The Toast - The Winner Takes It All: Thursday, April 4th, 2024
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Good morning, Millennials!
Welcome back to the Toast and happy Thursday!
That's right. I don't know if you can hear it in my voice.
It's sort of like the skinny nature.
I am obsessed. It's Thursday.
Celebrate good times, come on.
Let's celebrate.
It's Thursday.
Okay, wait, like, what did we learn last week?
We learned that, like like kind of the joy
of Thursday greater than the joy of Friday like let's just be here you know be present be in the
moment it's all ahead of us what do you have planned this weekend oh you have Ben's birthday
celebration even though his birthday was yesterday it's giving toddler it's giving
Margo Austria like birthday week when she was 19 and she was like a nightmare.
It's giving 21 year old nightmare.
Ben is like actually really nuts about his birthday.
Like.
I know.
With the Toastiversary party happening right around Ben's birthday.
Like he was on my dick for weeks being like, when's the Toastiversary party?
I need to plan my birthday.
I'm like, okay, calm down.
Not even that.
It was more so like, don't be planning toastiversary on my birthday weekend.
It's like, your birthday's on a Wednesday.
I'm sorry to this man.
As a man, that's all you get.
You get the Wednesday and that's it.
But he took Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
and he'll take Saturday for the hangover.
He didn't take Thursday.
He's actually gone all day today
with your husband on a work trip. Yeah, yeah, they yeah they are sayonara I needed a break from like all birthdays like for
me and I don't know if this is gonna like maybe I'm exposing myself like being a little too honest
but like that's what I do here on this podcast and I would love to know if anyone can relate like
other people's birthdays are like people that I'm very close to like friends and family like
family honestly just family are very because you're only close literally but I would only say this about like people just
kidding we have a couple great friends shout out to our great friends agreed we have like
seven and I love them all they're like family they are I would trust them with my life of course
well tinks is family um what was I saying oh yeah so this is gonna be like a really honest thing of
me to say but when it's other people's birthdays like you honestly and like we're together or Ben and like
I spend the day say it with your chest and I spend the day with someone on their birthday like I find
it really difficult to get through like really really it's some of my like least enjoyable
moments okay so for say it's my birthday and we like have a great brunch. Say we go to like Bergdorf's and we do shopping and it's like a great birthday.
Like you're having trouble.
Yeah.
And I find like because you have to like act different towards people on their birthday.
Like you have to be like so like you know like.
And it's.
You have a hard time being towards me.
Honestly like the more I talk about it I'm really not talking about you.
Maybe I'm like exclusively talking about Ben.
I feel like you are because also you have to be like about things that like you don't
want to be doing.
At least when it's me or one of the sisters, like we all have the same interest.
So it's like a fun swirly day.
It doesn't sound like yesterday was swirly.
Actually, yesterday was really nice.
Me and Ben had a fabulous lunch at Cipriani.
It was really good.
And then I took him shopping because, you know, I was like, you know, I could buy you
a birthday present or you could just pick it out.
Like, let's save ourselves time and energy of making returns.
He got a fabulous product coat, like being a diva in the store.
Then he got a massage.
I sent him for a 90 minute massage so I could relax.
And then he came home.
Oh, I did make him do like one husband like thing because Ben has been complaining about
the way like our cabinet is organized with our spices.
And I'm like, all right, I have to do the influencer thing.
I have to get the jars with the stickers.
And so we did it.
Do you use my affiliate link for my?
I didn't get what you got.
I got a separate apparatus because your spices are in a pullout door pantry thing.
Mine are in a cabinet.
I got a rack.
are in a pull-out door pantry thing.
Mine are in a cabinet.
Oh, you got a rack. I got a rack.
And I made Ben spend like 45 minutes
like unboxing, filling up the...
He wanted to kill me.
Filling up the spices with the funnel,
sticking the stickers on the top
if they didn't have the right label,
writing it in with the right marker.
We did it.
And you know, it being two people,
it really took 20 minutes,
but I know he wanted to kill me.
That was like the one husband-like thing
I made him do on his birthday even though it's ultimately
for him because who uses the spice exactly that's what I said but it's nice looking that's for you
because he would use spices you know left out on exactly start cutting them up credit card and then
we went to uh dinner with his family at this new kind of hot spot kosher restaurant it really was
a hot spot I thought I was going to be the only celebrity there.
I'm telling you, I mean, like by attracting celebrity
phase, I told you, like, I've just been like seeing
celebrities a lot, you know?
Yeah, so who was there aside from you?
I certainly wasn't expecting to see one at Malka,
the new kosher restaurant on the Upper West Side.
But, you know,
she's an ally through and through, Meghan McCain.
She was eating at the kosher facility.
I wrote in the chat. Oh my goodness.
You did, but I was so, I had so much going on yesterday.
I barely got to enjoy the chat.
Oh.
And that's devastating.
And I saw what you wrote, but in like a mirage.
I never got to come back.
And she also gave me like a good piece of gossip and I put it in there too.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I saw and I was like, oh, I need to like save this conversation.
Like I'll check back in with it later.
And I completely forgot.
It feels like a dream, but that's exciting it was exciting especially because like I have
like we have like texted and dm'd for years like about initially about Bravo and then when we got
canceled she was like one of the few people who publicly were like everybody lay the fuck off
these girls please and I like never forgot and I always just like I have a really warm disposition
towards her and then recently she's been such an outspoken advocate for Israel and the Jewish people.
So she's just like, in my book, she's golden.
I love her.
She's family.
She's like family.
Like tinks.
Except I've weirdly never met her.
And so I like, I felt weird being like Megan.
And like, I was like, thank God she recognized me because we really haven't.
And she did recognize.
Don't start, bitch.
Claudia, I know that I wasn't
gonna say anything like that I could feel your energy I could feel your energy oh my god then
your radar is so off because like I know how like digitally close you are with you know I thought
you were gonna make a joke I was I was pushing off your joke what was my joke gonna be did she recognize you no good good good because she did
no like your relationship with Megan McCain is like literal sisterhood compared to your
relationship with me you know what I don't want to get into this because you're just gonna you're
gonna one of us is gonna end up hurt and I have a feeling it's gonna be fine fine but like all I
want to say is just stop assuming the worst in me.
That's what I want to say.
Valid.
I won't, but it's a valid feeling.
Thank you.
So yeah, it was just kind of fabulous.
And then the day ended and I was like, TG,
because it was like a laundry list of things I needed to yell at Ben at,
but I couldn't do it on his birthday.
So this morning he woke up super early,
went on his flight to his work trip.
And while he was on the plane and I woke up,
I sent him like a litany of things
I was upset with him about yesterday.
And they were all so valid.
They were...
Can you tell us?
I'll tell...
No.
Give us an example of the kinds of things
that might upset you.
No, I don't want to.
I can't because I'll tell you why after.
It's too personal.
No, no, no, no, no.
It's not.
Okay, you know what?
I'll just text it to you.
And I'll try to understand why.
Like, I don't need you to like bear all about your relationship.
But sometimes there are like universal things that we could just all relate to.
Yeah.
That are like healthy issues to have with your partner.
Look.
You know, like the time he almost missed the pharmacy and getting my migraine medication.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
Yeah, you can share that.
Because that, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Oh, yeah.
And that would.
Yeah.
That would.
Yeah, okay.
That would elicit a strongly worded text from me as well. Of course. So, yeah. Okay. Oh, yeah. And that would... Yeah, okay. That would elicit a strongly worded text from me as well.
Of course.
So, yeah.
Ben cheated on me.
No kidding.
So, thank God that's over.
And I actually...
Even though Ben is being a diva about his birthday this weekend,
it's so nice to have, like, fun things planned for the weekend.
So, Friday night, Ben is doing...
He's decided to celebrate his birthday with his friends, like,
over, like, a really fun lit Shabbat dinner, which actually sounds so fun and not, like, crazy, doing, he's decided to celebrate his birthday with his friends over like a really fun
lit Shabbat dinner
which actually sounds so fun
and not like crazy
like four in the morning,
you know?
And we're also going
to Olivia Rodrigo
so it'll be a nice weekend.
Oh, that's nice.
I have some fun weekend plans
that I'll share on Monday.
Are they with Mary Orton?
No.
Good.
I'm seeing Mary Orton
in two weeks.
Good.
I hope you guys have
the best time.
I hope you guys drink
awesome shooters
and have an awesome time and just soak up each other's awesomeness. I just you guys have the best time. I hope you guys drink awesome shooters and have an awesome time
and just soak up each other's awesomeness.
I just want to say,
speaking of Mary Orton,
when Claudia's in Israel,
I'm doing co-hosts for the toast
and I shared on the Patreon
some of the co-hosts that I'm having
and I do want to keep it like fuzzy,
you know?
But not only do I have
really exciting co-hosts,
three things are exciting.
Exciting co-hosts,
one, actually,
no sisters that week. I think it's good. Sisters are-hosts. One, actually, no sisters that week.
I think it's good.
Sisters are like last resort.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, it's a good,
it's a sign of good things,
but like I miss my sisters.
And three,
I actually have two people
who will be shooting with me
in my studio.
That is so amazing.
I've never had a guest
in studio with me.
It's Toast HQ SoFlo A Dish, and it's fabulous.
Yeah.
I got to get my AC working in here.
And you got to clean up.
Okay.
I will.
No, it's just a pile of merch right there that the bins I got on Amazon were too small
to accommodate.
Of course they were.
Also, so you're doing a week of co-hosts when I'm in Israel, which is so fab because I feel
like you haven't done co-hosts in so long, and I'm excited to be a week of co-hosts when I'm in Israel which is so fab because I feel like you
haven't done co-hosts in so long and I'm excited to be a consumer of that content but then a few
weeks later I've decided I am going to LA for the 5k and then I'm like as long as I'm traveling six
hours I might as well make a meal of it so I'm gonna do five episodes in LA of course I have
tinks booked that was like the first call I made um but I kind of wanted to go out of our usual
circle of people.
Out of network. Out of network, especially because it happens to be a big week in LA that week. It's
the 5K. It's the Netflix is a joke festival. So I've been in contact with Tim Dillon. He said he
will do it, but like, we'll see if it actually comes to fruition. I've also been in contact
with Brooke Schofield. Now I feel like the toasters know who Brooke Schofield is and I for one am
obsessed and I'm sensing a pattern because the last time I was in LA I got connected on text
with Tana Mongeau and I was like Tana will you please do the toast and she was like oh my god
yes literally ghosted me. I was put on text with Brooke Schofield and I was like Brooke I love you
I don't know if you know who I am but like I love the toast I love you the toasters love you like
it's a really great podcast you'll love it like please and she was like of course so I go hey let
me know who to reach out to ghost so I'm really rooting for
Brooke Schofield to come on the toast another out of network grueling but I just want to say
Tinks is technically out of network and she's never done it before yes but I feel I feel like
Tinks's content is really similar to ours a lot of our followers are Tinks's followers especially
since we became sisterhood. Screw sisterhood.
Yeah, yeah.
No, she'll be in network soon enough, but it's an inaugural thing.
So it's kind of, it's fresh and different and it's new for the network.
And Ben is traveling with me.
So just know like if Ben does an episode with me, it's because I couldn't find anyone else.
Of the caliber that you're looking for. Of the caliber.
Yeah, yeah.
Of course.
Of people.
I want new people.
Someone who's ever been on, like I want to shake it up Chicago, shake it up Los Angeles.
You could do someone who's been on.
That's amazing.
There are some really good ones out there.
Of course.
No.
We've had.
In network.
In network.
Out of network.
We've had some fabulous, fabulous people on this show.
And I also feel like I barely broached my network.
Like I was kind of like brimming with more people to ask.
So if you're like listening like oh why didn't you ask.
My text was on its way to you. But then things got kind of like brimming with more people to ask. So if you're like listening, like, oh, why didn't you ask? Like my text was on its way to you,
but then things got kind of like confirmed really quickly.
There's also like a 4% chance I just like extend my trip in Israel.
So good to have people on the backup, you know?
Oh, for sure.
Okay, cool.
You think so?
I don't know.
I just feel like I'm going to get there and like it won't be enough time.
And I'll feel like overwhelmed with like emotion
and motivation to keep going and volunteering, you know?
Yeah.
And farming.
They need farm hands.
Do they?
For real.
Yeah.
Because the farms were attacked.
They were like burned down.
A lot of the farm workers were murdered or they're off fighting.
Right, right.
And they like totally decimated the farms.
It was like an intentional thing to like get at the Israeli economy.
I think like their production is down 30%.
Oh my God. Since October 7th they they burned fields they shot and like disconnected the feeds
for like chickens and stuff so they didn't even kill the chickens but in the aftermath of october
7th they didn't realize that those machines were broken like thousands of chickens died of
starvation no one there to pick the crops. Can we volunteer at a farm?
I'm on it.
Yeah.
I'm going to save the Israeli agricultural system.
I'm turning.
I need to like get clothes.
Like not like fabulous clothes, obviously.
Like I need like work clothes.
I was saying that I need like work boots.
Yeah, you need work boots.
And then I think just like athleisure.
Athleisure.
I know.
I need to go head over to Aloe, Lululemon, et cetera.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we just have like a very exciting month coming up at the To we're about to celebrate our six-year toast anniversary which maybe we'll do a patreon
episode like at a glance looking back on the years things of that nature maybe take questions about
like favorite moments that's a good episode that is a good episode also speaking of an anniversary today is a one year a year ago today I got my
cerclage my first you're lying I know it's really sort of like chilling it's been top of mind for
me chilling I've been thinking about a lot I feel like it's like I'm thinking about it even like I
don't know processing it more now than I even did then we couldn't really take like stock of what
was going on in the moment no because we had to
keep moving once oh that day in your bed that was one of the worst days of my life and it wasn't
even about me like oh my god that was horrible yeah yeah so that was today the flight today was
the day where like we couldn't we hadn't recorded the episode yet you were like I have a scan in the
morning I'll be right back I'm seeing this new doctor who's just gonna like look at it and tell
me I need a surclage no no not a surclage new yeah no the second doctor I was going to see so that they
could look at me like confirm I needed a surclage like Dr. Fox had been saying over the phone and
then I would get the procedure down here but they looked at me and they were even like more pessimistic
than the doctor the day before and they were just kind of like go home and wait and then Dr. Fox was
like if you come up tonight, we can do it here.
So you got the cerclage tonight.
We were on the plane today.
We were on the plane today.
A year ago today, we were on a PJ.
Pittsville, USA.
Population, cerclage.
Serious Pittsville.
But two pivots.
Two positive pivots.
Charlito.
One, Dr. Fox.
Oh, of course.
No, but I'm just like pivoting the conversation because dr fox who's
the goat you guys he's a household name here at the toast he actually has a book coming out i was
just gonna say that and um i think anyone who's been pregnant or given birth like knows emily
oster because she is the girl the go-to she wrote expecting better which was the one pregnancy book
i did read and then she wrote crib sheets which is about like baby stuff like you know baby book um and Dr. Fox co-authored her next book with her okay Dr. Fox
yeah okay Dr. Fox like being celebrity no I got invited to the lunch party I was like oh okay
lunch party in this like that fancy townhouse I okay. Okay. And the next book is about like pregnancy after a complicated pregnancy.
So.
That's literally you.
Yeah.
That's what he said when he was telling me about it.
Like it's literally me.
So check it out.
It comes out in May.
Check it out.
What's it called?
I'm going to.
No, you do redheads.
I'll find it because it's in my email.
Speaking of books, the redheads dropped today.
So big.
And I loved the book. It's called The email. Speaking of books, the redheads dropped today. So big. And I loved the book.
It's called The Unexpected,
Navigating Pregnancy During and After Complications.
I like that.
Yeah.
So if that is in your wheelhouse,
definitely pre-order it.
But speaking of books,
the redheads dropped today.
I loved the book so much.
I need you to read it.
Oh.
Because I think you would really like it.
Okay, let me.
I keep telling you.
I know, by the way.
Bye, baby.
I haven't read a book. It it's crazy I'm like so off reading
no Claudia I only read one book a month now and it's for the redheads and that's why I'm also
grateful for the redheads because I wouldn't be reading right now I literally in the last couple
of months only read my um book club book and my next book club book is Demon Copperhead so I'm
just kind of read this first it'll take you two to three I'm just like kind of preparing but by the way the last book I read I believe was
your last book club yeah First Lie Wins and then before that did you hear about Kitty Carr
and then before that one dumb romance book and then a book club no my god I've only read six
books this year no I know but it's just I guess not reading high time reading season right now
but read this it'll
get you like back it'll get the bug and you know the author wrote tell me lies which we love so
it was so good the episode was weirdly we weren't like it was polarizing yeah like
two really liked it two not as much I love when the girlies fight yeah because that way also the
listeners everyone's represented whether you liked the book or not there's something for you in the episode and like
as I said redheads revolution like the girlies got ring lights like things are happening ring
lights we got ring lights because we're gonna be making clips oh you know me like clips mean
everything to me I'm so excited I feel like that actually will turn a lot of people into listeners
not enough people know about the redheads like Like in this, you know, the people who listen to the toast, if they read,
I feel like they join the redheads. If they don't read, there's really no hope for them in terms of
becoming a redhead. But I feel like not enough people know that there is this like monthly book
club podcast out there that's like really just doing what nobody else is doing. Yeah. And this
book, this would actually be a great time to become a redhead because like the content is great. But
also this book, I really think most people will like. and it's like a fun girly book with also a
bit of intrigue and then the next book is a snitch's choice which is always like a fun easy
read we're reading when we were enemies classic maybe I'll do two redheads books in a row also
major reading update for me is I bought this uh kindle oasis off of a toaster actually she was
like I was like I was
like I'll pay you or like do you want just like a shit ton of merch and she went for the merch and
I covered the shipping so like everybody won and then literally I got it a few days ago and then
yesterday Amazon reached out be like you know we're just continuing the Oasis do you want one
we have one laying around the office so I will have two but the confirmation you'll need it for
when you lose the old one exactly but uh what do you think's next for a Kindle? Like what do you think is the next Kindle?
Like Oasis was their big new thing
and they're discontinuing it.
For reasons unknown,
it's literally the most popular one.
I tell everyone about it.
It's the best one.
So I think in size,
it will be similar to that in paper white.
But I guess when I'm looking at it,
like the black stripe on the right with the buttons,
like why is it so wide?
It doesn't need to be that wide.
Yes, you do.
You need a place to rest like your big ass hand.
I don't know.
I think they're just like redesigning it.
I think it could be more ergonomic.
But I don't know why they're discontinuing this one without launching the new one.
There needs to be overlap.
There's going to be a drought for a while.
And I'm sorry, the paperweight right it doesn't cut it for me and do you think there's a correlation between Kindle discontinuing
like their best product and Jeff Bezos being number three one billion behind Elon I think
there's definitely a correlation between um the Kindle being discontinued and Jeff Bezos sort of
like being very lax in his work ethic you know know, he's happy, he's engaged, he's
traveling. He had this big 60th birthday. I feel like he hasn't been attending meetings. He's kind
of like, you know, some men, not a midlife crisis, but you know, he's acting like a teenager again
because he's in love. Like, I think that's reflective in, you know, the lack of product
launches from Amazon. I do. Interesting. Do you think Jeff Bezos reads on a Kindle?
No, I think he reads when he's drunk, just a little drunk,
and he reads the newspaper.
Yeah.
That's what I think.
I think Lauren Sanchez reads on a Kindle.
For sure.
Like, smut.
For sure.
Like, I've never been more certain of anything in my life.
Yeah, she should become a redhead.
I love Thursday shows because, you know, yesterday
we were busy. We had Vanderpump Rules. We had Dear Toasters and we had the stories. So, you know,
it was like, you know, a chug along to make sure we hit all the things we needed to hit. And then
Fridays we have Weenie and Queenie of the Week. You know, last Friday we had Employee of the Month
and Thursdays just have become kind of a respite for me. Like very relaxing, girly girl chit chat.
They can be as long or short you know
yeah and the stories I think reflect that oh they have a relaxed sort of karmic energy to them
they have a there's not much going on sort of energy to them love yeah I actually need to
organize that sure so I have a little bit of business to attend to if you'd like to do that
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Our first story,
Chance the Rapper and his wife,
Kirsten Corley break up after five years of marriage.
Like shocking.
It was that sarcastic?
No,
no,
no.
I happen to like randomly know about Chance the Rapper like before
he got famous he like had this woman and he just loved her and he stayed loyal no matter how famous
he got and there was a point in time where he was like the biggest thing all night I've been drinking
all night I've been drinking all night I've been drinking it and like he stood by stand by your man
like really stood by her and they were I felt so strong yeah well she posted to Instagram saying
after a period of separation the two of us have arrived at the decision to part ways we came to
this decision amicably and with gratitude for the time we spent together God has blessed us with two
beautiful daughters who we will continue to raise together we kindly ask for privacy and respect as
we navigate this transition you know you hate to? You know, you hate to see it.
You hate to see like a pre-fame relationship bite the dust.
You know, of course it reminds me in a different way.
Robert Herjavec.
Yes.
Now Robert Herjavec, I felt had bad intentions.
I don't feel as though Chance the Rapper does, but it just does remind me.
I hate to see, you know, a man get successful and then leave.
No, I don't think he's leaving her.
Like, they had kids.
And he's not even at the height of his fame anymore.
It's different.
It's different, of course.
But I do love when a woman does it.
You know, Kacey Musgraves and her first marriage.
Not Rustin Kelly, the other guy.
I was thinking about him the other day, actually.
Were they married?
Engaged?
No.
You're right.
They weren't married.
But they were in, like, a seven-year relationship, like really long.
I think they were together longer than she was with her husband.
Yeah, when she got famous.
If you watch some of her Follow Your Hour music videos, he was in her band.
He was in her band, yeah.
He's in every music video.
He's kind of the short one with the buzz cut.
And I kind of loved, I'm not going to lie, I loved that era for Kacey Musgraves.
I did.
But when she left him, I was like, this is right.
You know, that feels right. That feels right yeah and then when she was with Wes and Kelly
I said that doesn't feel right you think I didn't love it yeah because it was that it was your least
favorite trope of two people who do the same thing and the woman is far more successful than the man
and it can never work and actually I was thinking recently about that generation of young women in
country who all married men in the industry who were less successful than them and how they all fared.
And for a while, I was trying to remember, did Maren Morris get divorced?
Yes, right?
I think so.
Yeah, she was the last one.
First it was Kacey Musgraves.
Then it was Kelsey Ballerini.
They both were married to country stars whose names, if you're not into country, you probably
never heard.
And then Maren Morris and Ryan Hurd.
And he's a very successful songwriter.
But when it comes to like fame and,
and people buying his own music that he released,
he wasn't nearly as popular as Marin.
So yeah, was that all three?
They're all gone.
Yeah.
That was a crazy time.
So can it work?
No,
not in country.
Does it work anywhere else?
Let's think two people who do the same thing where the woman is like much more successful,
like a big actress and a small actor.
I feel like a lot of the female actresses,
they're really smart.
They marry people in the industry,
but who aren't front facing.
Behind the scenes, yeah.
Directors, agents, producers.
No, I feel like two actors marry each other is a nightmare.
Especially like huge.
Okay, John Krasinski and Emily Blunt.
They're on the same level.
I would say maybe she-
They defy the odds. They defy the odds. I would say maybe she's a little bit more famous than him. I think they goinski and Emily Blunt. They're on the same level. I would say maybe she- They defy the odds.
They defy the odds.
I would say maybe she's a little bit more famous than him.
I think they go back and forth.
Yeah.
It depends what just came out.
They're so even.
She's more Oscar and he's more commercial.
Like he does Ryan Jack.
Jack Ryan, you know?
Yeah.
Nobody watches that show.
No, they're so evenly matched.
Everybody watches that show, but he wins no awards.
It has to be a perfect match in terms of success.
Yeah.
I mean, I added to the list of things I'm always bringing up.
Like in terms of success, perfect match,
but different industries and why it works,
Keith Urban and Nicole Kidman.
Yeah.
But seriously, both at the top of their industry.
So again, same exact level of success, more or less.
Yes.
And I think it works even better
because they're not in the same industry.
There's really no overlap.
Yeah, but there are a lot of country couples,
big and big.
Yeah, that's a thing.
Faith and Tim, Trisha and Garth.
Garth.
Tammy and...
George.
George and Tammy,
even though they were together for five minutes,
according to the show.
Who else?
I love this game.
Well, and also, I don't believe Chance's wife was in the industry at all so no oh yeah we've gotten completely off
subject yeah but we it's hard to not get into that line of discussion because it's one of my
favorite things to talk about yeah so I guess because it feels too soon I'm not gonna do it
oh you know who's like kind of a no it's too soon you know who's kind of a couple who well of course Beyonce and Jay-Z but they're kind of not in the same industry
anymore and who would you say is more famous like I think it just depends on your POV because for
me it's Beyonce yeah you know who's another couple who's like kind of equally matched they're not
like the most famous though but they're really William H. Macy and Felicity Huffman like are
they still together I think so even though he let her go to prison I feel like they're not I don't know why I feel
that because also he went to the homeless not toothless gala in Real Housewives of Beverly
Hills yeah they kept saying like William H. Macy's gonna be here and it's like wouldn't he be with
his wife that's true oh wait here I just googled Ashton and Mila he's more famous I think but it works yeah oh Ryan Reynolds
and Blake Lively yeah classic classic but there's really not like a ton on this list uh Ben Affleck
and J-Lo it's too soon to tell oh I think like an OG uh Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson yep yep at one Yep. Yep. At one point, Kim and Kanye.
Yeah, at one point.
That's crazy that like, that they were together, you know?
Yeah, that was kind of a mirage.
Yeah.
So.
Sad.
When I climb into bed, I start feeling sad.
Yeah, no, this sucks.
Like, I love a famous person with someone who's like not well only when it's a man I love a famous man with like a not famous woman
I hate when a woman does it it's like girl what are you doing
but then we also say get a businessman bow businessman bow is different I'm talking about
just like not famous. Like average Joe.
Yeah, no.
Like a titan of industry is different.
Okay.
Okay, cool.
Ever since I heard the phrase titan of industry,
I've said it now three times on the show, I've realized,
it's become one of my favorite things.
I heard it.
It's a great term.
I heard it in like kind of a sad capacity
when someone was speaking about how like, you know,
history always repeats itself and this is what happens to Jews.
They're expelled from lands.
They go to new lands.
They're excommunicated. They're forced're forced to you know start their own industries
and then they become titan of industries and then they become they become so assimilated and then
there's resentment and then that's like the peak the arc and then their escape and then holocaust
so um I don't love how I learned the phrase titan of industry nevertheless it's a good phrase
yeah yeah are you ready for our next story yes Elizabeth Hurley is reacting
to the theories that she took Prince Harry's virginity okay question mark Elizabeth Hurley
was shocked by unfounded theories that she was the older woman who took Prince Harry's virginity
okay because in his book I totally see it by the way it's giving it's giving Diana and Nate
in Gossip Girl yeah in his book he talks about how an older English woman
took his virginity in, I'm going to pronounce this wrong,
just leave me alone, Gloucestershire.
No, Jackie, it's Gloucestershire.
And Gloucestershire.
Gloucestershire.
Gloucestershire.
And people were speculating that it was Elizabeth Hurley.
So she was on Watch What Happens Live on Wednesday. And of did Harry say it was a actress no okay he just said an older
English woman so it could have been someone's gran like it could have been anyone yeah no it could
have been like a society lady and I think people actually did kind of piece together who it was but
names in the running included Elizabeth Hurley and And she said that was ludicrous. She said, quote, he said she was English.
She was older than me.
It was in Gloucestershire.
And they were like, ah, it's Elizabeth.
It's so true.
It was absurd.
It was ridiculous.
This is where Andy.
She said she's never even crossed paths with him.
I've never met him in my life.
Well, that's shocking.
That is surprising.
Two British royals.
I know for a lot of people like it's giving Nate and Diana.
What was her name?
Diana.
But for me, it's the Royals on E.
She plays a queen.
That show.
That show was so amazing.
That girl is still married to the guy right from the Royals, Alex Park.
She's married to which guy?
I don't know.
She married someone.
Jasper?
Double check.
Or maybe they dated.
But no, I think they're married.
Alexandra Park. I feel like no, you're to something this is familiar yeah right I wonder if it was Jasper just who's her husband is she married
how do you know who she is I have no. That's so funny because I never watched the show. And I just remember the actress who played like the main girl.
Oh my God.
No, wait, sorry.
She's married to James Lafferty from One Tree Hill.
Oh, cool.
That's why her name sounded familiar to me because it triggered me.
I was going to say, I can't believe you brought that up.
Yeah, unintentionally.
Moving on.
One thing I have to say say like this is why you've
gotta love Andy Cohen because like he's asking the questions nobody else is asking yeah and I'm
glad we cleared that up and honestly her response is hilarious although like if I had read the book
I would have imagined Elizabeth Hurley too in my brain yeah both like the real woman because she's
just like a a fabulous English woman but also because of every character she plays exactly and
you know she is older than Harry. She is British.
And, like, she's very sexy.
And, like, I don't know.
It's not that far off.
It's not.
Yeah.
But, unfortunately, it wasn't her.
Damn.
I wish it was.
Are you ready for our next story?
Yes.
What number?
Some more.
Three.
Some more inter-celebrity news.
Okay.
Michael Douglas discovers he's related to Scarlett Johansson
on Finding Your Roots.
I love this show.
So Michael Douglas has discovered a fellow actor
is also a distant relative, Scarlett Johansson,
on the PBS series Finding Your Roots.
The host revealed that he is a DNA cousin of Scarlett.
He said, are you kidding?
Oh, that's amazing.
All right, this is cool this is
so cool so michael douglas is jewish i was just thinking that too i think he is by the way yeah
i don't like the crazy saying he's like looks kind of like an old jewish man yeah the two actors
branches of dn of shared dna appeared on scarlet's maternal lines which stretch back to jewish
communities in eastern europe yeah because at the end of the day, we're all related.
Well, of course, yeah.
Like this show, I don't know what it used to be called.
Olivia was obsessed with it.
It's like, who do you think you are?
It was like this on TLC.
And they got a lot of celebrities to agree to do it.
And they did these extensive ancestral background checks.
And they've learned a lot of things about different families
and different people and then connected celebrities to other celebrities and it was such a great show
and clips from that show are constantly coming up on my tiktok and it really was such a brilliant
concept i didn't know they were still doing it on pbs and i love that yeah that was like ben affleck
right he found out that his ancestors were slave owners did he yeah i'm pretty sure yikes i should probably i should probably double check that yeah that's giving major yikes energy bye by big yikes energy ben affleck's great great
great grandfather owned 25 slaves according to a deleted segment of finding your roots okay
like it's not his fault like a deleted segment why do i have to delete it like
it's just unfortunate but that's our history like yeah yeah it's an it's unfortunate and maybe they just like
wasn't that a thing on southern charm too i mean that's yeah it's a lot i mean it's from boston so
it's like not that crazy but it made like southern charm it's like a lot of their families because
the big families calhoun like yeah they all yeah um I would love to get this done.
Like, do you have to be a celebrity to go on the show?
Or are there, like, companies that do it for lay people?
Because, like, when you're of Eastern European Jewish descent,
a lot of your history is, like, not your history,
like, your ancestry is fecocked because we were all murdered
at one point in time.
Yes, and, of course, the companies that do it for lay for lay people are like Ancestry.com and 23andMe.
You know, when they're not like getting all their data leaked.
Yeah.
But like people who are going to like make you a detailed chart, tell you like what this
person did, if you have any like notable relatives.
Yeah.
Like a whole 360 version.
Yeah.
No.
Ancestry.com is very like on the surface.
And I don't want to give all my information to, like,
this fakakta company. I don't know. I'm sure
there are, like, PI
types who do this, like, privately
for families. I would love to do, like, a
big-ass family tree.
Like, well, I would like to just honestly
hire someone to do it. I don't want to do it myself.
I'm sure this is some people's jobs.
They, like, comb through records, and they find...
Hopefully someone will now reach out out because I would do that.
Yeah.
I think it's so fascinating.
And imagine getting to go on TV and have someone do it for you.
That's the dream.
I'm getting publicity and a family tree.
Yeah.
Unless you're Ben Affleck.
And then it's like, oh, maybe I shouldn't have done that.
Some questionable.
Yeah, yeah.
Yikes.
Are you ready for our next story?
I don't know.
I just, I climb into bed and I start feeling sad.
I feel like we're really rushing through these stories.
Like not intentionally.
No, not intentionally.
That's what I tried to tell you at the top of the show.
You did.
You tried to tell me and I wouldn't listen.
So I guess we could slow it down with this think piece.
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Our next story, some big music news.
Big money moves for the band called KISS.
KISS has sold their catalog name and likeness
for $300 million to Pop House Entertainment.
So Pop House Entertainment is a Sweden-based music investment firm
that is responsible for ABBA's hologram show, like a tour.
So now KISS has sold all their crapola.
And I think it's fair to say there will be a KISS hologram tour.
But they've sold all of their what do you make of
that like value wise 300 male kiss when i think of like name likeness like the makeup the logo
like i think they have probably some of the strongest branding in band history like you
could see a font and you would say that's the kiss font you know and then the tongues the hair
the outfits the makeup and then of course the. I would say it's extremely valuable.
I feel like they could have gotten more.
I would say it's valuable, but that does still feel really high.
Like I'm impressed.
I'm impressed, but I feel like it could have been 500, honestly.
What?
It's really iconic.
Like it really is.
Okay, like 500 million for a font?
No, not for a font, Jackie, for the brand.
And like that for a tongue.
By the way way that's
that like is valuable can you name a kiss song
uh welcome to the jungle just taking a stab in the dark is that a name of the song was that a
guess or was that what you googled that was my guess oh and it's not on their top five on spotify
their number one song just the title i will i will but i now i need to see who sings welcome
to the jungle guns and roses same thing i'm sorry but what is kissing okay kiss sings
kiss sings i was made for loving you i don't think i know that one rock and roll all night is that i
want to rock and roll all night and party every day ah okay i was made for loving you is almost
at a billion streams i'm just gonna take a quick listen because we have to know it okay but we're
gonna get demonetized like we're right we don't do run ads no i know but when we know turn it off
turn it off turn it off when we get demonetized youtube puts ads in our shit without
us knowing it's really annoying i meant to tell you that we have to stop doing that play music
i guess we'll never know people were commenting like why there's so many ads i was like i don't
know and it's because we got demonetized so that they monetize yeah no it's kind of bullshit when
we get demonetized we lose the choice to not have
ads and then they just put that shit on us so we were choiceless without consent yeah sick then
also detroit rock city okay like looky i feel like they have like two heads heaven's on fire
lick it up jaggy that's why they do this. Yeah. Okay, 300
feels right.
Yeah, I'm happy for them. What do you think
the Toast catalog, you know,
discography branding is worth?
I mean, to me, it's priceless.
No, but like, actually, given what we know
about our business, like, and the
industry, the landscape, like, if we were to sell
everything.
Ourselves included? Or us out of it? Ourselves included. Like, we keep working. They don't like the landscape like if we were to sell everything ourselves included or us ad bit ourselves included
like we keep working they don't like then get everything and then like without us it's worth
zero okay no no they let's just say they get everything without us like what do you think
our work is worth I think our work is worth like without any future earnings like 25 million dollars
I really do I agree with that that's roughly what I was thinking like that's what the I think the industry would would value it at as well
I think that's what the NASDAQ would say so
pop house entertainment if you're interested in a toast hologram tour that's our price and I would
love a hologram tour as long as they made me look skinny and tan. Like I'm in bed? Yeah, right. But I'm earning.
Obsessed.
Great.
Where do I sign up?
ABBA.
Send the paperwork.
ABBA is a client, but yeah.
You know what I mean.
Swedish House Mafia.
I love ABBA.
Swedish House Mafia.
Send the paperwork.
I love ABBA.
I'm so glad you brought that up.
I love ABBA too. But I hate Mamma Mia.
Yeah.
What's your favorite ABBA song?
Such an important distinction.
I think Dancing Queen.
This is what I mean about Thursdays.
Like we could just have these types of conversations, you know?
Yeah, we're in no rush.
Honestly, Dancing Queen, I know it's so basic,
but like every time I hear that song, a chill runs through my body.
Okay, there are a lot of ABBA songs.
Chica-dee-da, you and I know.
That really give me the chills.
But one in particular, because I feel like you get added to the list of stories I've said have I said this before I don't know when it
takes it all I was about to say when it takes it all too but I don't know why you're what's your
story did you guys ever see the documentary keep sweet pray and obey one moment really stuck with
me when this girl was like really thinking about leaving this like fundamentalist disgusting like
marrying young women cult and somebody snuck her in, like, a Walkman and a CD.
And the CD had one song on it.
It was an ABBA CD with one song.
And she went to this, like, mountaintop.
It was giving very much sound of music.
She's on this mountaintop, Jackie, and she's listening to this Walkman.
And it's just this one song that she's listening to over and over again.
The winner takes it all.
And she decides to run away with her boyfriend and leave this cult.
And then the next day, he decides to stay and snitches on her like she made this huge decision and this man
betrayed her but they had this reenactment in the documentary she's like literally in this like it's
literally giving this out of music because she's in this frock from her cult and like this hat
and she's just sort of like standing in the wind and her dress is flowing and she's like
the winner takes it all the The loser's standing tall.
Like, it was really moving.
And I just love that song.
It's a great song.
I'm glad that that brought you to it.
What's another album?
Don't go wasting your limo.
Also, Gimme Gimme Gimme, A Man After Midnight, classic.
So relatable.
Like, I feel like it's just like a lot of women like have a cocktail and they're just
like, gimme, gimme, gimme.
Yeah.
Mamma Mia.
Like classic.
Yeah, fine.
Hate.
Take a Chance on Me.
So cute.
Take a chance on me.
Yes.
Lay All Your Love on Me.
That's what I was just singing.
Lay all your love on me.
So good.
Oh, Super Trooper.
Margot's favorite song super trooper lights are gonna blind you like
i always do i'm by the way i think i'm dancing abba to my running playlist i was just singing
that sometimes like uh one song will come on and then i go to abba and i just listen to all of them
i mean so good so good i feel like tiktok has had a huge influence on abba like having a resurgence All of them. I mean. Bulevu. Da da da da da da. Ba ba. So good. So good.
I feel like TikTok has had a huge influence on ABBA.
Like having a resurgence.
And I think honestly if they went on tour.
Especially in America.
Like people would go.
Young people would go.
Oh my god.
It's probably a blast.
And I just want to say.
I know TikTok is responsible for ABBA's resurgence.
But the cream rises.
Like I'm sure TikTok tried with others.
Kiss.
I'm sure.
I'm sure even.
Yeah.
Like I'm sure there was also others. Kiss. I'm sure, I'm sure even, yeah, like I'm sure there was also,
I think with companies like that,
they sometimes will like put forth an artist just to see how much influence
they have.
Like,
can we make this thing that nobody cares about?
Can we get people to care about it?
But ABBA,
like it's so organic.
It's true.
It's,
it's talent.
Waterloo.
What's that?
No clue.
Don't play it.
She won't let me play it.
So we'll never know but it's
number one on this is abba on spotify I mean feel free to leave the room and go listen to it like
for real I'm not fucking around wait does this have a headphone jack
no that's like oh no I guess we'll never know what Waterloo sounds like. And that's okay. Yeah.
Okay.
Chikatita, you were just saying that.
Chikatita, you and I know.
What's money, money, money?
I have no idea.
We'll never know because we can't play it.
We'll never know.
Are you ready for our fifth and final story?
Oh, it just feels so final, you know?
But I am.
Like, I actually have a busy day of things to do so I shouldn't dilly dally yes and so in more emerging news from
quiet on set Drake Bell joined the not skinny but not fat podcast and he talked about the child um
crimes against a child charges against him and started to clarify oh what it was going on so
Drake and I have to, I did my own research
when the documentary came out
and I learned a lot about it too.
Yes, and a lot of people were like commenting
things about the case, which, you know,
take, you have to fact check,
but it seems as though it's not like,
it wasn't so clear cut.
And now he's speaking out about it.
And he said, Drake Bell has vehemently denied
the allegations that he groomed a teenage girl
nearly three years after being arrested for crimes against a child. So he said Tuesday that the
claims were not true and that he only pleaded guilty because he had been financially devastated
at the time. He said on Not Skinny But Not Fat podcast, I responded on some DMs and was incredibly
irresponsible and got myself into conversations that I shouldn't have had. I ended up finding
out that I was talking to someone that I shouldn't have been talking to and it snowballed into these
allegations that were not true and it just turned into this big thing. He pleaded guilty in June
2021 to a felony attempted child endangerment and misdemeanor disseminating matter harmful to
juveniles. He was sentenced to two years of probation. He said I just had a son and I didn't
want to put my family through all of this anymore. I ended up going through the process the way that I did.
Very regretful. Yeah. Um, a lot of the, the, something that I learned during my research
on Drake Bell after Quiet on Set was that, um, there were a lot of allegations made against him
during the actual like court process. Um, it was proved that the girl actually lied about her age. Therefore, like, you can't
groom someone if you think they're 19 or whatever. And that a lot of the allegations turned out to
be not true. However, like he said, due to his circumstances, he just sort of like let it happen.
But then also, I think it was kind of easy to believe and maybe still is easy for people to
believe because that's how like abuse works. It's a cycle. Like you become a victim of abuse and then you become an abuser that's and it's on you to
break the cycle but a lot of people don't yeah so I think people believe this also he pleaded guilty
so it didn't feel like it's giving guilty right but now he's explaining why he did that and that
it's not what it seems and it's not nearly as nefarious as we would have thought so yeah uh I'm glad he's
having this opportunity to clear his name because I do feel like up until it was a big question out
and he was just kind of like discarded yes you know as just like crazy crazy and also like uh
pedophilic you know yeah creepy but it's like there's so much more to the story and it's not that yeah yeah um but also when he told his truth on quiet on set and everybody
was really championing him there was also this other conversation being had online people being
like well what and honestly good on amanda for asking the question because i think that's the
like probably the number one question a lot of people had for him and it's like well thank you
for sharing your story and everything but like what, what about this? Yeah. Yeah. Two things can be true.
Yes, for sure.
But I feel like now we're getting a full picture.
And I actually like, I understand his explanation.
Yeah.
So those are the fast five stories.
You need to know them.
You need to know them.
And if anything, I feel like it's going to inspire people to listen to ABBA today.
And I feel like we can sleep well knowing that that's our influence. I feel like today you're going to be influenced after this podcast to listen to Abba today and I feel like we can sleep well knowing that that's our influence
I feel like today you're going to be influenced after this podcast to listen to Abba and listen
to the redheads just an idea and I feel like you're going to be influenced to read the book
oh for sure once I pick up my kindle that's what I'll read once she picks up her kindle it's over
for you bitches and also like the reason I haven't read is because I'm reading Demon Copperhead and I want to
read a physical copy of it because like when I'm out and about on the plane, like, and
I'm reading Demon Copperhead, like I want people to know I'm reading Demon Copperhead,
you know?
So I will not be, I haven't started it because like, I'm not starting that shit on my Kindle.
I'm sorry.
I'm not.
Because no one has seen you.
I'm not.
Like, I'm just not starting it on my Kindle.
Like when I go to Israel, like I'll be in the airport, like I need everyone to know.
And then I'm flying to Florida.
Right now you'd be reading at home and no one would see what you're reading I could only read Demon Copperhead in public so people know I'm like a scholarly woman but don't
you feel like you'll have a hard time processing the words if you're just like thinking about
everybody looking at you no I thrive off of everybody looking at me no yeah you thrive
but that's not conducive to reading comprehension,
especially with such a meaty, chewy book.
That's true, that's true.
I might have to take some time to reading inside.
It's chewy.
Don't say that, I'm hungry.
What are you gonna have for lunch?
I don't know.
My life has kind of become decentralized to lunch.
Dinner is so my energy these days.
I'm, of course, having lunch, but it's not special. It's decentralized to lunch. Like dinner is like so my energy these days. Like I'm of course having lunch,
but it's not like, it's not special.
Big to do.
I feel like, you know, in recent weeks,
like we've talked about lunch extensively and like it's really been the center of my day.
My whole day revolves around my dinner.
I like, that's so exciting.
You don't do your TWB or your wrap after this.
I haven't done a warm bowl or a wrap in a while.
I was just kind of like eating on the go,
you know, as a working woman,
like some chicken, some fruit,
like nothing exciting.
Yeah, I would agree with that.
Dinner is the main event around here.
Lunch, maybe some egg whites.
Even like, yeah,
I was thinking maybe a Taylor Farms,
but last time I had a Taylor Farms for lunch,
it like sat out on the table.
I couldn't even get around to finishing it.
Because we're busy working women.
Yeah, we need like a smoothie.
Perfect for a gal
on the go
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