The Toast - The Toasty Poets Department: Monday, April 22nd, 2024

Episode Date: April 22, 2024

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Good morning, Millennials, and welcome back to the Toast Happy Monday that feels like the Mondayest Monday that ever lived. It's so true because it kind of is, even though this week is Passover, and I'm sure you guys are feeling sad. You climb into bed and you start feeling sad. Suddenly you realize that it's Passover, the girls might be celebrating, and there might not be full toast this week. But there is because we're together.

There is because we're together and we forgot to take off and we had added obligations we forgot to take off the days but honestly if we were together anyways I might have added the shows back like if we're in your house I'm literally sleeping next door it's really it's not work no but it's it's blasphemous to be podcasting on Passover but is that Passover right now no not right now but you would think tomorrow there'd be no show but tomorrow there will be a show so your girls are and know what? It's also for the best because my God, do we have things to do? I literally created like an outline for today's show. Do you want to see it? Outline for the pre-Fast Five? Yeah. Pre-Fast Five. And then

also my outline on TTPD thoughts. Cause I didn't want to forget anything. Great. I'm glad. Cause that's obviously our first story. Of course. So let's just go back to the last time we podcasted together. We were getting ready for the Toastiversary party. And by the way, I didn't even mention this last week because we had guest co-hosts and I didn't want to be like,

you know, promoting my little RC project. Even though they all would have understood because they're all creators. And they're business women. And toasters

and patrons. Yeah. But we did drop the documentary of our Toastiversary party and I do think in some ways it was different from a vlog. Because someone else was filming us.

So there was like a lot of discourse here on the show about, you know, Jackie kind of dropped the ball with finding a videographer. But we ended up vlogging it like our usual way, phones and all. And let me tell you, I think it was our best work yet. Like really, Jackie edited it. Like I don't know, we'll get into like where I was that last week, like why I couldn't do it. But Jackie literally had so much on her plate last week and still edited it. Um, like, I don't know. We'll get into like where I was that last week, like why I couldn't do it. But Jackie literally had so much on her plate last week and still edited it. It was so good. People are lauding it. It's like some of our best work yet.

It was really cute. And I think because what made it a vlog documentary hybrid, we could call it a hybrid, a documentary of lockumentary. It was a vlog because it was filmed on our phones. It was a documentary because we had someone else like filming us as we walked through the party and everything. And usually we're doing everything on selfie mode. That's very vlog-like. Yes, and other people were in it. We fulfilled our lifelong dream of recreating our bat mitzvah videos where like this was like the trend back in the day.

Like if you grew up on Long Island and you had a bat mitzvah, the cameraman would like find all your friends and give them a microphone and be like, what do you want to wish Jackie on her special day? And we had that with all of our guests. And there's some real highlights in there Brian's in there Taylor's in there Simon Dr. Giese's in there Simon Huck is in there it's also a documentary because we had an external microphone yeah I brought my microphone so there's a lot and it was definitely a departure an artistic

departure from what we usually do and I really feel like you get a sense of like the vibe of the party and these are the people that we work with or like our closest friends and family and it was incredibly I feel like a word that's kind of going by the wayside steamy it was incredibly steamy what happened to the word steamy what happened to the steams it was incredibly it was also pleany we were also pleany looks you got to see it like a little bit behind the scenes of our partnership yeah that's right our party was sponsored by amazon you ever heard of it? Small company. So it was just kind of amazing. Just a small, small business.

I don't feel like you and I even like on a personal level recap the party because the next day, like everything just went into you were traveling. My trip got canceled, which we'll get into. Like we didn't even get to recap the party. For sure, except you did come over that morning while you booked your flights, if you don't remember. They were going to the park.

Yeah, I do. I remember. And I had that croissant. Yeah, but we were still, there was so much going on. There was so much going on. We really didn't get to properly recap. Okay. So what'd you think of the party? It was great. I had so much fun. I, my full body, like I needed an ice bath after I had like full body aches, pains. When I was going to bed that night, it was like 1am and I was so tired, but I couldn't fall asleep because my back hurt so much from dancing. Dancing and standing and meeting and greeting. Yeah but we were like dancing hard

because it was incredibly steamy. Yeah we listened to the greatest showman. We listened to Kelly Clarkson. We listened to awesome music. We drank awesome shooters. We pretty much spent the entire night soaking up each other's awesomeness. That's the best way to describe it. Jackie and I both gave you know sort of impromptu toast that is also featured in the vlog. We gave little speeches that are in the vlog. Also the party was at Zero Bond which I know for you you know, a sort of impromptu toast that is also featured in the vlog. We gave little speeches that are in the vlog. Also, the party was at Zero Bond, which I know for you is like just a regular night at McDonald's. Just sort of like a drop in the bucket at one of my local spots, yeah. But for me and for people viewing, like that's an incredibly cool spot with a lot of history on this show included.

A lot of history. That room, we rented like the private party room, has been frequented by many an A-list celebrity, Kim and Taylor included. I'm sure a lot of tortured poets department songs kind of took place at Zero Bond. It was an amazing party. I loved it. I can't wait to do it again next year. We'll probably do like a proper big party again at 10 years.

Agreed. So I'll start planning it now. Okay. I wouldn't do anything different. No, me neither. Just hopefully Amazon's on board again because we didn't have to do anything. Like, they planned everything. And Birch worked with Amazon to, like, get the coolest, toastiest decor from Amazon.

All of it is shoppable in our storefronts. Oh, and we made merch. Yeah, I didn't mention any of this last week. Yeah, well, we made merch with part of, like, our sponsorship, which they were, like, so excited about. So were we. Amazon is, like, this merch on demand thing. So we made tote bags, like, celebratory tote bags that you can literally buy on amazon and people like got them in like

because it's amazon like they showed up like an hour later it was really crazy no really like one day later um and people are loving they say like not to be rude it's the best tote bag we've ever made yeah because also the inside is like lined with black so like if you stain it you know no one knows so we had an amazing time but and you if you watch the vlog, this might be repetitive. As we were getting ready, you know, the Iranian regime striked, stroked. They had a stroke. They had a stroke. And they attacked Israel. And I was literally like leaving in 12 hours.

And all airspace was shut down. And no commercial flights were going in or out. And it was like really, really scary for a moment. And the next, I had decided in that moment just to cancel my flight. They'd been saying like, what about Iran? What about Iran? I'm like, if you guys are knowing about it, like it's not happening. It's fine.

And it's always like, what about Iran? They've been saying they want to wipe Israel off the map forever. So if you're always worried about Iran, like you'll never go. And I just feel like we're always talking about Iran. It's like all we talk about. It's always all about Iran. And that's hard for Trudy. Am I giving Iran?

No. Um, however, so I canceled my trip like immediately. Um, and the next day, like canceling my trip felt like such a loser thing to do. Like, okay. Like big, dumb, moronic American, like the people in Israel didn't give a fuck. Like they're just kind of conditioned to it. And they're so brave in the face of like such a men. Existential threats. Yeah. And they just like go on with their lives. It was like a, I saw a video of a flash mob the next day. Like they're just unbothered.

They have this like zest for life. And it's just so like canceling my trip because I'm afraid it's like so the opposite of everything they stand for. But obviously everyone was like, you can't go. And I agreed. I agreed. But I did feel like a big, big dopey loser. Also for a time you were canceled your trip because your flight was canceled. Well,

actually my flight was never canceled. The Israeli airspace was closed that night, but it reopened up in the morning and my flight was at two 30 the next day. So I could have went. Um, and now in hindsight, like nothing happened this last week in Israel. It was like, kind of, I feel stupid for canceling it. Um, but in that moment, I feel like I made the right decision for me and my family. And it was like, everyone was like, you're not going. And I was like kind of, I feel stupid for canceling it. But in that moment, I feel like I made the right decision for me and my family. And it was like, everyone was like, you're not going. And I was like, okay. So I wasn't going.

I will go. My trip is like going to be rescheduled. But then I had taken off this whole week. Jackie had done all this work to like book these, you know, kind of new, different guest co-hosts. And I was ready to come back to work. I'm like, all right, Jackie, you know, cancel them. The star is back.

And Jackie was like, take a hike. I did all this work and it's fine. Like, just go. I didn't want to cancel on my co-hosts and I was ready to come back to work I'm like all right Jackie you know cancel them the star is back and Jackie was like take a hike I did all this work and it's fine like just go I didn't want to cancel on my co-hosts and I was excited to chit chat with all of them so then I found myself Shannon was coming to my house to say so I was like certain and like Josh I was excited to like everyone there was a reason like no I'm not can't I'm not canceling my friend Mary Orton because I would never do that to her MFMO not canceling Lauren Elizabeth we have so much talk about certainly not canceling Stassi, the get of the century. The get of the century. Like on the heels of her new book announcement.

No, of course, of course. But I found myself with a whole week off. So Ben and I were just like, Ben also took off work. He was coming to Israel with me. We're like, all right, let's just like take a trip. And then I'm like, okay, well, if I'm going to take a trip, I'm obviously only going to go to Florida where Jackie lives. But let me spend a few days like outside of your house.

So the next day I just end up flying to Miami. Ben and I had like a couple of days in Miami. We're in Miami from like Sunday to Thursday night. And it was honestly delightful. Low key Miami fucks. I haven't been to Miami in forever. You were there a year ago. Okay. I'm glad you brought that up. Exactly a year ago. Ben and I took a staycation a year ago to bell Harbor, which like, isn't Miami proper. It's like a little bit different. And I remember then being like, wow, I haven't been't and then before that i hadn't been to miami in four years so in the last five years i've been to miami once okay calm down um let me tell you it's a fabulous place like let me tell you i don't know why i like i used to go to miami all

the time and then i stopped going and i feel like it's just a really well-run city like it's very clean me and ben were walking around at night during the day i didn't feel unsafe and i'm coming from new york where i'm like very critical of how things are run yeah um because we're being run into the ground and i was just walking around seeing they have these public gyms me and ben took these bikes like have i ever taken a bike in new york no we took like the equivalent of city bikes on the boardwalk and they have all these like gyms do you know them no it's like how there's a playground there's a gym and people come and they take such good care of it. It's like such a clean.

I was really impressed. I loved what I saw. And I got so much sun. I'm sure you guys are noticing I'm just sort of like sun-kissed and gorgeous. And I listened to The Toast every day at the beach. It was such a delight. And I really kind of have this new sort of joie de vivre for Miami. I'm so glad to hear that.

You should spend some time there. Yeah. It's not what you think. That's the thing. I used to go all the time and I would like club a lot. It reminded me of Vegas. There are so many different parts. Like I was actually there two weeks ago, but I don't think I was where you were.

Where were you? I don't even know. Like more suburban. I was filming something. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I was on set. Yeah. Oh my God. Is this the morning model modeling? So I really enjoyed having like a podcast to listen to every day,

which is, I imagine how our listeners feel. And so you're welcome. Um, tell me everything. I feel like I was really most excited. There was a lot, obviously the Mary Orton of it all was really kind of triggering. Um, but I was really looking forward most to you and Josh Peck because, you know, me, you, Josh and Ben are sort of like this group of friends slash nemeses. But I think out of the four of us, you and Josh are the least connected. Right. And I wouldn't even know if you guys like had ever had a conversation alone. No, I don't think that we had. What was it like? Because the episode was fabulous. It was great. He's such a pro and we had such great conversations.

I was ready to spend the whole time talking poorly about our respective co-hosts. I thought that's what you were going to do. I thought it was going to be me talking about Claudia and him talking about Ben. But he refused to say a negative word about Ben. So I moved on quickly. Let me tell you, those two have a real friendship. They talk on the phone. And he said this on your episode, that Ben hangs up the phone and says, love you.

They're literally family. Yeah. No, Ben, like Josh would never. And Ben would like Josh would never and he would never a word of it Ben would never plus he's also a parent and you brought the parents out of everyone oh yeah four out of five were parents and I also feel like Shannon is a mom because she's like so close like she's like me you are to Shannon as like Taylor is yeah her neighbors yeah so she loves hearing about mama ting so it's actually really nice and I feel like all the mam her neighbors. Yeah. So she loves hearing about mama ting. So it was actually really nice. And I feel like all the mamas listening

were really seen by all the combos because we were just like talking about classic relatable things. So that was really fun. And also Josh, you have to remember, like now he's a podcaster and just like friend of toast, but he's also been a celebrity for so long. Like he told me he turned down Dancing with the Stars.

Yes. And the Met Gala, right? And the Met Gala. Yeah. He tells the Met Gala story on good guys a lot it's like for him it's like his thing it's him it's me not getting in the cop car like it's his biggest regret it should be it should be snubbed and who invited him Hilary Duff right no he was in a mood no Hilary Duff is when he told that story and she was like shocked no or Hilary Duff invited him to the Vanity Fair Oscar party and he either did or didn't go there's a story with Hilary Duff the, or Hilary Duff invited him to the Vanity Fair Oscar party and he either did or didn't go. There's a story with Hilary Duff.

The story with Hilary Duff, he said, is when Hilary Duff was on their podcast, he told the Met Gala story. Yes, yes. And she wasn't shocked. But no, he said he did a movie that year that was like some like indie movie that was just like really cool and buzzy

and like the cast got invited. Oh. Also, what I didn't realize until later in the week is that Josh, you're gonna die. I remember in the Toastiversary documentary Josh, you're going to die. Remember in the Toastiversary documentary when I was talking about the movie The Wedding Ringer, how the groomsman who rips up his speech then... Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's like the word... That's Josh Peck. But I didn't see that movie. That's why. The Wedding Ringer? Was that... Kevin Hart? Yes, you did.

Bic? No. Bic Mitchum? Yes, you did. No, no. I feel like I've seen that movie because you low-key reference it all the time. It's so good. However, I haven't.

Yeah, by the way, just push it back and then move the neck up. Yeah, I think that'll help you a lot. And Bruno couldn't be more annoying. No, Bruno's mommy's angel. Look at him. He was so... Oh, my God. The thing about last week with guest co-hosts, everyone who came through my house was taken with Bruno.

Yeah, he's got that spirit. He was the star. Oh, Bruno. So who was on Tuesday? Shannon. Shannon, which just- Major drama, shingles, everything. We caught Shannon in the midst of like,

which is terrible for Shannon, but amazing for our ratings, in the midst of sort of this global medical emergency. I loved getting a firsthand sort of this like global medical emergency. I loved, loved getting a firsthand sort of narration from her. Yeah, and I was glad that I was able to provide support in any way that I could. I hooked her up with Bracha from Hasty Meds and IV drips. And so that was a really great resource for her.

And we also had so much fun because I caught her like in between hematoma and shingles. So we kind of took the town while she was here. We had a really great time. Wednesday was Mary Orton. She also came to my house, was also taken by Brew. We had a really great time. Wednesday was Mary Orton. She also came to my house, was also taken by Brew. Let me tell you something. I listened to Mary Orton's episode,

and it was painful for me because this is a person I so deeply want to hate, and actually on a real level, I really appreciate that Mary Orton, like the toasters, everyone's got a full in on the joke. Like, I hate Mary Orton, huh? I just want to say I've never met Mary Orton. She seems incredibly lovely. We've been, like, DMing. She came to the toast, like, donated her time. She was would send you a gift basket for your family like she seems like an

amazing person and we've been sending like fake hate her way and I feel like some people would be like losery about it but she's been like such a good sport she's such a class act and getting in on the fun and I just want to say like she's so good in my book Mary Orton that you know what MFMO is fine by me as long as it's not M BFMO my best friend Mary Orton well just wait she comes one more gift basket one more oh my god she sent something for everyone in our house oh no like the dog bowl yeah and then the toasters just like with the audio you guys I listened to it the audio was fine so she I listened to it too. It was fine. So she turns her head. Get over it. The thing is,

it's so incredibly generous of people to come on this show. It's an hour of their time. Especially Shannon came all the way. Mary Orton came all the way. She lives in Wisconsin. And it's really embarrassing if you're going to clown on people in the comments. Do that in your own personal lives.

Don't do it on our platform. That's not a place. No, seriously, I was embarrassed by you guys complaining about the audio. And to everyone who was like, the audio is fine. Yeah, she goes in now because her face is moving because we're talking yeah no like it's it's an embarrassment on us like you make us look really bad so don't do that ever again like it's really um it was shameful like some of the behavior

and it was giving like old 2020 energy where people were really former toaster energy it was giving um MIE mentally ill energy like just stop it really makes us look like it's embarrassing stop she was amazing and by the way I love the episode you know I looked at her Instagram when you first and I was like what in the world like I understood why you liked her aesthetically like could her home and her style and her everything be more beautiful but she has such a funny personality like very dry sense of humor wasn't expecting that from MFMO I was just sort of expecting like this sort of class act, you know, mom, businesswoman and like stylist.

What did she, did she do like interior design or something? Like on a personal level. Right, right. Um, she was hysterical. I loved the episode and I loved the gingham pan. I don't think anybody's ever wore a gingham pan on this show. No, but they should. Not me.

No, I would get them. You would. I need a link. I need a link. And then who was Wednesday? Lauren Elizabeth. Lauren Elizabeth. She's my girl. Oh my God. We had so much fun. Oh, so who was Wednesday? Oh, I would get them. You would. I need a link. I need a link. And then who was Wednesday? Lauren Elizabeth? Lauren Elizabeth. She's my girl.

Oh my God. We had so much fun. Oh, Mary Wharton. Okay. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. Lauren and I had so much fun.

We were podcasting forever and it was remote. So that's just like huge files. But I was like, fuck it. Like I literally, so Lauren and I gave birth around the same time. And like, I feel like we've been playing phone tag for the last few months. We like catch up over text, but like we do a proper FaceTime for months now so we finally got that it was so funny to just like vent about mama things no and I feel like the toasters really haven't heard from Lauren and since she stopped doing her podcast and so much in her life has changed like she really went

from zero to 60 I feel so quickly she's so headfirst like into mom she's like she's a mama there's a difference between a mom and a mama and she's a mama and it was so nice to hear from her I just love her like she's one of my favorites no we had so much fun and then on Friday I podcasted with Stassi and I was so glad because all week the fast five were really cramping my style and I wanted to do away with them and I'm like no like this is the show and they were all weekdays so it's super busy but by Friday I was like there's nothing I just want to talk to Stassi and pick her brain about everything. So we just had such a fun conversation. Her new third book was just announced and it's all about like all the conversations we were having last week about like being a modern woman now and a mom and a working

mom and a, but a full-time mom. And just how do you balance it all? And you kind of can't do all. Yeah. So it was a really, it was like a week of great conversations. I love that you did away with the fast five because like in a week or two, I forget when it is, I'm going to LA for the 5k. Jax is getting the week off. I've booked some amazing people and I hate being beholden to like people who do pop culture. Cause then we get the same crop. I want to just, you know, podcast with someone who's funny or interesting. And so some of the days I'm not going to do the fast five. And also because I'm in LA, I'm trying to do them the day before so that I can get them out early. And the day before stories, it doesn't work.

So you might get some episodes when Jax or I take some time off whenever. I think we should get comfortable with guests. Like not always being beholden to the Fast Five, especially if it's someone who's never been on or somebody who has a lot to say. Like I think it's fine. And it depends on the stories that day also. Of course. Of course if there are stories, you're going to talk about them about them but if they're not you don't have to like make shit up and I love that you didn't get into ttpd without me I'm not gonna lie like when Stassi's episode was no fast five I was like you know what good like I need to be here and I'm also glad that I wasn't on because of Taylor at

midnight and you know my my ass fell asleep so I woke up on Friday morning let's say I wake up what 8 30 to a double album, 31 songs and then I have to podcast and people will be like, what are your favorites? Give me your ranking. I can't do that. Now it's been three and a half days and I have something to say.

I've listened to the entire album multiple times. I have favorites. Now of course they're gonna change and I'm sure if I watch this episode in a year, I won't agree, but I have fully thought out thoughts. Okay, great. And I'm excited about it. Is that next on your outline? No. Okay. Toastiversary Israel. I wanted to go through the co-host. I love Miami, except I lost my Kindle in Miami. You didn't lose it. You left it. I left it

at the hotel. And such a crazy coincidence was Remy Bader happened to be staying at my hotel. And it was so funny because I saw her TikTok. And then I got there. I was like, hey, are you at the W in South Beach? And she's like, yeah, are you yeah are you I'm like yeah me and Ben are in the lobby having dinner and she came and sat with us and she was there with her parents and I literally like it's a big hotel but everywhere we went the next couple of days we were with Remy like we got beach chairs what happens at a hotel take a cruise we got Ben said to and Ben's mom Ben said to Remy's mom who was so funny he was like I feel like we're on a cruise it's literally Ben was in the pool with Remy and her mom we're I'm sitting next to Remy's dad at the pool.

We just couldn't stop seeing him. They're the people you meet on vacation. We just embraced it, you know? Yeah. It was so fun. But I left my Kindle and I texted Remy. I'm like, will you go into my room? I'll call the hotel.

I'm like, she got my Kindle. So, and she's back in New York. My Kindle is secure, but I don't have it here, which forced me very sadly to go to Barnes & Noble. Not sadly. We went to Barnes & Noble this weekend and it was so amazing. they don't have Barnes and Nobles like that where I'm from that's why we go to the bookstore a lot because it's really a feast for the eyes it was so great for the kids like yeah but also obviously like we love books but I forgot like all the other things

they sell tchotchkes games stationary I didn't realizees and noble is also really a toy store yeah the games and for me like i love board games i was overwhelmed by that section games i had never heard of honestly we needed a shopping cart not just a basket you should have seen us trying to carry everything the kids and the books and the wrapping paper and the toys and the book it was insane and i did snag the last copy of girl with no job the crazy beautiful life of an instagram thirst monster my debut memoir which is available wherever you get your books, but not at this local Barnes and Noble because they were like almost sold out. I got the last copy.

Sway. Yeah, from the humor section. They'll have to order more. Yeah, no, I was going to like, I didn't want to be obnoxious, but at the, and I didn't want anyone to know it was me. Even though it's her face on the cover and here she is. My face looks so different. True.

I wanted to just be like, oh, I just want to tell you, you know, this was the last copy. Maybe you guys should order more. I think they have that on the back end like when you check out I just wanted to alert them to it'll let them know it's sold out and then the last thing on my list oh so I got here on what Thursday night so Friday Saturday Sunday um and I feel like every time I'm here on the Monday show I give like a major shout out to the stay-at-home moms but I'm again feeling like even more sort of impressed by them. This weekend was amazing. It was a lot of work, you know?

And I didn't even do it alone. Yeah. I just wanted to say to the stay-at-home moms out there, like keep your heads up. It's going to be okay. Love you dearly. Am Yisrael Chai. Yeah.

It was amazing, but it was a lot. Yeah, it was. It was amazing. Like lifelong memories, core memories made. You agree? Yeah. No, that, but it was a lot. Yeah, it was. It was amazing. Like lifelong memories, core memories made. You agree? Yeah. No, that's what it is. It's high, high.

It's like a lot of everything. A lot of good, a lot of work. That's what I was saying to Lauren Elizabeth. It's like, I wouldn't say things are easy, but I would say that things are a lot of other things that they weren't when things were easy. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Easy come, easy go.

Like full, happy, full of love. Like when my my days were easy I wouldn't say they were full and joyful and full of love I was just like sitting in bed watching tv all so good good easy yeah but not everything else that a full day with the children brings I definitely feel full I feel you know like my back hurts oh and I feel full body sore because I've really taken my running up to the next level I feel like when I was in Miami I really committed to my fitness and I did all my runs for the week outside and so last week I ran five times outside which is just a lot for me I still haven't run the full 5k I'm like working myself up like I think I got to 2.8 um I'm gonna run again today but that's also why I feel weary I can't blame the. It's also like my physical fitness that's taking a toll on my body.

That's good, but ultimately will make you stronger. So I can pick the kids up, you know, for an eternity. So I feel properly caught up. Anything else? I feel like I talked the whole time. No, not much else. I saw you guys on Friday, and this weekend was good, clean fun. Yeah.

We need to talk about one more thing. What? Bruno? Yeah. Oh, my God. So on Thursday night. No, let fun. Yeah. We need to talk about one more thing. What? Bruno? Yeah. Oh my God. So on Thursday night. No, let me tell you guys my experience. Okay.

Me and Ben get to the house. We're so excited. I like run in. Seriously, like Harry's having dinner and I just like attack him. And Bruno was like at my leg. I can't even give him a notice yet. Like I'm really working on Harry. And I'm finally like, oh my God, Bruno.

And I'm shocked at what I see at my leg because in from my point of view Bruno has doubled in size I'm like they're killing him they are killing him he's to me he looked like a hog I'm like Ben do you see this he's like oh my god and then Ben picked him up he's like holy shit and you guys have been traveling a lot and I know Bruno spent some time at his neighbor's who he loves I'm like know, maybe Bruno's fitness and diet routine fell off. That happened to Theo like a lot when we would send him to his grandparents. His grandparents were always giving him special treats. And he came back like a big fetsel.

So I was like, okay, that's obviously what's happened. And I'm just shocked at this point. And I'm concerned because, you know, we know a lot about the breed. And they're. They have to stay fit or else it takes years off their life. Like they have a heart condition. It's not aesthetic at all. Like when I see fat Cavaliers on the street, it makes me sad. It takes years off their life. So I say to heart condition. It's not aesthetic at all. Like when I see fat cavaliers on the street,

it makes me sad. It takes years off their life. So I say to Zach, I'm like, you weren't home. Oh, you were podcasting with Stassi. I say,

Zach, this is, this is not okay. And he's dumbfounded. He's like, you're insane. Yeah. But it's hard to see it when it's your own dog.

And immediately came to mind when you told me, you came to my house one time for Shabbat, like when you still lived in New York and you were like, Theo is obese. And I'm like, literally, what are you talking about? I'm just like, Theo's really big. Or I would always tell you when I thought he looked big. I was always like taking him for runs or stuff.

Yep. So then I come down from podcasting and she's like, Jackie, how could you not tell me what's been going on? Bruno is so big. And I like, I know people can't see it in their own dogs, but I'm always worried that Bruno is big. Like I'm always looking at him like that, but still maybe I've lost perspective.

I'm like, he is like, he looks great to me. They were like, how much does he weigh? I'm like, well, he's, I haven't weighed him in a while, but his standard weight is 18 pounds. So me and Ben were like, okay, he's 23 to 25 pounds now, which obviously like four or five pounds doesn't sound like a lot, but on a dog, it's 30% of his weight. I'm like, Jackie's like, I'll go weigh him.

I'm like, he's going to weigh 25 pounds. And as we're walking to the bathroom, I'm like, wait, I'm like, I think you guys are just bugged out by his size because you've been with Romeo and who's so, so tiny and so light. You pick up Romeo versus you pick up Brew. Like, I think you just have lost perspective, but okay, I'll go and weigh him for you. We were like, no, that's not it.

So we all go into my bathroom. I weigh Bruno 18 pounds on the dot. On the dot. And like, to me, that was really crazy. Because it was the convergence of like reality numbers. Like you can't know with what I'm like, what I'm seeing. And I still can't really explain. I'm not ready to concede that I was wrong.

And I don't believe Romeo was part of the problem. No, it's literally you're used to picking up Romeo. No, I don't really explain. I'm not ready to concede that I was wrong. And I don't believe Romeo was part of the problem. No, it's literally you're used to picking up Romeo. No, I don't think so. No, that's exactly what it is. There even goes so far as to say, like, 18 pounds isn't his standard weight. Like, check his records. We're like, yeah, he used to weigh 12. Yeah, no.

But, like, I know it's 18 because it's always, like, a milestone when the babies are bigger than Bruno. Oh, that's cute. So I always do keep that number in mind yeah no I believe you I believe you just like it's crazy when your eyes and ears are just not agreeing with one another you know oh my god she made such a thing about it I'm like my boy is handsome as ever and your boy has really like we've been spending a lot of time together when I was still convinced that he was obese um I took him with me on my run he loved it feel free to free to take him. We've been, yeah, I got a, on Amazon, I got a hands-free leash. You like wear it like a belt.

So I'll bring him today on my run. We've been spending a lot of time together and he's really been bringing me a lot of joy. He reminds me so much of my baby boy, Theo. And he's really stepped up to the plate as like the patriarch. Yes. The canine patriarch of the family,

like since Theo has passed. Because before that like he was on his puppy shit like he was just little brother energy he grew up overnight and now he's he recognized that there were shoot pause to fill no and he's bringing me so much joy and i think um he's bringing me the joy i think i thought i would feel with tromeo now i posted on my instagram that you know bruno reminds me so much of theo and I'm like loving spending time with him and everybody's like well don't you have your dog what about Romeo where's Romeo when I was going to Israel Romeo was already scheduled to spend some time at his favorite place dog friendly living where she trains him and boards him and just where he behaves where he has the time

of his life yeah and I decided to keep that because he needed the training like the biting and the shitting in my house was not gonna work for me now I do really miss him i do i was thinking about him a lot last night especially here on now that you're here but was he gonna do go to the w i know i know especially on the heels of you know two days ago which was theo's should have been theo's seventh birthday i don't want to get into it um but yeah tromeo's not bringing me that sort of energy that bruno has been bringing me this week that's what i'll say yeah because he's in his lapdog era, whereas Romeo's not. And Bruno wasn't for a while. Bruno was a real high-energy pup for many, many years.

Yeah. Is Magnolia in town? No, Magnolia was also. Magnolia is with Romeo. Actually, I feel like Magnolia is at Emily's. I don't know where Magnolia is. Close your ears, Bruno. Las Nolias is not here.

Close your ears. I don't know why. Margot's always bringing Las Noleas everywhere She's actually really good about that Yeah and Bruno would love to see her Yeah We'll have to follow up Margo's here very exciting

The whole family you know doing Pesach together Let my people go Which really couldn't be more on point More ever present The more things change the more they stay The same history repeats itself. Let our people go. The hundreds of hostages laying in Gaza.

Yeah, I actually saw a really interesting post. It was about the day that Iran sent all those missiles, like over 300 drones and missiles, like, you know, meant to kill thousands of Israelis and Jewish people. And they were all shot down by the Iron Dome defense system. And also by neighboring countries who all stood up to help. Right.

And I feel like people kind of take that for granted. Like, oh, Israel has the Iron Dome, so, like, missiles can't touch them. But I read a post that said, like, the odds that the entire defense system, which is, like, run from multiple, like, outposts in the country, worked perfectly and in tandem and, like, shot there was one that landed um no and or like they were rerouted to like areas that don't have like people living there the odds that that happened are so slim like it's miraculous similar to the miracle of passover when the red sea split and i feel like people are just oh well they send drones but they didn't hit them no like those drones were meant to kill and meant to overwhelm the defense system. But

it works so well, not because it's perfect, but because it was a miracle. No, I thought you were going to reference. I like what you said, but a tweet that I saw that was really interesting. It's like the Iron Dome. And for those who don't know, this is sort of next level defense system that Israel has. It's what's kept Israel from being eradicated by all their enemies for many, many years. And every time- Because hundreds and thousands of rockets are even sent from Gaza every single day into Israel

and they are intercepted by the Iron Dome. So they don't have the intended effect that Hamas is intending for them to have. But if they did, like- Right, so a lot of the attacks that Israel receives are thwarted by this Iron Dome. So like, literally, I imagine it's millions of lives every year, given the amount that they're attacked in different stages of, you know, wars and stuff. But every, you know, attack is meant to kill someone.

But the fact that it isn't is because of the Iron Dome. And so the Iron Dome is obviously this amazing technical marvel. But it also gives, you know, people who don't support Israel and anti-Semites this sort of comfort in because less people die because of it. And so like they don't ever actually have to theorize that those hundreds of drones were supposed to kill thousands and thousands of people. They didn't, but they were intended to, but people don't think that way because they don't. Do you know what I mean? Yeah.

So it just allows like a more comfortable anti-Israel stance because you don't ever have to theorize those things coming true because of this amazing defense system. I thought that's the tweet you were referencing, which I really liked as well. Uh, yeah, also very true. And also then it's like Israel gets a lot of aid money and they use it towards building systems like that. Whereas in Gaza, Hamas takes all the aid and they use it to build tunnels and dig up pipes and use the pipes that are meant to give water to people use those to make rockets to shoot into Israel so that's where they're spending their money and Israel has this amazing defense system because that's where they prioritized their money so you know correct it's all about priorities man and my priority is just to deliver the best show

and we've dilly-dallied for 32 minutes oh I, I felt longer. No, and like we were going to Israel, like what, we could do another 32 on that, you know? So I feel like we got to get to TTPD. How are the other stories? Like irrelevant. Fine, fine. Fun fodder and it'll be fun to talk about after TTPD. So without further ado,

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You got a well? Yeah. So our first story is torturedured Poets Department Society. I have now officially started saying it correctly. Like, now that it's out and everyone's saying TTPD. TTPD is easy. Now I'm able to say it. The way that I feel today is like, you know, when you have nightmares that, like, you are

still in college and there's a test and you didn't study for it and you're cramming. Like, that was literally me this morning. There was so much homework. Like, this this whole album I started it on Friday we were listening in the car like running errands and it was just like not the way I wanted to listen to it I need to want I'm driving like I need to focus on the road Harry's just like play Cookie Monster I'm trying to decode lyrics like it's not happening and so this morning while I got ready but I didn't have like a morning of getting ready this weekend because we were just you know being wholesome so this morning while I got ready, but I didn't have like a morning of getting ready this weekend because we were just, you know, being wholesome. Um, this morning while I got ready, I listened to more of it, but still, I feel like I showed up to class. My dog ate my

homework and I feel seriously overwhelmed. Can I tell you also why you might be a little bit behind? Cause I feel like I listened to the album a couple of times through, but a lot of like the, the, uh, research and sort of like hooks getting stuck in my head is because it's all over TikTok and it probably hasn't made it to reels yet so anytime I was like on my phone not listening to the album but scrolling TikTok I was learning I was like the choruses were getting stuck in your head yeah and I feel like it's actually really shaped um my favorites because those are the ones going viral on TikTok and I will say with an album this long I've probably listened to it in full maybe three times, but I keep starting from the beginning.

So I really know the first half much better than I know the second half. So it's making me inclined to say the first half is better. Yeah. And those were the songs that we knew she was going to release. That was the track list that she released. Yeah. But it turned out to be a double album, 31 songs. And I think the big sort of surprise, not that it was a double album, is that actually

a relevant Joe is like not even in it. It's really about Maddie Healy. Yeah. He's the tortured poet. Yes. Yes. And okay. Question mark.

I've thought a lot about, um, and I've learned a lot too. Like I'm a big Taylor stand, but there are eras of her like dating, like even still learning new things about her dating history. Like I just found out she dated Cory Monteith and I feel like maybe I knew that, maybe I didn't. So I didn't know a ton about the Maddie Healy background. And so, yeah, she dated him after Joe for like a week and she wrote a whole album, question mark.

It's so much more than that. This is now the third time they've dated and she kind of goes back to him periodically after Calvin Harris, after Harry Styles and now after Joe Alwyn. And I think he's sort of this thread through her life. And that's also what the album's about a lot. Not just this one week period

where they were at Casa Cipriani. Got it. Also, it turns out Cardigan is about him. And she did say that at one of her shows. But now it makes sense. Like I'm the old Cardigan under your bed. You put me on and said I was your favorite. And then I guess you like put me under the bed again.

No, and like, okay, Joe Alwyn is really not that interesting as a person. I couldn't see him being a tortured poet. Like I think, you you know maddie healy's just sort of self-destructive he is you know and she references it a lot and i think fans of his know his struggle with addiction but she talks a lot about pills and heroin like it is a thing um and so that gives you more fodder you know you love someone with an addiction and it's makes it difficult and you could write more songs about that yeah i think the end of her and Joe's relationship like isn't all that interesting it's just like sad and it was time wasted and he like couldn't give her what she

wanted and I also think um because a lot of people are you know noting and I agree a lot there's a lot of anger in this album and the thing I what what we sort of learned from Taylor is that Joe didn't want to get married. And that was like a big thing. And Joe, I wouldn't marry me either. Pathological people pleaser. So does that mean he didn't want to get married or not married to her? Because those are two separate things. Yeah.

But this is a person she dated for six years. And I think it's the most serious relationship she's ever had. And I think she's not going to treat it how she's treated other relationships in terms of her songwriting. I think, honestly, it's more like respectful to Joe, which makes sense. Like this was her longest. It's basically like a marriage, six years. Maddie is this sort of, and also Joe Owen's like not famous.

Like she made him famous. Maddie really is like famous on his own Joe Owen's like not famous. Like she made him famous. Maddie really is like famous on his own. It's like different to like put someone at the center of the spotlight. Like I know he like acts and stuff, but he's literally famous because of her. And he's like a private person. His worst crime was just like wanting to be in a private relationship. Well, actually, it's sort of now through lyrics and things, it's sort of now confirmed that Joe cheated on her in Florida.

Really? Yeah. Yeah. But like this is all like fan speculation like none of this is confirmed yeah but the thing is i feel like this album and she's always been pretty literal and metaphorical at the same time but not not literal i feel like this album is so literal she wants us to know everything i woke up you were standing there, I'm looking at you, you said I don't like you. Like just so minute by minute. And I think that's the anger. Like she wants everyone to know what she's talking about. So if Joe cheated on her, like it wouldn't be unclear, I feel. And there are different lists floating around. Don't take everything I say as gospel. People are interpreting it differently. If he did did cheat on her I think this would be a slam out it would be

more right because then you have something like negative to say and I feel like when you date with some of these other guys like Maddie Healy it's like you date for a few weeks and then you see who they really are and it's like oh you're a monster okay cool when you date from someone for six years like you know who they are so if it doesn't work out it's not because they weren't who you thought they were it's just because it didn't work out yes yes another thing is what we didn't think we were gonna get is we got a few not a lot Travis songs so high school is clearly about Travis I you know you ball I know Aristotle like literally so literal so you play Grand Theft Auto with your friends like I'm sitting there watching you and your friends yeah

it's very literal not open for interpretation She wants us to know, especially with certain songs like Thank You Amy where the letters K, I, and M are all capitalized. There are certain things she wants us to know. Honestly, Thank You Amy needs to be its own story.

Maybe I'll kick something out of the fast five. Sure, sure, because I have a whole theory on it and I won't get into it then if you would like. Just table it. Let's talk about

the relationships first and then we'll see where the clock's at. Now, in terms of the album I can't say you know where it ranks in any of my things yet I haven't lived with it long enough it's very long and I'm at the place now where I feel like it could have been edited slightly but perhaps in a few months once I know all the songs I'd be like not a single song could have been left off what's funny is I feel like it could have been edited slightly sure it's a lot and I just feel overwhelmed

because I like because I feel left behind because I don't have the time to listen to all of it and everyone like has all these thoughts this one you know is pussy popping your time no so I so it's also coming from I feel like she should have edited because for you for me because I can't listen to all of it and I feel a little left out but then I feel the way of like when I listen to 1989 vault tracks I'm like why the fuck weren't these on the album so that was a tweet that I saw that was like you know Taylor like had so much success with her vault tracks so that leaving anything crazy Swifties that was me saying I don't feel the way that she should have edited it because in the past I feel like I wanted more okay and so I feel like that critic who has to who wrote under anonymous right someone I guess wrote like a not a praising review review of her album and they were anonymous

because they didn't want to deal with the harassment now I feel like the album is really long and you know by the way it's crazy swifties I haven't made a criticism crazy swifties okay I did did I make a criticism you've been like highly complimenting you can't really criticize something you look you haven't listened no exactly so the album is very um long and I think it's also very, you know, emotional. There's anger, there's sadness, there's pussy popping. And a lot of people are talking about album of the year. This has like been an amazing year for music. Ariana's new album.

So many people have an album. Cowboy Carter. Cowboy Carter. How does this play into that? You can't say yet. You really need more time with it. But I have to say, like, I don't feel like Taylor sat down wanting to write the album of the year.

Sometimes, you know, when she sat down to write 1989, when she sat down to write wrote Midnight she was like I'm here to prove something people think this about me I'm gonna give them this like you can tell I feel like this was just sort of this like emotional thing where think about all the things that happened like the ending of Joe the Maddie which was obviously way more chaotic and toxic than any of us knew and had this long history and then Travis like there's so many and I feel like she just sort of like threw up that's her way of processing verbal diarrhea and she just needed to get it out you know i also think she needed to build a bridge to whatever's coming next and it needed to it be very explanatory which it really is because i think not to talk about her

next era when she's just dropped 31 songs but i I'm sure she's already written it. Yeah. And it's done. But like, from where she left us, from Midnight to whatever's the future, like with Travis, a lot has happened. And I think a lot has happened for her emotionally that like this album is just, I'm letting it all out there. It's a bridge.

I do always think in the back of her mind, she's, you know, she's not not thinking about album of the year, but like, that's not why she does those things. And I wonder if you make a really long album, if it helps you or hurts you. I don't know. But like.

But I also think Ariana's album is a little too short for album of the year. I agree. I completely agree. Honestly, like give it to Cowboy Carter. Like for real. That one was long too though, but. It was, but not as long as this. Not as long as this.

And like there were some songs on there that were like, it wasn't a song. It was like an interlude. It was like 30 seconds. Interlude. So, um, wait, I had one more thing I wanted to say yes I also really hope and pray like when we got lover which I feel like at the time was criminally underrated and really has become one of my favorites it was this sort of pop happy joyful and I feel like she wants to write that about Travis but she kind of has to like let this diarrhea out like all the things

Maddie Joe everything um that's ttpd and it's very emotional and it's very dense and it's very poetic and it's somber it gives I didn't I didn't know what we were getting but this feels and people are saying it's Woodvale everybody thought there was everybody thought there was a third album after Folklore Evermore that it was three sister albums and she like never released it there's a whole theory on it whatever this does feel like the third and final part of that chapter. Unintentionally. It's not like this is Woodville that she's sitting on because this happened like after those albums were released. But yes, I was feeling reminded of Folklore and Evermore where again, that's kind of a

double album. And again, I love the songs and they're all really pretty. I did also feel overwhelmed. Oh, I didn't. Well, because she put it out in two parts and I didn't have children yet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was better. And now I'm just like well damn. Yeah.

Damn damn damn. We also need to talk about Charlie Puth. Right. So there was a line and it actually had got leaked and I saw it on Twitter and I'm like there's literally no way. Oh yeah and also a lot of you listened to the leaked and so you had did your homework early because you saw the test before the teacher gave it and so you were copying the test. She's right. So. You're kind of like Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift puts a lot of like big thoughts and ideas into the songwriting of a high school.

So, and like that's how she brought like Miss Americana and the Heartbreak Prince. People were always like, why she was writing about high school? It's like, it's not about high school. She's just putting it in those sort of metaphors. That's literally what you're doing. Lurping. Yeah. Charlie Puth.

So this line had been leaked. And I'm like, there's literally no way. The, um, you smoked and had seven bars of chocolate. We declared Charlie Puth should be a bigger artist. And I'm like, there's no way. And then it was what song is that on TTPD, which I actually really like that one's clearly about Maddie. Um, now does Taylor think Charlie Puth should be a bigger artist? Or is that only the thought a high person? Like, is it insulting to Charlie Puth? Or complimentary?

And hashtag, has Charlie Puth responded? I think you would know if he did. He must be freaking out. Yeah. I think it was complimentary. Okay. I don't think it was. I don't think she would punch down like that

it's really mean unless she has a beef unless like she knows like Charlie Puth said something mean about her one time and she like really hates him oh mate no but still you know then it would be like capital c capital h I think it was meant to be a compliment like I think when you're really high you have like these realizations that you think are brilliant no and Charlie Puth like I despise actually I will say I either blocked him on TikTok or he stopped posting on TikTok his I don't have like as much of a dislike for him as at one at one point it was such a prevalent thing in my life like he maybe he's taking a break or I literally blocked him on social media and so I forgot about him um where was I going with this song Charlie P Poops. Right. I understand the actual line.

Like he is this sort of once in a generation talent in terms of he has one of these rare people who has perfect pitch. He can name any note. He's sort of this musical prodigy. So I know what she's saying, actually. Like the line actually makes sense. But it was kind of crazy to hear. It was crazy to hear. But again, so literal.

So literal. Yeah, right. Every conversation they've had, I'm hearing about it. Yeah. Also, there is a song. It's the first song after her track list ended. Like, okay. And it was, I'm going to get you back.

Now, I hate to compare my queens, but not stylistically, but just in terms of the message of the song, it's almost identical to Get You Back by Olivia Rodrigo. It's the concept of, I want to get someone back in a revenge type of way, but also in a romantic, I want to get him back. What do I do?

I want to get him back, or I want to get him back. What do I? And so she's talking about getting someone back romantically, but also like, you know, keying their car. And it's incredibly similar.

Interesting. Do you feel like that was Taylor, you know, swinging back at, at Olivia? I have this, I think these two fucking hate each other. Oh yeah, no, there's definitely beef, but I don't think she would swing back with the same crime that she literally sued Olivia over. Right, right, right, right, right.

Like the grudge on guts people think is about Taylor Swift. Interesting. I don't know what the, I don't know what the intention is there. So for those asking, I will give you my top songs right now. It's obviously subject to change. Oh, we didn't even talk about the only collab is Fortnite. Right. I was going to go through each song.

And if you just want to tell me like. I might not have enough to say honestly. No, no, no. Not what your thoughts on it. Like what people are saying about it in terms of what it means. Like. Oh, honestly, I'm not there yet with my research. Like, I don't know.

Or not even people. Like what the lyrics are saying. No, like I don't know or not even people like what the lyrics are saying no like I don't know I don't like if you name me we haven't even talked about smallest man that ever lived okay fine you can go but I'm I'm really not familiar okay first fortnight with post Malone is like the single and the lead and the music video we got um two things to note of that first is that everyone's like kind of freaking post Malone looked really handsome he had all his tattoos covered up he was wearing like like a trench coat and he just looked totally kind of the opposite of his aesthetic which is grungy you know and people were like okay people were really into it um also she has tattoos on her face in some of the album art she's in the music video art she has his tattoos like the same exact ones um there's also a lot of visual parallels to a

1975 music video it's like almost. So this is like very clearly. Okay. I happen to love this song. It's also the lead single. So it's the one we'll be hearing on the radio. It'll be everywhere in due time. Okay, cool. And that's on my list of favorites.

Great. Tortured Poets Department. Love. That's the Charlie Puth line. Um, that's obviously about Mattie Healy and I really like it too. My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys. Not on my favorites list. Neither was TT my boy only breaks his favorite toys not on my favorites list neither was tt oh no ttpd was on my no it wasn't actually oh but you said you really liked it i do really like it my boy only breaks his favorite toys is not one of my favorites but

also i don't know it yet i can't stop singing these songs as our guesses i know i was down bad you were so sad down bad i. I believe Maddie Healy. I don't know. I don't know. So Long London, the sad one, track five. The thing is, is like, Maddie and Joe are both British. But London has sort of been this Joe Alwyn character. Yes.

London boy. So I think it's safe to say. And it's such a sad, sad song. And that's how you would write about the ending of a six-year relationship. She's like, desperate sounding. Like, I think that's Joe. that's how you would write about the ending of a six-year relationship she she's like desperate sounding like I think that's Joe but daddy I love him okay so that I love this song first of all it's on my number one I'm obsessed with it that's a TikTok I made you film with me yesterday yeah and when she said she's pregnant you should see her faces people are saying she's breaking the fourth wall okay so this song a lot of people are interpreting as a kind of direct conversation with some of her

mentally ill fans like when she was dating maddie there was like an open letter and people burning their posters and it's like there's a line in there it's like it's my name to ruin not yours like it's very much like fuck off let me live like you enjoy my music that's amazing you having any sort of commentary on how I live my life is delusional like it's really I feel like it's a statement on you know toxic stanhood but I could just be interpreting it that way when I listened to it I felt and I don't think this album has a lot of it but I felt like it was more just kind of you know when she was singing songs about like other situations yeah folklore and evermore are very much like she watched a movie or a book and wrote about that love story it was no reflection on a

personal experience i feel like she was talking about a relationship where you're just like so so caught up in someone and then just kind of like went running with it like if they lived in a small town like how it would be so i don't agree because i feel like when she was writing folklore and evermore romantically there was not much going on in her life it was sort of this like peaceful there's not a lot to write about when you're just like in a really long-term happy relationship. With all that's went on, I don't think there's one song on this album that isn't about a personal experience, like for real.

No, I agree with what you're saying. I'm just, I feel like it's about her personal experience, but then her just like kind of going off with it. If they were in a small town, the way that she felt felt about this person like placing it in a different time and place so the swifties have pretty much like come to the conclusion that like this song is a direct like hit towards like the toxic fans but i like your interpretation too okay then fresh out the slammer yeah i feel like that's one i like can't remember how it sounds right now you know no but it's like about rebounding with right right right right right right right right Florida so there's like a lot of Florida in in um Fortnite there's a Florida reference Destin Florida what the hell happened that's why people think Joe

cheated on her in Florida yeah why would Joe from London be in Destin no offense to Destin it's a lovely place but it's very weird. And who has a timeshare? No, I don't know. Whose timeshare is it? No, and like timeshare, rich people don't have timeshares.

Yeah. I don't know. That's why it's, I don't think it's so literal. Right, right, right. Guilty as sin?

Question mark. Honestly, like if you played it for me, I wouldn't recognize it. It's slipping through the cracks. It's slipping through, but that doesn't mean it's bad. I just haven't,

like, it hasn't hit my TikTok yet. TikTok has completely influenced my, my, my likes and my dislikes. I don't even dislike anything you know what I mean yeah oh my god you're I know I'm so right you know this we're operating out of fear yeah uh who's afraid of little me proud top two yeah top two I love this song so much like it's brilliant yeah I can fix him no really I can and I've listened to all these but only once like i

can't really i can't they've all been pleasant to listen to i didn't skip any i'm not um remembering much yeah lamo love of my life i was your wife till you took a knife right to my chest charity's version um this is a really sad song. Like super, super sad. And it's like love of my life and then loss of my life. It's really sad. Because that's one of the big themes

and that statue, I've only seen a few things as you can tell that I keep harping on. You know the statue that crumbled. Yeah. And so that's kind of like

her and her like womanhood and fertility and all those things. Yeah. It's like the loss of her life. Six years. Six good years six good years good years yeah i can do it with a broken heart that's my top four i can do it with a broken heart but daddy i love him who's afraid of little old me and fortnight i can do it with a broken heart it's a jogging song first of all it's a pussy popping song the that's one is

about joe when she first started eris tour first of all we didn't know until like, not deep, but decently into Eris Tour that her and Jo had broken up when that announcement came out. And they obviously had been broken up for a while. So from the very beginning of Eris Tour, this like kind of monumental thing in her life, the hardest thing she's ever done, this sort of Everest,

she's also dealing with like a personal tragedy. And she's getting all these accolades, people saying it's like the most impressive, amazing thing. And she's like dying inside. That's what the whole song is about. But the song is super upbeat, sort of mirroring. She's like up there dancing three hours and she's like dying inside that's what the whole song is about but the song is super upbeat sort of mirroring she's like up there dancing three hours smiling laugh mirrors ha and she's like dying inside yeah the smallest man who

ever lived which is like the dissiest track on the album yeah it's pretty fire songs about me i'm killing myself yeah it's really nasty um and this is also perceived to be about Maddie. Do you think that Maddie will now like write songs about her? I feel, and now everyone's going back into the whole catalog. These two have been writing about each other for years. They just weren't like main characters in each other's. When people think of Maddie, they, he did it Halsey for a really long time. And that song, her best song, his smoke, his jeans, and it's a color blue. You know that song? Yeah. Colors. Colors. Thank you. Um, that's about Maddie Healy. And that's sort of like, his smoke his jeans and it's a color blue you know that song yeah colors colors thank you um that's about maddie healy and that's sort of like when i think people look back at their both of

their discographies they don't i don't think of maddie for a lot but now people are going back and recontextualizing a lot of music yeah she sort of opened up the floodgates yeah so it's like songs on here that we think yep that we can't place it may be about not about someone else but you know just something that we don't know yeah okay say it to my chest the alchemy i'm not sure i feel like that one's about travis but i'm getting them all confused i'm sorry clara bow no now we're in the part now we're in the latter half yeah okay so then so high school which we talked about that's about Travis I hate it here you know that one's going viral because that lyric about the 1830s oh okay that was a weird lyric

when I heard it I was like question mark yeah and so when you finish the lyric in the verse I actually like the message like nostalgia is useless because you're always going to look back on things with rose-colored glasses um like all these period pieces we watch, it's like horrible fucking things, but you, you romanticize it. And it was more of a statement on nostalgia and actually really liked the message, but that line gave me the willies. Like, I feel like she, she couldn't say that like she wanted to live in the 1830s and not like mention, honestly, you know what I feel like it was a reference to. So in timeless,, the vault track from Speak Now. We really were timeless in the 1500s.

So there's a lyric about the 1940s and some girl made a very viral TikTok being like, me singing this song knowing I couldn't relate because in the 1940s, my ancestors were being like walked into gas chambers. And it was like funny. It wasn't like shade at all but it did sort of signal this really bizarre thing where like we reference and we romanticize these periods of time that were awful yeah no but I think that with the 1830s and so I think she made that caveat like without the racism because like maybe of something like that just hearing word racism. In the middle of a song. In like, in sort of a very light,

poetic, slow ballady song. It was like, sort of this anvil. Like, what? Yeah, but also it's like,

it's slavery. Yeah, no, it's horrible. And then I think there's things that are romantic about the 1940s and there's also

the horrible things. But I think one of the questions is like, what in the 1830s were you jazzed about? Right. Like seriously, what was, like name, like. She said, yeah, if she could live in another questions is like what in the 1830s were you jazzed about right like seriously what what was like name like she said yeah if she could live in another time it'd be the 1830s without the racism or the um like sort of dowry how you would get like sold off for marriage i forget how she phrased it which is obviously not good for women from that like

what's the glamorous part of it like like the dresses i honestly don't know yeah i don't like that line. Yeah. It's like people are getting hung up on it. But the thing is, and I forget who it was, I think I said this to Margo, is every now and then, and I feel like it's happening a lot more frequently with Taylor, is she'll have a lyric that's sort of like jarring and it doesn't like flow lyrically. She uses words that are just sort of like, they stand out because they're not words that you use in songs like racism. But then they just become normal. Like then you just sing them at a concert but when you listen to it for the

first time there are certain lines that really stick out and you're like that's not supposed to be in a song and that's one of them yeah and now for thank you amy is that a second story let's do it because it's we're to lose time on the cards. It's been an hour. Okay. So story number two is Thank You Amy, the song that is perceived to be about Kim Kardashian. However, it's not even perceived because it's called Thank You Amy

and the letters K-I-N-M are capitalized and the rest are lowercase. It's literally she wanted, she's like, you bitches need to know this song's about Kim. Also lyrically, I actually really like the message of the song. It's about having this, you know, nemesis who you literally fucking hate forever, but being able to see them in a positive light and not really, it's kind of a song about healing. And so when people are like, get over it.

Why is she still singing about Kim? If you listen to it, it's actually about, you know, moving on in a sense, because it's not so much about hating this person forever. It's about seeing this person as being like, you know what? I'm so happy in my life right now and actually wouldn't be right exactly where I am right now if I hadn't went through this really hard thing with you so it's about you know almost appreciating them uh that's part of it I don't think it's about moving on I think it's about I'm gonna stay right here here's the silver lining and I'm gonna be glad for that but uh not gonna forget everything else yeah and so half the people are

like yes kill kim we hate and the other half are like oh my god get over it happened five years ago it wasn't even kim it was her husband um and i've thought a lot about this because obviously like we're kardashian stans i'm taylor's biggest fan and i think in this moment you know for many years if you would ask me like who would you choose who would you choose who would you choose i didn't know what to say i feel like now I think I would choose Taylor, like my Stanhood, but that could change. Stanhood is, you know, ebbs and flows, but I think we all know I'm choosing Taylor. Um, but I'm also, I know thyself, like, do I let anything go? No. Like if you cross me, like I'll literally never forget it till the day I'll be talking about it

on my deathbed. And there are certain people, I think everyone has it like their Roman empires. It could be big or small, like a friend who betrayed you in middle school who you never forgot or someone who, you know, crossed you in work and years down the line, you never forgot it. And yeah, of course we're all taught therapy, heal on, move. Yeah. Yeah. I really do like about Taylor specifically as it pertains to this one thing with Kim is this is her enemy for life and she's not letting it go and she's not moving on. And you know what? okay too you know a degree of grudge is certainly healthy I think two things where it's like this is her Roman Empire right you know she's not gonna let it go I think some people feel like when you think back to what happened I think some people would be like it's not that big of a deal and I feel like Taylor it for Taylor

it was the biggest deal she took a year off but at the time like you didn't need to take a year off but it just like forced all this chain of events in her life and it just always reminds me of the saying like the worst thing that's ever happened to someone is still the worst thing that's ever happened to them it might not be the worst thing that's ever happened to you maybe you've had it worse so you're kind of like get over it but still like it's the worst and hardest thing that ever happened to them yeah and it's their Roman Empire for a reason and And now of course, like people are re bringing up the, the feud. And when I think of the feud, I think of the phone call of course. But I also forgot about that like art installation where they had like naked bodies

made of everyone. Like that was really weird. Yeah. But that's not Kim. But Kim went and like took pictures and like put it on her Instagram and like, remember it was on her Snapchat. Oh, that is really weird. But like imagine if somebody made like a nude body of you. No no no no like I didn't even think about that as part of the feud but that is. But then people are bringing it up on Twitter I was like oh yeah that's another part of it and you know Taylor's very she's not like a emirata who's like her body is like freeing the nipple. Taylor's like the total opposite she's like old school conservative like seeing a picture of her in a bikini which we've done like twice in her career is like the craziest thing. Yeah but then I wonder why there's not this energy also for Kanye.

Yeah. Well, to me, Kanye is this sort of like disgraced person. Like there's really not more that could be done. You know what I mean? And Kim is like still, Kim's like a billionaire. Kim's doing better than she ever has. Yeah. Yeah.

And I think Taylor's very like woman supporting woman. So like to get it from a man whatever but I think like you know it hurts more coming from a woman for sure but isn't it also then like to blame the woman more than the man it's not right it was his lyric true I'm just saying like I do think it's still both of them but yeah for some reason it's become Taylor versus Kim yeah because you wonder what it was his lyric and his recording of the phone call but like Kim was the one who posted it Kim was the one who did the snakes Kim was the one who sent everyone after like and yeah I don't know I don't know you're right I see both sides I see both sides but I also feel like she's like kind of

written about Kanye and dealt with that but that was also about the VMAs not about the lyric yeah and then you also forget like it wasn't just they had the history of the VMAs like it's really kind of been this like years long so yeah I could see someone being who doesn't know everything being like oh my god enough already but when you really go back and visit the context like I get it I have an enemy you know whom I literally like hate yeah with every fiber of my being and I will I don't I there will never be a day where I wish this person well yeah and I think a lot of people have that and they like hold it inside me like, yeah, no, I'm over it. It's okay. Yeah.

It's okay not to be okay. And your version of it is like talking about it or we'll do like an episode or something. We were just talking about it. Referencing it. And her version is writing songs. So yeah, it's going to be on this album. It might be on the next one because it's like still something

that's inside her head. And that's okay. Yeah. Why do you think she did Amy like that? So the message at the end of the song is, you know, she's screaming, fuck you, Amy, fuck you, Amy. And at the end she says, thank you, Amy. It's like you learned to actually see this person made you better for whatever reason.

The challenge was good for you. And so it's going from fuck you to thank you. And I think she saw there was a K in thank. So she's like, I need to get I-M in there. Honestly, I don't know. Yeah, because Amy. What other name? Because she's spelling Amy weird. It's A-i-m-e-e because she needed the i what's another name that's not kim that has i and m in it samantha like you know miley nope the m comes first okay

i'm sure she thought about it hard and long and then was able to land on Amy. Spelled in the, you know, alternative way. Well, I had a theory that also maybe Amy was like her childhood bully. And now she's like putting the two together. Because it said like in my hometown, like it still does talk about like growing up things. So like maybe Amy and Kim are like the two bullies of her life. And I really need people to stop like making videos. Like Thank amy is about dumois thank you amy is about the media like they're theoretically she literally says it spray tan statue kim is in like stop and

that your kid will come home singing this song so a lot of people are also like you know taking moral high ground here being like don't bring north into it yeah because the lyric is so i change your name and any real defining clues not and like real defining clues kim no so i think this song is like no and one day your kid comes home singing a song that only us two is going to know is about you but that doesn't sound like it's the future no and also and everyone knows it's about her because of the kim yeah i don't know so maybe it's not about kim or maybe this no but it is why else would the letter i know but why would she say only us she was we all know it's about her i do want to say though i like i really

like the song i just wish she didn't capitalize it because we would have been able to figure it out it's not she's not mincing words it's very clear spray tan um we know who else yeah um and and also i said your words still ringing in my head ringing in my head like the phone call ring oh right no it's so obvious who it's about easter egg and I just wish she didn't put Kim's name in there because I feel like it's giving Kim like a lot of attention and credence when it's like you're the most famous person in the world right now like you're there was a time where like you know she kicked you down and now you're so many levels above like you're this global superstar like it's really the Beatles you know they're

comparing you like to put her name it's like you're kind of better than that no I I don't even think it's that as more so it's like just kind of corny to capitalize letters and make it so overt like keep the art yeah keep the subtlety you know your fans are going to do the work for you agreed so I I really and she knows that so why yeah I don. I don't like it. And I like the song. I just wish the letters were like, but also everyone's freaking out with the letters or caps. Like maybe that's why, but people would like,

no, because it would always be like, right. Like 99.9%. It's about, there's always 0.1%. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. That 0.1%. So just a lot of questions and a lot of answers. Need time. Need time with of answers. Need time. Need time with the album. Need time for me. 31 songs.

Like, you know, give your local influencer and podcaster like a minute. Yeah. Yeah. And anyone who's like already with their dissertation and their faves, like either hasn't slept. Yeah. Or is lying to you. Yeah. And I'm going to say it's the latter.

Yeah. Because even so, like music, you need time, especially when it's a new sound. I do feel like a lot of these songs, it's like that pop synth. But it takes a minute to adjust to and to find out what stays in your head. It's so funny. When me and Jackie were in the car running errands listening to music, I was just like, whenever I hear a new song, I hate it. And I think that's more so my, you know, we always joke that Triti hates change.

Triti listens to the same. I literally listen to the same music. I watch the same TV shows. I hate doing new things. Like I'm very much a creature of habit. And that apply, when I hear new music, it like scratches me in the wrong way. I'm like, go back to the song I know. Go back to, I literally, that's why whenever Taylor releases new music,

I always find myself having a renaissance with the previous album. Because there's comfort in knowing the lyrics. That's why I only recently. You're like, I like this sound, but I want to know it. Thank you. Yeah. But that's why when a song like hits on the first one, that was like the Ari song, We Can't Be Friends.

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Attended a party. Their song came on. They started doing their choreography, and it was seriously amazing. This is David Beckham's. I know he has a destiny to fulfill as a soccer star and you know, he's doing really big things. But to me, like his destiny and his fate is to capture iconic Spice Girls moments

as they happen and share them with the world. I agree. I feel like it's really crazy how the Beckhams have had such a long career and I feel like we weren't really like alive and conscious and living in the UK when they were, you know, posh and becks.cks and I'm sure that was huge but it's really crazy how they're still so A-list and I feel like they've had all these different phases of their careers

and now they're in this sort of like you know really rich older you know kids are all grown and then of course the Nicola Peltz Beckham of it all like they're in this and then the documentary the documentary I think like gave them like a new wave another life even though like if this had happened before the documentary like it would still be major news but people are just absolutely loving the two of them since the documentary yeah like do you think I started following her since the documentary I didn't follow her before do you think there would have been as many paparazzi stationed outside the party like because her walking in on crutches and then she I don't know what happened to her foot but she obviously like has a broken ankle or something and then he carried her out on piggyback and the photos are amazing do you think there

would have been that many paparazzi standing outside her birthday party yes okay because also it was in London like Tom Cruise was there they're also like so famous here but I bet it's even more in London yeah yeah so I think always heightened but now it's just on steroids and the girlies their song played I love how they embrace and they're all good. Like they're all still friends. People are like, when's the reunion? Like, I don't think we need a reunion tour. I think like this is enough knowing that your fave girl band

grew up and they all look unbelievable. They all seem so happy. They're still close with each other and they have so much like love and nostalgia for the good old days. Like that's enough for me. I agree. I think it's good.

It's so cute. When I saw this video, like seriously, so cute. And you could see like, that's enough for me. I agree. I think it's good. It's so cute. When I saw this video, like, seriously so cute. And you could see, like, David's, like, so proud. He should have, he, like, I felt like he felt funny about filming them and then turned it back to him. And it was, like, a very short video. Like, we need more. They could never make me hate David Beckham.

Like, between his love of Judaism, which he was, like, raised Jewish. His dad is Jewish. There's, like, a story there. And he loves it. He's so proud. Between his love of Judaism, his love of his wife, obviously his insanely good looks, my love of the movie Bend It Like Beckham. And then that viral moment of him waiting in line for like seven hours to go wish the

queen well when her, you know, when she was dead and they had like the coffin. I don't know what the procession is called, but they leave the coffin out in like a public square. And it's like people fly from all over the world. There's thousands of people. And I'm sure he could have cut the line. He's David Beckham. No, he has such respect for the queen.

He waited, waited, and he was crying, and he brought his son. Like they just couldn't make me hate this man. No, never. Nicola was not at the party. Okay, let's get. But like she was with her grandma. And I think really all is well. I, there was a time where they couldn't make me think that anything good was going on.

Like I was so convinced. Oh, Nicola wasn't at the birthday party and it's like this big party what else you have going on like unless you were on a set where you couldn't leave why wouldn't you go to the party I don't feel that way I don't feel that way I think now that they're good I think there was a time when it was bad but I think a lot of people can relate to that like planning a wedding is stressful um hating your in-laws during the wedding planning process and then like you move on like it's over you look back on it with rose colored glasses. Like it's good, it's fine. And also, this might be like a crazy thing to say.

I feel like Nicola Peltz Beckham has like been a socialite for a really long time. But I feel like she's like wanted to be properly famous for a long time. I remember her like doing projects. We really knew about her like from the Beckhams. And I think that- And Bella Thorne.

But the thing is that was like niche. That was niche. And we knew it because we're freaks, we really knew about her like from the Beckhams and I think that the and Bella Thorne but the thing is that was like niche that was niche and we knew it because we're freaks but America didn't know Nicola Peltz Beckham and I think she wanted America to know to know her and I think once the Beckhams had this sort of renaissance she sort of started seeing her in-laws like a more positive light and like really being open to having a sort of rapprochement she watched Beckham and she was like they seem great no that's not what I'm saying that's not what I'm saying I think she's using them no no no I think it gave a favorable thing like oh you know what if I just got along with them and they're nice people like whatever that they created my husband who I love and you know they're the most famous people like like I think she saw and she

was like you know what because they did especially after the wedding and then the documentary they became newly famous in a new way and I think she saw and she said you know the mass appeal I've been looking for could be right down the street yeah that's what I think okay I'm surprised why she missed the party though she was with her grandma and she's very close with her grandma but like she could have gone to grandma tomorrow yeah but also like for us it's like oh my god how could you miss Victoria Beckham's birthday party when you're like at that level it's just like a party it's one of a million parties it's not the biggest thing maybe she didn't realize it was gonna be so like big and iconic she's like oh they're throwing a party I'll miss this one I'll

be at the next one it's like oh no this was the one and the mass appeal she was looking for was there right there right there you live in your one yeah anyways very happy birthday Victoria HP day it looked awesome she looked amazing really all the Spice Girls looked amazing I love those girls those girls raised us those girls raised us and they all turned out to be good role models like nobody went off the deep end you know what you're right like leave them alone are you ready for our next story yeah which is some surprising breakup news at least for me I don't know how you feel about it but Claudia's doppelganger Victoria Fuller and Greg Grippo have broken up so they are both Bachelor alums

Bachelor Nation stars Greg Grippo and Victoria Fuller are officially done so he confirmed the report that they broke up after one year of dating he was on a podcast and he said it's sad to be honest with you it's really sad he said I just want to respect her during this time and not go into detail on anything but we definitely ended things so I don't know Greg I didn't watch his season I know like he was one of this he was like he was like the Tyler Cameron of his season and he was on a season like right after we stopped watching of course I know Victoria Fuller she's like I love her she's one of my favorite people to follow on Instagram same Chase Rice who remembers that like that was crazy and I weirdly just started following them because I follow her and they were so cute and everybody loved them and I was like that's so great but I just like I don't know him but I ended up like

loving him and I love her and they were very low-key about their breakup like it just sort of trickled out I've only been broken up for a while yeah like there was a report that they were broken up I don't think they confirmed anything and then this was like the official confirmation he talked about it on the podcast and to me, this is a great loss for like Cupid. I really liked this couple. I liked their origin story because it was kind of like them against the world. I think she got engaged on Bachelor in Paradise

and two days later was like, bye, I'm dating Greg. Like the most eligible bachelor from the franchise in recent years. Like you can't touch me. And they got so serious and were together for so long that it was like, oh yeah, we can't touch her. No, and I feel like this is also a huge loss for the franchise. That's like desperately trying to come back.

Between Gary, like this is, it's been a bad week for them. Yeah. I just feel like Victoria Fuller is just one of those girls that it's like what Victoria wants, Victoria gets. She'll bounce back. I'm not worried about her in the slightest. Like this, I feel like was Victoria's call. By the way, so many Victoria's in the show today.

It's a great name for great women. It is a great name. It's a really strong name.ias in the show today. It's a great name for great women. It is a great name. It's a really strong name. It's a powerful name. It's a powerful name. Like Queen Victoria, my fave. I agree. I think that this was Victoria's choice.

Like she's just that type of girl. She has that sort of energy. Yeah. Like, oh, if Victoria wanted to be with Greg, they would be together. Correct. And if Victoria wanted Greg to pack it up, he's gone. He's gone and crying about it on a podcast. Correct.

You don't see her out here like slumming it on podcast. No, she just like got a new dog and she's like, hey guys, what's up? Should I date next? I was DMing with her. She was sending me some, um, some worship songs that she thinks I would like. Oh, that's so great. Yeah. And I, like, I didn't want to say anything, you know, but you knew.

Well, yeah. Like I had just read about it. So I was just trying to be like there for her. And like, I was sort of, the thing is like, I don't think she needs anyone or anything to be there for her one thing about Victoria she's has always been and will always be fine I think yeah she's good but still I'm sad so when I climb into bed I start feeling sad correct our fifth and final story is actually just like a really funny saga that has to do with one of our favorite subjects. Ourselves?

No. No, it's like probably you will never guess it. Okay, go. New York City rats is what it has to do with. Oh my God. I'm so glad you're bringing this up because I read this story. It was like a week ago. Not to like date you with an old story.

No, with rats? Yeah. Prison control? No. Oh. No. Oh, okay. Well, what I was going to say really quick and i was thinking

about this story before bed last night did you see and they've actually spoken about this a couple of times historically about doing it to help eradicate the new york city rat problem is disseminating rat birth control like where where rats congregate you know the subways it's not a bad idea putting birth control control everywhere to cut the population. And I thought it was brilliant. And apparently it's an idea that's been floated over many mayoral terms. And nobody's ever done it. Why?

I don't know. And I just wanted to come on my platform and say I endorse the idea. Yeah, I don't see why it's a bad idea yet. But sound off in the comments. Why shouldn't we give rats birth control to control the population? But what were you going to say about the rats? So this is kind of a long saga with one of the worst people on the planet let me think again bill de basio no no okay who keith mcnally oh this fuck so rats were seen scurrying on video at his restaurant balthazar let's just give a little context to who keith mcnally is i feel

like people don't know it started with james corden that's when we first heard his name thank you i forgot about that association now in hindsight justice for James Corden so Keith McAnally is this like restaurateur who's like he claims to be the owner of a bunch of like well-known New York City restaurants and then one of the times he was getting canceled somebody did the deep dive he's like not really an owner anymore he's like a partial owner or whatever so he like lies a lot about his um background but he's made waves a couple of times yes he was the one who who uh accused James Corden of like yelling about eggs he was also the one who wrote the most like nasty thing on October 8th I forget what it was um every celebrity who like goes to his restaurants flocked it was like Chrissy Teigen Jessica Seinfeld like

everybody was writing the nastiest things he wrote the craziest Instagram post and he's always like writing the most honestly like brain dead bad takes on his Instagram he's kind of become famous for being like a troll. Yeah. And so last week he wrote about Jeff Bezos, his wife, Lauren Sanchez. Oh yes. And he said, does anybody else find Jeff Bezos, his new wife, Lauren Sanchez, absolutely revolting. This is like, so I don't even want to repeat this. He's horrible. He's horrible. So anyway, read it. People should know how disgusting he is. What an ugly and fucking smug looking couple they make. Is this what having one thousand billion dollars does to people? So then this week people were in his restaurant and they saw rats at Balthazar. And he's saying that they were unleashed and planted in his restaurant

after his Lauren Sanchez diss. Oh, my God. Like victim complex, first of all. Yeah. Second of all, he's awful. Oh, he just says the most like awful disgusting things like tell me you're jealous without telling me you're jealous I'm jealous of Lauren Sanchez but even I know she's like beautiful and lovely and has done great things for Jeff Bezos and I'm a hater to my core like yeah I'm all I'm all for hating but like this is really mean spirited and ugly like really ugly and to be honest like I could you know wax poetic about how having rats in your restaurant in New York, like the best restaurants do.

Like it's just, you can't exist. It's like a rite of passage. It's sort of like a rite. Like you, like. Like Ratatouille. Not that I'm making it okay, but I'm saying like, if I wanted to come on here and defend Keith McAnally, I could. Like every restaurant, even the best, cleanest health department A, it's unavoidable.

It's just a part of the culture. But yeah, Keith McAnally definitely is dirty and disgusting. And all of his restaurants are dirty and disgusting. Yeah. department a it's unavoidable it's just a part of the culture um but yeah keith mcinelli definitely is dirty and disgusting and all of his restaurants are dirty and disgusting yeah uh page six reached out to him about the video and he said a suspicious man of about 40 came nervously at balthazar bar last night around 8 30 after paying for one drink he suddenly left very quickly leaving an upturned bag which five white domesticated mice ran out from he also alleged that one of the bartenders who noticed the whole episode ran after the man but failed to catch him oh rats no literally literally me when i'm lying stop making things up and like just no but that's like actually such a

good defense like if someone saw like the thing is ready for this a mouse i'd be like oh my enemies planted it and if that actually did happen this you know fuck cock story he just sort of made up they would have a sleigh he would know he would have it all on tape yeah he wouldn't know but like and he would release the tapes and that would be a sleigh I'm sorry if you're gonna like insult people and in such a disgusting way and that's your revenge like I kind of love that I love that too but here's another thing you're telling me that if at this fabulous New York City restaurant somebody came in flipped over a box and mice ran everywhere and the bar it's obviously a chaotic scene the bartender goes running the mice run you're telling me this wouldn't be in page six an hour later like

this is something like a story that local tabloids like page six would eat up we would have known about it would have been on video like please stop lying like seriously you're yeah I hate this man hey and everything I learn and see about him is against my will like I don't actively go out seeking like stop stop he's just so thirsty and like desperate and nobody gets that better than me but I would never stoop to this what does it make you think about the James Corden situation now because he really got dragged through the mud for this because his wife's eggs had eggs in them and she's allergic to eggs yes and he yelled at someone said Keith McNally said Keith McNally it definitely makes me look at it.

That was my first piece of information that I saw against my will about Keith McNally. Now, knowing all I know, this person's obviously a compulsive liar, an attention seeker, and it makes me feel bad for James Corden. And Keith McNally knew exactly what to say, because if you're going to say that a big, rich celebrity attacked a small, poor waiter, no one is going to come to Keith McNally's defense. No one could. I mean, James Corden's defense.

Like, no one will defend yelling at a waiter. It was the perfect crime. It was the perfect crime. And I just know James Corden, like, he has a wall of darts. And it's a picture of Keith McNally. Thank you, Keith McNally would be James Corden's song. Keith McNally is to James Corden as Kim is to Taylor.

Because he really, and he, like, it was so strategic in the sense that people were getting, like, a little fed up with James Corden. He didn't do anything wrong. He was just like everywhere all at once and likability is a prison. And it was the perfect timing. It was the perfect crime to accuse him of to really bring down James Corden. Yeah. Perfect storm. So justice for James Corden all's to say. Yeah. I like that. And what did James Corden ever do really? Except bring joy

in like a positive that could be like an annoying kind of way but that's not a crime. His wife is allergic. Right. Right. And he tried to kill his wife.

I feel like I just took the biggest duty ever. Like I had so much to say I feel like I said it all. Yeah. No. No stone unturned. And I enjoyed being

you know back in front of the flamingos with you. I'm loving the flamingos. We've spoken at length about you know someday in the future the near future i love them so much and it's really making me by the way why don't you start podcasting from here we could have different until i get flamingos who cares but you don't even need flamingos i would change that into something new i think also the colors of the palm leaves like it's not our colors from a colorist. Oh, I agree. I think this really is just like fun and bright

and something about that translates to being a little dull. Not to hate on the palm leaves, they've been so good to us, but I'm just having a renaissance with my mingos, as Shannon calls them. You should start podcasting from here. I think I'm going to. I really enjoyed it last week.

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