I'm really very- To sell, sell, sell.

I feel very passionate about the products. Well, that's because I get to choose the products. I don't think if you're on QVC do you get to choose what you're selling. You just have to hawk stuff. But Amazon live is based on your storefront. So you get to choose the items. I did Dyson Airw hawk stuff. But Amazon Live is based on your storefront, so you get to choose the items. I did Dyson Airwrap, Dyson Vacuum,

beauty things that I like. So I just feel like it's really my calling, and I had so much fun yesterday. Oh my God, I just- I actually turned on QVC the other day, because I was just looking for something to have in the background, and I actually like QVC around the holidays,

because they've got great energy, and I like to shop. And the way that they could make you buy anything, like they were zooming in on this like bar of chocolate. That was just like- Jackie, that's so crazy. I also turned on QVC like a week ago. It didn't even look like if I passed that chocolate

at the store, I wouldn't look twice at it actually. Like it had like live nuts in it. It was not for me. Live nuts? The way they were talking about this chocolate, I have to try it. What's a live nut as opposed to a dead one? Like a whole nut. Like a whole nut sitting on top.

Multiple of different kinds of nuts. I'm not nutty. She is, what are you, nuts? No, actually. I'm not nutty. I agree, when we went to Polo Bar for Thanksgiving, we got like almost every single dessert and the one that we didn't get was the brownie,

which is crazy, because that's like my go-to, like a warm brownie. It was like a walnut brownie. Like seriously, why? Seriously, why? And I'm not saying go-to, like a warm brownie. It was like a walnut brownie. Like seriously, why? Seriously, why? And I'm not saying like yucky, I would never eat that. It's like not preferred. I prefer without it.

Yucky, I would never eat that. You would. I think that like, it's the same for most fruits, except for like, there are certain exceptions. Like fruit is not dessert. It's just like a substitute. So making like a carrot cake, no, that's not dessert. It's just like a substitute. So making like a carrot cake, no, that's not dessert. That's how I feel about nuts.

Get out of here. What are you, nuts? I do think carrot cake is the exception, but I'm not gonna argue that, because like we'll just, we'll be here for days. We'll never see eye to eye. We will be here for days. They were also selling this vacuum cleaner

and I wasn't titillated, but then they were showing how you could clean your kid's car seat with it. Oh. I thought that was something to read. That's what they got you. Yeah, yeah, practical application of policy. Practical application of policy. That pass is muster.

If it ain't passing muster, honestly, it ain't for me. And you know what, maybe passing muster came out of the woodwork today because I didn't get like a lot of sleep last night, but I got better sleep than the night before. Yesterday, I was not coming up with passing muster. Maybe you just had a dream. I was barely passing muster myself.

Oh, don't say that. You were phenomenal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it was just, you know, the brain wasn't hundo-pee. Yeah. Well, we have not even really talked about what an exciting week we have at the, maybe like one or two days I'm headed down to Florida,

obviously to spend time with my family, which I cannot wait for, but mostly because Jackie and I are doing our final live podcast of the year, and let's be honest, probably our final live podcast for quite some time, at the Harry Rock Seminole in Hollywood, Florida. It is our biggest show yet.

It is our first show in Florida. Jackie's, you know, it's kind of like a homecoming type of show, very Beyonce homecoming. It's Sunday night at seven o'clock at the Hard Rock Seminole in Hollywood, Florida. We are so excited. It's not too late to get tickets. There are a couple of seats left.

It's our biggest show. I cannot wait. I did finally get a dress. Like it was really hard, but I found one. And I don't, if you don't like it, like that's fair. I'm not saying it's the most beautiful dress, but it fits and I don't want to hear a fucking word about it, okay? No, if you like, if you out there have anything to say

about like Claudia's pregnant woman dress, like trying to get a Jisno holiday, like you're a mean person. You try trying on dresses for a Jisno holiday, Shravakha Ghanza when you literally hate your body. Like try it, try it. Yeah, I actually just ordered some dresses last night. I'm a little bit behind, but we could always hit them all.

Turd-y. We could. And I also was thinking that green dress, that Simchi that I led to you, that is now living in your closet, that might fit me now. Okay. So that's a, my backup dress.

It's a great dress. We have a great show. The stories are what? Like scale of one to 10. Like not, you know, gangbusters. So I don't wanna, the stories are what we make them. I'll just leave it at that. And let's make them rock.

Let's make them rock. We also have. Dear Toasters, a weekly advice segment that was moved to Tuesdays. We almost moved it again this week to Wednesday cause Jackie is heading to the airport, but we decided to just record extra early to get to the toasters.

And the submissions are very good this week. I'm very excited, very diverse. However, if we make too much of the stories, we will not have time for dear toasters. No, let's be mindful. If we do not stop singing our pargy song, then we won't be able to give you advice. But I'll never stop singing my pargy song.

They want to make me stop singing pargy songs. But I was born to sing this pargy song. And you can grab a spoon and eat my ass. I love it. I love it. I love it. Now, I'll never stop singing my Pargy song. No, I will never stop singing my Pargy song, okay? Claudia, I think you need to get in the studio. Well, I'm actually in the studio, and so are you.

You know what I was thinking about, Jackie? We need to get into the recording studio and write a song called the Pargy song. Well, remember when we were coming up with what Selena Gomez's song was gonna be? We actually ended up writing an amazing song. I actually thought of the other day, the song that she ended up releasing, I'll be single soon.

I don't know if there is a song that has made less of a cultural impact in my lifetime than that song. The way it came and went, I don't even think it hit the billboard. Like it was like a passion project of hers. She liked the song. She didn't give a fuck. She made this turnt music video and it's literally flopped. Such a flop. What I thought you were gonna say is you wrote, when we heard that she was coming out with a song,

it was like, I am, she was doing Easter eggs. We wrote a song. Yeah, how did it go? Remind me. I am me. Oh, I don't know. No Jackie, I am real. That's Simon Van Caven.

I know, I'm not being alone No Jackie, I am real. That's Simon van Kappen. I know. I'm not being alone too much to dance with your heart. We need to get back in the studio. We need to get back in the studio and then I'll stop singing my pargy song when I decide the pargyness is long gone. Oh, I love, I love. Okay, well, in that spirit,

we should stop singing our pargy song and get to the business at hand. Without further ado, about the pargy song. Here are the, here are the fast five stories that you need to know. Wait, before we do the fast five, like you're actually experiencing something that sometimes happens to me, but like not a lot,

where it's like, I get to do the toast from the comfort of my own studio. And yes, I have my problems, like my, you know, bad lighting or whatever, but no one's judging me. Right. Like I don't know. You are singing your pargy song in front of how many camera men are. And I know they hear me just one, just one. And do you think that he thinks you're a freak? I can't see him. And do you think that he thinks that like, you're like a girl who like started a podcast like for fun and three people listen, like, you think that he thinks that like, you're like a girl who like started a podcast, like for fun and three people listen. Like, do you think he knows that like,

this is kind of like the Joe Rogan of the Jewish community? Yeah, he definitely knows it's the Joe Rogan. No, he's actually familiar with the toast because he works a lot with Lexus Waters. Oh, okay, okay. So, oh cool, okay. Lexus Waters. So you're saying Lexus Waters ate these eggs?

That is what he's saying. Yeah, okay, cool. Sorry. So the party song is brought to you by State Farm, which is so appropriate because they also have their own Parji song and this time we're allowed to sing it. So today's episode of The Toast is supported by State Farm.

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and you'll find all my Amazon Lives and just make sure to follow so you never miss a stream. Thank you, never miss a turt. I would never dream of missing a turt. Our first story, Let's go back. Back to the beginning. Oh, you know what I forgot to tell you? Actually, well, I did tell you,

but we never got to chat about it. I didn't get to talk about it on the toast. When I was at Polo Bar for, actually, I didn't tell you this. When I was at Polo Bar for Thanksgiving, you walk downstairs into the restaurant as I'm walking downstairs, who's walking up? Justin Anderson and Kristin Cavallari.

Now, Kristin Cavallari walks right by me. I feel like she doesn't like me because of that one thing I said about her, which I stand by. But Justin Anderson, I love it. He's a swirly. I've never met him, but apparently he loves The Good Guys podcast too.

He was so excited, so funny, so nice. He was shocked to see us. I have never met him before. We're internet friends, even better IRL. Oh my God, we're internet friends and I really like him and you know what, I'm jealous. Yeah, no, like meet your faves because if your fave is Justin Anderson,

like he's so handsome, he was so cute and so funny. And I just wanna say, I feel like Justin and Kristen like are aligned and her enemy is his enemies and vice versa and who he likes, she likes too. So I actually think she has no issue with you. Okay, maybe like also she doesn't know who I am and like that and ugly and irrelevant, which is most likely the case.

I don't think he would be liking someone that Kristen had an issue with, like their ride or die. Okay, okay, cool, cool, cool. So that bodes well. But we're going back, back to the beginning because Laguna Beach High School Reunion, their 20 year high school reunion was this weekend. Lauren Conrad went, Steven Coletti went.

You have to remember it's like their year, Kristen's not their year. Right, but you also have to remember, and this was a reminder for me, that this was a real school. No, that is what is so crazy. Has there ever been a more high stakes high school reunion? Did anyone have a more public high school experience

than Laguna Beach? No. And who, like I need to know who was on the planning committee, like, and when they were getting like RSVPs, they were probably freaking about like, cause there were also just like regular folk who entered this high school and like nobody knew, but they knew Kristen, they maybe had classes with Lauren.

Like it's actually the craziest thing. Cause I feel like in this day and age, they would never have a reality show about high school kids who are actively in high school. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, it seems really young. Yeah, and it just, it seems crazy. Yeah, it is crazy.

What's crazier is that they all went, especially Lauren, but I guess she is just a down-home girly. I think she lives in Laguna now with her family, so it's like, why wouldn't she go to her high school reunion? But they all went, Lauren, Steven, Trey, Dieter, Morgan, Christina. I mean, I recently watched Laguna Beach and I feel like we have this conversation.

So I won't, it doesn't, I don't want to be repetitive, but it is really crazy how like Lauren Conrad was America's sweetheart. Like seriously, we were obsessed with her and everyone who came for her, Kristen, Spencer, Heidi, we hated. She was a queen of America. And I recently went back and rewatch,

and let me tell you, she's the worst character. She's so phobiss enough. She just likes Steven, and when it doesn't go her way, she's such a miserable, sour puss fucking face. And all she does is brag about her parents' new house and invite people over to the new house. She rides the coattails of her parents' house. Like her parents' house is a character on the show. Yeah, yeah.

It's being built for a season. She keeps like inviting people over, like see the construction. It's like, it's giving loser. Yeah, yeah. In hindsight. Big loser energy she is. However, it all worked out, didn't it?

Yes, yes it did, it did. And they had just like a regular, degular, well, Laguna Beach style 20-year high school reunion. They shared pictures. Everyone was getting together. It's like they literally wore name tags. Like, that's so crazy. It's also so crazy that they literally had like three

and a half years of regular high school. And then like the last couple of months where they were filming that reality show and that was their senior year is what like we all know. they had a full high school experience. Yeah, yeah I would love to they should have had MTV there for the reunion to see where's everyone now how's everyone doing how did the show change your life? That's actually a really good point and I feel like it was definitely something that came across the desk of MTV like why wouldn't they I'm like it was definitely something that came across the desk of MTV. Like why wouldn't they?

I'm sure nobody was willing to participate and that's why, but that would have been a great special. Yeah. How often does our high school have reunions? Cause I would be coming up on my 15th in the spring. They do every five. Every five. Okay. My 10th was a Zoom that I didn't join.

That sucks. My five I went to. Me too. Everybody goes to the five because it's the first one. We just had a college. You're still friends with everyone. Like it's a night out. And then my 10, I was so excited.

And then I got booked. Like I had a work thing in Canada. And I actually asked them to move it because one of my friends was on the committee and they were like, no. So I missed it and I was like really upset. So I will be going to 15 whenever that is, like in three, four years.

I'll go to 15 if they host something. Although I did hear about the 10 was that like significantly less people came and that makes me really sad. Like everyone should go even though I literally didn't, but everyone should. I think, I don't think 15 will be a big one. I think 20 is the big one.

Yeah, and if I remember correctly from my fifth, it was like really not enough time had passed. Like I remember we were sitting in like a classroom and it just like literally felt like a weekend. Like it wasn't, it wasn't. No, it was like the Wednesday night before Thanksgiving. Like, hey all. Yeah. It wasn't weird enough.

Yeah. You know? No, like now it's like, I wouldn't recognize people. And that's the vibe I want. Well, that's, it's a phase of life that I'm in like somebody over the weekend I was talking to my sister-in-law's fiance and he was like by the way, do you know blank? They had just met someone who I went to high school with it in my grade It took me 45 seconds to place this person like the name just like I couldn't and of course lovely girl I remember her it

People and able like say someone who we went to high school with and I'm like, I remember her. It, people, and Abel like say someone who we went to high school with, and I'm like, I seriously have never met that person in my life. It's also because we don't have Facebook. It doesn't matter. That is true. They're not like coming across our newsfeed. Yeah.

Yeah, that's why we- Losing a Facebook was tough. That's why we need our reunion, because people need to be able to keep up with us. They have no idea what we're up to. We're so private. You know? We're so private. We're so private, we're not on Facebook. I love that they shared this. I love that they all went

and they seem to be on good terms. But that also means that Kristin's is next year. Oh yeah. But her grade wasn't like interesting to me. That girl Jessica was such a messica. Like, it was just Kristin. Jessica. It was just Kristin.

Yeah. And that was Kristin's problem too. That's why she couldn't stop hanging out with the older kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She'll go, of course. She was a queen then, queen now. She's really been making waves on her podcast. Have you been seeing?

I have. She has decided to give podcasting, like her full attention. And she's kind of a born podcaster. She lives in a very interesting life, but she's also like smart and like well-spoken. So she's kind of built for this life and she has a great cohost in Justin.

So it's like perfect to bounce ideas off of. I love that for her. And it's a J-Media production, rising tides. Love it. Are you ready for our next story? Mm-hmm. So Apple Martin debuted this weekend at the Paris debutante ball.

Now we talked about this ball last year, right? Yes, I was telling you, TikTok has opened my eyes. Last year was the first year I knew about this. It's this really old school, first of all, debutante ball. I know they do that in the South, but like it's really this outdated thing. But the one in Paris, it's like one of the remaining balls and it's for like an elite, elite international group

of gals. So they come from all over the world. It is the richest, the most royal people from, you know, famous families like Apple Martin, actual royals, whose parents are prince, some of them are princes, princesses, a lot of them like billionaires in Asia. It's such an interesting group. And if you looked at them, you might not recognize the women

besides for like Apple Martin, but on TikTok, they break down whoever it is, who their parents are, what they're wearing, like their jewels. It's literally Marjorie Post. Like it's insane. Yeah, it's called Le Ball des Debutants and Apple Martin went in- I feel like they could do better than that.

It's when in a custom Valentino gown. She looked amazing. She's very beautiful. Her mom was there, her dad was there, her grandma was there. It was really a family affair. It was like her bat mitzvah. It was like her bat mitzvah.

There's so much footage coming out of it too. And I feel like they've very slowly been opening Apple Martin up to the public eye. I feel like she lived a very normal private life and now she's a certain age. I think when she turned 18, she did this little vogue spread. They've done it very slowly and very tastefully.

I think it's clear that she wants to do modeling or something. And so this was like kind of her coming out, her debutante and obsessed. She's very beautiful. I loved seeing the mom and dad and Blythe. A lot of people also didn't know that Blythe Danner is Gwyneth Paltrow's mom.

So when the pictures of Apple, her parents and her grandmother were, people were like, why is Blythe Tanner there? A lot of people didn't know that. That's her Nepo baby alliance. Obsessed, just obsessed. And it's nice to see them co-parenting, you know, consciously uncoupling.

They are very, they're being very conscious here. And that's always nice to see. Lily Collins also debuted at this ball. Did you know that in 2007? Oh, I didn't. And also, so did Scout Willis and Tallulah Willis, which kind of like ruins it a little bit. I feel like it would be a little bit more

like top tier than that. But I wanna see Lily Collins at the debut top ball. She looks adorable. And by the way, the picture looks like it could have been taken yesterday. She looks the same. She's timeless. You're timeless. Oh, she's so cute.

Yeah. Oh, she's adorable. Oh, also Lori Harvey debuted there and Ava Philippi. Oh, I could see both of them. Wait, I want to see Lori Harvey debutante. As did Billie Lourd and Francesca Eastwood. Those, that makes sense. Like the people who do come from Hollywood,

it's not a lot, but it's people from big families. That's why the Willis's, it's really a lot, not about who you are, but who your parents are. So Wally, yes, rumor Willis's. Bruce Willis is Bruce Willis. And their mom's Demi Moore, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, Lori Harvey, oh gorgeous.

Oh and Margaret Quali too. Classic, Lori Harvey looks sick. This is like my favorite rabbit hole to go down and shout out to the girlies on TikTok who are like always doing those recap videos, telling you who everyone is, what they're wearing. And she's actually the first debutante to wear Valentino which I guess was like a big deal.

And I think custom, custom. And of course the mother. Well, I don't know why I keep calling her the mother. My best friend, Gretta Paltrow. She was also wearing Valentino. So it was a really pargy affair. I bet it was like- The mother, the mother. I wonder what it was a really pargy affair. I bet it was like- The mother, the mother.

I wonder what it was really like on the inside. Like was, do you think it's a really fun event? Yeah, yeah, but I'm sure it's also like, you have to remember that even though these people are like glitz and glamor, like they're still teenagers and they have their insecurities and drama and all of that. So I think it's like a very high stakes high school. Yeah.

Event. I love it. Yeah, really, really cute. That's like now a fun thing we can look forward to every year. Thanks TikTok for pointing this out. It's so true. And that dress was really parje, like that blue. Yeah, love.

And she wasn't even wearing a lot of makeup. I mean, I guess that's what happens when you're like 17. But she's very beautiful. Mm-hmm, very. Are you ready for our next story? Mm-hmm. Some almost casting news that's pretty crazy. I'm obsessed.

Judy Greer turned down an audition for Modern Family's Claire Dunphy because she didn't wanna be America's mom. She said the role felt so limiting. So. Okay, by the way, but I could see the role was written for Judy Greer. The role was written for her.

They didn't get Judy Greer, so they got foodie freer. Yeah, literally. She is so wrong for this. Does she stand by the decision? So this is she it's explaining. She revealed in a recent episode of the Dinners on Me podcast that she passed on an audition for the role of Claire Dumphy. She would have gotten it.

Told host who's Jesse Tyler Ferguson, who portrayed Mitchell, your fave. Mitchell is not my fave, by the way. I know, it was a joke. So annoying, okay. It was a joke. Who's your favorite on Modern Family? Manny.

That's a really good answer. Who's yours? I don't know. It depends. Gloria's up there. None of the Dumfies. They're all the worst. I like Gloria's husband too. Yeah, of course.

It was either Gloria, Jay or Cam. Jay! Or Cam, Mitchell's husband. Yeah, but like he gets bogged down with Mitchell's storylines. Cause you can't watch Cam without watching Mitchell, so I don't want to watch. No, by the way, you can't watch Cam without watching Mitchell and watching Lily, who as she gets older talks more like is the worst character.

So yeah, I guess like it's like the best family is Gloria, Manny and Jane. That's why they're the best characters. 100%. Yeah. So Jordi Greer said that at that point in her career, she was starting to play characters with children. In a movie, people kind of see it and then they forget, she said.

In a TV show, it's just like, you're a mom, that's it. She added that she didn't even want kids in real life at the time and that it was not even on the table for her. She said, I was like, I think I'm not going to audition for it. I was really torn about it, but I ended up obviously not. Who knows if I would have gotten it anyway. I know. You would have.

I was just like, I don't know if I want to be America's mom yet. Okay, well good, because you didn't become it and you missed out on a million dollars an episode for like what they did over 100 episodes. Good job. Good job Judy Greer. No, and like that's one of the last shows. And I think Claire is the worst. That's one of the last shows that benefits from like rerun checks. Yeah, that and Big Bang Theory. It's like old school syndicate money.

Yeah, like set for life, but okay, you didn't want to be America's mom and be seen in this way. Okay, so go back to work. Go back to work now. And also she did guest star on the show in the first season, like as someone's girlfriend. Oh, that's interesting that she, in the first season.

Yeah, Phil Dunphy's ex-girlfriend. I mean, I love almost casting news and I feel like what's so great about it is that the person, you know, like it's like Harrison Ford could have been Jack in Titanic, whatever. And he ended up being Harrison Ford, so it's not a big deal but he always, they always express regret. Like they're like, damn, I should have taken that one

or I was wrong about that one. That's what's so funny about it. But like her kind of standing by that decision, like it was a bad call and just like, let's own it, Judy, own it. Yeah, maybe like she regretted it later in the podcast episode, but this variety write up, I'm not sensing the regret.

Yeah, I don't sense the mistake. But I also think like when you miss out on something like that, like it's kind of what you have to tell yourself to sleep at night. It's so true. Cause you miss out on something like that, like it's kind of what you have to tell yourself to sleep at night. It's so true. Cause you can't live a life of regret, you can't. Right, because Judy Greer is famous,

but she's not, you know, set for life famous. Right. That's why the story is like Harrison Ford almost, but he's still Harrison Ford, so it doesn't matter, you know? Judy Greer is still a working actor. Yeah. I love her.

Yeah, me as well. She wouldn't have had to work as much. As hard. She wouldn't have to be in that weird Christmas pageant movie that I almost bought a ticket to but decided against. What's that? It's in theaters?

Yeah, there was like, before Wicked came out, I wanted to go to the movies and there was like nothing to see. So I almost bought tickets to like this, it's called like a Christmas pageant or something. She plays like a mom. And I didn't buy it because it didn't look red. I understand.

Are you ready for our next story? Our fourth story, some podcasting news. Oh, always. Guess who's launching a podcast? I mean, who is it? I actually like, it's not the usual because when I tell you this person, you're gonna be like, oh, don't they have a podcast slash

why would they even want a podcast? And it's Oprah. Oprah's new weekly podcast will include interviews with Oprah's book club authors. So Oprah is expanding her presence in the podcast sphere. Oprah's book club invites fans to listen to the TV personality and conversation with select book club authors in the Oprah podcast.

The weekly podcast will feature Oprah interviewing one book club authors in the Oprah podcast. The weekly podcast will feature Oprah interviewing one book club author each month with other episodes, including discussions with leaders, global newsmakers, bestselling authors, visionaries, and cultural change makers. She also hosts Oprah's Super Soul podcast, which is why she's, it's not unfamiliar to hear Oprah's name in podcasting, but also she's had a million TV shows.

She's just in media, so it's not like we hear Oprah's name in podcasting, but also like she's had like a million TV shows. She's just in media. So it's not like we're finally hearing from Oprah. Yeah, but I do feel like, aside from the redheads, like the celebrity book club space, which is becoming really big and really popular, hasn't taken to the podcasting space yet. Like I'm surprised Reese doesn't do that. And I actually just-

Well, let's talk about what this means for the redheads, because she's kind of like coming for us. Coming for your neck. Yeah. She obviously saw the success. I think so. I think she saw that there's a want for it. The thing is, it seems like we're doing

kind of different stuff here. So I'll let her do her thing. We don't need to be raucous. And let me tell you why I like this. I just read a book that was in Oprah's book club choice but it was like a memoir of the person's life. So they talk in the book about when they met Oprah, not when their book made the list,

but they met Oprah in their professional life. And they met, basically this woman became a ghostwriter, not a ghostwriter, but like an editor. And the person she was helping write a book got chosen by Oprah and him and Oprah did like a little bit of a press tour and that's where she met Oprah. And Oprah's like really involved in the books that she chooses and like she gets to know,

she took them out to lunch. She really, it's not like, I feel like, you know, some celebrity book clubs, they just like choose a book and it's not like, she really meets them. She puts, not you, of course not. She meets with them. She like really champions them. She definitely reads the book.

So I think that like, this is actually a low lift for her because she's already meeting these people and getting to know them. And so like doing an interview, why not? I actually think this is a great idea. Yeah, it's a no brainer and makes sense. Yeah. So also she's been doing her book club for 28 years

as part of the first, that was like the first segment on the Oprah Winfrey show. She's a pioneer. Yeah, so this is cool. She actually walked so the redheads could run. Rising Tides Raise all shides. Do you think her and Reese hate each other? I think that they can convince themselves

that they're different. And because they are different in what they do. They are, but they're similar too. Yeah. I guess Oprah hasn't gotten to the place yet where she's trying to develop any of these projects into movies or TV shows. And that really would be the competitive part.

Cause you can have multiple book clubs, but like, I think a lot of people are copying what Reese's done or at least trying to. Who do you think picks better books? I don't think it's about better. I think books that appeal more to me are Reese's book choices and I think that Oprah's are really serious. I think Oprah's book club reaches a little bit

of an older crowd, like a bit more mature, more serious topics. And Reese's still like are swirly a little bit. Yeah. I don't think any of Oprah's choices are swirly. Like the one that in the book that I was reading about, the book that she chose was about prison reform. And then the other one was about

the equal justice initiative, that guy Brian. So like, it's really heavy stuff. Yeah. I want to see like a list of her books. I think that might've been the first Oprah's book I read. And also I feel like it's a lot of non-fiction. Yes. Yeah, which I like. Yeah, so I just, I think I gravitate more towards race,

but that doesn't mean it's better. Speaking of, I'm reading our book for the Redheads, we're reading Shred Sisters, it's our last book of the year, Dana chose it. It's really good so far, I'm really excited. I'm reading Shred Sisters. It's our last book of the year. Dana chose it. It's really good so far. I'm really excited. I'm reading a Redheads pick as well. God of the Woods.

What do you think? It's long, but it's good. Yeah, I feel like you're not reading it hastily. I'm not, but that has nothing to do with the book and more to do with the space that I'm in. The lifestyle choice. The lifestyle, okay, calm down. I'm not smoking cigarettes.

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Thank you, Code Tert. And welcome. Our fifth and final story, little follow-up news to yesterday's lead story, Vanderpump Rules. Andy Cohen is addressing the bombshell casting change and said it's the absolute right thing to do. So Andy addressed... I'm just never gonna say the opposite,

but let's see what he has to say. Right. He addressed the network's decision to replace the series' longtime stars with a new group of close-knit servers on Monday's episode of his SiriusXM show, Andy Cohen Live. He said, the series, long time stars with a new group of close knit servers on Monday's episode of a serious XM show, Andy Cohen Live. He said, Bravo announced or word got out that they're revamping the show.

And I have to say, this is first of all the absolute right thing to do. He said he was so impressed that producers were able to keep the show going over the last couple years despite the main stars no longer working at Sir. I think what was more impressive was that they were still able to like connect it to Sir, not that they could do a show.

Yeah, what was impressive was actually like the two or three years before Scandival, the fact that we still watched that was impressive because that was seriously some of the worst television. Like the Charlie Danica, Brett Maxe ears were like Jackson, the end of Jackson's career on Vanderpump Rules. Like it was just, it was horrible. Yeah.

Like I want to be compensated for watching that shit. I agree. He said the entire point of the show, Morton changed as it went on. And it wound up that James Kennedy was the only one with any kind of footprint at Sir, because he was DJing there occasionally. Now he's gone on and he's got a residency in Vegas

and he's having great success. And they're all having- And we're supposed to believe that he has a residency in Vegas, but he's going to fly to LA. I actually do believe- Go DJ at a restaurant that doesn't even have a DJ booth. I actually do believe that he is a residency in Vegas, but he's gonna fly to LA. I actually do believe- DJ at a restaurant that doesn't even have a DJ booth. I actually do believe that he like does see you next Tuesdays or whatever because like so many people come, it's great for him, it's like where he got his start.

It's actually a good thing for everyone. But explain to me, and I would love to talk to perhaps Diana or Guillermo, the managers of Sir, how they never thought to invest in a DJ booth. Like the way they would throw James next to the bar in like this on a pedestal, like literally with a laptop, no DJ booth, like, and see you next Tuesday became like a huge event for them. It was just so low brow.

It just, to see his Instagram, like he's literally playing huge festivals, Vegas clubs. He's standing on a cardboard box at Sir. Like it just, it makes no sense. No, I know. You know where he was in performing? The science museum. And that one hurt. Oh yeah, yeah.

That one hurt. Then he also talked about how cast went and filmed together, he said, and then you have the others who don't want to be in the same room, much less on the same show with each other, and that makes sense too. So what you were left with was really just a few pieces of what the original Vanderpump Rules was.

So I think this is a very smart programming move. He likened the shakeup to the Roni reboot. He said, in Roni's case, we had 13 seasons of a show that was so beloved and so great. And it went on and on. And sometimes for a show, it's the end of the road or it's time to curve or swerve or pivot. And that's where we were with Roni.

And that's what's happening with Vanderpump Rules. No, they need to stop bringing up Roni because I think that- Yeah, it's not a good example. It's not. And what they did with Vanderpump rules. No, they need to stop bringing up Roni because I think that- Yeah, it's not a good example. It's not. And what they did with Roni was like, they had experienced this with Atlanta, with Jersey, with Beverly Hills, with OC,

and they weren't sure what to do with these franchises that had OG castmates, but that were kind of like at a standstill. So they took a risk and they did it on New York, and it did not work. And have you seen them reboot any other of those franchises that I just mentioned? No, because it didn't work.

No, when actually like OC is coming back from the ashes. And I think a lot of the answers for the future lie in the past. In the past, bringing back thirsty women. Bringing back Tamra and Alexis. And that's why now my new philosophy is that sometimes someone needs a break and I don't wanna see them anymore

and I'm like, I can't have this person on the show. But that doesn't mean that I feel that way forever. Like there's a time and place for them to come back and I think that's what they need to do more of instead of wiping the slate clean tabula rasa. It's actually a brilliant point. And there are so many women when you come to think of the New York franchise.

I do think that like getting rid of Dorinda. Cindy Barshop. Okay, actually no. But getting rid of Dorinda. Cindy Barshop. Okay, actually no. But getting rid of Dorinda was important. I feel like she was kind of, and people love her and I love her too, but like she was the real core of the issue in the sense that like the women would get blackout drunk, say the most horrible things

to each other and in the morning not remember and not even really apologize. So like it was, she really was like the worst at that. So I agree with cutting her out, but there are so many women. And then maybe in three years, bring her back. And then also I think people get like a little too big for their britches where like this is,

they think this is my show and losing the job for a year or two will teach you that this is a group project. It's so true. They need to be humbled. Teresa, yeah. But when you think about the New York women that they could have brought back, like very Alexis Bellino vibes, because Alexis is really doing a very good job

at shaking shit up on OC. Like, I mean, I don't, she would never, especially she's moved now, but there was a time where they should have brought Jill Zarin back. And it was like so obvious she would have done it. And she was, if you ever watch those OG seasons, I rewatch them during COVID. She is a star.

She is the reason that the Real Houses of New York is a successful show. She was hysterical, drama, even if you didn't agree with her verse Bethany, that was the first big, big drama on Real Houses of New York. There's so many New York women, especially a lot of them are a little thirsty,

which is good, because Alexis, believe me, is thirsty. You need that. You want the job. There are so many women. So I actually think you're 100% right. The OC formula, which I good. Cause Alexis believed in us thirsty. You need that. You want the job. There are so many women. So I actually think you're a hundred percent right. The OC formula, which I never thought I would say, they got some good new women like the Emily and Gina.

Like that was good. Everyone else who came and went Peggy Sulhanian, like no. But they got Emily and Gina and then the bringing back of Alexis, they need to bring back Gretchen. Like they need to bring back Gretchen. They brought back Heather. Yeah. It's, it's a really good point. I'm trying to think who else in New York

they could have brought back. There have been so- Kristen Takeman? No. Carol, Aviva, Heather. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Heather. Well, they did really bring Heather back

and they did her dirty and she left. Didn't go so well. Aviva. What about some Aviva? I saw Aviva dress her on the street the other day. Did I tell you that? I feel like you could tell me that on any day, I saw Aviva dress her on the street the other day. Did I tell you that? I feel like you could tell me that on any day, you know? She's always on the street.

She's always on the street. She's like a street walker. Aviva. Aviva, Jackie, Carol, and actually Andy just said, I forget it was either on his radio show. But Carol hates him. They had a come to Jesus moment. They had a big friendship mending conversation.

Wow. So yeah, I mean, those were the days, Bethany and Carol, like that was- Tinsley, even though she is so moved on. I actually didn't think Tinsley was a great housewife while she was on. She was just a part of good seasons. So people think of her as like, oh, that was great.

She literally left in the middle. She was always whining like a 16 year old. She was actually horrible. No, she wasn like a 16 year old. Like she was actually horrible. No, she wasn't a great housewife, but she was- No, she was like living in that apartment and she was just like, it was just chaos. It was chaos and you want to root for her. Yeah, but I think if they could do,

cause they're definitely doing something with New Jersey. They don't, Margaret and all the women have said, we have not heard from production. None of us have contracts. None of us have been fired, but we don't know they don't, Margaret and all the women have said, we have not heard from production. None of us have contracts. None of us have been fired, but we don't know what we're doing. I think if they, they need to put some, some OGs on ice. And you know, say what you want.

Cause I feel like it's kind of what we were saying with Lisa Rinna, like people like Margaret are necessary for this show. Yeah. She is. And she has kept this show, which for a couple of years has been on a little bit on Steve on a, what do you say a little bit on steed,

on a, what do you say when you're on? Shaky ground. Fumes, fumes. She has breathed new life into it. And I know some people don't like her, she ruffles people's feathers, but look where that got us with Lisa Rinna. Like, bitch come back.

Yeah, yeah. So we just need a breather. And Beverly Hills is on tonight, so we'll both watch and recap tomorrow. Yes, I'm all caught up already, so we will do that. And we'll also do, we're crushing time, by the way, like just absolutely crushing. Oh yeah, not a worry in the world.

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I am ready. Hello to my favorite ladies. I'm in dire need of your help. I have been dating my boyfriend for a little over three years and he's been nothing but amazing. We hardly fight, we get along, and we just really trust each other.

The other day we were drinking and I asked him, so is there anything that I don't know about you? Like have you done anything crazy that is, I guess, concerning but interesting at the same time? He started laughing and he took a deep breath and he told me that he slept with his stepsister who was absolutely gorgeous. I love her so much.

I consider her one of my good friends. I'm just kind of shocked and thrown off about this and I don't know how I feel about it. How would you take this information? And yes, they slept together after their parents were married. Okay, so I just, I, yeah, it, I'm only concerned because you're,

like, it seems like your takeaway here, like the thing you're most upset about is that like, you know this girl, you trust this girl, and that they did this thing behind your back almost, but it wasn't behind your back. Like that they've had this secret that they didn't tell you about. Not the fact that he slept with his stepsister. And stepsisters, you don't share a parent.

This is so like murky because- It's gross. But Claudia, it's Sharon Josh and we all loved Clueless. Okay. Sharon Josh's, when Sharon Josh got together, their parents weren't married at the time. They had been married previously. Yeah, but that's just like due to the age and the timeline of everything, like that wouldn't-

And by the way, we love, but we also talk about how fucking weird it is. I just feel like if you're gonna sleep with your step-sibling, you have to marry them. That's the only way- No, I'm sorry. You don't just like hook up with- Jackie, I'm sorry, the rule is that you can't sleep

with your step-sibling. No, is that you can't sleep with your step sibling. No, but like say two people's parents are getting together and then like the kids kind of like get romantic and wouldn't it be cute if everyone got married? It's only cute if everyone gets married. So I don't know what's- Like the thing is he didn't do anything wrong. I don't have a step sibling.

I don't know. Like legally it's fine. You know, more like genetically it's fine. This is just really fucking crazy. And like not something that most people have to deal with because it's a family. Most people can't sleep with a family member. No, of course.

And by the way, there are different levels of step siblings. I'll tell you your parent, your mom remarries someone while you're in third grade and you live in the same house as a brother. Like, of course. If you're all grownups and you've never lived in the same house as a brother. Like, of course. If you're all grownups and you've never lived in the same house together, like I understand why it's less weird,

but I really will not just sort of like sweep over how weird this is. Like. Oh my God, it's so weird, but like. Of all the people you could sleep with. Here's the ultimate question. Is this a deal breaker? Literally she's describing a perfect relationship.

I'm sorry, this would give me the ick. It's so, it's so uncomfortable. But it doesn't sound like she's even that upset about like the incest-y vibes. She's more upset that like there was this secret that she didn't know. She feels like a betrayal. That's the vibe I'm getting.

It's both upsetting because say he slept with his sister at one point, but the parents were no longer together, so he never saw her anymore. Like, okay, that'd just be like a betrayal. That's the vibe I'm getting. It's both upsetting because say he slept with his step-sister at one point, but the parents were no longer together. So he never saw her anymore. Like, okay, that'd just be like a weird, yeah, exactly, a weird, interesting kind of crazy fact. No, but they are still together. But they are still together.

So it's both. It's the fact that he slept with his step-sister, but also the fact that they're still together. And so she's always around. Having a really hard time not pressing my break up with your boyfriend button, because there's good stuff here here as Steve Brady would say. Now let me ask you something.

Say that this is the unfortunate truth and things happen and you know, things happen, okay? Should he have ever told her? No. Is this something he should have taken to his grave? Yes. And don't ask questions you don't want answers to. Yeah, let's go back to the whole-

What was the question she asked? Yeah, it was crazy. It was crazy. Tell me something really disturbing about you so I have to think about you for the rest of my days. That's what she asked. Is there anything that I don't know about you? Like have you done anything crazy that is, I guess,

concerning and interesting at the same time? You were asking literally for him to say this. Like you almost knew that he fucked his sister and you wanted to know. I love how we're blaming her, but like, girl, keep your head in the sand. Jackie, I'm only blaming her because I seriously don't know how to guide her.

Like, this is so crazy. I don't have step siblings. I actually don't even know people who have step siblings really. So like, I don't know much about this. We have a half brother and that's different because we share a parent. Like that's, yeah, no.

Don't even bring us into this. I know, it's disgusting. I don't know how to help you. I seriously, this is just, okay, maybe if I don't press my break up with your boyfriend button, I'm pressing my, I'm sorry, I can't help you button. I'm sorry. I'm gonna press my like,

giving grace and holding space button. Wow, that's really mature of you. She's describing a perfect relationship. I could see watching a movie about this and watching the parents get together and then maybe the young son and the young daughter a lot of late nights and they hook up. Ooh, awkward, but they don't mind.

I could see liking it in a movie, so I'm gonna have to hold space, but I'm sorry to you. I'm just having a hard time, honestly, not judging everyone involved here. Like it's, I need to recuse myself from this toaster. I am not thinking clearly. That is so unfortunate. And this is just a warning to everyone.

Don't ask your partner to share a concerning but interesting facts about them. Yeah, it was such a specific question. Like, you knew he had relations with his sister. Yeah, and I guess if you never picked up that vibe before, that's good. Yeah, well, you know this now. And God speed to you and your whole family, honestly. Okay, this one's really crazy.

Hey, Swirlies, this past Thanksgiving, my husband and I announced our pregnancy. When we broke the news to my mother-in-law. Like two days ago? Yes. Okay. When we broke the news to my mother-in-law, she had a photo shoot with my sonogram. In one, she held her stomach as if she was pregnant.

I wasn't in a single photo. She then announced on her social media before I could with the caption, so happy for my baby boy. I was devastated. My husband told me that I needed some self-reflection that if I had a baby, wait, my husband told me that I needed some self-reflection if I had a baby just to post on social media.

Oh, okay. I was outraged. I didn't understand that sentence. Yeah, it took me a second to, but her husband said something really fucking rude. My husband told me that I needed to self-reflect if I was just having a baby, quote, to post on social media.

Like that's all I care about essentially. Yeah. I was outraged and I told him if I was just having a baby, quote, to post on social media. Like, that's all I care about, essentially. Yeah. I was outraged and I told him, if he would treat me like that, he could stay with his mom and he's been there for three days. Girl, stand your ground. These two are nuts.

And honestly, as long as people are- So the picture that she posted was her and him in the sonogram. No, I think just her, the sonogram, and her holding her belly. And her holding her belly. Listen, everyone who sees that picture on her feed is just gonna, like, everyone can see. She's literally showing everyone, like, how crazy she is. Listen, everyone who sees that picture on her feet is just gonna like, everyone can see.

She's literally showing everyone like how crazy she is. No, I'm sorry. I think that like when it comes to mother-in-law, like antics, you do give a little bit of grace for like her being, you know, an elder and having respect, of course. And I think that this is one of the things like you don't bite your tongue on.

This is insane, by the way, like fucking crazy ass behavior. Like this is behavior of somebody who belongs in an institution. Having sonogram pictures with someone else's baby. I don't care if it's your grandson, like it's fucking crazy. But she's exposing herself and like, you've got to pick your battles and like, seriously, you cannot stress over everything when you're pregnant.

Like deescalate, like protect your peace. I know, but the fact that she spoke up to her husband and her husband took the mother's side and now is staying at the mom's. Well, that's an issue. You need to, you can't give in because the point is so large and needs to be made. Yes.

Yeah. Like your husband should 100% have had your back. Your husband's leaving for three days and you're pregnant. I don't want to look too much into it. Just... No, but don't give in. No, no, no. You're not wrong.

Like if you just need us to tell you you're not wrong, like that is so crazy, but you also need to protect your peace and lower your stress levels. That's all you can do in this situation. That's fine. So like maybe you should have, with just the photo shoot,

like understood this crazy bitch for what she is and just moved on. But the fact that you voiced a concern to your husband and he ended up literally leaving the house and staying with his mom, like such toxic behavior. And he needs to learn before you have kids, like I'm the number one bitch in this group, not your fucking mom.

So he could stay there for as long as he wants. Just know you might be lonely, but he's staying at his mother's house and his mom's fucking crazy. So you will last longer than him. Do not give in. Agreed. But remain calm.

Remain calm, of course, of course. Protect your peace. Yeah, your twists are just stressing me out. Yeah, tourney, protect your peace. It's not good. It's not good. It's not good. Oh man, some people are so fucking crazy.

By the way, you're 100% right. Yep. Okay, ready? This is also a really crazy one. Hello, Swirlies. My boyfriend texted me in the middle of the day recently to let me know that he'd made a huge sale at his job. He asked me to get dinner that night at our favorite place to celebrate.

We had a great dinner. I asked every detail about the sale, congratulated him, told him how proud I was, etc. As we were waiting for the check, I told him a story from my day at work. I work in a hospital and the story involved a sick patient. His demeanor immediately changed. He leaned back in his chair, crossed his arms, and became instantly cold. He asked me if I was going to finish my drink so we could leave. I asked him if I'd done something wrong and he said that I, quote, sucked the energy out of the room and he told me it was, quote,

poor etiquette to bring up a story like that at a celebratory dinner. He asked if I would have told the same story if we were celebrating my friends getting engaged. He literally won't let it go. He keeps using the phrase, poor etiquette, and I am so embarrassed. Did I do something wrong or is this a red flag?"

Oh, this didn't. Run fast for your mother. Yeah, she said boyfriend. Yeah. Okay, run. It's time to start fast for your- Yeah, she said boyfriend. Yeah. Okay, run. It's time to start fresh. This, you know what this is? Like, you know what I immediately thought of?

Who? This sounds like something like Zach Brian would do. It's on the surface, like, okay, whatever. But it's so manipulative. Yeah. And it's so evil. Like, you did literally nothing wrong. Okay, first of all, you made one sale.

You get promoted. Like what I see a child that the mood has to be up here for an entire dinner. Like we can't just like have a conversation and agreed Claudia, you made a sale. We're celebrating the sale, but you're not the president. Like calm down. The world doesn't stop.

Other people had days too. Yeah. And like a part of a celebratory dinner is like you still having dinner, what do people do at dinner? You talk about your days. Right. And how long can you seriously wax on about one sale?

Like, it's definitely not a whole meal. Two people got engaged, would you share this? That's different, that's a group of people. Like the two of you are having a conversation, you're in a relationship, you're sharing your day, that's different than dinner party conversation. Yes, perhaps a story about a sick patient is not dinner party conversation.

I just wanna say like your partner telling you that you suck the energy out of the room, like that's not a normal way to be spoken to that like. No, and to say that it's poor etiquette, if someone like went on and on about my poor etiquette, I'd have to stop them right there. Like, okay, I didn't marry Emily Post. Good day, sir.

No, I'm sorry. I'm pushing my break up with your boyfriend button. Like this is really crazy. And I feel like either he's like a really crazy boyfriend and you have other stories to tell us, or this is the beginning. Like he showed us really quickly, like that he's fucking crazy.

I would run for your absolute life. Like he does not sound like a good boyfriend, a good partner, I'm sorry. I know I say that all the time, so like it loses its meaning, but you absolutely have to go. Pushing my, this is a red flag button, evaluate the rest of the relationship.

Okay, that's good too. And you know, out you dear toaster, dear reader. Suck the energy out of her. That's so fucking mean. That's so crazy. While she's like placating to your dumb ass all night. You made a sale, like it's so fucking stupid. I can't.

When she said that, I thought he got promoted. I'm like, okay, that's a big deal. Like that we could talk about. You made one sale. Like how infrequently are you making sales? Isn't your job sales? What did she say that he does? Maybe he's like a realtor, maybe he sold like a-

She didn't say. But still, if you're a realtor, like selling a house is huge, but like it shouldn't be like cause for celebrate. It doesn't mean we can't talk about the rest of our day. No, like by the way, if you're a real estate agent who goes out to dinner every time they make a sale,

one, either you're broke because you go out to dinner like all the time or two, you're not a very good real estate agent. Like it shouldn't be, if you work in sales, it shouldn't be a huge monumental deal to make a sale. Yeah, yeah. So I hate breakups. I'm concerned, I'm concerned across the board

for the toasters out there. We knew Thanksgiving was gonna be a rough one, but honestly I have a pit. Yeah, me too. I'm just picturing the mother-in-law like having a sexy photo shoot in her backyard with a sonogram that isn't hers. Just think about what the people on Facebook think.

At worst, they think she's pregnant. She's having a geriatric pregnancy. Pregnant. And at best, they see what you see and what we all see. Yeah. Do they though? A lot of themselves are probably mother-in-laws themselves and this is crazy ass behavior that they would.

So just let it like, just protect your beast. Let the crazies crazy. Protect your beast. We made it. We totally crushed this time wise. You're gonna head to the airport in style. We have so much time. We could even sing our party song.

I just wanna sing it all day long. I love to go and sing that Parjee song. It makes me so happy I could smoke a bong. But I won't because I'm with child and that's against the law and I obey. I obey. Keep sweet and pray and obey. You guys thank you so much for listening

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I feel like maybe we did it. I always feel that way. Love ya! Bye!