The Toast - The Surreal Housewives of Beverly Hill: Wednesday, November 20th, 2024

Episode Date: November 20, 2024

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Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to the toast and happy home day. Don't forget to hum someone you love and speaking of people that I just have so much love for. Heart hands. Let's try it. Let's give it a shot. You and I are true soulmates.

We will make a heart hand perfectly. Okay. But let's, let's both align like around our shoulder. We can't cheat. Okay. Okay. Okay. We'll see what happens. I can't cheat. Okay, okay. Okay. We'll see what happens. I don't think I did it. One day we will get it.

And that will be the end of the toast. Like, the circle is complete. There will be a prompt that's so wild. I'm gonna be like, if we get it today, after like a hundred years, I'll be like, I'm shaving my head. And then that's the day we get it. It's like one of those boards,

zero days since a successful heart hand. Like every time we try it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess. Okay. So it's Wednesday, it's hump day. It's a gargy, pargy day. Jackson Clurred, you know, in the studio, getting lit. We have a big show today.

Jackie and I- On the ones and twos. Both watched the season premiere of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. That was just what I needed last night. It was like 7.45. I was sat ready for bed, thanks Daylight Savings, and I wanted something to watch. And then I saw Dorit and Lala,

I saw Lala Ken actually shout out to Lala posted she was on Watch What Happens Live and Dorit was there. And I was like, is tonight the night? I also found out that Beverly Hills was premiering. Like what happened to commercials? Like I literally found out because Dorit posted like a picture and the caption was hashtag Rahob hashtag tonight or whatever.

I was like, wait, what? Yeah, so that was exciting. And then I also watched, watched what happens live. Random to have Lala on, no? I'm not complaining. I'm just, I thought that was like a weird. It was random. It was so amazing to see her.

She looks unbelievable. So does Dorit. I'm loving Bro-Rit, Brunette Dorit. And also Brala. She was Brunette La La last night. I also have taken a full season break from Beverly Hills. I didn't watch it all last season. So I came in with like kind of a refresh.

I feel like every season I come in with like my biases from last season, I really came in very fresh, like really hating new people and liking new people because I felt completely unburdened by what has been. So it was a real refreshing take. And I don't feel like I missed much last season. No, okay. I'm excited to hear who you're vibing with.

Yeah, I think you'll be surprised. Like for me, it's Dorit and Erica. For me, it's Dorit and Erica too For me, it's Dorit and Erica too. And like kind of for the first time ever in my Housewives career, like hating Kyle. Yes, Kyle's going through a lot. We'll talk about it. We have our fifth and final stories about Housewives

and then we're gonna get into the recap and then we have Dear Toasters. So as Latert said, there's a lot to do today. And I just know after this episode, I'm gonna feel so much lighter like, Oh, I saw such an interesting tick tock right before I started an interesting tick tock. So and it was this girl being like, I need to get this message to Jackson Claire. And it was, and people make like tag me in those all the time.

And it's like, I didn't really need to see the message, you know, like this one, like brand new information. So it's about why John Mayer might've been at the Sabrina Carpenter show. Cause it's weird. Okay Mayer might've been at the Sabrina Carpenter show, because it's weird. And this information might help. So you know who else was at the show? Danielle Fischl, she's the actress who plays Topanga from Boy Meets World.

And she was on Girl Meets World, the spinoff that Sabrina. Sabrina got her start on Girl Meets World. Exactly, Sabrina's big Disney breakout show. And I guess her and Danielle Fischl are super close. She was actually a bridesmaid. Danielle Fisch are super close. She was actually a bridesmaid. Danielle Fischl just got married and Sabrina was a bridesmaid. And a groomsman in that wedding was John Mayer.

So they're clearly connected like family friends-ish. I think that's probably where they met, like through the Fischl's. And maybe Topanga was coming and brought John. Let me tell you, I appreciate the knowledge of this connection. It's definitely good information. However, I still think his presence at the concert,

she didn't bring the other groomsmen. That's true. She didn't bring her husband. That's true. He wasn't just going to support his friend's wife. That's true, that's true. Bridesmaid. Oh my God, I have to say something too.

I wanted to tell you that, so. Thank you. No, I'm glad to know it. Something I forgot to mention, in have to say something too. I just, I wanted to tell you that, so. Thank you. No, I'm glad to know it. Something I forgot to mention in the last couple of days when I was saying I'm having like aversions to different things like food but also like institutions, people, places, things Gilmore girls, something I've really sadly

been having an aversion to is the kosher grocer. Like I couldn't even fathom stepping in there. I believe it, there's so many sights and smells. Yeah, I just, I don't know why. Maybe it's because I spent so much time there like right before that the idea, oh my God, I just like, I couldn't, I couldn't. And my friend Margot was like,

Coach your groceries today? I'm like, I can't, like I literally, I can't. Every time we needed stuff, I would send Ben. Too many smells, no can do. The thing is, it's not even smelly actually at all, even though they have like a fish market. It was just the sheer concept of it. Like I just, I can't explain these aversions.

Like, and yesterday I actually went, cause I'm like so sick of not having any real food in my house. All I eat is like chips. I'm like, I'm, I need to give some nutrients to this baby. Dr. Fox was like, are you having salmon once a week? I'm like, yeah, lol. I've had salmon twice, like since I found out I'm pregnant.

And it was in- That's a tall task to eat salmon. Yeah. And by the way, the one day, the one time I ate salmon twice, it was in one day. I was obviously feeling fine. I'm like, let me just eat all the salmon. And so I'm back, I made chicken meatballs.

So I was like, I'm really trying to eat well. So I had to take my ass to the kosher grocer. It was totally fine. I don't know what I was afraid of. It was actually quite pargy. So we're back. That's good. Well, speaking of the details of your pregnancy,

you and I are sitting down today for Q and A, like Jack's on Claude. Yeah, Diane Sawyer. Not Jack's and Claude. It's Jack's on Claude asking all of the questions about your pregnancy, your journey. We're getting questions from the Facebook group so everyone can sort of chime in

and we're gonna get a 360 view of Turd and what the last three months have been like, what the last maybe more than three months have been like, what the future looks like. And to be honest, I know this is gonna be a crazy day. I really feel like I haven't talked about it that much. I feel like we've actually had such a busy week with Kiki Palmer and I don't know,

I actually feel like I haven't, there's so much I have to say. When you look at the questions, there are so many different areas of this that we haven't even covered yet. And that's just the thing about it. It's like, yeah, we've talked about it a lot, but there's so much to say.

It's the biggest deal in the world. It's the biggest deal in the world. It's the biggest thing you can do as a human being. I'm like, seriously, I walk these streets and I'm like, you guys don't even know what's going on inside my body. Like, oh. Superwoman, a superhuman. I have a message I have to deliver.

Cause I just like, I saw, like I actually walked through a cloud of like cigarette smoke today. And I just, honestly, I can't believe like we're at a place where we're smoking cigarettes. Like, what are you a thousand? Like get an electric one. Like you have to walk out of your building.

She was like standing on the street and like, it smelled so bad. Like it actually almost killed me, let alone the secondhand smoke, you know. Maybe that person was inspired by Real Housewives of Beverly Hills last night because cigarettes talk is about to go through the roof after that scene of Dorit driving through the canyon, smoking a cigarette frantically

on the day she announced her separation. Any cigarette connoisseurs know which brand that was? I feel like it was, she probably gets her cigarettes from Europe, like it was very long. It didn't look like any, it wasn't American spirit. Like it didn't look like anything I'd ever seen before. I would think she's a Marlboro light girl. She gives such camel crush energy.

Like I can't, but it wasn't a camel crush. I didn't see her crush it. I, I'm going to go Marlboro light, but I feel like you're only going to be seeing and smelling more smoke ever since that scene. Like I kind of want to have a cigarette now, just like in solidarity with Doreen. That's my favorite thing.

And I feel like on Vanderpump rules, they didn't shy away from it as much, especially when they were all younger, they were all chain smoking in the back. A lot of the housewives smoke cigarettes and you see it once and it's shocking, but you don't know that they have a habit. I remember when they were in Dubai

and the women finally turned for the first time on Lisa Vanderpump, she ran back to her hotel room and sat on the balcony with Ken smoking cigarettes. And she's British, it's not a medium, I'm sure she smokes all the time, but it was the first time on Lisa Vanderpump. She like ran back to her hotel room and sat on the balcony with Ken smoking cigarettes. And like, she's British, like it's not a big deal. I'm sure she smokes all the time, but it was the first time seeing it. I remember being like, what is going on? She's smoking a cigarette?

Like it's so shocking to see your fave smoking cigarettes. So many celebrities smoke cigarettes. Like you just don't see it. Yeah. And it's always fun to see. It's so fun to see. It's like, it's just, it's just different. You know, it's like seeing a teacher out of school. Yeah. And there's always fun to see. It's so fun to see. It's like, it's just different. You know, it's like seeing a teacher out of school. Yeah, and there's like nothing like wrong or illegal

about it, but it feels like they're doing something crazy, especially in this day and age. It's frowned upon. And I also imagine Dorit didn't know that that was gonna be included cause it was kind of just like B-roll. She was driving, she wasn't talking to anyone like. She sat on Watch What Happens Live.

She was being chased by the paparazzi. So I think she was incredibly stressed and she didn't care that there's like a camera in her car. Probably wouldn't be included. I'm gonna have my cigarette. I don't care if you guys see it. She's also Israeli. Like Israelis love to smoke cigarettes.

That's what I always forget about to read. Like it's not shocking. And when Andy asked her about it on Watch What Happens Live. I saw a clip. And she wasn't like, oh, I just like had one. Like I think she just smokes. No, if you have a pack in your car, like you smoke.

Yeah, no, she wasn't like, oh my God, that was so crazy. Yeah, so embarrassed. It was just one time. No, like these women like to party. Like they're smoking cigarettes. Yeah. I can't remember. I think on Shadows of Sunset,

oh my God, they always used to smoke cigarettes. They didn't, like they couldn't even hide it. They were smoking hookah. It was very cultural, you know? So they were doing cigarettes, hookah, veniprum brules, they were always chain smoking. Yeah. Just a fun little additive. But IRL, like I'm not loving any people

to stop smoking near me. Like it's seriously disgusting, it can make me throw up. Yeah, that's rough, I'm sorry. It's rough, and it's also like, not to make everything about me, but like. Secondhand smoke. It's very real. Thirdhand smoke in that situation.

Correct. Correct. Well, I'm sorry you're going through that. It seems as though we all roads are like leading back to Beverly Hills. So I think we should get into the stories so that we can get into the thing that we want to talk about.

I guess, yeah. Anything else that you would like to share with the class? I'm trying to think, pregnancy brain. Yeah, no, I literally didn't do anything worth sharing yesterday except going to the kosher grocer and complained the entire day. Oh, I went to Home Depot and that was major. I had a major experience at Home Depot

and I tried to do all these things for my house. I got new lights for my vanity because there's one that's out. I bought three different kinds just to Depot and I like tried to do all these things for my house. Like I got like new lights for my vanity cause there's one that's out. I bought three different kinds just to like make sure I got the right one. None of them were the right one. I got these like grips for my chairs so that they would stop sliding.

They didn't fit. I'm done trying. I so echo your sentiment. I'm so sorry that happened to you. That's literally so real. However, all of that brought me to home goods where I found the most beautiful plates and bowls that I keep passing in my kitchen

because I let them out to dry, I wash them and they're sparking so much joy. So who cares how many light bulbs I had to buy? That didn't work. I've got the plates of my dreams. There are just some household errands that like aren't for us and going to Home Depot is not one of them. I have such a conflicted, complicated relationship

with Home Depot, because the Home Depots in the city are not stores, they're showrooms. So you like walk in like, I need a faucet, right? And so they'll show you, because you're limited on space, how big is your Home Depot? Takes up like- It was huge, and I was picking out a paint color. There are so many colors, and then they all come

in five different, like matte, sleek, whatever. And I gave the guy my paint like a bunch of different sizes. And like, they literally like plug it in and like something comes up from the basement and it's my paint jug. It's as big as like a football field. So we don't have space for that in the city. So most Home Depot's in the city are just showrooms

where they have like one of everything and then they can order it for you. Like who the fuck, like I came here to buy it. Like what order, what is this Chanel? Can I tell you something that's gonna make you like Home Depot that I read somewhere once? What? That like once a month,

maybe like the first Saturday every month, something like that, they have free classes for kids where they learn like wood shop skills. Oh, that's good. I thought you were gonna say, yeah, I thought you were gonna say like something more charitable,

like I don't know, like veterans or something. Okay, yeah, that would be nice too. Maybe they have a veteran's discount. Maybe they have like a program for veterans. They're giving back to the children. No, it's sweet, it's sweet, it's sweet. I just like, I think you like built, like you hyped up like what you were gonna say too much

that I was expecting like they gave a billion dollars to, you know. No, but I feel like everyone does that. Yeah, it's so true. Also, cause it's like everyone does that. Yeah, it's so true. Also, cause it's like a tax write off. So it's like totally selfish, but this they're just giving back to the children and teaching them how to build so that maybe one day

someone can build a cabinet for me. Right, right. Maybe. Or put together the bookshelf. No, that's beautiful. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to like, you know, clown on. So like if you, maybe you guys should go. I think like you have to be a certain age, but maybe take your kids.

Like that's a really cute thing to do. Yeah. Shout out Home Depot. I don't think Home Depot is a place like for us. You know what I mean? In terms of like shopping. It's just the fact that you went and bought a thousand things and every single one of them was wrong.

Like that tracks. Yes, but I had to go. Of course. To pick out the paint color. No, like that's not something I could have outsourced to Zach. So the returns he can do, I'm not going back there, but I got my paint color and I did what had to be done.

And then I treated myself with a jaunt to home goods. Not a jaunt. It was a jaunt and the girlies were out. You could not find parking. Oh my God. Parking is like, it's different in the city. Like, especially I don't really drive in the city. Ben does and you have to parallel park everywhere,

which is hard, but like, if you ever need a parking spot in the city, it is gonna be a parallel park, which is hard. But like, once you master it, like you can do it. Parking in those like spaces, like at a big parking lot where there's like two cars between you, like I think that's worse. It's, there's so many people watching. When Margo was here, she said, she knows how to parallel park,

but she does not know how to park in a parking space. I only know how to park in a parking space. The wide turn, like it's just, it's so complicated. I find it, and I do have trauma because the one and only time I've ever been in any sort of fender bender when you were in the car singing, singing Becky G's The Shower.

It was me pulling into a regular old parking spot at a key food. Like that's where my trauma comes from. So I think I would rather parallel park in the city. That is hysterical. I mean, parking is pretty daunting. That's why I actually had a lesson, a solo lesson with my driving instructor

after I got my license where we only did parking. Yeah. We focused on parking for like an hour and a half and I got the gist. And I think now we're at a place where you and I can admit that the reason I got in that fender better was because you were playing music so loudly taking Snapchat videos, right?

Well, you're supposed to be able to tune out your surroundings. I'm just like a plant there. I was in high school or maybe college. Like I was such a fresh driver. Like you were just really being manic in the front seat. Dancing in the mirror, singing in the shower. Like really nutty.

La da dee, la da da. Can you help me? That song slaps so hard. You can't not dance. You ruined that song for me, so thanks. You can't not dance, you can't not Snapchat. And I do often think about the woman that we sideswept being so cool about the whole situation.

Like she had this old school Cadillac, she was loading groceries into her car, and I sideswept her and I was like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. And I'd never been in an accident before, but I know you have to call the police, right? Like insurance. And she seriously wiped the side of her car with a rag

and she was like, it's fine. To be honest, that would be me. Like, it's too inconvenient, I'll just take the dent for a year and then I'll deal with it. She was so real and she saved me. I would have gotten in so much trouble. I did end up getting in trouble

because our car had a dent, but like if I- No, and it was a rental and then a month later when we returned it, they were like, there's a dent in this car. And our mom was like, who? And I was, it wasn't even hard. None of the sisters knew how to drive except for me. So I got in so much trouble because she was like,

if you would have let me fix it before, it would have been so much cheaper than returning it with a dent and I have to pay like the Hertz fee. And honestly, I felt so bad. Like it was, it was kind of, it plagued me like until we returned to the car, kind of ruined my summer. And all thanks to you and Becky G. So thanks. Well, I'm glad that you have someone to blame it on

so that you don't have to accept responsibility. And obviously Ben wasn't with us or else it would be him. Now I'm glad that he's joined the picture that you know Leave space for us to just have a copacetic friendship. It's so true. Maybe he was texting you that day. Maybe Okay, I think we could dive in I agree now without further ado to do to do here are the fast five stories that you need To know today's episode is brought to you by skim so you guys know we love the holidays But of course shopping for everyone on your list can be really overwhelming.

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That was very Mr. Schuster of me. Stop. By the way, before we get into the story, it's just an update to a story from yesterday about Pete Davidson and Maria from The Bachelor. She posted- NBM controls a undo. Yeah, she said, never dated Pete,

false rumor on friends with his sister, case closed. And then she said, his sister said he's not in rehab and he's been sober for months. He's literally home. Yeah, I think that Steve, Steve, oh my God, Pete Davidson often uses other people's social media to like get his messaging out there. And so I think that like she was talking to his sister

and Pete was like, tell her to post. He doesn't really utilize his own social media. And I have memories of like she was talking to his sister and Pete was like, tell her to post. He doesn't really utilize his own social media. And I have memories of like other comedians who he's friends with, like him putting out statements on their social medias. And so I actually feel like this is a verified report. Like I believe it. Yeah, no, I believe it too.

Like where did this come from? I don't know. A part of me like does still wanna believe that they went out a little bit because I feel like they did. They're definitely like hooking up behind the sister's back. Sorry. Like ship.

Yeah. All's to say. Our first story. My best friend's brother is the one for me. B F B. Literally, Victoria's Justice. It's a classic tale. It's a classic tale of a best friend's brother.

Still as old as time. Our first story is some sad news. Oh yeah. Big celeb news of the day, which is that the One Direction members emotionally reunited at Liam Payne's funeral in the UK. So Liam Payne's funeral was held in the UK and the former One Direction bandmates were amongst

the mourners at his funeral on Wednesday. Harry, Zane, Niall and Louie all came together for the first time in nearly nine years to pay their respects to the late singer. They joined Liam's closest friends and family outside of London as he was laid to rest one month after his fatal fall. Simon Cowell and his fiance were there as well. The mourners were photographed outside walking in.

I also saw a video of them in what appears to be at a cemetery, like at the actual grave site. Now, of course, not to make everything about me, but my first thought was- Dennis' funeral. Yeah, like it's so wrong. And the UK is even worse, right? Like when it comes to, they're notorious,

the tabloids for really always crossing the line. And like, this is just something like I will never get on board with. And yeah, I was like, oh cool. Nice to see all the guys together. Like, honestly, I wish I didn't see it. Like it's so awful. Yeah.

And I feel like the only, like I'm trying to think of recently, cause I remember Matthew Perry's funeral. There was one like drone shot of like the six cast members walking into the funeral, like into the church. And honestly, like as much as I wish they would have left them alone, like that to me, that was fine.

Like, okay. Like that's so crazy though, to put a drone on a funeral. But then also this feels crazy. Cause it's like, we're seeing pictures pretty close up of the members. So that means there's like paparazzi in their face as they're walking. And I didn't see the video of the gravesite.

That's really horrible. But as they're walking even from the car into the church or wherever it was held, they're being like mobbed. It's just, it really indicates a moral depravity in our culture. Like I'm sorry to just talk about this, but it bothers me so much. And you can tell they were all really aware

in the video that I saw, aware of where this person was standing. They totally saw them physically standing there because they really did all they could to like just give their back to the camera. Like you didn't get a lot of face. James Corden was there too. Yeah.

And his fiance or girlfriend, obviously, Kate. James Corden? No, I'm sorry. That was a confusing way to say it. Oh, I'm sorry. Like I thought it was Mary. Liam Payne. And she has an egg allergy. Yeah, yeah, Kate. James Corden? No, I'm sorry, that was a confusing way to say it. Oh, I'm sorry, but I thought it was Mary. Liam Payne. And she has an egg allergy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, both of us.

Liam's girlfriend, Kate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, agreed. Sorry, that was like a bad way of phrasing it, my bad, my bad. No, it's okay. Maybe it was just a comma that we couldn't see. I think we're all commas that we just couldn't say.

I feel like comma should be like a word, like a verb, a spoken word. Orated. Yeah. Comma, I agree. They're key. Yeah, they are. Some people also, and I'm looping myself in,

like don't know how to talk, like in terms of how to pace your sentences and like when to pause and, and like punctuation is verbal. It's a part of your mannerisms and your intonation. And some people, myself included, just skip right by it. I just swallow those sentences. We've even started saying period

to let you know I'm done speaking. Do with comma next what we did with period. Yeah, I think it would be really helpful. But I also think as more people do talk to text, maybe the next generation will be speaking like that because you have to let them know when you're doing a comma question mark. Yeah. And the, yeah, it's true.

Like the way I send, sometimes I'll be sending someone a voice memo and I think that I'm doing dictation. So I'll be like, how are you doing question mark? The way my voice memos are so formal because it's hard for me to toggle between talk to text and voice memo. So I'm like very slow.

And then I remember voice memoing. I can never remember which one I'm doing. I try to like inject a little personality. Totally. Anyways, sad, sadness. So sad. And you know what? Things like this always remind me like how in our culture,

like most of the funerals I've ever been to in Judaism, it's like mandatory that you bury the person the day after they died. Now, of course, like extenuating circumstanceserals I've ever been to in Judaism, it's like mandatory that you bury the person the day after they died. Now, of course, like extenuating circumstances, maybe you can get an extra day, but it's so crazy to me that like, you know, when did he pass away?

This is a month ago. Right, like it's so different than what I'm accustomed to. I like had almost forgotten that we hadn't had a funeral yet. Yeah. So that's just like a weird thing for me. Again, not to make everything about me, sorry. Right, no, it's different. It's different.

And I just like, this was like a reminder of that. Right, are you ready for our next story? It's some fun, almost casting news. I love fun, almost casting news, second. And it's actually very pertinent to the situation. So Wicked nearly had a different director and stars. It nearly starred Lady Gaga as Elphaba and Shawn Mendes as Bach.

So- I don't like that. And the director was gonna be Stephen Daldry who did the crown. So at one point he was tapped to do the project and he had Lady Gaga in mind to play Elphaba and Shawn Mendes would play Bach who eventually is played by Jonathan Bailey.

But then this whole concept fell through and then John M. Chu took over and that's what we've got. I do not like the vision you just described, mostly because I think, and I think Ari is the perfect one to do it. I like that everybody in this adaptation is like a classically trained Broadway singer. Like Jonathan Bailey is a huge background in theater.

Cynthia Arrevio obviously does. Like it's a musical, it's from the theater. It's a theater, a play adaptation. Like, well, I love Lady Gaga and Shawn Mendes. Like they are pop stars by trade. And yes, Lady Gaga has a lot of acting experience, but like, I don't know. I don't think, I don't think, Shawn,

I'm more against Shawn Mendes being in this. Like I don't even know. I don't think he has ever even acted period than I am Lady Gaga. She's like a chameleon and she can do anything. But I think like a sprinkle of Ariana Grande, who's like an actual pop star is perfect for Glinda. But the integrity of the entire play,

I feel remained intact. Given the fact like even Ethan Slater, like everyone they tapped was from the theater world. Yeah, also I haven't listened to the whole soundtrack, but it seems like they're really sticking to the notes of the original songs where like Lady Gaga does not know how to do that. She's such an individual.

She can't even do the Star Spangled Banner without like putting her Lady Gaga spin on it, which we love, but for this, I wanna hear the songs as they were written and not like her version of it just yet. I also, what I thought you were gonna make as a story is they had recently released people who had auditioned for Wicked.

And I saw some names on there that I was really surprised by Amanda Seyfried went out for Glinda. I always forget that she sings that cause I never saw Mamma Mia. Oh, I forgot. I didn't know that she sang. I didn't forget. I never knew that.

You're gonna love this. And you're gonna like, you're gonna be sad at what you missed because I believe she made it pretty far as Glinda Dove Cameron. Oh, she would have been amazing. Renee Rapp had also auditioned for Glinda. She shared that on Watch What Happens Live.

Although I don't think that would have been the right role for her. Agreed. And even though Dove Cameron would have been amazing, I wouldn't change like a hair on Ari's head. I think she's perfect for it. I was watching an interview of hers from like years ago. I'm sure you've seen it.

It's like making the rounds where she's talking about like her dream role. Exactly. Is to do Wicked on Broadway movie, whatever. Her dream was to be Alphaba. And she has talked about how when the auditions came around, she was ready for either character. She knew she was gonna be asked to do both

and she wound up getting Glinda. But like this has been Ari's dream. Like this is the month of dreams realized. Like just like us having Kiki on the toes, like Ari needed to be in Wicked. Do you know who went out for Fiero? Fiero. Both Nick and Joe Jonas. Fiero.

Both Nick and Joe Jonas. That's really crazy. I want to say, I actually think Nick would have done a good job because like Fiero is like kind of annoying and like show-offy, which is so Nick. Yeah. If you auditioned and you like made it kind of hard but you didn't get the part, like would you want people to know that you like didn't get it?

It's a really good question. Yeah, cause I feel like even the most successful people have like failed auditions and they become like famous stories. It doesn't mean that you're not talented. It really just means like you weren't right for the role. Yeah, and also sometimes it's like the timing doesn't work out.

Lady Gaga went on to do the Joker 2 instead of this. That's what she did with her past two years. This article is also interesting cause there is a lot of information about who tried out for a lot of this, that's what she did with her past two years. This article is also interesting because there is a lot of information about who tried out for a lot of roles, but there's very limited information on who tried out for Alphaba. Maybe John Chu knew it was gonna be Cynthia Rivo,

but it is alleged that Lea Michele did try out. She would have been great. She would have been amazing. She probably did try out. Another, and these are unverified, the Alphaba ones. Ariana DeBose, Angela Bassett did the thing, Anna Kendrick.

She's really talented and like so great for so many things, but she doesn't have like, she's not what I associate with Alphaba. And you're gonna love this one. Cause in your adaptation, it would have been Glinda as Dove Cameron and Alphaba as Jessie J. Jessie J. Yeah. Jessie J.

Yeah. Jessie J would have been amazing. Yeah. So I love like almost, cause you really do, and I haven't seen the movie yet, but I imagine it's perfect. Like I'm like, and some reviews have come in. There's-

It looks perfect. They didn't do anything controversial. They didn't change. Like it looks like exactly what you want it to be. So I'm imagining I'm just gonna like operate under the assumption that it's a great movie and that I'm gonna love it. So I love almost casting news,

but I am not mad about anyone they cast, honestly. I think Jonathan Bailey was perfect. I love, we didn't even talk about how Jeff Goldblum is Oz. I think that's great. He has such a recognizable, like powerful, booming voice. Like I have seriously no complaints. I think they actually crushed it. And I always think that like casting is bad. Like I have seriously no complaints. I think they actually crushed it. And I always think that like casting is bad.

Like I always have notes. Yeah. Also we haven't seen it yet. Oh, of course, of course. But like I said, I'm operating under the assumption that it's perfect. From the commercials. Yeah. Oh, I can't believe there's going to be a second one next year.

I will be fatigued by that. I'm just putting it out there. Yeah. Unless it's so amazing, all you would want is more like, I would like a greatest showman sequel. Imagine that was coming out the year after I saw greatest showman. Imagine that.

Hugh Jackman should have been in it. I'd like to see him up there taking that thing. Who would he have been? I feel like the only age appropriate role is Oz. There was actually a wicked theme category on Jeopardy two nights ago. And how did you fare? I got all but one right.

When one, the one that I didn't get right was like not even that hard, like a big money one. It was just a dumb question. Was it which hat should she wear to the party tonight? Yes, this is exactly what it was. No, it was like, what type of exp, we want, it was John Chu, he delivered the thing. And he was like, when I want to be this movie,

I wanted, you know, people to feel like they've entered the Emerald City, giving them this type of movie experience. Wizard of Oz? No, it's like, I guess a type of movie immersive. I never even heard of that. Oh, that's just like an adjective. Yeah, it was a bad question.

Also, it could have been like, it wanted to be a movie that felt like a real movie. The ones that I knew was like- That would have been a correct answer. Aria, what are Glinda's's first words to Alphaba? Two words. You're green? You knew that?

Yeah, I did. It's in the trailer. It's in the trailer. It was a good category. I liked it. Actually, I feel like Jeopardy has been really tailored towards me, because me and Ben watch every night. And we count.

I usually get four, maybe five right. Last night, I got 20 right, because there was a category for Billboard Music Awards where they were like talking about people and then they showed a clip of them. So they're like, who's this? And it was Mariah Carey, the Jonas Brothers. Like I was like, is this supposed to be hard?

I feel like Jeopardy sort of losing its standing. And then another category was just so easy. Also the fact that a vertical can be bought by Wicked. I know, a lot of people were impressed by that. Like that they have done sponsored categories before. And as long as it doesn't affect the integrity of the questions, I think it's fine. I didn't think the questions were amazing.

Yeah. And then they cut to Ken Jennings and he was like after the category was finished and he was like wicked in theaters, January, whatever. It was a little tacky. Ken sell out. Yeah. Listen, Ken just does what he gets told to do.

He doesn't want to get in trouble. Yeah. Yeah, no, they're doing fun things. I actually, they should have sponsored an episode of the toast where they made you dress up as Alphabumb. Me dress up as Glinda. We could like sing the whole time. And I could keep asking you to wear this hat

to the party tonight. Why would they pay us when we actually do that for free? Like, no, but like we could have dressed up. Oh my God. And you have your green background and I have my pink background. Oh my God, wait, we are so wicked coded. I didn't even realize that. We are so wicked coded.

Missed marketing opportunity. Maybe for the sequel. Yeah, maybe they'll have enough budget for us next year. That would be really cute. Like now I just want to do it for free. But it would be better for you're getting paid. So you're not like sitting here in like a big ball gown. With green paint on my face. but it would be better for you're getting paid. So you're not like sitting here in like a big ball gown. You're very pretty.

With green paint on my face. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? A little love news. Who's in love besides me with you? Oh, turdy. Me with you. No, Jay Cutler is engaged to Samantha Robertson

two years after his divorce. Yes. It's only been two years. Oh, I guess maybe two years since they legally. By the way, no, they split up in 2020. They were the first to crack during the pandemic. Yeah, but it probably took them two years to legally get divorced. For sure, but they've been apart for four years.

Yeah, no, that's a misleading headline. Four plus. I'm glad we called that out because I would have just accepted that and forgotten. I'm kind of on a fact fighting mission these days. It's the jeopardy's influence on me. Multiple sources close to the couple have told People Magazine that the two of them

have taken the next step in their relationship. She was seen actually rocking a ring on her finger at the Yellowstone season five B premiere. So that settles that. Why was she at Yellowstone? Is she in Yellowstone? Who is this person? Oh, so she is a lady.

She's a mother of two. She formed- She's a lady? Like she's just like a beautiful woman. She was married to an actor before. She's very pretty. But I think he probably was invited to the, like they went to the premiere together

and she was wearing a ring on her finger. She's very pretty. Yeah, she's just a beautiful woman amongst other things, I'm sure. Like nobody lied to her. Yeah, she's just a beautiful woman. Amongst other things, I'm sure. Like nobody lied to her. Yeah, yeah. And you're saying she was qualified to own those shoes? Yeah, just like in every picture of her,

here she is at the premiere with like Bethany and Jay. And she just like, she just has that, she's got Riz as I think they say. Yeah, she was previously married to Trace Ayala. He's an actor. And close friend of Justin Timberlake, according to People Magazine. Interesting.

And it seems like they are co-parenting well. She shares- Two daughters. Did he die? No. She said, shared a tribute. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. She said shared a tribute. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay, sorry, sorry. Tribute makes it seem like somebody died. Yeah, he's alive and they have kids together. They seem to get along well, that's nice. Yeah, so they'll have like a blended family. Yeah, I like Jay Cutler. I worry for him. You know, he did have that DUI

that we just like sort of never heard anything about it. That was literally yesterday too. Maybe he was celebrating his engagement. Yikes, yeah. It was definitely like gave me pause. Yeah. Oh, and I did watch that Kristin Cavallari TikTok. How funny?

Very funny and full of tea. Full of tea. So real. So real. She's so pretty. And that neighborhood they were running around like got to buy a house there. It was so nice.

Yeah, goals. That's my favorite part of that TikTok trend is people like run outside in their neighborhoods and it's just like nice to see where the other half lives, you know? Totally. Anyways, mazel tov to Jay. Yeah, that's nice.

I hope that Samantha and Kristen get along well and all's well. Me too. Do you think Kristen's like easy to get along with in that type of situation or she makes it difficult? I could see her being like a little Meredith Blake. I don't think she makes it difficult, but I think she's like pretty exacting. And she's also like, lest we not forget,

like the original cool girl, like she doesn't wanna hang out with some loser. Wow. If someone could like match her, I think she would be happy to welcome them in. Yeah, cause they do, their kids are young. Like they are gonna be involved in each other's lives. It's not like the kids are off at college

and you never have to see the new wife, you do. But I think like these two have potential for getting along. Cause she seems, I don't know Samantha Robertson, but she seems like a real one. Based on her Instagram, she gives good vibes and you know that's really half the battle. I mean, it is.

Some people can't even do that. So true. Are you ready for our fourth story, which is kind of taking the world by storm? I am. It's some aviation food news. Okay, it's a little misleading. Delta flights will be serving Shake Shack burgers

in first class. So, asterisk, Delta Airlines has announced a partnership to serve Shake Shack burgers on long haul flights to a lucky moneyed few. That's right, an all beef cheeseburger with Shake Shack special sauce will be available to you as long as you're flying first class. And as long as you're flying one specific route.

Yeah, it will only be available on flights longer than 900 miles departing Boston. Right, okay. So thanks, like this was just kind of like big headline news and then you, for lack of a better word, you read it and it's a nothing burger, not a Shake Shack burger. So to all those flying over 900 miles

from Boston Logan airport, enjoy. Yeah, no, it could be the start of something new. But also it's like so funny to me how it's like, first class is meant to be luxury and this is fast food. And we're excited about it. Like you could also probably pick up a Shake Shack in the airport and bring it to your coach seat. You actually can at JFK.

There's two Shake Shacks in the big Delta terminal and pretty much everyone boards a flight with a big old bag of Shake Shack, but you do have to arrive like 30 minutes early. It's the slowest place on the planet. Like literally one time I got a soda over there, like it never fucking came. So I guess this lets you jump the line

and like have it served to you on your flight. But like, I feel like airlines really have pulled one over on us if we're supposed to think that this is the epitome of luxury. We are being bamboozled into thinking that this is cool and luxury and it's literally not. They just got Shake Shack delivery.

What they should be doing is partnering with Jean George. Right. That's first class. And please, I just wanna say, I'm not looking for a Jean George meal in first class. I'm more so looking for a Shake Shack, but conceptually this makes no sense.

Yeah, no, it's like, it's not giving what they think it's giving, but I feel like other people are like, oh my God, sweet, sick, like this is awesome. But I'm just like, you guys just go down the terminal. There's a Shake Shack. Yeah, let me buy a $1,500 ticket for a $4 hamburger. I mean, actually it's probably in this economy, not a $4 hamburger, but you know what Iack. Yeah, let me buy a $1,500 ticket for a $4 hamburger. I mean, actually it's probably in this economy, not a $4 hamburger, but you know what I mean.

Yeah. So- Oh, and you can, it's not special. You can literally get it five minutes before your flight. And I'm sure at the Boston airport, which is why they have this service, I'm sure they have a Shake Shack there too, because I know they have- By the way, they better.

They better so it's fresh. They definitely have like, there already is a preexisting Delta Shake Shack Q Lab, because it's in the terminals, the Delta terminals. So this is just like the logical next step. It's literally one route in one city and it's fast food. Like And it's fast food that anyone on the plane can access right before their flight.

But this is truly emblematic of like the consumer's relationship with the airlines. We beg for scraps and we are so grateful for the shit that they give us. Now I'm not saying Shake Shack is shit. Like you guys know what I'm saying, but it is fast food. No, that we're meant to rejoice over this. Look how they've tricked us. Like we're all like, yay, yay, yay. When like, seriously, why don't you just treat us like human beings first?

Like keep your hamburger. Why don't you like treat us like human beings first, like keep your hamburger. Why don't you like give us three inches for our knees in coach? Like, I'm just, they've really, it's actually a psychological experiment, what they've pulled on us. No, and it's so crazy how now when you buy a ticket and you're like, okay, I just want a seat,

like I'm just going from like A to B, like you buy your ticket, but then you have to like pay for your seat. Even if it's- Pay for your seat, pay for have to like pay for your seat. Even if it's- Pay for your seat, pay for your bag, pay for your drink. Even if it's like in economy, I guess unless you want to be like in the middle seat in the bathroom row, that seat is free,

but all the other seats, like you have to pay for your seat. Yeah, there's, they've literally tricked us. It's like, there's a baseline fare. Yeah, fair. And then there's the cost of your seat. Like, excuse me? Right. It's really crazy.

So what's the fare? What is the fare? You could do fare without seat selection. And then like, it's just up to- If you do fare without seat selection, you're one of the people who gets bumped off. Like they have another flight attendant who needs a seat, a jumper seat, buy.

Bump. Bump to next Thursday, you'll get home. It's really insane. They need to be put in check. Yeah, I mean, it's a separate choice seeing it news like this, cause like they won. Look at us. Not the, they didn't win it over the toast though.

Yeah. And by the way, we're Delta loyalists. Yeah. And that's mostly because we can't even have Shake Shack cause it's not kosher. Right. I didn't see the veggie burger option. They do have a mushroom burger that people actually really like. I've had it. It didn't seem like it was an option though. No, it wasn't. All beef, all the time. Thank your local cattle rancher.

And you know it's not local. It's totally from Brazil. And you know they're not thanking their rancher. No. It's disgusting. Even the Brazilian one. Disgusting. Are you ready for our fifth and final story that will lead into our TV recap? No, they're not thanking their rancher. No, it's disgusting. Even the Brazilian one. Disgusting. Are you ready for our fifth and final story that will lead into our TV recap? If it's our fifth and final story

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with Kevin Costner while they were in Aspen at the same time. She said, Kyle and I have this conversation. She was in Aspen and Kevin Costner was there, and she was like trying to hook up with Kevin Costner. The trio had been discussing Kyle's rumored romance with country singer Morgan Wade, who has long been the center of romance gossip with Kyle. She said, but you want, Garcelle said,

but you want Kevin Costner and Sutton added, I know. So Sutton said, this is what I'm saying. I don't think that Morgan's the end all be all because Kyle really wants, it's not all about Morgan. There's some Kevin Costner mixed in there. Okay, fun. Like the Housewives love Kevin Costner, which totally makes sense.

Lou Ann Della Costner, Kyle Costner, love it. I ship him with any of them. Like he's there with Len Powell. It's so true. And I love that they're all like consistently chasing after him. So I love that. Real Housewives of Beverly Hills last night

was like so refreshing for me. I had taken a break from the show and I feel good about the fact that I feel like nothing happened last season. Like I really don't feel like I missed much. And I came in, like I didn't really have many questions. The only thing is who is Merce? Oh, Merce.

Oh my God. So he, this is like a funny story. Is Merce a dog? No, he is like a legendary choreographer and dancer, like huge in the dance community. He was Sutton's like mentor. When she moved to New York after college, she worked for Merce and like,

that's where she started her career. And even Erica was like, Merce is a legend. Like everybody knows Merce. And Merce had passed and they went to Spain to scatter Merce's ashes. And Sutton brought them with her cause she was like charged with doing that. And she like brought Merce to like the dinner table

and in her purse and Erica was like, Merce is in the purse. Then when she went to scatter his ashes, of course they blew back on all the women. So Merce has just been like a big figure, one in his life and two now on Beverly Hills. Funny, okay, thank you. I literally thought Merce was a dog because that's so something the housewives would do,

like take their dog's ashes. I mean, that's literally what Sonya did and then it blew back on everyone. Now, I was really shocked when Garcelle put into perspective that now that Dorit is not married, that none of the women in the group are married. And I feel like that's actually a really bad sign for a franchise because it reminds me a lot of the downfall

of the Real Housewives of New York and also very interesting that they premiered Beverly Hills right before New York. Like they're really desperately trying to offload some viewers onto New York. Oh my God, they tried desperately. I actually had to leave New York on so I wouldn't miss Watch What Happens Live

because Watch What Happens Live wasn't even on the TV guide. It said Real Housewives of New York. But then I'm like looking at Lala's Instagram, they said 10, 15. So I left on Real Housewives of New York. I watched against my will in order to watch, watch what happens live.

So do not count that rating, Nielsen, I didn't watch it. They are doing everything they can to try and get ratings for Real Housewives of New York. Like nobody's watching it. And it is, it is large, like people hate it. So I just thought that was interesting. But I feel like it's not a good sign for a franchise when none of the women are married.

Not that you need to be married to be valid, but I just think that like Beverly Hills had always had like a good mix of single women, but also really strong institutional marriages. And it just reminds me a lot of New York where like one by one, they slowly all got divorced. And then it was this cast of like single women, just like kind of being nuts and drinking too much

and not really being good housewives. Yeah, I agree with that, but I don't think that they're there yet, especially because- No, no, no. Dorit and Kyle are still separated, so it's still ongoing, and their marital affairs are storylines.

Kathy is married, she's not a full-time housewife, but I feel like, yes, it is really crazy, because at one point- Oh, and the new housewife, Boz, is married. No, she's widowed. Oh God, yeah, sorry, oh my God. Yeah, so I agree, that's really crazy. I guess we'll start with Doreed and PK,

because we had reported back in the spring when they separated, but I completely forgot. And when she told- Completely forgot. When she told Erica, it was as if I heard it for the first time, and then I was like, oh yeah. You guys, I texted Jackie, I'm like, did we know this information?

I completely forgot. They made that statement and then nothing happened. Like they just radio silent. Yeah. The way that Dorit is like approaching it. I think she's like, obviously being really strong, really level-headed and like stable for her children. But like she's being so matter of fact. I feel like I have no idea what's actually going on.

Well, I think it's PK's choice to separate. That was the vibe that I got, which I was shocked by. Yeah. So it's like he got sober and then realized all of their issues in their marriage. All their issues in the marriage are still there. Like, yes, they were improved by his sobriety, but they're very real and they're very much there. And,

and Dorit's like, okay, well, you aren't willing to work on it. Look, think of all the shit I've put up with your DUI, your bankruptcy, your gambling debts. She's so real for that, first of all. Now you see things clearly and you're out. Excuse me, I've been seeing them clearly the whole time and I've stuck by you.

Right. I agree with her. I agree with her too. Right now there's still- I don't know if Erika was like this last season, but she's so tempered and she's so, she gives good advice to everyone without taking a side. Like she's a good friend.

She looked amazing. No, she was like this last season, I fell in love with Erika last season, like, and her journey and last season was really about like her, like coming back to herself. And she was getting out of the woods on some of this legal stuff. And then that's why I watched Betted All En Blanc

because I really just like, I'm so here for her comeback. She is like the way that she's actually like overly patient with the women now and like overly forgiving when like back in the day, like you crossed her once. But I guess you can't stay on the show if you're really gonna write off everyone who like didn't completely have your back. No, she's such a pleasure to watch

and I'm so happy for her. I agree, she's so mature. It's like a levelheadedness that we don't often see on any franchise. So I was really, I embrace it. I loved it. But I'm just like having this thing with Kyle. I feel conflicted obviously,

because and last night before the episode was on, they were playing the most recent reunion part three. And I watched like the last 20 minutes when Andy was really grilling her about Morgan Wade. And she gave us nothing. She was like on the verge of tears the whole time. She was um, um, um, I don't know, I don't know. We got no, nothing. And was like on the verge of tears the whole time. She was um, um, um, I don't know, I don't know. We got no, nothing.

And I feel conflicted because obviously, like this is somebody who's going through some sort of sexual awakening and being peppered with questions on reality TV is like the worst thing for that. Everybody's entitled to their privacy and entitled to come to this on their own terms. But Kyle's the star of a reality show,

multiple reality shows. She's notoriously questioned other people when they were going through things. So it's like, she's not being afforded, she's given the same grace that she's been giving other people, which isn't a lot. And I feel conflicted because I'm like, girl, take your time, it's nobody's business. But also you were out here shoving Denise Richards

out of the closet. I feel like I actually don't feel bad for her, even though I know I should. And it's just like, she's in the worst type of environment for what she's dealing with. Even like this conversation she had with Garcelle, she's like, I'm gonna have it with all the ladies and I'll have it with you first

because I feel safe with you. It was clear she had something to say. She couldn't even get it out. Like, what the hell are you talking about? I think what she was saying is she's like pretty much like begging Garcelle to not bring it up. Like, and she was like quivering and like she couldn't even get it out.

And she's so emotional, but basically like she's figuring all of this out. She knows that those are the rules. We bring up stuff, but she's begging her not to because she hasn't figured it out for herself. She has grown children, but mid-grown, where it's like they watch a show and they know, but they're still her babies.

So I think she's just so scared. But also I felt like last season, like Kyle is a different person, not just cause she doesn't drink and cause she works out and she hangs out with Morgan Wade. Like her personality and even the way that she speaks has really changed and even more so this season where she's like, I don't know,

just not that like confident. Yeah, Tim, like she just used to be. Head bitch in charge. And now it's not like that. So it's kind of like sad to see, while also like she is discovering herself. And she wanted this separation with Mo. I'm sure there's more to the story,

but like it wasn't like she was begging him to stay. So it is confusing, but also because she is confused. Yeah, and it's a frustrating thing to watch because I'm just looking for clarity and she doesn't have that. So I think that's what I got from her conversation with Garcelle is like, please, like I'm not doing okay. Like, please don't go hard on me

because that's what Garcelle does. And that's why I guess she's so mad at Dorit for bringing up that random text message. Like that's what they do on these shows. You share a text message. Like it wasn't that big of a deal, but I guess that's what Kyle was so upset about. She felt like it was such a betrayal.

Yeah, and I also, even though I watched last season, I still don't know like what Doreed's real issue is with Kyle. Okay, so she downplayed their friendship in a few interviews. Which is so rude, by the way. But of course, like something must have happened before that for her to downplay.

I thought Kyle's beef about BravoCon and the shot for Ray Ear Hilton's was so, like she's not right for that. Oh my God, it was so clearly a joke. And Dorit wasn't gonna answer the question. And then Kyle spilled on her. She's like, actually, nevermind. The fact that she didn't see that that fake answer

she gave about Kathy being first and Kyle being last was clearly because she spilled on her. Everyone in the room knew it was a joke. And it was, Kyle is grasping at straws. And that makes me think that she has really no leg to stand on in this argument with Dorit. And the friendship that Dorit painted, she was like,

she doesn't realize like- It's like, what is she gonna say? It's an, I don't know, when I saw that, I wasn't even like, it's about who does she like more, Kyle or Kathy. It's like, how are you gonna rank him third? Like, that's just, it's just like a shady question and she was able to get out of it by drinking

and then I thought she handled it perfectly. I completely agree. And I think the way Dorit describes their friendship from Dorit's POV, which is like, you know, it's very much like Kyle runs this friendship. And if I do or say anything she doesn't like, she won't talk to me for months. And I'm just like, I'm done feeling discarded.

And I feel like when you get separated, like you find like your voice a little bit and I think she's applying a little bit of what she's going through with PK to Kyle being like, you kind of treat me like a doormat. And like, when we came on the show, there was a power dynamic, right? Like Kyle really runs this shit.

So maybe we got into a pattern where like, I was okay with being sort of like your sidekick, doormat. And I don't like that anymore. And Kyle's like, wait, what? But this is how it's worked for us for so many years. But the whole downplaying on Amazon Live, like that was really rude. Yeah.

I was shocked. And so I'm like with Dorit, but she's like coming in with this energy to like everything, not just even Kyle, like just like different. And of course she's like going through a lot, but like, I don't know, she was just kind of like being- New energy. Yeah, and in some areas I liked it,

in other areas I'm like confused, but I guess, but even when she was talking to Cathy, like unloading about, she's just very, I don't even know the word, just like matter of fact, like not emotive. I guess that's how she's getting through. And like, there's a lot that she's dealing with, but it makes it hard to understand her right now, even though I will, you know, I will ride for her forever.

I really want to talk about this party. Oh my God, Claudia. I was, first of all, the fact that like everyone was making fun of Dorit's outfit. Now I don't know surrealism. I don't know if it was in theme or not, but I know she looked pretty. Like the fact that Sutton Strack had anything to say

about anyone's outfit, like seriously jail for you and everyone you know, she looked so stupid. Her dress was like ugly with the horns. Like I don't understand surrealism, but I know what's beautiful and I know what's not. And I know that Sutton looked not beautiful. Like it was so stupid. I don't know why everybody kept commenting

about Dorit's disc. I thought it was actually very chic. Like, okay, I don't know. Maybe it wasn't surreal. Sure. I thought she looked pretty. Like, isn't that just the baseline to look pretty? I actually thought Kyle looked amazing.

They all looked like clowns. So for one clown to point at another clown and say, you're a clown, it's like, hey, we're all clowns here. The party was like so crazy to me. Like it was so weird. I guess I don't know surrealism. I missed that day in art history class.

So maybe I'm just uneducated, but it was really weird. And it's like kind of is giving like one of these like weird Hollywood. When Jennifer Tilly showed up in the white chick's dress with the duck around her neck, I was seriously like, these people are so unserious. All the eyes on the dance floor. And everyone was wearing animals on their head.

And it was just, I didn't find it cool. And then that singer singing about her pussy. No, and that singer was seriously such a low budget Erica Jane, just ask Erica to perform. I know, and then also it's like, if Sutton went to anyone else's party and they like that singer was seriously like such a low budget Erica Jane, like just ask her to perform. I know, and then also it's like if Sutton went to anyone else's party and they had that singer, she would be like so nose in the air snobbish, but because it's Sutton's, it's surrealist.

And I have something to say that's really mean because obviously like I don't own a home and I rent my apartment like place, but Sutton lives on the side of a highway. They kept doing like zoom. Yeah, I saw there were a lot of cars. She lives on the 405. I guess so, but I just figured like it's part

of the mountain of Los Angeles. I was just, I just expected more from Sutton. Yeah. Is that bad? I don't know. These housewife parties like always make me a little sad because it's like, they're all getting dressed up just to like talk to each other.

And then they have these like people in the background who are like just so desperate to be on Bravo. Like it's just, and then they're like so dressed up. It's just like, doesn't look fun. It was really nice of Erica to say that Sutton Throws a great party. Cause like that didn't feel like a great party to me. The food looked good.

Yeah, actually the food did look good. The salad looked really good. They never eat. And I saw everybody had a plate. It must've been like a late party or everyone was really hungry. I thought that was funny too. And the only people who looked normal

were Garcelle and Cathy. Cause they didn't show up in costume. They just wore dresses. Thank you, hello. I thought Erica looked funny too. And the only people who looked normal were Garcelle and Cathy, because they didn't show up in costume. They just wore dresses. Thank you. Hello. I thought Erica looked great for any theme. Yes, yes. But she always like slays the house down boots. Now I, I just like really love Garcelle.

And I feel like in arguments, like I'm not always on her side, but when they were doing like, normally like if you come on and you have a whole like solo scene about your job, like seriously, I don't care. Like I do not care. But she's so like valid in being so proud of herself.

And when Erica was like, it was so cool to see that chair, that director's chair that said Garcelle productions on it. Like I actually felt like so proud for her. And I just recently saw coming to America for the first time. And I know that's how she got her start. And like, I actually really enjoyed that scene to be like a woman of a certain age, like producing films. Like, and you know what?

I'm working more than ever when like, you've of a certain age, like producing films, like, and you know what? And working more than ever when like you've always been told like it's over for you. She obviously has found a niche where she like created a production company and like she's being contracted by Lifetime to make these, okay, they're not like Oscar winning movies, but like there's a crowd for that and there's money in that. And so if she's just like out here banging out

X amount of movies per year for Lifetime, like that's huge money. She's like a single mom. Like I actually think she's so impressive. And I'm sorry, she's fucking funny. Like when Kyle was like not saying Morgan's name, like, are you kidding? In her confessional, she was like, I'll say it.

It's Morgan. Like we've literally talked about it for two years now. Like, what the hell are you talking about? Yeah. She's just, she's so real. And Kyle had Morgan on the show last season. They got tattooed together. And she called out like, well, you know,

your music video didn't help. Like sometimes she calls out my faves and I'm like, I need you to stop. But sometimes she's so real. Like, I'm sorry, you can't deny like that. She is actually such an amazing addition to this show. And like, she brings a level of like, she's like, are you, like these women don't live in the real world.

And Garcelle does, like Garcelle works for a living. She's worked for herself for a long time. So she's so like no nonsense that it's such a refreshing take except when she's coming for your faves. You're like, okay, slow down. Well, so that's my issue with Garcelle at the take except when she's coming for your faves. You're like, okay, slow down. Well, so that's my issue with Garcelle at the moment is that she's coming for my fave, Doreen.

And I find it so unwarranted. And she was like really mean to her last season. It was really unwarranted. So like that's like bothering me still. Even the like alluding to the robbery, like not being authentic was so, but there were so many just like mean things, everything Dorit says and does and where's like,

she's just like laughing at her like in her confessional being like sleeping cause Dorit's talking. So like, I don't like that, but I agree at this point, like Garcelle just says the thing that like everybody is thinking and she's actually like moving the show forward because they're all having like these real life squabbles, but she's the one like being like, well, we're on the show. It's Morgan, we're on the show.

She came on the show. She is a professional. Yes, so that is very helpful of her. But you know what, I had a thought last night. I feel like so often we're like so and so needs to leave the show. And then a few years later, we're like, oh, maybe they should come back.

I feel like we need to normalize people leaving and then two years later coming back. Like some people we needed a break from, you needed it, but like I could go for Rinna now. And just because I didn't want her to be back on then, like doesn't mean I was wrong for that then. Like I think she was going down a place, but now like it would be refreshing.

And I feel like that's actually something they should do more of, not like, oh, we fired them, they can't come back, but like some people need a pause. And we should normalize that. Yes, it's sort of like an age old dilemma that the network has where someone is doing their job so well at being a villain. They become so hated her getting booed at BravoCon,

so much demand for her to be fired. And you know what? That next season was horrible. Like there is this sort of necessary evil. And I agree, like a one year, two year break, because we need Rinna, honestly. Yeah, I would go for LVP. I feel like even every time we say

someone should go off the show, eventually it's like, oh, well actually if they came on right now, that would actually be really interesting. Normalize that. We don't have to reinvent it. You don't have to bring a whole new cast of Rahony. Bring back some of the oldies, greatest kids. Speaking of, I actually really like the new housewife

and I was reading her Wikipedia, cause when she was saying the CEO of Endeavor, I was like, oh my God. But that was like just the tip of the tail. She worked at Apple Music for many years, PepsiCo, and she had like very high C-suite level jobs at all these companies. Apple Music, PepsiCo, Netflix, Endeavor, like, oh my God.

And she's literally retired in what she's in her 40s, like insane. Like that's also a housewife we haven't seen before. Like we usually get like rich women with wealthy husbands, but often now we get like women who are rich on their own, but never from the corporate space. Like I've never seen like a girl boss and CEO before. I found her very interesting.

I would like to know more about her. And then I was like looking into her husband. He was just like, she was the breadwinner. Like he was like an advertising executive, like nothing crazy. So I need to see her house. I need to see her car. I have needs.

I think she's full time. Yeah. And we'll be seeing that. And that's exciting. And her and Cathy know each other? I do they? No, she said, I don't think so. Cause she was like judging Cathy

for taking out her extensions. But Cathy was like, I know you, boss. Cause she was like judging Cathy for taking out her extensions. But Cathy was like, I know you boss. I know, but that was a weird moment. It wasn't. That was a weird, I feel like everybody tried to make it weird, but I knew what Cathy was saying.

Like she's known as being like a girl boss and CEO. Right. I didn't think it was weird. There were a lot of weird moments at that party where like, I felt really awkward. Even like Doreen was making me feel awkward. I can't, when she walked past the table and like, stood there. I felt really awkward. It was a really awkward. Even like Doreen was making me feel awkward. I can't, when she walked past the table and like- So there?

I felt really awkward. It was a really awkward party. Not helped by the big dresses and the hats. Everybody looking so stupid. Yeah. Was there anything else I wanted to say about Beverly Hills? Beverly Hills. I don't think so.

It was like a fine episode. I just, I like the franchise. I like the ladies. It doesn't always have to be like the craziest for me to watch it is how I feel about Southern charm too. What I was going to say is because I watched that last reunion, I kind of feel like they, they were a little hasty

in letting go of Krystal Kong Minkoff. I think that like, well, I found her annoying. I didn't even realize she wasn't there. Yeah, I found her annoying, but like she was similar to Garcelle in the sense, like she had no loyalty to anyone. She was like call out things that made no sense. And on the reunion that I was watching,

she was first seat next to Andy and she was like calling out Kyle so hard. And like, I don't know, I kind of feel like we need that. No, I forgot about her. And she was really wealthy. And I liked that about her. So she's not on the season? No, she was not asked back.

I was more so thinking about the other new housewife who didn't even get a fair shake. Yeah, she also, like she started a conversation. I don't know if it was on the show or off the show about like, you know, trans people in sports, which is like a hot button issue. And she like wanted to go there. And I think that-

Bravo can't handle it. Bravo wasn't interested in having those sort of complex and dynamic conversations. So they were like, listen, I think it's best if you were just a one season wonder. Did she say something on the show? Cause I, I don't know. I didn't watch, but I know-

No, no, no, no. All that like stuff. So I think she was posting about it on her social media. Oh my gosh, bravo, like they're panties in a bunch. Yeah, like they can't handle any sort of real controversy like that. So I think that she wasn't a great housewife maybe, but the thing is, and what I learned-

But she never got a fair shot. With Eileen Davidson, it's like, you really need to give someone two years, a fair shake is two years. Yeah, I wouldn't have liked, and she was married. Maybe it's time to bring on the Davidson back, although I don't think she wants to be on the show. No, and you have to bring like,

you gotta bring back the crew. Her girls are not there yet. But until we see through this like Erica, Dorit, Kyle, like storyline, like maybe when they need something fresh, they should go back into the archives. I would really like that. Yeah, now I wanna bring something up that I'm afraid to bring up, but I would really like that. Yeah. Now I want to bring something up

that I'm afraid to bring up, but I do feel like we should push Dear Toasters to tomorrow. Like, I agree. I know, I know. And in hindsight, if we're going to continue recapping on Wednesday, let's move Dear Toasters to Tuesday. So you get it sooner. Or two, oh yeah, Tuesday.

Yeah. Yeah, yesterday we could have totally done it. We had our guests, but you know, next Tuesday. Yeah, so I think this week we swear to God. We will do it tomorrow. We will do it tomorrow. And then I think moving forward, Dear Toaster should be on Tuesdays

because I was thinking that last night, if we're gonna now do TV recaps of Beverly Hills every Wednesday, then that makes it difficult to do Dear Toaster. The cards can't handle such a thing and it makes the upload time longer and no, it doesn't make sense. I'm scared because we've like,

we've really alienated the dear toasters community. And we- What's the good news is that to tide you over until literally tomorrow on Patreon, there's a whole episode of dear toasters right now. 50 minutes, dear toasters only. Exclusive. And then when you finish listening to that,

after you've listened to today's episode, Turtees Q&A will be up. I think it's the right choice. And I just didn't want to rush through the Beverly Hills recap, cause it was a season premiere and I think it required like our full. No, you're speaking facts.

Also, who is Jennifer Tilly? I don't know her. We're just supposed to know her, I guess. Like they're acting like she just, the fact that the opening scene was Sutton and Jennifer talking about a surrealist party. When Sutton said, I'm taking them back to Spain, I was like, why?

It's the first episode. Why are we going to Spain? I checked the TV guide. I thought maybe this was the second episode because it sort of opened with this like casualty. Yeah, it was so weird. I thought they were going to Spain. I didn't realize she was saying she's having a party.

Oh, I just put together that's what she was talking about. Well, I was a little disappointed because I'm like, oh, Jennifer must be a new swirly and Sutton is driving to her house. They pass Cathy's house. I'm like, oh, Jennifer must be a new swirly and Sutton is driving to her house. They pass Cathy's house. I'm like, oh, we got a rich lady in Bel Air. I didn't find her home to be so impressive, not to be a bitch.

But I heard, I read somewhere, I don't even know where I was reading, that she's like very wealthy. Jennifer Tilly? Yeah. Let's just do a quick Google. Yeah, like are we supposed to know who that is? Something about her seems familiar.

Like Lala seemed to know who she was, but maybe she was just, she was like, I love Jennifer, but maybe she was just talking about the one scene that she saw. American Canadian actress and professional poker player known for her distinctive, breathy voice and comedic timing. She's in a lot.

She was in Liar Liar. She's in like all these Chucky movies, Monsters Inc. Oh wait, wait, I'm sorry. I see an old photo of her. I know who she is. She's an actress, yeah, classic. Yeah, she does look familiar. She kind of reminds me of like-

I know her. But she's also a professional poker player? Maybe that's where the money comes. Maybe. Okay, that's better. Was she on last season? No. Oh.

They just like jumped to Jennifer Tilly. Interesting. Weird. Very strange opening. I love Cathy's house is beautiful. When she was sitting there like with the Ivy and the patches and the glam and the rollers, like. She did look like a cadaver getting ready for a funeral. Just based on how she was laying and not moving in the IV

and like her skin was so pale. I was like, oh, she died. Like she literally looks like a dead body. No, I feel like that's like emblematic of like the women of Beverly Hills, not the show, but like the women where it's like, that is how they come to life. But when Sutton was like walking through,

or no, was it Dari walking through her house? And so we just got like a bunch of like different visuals of her furniture and shit. I was like, oh my God. I saw like a knockoff of her Ottomans at Home Goods yesterday. Absolutely gorgeous. Gorgeous.

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