The Toast - Toast Herstory: Robert Flatts (Original Airdate December 10th, 2020)

Episode Date: October 4, 2024

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Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to the Morning Toast. Happy Thursday. Happy Taylor Swift Day. Happy, happy. Happy Turtleneck Day. Claude and I are both wearing turtlenecks. It's inside the Toaster Studio.

Oh, yes. Also, yesterday we were both wearing blazers. Yes, blazers. I feel as though we're both so simpatico. I just have to say. Erotico, hypnotico. I wear a turtleneck, specifically this one, like almost every day. So you're kind of like...

Just catching up. That would be like if I wore, you know, culottes. Like I would never... Hurtful. No, that's like your thing. No, and by the way, I will have you know that when I had to clean out my closets for the move, I do believe the culottes did not make the cut. Oh my God.

They did not make the cut oh my god original toasters original toasters will remember the culottes what I like to call gaucho pans um that really kind of shaped the toast in its early stages mostly because I wore them on the first day of the morning toast and you wore them a lot like those first few months yeah you know those were hard first few months and sometimes sometimes you just can't help but put on your culottes. And I feel like for other people, it's like, oh, I'm having a hard time. Let me turn to my sweatpants. Or like listen to music. No, no, no. But like in terms of fashion choices, you know, like your, your choices reflect the way that you're feeling. Yeah. For me, like I. Turn to the culottes. I turn to the culottes. The culottes were

my sweatpants of the day. And I'm not proud of it. Why? I think it's great. At least it shows like you're interesting. Like I've literally never worn a pair of pants that wasn't like black leggings or black jeans. And like, you're out here just like taking risks. Did they, did it work? No. But you are so sure of yourself that you just like took risks and put on a pair of pants very few people would ever put on. And I think that makes you interesting and fabulous. Wow. That is such a nice compliment. Thank no it's true I'll take it I'll take it like literally people maybe have not noticed I've literally wore these leggings every single day this week and last week we love to see it I always I'm always wearing these leggings too and I just

I thought I don't know I was going for like a mule day but my the color of my ankles are scary like pink and purple yeah my skin because I didn't get that like you know I usually get sun once a year and now I didn't get my yearly sun I'm turning green yeah it's time for some self like fake tanner yeah I reached this point last year it ain't easy being green speaking of the grin well that's Kermit the Frog but sure speaking of green no speaking of being green and not having an easy go of it. No, speaking of fictional green characters. Yes, I actually am so glad you brought that up because I really did not want to bring my recap of

the very small portion of the Grinch that I watched. I didn't want to drag it into the TV recap segment because that's like a sacred place. I just wanted to get it out right now. And really just shame on NBC. Seriously. Like, first of all, I put it on an hour late because like, I don't, I didn't care. And it was a scene without Matthew Morrison. And you'd think like it would be, you know, better. It was just like, besides Matthew Morrison, like it was horrible.

Like explain to me, you know how like the who's all have like noses that are like. Turned up. Turned up. Yeah. Yeah. They turn the fuck up. So they not only like, the Who's all have, like, noses that are, like. Turned up. Turned up, yeah. Yeah, they turn the fuck up. So they not only gave all the Who's turned up noses, they also gave all the Who's, like, big fat asses. Like, they had, like, curves.

It was, it was crazy. Like, literally everyone had, like, a huge hips and it was, like, everyone was shaped like pear, which was, like, such an odd choice because, like, Matthew Morrison's, like, running around the stage with, like, a big juicy ass big juicy ass it was like so disarming the Grinch did have a big juicy ass but it was this was like so overt like it like it was just so bizarre he literally looked like someone like like a like a baby with like a big diaper you know like it was so weird and then so it was just like really poorly done I'm sorry I have to say and then Matthew Morrison came down the chimney and like my life was ruined he was being so extra

like you and like first of all he was completely disguised but his voice he really didn't do a good job of like nailing the Grinch voice so it was like it was Mr. Shoe like his voice is sends a chill down my spine and it's so distinct that it was I mean I don't know what the team at NBC is thinking right now but it was a big fat failure and I was reading tweets online and it was so funny like I just love when we can all come together to like make fun of something you know that's so funny I caught bits and pieces really not a lot I did see Matthew Morrison and I just feel like there were so many people there are so many people who would have been amazing at it and even just thinking that like I didn't come prepared with a list of people but like Hugh Jackman wow yeah would have crushed it Zac Efron

yeah but it's like a weird role you have like that's why Jim Carrey made the Grinch so iconic is like you have to be like you can't be like so Hollywood like you have to just like be a freak like yeah and Matthew Morrison tried so hard to be that but he just is so cringy he's just a freak yeah honestly I don't even know if Hugh Jackman would have been good at it the reason why the Grinch is in my opinion like irrep irrep irreplaceable is because Jim Carrey like no one can do it like him so also like why not Jim Carrey yeah he's around yeah he doesn't sing I don't think anyone can sing if you try hard enough there's always gonna be another mountain so i just wanted to get that out um my tv recap with solid city and oc jackie and i both watched oc even though we promised that we wouldn't

um we'll do that in the tv recap i just wanted to get it out there like i'm sorry to everyone who was traumatized um by that performance last night honestly, it's been such a hard year. I find it really, I don't know, I find it shocking that the executives over at NBC would like intentionally want to hurt us.

Yeah. Yeah. It's not nice. It ain't right. It ain't right. Well, at least it's behind us. You know, like, I feel like there was so much

all of this like momentum leading up to this and now it's behind us and we can all like look ahead to 2021. Yeah. And we're looking ahead to tomorrow, which Taylor Swift announced this morning morning she has a new album we will go into

all of that that's why i'm wearing my cardigan standing in my cardigan remember what i said about anyone singing um yeah no we're gonna be talking about that forever more and also oh last night I had just a sublime evening if I may um I hosted oh yeah Taylor's parents that's Olivia and Zach Shapiro at my house yeah I remember I remember not being invited yeah yeah no you were not invited it was I'm really just trying to spend QT with individual um family members these days that's just like something that I'm feeling okay also I want to have you like won't come over. So, and I came to you on Monday night. I have never been invited.

That's not true. You invited me on Monday night after we had a plan to get together at my house, to which you invited yourself over. Like you made the plans and then tried to flip a switch. You tried to be the princess switch. I don't remember it that way. Princess, I remember. The rest, I don't.

That's exactly how it happened. Okay. The rest, I don't. That's exactly what happened. So I, every every time I go over to Olivia's like I'm just so hungry and she makes such good food so I wanted to provide that experience for her and I cooked up a feisty vibe and I used like all of my fancy dishes and it was so fabulous and sensational you'll have to come over sometime I think you would have really liked the cuisine chicken and pasta yum my two favorite food groups yeah yum well thanks for not inviting me. I really like, I appreciate it. You know, you'll definitely be not invited again. No. And that means so much to

me. And just, it's good to know where we stand. Yes, definitely. And tonight's the first night of Hanukkah. Oh yes. So if you're celebrating Hanukkah toaster, make sure to light those candles and publicize the Nase. It is so important, more than ever, it always feels like to publicize the Nase and be proud to be Jewish. Dreidel, dreidel, dreidel I made you out of clay, and when

it's dry, we really need to redo that song because like there's so many good Christmas carols. Like cabaret style. And that's our one song and it's just like so sophomoric. It's like it's the same tune as like Twinkle Twinkle Little Star. Yeah. It's the same tune as like something. La la la la la la. La la la la la la.

It's a familiar tune. Yeah and it just goes round and round. We need to like honestly like have someone work on it like Like a Jewish musician. Honestly like. No. I was going to say Haim. But they're not my style. Who's like a really popular Jewish. I heard somewhere Shawn Mendes is like half Jewish. Yeah.

Same with Harry Styles. Oh. Harry Styles. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That'd be good. Like just give us like a revamp.

I'm so over this one tune. And it's like the only one that's like become even remotely mainstream. And it's just like. I don't feel like it represents us as a culture and like how cool we are, you know? I actually love this song. And I feel like I'm always singing it because whenever I ring up Snatchler, I'm like, Snatchler, Snatchler, Snatchler.

Yeah. I made you out of snatch. And when your snatch is ready. Oh, Snatchler, I shall play. Maybe we could be the ones to jazz it up. Allow me to get my guitar for a good jam session. By the way, I kept saying publicize the nace. And for those who don't know me, it's publicize the miracle.

Ness is miracle. And the miracle of, you know, the candles lasting. So you put your... The oil lasting. Yeah. So you put your menorah in the window to publicize the miracle of Hanukkah. Just a little fun fact. And I live in a bunker with no windows. So it's hard for me to publicize the nice.

Oh my God. Now that I have so many windows, I literally am going to put a menorah in each one. Just publicity. I'm happy for you. I'm the PR person for Hanukkah. I'm happy for you and all your windows. You should come over to like. Actually, in my journey to like maybe moving, I looked at an apartment yesterday that I

really like the building because I actually like have a bunch of friends who live in the building, which sounds so fun to me. And you know when like you want something to like just work so badly. Yeah. The apartment was just not it. Except it had like the biggest kitchen I'd ever seen in a New York City apartment. It had like a formal dining room and then like a place in the kitchen to like put a table. Have breakfast. Which is insane.

Like that's just not a thing. And I just I wanted it to be the right apartment just like would have been so easy if the first one I but it wasn't I'm sorry it was really upsetting I got my hopes like way high up I just want you to know like I've gotten the the boys's hopes up and the boys being the pups and our husbands and I feel like the toasters now too that like we'll live in the same building soon I tried yeah you're we're gonna have to try again what do you want me to do? Build a new unit?

No, just like be patient for something to come on the market. See, that's, I'm so glad you brought that up. The one thing I don't have right now or ever is patience. It's like, it's probably one of my worst qualities about like how impatient I am. Yeah. And it impacts every facet of my life. Like work, personal. Like I just am so motherfucking impatient.

Like I can't wait for anything okay fine I'll tell them to speed it up maybe if you could just like be a terrible neighbor and encourage some of your other people in the building to move out I know only people though in a two-bedroom okay fine I'm gonna work on it we're gonna we're gonna make this happen for you I found a great apartment in olivia's building no pets which is like that is just so unbelievably disgusting that oh my god i would never i would never even want to support a building like that he shouldn't even hear those words no i know oh my god vile vile behavior so sick okay well we need to get into things because we have a jam-packed fast five stories today like that even one had to get cut wow you know it's crazy one of the ones i sent no okay good but without further ado it is time for the past five stories that you need to know

before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast surprise more new taylor swift music is on its way uh today just over four months after she released her album folklore the grammy winner announced that another album her ninth ninth studio album, is on the way. Titled Evermore, the so-called sister album to Folklore, drops later tonight at midnight Eastern time. So Taylor posted on her Instagram that Evermore is coming. She said, to put it plainly, we just couldn't stop writing songs. To try and put it more poetically, it feels like we were standing on the edge of the Folklorian woods

and had a choice to turn and go back or to travel further into the forest of the folklorian wards and had a choice to turn and go back or to travel further into the forest of this music we chose to wander deeper in let me let me just try and explain how i'm feeling please please part of course like on the surface i'm so excited like all i ever want is taylor swift music i feel like so many fandoms get like so much music from their favorite artists and it's like i waited like two years after for Reputation and then two years like it's so exciting I feel like an Ariana Grande fan like we just get so much music and so on the surface I'm like so so excited especially because like folklore is really like in terms of genre like one of my favorites especially

given the year that we've had and I'm just looking forward to getting another 15 songs similar to folklore also I looked at the track titles and a lot of them definitely seem like things I would had and I'm just looking forward to getting another 15 songs similar to Folklore. Also I looked at the track titles and a lot of them definitely seem like things I would be interested in. Like I love a song just named after a woman. So we have Dorothy. What is that about? Who knows? We also have Marjorie. Who knows? We also have a song called The Last Cowboy which I just know is going to be it's going to be Betty vibes like that's what I'm getting for sure. Wow. We're also getting a music video tonight for the song Willow which I just love the name Willow.

So there's a lot to be excited about. There is. And I personally just want to say I'm excited about the title of this album because for those of you who are familiar with the ghost of Sneetch's past she haunts the halls of the house we rented in Utah forevermore.

And I just love that it's so spooky. It's such a great word and I'm glad that it will be like It also reminds me of that Josh Groban song from Beauty and the Beast. A stunning song if you don't know it. So yes, I'm here for all those things. How else are you feeling? Now, I think if I unpack my feelings a little bit more,

like I woke up and I was just like feeling very overwhelmed. That's what I thought you were going to say. I don't know what time she posted. Eight. And I woke up like I was on my phone by like 845. And I was just getting inundated with like DMs like wake up, wake up. And it's like I just felt like very anxious and now I'm just feeling overwhelmed because you've worked to do this weekend in digesting a whole new album no it's like I wasn't

even gonna stay up till midnight tonight but like now I have to and it's like my sleep is so important to me these days and I just I don't know I think if I really like think about how I feel I'm feeling very overwhelmed like I don't even know if I've had enough time to sit with folklore and I've listened to folklore so much but like still it, I'm, especially after the new Disney Plus thing, like, I'm learning more about other songs, and, like, I'm listening to This Is Me Trying so much more, and that was a song I used to skip. Like, I'm just, I'm feeling overwhelmed. Like, that's the only word I can use. Like, I'm, I'm overwhelmed. Well, I feel like, I understand why you're overwhelmed, but I feel like because this is a sister album, like'll spend the weekend listening to this you'll be introduced to these songs and then eventually

you'll listen to Folklore and Evermore together yeah because they should be the same vibe they're sister albums she also sisters just like us and we love sisters and we're sisters who support other sisters therefore we have to support Folklore and Evermore very true very true also there are some collabs on the album yes Yes. Bonnie Vare shows up again. Love. They obviously work great together again. Haim shows up again. How are you feeling? I'm not a big Haim fan, but Taylor can make me like anyone. So like whatever. I'm like obviously like the biggest national fan now. And The National is also doing a collab, which is exciting because Aaron Dessner, who was in the folklore for people who like aren't really like insular, like in the

Taylor Swift world. Let me explain it to you. In the Disney Plus documentary Disney Plus documentary that guy Aaron Destner who like created a lot of the songs with Taylor and Jack is a part of a band called The National so now I guess he's was working on folklore more as a producer and now he's like a full-on collaborator like him and his band I don't know if other people are in The National but I think there's probably a few guys I'm sure yeah I think well that's like because he said like that's how they write songs like yeah his band because like I just found out that like um Panic at the Disco is just like one guy really yeah there's no band it's just Brendan Urie that's like his stage name that doesn't sound like what I thought no same it was like shocking when I found out Stitch told me also I'm pretty sure that Bonnie Bear is a band

and Justin's the lead singer no I think so I was doing some investigative work. Just wait. I'm googling it. I wasn't even investigating. I just stumbled on it. That just doesn't sound familiar. It's an American indie folk band founded by Justin Vernon. I'm just going to choose to. It's a band.

They said it was a band. The thing is. And it's categorized as a band. That very well may be true. I just will not continue on. Like, I don't want to change what I already think. It doesn't work for me. Boney Bear's a guy, and it's like, I'll know that that's wrong,

but I'm just, like, really not interested in, like, resetting how I see Boney Bear. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, no, I understand. It's too much for one day. It's so much. Like, I'm so overwhelmed. Like, I'm just, that's, just don't even say it. Like, that's too much for me.

Okay, okay, so. That was, like, when I okay so that was like when i found out that like the lead singer of rascal flats's name was not rascal it was gary like that was a huge shake-up yeah and you're just finishing processing that i'm still not over it what's the point in naming your band that's what's confusing bony bear like that does sound like a name kind of kind of but like rascal flats that's like literally naming your band claudia like well that makes no fucking sense that's not a whole name rascal flats thatts, that's like literally naming your band Claudia Oshry. Well, that makes no fucking sense. That's not a whole name. Rascal Flatts?

That's not someone's like real name. Why not? It could be, but it's not like, oh, that's not like John Smith. No, it's literally John Smith. Rascal is such a common name. Flatts is a last name. Rascal's not a name? It's not a common name.

Wait. What? Wait. rascal's not a name it's not a common name wait wait what wait i can't even get into your mindset that rascal could be someone's name what like it could be like tree could be someone's name wait like rascals like a name like wait like rascals like little rascals like oh my god wait it's a mischievous or cheeky person especially a child or a man so like no one's gonna name their kid rascal you're so right oh my god oh my god yeah that i'm saying the word so much i see how you thought it was a name no like i can't even explain what i'm feeling right now like i'm so upset oh my god this whole time i don't know i saw the word rascal with a capital R and I'm like, oh, it's like a name like Robert like

Robert Oh my god, I sound so stupid. And you have said this like so many times I've never really dug deeper. No, you should have! Like, yeah! You should have! I'm soals I guess that's a bunch of kids who are being mischievous oh god oh my god I'm just learning so much today that's like really shaking up my psyche and so like now are you feeling overwhelmed I'm feeling so uneasy like everything you thought is just I'm so upset like everything you thought you knew is being brought into question no it's like the way that I saw the world is completely different now than it was 10 minutes ago yeah sometimes

that can happen that happened to me with Dachshund like I'm telling you that was crazy did you see there was a Dachshund in Salt Lake City last night in That was crazy. Did you see there was a Dachshund in Salt Lake City last night? In one of the B-rolls, there was a Dachshund running across the way. Oh, no. I don't watch B-roll. Like I'm always scrolling on my phone. Oh, that's funny. Oh, my God.

I'm shook up by that. We're just going to give you a minute to process that. No, I'm okay. Like. You know what rascal is a similar word to, I feel like? What? Snitch. It's also like scoundrel.

So I guess if there was a band called Snitches Ain't like i would think that that was a weird person that's a person to me first name snitches last name ain't i know her yeah of course oh my god okay so evermore comes out tonight everyone stream it and i'm actually curious just like from the business side of things like um will she be able to sell over a million copies which is like her thing most of her albums have um but because she releases an album once every two years like will she be able to do that twice in a year yes that'll be crazy yes because folklore was so successful folklore was so successful people are saying this is folklore part two okay everyone who subscribed to part one is

going to be interested in part two yeah and if the music is good the music speaks for itself you're right you can't get people to like buy like it's so crazy how that happens like I actually on the one hand I feel like sometimes people put out bad music and like it becomes popular yes but like sometimes you put out a bad album and like the people respond art pop you know well that was like we've been sitting on that no but like you know what I mean you can't just like put out an album and expect it to like soar unless it's really really good yeah but then even still people put out really really good albums that just flop which is so crazy to me with that but that's because we live in a generation of people who have no taste lotus christine aguilera justice for it i feel like in a lot of ways joanne wasn't successful

but it was stunning but it was stunning beautiful stunning and smart i just there's just like a few of those that like honestly i think one of the greatest albums of all time is native by one republic and like nobody's ever heard of it yeah like honestly I think one of the greatest albums Of all time is Native By One Republic And like nobody's ever heard of it Yeah but they know the songs From the commercials on ABC Yes I got my mind made up

And I can't let go I'm feeling so uneasy You know what I was already feeling uneasy When we started the show Because I'm having like such cramps I've tried to hide it from you guys But I couldn't

I'm the American cramper But All of the laughter It's like It's shaking up my cramps. I've tried to hide it from you guys, but I couldn't. I'm the American cramper. All of the laughter, it's like, it's shaking up my cramps. It's truly what they say. Laughter is the best medicine. It's not like my cramps have gone away, but now they're like a little disoriented. They're like, what's this other pain in the belly? No, I think that cramps like feed off of your depression. So like, honestly, your endorphins are now like kicking in. Yeah. And they're just combating cramps. Right next to mital mital mital mital oh my god remember in the beginning of quarantine when i thought that you couldn't take mital because of the acetamethion and um you weren't taking it i didn't take it for my first quarantine period and

then i realized like i got my things mixed up that's crazy i don't take mital mital is everything you need to give it you need to be patient with it 30 40 minutes solves all your problems really helps all of your i'm just like an advil queen but i need to stop taking, you need to be patient with it. 30, 40 minutes solves all your problems. Really? Solves all of your. I'm just like an Advil queen. But I need to stop taking Advil for like everything in my life. And also you're not supposed to take Advil when you're on your period. Because it will, it's a blood thinner. So it affects your.

Flow. Flow. I can't help it if I have a flow and a wide set vagina. And flow is also another prestigious end. Yes. Yeah. And you know, she gets a bad rap. Maybe that's why she comes hard for me,

because she's like, you're too good of an aunt. Like, I'm the number one aunt in this group. No, that's not what she does. She's trying to toughen you up, because being an auntie is a lot of work. It's true. It's true. Okay, ready for our next story?

Yes. Tiffany Haddish turned down hosting the Grammys pre-telecast, and here's why. Tiffany Haddish was asked to host the Grammys pre-telecast premiere ceremony, but the comedy superstarship she turned down hosting the Grammys pre-telecast and here's why Tiffany Haddish was asked to host the Grammys pre-telecast premiere ceremony but the comedy superstars she turned down the offer when the recording academy told her that she had to pay her own way no yeah like not get a salary and not only did they ask her to host the three-hour live stream event without any compensation but she tells Variety that they wouldn't cover hair, makeup, or wardrobe for the three-hour event. Three hours? Oh my god, that sounds like torture. She said, all that would have

all that would have had to come out of my pocket. I don't know if this might mean I might not ever get nominated again, but I think it's disrespectful. I totally agree. Yes, for context, the pre-show, it's not hosted by, it's not like organized by CBS, it's done by the Academy, which is a not-for-profit organization. So all hosts, presenters, and performers have traditionally performed gratis, including this year. Okay, does that mean the person who hosts the Grammys real show doesn't get paid? I guess so. Or does CBS pay them? Oh, I don't know. That's a good question, but like obviously presenters, performers don't get paid, and I guess that would translate over to red carpet hosts, even though I feel like they're the hardest working people there.

Yeah. I mean, okay, now that, okay, I guess the Recording Academy, like technically, yes, is a nonprofit. It doesn't give off like nonprofit vibes. No, it doesn't. By any means, but they're big, fancy telecasts. It gives off very profitable vibes. It gives off like very like private equity vibes.

Okay. So I don't know. I think asking people to work for free is a big thing in Hollywood but like it's more so when you're up and coming so it's like honestly Tiffany Haddish would be doing the Grammys a favor by lending her name and likeness to this pre-show telecast that I never even heard of you know what I mean yeah so it's like okay if someone like a digital star like a rising host got this opportunity they would do it for free because it's worth their time for the opportunity tiffany haddish doesn't need this

she's one of the biggest comedians in the world so they should really just be like it's it is disrespectful you know i understand that they're not going to pay people to do their red carpet but then you gotta lower your standards yeah no no i understand you're not going to pay people so don't ask the biggest comedian in the world like yeah maybe I'll do it yeah no you know what I mean like it's it is disrespectful and just to like offer someone a job for no money like seems fucked up like yeah especially someone who doesn't need to do this it's like they don't need it to Tiffany Haddish will be just as relevant whether and famous whether or not she hosts this telecast or not yeah yeah that that is really interesting though and I feel like a lot of times there are sort of these question marks it's either like with these big opportunities

they're either getting paid so much money or they're not getting paid at all right because it's like okay there's someone hosting the Oscars like when Kevin Hart was my water bottle just like popped like when Kevin Hart was supposed to host it like in a of ways, he's always said that was like his biggest dream. He would do it for free. But it's also like the biggest job in the world. So like who has more money than the Oscars? Yeah. So I don't know.

I always think that too. Like when you go on Jimmy Fallon or Ellen. For example, it's so much work. But it's, and like you're giving the performance of a lifetime. So on the one hand, you should be paid millions of dollars. But on the other hand, it's a stage like no other. You're going to hit the top of the iTunes charts. So they don hand, you should be paid millions of dollars. But on the other hand, it's a stage like no other. You're going to hit the top of the iTunes charts.

So they don't get paid. Are you sure? Yes. But it's sponsored by Pepsi. So I would feel like Pepsi would pay people to use their name and likeness in association with Pepsi brand.

I, the Super Bowl performers do not get paid like last time I thought about this. But let me just double check. I feel like that's actually one they would get paid for only because it's sponsored. Super Bowl performers paid. I feel like, I feel like that's actually one they would get paid for only because it's sponsored. Verbal performers paid.

I feel like they do. They're not paid to perform according to CNBC. Okay. Yeah, I just have things like, do people get paid to go on Ellen or Jimmy Fallon? I don't think so. Right. I think in general, like, getting paid to do press is not done. A thing. I agree. Or like, do you get paid to do press is not done. A thing.

I agree. Or, like, do you get paid to be on the cover of a magazine? Yes. So that's where it gets confusing. But that's because it's, like. Like, you sell your story. Right. And, like, you have day rates for, like, the photo shoot.

Yeah. It's confusing. Yeah. I don't know. The line is super blurry. We need, like, a true A-lister to come on this show and just, like, spill, like, what do you get paid for? What don't you get paid for?

Like, what do you pay for yourself? What could you get paid for if you wanted to like okay if you have a music label and like like do they pay for your like Suburbans like I just have questions yeah you know Suburbans where do they all come people are always rolling around in Suburbans and I'm just curious who's footing the bill and is it Uber XL right that's a great question because when I'm in the Suburban it's always Uber XL I also feel like um a lot of times these days it is uber xl like it used to not be you should be like cyberbomb.com yeah yeah yeah but now it's uber xl yeah i agree i'm just i'm i find celebrity culture to be so interesting but i really find like the logistics

to be even more interesting like how do you get from place to place like when celebrities hang out do you guys text each other or do the managers text each other i think it's a combination but i'm just curious no and chrissy teigen does a really good job of letting people into the logistics of being a celebrity. Yeah, she, remember when she used to do those Q&As? She needs to do another one. Yeah. Okay, this next story, anyways, so bottom line, like, if you want Tiffany Haddish to do your red carpet, like, you gotta pay her. And if you don't have a budget, that's totally understandable as a non-profit. Maybe reach out to some hosts who could use the exposure yeah dream smaller yeah okay next story is like really amazing news for jessica simpson i know amazon is prepping jessica simpson docu-series

and scripted series based on her memoir as part of a multimedia rights deal so jessica simpson is just having a great week like she sold she literally sold the rights to her book which like every author tries to do and she sold it to Amazon Studios like that is just what what's better no there's and after her book had like the most amazing year so Amazon is opening the book on Jessica Simpson after striking a broad multimedia rights deal with the pop and reality tv star the streamer is working on an unscripted docuseries based on Simpson's memoir open book so does that mean like a reality show that's what I was confused about because it's like okay okay, it's a piece of content based on her life, her previous life that she already wrote about.

But then it's also unscripted. So a reality show based on what already happened? Yeah. That's not reality. No. I feel like it's a reality show of her now. Just like they're using buying the book rights to justify. I don't know.

And then also a scripted. A coming of age scripted series inspired by the book rights to justify. I don't know. And then also a scripted. A coming of age scripted series inspired by the book, which sounds amazing. Her early 20s, like rising to fame. That sounds so good. So, so good. Yeah. I'm really excited about this. Open Book was truly one of the best books I read all year, except for mine, which I

don't know if I've spoken about today. I'm writing a book. It's very exciting. You wrote it. Oh, shit. Already. It's all in here the ink is dry it's called girl with no job the crazy beautiful life of an instagram thirst monster it is

available for pre-order anywhere you can get books ebooks audiobooks and hardcover books amazon barnes and noble audible all the places if you go to the link girl with no job.com slash book you'll get all the links and i would really appreciate you supporting the book i'm a first-time author i'm very excited about it jackie has read the book she actually has a blurb on the back Thea was also on the back so it's just truly a family affair check it out girlthunderjob.com slash book yes Jessica Simpson's book was one of the best things I read all year and now it's just going to be like the gift that keeps on giving because we're getting more content from it yes and more content from her also just want to say Redhead's episode just dropped I dropped it

yesterday because it was like early but but also still six days late. Invisible Life of Addie LaRue was the book we read this month. We're recapping it. The book was so good. And I think it was one of my favorite episodes that we've done this year. One, because of the great recap. But two, we shared all of our other favorite books of the year. And I don't want to spoil anything, but Open Book by Jessica Simpson was one of my top

three books of the year that I read non-Redheads. Did you add my book, even though it's not published yet? But Open Book by Jessica Simpson was one of my top three books of the year that I read non-Redheads. Did you add my book even though it's not published yet? No, because we tried to do like 2020 titles. So hurtful. But your 2021 title, why would you want to be like looped into this year? I don't know. Just like any airtime for my book is genuinely appreciated. We did talk about the fact that you next month is going to be super exciting because one,

we're doing a redheads episode first thursday of january as always snitch's choice for the book i said snitch's book choice was it and someone commented so the book choice is it like with the balloon right no it's leila by colleen hoover which is a book that i've been seeing everywhere it's snitch's favorite author we haven't read a colleen hoover book yet supposed to be like very similar to verity which everybody loved so i'm just really excited about that but then we also get a bonus episode in January because we are sitting down our first ever author series we're sitting down inside the inside the redhead studio I'll wear my turtleneck inside the redhead studio we're sitting down with

first-time author Claudia Aschere and we are gonna get we're gonna be asking her the hard questions about her book so you're gonna want to be there for that and it's never too late to become a redhead also I feel like this episode that we just did is like the perfect kind of episode that you can listen to even if you didn't read the book I always give a summary of the book at the beginning of the episode oh that's smart and usually it's like three minutes this summary was like 10 minutes so you'll know the entire book and then you can follow along with the recap yeah you should start doing that for like popular books that are read in high schools so like a lot of high schoolers who don't want to read the books will literally tune into your podcast we should do

like podcast episodes about but it's like not just like you gotta do the invisible case of the dog in the middle of the night uh portrait of dorian gray oh yeah i actually love picture of dorian gray but um the odyssey iliad yeah but also it's like we'll give you the recap but we'll also answer like dbqs as we always do it's like the pencil on the table was a phallic symbol so that we have like opinions to give you so you can raise your hand and be in class and be like inquisitive and hamlet was in love with his mother yeah but we'll have like dana really do all that so you sound really smart that's actually a great idea for a podcast yeah just like shit you need to know in high school no like impress your professor yeah yeah okay well you ready for our

next story that i chose i don't know if you've seen it, and I'm hoping that I'm about to give you some life-changing news. Okay. There is an iCarly revival set. Oh, of course I've heard of it. Sorry, you say everything. Web show hosts keep up with other web show hosts. Set at Paramount Plus with original cast members returning.

I can't get too excited about these Vuboots because, one, we announce them, and I never see the actual content. And, two. And if we do, it's, like, saved by the bell, and they're just, like, being cringy and writing out jokes. Yeah, and then it's, like, the things I never see the actual content. And two. And if we do, it's like saved by the bell and they're just like being cringy and writing bad jokes. And then it's like the things that I actually want to get. The reboots that I'm actually excited about, Hilary Duff, Lizzie McGuire, like never get made.

GCB. Yeah. The whole reboot industry is something that like our generation, millennials, like love and I just couldn't give less of a shit about. Can I tell you what I do love about the reboot industry? Like I love when like it's like iCarly reboot and we get to talk about it on Can I tell you what I do love about the reboot industry? Like, I love when, like, it's like, iCarly reboot. And we get to talk about it on the show. And we get so excited the cast is coming back.

And then I never want to pick it up ever again. Ever. You know, I do like the, like, think, just the announcing part of, like, what shows are coming back. But, like, I just know what this is going to be. It's going to be the cast, like, sitting around on Zoom laughing about old jokes. Like, I just, I'm not interested. I'm not. Now, here's what I actually am interested in

as it pertains to the iCarly reunion. The involvement of one Dan Schneider. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not seeing his name in this article. Okay. But I'm very curious about that as well. They're saying that the original series stars

Miranda Cosgrove, Jerry Trainor, and Nathan Kress are all set to appear in the new version of the series. Wait, what about Jeanette McCurdy? They didn't say Jeanette McCurdy. Okay, because Jeanette McCurdy is very vocal online about kind of the traumatizing experiences she had as a child actor and as it

pertains to certain producers within the network. So that's actually crazy that she's not going to be there because she's, honestly, after Miranda Cosgrove, she's the most important like and relevant main character. For sure. I also feel like iCarly was so ahead of its time, like girl with a web show. Yeah.

And now it's like if there's an iCarly in 2020, like there's a million iCarlys. Like she's an influencer. We are all iCarly. Yeah. She's a YouTuber. She might have a podcast. And it's like, are they really going to delve into the like it would be actually be an interesting show if it was a show about, like, an influencer.

Yeah, TV has, like, many a time tried to, like, Emily in Paris, like, tried to capture the life of, like, a social media star. And it's never not cringy. And I would actually be really interested to see it one time. Not iCarly, but just, like, one time it be done correctly. Because it actually is, like, especially people who are, like, really like really successful at their jobs and like get amazing opportunities because of their Instagram like it's a super interesting life and if they're one time like they were able to capture it correctly even like with Tana's series on MTV which I didn't watch but I don't think was very good um she has such an interesting life and it became so overproduced like I just one time want to see

like a piece of content whether it's unscripted or or scripted like the life of a social media star like done right yeah i totally agree but it's always cringy like be by hashtag be kind like it's just so lame yeah so we'll keep you probably not posted on this news but just always exciting yes fifth and final story claude sent to me some major tech news. Major biz news. Major tech biz legal news. Time for a little major tech biz legal news. Facebook has been hit with two massive antitrust lawsuits from the FTC and 46 states are seeking to spin off Instagram and WhatsApp. Basically just saying Facebook owning Instagram and WhatsApp is somehow a monopoly. Yeah. Right. That it's too big. So these are antitrust lawsuits. One from the Federal Trade

Commission and the other one from 48 state attorneys general. Both lawsuits revolve around the company's acquisitions of Instagram in 2012 and WhatsApp in 2014 which at the time got regulatory approval but have recently come under heavy scrutiny as people are saying like Facebook is too big. And I guess one way to just like make it smaller is to take away those things. Okay. So here are my thoughts as a consumer and just like someone who operates in the digital space, like Facebook owning WhatsApp is so irrelevant. Like I just have to say like that is not a monopoly. Not my problem. WhatsApp is a messaging app, but it's not a social media platform. It's an internet, like it's just, it's so irrelevant to this conversation.

The real conversation is like, is Facebook owning Instagram a monopoly? And I just feel like at the time of the sale, someone should have objected. And the fact that they didn't, it's like, I don't know. I feel like I believe in the rules. Like they got approved. Like they should just be able to stay. You know what I mean? Yeah.

That's like annoying for like someone to like let you like do a certain thing and then take it, change your mind. And yeah no backsies no backsies Facebook yeah no no back to FTC what's actually crazy is that I think if you look into it like the WhatsApp acquisition is actually a much bigger deal really than Instagram yeah but just like in our world we're like irrelevant irrelevant um and like Instagram feels so big to us whereas like Instagram compared to Facebook is actually like kind of small yeah um and like instagram feels so big to us whereas like instagram compared to facebook is actually like kind of small yeah um and i i think it's really interesting i think we're at an interesting place in the technology slash government landscape and i and what happens

here will will really determine like how things go things go forever. Ever. Forevermore. Yes. Wait, also, though, like, now that I think about it, Facebook owning Instagram, like, okay, is definitely a conglomerate. But I don't think I would consider it a monopoly, given, like, the fact that there are a few other, like, big social media players, like TikTok, Twitter. Like, it's not like they're the only two apps that are popular. Google YouTube. Google YouTube.

Right. So why is google owning youtube okay but facebook owning instagram is not i mean this is what i'm saying like this could be you know something if if it's taken away from them then maybe google and youtube could be next yeah that's interesting it'll be interesting to watch this play out i gotta go home and turn on smbc and then also it's like so if instagram is no longer part of facebook like will it go back to just being like a photo sharing app and they'll stop trying to sell us everything and they'll remove shops from the bottom like you know they just got like

so crazy and that's a Facebook effect no you're 100% right non-chronological timeline I don't know her uh algorithm Instagram shop even though I love using the feature on our morning toast shop if you're looking for morning toast merch head over shopmorningtoast.com. Hate the feature. Hate. Like every fourth post ad, that's a Facebook feature. Yeah. But I also feel like Instagram became like a major platform

because of Facebook's influence. Yes. You know? And so all the things that annoy us, I guess also contributed to its massive success. Yeah. Every time they change shit up,

it's like so annoying for us, but it always in the long run, it sounds like really big brother like knows what they're doing you know yeah but also we just like probably become accustomed to whatever change it is even if it's not like most beneficial because we're addicted to these platforms right that's like apple like with all their new products like it's so annoying but like in the end it's such a good product that actually feels like technology advancement like they are you know what i mean yes yes yes um okay well those were the fast five and i feel like they were quite robust so you definitely needed to know them you needed to know them I'm not gonna lie some days you really

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