The Toast - Thou Shalt Not Steal: Tuesday, November 22nd, 2022

Episode Date: November 22, 2022

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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to The Toast and happy Tuesday. Hope everyone's having a great day so far. Hey, Jax, how are you, Dern? Dern good. Gearing up for Thanksgiving. We're two sleeps from Thanksgiving, you guys. I hope everyone is making space in their bellies so that their bellies can be full and their smiles can be wide.

I also hope everyone is really acknowledging the space that they're in. I feel like so many times throughout the year I'm like, oh, I wish it was the holiday season. I wish there was Christmas music and Christmas trees and, you know, holiday cheer. And it's actually here. And it goes by so fast. So, like, next thing you know, it's going to be February. There's going to be no, you know, federal holidays coming up. And it's going to be a dark time.

At least February gives us Valentine's Day, which is Spirited, is spirited and president's day march and march is the bitter month and harry's birthday how could you forget and my anniversary right oh speaking of and groundhog's day will the groundhog see his shadow spoiler alert i don't know but i know that it will mean a long winter. Or will our new mayor follow in the footsteps of our first mayor and accidentally kill Punxsutawney Phil? I don't know if he killed him. He dropped him. He altered his life forever.

And so are they all called Punxsutawney Phil? I think they are. It's like a generational thing. It's like you get the name when you're it's like a royal royal you got thank you for bringing that up i got my gift box yesterday from buckingham palace and you guys if you are a royal girly like me you have to treat yourself to some gifts speaking of harry's birthday jackie asked me how i'm doing how are you doing you know i'm doing better because I told you this last night and when I woke up, it was, you know, still very much going on. We are in the process of going viral

on TikTok, but not in the way that we had hoped. We're getting some backlash, you said. We're getting some backlash on what I thought was such a funny clip about Miss Rach. Miss Rachel, as for those who don't know, is, you know, the YouTuber changing lives. She's changed the lives of members of our own family. That's how we know Michaela loves Miss Rach. She learned so many new words from Miss Rach, new songs. So we were talking about her yesterday on the toast about how, you know, Miss Rach has going through like a little bit of a scandal kind of, kind of, because she told her audience that she received like a very upsetting email and that people, you know so hurtful and it was just a reminder to be kind

and what we said and which is what we clipped on um on our instagram and our tiktok was that you know it's unacceptable for miss rach to be getting hate you know if miss rach is getting hate what has the world come to we must protect miss rach and then we were joking around about how miss rach like needs to get a thicker skin because like it's one email girly like you know get over it um I thought it was funny like we were obviously joking we obviously respect Miss Rach that's why we like know who she is I don't even have kids like we respect but the mamas just have descended would you like for me to read some of the comments to you please they're not kind you shared some last night I didn't agree with the take but everyone's entitled to their opinion.

And then also the other half of what we said was like, that makes us feel a little better. Like if Miss Rach gets hate, then like you could really be perfect and you'll still get hate. So here's the top comment. Okay, but the difference here is Miss Rach is actually a precious angel.

Ooh, that one, that bites. Yeah, meaning we're not, we deserve hate. That's what she said. That one has teeth. Yeah, and like we're not, we deserve hate. That's what she said. That one has teeth. Yeah. And this is pretty much whatever I'm saying. Like this is giving passive aggressive mean girl vibes. Okay.

Okay, sure. Here's the thing. Sure. Sure. Like not everyone is going to be nice all the time. And we're just going to be honest. And that's how it made us feel. If that's called mean girl vibes, then sure.

MGV. No, and also. MGv here here's the thing i'm totally okay with like people not agreeing with things we say on the podcast because you know we live in a free country and thankfully that's a privilege that we have um but what i get annoyed at is when people get mad at us for things we didn't say we didn't say we want miss rach to get hate and everyone's like not you encouraging hate. We never said that. We actually said. No, literally not us encouraging.

Yeah, not us. No, people are like, not you guys being happy that Miss Rach is getting hate. Literally, I'm not happy. Did I say that? So if you're going to be mad, be mad at the things that I said. But just because you're negative and toxic and you are inferring things things from this like that's on you my friend that's on you yes now I need to call us out because oh we just like miss Rach got one email and she made a whole thing about it like we got one tiktok real comments section that didn't go our way and

it wasn't one comment there's like there's like 400 comments section but we've posted a million tiktoks of and people love it they lap it up just like miss rage and i talk about it all the time and just like miss rage and then we got one comment section that didn't go our way and we're talking about it just like miss rage well here's the thing i'm not complaining i just thought like you should know i thought like the toast universe should know like we are getting dragged. We're getting dragged. I'm totally cool with that.

I think, you know, controversy raises all ships. Controversial tides raise all ships. And if that's really what they're saying, like if that's the controversy, like cool. Oh, and it was people who have like never, you know, heard of our podcast because it's just like not for them and we're reaching new audiences no brunette girl needs to stop talking over redhead girl brunette girl does need to stop talking over redhead girl brunette girl does it's so it's so funny last yesterday I put together the audio and the video

for the show because you were freezing at the studio and it's like I don't know when you're supposed to be speaking and me because you're speaking over I have to find instances where you're done speaking and I come in that's why it's so important that I edit the video and audio every day because I know like when my annoying ass chimes in and I know when to time it up right you know got it um so that's just like a little digital news about us, you know, extra, extra real about it. I did want to ask, because you know, the people who have descended upon our comment section,

it's the mama community. And for me, like, of course they're going to hate me. But like, you are a part of that community. Do you feel like in a way you're letting down your community? No, I feel like they let me down. Like, mamas like chill out. But I don't feel like they let me down. Like, mamas, like, chill out. But I don't feel like, that's not the, I mean, you read the comments and you just read them to me.

I wasn't getting the vibe that they were from mamas. I was getting the vibe that they were from, like, zillennials who were just like, you can't like anything about hatred that she's getting. No, it was the mamas community because they're all, like, commenting at each other. Like, yeah, like, mamas coming together. No, it was the mama's community because they're all like commenting at each other. Like, yeah, like mama's coming together. No, I don't like that. It was the mama's community. So I respect the mama's community.

So I extend an old branch to you. But you know what? I feel like this is a good lesson. Like not all mamas are the same. And that's like, you shouldn't expect that they're going to be and that they're all going to like the same things. Like we're all still different.

We were different before. Yes, we have this mama-ing trait in common. But it's not to be expected that like all mamas are going to be toasters or this or that. If only. If only we'd be raising a generation of queens and kings. Exactly. So we actually have a fabulous show because yesterday there was like some crazy news that came out we've got the Chrisley sentencing which I have so many thoughts on um and just lots of

good stories so is there anything else you want to catch up on I didn't really do much yesterday besides freeze my nipples off and you and I actually recorded a really fun interview for a panel coming up with Taylor Strecker that we'll share I think it's coming out in a few weeks yeah so that was fun just talking about like business tings business tings it was nice like state of the union to like reflect on our business you know the decisions that we've made consciously the things that have happened sort of by a happy accident it was fun it was really nice and just getting to spend more time with you is a dream oh and I feel like I got a lot I feel like I spoke a lot which was new for me

you know oh my god you're such a victim sometimes like you're fine you know what I'm doing tonight no like what are you doing remember I told you about that show I wanted to see that was like uh titanic retelling using all Celine music. But like the time I was supposed to go, like one person in the theater got COVID and they shut down the whole thing. I'm finally going again tonight. That's so exciting. Everyone keeps tagging me in this Titanic museum

that has popped up in the city. And it's like a recreation of the Titanic, like the rooms, everything. I want to try and go. Would you be interested in going to make you happy yeah well I don't need to like trust me on the list of things I'm not desperate to do dragging you to a museum that you're not interested in is probably number one I can't imagine more torture would it be the week that you're here in December it would be the week that

I'm there yeah that week doesn't work for me I'm filming my comedy special is booking up like oh we have photo shoots we have video shoots it's the tpg awards we're doing a spritz party like I honestly what party December 9th are you still here yeah okay you're gonna have to come and you're gonna like it you'll eat it I'll tell you all about it and you'll like it you'll like it yeah I got these chocolates from buckingham palace in my gift box already no i only had one it was so delicious i felt like mistrunchable because how were the biscuits i didn't have a biscuit yet because i wasn't having a tea and i already tried a chocolate so i didn't want to go through all my sweet treats but i felt like mistrunchable like much too good for children and i like too good they come in like those little things where each chocolate has a little paper around it you know like um oh that's so mistrustful it was

so mistrustful and I'm like giving them to some people not to other people like not taking one by none for sensing someone's in your home you know yes um also speaking of movie quotes yesterday I did find the person in our comment section who was the first to comment where this quote was from. That's the way you should feel your whole life. It was Paper Towns, Cara Delevingne's famous line. I never even saw the movie. She just said it in the trailer and I thought it was like such a weird thing to say.

I Venmo'd her. We should go watch the trailer and like see if it's as crazy. No, because we have like, we've LARPed it. That's the way you should feel your whole life. Like that's definitely not how she said it. But I Venmoed the toaster. She sent me the money back and I sent it back again. Bitch, keep it.

She finally kept it. And then we were like commenting to each other like on the venmo um like transaction yeah and she wrote the funniest movie reference but i can't remember it hold on oh how do i find it venmo's the worst platform we were like commenting back and other Towards one each other like Check your email Do you get an email? No

She was being so funny And she quoted like such a niche movie reference That was like something we would do in our family How the fuck do I find it? Like Alright whatever how the fuck do I find it like all right whatever I found it two comments what is it oh she said okay I'll keep it begrudgingly but I'll leave you with another niche reference frittataata. Oh, that's good.

So good, right? Mm-hmm. Now, if you know what that's from, leave it in the comments of this YouTube video. Double or nothing. And I will Venmo the... Double or nothing. 20 bucks to the...

This is like a dangerous precedent to set. 20 bucks to the person who knows what Fretata is from. First person to comment it and leave your Venmo username. $20 to you. Where should they be the first person to comment it? I think on. On YouTube. But what about podcast listeners?

Who podcast goes up first and they comment on our Instagram? Well, that's what they get for not supporting our YouTube dreams. Would you rather them watch on YouTube or listen as a podcast and help us climb the charts? It's the same to me. Yeah. So why can't they comment on the Instagram? Because like. Then it's just like so many platforms. We don't know who actually did it first.

So it's a YouTube game. YouTube. It's a YouTube game. Okay. And maybe we'll hit 200,000 subscribers while we do it. Yeah, for sure. So we've got a great show. I'm ready to dive in, Jax, if you are. I am. Did you notice I'm wearing your necklace today? No, I didn't. Come closer.

Stunning. Stunning. no I didn't come closer stunning so stunning I wore it the day after my birthday but that was the day that my camera had an astigmatism so I feel like people didn't really get to see it I'm gonna come a little closer because it's like it's truly stunning so beautiful little necklace ASMR oh okay these microphones don't pick up ASMR I feel like they got mine Necklace ASMR. Oh, okay. These microphones don't pick up ASMR. I feel like they got mine. I feel like they got it too. Okay.

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and their granddaughter chloe who was 10 he said his wife should not be punished to the same extent julie was emotional as she described a conversation with chloe who is the daughter of their estranged son kyle the chrisley's former accountant, Peter Tarantino, was also sentenced to 36 months in prison on Monday. Tarantino was set to report to prison on May 1st after undergoing hip surgery. The couple's sentencing had been delayed from October 26th to yesterday

after their lawyer claimed a witness lied on the stand. Prior to the sentencing, federal prosecutors requested the judge sentence Todd to between 17 and 22 years and Julie to 10 and 13 so the sentences were actually a little lower than recommended they are also asking that the pair forfeit nearly 20 million dollars according to court documents obtained by WAGA I mean this is so crazy of course like I can't even talk about this without thinking about what this means for Jen Shah, even though she's being tried in New York

and they were tried in Georgia. But it's clear that like, you know, financial crimes from like people of a certain celebrity like are not taken lightly because this is still, even though it's less than the recommended sentence, it's a really like it's a harsh sentence for like a nonviolent crime. Yes.

Also, Jen Shah defrauded people. The Chris Leeds defrauded the government. They also defrauded banks. So like, what they did, which was so crazy, is obviously like the usual mail fraud,

tax evasion. But they also were like creating false documents to give to banks in order to procure loans. Being like, we make this amount of money so you can give us

five million dollars in loans. False collateral almost. Right. They would take that loan. You don't have to pay taxes on a loan and they would just live off of that loan so I don't know like what the fuck they thought they were doing but like it's illegal and there are consequences but like I just wasn't expecting that yeah that's a big whopper of a sentence I don't think any celebrity case should be tried any differently than a lay person case whether it's harsher or more lenient, I think.

Right. They do often like make examples out of celebrities. I don't know that that needs to happen either. I don't know that that's what happened here because they got less than what the prosecutors were recommending, which is typically what happens, I think. But I feel like there are people who like rape and don't even get that many years.

Am I wrong? That's a good point. Like it's, it's a terrible crime. Don't get me wrong. Like you should not steal. It's thou shalt not steal. Right. But when you compare it to the sentences of like people who like actually commit violent

crimes, like armed robbery, I feel like I never even, like I'm always surprised when I hear that's what, like a life sentence is technically 25 years. Right. Yeah. So how is tax evasion and everything 11? That's a really interesting point. Yeah. And I'm not saying like there shouldn't be consequences for your actions like they definitely knew what they were doing was totally illegal. And then to go on TV is a level of stupid. I just cannot relate to and I'll never understand why people do that. What do you think came first? Do you think they were on TV is a level of stupid. I just cannot relate to. And I'll never understand why people do that. What do you think came first? Do you think they were on TV and they needed to keep up this lifestyle?

Or they were being fraudulent way before they were on TV? And at that point. I'm sure it's in the documents. I mean, they were living like even like a more fancy lifestyle before they were on TV. Because when we season one, they were in this big old house and they had a million cars. And then as the seasons progressed. Like they moved into a smaller house. It's almost like they downsized a little bit.

Well also their kids grew up. Could have been like a smaller house. That was like nicer and more updated. And in a better part of town. Swanky. Right. It's just. I mean.

Do not fuck with the federal government in Georgia. Like this is. I was just. I was really shocked by the length. Yeah. Especially because like my bar thus far for things like this is Teresa and Joe and Teresa having to go for like what was it like two years a year a year and a half and then Joe having to go for three um plus the detention center for um ice like that's my bar and that was so crazy to me yeah also like the situation is a good,

Mike, the situation is a- Yes, good example as well. So when you compare it to that, yes, this sentence does seem outsized, especially when you also compare it to violent crimes. Violent crimes. So I mean like, it's kind of sad, no?

I mean, but like they did that shit, but like it is like someone's parents like go to jail for so long. Like you think about like Savannah's what, like 21 in the next 10, 11 years, like she'll have kids. Like it,

like it is sad when you think about it from that perspective. And it does seem like a harsh sentence, but like don't break the law, you know? Yeah. No, now I'm like,

it's like I pay my taxes at the end of the year. I'm like checking, doubting my eyes, crossing my T's. I'm like, one of my biggest fears is like accidentally tax evading. Yes, but I feel like there are people who accidentally tax evade where it could either happen accidentally or like it's a, you know, I'll pay it. You know, like situation sort of thing. And like the sentence was smaller for that. Like, I think that what they were doing was so intentional. Then also the lying to the banks. Like it's not something that that could ever happen by accident. You have to go out of your way. Yeah. I mean, I actually wrote about this in my book, how like when I

first started making money on the internet, I guess in 2017, I underreported my taxes, my income. I wasn't entirely sure how much money I made and I didn't have like a proper like team in place. And then like years later, because the IRS is like so backdated, I got like a crazy letter that scared the shit out, I thought I was going to jail. Like I was so scared for like,

you underreported and it took us two years to figure it out. So it was two years of penalties. And I was like so happy to not be going to jail. I paid the whole thing in full. I'm like, yes, sir. It's right here. Thank you so much. Have a great day.

Yeah. Influencers doing their taxes is an interesting subject. I feel like there'll be a documentary. Well, not even, I mean, maybe there are people who are trying to get away with funny business. But if you're an influencer and like you're doing like freelance work for different brands and you have a lot of different like streams of income, like even if it's like not even streams, just like places that pay you, it's really hard to organize your stuff for taxes. So you really have to be on top of it.

So if any of you are influencers in any way, shape or form, aspiring influencers, like big or small, make sure that you have your tax situation figured out because it can really get away from you. Right. Like the second you start making money, like invest in a good accountant or like a business manager. It's worth your, it's worth every penny. Yeah. An accountant should do it right up. You send them all your 1099s and everything and they'll help you sort it out. So that's our tip of the day for all the aspiring influencers. Or just small business owners business owners you want to start any side hustle like get your paperwork together first because it's a lot it's it'll be a bigger headache down the road if you just like push it

off yes but like a small business owner has like the one business income and it's a little more clear cut on how to do your taxes streamlined but when you are a I guess any sort of contractor who has a lot of different people paying you. Definitely keep your antennas up. No, like this. Let this also be a cautionary tale to anyone who gets like caught up in like, you know, fame and money. Like it's not worth it. No, none of it.

You're on top for three years and then you spend 11 in jail. None of it matters. None of it matters. Nothing matters because at the end of the day, you're alone with yourself in your jail cell. Right. So would you rather be in a jail cell or in a house that was like smaller than the one that you had dreamed of? Right. Right. And maybe for some people like that's the the peak is worth the pick. That's a risk they're willing to take. Right. No. Not me. Can't relate. One of my biggest fears. No, probably my biggest fear, period, is going to jail.

You're not cut out. Oh, no. I don't know, but. I don't know. I would definitely start like a musical theater. You would. Like an acapella group. I think you also get a lot of time to read.

But I can't have a Kindle, right? I have to go paper. You have to go paper, but I think they have a library,. I get, but I can't have a Kindle, right? I have to go paper. You have to go paper, but I think they have a library. So. Yeah, but they don't have like. No, you wouldn't be able to read Coho all day long, but you'd have to branch out into other genres. Yeah, I also would like probably start working out

because there's literally nothing else to do. You'd get like shredded. Well, it depends what kind of prison I'm going to. Like the one Teresa went to like was very much like, it was still prison, but it was like a retreat like you had like an hour of internet time working out so yeah but like I'm talking about like the prisons like from from like the movies like lawlessness recklessness like there's no redemption right or that episode of SVU that literally scarred me when I was a kid when Mariska Hargitay went undercover with Ice-T and Ice-T was getting a flu shot.

So he was waiting in line and not able to help Mariska when the guard they were investigating for sexual assault assaulted Mariska. That episode changed, like literally changed the DNA of who I am. Yeah. Is that one of my stories? Yeah, it's not not one of them. to the list you know it is totally like one of those stories let's see what what's going on with Claudia's lists and see if anything needs any updating yeah well I definitely think we can add the Mariska Hargitay episode. Claudia's repeated stories. Okay, so. Dennis's funeral. Dennis's funeral.

Kenan's Uber drivers. Yes! Tarek's armed hike. I'll never stop talking about it. Law and order jail episode. Uh-huh. Food shot. Iced tea. Mariska.

Great. And do you want to know your regrets or no i could tell you them uh not getting in the cop car yep you have five others five so many regrets more what else the yeezus jacket oh that's a major regret for me. Not going to the Life of Pablo concert. You know what? We can take that one off now. Yeah, fuck Kanye. All the trouble he's gotten me into.

Like, first the Confederate flag. Then a red Taylor Swift concert. Huge. Starting the TMT Facebook group. Huge. And not having Taylor Strecker at your wedding huge yeah that's beautiful okay don't you like that I have this list going for you I love because you're like you know my memory is not what it used to be I'm responsible for your memory you are literally like the secretary of

my memory of your brain you're filing all, like you're in charge of the filing cabinets. You know what I'm doing? Out running your memory feels like out running the wind. Can't get where I'm going if I can't leave where you've been. Stunning.

Thank you. Are you ready for our next story? Am I ready for our next story? That's such a good question. I am. Great. Because Dancing with the Stars season 31, wow, that's a lot of damn seasons, has ended and our winner has been crowned.

Spoiler alert, the winner is... Charli D'Amelio. Now, let me tell you how genuinely shocked I am that the classically trained dancer with hundreds of millions of followers and a reality show on the same platform as Dancing with the Stars, the fact that she won is so crazy to me. I mean, what a, what an, you know. It's a triumph. An upset.

It's an upset. Yeah. It's, I'm shocked. Well, it's really beautiful because I feel like it shows anyone that anyone can do anything if you are exactly. No matter how little experience you have. No, anyone can do anything if you are the exact right person for the role in every way, shape, and form. What confuses me about Dancing with the Stars, because I definitely feel like it's not really 100% based on the votes,

is like by this logic, wouldn't Jojo Siwa have won? So Jojo Siwa, I mean, you know her on TikTok where she is extremely popular. But to me, she doesn't have the same popularity as Charli D'Amelio. And I haven't seen Jojo Siwa dance. Like to me, Jojo Siwa doesn't dance. She just like jumps around. No, she's like, she's like a very, she was very good too. Okay.

But Charli D'Amelio, I was watching one of her final dances and i was reminded of how on the d'amelio show like she has a ballet studio in her house and she's like training as a dancer it's so now watch like realizing this i'm like i should have put money on who was going to win dancing with the stars because it's so fucking obvious not only is she just as good a dancer as the pros really but she's the most famous kid in the world no totally but I feel like every year there's like one clear person who like probably is going to win and more often than not they don't yeah but it's never been this clear we've never had someone who is a perfect dancer and a 10 out of 10 millions of followers most followed person on hundreds of millions

most followed person on the platforms. Yeah. No. I agree. And then. The Hulu connection. And a network darling. Yeah.

The Hulu connection. So this was the first season that. Dancing with the Stars was on a streamer and not on cable. And I definitely feel like it. It affected like the. It showed. The publicity of it. Like I feel like no one was talking about it.

I agree. I would only like. Except what I thought. When people were voted off. People who I follow on Instagram are voted off that's the only time right like Vinny Guadagnino James Decker oh she was on the season she made pretty far I think um well Shangela made it pretty far I think she was the first drag queen ever on um Dancing with the Stars she made it to top. So she was in the episode last night. And for their final dance, her partner came out in drag. It was really cute and funny. That's so cute. The top four were Gabby from The Bachelorette,

Shangela, Wayne Brady, and Charli D'Amelio. Yeah, so Charli. Charli. Charli. Charli. Charli. Are you thinking what i'm thinking what are you thinking what i'm thinking yes of course we can't say no it's like it's like old school inside family joke you guys want to care but like yeah simpatico um i'm happy for churls and i just like i'm like okay i can't believe it's actually pretty cool for Dancing with the

Stars that she was on the show you know so every couple of years they actually get someone who's not like on their way down yeah yeah even Shangela Shangela's at the top of her game and what's so cool Even Shangela. Shangela's at the top of her game. And what's so cool about Shangela is that if you watched her season of the show, like she got out in the beginning and she was like pretty unremarkable in terms of her memory. But she had like these iconic moments that like became so much a part of drag herstory that she like never even won. But she's like literally one of the most famous queens from the show. Welcome to the place like shangela that's like that reminds me of like the bachelor i feel like there are so many people like that who like yes we're unremarkable on their season but are

so big in like the canon of bachelor yeah i don't mean unremarkable because she's like funny and everything in the story but she got out early and she there's a million girls like her and we don't we don't know her name she's on that hbo with Eureka and Bob the Drag Queen we're here she gets like unbelievable she's on Dancing with the Stars no when I tell you she was on the show it reminds me of American Idol like Jennifer Hudson on American Idol like so many people who were on it yeah didn't go very far but have these huge careers now yeah like 10 years ago made it through four or five episodes is the biggest drag queen in the world now.

Like it makes no sense. Yeah. Also reminds me of like America's Next Top Model. Some of the people who have come up for the show like who became pretty famous. I would love to rewatch

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about Lizzie Sivetsky's departure from the Real Housewives of New York. They are recounting the story in full, so I'm going to share as well. I just want to say, after we had spoken about this, I did a little digging because I'm nosy and I really wanted to know what happened. And I did find out from a few people who like would know I found out the exact same

story so I believe that this is yes there's a lot of detail too okay so um at the time and the headline is a little misleading it makes it seem like Lizzie's out here slinging the n-word but she's not headline this headline is Lizzie Sivetsky actually left Rahoney after a behind the scenes controversy when she first left they talked about she talked about in the statement talked about how you know she was experiencing anti-semitism headline yesterday um it's the headline hold on it's the headline on the art they might have changed it but it also might they did there might be a different headline like when you on the home page You know how sometimes they do that? Yeah, but I literally. Lizzie Sivetsky actually left Roni after hubby's N-word controversy.

That's not it anymore. So page six. I'm just gonna read the whole thing. So everyone just story time. Buckle up. So page six reported last week and they said, while we'd heard there was more to the story, production insiders downplayed other drama beyond the online bullying.

Now it turns out that, in fact, things went off the rails big time a few weeks ago while Sivetsky was filming a scene with co-star Bryn Whitfield and got worse from there. Page Six is told that Whitfield had asked Orthodox Jew Sivetsky, who has a reputation as a matchmaker, if she'd set her up with a Jewish man. But Sivetsky said that while she has no problem with Jews dating Gentiles, she prefers only to set up Jews with other Jews, sources said.

She added that Orthodox Jews favor marriages between Jews to preserve the ethnic lineage. We're told that she explained that Judaism is not just a belief system, but also a people. Sources say that Whitfield felt affronted and said something to the effect that Sivetsky's terminology sounded like that was used, quote,

by horrific people, meaning Nazis, who did evil things to your people, would take, which shocked Lizzie. According to- Yeah, clearly. And that's what we had last week. Yes. According to multiple insiders,

the tension caused by the scene led to an off-camera phone call between lizzie and brin during which they discussed the power of racial slurs page six was told that brin who was half black used the n-word during the call but rather than using the term n-word she said the word it represents in full we're told she said the whole thing she said the word outright page six was told that savetsky got the impression that Brynn planned to tell other cast members that Sivetsky had also used the N-word during the call.

Sources say that Lizzie's husband, Dr. Ira Sivetsky, was outraged and reported the alleged incident to the show's producers. But Page Six was told that when he recounted the call, Ira also said the actual word rather than saying the n-word yeah uh page six heard he later apologized but the damage was done and they're told that's when conversations began about the pair exiting the show insiders were keen to point out that lizzie really did also experience an overwhelming overwhelming value of anti-semitism online and that the n-word incident alone was not the sole reason for her leaving that Lizzie really did also experience an overwhelming value of antisemitism online

and that the N-word incident alone was not the sole reason for her leaving the show. Yeah, I mean, so now everyone is being like, well, she put out this statement about antisemitism. She was using it as a front. And like, let's not go there because honestly, I'm sure she, like when she was dealing with this controversy

and then the shitstorm she probably had in her DMs was I it certainly was a part of it and I don't feel like we should discount that because I feel like that's right no and if you want to see the anti-Semitism just go to any of like the Bravo Instagram accounts where they announced that Lizzie was going to be a cast member when they announced that Lizzie was leaving and just read the comments like that we know we don't have to like be privy to her dms to know what she saw right um but this incident is so bizarre to me i mean so first off i believe that this is what happened because like this level of detail like i don't think that they they are conjuring it up out of nowhere like and this i think is something that would happen and then get like, you know, kind of blown up in the,

in the production Bravo sphere and enough to like make Lizzie either leave or, or be fired. Right. Also, um, this just goes to show you like, it never ends well when husbands get involved like this,

like leave this to the women because I'm sure Lizzie like wants to kill her husband right now. Like he was doing it. I don't think he has any bad intentions. I don't think he frequently uses racial slurs I don't think that's fair assessment to make but in this one mistake in this heated moment because he wanted to defend his wife and wanted to make sure a cast member who clearly just has she clearly just doesn't like Lizzie um doesn't you know go around saying really defamatory things about his wife he slipped up and made a mistake um it it changed the whole game because you can't just go around saying that even if he meant it he was not like a malicious intent he was just he wasn't calling someone the slur he was repeating

what he had heard I get it you still can't say it but like it's very different than going up to someone and using it as a slur. It's very different. Having said that, I just think, you know, husbands should stay out of things because like they just don't know how this works, you know? Yeah. Yeah. The whole, I mean, I think, I imagine for Lizzie, like it was just like a compounding of things.

And I think the idea that one, now that her husband said this and then she was on the call and Brynn was going to say that maybe that Lizzie had said it, it was like, you know, between this, we don't need this and we don't need the anti-Semitism that we're getting and like we have kids and forget it. This isn't worth it. No, and I'm sure she was freaking out if she had a phone call with a girl she's arguing with and her takeaway from the phone call is that she's going to tell people that Lizzie

used the N-word. Like that's such a terrible thing for people to think about you I'm sure her and her husband were freaking the fuck out yeah and they ran to production so that they could get ahead of it and they made it right like how and they made it worse right and it seems like they made they made it worse for themselves and then production didn't really probably help at all um so they either I don't know if she was fired or if she left on her own but the show is turning out to be term like i feel like they can't like this roni reboot is like cursed yeah i don't know what will be i don't know if any of this footage is going to be used

i feel like it's actually like a really kind of murky area that they probably will stay away from usually it's like if they have footage, like we have to see it. But I don't know if they want to be associated. This is supposed to be a show about like rich women being rich. And that's what happened with the last. Not Nazis and racial slurs. That's what happened with last Roni too, where they didn't even have a reunion because there was allegations of racism that were investigated. And then they didn't even deal.

They didn't even go there again. And they said, you know what? Goodbye to all all of you we're bringing in new people yeah I don't think that this is what they want to be happening again so I don't know how they'll handle it it definitely doesn't bode well for the new season I also have to say so Andy has like spoken about Lizzie's departure a couple times I saw a video um Hollywood Life he sat down with Ali who um I know I love her she's just like a red-headed Jewish queen she asked about the Lizzie Sibetsky stuff and I think it was before this report came out for yes so he was just talking about how she left and there was anti-semitism and it's bad and it's sad and it was so weird to me because he was like you know

she experienced a lot of anti-semitism he was like I know I posted something about Judaism and the backlash like the comments that I got were insane and like so horrifying and it's just a sad state that we live in it's like no it's like no it's ingenuous you are Jewish no no but you are bravo and it's like if your fans are creating an anti-semitic environment that's just a sad state no Andy I feel like and I love Andy and I've had to come to this realization like in a sad way I feel like in terms of like Jewish leaders in our community like Andy has been such a letdown for me like always and forever like I mean I think his I think his mere presence as like a Jew who's like funny and gay and well-loved, I think it's great.

And he incorporates like Mazel. Like, I think he's a great representative for us. But when it comes to being like an advocate for our community, I have felt like time and time again, he is always letting me down. And that interview, before we knew about the situation, it was just like Lizzie leaving from anti-Semitism, was so disingenuous. I felt like he couldn't have fucking cared less I was so let down and that's just like the vibe I never I know

certain Jewish celebrities like are always going to be there for our community to like speak up and I know Andy will never and it's like he'll do the bare minimum like a tweet and it just feels so disingenuous I don't think he the way that I feel is like, he doesn't feel connected to the community at all. And it's like, if he were the advocate that we need and like, okay, so Lizzie came on and she's getting all this anti-Semitism, anti-Zionism and he's seeing that instead of just like being like, it's a sad state, Twitter is a cesspool,

like bring on some more Jews, some more Zionists and like double down, not like be like, oh, and so Lizzie couldn't do it because our audience is just too anti-Semitic which is just so sad no it's so true like he's really time after time like he's such a letdown like I feel like it's really upsetting I feel like people might be like and and him being a disappointment is a separate conversation I feel like people might be like well maybe he knew about this situation and just was like saying, maybe. So then he could have said like, oh, well, there's like other things that happen that are the reason.

By the way, I'm not even I don't want to use this Hollywood Life interview. That's I have always felt I've always felt this way. But I feel like if it if maybe that's the reason why he gave nothing in that interview, he could have been like, well, there was some stuff that happened off camera as well that viewers might see that led to Lizzie's departure. Just more, you know, instead of being like, anti-Semitism, man. She couldn't do it. Oh, it's the worst. Couldn't let her on the show. What's the next question?

Like, I find that I'm constantly like reminding myself that Andy Cohen's Jewish, which is really never good, like a good place to be. Because if I forget, that means you're like never talking about it you know we've had this conversation before I think on the show and like we disagree because you're like he's not a great you know champion for the Jewish people but it's great that he's like showing Jewish culture like mazel and a lot of the verbiage and he's just Jewish and that's good yeah and I I think it's the opposite like I feel like if you're gonna use all of our stuff as your shtick, like you better be there for us when it matters. So if you don't want to stick up for us, then like just don't do all the rest of it. No, I see that, too.

But I still I still believe what I said, because like when you think of such a wide reach of of Bravo and like so many people who have like never even met a Jew and have this like idea of what Judaism is in their heads just to see like this like funny, successful, like, I don't know. I do think part of it is good. I mean, I don't like just go all in or or just be like everyone else who's like a. Yeah. A Jew in name only. Yeah. No, it's definitely upsetting upsetting i thought that interview was really weird really weird just is what it is you know our anti-semitic fan base would not accept lizzie and

sad and therefore she left our next story is so exciting on so many levels that I can't begin to tell you. Okay, let's go. Brandy will be reprising her role as Cinderella in a new Descendants sequel. Yeah, it just keeps getting better. So Brandy, who famously played Cinderella in Roger and Hammerstein's Cinderella, announced that she's reprising her role as the iconic character for the upcoming Disney Plus movie called The Pocket Watch. She said, so excited to join this amazing cast and reprise my role as Cinderella in the Disney

Descendants sequel, The Pocket Watch. So The Pocket Watch is a spinoff to the Descendants trilogy, which, you know, I love so much. It's Sinich and I's favorite movies. And it's back in the Descendants world in Auradon. And here is the premise for all of the mamas who had been forced to watch this movie and found themselves really liking it. The movie follows the story. The movie musical follows the story of Red, who was played by Kylie Cantrell. She's the rebellious teenage daughter of the Queen of Hearts.

That's the premise of Descendants. It's evil uh characters kids like grown up so she their daughters their daughters and their sons she's the teenage daughter of the queen of hearts who's played by rita aura and oh wow her friend chloe who's played by malia baker and she is the naive daughter of cinderella and prince charming cinderella played by branny so it's perfect and also in the original Descendants movies, you know, it was like Dove Cameron, Sophia Carson, Cameron Boyce, and Jay.

I forget who the actor is. And their parents, so like Cameron's a descendant of Maleficent, who is played by Kristen Chenoweth. It's pretty star-studded. Sophia Carson's a descendant of Evil Queen, who's played by Kathy Naj najimy kathy najimy i fucking love kathy cameron boyce was a descendant of cruella i forget who played her and then um jay was the descendant of jafar so it's like the parents are always like pretty big actors so it's like awesome that it's Rita Ora and it's Brandy and Brandy's and then the descendants are like gonna be like the new

big Disney stars the Dove Camerons yes very cool I love that like we are officially like Brandy is the Cinderella of our generation when you said Brandy like my mind I was Brandy Glanville I'm like what she's playing Cinderella that is so is so funny oh jay was played by boo boo stewart who's also in twilight oh i know and he like loves jacob and he's like keeps following jacob around he's team jacob yeah seth seth seth seth um but wait what was i gonna say about this really quickly oh just like a fun fact about brandy that I feel like nobody remembers. It's like her brother is Ray J. I think everyone remembers.

I don't think that they do. Sound off in the comments. Do you remember? Do you remember? So I will be watching this movie. I'll be forcing Counselor Snitch to hang out with me to watch it. By the way, I like how you were like to all the other mamas who know about this movie because they're forced to watch it with their kids and had to, you know, actually ended

up enjoying it. Like that's not, you watched the movie when you, before your kids. Right. I wasn't talking to myself. I was talking to, I got so many messages from people when I would like watch Descendants and post on my stories. They're like, oh my God, this movie is so good. I watched it with my kid and it's actually so good.

I haven't seen any of them. They're so good. The music is so good. It's Kenny Ortega. So you know it's slap it's a quality protection the concept is so good no I actually am not against seeing it but speaking of like not me wearing a Dutton Ranch shirt today when I've literally never seen one minute of Yellowstone alert no I'm such a poser wow but the the member which is cool remember back in the day when like calling someone a poser was like the meanest thing you could say about now it's called a bandwagon fan you know now like now that i'm an honest adult like yeah i am a poser you know

her family that poses her family that poses she fuck family that poses. She fucks everyone in New York. Her family that poses. That was a really good reference. Does that mean that they're always taking pictures or that they're posers? I think she means like they're fake. They're posers is what she said. Like they're always just posing. Like they're never just like being real.

Yeah. Interesting. Her family that poses. Anyways, I'm so glad to share that descendants news with you guys I feel like we all needed to know it and I'm happy for Brandy that she'll be still Cinderella once again she'll be reprising this iconic role um if only Whitney Houston was alive to yeah but they should get the guy who played Prince Charming to play Prince Charming like that I know because he never really got anywhere no so he should be available he's free

our fifth and final story is a follow-up to something we were talking about yesterday kendall jenner and devin booker are no longer together the former couple who started dating in 2020 quietly broke up last month according to people a source said both have incredibly busy schedules right now with their careers, and they've decided to make that a priority. Sure. So everyone is like quaking because she was at the concert, and then Olivia and Harry broke up.

And now that her and Devin have broken up, like obviously all three things are connected. But I'm kind of feeling like now that like I'm actually feeling like maybe they're not together because it's like a little too obvious. Like what Kendall would literally release her breakup like two days after Harry and Olivia. I don't think they're together. I don't think it's connected.

But what I know now is Kendall is single and Harry is single. So from here, where do we go? And maybe she put this statement out today so that Harry could see that she's single because he might have just assumed she was still dating Devin. So, you know, Girl Boss Town, she does like PR predictions

and whenever people break up, she's always like guessing. And she actually had a really good guess for who Harry Styles would date. Who? Cammy Marone. Leonardo DiCaprio's ex-boyfriend, ex--girlfriend so like they're both just out of like really serious a-list relationships cammy marone is like friendly with hailey and kendall so she like runs in that crew she literally looks like a girl like harry would love

um and what was the last thing she had like really good reasoning for it and like i could totally see it i don't see it. He's going to date someone just like Olivia Wilde. That was, is very unexpected. Now this Kendall being single at the same time that Harry single is definitely convincing me of what you were saying yesterday, that like they should get back together. They could, and that they're meant to be. I still, I think that they might like try again, but I think that it won't work out

because they're too similar. But I would absolutely love to be wrong more than anything I've actually thought about um them two together because we had a really interesting conversation yesterday about like their personalities and stuff um and the more I think about it like the more I actually think like Harry like does not like Kendall like on a personality level like I'm sure he likes her as a friend but like I I actually I don't find them to be even remotely compatible okay that's just what I think I I feel that and that might just be like my like jealousy um like seeping in because like I know Harry would love my personality yeah I wonder what he's looking for in someone's personality I feel like he likes a serious woman and like I also wonder what he's looking for period like is he looking to get married not

immediately but I I imagine he likes being in a relationship I'm just going based on like what I've learned from him and Olivia Wilde I think he likes a serious woman I think he likes a woman with a mind of her own and I think he likes a little kind of like a bossy older woman sort of thing I think he likes being taken care of I don't know if we can make grand statements like that because he's dated a million girls before Olivia Wilde and like she was so different like who for a long period of time like yeah he dated a bunch of girls and it didn't work out after five minutes because they're not the one that he was on. No. So he has like a few like long relationships that honestly, I don't know who the girls are because like I see them on TikTok and they're always talking about like, I think one of their names is Cammie or something.

Camille, Camille, Camille. There's a Camille who like a lot of the first album is about, but it was like very low key relationships. Olivia Wilde was far and away like the most public relationship of his but I don't know if that's because like she was the most famous girl he dated or he was the most famous yet. Let me get my list out. Oh my God of eligibles.

Maybe there's someone here for me. Oh yeah add them both but also add them both. But there might be someone on the list. Okay. Also add Cammy Marone to the list. And Leo. Well no Leo and Gigi. Yeah Cammy Marone to the list eligible and leo well no leo and gg cammy marone and

kendall jenner now we go to harry styles wow the list is getting really long oh i had rocky on it but it's cuffing i need to take off rocky he got back together yeah him and his wife got back together okay harry styles and chloe k. No. Obsessed. I actually think, though, personality-wise, Khloe and Harry are a better match than Kendall and Harry. Okay. Lori Harvey. Kind of obsessed. Kind of obsessed.

A flow is here. Damn, this is a small town. Harry Styles. I have it. Harry Styles. I have it. Harry Styles and Kim. They don't really do that, though, like the sisters. They don't date people that the other sisters have dated. No, they don't, but I think Kim is a better choice than Khloe

just because I think she's... Well, you're comparing it only to Olivia Wilde, and I don't think that's fair because I don't know... Kim is Olivia Wilde. Like, no. They're similar girlboss. Kim is hise. And I don't think that's fair because I don't know. Like, no. They're similar girl boss. Kim is his dream girl. I don't think so, actually.

He hangs out with Kendall to get closer to Kim. And you know what? He said, why didn't you bring Kim to my concert? From a physical perspective, like his type is all the same. It's like literally model, tall, no boob, like tiny girl. Giselle. Perfect. Literally perfect, by the way. Yeah. Olivia girl. Giselle. Perfect. Literally perfect, by the way.

Yeah. Olivia Jade. I wouldn't be surprised. Oh my God. I wouldn't be surprised if she found herself in Harry's house. But I think you can take her off the list. I think you can take her off the list. Like she is really with Jacob Elordi.

Okay, he's also on the list. I don't want to have to. I would take them both off. Both off. Should I take off Aza Gonzalez and Jason Momoa too? No, I haven't heard about them in a while. I feel like they could have fizzled.

No, I think that's good news that we didn't hear anything. Yeah, no. Goodbye. I'm happy. I'm always happy when someone comes off the list. Me too,

because we're sending them hopefully onto a really beautiful ship. But there are some people who I feel like are going to be here for a long time like who Josh Groban um yeah but I feel like Josh Groban probably dates a lot but like we don't hear about it because it's like industry people or like nobody I feel like he could just go on an app as Josh G

and no one I think he could do I think he could go on the bachelor as josh g is chris evans needing someone to be just report that yes a normie a normie okay goodbye chris actually i'll leave him there just in case goodbye you need to prove yourself yeah you were bigger than the whole sky i love that song so me too sad I love it what was the story we were reporting on Harry oh Kendall and Kendall oh you could put Devin Booker on the list too um I actually felt like for a while like that was Kendall's like dream like end I thought that like they were definitely OTP I thought they were really similar and they started to look alike in my brain so when couples start to look like that's how you know that, like, they were definitely OTP. I thought they were really similar. And they started to look alike in my brain. So when couples start to look alike, that's how you know they're, like, soulmates.

Yeah. They were together for a really long time in a private way. And so private. And so that was, like, a real relationship. It was a movie that felt like a real movie. Real movie. Yeah. So that was sad.

But the possibilities now are endless. It's really a great time to be young and in Hollywood. It always is. I feel. It always is, I feel. It always is. Oh, so true. So those are the past five. And, you know, we're two for two this week with stunning stories.

Let's hope today turns out some more sentencing, some more this, some more that, breakups, makeups, so that tomorrow's episode, which is our final episode of the week before Thanksgiving, is just as juicy as today's and yesterday's. I think it will be. So that's our show. Anything you want to say to the peeps before we wrap up? Oh, I've got a busy day, so I'll keep you abreast on my IG. Me too. Come out.

Make sure you're listening to tomorrow's episode to see how my Broadway show is, Titanic, the Titanic experience. Can't wait for the updates. Thank you guys so much for listening to The Toast, The Millennial Morning Show, where we deliver the fast five stories that you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching this on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. We're also available as a podcast anywhere podcasts can be found. So that's Spotify, iTunes, Stitcher, Public Radio, iHeartRadio, CastBox, all the places. So wherever you listen to podcasts, find us, The Toast, and leave a

five-star review about how wickedly talented we are. Hope you guys have an ink-ray-ob Tuesday, and we'll see you tomorrow for hump day. Goodbye. Bye. Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye. You were bigger than the whole sky.