The Toast - The Rumors Are True, I Deleted Olandria: Monday, July 27th, 2026

Episode Date: July 27, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Today's episode of The Toast is brought to you by Starbucks. At Starbucks, full and part-time baristas can build meaningful careers while getting industry-leading benefits like comprehensive health coverage and up to 18 weeks of paid parental leave without missing a step in their careers. Because at Starbucks, great benefits and opportunities to grow are just the start. Learn more at Starbucks.com. partners. It's Jackson, Claude and favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly, it's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Monday. Hope everybody had a fabulous weekend.
Starting point is 00:01:00 And speaking of fabulous, that is her simple request, all things fabulous. Never bigger. Better and best. You want something inspiring to. Oh, wait, hold on. This light is out. Oh, where's her light? Jernifred.
Starting point is 00:01:16 One of the lights. Jernopred. It's actually my light. And look who has your back. Jernipred. Okay, we're back. That was such a perfect intro. It was. I thought we could keep going, like, through the light.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Oh, should we keep this on? Okay, yeah, we're still recording. I need something inspiring to help me get along. I need a little fabulous. Is that so wrong? I've been thinking a lot about that sort of read to filth you gave Ashley Tisdale that like anyone could have played Charpe and like she wasn't like she was just sort of like replaceable.
Starting point is 00:01:54 I've been thinking about that a lot. And what do you think about the thesis? What a fun like intro to the show, very BTS. Very. What do you think about the thesis? I mean when I first heard it I couldn't get really past like the meanness of it. But now that I have that that has subsided like yeah. And she did always feel like slightly miscast.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Maybe because like if you grew up in the Disney Channel, world. You knew her as the like hotel concierge girl. She was like poor and like frumpy and London was London was the fabulous one and she was sort of like the house frow with like the fringe bangs and then we're supposed to believe and she was so believable. She was so good at that role. Maddie I think her name was so then we were supposed to believe that she's like this heiress. It was just like a huge flip. Well like a great actress would have you believing. But you're saying that we didn't believe. We didn't believe. And I as much as I stand by what I said like period. I didn't want to have to say it twice, you know.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Oh, and me bringing it back up. Yeah, yeah. I felt like I needed to say my truth, but like I don't really want to drill it in because, as you said. Like because of that aforementioned meanness. Yeah, let's move on. The mean-spirited nature of the comment. Let's move on. Welcome back to the toast.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Hope everybody had an amazing weekend. We did not to like rub it in. Yeah. Speaking of fabulous weekends. Like so much good food and family and memories and just like being outdoors, also being indoors. So much fresh air, like so much sea air. Activities. We felt this.
Starting point is 00:03:13 We went to the beach. We did go to the beach. Oh my God. It was one of those weekends where I was having so much fun. I didn't even post on my Instagram. And then when I went to post on my Instagram, I had nothing eligible to post because it was like all the kids. Nothing eligible. We had seaside contact naps.
Starting point is 00:03:25 We did have seaside contact naps. I don't really get contacts that much these days. So like when I get them, I try to really enjoy them. And when I tell you it was like one of the most miserable hours of my life, I was in this most uncomfortable chair at the beach. Ben kept disappearing. I didn't have my phone because it was Shabbat. And you guys know I've been like turning my phone off for Shabbat.
Starting point is 00:03:41 A contact nap without a Shabbat. I mean, a contact nap without a phone. And Jackie's over there with her little baby who's like so light and sleeping so good. And she has her phone. And she's just fitting perfectly in that chair. This chair just did not align with my coxidinia. So I have this enormous child. It was a wooden rocking chair, which was like amazing because we were able to rock them to sleep.
Starting point is 00:04:00 But then we're stuck in these wooden chairs. Hard. Not a cushion. Ben's gone. I'm so thirsty. I don't have a phone. I can't communicate with anyone to get me. And it's like I'm texting on your behalf, but Ben doesn't have a phone. Correct.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Zach's like on the beach with the kids. No one has a phone. I was like literally trying to flag down randoms to be like, can you bring me a bottle of water? I was dying. Ruby is so heavy. I haven't contact naped in so long. Let me tell you it was not magical.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Like my arm was broken. My leg was like sore. It was just like I wanted to enjoy it, but I didn't. It's the idea of the thing. Yeah, like a beachside contact nap and the pictures we took like so cute. What you don't see in those pictures is a woman suffering. Yeah. But we'll look back with rose-colored glasses and we'll remember the time.
Starting point is 00:04:38 We both took a beachside contact nap. We did. That's like a dream. If you told us this weekend. Again, we're going to sit in rocking chairs by the sea, and the babies are going to sleep on us. We'd say, that's the dream. Also, huge news from the weekend is that we have landed on a costume for the babies for Halloween, which I was worried about, but it sort of is so obvious.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Actually, talks me offline. I have an idea. What? So you don't want me to say the costume? No. Okay. One thousand percent. Yeah, so let's just sit down there.
Starting point is 00:05:07 The other huge news for the weekend. Oh, wait. I love. Love. The other huge news for the weekend that I thought you were going to say is the butterflies. Oh, I was not going to say that. The butterflies hatch, you guys. So what you're saying is,
Starting point is 00:05:18 it's butterfly season. I'm finding my wings. Good time for leaving behind the old me. Headed for blue skies and lavender fields. I heard one of them died. No, no, no, no. It's just a lazy one. All the butterflies hatch, which I think is kind of amazing,
Starting point is 00:05:40 because people said, like, and the manual says, Expects a couple to. Expects a couple of. deaths deaths yeah um every single one hatch they're in there fluttering the we have like a full ceremony when we release them like we'll all make speeches the manual says like keep them for five days because you should give them sugar water and they don't know this world yet so we are just like sort of nurturing them we have sugar water for them in there um Zach has been on top of yeah Zach's really been on top of he's been feeding them and then we will let them go in a couple days but people who have
Starting point is 00:06:10 done this have said that they actually like linger they stick around they stick around the area Even more like immediate, they will, they won't leave. Like one person said my child had a butterfly on their nose. Oh my God. Isn't that so cute? Speaking of butterfly on nose, do you guys wonder? You weren't even there for this. We're all playing in the kitchen.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Speaking of butterfly on nose. Yeah, right? Is that a good transition to what I'm about to say? We're all playing in the kitchen. And you know me. I'm on the couch. Ruby's on the floor. I monitor from the couch.
Starting point is 00:06:37 And yeah, there's a couch in our kitchen in this room. And let me just tell you, when I have my forever home, we're putting a couch in the kitchen. I love that, by the way. It's like a little love seat I'm always sitting on it. It's really like, it's for two, but one. One and a half. And Ruby's playing and he looks over.
Starting point is 00:06:51 I mean, he's got this like black thing coming out of his nose. And I'm like, what the hell is that? It looked like maybe like an old crusty, bloody booger. Classic. So I go get a tissue. I wipe in and I look. It's a ladybug. And I just feel like that means something, right?
Starting point is 00:07:07 Did you make a wish? I wasn't sure if it was crawling up or crawling out. I really hope it was crawling up. Of course. I think he's crawling up. You think, right? Yeah, yeah. Did you make a wish?
Starting point is 00:07:18 I didn't make a wish. I just felt that, like, in that moment, someone was speaking to me, and message received. I'm clear from who or what, but I feel like there was a message being sent. Ladybugs are like totally, like, if you're into like, who. Ladybugs are up there with butterflies, too. Yeah, they carry spirits. I think Teresa Caputo, like, is into butterflies. Well, our home is like very, you know, paranormal, I would say.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Remember the birds and the bugs? I remember the birds. It might be because our pool filter is broken, but it does feel very spiritual. There are, I actually totally agree there. It's like a clairvoyant essence to the home that we've rented. The birds fly really low around the pool. There's a lot of bugs and dragon flies.
Starting point is 00:07:59 And now people have said like, and the pool guy has said it's because the filter's broken. The pool guy did say that. It just feels more magical than that. And it was also the day that the skies were ashy, smoky. And so I think the birds were confused. But I have to tell you, you weren't in the backyard.
Starting point is 00:08:12 The other day it happened again. We were talking about it. But someone was like, don't tell Jackie because you were getting like really freaked out. The birds were circling it. Why do?
Starting point is 00:08:18 And I was like Googling it. Nobody had a clear. I've seen it sometimes where birds like gather and circle. Sometimes there's like a dead deer. Yes, yes. But there was nothing. They were all just like sort of hovering around us.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Yeah. I'm telling you, you're right. Like paranormal activity. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. So the butterflies can add to that. They came to the right place.
Starting point is 00:08:35 A thousand percent. They know. Are you feeling more comfortable? Are you going to call PETA on me for having butterflies like pets? It does. like again the nature of purchasing like human lives on Amazon is weird not human but like lives on Amazon yeah I the thing is I saw blackfish and once you've seen blackfish the documentary it unfortunately
Starting point is 00:08:57 changes you as a person and if you don't want to like walk through this world just feeling so sad for animals I really wouldn't recommend seeing it I wouldn't because while it was amazing like it did ruin a lot of things for me SeaWorld most specifically but just like a lot of things like I can't even go to the zoo anymore without asking like is this like a conservatory like yeah right um so i just yeah butterflies are people too yeah but they're living a wonderful life like
Starting point is 00:09:20 i don't know they're like living in a tiny like hamper they're literally in a hamper it's just like how a baby sleeps in a crib and it's fit for their size to them that's a palace whatever i'm over it because it's like bringing the kids so much joy and we're like learning about you know and they're happy they have sugar water yeah and apparently they don't even want to leave us because they have stockholm syndrome allegedly that's
Starting point is 00:09:38 remains to be seen. Let's see what happened. So far we've had an amazing experience because also people said when they come out of their cancunes, there's a lot of like red liquid like blood. So like put a towel down, which I did and it's been like, minimal blood. Squeaky clean. Everyone lived like, I'm sorry, I think we're an amazing habitat. I think we're an amazing habitat. Oh, you think the clairvoyant energy creates like a really positive womb like experience? No, I meant more so I think we're like amazing caretakers to these better flies. You're saying we a lot when it's literally just Zach. Well, I check in on them when I walk past. You don't actually. Do you see my story yesterday? I was
Starting point is 00:10:08 filming them? You only, you would literally use them for content. You have no, you don't give them sugar water, you don't like give them sunshine. You literally do nothing. Zach does it all and you're literally like a toxic mommy blogger. Okay, Ruby Frankie. You are Ruby Frankie. Okay, I keep putting the towel because someone can't see you. Yes, you're obsessed with the towel. Like, because I'm like scared of it's going to stay. It's a rental. Of course. It's a rental. One thing about us, like we're getting our deposit back. Yeah, except. What'd you do? Not me. Who? Oh, yes. I know Romeo had a little accident this morning, but we cleaned it. up. Yeah, we did. I actually can. We come with that red spray, the, the pet spray, and
Starting point is 00:10:43 Folex. It's gone. Don't even look for it. I actually couldn't bind it. Also, what I was going to say, speaking of being in a rental, I'm watching more off campus. And I just want to update you guys on my thoughts because I'm so locked in. This show is very serious. I know. It's very deep. I told you Thanksgiving takes a turn. No, not even Thanksgiving. Delaney, that motherfucker from St. Andrews. Oh, I was like, wait, what did I miss? I know. Which part did you get to? So he just like, spoiler alert, even though everyone watched this two months ago,
Starting point is 00:11:14 got suspended four games and C double A. Wasn't that the best scene ever? No. It made me sick. Okay, I loved that scene when he like figured it out in the moment, dropped the stick and just beat the shit out of him. No. Except I had one issue with the scene.
Starting point is 00:11:25 That was not justice. Why? Because he's the ones. You get your ass beat. Yeah. But that's what Delaney wanted to throw him win the game. Well, yes. He loses the game loses four games.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Now he's going to be, now they lost all of their games. Yeah. It lost Hannah. That was not justice. And that didn't make Hannah happy. And I just, that made me so mad. And that guy is such a disgusting devil. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Devil. So I only had one issue with the scene. Like the whole show, I thought Eric Graham was like so hot. I loved him. Like everything he did. I was like, yes. Like that's my king right there. But when he's in slow motion getting escorted off the ice and she's like standing by
Starting point is 00:11:59 the like locker room gate, like, girl, why are you standing there first of all? Yeah, I was thinking like, I can't stand that long. That just gave me the ick to like, I didn't like that like. the way he was walking and then she saw him. I just like, that was the one seat at the whole show like I actually really didn't like, just that one tiny thing. I really, I mean, of course made me feel things, but that was not justice. That's not how I wanted to go down.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Now, of course, like, and I was wondering, is she going to tell him before the game that could throw him before the game? And it's also like not just about the game. No, of course, of course. It's real life, too. But like, I almost wish, like, she would have told him so he could have, like, not reacted. Of course. And he could have prepared. He could have taken it out on him in like a way that's sanction because they can
Starting point is 00:12:36 beat each other up as guess as long as you're holding. your stick. Yeah, right. No, but he, like, totally, like, loves off, literally. Yeah. So, like, he could have held his stick and beat him up with the stick. Yeah. So that was frustrating.
Starting point is 00:12:48 But the show is, like, very gripping. It's not even, like, a sex show. I feel like it was totally mismarketed. There's, like, three sex scenes. And even, like, Dean and Allie, who are obviously the nude members of the cast, when they have their sex scenes, like, it's not a porno. You actually don't, like, see private parts. A lot of genitalia.
Starting point is 00:13:04 And then they, like, they threw in the locker room penises, you know, for TikTok and what. And like to be equal because we saw boobs, like, so we have to see penises. But I'm just, I'm very gripped. And I do now, like, love Garrett and Hannah. That scene in the parking lot was devastating. I'm sick that they're not together. But I know earlier in my recaps, I said, I don't love them the way I love Ellen Miles. I love them now.
Starting point is 00:13:25 I really do. And I'm sick they're not together. Oh my God. And, like, when they wrote the character of her mother, they just decided to make the best woman ever. Oh, my God. I got, like, really choked up during that scene. A lot of people made fun. There was a lot of...
Starting point is 00:13:38 On the phone. Yeah, there were a lot of, like, memes. Like, why was she wearing the helmet? Like, the helmet? And, like, people made all these graphics because, like, she wears the helmet the whole scene. And it's, like, kind of big. And so people just started, like, recreating the scene.
Starting point is 00:13:51 But, like, they had AI make the helmet, like, time it's bigger. I thought that scene was so... Yes, exactly. Was so well written. Yeah. They hired an angel to play her mother. And then they hired an angel to write for her. I got really.
Starting point is 00:14:07 really choked up. Like, it was just, like, you realize this girl has, like, the weight of the world on her shoulders. Like, for what? Yeah. And, yeah, I agree. I'm so, that scene was, like, really beautiful. No, and just always, like, her mom is just, when she's on the FaceTime, like, she, they just decided to write, like, the most, like, a love letter to mothers, like,
Starting point is 00:14:22 the most wonderful character ever. I totally agree. So we met her. How many more episodes do you have? I have no idea. Okay. I need my, my gang Tia Pack together. Of course.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Also, Joanna Maxwell. Oh, yeah, the actor, like. giving the worst advice. Like, I don't know if we were meant to, like, in that moment be like, yeah, the advice is good, but it just shows how much Ali actually likes Dean that she's not, like, going to move on so quickly and have meaningless sex. But I'm like, if you're watching that scene, like, just know that that's the worst advice.
Starting point is 00:14:52 It's true. Like, to go and have meaningless sex for, because you're in college and you should. Just like, just to get us. Just to prove that you're not hung up on this next guy that you're seeing after your boyfriend. Like, no, you've been over your boyfriend for a really long time. You've been ready for something new. sure you also can't be alone but you know what plenty of girls can't and you know what we're fine we are fine oh claudy can't be alone i cannot be alone it's true you've never been alone and i like
Starting point is 00:15:15 never want to be right it is like my big my biggest fear is being alone and you're very high functioning kind of it's true only like unless like ben's golfing yeah i'm really high functioning for most things yeah except like i can't get like any meals like if ben's golfing all day like i just snack all day like I don't make meals. Okay, that's fine. Yeah. Plenty of people snack all day and they don't have a good reason. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Snack is their personal chef. I also snack all day like when he's there, but I also have meals. Yeah. Yeah, I'm pretty high functioning. I agree. So, like, it's not the worst thing. So you found your perfect person a week after you broke up with not even 48 hours. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:53 After you broke up with your boyfriend, like, you can't plan things. Man plans. God laughs. So, like, she's so hard on herself. Like, just let yourself be with Dean. I just thought that was the worst advice. And I was just wondering, like, when the writers wrote that. Is it like let's give her great advice and she doesn't take it?
Starting point is 00:16:07 Or like let's make this the worst person ever. Yeah, I don't remember if that Joanna character was in the book. Like so inconsequential and like so random. But it was like fun that hockey player, the, um, who's Joanna's brother. Uh-huh. He drove home. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I like him.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Me too. He's like a bridge. Is he gay? Like, are we supposed to believe that he's gay? No, his sister just is in the theater. Oh, okay. Oh, right. And he just like knows theater because of that.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Oh, yeah. And like, so he's like a nice bridge between like Allie and hockey. And I like the role. that he served. Yeah. Well, I'm so glad you're loving it. I'm really loving it and I guess I wish I watched it when everyone did so that people would care about what I have to say now but I'm sorry, I'm here now. Listen.
Starting point is 00:16:44 I'll try not to do it again. It's not about the journey. It's about the destination. And for so long we were like with Jackie like it was Jackie like. Like what about this would you think I wouldn't like? That's a good question. I think that it is not that sexual but I don't know
Starting point is 00:17:00 why we just like because the book is very porny. So we just consider it like a show, even though it's like literally not compared to like some of the... I'm so desensitized now. Yeah, but I do think that like when things are overtly and really unnecessarily graphic in terms of like nudity and sexuality, that is a turnoff for you. But I guess in hindsight, like this book has a reputation for being porny, but it's really not as a TV show.
Starting point is 00:17:19 There's not a lot of porn. It is like a little silly, you know, fake boyfriend like that was your first. Yes. But we moved on from that. So it's a little unsirious. Rather quickly and like literally just threw Justin Guarini in the garbage after using him. Yellow, yellow.
Starting point is 00:17:34 you know what I hadn't gotten to you when you said have you gotten to yellow his I just assumed that was like one of his songs I hadn't gotten to it and now I know it's like it's like it's not bad it's just not good and it's just and it's he was right to say like you don't like it because you didn't write it and you don't share but like I like it and I'm proud of it now that you like understand gary graham like what do you think is next for him in terms because the next season like he's in but he's not a star he is going to be you know huge but like What would be the right next gig for him? I think he should do more heartthrob stuff and like not.
Starting point is 00:18:11 He should lean in. He doesn't need to switch lanes like so quickly. I agree. But it's hard to like once you get the biggest show of the year like to find the next big thing. 100%. He needs a good agent. He does need a good agent. And a manager.
Starting point is 00:18:22 He is dating his girlfriend like the same girlfriend since before he was famous. She's a writer. Not on this show just like a TV writer and they were both like up and comers. And they're still together. That's good. Yeah. That's good. He needs to stay grounded.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Like you could float away with your head getting so big. Yeah. I'm just like, I'm really sick. Remember when Jacob Allorty? And obviously everything worked out for Jacob Allorty, so I'm not criticizing his choices. But like when he was in the kissing booth, he was like this teen heartthrob. And he sort of ran from that. He never did another movie like that again.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Whereas like Noah Centennial really leaned into that like young adult heartthrob almost too much. And he never did a dead end. Yeah. Correct. And so it also reminds me of like Reg J. John. Like you had this one show that was huge. You were the star. The next season like you could be on.
Starting point is 00:19:03 but you're not going to be the star, so what are you going to do next? Yeah, but I, Garik Graham is confirmed filming. Ray Jeanne left the building. Right, right, right. No, but, but this show isn't going to be like,
Starting point is 00:19:11 he should stay on out of respect and like, because why not? Literally. But he needs to line something up, though. I'm very curious, like, what his strategy is. Yeah. Because I think Jacob Laudy is like one in a million. Like, he became the biggest actor of his time and that's great.
Starting point is 00:19:26 But like, I don't think that happens to most people. No, and it definitely was strategic, you know? Yeah, no centennial. Like, it was good until it wasn't. Yeah. But those movies were so popular. Like Netflix just kept churning out. I remember the one about tall girls.
Starting point is 00:19:38 One about short girls. We love tall girl. That's our favorite one. And the best artist had Sabrina Carpenter's in it as the short friend. As a short friend, yeah. This is like we could we wrote this. It's like an AI generated movie from our brain. What are the stories today?
Starting point is 00:19:53 Oh, you know, bits and bobs. Like nothing major, but like a lot of stuff that we like talking about, you know? Like not breaking news, but like we will enjoy ourselves. Yeah. I feel like that feels that feels like how I would describe it Oh and then I guess the headline Is that I'm wearing a dress on the show?
Starting point is 00:20:09 You know what's so funny? I was just about to bring it up Because you look so great That's the only other thing That's like worth mentioning today Jackie and I are just sort of like breaking down Over here when it comes to what to wear on the toast Like obviously it's summer
Starting point is 00:20:20 We have so many cute like outfits A lot of them are ineligible for the toast Because like we're on camera We're in these chairs like I'm sitting cross like it So like a lot of our shorts A lot of our minis Like it's just not We don't want to wear
Starting point is 00:20:32 like shorts are like mid dresses on the show because I just don't think I'm going to like how I look like the chair. You're like to move around. Right. So I literally put on shorts today because I'm sick. I don't want to wear pants again. I feel like I've worn this outfit three times. I keep wearing like the same thing and I just like I don't want to wear it today.
Starting point is 00:20:47 So I put on shorts and then I'm like I know I'm not going to like that. But what if I wore a nap dress because it still goes all the way to the floor and like it's just a little something different. So I just wanted to like see how it goes, you know. Put a little blue in my hair for the teen vogue party. Is that a sick, exactly? I don't know that. It's like a viral interview from Selena Gomez, like when she's like 11.
Starting point is 00:21:07 She has like blue streaks in her hair. She's like, I just wanted to do something different for like the teen vogue party. That's how I feel today. That's what you say when you're like being crazy. Okay, I'm being crazy. Plus I'm like doing a bunch of stuff after this and I was like, I don't really want to be wearing like pants in a sweater. And let's see how it goes. I actually don't think it's going to be that crazy considering like the dress covers everything.
Starting point is 00:21:27 No. And as of this morning, like we will have two blankets here tomorrow. and we've decided, or at least I've decided, like, I'm going to be wearing my shorts, because I have a bunch of really cute sets that are shorts and T-shirts, and I'll be wearing them with a blanket. So if you see me, like, sweating my ass off
Starting point is 00:21:40 because I'm under a blanket, don't ask questions. And I do also see a lot of comments, like, you guys, some are like, aren't you warm in your outfits? And it's like, no, the studio is, like, temperate control. But it's like, it's just not what I want to be putting on in the morning and then, like, leaving here in. So work with us, okay?
Starting point is 00:21:54 We're, like, going through a period of growth, like butterflies. And don't be, like, counting how many times somebody wore one shirt. Don't be counting. We're working with limited wardrobe. We didn't pack our whole closets. I packed a suitcase. And I didn't know what we're going to be like the things I want to wear every day.
Starting point is 00:22:07 We're sort of like butterflies coming out of our cocoons. That's beautiful. So like watch this space. Or don't. Like. Or listen to this space. Yes. Without further ado-to-do.
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Starting point is 00:26:46 You're welcome. Our first story, more wedding bells. Emma Roberts. Oh my God. This was like such a shock. Married actor Cody John in lavish Idaho wedding. So Emma Roberts married her fiance, I guess. Cody John in front of their close friends and family at a romantic ceremony in Sun Valley, Idaho on Saturday after four years of dating.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Close friends and family were in attendance for the couple's special day, including, of course, her famous auntie. Emily Roberts. Oh, yeah, Julia Roberts. Okay, like Slay Mama didn't know that you even had a boyfriend. I feel like we knew that she had a boyfriend, but I just didn't know that, like, married. was in her future. Yeah, I mean, for some of us, like, we are still at the restaurant, of course. Like, her and Garrett Headland might.
Starting point is 00:27:29 And, like, I feel like, Garrett Headland is not famous. Like, he was in country strong. My favorite movie. I don't think a lot of people say that. Georgia Rule. Georgia Rule. Your other favorite movie. And then, like, never was seen or heard from again and randomly, like, dated Emma Roberts
Starting point is 00:27:43 for a while. They had a child together. I do believe the relationship was, like, hella toxic. Yeah, like, they hate each other. It's really bad. I think it's, like, a hard co-parenting relationship. So, like, I don't ship whatsoever. but that was just like a happy time for me.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Yeah. I'm glad you were having fun because I don't know that they were having much. Yeah. And she seems really happy. And I mean, four years dating someone in Hollywood, that's a long time. And then the commitment of marriage,
Starting point is 00:28:03 like is a big deal. Yeah. She also had like a very, like people are obsessed. When people think of Emma Roberts' relationships, they're obsessed with her and Evan Peters, the guy from Sleepover. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:12 For me, like that's not my thing. No, no. My thing is Garrett Headland, but like I understand why people are obsessed with them too. My thing is Emma Roberts. She just, is that girl.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Yeah, she really is like, everything she touches like turns to gold and she really like is that girl for like women our age yes for women of a certain age yeah she kind of is like means everything to us yeah it's fabulous tell me lies unfabulous wasn't even like the number one show at the time she was you know in this slug with like a lot of girls like selina and myly and like she actually emerged the most normal well successful ones so i think the way we feel about emma roberts is how a lot of people feel about hillary duff like was your Fave growing up, grew up to be so normal, continues to, like, put out Slay work younger and all of her recent projects and her music.
Starting point is 00:28:58 I don't, like, have that for Hillary Duff. Obviously, I have, like, my own personal issues with her. But that's how I feel about Emma Roberts. Like, she's literally never once let me down. Even when I feel that she probably had, like, a, I guess she, I don't know when it was, but she definitely had like a Miley Cyrus and her dead pets era, you know. Not dead pets. Maybe like a bangers era.
Starting point is 00:29:15 When you're a teen star, maybe a bangers era. always have like a troubled youth era. She never let me down. Yeah. No, and she's like so stylish. Scream queens. Then she's like funny. She reads.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Yeah. And she's just the whole package. It's true. So the whole- Monique Lullier. The whole package decided to get married. Like that's a big deal. Totally.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Makes him the whole package as well. And I don't know if she's ever been married. No. I didn't really know like we were going to get married. Yeah, no, me neither. I didn't know this was an option. Yeah. I just figured like we engaged and.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Yeah. and be partners. And her and Julia, like their classic nepo peeps, but I never, like, I don't know, I feel like maybe at one time I would have thought that they were like on the outs.
Starting point is 00:29:58 They like don't really interact. Yeah, but it's nice to know. It's her auntie. Right, it's not like her mom. Her auntie. And I didn't realize like Julie Roberts is a famous auntie, you know?
Starting point is 00:30:10 She joins a long line. A role model for women like us. Who else is a famous ante? The Kardashians are all antises to one another. Yeah, and they're like, they're proud aunties. They take it seriously. And a lot of people are antis. I guess Chelsea Handler is an anti.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Absolutely. Scary one. That thing is so funny. Yeah, actually, it came across my Instagram again and I was reading the comments. She was responding to a lot of people. Okay. People had a lot of thoughts on it, both positive and negative. Have we gotten any more clarity?
Starting point is 00:30:39 Well, someone was like, well, I agree with everything you're saying, but like, why are you sharing this? Yeah. And she said that she had written this up and shared it with a bunch of her. friends and you know personally shared it and apparently it went like mega viral that like it started like you know being made into graphics and stuff on instagram people not attributing it to her that's why it had her like logo in it this time remember you were saying it had like um so she just like wanted to like get credit for it i don't know worse it makes it worse yeah it was a really weird story it's not like she's like you know a burgeoning creator correct credit like sometimes when
Starting point is 00:31:16 things go viral beyond you like that's a good thing that happens to me sometimes yeah it's happened to us you know like almost all of our viral sounds like are not attributed to us yeah but that's good like great go live on that means it's like it's that big that's why we do what we do it's true we don't do it for the credit you guys oh my gosh no no tag us um at toast podcast that thing is just so weird yeah yeah well mazel tov to the to the john roberts is mausel Do you think she's going to change her name? Emma John Roberts? Emma Roberts, John.
Starting point is 00:31:51 No. That's two man's last names. Yeah, it's true. No. No, Emma Roberts. Are you ready for our next story? I am. An update in our leading story of the year.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Chelsea Hanlon. Nick Van Steenberg speaks out after a Nickelandria split. I'm so glad we're talking about the paywall statement. Yes, so Nick of Nicania is addressing... Nick of Nicania fame. is Nick Allandria Is addressing a split from
Starting point is 00:32:19 Nick in Nicolandria Is addressing a split from Allandria So we reported last week that Nicolandria is done But neither of them had said anything about this split Except for Alandria saying that she's suing Demosimo Demos.
Starting point is 00:32:33 So he posted a statement on his subscribers only TikTok Oh, TikTok? I didn't even know you could have subscribers only TikTok Apparently you can Yeah, okay, And there are people who subscribe to Nick Vans Stingberg.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Okay. He said, The Rumors are True. At deleted my Elandria. Title. We love to. We can get Nickelandria in the title all five days in a row. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:03 The Rumors is True. I deleted allendria. I'm sure this podcast is such a thorn in their side. You know what I mean? Like we don't let up. We don't let up. And I know, because. we had posted some clips and people think
Starting point is 00:33:16 that we're coming from a hateful place. Like, when I tell you no two people have been bigger supporters of Alandria since day one. It's so true. We were in the trenches watching, wanting better for her. Like, you all were like wanting her and Taylor together. We wanted better for her. We didn't even want her. We wanted Jalen. Yeah, right. So it's like, we have been her biggest fans and like almost just
Starting point is 00:33:32 wanting better for her than she wants for herself. Yeah. So I know a lot of people think we come from a hateful place, but you have no idea, like, how deep in this we are. But yes, they definitely send our clips back and forth to each other and be like, man, because the thing is, we have been onto them from the very first minute. Yeah, I feel like a lot of people have like their podcast or something who just like hate them, you know? And it's like, we're not haters at all. No,
Starting point is 00:33:54 no, but I feel like that's what they think we are. Right. Maybe Nick like and his publicist like send our clips around. Like what are we going to do about these two? Right. You know that New York Times interview that we were talking about being loved out loud. I actually saw another clip from it that did not go viral at the time that absolutely should have. Bring it up. Bring it up. They were talking about, well actually she was just saying, he didn't even say anything the whole interview. He's just looking at her and being like, what are you talking about? She was basically saying that they still weren't boyfriend and girlfriend. And nobody thought to make that go viral and we should talk about that.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Well, why wouldn't you a year later be boyfriend and girlfriend? Oh, because you are fake. Right, because you're just exploring the connection. That's really weird. She just said that out loud, like not even like a secret. That's insane. That's insane. And that's why their statement was so vague because you can break up.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Everything has been vague. And it's like, I guess if you go back and look at it. everything like I don't think she has told a lie right she's just manipulated language you guys just like didn't believe her right even when she when asked a couple like two months ago or a month ago by cosmo I think like what do you have to say to the people fans don't like believe it and she like her statement was that of someone who's not in a real relationship just she was like I just don't know why people would care like if I'm with him at co-teller or not like I'm just not on the internet like that yeah and it's like you went on love island no and it's like are you together right yes or no not
Starting point is 00:35:10 that I needed any more proof that this was vague, but like Nick putting his big statement behind a paywall, like, okay. He said the rumor, now we can get back to the statement. The rumors are true. Yeah, deleted Olandria. Whatever his statement is, it's just not going to be better than that. Of course not. The rumors are true. I didn't want to give people false hope, so I want to clear the air. We will continue to love each other always. It's a sensitive as well as a private subject. Thank you for respecting our privacy. Well, don't get to edit yourself thanking us because we're not going to.
Starting point is 00:36:03 And also, like, in this statement, there's no, we didn't break up. Right. There's no mention of Melandria. So here's the thing, two business people. I didn't want to give false hope that we, like, fell out of business together. Like I've been doing for the last year. So when I clear the air, we will continue to love each other always. I would say that about anyone.
Starting point is 00:36:17 A business partner, yeah, that you, like, worked with for a whole year. It's a sensitive as well as a private subject. Thank you for respecting our privacy. Said nothing. Yeah, said nothing. Said nothing. And they've been saying nothing. And it's true.
Starting point is 00:36:28 You guys have missed that. Even in the last episodes of Love Island, they just kept talking about, like, their connection and they're so glad. And people took that as, like, they love each other when that's never what they said. Yeah, it's like a friendship breakup. That's really more what it is. Yeah, and then he wrote in the caption on why he did it, subscribers only. He said, I wanted to do it on here because you guys are our biggest supporters.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Do what? You're acting like you gave people, like, some great gift. Confirm it. But, like, it was confirmed. Your reps spoke to people. Like, I wasn't waiting to see whether this was true or not. Like, it's true. It's like there were a couple of like
Starting point is 00:36:58 Doudalandria. Well like the true Nicolandria diehard's like refused like club Elandria Club Nicolandria they refused to believe that this is true. Yeah, I'm still laughing from the tweet I showed you last week that I really thought was true.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Right. But like but there are people who do think that. Yeah. So confirmed they've split I wonder like what will come out next because it's like it's not good. It's not. And I really didn't see this happening like
Starting point is 00:37:24 Like back for her. Yeah. Yeah. at least while they were together it's like okay well you're continuing the lie right we can't really say anything you have improved us right right it's like when you have a scheme it's like while you're scheming everything's fine it's until you're found right right well consider consider you found consider yourselves found yeah um also like a little follow-up love island news melanie and sincere responded i saw that's really unfortunate because like all signs were pointing to her having like
Starting point is 00:37:50 woken up yeah but she's still sleeping and personally like with the island is like you're no longer my problem. So like if you want to be dumb, girl, like I support it, like go. Because I don't have to watch it anymore. You know, I had to watch it. And so I needed you to start making good decisions because I was being forced to watch.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Now that I'm not like, seriously, I don't give a fuck what you freaks do. Have fun. Yeah. Also, I needed them to break up on the show. Correct. If they even broke up the day after they get home, I don't care.
Starting point is 00:38:19 If they break up next week, I don't care. There are all these brands being like, Melanie, if you leave him, we'll give you, you know, seeking tickets for life. that should only have applied on the show. Agreed. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Like, oh, you broke up with your loser boyfriend. I don't care. Welcome to the club. I do believe those offers are no longer valid. Yeah, I just hope that, like, there's not going to be a big celebration when they do break up because, like, the test, you failed. You failed the test. You failed the course.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Yeah. And again, like, these are no longer my monkeys. This is not my circus. Yeah. I'm personally, I'm out. I tried to help you guys at the time. Nobody wanted to listen to me. I also don't think there's really anything from the season that she would have seen.
Starting point is 00:39:01 That was, like, worse than how she felt in the villa. Like, there wasn't, like, a big smoking gun. Like, I feel like movie night packaged it up as bad as you possibly could. To the point of, like, beloved, beloved. Like, they actually edited it, not to make it worse, but, like, punch you in the face with it. And it really did not move the needle at all. So nothing she watched in the season.
Starting point is 00:39:19 She hears all the good stuff that's sincere. She sees the good instances when he's, of his confessionals, you know, how she is the epitone. of beauty in class. Of course. So I don't think watching the season really changed anything for her and he's not in the doghouse
Starting point is 00:39:32 more so than he was. No, no. She's just going to have to like learn the hard way. If anything, she'll see how he struggled between her and soul and her and Amora. Yeah, and I think like when they first get out, it's like super easy to be happy. Like everyone loves you and it's just also exciting
Starting point is 00:39:46 but that does die down and at a certain point you're just like left with the person and I think that's when like he'll get into trouble because he is like a philander and he is a bad guy and he has access to now all these people. Yeah. So it's only a matter of time. And I don't want to be right, but like I am.
Starting point is 00:39:58 And it's not going to be like, go Melanie, like, whenever she does do it. Like, you fail the test. Not for me, I mean. I know. The world will probably. The internet, like, loves to celebrate a woman getting out of a bad relationship. I do too, of course. But, like, I do also hold space for, like, you know, you making those bad decisions.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Are you animatics? Like, yeah, we knew he was bad. You were with him for 10 years, like, fighting for him and telling everyone how wrong we were. And it's like, yeah, we turned out to be right. And it's like, I'm so glad you're out of that, of course. But, like, let's hold space for the accountability. Yeah. especially when like you get to see it on it played out in TV yeah television show what this person said did when you weren't looking like same that was like I mean it was gonna be like Amanda's fate but obviously things changed on a dime for her but like everyone was like she's free she's free I'm like she's free from self-imposed prison like she chose this person he cheated on her before they got married they decided to get married they're fighting all the way up to the wedding none of this was new information right so it's like I don't really like feel bad for you like oh no it's the consequences of your own actions okay mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:40:55 Like sometimes you get in situations that, like, seriously are terrible. No, you get, like, bamboozled. Yeah, that's just not what happened with, like, Ariamatics or, uh, Amanda. Yeah. I don't know if you saw, like, West's, like, is, like, starting stuff. Can I say what you sent? Yeah. There wasn't a DNS.
Starting point is 00:41:13 I'm sorry. I obviously tried to DNS, but, like, if I don't DNS, well, let me just tell you. So, you know that he hosts a podcast? Yes. With a WNBA star. Yeah. Like, up until recently, I wasn't familiar with. Oh, she's, like, one of the big ones.
Starting point is 00:41:25 So, yeah, one of the big ones of the WMBA. Yes. Her name is Sophie Cunningham. Yes. And, like, in the last week, she's actually, like, gone mega viral within the WNBA because she spoke out on the issue of trans athletes. And she, you know, said something that most people don't say, which is that, like, it directly impacts us.
Starting point is 00:41:41 I don't think it's fair. Like, she keeps getting asked about it. Of trans women in women's sports specifically. She said, she just said her piece and then she keeps getting asked about it. She's like, I said what I said. Like, she's not backtracking on it. and it went super viral over the weekend. And then West, like, this is his podcast host, West made a TikTok just basically being like,
Starting point is 00:42:06 you know, this is not a real issue, it poses a threat to nobody. Can I see it? Yeah, kind of, you know, like echoing a lot of the popular, like, woke theories, theses on trans women in sports. Oh, that trans women are a threat to no, like, in sports. This is a non-issue. I thought like Sophie's saying that. No, no. Wes was just basically directly contradicting her.
Starting point is 00:42:26 I'll play for you. Hold on. Sharing his thoughts about trans women. Yeah, and just basically disregarding it. Like, this is not an issue. You're all crying about nothing. Like, okay, here, ready? Okay, transgender athletes in American sports. Okay, transgender athletes in American sports is such a
Starting point is 00:42:44 borderline non-existent issue that right-wingers have convinced a massive portion of people in our country that it, that, that these people are like a threat to sports in America when like mathematically that's not the case at all. And by continuing to platform this fucking politicians, athletes, journalists, news outlets, you're only isolating transgender people, even more by making them seem like this giant group of people is a threat to society, a threat to sports, when that's just not proportionately the truth in any capacity.
Starting point is 00:43:15 There is like 10 transgender athletes in all of the NCAA. And so I think there are unique questions that can be handed. on individual basis but to allow us to take our attention away from like housing and health care and wars and all the other. Oh, that's always that. Actual harmful shit in our country is done.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Like we can't have another conversation because of housing and health care. Now, it's been very interesting because Wes has always really been this like a very like woke Bravo star and he's like always really like pushing very like pro female messaging. And I think that he thinks that that is like
Starting point is 00:43:52 sort of a not a get out of jail free card, but like just a way to usher goodwill with the Bravo universe. Let me tell you the comments we're eating him up. I did not see one positive comment. And also it's like you're obviously directing this at your co-host who like has a thought and it's like well why don't you have the conversation on your podcast?
Starting point is 00:44:09 Like what's with you coming? First of all no one was waiting for you to give your opinion on this. But I think he doesn't want to go down with her and he doesn't like if she's like she don't, I'm sure she didn't want to go down with him. Right. It's so true. And she sat on her podcast listening to him talk about falling in love with Amanda and you know, did ask the heart. Have this conversation on the podcast. Leave us the fuck out of it. Definitely
Starting point is 00:44:25 have the conversation on the podcast. But it's really crazy because I think this is a topic where like where wires get crossed like woke wires because it's like a women's issue. Right. And you're a man like you shouldn't speak on it. Because we're talking about in women's sports. It's not really an issue in male men's sports. So like if you're a man, why are you going to tell the woman what she should or should not feel? Yeah. That's typically like in the woke world not done. So here are some of the comments. Okay. This is the top one. Said by a man who has a long history of not caring about women. It doesn't affect you, but it does affect many young women in their experience. West, just stop.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Ah, tag her then? Like, yeah, like, leave us out of it. Women have fought hard. Like, people, there is not one person. I think you're diabolical. I think a lot of people, I think he just thought that, like, it's just a, kind of like an easy way to curry favor with Bravo fans, which are mostly women, by just, like, saying what you think is, like, an approved, an approved take. But people were, like, literally nothing he says, first of all. Like, this is just proof that, like, nothing he could say, like, is going to make people like him. So it's so funny because, like, Sophie cunning him, like, is an actual female athlete.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Like, this does affect her. So she is poised to, like, have an opinion on it. Right. Whether you like it or not, like, she's well within her rights. Who the fuck are you? Who the fuck are you? And I don't like throwing your co-host under the bus when she stood by you when you're the most hated man in America.
Starting point is 00:45:37 So I can't tell if this is, like, beef. Yeah, he definitely does not want to be aligned. No. And it's like, well, she probably didn't want to be aligned with you either, but, like, co-hosts fried for each other. She's allowed to have an opinion. Like, my God, you're so weak. Like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Yeah. It was really drama. Especially because, like, for... It took me a while to put it together, like, why people cared. And then I realized that the girl I've been seeing go viral for her statements is the podcast host. Got it. Who was asking him about Amanda. Like, I just, I don't follow WMBA.
Starting point is 00:46:03 So, like, I didn't know, like, why I was supposed to care. Now I understand. And, like, you can host a podcast with someone. Who you have a different opinion on. I think people, like, like, like, that. Yeah, of course. It's very interesting. It's very interesting.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Yeah, it causes good conversation. Like, you know what, they should have this combo. And I didn't see her statements. And I guess if I had seen it, but it was just very much like, it's not fair. Right, no, but if I had seen it, would I then have wondered, like, what does West think about this? If you had seen it and also known that this was West's? Yeah. I don't think, I think I would have thought, like, yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Damn, that's hard for him because I know that he really just, like, wants to be on the right side. He wants to be, like, beloved of wokeism. Yeah. But, like, truly, he's at a, this is just proof. The belovedness is. out the door. It's just proof that he's really far gone. Now you've sort of turned on someone who had your back and you work with and it's giving,
Starting point is 00:46:55 you know, like Justin Maldoni and the podcast host. Totally. This is like to me the big takeaway is like you're like stunting on your co-host. By the way, if you have a different opinion than her, amazing. Like you actually should talk about on the podcast because I don't know what the hell else you guys talk about on your podcast. The thing is though what's also so weak of him. It's like is his opinion, he didn't state an opinion like of why it's a good thing.
Starting point is 00:47:15 He just said it's not a big deal. Don't worry about. Let's talk about war. Like if you have a strong opinion and you have facts and you want to explain why everyone's overreacting, go ahead. But like that's not an opinion. That's like a we needy take. Just trying to like, you know, dismiss what she said. Yeah. And what people think.
Starting point is 00:47:37 But that's not an actual rebuttal to war argument. But like maybe they'll do it on the podcast. I don't know if they have like so much to talk about these days. So like, sure. Sure. I'm sad. Yeah, right. I'm sad if you guys want to go step.
Starting point is 00:47:47 This is a sports podcast. Oh, yes, it is. Speaking of women's issues, are you ready for our next story? One number three. So you are ready. Paige Lorenz is getting into some Instagram drawing. I am obsessed with this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:02 So Paige Lorenz woke up and decided to actually know. She chose truth. She did choose truth, but she didn't start it. So a long time Nantucket story, you know, Nantucket is her island where she has her daring voice. She runs that town. This store in Nantucket called Four Winds Craft Guild, which has been in business since 1948.
Starting point is 00:48:22 It sells handcrafted Bascus, purses, local artwork and carvings according to their website. So, you know, it's just like, like, wears. And it's, like, historic. It's storied on Nantucket. On Nantucket. And they posted an Instagram story of their shop, and there's a sign at the top.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Very, like, nice looking, you know, they took time to make. Very, like, live, left, love, hand carved. Yeah, not like we wrote on a sign. No, it's like, it's wood engraved. It says no influence. It did go viral. So before Paige even commented on it, I had seen this. Like that the store on Nantucket was like, you know, putting their foot down on influencer culture. There was a lot of discourse around it. I obviously like rolled my eyes at it and moved on with my day. And then I saw this morning that Paige Lorenz had left like a really lengthy comment on it. This is what she said. If you call your, and mind you like she's the queen of Dan Tucket. She opened her own storefront. She is an influencer who is like, you know, making things happen on the island. Absolutely. Using her influence. So it does feel like if they're, if who are they talking about? here, Paige and the like of Paige. Yeah, I could see like if Paige took this personally.
Starting point is 00:49:22 And they're talking about, although I don't know if they were really talking about her, but more so like the, more so the culture she brings to the island. She said, if you call yourself a feminist but proudly put up a no influencer sign, it's worth asking who you are attempting to delegitimize and why. Mocking women when they become powerful in a new industry isn't new. It's just a strange message coming from a store that celebrates a craft with such a rich, rich history of women shaping the island and its economy. For those who don't know, the creator economy is overwhelmingly driven by women. Brands have shifted billions of dollars into creator marketing because it consistently delivers something traditional advertising can't. Trust, community, and measurable sales.
Starting point is 00:50:00 One woman with a loyal audience can successfully launch a business at a scale that would once have required corporate backing and massive advertising budgets. That's a win. This sign isn't. Oh my God. Like, I actually could not have said it better myself. And I feel like that's what I'm always That is what you're always saying. Like people being obsessed with hating influencers, it's like, sure, we could hate any group of people. You could say influencers, yes, they do do X, by and Z. But this obsession with like the word of influencer, even becoming like having like a derogatory, well, it's like you would not come up.
Starting point is 00:50:26 There would not be that sort of stereotype. If there was a new job that a lot of men were doing, they don't say it really about streamers. Even though streamers is all men. Like, it's so true. Like the way that we demonize influencer culture like so heavily and it's become like so mainstream, so much so that this person probably thought nothing of putting. up this sign. It's because it's a female dominated space. It's a space where literally the
Starting point is 00:50:47 only space where women make more money than men. Like it's just absurd. I'm always fucking saying that. So like for her to just, like, literally it's such a sleigh. I wouldn't change one word. It's like, that statement, that sign is dumb for a lot of reasons because one, it definitely is like a little bit of a nudge to Paige Lorenz who was like one of the
Starting point is 00:51:05 premier Nantucket implementers now. And I think that like a lot of people come to the island for her and her store every day has a line around the corner. Which is like, you know, for a small town, it's like kind of annoying. You know, Even in the Hamptons, they hate when, like, things go viral because it makes it, like, loud and busy and traffic and congested. But she's, like, contributing to the local economy. And she, like, I could see why she maybe thought this was about her. But even if it's not, it's such a derogatory.
Starting point is 00:51:26 She's also just, like, standing up for women. I guess, like, I can't go to the store. Yeah, no, it's just like, I guess I can't go to the store. Yeah. I'm an influencer. And I just feel like, in general. I can't go to the store. So she's standing up for me.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Yeah. So that I could go. Yeah. But in general, if you have a store or a business and you have a sign that says no blank about a group of human beings unless it says like no rapists right you're wrong yeah no unless it says like no human beings a group of human beings it's discrimination it's just discrimination it's crazy to be like not allowed to where because of your job like it's discrimination so unless it says no criminals yeah no influencers and what's funny is that like before page like people were really like praising
Starting point is 00:52:07 this like they thought it was funny and it's like yeah like fucking ruins our culture and it's like we need to look inward as to why we think like first of all this is a totally acceptable thing to say. I can't think I can't go to this store. I know. And you don't even want to go to the store. I'm going to dairy boy. Especially because what she's saying is like it's craft store and craft is like so feet feminine and it's like so is like so is influencer culture. Like there are I think a lot of girls' dreams these days is to like grow up and become an influencer and it's just like it's so lame. No and so like what's the intention here? Like you don't want people posting about your store and you don't want to get business for your store.
Starting point is 00:52:41 I think that it was like, you don't want to get your store too busy. You don't want people coming in, like, taking pictures. Maybe. Maybe people, like, come in a lot and take pictures and don't buy anything. Okay, but then they're promoting your store because they're an influencer. It's like, it was good to have people in your store. No, it's like, say I went into a store and I didn't buy something, but I took a picture of something cute and I posted. And I'm an influencer.
Starting point is 00:52:58 And I'm an influencer and I tag this business. I didn't buy anything, but I might like actually generate some business for you. Of course. But we don't want that. We don't want business. Unless you're stealing, there's like literally no bad downside to having someone in your store. Like, what about no thieves? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:10 That would be good. And it was so lame. Unless they have a lot of other signs and like this is out of context where they say like no rapist, no criminals, no thieves, no influence. But then you're grouping us now. You know, why we're talking about rapists and influencers? Just me. I'm the only one. It's just so, it's so lame.
Starting point is 00:53:29 Yeah. And so this is such as personally, I think, very much a sleigh from Paige and like an easy kill shot. Agreed. I loved it. Stupid idiots. Yeah, agreed. Women hating. Women haters.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Yeah. And she just. comes off like so classy and like and like she's saving the people of nantecate. No and she didn't like from this mean store. She didn't say anything mean. She just like laid out straight facts. It was a perfect response. Not a win.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Um, and she's just like saving the small local influencers. Obsessed. Like me. Yeah. Are you ready for our fourth story? If it's our fourth story that's brought to you by Got to Be. Lock your look in with the travel friendly got to be waxed. I did lock my look in today.
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Starting point is 00:59:43 Thank you, retailers nationwide. You're welcome. Our fourth story, Timothy Shalomey's mom shares support for Chris Jenner after the passing of her mother, MJ. I saw this beautiful statement. So Chris Jenner shared a carousel of images for MJ's 92nd, heavenly birthday yesterday.
Starting point is 01:00:02 You know, happy birthday. To MJ, she said, I love you. It was just like a beautiful tribute of photos. And a comment was left by Nicole Flendor. Timothy and Paulette's, what's name? Pauline Shalame. Paulette's mother, Nicole Flender commented, so happy I got to know her.
Starting point is 01:00:23 So what you're saying is that Kylie's boyfriend's mom met her grandma. Spent time with her grandma. That's. And wants us to know it. That's, I don't think she wants us to know, I don't think she thought anybody would like see this. No, but it's like it was a significant enough, you know, just a casual, I think she thought people would see it, but it was like, that's just the machinum nature. That's really crazy. Like meeting your, that's just like how and mesh they are.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Yeah. And it's like, yeah, I'm sure the families have met and everything, but the fact that like they're sharing it, that she's commenting in support of every. Like, it's just at another level. Yeah, this is really crazy. Yeah. When are they getting married? Or maybe they'll just like skip the whole like formal marriage. thing. And they're like in a, they're in a partnership, very curt and golden. But I do think maybe
Starting point is 01:01:07 she might be like a little influenced by Taylor and be like, well, if Taylor Swift can get married, a fellow billionaire, then why not me? It's true. I do think like becoming a billionaire is obviously amazing. And you just assume that you can't get married. Right. I think you think that there are certain things that just you can no longer do. Mm-hmm. That's not the case. Yeah, like with an ironclad pre-up. Mm-hmm. Why not? Or like, who says you have to get legally married? Like, you can have a marriage, like a ceremony and like, you know, religious. But, like, just not legally, like, bound. Yeah, I feel like that's actually, like, a good call for, like, celebrities.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Yeah. No, we're definitely, like, trending that way. Yeah. Even though a lot of celebrities, like, well, some people do it, like, you know, just to, like, make waves, like, make news. They get engaged, like, random people. It is, like, a good way to get press. Yeah, we'll talk about it. Of course.
Starting point is 01:01:56 We'll talk about anything. Well, no. It depends on the day. Depends on the person. No, and, like, what else is going on that day. Right, right. But if you gave them each during the summer, like, we'll probably... There's a high likelihood that we have to talk about it.
Starting point is 01:02:07 We'll probably mention it, yeah. This is so crazy. Like, that's family. That's family. That's what you and your family of course. And, of course, like Nicole and Chris seem to be tight, close, that they come in on each other's things. Right. So it's just a good sign for our faves.
Starting point is 01:02:23 It is. It's been, how many, what, three years now? More. Yeah, like, next U.S. Open. Remember the first photo of them, like, that aerial shot? And Pauline and Chalamey and Smoky's a cigarette. But then there was also the first. like tennis match they went to, which was like a major watershed moment.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Tennis match. Yeah, I think it was the U.S. Open. Together they went? Yeah. Well, then they went to the U.S. Open again and they were like with friends and, you know, she was just being her fun, flirty self. But like the first photos of them.
Starting point is 01:02:49 Photos. No, I remember the first photo was that aerial blurry. But like the first time they like went out together. It was when were Kylie Jenner and Timothy Shalameh spotted together first? So it's first seen in the same place, Jan 2023, which was Paris. fashion week, which is like three and a half years. They were first photographed together June 1st, 2020.
Starting point is 01:03:16 Is that the barbecue and the cigarettes? The photos were grainy, but confirmed they were seeing each other, yeah. Okay. And then they first publicly went out together. And then September 5th, they're unmistakable at Beyonce's Renaissance concert. Oh. Yeah, interesting. Very beautiful.
Starting point is 01:03:33 Mm-hmm. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? I am. It's actually some major sports news. Really? Yeah. LeBron is going to the 76ers. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Actually, I can't believe because we haven't done a show in so long. that we haven't spoken about this, but obviously, like, I'm really into basketball. Everyone's talking about it. Our dinner table was talking about it. We were talking about it a lot. Well, first of all, like, I'm talking about it as obviously like the world's biggest Knicks fan.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Like, how does this affect us? Because, you know, every, pretty much every year in the playoffs, we have to be the- 76ers during the same conference. You can't get to the championships and them get to the championships. Right. And we're both, like, usually, like, in the last couple of years,
Starting point is 01:04:06 like pretty good. So we always end up playing each other. It's like the last three years in a row. We did beat them quite easily this year. this is like an obstacle for us. I do think like one man doesn't make a team. I think his point is that he does make a team. I think that's what he's going to prove.
Starting point is 01:04:21 It's very Tom Brady and the Buccaneers. It is. I can win a championship anywhere. He's done it before in his career. But I just want to say he just spent a couple of years at the Lakers like making no impact. So maybe one man doesn't make a team. But I feel like he's decided that this is his mission now.
Starting point is 01:04:37 I think maybe when he went to the Lakers he wanted like a team and camaraderie and like teamwork makes the dream work. I think he went to the Lakers because he said whoever takes my son can get me also. Well, that too. And the Lakers were like, all right, we'll take this rando if we get LeBron. It was like a great trade. Now we were wondering is Brony, which is the name of his son, which I'm obsessed with, is he also going to the Philadelphia?
Starting point is 01:04:58 He's not. His contract was confirmed, renewed, and the next day LeBron left. So we got his son a job, which we love, committed father. Yeah. And now he's off to Philly. I think he's like a very polarizing figure in the basketball community. like you either like love him or hate him. I don't really like I don't hate him.
Starting point is 01:05:14 I have no problem with him. He's never like been. He's never like, hurt you. Like obviously though like Philly like it's like a big rival of New York. So like being loyal to my husband like obviously like this kind of sucks for us. Yeah. But I think it makes things interesting.
Starting point is 01:05:29 And I do think he put out like a series of statements saying he really thought he was going to retire like he thought his last game was his last game. Over the last few like weeks he had no clue what. he was going to do and he took some time to think and he was actually able to just like do that and be sort of like a jobless loser for a while. And I enjoyed it. It gave him the clarity. For sure
Starting point is 01:05:50 it's that. Like athletes can't retire. They don't know what to do with themselves. But it made him realize I still want to sacrifice. I still want to work. I still want to grind. I still want to compete to win and to have a chance at the feeling of winning another championship. I believe I can make the Philadelphia 76ers is a championship team and I'm so excited to energize
Starting point is 01:06:06 a new fan base and start this incredible journey one last time. So I feel like he took a look at all the teams because anyone would have taken him and it's not about money. So I think he looked at two years, eight million dollars when he just made like $53 million. It's not about that. I think he looked at all the teams and said who has like, who just needs me? Who has everything else good but like they need me? And he must have like run the numbers very like money ball Jonah Hill and like figured out where he mathematically fits in and like it was Philly.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Yeah. Because like they are like a decent team but they're not like amazing. And I think that it's just like I can't in like recent modern times. I cannot remember the last time like a historic legendary player. like went out in a good way, you know, like obviously Tom Brady, atrocious. Maybe they all go like that. We just don't know. But like, how did Michael Jordan retire?
Starting point is 01:06:48 I don't know. I just assume it was good. I mean, he played some baseball. Yeah, like when he went back then to basketball. Did you see Michael Jordan was having lunch with David and Victoria? I did see David having lunch with Victoria. Yeah, literally. You know what I else?
Starting point is 01:06:59 I think, like, as much as LeBron, like, is the goat, I think, like, still, I feel like since we were kids, there's always this, like, conversation between, like, guys that are like, LeBron or Michael Jordan. Well, no, it's like, LeBron or Kobe. They say, like, who's the next. next Michael Jordan is it of our time. Was it LeBron or Kobe? And I think it was Kobe.
Starting point is 01:07:15 And then also like when you do pass away, you just become like legendary. Legendary. And so I think it's like pretty much decided that it's Kobe. I think he wants like more legend points. I think he wants another championship. Like for all this would do it. In his competition with Michael Jordan.
Starting point is 01:07:27 Yeah. And he's not done. I guess like he can still play. Yeah. I think he's like really good. I have no problem with it. Um, but you got to go far.
Starting point is 01:07:36 And it's like when he went to the heat just to like prove to the world that like wherever I go, we're winning a championship. Like, that's a great feeling. It was a sleigh. It was a sleigh. And I think he wants to do it again. And then he went to Cleveland. But Cleveland's where he came from.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Oh, right, right. So that was just exciting. That was a homecoming. Yeah, like, sorry I left you guys for like Miami, South Beach or like hot. Yeah. Hey, how y'all doing? Like him walking in. So like I do want this for him.
Starting point is 01:08:00 Like I would love to see someone just go out in a beautiful way. But unfortunately, it just messes like with my situation, which is obviously being like the world's biggest next fan. Yeah. But in order to be the best, you got to beat the best. It's true. I could see this like, this is Jay. Like, I feel like Jalen could hear this and like love it.
Starting point is 01:08:16 Because now it's like you're going to play them along. He gets to prove that he's better than LeBron. That's what this. Everyone said he's too short. Everyone said he's do this. He's do that. Nepo, that's what everyone says about him. And then he proved everyone wrong.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Which is why like obviously the Knicks winning was so great for so many reasons. But that storyline of like him proving everyone wrong was so great. And it's like, yeah. David and Goliath. Yeah. Yeah. So I think it's good. I think when you're at that level, like, yeah, you want a chance to beat LeBron.
Starting point is 01:08:38 Yeah, right. He's LeBron. Until he's not, you know? Like, Tom Brady, like, well, it's Tom Brady, but then he's like... But he's still Tom Brady, like, six championships. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And history will remember him fondly. Just, you know, the last couple of years happened to him.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Yeah. But, like, we'll move on one day. So huge news for the Philly community. Yeah, I'm sure they're excited. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. That's cool. I have to chat with Taylor Johnny.
Starting point is 01:09:00 I wonder what she thinks about that. Yeah. I think a lot of people, like, Dave Pointery who's like a big... Philly? Oh no, Boston. Whatever. Like, people also hate LeBron. So it's like, what do you do when like you, because if you're a Philly fan, like you hate LeBron.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Like he's been your op for, then he's coming to your team. Oh, I think you. You just love? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. He chose you. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Must you feel good. Yeah. Well, um, two more months till preseason against. Like I'm such a sports fan. Are you going to follow the whole season? Honestly, yeah. Like I had such a good time. Do you like basketball more than football?
Starting point is 01:09:36 That's a really good question. I realize now that it's not whether I like a sport better than another sport. It's like, do I give a shit? It's like when I'm watching basketball, that means nothing to me. Like, I'm bored to tears. Like when I'm watching my close personal friend Kyle Eusecheck, like, obviously I'm excited, you know? So it's just about like how I'm personally invested. Got it.
Starting point is 01:09:54 But also like basketball's always at night, you know, and just gets late. Yeah, that actually is true. That is very true. So I like football. Football's longer. Like it's a long game thing. Yeah. But it's just like, I, it's just like, I.
Starting point is 01:10:07 the visuals. I like the colors better, like the green field. But it's like if you ever watch football, it's like three seconds of play and then like timeouts, commercials, panning to the pre-made package. Like, it's not a lot of actual game watching. But maybe that's what's good. Maybe. Okay. Well, that's your show. Well, that's your show. I feel like we covered, you know, a lot. A lot of sports. We covered, yeah, a lot of sports. That's our show, you guys. Thank you so much for listening. to our show the best
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