The Toast - The Super Bowl Sequel: Tuesday, February 10th, 2026

Episode Date: February 10, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:09 It's Jackson, Claude and every show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, Swirley. It's the Toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Tuesday that for me feels like a Monday because, boy, do I have a lot to do today. Turty went MIA yesterday. Apologies, something came up. But I'm here and I'm ready to discuss. I'm ready to show up for my people. We are excited to have you. It was such a treat having trout. Treats with trout was yesterday. That should have an alternative title.
Starting point is 00:00:42 But we had to put Super Bowl in the title because it was the big day after the big game. And today's the second big day after the big game because we're going to get Super Bowl turdys version today. Yeah. Sorry if it's repetitive, but like I have a job to do. I think that people would still like to hear my thoughts on everything. Yeah, people are still talking about. It's still in the news cycle. But don't you feel like it has sort of faded quicker than other Super Bowls? This was very like there actually were a couple of like big things like bad bunny and everything.
Starting point is 00:01:04 But in terms of like buzziness, I feel like everybody like went home quickly. I agree. The game, as I've come to learn, this. Seahawks put up a very strong defense, wherein not a lot of points could be scored. And when points aren't scored, like, it's not that exciting for like a P-brained viewer like myself, who just wants to see touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:01:22 People catching. Yeah, and points and cheering. You know, it was a good game in terms of football, but it wasn't the funnest game. It wasn't the most entertaining by any stretch of the imagination. So today's episode has a lot. We've got Dear Toasters, of course, because it's a Tuesday, we never leave the DTQ hanging. We've got Turtees version, Celebrity, Super Bowl Recap.
Starting point is 00:01:41 And we've got Jackson Claude. just being themselves, which is such a beautiful thing to be able to be authentically represented in modern media. Being part delicious, Stephanitious. Okay. So I saw something that I've been, I actually was like, I wrote it down because I wanted to talk about on the show and not tell you in person. So we were talking a lot about the patriarchy last week.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Okay. And I saw this kind of beautiful theory on the patriarchy that I feel like we need to discuss, okay? Patriarchy is sort of, it's sort of this like Darwinistic, evolutionary tactic by men. Men are clearly the subpar gender. And the only way for them to ensure their survival is to instill these sort of toxic systems like the patriarchy. Because if we didn't live in this like very toxic male dominated system, like we would have
Starting point is 00:02:28 found, we are smarter, we are responsible for like birthing. We would have found a way to do it all without the men. and they are ensuring their own survival by installing these toxic systems. Let me ask you something. And I'm not saying men are smarter than women or women are smarter than men. I think we both have our great qualities
Starting point is 00:02:46 and we serve different purposes. But if men were so much dumber than women, how could they pull that over on us? I don't think that there's so much. No, but if they're inferior to women, how could they pull that over on us? Their brute strength. That is what they have on us.
Starting point is 00:03:00 And like, you know, back in the day. So not so inferior. Right. Back in medieval times when they could use that brute strength, I think that their physical strength, which, yes, we all have our, you know, strengths, so to speak. And so men's, yes, they are stronger than women in a physical set. So they used their physical superiority to dominate us intellectually, societally, to keep us down. Financially. Absolutely. Very interesting. I thought it was a really good take. For me, I feel like the patriarchy, like, had its moment and wasn't, like, necessary, like, men to go out, like, up until, because up until, like, modern advancements in menstrual health,
Starting point is 00:03:42 like, first of all, pads, tampons. Like, if you didn't have those things, how can you go out into the, like, and slay? How can you slay all day? It's so true. When was the pad invented? And, well, people could have used, like, you know, cloth. When was the sanitary nap? can formally invent it. But no, I think they used cloth, reusable cloth, but I really think the tampon opened up a lot of doors for a woman. You know, because if you're like bleeding into a cloth all day, like you don't feel like going and slaying.
Starting point is 00:04:13 No, and not only do you not feel like it, like you are limiting. You have a pass. Yeah, right. And you have cramps. Like you're just not, like so good man, go. But now we have might all. We have, you know, the flow PMA cup. The flow PMS company said I was advert.
Starting point is 00:04:29 advertising yesterday. Like we have all of these things that allow us to be out of the house 28 to 31 days a month. For better and for worse. It's true. So I think it's really the advancements in women's health. And that's why we should constantly be funding women's health research. 1,000 percent.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I love that. So, yeah, that was the thing that I saw that I wanted to talk to you about. I just not to be like Scott Galloway. I don't want, and not to make it serious, when you were making it lighthearted, but it's like men aren't so much dumber than women. Like we have different, like I hate to be those man-hated women who are like, men are dumb.
Starting point is 00:05:06 I don't, I just want to say I didn't say that they were dumb. I think you did. They provide value as well. And of course, and I think we feel some type of way because as woman, we've been put down, you know, so we feel like you have to be like,
Starting point is 00:05:20 well, you're ugly and stupid. Yeah, I think you're like projecting. I never said that they were dumb. I feel like you, I feel like that's what you led with. I feel like that was your opening remark. I would love to just sit back and roll the tape. Me too.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Did I say that? Oh, and we have a man here. How did that make you feel? Not good. I didn't say it. He agrees. Obviously, the men are on my side, Scott Calloway. I'm scared of you.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Good. It's working. I agree. I'm not one of those like man hating women either. And that's not at all what I was saying at all. I was kind of commending them for that sleigh of an evolutionary tactic, keeping us down to keep themselves up. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:58 So I just think we need to all work together. I mean, we need to stop pitting man against woman. And I've been saying that, you know. Oh, speaking of man against women, do we have a story about Utah? Of course. Okay, okay, okay, so I won't talk about it. Of course.
Starting point is 00:06:08 I watch so much Olympics this weekend. If it wasn't for the Super Bowl, like that's the number one story of the day. There's so many, like, there were so many sports going on this weekend. Waste management? Like, who cares? Waste management. Full swing. Who won?
Starting point is 00:06:20 I don't know, but that's where Travis was. So that was like big news. But then he was with the chain smokers at waste management? Chain Smokers was... Definitely Super Bowl. He has a jet. I thought I saw him on the sidelines of the Super Bowl. On the sidelines?
Starting point is 00:06:33 I don't know. Oh, I think I saw him in the beginning ceremony. Yeah. No, but the waste management was like the day before. It's like three days. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think he was just sort of doing it all. I'm so excited to find out what happened at waste management next year on full swing.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Yeah. Too bad. We have to wait. Your recap of waste management, 2026 is coming next year. In 2020. Yeah. And then, of course, the Olympics,
Starting point is 00:06:52 which have just been bringing me so much joy. even though it's not the Summer Olympics, which are just so much better. They still have a lot of merit. I think a lot of people don't even watch the Winter Olympics. I watch all. And yes, summer is better. But winter has a lot going on. I forget, you know, of course, the Utah of it all.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Figure skating, which isn't such a joy. I love that couple. I like that guy. Do you see his gold? Of course, I know that guy. And it's funny because, like, he gets so much. He's the Quad God. The Quad God, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:19 His name is like Iliam, Milan. Milano. Yeah. And I was watching. James performance, he's obviously very talented. And then, like, halfway through, I don't know why he just decides to, like, put his whole Iliosi into it. And he just, like, became insane.
Starting point is 00:07:33 And he's, like, throwing extra tricks, like, doing more swivels than they said that he was about to do. Like, he just popped off. Yeah. And he won gold. So what I'm learning watching the Olympics is, like, figure skating is just not this sort of one size fits all. And I know figure skating from Ice Princess, of course, and triple axle, you know, and her using
Starting point is 00:07:49 geometry. Jumping shrimp. Right. Her using geometry to figure out how to jump perfectly. Brilliant. But there's so many other elements. And it's like most of the things that I'm watching are not even like triple axle. It's like ice dancing. There's freestyle. So Ilya is like doing like men's ice dancing and it's like kind of crazy looking. Same with the Bates and Gates. Like last night, that couple who everybody loves who's married, they did their ice dancing routine
Starting point is 00:08:15 to a Lenny Kravitz mix. Oh my God. It was amazing. And they got so robbed in their score. And so like his tricks like the quad guy, like he's not doing your typical. ice princess like tricks. Yeah, no, he's like making up. Yeah. Ilya's own tricks. And I'm living for, it's crazy how differently I think of Johnny Weir and Tara Lipinski in the Traders Mansion versus, you know, the Milano Cortina, okay? Melano Cortina. In Milano Cortina, they are slang. You see your T.J. Max commercial? No. Tara did this, like, fabulous commercial. To me, they're like so unimpressive in Traders.
Starting point is 00:08:48 And I'm like, who are these people? I feel like I'm really learning about them as athletes, as people in their commentary. I think that was the point. They crushed. Like, they really did not do a good job of showing us who they are in traitors. I'm doing, I'm putting in my own time and research in, in the, um, Cortina. I don't think we were open, you know? Even if they showed us, I would say, why are you showing us so much?
Starting point is 00:09:08 Except for Tara, like, she's a cutie. But, like, no, no, Jackie, I'm telling you, like, and their friendship is so real. Like, every time they talk about their friendship on, I'm cracking up. I'm like, okay. They are best friends for life. It's so cute. I saw such a funny tweet that was like, you think they're going to be able to find figure out rob's the traitor they can't even figure out that the two figure skaters are
Starting point is 00:09:27 best friends they've noticed together for 100 years it's so true they're like this very niche sport they do broadcasting together and no one like knows their best friend this is also like day five of me asking peacock to release the colton files like where is that video of colton finding out that rob is the traitor because i know he's going to be like oh i knew it like no you fucking no you fucking didn't i check every day like i'm so excited i checked last night what's today Tuesday They owe it to us. It's great. And I know that they wait like a little bit for spoilers,
Starting point is 00:09:58 which I appreciate them like looking out for their community traders. No. No. Okay. Sad. I'm posted in 16 hours. Like I'm twitching. What were we talking about?
Starting point is 00:10:13 Oh, the Olympics. Yeah. So it's been fabulous. We will talk about Utah's big night last night. Yeah, this is a great day. Yeah. Lots to do. Should we get into it?
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Starting point is 00:14:55 Thank you, ASPCA, Pat all the insurance for sponsoring today's episode. Thank you, Tertt. A pleasure. Our first story, Super Bowl recap part two turdies version, Turtees here. Let's get into it. The game, the halftime show, the commercials, the celebrities. What are your thoughts? So I did feel like overall, the super, I feel like, yes, some super Bowers are busier than others.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Of course, Taylor and Travis, like in years past, I think there's been so many cultural elements. Also, it depends on the location, too. thousand percent like Vegas tying into the game like outside of the game that it lifts the whole thing up I just feel like this year was a little lackluster in its overall glamorousness and buzziness like I said I feel like people are already moved on where I think in years past we've been talking about it like for days and days and of course there were like big moments that we're going to talk about but overall I would say a little underwhelming do you agree yeah the teams in the game you know I think the couple celebrity connections are like Cardi B and yeah and they're like barely together I don't know just the celebrity. Everybody's ever there. Like, I know Kim was there with her man. And like, no one cares. Like, yeah. And then it just felt like a little. No, it's like there's a picture of them kissing and like no one, everyone thinks it's AI. I believe it is AI.
Starting point is 00:16:00 So like, they're right for that for saying that. But like, who knows? And if I hope it's a AI. It's such a weird picture. Yeah. I agree. But the celebs did all go. They did.
Starting point is 00:16:11 They were in the halftime show. Let's talk about Bad Bunny. What did you think? Okay. So didn't understand a word. Didn't know a single song. I understand a lot of it. I speak Spanish.
Starting point is 00:16:20 I know you speak Espaniol. Espanol, those two things withstanding, you know what? I really enjoyed it. I thought it was like so colorful. And, you know, I think we talk a lot in music about how like, you know, dark is cool and, and like darkness and depression. It's just like, ugh, like that Billy Eilish aesthetic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:37 And this was just like celebrating family and love. There was a wedding and it was like that little kid. Like it was very, and I do think that's very, you know, the Latin culture celebrates like, that's what I'm always saying, you know, food faith family. And it was that. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I actually really enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:16:52 And the mayor photo to feed a cellola. Like, I really, I wish I knew, like, three songs. That would have made it a little bit more fun for me. But as a viewer, I was entertained thoroughly. I liked to the set, like, it was all very, I don't know, like, bright. Yeah. And that, like, I'm always looking for positive, joyful things. And that was extremely positive and joyful.
Starting point is 00:17:12 I imagine if you knew the music, like, it was amazing. And, no, I thought he did exactly what he was supposed to do. And what he was hired to do. Yeah. Like it was, it was really, it was fun. Oh, and then like not Alex Errol being in the Casita. Like I was shook, not a, not a Gina Christianitator's Casita, okay? I was shook.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Like, so the concept of like there being other people, like, you know, we always are thinking like who's he's going to bring out. I wasn't thinking he was going to be the Casita, you know, Jessica Alba, Cardi B. Now, of course, Jessica Alba is of Latin descent. Cardi B is our Dominican queen. So I wasn't expecting Alex Earl all is that to say. But she is Miami. Like she does really represent Miami. Like Dave Grutman was there too.
Starting point is 00:17:54 He's Jewish. Like not. But I think they represent Miami really well. And I think Bad Bunny's very, like a lot of his fans and community members come from Miami. So I understood it. I was really shook to see her there. And I thought she did a really good job. It had the potential to be awkward.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Like you're basically just standing there dancing. Yeah. And if you've ever been to the Super Bowl, like if you're in the stadium, like you actually don't really hear a lot. It's produced for television. So I can't imagine she was hearing a song super well or like the beat super well. I thought she really played it off. It looks like a lot of the like. background characters had ears in. Oh, interesting monitors. Yeah. Yeah. So maybe that they could hear.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Interesting. I have like kind of a hot take. About Lady Gaga. Yeah. Did you watch the toast yesterday? I don't think that you did. I didn't. I'm sorry. Because I caught up with stuff yesterday. No, no, no. I don't think that you did because it's so funny. Like what you're saying is exactly what I said. Okay. So what you're about to say is also what I said. So I don't want to say like she ruined it by any, because whatever Gaga's around. And die with a smile, the number one song of the year. And die with a smile, the number one song of the year. And I'm. And die with a smile. And the number one song of the year. And. I fucking loved her outfit too. Like she showed up, she knew the vibes, and she slayed the house down, hair, glam, everything. It was such a bad arrangement of the song. I actually liked the music. They were giving it like that sort of mariachi Latin, but she didn't change. Mariachi.
Starting point is 00:19:09 I'm going to hang out with you too much. Sorry, Mariace. They gave it that very Latin flair, which I love. Yeah, it was a great idea. It was. And then she started singing just like the regular old vocals. And I was shook. As I said yesterday, it was a mashup that did not mesh.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Yes, it was, it should have been a mesh up, but it was a mess up. It was like that was playing while that was playing. It was like someone turned the music off. I'm trying to think of, because it was also a time recently where maybe this happens a lot, where the performer didn't sing with the guest. They just sort of gave the floor to the guest. It did feel weird and random. I'm not mad.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Saying their own song that has nothing to do with the performer. Yeah, like it was so fucking random. And I'm sure Bruno's watching that. Like, what about... They definitely invited Bruno. What about me? Yeah, he was somebody said on Twitter, like, so mad, but chained to the basement of the casino that he owes money too. I saw that on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:20:06 And his Super Bowl is not paid, so he couldn't go. Right. Only paid, he only gets out of his cage for paid affairs. So, I... Bruno, Brut, too. Like, Lady Gaga, like, actually cannot do anything wrong in my essence. No, and she didn't do anything wrong. She did.
Starting point is 00:20:20 She also did the job that she was paid there to do. but like the overall direction of her part felt really random. It felt misdirected. Yeah. I agree. And I love for effort. I love Ricky Martin. A for effort.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Great idea. Yeah. Bad execution still enjoyed. Never going to complain about Gaga. I'm trying to think of what they could have done better. And like Lady Gaga sings in German. Like she sings in, she would have learned a Spanish song.
Starting point is 00:20:42 No, no, no. I like Die with a Smile Marieti edition. I do. Do it right. No, because it also doesn't involve bad bunny. Like, oh, that's okay. They could have sung like a Selena song. you know?
Starting point is 00:20:52 No, or they could have done a Lady Gaga song that would mesh better with Marriachi. Well, of course, yes. Yeah. It was just weird. I thought, like, Ricky Martin was a, not obvious, actually, because I wouldn't have guessed him, but like a good person to bring out.
Starting point is 00:21:07 I like when people bring people out. I think a lot of times people feel, like, too proud. Like, they have to do it themselves. Like, it's fine. Like, it's good. I like it both ways. Yeah. I like sometimes when somebody, like when Lady Gaga did it herself.
Starting point is 00:21:18 I loved that. Like, the weekend should have brought someone out, you know? Yeah. It depends. Yeah. So I enjoyed it. I know it was like this big, like what will it be? And you know what?
Starting point is 00:21:28 It was exactly what I think his whole vibe is. And I enjoyed it. I do like I am personally, and this is just like a selfish thing, I'm ready for a pop girly. It has been, we had Rihanna. Ever since Jay Z took over for Apple music, he really widened. It used to be, I feel like back to back. Like the pop girlies were holding it down.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Even Bruno Mars. So when Jay Z took over, like he expanded it quite a bit and just my own selfish. Like I'm ready for a pop. girlie or a country, a country star. So if J.C.'s listening, that's just what one person, turning wants, and I would appreciate, you know, that. But beyond that, it was kind of a boring game. It's also my first Super Bowl, like, being a parent, definitely less fun.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Yeah, that's what, that was the big theme yesterday. Like, we were like, oh, the anthem, you mean during bath time? Yeah, we had to pause because I was doing bath time. We have to talk about the anthem. We have to talk about Charlie Puth. Do you have something to say? I was wrong. And it's so funny because like some of the hate that I get is like Turney never admits
Starting point is 00:22:25 but she's wrong. Mostly when it comes to like the Baldoni lively case and I'm seriously not wrong. We don't have time for that today. History will be on my side. Jackie's like shut the fuck up. We can't take any more hate. No, I'm saying like where the clock is running. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:38 It's a 20 minute dive. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Dive into the whole. All that to say like I'm always happy to admit when I'm wrong and I had very low expectations of Charlie Puth and I thought he did such an amazing job paying honor to our country, but to also like the greats before him. And he had posted a TikTok about how like Whitney Houston's version is like the greatest. Like the pressure to do the anthem when this one exists.
Starting point is 00:23:00 And then he also shared that his arrangement like did sample her arrangement. And he really like just tried to do the whole thing with such respect for everyone and everything. So I saw him being accused of like using auto tune because like his voice is so perfect. But that's just his thing. And I feel like it was a great night for Charlie Puth. It was like also a very great night for Taylor Swift because she is. right like Charlie Puth should be a bigger artist. It was so impressive for me if you want me to like something put a gospel choir in there like I will be shaking my titty's like take me to church mama
Starting point is 00:23:31 he had all the elements of it. He also played an instrument live so he is being compared to Chris Stapleton who recently did it vocally it's hard enough to focus on the voice let alone the piano or the whatever in front of you and then some people do too much they're like I want to give the anthem I they're trying to prove like they're trying to prove that they can sing and play and it's like just do it good. We don't care what you're having to prove to us. He didn't look nervous. His voice didn't shake.
Starting point is 00:23:56 But it felt like he understood the magnitude. Yes, that's what I mean. Like there was so much respect for everyone and everything in the performance. For him. For our founding fathers. It felt like there was respect for the country, for the flag. For the founding mothers, Whitney Houston. For our troops.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Yes, everything. I had chills. He really, he understood all. The assignment. Yeah. I thought Coco Jones was incredible. I can tell she was really nervous. So like I felt like her voice had a little bit of a tremble to it.
Starting point is 00:24:19 in the beginning. I was not familiar with her game, like vocally, insane. Like a concert ever before. Yeah, Green Day. Green Day. Ben was doing bath time, so he was, like, I don't even know. We decided to not tell him that it happened. I don't think he knows. I don't think he didn't know that was happening. Because if he knew that he missed it, we'd have to go back and watch it again. And we're like, if he never knew that this happened, like, he wouldn't be upset that he missed it. Yeah. Let's just move forward. And then they had like all the players like, you know, standing around. It was like a little awkward. But it was fun. It was fresh. It was different. What else can I tell you?
Starting point is 00:24:54 The commercials, like, maybe I'm just like a jaded consumer. Like, they did not do it for me in the way that I think in years past, I was like making people be quiet during the commercials. Right. Like my game is on. Yeah. It's very hard to stand out. I think these days and now people do pre-commercial. And we saw the fanatics one. That's still the best one, I think.
Starting point is 00:25:14 I love the Pepsi one. Oh, yeah, the Pepsi Zero Sugar one. Yes. And, you know, this Super Bowl recap is brought to you by Pepsi Zero Sugar. I loved their commercial. First of all, it's nice to feel represented in modern media. And a fun fact about me that a lot of people don't know is I prefer Pepsi. I actually really do.
Starting point is 00:25:35 And I think that we get so bogged down by labels in this country. In society. In society. And we're kind of label obsessed. And I love... What about the product? What about quality? What about taste?
Starting point is 00:25:50 And I love to just. see a commercial taking that conversation seriously. And I really related to that cola-loving bear in the commercial, sort of working through those feelings. I went through that process. He's a little delayed. I went through that process years ago. I had been making Pepsi Zero Sugar and, you know, the Pepsi brand. I had been making them cool for years. But it was nice to see my personal experience being represented on the world's stage. On the big screen. You experienced the Pepsi paradox for yourself years ago years ago when everything is taken out labels brands and you're looking at and tasting two products you're going Pepsi zero sugar and we've always said that you know we've always said
Starting point is 00:26:34 quality over you know image and we like I get it you know I've been in a place where I've become obsessed with what people think of me and the world's perception and much like that bear when you have that sort of come to life moment it can be devastating at first and then you're unstoppable. Your world opens up. So during the 2025 revival of the Pepsi challenge, did you guys, you might not know this. Sixty-six percent of people said that they preferred the taste of Pepsi zero sugar over Coca-Cola zero sugar. Pepsi won 100 percent of markets in the 2025 Pepsi Challenge. Yes, even Atlanta. Enter the Pepsi paradox. I have chills just talking about it. It's so shocking. And I am a certified Pepsi girl and I feel like when people label you, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:18 like diet soda. They never say Pepsi. No, and everyone wants to say like this one's better, that one's better, but there's nothing more truth-telling than a blind taste test. I highly recommend. I want everyone to kind of stop and think about what they think they know about these beverages and give Pepsi Zero Sugar a chance. You're going to be floored at the taste.
Starting point is 00:27:38 And much like the bear, like, I'm not, you don't have to do like a blind taste test and like start, I mean, you can and like film it for TikTok. But like you don't need to put a blindfold on. Try and leave everything you know. about these brands at the door. And I think that's kind of what we're always saying, right? About being open to changing your mind and not doing what you just think the world wants you to do or say. No, and not staying on the surface.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Not surface lyrics. I'm trying not to get emotional about the commercial, but it's so much deeper than that. You know what I mean? I think as you get older, I don't know. I think you care less about these sort of, I'm actually getting choked up. Labels, call me what you want. Yes, I love Pepsi Zero Sugar. I'm a Pepsi Zero Sugar loving bear.
Starting point is 00:28:24 That's who I am. It chills. That's why I wear these bears to represent Nicola Loving Bear who prefers Pepsi Zero Sugar. And it was actually quite emotional to seem to go through that journey, don't you think? And to be able to admit, maybe I've been wrong. And that's kind of a theme of today's episode, you know, and I said it just a few minutes ago. Like, I am not too big to admit when I've been wrong.
Starting point is 00:28:44 No, neither was he. And it was nice to see that represented on the world's largest stage. It was. I think that's a message like literally everyone could learn from. In all aspects of your life, but especially about what we're putting into our bodies. Yeah. Especially about tasting. Just because you've done something one way for so long, it's never too late to change.
Starting point is 00:29:02 And of course, I hate to make everything about myself, but I feel as though I must. But I think that's the point of a good commercial is to see yourself in it and make it about yourself. I feel vindicated, of course. I have been ahead of the curve the entire time. And I think a lot of people are now coming to this conclusion after seeing it on such a big stage. And it does feel kind of better. I'm better than everyone. Like I had this realization like actually 10 years ago.
Starting point is 00:29:30 I want to say when I was in college. And like we could say like turdy was right, which would sort of balance out when you said you were wrong earlier. Like now you're like the skills are evened. And it's again, not to make everything about myself. It does feel like people are confronting their life choices as a result of this commercial. And I confronted those choices years ago. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:50 You didn't need this push. Like you're bigger than everyone else, but it's good that other people are now seeing what you've already seen and tasting what you've already tasted. Highly recommend you trying Pepsi Zero Sugar. Do your own mini Pepsi challenge with your loved ones. Have those hard conversations. Have those hard conversations. And you will not regret it.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Don't let the label decide. Let your taste decide. That's really beautiful. and a message that I want to take into all aspects of daily life. And specifically the past five, of course. And specifically the fast five. Our next story. Oh, okay, we're done with the, let me just think, like, anything else about the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Anything else about the Super Bowl? Oh, Lix and Rade? Oh, we talked about it yesterday. I mean, we can't get a bigger Licks Rad fan. Than Olivia Asre. Then Olivia Hachry. Did you hear her? Of course.
Starting point is 00:30:36 She's so funny. Did you see the video, it came out today, him grabbing her tissue? No. Yeah, it was just like, it actually wasn't a grab. I want to say it was like a soft caress. It was quite lovely. Where is it? Dumois. She's the leading source.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Shout out to Dumas. I feel like Dumas went through kind of like a shakeup where people stopped trusting Dumas. During COVID, it was like the Bible. And then there were a couple of, and I just feel like she didn't know what to do with her platform. And now she is the leading news source on Alex Earl and Tom Brady. And I'm like happy for her to have found her new niche. Yeah. And personally, she's my go-to.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Like, I live for it. Yeah, I do see. I've actually noticed a change in Dumas. I feel like. It's not really like blind items anymore. No, it's more like a media site. I feel like they've hired. It's very boots on the ground.
Starting point is 00:31:20 People like this, it's like a. Just Jared. E news. Like, yeah. But it's very internet, which I think it's kind of smart. Everything's like packaged for virality. It's kind of brilliant. I think she's slaying, even though she's getting hate because she posted the allegedly
Starting point is 00:31:33 AI photo of Lewis Hamilton and Kim Kardashian kissing. And people are like, please do not post AI generate content. And she can't prove that it is AI and she can't prove that it is it. She posted this photo as AI. Oh, she did? Yeah, it's in the caption. Oh, okay. Well, that's that.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Yeah. So Alex Earl and Tambradia. He touched her, or she? That's really crazy. I mean, I'm sure they're doing crazier, but, like, that's really wild. It was crazy on the Super Bowl stage. They did, like, the Hall of Fame. Everybody came out of that photo booth with their jackets on.
Starting point is 00:32:04 And it was just crazy to see him there. And it's like, oh, that's Alex Earl's situation ship. Yeah. And they were both on the field. That's my girl right there. I just love her. Sleigh Mama. You think, so now you think they're.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Yeah, well, they both do live in Miami. Entangled? Even though she's been like exclusively in L.A. I hope she doesn't move. Well, she came back for Sally's birthday. Yes, of course. I don't think Tom was at the 25 hour affair. I hope not.
Starting point is 00:32:26 He cannot hang. I really hope, though, that she... Happy birthday, Sally. Happy birthday, Sally. Hope your party was amazing. I know that she has a place in L.A. And for Dents with the Stars, it was great. And it's good like to have a place there
Starting point is 00:32:37 because she probably has to go a lot for work. But I really hope she does not move to L.A. I think that would... There aren't a lot of things like she could do right now. that would derail her success and I'm not saying her moving to LA would but I don't think it would be good like I think what people love about her
Starting point is 00:32:50 is that she's just like that girl from Miami you know it's such a part of her image and so he lives in Miami so I think they've probably hung out between St. Bart's and now insane what the fuck do they talk about
Starting point is 00:33:02 maybe like as Olivia said like being goats yeah goatness Olivia's so funny Olivia's so funny I'm at a place where I've kind of accepted When I first saw them in St. Bartz, I was still in the shock phase of the whole thing. Now I'm in like a digesting.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Like, okay. I see you. Okay. I guess this is what we're doing. Yeah. I'm still in disbelief. Like, I actually don't believe it, even though allegedly he grabbed her tushy. But I do want to talk about some other goats.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Okay. If we may switch subjects. Please. To the big news of the day, utilierdom won gold at the Olympics. Jake Paul's fiance. She broke an Olympic speed skating record in Milano courts. Tina. Yesterday she came in first place in the women's 1,000 meter.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Jake posted a video of him. hysterically crying. Like when she crossed the finish line. And then when she saw that she won and she broke the record, like they're so emo. The black tier. It was giving Lauren Conrad. 100% because she always wears her iconic eye makeup.
Starting point is 00:34:03 And then she got it together for the podium. Oh, of course. No. And like, oh, good. This was one of like my homework moments. Like, I've been waiting. Yeah. When it comes to the Olympics.
Starting point is 00:34:14 things I want to see was her speed skate. Not only did she win gold, which was her goal, she set a new Olympic record. So it was just like an insane feat. And if you watch Paul American, you know that like a part of their story is like her personally sacrificing like so much, not being with her fiance and
Starting point is 00:34:30 training like for the sake of this goal. And even if she didn't get it like it would have been a valiant effort, but like the fact that she did makes it all so worth it. And now she can ride off in the sunset with Jake in peace, move to Puerto Rico, not always be like, chasing the Olympic dream because she's climbed the mountain. She's reached the summit and now she can move on. I also didn't realize how big of a deal she was in the Netherlands. Like she's kind of like a
Starting point is 00:34:56 Katie Ledecki. I was trying to think of like a similar athlete. She's so beloved and like the announcers on the live broadcast were saying like, you know, she's five million dollars. It was giving like so chughey. They were like she's five million dollars. And then they cut to the broadcast in Dutch and like how the commenters were screaming. Like she is this, like a Michael Phelps of her generation. And she's so beloved. The pride of her country. I didn't know that people speed skating is a huge sport.
Starting point is 00:35:24 To me, it's like so random. But in the Netherlands, it's like swimming for us or figure skating. So she is this enormous. I didn't realize. And they had this whole party for her. Did you see her like going on stage at this like Dutch party? It's been such a fabulous saga of events. I love her.
Starting point is 00:35:43 I think she was like my number one athlete in this Olympics of like who I am rooting for. Yeah. And she won gold. Like this is amazing. I wonder if she still has more races or this is it. I don't know. I saw her at the party and like it was giving it's over. Also her, like she's just also the best influencer.
Starting point is 00:36:02 She's like an Alonamara type. Different types of content. But you know, come with me. Here's what I'm meeting at the Olympic Village and I just live for it. Yeah. And so she flew private. She did what she had to do. I completely endorse her decision to fly private.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Also, they talked about in Paul American, how she's had like a bit of drama, like, going out on her own as an independent contractor. Like, she left the team that was training her because she wasn't, like, getting what she needed. And so, yeah, she's kind of like flying solo, literally, and she flew solo. And I'm fine with that. And it's actually amazing that she really speaks to her talent. And I feel like if she was sitting next to other people on the plane, she wouldn't have been able to win. Well, also, I've been watching a lot of speed skating. And it's low-key insane how they skate completely perpendicular.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Like, oh my God, my back could never. And so, yeah, she needs a big jet to stretch out on. Like, she's training half bent over the entire day. Yeah. Her back must kill her. Well, no, because she's doing it right. Yeah. It's been a wonderful way to end her, like, athletic career.
Starting point is 00:36:59 And we need season two of Paul American because we need to see the behind the scenes. Of course, I saw a camera. Like, they were. Well, they film everything. And then he wrote in his caption, like, you'll see it in the documentary. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if he makes a documentary about her. Oh, stop. I love her.
Starting point is 00:37:13 And I guess she's like moving to Puerto Rico. I know Jake Paul's like packing up her things while she's at the race. Like stop, I can't. It was really beautiful. It was. And it's just like, it's so impressive, you know? Yeah, it's so impressive. Congrats, Utah.
Starting point is 00:37:28 No, this is so major. Of the Neanderthals. Of the Neanderthal speed skating team. Our next story. First promo just dropped for Taylor Frankie Paul as the Bachelorette, wondering if she's worthy of love. So Taylor Frankie Paul is our next Bachelorette. They put out a teaser video set to look what you made me do.
Starting point is 00:37:47 She's like walking through a hallway and a red dress like with all like, you know, content of her throughout the years on the walls. And then she busts through the glass. And she's like, maybe I'll just be myself. And then she's wearing her cozies and her crocs. And that's what we have so far. The season premieres March 22nd. It did bring me back. Like there was a time when the Bachelor promo dropped.
Starting point is 00:38:08 And every year it was like it was a Super Bowl. Like a dress made out of flowers And then what song they were going to use It literally made songs I remember Fifth Harmony, that's my girl Like any song they chose Like was the song of the year Their impact at one point
Starting point is 00:38:21 It just reminded me this clip Like of how much has changed But like how big their impact was For like my young adult life It was giving like really scripted It was kind of weird I thought it was giving low budget I thought it was weird
Starting point is 00:38:33 Okay And I meant to be a hater And I was glad that it wound up being like The glam was the point of the glam was that It wasn't for her and she shut it off because when I was watching her in that dress I'm like, that dress is wearing her.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Like it wasn't a moment at all. I was like, this is not glamorous. And maybe the point was to be like, yeah, that because she's not comfortable, maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it just felt like low budget. And you know the whole thing was on a green screen. So she's just like walking around a green screen
Starting point is 00:38:58 and then they added all this shit. And I guess they're like playing into a storyline, which is her life. It's not a storyline, but like that, you know, she chooses these terrible people because it's sort of like a projection of how she used.
Starting point is 00:39:10 feels you know how she sees herself um and i don't know it didn't just give me a lot of confidence because i feel like when you go to the bachelor like you should be ready like you should have answered these questions no i i'm not feeling a lot of confidence in the actual like relationship that will come out of the show like i think it will be really entertaining i love her i just want to watch her but i agree like i don't know she's like ready to meet the one right all these in in past when i think of like the girls whose promos like stuck with me it's like you know they are so ready for this they know who they are they won't accept anything less and you know you're supposed to go on the bachelor journey when that self-discovery journey has ended and it feels like her self-discovery journey and her bachelor journey are
Starting point is 00:39:57 the same journey and that's never good they say you shouldn't do that like you can't love someone until you love yourself you can't find someone until you find yourself yeah so not to be like so deep but it was a weird one yeah and then the promo picture is like her busting out of of a Barbie box and it says like if you don't fit the mold break it with like a bunch of like things around her wait can we talk about i sent it to you i forget if it was new york magazine or new york because i actually get them confused i think it was new york new york magazine did this cover story let me just read it it was about how like Mormons are taking over popular culture i literally dm'd you because i was so shocked okay yeah so wow i dm you a lot just give me two seconds yeah
Starting point is 00:40:34 we spend a lot of content back and forth oh maybe i put it in text or yeah Yeah, I think it's in our text. Okay. So it was New York Magazine and it was, one, two, three, four, seven Mormon women. And it says, ding dong, do you have a moment to talk about how Mormons conquered pop culture, a report from Utah? So on the cover is Taylor Frankie Paul, Whitney La Javitt and Jesse Draper from the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City Mormon sex lives, which are, of course, three Mormon women. And then there's also Whitney Carson representing how so many of the dance pros on Dancing with the Stars train in Utah and are Mormon. Hannah Neely, of course, ballerina farm, Heather Gay, Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. And then in the back corner, Rach Parsel, who is a fixture here.
Starting point is 00:41:16 We talk about her all the time. She is one of the real OG Mommy Mormon YouTube bloggers. When we think of like Mommy Mormon, she is the blueprint. Everybody copies her. She's got the big house. She's got the 100 kids. Like she's got, she is that girl. Now the weird thing and why I sent it to Jackie is because we've got Taylor Frankie
Starting point is 00:41:31 Paul. Run and center and everyone else sort of like fans out. Yeah. And it's interesting because a lot of, you know, being a public figure and just like being a woman is, you know, we notice when you look different. The picture of Heather Gay is so recent. It is, you know, she's put, says she's on a GLP one. Yeah. So it's post her like sort of glow up. It's present. It's present day. The Whitney Levitt picture is her red hair. So it's like, seriously, from the last year at least. Yeah, but also it's, it's also been on a journey. It's from yesterday.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Yeah, she lost weight. So it's literally from yesterday. The Jesse Draper photo, because Jesse Draper is always really public about her, um, plastic surgery's procedures. And she just recently, got one done and she looks like very different from it. And this picture of Jesse Draper is from 24 hours ago. Like it's so recent. The picture of Rachel Parcell has to be 15 years old. It's so weird that they did that. It's like so deliberate and like mean. But but why her? I don't know. It's so we I mean it's insane that she looks 17 in the picture. Yeah. I think it's like her wedding photo like I don't know if it's meant to be shady or whatever or late. Or late. easy. Like they just like looked up Rachel Parcell and didn't like even know that, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:43 she doesn't really look like that anymore because she's grown. And it is like I got sideline by the picture they chose for Rachel Parcell, but it is like a good call about how like Mormons really do right now in pop culture like are kind of taking over every major. I didn't even realize like how all the dancing with the stars people are more Utah Mormons. Um, there is this like obsession, like fixation with Mormon culture. Um, and then of course the comments were like so interesting to read because half the people were like, you know, these people aren't Mormon. Why are you losing it?
Starting point is 00:43:11 Like so. Well, I just think they're fascinating. They're fascinating. They're beautiful and interesting. And I think a lot of the things that like they value are things that we find entertaining. Yeah. You know, like beauty and family.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Right. Like I think a huge tenant in their religion is like seeking perfection. Like always to be like doing your best, looking your best family. Like so that makes for good TV and just good, interesting things to follow. And I think it's a. I mean, I wonder, I'm sure the church isn't thrilled about it because they would rather see, like, you know, perfect Mormons or whatever. But, like, I think that actually it's a net positive for a Mormon cue score. I completely agree.
Starting point is 00:43:52 I bet the church, like, is pissed about it. But I feel like it's done more. Especially considering the last big thing was, like, Book of Mormon. So that's what I was going to say is that, like, up until, like, the Real House of Salt Lake City and all these shows, like, the only real thing I knew about Mormonism was that Broadway show. I saw it. They made the best for the Mormons. No. So I imagine that they're thrilled with the...
Starting point is 00:44:16 The change of tone. Yeah. But I don't think they're thrilled. No. But I do think it is better. It is good for them. Yeah, we too. Our next story.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Oh, Mark Anthony is speaking out about the Beckham family feud, the man at the center of the drama. Oh, I didn't see this. So Mark Anthony told the Hollywood report. He was discussing, you know, the drums. And he said, they're a wonderful, wonderful family. He said, I've known them since before the kids were born.
Starting point is 00:44:45 I'm godfather to Cruz. I'm really close to the family. But I have nothing to say about what happened there. It's extremely unfortunate how it's playing out. But how it's playing out is hardly the truth, he said. Okay, so he said a whole bunch of nothing, but then a little at the end. So he's at the center of the drama because allegedly he performed at the wedding, a very romantic special song, and he called up the most beautiful woman in the room,
Starting point is 00:45:04 Victoria Beckham. And apparently like it was this. sort of like him the villain in the story. Unless Victoria told him to do that, it was just him wanting to celebrate his beautiful friend, Victoria Beckham. Yeah. Before Brooklyn and Nicola had their first dance. And apparently Brooklyn and Victoria weren't supposed to have a dance, which is disgusting for boy mamas everywhere. Agreed. That was like, I know like I see things through my own lens, but that's definitely where my mind went. So if it was a surprise mother son dance, that means there was no dance to begin with? I'm on the side of reels of like, of boy. I don't want to see. I don't want to
Starting point is 00:45:37 say toxic boy mammas. It's like boy mamas who stand with Victoria Beckham. Oh, that's beautiful. Yeah, and it's like all of them dancing the spice girls talking about how they're going to dance. Mama, I love you. Mama, I kill.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Okay, I didn't see that Mark Anthony had spoken out. I kind of was waiting for him to say something. And while he didn't really get involved, you could read between the lines and he's saying, but that bitch, Nickla. Lines. Lines. Flying snobs. Flying brats.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Yeah. Brats. I'll ship them off to Switzerland. Parent trap? Yeah. Parenthrap with like a side of it takes two. You know what I mean? Because Clarice and Meredith Blake are the same person.
Starting point is 00:46:23 Nobody talks enough about it takes two. Rest in peace, Kirsteasy Alley. One of the best movies ever made. That Dennis Quaid. No, no. I'm getting confused with Parent Trap. Who's like the hot dad? It feels like Dennis Krily.
Starting point is 00:46:36 But it also. feels like the dad from little giants. It takes to IMDB. 1995. I need to watch this movie again. Alyssa and Amanda. So, so real. Alyssa and Amanda. The cast is, of course. Steve Guttenberg.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Oh, of course. Steve Guttenberg. He's so fucking classic. Roger Callaway. Yeah. I fucking love this movie. Loki, there was a time where Kirsti Alley was like banging out. pop, look who's talking, that movie with John Travolta about the babies who talk. I need to rewatch it because, like, it's the best movie ever made. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:13 And then I think they came out with, like, three sequels because it was that good. And each sequel was amazing. And Clarice sort of got... Who's the actress who plays Clarice? Jane Sibbitt. She got sort of, like, shoehorned into playing, like, mean. Evil stepmother. Yeah, because she was also in O'Pair.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Remember that movie? Of course, I remember O'Pair. That was a crazy movie. It was an amazing movie. And it did, I think, a really good. wonders for the opere community everyone wants an opair there's nothing more fabulous than an opair yeah but it's not what you think no i know it's like but i'm saying it's an au pair so it is but it sounds really fabulous yeah no like the life of an opair it's actually really dark really yeah you like get paid
Starting point is 00:47:51 nothing and a lot of the dads are like predatory because it's just like an excuse to hire like a beautiful young woman yeah i don't like and i think i'm gonna get a governess a governess is what you think in No parrots. Correct. You need a governess. Big time. Will you be my governess? I would be an amazing governess.
Starting point is 00:48:09 You would. Dream job. Literally. Living a castle. Are you ready for our fifth and vinyl story? I am. Kim Kardashian appears to be cheered on by Lewis Hamilton as she attempts the Titanic challenge with her sisters Chloe and Kim.
Starting point is 00:48:22 So, shockingly, last night, Kylie posted a video of the sisters doing the Titanic challenge. Did you also think it was a throwback video? No. I was more so listening, like, because there were a lot of men. like laughing in the background. Like it was like giving date night. I was thinking Timothy's there because Kylie posted it and sisters were hanging out
Starting point is 00:48:40 and like men were laughing. I guess it could have been Rob, but like that's so not interesting. No, I feel like Webb doesn't hang out with them. It better not have been Rob. But now they're saying that they think it's Lewis Hamilton like hanging with the sisters. But I could also see like Lewis and Timothy
Starting point is 00:48:50 like wanting to hang. Oh, definitely. Yeah. I really thought, I don't know if there was like a filter on the video. It looked like a Snapchat video from the King Kylie era and she was like reposting it. Well, the vibes were Snapchat
Starting point is 00:49:00 of like giggling in the living room. Yeah. That's stupid. And, like, Kylie never hangs out with her sister. So I thought for sure she, like, was posting this throwback video from the last time she hung out with her sisters. Right, because she doesn't post stuff like this anymore. I was honestly shocked that she posted and it was just like so silly. And Kim had like a long ponytail.
Starting point is 00:49:13 It was giving like the Miami era. Yeah. Okay. Okay. But I don't think it was a throwback at all. I think it was like last night or the night before. Well, the night before was Super Bowl. So literally like in real time.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Maybe it's been the Super Bowl. Maybe they were like all watching. Oh, no. Kim was at the Super Bowl. And Chloe and Kylie were and Pekendel was. So I wasn't like looking in the background trying to hear voices because I thought, I don't know, it was probably like Ray J in the background. Like I thought it was so old. Chris Humphreys.
Starting point is 00:49:39 No, so there were like men chuckling. And I thought it was Timothy because it like men should never laugh. Like never. Broke bitches should never laugh. Sorry, continue. But it seems to be Lewis Hamilton. I don't know why you guys think Lewis. I'm going Timothy.
Starting point is 00:49:57 But it could also be both. It was like a multiple people hang night. I don't think Timothy would find this funny. Like, I couldn't see him laughing at this, you know? But if Kylie thought it was funny, yeah, and he loves Kylie. Yeah. And I don't think she would, like, do something that he finds, like, stupid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:12 They also have been together for five years. Like, I think they think less about, like, should I do this in front of him? I think they're comfortable. Yeah. Around each other. Just to guess. Yeah. And really happy.
Starting point is 00:50:21 The way I, like, actually don't care that Kim's dating Lewis Hamilton, like, it's so not doing it for me. I agree. It's actually doing the opposite for me. But I think that's more so, like, a reflection of where I'm personally at with Kim. Like it's nothing about Lewis self. Yeah. Which is just like a real indifference. Yeah. I was talking
Starting point is 00:50:36 about this with Olivia yesterday when she was asking like which one you vibe with the most. And I was just saying like Chloe. But it also changes. Yeah. Sorry, Chris. Like Chris is eternal. But also Kylie. Yeah. And like by the way, when I'm talking about the show. Courtney. Sometimes Courtney. Sometimes Courtney. And sometimes Kim. Like there was a period. Yes.
Starting point is 00:50:54 A couple years ago. Yes. You know, and it's not like she's done something wrong, but like you just evolve. Everything flows. And it's all. good. It's all good vibes, you know? Yeah, but to me, like, Chris is who she is and she has been forever. So, like, I'm going Chris. But I also could, like, if Kim dated someone, like, interesting to me right now, it could change every, it could bust a case wide open. It's true. And instead, she's not. She needs to just do something different and date, like, someone ugly and poor. No, no. I, sure, but, like, also a celebrity, even when she needed Pete Davidson,
Starting point is 00:51:24 that was so interesting. Yeah, something different. And so buzzy. And I'm open. It's, it's, It'll be hard for though. Even if she was dating like Tom Brady, I'd be like, yawn. Agreed. I'll have to noodle on it. Yeah. Noodle. Let's do deer toasters, which is brought to you by Taylor Farm Chop Salad Kids. Oh, yum. You know, we love salad.
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Starting point is 00:55:39 where we try to help out our community. You guys support us so much, we want to support you. And we take three submissions every week from Girlies in need, whether they're experiencing marital issues, workplace issues, friend issues, and we try to give, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:51 our tough love, old Jewish mother advice, okay? If you want to write in, our email is Deertoasters at g-gmail.com, or you can head over to our website, the toastpodcast.com, scroll down little submission box both are totally anonymous will never blow up your spot we don't use real names or things of that nature hello sorlis i recently found out that my boyfriend's family created a separate group chat without me but included a group set without me am i wrong for feeling upset that he didn't tell me and that he never asked anyone in his family why the new chat was created without me i'm newer to the family and i'm trying to be understanding but it makes me sad to think that he didn't even question it when the new chat was made or give me a heads up about it by the way his mom is the one who added me to the original chat not him okay i don't think this is a big deal. I think there are a lot of permutations of chat. And whichever chat pops off, like, just speaks to the nature of the people in the chat. But, like, there's no reason
Starting point is 00:56:38 why that chat should be more vibrant than the chat that you're in. And if you want to be involved in more chat things, then write in the chat, you're in and make that the one. Sure. I also think it's just, like, simply a seniority thing. Like, family chats, like, I don't know how serious people take it, but, like, you really only get added when you're like, and you said that this girlfriend has been with the brother longer than you. So I just feel like maybe your time's not in yet. And like it's actually nice that they have a chat with you. Yeah. But the OG family chat. Like you're not, you haven't sort of been there long enough to be a part of. And your boyfriend not telling you like, I, I want to say one, he's a man. He probably didn't like notice or really care. And two, like it was probably more
Starting point is 00:57:15 in service of your feelings. Why do you need to know about a chat that you're not in? Yeah, I agree. And you are in a chat. Right. And there are just like a lot, normalize having like all different combinations of chats without this person without happening. Because what's worse in like being in a chat that doesn't apply to you? Right. This is so Kardashians like talking about the chats. But we have so many chats and like some. I guess someone could be like oh my God how am I not in that chat? Well it's like it doesn't hurt you. It doesn't apply to you. It doesn't apply to you. And the one that applies to you, you are in. There is a version that applies to you. Yeah. I think you're like looking way too much into the chat. I'm trying to think of like you guys get married and everything. You will be in this chat forever. Like it's it's all coming.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Like you don't need to rush this stuff. Yeah. I agree. And I certainly wouldn't be mad at your boyfriend. Like there are definitely things like you should be mad at him for. I'm sure like he didn't take out the garbage. But like this is really not one of them. No. It's so important to pick our battles. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:05 I agree. And like this comes in time. Like I feel like people in real, I don't know how long you've been dating for, but I feel like people just like think that they are owed this just by dating. Like no, all of it, first of all unfolds organically when you are needed when they're going on a trip and let's have a chat. Like the same.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Right. You can't just be like, put me in the chat. Like it no. Whenever, when there's a group photo, you want to send it to everyone. And then all of a sudden we have a chat. Like, let the chips fall where they may. Let the chats fall where they may. Don't force it.
Starting point is 00:58:34 It will happen organically if you continue on this path. If you, like, force it and they put you in. And then it's like, no one's going to write in the chat because like it's just awkward. And like, yeah, there are things that it's just. Not for everyone. Not for everyone all the time. Like, you will get there. And then soon you'll be in the chat and they don't stop writing and you're like,
Starting point is 00:58:49 get me out of the chat. So just accept where you are right now. This next one felt like deeply personal. Oh. Hello. Is this postpartum rage, or am I justified, which could be a whole new segment, I just want to say, because nobody talks about postpartum rage. I actually had a lot of pregnancy rage too. People talk a lot about the different emotions, like a lot of people get very emotional, very sad, or whatever.
Starting point is 00:59:08 I experienced mostly rage, fiery, passionate rage about, mostly directed at bed. I'm a new mom and I love my husband. He's never given me a reason to question him. After numerous asks to throw away his vape because we have a daughter now and swearing that he was done, I caught him on the security camera. using one again. When I confronted him, he completely lied a little too well. And only when I confessed that I watched him on the camera, did he slowly then start to admit to it saying that he lied because he knew that I didn't like the babe. Is this shady? Am I being hormonal? Like, what is the proper reaction? So to me, sitting here, having no personal stake in it, this like doesn't sound like a
Starting point is 00:59:43 huge deal. However, to you, there have been multiple crimes committed here that have to do with your daughter's health, your partner's health, lying, trust, betrayal, all of this while you are in a very fragile state. So I understand for you, dear reader, why you're seeing red, and I'm not going to stop you. And I am coming at this as a former vape addict, just to perhaps color the situation a little bit. Like,
Starting point is 01:00:06 I want to assume that he's trying his best. It's so hard. Might I recommend quit with Jones? I don't think, like, you should reprimand him. No, I'm putting myself in her shoes. I'm irate. I've just been pregnant for 10
Starting point is 01:00:25 months. I've just given birth, perhaps, I'm breastfeeding. I'm giving everything I have to our child. You can't stop vaping for one minute. And then you would lie to my face. The woman who birthed your, oh, I'm sick. Oh, I'm sick. Yeah. I'm sick. It's not about the vape. No, I do sympathize. The fact that you can't make one small change when I change everything about myself, my body. No, you're right. My mind. Sorry, not me taking the side of the husband. That's so not well. That's what I mean. When I sit here, I'm like, from the outside, I'm like, oh, he vaped, whatever. But like, no, no, no. When I'm in that bed, I'm holding that baby on. I see my husband's sleeping on the camera.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Oh, I'm sick. And of course, like, it does make me question, like the obsession with putting this phallic-like thing in his mouth. Like, perhaps he's gay. Like, you can't stop sucking on the vape. Well, maybe that explains some other things. I'm mad for you. Yeah, no, the more Jackie's right.
Starting point is 01:01:15 Like, I forgot. You're entitled to be enraged. It's not a big deal, though. And don't let this steal your joy. No. This is such a joyful time. But this is the exact sort of thing that just, like, gets a postpartum woman riled up.
Starting point is 01:01:27 because like when we've done what we've done, did you really have to do everything? You have no excuse to step out of line when we've done what we've done. Considering what we have done. And what we will do and what we are doing. And what we will continue to do, mind you. There's no excuse. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:46 And also send him quit with Jones. We have a, we have a code. It's not about the thing. No, like now you have to find the solution for him. It's about disrespect. Yeah. And the refusal to change and improve. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:56 when I've done what I've done. It's true. It's really beautiful. Okay, ready for our next to third and final. My husband wants to quit his very well-paying job. His boss is very toxic and my husband is very miserable. The problem is he doesn't really have a backup plan. He wants to freelance.
Starting point is 01:02:11 He's confident that he'll make even more money than he does now in his field by freelancing. And he will have much more freedom and flexibility. He doesn't want to wait to find a backup plan. He's so over it and ready to use our emergency savings in the interim. Also, this is not the first time he's gotten really sick of a job because of a terrible boss. Are corporate boss is usually terrible managers or is my husband the problem? It's very possible like your husband has had multiple toxic bosses. I would like to know how many is it like every single one because then it's like, yeah, you're the problem.
Starting point is 01:02:38 But the thing is like I don't really care. One thing about me like my toxic traditionalist comes out in deer toasters. I'm like, I'm sorry, this man is a provider. That's his literally job. And his boss is toxic. What are you a girl? Like figure it out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:54 I literally don't care about his happiness. and if he wants to quit and be a freelancer, like he now needs to spend the next six months to a year building a freelance business, seeing, like, you can't just like figure it out. Like, I'm sorry, you're a man. No, there's like bills to pay while you're figuring out. Jackie, like, if he had this sort of side hustle
Starting point is 01:03:12 that he thought he could take full time, like there was a little bit of infrastructure there, I would say, you know what? Maybe he could take a little bit of risk. And like, you never, like, quit your full-time job until your side hustle eclipses that. That's my biggest issue with Shark Tank. They always get mad at people who have like full-time jobs.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Like, sorry I have a family to feed. Like, I hate that shit. Like, toxic entrepreneur culture. No, like, you can build your side hustle till it's at a point where you think if you then had, you know, X more hours in the day. You could really crush it. Like, a little bit of a risk, a jump there. Having nothing. Like, what are you?
Starting point is 01:03:41 Like a 17-year-old girl. Yeah. No. No. Sorry. I say fuck no. I don't even care if he's the toxic one. Maybe he is.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Maybe he isn't. Sorry, you have to go to work. No, someone who has, like, an issue with at every workplace. Like, they are the problem. But she said only like this one and the one before. So like maybe it definitely could be a coincidence. And there are a lot of corporate bosses and managers who are just like so high on their own supply.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Like there should be a steady. It's like why people come the worst versions of themselves when they get like a little bit of power in the corporate office. Like that's totally real. Yeah. That's totally real. It is. But you go, you do your thing.
Starting point is 01:04:14 You come home and if you don't like it work out. You have to have a plan B like before. Nights and weekends. Ditch plan A. Nights and motherfucking weekends. Not cool. Not cool. And like I hate to get to like the.
Starting point is 01:04:24 break up with your boyfriend thing. But like... Is it a boyfriend? It's a husband. I don't know. Like a husband who's not eager to provide. Like, you know... It sounds like he thinks he's eager to provide because he's going to go do that.
Starting point is 01:04:33 He's not saying like... Someone who's so risky. Like that to me... But this is a personal thing. And also like pompous to think, oh, I'll just consult. What if I just consulted? It's like not... Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:42 This is definitely like a personal thing. Like I'm aware of my own. Like things that I really value are like stability. I don't like to take risks, especially when it comes to money. And like, I think a home needs to be like a stable. And if your job is born. boring and unfulfilling. You're like, that's just too fucking mad. Yeah. But that's, I'm not saying that's the right way to be. That's how I think things
Starting point is 01:05:01 should be. So are you this like sort of willy-nilly freelance like flower hair in the wind type of gal? Or do you also sort of value those pillars of stability. Yeah. And security. Because if that's the case, like, maybe it's not a match. I think he needs to establish like proof of concept before he can obviously quit his job. Like as as a man quitting a job and, like, like going out on your own is such a big thing. And I think more, more precautions need to be put into place. I agree.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Thank you to everybody who wrote in. That's Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment. And that is also our show, the Super Bowl sequel. The title sequel. I love that. Yeah, it literally just came to me. That's my creative process. I love what in the 11th hour when it just comes to us.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Because I was thinking like, what the fuck are you named? Super Bowl Turty's version. Right. Turty in the title, you know how we feel about that. I love it. Jackie hates it. No, no, no, I don't hate it. No, Jackie hates having our names in the title. No, or when the titles are like so niche
Starting point is 01:06:00 because I want to attract a lot of listeners. That's beautiful. And new people. So I think the Super Bowl sequel, people are like, oh, I like the Super Bowl. Then they are these two morons. And they're like, okay, this is not what I thought it was. I'll try the daily.
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