The Toast - The Valeria Revolution with Valeria Lipovetsky: Wednesday, June 4th, 2025
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Welcome back to The Toast Jackson Friends Wednesday Hump Day. I am joined by Valeria Lipovetsky. Thank you so much for being here.
Thank you for having me and you pronounce my name so well.
Thank you. I pronounce everything wrong, like as a rule. I don't intend to do it.
I just pronounce it how I see it, but your name is very phonetic
It's pronounced the way that it's spelled that really works for me
You'll be surprised how many times and how many versions of it I've heard before so thank you. What do people say?
Valerie
Lipotecky like there's missing words letters like there's a lot of things. I understand. Okay. Well, yeah gold star for me
I finally got a friend.
It's a good start, we're all having a good start.
I'm so excited that you are here.
You are a massive creator, YouTuber,
TikToker, Instagrammer, podcaster.
I actually first discovered you through your podcast
because I feel like everyone has probably seen your face
on their feed at some point
because your clips like go really viral.
You also create a lot of viral content.
And now you also do the creator method,
which is like a online class to teach creators
how to become creators.
Yeah, it's like a community that we put together,
basically giving all the tools and all the information
that I've learned throughout the years.
Because I don't know about you,
but when I started on social media, it still like, it still is, it feels so lonely
and there's no one to talk to
and there's no really peers that you can,
hey, how much do you charge for this?
Hey, how much did you made here?
So we just kind of became that place
for a lot of creators and aspiring creators.
How long have you been doing the creator method?
It's been a year.
So we just celebrated a year of the community kind of coming together and it's been a year. So we just celebrated a year of the community
kind of coming together and it's been really rewarding.
And you know, it started as like,
oh, it's going to be discourses and whatever,
but it actually became much larger than that.
It's very much of a members club where they can network,
collaborate, ask questions, we're there.
We're constantly bringing kind of new people in,
in terms of experts in the industry and things like that. So just became like a fun little.
Community.
Yeah.
That's so nice.
Yeah, no, no, no, no.
Humble.
She's so humble.
I want to ask you more about that,
but I do want to know more about your genesis
into content creation,
because I feel like you have a comp.
How old are you?
I'm turning 35 in September.
You have accomplished so much.
Like you have so many businesses.
You have three children, three boys. Three boys, yeah. And how old are you? I'm turning 35 in September. You have accomplished so much. Like you have so many businesses.
You have three children, three boys.
Three boys, yeah.
And how old are they?
12, 10, and six.
I feel like people will be so shocked
to hear that who don't know.
And I feel like so many people might even follow you
and not even realize that about you.
Well, I have to say, when I started with social media,
motherhood was a huge like at the forefront of my content. But as my kids got older, I kind to say, when I started with social media, motherhood was a huge, like, at the forefront of my content.
But as my kids got older, I kind of moved away from it,
just to give them space.
So yeah, you'll be surprised how many people
have been following me that don't even know
how big the boys are.
Yeah, because they're so young.
And you have a 12-year-old.
Yeah.
That's so crazy.
But it's amazing how much you take on
and how much you can do.
And you're also really transparent about like burnout
and feeling like you don't give,
like you're not doing what you should be doing.
And it's so hard.
This conversation comes up a lot,
obviously like as just women in general,
but I feel like I've been having it more often
of like timing and kids and career.
And like, when is the right time to put your career
a little bit on the back burner?
Cause things do suffer
when you're prioritizing something else.
Yeah, I think the biggest challenge for women
is to understand that you can have it all
just not at the same time.
So the timeline, we're fighting against a traditional timeline,
our, you know, biological timeline.
And then the opportunities that are out there now for us
because you want to, you wanna, you can,
you have access to do everything that you want to do.
So it's very disorienting, I have to say.
Yeah, it is, but you're crushing it.
Listen, some days are better than others.
Yeah.
No, no, so how do you go about a typical day?
Like how do you devote how much time you wanna do
to like content creation?
Cause you also do in in addition to running your business
and doing a podcast which is called Not Alone,
which speaks to what you were talking about,
of the loneliness of content creation.
You also create a lot of viral reels.
I'm not on TikTok, but I'm sure it's TikTok-y content.
Yeah.
That stuff that you post on reels.
And thank you for posting it on Instagram
for those of us who aren't on TikTok.
I know, I try to be very inclusive when it comes to all the content.
How do I run through it? I mean, honestly, I have a team behind me,
and I think that people don't realize how much support, like I really over index on support,
and that's something that I had to learn the hard way. Speaking of burnout,
I feel like I did a classic mistake of most women were like, we just take it more and more upon
ourselves and we can do it more and more upon ourselves
and we can do it better than anyone else
and let me just figure this out.
And I crashed really badly.
And it was like a big wake up call when my husband, Gary,
was also my business partner came to me
and he's like, there's no novelty
in you running yourself to the ground.
Like you're not gonna be walking around with metal stars.
And I was like, oh yeah, metal stars, gold stars. They're
metal. And I was like, oh, you know, metal. Oh, metal. Yeah. God. Okay. They're both work.
The rain today is messing up with my English. So forgive me. But, uh, but yeah. And to me was like,
oh, you know what? You are so right. I don't know why I'm doing this. So started really
so right, I don't know why I'm doing this. So started really learning how to delegate and hire
and reinvesting in the business and it's been amazing.
So I feel like the way my week is built is based on
all the kind of aspects of my business and my life,
like Mondays are admin days, Tuesday content, Wednesday,
whatever, also keep a day for me to just sit
and stare at a wall.
I think that's so important.
It is.
I just need to let my thoughts go wild and run free
and that kind of feeds into the creative in me.
Yeah, you have to recharge your battery
because all of these ideas come from within,
but if you're only ever working,
then you don't have time for new ideas.
Yeah, I really wanna do less.
That's like my new goal in life.
I wanna do less.
I want to really learn the art of just like being.
Yeah.
Even yesterday, I had a conversation with my husband
cause I came to him with this like new crazy idea
and he's like, it's not, you're not being practical.
I'm like, that's not my fucking job.
You're supposed to be practical.
I need to be free.
You're the free spirit and the creative.
Yeah, you don't stop me.
Yeah, but that works.
So you work with your husband
and he's very much like the facts and figures.
Yes, very data driven and it really balances off
and I'm trying in the beginning of my entrepreneurial journey,
because he has more kind of business background,
so he knew how to really put this together.
But for me, I'm a baby entrepreneur.
This is my first business.
So when I was learning how to build this
and navigate my own entrepreneurial personality,
I was trying to do similar things to him.
Like, I was watching him being like, I need to learn trying to do similar things to him. Like I was watching him being like,
I need to learn how to do these things.
And I've realized that that's not the power of women
in leadership.
Like there's obviously certain things
that you need to have, you know, practicality, whatever,
but part of our strength is really like
the emotional intelligence and that place of like really bringing in the creative,
and coming up with this idea.
So I'm learning how to make more space for that.
That's like my superpower as an entrepreneur.
No, that's good.
And I feel like that's a lesson that you do have to learn
the hard way and like comes over time.
Cause when you're first starting out, it's like,
well, I don't wanna do less, I wanna do more.
Like, you know, that's a- Of course, like the Hassan mentality.
Yeah, that's a mark of success too.
And like, you do have to do the most
to get to a certain place.
And then you can like look down from the top of the mountain
and be like, okay, what do I want to water and like focus on?
Yeah, exactly.
So here we are.
Here we are.
So that's the era you're in.
That's the era I'm in, the do less era,
but read the most amount of benefit.
Yeah, no, that's a skill in itself.
And I feel like I reached that point
because the first, like I've been doing this for eight years
and you have to grind,
you have to really put in the extra, extra work.
You have to go through the burnout.
Like all these steps are part of the process.
And I feel like now I reached this point where I'm like,
okay, now I can like step back a little bit.
I have system in place, you know,
I know what I'm doing so I can take a breath now.
Yeah, so how did you get your start?
So for me, it started with actually a blog.
Well, actually, I'll take you a little bit back.
I came from modeling. So I started doing modeling at 15, 16 and had the opportunity to travel
the world, make money, it was a wonderful experience.
Met my husband, got married at 21 and I've realized that I want to start a family.
I don't want to do modeling anymore.
So I asked myself, okay, what am I going to do next?
The next thing that was really interesting to me
was nutrition.
So I went to learn nutrition and when I finished school,
I was like, I'm gonna open up an office.
Open up an office, hated seeing people,
and I realized early on that I'm not a like
one-on-one person at all.
So I have this knowledge, I wanna help people,
what do I do?
I went on social media, I started a blog,
it was called The Modern Fox. I want to help people, what do I do? I went on social media, I started a blog,
it was called The Modern Fox,
and it was 2017, I would say.
I did that for a little bit,
realized that it's not challenging at all,
like didn't really stretch my creativity.
So I found YouTube and I was like,
okay, this looks really scary, but also fun.
So I started there and it was just, in the beginning was like, okay, this looks really scary, but also fun. So I started there and it was just,
in the beginning was nutrition,
then it got into vlogging, then beauty fashion,
naturally kind of seeped into other areas of my life.
And did you have a moment where you really
growed exponentially or it's just slow over time?
Was there a platform that you went to
that sort of catapulted?
YouTube was my first platform that I really focused on.
So it really brought me that really engaged audience
that was very invested in my content.
And I think that was like the best foundation for me.
Then I moved to Instagram
and kind of learned how to navigate that.
But it took me years of experimentation.
Like it wasn't this viral, you know, right off the bat.
And the biggest shift happened, I would say during COVID
because we were locked in the house.
And I was just, I woke up one morning
when they locked everyone in.
And I was just like, I have a purpose.
I need to use social media to make people feel good.
And I just went ham.
Like I don't remember that time
because I was filming in my room 24 seven.
That's such a good use of time.
It was insane.
But I truly felt like this is my calling right now.
This is how I'm supposed to show up.
So I started doing Instagram lives every day.
I was doing workouts.
I was just living online.
It was insane.
I look back and I'm like, who was that animal?
No, I know, but that's what it takes
to like get to where you are now.
Yeah, you were, yeah, I was obsessed.
So when did you start your podcast?
So the podcast started about a year, a year and a half ago.
And I had a rough start with the podcast.
Really? I don't know if you-
What's your thoughts on podcasting?
Well, first of all, if I'm being honest,
I walked into this being like,
I've been doing social media.
I know how to be on camera.
Like, no problem.
And when I sat down, I got humbled so fast
because it's a completely different platform,
different kind of delivery.
And I've realized that I don't know my voice in a long form.
Yeah.
Like I can do a quick 15 seconds, no problem.
But sitting there for an hour.
What was the format of your show when you started?
The format of my show was very complex
because the Virgo in me was like,
let's just give so many layers to make it feel so valuable.
So it was a guest and then in between the guests
was a monologue, no, I made it so complicated. So it was a guest and then in between the guests was a monologue. No, I made it so
complicated. Yeah. It was this whole like you're in my head type of thing, you know? Got it.
It did not work and it was also exhausting to do. Yeah. No, it's a lot of work and I think a lot of
people who are on social media are like, okay, well duh, I'll do a podcast. I like to talk. I'm
on camera, like my personality, but then you don't realize it social media are like, okay, well, duh, I'll do a podcast. I like to talk, I'm on camera, like my personality.
But then you don't realize it's actually much like,
it's almost like simpler and more complicated than that.
And especially when it comes to the conversation,
like it is meant to just be like simple and interesting.
You don't have to be like doing the most for an hour.
Yeah, so I am known for doing the most
until I realized that if it's not broken, don't fix it.
Obviously there were enough podcasts out there
to show me that you just need to come
and just have a conversation.
Yeah.
To me was like, that's not enough, I need more.
So I did all that and I kind of sat with myself
listening to these episodes and I'm like,
this is a train wreck.
So season two, we pulled back and really went back to basics, but it is a train wreck. So season two, we pulled back
and really went back to basics,
but it is a journey and I have such a newfound respect
for podcasters, like you guys been doing such an amazing job
for all these years to really be able to come on
and speak in the most like open raw way.
It's not so simple as people think.
Cause you get into your own head.
Yeah, no, it's true.
And everyone thinks like, oh, I could do a podcast
and go ahead, try.
It's not so simple, but when you get it right,
it's really so enjoyable for people
and to do it yourself and put that side of yourself
out there, I feel like even the way I think
about my own social media,
it's like I'm my most myself on the podcast.
I take my time to say what I'm thinking.
I can work through a thought.
I don't have to make a statement in 60 seconds
and there's just no context.
You can tell a story, you can take your time.
You could just go on tangents.
That's just how my brain is more.
But do you feel that was from the beginning
or did you build that to that?
I feel like in the beginning, the podcast,
and probably just like you said,
like we were, when we started, I was maybe 25, I think,
and Claudia would have been 23.
And I felt like, I feel like the podcast was more reflection
of our like social media personalities.
Just like really like,
but I think our social medias have changed over the years
and being like more p paired back and curated almost.
And the podcast has just widened too and just is like deeper. But that's also a function of us
growing up and becoming mothers and just like the conversations are deeper. I mean, we're having like
so much fun in the beginning and it's always been fun and it's always been like pretty successful
and popular. But I just think think the range of it has changed.
Yes, also I have to mention,
you made such a good point, when you become a mother,
my kids especially, they're 12, 10,
they watch what I do, their friends watch what I do.
Oh really?
So not only am I in my own head,
I also have all these children in my head,
so whatever I say, I gotta think, like is it gonna embarrass my kids?
Is it something I'm gonna regret?
I hate it.
Yeah, that's a tough dynamic.
My kids are still really little.
Say all the stuff you have in your head right now
because it's gonna become filtered.
No, I don't even know what will change about what I filter.
Like I can't even predict it, you know?
But I'm sure there will be things where I'm like,
okay, that's not my favorite.
I don't want the teacher to hear that.
Like, that's really crazy to think about.
So that's where I'm at, just like all in my own little head.
Oh, there's so much going on in your head.
So much going on.
But yeah, but I wake up every morning being like, okay,
go out there and just say what's in your mind.
And that's working for you.
Sometimes it's like, yeah, sometimes.
Yeah, so I'm sure you get this question all the time,
like what advice would you give to someone
who wants to start out?
Like what is your number one piece of advice?
I mean, I think that everyone needs to get very comfortable
with having a long experimentation phase
because I think so many people when they start,
whatever project you pick up,
you kind of assume that you're gonna just get it.
And you're missing the most vital aspect of the journey,
which is making a fool of yourself,
putting out a version of yourself
that you're like looking back being like,
ah, that's not really me, and then tweaking it.
And trying different formats and figuring out,
it's a lot of play to see what sticks even for yourself. It took
me many years to find my voice. So, so many people are trying to skip that time. And I
always say like, don't rush to get discovered. Trust me. That's not you want to figure it
out before you get discovered. You don't want to be figuring it out when you have so many
eyes on you. But I feel like people are just like, I want the eyeballs. I don't care. Well, because I always see these people
coming out of nowhere, right?
Yeah.
But, and listen, there are cases like that for sure,
but for longevity, you wanna do the opposite.
Yeah, and like, what advice do you have,
when you started out, do you ever feel like
the people who know you, who are watching you,
who are like, I don't know, Facebook friends,
or just like people you went to high school with who are watching you, or Facebook friends, or just people you went to high school
with that are watching you doing content,
that's the weirdest dynamic to me.
Oh my God.
That I just sort of have to disassociate
and be like, yeah, whatever, that's not me,
I got into my thing.
Well, that's what also threw me off in the beginning
because it was like, what is me, what is not me,
what am I sharing?
Because I don't want my neighbor
to know these details about me, but I don't mind if strangers know this about me. Right, no, it's so weird how it's like, what is me? What is not me? What am I sharing? Because I don't want my neighbor to know these details about me.
But I don't mind if strangers know this about me.
Right.
No, it's so weird how it's like you
feel more comfortable with strangers.
But it's like, I wouldn't tell this to my neighbor.
Correct.
So there was definitely a lot of figuring out there.
But listen, you heard all the remarks, all the like, oh,
what you're doing is so cute.
And I'm like, yeah, cool.
And you just got a soldier on
because I did see the bigger vision.
Like I know what I understood what it could be.
But for me, it was more like breaking my own
like limiting beliefs and my own barriers
that I set for myself.
So those remarks were just like another example
of if I'm gonna continue to care so much
about what people think, I'll never do anything in my life.
Right, whether it's this or something else.
Social media open a bit, whatever it is that I wanna do.
So I'm like, this is a project and this is for me,
like I'm doing this for me.
So it has been probably the best like therapy,
exposure therapy.
Yeah, it's true.
What were you like growing up?
Like, were you a shy person or like very outgoing?
So shy.
If I really wanted to be seen,
but I also hid at any opportunity
that was presented to me to like showcase myself.
Yeah.
Always felt like not very gray mouse,
always felt like not good enough.
I don't know where it's coming from.
Yeah. So weird.
But then do you still feel shy today
or you've like pushed through it because you have to?
I don't think it's shyness anymore.
I think it's sometimes these feelings of imposter syndrome,
but I have to say like now turning 35,
it's really starting to shift.
Like I really don't care.
Yeah, no, and you're so, from an outsider's perspective,
you're so not the imposter.
You're the real deal.
Thank you.
Thank you.
But I'm sure you wake up some days and you're like,
what am I doing?
Who cares about this?
Yeah.
Like, what mark am I leaving on this earth?
I think about these things, don't you?
I do, but then I also am so busy
that it actually saves me from a lot of doom scrolling,
reading comments.
Some days I just, I don't have the time to read
all the negative things that people have to say.
And it's wonderful, it's better that way.
But do you ever just glance at it
and is it alarming for you
when there's no negative comments?
Interesting.
I feel like I do read probably majority of like comments
that come through on like my own forums.
And I just feel like I know what haters will say.
So it's like, it's not alarming
if they happen to got busy that day and they didn't say it.
Like I know they're still lurking.
Like they're just busy today, they'll be back tomorrow.
And I'm happy for them because they should get busy.
Like, and then maybe they'll move on.
I think I don't have enough haters.
Do you have haters?
I think I do, but I feel like mine are too busy
to leave comments and it bothers me.
Oh, do you think they're like hating like
in their group chat?
Like they're not like hating publicly.
They're like, you know, with their friends hating.
I don't know, or maybe just with themselves,
but I just want them to be part of the community.
They show yourself.
They're good for engagement.
They really are.
I just also think it's a good sign
that you are evoking different type of emotion. You know what I mean? It's also, maybe it's a good sign that you are evoking
different type of emotion.
You know what I mean?
It's also, maybe it's the stage that I'm in,
but I've always like my whole life,
I really want it to be liked.
And now I realize that it's like making me very vanilla,
operating in that way.
So I'm like, okay, I wanna make sure
that there's enough spice in there
so someone will get motivated to write something.
Yeah, no, to have any sort of feeling,
good, bad, otherwise.
It's more interesting that way.
I was just talking to another influencer on Monday
who came and did the show and she said the same thing.
She said she's like, almost for a while
was operating so scared to offend
or say something wrong
So she's like put herself in this box
That's boring and she's not like having the fun that she wants to have and she's like I'm not doing that anymore
Like I'm gonna be me she's starting a YouTube like she wants to get her voice out there
And I think it's so things are so much more interesting that way
I feel like even as a fan of other influencers like I'm a bigger fan when I see really what you're made of not when like
You're hot on the high and everything's good. Like when times are tough, who are you? Exactly. So time will tell.
I'm working on it, okay? Okay, but it's just, you know, I don't think you're vanilla. I think you're
crushing it and I think you are setting a great example for women that you really, that you can
like be a boss. You can work with your husband, you can work with your family, you can have three kids,
and I don't know what's going on in your head,
but it looks like things are going well.
Obviously a lot.
There's a lot going on, but all good things, honestly.
At the end of the day, for me, as long as I get to wake up
every morning and feel challenged and always kind of feel
like there's a certain level of discomfort,
that to me is a good sign.
Yeah. Like I don't want to feel too relaxed, you know what I mean? So I'm there.
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How many languages do you speak?
Three.
And you are born in Russia, correct?
Yeah. And when did you move from Russia? When I was two. I left Russia when I was two. And
you moved to Israel? Yeah. How long did you live in Israel? Until the age of 20. Wow.
And that's where you started modeling? Yes. Oh cool. I can see you being Miss Israel.
I wasn't Miss Israel, but I started working in the industry there and then
Right after I started traveling. My first trip was Paris and then it was Tokyo for a month and a half at 16
But myself it was amazing. Do you have siblings? Yes. I have a younger brother and an older brother
Oh nice. Are you close with them? Yes, that's so fun. And now you have all boys
I'm from all girls and now I'm having,
so far I have two sons, I'm expecting a boy.
A third boy?
Oh my God, welcome to the club.
Yeah, no, I'm excited.
I'm really excited, but it's been such a change for me.
Like I only grew up with girls.
I like never met a boy until my husband.
Right.
I truly feel like God really gave me exactly what I needed.
I wouldn't know what to do with a girl.
And I actually have, I'm in awe of my friends that have girls.
I think that's a whole other set of skills that I'm not sure that I have.
Yeah, no, they say that like boys are really physically challenging,
and you'll be running around a lot, but like girls are very mentally challenging,
and it's just like mind games, especially as they get older.
Yeah, I also like the daughter, you know,
a mother type of dynamic scares me.
Like I have a healthy relationship with my mom.
Yeah.
But I've also seen enough of the unhealthy ones
and that's scary.
It is really scary.
So.
With boys there's less of that uncertainty.
They love their moms.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And then at some age, it's like the dad comes full force.
Like my husband now is in his full father,
disciplinary raising men era for him.
So I'm just here like living my life.
Yeah, I love that.
What was I, I was just gonna ask you one more question,
but it's escaped me.
So, oh, you married your husband young, which you shared, and you talk a lot about that.
What are your thoughts on getting married young?
So, just because we were talking about it yesterday
with another co-host who got married young.
A lot of common themes here this week at Jackson Friends.
Yeah, did you pick us like for a reason?
Well, I picked all of like the most premium
Miami influencers, but no, these topics come up a lot,
just talking to women, working women,
a lot of women who are married.
I actually think you're the first guest that I've had
since I started this maternity leave that has kids.
So that's really a nice window into new conversation for me.
Yes, with marrying Young, I mean, it's different kinda,
I have a few different point of views here.
So I married young, but I also married someone older.
So he made, you know, he had his life experience.
He did whatever he needed to do when we met
and decided to get married, very rooted, strong foundation.
And you need that to me.
Like I can't imagine marrying young
with someone who's at the same age.
Because you are going through so many versions of yourself
that I don't think that I'm, especially for a woman,
I don't know if a young man can withstand that
because he's on his own going through his own kind of
process.
So there's a lot of things that play here.
So I'm happy that I'm married young, but that he was older.
Yeah, no, that's a good point.
Cause if you're each changing,
then the odds that you wind up being both people
that wanna stay together and love each other still
are smaller than if like one person is like settled,
constant, like knows who they are.
And like you get to figure yourself out.
Yeah, and they also, you don't have certain conversations
that are very vital for life.
Right, but your older husband is sort of moving
the relationship forward, given his knowledge.
Exactly, exactly.
So he knew, and I always remind him, I'm like,
hey, here's another Valeria Revolution coming.
I can feel it.
I'm turning.
The Valeria Revolution title.
The Valeria Revolution is coming.
35 is going to be a shit show for him and he knows it
and I'm just like, just, you know, be grounded,
patient, I'll be back.
What do you think 35 is gonna be like for you?
So I have, I've been doing this research out there.
Every time I sit with women, I always ask them,
what age do you remember yourself?
Usually older women.
Like, what is such a clear vision?
And most of them say 35, 36.
Like, I don't know what it is.
But even for me, when I think about my mother,
I remember her at 36.
Interesting.
So something happens there.
Okay.
And I'm about to find out, so I'll let you,
I'll keep you posted.
Yeah, keep us posted and you'll podcast about it
and you'll let us know.
I'll keep you posted, but yeah,
there's something is happening and I'm very excited for it.
So Gary, brace yourself.
Well, you know what they say?
That you change completely as a person every seven years.
And so if that's true, then 35 is the fifth cycle of seven, like it's divisible by seven.
So like you're going through another change. Yeah. And maybe it's like the big one. How old are you?
32. Did you have a Saturn return? At 27. Did you? I only know what that is for music, but I don't
know what it means because like Ariana Grande sings about her Saturn coming in,
Kacey Musgraves, and I'm like, OK.
All the big philosophers.
And it's like, oh, all the big philosophers.
Can you explain to me what it is?
OK, so I...
My Saturn has returned.
That's it. That is the theme song for it as well.
I can't. I don't have the right maybe explanation,
but what I've experienced was that at 27,
for me it started at 27, 28.
I also had my third at 28.
So that was a combination of both hormonally falling apart
and healing and then that.
It just felt like you look around and you're like,
who am I?
What is this?
Where do I belong?
Like just really big questions
that kind of catch you out of nowhere.
And it's very much of a mind game
because for me, I was in this position where I'm married.
I just had my third child.
Like everything looks amazing, feels good, yet it doesn't.
So there's this disconnect to yourself.
So it's kind of like a journey of really reevaluating
everything you thought about yourself
and like finding new definitions.
You know what's funny?
So I got married when I was 26.
So now thinking about like what I was doing at 27,
I do think that I had a big like shift in my mentality,
but at the time maybe it was because my Saturn returned.
At the time I thought it was because of my circumstances,
that was COVID for me and it was just a year of just
figuring out what I think and how I feel about things
and I felt like I got stronger in my sense of self.
And I thought it was just because it was a long year,
but maybe because my Saturn returned.
I'm telling you, you're asking big questions,
but you get curious and you're open to explore
what that means.
That's when it all started for me.
That's my origin story.
There you go.
So mine finished at like 32.
I had a long one.
I feel like I'm still in mine.
I do.
I feel like I'm on the tail end,
but yeah, this all started when I was 27.
I'm telling you, it's fascinating.
And then you're gonna have a couple of years
where you can kind of like chill a little bit.
Okay.
And then we go again.
And then we go again.
And, but you don't know what the next Genesis is yet.
No.
You're about to find out what we're.
I'm about to find out and I will share it with the world.
Okay, thank you so much.
I'm so excited.
Pray for me.
No, but it's the best apparently.
It's the best one.
I don't know. There's some, I heard 50s is really like. Well, the it's the best apparently. It's the best one. I don't know.
There's some, I heard 50s is really like.
Well, the Kardashians say 40s.
Your 40s are the best.
That's what Kim and Courtney have said
and like now Chloe's 40.
Do you watch Kardashians?
No.
But you know what I love about Americans?
And I mean, I aspire to be an American.
We're on green cards.
So like, I can't wait to become
Yeah, to be one of them.
The American Valeria.
But what I really love is the references
that you're giving me.
You're mentioning Saturn Return, like Ariana Grande is,
you're talking about these revolutions, the Kardashians.
It's so funny because usually I have so many more references,
but because we've just been talking about personal stuff,
there's not that many, but in a given given show, like references out my butt, like movie
quotes, like I'll just throw them in song, start singing.
But I love that.
I love that it's so-
Is that an American thing?
I'm very American.
I think so.
Yeah, but to me, I don't say it as like a negative thing.
I think it's so easy to digest.
Yeah, I don't think of it.
When I say that, I say it with proud.
I'm proud American.
Yeah. I'm on my way. You're a proud aspiring American. Yes, proud aspiring
American. And Canadian, Israeli, Russian. Yes. Anywhere else? There's a lot of things going on. No wonder I have these like...
Where's been your favorite place to live? Here. Yeah. I love America. Like love
America. And I feel like people need to... If the immigration office is watching, she loves America.
I love America, please give me my citizenship.
I think that we need to be more vocal about it.
Like obviously no country is perfect,
but I understand the American dream.
People rag on American a lot,
but there's also like a lot of really good things
that people don't focus on.
Yes, I don't think a freedom like this exists
anywhere else in the world.
So just putting it out there. think a freedom like this exists anywhere else in the world. So
for air conditioning like this. Correct. That's the air conditioning is really good, specifically in Florida. Yeah. Well, we've had to we've really actually I saw another country
has really strong air. Oh, I think it's Dubai has really good air conditioning. Have you been? No,
have you? Yeah. Yeah. It's like, Vegas, but fancier, bigger, bolder.
That's what I've seen. Yeah. And with great air, they say like, I think the
bus stops are air conditioned. Yeah. The order that they have there, I feel like
that we need to crack the code there, like what they're doing there and bring
it here because the order is insane. Well, cause I was just watching,
do you know Caroline Stamberry?
She's from Real Housewives and she lives in Dubai,
but she was saying how there's like no crime there.
She like doesn't ever lock her door.
No one does.
You could leave a Rolex on a pool lounge
and like no one would even come and pick it up.
Cause it's haram.
Yeah. Oh, what's haram about it?
So haram means it's like a crime, you know what I mean?
To steal?
Yeah, like there's things that you do that haram,
that it's just very, it's against the fate.
You're doing something bad, you know?
And people are scared of it.
I thought it was because they have harsh laws,
like in punishment.
But also it's a religious country,
and they have values, you know, like very strong values.
Haram is like a big thing.
Yeah.
But then yeah, also they kick you out and like you can never go in again.
So the probably the law is also.
Yeah, it cuts both ways.
But I think it's really good for like their crime levels.
No, it's wonderful.
And then she says when she comes here, she's all of a sudden like what am I wearing?
Like my bat, you know, because especially I think she was in New York when she was
talking about this Caroline Stanbury.
And it's like, yeah, well, yeah, New York is is not that I know.
Yeah.
We'll get there one day, one day.
Let's see how it goes.
But now we're going to do the Fast Five stories.
I have great, Valeria centric stories because I have a feeling that you don't care
like that much about American celebrities, yeah?
What are your-
I want to care.
Okay, teach me how to care.
No, the thing is you get to a level
of caring about celebrities,
and it's like this level of enlightenment,
and then you like don't care,
because you see them too much.
You know what I mean?
Like you've seen too much.
But that's kind of where this show is at.
Right, that you just, you don't care as much,
but you know a lot.
We know a lot.
We care.
We care.
But then it's like, you get to a point with certain people
where like you just know too much about them
and it's not interesting anymore.
So maybe this is a good place for me because
I don't care, but I also don't know.
Yeah, it's like we both don't care,
but like for completely different reasons.
But I want to care a little bit,
cause I tell you, I've been having certain conversations
and people been, I don't know why this year,
everybody's been dropping Gossip Girl references around me.
I've never watched it.
I don't know what they're talking about.
I feel like you would like Gossip Girl
because it's very fashion.
The writing is good.
New York looks amazing.
I think you would like it.
Would you make a list for me
of like an American starter kit?
You know what else you need to watch?
What?
Desperate Housewives.
Have you heard of that?
The reality show?
No, no, that's real.
I wouldn't make it up. Oh, okay. Desperate Housewives is, it heard of that? The reality show? No, no, that's real. I wouldn't make it up.
Desperate Housewives is, it was a scripted show on ABC.
It aired in like 2000.
Oh yes, with Eva Longoria.
Yeah. Okay.
It's amazing.
Okay. So Gossip Girl and Desperate Housewives.
Yeah. I think you'll like those.
I think I can do it.
But do you think that will make me have relevant conversations today?
No, no. Not unless you're hanging out with me and Claudia. For relevant conversations today? No, not unless you're hanging out with me and Claudia.
For relevant conversations today,
I'm gonna have to think about that.
But I feel like is there a forum that people go on
and they're just.
You know what you need to do.
Like not to self promote.
You need to listen to this show every day.
Because we'll give you the news that you need to know
and we'll give you like a take on it
that you could just regurgitate
even if you're like not really invested in the conversation.
Just like a download, just so you know what's up.
Like here's what's going on with Taylor Swift,
here's what's going on with Justin Baldoni and Blake Lively.
Have you heard about that one?
Oh yeah. Okay, okay.
Against my will, by the way.
Same, same, against my will.
The Kardashians we love and yeah,
you'll get like the news that you need to know
with like also like a fun spin on it.
Okay, let's go.
Even if you listen like once a week to the toast.
Cause I find that people who do podcasts
don't listen to them.
Like myself, I don't really listen to a lot of other podcasts
unless there's like something like, oh, I T spill it.
Why don't you listen to podcasts?
Well, a few reasons.
One, when I have time to myself to listen
to what I wanna listen to and not be listening
to the Spider-Man soundtrack, I wanna listen to music.
I love music and that's how I wanna spend time in my car
if I have headphones.
I don't even own a headphones anymore
because when would I be using headphones?
Yeah.
I love to listen to music.
Then also I feel like the podcasts
that I would be interested in that like cover subjects that I like are
Maybe similar to this show and I wouldn't want when you listen to a podcast all the time
You like kind of start to talk like yeah, I wouldn't want a lot of influence from the outside
Yeah, I wouldn't want to like start taking on anyone else's personality or like inadvertently or intentionally
So that's another reason and yeah yeah, because we do this,
we're very much in pop culture,
like half my day is devoted to this.
I'm kind of good on that.
And the second half of the day,
I'm with my kids, but if I have free time,
I prefer to watch TV or read a book.
It's just not my medium of choice.
I feel like I don't listen for the same reasons.
I don't want to mold myself unconsciously into someone that I like to
listen to. Cause I feel like it happens naturally. Yeah. So I stay away from it.
And it's like a nice thing, but not if you've got to have your own thing going on.
Yeah. So that, but then if there's someone has a guest on,
so like an interview where they're like, you know, spilling tea or whatever.
I'll like, yeah, for one offs, I'll listen
if someone's talking about like something
that their personal life and I'm like,
oh, I'm a fan of them, I would listen.
So it just depends.
Okay. Yeah.
But that's what I found with most podcasters.
So I know it's a tall task for you to listen to this show.
I can do it.
But if you're ever, if you're going to a dinner party
with like people who like, like this stuff and you want to just like be in the know, hit them
with like one episode of the toast will catch you up. I won't be surprised if in
my citizenship test they'll be like asking questions like that and I'll be
like well actually I'm fully versed in it because of the toast. Well what's
funny is we have a patreon channel where we do like bonus content every month we
do extra five episodes and we've done the citizenship test as an episode where we like
both saw if we could pass. So maybe you should listen to that one because we also like talk
about the answers and maybe there are some good like ways to remember the answers. You'd be like,
well, Jackie said this or Claudia said that. So that's a good way to study.
Okay.
For anyone out there.
There weren't any pop culture's questions on the citizenship list.
Not unless like George Washington is a pop culture icon,
which I think he is.
I think we should make him one.
I think we should.
Have you been seeing those AI photos
of the founding fathers?
Yes.
What they would look like today?
Yes, it's amazing.
Like seriously cuties.
Have you seen the AI biblical videos?
Obsessed.
Like that's, this is a technology
and just like a format I can get behind.
I agree.
It's like, wake up with me a day in the life
of a coal miner in the 1700s.
We're building Pittsburgh.
Yeah, or like when Moses separated the sea
and people like, he's like, hey friends,
today we are starting the day with, you know,
letting my people go.
He's like this, he's like, hey fam,
I know you've all been asking,
we're gonna leave today. I love that.
I like that too, I've really been embracing AI
because I feel like before it destroys us as a humanity,
we should enjoy it.
I think it's a state of mind.
If you look at all these advancements
as something that's threatening your existence,
then I think maybe you're not seeing the potential.
I just feel like we need to over-index now
on things that only humans can do.
Yeah, like podcasts.
We've asked AI to write an episode of The Toast.
Can you do one?
It's so bad, which is so good for us.
Okay, that's good.
That's good, right?
Yeah.
We can't be replaced by robots.
Emotional intelligence is not there yet. Right. Yet. I don't know. I really can't imagine a world
where it would be like where I really want to get. They haven't lit like that makes so
sense to me. Listen, I just want a robot in my house to do all the tasks that it's just
a waste of time for me. I want a neurolink chip in my brain for all the things I like
think that I need to write down
that I forget before I can write them down.
That would be so helpful.
They're working on, Elon is working on it.
Neuralink, watch this space.
And you put it in your brain?
They implant the chip into your brain,
which is not my favorite,
but the idea that there's something in your brain
that can record your thoughts that you want them to record
to remind you later or whatever it is.
But do you then worry about them using that information?
Yeah, for sure. I would never do it.
Okay. But the idea is like, nice.
But like so many times I'm in the shower, I'm like, damn, I need a Neuralink. I can't write this down.
Yeah.
Okay, Ilan, get with it.
What kind of car do you drive?
It's a Mercedes. It's this truck, what is it called?
Oh, the G Wagon?
Yes.
Oh, cool.
I know, it's very basic Miami.
Is it?
Is that the classic Miami car?
I would say so.
I see so many of them, which is also nice
because it's nothing like unique.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a cool car though.
Yeah, and I have the older model, which I like.
That's cool.
I need like, I want a vintage car.
What would your next car be, do you think like a little car?
No, it will never be a little car because I am a savage on the road
So I need a big car to make sure everyone sees me and that I'm coming. Where did you learn how to drive in Israel?
That should explain everything to you. That's so funny, but you're probably a really good
driver. I think so. Yeah, it's good to be aggressive. Like I have really good reflexes. I'm just like,
whoop! You know? Yeah, so I feel like I can really navigate the roads well, but I don't think a small
car for me would do this world a favor. Okay, thank you for your service in your big car.
You need a cyber truck,
even though that's actually also scary.
Gives me headaches.
Being in a Tesla?
Being in anything that Elon Musk created,
I don't know what's going on there is the why,
I don't know what it is.
The EMFs they say.
Yes.
But I drive a Tesla and I have my,
like I am someone who's prone to migraines my whole life
and they don't give me headaches, which is just odd.
Apparently there's like a little switch that you put
and then it changes the way something operates.
I don't know what it is and then you don't get headaches.
So maybe you did a little switch.
Maybe it's been on that setting.
Yeah. Yeah.
So. But I've heard that,
but also like the EMFs are really only
when the car is charging, not when it's on the road.
Like you shouldn't sit in the car when it's charging.
I think for me at this point, it's a placebo effect.
Like I've decided that Teslas make me nauseous.
So that will be it forever for me.
Well, I just, they're like as close as we got
to a robot right now is why I mention it.
Self-park.
Do you use all these features?
No, no.
I've only used, I've used self-park like twice here
because I don't know how to parallel park.
I've never done self driving.
I only learned how to drive when I moved down here
and I got my license two years ago.
So driving is just like, it's a lot for me.
Did you feel like you just like a new whole found freedom?
Superwoman, there's nothing I can't do.
You can't even imagine. Like I, so I grew up up in the city like someone it would have been time to get my
License I never even took lessons or took a test because it's not like I was getting a car
We just like, you know used public transit or took taxis or ubers
And then I lived in the city until I moved here and there were so many times where like it would have been really nice
To have my license like in college. I went to college, upstate New York, like could never drive myself anywhere.
But then when we moved down here, I'm like, I have to learn how to drive.
Like I have to be able to just even just in an emergency situation.
And now I drive.
I'm really proud of you.
Thank you so much.
It was the biggest thing I've ever had.
One of the biggest things I've ever had to like do and overcome.
And it's harder as you get older.
Absolutely.
Yeah, Absolutely.
So you're like the opposite sort of driver as me.
I am the opposite sort of driver and to me,
I couldn't wait to get my license because I'm just,
I operate from a feeling of like,
people are suppressing me and I just need all the tools
to free myself. Yeah, freedom.
It's freedom.
Yes.
So I am very like, I'm in awe of you
because I can't imagine learning it as like an adult.
Yeah.
You just know too much.
You know too many of the dangers.
You're scared, you have too much to lose.
Like when you're 16, 17, just like whatever.
You only have like to gain and it's like,
get me out of here.
Exactly.
Yeah. No, it's so, so true.
So I'm glad that, I'm glad I've checked that off my list.
What's next for you on your list?
Oh, there's something, gardening.
That's next for me. That's crazy.
I know, but like I hate buying herbs from the store.
I never have the ones that I need when I need them
and the ones that I buy, I don't use and they go bad.
So I just want to be able to pluck them from my garden.
I think you have a romanticized idea of it.
I don't think that's how it works.
Really?
Explain.
I just feel like you go on this journey of gardening
and you plant the seeds and they grow a little bit
and then it dies and then you feel like a failure.
Like it's a much longer process.
Oh, well, I do intend to have upkeep,
like help with my garden.
I won't be starting the garden.
I will be hiring someone to build me a full-blown garden.
But I do-
And then come to attend to it.
Well, that I wanna learn how to attend to it, you know?
Right.
That I do wanna know.
But no, I'm not gonna be like waiting on my seeds.
Got it.
There'll be someone else's seeds.
So it's a little bit flex.
Like I'm not gonna be starting to harden from the ground up,
but like I wanna be able to water my garden.
You see, this is what I'm saying.
Like America is so great.
Like I wanna do this but I don't-
Like gardening is like in Israel, they garden.
Yeah, but they do like the long-
They farm.
Yeah, it's like a whole thing, you know?
They treat it as like this art, but here you can dabble.
It's true, I dabble. That's what I love. You dabble whole thing, you know, they treat it as like this art, but here you can dabble. It's true, I dabble.
That's what I love, you dabble in things, you know?
What do you wanna learn how to do?
What do I learn?
Oh my God, so many things.
I feel like I should be painting.
Okay.
I also feel like I should learn how to,
I like take dance classes, like pole dancing.
Ooh. Yeah. Cause I feel like it will help with my upper body strength like pole dancing. Ooh.
Yeah, cause I feel like it will help
with my upper body strength.
For sure.
Yeah.
And what else?
I really wanted to do, what's the one when you go up
and like it's open mic, no, how do you call it?
Stand up?
Yeah, but improvise.
Improv.
Improv, yes.
You should do it.
I'm just really scared.
I have to still like build a. The confidence. The confidence, yeah. That to me it. I'm just really scared. I have to still like build the confidence.
That to me is the scariest job in the world
would be like being a standup comedian.
That's what I said.
We had a friend over and he's a standup comedian.
And I just looked at him and I'm like,
I don't know how you go out there
in a place of people that you don't know.
And you just start telling your jokes and it's quiet.
And then maybe one cackle, somebody's like drinking,
you can hear them drinking the water.
Like there's so many elements
that I would just paralyze me.
I would run away crying.
No, I completely agree.
My sister Claudia does stand up
and I could, like I'm infinitely impressed by her.
She's done like two tours
and she's done it like in a really big way,
but I could never, just up there alone.
But did she ever have a,
like she's standing there telling the joke
and the audience gives you nothing.
But the thing is like,
she sort of leapfrogged over that painful period
because she started standup when she had an audience,
like a following already.
So like she would sell tickets to a comedy club and all the people there are
like people who love her and they know what to expect.
Like they're there and it's going to most likely be good because like they have
the same sense of humor and they know what to expect.
So that's a very privileged experience.
It's a very privileged experience.
But one day just going out stage in a different,
like in just a random bar and just start spitting jokes.
No, it's so crazy. Oh my God.
Literally having an out of body experience.
No, it's so true. So yeah, one day I'll do it and I won't tell anybody.
And I just go to like a random place and just start improv-ing. Okay.
I'll let you know. Let me know. Let me know. Maybe that's at 35.
That's what happens. At 36. Yes.
I'm going to come to my family and be like,
guys, I decided to change up my career trajectory
and become a comedian.
But it's actually in line with what you do.
Like if you wanted to be a comedian for real,
like you have so many of the platforms that you have
like would be so great for a comedy career.
Like the digital space and comedy
like really work nicely together.
Go together.
But that's why I'm so passionate about creators
and the creator economy in general,
because you can do anything.
You know what I mean?
I wanna be a comedian, I'll be a comedian.
I wanna do something else, I'll do something else.
I wanna start selling candles, I'll do that.
Like you, there's no limits
because you build your personal brand
and people love you for you.
It's so true.
So that's pretty magical.
Yeah. Okay, well, we do have to get into the Fast Five Stories
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Our first story is a little reality TV news from last night because Love Island USA premiered season seven.
And the episode was set to drop on Peacock and it went up 40 minutes late, which is like so unacceptable.
I was planning to watch last night, but I was editing the redheads and then I saw it was delayed.
So I was like, OK, I can get away with pushing it off one night.
So I will catch up tonight.
But why were they late?
I don't know. It's not like it's live.
That happens a lot with like Netflix live content, like the Love is Blind
reunion, because I don't know why they want.
I watched Love is Blind.
You do? That's a good. That's a good American show.
That's a good show.
And that's a really good way to get to know like different cities
and the type of people who live in different cities.
I agree.
I enjoyed it.
I feel like there was enough intellectual tickle there for me to keep watching.
That's actually shocking.
If you liked that and found it intellectually tickling, you will.
I have a tickle.
Let's keep it proportionate.
Because every season they like drag out these conversations
and the people aren't like the most interesting,
but that's what makes a good candidate for the show.
If you watch the first, like just the pods
and then the end, to me, that's me watching reality.
Like the in between is where they drag it
and try to make a storyline,
but there's no story usually.
Oh, to me, the pods are really painful to watch.
Like I have a cat.
You do?
Me too.
But don't do, but I sit there and analyze
like human behavior.
Yeah.
Like her saying, I have a cat, to see her body language
and like, what was her messaging behind the statement
and then seeing the guy responds.
That this is the tickle that I was looking for.
Oh, okay, good.
Yeah.
That's good.
I like the honeymoon phase,
the trip to Mexico or whatever where they see each other
and it's like, is it good?
Is it bad?
That's so painful.
And then when they're living in apartments,
they drag that out a little bit,
but in the beginning, it's kind of interesting.
But what do they do on Love Island?
So Love Island is really crazy.
So they're all in a house.
They have like five single girls, five single guys,
but it's an island so you can get like sent home
from the island if you're not making a good connection.
And they just, they bring in like new people every day.
So you really, you wanna find a connection
or you want the audience to like you, to keep you on.
It's as much filmed in real time as a show could be.
Like typically this episode that would have been premiered tonight,
like they probably shot it three days ago on set.
Like they are there now.
And so the audience gets to vote alongside the show.
And probably by the end of the show, we'll cycle through like 40 or 50 people.
But like some couples can really, you know, be.
But are there like Love Island graduates that stay together?
Like, is that a thing or not?
How do you ask? Do you know Molly Mae?
Why would I know Molly?
I don't know, because she I feel like of the people you would know,
you would know. Maybe she.
So she is a UK influencer.
OK, she came from Love Island.
She met her now boyfriend, there was drama recently,
but like they have a baby together.
Tommy Fury, he's the boxer.
He fought Jake Paul.
You know Jake Paul?
Yes.
Yes, okay.
So like the lights turned on, yes.
Molly and Tommy came from Love Island.
They've been together ever since,
except for last summer they broke up temporarily, but they have a baby together. came from Love Island. They've been together ever since, except for last summer.
They broke up temporarily, but they have a baby together.
She has a fashion line called Maybe.
She has a docu-series on Amazon Prime.
She's like incredibly doing the most.
Don't expect that from anyone else from Love Island.
Everyone else is like, you know, reality TV,
like I have a podcast, but she is just like catapulted.
And so I thought you might know her, but she did come from Love Island UK,
which historically is better and more popular
than Love Island US.
US has had a hard time getting off the ground,
but last season was really popular.
And it's like the show of the summer,
cause it's on four nights a week.
It's like constantly happening.
That's really fascinating.
You can't like passively watch it.
It's a lot of homework for you to start it.
You would have to watch it like every night.
Can I watch recap on TikTok?
Do you feel like I'll get the hang of it?
I think yes.
Okay.
I think you could watch recaps on TikTok.
I feel like you should have sent me this like as homework
before I came here.
But I didn't watch it either.
So how could I do that?
Because they were 40 minutes late.
Because they were 40 minutes late.
But if I'm being honest,
I don't know that I would have gotten around to it.
Redheads was really difficult to edit.
I do another podcast, a book club podcast.
Do you like to read?
I love to read.
What kind of books do you like?
I like very dense books.
It's either like self-improvement or biographies I love.
I do fiction too.
I actually picked up my first fantasy book
because of like peer pressure. Which one? Fourth wing?
Akatar. Those are the two big ones. Yes. Okay, so the first... I didn't love Akatar.
I didn't love it either, but I gotta tell you, I talked a lot of shit about it on my social media.
I finished the first book, committed to it, and I was like, meh.
And then I started the second book and it does get better.
That's what people say.
It's like, okay, well you have to wait for the second book.
I'm like, I'm not gonna read a whole ass bad book
so that it gets better for the second book.
Like if you don't get, so that's really kind of you.
You gotta be committed.
Yeah, I read 50% of the first book,
but then I think I went into labor.
So then I was just like,
I'm not going back to this book.
Like I'm a different career.
You went into your own fantasy world.
Yeah, so, but I wasn't even enjoying it.
Cause if it was a book that I loved,
I would have finished it.
I could finish it in a day.
Did you read any fantasy books?
I read fourth wing.
And you liked it?
I loved the first fourth wing
and I did not like the second one.
And so I won't be reading the third one.
Like they've lost me,
but that's okay because I don't feel
like it's necessarily for me.
Like it's for Gen Z and I was enjoying my time there.
But if I need to leave, like you guys still have fun.
Yeah.
Well, they're having the most amount of fun.
That's why I felt the FOMO and I'm like,
I'll pick up this book because I want to have fun too.
And I did not have fun.
I didn't have fun either.
But the second book I'm going through it, it's Spicier.
Okay.
I don't even think I got to any spice in first Akatar,
because it was like, that was it.
No, there was no spice.
I was like, is this it?
Because this is a fairy popping up in every scene.
And I'm just like, enough with the freaking fairies.
Like, let's get somewhere.
But the second book, it gets there.
So we'll see.
But fantasy is one that I felt like I need to explore.
I'm still not there yet. Yeah, I'm not big on fantasy. What do you like to read? Fantasy is one that I felt like I need to explore.
I'm still not there yet. Yeah, I'm not big on fantasy.
What do you like to read?
I like to read historical fiction.
Oh, that's so good.
So good, but I got into a place where
some of it's a little silly and I'm like,
I want the true story, I want just history,
but that's too dense.
I'm not gonna go and read like Churchill's biography.
But it's like, I read a biography of Churchill's mother
and I read the historic, like I read,
I forget the author who wrote it,
but it was like her official biography.
The biography of Churchill's mother.
Yeah.
Was that so good?
It took me a really long time to read it,
but I really wanted to get her story
because it was a really interesting story.
And then I also read the historical fiction book about her.
So it was like a girly swirly version of her story.
And like, so that would have been an easier way to get it.
But I did want to like hear from the primary source,
like about her.
There was one that I read.
It was about the fictional wife of Jesus.
What was the name of that book?
That was a great book.
Let's find out.
It was good, you would recommend.
I would 100% recommend.
I'm in such a reading slump.
I know, that's why I picked up the fantasy book.
Understood.
But now I'm in a deeper slump.
Right, right, right.
Pushed it.
And I'm sure you've read like all the classic
popular books like,
Colleen Hoover.
Oh my God.
You see, I can't get with that either.
Although it's not like,
it's not my favorite type of literature,
but I do have to say it's easier to like get through.
Yeah.
Was the book called the Book of Longings?
Yes.
And it was good?
So good.
Okay, thanks.
Got a new book rec.
Love it.
That one is amazing.
But yeah, I love books like this,
but there's not a lot of them out there
that can really marry both facts and history
and really good storytelling.
Without it being silly or they start to write in a way
that's like, people didn't talk like that back.
You're really editorializing it
and it makes it hard to stay in that time and place.
What's the worst book you've read recently?
Well, recently, the one that we just read for the podcast,
it was a good book.
I wouldn't say it was a bad book.
I just didn't enjoy it.
It was too dense.
It was like a murder mystery.
It was like very Agatha Christie,
but it was so complicated.
So I didn't love that.
It was called the seven and a half deaths
of Evelyn Hardcastle.
That's the Redheads book this month.
But you should listen to the podcast episode
because it was so funny.
Like I seriously almost peed my pants.
That's another thing, the murder mystery thing.
Yeah.
A whole industry, a whole world that I found out about
probably six months ago.
Do you like them?
I never listened to it.
I'm scared.
I don't know where to begin.
Like it's such a completely different space for me.
And I also can't really imagine listening in the car
about like a murder.
You listen in the car to books?
Yeah. Yeah.
No, that's nice.
Yeah, it's hard to like, you have to like be really dialed in.
Yeah, I've been trying to like have a tighter bubble
around me because there's so many things going on
in the world.
I'm just like, I need to.
Yeah. No, that's also why I like reading history too,
which is where it gives context.
Okay, so Love Island.
So Love Island for me-
Maybe they'll come out with a great, beautiful book.
Well, Molly May did write a book and I did read it.
Was it amazing?
No, cause she's really young and like,
it was before like really,
like it just talked about like her rise to fame,
but it was like, there wasn't that much to say,
but I think people just wanted to hear from her, like me.
So it wasn't amazing, but it was cute.
And it was like exactly what you would think.
Okay, you see where I take conversations
when you sit down with me to talk about pop culture?
You see where I take conversations,
it's literally an hour and we're not even
through the first story.
No, because I don't know. Okay, next story. I love a tangent. This show should be, we've said like, it's literally an hour and we're not even through the first story. No, because I don't know.
Okay, next story.
I love a tangent.
This show should be, we've said,
it should be called The Tangent.
We don't actually talk about the stories.
They're just like springboards for us to talk about
what we wanna talk about.
Okay, got it.
So don't feel tied down by the stories.
However, our next story I did choose
because I wanted to get your take.
Because in addition to everything I've already said,
you're also like a guru when it comes to advice
and relationships
and finances, like you just give a lot of good advice.
And so this story I thought would be interesting
to get your take on because billionaire YouTuber,
Mr. Beast, you know him.
Yes.
Confesses he's borrowing money from his mom
to pay for his wedding.
So he admitted that he's borrowing money from his mom
to pay for his upcoming wedding to his fiance, Thea,
despite being worth an estimated $1 billion.
The YouTuber responded via X after a fan post described him as the only billionaire under
30 to not have inherited his wealth.
He said, I personally have very little money because I reinvest everything.
I think this year we'll spend around a quarter of a billion on content.
Ironically, I'm actually borrowing money from my mom to pay for my upcoming wedding, LOL.
But sure, on paper, the businesses I own are worth a lot.
So that's the first thing that came to mind.
He's leveraged.
And I think that's such a beautiful lesson
for young people to also learn how to build a business.
He's still in building mode, even though it's
a huge empire. Yeah.
And I love it.
I think it's so, it's like a humble thing to say,
and be open about.
So you think that's like good finance move
to like reinvest your money
to the point where you can't pay for a wedding.
I think that, well, I also think it's like a fun little,
Big. Exactly. To keep him kind of in the news
and the circulation, but yes, I think that it's so smart
of him to continue building and reinvesting
into his business.
I don't know how much his mother, I hope she'll be okay.
How much is this wedding gonna cost?
I don't know.
I feel like he wouldn't have like a really extravagant
wedding, but then I could also see it being really extravagant
and then it like yielding more content
and like more business for him.
Like it almost would be like a business moment
in which case he could expense it.
I don't know, but I just ate at Mr. Beast's Burgers.
There's a-
I don't know how many-
Restaurant?
I don't know how many restaurants he has,
but we were at the American Dream Mall
in New Jersey last week and they had a Mr. Beast burgers
and it was like the only place you could get like grab
and go so we had some grilled cheeses
and it was like super cute.
I'm a fan of Mr. Beast.
I'm a fan because I think he's doing a lot
of really smart moves.
I agree, I think he's interesting person to watch
even though I don't watch like, do you watch Beast games?
I don't watch any of it. My kids were watching it for a little bit. Oh yeah, he's big person to watch, even though I don't watch like, do you watch Beast Games? I don't watch any of it.
My kids were watching it for a little bit.
Oh yeah, he's big with that demo.
Yes, exactly.
And I think it's great and fun,
very interesting type of content.
I see the amount of work he puts in there,
but I wonder if one day he's just going to like,
turn it off and just disappear.
Yeah, I wonder if he could.
Where does it go?
Yeah.
Know what I mean?
Do your kids ever ask you to like use your clout
to get them something?
Or like get them to meet someone they're like,
No, because they don't think I'm like, cool.
They're not like you should have Mr. Beast on the pod.
No, absolutely not.
Or like get on Mr. Beast PR list.
We were.
I'm a Mr. Beast PR list.
I give it to my neighbors because they're that age
and they think I'm the coolest.
No, I still, I don't know what I need to do
in order to get my kids to understand how cool I am.
Who else are the fans like the Paul brothers?
I feel like you could get a Paul on your podcast.
Well, I'm friends with Nina who is so lovely.
So lovely.
I mean, I don't know her.
I watch the show.
Do you watch their show?
No.
So good.
You have to watch their show.
It looks like a good show.
I think that they are such masters at what they do,
that everything that they put out there,
they already know, they engineer it.
They literally changed reality television with that show.
Like Claudia and I are obsessed,
and now we're obsessed with them,
even though we typically wouldn't be their target demo.
We love them.
It was such a smart move because they just had the baby
and they're kind of like outgrowing,
you know, the cohort that they build until now.
But to your point, they're bringing new people in like you.
Like I need to watch this show.
I would watch that.
And she's your friend.
So that's so fun because then you could text her
and be like, wait, did Greg really say that?
Like that's always a fun angle,
even though we have a lot of reality TV people,
or we used to have more guests come on the show,
and I do separate personal friendships
from what I'm watching on TV, because I'm like.
Yeah, to me there's personas, so I don't mix.
Yeah, but she seems great.
She really is great.
So I am all for the Paul reality,
but my kids don't watch it.
Got it. Okay, cool.
I'm trying to insert like geography, quizzes,
type of thing while I can, you know what I mean?
I'm like, look at this, this is so cool.
That is cool.
You know what I subscribe to?
I saw on Shark Tank, I don't know if they would like this,
but it was this company called History by Mail.
And every month they like send you like a replica
of a piece of history,
like a document or something really interesting,
an interesting piece of like American history,
or actually it wasn't just American, it's global.
So, you know, it's for everyone.
Wait, that's a really cool idea.
It's a really cool idea.
So you subscribe to that.
I subscribe to that and it comes once a month.
My kids are obviously, I did it for me because I love history.
But when the documents come, they're like, what's this?
And then like there's like stories and stuff. And so it's really cool. You see, this is what's cool for me because I love history. But when the documents come, they're like, what's this? And then like, there's like stories and stuff.
And so it's really cool.
You see, this is what's cool for me now.
Do you watch Shark Tank?
That's so American.
Yes, my kids love Shark Tank actually.
They watch it with my husband.
They love it.
That is classic American.
Like to break it down.
That show, I'm so happy that it runs.
Like that is one of the best shows that America produced.
I agree.
And it's such a good influence on society
to show like anyone can do this.
So many of the people who go on the show now,
like watched the show growing up
and were inspired by it, 10 out of 10.
It also shows you how you don't need to come up
with some revolutionary idea.
Like I can't even tell you.
I saw one episode of this doctor
that came up with a hiccup straw.
I talked about it for a week. Did it help? Hiccups? Apparently he had a episode of this doctor that came up with a hiccup straw. I talked about it for a week.
Did it help, hiccups?
Apparently he had a testimony of this girl
that came up and said, hey, I hiccup all the time
and when I use this straw, I stop hiccuping.
And it's like $7 on Amazon.
I'm getting it.
He's like a legit doctor.
The only thing is that was very,
the question was, do you always walk around
with a straw in your purse?
No, it would be like at home.
If I have the hiccups while I'm out of the house,
like I'll just deal with it until I get home
and then I'll get my straw.
Yeah, so I, you see, I didn't think
that a hiccup straw would be a hit.
Like I wouldn't even think to invent something like that.
I wouldn't, I don't know if I would invest in it
because it seems like very.
It's very niche.
Niche, but I would buy it.
Right, and this is why we have
the American Dream. Yeah. Okay, our next story, speaking of the American Dream, Kim Kardashian,
she has launched a new Skims product that is set to be as viral as the nipple bra. They
are launching ultimate hips by Skims. They're designed with soft foam pads embedded at the
hip to form an hourglass figure that accentuates a person's curves. So they're pretty much They are launching ultimate hips by skims. They're designed with soft foam pads embedded at the hip
to form an hourglass figure
that accentuates a person's curves.
So they're pretty much like shorts
that will give you more hips.
Right, to get rid of the hip dips.
But yeah, hip dips, but also like bring them out more.
So like you will look like you have a shape
that you don't have.
Right, optical illusion.
An optical illusion.
I would try, I wouldn't want to, like that's not my look, but like I would want to see how it looks on me.
Like what would I look like?
I feel like it won't compliment 90% of people.
Like in my head, I don't see that happening.
But did you see the, you mentioned the nipple top,
but there's one with the piercing.
Is that the one you're referring to?
There's two, there's one that's a bra
that has a nipple on it.
So like you have nippleitis when you wear it.
And then there's one with piercings.
Also one with piercings.
The fact that you see, you know,
her team saw a gap in the market for it
is what blows my mind.
Yeah, I think the nipple bra itself
has been pretty successful.
It's been restocked a couple of times
and actually like it's found a loyal community
of people who have had or have breast cancer
and they've lost their nipples.
So like it's been great for that community.
And I think it's like-
You see, there's an audience for everything.
There is.
The pierced nipple.
I just feel like if you want that look,
why wouldn't you pierce your nipple?
I guess it's like a commitment that you don't necessarily.
A fun thing, like every once in a while on a night out.
I just think that, think about it.
You go out with that pierced nipple thing
and you hook up with somebody.
Like how does that conversation go? Right, right. Where he's like where- with that pierced nipple thing and you hook up with somebody,
like how does that conversation go?
Right, right.
Where he's like where-
What if he was like really only into you?
Right, and now he's not interested.
I just think that's very deceiving.
False advertising, I mean same for like false fit, hips.
Like I wouldn't, I think there's going to be a wave
of lawsuits coming from the people that got deceived by these products.
From the people themselves who bought them?
Or got deceived by the product.
Yeah, but I just feel like we're so in it now.
Like I think there's fake butt shorts,
like now we have fake hips, even a padded bra.
You could have made that case like 20 years ago
if someone's wearing padded bra.
That's so true.
I love the padded butt shorts.
You do?
Yeah, that I like because I feel like it's aesthetically,
not the big ones, they're like very,
just to smooth things out.
I'm into that.
So you know what?
I'm kind of, I understand how people buying
into these things.
Yeah, and I mean, I don't need wider hips personally,
but I could see like a person who would benefit from this
and I guess, you know, she's there to serve.
But it's definitely gonna be a phase.
Like we're just, I think that we, as a society,
just looking for the next viral thing,
and then there's some videos, people use it a little bit,
and then we move on.
I do think half of this is marketing,
and then the other half is like actually catering to
a like mass market audience.
Which is brilliant.
Yeah.
No, she's doing a great job.
Like I wouldn't, I wouldn't doubt her.
Our next story, speaking of dating and what you're looking for, Tinder is testing out
a new height filter to help people connect more intentionally.
So this is going viral because Tinder has been accused of superficiality after testing out
a new feature that allows users to screen potential matches based on height. This is part of a
broader effort to help people connect more intentionally on Tinder, a rep for
the dating platform. Said the new vetting function is located in the discovery
section of the digital romance service and lets users specify the maximum and
minimum heights of their matches. The function will only be available to users
who subscribe to Tinder Platinum,
a premier subscription tier that starts at $39.99 a month.
Along with the new height option,
the tier also includes prioritized likes,
a specific interest filter,
a message before you match function, and more.
Gosh.
Is this slippery slope?
It really is.
Because on one hand, I also understand
that there's a lot of catfishing out there.
And you know, for some people, it really matters.
The height matters.
Yeah.
If it's right or wrong, it doesn't matter.
That's their preference.
But on the other hand, I can't even
begin to think how many lost connections,
potential amazing connections, that
get lost within all these not really important details.
Yeah, and I just feel like, where does it end?
If this is like, I feel like doing,
it's been usually like age, location,
like there have been filters that like are the set filters
that like we're okay with, even though,
technically age, it's like, you might actually connect
with someone a little bit older
and you might miss out on that.
But I do think this is really limiting.
I think people will,
just like you can like geo engineer,
like you're a perfect person.
What, Sumi could do hair color.
I saw people being like, okay, well let's do weight.
That's insane.
Could you imagine?
I also, as a mother of boys,
I do often worry about how it affects guys
in society because that's not something they can change.
For a girl, it doesn't matter your height really,
but for a man, it's such a big pain point.
And I love that we had that like short king kind of,
you know, thing trending, let's keep that going.
But that to me is so much more that it's just harmful.
It is, I don't think it's productive either. I don't that it's just harmful. It is.
I don't think it's productive either.
I don't think it's gonna like yield better relationships.
I think it's just gonna encourage people
to be superficial when I,
I'm personally like very much like it's about the person.
I know everyone says that,
but like I really believe that.
Like I'm not superficial when it comes to looks.
I mean, you don't get into a relationship,
especially a marriage and hope to stay married
for 30 years, the height is really not gonna be a factor.
He's five nine and he's not five 11.
Like the difference of two inches,
you're gonna build a life over two inches.
God, I'm so happy I'm married.
I can't even imagine dating in today's time and age.
Yeah.
I wouldn't do well at all.
So you never want the apps or anything like that?
No, there was no apps.
How did you meet your husband?
At a Shabbat dinner.
Oh, that's so nice.
It was so wholesome.
Was it meant for singles or it was just coincidence?
No, it was just coincidence, just friends of friends.
It wasn't like right away click.
It was something that, you know, gradually happened,
but it was very natural and there's no, you know, there was no preferences to take on or off.
Cause would you have thought that you would wanna be
with someone older?
No.
Would you even have had his age on?
Absolutely not.
How old was he when you guys met?
37.
Yeah, so you wouldn't have even met him.
That would have been my age range at all.
So that's what I'm saying.
There's so many moments that you miss in life
because of all these details.
How did you meet your husband?
We met both through work
and also we had matched on a dating app.
And so when I started at my new job and I met him,
he told me that we had matched,
but we never went out or anything.
I never even saw that we had matched,
but it actually just helped move us forward quickly
because it's like, oh, we're interested in each other.
It was a green light for sure.
And so like everything happened pretty quickly after that.
If you could build a dating app today,
what would you, how would it look like?
I actually really like when I was on Hinge,
how it was based was like, it was through your Facebook
and you would only get matched with people
for the most part, who you had at least one mutual friend
with on Facebook.
And I feel like that and then everything else you could do
like radius and age and whatnot.
But I feel like that's a really good way to meet people
because even the people that I know
who've met through dating apps,
they do know at least one person in common
or they've met before through like network.
And I think that's a really good foundation for meeting someone. they do know at least one person in common or they've met before through like network.
And I think that's a really good foundation
for meeting someone.
I agree, I love that.
You're part of a circle that already shows
that you guys have some kind of connection,
some kind of similarities,
you're around the same people.
Yeah, I don't know if Hinge is still like that
or what they do now, but when I was on the apps
and I was on a lot of apps,
I went on a lot of app dates and I was just like really open.
It was definitely like the, my preferred app.
I just felt like it had the most potential
for like a lasting relationship, not just like a hookup
or someone just like, yeah, you could have a good date
but like I have another date tomorrow.
Like who are you?
I love that.
Our fifth and final story, a little fashion news.
Britney Spears and Balenciaga are collabing.
Their debut collection includes hoodies and baseball caps
selling for over $1,000.
So it's like limited edition Britney Spears merch
made by Balenciaga.
It's like concert tees sort of thing, hats.
I have that t-shirt by the way.
From Balenciaga?
No, from just her merch, I would say from 20 years ago.
Oh, so yeah, now they're remaking it
for the people who missed it.
You know what, I think everyone should collaborate with her.
I want her to make money.
Like, please, just whatever, whoever's listening to this,
you have a product or an idea,
I'm sure she'll jump all over it, like go for it.
I feel like we need, Brittany just needs justice.
She does.
And she needs endless money so that she doesn't have to worry.
Or dance online.
Or dance online.
But I feel like she doesn't do that for money.
I think that hurts probably her revenue opportunities.
I think she does that for the love of dance.
And I don't know.
I don't know why she does it,
but I just want her to be so rich that she can just-
Turn it all off.
Buy an island, turn it all off,
and just live her best life.
She does it, we owe it to her.
Yeah, I found this collaboration to be interesting,
and I don't hate it, except I do hate Balenciaga.
Do you still shop Balenciaga?
No. Okay, cool.
We sold all, like,
Gary used to have a Balenciaga face with all the hoodies.
Like, we sold everything.
Yeah, that's so funny.
That's not a brand I want to associate with.
No, me neither.
So even if we wanted to support Britney on this,
like we're not going to support Balenciaga.
But however, I do think it's a good move for Britney, like any.
Yes.
And this and Balenciaga is like a high fashion.
And it's a good move for Balenciaga because, you know,
they need all the help they can get.
Even though so many celebrities like still work with them
and then are surprised why we don't like them.
But that's, there's always sometimes a disconnect,
like between fashion world and real world.
And a lot of these companies are suffering
without us knowing.
They just have this like big brand,
it looks flashy and successful.
I think that's where Balenciaga is at.
How are they still in business?
Like, oh my God. They have a machine behind them. I think, yeah, Balenciaga is at. How are they still in business? Like, oh my God.
They have a machine behind them.
I think, yeah, the other brands that,
whoever owns Balenciaga, like the other brands that they own
just pay for Balenciaga because they don't want to admit
like what a big mistake they made.
But they're gonna bring a creative director
that will change it.
Like you just need time with these things.
Time does its thing.
I actually have to say, I was pretty shocked
how fast the story, like when they did that hideous campaign,
how fast people forgot.
I feel like the media moved on
and like everyone acts like Balenciaga is normal
and like celebrities moved on, but the people,
we have not moved on.
That's what I'm saying.
The media did not fool the people.
No.
But it was crazy to see how fast the cycle went on the media.
It's true.
So it's really true.
But like when you go to like Saks, like the sale racks are all Balenciaga.
Like the store within the stores, like it's the only empty one.
Like the people were still mad.
I think that today, if you choose to wear Balenciaga, it like showcases your values as a person.
Yeah.
And it's a bigger statement than people realize.
I think so too.
However, I never owned that much Balenciaga to begin with.
And so I didn't like sell it or sell the things that I had.
I never had anything that said Balenciaga.
Like I have the city bags.
I don't wear them anymore.
But those are, they belong to a different era.
Yeah, like he didn't make them,
Demna didn't make those. Exactly.
I agree.
And I'm just waiting for them to like come back around
cause I would wear mine again.
But I feel like if you owned Balenciaga already,
like you could still wear, like that's fine.
But like we don't, when we see you in it,
like we don't know when you bought it.
We judge.
Yeah.
I judge, straight up.
So.
So those are the Fast Five stories.
You absolutely needed to know them.
You absolutely needed to get to know Valeria.
Thank you so much for joining us this morning
and giving us your time.
Where can everyone follow you?
Thank you for enlightening me.
And I'm so excited to get my news from the toast every week
so I can be with it.
People can find me at Valeria Lipovetsky
on every platform.
I'm everywhere.
She's such an amazing content creator.
Like give her a follow even if she doesn't need it.
She has millions of followers
and like she doesn't need us at all.
And so we're glad that you grace us with your presence.
Thank you so much.
And then my podcast, Not Alone.
When does it drop?
Every week.
What days?
Tuesdays.
Tuesdays.
And you just had Stassi on your podcast.
We're big Stassi fans here.
Listen, Stassi is the one that made me realize
that I have to learn more about reality TV because she is, I fell in love with her.
I'm obsessed with her. She is so fun. So upbeat.
But just know like not everyone is a Stassi. And so like you're starting at the top.
But I only want the Stassis.
Yeah. Every most good shows have a Stassi. But like if you think you're going to go into reality TV and you're going to meet a million Stassi's, there's only one Stassi.
So I'm going to talk with my chat GPT
to filter my reality show consumption
and only find me the Stassi's.
Okay, you could also start Vanderpump Rules.
That's actually a great American show.
The show that Stassi got her start on.
Like the early seasons is like peak reality television.
So if you want to know like what it's all about.
And they're running a restaurant. They are working in a restaurant, yes.
And in the early days, they really were working there.
Like Lisa Vanderpump owns the restaurant
and they wanted to give her a show
about what goes on in her restaurant.
And she just happened to have like really interesting
people working for her.
Now, the show's not even on right now,
but like now it's like people fake work there
just to like film pickup scenes or whatever.
But back in the day, like they were really working at the restaurant.
That was their full-time job.
Like they weren't making a lot of money.
They were just scraping by and they were just like,
so excited to be on this reality show.
They left it all on the show.
You have to watch.
I have to watch it.
Okay, cool.
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