The Toast - Turdy Lou Murdaugh: Thursday, March 2nd, 2023
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Good morning, Millennials!
Welcome back to The Toast.
Happy Thursday.
Hope everyone's having a blessed, blessed day.
Hey, Jax.
How are you doing?
I'm doing good.
Thank you so much.
Excited that it's Thursday as we descend into the weekend.
Into madness!
We prepare for landing, seat backs up, and tray tables stored.
Turdy Lou.
Stowed.
They could be stored as well.
You could store them away in the stow.
The proper term, you know, I'm kind of like really good friends with the points guy.
The proper term is stowed.
Okay, well you could stow.
How about we stow you?
Bitch.
How about we stow the turd?
Somebody woke up a little fiery today.
No, not at all. I woke up extremely relaxed.
You did?
Had a lovely morning. I'm looking gorgeous today.
You are.
So really, no complaints. I got a new sweater.
Big, big times.
And you know I love my sweatshirts. So I'm feeling good.
I'm so glad.
How is, how's the belly?
Belly's good.
Belly is bellying.
Belly's gonna belly.
I can't say belly now without thinking of that movie.
The Summers.
I Turn Pretty.
Oh, the TV show.
Yeah, her name was Belly.
That was a...
Plot hole.
It was a plot hole.
I mean, it's from the book and
it's really a nickname that could only be given to someone who's naturally thin and who's never
struggled with body image or weight I don't think a person like that really exists but
it's fiction so we suspend disbelief yeah so other than that all good here redheads drop this
morning so it really has been a relaxing exciting
morning you know our passions bearing fruit everyone getting to listen to the episode it's
such a great episode because it's a crazy good book that is billed as a great book for book clubs
and you're probably like what does that mean why like there's it's so ripe for discussion like
so many different philosophical questions are asked love that love that and even if you didn't
read the book or not,
if you're not going to read the book, like you could still listen to the episode because the premise I could sum up in one minute. And then it's a question of what would you do?
Well, I heard the redheads hit 70K on Instagram, which is like kind of like a really big deal.
I know it really, really is like we are just growing, growing, growing.
And it's really been so organic. I was saying on on the show like it's not like we've had a viral redheads moment like oh my god those crazy redheads um
it's word of mouth word of mouth good hard work consistency yeah you the redheads are very
consistent it it pays off this was our 40th episode, 40 books. If you, I actually don't
know if there's anyone who's read all 40 books. Cause I did a call out. I posted all 40 books
recently because they're on my bookshelf. And I said, how many have you read? And I, aside from
the people who host the show, I didn't see anybody who were 40 for 40. Wow. It's a challenge. The
redheads challenge. Hashtag hashtag the redheads challenge. Yeah. First one to complete.
Gets a personalized video from all the Redheads.
So cute.
So sweet.
How about that?
Sweepstakes giveaway.
Sweepstakes giveaway.
Okay.
But how do you prove that you read them all?
You know what?
I think we have to go by the honor system.
And we are an honor system.
Like there's never going to, I don't want to jinx anything, but I don't think there's
going to be trees in this activity within the redheads community like we're just not that
kind of community no but you know what is that kind of community Hampton South Carolina where
the Murdoch murders took place where no no you don't have to take your things off but like bitch
it's happening right now but either keep up either keep up or don't I'm not listening to you because
I have managed to evade
every single morsel of information about this trial.
I think the jury is out right now, literally.
If they came with a verdict, I don't know yet.
Like I don't know anything.
So I want to keep not knowing
just in case I decide to dive in.
So if you would like to speak on it,
let me know so I could take my headphones off.
Okay, I'm not not gonna I'm gonna say
just one thing and I didn't even it's just full of information um I watched a trial yesterday and
then I watched um Nancy Grace Nancy Grace has been like at the forefront of this trial she has like
her own show where like during lunch breaks my god she is so funny like she could sensationalize
anything right before they got back from lunch she had literally a six-person panel they were My God, she is so funny. Like she could sensationalize anything.
Right before they got back from lunch,
she had literally a six-person panel.
They were talking at first like about interesting stuff.
But you know, the lunch break is long
and eventually you run out of shit to talk about.
She's talking about how she was walking
through the back entrance
and she saw the bailiff bringing lunch to the jurors
and it was lasagna.
And carbs can make people very tired middle of
the day. That's a heavy lunch. And what does that mean for how the prosecution is going to open back
up after lunch? And I was like, I honestly only respect for my queen, Nancy Grace, like talk about
understanding your job. Like your job is to talk. Your job is to look into everything.
Your job is to make things interesting that might not be interesting, i.e. lasagna. And I just wanted
to say respect for what Nancy Grace is doing out here. I have respect as well, but like that is a
suspiciously heavy lunch. Lasagna is not a lunch. Nancy Grace thought so as well. Someone's trying
to tire out the jurors. I think she's onto something. No, the thing about Nancy Grace thought so as well. Someone's trying to tire out the jurors. I think she's onto
something. No the thing about Nancy Grace is like she doesn't see things the way we see things. Like
me and Nancy Grace could spend the day together and then I would recount how the day went
and Nancy would recount how the day went and you would be describing two different days.
She's very perceptive. She is perceptive but I would say you're perceptive too turdy but she
also really did like invent like the sensationalist trial vibe like you know ever since the 90s she's
been like hunting down you know murderers and her headline news show she's kind of like an icon I
feel like people don't talk about her enough and until you watch her like except there was one
thing that was really bothering me and she I believe
is southern so many people who are involved in this are southern um and to be honest like people
don't talk enough about the language barrier barrier between southerners and non-southerners
because they kept saying jurors and I'm like what is jurors and then I was like I think they're
saying jurors I kind of like jurors better you You know what? Because jurors is not a word.
No, totally.
But I was like, what is a juror?
And everyone on the panel, everyone on the panel that she hosted during the lunch break
was Southern.
So they all kept saying jurors.
I'm like, is that a person for the case who I'm not familiar with?
I love that.
The rural juror.
All of a sudden, it's not such a mouthful.
Right, right.
These are rural Girards, no?
Yeah, well, there are parts of the town that are really rural, like Moselle, where the shooting took place.
It's like a 2,000-acre farm.
That's been sold, actually.
Yeah, I didn't know those things, that there was a farm,
there was a shooting, and it's been sold.
So thankfully, you haven't spoiled anything for me.
No, this isn't a spoiler either, but I did just find out through our family chat.
Our family chat has been really lit up about this.
The Daily Mail sent an article.
Moselle, this farm that's like, you know, belongs to the family and everyone in the documentary was like, you know, it's their farm.
It's been in their farm for years, yada, yada.
Literally, like, they've only owned it for like a little while
and it's a little while like a couple of years and like before this whole thing happened and
they didn't even buy it like somebody gave it to them it was like a trade it was like really shady
that doesn't sound shady that sounds more um you don't just get a 2,000 acre farm like in a deal
I guess when you're dealing with shady people everything is shady but that kind of like I've actually heard of that happening where like people like trade properties like if
you have no it was like for like a thousand dollars like it was like a really little amount
and I feel like okay maybe shit like that happened a hundred years ago and his family was in the town
a hundred years ago like a crazy story my granddaddy lost a bed and gave up you know like
I could see that but not like eight years ago you know oh that's interesting there's just a lot of interesting things uh yeah I
literally don't know anything I how many episodes is the Netflix doc three just watch it and they're
all under an hour I've been so busy this week I think this is like my eighth podcast of the week
I not only had to record the redheads I had to edit the redheads which you know I take very personally so you're just not prioritizing the toast noted
yeah no this week the toast has fallen by the wayside I didn't give it all I didn't give it
all to the patreon this week I didn't give it all to the show you're right turdy Lou
turdy Lou you're right we sound like characters in the martin roddell trial why don't you go down to
the courthouse say hi y'all i'm turd and lou no literally everyone has like a really southern
name like reggie like they all have like really long like row row paul paul they all have i'm
turd and lou who you are turd and lou Murdoch. Even though, even though I literally.
Is that their name?
Murdoch?
Like Richard?
It's spelled.
Rupert?
Okay.
So it's spelled M-U-R-D-O-U-G-H.
So it's technically Murdoch.
I get it.
It's technically Murdoch.
Everyone in the documentary said Murdoch, like literally Richard, Rupert.
I just did the same thing.
I did the same thing.
Rupert's family, but it's spelled differently and it's murdaw turdy loo murdaw here at your service yeah i'm here to
testify i swear to tell the whole truth nothing but the truth so help me god i'm a distant cousin
of the murdaws and i saw some things i did did see some things. And I would love to talk to them
Gerards. So I've been watching the trial and I haven't watched like a lot of trials but I did
watch the Johnny Depp one um and the actual courtroom is so different. This one is so small
and like there's so many people in it and they're sitting on like these wooden church pews like
for hours on end. Oh my god I don't know who would volunteer to go sit there it looks so
like I would get actually a sciatica you need a heating pad well they don't show the jury because
they have to protect their their um identities but I do wonder what kind of chairs the jury's
sitting in because I do think that would make an impact on my decision because if I'm sitting on
yeah if I'm sitting on a wooden chair with like no cushion and I can't bring my own heating pad,
like I'm out.
Yeah.
I'm out.
I'm angry.
I'm volatile.
And that's going to affect my decision in that room.
But in which way?
I'm going to be pissed
and I'm just going to want to get this over with.
Who are you going to be pissed at?
No, I'm going to be wanting to get this over with.
So I'm going to make the decision
that I feel like is going to move the conversation
like majority probably.
And that's why you wouldn't be a good drawer.or no and I feel like I've said this many times and if I ever
do get picked for jury like this will come back to hopefully save me do not pick me for a jury
like I'm extremely emotional I'm extremely biased I really don't like I have preconceived notions
of people I'm very judgmental and I usually let those judgments carry me through. I'm usually right. But I'm just saying, don't fucking pick my ass as a jury, even though like
being picked on a jury like this, while it is torture because it's, you know, months and weeks
on end, you get the opportunities that come your way. Books, interviews, podcasts, money.
It's kind of worth it. Yeah. But I don't want to you know destroy the narrative you've built of
yourself as a horrible juror but you also always see both sides i do i do you might be an ideal
juror oh but like i'm also a curious little cat good and like you can't you can't watch anything
you can't talk to people you can can't watch documentaries. I would actually be the perfect juror for this trial.
I don't know anything.
You would be the perfect juror.
I do wonder.
I'm sure they weren't allowed to, but like if there's a juror who's watched one of the documentaries or saw the TikToks.
Like they're in the OJ case, like they were all locked in hotel rooms because it was so national.
They had no TVs, no phones, no magazines.
It was literally hell. But I think these people go home every night like how can you really trust 15 of your peers not to just
like look at something it's an honor system and it's been that way for hundreds of years so you
have to have faith in people yeah you do and I't. So that's another reason why I shouldn't be a good juror.
And it's also like,
this was a small town that this happened in, right?
Yeah, very. And this is a very big thing.
I think they want to get it right,
like for their town, for their people.
Because if they don't,
then a murderer is on the loose.
If it's not Big Man Murdaugh.
I don't know his name.
Alec.
Well, that's the other thing. It's A-L-E-X. And yeah his name Alec well that's the other thing it's a l e x and they call him Alec
and they actually don't even say Alec they say Alec um I find like the names in this trial to
be the most infuriating part like Alex Murdoch is how it's spelled and everyone's like Alec Murdoch is how it's spelled. And everyone's like, Alec Murdoch. Okay. It's so annoying.
Good to know.
So just like start for real.
Like, let's go.
Okay.
I'm trying.
Turdy Lou.
Chick Chalk.
I will.
Maybe today.
Maybe today.
Well, that's all I got.
Oh, I finished the Lucy score sequel.
Like the highly anticipated sequel to her breakout book
things we never got over the sequel came out like a week ago oh my god what a bad book I was shocked
like first of all I not that you know we know it wasn't the character you wanted to read about
it wasn't but like eventually I feel like with sequels it never is and then because I'm so used
to like the people I got used to in the first book right but then after like 10%, I'm like, they really do make you like them.
I actually ended up really liking both characters.
But my God, like so cliche, so unoriginal and no sex.
Like, come on.
That's what we open these books for.
Like not to be a freak, but like, let's just be honest.
Let's just be honest.
Not for the titillating story.
Right. So it just, I gave it a two out of five and that felt generous it was really and it was long it was just no bueno okay well thank you
for the review oh also should we tell everyone how this might be like our last show because we're
going to be able to retire soon sure Jackie's banking Jackie thinks we're gonna retire this week because to a private island
because I posted a link to my new fruit bowl and I've never and I posted oh the reason why we get
to retire is because um it's an affiliate link but the affiliate link system that I usually use
doesn't have William Sonoma so I said Turdy does the one that you use have William Sonoma and it did so it's Turdy's affiliate link on my page so we're I'm
getting paid so we're Jackie's hard work we're splitting you know whatever comes our way but
like literally oh we are not splitting but like oh we can both retire no for sure the plan was
that you were gonna take the money and then buy my next fruit bowl that I would like again and
we could just keep buying fruit bowls. Right.
It's just like free fruit bowls for everyone.
So I literally got so many clicks all night.
I was updating Claudia with the click count.
And like, I think we can retire soon once the numbers come in.
You're going to start calling me returdy because I'm retired.
Returdia.
Returdia.
I could see you being retired.
Except like.
Same. The irrelevance
I know
it's my biggest fear
I'll do this still
but like maybe
even when you're retired
well that wouldn't be retired
but it's like even if we could retire from the fruit bowl sales
I would rather just like
get a second home you know
yeah of course of course no I don't want to retire I'm too young too sprightly I've got too much energy from the fruit bowl sales, I would rather just like get a second home, you know?
Yeah, of course.
Of course.
No, I don't want to retire.
I'm too young.
Too sprightly.
I've got too much energy, too much to say.
I genuinely enjoy this.
So me too.
Me too.
I think I would be sad if I retired.
I would miss this. So instead, like maybe we'll get like a house in Aspen with our fruit bowl sales.
Oh, wow.
OK, yeah.
I think you're going to sell a few more, but sure.
OK, well, I'll post another link.
Totally separate tangent, but you're just reminding me of something.
So Ben is still gone.
I'm still alone.
And literally being alone is my worst nightmare.
Like I have been filling my days.
That's why I've been reading.
Like I've been really trying to like not get myself to a position where I'm reminded of how alone I am.
But, you know, I took like kind of a turn yesterday where I'm like
starting to enjoy it like I don't know like it's kind of a vibe first of all my house is so fucking
clean it's like when I have a dish I just wash it when I put something away like it's either dirty
or clean like it's been so easy to keep my house clean I've kind of been like loving it I can play
whatever music I want I don't have somebody yapping in my ear about my reading.
And I don't know.
I'm kind of telling Ben,
I'm like,
yeah,
maybe you should stay.
Yeah.
Out of sight,
out of mind.
I'm kind of,
kind of like an independent woman.
I love that for you turd.
Yeah.
I feel like,
like a character in sex in the city,
honestly.
Yeah.
No being alone.
I've always enjoyed it.
And especially when it like means that it's like your space.
And especially in an apartment, like it's all yours.
Do you want to hang on the couch?
Do you want to hang in the bedroom?
You want to go back and forth?
You want to play music throughout the whole place and not have to worry about someone's calls?
Someone's calls.
And I'm married to like the king of calling.
Oh my God.
I can't stand calls in my house.
I know.
Get out with your toxic call energy.
No, Ben is always on calls.
I'm like, I'm understanding like he's running a business.
Like sure, workday calls, I'll always allow.
But he goes out of his way to like make more calls.
Like a text, no, I'll call them.
And then it turns into like a 25 minute conversation.
Always with the calls.
In the car, oh my God, it's infuriating the calls.
The sound of his voice has made me want to seriously rip out my hair.
Ooh.
That's not good.
I know.
So I've just been enjoying my alone time.
I want to update everyone.
That's good.
And how are your cooking adventures going?
Oh, fuck that shit.
I give up.
You should try following a recipe sometime.
Nah.
I had a bowl of cereal last night.
Believe me.
You should do like Home Chef because it literally like has pictures, directions.
It's idiot proof.
It's turdy proof.
It is.
I've done it before.
One of those services.
Like it's definitely idiot proof.
But it just requires planning.
And that's, you know, it's so hard for me.
I'll send you my promo code.
So you could retire.
So I could get another house.
Well, I'm ready to dive in.
Are you?
I am ready, turdy Lou.
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Our first story.
You're going to have to go back down memory lane to Monday night
when we met Josh Popper, the summer house boxing coach,
who is now reportedly dating Madonna.
Yep.
Madonna is reportedly dating her hunky boxing coach,
who's 35 years her junior.
Irrelevant.
What's relevant is that his name is Josh Popper.
And you might recognize him from Monday night's episode of Summer House because he was flirting
with Sam.
He's Sam's boxing coach.
They almost hooked up, but he didn't.
And now I guess he's dating Madonna.
By the way, 35.
Fuck.
That is a lot of years.
Sources told the Daily Mail on Wednesday that Josh has been training one of Madonna's six children
at his gym breadwinners in New York City
days after revealing her new face at the, quote, new face.
I think she posted that, that it was a new face.
At the 2023 Grammy Awards,
the hitmaker shared photos with her suspected new beau
via her Instagram story.
In the since-expired snaps, the singer could be seen cuddling up to her heavily tattooed
sparring partner while pressing her lips against his shoulder and squeezing his bulging bicep.
This is gross for a million reasons, mostly because she's 35 years older than him, and
this is so inappropriate and disgusting.
I kind of, like like don't like Madonna
and she hasn't really made it easy especially because like last time we spoke about her like
I wasn't really alive for like the Madonna glory years so my really only experience as like an
adult with a functioning brain when it comes to Madonna is like her being thirsty and weird and
like kind of gross um and this is just adding to the list of reasons why I'm on a fuck with Madonna.
Like this is really disgusting.
Yeah.
It's exciting like for us who I wouldn't have cared about.
Watched Summer House.
I literally would not have cared one iota
about Madonna's new young boyfriend.
Not only would it not be a story on the show,
but like when I read the headline,
I wouldn't even read it.
I would just like scroll past it.
Scroll, yeah.
But the fact that he was just on Summer House,
like what are the odds?
It's not like he was on two seasons ago,
like literally three days ago, makes it titillating.
No, it's a crazy, bizarre coincidence.
He must be a really good boxing coach.
Like all of his customers just falling in love with him.
So true.
I mean, he's very handsome.
And we said he had really good energy.
Claudia was even saying he should be on Summer House.
Well, now he certainly should. Yeah, I mean,'s very handsome we said he had really good energy Claudia was even saying he should be on summer house well now he certainly should yeah I mean they definitely need uh do you
think some guys do you think Madonna should be on summer house I think she wouldn't say no and
that's the problem currently with Madonna agreed I wish her the best honestly this is extremely bizarre behavior, extremely inappropriate. How old is he?
He is 30, 29.
And she is?
64.
That's fucking gross.
That is disgusting.
Yes.
And imagine if the genders were reversed.
Imagine.
I don't subscribe. Unlike, unfollow, gross were reversed. Imagine.
I don't subscribe.
Unlike, unfollow, gross, bye.
Yep.
Are you ready for our next story, which we do subscribe, we do follow, we do say hello because Stassi Schroeder is pregnant,
expecting her second baby with her husband, Beau,
and we can add another one to the pregnancy crew for 2023.
It's shaping up to be a great year I was so happy
when I heard this like this is so nice and I read her book um where she talked about her first
pregnancy and her first pregnancy was like really during a hard time for her she wasn't really
sharing on social media because she had just gotten fired from the show um she didn't even
get to announce her pregnancy like somebody who knows her leaked it and she said in the book she
didn't know who it was but like that moment was stolen from her um so for
her to be able to do this like on her own time and share her own photos and like document the
journey with her podcast like that's really if I feel like for her it probably feels like a lot of
this these are first time things yeah when I did her podcast we were both not pregnant it was in
like September October we were talking
about like you know she was talking about how she had a hard pregnancy and how like she wasn't
looking for like because it was like that it was also because of COVID that it was very like
isolating that it was like making her not looking forward to doing it again but I was like no now
I'm looking forward to doing all the things that we couldn't do the first time like even just like
wearing a bathing suit I never wore a bathing suit in when I was pregnant with Harry
just because I didn't go anywhere.
You had nowhere to go, yeah.
Yeah, so I hope that like now we can both like enjoy all the things
that we couldn't in the first like restaurant and, you know,
if there's a wedding now.
Experiences.
Yeah, experiences.
Life.
And not just being like in confinement.
Right, which is hard enough, but as a pregnant person can, I'm sure, be like really toxic.
Yeah.
So I'm so happy for her.
Me too.
And it's shaping up to be a great crew.
Also, I forgot to mention on Patreon, Rihanna.
Yeah, okay, so who's the pregnant crew now?
Rihanna, Stassi, me, Raven Gates,Donato Jackie Schimmel Jackie Schimmel um who was I
just about to say oh Whitney Carson from Dancing with the Stars okay random I follow her I like
she's really cute okay um it's a good girl it's a good crew and then a bunch of people just had
babies so it's like i
was following them when i was in my first trimester but like and they were in their last we were
technically pregnant together but only i knew uh and also like let's see what else there who else
right it's still early it's still early the crew could the crew could grow yeah i feel like that
i'm also only talking about influencers really.
Yeah.
But I feel like there are celebrities that we've announced recently are pregnant.
Hmm.
Sophia Grace.
Oh, that's huge for the group.
Huge for the group.
Huge.
That's fucking crazy.
Oh, my God.
Oh, wow. This list is so random.
Oh, Katie Stevens from the bull type how nice how nice ryan lochte's wife love oh my god throwback to ryan lochte living lochte remember that no it
wasn't called living lochte it was living lohan that was the other E! show. Remember when he had a reality show? That was weird.
That was.
Rumor Willis.
Let's go back to Ryan Lochte.
Ryan Lochte was and is so hot.
Yeah, for sure.
And so talented.
Such a hard worker.
Good swimmer.
Yeah.
Good swimmer.
But then he did that weird thing.
Yeah.
I forget the details, but he did something weird.
He was also like. He was a bad boy. He was a bad boy. then he did that weird thing yeah i forget the details but he did something weird he was
also like he was a bad boy he was a bad boy but like he was always being compared to michael
phelps and michael phelps had the what was his scandal he smoked pot yeah like oh who fucking
cares but like ryan lochte's scandal was like kind of way worse he like he behaved badly at a night out and the Olympics,
right?
No,
no.
He went to a gas station and like,
let me just Google it.
Cause I feel like he had like a Jesse Smollett in Rio.
It was Ryan Lochte gas station.
Also Jesse J is pregnant.
Oh yeah.
That's also really nice.
I'm so happy for her.
Me too. Okay so ryan and a
bunch of other swimmers claimed that they were robbed sunday morning while leaving a party in a
taxi um and they were claimed they were robbed by people posing as police officers but the story
varied depending on who was telling it and at one point ryan locked he said a gun was held to his
head but later he said the gun was merely pointed in his direction he also initially claimed that
his taxi had been pulled over only to later say that the robbery had occurred at a gas station
did any of that happen video footage captured over the course of the night shows the swimmers
in various places security camera footage shows the swimmers entering and exiting the gas station
and then leaving in a taxi later security footage shows the swimmers going through a security uh
going through security to enter the Olympic Village.
A Brazilian judge who ordered that the swimmers remain in Rio noted that the group looked surprisingly calm,
given their claim that they had been robbed at gunpoint.
Oh, I think it was like something like they were getting back late and they were going to get in trouble
and they were like drunk and they shouldn't have been.
And so they like came up with this crazy story.
Yeah, but then like they were like it became huge news about three American Olympians in Rio
were held up at gunpoint we have to investigate but they were just like lying yeah that like
wasn't made into as big of a deal as I remember like the Ryan Lochte pot thing Michael Phelps
thank you um but just like throwback to the Ryan Lochte era remember when he beat Michael Phelps
like that rivalry was kind of everything.
So, you know, two all-American swimmers.
I know, but it really like wasn't a rivalry because Michael Phelps is just like.
Better.
The actual GOAT and Ryan Lochte is just like a really, really good swimmer.
Yeah.
And like Ryan Lochte was like a really good swimmer and like also a really hard worker.
And like for like a few years, Michael Phelps went through this phase where like he was like you know a star and he was just like getting by on his talent he was coasting because he's just
like more genetically gifted because he's gifted and like something really sad was like the last
Olympics I watched like leading up to the Olympics where the qualifiers like Ryan Lochte didn't
qualify and he tried so like that was sad that was like Cody Simpson yeah but Cody Simpson wasn't already an Olympian so yeah no but I mean he had his time
it's not sad when it's in the Olympics like I'm ready next summer Paris oh my god a whole year
and a half 24 yeah damn I'm sorry dirty uh I'm ready did we just have a winter olympics must have it in 2020 oh yeah
nobody watched the whole thing nobody watched it was member it was last year uh I think it was in
China they like had to like everything was like fake snow it was like yeah and people didn't want
to support it was not the vibe it was not the vibe it was actually really sad for the olympians who like i know no one tried yeah yeah our next story is kind of crazy kind of crazy kind
of crazy because there's a new show coming out called the idol that is um produced directed by
the creator of euphoria sam levinson and he is being accused of ramping up the sexual content
and nudity of the upcoming HBO drama, The Idol,
and twisting it into a, quote, rape fantasy.
So the Rolling Stone published a very damning piece
about this new show where 13 alleged members
of the series cast and crew spoke out over their discomfort
with the show's new creative direction.
Quote, it was like any rape fantasy that any toxic man would have in the show,
and then the woman comes back for more because it makes her music better,
one production member told the magazine of Sam's version of this new show.
Another source added, it was like, what is this?
What am I reading here?
It was like sexual torture porn.
However, HBO told Page Six that they're pleased with how
production has unfolded since Sam took over the reins of the show quote the creators and the
producers of the idol have been working hard to create one of the HBO's most exciting and
provocative original programs this show stars The Weeknd and Lily Rose Depp the concept is like The
Weeknd is like this wellness guru slash cult leader. And Lily Rose Depp is this rising pop star.
And I guess they have this like fucked up abusive relationship where he like, but I,
this is just from what I've read.
Like, and she keeps like coming back from where I guess she thinks it makes the music
better.
It's like physically abusive.
I think mentally just like when just fucked up shit all of it fucked up shit anyway
so the Rolling Stone published this like piece 13 people speaking out about what they saw about
things that were in the script that actually never were shot but just like fucked up script ideas
okay then The Weeknd posted tweeted um at Rolling Stone like did we make you mad and he put in a
clip from the show where they
fucking trash Rolling Stone right they referenced so he was basically saying your article doesn't
really have merit because you're just mad about what we said about you said and it's like um that
is a really weird coincidence like did they see that and then they were mad or is that just a
coincidence that the art like I think it's I think it's a coincidence and I have to see the show and
like see what they're talking about but there is something to be said about this fucking freak Sam
Levinson and I think it gets really glazed over in euphoria because euphoria is like star-studded
and everyone loves it but it's really there are so many euphoria scenes that are so uncomfortable
especially through the lens when you're thinking about these are like juniors in high school
um and I know that they're technically adults like it's all through the lens when you're thinking about these are like juniors in high school.
And I know that they're technically adults,
so like it's all fine.
But like when we're supposed to be watching this show about high school teenagers,
there's really fucking dark,
sexual, problematic shit.
And this guy, Sam,
is definitely a fucking freak.
And so I'm inclined to believe this article.
Like I really am. Me me too I don't watch
euphoria because I literally watched a few minutes once and it literally made me so like depressed
like for just like the children and the clips that I've seen in like the storylines that like
you talk about in recap it's just like fucked up unnecessary like gratuitous and sexual and the
idea that he's doing another show that's like taking all that to
the next level and with like people who are actually adults um right it's believable I believe
that it's fucked up and um is concerning I believe that I agree too I'm more inclined to side with
Rolling Stone on this one and I don't think like Rolling Stone as a whole would like put together
a piece with 13 witnesses just because like some TV show called them irrelevant, you know?
Yeah.
Also, it's worth mentioning that TMZ published a separate story on Wednesday that called into question the validity of Rolling Stone sources and claimed that none of the 13 people the magazine spoke to had seen the final product of the idol, which I.
Well, they weren't claiming that they did.
They said they saw the script. And they could have seen bits and pieces and not like the show from beginning to end
and had something to say about it so they could be talking about specific scenes and they could
also be talking about just like script ideas and the set vibes but yeah it's also worth mentioning
Lily Rose Depp had glowing things to say about Sam Levinson she never felt so comfortable so
appreciated so this that so
I don't know I feel like a lot of the people that work with him especially the young girls like say
that um and I don't know I just like don't like I have a a weird feeling like I don't I just don't
believe that it's all hunky-dory I have a weird feeling she said this quote Sam is for so many
reasons the best director I have ever worked with.
Never have I felt more supported or respected in a creative space.
My input and opinions more valued.
Working with Sam is a true collaboration in every way.
It matters to him more than anything,
not only what his actors think about the work,
but how we feel performing it.
Yeah.
Okay.
That could also,
that could be true,
but then,
you know,
there's also something to say about
what show the show like euphoria did for alexa demi and sydney sweeney and not cindy because
she was popping off ready but like everyone who was a part of it and i think a lot of people see
that and want that so i don't know maybe this is just me being cynical because she's saying it's
all good but i'm just like not buying it yeah i think this guy is a freak and i think like we all
get so caught up in euphoria,
but like I definitely feel weird watching it.
Like I really do.
Yeah.
I think there's,
there's an appropriateness going on and,
and it's highly likely that he has taken it way too far.
Yeah.
And you know who I really would love to hear from?
Cause I feel like she's the only person who like would say something is
Barbie Ferreira. Cause she's not on the show like would say something is Barbie Ferreira.
Because she's not on the show anymore.
She played Kat the first two seasons.
The second season, she was like barely in it.
And there was like a lot of rumors that her and Sam were like not vibing.
And she was like mad about a lot of stuff that was going down.
And then she left.
And like that's it's the biggest show.
You don't leave.
You know what I mean?
Unless you're scrupled and like you're you have a backbone and you're mad about something I also feel like I would love to
hear from her sometimes I'm sure she doesn't want to get a reputation for being like difficult to
work with whistleblower whatever everyone has glowing things to say about him but I feel like
sometimes what can happen is like someone who is like a really big star even Lily Rose Depp like
has people in her corner is established like she's not someone you
fuck with fuck with or could take advantage of as easily as someone who is needs this show brand
new coming up doesn't know the industry like I feel like two different people on the same show
could have a different experience like based on who they are no you're right like I don't think
anyone would be dumb enough to fuck with Johnny Depp's daughter she's protected you're 100% right like and she's worked for years she's Chanel girl like
yeah she has people and systems in place that protect her and like it's not like it's this
show we're nothing for her yeah and you're right like Barbie Ferreira started out as an influencer
and worked her way up to the fucking Met Gala but it's a different background you're right. Like, Barbie Ferreira started out as an influencer. And worked her way up to the fucking Met Gala.
But it's a different background.
You're right.
So, yeah.
Maybe Zendaya has had a great experience with Sam
because Sam wouldn't dare.
Right.
And, you know, Zendaya just came out.
She renegotiated her contract.
She will be making a million dollars an episode from Euphoria.
An episode.
Wow, good for her.
Mm-hmm.
Anyways. million dollars an episode from euphoria episode wow good for her anyways which is so crazy because like when i watch euphoria i actually don't like her parts her parts are really the dark parts
she's the one who struggles with addiction and like mental health um i like like the silly drama
from high school you stole my boyfriend maddie rue when was this like i that's a part of the
show that I like.
Like, the really dark stuff
I find to be really depressing.
And while it's probably, like,
real for a lot of people,
it honestly makes me depressed.
Yeah, I think that's
the Sam Levinson stuff.
Yeah, no, the Sam Levinson stuff
is, like, the very weird
up close of Sidney Sweeney's nipples
and she's a junior in high school.
Like, it's fucking weird.
Yeah.
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Okay, our next story is news that I find so interesting.
And if you hate royal news and you hate talking about books,
you're going to fucking hate this story.
And that makes me love it.
Sarah Ferguson, Duchess Fergie, has written her new romantic novel.
And apparently she's an established author and she writes historical fiction.
So she is turning the page with her new novel,
A Most Intriguing Lady.
Sarah, whose title is The Duchess of York,
tells people exclusively in this week's issue
about what inspired her to incorporate a detective element
in her new historical fiction novel, Outmarch 7.
So this novel is literally historical fiction to a degree.
It's a book that I would read.
It's about the Duchess of Buccleuch, is one of Queen Victoria's like closest confidants. She's
even in the show Victoria. She's played by Diana Rigg from Game of Thrones. So she's like a real
person. It's about her youngest daughters Lady Mary and Lady Margaret. Her youngest daughter?
Her daughters Lady Mary and Lady Margaret because the duchess of york wants
to write about invisible women in history and that is very much a trend you know people find
like someone who's didn't get the credit they deserve and all of a sudden we're talking about
them so she is just like a historical fiction girly author and i swear i would see this book
on my goodreads and i would read it and i would have no idea that it was written by her i don't
know if she's like uh like i don't know if I would I would literally never in my
life read this book but like if I was debating it I don't know if I could trust her to be like
so unbiased you know she's been in the royal family she's seen it all she's been excommunicated
she literally was exiled from the country I know well she's actually admitting that she said um
not that she's not biased but that the character Lady Mary in his book in her book is her she said um not that she's not biased but that the character lady mary in his
book in her book is her she said i believe that lady mary the real life heroine of her new book
she's so me and i really have explored a whole different side of me through lady mary and so now
i don't worry about someone saying oh are you lady mary my answer is yes you know uh she also
has written a different best-selling novel called her heart for a compass where she again explores the theme of invisible women um and she talks about how she loves historical
romance she said i cry at hallmark you know just mentioning hallmark i could cry i love romance
and i love the beauty of love and joy and magic fergie duchess fergie is like kind of having a
moment in the last few years she's really back in the royal
fold yeah when she was like excommunicated for so long why was she excommunicated because she
got divorced divorced the feet pics yeah yeah yeah just feet pics yeah I think the feet
yeah like some guy was sucking her toes on the beach and paparazzi caught it yeah
and it was like in the 90s kind of freaky
and it was the 90s like now we'd be like get your feet girl yeah get your toes sucked and so she
divorced him well they got divorced all that stuff and did she have to leave the country
I don't know I don't think so okay because also her girls were there she was in an episode of
friends like that is how desperate she got at one point wow she said quote I have been invisible for I don't think so. Oh, okay. Because also her girls were there. She was in an episode of Friends.
Like that is how desperate she got at one point.
Wow.
She said, quote, I have been invisible for my own self for a very long time now.
And so now I'm just beginning to sort of liberate and sort of test the waters, right?
So invisible women for me and a voice from the grave is crucial for me,
which is why I chose this period in history. Because, for example, Lady Margaret and Lady Mary,
all their brothers were written about, but they weren't. So i think my real love is to take on an invisible woman woman from
the grave and say right this is your story how would you like to be told and just to tell it
she also was quoted speaking about the queen glowingly recently and how she really looks up
to her that's sweet which is sweet yeah she having a moment. I'm kind of living for it. Redhead's
got to stick together. Let me see how many pages this book
is and if I would read it
because I feel like I would be more
inclined to read it if I didn't know that she wrote it. You know
what I mean? For sure. Like it'd be a fun fact
you found out afterwards. Totally.
But it would like cloud. 368.
Fair.
Fair. Okay.
I will not be reading it. but you wouldn't this you wouldn't read the best
historical fiction book of the year i actually read a historical fiction book this year which
one woman on fire oh right and you loved it really good really good really good this is
called a most intriguing lady if you do find yourself intrigued by the premise, which I do.
And you,
she might have access to some docs and some actual historical factoids that
us lay people do not.
Perhaps.
Yeah.
So do with that information what you will today,
ladies and gentlemen.
Ladies.
Are you a lady? Uh, that's a good question are you a most intriguing lady
no no no no no but am i a lady it depends who you ask and it depends where i am
in my home no that's okay not even but, I'm not a lady. I'm not.
You are.
Thank you.
But I am not.
I would love to be.
You're not a girl, not yet a woman, not yet a lady.
We'll never be a lady.
Just a turdy.
I'm not a girl.
I'm just a turdy.
Love that.
Yeah.
Our fifth and final story.
I don't even know what to call this news.
It's good news, I guess.
Good news?
No, no, no, not like that.
Oh, okay.
Just like people who have done wrong doing right news.
Oh, I love that.
Is it a redemptive story?
Kind of, because Billy- is redemptive a word
yeah yeah okay billy mcfarland the fire festival creator is out of prison he has been you know out
and about he went on sofia with an f podcast i saw and he's teaming up with andy king the guy he asked
to you know perform fellatio for evian Water in the documentary. Again, and now they're selling cheese sandwiches for a good cause.
Remember the cheese sandwiches?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
What's the cause?
The cause is for the Bahamian workers who didn't get paid over Fyre Festival.
So Fyre Festival creator Billy McFarlane is getting back into the cheese sandwich game.
But don't worry, these won't come in styrofoam
while you're getting screwed out of a concert in the Bahamas.
Sources close to Billy tell TMZ he recently had a reunion for the first time in five years with Andy King. Yes, the guy who says Billy asked him to give oral sex to a
customs officer to get shipments of Evian water released. Seems all is well between them now,
though, because they shot a video together promoting their newest venture, selling grilled
cheeses at 7th Burger in New York City. And the clip is pretty funny. The video features Andy making the sandwiches,
a tongue-in-cheek take on the ridiculous cheese on bread meal served at the doomed Bahamas festival.
He's also taking swigs from Evian water bottles. TMZ is told that 100% of the sales from the April
7th event will go to the workers in the Bahamas who are still owed money from Fyre Fest. They
also tease a Coachella trip in the video, but we're told that hasn't been set in stone yet. That's nice I
mean when you brought this up I was like ready to China like I'm so done talking about fucking
Firefestival like it was so to me it's like so done over and like played out all the jokes and
the memes and the documentaries um but this is nice. And I think like a huge part of this whole saga
was really how terrible it was for the locals
and the natives and the restaurants
and all the people showing up.
And that's really, to me, like, yeah,
the people who bought tickets
and didn't get what they wanted
and were like stranded, that's bad too.
But like the people who live there and work there
and are trying to make a living
and have their home be infiltrated by a bunch of like influencers like that was a huge tragedy as well
and so I appreciate that that they're not being forgotten honestly I do I have respect for this
I do also he's already working on another festival but it will be based in virtual reality this time
it's called PYRT PYRT is that like party like i don't know same letter i think
it's like similar to fire where it's like the only vowel is a y and it's not even a vowel
oh right that was probably where they went wrong most with fire festival spelling it with a y
yeah that's how you knew it was going to be bad doomed doomed so this is pert um I definitely won't be at that one because
I don't do virtual reality that's just like where I jog the line I actually recently found out that
somebody I know like loosely went to fire festival and was a part of like the class action lawsuit
like this person I don't really know them that well but they like refuse to talk about it's like
illegal because they like got. I want to know.
Who?
I'm not going to say it. I know, but, like, give me a clue.
Influencer, layperson, high school friend, Ben's friend.
I'm not going to say it.
I'm not going to say it.
I'm not going to say it.
I'll tell you after.
Because they're, like, really weird about it.
Interesting.
I mean, I'd be weird about it, too.
I'd be embarrassed.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I got conned.
Unless, yeah, unless they could parlay that into documentary fame and followers.
Right, right, right.
Like a few of the influencers who went all in,
and they actually had a good experience, like Helen Owen.
Did she go?
I believe so.
Oh my, that's so embarrassing.
I don't know if she was in the documentary.
I just feel like I remember seeing her there.
Her there.
And they actually got a villa and it was fine that's what
some people yeah of course that's why people that's why people hate influencers like eat the
rich like oh I'm here in my villa I'm fine yeah but like the whole everyone who went to the
festival like it was an expensive festival there like you know it just kind of true was you rolled
the dice as to who actually got a house and who got a tent and who got a cheese sandwich
that was such a crazy time like when it was all happening in real time before the documentary You roll the dice as to who actually got a house and who got a tent and who got a cheese sandwich.
That was such a crazy time.
Like when it was all happening in real time before the documentary came out.
Like, yeah, that was crazy.
That was crazy.
Anyways, those are the fast high stories.
Feel as though you needed to know them.
I am so hungry.
What are you going to have for lunch?
Such a great question, Turdy Lou.
You know when your stomach is so empty and like it's making that sound all the way,
like the sound travels like from your belly to your butt, you know that sound?
It's not a fart.
I did just order groceries.
They should be here imminently.
But is there anything for – Did you get anything good?
Oh, I mean I got some eggs, so I've kind of been wanting to make like –
you're going to vomit, so maybe take your headphones off –
some like hard-boiled eggs and, like, make that into, like,
an egg salad sandwich.
I actually like hard-boiled eggs, but you lost me at egg salad.
No, but I'm not going to put anything.
I'm just going to be, like, mashed up hard-boiled eggs with a little,
close your ears, grape pecan and bread.
No, I'm not grossed out by that.
Like, I know I would never eat it but like I respect it
no it won't be actual egg salad I don't like I don't want mayo or anything I just like eggs and
mustard and bread so I'll put it together it's so it's weird that's not like a normal thing people
eat no that's weird but then it also reminds me like I eat very poorly and like I have a really
limited palate um in terms of like things that I like it's very immature but weirdly like ever
since I was a kid like something I really like there's like a few things like I eat that people
are always shocked to find out like cottage cheese I also really like a hard-boiled egg without the
yellow with like a little fleck of salt I think that's like a nice snack and it's like that's so
toxic diet culture but like I actually like it yeah no it is good if and you wouldn't do this
like a little laughing cow cheese on the inside. Oh, no.
A little caviar.
Ooh.
I can't have caviar right now.
Or I'm also going to make some egg bites because Harry and I tore through the egg bites I made last weekend.
So I got a bunch of eggs.
So I'm going to do egg salad and egg bites.
Wow, in this climate?
I know.
Richie Rich over here.
I splurge because I don't really have a lot of other
protein sources right right it's hard yeah that's true I forgot about that well now with your
affiliate link you should be able to get all the eggs you want we shall see turd will start sending
zillow links later literally um but that's our show first one in a while that's under an hour so
how long were you at? Like 50?
No, I don't got another 10 minutes of things to say.
If we were a few minutes away, I would pontificate about something.
Pontificate.
What does that mean?
To go on and on.
And it was a word that was used a few times in this episode of the Redheads.
And Snitch said, what does that mean?
And we said to go on and on.
I actually learned a new word from this dumb book that I read.
And it's a word that I had heard because it's in the song Illicit Affairs by Taylor Swift.
Mercurial.
And then it was in the book.
I'm like, let me find out what the fuck this bitch means.
You know, it means unpredictable.
Great word.
Adwindling mercurial high.
Add it to the list.
Toast words.
It's a good word.
Mercurial. I would like to start. I feel like my lunch is going to be a little mercurial high. Add it to the list. Toast words of the week. It's a good word. Mercurial.
I would like to start.
I feel like my lunch is going to be a little mercurial, honestly.
Yeah, no.
I feel like my day is going to be like a little mercurial.
Tour de l'eau.
Tour de l'eau.
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