The Toast - To Mix Or Not To Mix: Wednesday, February 8th, 2023

Episode Date: February 8, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, millennials, and welcome back to the toast. Happy Wednesday. It is hump day and episode nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, plus it's hump day. Plus we've got the stride guys and no, you're not confused. You're not. There was a switcheroo. There was.
Starting point is 00:00:18 I have thrice. You do. Claudia has Bryce. I do. It's just kind of the way that the chips fell. And we're always saying it's so important kind of the way that the chips fell. And we're always saying it's so important to let the chips fall where they may. You know?
Starting point is 00:00:32 And this is how they fell today. And I think it's always great to keep things fresh and exciting. And let the chips. And let the strice ends fall where they may. You know what chips is making me think? Lunch. Lunch. You know what I hadn't thought?
Starting point is 00:00:45 It hadn't entered my brain yet, but now you're going to make me so hungry. It's never like not in my brain, you know? Yeah. Just that we should start thinking about what we want to have for lunch today, you know? Yeah, like if you have any ideas, just like shout them out. I will. I definitely, I definitely will. Even though you barely ate your lunch yesterday. It was gross. It was gross, but you were also like
Starting point is 00:01:02 not even hungry anymore. It was gross, because we had mac and cheese. Because we ate Harry's mac and cheese it was so good harry has the best food oh you wouldn't that's the only thing of harry's yeah actually sometimes i look at harry's plate i'm like this is child abuse like hummus like salmon paste it's so organic and disgusting like honestly justice for harry but then he gets mac and cheese you know once i saw he i opened the fridge and then you know today i saw saw a big stock pile of schnitzel, some breaded chicken. I could have that for lunch.
Starting point is 00:01:29 And I thought, is that for Harry? Is that for me? Because there's no way Harry can eat all of that before it goes bad. It's still for 40. It's a gallon bag, like a Ziploc bag full of schnitzel. There must be 25 pieces in there.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Yeah, no, it's for you and Harry. He'll have some schnitzel for lunch. And I think that's our lunch plan. I mean, I did have schnitzel for lunch and I think that's our lunch plan I mean I did have schnitzel for dinner and it gave me diarrhea so I'll just have to be cautious maybe your schnitzel is
Starting point is 00:01:50 different maybe hopefully is it gonna stop me no no let's talk about today we've got really like bottom of the barrel crap so the stories actually like in themselves aren't that bad but like it took us a really long time to source them and you know if it were a different day some of these stories would not have made the cut they're crap okay we're just setting expectations but i find that those make the best episodes and it's wednesday so we have three toasters in dire straits in need of our help so it sounds like it's gonna be like a pretty stunning episode a wickedly talented one if i do say so myself for 9.99 it better be you would hope that we've learned the trade yeah like it's going to be like a pretty stunning episode. A wickedly talented one, if I do say so myself. For $9.99, it better be.
Starting point is 00:02:27 You would hope that we've learned the trade. Yeah, so it's $9.99 tomorrow. That means is our 1,000th episode. And I can't wait to, you know, take care of myself on my 1,000th episode. Yeah, we're really excited for this really big milestone. Oh, and some of you guys might know this already but we also did a patreon episode yesterday it's a video and audio podcast episode if you're bored today and you need more content patreon.com slash toast we're doing one of our
Starting point is 00:02:55 favorite installments where we just endlessly complain about the dumb moronic shit our spouses do we had a lot of really good submissions from people that really people submitted what their husband does and then we all sort of like commiserated really you know we just all talk about our personal experience every once in a while we're like that's not that bad right or I have no experience with that yeah that's rare though and then I'm grateful yeah and then so you're feeling on the one hand like really bitter and then you also come away feeling a little grateful it's kind of therapeutic so if you're looking for some sort of outlet today I highly recommend tuning into that episode on our patreon yeah and there's video and it's just really fun and then I actually did
Starting point is 00:03:29 three podcasts yesterday podcast podcast podcast it'll be out next week I'm just gonna tell you guys do it why not what was the first one the toast the second one patreon the third one good guys you guys I'm a good girl and i'm going on good guys i heard that the good guys were not ready for the good girl that came in i don't think they were ready for me i think they were expecting a little girl but then they got a good girl yeah i don't think they were ready for me but like josh and i were talking a lot about like parenthood and really the joys of it because i feel like these days it's like cool to like trash your kids yeah which i i feel like first and i said this on the show i feel like for so long you know you didn't talk about the like
Starting point is 00:04:07 hard parts hard parts of paranoid you're just like it's a joy yeah it's a blessing so it's nice that people like finally are being honest yeah and you know like things that were taboo are no longer taboo but I do feel like the pendulum has swung a little far where it's like we kind of now only talk about the torture. Yeah. And we've forgotten a lot of the joy. The joy. Well, that sounds beautiful. It was really beautiful.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Jackie, that's beautiful. And Josh was like sharing tips and tricks for like dads, how they can really step up to the plate. Oh, that's nice. And not be just like these useless oafs that they are capable of being. No, by the way, and coming off the heels of recording episode number two for you, which was, you know, how men are useless. Right. That must have been really refreshing to hear.
Starting point is 00:04:50 And I hope Ben absorbs some of it. And I really understood why they are the good guys. They are the good guys. Yeah, no, Ben is ready whenever you are. And I said, of course you are. You don't have to do anything. I literally, at dinner last night with the Shapiros, I was like, if Ben could carry these children, we would have sex. Right. Like, these children we would have sex right like no no no all of a sudden he wouldn't be so ready
Starting point is 00:05:08 right all of a sudden he wouldn't be so ready i'm not feeling ready right right right bitch i'm like you carry you do the breastfeeding like you get fat hunt i will support you. I'm ready when you are. I'm ready. I take your time, sweetheart. Yeah, sure. Sure. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I feel better.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Yeah. Yeah. Shut up. So that sounds like an exciting day. I read the dumbest book. It was called Scandalize. You need to stop reading dumb. No, because with my book club now I'm like you get one smart a month right so in between I'm like reading dumb shit fine fine
Starting point is 00:05:50 like if you're gonna meet read the midnight library next which is which is up next for me which is thought provoking and I had to read read scandalized before yeah you needed an amuse bouche I amuse in my bouche and after I read like a dumb smut book I'm like I really should be doing better things with my time and then it's like I'm primed and ready for my book club book. Okay. It's kind of like an amazing system I have here. I gave the book two stars. Great.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Like it was bad. I go. It's a great cycle. That's really bad. I know. It was just like short and it wasn't bad, but like it had quite literally no substance and like not even good smut. It was like, it was giving PG-13.
Starting point is 00:06:21 It's like. How dare. I didn't open up this Kindle for PG-13. And who recommended it? I don't want to drag her, but it was from a recommendation giving pg-13 it's like how dare i didn't open up this kindle for pg-13 and who recommended it i don't want to drag her but it was from a recommendation posted on instagram by one of our queens liz height oh shit i thought it was the snitch no but the snitch sent me the screenshot from liz heights but in liz's defense it was just she'd gathered from her audience she didn't read it herself it's so scary to do that so many times i'll do like these q and a's like tell me what vibe you're looking for in a book and I will, I will give you a recommendation.
Starting point is 00:06:47 And there are so many times when it's like, here's a book that I know is that vibe. I just haven't read it yet, but I will not recommend a book that I haven't read. And I was actually getting to a place where it's like, you know what? I think I actually might just like start throwing in books I haven't read. But after this experience you've had, maybe I won't. Well, let me tell you how I'm constantly recommending books to people that I haven't read, but that you've read. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:07:08 And I've said good things. Yeah, no. And I just like lie and pretend like I'm really smart. That's fine. I would recommend a book to someone that you've read. Like I always recommend Things We Never In Which To Get Over. Things We Never In Which To Get Over. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:17 By Lucy Score, even though I don't want to read it. But do you lie like I do? No, I say Claudia Margo love this book. It's like their favorite smut book of the year. Yeah. It's going viral. Like if that's what you're looking for you should where's the sequel you should read that sequel you know i lie and i'm like oh my god this book was like amazing but so you and with the crawdads like i'm always talking about like i read the book just because i saw the
Starting point is 00:07:38 movie yeah well crawdads is something you should recommend to like anyone who's a reader that's like a real reader that's not me no no but like anyone who's a reader that's like a real reader. That's not me. No, no. But like maybe some of your friends. Yeah, perhaps. So I'm excited to get into it today. Anything else we need to discuss? We still haven't really kind of finalized plans for our thousandth episode.
Starting point is 00:07:58 We've got a lot of good recommendations, but nothing I was really like dying to do. Some cute stuff. Yeah. I just want to get like emotional, you know? Yeah. There was some cute stuff. Wait, I saw something that was like palatable yeah a lot of people said you know reflecting on our first episode a lot of people said reflecting on like our favorite moments our favorite stories and be like do you know my memory I know I know it's so
Starting point is 00:08:17 hard for us I don't have the capacity once the show wraps the second we say goodbye goodbye everything we just said has left my brain i think that's how i process you know oh this is what i liked toast trivia where we each come up with a set of questions from previous episodes as a fun way to remember like what was your like you know something like this would be a really easy one like how did i describe the squishy girl who does the both sides yeah yeah okay okay that's cute you could put something together for me i could put something together for you okay maybe like five and five okay i feel like that's cute that's cute or what was i wearing on the day jackie choked oh that's not the show oh right that's not my plate this is not my plate or like what did you wear when derrick
Starting point is 00:09:01 peth came on this show my wedding wedding dress. Well, just the veil. And it's some ugly Topshop shirt. Yeah. Topshop shirt. Topshop shirt. And then like, what about like, who's your least favorite guest? Oh, you know what? People always ask me that.
Starting point is 00:09:15 And I don't really have an answer. But the other day I remembered my answer. I do. And I wasn't afraid to say it. But now I can't remember. Or is she afraid? No, no. Because really, like, we don't have that many
Starting point is 00:09:25 guests that like there's like if someone's coming on so many over the years we probably have had 100 guests yeah there was someone I remembered it the other day shit it'll come to me I'll tell you guys I wasn't it was something that I was like oh yeah I could share that like either I beef with this person I don't know where it's like they just were bad and they're a good person but like this wasn't the format for them yeah I think actually that happens a lot because we're so niche pop culture like we want to have people on and they want to come on but if they don't do pop culture well that's different for hosting yeah that's something I actually experience ran into a little bit when I was casting for your maternity leave there were so many people that wanted to come on they're like I don't do pop culture and like at first I was like okay but
Starting point is 00:10:06 then I was like you gotta you gotta you gotta so no hard feelings but like no yeah I understand um so that's it for me okay we'll keep thinking about ideas but I think mostly it's again just gonna be a lot of sitting and reflecting um looking forward and looking back and then being able to call it like our thousandth episode and then being able to call it like our 1,000th episode and then being able to go around and say, oh, we've done 1,000 episodes. What have you done? You know, what did you do today?
Starting point is 00:10:30 Because I recorded my 1,000th episode of my podcast, The Toast. And then on Friday we'll be like, oh, and I recorded 1,001. God willing. You know what's so sad? Is that on Friday. We won't be together. We won't be together. And that's really hard i'm being asked
Starting point is 00:10:46 to leave i just i have guests my house is for the last two weeks been like a revolving door nice kind of like a b&b and i do make breakfast on the weekend you do okay you made breakfast once twice bitch twice i made the the spread when my friends were here and then i made your ass chocolate chip muffins. She did. She did. And I made eggs and hash browns. She did. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm really glad that you remembered that. No, no, I did. I ate another one of the muffins yesterday. How could I forget? They're the muffins I keep on giving. They're so good. They actually get better with time.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Okay, that's dramatic. No, they really do. Wow, thanks. They get like- Firmer. No. Not bouncy, but like- Spongy?
Starting point is 00:11:23 Spongy. Spongy. Oh, God. Yeah yeah so i'm being asked to leave tomorrow and tomorrow i will leave oh that's tomorrow yeah that's sad yeah i do you're only a day away tomorrow tomorrow i love you tomorrow you're only a day away. I feel like that was really pleasant. What do you think? Pleasant. I think that's the perfect word. Like it wasn't painful. It wasn't incredible. No, but you hit the notes. I hit the notes.
Starting point is 00:12:22 The vocal fry was at a minimum. The notes were hit. The fry was minim was at a minimum the notes were hit the fry was minimized it was pleasant i think for tomorrow's show it should be just in the face of everyone who says like if you guys don't stop singing you're gonna lose listeners like it's so annoying we should sing the whole show that really works for me yeah latter i'd love to sing are you ready to get into the rest of the show only if we can sing for the rest of the show i don't know if i can do the ads while i sing because then they'll be 10 minutes long and they'll say that's not what we paid for but you could write a jingle i feel like we're constantly writing jingles for brands.
Starting point is 00:13:06 That's like a fun fact about if you buy an ad on the show, like you might just get a free jingle. Yeah, that's what we in the industry call added value. Yeah. We're just like adding value to what you're paying us to do. It's kind of gorgeous. We're really like increasing our value in the market. And in these tough economic times,
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Starting point is 00:17:19 Quote, everyone was sleeping around. Is that GMA? That's GMA. Okay. That's TJ and Amy. multiple former employees say there is a quote rampant culture of sex at abc news after ousted gma3 co-anchors tj holmes and amy roback's marriage and career torpedoing torpedoing affair made headlines late last year it was revealed that holmes allegedly engaged in at least three other workplace romances, two of which were with junior staffers. Yikes. One of those junior staffers spoke names, uh, alias Sasha. So she's saying
Starting point is 00:17:52 anonymous. Spoke to the cut anonymously for an expose published Tuesday, confirming what a well placed source implied in an interview with page six last month that Holmes and Sasha, a then associate producer in her mid twenties would have sex in his office. Our source described Holmes as being in a position of power over her, but Sasha told the cut. She didn't even think about the power dynamics at the time because the network's nightly program on which they both worked was a pretty scandalous place. Though she'd heard rumors that certain women had been promoted after having
Starting point is 00:18:19 affairs with executives. She said she was left heartbroken and feeling like a throwaway object when Holmes, who apparently had shown a crazy amount of interest in her initially left the overnight show to focus on GMA her feelings were amplified after news of his other affairs broke it was just a pattern she admitted to the outlet adding that she thought she was special additionally Sasha claimed that the executives are more protective of the company's reputation than they are of their staffers yeah no it's funny how TJ Holmes was fired, not for this, but for having an affair
Starting point is 00:18:47 with someone who's of age and can consent and that's like equal power. No, these like tawdry affairs with young staffers, we're fine with that. Yeah, and this rampant culture of sex that apparently everybody knows about, that just like is, and that's also like the kind of culture that-
Starting point is 00:19:00 Matt Lauer. That we like, the media is rallying against right no it's it honestly it's like with the matt lauer thing when we all found out we were like what the fuck with the button under his desk and people were like no if you worked there like you knew like he was crazy like young girls were like told not to go near him like so everyone knows nobody talks about it and it's like they're all also advocating against this everybody also acts shocked right when things come out but if you work there you're like you're lying and i just think it's so funny how like gm not funny but like
Starting point is 00:19:30 moronic how gma like released so many statements about this affair with amy and like made a whole thing about it made an example of him doing an investigation but it's like all these other things are going on and they're never investigating any of that and that's like something worthy worthy of investigating his relationship with amy is like the least interesting thing about him. But do you know what people would call it? Irrelevant? Performative. Of course.
Starting point is 00:19:50 That's exactly what people call it because it's exactly what it is. Yeah. Mnemonic. Matt Lauer was NBC, right? Yes. Like this isn't like an ABC problem. It's like a media problem.
Starting point is 00:20:00 It's like, yeah, a media problem and like a newsroom problem. Yeah. Where everyone's just like getting sexy. No, and like I could see how like, you know, late nights, early mornings, traveling, like, it can, and that's fine, but not when, you know, one person is, like, much older in a position of power with, like, a junior staffer who's just, like, doing her rest. Yeah, and also not when it's going to lead to either promotions or firings if you're
Starting point is 00:20:22 having an affair. Right. But if it's two consenting adults.-huh on the same level yeah but it's like the the rules for you know inter-office relationships have become so strict ever since like me too era where it's like you know what someone higher and someone lower like could a date or have a relationship and it's like in certain instances they're like a little too strict where it's like what about a budding romance but it's like but stuff like this goes on stuff like this happens yeah and it's like but why can't those two people who like actually are in a relationship like just be together even though like one's technically the boss you know like those hr
Starting point is 00:20:56 rules are meant to implement like and protect people but the people like the the predators almost like they don't care about your hr rules you know yeah so you're only affecting like the the predators almost like they don't care about your hr rules you know yeah so you're only affecting like the good intended people no but it's not even like predators it's just like it's almost like an over correction yeah problem that is like still rampant and it's like the only people who are like following the rules are people who would be like in a relationship and like want to do things right but they can can't be. And then everyone else is like still having sex on the side. Totally. Well, I guess it's for the best then that he wasn't brought back because he seems to be quite problematic.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Yeah, I guess so. And so like we said, maybe that's why they actually fired him. The investigation found more. But what about Amy? Yeah, that ain't right. Right. That's kind of rude. Right. But they're still together, so it's love i guess this is love like the way i felt about the story in the beginning the way i
Starting point is 00:21:52 feel about it now like you you know yeah i just like don't think it's of abc news as like a sexy place no i don't so when you hear there's like a rampant culture of sex. I find it shocking. Yeah. Because I feel like if you work in like early morning or late night news. Like morning breath. Morning breath. But then like, you know, you start. Coffee breath.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Maybe week one you're looking gorgeous. But like eventually just roll out of bed to get to work. Like you have five minutes. Roll out of bed and stumble to the kitchen. Right. Pour yourself a cup of ambition. You're not like, you know, being glamorous. It's like you work at Cosmo and you can roll in at nine.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Yeah. You're up at four. Yeah. So again, I agree. I don't see it as like this kind of beacon of sexiness. Maybe that's just me. You never know. It's going down.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Maybe that's just us. Maybe that's just us because we don't have a rampant culture of sex here at The Toast. I mean, the brethren might disagree. That's true. I mean, we do celebrate hump day quite voraciously. Are we kind of like this sexy business? Do we have a rampant sexual culture here? I'll have to talk to Ben. Why?
Starting point is 00:22:55 Because he's a part of our business, like our culture. No, this is the business culture. The four of us? Yeah. Okay. And I think things are pretty workplace appropriate. Yeah. We make jokes.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Sure. Sure. Is that a crime? No. I mean, honestly, like, thank God that you are my sister. Because like, if you weren't, I wouldn't be able to say half the shit I said. Imagine if you had like a hot male co-host. Co-host.
Starting point is 00:23:18 I would love that. Oh my God. It would be a, I see how these things could happen. It would be a workplace that's rampant with sexual, whatever they said. Culture of sex. Yeah. And sexual happen. It would be a workplace that's rampant with sexual, whatever they said. Culture of sex. Yeah. And sexual tension. That would be me.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Did you see, I don't know why this is segueing to this, they're making a documentary about HQ. I did. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Wrong show, wrong show, wrong show. Oh, thank you so much. I don't care. When people ask me who the worst guest we've ever had on the toast is,
Starting point is 00:23:50 thank you, Jackie. It is Scott Rogowski. He didn't come on the toast. He came on the breath. It still counts. And it was at the peak of HQ, and I never met a bigger dick in my life. Like, he could not be wasting his time with two irrelevant uglies like us. He was on.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Look at us now, Scott. Yeah. He was on his way to stardomom and we were just mere ants under his foot like he was so fucking rude and so condescending and so holier than thou and it was so clear that like everything that was happening was going right to his head yeah and you could tell in the interview because i remember the comments were like whoa we should go back and find that interview he was so fucking rude yeah so he's my least favorite guest and now knowing you know having personal interest in the matter I honestly don't know if I'd believe anything he says in the documentary and I'm so glad you brought this up wait okay I follow this girl on TikTok and she's like pretty
Starting point is 00:24:38 popular she's like here's you know day in the life of as a working actress who's not famous like I she's like I work all the time I do like commercials nobody knows who I am but like I make a living off of being an actor people learn a lot of things about acting industry and sag um and apparently she was the backup co-host I don't remember her like if Scott couldn't do it it was her and then when Scott left she filled in and she made a tiktok being like how can they make a documentary and like literally didn't even ask me to be a part of it so now I'm feeling like literally Scott like champion this documentary. Well, so the trailer for the documentary came out and it focuses on like the founders, Scott, maybe some other people that worked there and the success of the show. And I had like so many thoughts. First, like Scott like starts to say how the founders were,
Starting point is 00:25:18 you know, interested in having a successful company. And then they were maybe a little like jealous that he was the face of their company sure scott sure uh and then they also were like saying how you know from the beginning the sewing like this discord between the founders and how like one founder wanted this and one founder wanted that and then they grow so fast and somebody died and they couldn't like build it fast enough a lot and like if there was beef between the founders like okay that's not why hq flopped like no hq flopped because like that's what happens to flashes in the pan wordle flash and then they burn out wordle yeah like everyone every morning for one week played wordle and now people i play it sometimes like it's not something everyone does it every morning and shares it's like just a game now it's like yeah like any other game that you play on your phone
Starting point is 00:26:04 right and hq like you can only really get people hooked on an app for so long that has so many problems before people stop playing yeah it wasn't even the problems it was just like we played and now we're on to the next big thing like yeah that's how the internet works especially for like small things it's not like it's an app that you could spend your whole day on like it was literally five minutes and then people moved on with their lives. Yeah, no, a documentary I don't think is in order here. No, like they're gonna like expose, you know, and explain why HQ didn't work out. But HQ didn't work out
Starting point is 00:26:33 because it was never going to work out because like when you rise so quickly, like you fall so quickly, that's just it. And it's also just the nature of the game. Yeah. But I am so glad you brought that up because first of all, I don't even know
Starting point is 00:26:45 if I ever would watch this documentary because like literally who cares? No, it's like literally I don't like I don't need to explore like the age
Starting point is 00:26:52 like what one month in pop culture. Right. Like so not that I was like ever in so inclined to watch it, but I can't now because knowing
Starting point is 00:26:59 what I know about Scott, he was so like egotistical and him saying that like the founders were jealous that he became the famous like, well, if they wanted to be the face they would have it's literally they literally could have whipped you to the curb at any minute right and they would have started hosting like question mark it's nice to see that Scott hasn't changed he's literally my nemesis
Starting point is 00:27:16 and he doesn't even know it he was so rude like he made me feel so small physically because he was so tall but like he was just so like oh i hated him yeah i'm gonna go back and find that episode where he was so fucking rude i could have told you yeah i wouldn't stand the test of time yeah i wonder if he's so macho now irrelevant what's he up to check his instagram making a documentary about his five minutes of fame literally tell me you're a narcissist without telling me you're a narcissist well he didn't make the documentary like someone was it honestly let's explore HQ. It seemed like it was honestly directed by Scott Rogowski.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Well, that's because he's the face of it, don't you know? Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Which is really some wonderful podcasting news. Julia Louis-Dreyfus' first podcast will glean life lessons from women over 70. Is she hosting it? She is hosting it. It is called Wiser Than Me and Julia Louis-Dreyfus, who is 62, will have candid and witty conversations
Starting point is 00:28:12 with women over 70, according to podcast network La Manada Media. I like that. Which is producing the show. It will be a 10-part series slated to be released in the spring of 2023, including, you know, notable over 70 women. She said in a statement, Julia Louis, and in our culture, older women are rarely seen or heard. What a shame. We are missing out on the wisdom and experiences of a huge portion of the population. I want to hear from these older women. I want to talk to them. I want to know how they navigate aging and their tips for a life well- how they did it how they do it and everything in between these are the conversations i will explore in my new podcast wiser than me i like
Starting point is 00:28:50 that it's hard to separate yourself as an interviewer as a podcaster especially when you're just like a celebrity and everyone has one so like to kind of niche yourself into like older women i like that and it's true like we don't listen to the to the older generations enough no definitely not like norma especially not older women right when it's like we have everything to learn from them they know everything they know everything i mean that one episode we did with norma kamali like we were obsessed yeah just so much wisdom being shared and i think this is such a great idea i mean the thing the part about like how uh their tips for aging like i'm not really interested and I do find that to be like so maybe they'll find like a different way to talk about it but it's
Starting point is 00:29:30 like aging is a part of a natural part of life and not something that should be like so circumvented you know there's that old saying like yeah getting old is hard but the alternative is worse yeah but I think maybe what she was trying to say is like not dealing with like, here's not like giving tips on like how to, you know, skincare, but like, I think maybe for women, it's like, um, it's emotional. Maybe she means like how to deal with, you know, if your whole life, like your values put on your looks. And then when you start to get older, people start to dismiss you. That's what I'm saying. Like, I think she'll come at it from a different angle. Not like, what do you use? Yeah, use yeah no because that's like it like minimizes women yeah and jld is not like that no she's not like that i hope she has may musk yeah i was trying
Starting point is 00:30:11 to think like who are inspirational women over so here three 70s like a really specific number she has jane fonda oh as one writer isabel allen day and photographer fran liebowitz oh and chef and author ruth ruth reichel i don't know much about fran liebowitz. Oh. And chef and author Ruth Reichel. I don't know much about Fran Lebowitz, but every time I hear- What about the one who's similar? Annie Lebowitz. And I don't really know what-
Starting point is 00:30:32 No, I was looking for Fran. Fran's perfect. Yeah, I don't really know what Fran Lebowitz does or what her spot in our culture is, but every time I read something that she's written or watch an interview of her, I'm obsessed. Author, public speaker, and occasional actor. She is known for her sardonic social commentary
Starting point is 00:30:50 on American life as filtered through her New York City sensibilities. No, she's a queen. Like when you hear her speak, she's like, she's on the money. I wish she could have had Queen Elizabeth on. That would have been beautiful. Would love to hear her tips on aging.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Would love to hear her tips on life. On everything. Yeah, most everything yeah most actually i feel like you know a lot of her experience is not relatable and you know i would love to hear like tips on motherhood yeah balancing you know work and life right even though like i don't know i think not necessarily from queen elizabeth because like she would admit that she put work ahead of life and motherhood like isn't that what charles is always complaining about right classic. Classic Charles. Classic. Did you see they've set a date for his coronation day? It's coronation day. It is.
Starting point is 00:31:31 I'm so excited. When is it? I don't know, but they set a date. Can't wait. It's like in a long time. Can't wait. What is he going to perform? Not even for Charles to be coronated.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Like, I'll be fine. But just like to see the, you know. The band back together again. The band back together. Obviously the Waleses who have been like extra cute recently. I think they've had to step up their game they've also been like extra quiet yeah but like they've been you know like i guess they're they're always super cute but like they're in their matching outfits and like they've been putting out really cute pictures which is like that's their job and that's what they do but i do feel like it's to combat silently combat the negativity negativity yeah um so check this out wiser than me i will i'm actually will
Starting point is 00:32:08 probably tune into the friendly woods episode yeah and she's got to get mangmask i'm sorry yeah how do you raise a boy genius let us know and then like also you know have like a second coming of a career right and be a model right are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Why Adam Devine despised to speak out amid the Adam Levine scandal? He decided to spy. I don't know what I said, so I'm not going to combat you. It was a mouthful. You want to say it again? No.
Starting point is 00:32:37 In the midst of Adam Levine's cheating scandal last September, Adam Devine shared a social media post clarifying that he was not, in fact, the singer at the center of the allegations. As Devine shared a social media post clarifying that he was not in fact the singer at the center of the allegations as Devine recently explained his public quip only came after being a big case of mistaken identity I wouldn't say it's like a big case of my stake and I know I would are you okay there's a lot of words I would say like this is funny but I don't know if people were like actually confusing him I do think like this is what he said Rachel Ray Rachel Roy yeah that was actually like confusing people didn't know who Rachel Roy was so they went to their like first Rachel Ray whereas like Adam Levine is more famous than Adam Devine I'm not always thinking of Adam
Starting point is 00:33:17 Devine when I mean to be thinking of Adam Levine and actually never but this is what he said he went on Call Her Daddy and he said I would never I'm not big in inserting myself into someone else's drama I'm like this guy is already going through it and so I was steering clear respect then he said I was getting so many people that were just DMing me being like how fucking dare you and then you look at their page and I'm like this person does not follow me they have no idea they are not workaholics fans they have not seen my movies they were truly a maroon 5 fan and now hate me on accident. I was legitimately getting hundreds of DMs. Well, that sucks. I know, but like if they're a Maroon 5 fan, how could they be so stupid?
Starting point is 00:33:51 Yeah, no, it's actually mind blowing. This is just a testament to the stupidity of so many people. It's upsetting for sure. So he put out a clarification, a statement addressing that, addressing the, you know, confusion confusion and saying just want to post that me and my wife chloe bridges and i are doing great i'm obsessed by the way i'm not adam levine he's a different guy and a worse singer we are however naming our future baby summoner hold on i have to bless you i'm obsessed with the fact that adam divine is married to donna ladonna from
Starting point is 00:34:22 the carry diaries like i don't know you know what she's up to now but like to me she will always be Donna LaDonna. Austin Butler was in that show too. That show was a moment in time. I cannot recommend people watch it enough. And I love that they got married. She's like so gorgeous and they have like such a nice relationship. Yeah because he seems like a nice funny guy. Every now and then I'll just like go to his Instagram like check out like I don't follow him but just like sometimes he'll cross my mind. And I find that he has such a nice life and I feel like he's a really good husband like actually I really like Adam Devine. Me too. He had a recent comedy special on Netflix and it was actually very good. Yeah we enjoyed it and we were just listening to the Pitch Perfect album.
Starting point is 00:34:55 We were. Because it's a fun thing to listen to with kids. It is. What is that? I've been working for the weekend. No, not anymore. I feel the electricity. It's like, you know how sometimes you're like, I don't know the words to the song, and then they just start coming to you?
Starting point is 00:35:15 Wait. But then that, because I wanted to get, I've got the magic in me. Got the magic in me. Every time I touch that track, it turns into into gold can i ask you a question if you could be a troublemaker or a bard and bella which one would you want it to have been kind of a troublemaker like they were fucking lit and they were popular and they had a hot tub except they all had to like revolve around buster but but but i feel like it was really competitive like you couldn you couldn't get a solo because, like, Buster had it, you know? No, talent rose.
Starting point is 00:35:48 I feel like at the Bard and Bella's, like, they just needed, like, I could have taken control and given myself all the solos because they were so chaotic. Big fish, small pond. Yeah. But it's like, I want to swim with the big fish. Yeah. But back to this call her daddy thing. So the, the announcement for who was going to be this week's guest was really confusing because they intentionally tried to make it look like it was going to be adam levine
Starting point is 00:36:07 yes and then bahati like so she posted this clip that was like it was just alex talking we didn't see who the guest was and she says you know i was she was really serious like nostrils flaring like she was angry and she was like i was you know a really big maroon 5 fan but like how many times did you cheat on your wife and we're like wow like she got adam levine in the hot seat and like he's answering for his sins that's crazy and then people started like poking holes being like wait like they didn't show the thing and she's kind of acting like an actress like she wouldn't actually say that so then people were just guessing who it was going to be then Bahati Prinsloo commented on that teaser being like lol in all caps and it's like
Starting point is 00:36:39 well she's talking about like your husband cheating on you like is that funny um and then it ended up being Adam Devine which I feel like it's kind of like a rude promo like no I didn't get Adam Levine I got Adam Devine you know it's not as good but why did Bahati Prinsloo comment I think to let everyone know because I think before she commented people really thought it was Adam Levine so like to let everyone know like this is not Adam without having to say like this is not Adam right but like she really poked the hole in yeah in the in the people who like really thought it was him I just found the whole thing confusing yeah it was confusing but then Alex posted pretty quickly afterwards that it was Adam Devine I think because it got so confusing yeah yeah okay okay yeah well I actually
Starting point is 00:37:20 really like Adam Devine yeah and so he's not Adam Levine. I have to say, like, if you really are a Moon Pride fan who got confused, like. You're dumb. You're dumb. You're dumb. And you're not okay. Who are two celebrities that, like, you, whether it's, like, the way they look or their names, that you get confused? Oh, there are so many.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Like, Evan Rachel Wood. And Evanescence. No. You know, Evanescence's name is Amy. Evanescence's name is Brand. For me, that's two. No. You know, Evanescence's name is Amy. Evanescence's name is Brand. For me, that's two. No, Evan, Rachel Wood, and Rachel Lee Cook, like three-name girlies, they're the same people to me.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Yeah. And I wouldn't know either of them. Like, I couldn't pick either of them out of a lineup. I'm trying to think. When I was younger, I could not tell apart Sandra Bullock and Julia Roberts. Yeah. No, but I've got them down, Pat. But there are really so many.
Starting point is 00:38:09 I feel like we're always. The Chris's. No, no, no. Don't even. I'm not going there. Okay. We're always talking about people who are the same person. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:16 But I guess they're so unmemorable. Yeah. That is what it is. It is what it is. Are you ready for our next story? If it's the next story, that's brought to you by Jenny Kane. It is. Support for today's episode comes from Jenny Kane.
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Starting point is 00:42:23 The judge dismissed Meghan's motion to avoid testimonies ruling that the Duchess of Sussex quote does not show that unusual circumstances justify the requested stay or that prejudice or an undue burden will result if the court does not impose a stay. Megan does not satisfy the high standard required to stay discovery pending the resolution of a dispositive motion. Samantha had demanded that Meghan and Harry be deposed in separate interviews claiming in court documents that to date the duchess has not agreed to schedule one single deposition. Samantha also requested the depositions of her father Thomas Markle, her daughter Ashley Hale who we are now
Starting point is 00:43:00 familiar with from the documentary. I liked her. Former Royal aide Jason Knopf and online security expert Christopher Buzi. Yikes. Samantha is suing Meghan for defamation based on, quote, demonstrably false and malicious statements made to a worldwide audience during the Oprah Winfrey interview in March 2021. She accused Meghan of orchestrating a campaign to, quote, defame and destroy her and Thomas's reputation and credibility the suit alleged that Megan did so quote in order to preserve and promote the false rags to royalty narrative that she has fabricated about her life to the royal family and
Starting point is 00:43:35 the worldwide media Samantha further claimed that Megan told lies to destroy Samantha's reputation that have subjected her to humiliation shame shame, and hatred on a worldwide scale. Okay. I don't know if they were lies, but I would say she's humiliated and shamed on a worldwide scale. So I feel like, first of all, it is so hard to win a defamation case. It's borderline impossible in America. And look at Johnny Depp. And it's beyond expensive. I mean, Johnny Depp almost went broke from that whole thing.
Starting point is 00:44:02 How is Samantha Markle paying for all this? Most people, even if you have a good case, most people will avoid litigating when it comes to defamation because it's such a long process. It is so expensive. Yeah. I don't know how she's paying for it, but she must really think that she has a case. And I'm sure that she knows that the odds are not in her favor.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Yeah. She's also seeking $75,000 in damages. Queen go bigger. Like, yeah, that's like i mean based like let's say what she's saying is true and that the megan interview whatever based on the scale of the interview the damages would be more yeah that seems like a low amount of damages but like i thought you were gonna say 75 million right I don't know but she really has been smeared like no but she has I will say some of that is her own fault but like a lot of that is her own fault everything that Megan said is true then like we're you know we're just reacting to the truth but like if all of that is not true and this woman has just been like completely
Starting point is 00:45:02 but you know when I see Samantha Markle I'm like oh my god she's crazy I my perception of that is built on like just seeing her non-stop doing interviews but what if it's her like trying to clear her name I know but what did Megan say about her I don't even remember to me the Samantha Markle of it all is the least interesting thing about the whole Oprah like I don't even care because honestly from the second she came out I'm like oh my god this bitch is crazy okay Okay so from this is from 2022 when she filed suit. The defamatory implication is that the plaintiff had no relationship whatsoever with her sister Megan. They were virtual strangers and that plaintiff has created a lucrative career selling false stories to tabloids and television programs
Starting point is 00:45:37 when she knows nothing about the defendant's childhood. Megan did say that like she doesn't know this woman at all why is she coming forward? Samantha goes on to accuse Megan of bashing their father Thomas Markle in an attempt to sell the world of false rags to royalty narrative of her life. Megan quote this is from the statement. Megan falsely claimed that A. She essentially raised herself from virtual poverty. B. She was forced from the age of 13 to work in a series of low-paying jobs to make ends meet. And further accusing Megan of misleading the public regarding Thomas's absence from the wedding I mean you know what's so great about the justice system is we will find out like what bottom of this she wants a trial of by jury oh my god she
Starting point is 00:46:18 is she a lawyer like how I'm I'm to me the most interesting part about all this is like the back end logistics like how was Samantha Markle paying for a legal team? Yeah. Especially a legal team that's skilled enough and big enough to go up against Harry and Megan who have kind of unlimited resources. Yeah. Well, maybe it's not like a big bad legal team, but maybe the law is on their side or so they feel.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Yeah. You know, it'll be interesting. I will keep up with this. This case. Yeah. Hopefully it'll be televised. It'll probably take a while. Hopefully it'll be televised. It'll probably take a while. Hopefully it'll be televised.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Oh my gosh. Probably not though. Why? For whatever reason, because things are different. Is it Florida? Is that what it said? The state of Florida?
Starting point is 00:46:54 It's in Florida, but like the same reason that, oh no, Amber and Johnny's was. It was. But that was because Virginia, it's based on the state, I believe. But it's like, say there's like two lay people who are like.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Yeah, but no one's bringing a camera to televise because we don't care. But they could if they wanted to. Yeah, no, and I actually feel like there are channels who like play it. You know what I mean? Yeah, Court TV. Yeah, like two irrelevance. It exists. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:19 That's how like, you know, when we get documentaries, there's always footage. And maybe it wasn't airing at the time when people didn't care but there's like a catalog of footage got it okay so we'll see what happens yeah are you ready for our fifth and final story bruno it's the fifth and final are you excited he's excited because that means when we're done you could have scratchies oh bruno lives for scratchies i think Theo's not turned towards me. He would see that as such a big... Oh, he would plot. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Okay. Oh, he said the scratchies were not up to the caliber that I desire. Okay, bye. Great. I got my chair back. What's the story, girly? Stassi Baby... Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:57 ...is going Instagram official with her man's Jaden Hossler. Jaden Hossler and Stassi Baby are Instagram official. After weeks of teasing their relationship, the couple shared their love to the grid over the weekend. He, 21, posted a gallery of selfies. How old is she? 25. Posted a gallery of selfies of him and his girlfriend on Saturday
Starting point is 00:48:17 getting cuddly in the stairwell. In the pics, the singer-songwriter and Baby post side by side. Baby? No, it's like her actual last name, but she's Stassi Baby to me. Post side-by-side, him in a tight gray shirt and black pants, and Stassi in a tight black bodysuit. So this is interesting. So for those who don't know, I feel like you probably don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Me? I don't know who Jaden Hossler is. And why the People Magazine article is actually leading with Jaden Hossler, because the headline is Jaden and Stassi. So Jaden is a major TikToker. He's from like the OG Hype House days. Like he's part of like the Addison, Charlie, Bryce crew. He was one of those guys. Yeah. Bryce Hall. And what about Streis? No, Streis wasn't in the Hype House. He's one of like the OGs. He was dating this girl, Maddie. And they were like the couple of the house yada yada and then this other couple jayden
Starting point is 00:49:06 i feel like we spoke about them a lot jayden and nessa remember nessa oh nessa so they were like these two couples and then it turned out that nessa and jayden from the two couples started dating affair um it wasn't clear it wasn't you know it wasn't totally kosher you know but these kids are 17 so then jayden and nessa started dating and everyone was like not okay but then it turned out like they were like otp they were they're both singers they're both like like really emo like and you know it was it was good and then they broke up and it was like so confusing um now i guess he's dating stassi baby i know way too much about these kids but i'm spending all my time on tiktok i might as well like provide something of value here at the toast and now
Starting point is 00:49:50 he gets to eating saucy yeah which is definitely like you know good for him yeah like older woman new circle new circle she's gorgeous i kind of love this for him Yeah for him I don't know if I love it for her Yeah I feel like Stas Not I Stas hasn't had like Like a big relationship Like to Cause Stasi's like Like we know her
Starting point is 00:50:13 But a lot of people She's just Kylie's friend Whatever But she's like a business woman And she's kind of Her own celebrity now And I think the next thing She really needs
Starting point is 00:50:19 Is like a major relationship Well maybe this will be good For her like With the youngins Yeah Like oh Jaden's Who's Jaden's girlfriend Right And they'll like'll, like, go and find her. But no, this can't be our final destination for Stass. She needs an A-list. Honestly, I might add her
Starting point is 00:50:31 to the list, even though I know she's not single currently. I know, she's good for the list. She will be soon. And she's good for the list. She's really eligible. She runs in fabulous circles. She's gorgeous. And she could, like, handle, like, a really successful man. Man. Because, like, you see how she is. With Kylie. Yeah. She's comfortable. Is there anyone on the list who we think would be good for her? Um, let me pull up my list. Cause it's been a while.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Okay, here we go. Stassi baby. Chris Evans. No, I think he's like dating someone, but he's always dating like a Normie. Shawn Mendes.
Starting point is 00:51:02 I don't see it, but I don't see it, but this guy kind of looks like Shawn Mendes. It's also a good age. This guy looks like Jaden. Something like Shawn Mendes. I don't see it. I don't see it. But this guy kind of looks like Shawn Mendes. It's also a good age. This guy looks like Jaden. Something like Shawn Mendes. Like that's what she needs. She needs something like.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Yeah. Harry Styles. Yes. I always think of Harry single now. Yeah. Drop a comment. Who do you think Stassi baby should date? Well, you know, she dated Tyler Cameron for like a day.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Remember that? No. Yeah. Yeah. They were like rumored for like a minute. Okay. And every once in a while she'll be linked or like a picture, a cute picture will emerge of her and Rob.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Obsessed. Which I'm obsessed with. Remember they were like leaving the club, like leaving each other, but I don't think they were hooking up. They were just like being friendly. Family friends. And like maybe, you know, helping each other walk sort of thing, which I'm obsessed with I'm obsessed we need you know we need in 2023 Kylie and Stas could be sisters well I think we're all kind of in agreement there's we're kind of going through like a very
Starting point is 00:51:55 stale Kardashian era like nothing they're doing is like really giving I think it's on Rob to save the family so I think now is really what we need is a Rob comeback I think that is one of very few things that could really catapult them back to like their pre-2022 success and I think honestly it's he needs to like it's his turn to see like everyone has done their step up he slacked for years but he still like enjoys the fruits no but the thing is with Rob and I think why everyone's okay with him like not I know he's like can't handle it like the fame and and i think he struggled with addiction like no i know they they they're okay with it because it protects them i think where they feel like annoyed with courtney is different because like courtney really enjoys all the fruits of
Starting point is 00:52:38 everything holding up her end she is by the way courtney's actually really not bothering me. No, like I would say- She's just in her happy place. In the Q scores, like she's scoring high right now. I agree. And like, I think what her and Travis's relationship like is great for the family and they need a similar relationship like to bring, to revive. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:57 Now we're saying it could be Rob, but it won't be. Let's like- I know. And that's what's best for his mental health. So like, I'll allow it. You'll allow it. It could be Kendall. Yeah, it'll allow it. It could be Kendall. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:06 It won't be. It should be Khloe. It could be Khloe. It can't really be Kim. No. Like, I think she already did that. The thing. She like, she brought the family back with Kanye.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Yeah. And so like, you can't do it twice. Remember when there were rumors like Brad Pitt was dating like Kourtney or Khloe. Like, I liked that time. That's kind of what the family needs. they need to go big yeah like something they have to I'm sure they're working on something I think they know they're kind of in their flop era and I'm curious what they have in the works Chloe and Elon obsessed like something like that like fucking crazy something crazy that like they could bring in like that's why I was seeing Brad Pitt
Starting point is 00:53:44 like someone who's larger than life, who we don't really get access to, but like bring him in, like we see him in videos and like maybe on the show in the corner, like for them to humanize someone, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:53 That's like their trademark thing. Yeah. I love that. Or like Kendall and Harry Styles. Yeah, that's what everyone, it's so obvious. Honestly, I'm not, I don't really ship it.
Starting point is 00:54:02 No, I ship. You could find me shipping. No, you'd find me on the ship with me and harry but i also like don't really think that they're a good match the right match so i'm not gonna like get like i'm not like sitting here waiting for them to get back together but like if that's what they chose like how i'd be here you know i'm sure i would enjoy the photos and kylie's like kind of single now too yes they kind of all are except for courtney yeah they need to like they need to go on grouper stop and like they need to get four a-listers like friends and they need to go on a group date yeah who's like a crew of like eligible a-list a-listers like who's brad pitt's friends with that's don't, like, this wouldn't work because they're all married,
Starting point is 00:54:45 but, like, the Jonas Brothers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that. A grouper. Or what about, like, the Wahlbergs? What are they doing? Married? No, and they're much older.
Starting point is 00:54:54 They need an older man. Like, Donnie's married. Mark is married. They're all married. Fine. They need a family. The Gronkowskis. He has, like, a bunch of brothers.
Starting point is 00:55:04 But Jason's very married. Travis is not. Travis is not. But they need to stay away from athletes. True. It's a tawdry, tawdry space.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Okay, let me just think of a couple more famous siblings and then we can move on. Or even like a boy band. Yeah. Or a man band, sorry.
Starting point is 00:55:23 Like bands are like not a thing, yeah. A man band. Like Chris Martin not a thing yeah a man band like chris martin is not like mumford he's married to carrie mulligan rats i know everyone's kind of taken it's coming season you know turdy let's go let's direct our efforts to nashville yeah the thing with nash like country boys, they're all wiped up. Yeah. Like it's a part of their culture, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Bye dirt. Find the one you can't live without. Get a ring, let your knee hit the ground. Do what you love and call it work. And throw a little money in the plate at church. Send your prayers up and your roots down deep. Add a few limbs to your family
Starting point is 00:56:05 tree watch their pencil marks in the grass in the yard all grow up and the truth yeah they all sing about like faith and family they're not saying all goes by real quick you can't buy happiness but you can buy dirt obsessed and that's really like like, I feel like the Kardashians would hear that and be like, true, true, true, and true. Yeah, they kind of have, like, country family values. They do. Are they, like, cowgirls? They all say, like, they want to give it all up and move to the farm.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Right, right. They all say it. Right. Kylie needs a cowboy. Kylie needs a cowboy. Kylie needs a cowboy. And there are some eligible younger Nashvillians. Kylie and Blair at Eldridge.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Kylie and Morgan Wallen. That's it. That's the one. That's the one. Oh my God, I'm obsessed with young. So those are the fast five. You certainly did not need to know them, but we had a good time.
Starting point is 00:57:00 I had a good, like Kylie and Morgan Wallen is going to get me through my darkest days. Yeah. Obsessed. A Yeah. Obsessed. A blast. Obsessed. But the show's not over because it's Wednesday and we have three toasters in desperate need of our help.
Starting point is 00:57:11 And our first tier toasters is a girl having trouble with her wenchy boss. And the boss is giving wench like behavior. So again, every Wednesday is our advice segment. It's called Dear Toasters. And if you ever want to write in, of course, your submission is always anonymous. Email deartoasters at gmail.comcom and we will do our best to get your submission read on air if we have read your submission on air fucking send us an update okay it's unacceptable i scoured that stupid email account for hours yesterday looking for an update
Starting point is 00:57:36 for someone i didn't just search update i did okay so why did it take you hours because there was only a couple emails that said update and And they were all like, I promise I'll update. Okay? Wench doubting me. So then I had to just go through by hand to see if anybody replied to themselves. Wench doubted you. You're right. Hey, Jackson Claude.
Starting point is 00:57:54 How you doing? I'm a Gen Z toaster here. Oh, did you find us on TikTok? Oh, am I your big sis? I'm in need of some advice about my new boss. I work at my college's gym as a spin instructor, and I just got a new boss at the beginning of the semester. She is wacky, to say the least. Within one day of meeting me, she asked me for a ride home and then made me come inside her house and handed me her dog's dog leash so I could walk her dog. Within the one week that I have known her, she has told me that
Starting point is 00:58:17 I have a personality that is too big and needs to be reined in. She referred to me as her dog's boyfriend and asked me to drive her two hours to the airport the most recent offense was that when discussing an inappropriate client who made a comment about my body she turned around and said well yeah you're robust but who cares am I being too sensitive or does this lady have no boundaries what do I do do I just ignore it I love my job and I don't want to quit so please help oh my god so either like you obviously like next time she asks you for a ride no sorry no you don't owe her a ride if you keep doing it like you get into the habit of her thinking it's acceptable yeah no you don't you can say no to all of those extra it's not like she's asking you to do things
Starting point is 00:58:54 like in the workplace like right no no I won't walk your dog and like you're a college student like you have classes you have exams you have homework you have a million excuses like sorry I have study group so stop doing all those extra things for her but in terms of like that comment that's unacceptable especially you work at a gym like fuck off if it like really made you uncomfortable like you shouldn't maybe tell someone higher up but I don't want you to lose your job either that's like a great gig for a college student and she shouldn't ruin it for you so either if you can't like ignore her and like just tuck her away and just be like okay irrelevant ugly bye um report it yeah but you can't really like report giving her a ride because it's like well you don't have to give her a ride you can
Starting point is 00:59:28 report the body comment it's always important just to at least start a file like if you're having trouble with someone at work like if you come to them at the end of the year she did all this consistently be reporting it and you know what like you didn't do anything wrong so i wouldn't worry about you getting fired report it all the things that you can say no to say no to um and just keep a record you know that's what they say keep a record yeah for it and also just like stay the fuck away from her so she doesn't think like oh i need someone to help me today let me call that girl yeah like you want to think like no you're not easy you're that girl who's never around yeah you're that girl who's got so much going on yeah she's so fabulous dates trips to the cape trips to the cape clam
Starting point is 01:00:04 plan bakes her social events calendar is so booked i Dates, trips to the Cape. Trips to the Cape. Clambakes. Her social events calendar is so booked. I'll ask someone else to drive me to the airport. Maybe I'll call a taxi. Maybe. Maybe. Make yourself completely unavailable in anything that isn't work related. All right, next up. Hey there, girly girls. Love you guys so much. I'm in need of some help. I recently got engaged to a total PJ on this past Christmas. However, I don't love my engagement ring. For reference, it's white gold, which looks silver. And I'm a gold girly through and through. I have no idea why he picked something other than gold since it's all I wear in jewelry.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Like I don't own a silver piece at all. I am contemplating getting it gold plated because this white gold just isn't me and I'm not in love with it. It actually bugs me that he did this because it's like he hasn't been paying attention or hadn't picked up that I'm a gold jewelry wearer and we've been together for seven years please what do I do am I being such a bitch or am I justified in wanting to make this ring perfect since I'm the one looking at it every day I love the cut and everything else it's strictly just the color okay that's really great that you love the cut and everything else because we can work with this the cheapest thing I think to change
Starting point is 01:00:57 is the color of your band yeah and I wouldn't be offended that like he didn't know that you wear gold jewelry like if you listen to yesterday's patreon episode like they don't know they don't know anything like a man wouldn't notice like a rock flying at his head until it was too late he's certainly not noticing if i ask ben but the only thing is like typically when someone gets an engagement ring like they do ask around so like but i also kind of like a man taking initiative i saw this beautiful ring and it reminded me of you unfortunately it wasn't the right choice. But I do like that he made a choice. No, and I feel like you can tell him just be like, by the way, like I'm thinking about
Starting point is 01:01:30 just having the ring gold plated. Reset. Reset. Reset. And by the way, if he's like angry, like that's a red flag, like chill. So I feel like it's like kind of a good test, you know? Yeah. You could also like take the original band because it might have like some meaning and
Starting point is 01:01:44 like repurpose it and just make it into like a wedding band that you wear on your other hand mixing like golden is white gold is cool so I feel like you could wait find a way to work that in but if you take the initiative of like I'm just gonna switch out the band I love the ring um I love you yeah like and you'll pay for it like I think that that's okay. I think that that's okay too. And it might hurt him a little bit. Like if, you know, he. I don't know. It's been, it's been like three months.
Starting point is 01:02:11 She got engaged on Christmas, like two months. Yeah. I can't imagine. Like on the one hand, it's like, sounds beautiful. Like, can't you just learn to love it? I know, but it's like, you spent all this money. You got to look at it every day. And it's like a reflection of you.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Like, I feel like an engagement ring is really like the person in a ring. Yeah. And if it's not you, it's not you. I have to imagine like if he went through all the trouble of like getting it and spending the money on it, he would want you to be happy with it. And it's like, it's meant to be a gift. Like you're not wearing it to make him happy. So fucking true.
Starting point is 01:02:37 It's meant to be a gift. So like make the gift what you want it to be. Yeah. I just think if you're the one who's going to go through all the hoops and pay for it. Right. I really think that you can do what you want it to be yeah I just think if you're the one who's gonna go through all the hoops and pay for it right I I really think that you can do what you want yeah no you're 100 it's not like you want to return the whole ring you don't like the stone or so that's what I was gonna say like the the detail that you want changed is like probably the least big of deal so it's really okay but just be open be honest yeah no one ever regretted telling the truth. Is that the truth? No, I've definitely regretted telling the truth.
Starting point is 01:03:07 There's a part of me that's like, if you just changed it and didn't tell him, what do you even know? What do you know? What do you know? Oh, I mean, sorry, I got my ring reset. I did not like the setting. When did you do it?
Starting point is 01:03:20 I think maybe before I even got married, like during the engagement. Yeah, positive. I'm sure you like don't remember. True, but I did get a reset. I don't even know if I told Ben. What did. Really? Like, during the engagement. Yeah. Are you sure? Positive. You, like, don't remember. True. But I did get a reset. I don't even know if I told Ben. What did you do? I paid for it myself.
Starting point is 01:03:29 The band was just really thick, and I wanted, like, a really thin one. Yeah. So, like, all the diamonds in the band are the same diamonds. I just got a new platinum band. Yeah. It was just too heavy. Yeah. I think that that's fine, then.
Starting point is 01:03:41 And it's crazy how resetting your ring, like, changes the ring entirely. It's like, I mean, it wasn't cheap, but it's crazy how resetting your ring like changes the ring entirely. It's like, I mean, it wasn't cheap, but it's much better than like getting a new diamond. And it's a really kind of low cost, relatively low cost way of giving your ring new life. Yeah, a new ring. I remember when I got it, I was like, oh my God, I opened it. I was like, my friend Ana did. I'm like, you sent me the wrong ring.
Starting point is 01:04:00 I didn't even notice it. Didn't recognize her. I didn't recognize my own ring. So that's exciting. You have something, you're getting a new piece of jewelry. Like it really looks so different. I'm excited for you. All right. Third and final dear toasters. Hey, Jackson, Claude, I'm a longtime toaster and breather. Did you see the Scott Rogowski episode? And I don't know what I would do if I couldn't listen to you Queens every day. Thank you. All right. Let me get into it. I'm going on vacation with my boyfriend's family in a couple months. We've been dating for about two
Starting point is 01:04:23 years. I love him dearly and I love his family too. I'm so grateful and excited that they invited me to join them on their family trip. Coincidentally, my aunt lives right near where we'll be staying. I haven't seen her in about a year and I thought it would be fun to see her while we're there. But when I brought it up to my boyfriend to see if a visit with her might fit into the schedule of our trip, he acted kind of offended about it. While he didn't outright say no, he basically told me that it would be inappropriate and rude towards his parents who are bringing me on their trip with them. Am I delusional slash out of line and thinking it would be okay to go see my aunt? My boyfriend is normally very chill and easygoing about things, so I was surprised by this reaction.
Starting point is 01:04:58 I don't want to offend his parents or his family, but I also would feel bad if I was there and never attempted to see my aunt. Help. What should I do? I see both sides. I kind of do too, but like at the end of the day, like it's fucking crazy to like be staying down the street from your aunt and not go see her. Now it's different if like you want your aunt to come to dinner with everyone. No, if you want to sneak out and go see your aunt, you're totally fine in doing that. You definitely have to be cautious because like you don't, it's like their family. Families get weird in territory. So like it's their their family. Families get weird in territory. Also like it's their family trip.
Starting point is 01:05:28 You can't be inserting your family into their family. But if you say like, oh, everyone's going for a walk. I'm just going to go run and see my aunt for an hour. Jason, you want to come? Yeah, that wouldn't offend me, but I could see a little bit where her boyfriend's coming from. And it's like, we didn't bring you here to go see your aunt, but it's also like, you're not a prisoner. Like, and like, it's kind of crazy like if you don't live near someone who's your family and you literally
Starting point is 01:05:49 happen to be staying five minutes away from them it's that's rude not to go see them yeah but you could say like I'm here with my boyfriend's family and they have it a side tenor I just want to tell you know like I'm in town if and if I have time like I'll come see you and then but also I'm sorry that's that's vacation with Hitler. Like that's insane. I agree a little bit, but I do understand a little bit where he's coming from. Not saying that I agree with him. And also if it were me and like Zach had some, we were on a family trip and like he wants
Starting point is 01:06:16 to go visit with someone for a few hours in the day. I'd be like, oh my God, amazing. Go same. And I imagine I'm thinking like if these were my in-laws, like my in-laws would invite them over to sleep over. Like, but people are different. And it's like, like we didn't and if also if they're like paying for you it's like we didn't pay for your trip to go see your aunt you know this isn't like your family sponsored why are you so controlling why are you so crazy no honestly I I'm on your side
Starting point is 01:06:36 here like I think you can see your aunt like I get family mixing is weird like but no it's not mixing it's gonna be an outing she's gonna go alone so it's not mixing the boyfriend's not gonna come an outing. She's going to go alone. So it's not mixing. The boyfriend's not going to come. That's rude. He doesn't need to come take it. And also like, he's already being a freak. Like, stop, don't invite, like, don't make him come. It's not mixing, but I think you need to find like the right, you have to, it's a delicate
Starting point is 01:06:57 line, but also it's like, it's just, it is weird. No, but the thing is the boyfriend probably hasn't told his parents about it yet. And it's entirely possible the parents will be like, oh my God, of course, go see your aunt. Like they understand family. Or he's like reacting in the way he thinks they're gonna react. Where it's like, keep her locked up. But you know what?
Starting point is 01:07:16 She said, did she say she's on a date with her boyfriend? No, there's boyfriend and girlfriend. Okay, but like, you know, families do have to start mixing when you get married and stuff like that. And like, you know what? Like you should set- Stop with married and stuff like that and like you know what like you should set stop with the mixing no but i'm saying like you should set if you let them steamroll over you on this like you're setting a precedent like go see your fucking aunt yeah but that's not about mixing no but that's not you being independent
Starting point is 01:07:36 which is important we'll probably meet this family if they get married agree but like if they don't get married like why do we meet your aunt i don't need them to meet the aunt okay no i don't need them i'm not saying that you're desperate you're desperate for them to mix no i'm not i'm just saying they will if you get engaged like your family's of course and when you get engaged but if i'm the boyfriend i'm saying no but what you do in your relationship sets precedent for for your life which is why i think you need to assert your independence but not the mixing of the ant I didn't say mix you said mix so many times in this conversation I literally didn't say it I didn't say that these families are gonna mix all the vacation how do you fucking say that okay you did you said mixing
Starting point is 01:08:13 can be weird but it has to I did I did say that I did say that why do we need to talk about mixing because these people might get married but mixing is not what this is about it's about you asserting your independence on a family trip okay whatever you say toxic future mother-in-law okay that is true but i don't i don't even know like if harry's girlfriend wanted to go you guys are going to the florida yeah but i'm the type that's like go goodbye yeah please get out of my space like like absence makes our girlfriend i'll miss you yeah and then i can't wait for you to come back like i think like time spent like that's always good when someone has like, oh, I like this to do this today.
Starting point is 01:08:46 And I'm going to go. What if she wanted to take Harry? And you're on family vacation. And they're not engaged. And he's going to go meet some rogue aunt. I don't think so. Harry stays with his mommy. You're fucking crazy.
Starting point is 01:08:58 It depends. It depends. A million things. Yeah. Like, are we, is this a really short vacation? We don't have a lot of time. Where are we on vacation? Where, really, how far does the aunt live? ant live is this what is she missing out on is
Starting point is 01:09:07 this somewhere that's like a remote place that it's like oh my god it's so crazy that i'm down the street from this ant or it's like somewhere you could go anytime we're going down the shore it's circumstantial it's circumstantial really but ultimately like he can go wherever the fuck he wants and ultimately like he's gonna mix families with that girl one day but not today no um go see your aunt you go see your aunt for sure if your boyfriend doesn't want to come like bye who care literally who cares you want to see your aunt yeah you weren't like i really want my aunt to meet my boyfriend you have free will girly don't forget that was that only two no that was three that was three robust ring right three. Robust. Ring.
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