The Toast - They Shall Wed with Liz Woods: Thursday, June 26th, 2025

Episode Date: June 26, 2025

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Good morning, girlies, it's the Toast. It's Jackson, Claude, and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast-five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's the Toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast. Happy Thursday, second to last day of Jackson Friends and my official last co-host of Jackson Friends and it is my friend Liz Woods joining me on The Toast today. Welcome Liz.

Thank you so much. I am just delighted to be here. You being here is so full circle. We've been begging you to come on for a long time and you finally acquiesced. Yes, getting me to come on the toast is like converting to Judaism, I feel. Oh yeah, you have to ask three times. No, it's usually the other way,

like someone has to ask us three times before we say yes. And Liz is like the only person that was always denying us. And the time is right and Liz is here. We are so excited to have you on the toast. You have been one of the most requested people to come on because you are like the queen of pop culture. Takes reality TV recaps. Like you are so qualified for the co-hosting gig

that we are so excited to hear from you. And like we always hear from you on Instagram stories, text on screen, but now we get to hear Lizard P live and in person. Long form Lizard P. Long form Lizard P. And I do feel like you are a long form girl. I think I am. I'm certainly long winded, so I'll try to keep that at bay for the podcasting. I'm also the queen of caveats and I've been actively working on just like saying what I mean. So we'll see how I do. Okay well welcome to the Toast. How does it feel to be here? You've been a Toaster like since the beginning as they say OG Brether. OG Brether, Toaster since the beginning.

It feels unbelievably full circle. I was actually texting my roommate from like when I lived in New York when the Toast was in like 2018 and I was like you're never gonna guess where I am and she was just so excited for me. So it's like, yeah, it's a dream. And it's a dream to be in your house and just feel all of your family vibes. It's beautiful. And Florida is actually nicer here than it is in New Jersey.

So which you wouldn't expect this time of year. Yes, Liz and I are having a slumber party. And she'll be co-hosting tomorrow also. So anything we don't get to today, like dear toasters, we will get to tomorrow. We are both caught up on Love Island. We will recap up until this point at the end of the show. And then tomorrow we'll recap tonight's episode. We can watch together, like make some popcorn, cuddle up.

Yeah. I'm like wondering, are we going to watch together or separate? I honestly find that I do my best work when I watch alone. You know what? I think that like the scheduling works better for us watching alone. It's on late. Like I don't sit on my couch that late. I like to be in my bed. So like, yeah, I think we'll go our separate ways.

And that way our takes are fresh for tomorrow. Perfect. Okay, great. Well, tell us a little bit about you for anyone who might not be familiar with Lizard P Woods. You need to follow her on Instagram. Like you are like the Instagram stories version of the toast.

I feel like all the time people are like, this just feels like Liz's Instagram and Liz's Instagram feels, yes, we are symbiotic. Yes, and we chat all the time and we're often talking about the things I talk about and what you talk about here. Yeah, we're also best friends in case you missed it. Yeah, and by the way, it's Liz P Woods.

Lizard is like Jackie's name for me, which I love. I love like having a nickname from you, but it does prevent people from being able to find me. Liz P. Woods. Liz P. Woods. I am a mommy. Mamacita. Yes, I'm a new mom.

Like when does that, when does new mom expire? I say first year. Okay, new mom. So you're six months postpartum. Yes. And you're so skinny. Thank you. So she's also skinny in case you're only listening as a podcast.. So you're six months postpartum and you're so skinny. Thank you. So she's also skinny in case you're only listening as a podcast.

How'd you get so skinny postpartum? I do feel like I was one of those people where breastfeeding actually helped. I know that that's not the case. It took you all the way? It took me very far. And then when I stopped breastfeeding, I kind of like lost my appetite honestly.

And so maybe that helped a bit. So it was just like, you didn't try so hard. Not really. Oh, that makes me feel better though. Cause like, if you tried really hard, then I would. So it was just like, you didn't try so hard. Not really. Oh, that makes me feel better though. Cause like, if you tried really hard, then I would look at myself and be like, why didn't you try harder? But if it happened naturally for you,

it's like, well, that's just not what was in God's plan for me. I do feel like even, I was telling you last night that like my eighth and ninth month of pregnancy were actually pretty easy and I was able to be active. And I remember my doctor saying like, this will be helpful for you both in labor and with like just getting back to yourself and I think that that was true because it did feel like I like graduated from postpartum and I did start to feel more like

me and in my own body so okay that's good that's good that's so nice so how's being a mom new mama Liz it's wonderful I um it's like all the things about it that are the hardest are also the best. Like sometimes when people ask me what's been the hardest thing, I'll say, one of the hardest things is like, you know when you get home from a vacation and you're like ready to unwind and like just relax,

when you get home from a vacation with a baby or toddlers, it's like there's no such thing. The work just begins. Especially like if you go to Disney, it's like there's no such thing. The work just begins. Especially like if you go to Disney, it's like you're doing this whole vacation for them and you get home and it's like, oh, I'm still like doing all of these things. Yeah, yeah.

But the inverse of that is so spectacular because it's like, I love coming home from a vacation and still being with my family. Like that part about it is just magic to me. I feel like I remember going on like trips with my nephew or like my friends and you get home or from camp and you get home and you're like, where is everybody? Like you're kind of sad and miss people.

And it's like, no, I go home and these people still have to be with me. That's true. It's yes, it's like everything that's good is also, the pros and cons are the same thing. So it's like, yeah, it's still hectic. You don't get to relax, but in that relaxation it's also a bit of loneliness and you don't have that.

Yes. So nice. It's been wonderful. And I will say I have a very, I think, easy baby. So that's like made, that was also like an easy part of postpartum is she slept pretty well from the beginning, which I understand can just be like a total crap shoot.

I don't think there's much that I did that necessarily influenced, like I could maybe work on like a bedtime routine or a nap that helped, but like she just very early on was good at sleeping, pretty cooperative, doesn't really cry unnecessarily. So I think that was really helpful. Nice, go Lil. Yeah, go Lil.

And her name's Lillian. Lillian. And I call her Lil, what do you call her? We all call her Lil. Okay, cool. Yeah, she was named after my husband's grandmother who was Lillian and also Lil. Oh, cute.

And it just like works for so many things because it's like Lil Romeo, Lil Romeo, like Lil Bow Wow. Like it just, the names. But she's also Lil Liz is what she really is. Yes, and my husband like didn't realize when we were naming her that like the names are really similar. So sometimes like he already will accidentally

call me Lil or her Liz, but. Well, today you're known as Lizzy because Harry has decided that that's your name. Which is so sweet because I told you that that's what my family calls me. My cousins, my parents. I remember when I was in, like when I went to a new school in fifth grade,

they were like, what's your name? And I had always been Lizzy. And for some reason I was like, Liz. Liz P. Yeah. So getting to be like feeling like a kid again is lovely. Oh, so you're formerly Liz Hite. I'm formerly Liz Hite.

You've done such a good job of the name change. We get a lot of questions from people wanting to change their last names and Claudia and I and Olivia and I just talked about it and we're the wrong people to ask. You did a full rebrand from Liz Hite and you were always like at Liz Hite, Liz Hite, you're at Firsty Lasty and now you're at Liz Height, Liz Height, you're first you lasty, and now you're at Liz P. Woods, and like, it's seamless. I actually took the advice that you gave, I think maybe about Dana,

which was that like the morning of her wedding, like she changed everything. Yeah. That's pretty much what I did. Down to her Venmo handle. That came later, but yeah. I was Liz P. Woods, like I remember being in the hotel room being like at Liz P. Woods.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, now you're Liz Woods, which is a Parji name. Thank you. For a Parji lady. Thank you. It's not very Jewish at all, but like that's OK. And you are a big Jew. Like big, proud Jew.

That's one thing I wanted to say. Big Jew, big Zionist, happy to be here. You guys do a Kiddush Hashem every day by like coming on this show. And just not even when you don't talk about Israel Judaism, like you just represent us so well. And there's a lot of people who are being like afraid to speak out or like be proud and be strong and so like we are in desperate need of people who can like be proud and be strong and you both do it so well. So thank you very much that really means a lot like whenever people say

something akin to that to us like it like it's's our reason to tear. And I could say the same thing to you. Thank you. So we have a lot to accomplish here today. And I feel like the last few days, Tos has been like super buzzy. Like we're in the news, we are the news. And today, like we have to get back to work. Like the stories have been falling

by the wayside a little bit. And so I've brought in the expert and like we will be discussing each story. Okay. Five stories plus TV recap. There's actually a lot to talk about because the celebrities have emerged for the Bezos Sanchez wedding. Yes, and the clip art invitation,

which I think you already talked about. I did, we didn't talk about the aesthetic, we just talked about the gifting, but I do have a lot of questions about the invitation or the card that was shared, like, because it was kind of ugly. And why and how did we see it? The wedding's not even over.

Like, everyone knows you don't share your invitation till after the wedding. Right. I think it reminded me a lot of, like, in the religious community and religious Jewish communities, there's a lot of, like, PDFs sent because a lot of people invite, like, 800 people to their wedding.

So there've been a couple of times when I get, like like a PDF on my phone and that's considered very normal because that's just like how. And also events happen so much faster in the religious world. So that's like kind of what it reminded me of, but the ones I see are way more pargy. This was just like confusing and I don't understand why we had access to it. I think I haven't been following it too closely,

but I think like from a bird's eye view they get a lot of shit for everything that they do. I think they got shit for coming to Venice and taking over the Venetian resources. And I think this was PR to say, we are giving back to the Venetian people, so fuck off and stop ruining our wedding weekend with your nastiness. And I think they accomplished that.

I think so too. And I think people will always hate them. And so they just have to tread, not lightly, but they have to do what they want to do. Keep it in mind. I don't think she's someone who can be slowed down by the haters. No. Do they even hear their haters?

Aren't they so removed from that? I don't know. They could be if they wanted to be. But I feel like she's plugged in. Do you think she knows how we all felt about Blue Origin? Do you think she's a swirly? I feel like she has swirly, like, tendencies. Like, I don't think she, like, would listen to The Toast or anything, just because we're, like, probably, like, annoying.

But she's not, like, there's so many things about her that are just, like, traditional girly things. Yeah. And, like, The Toast is a traditional girly thing. Yeah, and I think maybe you were Claudia once said that the way that she's been doing all of this is like really what one of you would do if you were married to Jeff Bezos.

Like I wanna be like around all of these famous people. Like yes, the money is nice, but like if I had power, like bring me Kris Jenner. Bring me Kris Jenner. Jeff, don't worry, I'm gonna throw you the best birthday party you've ever had. We're gonna have a phone party on the yacht. Like she's doing it right.

I don't know why people are so mad at her. I think maybe the Astro flight was a little, she got a little carried away, but like what did you- Katie took the brunt of that though. Wouldn't you get carried away if you were married to Jeff Bezos and he had a rocket ship? It's like if I was married to someone who had a, I don't know, a convertible, I'd drive it. Yeah, I think I don't, her going on that rocket ship doesn't bother me. If anything, it's kind of impressive

because I would never do it. Yeah. And so she's wanting to be interested in the things that he does. So seems like a good partner. Yeah, seems like a good partner. They both do like flight because she also pilots helicopters

and I'm sure you've seen that. I haven't. And she also has a children's book called The Fly Who Flew to Space and it's about a fly who flew to space. Do you read that one? I have it in my house. Cause I was just doing like a little R and D.

I want to see like what Lauren Sanchez is about. It wasn't my favorite, but for a couple of days, like the boys were into it. They picked it up. You should read it. It's at my house. I'll give it to you. Okay. Yeah. I'm looking forward to it.

Maybe bring it home for Lil. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe she'll become a female astronaut. Oh my god. Change the world. There's like, the Jews just like don't go to space. You know what I mean? Yeah.

At least not the ones I know. So we'll see. We'll see. Well, let's get into the Fast Five story since we're already in it and we'll wait in and out catching up with Lizard P. So now without further ado dot do dot do, it is time for the Fast Five stories that you dot do need to know. Today's episode is brought to you by Skims. Skims is the fabric that is keeping me intact these days because I wear Skims every day in every way.

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after nearly 10 years together. So it's been rumored the last few weeks. We talked about it yesterday, still a rumor, but like now it's true. Page Six is reporting that they have split. A pair told us weekly that they are split but are amicable. It's not contentious at the moment. Katie is of course upset, but is relieved to not have to go

through with another divorce, as that was the worst time in her life. Right, they're not married. That was the most surprising part to me. I didn't realize they weren't married. I'm also not like super tuned in to their relationship. I know they have a daughter, I think Daisy, right? Daisy, yeah.

Yeah, which is so cute and always sad. Like when there's a dissolution of, you know, a relationship with a child. But I do think it's like a red flag that they were engaged for such a long time and didn't get married. I don't know, I read that their wedding was postponed from COVID, but like COVID was,

the onset of COVID was five years ago. Yeah, but now I forgot that she was married to Russell Brand and that that was bad. Yeah. So maybe she just always knew she wasn't gonna get married again. And this definitely makes things simpler. And I also feel like it leaves the door open

for them to get back together. Cause if they just are split right now, like there's no lawyers, there's no hating. You don't get to the place of like pure hatred and like everyone going back for years on on stuff And so like maybe they would love each other again without that hate. It's possible I think yeah, celebrity divorces are always honestly when I see celebrities get married I in the back my mind always think like this is there's like a 5% chance that this will be successful

I think you are like a little bit more Delusional than me in that way because you're always like getting upset when celebrities break up when they break up, but also I think when they get married because it is so hard to get divorced and like Most celebrities don't get married because of that and all the money and it's like very complicated So when they get married i'm like, well, that's that like and I close the book So then when I have to open it back up i'm like well damn Um, and I don't think it's a story because I don't think there's been any anything new

But do you mind if I talk about Travis and Taylor? I would love for you to talk. I know. I would have made it a story if there was literally anything. But I think she took the day off yesterday and was just at home. She knew I was coming on the toast. She had a feeling.

But don't count her out for tomorrow's stories. Right. I would love for you to talk about Travis and Taylor. I bring them up every day with whoever's the co-host. But there's really just not that much to say. And I guess people don't feel as strongly about it as we do. Yeah, I feel so strongly about it. And there was a while, especially like six months

or a year ago where I would always say they shall wed. Like these two are on the path for marriage. I also always hear about people who are in long-term relationships. Then they have like a quick rebound. And then the next one is like the guy. Like I've heard that trope so many times and I was like, oh, that applies here.

And she just seemed to be in like such a happy place and I'm so happy for them. But I'm also kind of like looking at my watch. No, now it's like getting long in the tooth. Yeah, and I read that he's like waiting until his football career is over to like make the next move which could just be, you know, nine months or a year. But I'm a little worried about that

because I think it's like, if someone is always kind of finding, I don't wanna say an excuse, but a reason to delay, I don't love that. I don't love that either. I feel like regular people do that a lot too. It's like, oh, I'll do this when that happens. Or when I get that promotion, then I'll be happy.

And I see so many reels that are like, that's just not a way to live. You have to live in the now. And I really just, I feel like him thinking that way, like I'm not proposing till the end of this season is a stupid way to think. And I actually, I'm gonna choose not to believe that that's what he's doing because it's too stupid.

But like this summer will be their two year anniversary. And so that's when typical Chugui traditional couples would get engaged, right? That's like the usual, like if you're on a standard trajectory, it's like two years till engagement. So like anything before now would have been like really early and just like swept up in the romance. So like once the clock strikes two years, like now I'm

I'm waiting, but like then it just makes me wonder what was that party with the ring pictures where like you saw the Photoshop ring. Yeah, it was totally blurred. Honestly, I think the simplest answer is that she was wearing a ring on her ring finger. It wasn't an engagement ring. And she still didn't want there to be

talks of an engagement. Like, she was just wearing a normal ring. And she realized after she took the picture, oh, that could be perceived as an engagement ring. So I better blur that out. But ultimately, it actually made us more think that she was engaged because it was such a bad Photoshop job. And you don't think that when she put the ring

on her ring finger, she was like, people are gonna think I'm engaged. I feel like she's so aware of what people think about everything she does. I think that she is too, but I don't know. Why would they be engaged this long and they're not? Would we even know if they got married? I think they're engaged, I think,

and I think that the surrogates do any day now. Yeah. And maybe like the surrogate is in Florida, I don't know what their surrogacy laws are here, but like they're spending a lot of time in Florida during the worst time of year in Florida, like it doesn't make a ton of sense, but okay, like go off, I love it here too.

Maybe the surrogate is a Floridian woman and they're being close for the birth. Yeah, I don't understand the training in South Florida in the summer, honestly. That is peculiar. But I do think that- When they have homes everywhere, Nashville is beautiful, this Rhode Island,

you couldn't pull me away. You're onto something, unless maybe there's other people who train in Florida. Or I think maybe there's like a trainer down here. I know he's like training in Miami. Like maybe he sought out a certain person because he's like getting in the game, get your head in the game. But like he could also afford to bring someone to Kansas City or Rhode Island. Yeah, that's where I would spend the summer. I think also there's a lot of like fodder about, oh, maybe she like doesn't want to maybe like

they're just, you know, they're on their own timeline, give them space. I'm like, have you heard any of her music? She wants to be married. The world's biggest romantic. Even in her recent music, which like maybe you could say, oh, when she was younger and speak now, she was so into marriage and Romeo and Juliet.

It's like, no, on the tortured poet's department, she's talking about like how taken aback she was when Maddie Healy would like take a ring finger and put it on her ring finger. Like it made her heart explode. Like this- She's wearing a fucking wedding dress on the stage. Oh, right, right, right, right, right.

Yeah, you pointed that out. She's wearing a wedding dress on the stage. She wants to be married. And so I'm- She's sitting, I'm having his baby. Right, and so I'm just advocating on her behalf. I'm not like putting my own, you know, heteronormative thing on this.

I'm not projecting onto them. And I do feel like with celebrities, like, you know, I understand that I will never understand what's like. And I don feel like with celebrities, like, you know, I understand that. I will never understand what it's like. And I don't even try to like say, you know, Kylie and Timothy, even I'm just like, have a baby. But like, I'm never like get married. Cause I understand it's complicated.

Like, but I agree for her. It's like, well, she said those things. Right. Right. She, she wants those things. And I'm listening. And now she's got a man for two years who wants those things too. Whose brother, he has four kids

and like he's always said that's what he wants. So like, what if he just? What if you just? And it's like perfect too, because they live in Pennsylvania and I've always thought like they'll move to Pennsylvania. That's where she's from. Or like they'll have their home base in PA. It's such a great place to live.

They can be around each other. Her family is always like goes where she goes. So like maybe we'll meet, the twain shall meet in Pennsylvania. You think that's where all roads lead to Pennsylvania? Yeah, I think I could see myself moving back there. It's a beautiful place to be and raise children. We were just talking, I think it's the best state in the country.

They get all the seasons. You have a city. You're close enough to New York if you like New York life. So that's easy for her. But yeah, get married and move to Pennsylvania. I do think in the last few months when they've been low key and down here and just together the whole time, I think something's brewing. Whether it's a surrogate, I don't know.

But I think things are going to the next level. And then the next time that they go on one of their, when he's in season and she's stepping out, I feel like they'll be further along in their relationship in some way. I don't know which way. Maybe he just wants to win another Super Bowl and then propose. I don't, I'm not one of those- I think that's dumb.

I'm not one of those people who thinks that he will propose on the field. I think that's like, I don't know who they think they're talking about when people say that, but I could see him wanting to just be successful and everything is going well, as opposed to he sort of stunk it up at the last Super Bowl, if I may say so. So he just might not have felt in his right mind.

But again, I'm with you. I don't like people who unreasonably delay for those reasons. There's always a reason to delay. And the engagement and your relationship doesn't need to be tied to football. Why don't you focus on the relationship? If you proposed right now, it's like,

well, the Super Bowl was six months ago. Like, we're not even associating the two. And the next one's in six months, so it doesn't take away from, like, now's the time. Yeah, and I don't know what kind of wedding they would have. Like, I could see them going humongous. She is literally the biggest. It would be bigger than the royal wedding,

and I know I'm biased because I'm a fan, but I really think so. Like, she's the biggest star in the world. So they might wanna just, like, you know, do something, scale it back and do a fan, but I really think so. She's the biggest star in the world. So they might want to just scale it back and do a backyard thing in Nashville. I just hope selfishly that we get some of it. So when you have always said they shall wed, do you still feel like they will wed?

Less. I feel that way less. It's the same thing. That's how we got here, was the Orlando Bloom-Katy Perry conversation was when there's like just sort of delays it just makes you question like it makes you question But do you think when you feel like they won't get married you think they'll stay together though It's just like they won't do the legal bit because it's complicated It would be really complicated for them to get married

and so maybe I'm like waiting for something that would never happen because I don't know how your tailors swept and you like organize your life and your lawyers such that like you could protect yourself. But I don't know, I could see them being like long-term. Goldie and, what's Goldie and? Kurt. Goldie and Kurt. Like I can see that for them. And I think that's like, there's a few cases of that

where they're really successful. Like Kylie and Timothy. Right, but they haven't been together long enough for us to say like they're really successful. Like Kylie and Timothy. Right, but they haven't been together long enough for us to say, like they might get married. Like they will be. Okay. Do you think, what do you think about them? OTP?

I'm a little bit, like I love them, but there haven't been a ton of success stories in that family as far as like relationships go. I actually think that Travis and Courtney are like fabulous. And if they like keep going, they could be like the success story, which is amazing because she had children with somebody else and she had like very torrid breakup on camera.

And then she really did seem to just like find it and figure it out. Yeah. So I'm not sure about Kiley and Timothy. I like them, but I don't know if they'll- You're saying history as an indicator is not good. Yes. Okay.

I might burst my bubble. Well, actually our next story is some Kardashian news because Kim Kardashian is set to star in the new Bratz movie as a villain. So Kim is being eyed to play the villain in Amazon MGM's Bratz movie. Amazon won a bidding war for rights to the live action film about the popular children's toy

in hopes of backing the next Barbie. Additional details about the plot and cast haven't been revealed. I think she'll get the part because she's at Jeff Bezos' wedding. And if she says, I want the part, then Jeff will call and say, give her the part, right? Yeah, you have some family lore with the Bratz movie.

Well, that's the other part of the story. I love Bratz movie. We were never like Bratz dolls girls. We are more American girl dolls. Yeah, same here. But the Bratz movie, and they've already made a Bratz movie, and so I don't know why they need to recreate or try and redo what's a perfect thing,

but that's what they love to do. The Bratz movie, as you guys know, we used to love it growing up, and we were watching it one morning, and in the middle of it, we found out that our dad passed away, which was really obviously sad. And then when we, so we went to the hospital and like we spent the day doing that.

And then we came home and we finished the movie. So do you think that this would help with your association, like a new version or you actually seem to have a positive, a decent association? I love the Bratz movie. And I love it so much that not even like the greatest trauma in my life could change how I feel about the movie.

And so if they could read, if this new movie could be that level of amazingness, and I'm not even joking, like watch the Bratz movie, like it's fucking pargy. Is it like an, is it animated? No, it's a live action Bratz. There's like four girls there in high school and the campus is like so beautiful. And there's like this mean girl who's like tearing them

apart, making everyone feel like they need to be in like cliques and like just be in a box. And they're like, well, I like sports and I like science and I like drama. Why can't we be friends? And it's just an amazing movie with an amazing message and like a good soundtrack too and Chet Hanks is in it. Oh, no kidding. Yeah, that's funny. What a what a roster he has. No, it's the most random movie, but it's so good. So I would say if this Bratz movie could be that good. I of course want more goodness. this Bratz movie could be that good. I of course want more goodness.

Knowing Hollywood nowadays, it can't be good. They just can't make a good movie. So in that case, don't mess with perfection. I see. I actually think that Kim being like the villain in the Bratz movie is perfection. I think that's perfect. And I know that you are skeptical of her acting journey

and I understand why, but I was thinking about it today and I was thinking like, I think in a lot of ways, her acting in traditional roles is actually probably one of her end game goals for her, because she grew up in Hollywood around all of those people who, to her, being famous was everything. And the way that you got famous when she was growing up was being an actor and things.

So I kind of understand why she has that goal. And I also think they're always trying to diversify their platforms and get to audiences in different ways. So I think this is perfect. Also, she's such a brat. She has such big features, and she's so that way. And the third thing I wanted to say

was that I think I understand people who want to get involved in children's projects when they have children. It's the way you always talk about people who do children's projects when they have children. Yeah. It's the way you always talk about people who do like soundtracks when they have kids. Yeah. So I think it's like, I think that that's perfect. That's very kind and generous of you.

And I agree that like, if she's going to be an actress, this is a fun thing to act in. I would want to be in a Bratz movie too. Just knowing like the history and how it's such a storied franchise. And they already have the next Barbie on their hands, but they don't even fucking know it. However, I will never be so tolerant and sympathetic towards why she wants to be an actress now,

when she's conquered the world. And I just, it boggles my mind. She does have a lot on her plate. I do think the law school part is behind her, although I think she has to study for the bar, so that part isn't behind her, but I do think- And then she's gonna be a lawyer still? She has said in interviews that she like wants to keep it

in her back pocket, and I do think she probably like when she was doing all those things, going to the White House, Alice Marie Johnson, she probably did feel really out of her element. Now that would never be like motivation enough for me to like take six years to do that when I had four children and was also dealing with like very public divorce and all of these changes. But is it possible she just likes it that she likes the craft? Yeah, but like then you can like study the law on the side, like you don't have to take it all the way. No, acting. We have to act.

Acting. Like you don't have to take it all the way. No, acting. We have to act. The acting. I can't like, you know how we feel about actors and actresses, like it's just crazy town. Yeah. It's crazy town.

And like you do it as a means to an end, like and the high life and the glamour and like that she already has that ending or you do it because like you're so like passionate about acting. About the craft. Theater and you were a theater kid in drama, and she's not that either.

So she has all the perks of the Hollywood life. She doesn't have that itch for the love of theater. Right. So what are you doing? Well, I guess we'll see. Time will tell with the Bratz movie. Are you gonna watch that new show she's in? Oh, is it a Ryan Murphy show?

Yeah. She's like Laura Wasser. Yeah. Yes watch that new show she's in? Oh, is it a Ryan Murphy show? Yeah. She's like Laura Wasser. Yeah. Yes, like that is so up my alley. I always joke like every time my husband does something that's cringey, I'm like, call Laura Wasser. She's the celebrity divorce lawyer to the stars. And I think that's actually like,

it looks like it'll be good. There's other people, like there's other good people in it. Glenn Close is in it. So I think I'll give it a try. Her other show that she was in, American Horror Story. Not for me. Did you watch it? I think I was give it a try. Her other show that she was in, The Ryan- American Horror Story? Not for me. Did you watch it? I think I was pregnant when it was on

and it was very about like pregnancy and babies and it was very, very disturbing. And I was trying to like keep that demonic energy away from me. So I didn't finish it. Okay, that's good. But you'll give the divorce show a shot. Yeah, I will.

Okay, I guess if I hear that it's good, but I'm not as open-minded as you. Like you're very optimistic. There's just like a dearth of good television. the divorce show a shot. Yeah, I will. Okay, I guess if I hear that it's good, but I'm not as open-minded as you, like you're very optimistic. There's just like a dearth of good television. And so anytime something like sounds good, I will try to give it a try. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Our next, actually, and a little more Kardashian and Jason news part of this story is that Rob has made an appearance in a photo with Kim and Lala Anthony. So Kim posted a photo on Instagram on Wednesday saying happy birthday to Lala and Rob is in the picture. So I think it's like a recent photo, if not like, you know, in real time.

And we get a little Rob appearance. I love seeing Rob anytime we do. I think it makes total sense why they decided to like pull the plug on his being on the show. I think like there, I mean, there was was a whole court case about his relationship with China, so I get why it's like we have to separate that. I don't think he really liked it, honestly. I think he probably had a really toxic relationship with filming, which a couple of them do, but

they stick it out and tolerate it because they know that it's the best way for them to remain relevant and have their businesses be successful, but it just didn't work for him. That being said, I love anytime we get a glimpse of him. Yeah, that he's doing well and he's still very much in the mix and like with the family. But yeah, I honestly am what they do on the show. It's very girly. Very girly. It's for the girls.

Like there was never even when things were going well for him on the show, like in the early days, like I remember that I had that group therapy session. Oh yeah. Like there was never anything for him there and that was probably really frustrating for him, but like it was for the girls. Yeah, it was for the girls. And there were like a couple of times that I,

when you look back, you realize like that should not have been for TV. I remember there was one episode when he had like gained weight and he was at the doctor. Do you remember this? And Kim is like trying to budge in to like talk to him. And he's like, no cameras, like I'm so uncomfortable. And you can kind of hear him crying.

That's like, it's not for TV. Yeah. So when we get these glimpses into him that are like what he wants, I'm always happy to see him doing well. Yeah, me too. Our next story is a little update from Briner. Sabrina Carpenter unveils an alternate man's best friend

album art that she says is approved by God amid the controversy. So I guess I'm technically a part of this controversy, though my issue with her cover is different than everyone else's issue. Like I just think it's not premium and pargy and the nature of it and like the mess, like that doesn't like bother me as much

because Brina is gonna brine, you know? But she did put out another photo as an alternate album cover. So I don't know what this actually means for like, you know, streaming and how we're gonna see it. And it's really a beautiful photo. Like it looks like one of those photos from like the sixties of like, you know,

that reminds me of that photo of, you know, who Jane Mansfield, like I'll find it. It's like a black and white photo. And it's just like her on the arm of a man. Yeah, I don't know whether this will be the album cover you see when you stream. I thought Olivia's point about this. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's Sophia Loren and Jane Mansfield. It's just like a beautiful black and white photo, like sort of candid, sort of not. That's what it reminds me of. I really like it. I didn't really care so much about the salaciousness of the cover until I heard what Olivia said when she was on the toast, which was like,

when you're streaming songs in the car, you see the album covers. They just come up. And I do think on the other hand of that, it's like, well, we grew up with Britney album covers, or I did. And I would play them on my jukebox or radio or whatever so like I saw those covers too. This maybe feels like a step above just like a woman scantily dressed but I thought that just like was a really good point like we don't always have to go

like be the most sexual just because we can and she doesn't she also doesn't really like need to she has such a huge audience and a huge following. And I love that, like what you say, her like sexiness is part of her shtick. And I think she usually does it really well, which is why the album cover was kind of surprising. I mean, I think the people writing think pieces about it need to touch grass, but I didn't love it either.

Yeah, I think it's best when it's like more subtle and it's like, you can listen to the same song, like kids and they to the same song like Kids and they hear one thing and like the parents hear another and I think that's just like the best way of doing it And it allows everyone to enjoy your music Yeah, so if you want to like then take a left turn and go harder in the pain It just means that like okay, it's not for everyone anymore and

Again, like not an iconic beautiful image. Sorry, like that's where I get hung up. That's not not an iconic, beautiful image. Sorry, that's where I get hung up. That's not an album cover. Right. That's not an album. It's a picture from a mix film. It was like film. Yeah.

Yeah. I see that. I think that this is your impact, by the way. Me? Yeah. Or you spoke for a lot of people when you said this cover that she originally put out was not pargy.

It wasn't beautiful. And maybe your point was a little bit different from like what the people on Twitter were saying. It's a little bit different from people being like, this is bad. Like she's meant to be a role model and this is bad for women and it's degrading. And like, I, like she deserves the right to like

express herself and how she wants it. That's what she wants to be. You know, it's like when it reminds me a little bit of like when Miley was like, it's so not the same cause Sabrina's always been this way and never really, but it's kicked up another notch. And then yeah, you do alienate. Some parents don't want their kids to listen to this.

And it's like, well, that's not good for business. Yeah, I think that she, I think that the tweets she could always ignore, but like once it gets to like the toast and maybe like page six picks it up, I think she realizes, oh, and not to mention you're like her biggest fan and you never say a bad word about her. Right. And I'm still not saying I'm like, Breaner's gonna Brean. Right. And so, but so that's how you criticize your faves is just being like, this isn't for me. She should do what she wants, but it isn't for me. And she heard that and said,

okay, here's like the God approved cover. Wow. And the Jax approved cover. You think so highly of me. Well, thank you so much. Even if I don't know what the what was going on in Breaners head, but that's so nice that you think I have an impact. You do. I mean, she like a good artist's team will listen to their big fans and you're a big fan. And you have a platform. And I'm still like, I would, I would still listen to this album. Like it's not going to change how you like as long as the music is still good, which it's going to be because it's her and she's like, she really doesn't miss, but I can just like say like it doesn't spark joy, the cover. Yeah. Understandable. I like this one though. Yeah. So we'll see how that lands on, you know, Spotify and Apple Music and all that. I don't know which one will be.

Yeah. Maybe like when there's like a clean version of the album and then they just will I said they would have two different covers. That's smart. That is smart. And honestly makes it easier for me to know which one to select when I'm listening. Yeah. Because I don't know how to find, like, I'm not going to start typing, like, you know, short and sweet, clean. Like, I just am typing Sabrina. Do your boys like listening to that type of music with you? No, but sometimes if they're not paying attention, I can get away with playing some of mommy's

songs. Like, if they have, after we've listened to Spidey and his amazing friends and we know the way from Moana, and then they're like satiated or maybe they're falling asleep, then I can put on what I wanna listen to. I was exposed to Tonys for the first time this morning with your sons and I think that they're truly fabulous. Oh, we love Tonys.

People were telling me about them when Lillian was really small and so they just didn't apply to me yet. They still kind of don't, but it is such a good idea. Like if the maker of Tonys is listening to this, like well done, because it's just great technology that I never would have thought of. And it really is a way to like captivate kids

without like being in front of a screen. But still like really, I don't know. I just think it's like such a great idea. There's music, there's stories and they seem to love it. They love it. And they can like put the Tonys on the box and decide what they wanna play, and you don't have to keep changing the song.

And sometimes they'll listen to one for 20 seconds and then change, or they'll listen to one for a few minutes. They can get all their favorite characters. We need Mario and Luigi on Tonys, if anyone at Nintendo could work on that. That's the only ones we're missing. But Tonys is also kind of like a new thing. So I feel like the amount of characters

that they even have is amazing. They have so many. Yeah. We love it. I would say if your kids are starting one and up, I remember Charlie was doing DJ Tony around when he turned one because we already had Tony's for Harry. Got it.

Yeah. I mean, I think it's great. And I think it's hard to keep kids entertained without just always putting the TV on. And so I think it's hard to keep kids entertained without just always putting the TV on. And so I think it's a great... It kind of captures what TV does without the screen. Yeah. When I brought them last summer, Claudia, I called them the boys talk radio boxes. That's what I said to Chris this morning.

Because he was playing classical music for my daughter. And I was like, yeah, the soundtrack here is a little different. I think they're listening to stories. It's like radio. Yeah. So yeah, they're great. And they have Beethoven, yeah, like the soundtrack here is a little different. I think they're listening to stories. It's like radio. Yeah. So yeah, they're great. And they have Beethoven's wig Tony. I'll have to play that one for you.

It's really good. It's funny. It's like, it's actually really funny. It's one of my favorite Tonys. It reminds me a little bit of Ian the narrator from Love is Blind. Because it has an accent. Who I love.

And it's like comedy with classical music. It's hysterical. That's like toast radio. Yeah. Toast radio. And then they also have a maestro, Tony, that teaches how to compose and it's such a good one. And we like that. I need that. It's that we have like a Beethoven book in my family that I gave to my nephew and that I read to Lillian, which is like all learning about the symphony through Beethoven's fifth night, Beethoven's fifth symphony. And it like teaches you all about the instruments and all about the instruments and like where the instruments come from.

So we're big on that type of stuff. I need to get the Maestro Tony. You need to get the Maestro Tony. I'll give you a sneak peek today when you come back to my house. So proud of Breiner for giving us more options. Yes, and just for like owning it and just saying, like I saw what you guys said,

here's a new album cover and also like, it's got approved. I loved that. Yeah, it's funny, but like then the other part of me is now like, you shouldn't have backed down, Reena. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're not about that. I'm not about backing down, but I am about Pargy artwork. So I'm stuck, but I appreciate this and we'll see how it actually plays out

if this is like a limited edition thing or if it will come up when I'm playing her new album. There are very few artists where like when they come out with new music, I know that when I play the album, I will just love it. And so anytime there's one of them, like I will always support it. It's like her, Taylor Swift, Olivia Rodrigo.

I don't know if you feel that way about Olivia Rodrigo. I do. So I'm always gonna support her music. Yeah, same. I feel the same. Like I'll add it to my like songs before I've been here and I know I'm gonna like it and I want it on my playlist. Same for like Lou Combs, Morgan Wallen,

even though he's now has like 30 songs. So I have to be selected. Rascal Flatts, probably. Rascal Flatts, we need more refueled duets, you guys. They didn't do Broken Road. So I feel like that leaves the potential for a sequel album. It's the best, did you listen to it?

No, I'm not as much of a country person as you guys are. Oh my God, I love it so much. I just love them, like seriously. Who would you love to hear them do the Broken Road with? Oh, I mean, my mind just goes to like the clad, like Lou Combs, like just a fellow country singer, but like I trust them, except for Backstreet Boys, to pick the right person for the song.

I went to a Luke Holmes concert this summer. I do really like Luke Holmes. Like, obviously I'm not as obsessed as you guys are, but I have to say, even if you're not a country fan, like he just puts on such an amazing show. It felt like a rock concert. Yeah. So I was like, I went home and told Chris,

I was like, you would love it. And he's not a big country guy either because like it's such a good performance. And it's so musical. He doesn't do all of the stuff that even they do at the Aras tour, which I think is great. But he's just such a musician that I think anybody could go to his concert and enjoy it.

I agree. I agree, putting respect on Luke's name. Our next story, Demi Lovato has a new cookbook coming out, called One Plate at a Time to help others heal their relationship with food. So Demi Lovato is cooking up something new and it's not an album, it is a cookbook. The book is called One Plate at a Time,

Recipes for Finding Freedom with Food. It will be available next spring. Demi has been open about her struggles with bulimia and other eating disorders and she told fans on social media that the project was born out of her own healing journey with food. She said, stepping into the kitchen and learning how to cook has been such an important part of my recovery and healing my relationship with food. The book is filled with simple, comforting recipes that have allowed me to reconnect with myself and find both freedom and joy in my kitchen, feelings that I never

thought I could experience." I think this is great. I really do. And I know that Demi has made a lot of career moves that I haven't understood. And she's like the frozen yogurt thing I thought was so a real low for her. But I actually think this is wonderful because I think that's a real thing for people who like struggle with eating disorders is that food carries carries so much weight, no pun intended, but just being able to be in the kitchen and cook

and enjoy food I think would be such a wonderful way for people to heal. So I love this for her. I agree. I'm curious how that's going to come through in a cookbook. It's not about healthy recipes, because it's not about thinking about food in healthy versus unhealthy. And it's also a little recipes because it's not about thinking about food in healthy versus unhealthy.

And it's also a little bit about like learning how to cook to appreciate, like, so I just wonder like tactically how she will be able to get that message through in a cookbook. I almost feel like a cooking show would be an easier way to show like the joy of cooking and like the wonders of food. So I just, I wonder if the message is gonna be able

to come through in a book is all my concern. Maybe she'll do like a bunch of reels kind of cooking the recipes in the book. She should get lunch on the, on her reels. She should get Lish. Yeah. I think I hear what you're saying. So maybe it wouldn't translate to a cookbook,

but I think if she's able to do like a digital manifestation of the cookbook, then it could be great. Yeah, but then it's like, okay, then it's the digital piece that's making it. And it's the video that's making it make sense. Yeah. I don't know who's like buying this book, but I think it's a good career move for her. I think so too, like leaning into the, she does a lot of cooking videos. That's what I've seen like from her a lot.

And then it also just makes me wonder like from, I love a cookbook. So like, what are the recipes gonna be? And how can I trust, like what makes you qualified to give me a recipe? Right, and is it only geared toward an audience that has maybe struggled with something like this in the past, or could it be broadly applied to people who just like want good recipes?

And if you are talking a lot about like the journey of healing, like is it, does it read almost more like a- Like a self-help. A non-fiction book with recipes tied in. She's kind of bitten off a lot here with this project. And she's, she's dug herself into like a corner of people. It's very niche. It's very niche.

Yeah, that I understand. So I will say the avocado toast that she made in the reel where she was announcing her cookbook looked very good. And it looked manageable for someone who's like maybe a novice but also not it wasn't just like putting toast in the oven and slapping avocado in it. What was it? So she grilled the bread on a pan. Do you ever do that like with your sourdough?

No, I put it in my toaster oven. Yeah, so do I. I think that's like a good easy way to level up cooking but like I never do it. And then she took like a clove of garlic and crushed it on the bread, and then put avocado on it normally, and then sprinkled maybe a little oil and salt. So it was just kind of like,

it was a manageable recipe, but also still gave something besides putting toast in an oven. That sounds good. We're gonna get lunch after this. Yeah, pure Vita. Sounds good. I actually want that avocado toast,

actually sounds really good right now. Um, so while I'm holding space and I support Demi and like I support this era of Demi and like I might just buy the cookbook to support her and to support this wholesome endeavor. Um, I think she's maybe bitten off a bit more than she could chew, but I what do I know? And I am curious what the actual recipes will be like, because even when you talk about avocado toast, I feel like that's a super food. It will make you feel good.

It will make you feel strong and full and not thinking. Maybe these are recipes that help you feel nourished, full, hearty, so you're not thinking about food all day. Yeah, it's not like diet foods, but it's also not like, you know, like Ina Garden makes recipes. Butter with a side of oil. This is like a good, like mindful eating.

I don't know if like that's something she'll touch on in the books, but I could totally see it being like a great balance of recipes that, like you said, help keep you full and are healthy. Yeah, yeah. And I just would like to know like where she got the recipes from, since she's a novice cook,

like maybe she has a chef that she works with, which would give it credibility. I would like that. Yeah, I also think that this type of, there's so many celebrity businesses and people get down on celebrities for having businesses all the time. This is so inoffensive.

Like when celebrities come out with skincare or makeup brands, some of them are great. And I never am one of the people who's criticizing them for doing it because the cream rises, but literally like the skin cream rises but this is just like she's putting out a book she's not like using all these resources and oversaturating a market like she's taking up space and taking time and you know resources away from another brand like there are millions of books in the world Demi Lovato can write whatever she wants exactly I agree a book

is not offensive. But I'm also not someone to be like, you shouldn't be in this space. No, anybody can do anything they want. Just don't buy it. No, and it's like, if it's a bad idea, it's not going to work. So it doesn't really matter what you think. And if it works, then it was something that people wanted. So great.

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use code toast at checkout for an additional 15% off their 90-day subscription starter kit. Our fifth and final story is something that I'm kind of obsessed with because Perfect Match season three just announced their cast and I feel personally attached to this because I did know that Juliet Porter when she was here she told me offline that she was going on Perfect Match but she obviously didn't say anything on the show on the toast so I'm like rooting for my girl and then I saw that Freddie from Love is Blind UK is also going to be on the season.

So more than that, AD and what's the name of AD's? They are engaged. You want to say? Yeah, Ali. Ali is also from Love is Blind UK, the same season as Freddie. Right. They are both on the show and we do know in real life,

like she's pregnant and they're engaged. Was that from the Perfect Match? Yes. Oh. Yes, so like this, I've never watched the show before. I don't really know the format, but like between Juliet, Freddie, AD and Ollie, also Clayton, I didn't watch his season with the Bachelor. He's on, Rachel from the Bachelor's on.

Like there's a lot of familiar faces. I'm wondering if I need to watch perfect match. Yeah, I've never seen it. I know you love Freddie. I also think this is your impact and the toasts impact is like how much you guys platforming love and championed him. And he needs like, he needs love.

Can Jaylen go on this show by the way? Like they need to bring on people who were wronged by reality TV. Like there should be a reality show like called like P-JOM nation. Where all the P-JOMs from all these shows get together and find love. Cause that's what like a common theme from this month

I've spoken to like a lot of reality TV people and I'm like, and they're single and I'm just like, well, what if we just beep, beep, bop, bop. And I think we need a show called P-Joms where these people can meet each other. Rachel Kirkconnell. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Actually like also Matt James, I think,

could stand to meet someone, maybe not on the same season. But like, yeah. I agree, I completely agree. Craig was Craig, Craig which is here. I'm so glad that you guys, I don't know if you talked about it on the Patreon or when he was here, but like how he was just the star of the Briss,

which I was lucky enough to be at. Like he really was, like everybody. And then you were there, what was your experience? Well, he was obviously the tallest person in the room because like not Jewish. So like, although Ben's tall, but like he was really the tallest person in the room. And everybody was talking about him,

especially because like you said, the services were long. And so we were all just like kind of looking around, kibitzing. And the women were like on the top, cause it was split. So it was like men, like on the bottom women were in the rafters and like we get to like chit chat. And that's like our role.

And so we're just looking down at all the guys. I said, I turned to Margo and said like, he must be really bored because we were all kind of bored. If I, if I could say something, God bless Ruby. Yeah. But like it's, it's, it's boring to go to morning services. And I was like, we didn't even get to the Ruby part until like an hour and a

half, the Ruby wasn't even in the room. Right. So I thought that he handled it like so well. And the fact that like he came on and was just, you know, felling. No, I think we're all thinking, is Craig OK? It's for a shortage. And then to hear that he was so into it.

It was really beautiful. I'm always, when there's righteous gentiles who come among us and not only are participating, but have wonderful things to say, you'll always have a good spot in my book. No, 100%. Also P. John. Put him on P. John Nation on Netflix. P.'ll always have a good spot in my book. No, a hundred percent. Also P-Jom, put them on P-Jom nation on Netflix. P-Jom nation, yeah.

I love this idea. Along with Jaylen and Charlie. I have to think of more women. Charlie. More women, Juliette. Juliette. Who else was here? Well, it's a Love Island spoiler.

Should I not say? No, we're spoiling Love Island today. And actually we can start right now because that was the fifth and final story. So let's get into it. Who else? No, we're spoiling La Violin today. And actually we can start right now because that was the fifth and final story. So let's get into it. Who else? Olandria. Olandria.

I mean, I don't know if she's out. It doesn't seem like she's out of the villa, but I thought she had such a wonderful, like she just wonderful one. She was so strong. And she had to deal with like all these people crying. It's like, no, like I felt annoyed for her because like I understand that the women are upset

and it would be one thing if they were not upset at all. Like you want them to be kind of upset that you're leaving but then they were sort of like making it about them. I'm sorry, they were crying like wild hyenas. If I were one of the Casa, more boys who, they all seem really cool and like actually more like better catches than the Villa guys. Agreed.

I would run from these women the way that they were wailing. And Alandria is not even crying. Now Alandria has been like a fan favorite. She's been my favorite. But as I've gotten really frustrated with the Villa, it's hard enough for me to take it out on Alandria because with great power comes great responsibility. And I feel like she's the leader of the girls.

Like she's the oldest, she's the smartest. And the fact that like the girls made, I'm not gonna get over them sending home Hannah making the dumbest decision. And like, I feel like where was Olandria in that moment to stand up to obviously what was Huda's master plan. And where was she to say, of course Hannah's not going home. And of course it's gonna be Amaya.

And then look how that worked out because Amaya wound up being the one to knock her out by no fault of Amaya's. The way that they ran that episode with Casa and the recoupling and how it all went down was not conducive to a good show. Because think about like Tommy and Molly on their season. If they went to Casa Amor and Tommy did not engage

with one of the girls because his girl is Molly and he's like, that's the test of Casa Amor to see if your relationship is stronger than all these temptations. So say he didn't engage with her because, engage with anyone because like he knows that Molly is his girl. So none of the girls chose him. That would be like the normal thing.

And then he goes home or leaves the villa. I don't know what's gonna happen to Nick and Alandria, but let's just say go home because they did say you've been sent home or leave the villa, whatever. I don't know what even, like so stupid. So it's like he's being punished for being loyal. That's kind of what happened to Nick,

even though he was trying to make moves on Jayden. I think Jayden chose Austin. She probably liked Nick more. I think she chose Austin because it's a safer choice and that secures her spot. And it's like, yeah, Nick, you're cute, but like, I want to be on the show. So I know you're going to go back to Sierra most likely. I want to be here.

I would go with Austin. I think that's why she walked up to Austin immediately and why she's staying by Austin, even though her conversations with Nick are obviously like much more flirty and cute than her conversations with Austin. I think that the criticisms you have of the way that they're handling this are actually like a byproduct of how meh the contestants are this season. Like I think the producers are doing all of this as a response to them because they need to make it entertaining. And I don't think these people are that entertaining with the exception of Huda, which was like, yes, it was hard to watch, but it was like a car wreck.

Like you had to watch and it kept people watching. So I don't love it either, but I also like it, when they got to Casa, it wasn't interesting because there are no strong couples that needed to be tested. So I think production was like, okay, how do we keep the audience interested? And they did it this way. But I think the audience, this does not keep us interested because Nick and Alandria were fan favorites separately

and together of course, Nick Alandria edits, we've all seen and now they're probably like having a field day and unless production did this for the Nicolandria stands of which there are maybe 20, I don't understand why they did this. Like what is this accomplished? Nick and Sierra were the strongest couple in the house. We're here for strong couples.

Like we wanna test the couples. We wanna see if they still come back to one another. But I don't wanna watch a bunch of random every night meet a new person, watch them have intro combos. What's important to you? What's your favorite fruit? What's your favorite fruit? What do you do?

Like I go through that. That's like the love is blind pots. I go through that to get to the good stuff. Making me go through that every night and right when someone reaches a point of interest, they have a target on their back for having a relationship. Or they get sent home for staying loyal to their relationship.

What am I watching? I think Nick and Elandria are staying, though. OK. Because they didn't, everybody pointed this out. They didn't say, you have now been dumped from the villa. They just said, pack your bags. You're leaving. And also, that flashing light that comes up

when they leave the villa that says loves me not, apparently was not, it didn't say loves me not. It said like loves me not. And then of course, like when she pulls up in the car and says get in, it's obviously like an exciting get in. Like we're going somewhere. So I agree, maybe they're not dumped from the villa, but they want us to think that they are, it's so stupid.

Like it's so stupid. I think that people said they did on Love Island UK once bring people to like a hideaway. So they made you think that they were leaving the island, but then they go to a hideaway together, either to like, you know, watch over what's going on in the villa in Casa Amor, but it could also be interesting because if people,

they're putting the Nicolandria thing to the test by putting them together in a hideaway. But that would be really crazy if that's what they're doing. The Olandria thing to the test by putting them together in a hideaway. But that would be really crazy if that's what they're doing. The show is being run by Twitter and then they do things that they think Twitter will like and then it's like a day later and we're like, no, that's not what we wanted.

And it's not a way to run your show. Also, Olandria is all locked in on Taylor for some reason. I don't think she's interested in Nick. I think she was talking to a lot of nice guys at Casa Amor and like it's Taylor for her. So to put them in a hideaway, like I just don't think that's gonna do much. Plus Nick has his plate full between Sierra and Jaden.

Yeah. I just don't get it. Like that was like the weirdest thing I've ever seen. And it's becoming, not that I wanna like feel bad for the Islanders, but it's becoming like psychological warfare in there. Like every day, not knowing like what's coming that night. And like you go on a show that has a format

because you wanna find love say. So say you're finding love and like you think that you're doing the right things. And like at any moment, the rug can be pulled out from under you. I think when you're in the Island, like it is like almost cultish in the sense that when you leave, it feels like the end of the world, which I can understand,

because they're so removed from literally everyone and everything until it feels like the end of the world. But also if you like someone and you're taken away from them every single night going through this, they can't even enjoy a drink. They're like, when's the text coming? When's the shoe gonna drop? And it's becoming a little bit like a torture chamber.

Yeah. I do think that Love Island seasons past have done a little bit of that. I remember, I think maybe it was last season or two seasons ago on UK. They just randomly dumped someone who was in a really good couple. And that was great.

And then that person came back to Casa Amor, which is why you always hear the fodder of, oh, well, maybe they'll bring Jeremiah back for Casa Amor. I'm not over Jeremiah leaving. I don't think he's coming back because he was on the Vilephiles. Like, I think once you go on the podcast, you ain't coming back. I thought that too,

but like, it still looks like he could be in Fiji. Like, he was just in front of a curtain. And so maybe them letting him do podcasts, like, makes us think he's not coming back. I don't think he's coming back because I don't think the show would do anything that's like actually what we want. Or also, I don't think he's coming back because I don't think the show would do anything that's actually what we want. Or also I don't think his connections were that strong

where it would make it work. Andrina. I know, but like. Andrina's like breaking my heart. Like just watching her like stumbling around gossiping with no friends and no man. And like this guy that she's throwing herself after, like he doesn't even seem that interested in her when she went from being like the prize. Like, oh my God, everyone was ready to cut

and run from their relationships from her. And now she's in Casa Amores, like the lowest rung on the ladder, like what? Yeah, and Huda seems to be like doing pretty well in Casa. She's getting by and that's like the theme. It's like the people who are doing well this season are people who are not shining and not failing, like who are just getting by and like people who are not shining and not failing,

who are just getting by and doing what they need to do and that's not interesting. Those people were never the interesting reality TV stars. It's the people at the bottom and the people at the top. So why are we not cutting, trimming some of the fat here? And now there's like 50 people on the show, so it's also hard to keep track. But I'm gonna keep watching

because I love talking about it with everybody. And I need to see this through 22 episodes in. It's been fun to be a part of something and it's been good for this, it's good for business. So, and now I've made it part of my nightly routine so I can handle it. And yeah, I guess I wanna see it through, but I don't know what this means for next season for me.

I think this has been really, really bad for the brand of Love Island. It's really bad. Yeah. I think, as you know, last season was amazing, which is like your Achilles heel, that you didn't watch it and now you're stuck watching this one. And I watched the one before it. I watched season one Love Island USA. I think I watched season two. I don't remember which was which, but I watched the COVID one on the rooftop in Las Vegas. I didn't know that that's that. That's where like Selly came from. Justine, who won that season, is on Perfect Match also. Oh, got it. Okay. I didn't know that this was happening. After that was the Shannon and Josh season. Watch watched most of that. Uh-huh.

Yeah, they were trying to replicate last season and they picked, in my opinion, a bunch of duds with the exception of Jaylen and Charlie. Charlie, Annalandre is good, but almost not right for this show because she is not quick to open up. No. And let down her walls.

She should've gone on Love is Blind. Yeah, she should've, or even The Bachelor. Yeah she should have or even like the bachelor because she wants a real relationship and no one like I hear I think people are like I would take one but it's not why I'm here. It's not at the forefront of their mind and I actually do think love island can produce good relationships because even if people go on with the intention of growing their following being put on an island without your like forget your following like maybe it'll grow when you're away but like you're not even looking at your phone. So I think it's, I think people who fall in love,

I think most of the time it's real. Like look at Molly and Tommy. I know they're like the best success story, but- But like you really get to know each other. So like if you don't like this person, you're not gonna like them, but you get to see everyone through a bit. Like all you do is sit there and talk.

Yes, and it seems like just on the season, the people are not really doing that. And when Alandria was leaving and she said like, I haven't been in a relationship in five years, I just want someone to love me. Like I just, my heart broke because I think that she, are you thinking it could have been Jalen? I said Jalen would have, yeah.

He would have, but she didn't like him. I don't fault her for that. No. It's not her fault that the greatest man in the world liked her and she didn't feel the same way. Yeah, and Alandria, like you deserve someone like Jalen, but if you don't like him, you don't like him. It's not her fault that the greatest man in the world liked her and she didn't feel the same way. Yeah. And, Alandria, you deserve someone like Jalen, but if you don't like him, you don't like him.

Yeah. And there must be something about Taylor that's not coming across on the television screen. Yeah. He's got two girls in their casa more. Coco and Clark. Who did he end up with? Clark.

He really likes Clark. And Coco was with Ace? Yeah. OK. That's fine Clark. And Coco was with Ace. Yeah. OK. That's fine, I guess. We'll see. Grayson and Pepe. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Classic. There's a Grayson and there's a Jaden. Yeah, there's a Grayson and a Jaden. And then for the boys, the only couples that are like, in Casa Amor that are standing out to me are Sierra and Alon. Love.

Love. I hope that she's jump ship. Even though I like Nick, but like he's not giving her what she needs and Alon is like dialed in on Sierra. Huda would really flirt with anyone at this point. I don't like see a connection between the person, JB, JD.

I'm not seeing it, but she'll take this thing all the way. Shelly and Chris, I like. Although I don't know how to feel about this idea that Shelly and Ace knew each other before and were sort of like going on the show as people who were a couple or like I don't know what they're trying to do, maybe gain a following.

But so that like puts it weirdly into perspective. And actually, I think you could see that when Shelley was talking to, I think, Sierra, and she said like, you know, if he came in in the beginning, like this would have like maybe changed things. He would have been someone I would have talked to. So maybe if that is the plot that like her and Ace came on to like do this together, that she really was like thinking

through she might like this other guy. Yeah. And I'm shocked that the producers haven't kind of interfered with Shelley and Ace yet, especially knowing that people really don't like Ace. If they're listening to Twitter, they're not about Ace. And testing them to see what the deal with their relationship. I feel like other people have been so singled out,

like Jeremiah, Hannah, things were really orchestrated to shift things. And I wonder why producers are leaving them alone. Yeah, haven't messed with them yet. I think it's the storm of the producers trying to do things and also the islanders doing things. And I don't think they interfere with everything. I think a lot of things really are islander voted so sometimes you'll get

scenarios like ace and Shelly where they're not successfully able to but do you think the vote of the popularity vote with the bottom three do you think that was honest by producers of who the true bottom three were who were the bottom three the girls was Hannah Iris Hannah, Iris, and Amaya, not Huda. Not Huda. And the boys were Jeremiah, Austin, and Pepe, maybe. No, maybe not Pepe. Jeremiah, Austin, and I don't know. I just know Austin should have been the one to go.

I actually do think that that could have been accurate. I think a lot of people voted for Huda because as much as like she, a lot of people are like, get her off the show. It's the same thing that people say like, get her off the show. It's the same thing that people say about like Lisa Rinna. Like get, like fire her, but why? She's making good television and we're all talking about her. At a certain point, sometimes people need to go

because like they're not adding anything real or substantial. But like when you're making that much drama and keeping people interested in the show, I understand why A, producers would want them to stay and B, why people would vote for them because you wanna keep seeing like this train wreck. I mostly think it was producers would want them to stay and B, why people would vote for them because you wanna keep seeing this train wreck. I mostly think it was producers wanting her to stay, which I understand, but I also feel like

they had this big moment with the Hood and Jeremiah and knowing when it's over and now let's move on to the next thing. Jeremiah was gonna go find love and talk to Angel and instead they, I think that they didn't know how to close the book well enough and then they closed it and it's actually the inverse where it's like, she stays and he goes.

He went on biofiles is making like a lot of news. I think he's coming off really well actually, like talking about like his experience there and how what you saw was really what happened and that he's just like a very like level headed person it seems like and it's not, and which I didn't think that he's just like a very like level-headed person it seems like and it's not and which I don't I didn't think that he was Really doing anything so bad. I think he was just like caught up in a bad situation Me neither and people were like throwing around I mean it was mostly huda

But I've seen other people say like he was love bombing her and first of all, that's such an overused term in my opinion I do think it's possible that maybe he was doing something like that in the beginning and I've honestly just forgotten it because it was Totally overshadowed by like everything that happened after that I do think it's possible that maybe he was doing something like that in the beginning and I've honestly just forgotten it because it was totally Overshadowed by like everything that happened after that But like can we stop saying people are love bombing when they're just like being affectionate towards someone on love Island No Literally on love Island and also I feel like then you start to categorize like then you start to overuse it to everything that's like Affectionate or overly affection is love bombing and But it's like, no, affection and overt affection

are good things. So now they're getting dumped into this bucket of bad. It's a bad thing. Right, and I do think there probably are people in the world who love bomb. And then it's like, well, the term, it's the same with gaslight. It's like, there are people who actually gaslight people.

And I even hate saying that word now because I'm like, I really mean it. Not the way everybody means it. No, but even people who like moderately gaslight, it's not a total gaslighting. It's a negative thing. So like you're making it more negative than it is, but like it's not good.

But like love is a good thing. Yeah. So like, so you, you want to do less of that? Like it's just, there is clear love bombing. I think being excited about someone and being all in on one person when you first meet them is a good thing most of the time. Me too.

So we'll see what happens next. What's starting to frustrate me about the show is it feels like there are like an hour, 15 minute episodes and like the first 45 minutes there are the islanders like vulgaring around the villa. Vulgar, what word is that? It's like Yiddish like for like, just like- Traipsing?

No, like slaying, like, Yiddish doesn't ever translate. Let me try and find- But that's one I haven't heard, so I have to know. Vulgar Yiddish definition. Vulgar. Like lazing around, just sitting around? Yeah, like you could be standing too. Oh no, they think I'm saying vulgar.

Oh, that's the other thing about Yiddish is it's sometimes hard to look up the word. It's so hard. It's been passed down through your family and everybody like says something different now. No, and also Yiddish is like pre-dates, like there's no real like written history. Right.

And there's no like textbook of, there might be some, but like, it's definitely not like digitized. It can only be like orally passed down. Like I can't, Google can't tell me what vulgar means better than I could try and tell you, but it just means like, you know, fucking around. Little bit, little bit of like fucking around the villa.

So they're vulgaring and it's very boring. They're obviously bored. They just, and then they only perk up when they get a text, but it could also mean like that. That somebody's leaving. Somebody's leaving. Why don't they use the pool? Have you noticed that?

In seasons past, they're definitely in the pool. I feel like it has to do with mics and with like them not wanting to like be like wet. I'm also surprised that the girls are still wearing heels. No, that's so weird to me. I understand doing it in the beginning. It's part of the shtick and you want to look like you're absolute best. I could also surprised that the girls are still wearing heels. No, that's so weird to me. I understand doing it in the beginning, it's part of the shtick, and you wanna look like your absolute best.

I can never do that, like the bikini and the heels. But they still do it. But I feel like wearing a bikini and heels, like you don't look your best. Like you look silly in a bikini and heels. Yeah, it is silly. Yeah, it's so crazy to me, the commitment to the heels. Yeah, especially because like they're also on camera without makeup

and in their bedtime wear. So I don't understand that part of the commitment. And I actually do think the women who ultimately take the heels off and just let their hair down a little bit are the most successful ones because they're having a good time. The audience can tell they're having a good time. It's the commitment to always needing to be hot

100% of the time. You wanna strike the balance of being hot. That being on walk in like in a bikini and heels But like we're vulgaring on the pool all day Like it's not going to be bikini and heels Right so then the first like three quarters of the episode are really like boring everyone having boring conversations I think i'll sound so for a chat like seriously like they're falling asleep I'm falling asleep and then it's like boom text and it's like just blowing up the villa And now they drag out the ceremony of whatever it is.

And then we end up with two random unnecessary people going home. That's literally every episode now. It's not fun to watch. I'm having fun right now. There hasn't been a single recoupling where the women. That's what I say. Oh, there hasn't been a single normal recoupling

since Bella left. And there hasn't been a single recoupling where the women choose from a man at the fire pit. Not one. So I don't know what they're they're doing but they're doing something. No they're I'm I'm really not happy about it. Like I'm not having fun but I I do see this as like part of my job and I'm crushing it you know like crushing work. And there's not a lot we were just talking there's not a lot of celebrity stories this time of year because every publicist goes on vacation. Yeah, I was saying because Liz can attest this I was talking to Claudia on Patreon

she's like I feel like I've missed so much in stories. I'm like actually no you've missed a lot of TV recap but as far as like celeb news there's not been like amazing news and you had you just said that of your own accord right now when we were picking stories like the stories are like this month even on for your own Instagram like it's not been poppin. Yeah, Love Island has taken up like most of my content Like the stories are like this month, even on for your own Instagram, like it's not been popping. Yeah, Love Island has taken up like most of my content. And it's fun because even when the show is like kind of dreadful to watch, like going on Twitter

and seeing all of the edits and like everything that everyone's doing. People are so, as much as I like rail on the internet for being so stupid sometimes, they also can be so clever and smart. And it's like, that's the good part of the internet I like to harness. Do you see like all these PSAs from Love Island

about like not hating on people on the internet? There's a kind of a couple of theories about where that comes from. You could say it comes from like the goodness of their heart. I don't think so. It's like a liability thing. They have to say it or else who knows. Are things getting really nasty?

I've not seen, like I've seen people being like snarky and but then, you know, I saw Ariana do like a PSA, no doxxing, no this. I haven't seen like, but why would I see stuff like that? I'm not like deep in it, but is that happening? Well, I do like a PSA, no doxxing, no this. I haven't seen, like, but why would I see stuff like that? I'm not like deep in it, but is that happening? I didn't know that was happening. Well, I occupy like a specific corner of the internet that's a lot of Jews.

So a lot of Jews think that Elan is getting a lot of hate, which he is from my perspective, but like, has that broadened enough for like the Love Island producers to see that? I'm not sure. Oh, you thought it's in defense of Elan? I kind of just assumed it was in defense of Huda, like everyone just like saying stuff about her,

but that kind of ended. Like it's over, like the time for that is over. Also though, like Love Island does have a sordid history with online bullying. Because didn't the original host of Love Island UK was she committed suicide. And I think a lot of it was like she got so much hate. And I think there was actually another contestant maybe on Love Island UK who,

I don't know what happened, but it's come up before where even when they do those challenges where they read the mean tweets, I think they've had to scale that back. Because as much as we love watching it as the audience, because these people don't know what we're saying, Huda not knowing what we're saying is so frustrating, but I could see why like reading those is legitimately devastating. Yeah, it seems like they don't care much about the Islander's mental health while they're

in the villa, they're worried about what they're gonna see when they go on social media, and they just wanna let you know like you're seriously running like a psychological experiment in there and like you guys could dial it down. How about that? How about stop sending home like everyone's best friends and loves of their lives. Yeah.

At a moment's notice when they think they're doing the thing that they signed up to do. Right. Punishing people for doing what the show is for. Yeah. Yeah. I'm with you. Like you made them all cry.

Like I didn't do that. The stuff about Elan, like I wanna talk about it because he is Jewish. Like there's been no sign that he was in the IDF, which by the way, like if he was born in Israel and an Israeli citizen, like you're in the IDF because it's a compulsory army. So people who use that as like, I can't, but he literally wasn't like he's a Jew from Toronto and he has a Hebrew name, but, and he went to Israel like once based on his Instagram.

And so everyone was like, well, he was in the IDF. Like, so it's crazy. And that's part of it. No, that is really crazy. Everyone, when they talk about Ilan, he was in the IDF. So it's crazy. And that's part of it. No, that is really crazy. Everyone, when they talk about Ilan, they're like, the Zionist in the IDF. And it's like, he wasn't even in the IDF. Even if he was, you guys aren't ready for that conversation. But so he wasn't.

So he's just a Jew and you hate him. Yeah. So look in the mirror. Yeah, look inward. And he's my favorite. And not even just because he's, I don't even like, I don't want to see too much about the people. I don't look at their because he's, I don't even like, I don't wanna see too much about the people. I don't look at their Instagrams really.

I'm like, honestly, I don't wanna see like what you were doing and like what you were trying to be before, I don't wanna- Or who you handed your Instagram over to when you came on the show. Oh, that's the worst. The people who have people running their Instagram and they're like, everyone vote for, like, stop it.

It's weird. Although I didn't love that he like immediately started talking about Libra's. Like that's just like a kind of conversation I don't personally relate to, but he's a sweetheart. I don't have anything bad to say. Yeah, and him and Sierra relating. I don't need to know everyone's horoscope in the villa That's another one along with fruit and what are you what's important to you? Like keep these like we have to have these conversations every time someone new comes in like right now the idea of a new bombshell coming

Into the villa like it's so dreadful to me Yeah, it is. Like to go through all this again. The bombshells also who come in after Casa, I always feel like fail. I don't even know why. They just do it to shake things up, but I think it's sort of they shouldn't.

Yeah, but now it's like, this is just a show of new people coming in every day. There's nothing, there's no cup. There is not one couple, especially with Nick gone for now, Alandria gone for now. Then the only couple left would be like Ace and Shelly-ish. He seems into Coco and I don't know what would happen there,

but maybe he's just doing it for their big storyline, to show how they overcame temptation to be together. I'm kind of like holding out space for Iris. I really like her. I like her too. I liked her in TJ, although I don't know how I feel about him right now. I just liked that she was being saved, like that really like her. I liked her in TJ, although like I don't, I'm not, I don't know how I feel about her right now. I just like liked that she was being saved by some, like that someone liked her. Yeah. And she just seems pretty normal to me. Yeah. And that she like, isn't it, you know,

possibly to like grow her following, but also she just like seems to carry on a conversation well. And she's just seems like a girly. So I like her. I like her too. I'm rooting for her. Yeah. She's with, who's the guy that she's with now? Probably a Zach. Probably you'd be right. I think so, because we did like Chris, JB, Elan. So then it's like Zach Zach. Zach K, Zach C. Which I like that they say that because it's not like Zach Cohen.

It's like Zach, he spells it with a K. Zach with a C, Zach with a K. Yeah, and I actually like Zach with a K. He's the one with all the tattoos. Did you see the video? I posted a video of like, he was on some show and he was like mugging. Like he was one of those models who would like talk

and then when he was finished talking, he'd be like, so yeah, I like him. And I actually liked that he was like apologetic when he- He didn't need to. He didn't need to be. And I thought like, I mean, Elandria was very emotional in the moment but her like lashing out at him for a second being like,

I don't wanna talk to you. Like he didn't do anything wrong. He didn't do anything wrong. But he just seemed, I was surprised by how, like you said, kind of wholesome those boys were. Yeah, no, and they seem like catches. Like a lot of them are professional athletes or former professional athletes

and working men and handsome and tall. Yeah. I love to see it. Yeah, me too. So that's your Love Island recap for today. We'll be back tomorrow discussing tonight's episode and we'll see what the fact they've got planned for us tonight.

Lizard P, where can everyone follow you and keep up with all things sliz? It's at Liz P Woods on Instagram. That's like my only place that's where I put everything and I am so excited to get to do this again tomorrow. Like I'm thrilled. Yeah, so like if there was anything that you wanted to say that you forgot

or if people like wanted questions for you that I didn't ask, like we get to do it tomorrow and run it back for our final day of Jackson Friends. And tomorrow I'm filming an interview today with someone right after this and it will be in tomorrow's episode. And I don't think you guys are ready for it because like we're not ready for it.

No, but I'm really excited. We're gonna get ready. I love you dearly. We'll see you on the next one. Love ya, bye.