The Toast - The Turnt Lives of Mormon Wives: Monday, March 16th, 2026

Episode Date: March 16, 2026

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It's Jackson, Claude and neighbor show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Monday. Spooky. We're back. Spooky were back.

I had such a weird dream. Like, I actually haven't felt normal since. And, like, it was like an embarrassing dream. Last night. Yeah. So Ben gave me two tickets to Wicked. And I invited Gary Gianetti, like, obviously. Of course.

And I remember it was at 7. And Ben was also getting home from a work trip. So I was like cleaning the house, like getting ready for Ben to arrive until I realized, like, I got a text from Gary. And for some reason, I was like texting on an iPod Nano. And he was like, are you coming? I'm here. And I literally stood up Gary Genetti. And I felt so bad.

And I was like, oh, I'll come. And he's like, no, forget it. And he just left, as he should. It was terrible. And so I woke up with such a pit. Like, why was I dreaming of Gary Genetti? We were just talking about him. Like a week ago?

Yeah, but he was just in your mind. And he's not like somebody who's in my mind a lot. He was on your mind. I felt so bad. What's worse than that? No, what's better than waking up and none of it happened? Yeah, of course. I had to re-acclimate myself. Not only was it a dream, but I never even ended up inviting Gary. Sometimes I'm in a dream and I'm not enjoying my experience and I realize in my dream.

You self-actualized? In my dream, I realize it's a dream and I'm like, oh, who cares? And you know what? Much like Susan Boyle, we dreamed a dream. We did. Of time gone by. And I guess we're sharing our dreams now. That's what we join this podcast.

We share our hopes in our dreams. We do, but we don't share our sleep dreams. Well, I thought that one was like culturally relevant that I could bring it up. I stand by that like that was like good podcast conversation. I know. But when you bring up your dreams in podcasts in life to your friends or family, like don't. You better eat with that. But I think that mine just sort of applies here.

Okay. Because like it's Monday and it's like, ugh, you know. Well, yes, very ugh of a Monday. We had a very busy weekend. We watched the Oscars. We went to a party. We did. Yeah, we did.

My aura ring was like, are you dancing? It was a weekend for me where I did not get out of my jamas, and it still applies because we went to a pajama party. So even though I went out, I went out in my jamas and my robe, and I did not leave my jamas all weekend. Now, I know it sounds crazy that we went to a party because we, like, literally just had babies. But thankfully, Erica, whose party was, like, decided to throw a birthday where the theme was pajamas. The whole theme was like Wonderland, Dreamland, and everybody wore pajamas.

And like cozy vibes. But like dancing. And amazing music. Dancing whilst being cozy. Amazing food, cozy vibes and great music because her body craves pit bull. And I'm not going to lie. When I got the invitation, I'm like, that's weird. Like I hadn't ever thought I'd never been to a party where like the theme.

And I wasn't sure how it was going to go off. And let me tell you it went off without a hitch. I'll be copying. When you got the invitation, you said, that's not a theme. Is that what you said? Yeah. And I said she would have been better off if she did famous couples throughout history. So Ben and I could go as Romeo and Juliet, obviously.

What did we just say is famous couples throughout history? Love story. Yes, love story. The show Love Story is alternately titled Famous Couples Star Out History. No, not even the whole series that he's producing where he's going to be highlighting

famous couples throughout history should be called that. And they obviously need Drew Barrymore to play one of them. For sure, Elizabeth Taylor. Sure, it works. Or like Cleopatra. It works.

Yeah. I think Elizabeth Taylor played Cleopatra. I think that's why I associate the two. You know, they say that Elizabeth Taylor is going to be Taylor-Swer next single from Tiloas. And I feel like she definitely shouldn't do that. Please know.

Please know. I also feel like with Opelite and the fate of Ophelia, like, that was a lot of commercial success. And probably the most commercial success she's going to have with this album, which, like, now in hindsight, like, I can speak and sort of understand that, like, it wasn't that good. So I feel like she should just take the W. You know, she got a couple of TikTok dances, a couple of radio hits.

And I think she should move on. I think she could squeeze one more. out. And I do think it could be a song that's not like life of a showgirl with Sabrina. Like, it could be wood. Honey. Oh, yeah. Actually, the album's kind of good. I guess, like, it could be honey just because, like, I don't like it. And that's what she loves for her singles. Like, bejeweled an anti-hero. Anti-hero. So, yeah, Taylor. Let's talk about anti-hero. Taylor often has this, like, terrible track record of choosing the worst songs from her. She will write, like, actual

masterpieces of albums and then put, like, one bad song on it and decide to make that song, the radio hit, the single that everybody knows. And that's why people think like Taylor's music is a good because they think we are never getting back together is like the best that she can do. Or they just think that like she doesn't have that many hits and it's like the hits aren't the hits. We're like, do you know Peter? No, you don't know Peter.

No. You know, hey, Stephen? No, you don't because it wasn't a single. That's on you. A couple of things. One, we kind of have a major announcement. We do. Yeah.

So like as I say, you probably read about it like all over the trades because we're all over the trades. We're like going to be at an event. Like we're doing an event. Dear Media IRL, which was an annual Dear Media event, is happening in New York this year. And yeah, we're going. It's going to be a live podcast. It's going to be very turn, as the kids say.

And would you define turnt in this capacity? I just want to say, I need everyone in the comments to pop off my fucking dick. I'm like, Claudia's using the word turn wrong. Well, no, no, you're understanding it wrong because I've been saying it for years. Turn means like turt up. This one is turned up. We're getting turned, like turnt up. Sometimes when I say turn and it's like use context clues.

Right. Do I have to spell everything out? Sometimes what is turned. One word can have more than one meaning. Of course. Just like rain. Correct. When I say something turned in like a negative, it's like, oh, it's turn.

Like it's like messy and weird and like not good. Yeah. But in this case. Use context clues and stuff. I really don't feel like it will be turned in the sense that we're turning up at Dear Media, IRL, in New York City and May 16th of Webster Hall. And they're not billing it as like a sort of WWE event, but the good guys are going to be in attendance. So we're all going to be on stage together.

there are a lot of other podcasters, but like specifically the good guys, it might get physical. That's what I'll say. And we could ask to, like, program our show and their show and, like, do some stuff together. And, like, perhaps we just get in the ring and we duke it out. I'm down. Like, I obviously take on Josh and you take on bed. Oh, of course.

I can't get on bed and like. Of course. You know, marital privilege. We put each other on their shoulders. Yeah. We play chicken. Fight to the death. Tickets are available.

Go to Dearmedia.com slash events. For tickets, more information. It's happening in New York City, like Jackie said, at Webster Hall. it's in Dear Media by night. So it's like a really fun night with lots of comedy, cocktails, podcasts. And of course, chaos. Or as the kids say, turned.

And when someone's really turned, they are the president of Ternesia, as Brian Kelly would say. And if we're looking for the proper definition, bark up Brian Kelly Street as he invented the word. If you're in the area, you need an excuse to get away,

girls trip to the city, tickets are on sale. Today, dearmedia.com slash events. Events, events, I want to go to events invite me to your events. Speaking of events, last night was a big one. Yeah, the Oscars. We will recap in the stories. And beyond that, you know what? I have to give myself a pat on the back. I had sick. My kids were sick this weekend. And I did not turn on the screen for them. For them, but for you? Oh, yeah. For me, I watched the Oscars when they went to bed last night. But, like, I'm sorry, getting through a sick weekend with children. Like, we didn't leave the house. We were in our jamas. And I did not put on the TV. Good for you. That's like a milestone even for me. We always, like, do TV when they're sick. But, like, it's just then it's like, well, then they'll always want to be sick. And they still, their spirits were. hide. They wanted to play. So I was like, okay, we're going to play this weekend out. We tore the house upside down. My nightmare. Upside down. Like seriously, that's seen in the cat and the hat

before he brings in his machine to clean it up. Yeah. That was my house this weekend. I need that machine. Yeah, you do. I need that one and thing two. Yeah. Oh, I did also not turn on the screen for my child, but for myself quite a bit. Like nap times, night time. I made a lot of progress in secret lives and Mormon wives. And on Friday night, when we were like, I'm going to watch, I mean, Ben was like, let's watch a movie. I'm like, sorry, I have to watch Seeker Lives and Mormon Wives. And he was putting up, like, such a temperate interim about it. Let me tell you, if I started watching without him, he would be so mad. Nobody has, and I'm sure if you want to hear it in the good guys, he'll tell you all he thinks about the first five episodes of Secret Lives and Mormon Wives.

Yeah, he can find out a month. He's obsessed and, like, he hates Jordan. And now he's using it as like a slur. Like, he put on a shirt and he was like, do I look like Jordan? He's hate, oh my God, it's actually such a good season, but I feel like it's a bad season for Taylor, Frankie Paul. Like, I feel like you're going to struggle watching it because you really, um, champion her. I came on episode three. I started last night, but I can, you know, see what's happening here. And yes, I just don't understand how she's like heartbroken over Dakota. When I thought we left it in last season with the betrayal of sleeping with your mom's friend.

But I just feel like the feeling of like being so hard. heartbroken over a human being who has let you down so many times that like and you just like love him like it's just very like middle school to me so that's what miranda high school miranda was saying like there's something actually deeply broken yeah within taylor um and so her going on the bachelor like they're talking about the bachelor a lot obviously it's all synergetic they're talking about dancing with the star is a bachelor and bachelor premieres tomorrow right today today right i do not have high hopes like it's she is not i don't maybe by the end of the season i'll see but i think it actually gets worse because And I think she also sleeps with Dakota.

The night before The Bachelor. Like, this is not a serious person. I actually saw people like a discourse on TikTok of people saying if they were going to tap someone from Secret Lives to do The Bachelor. It should have been Miranda. Now, Miranda's kind of boring and like gives a little bit of nothing. But she is very like stable. And I think that if she were to like start dating or I don't know if she dates, it would

be in a more serious way. But she's not like a star. No. I was actually thinking she's like she's just a character. She's the only person that they've really added. And she doesn't like add that much to the show, but she's like another body and she's someone to film with it.

And with the swinging scandal, she was like a big part of it. And she like Chase is now part of dad talks. So like they're necessary, but like I don't know that she could carry. But is just the only other single one. I guess. Layla is currently single in real life,

but in the show when they were casting. She was with Mason. Yeah. Also like Taylor, I just got to the part where she like had her breast augmentation three days before the reunion. Insane.

Like literally she's like walked in. I thought she was having a consultation and then she's like on the operating. table and crying when she woke up and I understood her crying like she that's like where Dakota should be by her side or the person that she loves and like to go through that alone and then literally have to get up in two days and go to work in a dress that you don't own like borrowing from Jessie like that was crazy and I remember at the reunion her dress was like didn't fit her and usually like I feel like at the reunion especially housewives they bring like three looks

everyone has to be cohesive you get like it's a very like Hulu hasn't mastered the art of the reunion in many ways and they keep talking about the reunion. and I said this last season, I'm going to say it again. It is too much breaking up the fourth while too much talking about the show and not enough living off the show. I actually don't agree because I'm a little bit further along than you. And my complaint is that we're five episodes in and we're literally just like a couple of days after the reunion.

Like move on. And I know a lot happened with Demi and stuff. But like the whole first half of the season is about the reunion. Yeah. And it wasn't in a or even a reunion. It was a Duncan refresher commercial. And they kept bringing up. There was more Duncan in the season.

And I officially do not care about Demi and Marciano and Jen. And what Jen said about DeMe and Marciano. And I don't care. I don't care what happened. I don't even care if they have a baby together. Like I don't care. Yeah. Do we have a Salam House story?

We don't. We were going to recap it at the end. Okay. So, yeah, just in case anyone hasn't watched, we'll pause here. Okay. And we'll just catch up at the end, even though that was like pretty much. No, but I've watched it like a normal, not podcasters pace. Like, you know some podcasters?

I was talking when Natalie Vod. all was here. Well, they do the most. And she said that sometimes they have to like watch it on like one, two speed to like get the information. I do wonder how like podcasters like the next morning will be like season recap of Salamo. Like I'm just enormy. Or people who like write up articles about the season like they get screeners. Oh they get screeners. But seriously like the day, the hour after Slamo premiered, they're like Taylor and Dakota slept together. Yeah. That hasn't even happened yet. It's annoying. Me neither. It is annoying. But. I guess, you know, it's hard work.

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the full-body nourishment that they need to grow into healthy adults. Thank you. You're welcome. Our first story, Oscars recap. Yes. So we'll do the show, the winners. Yes. Conan.

Conan, let's start with Conan. Let's go in order of chronology. Chronology. He didn't bother me. Like, I feel like his stage time was not a lot, which I think is a good thing for all hosts. It's like even if it was, you know, someone I loved, like, you don't want the host up your ass. Yeah. And he didn't do like a lot of like stupid silly like skits.

I thought there were so many bits. There were so many like... Bits, it's like singing and dancing and ping pong with Chris and Bell. But they did so many like produce bits like SNL where they had all these packages. And I was like, what's with all the bits? Oh, that didn't bother me either. Except the one at the end I like didn't understand and I was about to come on here and be like making outrage about it. But apparently you need to have seen one battle after the other.

Because at the very end, they did this little skit. And it was like the head of the association being like, Conan, you did so good. You're going to be the Oscars host for life. He was like, for life? That's amazing. And like, yeah, let me show you to your office. Put him in his office. They're like, wait here.

I'll go get the key. They lock him in. And then the vents, like toxic smoke starts coming out. They kill him and put him into an incinerator. Now, I haven't seen one battle after another. So my immediate thought was like, are we cosplaying the Holocaust? It was gas chamber, then incinerator, cremation. And I was like, looking on Twitter, I'm like, where am I fellow people being outraged?

Apparently, it's a reference to this movie. That's exactly what happened to Sean Penn. Spoiler alert. Oh, and then like when Conan died, they were. placed the name on his door and it said, host for life, Mr. Beast. So I guess in the movie he gets like, you know, replaced by like a young hot thing and that's supposed to be Mr. Beast. By the way,

give it to Mr. Beast. Agreed. People who saw it, the movie, like, thought it was funny. For me, I was like, deeply uncomfortable, but now I understand that I was wrong. It was a reference to the movie that won best picture. So maybe they had a bunch of packages filmed of how the movies ended. Or they could have just like looked at the results and only had to film one, you know, save themselves some time and money. I personally tuned in

to see if Timothy was going to win. Like, I watched the whole thing because, you know, it's my job and I love to, like, you know, be a part of something. But what I really wanted to see was Timothy. And of course, Conan made a joke about ballet and opera. I thought it was funny. Like, it was very lighthearted. He addressed it. I didn't think it was like...

Timothy and Kylie laughed. And it wasn't a big deal. No. The thing is is that what Timothy said is not a big deal. Everyone's acting like it is and they look stupid, but, like, it wasn't a big deal. So the cute little joke, like, I liked it. I don't know if you saw Misty Copeland, like, did a surprise performance during one of the sinners performances.

Yep. And I just felt like, okay, we've really... really lost the plot. Like, was that designed? Oh, you felt like it was designed to be a swipe at Timothy? Like, only because Timothy, you've decided to highlight ballet. Like, you don't actually care. And it's like, okay, Timothy said this one thing, like, buried in a three hour long interview.

We just discovered it. We're all fake mad about it. And it's like, what he said wasn't, like, hurtful. It wasn't, it was just his opinion on something. And because everyone in the room has deemed that opinion to be, like, bad, we now have to, like make a whole spectacle and embarrass Timothy. I'm like an important night for him. I thought it was so stupid and I like Misty Copeland like yeah, show us more ballet. That's great. But like why only now? I thought it was like really like they're proving Timothy's point that you guys weren't showing ballet.

Correct. And that you weren't uplifting. It was just like I'm like, oh, I thought because I thought Conan's little thing was perfect. And it was actually a funny joke. And it is like the big news of this Oscar season stupidly enough. Every red carpet host was asking everyone their thoughts on it. Like who cares. Josh Groven chimed in, which you know what, he's an opera singer, so... He's allowed to have an opinion. He's allowed to have an opinion, and he wouldn't say anything shady, and he said it's been an accidental positive for the community, and he's like, and I'm not going to say more than that, because you would be a

loser to do so. It was great to see Josh up there doing his thang when he sang. Shout out to People Magazine for doing a little game. I think they were at like a pre-Oskers event, and people were walking the red carpet, and they were like, what is your favorite opera? Oh, yeah. I saw them say, what's your favorite ballet? LA. And a couple of people like, thank God remembered the nutcracker. Histered up the nutcracker. But nobody said anything besides that. And most people said nothing.

Right. That's proving the point. So that like was a little annoying. But the thing back to Conan, it was just like a couple of times me and Ben were like like a chuckle. You know, it wasn't a groundbreaking comedy, but it was just like, you know. Also the opening sketch I of course did not understand because I didn't see any of the movies. Bagonia or whatever movie that came from. And then I was like, why are all these kids chasing Conan?

And of course, when I see, like, a group of children in Hollywood, I just am like... Red Flagler. Nefarious. Yeah, of course. So I didn't like the opening sketch because I didn't get it, because I didn't see the movies because they were bad. Right. I also didn't see not one singular movie.

I think that's important to note whilst recapping this award show. So I don't have strong opinions on who should have won. Oh, no, no. I have no opinion. I have no horse in this race. Like, last year, I watched everything alone. All I'll say is, like, I wished Timothy had won so that I could have heard him, acknowledge. I couldn't see more Kylie FaceTime.

However, I had turned it off by then. I made it all the way to the Golden Performance. And then the whole time I was just like, I really want to be watching Secret Lives. Like, I'm not finding this entertaining. And I want to be entertained, but I'll just like keep an ear open because like we're going to talk about it today. But I didn't find it to be good. But I'm glad that you enjoyed it. Yeah, I like to see fabulous, like, good looking people all in one room.

Kate Hudson was nominated for an Oscar. And she's just so like it. Do you know what I mean? She got the best seat. Her movie, like, wasn't, I think the most nominated. ones were sinners, sinners in one battle after the other. Like her movie got like maybe one or two awards. Hers being one of them. Hugh Jackman wasn't even nominated. So like, I don't know, she literally had the best, she'd better seat than Michael Jordan. Like she had the best seat in the house you could

see her like from the angle of the host. They included her in like a couple little bits. She's just like that girl, you know? Yeah. Oh, and actually, this was the first year where I felt like the in-memorium was so much more in-depth than their typical slideshow and, you know, Jennifer Hudson performance. They had a couple of people speak. I guess this year, like we actually actually lost a, usually there's like one or two major people. Catherine O'Hara, Diane Keaton, Rob Reiner. Yeah. I forgot about that. A lot of, oh, and then Robert Redford, Barbara Strisean came out.

She came kind of like a turn speech, negative connotation. But that's my queen right there, so like Slay Mama. And it was a little long, but it was nice. It really was. I love to see Ms. Rachel McAdams being tapped to speak on Diane Keaton. Now I know everyone was like, Claudia. They were in the family stone together. I don't give a shit.

They were in morning glory together. And we wouldn't all be here in this room right now if it weren't for that movie. And I feel like that's really the project that bonded them. Obviously. Not the family stone. And I think it came out first. Actually, I don't know.

I don't think Family Stone was a bonding experience. I saw the family stone. And let me tell you, it is bar none the craziest movie. I don't know what I thought. I never saw it. Should I see it? Yes. You actually will love it.

A turn positive or a turn negative. Turn positive for sure. Al-A-Ladine. Turn is the new Hala-D. Jackie, it's the craziest movie. You think it's just like a family Christmas movie. So you said turn positive? Turn positive.

It's wild. First of all, star-studded Sarah Jessica Parker, Rachel McAdams. Owen Wilson's hotter, better brother, Emmett. Is that his name? The plot, like you just have, you have no idea where this movie's going to take you. Okay, okay, I'm going to watch it. Yeah, you will actually love it. Let me add it to my content plate.

And it's actually, we should like all rewatch it. I think we need to have like a conversation about it. It's like it's a highly contested movie, you know, because people are like, I'm team S.JP. You know, like you'll say. How did I get? Oh, the in memoriam. Yeah.

It's like so random. The immemorial was actually really sweet. I enjoyed that. I feel like they could have been a little bit more. And at Catherine O'Hara. They should have had like, um. The ladies. Levy's, Dan Levy?

No, not him. The older one. Eugene Levy. Yeah, they like, worked together for like 100 years. They should have had him come. Like, she. Like, you're in Taiian. They deserve the same level.

And they just sort of like kind of brush Catherine. And now people are mad because Eric Dane and James Vanderbik were both not included. Having said that, I do, I feel like they have to cap it to like feature film people. They were both TV actors, which of course, like they deserve to be honored. But like if we're including everyone. We're never in a movie? I don't think so. Like for real.

I guess. Okay. That's tough. But they should have just like done it for the people because it always happens like that where they leave out like the more famous people who have passed and it's like just include them. I know, but like if I actually don't think that they should. Yeah. The buck has to end somewhere. We don't need to end memoriam to be like any longer. It was really long last night. Although I did enjoy it. But there wasn't a singer. So I thought that was missing. Then we have best director went to one battle after another.

They were the big winners last night along with you know. Did you know that the director of one battle after another is married to Maya Rudolph? No, I didn't. Huge night for Maya Rudolph. Because she all. So the bridesmaids got together. I was cracking up at the letter thing being Scars Guard. Oh my God, that was so funny. Who he's had Scars Guard? He's so classic. I know him from something.

Why was he getting like so much play? I never saw that guy before. Is he the dad of Alexander and like there are three Scars Guard and Peter? I'm sorry. And he's a mama me. I didn't see Mama Mia. It's not a common last name. It has to be.

Of course, of course. But like so Alexander and the guy from an education, my favorite movie. Their brothers, Peter. Oh, he's married to Maggie Gillenhall. He is. Oh, Peter's not related. Okay. So, okay.

So maybe just Alexander and they're both like Swedish. And he's from big little lies. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yes. True blood. Yeah. Yeah, he's not. So yeah, that sketch I was like, I was cracking.

It's so funny. And Wendy McLevin-Levois spoke out about why she wasn't there. Why? Because she had a necklift. She said there's no drama. I love her. Imagine like getting the call. Imagine getting the call that like the bride's

are doing a ring and it's probably like a week or two in advance and she's like So she already had the procedure. I would have still went or had it on the schedule. It's so Wendy like put on a neck brace, you know? She must be in really bad shape. Yeah. I don't know. I could understand not wanting to go but like we'll see you in 20 years for the next one.

I love her. I love her too. But I don't feel like she was a main character. I know. I didn't feel like anyone was missing. I didn't feel like her absence was glaring. I will say the five of those. I guess she was a main character with, you know.

The five of those women on stage, like they individually were all way like five of the ugliest dress as I've ever seen. And like all of them together, it was actually quite shocking. With the exception of Roseburn, she looked okay. But like, I was shocked. I thought Kimmy Schmidt looked good. It was okay. And Kristen Wigg is looking really great. She is. She's like a fashion girl now. And my Rudolph looked lovely. And Melissa McCarthy was terrible. No, Melissa McCarthy is terrible. Like the five of them together, there was just no cohesion. Like it was just, it was not working for me. Speaking of cohesion, Devil Wars Prada had big moments. And when tour presented with Ann Hathaway. You know what? And then there was a couple commercials and like,

you know, integrated brand commercials. So I want to talk about her presenting. Anna Wintour. And she didn't make a funny joke when she was like to Anne Hathaway. Thank you, Emily. Like funny. And she delivered it actually. Sleigh.

I just have one little critique because she's finally leading in. The movie was like such a big hit when it came out. And I think it was probably like her worst nightmare come true. Like although I do feel it was a very beneficial and cultivating this like kind of like sleigh image of her. right she's this legend there's a movie about her and her never having even acknowledge it like was kind of cool um knowing she hated it and like kind of black listed like maril street and anne hathaway like that's losery um but her like getting involved now i liked it but part of me was like it was kind of cooler when she didn't you know yeah but i do think the idea of her presenting for best costume

works with anne it was it was cool don't do too much of it i fear she might be like be in the movie a lot Anna? I don't know. I just feel like she's really participating. Oh, God. If she's in the movie, that's bad. Yeah. Also, when you recapped the premise of this next movie, it's like she's the head of features, Emily.

And my idea was better. But it also seems like she's like trying to, just based on the trailer that I saw, it seems like they're trying to like, you know, wokeify her and like make, you know, I feel like. Oh, and it's like, yeah, workplace harassment of Miranda. Yeah. It seems like she has a shadow who's like an HR person who's like you can't say that. That's funny. That seems to be like what's happening in the movie. I just think like Anne Hathaway going back to work at runway like is so incongruous with the Andy that we knew.

And I thought my premise for the film. What was your premise again? That like Andy, you know, we check in 20 years later and she's like, you know, running features at like New York Magazine. Like somewhere like literary and major. And she gets the job of having to do like a big profile or like maybe Miranda's retiring or something. And she follows her for like a month. They go to Fashion Week and they go, I just thought that would be better. Because her working at Runway, like that Yarlesburg, she would never.

Yeah. What's Yarlesburg? Oh. There's like $8 worth of Yarlsberg on that. Literally the best line. And I hope Adrienne's character died. Like, I'm not getting it at all. We're literally the villain of that movie.

You would think it's Merrill Streep? No. It's fucking Grinier. It's 1,000% him. Like, she just gets the job and she comes to like cocktails with all of her friends, the Yellowbelly losers. And she brings them gifts. Like she brought them Mark Jacobs,

like so cute and her phone starts ringing and they all especially Adrienne grenade they like passed her phone around like she just brought you fucking gifts she brought that chubby one a phone like are you kidding that movie actually piss me off with that group of friends no and we're supposed to like be with them oh are we're not i was never with them no ever something no what else happened okay let's go through the awards okay actor in a leading role went to michael b jordan and sinners not Timothy Shalame. I really loved his speech. Like it was so sweet. He says that like he really felt like everyone in this room like the industry like really champions him and believes in him. And it's something he doesn't take for granted. And he's so proud. He's like, I'm going to keep

crushing it. I'm going to keep doing just good work because everybody, you know, people in the theaters and then people in this industry just believe in me. It was a really good speech. Everyone does believe in him. I think he's just like a well-liked, affable, talented guy. Yeah. And he thanked Haley Stainfeld who couldn't be her because she's, you know, getting ready for that baby. I thought maybe he spoke kind of fast. I thought maybe he said she had the baby. be by accident, but no, he didn't. Yeah, I don't feel like she did. Me neither.

I think she actually could have went to the Oscars, but like stay at home. Yeah, no. She wasn't nominated. Her movie was nominated a thousand times over. I really feel like she's not been that publicly associated with the movie as much as like other people have. Yeah. Actress in the leading role went to Jesse Buckley and Hamnet.

Oh, stop. Her speech. Like, actually was making me cry. It was Mother's Day in the UK. She's British and her mom was there. And it was just like, and she just became a mom. She has an eight month old and it was just, it was really beautiful. Oh, for the mammas.

I kind of want to see the Hamnet. Okay. Hamnet, the Hamnet. Hamnet. It looks good. Oh, he had a funny joke saying like Hamnet and Bagonia movies about deli me. Yeah, right. I chuckled. Actor in a supporting role, Sean Penn in one battle after another, who did not attend the ceremony.

You know, it was kind of confused. And I don't know if this has been happening all awards season, and I just realized it. And he didn't know what was happening. Jacob Allorty plays Frankenstein, and he was nominated for Best Supporting Actor in the movie Frankenstein. Like, how are you a song? supporting actor in the movie named after you. Maybe the person, like the person who made Frankenstein, I forget, like his, maybe it's like his story and he made Frankenstein. Got it. It's like the Frankenstein prequel. It's a fucking Frankenstein actually swept. Frankenstein was everywhere. I was

like this movie came out. Yeah, it swept in like costume, design, makeup, artistry casting. Of course. Then we have actress in a supporting role, which meant to Amy Madigan in weapons. A weapons was the one that he was dressed as in the opening sketch. Yeah, I actually, like, really didn't, like, having heard of that movie. No, like, really? I didn't even see that person, a picture from the movie. Yeah. So when he dressed up in the makeup, I said, what's happening?

Yeah, yeah. I could see how that would be confusing for someone. Right, and the kids were running after him. I never saw that. Got it, got it. So that's definitely, like, do you ever see that? No. And, like, so.

I was just like Hollywood. It wasn't until I started to see, like, F1 and Sinners and Marty Sprint. I'm like, oh, this is a roundup of the movies. This was also the first year they gave out an Oscar for casting. Yes. And I believe the woman who won was the one who cast one battle after the other. I do feel like it's never too late to give the Oscar to hairspray. I agree.

And I'll just wait for that to happen. Or for any live casting. Not a feature film. Live production. Well, maybe next year there'll be a category for best cast of a live production. Adapted screenplay, one battle after another. Sure. Original screenplay.

Oh, that's a major category. Someone who didn't base it off of a movie, a book, or something. that came before it. Mm-hmm. And that went to sinners. Yes, I actually think, I was thinking about that too, because when they were doing the packages of the nominees, it was like, based on the, based on the, and it's like, girl, nobody has an original idea.

And I think, I forget whose speech that was. Maybe it was Ryan, the guy who wrote sinners, just like talking about. Ryan Coogler. Yeah, about like, original ideas. And I was like, yes. Original ideas. I love those. Yeah.

Animated feature film won to K-pop Demon Hunters. Obviously. Of course. They also won for song. and I want to say like the Oscars did the most disgusting thing. Like I felt like vomiting. Did you see the taking the mic stand? The girl spoke and then she passed it off to the guy and the second she did they cut to Conan

and turned off the lights. And so everybody started booing. And we went back and we saw that the mic had been drawn down. The music was on and the lights went off. And like we all just sort of stood there and then Conan cut to a commercial break. I think these people are disgusting. Yeah. And it's like.

Oh, and we had to watch two award speeches for the tie. Right. But also the point of this award show is like to give out awards. Like if you need to cut back on your bits and nonsense so that the people can have their moment for the point of this award show, like, just let them. No, I felt. And he wasn't like a big wig. You know, this is like his first time maybe ever going to be on this stage. Like let the man speak.

I felt really sick. And the K-pop demon hunters took over the world. And I don't know, just do that to someone famous. You would never, right? You would never. Just like a little guy who wrote a song. I was really upset. The biggest song of the year.

I didn't realize K-pop Demon Hunters was animated. I thought it was live action. No, I knew. Much like Cynthia, unlike Cynthia Revo. But I love it just the same. Of course. Never saw it, but I love it. Shout out to Diane Warren.

She lost for the 18th year in a row. Oh, for song? I didn't think her Kesha song was going to be the one that cinched it, especially when Golden was in the category. I do believe she will win. And I'm sorry that that happened. Yeah. Yeah, Golden, like, no one's sort of a chance.

One, it's the biggest song of the year. And two, I've not heard of any of these songs. Right. Original score went to sinners, cinematography sinners. Sinners was the big winner of the evening. Sinner the winner. One battle was actually the big winner.

They won the big. No, and they won six awards and sinners won four. Got it, got it. And they won Best Picture. And that's the big one. Oh my God, we have to talk about Tiana Taylor. She's so fucking funny. So when her movie won, she was like one of the first people to rush on stage.

She couldn't believe it. She put the director, Maya Rudolph's husband in a headlock. She was like, yeah, like gave him a nuggie. It was so funny. and then they had three statues. And when they gave the nominations, they were like, they said the three people. It was obviously like the two director, the director, producer, whatever. And I don't know if Tiana, like, thought that it was hers, but she was holding on to the entire time.

And like the woman who was one of the people who, I don't know who wins when the movie gets the award, but like it's the director, the executive, whatever. She like didn't get one. Teana took it. It's like right up. Like Leonardo DiCaprio standing there holding nothing. Tiana's like, oh my God, she was being so fucking funny. Like, we need her to be in more movies of this caliber because she's actually brought a lot to the awards circuit.

Like, she's always best dressed. Yeah. But she has so much personality at sometimes these, like, stuffy events when she put the guy in headlock. I actually was freaking out. She was so happy. It was honestly, she is a delight to watch. I was very joyful.

I was cracking up. That's hysterical. It was. So those were the big winners. As far as fashion, any best favorite dress? No, like everyone just wears nice dresses, you know? Yeah, I thought everyone looked nice. Yeah, oh, actually, I didn't like Kylie's, not to be negative.

So Kylie looked amazing. She's the most beautiful woman on the planet and she can do no wrong. It wasn't my favorite of Kylie's looks. Like, it was so, like, not. She had worn this Scaparelli dress a few months back, I think, to a show. And she had said in, it was actually in an interview that, like, she felt like it didn't get enough shine and that, like, we should do it again. And so it's the same dress, but in red. Now, I just, like, don't love red

And I don't love sparkles And I don't love red sparkles Cutouts? I don't love cutouts. That's what I mean, it's like she in. Yeah, it was like a play on Jessica Rabbit. It's just like, it wasn't my favorite, but like she is the most beautiful woman. Wonder if Timothy was upset.

That about with her dress? Him losing. No, he didn't reprimand her when he got home that her dress wasn't pretty out of her. Yeah, I was bummed for her that she has to go deal with that. I know. Like that ego, you know, after everything that he said. And I think we all thought Timothy

was going to win because he said he was going to win, you know? What do you mean? The whole time he was like, this is the greatest movie. This is the, like, I'm going to win the Oscar. And so we're like, yeah, Timothy's going to win the Oscar. And so I don't know if that's like how he actually felt it. Now he's coming down from his high horse or he's just like projecting that, you know, manifesting into the world.

I feel like he should be okay. He has so much more ahead of him. So young. He will win an Oscar in his life. But I did feel really, really bummed for Kylie that she has to go home and take care of that. Yeah. Bummer. Yeah.

Yeah. Big bummer. But I guess that's part of being like the wife of. The wife of. I'm sure like Taylor deals with it with Travis. Beyond. He's like a sugar nut like behavior. Yeah.

Like seriously. The high highs and low lows is all. It's so you. You can't have it all. They did go to the vanity fair Oscar party together. They were a touchy feeling on the carpet. So at least they partied hard. An outfit that because there were so many outfits, right?

Everybody goes to the Oscars. And then everybody goes to the Oscars. And then people who didn't go to the Oscars also go to the Vanity Fair. It was like kind of a like, it's like a lot of information. But I will say like, someone that really stood out was Kendall Jenner's vanity fair. Yeah. It was kind of like insane.

I loved that dress. I would have loved to see Kylie in it. Like literally. Yeah. Kylie wore like she looked amazing again. It was like black, sparkly with feathers. Yeah. I don't like sparkly and like feathers.

Kim was there. Yeah. It was giving like kind of like 2012 Kanye era like with a smoky eye. It was and like the hair. Yeah. I liked it but like it was just weird. It looked nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. I think it's a place where you look nice. You don't go and like, set a new trend. You don't go to set a new trend. You don't go to look your best. I think you could meet a guy. You can get a girl. It's true.

It's eligible people. And you just want to look nice. And you want to be able to move through the room. You don't want to have like a huge gown. Like we're just having drinks and we're having fun. It's fun. Yeah. It's not like the me where it's like I need a people to carry me and walk with me.

And I can't walk on my own two feet. Like, no, we need to be mobile. We need to be looking chic and pretty. Classically pretty. So I feel like everyone really looked that way. Yeah. Nobody embarrass themselves at Vanity Fair. Not yet, though.

People mostly don't in terms of looks. Yeah. Yeah. So that's your Oscars recap. I think that's everything. Are you ready for our next story? Damn. Okay.

Oh, some crazy TV news. Access Hollywood has been canceled along with Caramo and Steve Wilkes as NBCU. By the way, everyone talked about Access, but like Steve Wilcox being canceled, this is really crazy. And really? Yeah. Yeah. Like he's OG, like Mori Jerry Springer era. He's Jerry's,

old security garden and then he got at his own show. And it's obviously, like, I've never seen it. I had no idea that was happening. I never heard Steve Wilco's before. So a fun fact about me is I actually went to a taping of the Jerry Sparer show. It's a kind of my favorite story of tell. It's kind of formed you as a woman. Absolutely.

It was a formative experience. My friend Rachel, it was her birthday. And she was like, I'm taking you guys like on a mystery best ride. She took us to Connecticut. And until we like pulled up, I had no idea where we're going. And we went to the place where they film Mori, Jerry Springer, Steve Wilcoe. That's how I know. And Mori was actually not in season, so he wasn't taping.

Jerry was. I got a hat. I also met Jerry Springer. I don't know if I mentioned that. Because his social media manager was obviously like a brother at the time. And she saw my stories that I was there. And she was like, do I want to meet Jerry? And I was like, do I want to be Jerry?

I'm sure. And he was really lovely. Like you forget that he hosts this crazy show. He looked like seriously someone's grandpa. And he was like, so nice to meet you. Let's take a picture. I hope I never see you on my show. Have a good day.

I said, thanks so much. So back to Steve Wilco's. That's devastating. But I do feel like that era of cable TV is so. I can't believe he's still on the air. Yeah. And Caramo, but Access Hollywood, I feel like it's the biggest one. And Access Live, in a major strategic shift for the company, they will not be renewed.

I mean, it's really hard for some reason for like pop culture, entertainment, TV programs to survive in this climate. I wonder why. Which, like, it's crazy because that's literally what we grew up watching. He was putting them on notice. I don't know why they have a hard time, like, moving digitally. Like, Access should have become, like, a huge digital program. Like, same with E-News. It's insane that these franchises can't keep it up.

But it's probably because there's so many, well, not so many, like one amazing daily pop culture podcast that's sort of putting them out of business. Yeah. Do you feel, I didn't think about it this way until we're having this conversation. Do you feel personally responsible? No, we don't interview celebrities. Like, we actually, we have nothing to do. And all we do is, like, say mean things that people are thinking.

Like, so you don't think it's just like us? No, no. I actually don't. No, and we actually were on Access a couple times. I want to say, love my Access family. I actually had the most amazing experiences. I was just on it the other day for Messinger. They're always having me on.

I'm going to be devastated. This is a huge loss for me. I've been on like five times. Every time I need to do press, I pitch this. And I just want to say, it's all toasters. That woman, Trisha, like shout out your fucking real one. Like, I'm never going to work in this town again. This sucks.

Of course. Like, fucking sucks. The one show that has the song. Yeah, that loves us. Like literally loves us. Everybody loves them. I was talking to them last time. There was two toasters.

They were like, oh, when the Zoom was over, like, come over. Where's Jackie? Are you in Jackie's house? the present in your house. This sucks. I'm so sorry for us. Me too. And Mario Lopez. And the host are so like... And Kit. Kit. Yeah. She'll get a job.

Yeah. They're so talented and they're like really entertainment journalists. And we do still need that, you guys. I know. But you know, Vanity Fair. I was actually watching all these clips like literally not a journalist in sight. For Vanity Fair, I think official, it was Britney Broski, Quinn and Therapist. Oh, wow. Yeah. For... That's sort of like Sweet Life on deck with Haddon Montana, no? Yeah. For the cut, it was Sierra Miller from Summerhouse. Okay.

For Amelia Chicken Chop, she was, I think, official Oscars. Okay. Yeah. Not a journalist in sight. And you know what's so funny is actually Jake Shane was just on the Rolling Stone podcast. And all he's, they were getting deep. They were asking really good questions. And they were asking about this like line between journalism and influencing.

And Jake was like, I'm not a journalist. I don't like pretend to be. It's insulting to call him in journalism. I don't pretend to be. I don't do journalism. And if, like, somebody comes on my show and says something, like, crazy, and I get, like, a big scoop and they want to take it out. Like, I'm extremely gracious.

I take out everything that people ask me to take out because I'll get another big guest. Another thing will happen. And I just want people to have really enjoyed their time. So, like, the total opposite of how traditional journalism would treat, like, a subject. It was a good interview. Well, then we need a new word for it because Jake Shane isn't not, not a journalist. And he's not an influencer either. He's sort of like.

just a friend do you know what I mean like everybody likes him no but there are a couple people like changing and just like the conversation we had about the new link so you know game of crowns and Alex who were like if they're not journalists royal court yeah game of crowns close yeah they're not they're not not journalists there's something there's something new right right and like if they're going to be replacing journalists then I just think on red carpet at like these braw events like you do sort of need like a kelty yeah yeah she was there by the way doing a just in too yeah yeah yeah no i agree i'm not like we still need some but like these digital outlets like now red carpets like i don't watch them on tv they're all on tictock you see the clips yeah so they

they tap tictok right so i get it and i don't think it's as exciting to watch and be interviewed by like a no-name journalist like i get that i do um but it's an imperfect solution yeah but you know what i think much a lot like it will work itself out. Yeah. And the cream rises. But we will miss access and Steve Wilcoe and Karamo. I didn't know Karamo was still on the air. I didn't know.

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And I don't know that we would have known that he hosted had he not done that. So he's addressing the queer baiting allegations by kissing comedian Ben Marshall during his monologue. I just want to say, like, not to be a wokey, but like he is a big queer baiter. Do you know what I mean? Like I didn't know that word actually until Harry Ciles a few years ago. And it's like, yeah, he does talk a lot, dress like a lot, like a lot of, very androgynous, very, you know, his music videos, it's like, but he exclusively dates women. Right.

So I, and he does call it an interview, says he's queer, but like, are you? Right. So I guess this was his way of addressing it, quite literally living me more confused than ever. Confused in what sense? About his sexuality? Or about how seriously he takes the queer baiting allegations? And if he is doing more queer baiting by kissing Ben Marshall. Well, he is because it just looked like that was the first time he kissed a boy.

Like, do you know what I mean? It wasn't giving. like I do this all the time. Yeah. Yeah, that's funny. I didn't actually watch SNL. I don't watch. No, I didn't realize he was hosting.

I genuinely would not have heard anything about a good thing that he kissed Ben Marshall or else his whole episode would have just gone in the bin. Did his Netflix live concert come out yet? It should have, given how we reported on the details. I don't know why. I just feel like this era. Sometimes an artist just does an error that's not for you. Like we were talking about that with Casey Musgraves, you know?

I feel like this particular Harry era is not for me. And so I'm just sort of It's just passing me by And I'm okay with that You know what I just realized Harry Styles will be on namesake Not if we keep talking about him In the way that we are

So I just thought this was the most amazing S&L episode And the album's incredible Really How do you listen to it? Forward and backwards I heard a song It's called American Girls

It's actually really cute I've known you for edges Seattle to go It's an American girl He does live an American girl Yeah came on my Alexa yesterday. Olivia Dean. Not Olivia Dean. I'm cracking up. I was just thinking about how we used to date

Olivia Dean. Did he? That doesn't stick. Well, it obviously doesn't stick because I brought her up on the toast when I heard that they were dating years ago. And then I started seeing videos of her performing way before she was famous. And I said to you, Jackie, I think you'd really like this girl. I need to find that clip. It was like literally in 22. I'm like, I saw her. I'm like, Jackie. I just had a baby. I said she dresses really fabulously. Like, I think you would really like her. Yeah. No, you were definitely right. But maybe because I just had a baby. just couldn't take that new artists. What I was trying to say was at Lisa Bonae was there.

So like it's getting serious. Oh yeah. And Zoe Kravitz was there and Lisa Benei and Machutonum. It's kind of a big deal. Yeah. But no, you know, forgoing namesake for a second and just putting the... Forgoing namesake, yeah. The best interest of the discussion forward.

It's giving flop. Right. Are we unique in RPA? Because I do really feel like sometimes like you just aren't the targeted person for music or error or whatever. That's why we have to check in with Margo Washtray from time to time. Yeah, right. Or the listeners, like, sound off like, is this era like giving you everything?

Because I did watch a bunch of, like, music people's reviews on the album. I was interested in seeing a couple of people I follow. And overwhelmingly, it's been, not that it's a bad album, but it's like very me. Like, and especially, I think I agreed with this too. The messaging has been very misleading because everyone thought they were tuning into, like, a pussy pop in disco yeah yeah and disco's like very untrending like abba's coming back like everyone loves disco so um it's not that it's actually one of his more like reflective and sad albums somber but not capital s i gotta tell you i'm loving that somber i know that song keeps coming up on

my ticot um i don't want to be a home wrecker i'll tell you he's got riz yeah no they're onto something with somber yeah and um home wrecker is his new song and kelly clarkson covered it and she crushed it. Oh. Yeah. Well, that's... Oh, and then they had like a really kind of trendy music video for it. Somber was in it.

Quinn and Milo, who beat, who Bobby Bones beat on Dancing with the Stars. Oh, what was he doing there? So I think the song is about a homewrecker. So it's like one guy, two girls, like maybe like he's being a homewucker on Quinn and Rapunzel boy. Okay. Yeah. Okay.

So he's like a young person and I feel like he's doing really good. Yeah. And I think Harry Styles is like these old tropes are. are not going to work anymore. Well, I also think, and I find this very promising what we were talking at, the music that is doing well with young people right now, thankfully, is like very joyful music. That's what I'm saying.

Somer, Olivia Dean, Ray. Alex Warren. Well, his is like a little more emo, but I mean like the viral, like really the big artists right now, like they're doing joyful music and like light, colorful. I feel like for a while, like kids were like obsessed with being depressed and like wearing black makeup. And now it's like, yeah, I want to dress like Olivia Dean and I want to wear sparkles. And like, it's very, let my hair down.

Like, it's very joyful. That's why I have tapped back in. I don't know if you guys noticed that. We have. We have. And I think that's great. And it's not a change in me. It's like a change in the culture.

It is. I think it's a lot of new artists for me to consume. I think it's good for young people's health as well. Yeah. I agree. I think it's a really great trend. Yeah. More of that, please, best.

And that, like, was Harry Singh. Like, yeah. The outfits, the feathers. I don't know what's going on with herself. Yeah. I think he's like, I don't know. It's hard. It's really hard to follow up something like really fantastic.

It's honestly a rite of passage to like have this moment. It's true. And I feel I feel for him. But like I said, this is something that the female pop stars deal with all the time throughout their careers every minute of it. Like Katie Perry listening to this conversation. She's like, yeah, welcome to my life. Yeah. Like it's never enough.

You always have to be next. Better. More. Yeah. Bigger. Yeah. Totally. And same goes for Harry if you want to be in the pop space.

Especially if you want to take so much time off. Like so many people really did Benson Boone. and they say he's like, I want to be Harry Styles, but you know what? He does that like very moonbe, my screen, positive joy of Mary Megan train her coded,

you know? I love Benson Boone. I like him too. Music. I don't know him as a person. I think he's a nice boy. I've never seen an interview. Me neither.

We could have him on namesake because he's the same name as your husband. Right, Ben, Ruben. So we could also have Ben's and Zacks and Jackie's and Claudias. That opens up. We have to have more interviews.

We're only going to have like six. It's supposed to be a limited. It will still be limited. It's supposed to be limited. It will still. still be limited. We could have Olivia Dien on. Yeah, we could.

We could make that concession for her. Yeah. We could have Margot Robbie. We could, yeah, if we were open to that. Our next story is actually a great segue. Okay. Into Elle Fanning's next role. She is planning.

It better be the Nightingale. Only fans creator from Margot's Got Money Troubles. Which is, I saw people talking about this and I knew it because it was a Redheads book. So we could have her on namesake to promote Margot's got money troubles. Fine. Okay. Now people's characters count. Listen, we have to think creatively.

We're just going to head a dead end. We have to hit a dead end. And she reveals that she created an only fan's account to prep for her latest role. So if you don't know, Margot's Got Money Troubles is about a young mom who turns to Onlyfans because she just had a baby and she needs money. And Elle Fanning is playing Margo in Margot's Got Money Troubles. Elle Fanning is kind of like a – she works a lot, so I don't think of her so much as like a Daisy Edgar Jones. But like she's always getting tapped for adaptations. Yeah.

Well, she's always getting tapped, period. She's at every single Oscars for a different movie, of course. because it's a new year. What's so funny is I was thinking about her last night, her movie won, international feature film, and she was on stage. She's so cute. And it's crazy how she was Dakota Fanning's sister. And now, like, Dakota's her sister.

You know what I mean? No, and it's crazy how every movie that she picks, like, winds up getting nominee for everything. She's a really good picker. Or they just, like, look at movies that she's in. I don't know how it works. No, she has a good picker for sure. What came first? So she's supposed to be doing the Nightingale, which is a book adaptation.

She's not doing another book adaptation. And she's also playing Paris and Nicole. Yeah. You want to know what it is. She's kind of ageless. Like, how old is she? She's either like 23 or 35, you know? She's 27, so she's smack in between. Yeah. And I love her. She's playing an only fans creator in the movie adaptation of Margo's Got Money Trouble. So that will be interesting. And she's so, Margo's looking. She reminds me a lot of my friend Margo Fish, like very porcelain, like skin. Then you hear her talk and she's like kind of crazy. She's like, she's like. She's like, friends with Timothy. So Kylie and her were chatting quite a bit. I don't know if we saw they were sitting right next to each other. Yeah. They're best friends. Because also from. Bob Dylan circuit. You know, I was thinking about Bob Dylan. And Mama Nicobarro. I'm sure she feels left out.

Okay, so I was thinking about literally that last night. It's just so, and we talk about this with music a lot, but I don't think we talk about it with like the Oscars. Because when Mikey Madison came out, she won the, she gave the award for best actress because she had won the previous year. And it was like last year, you couldn't leave your house, Mikey Madison, Mickey Madison, Mickey Madison. And, and Nor, and nor, and did she work? Like, I literally didn't see her in one thing after that. It's crazy how you can be it on top of the world, bell of the ball, Hollywood, Icar. And then I never hear from you again.

Yeah. Mikey Madison, she might have filmed something that she might have gotten jobs from the Oscars that haven't come out yet. Maybe. Here's a long time. But like think of like three years ago who won and like where are they now. Right. It just feels like every year. Yeah.

Yeah. And then who were you saying that about? Wait, how do we get here? Dakota and Monica Barbaro and the gang. So then yeah. The girl gang. Monica Barbaro last year was like she was ever a it girl. When she's so pretty cat is.

I never saw her again. Yeah. I saw the movie that she was in. What happened her? What movie? Bob Dylan. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Such a bad movie.

Maybe she's, like, working on her next big thing. Apparently everyone is. We are. Yeah. So I'm very excited for this movie, even though I didn't like love. Actually, like the book, it was fine. It was a little too, like, OnlyFans specific. You know, if, like, OnlyFans changes, like, if they have a user website change,

like, everything in the book is sort of, like, ancient. It was about how, like, you couldn't even link your OnlyFans on your Instagram, link in bio. You can. You have to use Link Tree. And I was just like, that's really. in the week. It's very, yeah, technical. Yeah, very technical. So it makes sense that she joined Onlyfans in order to like pop around the site. Well, it sounds like a great premise for a movie.

Yeah, it does. So I actually will be seeing this. It does. And the casting is really good. Michelle Pfeiffer plays her mother and Nick Oferman, plays her dad, who's a former pro wrestler. And yeah, that feels right. In the words of the Redheads, that feels right. Mm-hmm. TFR. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? We're going to do Slamo recap because news just broke that production is paused on Slamo right now after Taylor and Dakota have a blowup. Okay. And this is after... This is yesterday. So this is after the season of The Bachelorette has already been filmed.

Yes. Taylor's supposed to be engaged to someone right now. And production on The Secret Lives of Morton Wise has hit an unexpected pause, and it's all due to a heated blowup between Taylor and Dakota. TMZ has learned. Sources connected to the series tells us that production is currently shut down. After drama with the show's star, Taylor Frankie Paul and her baby daughter, Dakota Mortensen, erupted while filming for season five, causing cameras to go down for the time being.

It's unclear exactly what sparked the fight, but sources say the situation became intense enough that filming couldn't continue as planned. So I feel like, I mean, this is so Dakota and Taylor, they had a domestic violence call. Like, they are no stranger to like police, drama, whatever. But I do feel like a lot of Taylor's goodwill is like with the fans and the audience, the watchers,

is really kind of dwindling. And this is not going to help her. I don't know why they didn't like edit the show position Taylor just to be a little bit more favorable. You want to go in liking the best. Bachelorette. And I have like a lot of doubts now. And then this, like, I just feel like, I didn't want them to lie to us. And this is clearly what was going on in her life. But like, it's not going to be like a good drama season, but it's not a serious. Okay. I have two

conflicting thoughts with the two thoughts conflict each other. So here's one case scenario that like she kind of pulls a Claire Crawley this season and fucks up the season. Like what are the odds that she makes it all the way to the end, gets with one person, gets engaged. That person is not Dakota. Chase or Ben the singer and we have a Bachelorette season. So all of this might be preparing us for how things go sideways on her season if they go sideways. The other thought is that my memory when it comes to these things is so short. I know a bachelor at premieres next week, but it will take place over the series of months.

And by the time I'm watching the last episode, I will not remember what I watched on Hulu right now. And so like even with Demi and like when Whitney was the villain, like I'm sat, I'm watching and I'm like, yeah, you're bad. And the minute I turn it off, I turn a new page. And I think the women mostly do too. Like, it's actually crazy about the beginning of this season. Jesse was like not even that mad at to me.

They met for a couple's counseling session. Like, I do think they all have short memory spans. And for the sake of the show, they know they kind of need to move on. And I think the audience has short memory spans too. And I think that Hulu is like maybe playing into that, knowing that we're getting a great season of Slamo. Everyone will digest it. Move on.

And then when Taylor, Frangy Palt, probably the show premieres next week. So that gives everyone two weeks to watch the show. process it. And then I think the first episode of her bachelor's, if she is intent on like going through the season. But this news kind of derails what you just said. Yes, but it could be, this could mean a million things. This could mean like, you know, Taylor's mental health. She needed a break. Like, and I think she does need a break. And I think the show needs, by the way, she's so skinny, like not in like a pargy way. Like she looks so worn down. She looks very, very tired. I think the show needs a break. One for like content's sake, because we're watching a reunion, talking about the reunion,

and like give them a day to live and then tell us about it. All while like breastfeeding their babies. Yeah. And I think the women need a break, but it wouldn't even be to the detriment of the show. It would be better for the show. If they took a couple months off and they were like, here's what you missed in the last few months because so much happens every single day.

But not enough to film every single day because then we're seeing the conversation. We're seeing this person tell this person about the conversation. This person tell that person about the conversation. All about a conversation about something that happened that I no longer care about. So I think they need to like just pause for a lot of different reasons. but I do think that we will be able to process this season and then her first episode of The Bachelorette, if she does wind up with a new person

and goes through the whole season, they will dive extensively into her past to the point where we no longer talk about it. Yeah, but her past is her present because she's getting whatever. Was there police? What was it? It didn't say police. Just something intense happened and they have to,

but it's like how intense does it have to be because you think that's when cameras are up? Right, right. No, for cameras to drop, that's like they never drop. They didn't even drop on the boat and cart to Haina. Yeah. Which was so crazy. Or it's like legal. I also think like totally separately.

Like they drop bathroom paradise. I'm when they drop. Right, right. I think just this is totally separate, but I do feel like Taylor Frankie Paul needs a dramatic haircut. Like I think it'll change a lot of things. Yeah. At the Oscars last thing, she just had like her prom waves. And I'm like, you know what? It made me realize. I feel that way about Olivia Rodrigo and her sister Margo and our sister Margaret did it and she looks great. Sometimes you need to chop. Oh yeah. And Taylor Frankie Paul was at the Oscars. She's an ABC like. And it was just Oh, wait, so this was literally last night. Yeah.

Where was the blow up in L.A.? Was he in L.A. with her? Or is he just in L.A. because he's... Dad talk. Dad talk. And maybe he's with watching the... Maybe watching Everly. Everly.

Ever. Okay. I have to say something I love about this show. Like when they went, they all went to L.A. You didn't see this yet. To go to the Dancing with the Stars premiere. Everyone rents a house they bring. Husbands, babies, whatever.

The women go to Dancing with the Stars and all the men stay home with the babies. And they're just like filming, having conversations, like, even the baby's bottles. And there's something just, like, very normalized about the gender roles, like, traditionally, like, flipping. And it's such a delight to watch. And the only one who's sort of, like, not going quietly into his role is Jordan. And that's why he's so hell-bent on dad talk, like, becoming a thing so that they can earn

and the women stay home with the babies. And it's like, stop. Even if dad talk is okay. Like, just say how the housewives and New Jersey husbands is as successful as they could ever be. The women are always going to be more successful. They set the template. And I think a lot of them, like, have really comfortably, maybe it took, like, a Zach Affleck a

minute, you know? But I think they're all very comfortable, like being more domestic and having their wives just make this insane amount of money. Jordan is not going quietly into the night. And he's giving off like a really toxic narcissistic behavior. And the crazy thing is that I believe him and Jesse are still together, even though I think I hate him. Nobody on this earth hates him him more than Jesse. And did you feel like she tolerates and puts up with a lot because she has young kids and like that's what you're supposed to do? And so she's a queen for that. And I know she listens to the show, so I just want to let you know, like, you're a queen, and I support whatever decision you make, but, like, I hate your fucking husband. Like, hate your fucking husband. Like, hate.

Yeah. His, like, he wears so many tank tops. He got hair plugs and veneers. Like, he's just sort of a cliche. No, and his, just his personality is so bad. And it seems like he's doing stuff like in service of the show. Like when he told the girls immediately, when he was the one to like, first of all, planned village trip. Guy with a pack. Everyone, everyone we're going to get, you know, the villa's going to be crazy. And he's the one hyping everyone up. And then to, like, go to run and tell Jesse when he said that no one else, even like Jacob isn't telling Macy and they're like, you know, and you know that it hurts him to do that. So he tells Jesse, like for literally no other reason, then the show, he is living and dying

by the show. No, he's so crazy. And he's so, like, not really an integral part of this show. Even when he was hugging Taylor when she was crying in their closet, I'm like, get your paws off her. Like, you're so fake. You hyped up Dakota to go and do this. You made everyone go.

No, no. He is the villain of this show. I cannot stand him. And I love Lela. She hates him so much. He doesn't even care that he's the villain of the show because he's just said, oh, Because he's on the show. So you see I'm on the show.

So I don't have to stay at home with the kids. I can go because I'm on the show. Because I'm now on the villain of the show. I really have to go on the show. And I guess he sees this because up until the show and TikTok, I think they were all having like normal marriages. Zach was going to medical school. I think he has, out of all the men, been in this position the entire time.

Jesse was always the earner in their family, which is like so not Mormon. It's so not Utah. Like it's not traditional. So I think he's been in this prison for a while. And like he sees the show is his way out. and he's like, he's taking it. It's not. It's not.

We hate you. It's the secret lives of Mormon wives. Like, Dad Talk needs to stand on. He doesn't, Dad Talk has to get this opportunity. Here's the thing. He doesn't care that we hate him, Claudia.

The more we hate him, the better it is for him. Like, the more that we are sitting here talking about him right now in rage, the better it is for him. And if the only way he can get attention on the show is to be the villain, then he will continue to be the worst.

Separately. I appreciate the- So I think we actually all have to stop talking about him. Great. I need to move on to Chase. I appreciate that, like, people on the show have like short memories and like it's kind of, but the chase erasure. And like when they flash back to that clip of what he actually, why Macy hates him so much is

because he went on a podcast and said mean things about the girls. It's his podcast. He launched a podcast to just talk about the show. It was called. What was it called? Only Guys? Something like really kind of weird. Whatever.

When they flash back to what he actually said about Macy, I had to. What's it called? Only dads. Okay. I was floored when they played the clip of what he actually said. And like the fact that Macy just sort of like has to forgive him because he's back in the full now. And we love him. And like, hi, he's so funny.

Like, no, we don't. Like I hate him. And I need to go back and watch like all the things he said. But what he said about Macy in particular, that the only reason she has like followers and cloud is because her baby daddy died. And people feel sorry for her. That's like, who can even think of something so mean to say? Like you're the devil. And that's not how I know Macy.

That's also just factually incorrect. I know her from like being a mom talk. Right. And so like these girls got a mom talk, got a show, are doing well. And so your reaction is, and you're not on the show. You're connected to it. You're a someone who had a crush on the main character and eventually your ex-wife is on the show.

And so your idea is to start a podcast talking about the show. Like that is a bad faith person. And I don't care that he's like the coolest and the funniest. It's like the coolest funniest person doesn't do that. Yeah. No, this chase like rebrand. I don't forget. Like I thought that was.

insane clip. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah, it's going to take a lot more than just to sit down. It is unfortunate that girls just have to forgive him. I know. He's so cool and he's just around now and you don't want to be having beef with someone all the time. You have to let things go just being on a show.

Like that's like Jen and Demi. Like Jen, you have to let it go. I don't even know what you're talking about anymore. Oh, me neither. Apparently I saw a clip and I zoomed right past it because I don't want to see. But Jen and Whitney have a huge blow up in glam in the middle of dancing with the stars. I don't know what it's about, but it seems like we'll get to the root of like they were clearly hating each other on Dancing with the Stars.

And it started out so nice. Yeah, it did. I'm so curious. Like, I really am. Yeah, but it seems like the friction between them is Demi. Jen is hung up on to me and Whitney is Demi's best friend. A lot of them have issues with Demi. And Whitney's like navigating it quite a part deliciously.

She is so gorgeous. Like her yellow dress in those confessions with the red hair. She looks insane. And when they flash back to her first season, when she had like the little blonde Bob and she had just had a baby, I'm like, that's a different person. And I actually don't even feel like she had like a whole, you know, like a facelift. She just looks like somebody who was like,

we were in the throes of having a baby, motherhood, breastfeeding, and not a great haircut. And somebody, like, literally just told her to tie her hair this color and it changed her whole life. She's in her soft era and now she's going hard. She looks insane. I'm going hard soon, you guys.

Yeah, I love that. I'm in my soft era. But I love my soft era. Whatever. Like, no, I love it. Like, I'll miss it. Yeah. When I'm going hard.

I'll be like, remember the days of salt? When we were softy. Beautiful. These are soft days, but in so many ways. And thank God they're not televised, you know. They are. Look at us. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven cameras on.

No, on like a scale like that, you know. Yeah. But look, I mean, but also the show makes me sad because I do feel like net, net. And yeah, they have more money and success and fame and huge careers. But, like, I don't feel like they're happier. I feel like most of them are less happy, except maybe for Whitney. Yeah. She seems to be handling it really well.

But even like Macy and Jacob are starting to crack. I know. Mikaela and Mace. Jace, but also Michaela, not even, I don't even think she cares enough about her husband to let it impact her feelings. I think just like her health. And she just seemed, I was actually,

I don't know if her motives behind dropping the Whitney stuff was because, like, it was received so poorly last season. Like she was so fibisina, like so miserable when it came to Whitney to the point that I think it endeared a lot of people to Whitney who weren't even team Whitney. Or if it was like a genuine thing, I'm glad she's like sort of letting go that she is much more likable this season, but she just looks like somebody who's like deeply,

unhappy. Like, and I think a lot of them like don't get to like honor the newborn time. Like they're literally walking around with three day old babies. Yeah. And that's also a part of the show that I like. I do feel for them. But like, oh, we're filming and I just had a baby. The baby comes everywhere. Yeah. Oh, they bring their babies everywhere. They're always carrying a car. Which I love. Me too. Because that's how it is, especially they're breastfeeding. Like if you want to go anywhere, your baby needs to. And so they just bring the baby. And I feel bad that they have to do that. But it's nice that they're able to. Yes, agreed. I think the show makes a lot of like accommodations. and like supports that sort of.

But you're working so much. Like some of it is just like you, I don't know. I just feel like they don't get to like. Nest. Yeah. No, they don't. And I'm sure they're like love what they're doing.

But I do feel like it's starting to wear on some of them. And their lives, like everyone thinks that's what you want. Oh my God. It would be a dream to be on a show and all the fame. And it's like, but they're not happier. Their marriages are all deteriorating.

Yeah. Their mental healths are deteriorating. They're doing so much all at once. They can't stop. because look, their husband stopped working. Like, they can't stop. Yeah, it's all on them. They cannot.

Yeah. And I feel bad for them. And it's not all it's cracked up to be. No, and I think like. Taylor is falling apart. Oh, yeah. I think for a lot of them, some of them have had, actually a lot of them, Taylor, Macy, Michaela, Whitney have all been pregnant on the show or Whitney was like first season,

just had the baby. No, and she then after, she has been pregnant. And remember she did the pea stick and the cake? Oh, yeah, of course. And then she had the baby. Right. So they've all, except for Jesse, when Jesse was on the toast, she said that, like, she started the show postpartum.

But I guess I don't know if she's, like, having more kids. So, like, that era is sort of behind her. And I feel like she doesn't get enough credit. She started the show with, like, a couple months old. Yeah. But I feel like in terms of all them, she's sort of positioned in like the best-ish kind of way because I don't think she's planning on having more kids. So, like, that era happened before the show.

Like, yes, the very tail end of it was caught up in the, but I feel like that's just really hard. Yeah. I think so too. and now they don't have a choice. Oh, and Lela. And Miranda. Yeah, or not having kids. But to me, I don't know why.

I think they're all like the same. There's no one, they're all just caswates. But to me, Miranda and Lela feel like. Friends of. Yeah, even though Laila's only one who like moves things along. No, and Laila's like, has a lot of confessionals and a lot of conversations. But I agree. I feel like maybe because she started that way.

She definitely started that way. As a friend of, yeah. And now it just seems like she's in that bucks. But she also doesn't get like it, she doesn't get dancing with the stars or back. Like Jen Whitney Taylor. Demi. What did DeMee get? Oh, not get anything.

They've all gotten like big opportunities. Then we have Demi and Jesse who are just cast members of the show. Even though Demi is literally not a cast member. That's true. She's a cast member. That's true. Macy and Michaela, they're having babies, but they are cast members of the show. Yeah, I put them in with Jesse and...

I agree. And then it's just Miranda and Layla. And Miranda was late and gives nothing. And Layla started as a friend of. And so she just feels that way. But she worked her way out. She's actually Loki giving us a lot. Yeah.

I wonder if they'll get paid the same. Did you see that they're all executive producers? I did see that. I would meant to say that too. When the first credits aired, it said executive producers all seven or however many other names of the ladies. I love that. Yeah. That gives, like, that their agents all work together.

I hope that they're all getting paid the same. It wouldn't be fair. Except maybe Taylor. And now, like if they want Whitney back, oh, yeah. They might have to pay her more. But that's where things get really complicated. Jersey Shore famously all negotiated. And there were times where Snooky was clearly more.

way more popular than Sammy. They all, the whole time, negotiated as a team. It sets a really bad precedent also for the show. Like with Real Housewives, when Lisa Rina's like, you know, Denise made $4 million, bring $4 million worth of coming to the show. And sometimes you can't. And I feel like it's better for producers to pay them all the same. They should all be paid really well.

When they talk about, I don't know if you're there yet, part of the reason they're mad at to me is like, before she officially quit, she's very picky in choosing. Like they all have to stay in a house together in L.A., and she gets to say at a hotel because she hates everyone. And so it's like, we're all showing up doing, you know, more work than you for a show that we're all on. And they didn't say anything about money,

but maybe if they are all getting paid the same and we're doing way more than you, filming way more scenes, staying in a house and you don't even have to film at your hotel, that makes sense. They do talk about money sometimes because the thing was to me and the agent and Jesse and how we'll take her money.

But we haven't heard anything since then. Yeah. But I also, like to me, how can she stay in a house with like all of these people who hate her? They need to figure out. They had that Kuombeye last season and they need to move forward or not. Why didn't she film for this season? Like, what is she?

doing she's like done she's like quit she's a and she's not gonna be on next season well she should be i like her well they even when i don't like like she's a good reality tv cast member even when she's doing stuff that i don't like and i'm not on her team doesn't mean like no and she also has like a crazy husband which is perfect he's really scary like i do not like they were singing were you okay oh my god how did we not talked about this were you okay no what song were they singing in um two colors yeah what the fuck and they didn't even say like what that was for was that just like an exercise make themselves feel good or was that like to put out as a project? And maybe music is coming. And like her yelling at him when she sounded worse than him. Like I was upset. She sounded worse.

Yeah. Oh, I thought I was just focused on like him because I'm like, oh, well, now he can't do anything. She's like flat. You're totally flat. And I see a true colors shining through. I forgot about that. Thank you so much for bringing that up. That was crazy. Like that was literally insane. And the fact that he just like stood there and like took all the criticism when like if anybody was saying that's a good man savanna no but like i just feel like it's like bottling up inside like you know what i mean no one can take all those shots from their part if it was someone in the studio saying you're flat too much chest but like you're literally doing every takes your heart out and your wife is like stupid ugly hate bad bad and i'm sorry the craziest part was she sounded just as bad as him like if not worse i didn't notice that i

deeply resonated with her in the studio yelling at her husband that he sounded bad. That was... I'm just telling you that's coming out the other end of him. I like that they aired that scene with literally no context. Like, I didn't even know that they liked to sing. I didn't know that this was something they both do. I didn't know. I liked that they didn't share what this project was for,

why they chose a Phil Collins song. Like, the lack of context made the whole thing so fucking funny. All I'll say is new music might be coming. Tune in like next season. It also might not. She should go on the mass singer. actually that's a great idea. Yeah.

Like, and I feel like she's going to go on. Great call. What other shows are there? For singing. And for people, like traitors. Right, traitors dancing with the stars mass singer. Special forces. I could see Taylor for Frankie Paul and special.

But after the back row, she can't handle it. But also, I don't know if they're only allowed to do ABC shows. Well, I'm sure ABC would let them do other shows, but they're certainly going to start with the ABC shows. So what else does ABC have? In terms of competitions? like I feel like that's the we need more yeah and then like what happens once you've done

all these shows like you ascend to the next level you do like the all star yeah I guess like then what I guess it could take a couple years like for anyone to like Dylan Efron like what's he going to do at a certain point? Yeah he's done a lot of them

I'm worried Traders dancing with the stars and what did we just say he's doing Netflix's yeah they're launching a show yeah what was it it's one of those house

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