The Toast - TV Recap Sandwich: Monday, April 10th, 2023

Episode Date: April 10, 2023

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Good morning, Millennials, and welcome back to the Toast. Happy Monday, which should be unbelievably disgusting, but it's not because Jax returns to the podcast. Today's audio only Jax Extravaganza is here. Hey, Turdy Lou. Hey, Jax. How are you, turn? I'm good.

Thank you for holding it down for me last week. It's a pleasure. You will be also holding some things down this week. I know you have your schedule ready to go and you're really excited about it. I can't wait to post like back to the maternity days you know. Oh yeah. So I won't be on for the remainder of this week but I wanted to podcast today because I feel up to podcasting and I've been going through some things some personal things that I'm not quite ready to share yet with everyone I will eventually but um I did want to still do an episode and also like address that my absence but I'm just not ready to talk about some stuff but I

will I and you guys you know where to find me um so I won't be podcasting all week because I know Turdi wants to do video. Yeah, you know me and my video. Yeah, she's desperate to be in front of the camera. The IT department does not fuck around at toast. No, it does not. So Claudia is going to be guesting, you know, making the most thirsting, you know, for the podcast, which we love. And I love to be a toaster.

But I did have the bandwidth to podcast today and I really wanted to. And there's so much going on. So it needed to be a toaster. But I did have the bandwidth to podcast today, and I really wanted to. And there's so much going on. I know. So it needed to be original recipe. Listen, Jax, you take your time. Emotionally, physically. You take your time. And just know, Turdy's got you. Thanks.

Turdylujah. So we're just going to do a regular episode today. Thank God Jax is back. So much is going on. Taylor, Joe, Olivia, Christian, the Dalai Lama. Yeah there's a dalai lama didn't make it into the fast five oh shit because you wanted me to choose this turn story about the movie you saw yesterday yes i have a lot of thoughts okay um but we should talk about the dalai lama because he's kind of canceled yeah he issued an apology welcome to the club which is like a crazy thing but then like when you see what he's apologizing for it's like oh maybe you should apologize a little yikes yeah

he was like asking a kid to suck on his tongue i don't know like i can't i don't know even the dalai lama is not sacred i don't know all the details so i'm not going to comment on it but like you just see the video and it seems like enough yeah yeah it's just so your official comment is no comment my official comment is I'm confused and I don't like I don't know what's going on you know yeah yeah no I understand plus I'm not familiar like with the dolly himself and his teachings and maybe like tongue sucking is a big part of his ethos and yeah we it's true to like judge other cultures no for real it could be something like that like you just yeah for sure um moving on actually my only real like I know it's gonna

sound so dumb like I don't really know what the Dalai Lama does like I know he's like a healer and like a spiritual leader um and I what I do know about him I know from the NXIVM documentary because he actually visited NXIVM it was like Keith Raniere the leader too yeah it was like his biggest goal to get the Dalai Lama and he worked all of his celebrity connections and he got the Dalai Lama the Dalai Lama came to Albany I think and it was kind of like the craziest part of the NXIVM documentary like it was bizarre there's always like a weird celebrity yeah like the we were LaRoe one member they had um Katyry did they like oh she performed at their concert yeah yeah also um the we work one they had like a gwyneth paltrow and ashton kutcher cameo for some weird

i think the wife is gwyneth's cousin yeah yeah i've been watching gwyneth on shark tank a little bit i watched well we watched that one episode together yeah was there another one diapers yeah what were they called kudos kudos diapers they're good my overall review was good don't take your kids swimming in them because it exploded like there was like like i didn't even know what's on the inside of a diaper no it's like beads yeah it just got like too saturated okay but you should use swim diapers anyway if you're swimming whatever um overall and i would size up in them that's all i would say but the material is good there was another episode with gwen there another episode with Gwen yeah we're like on a nickname basis and she invested in an interesting product was the ashes no oh I saw something about like a

company that um like helps deliver your ashes in a more humane way because usually they just arrive in like a clear trash bag um that wasn't from our deer toasters no I know I was thinking about deer toasters no it's similar ish it's a company that freeze dries your breast milk so usually breast milk in the freezer lasts like from six months to a year and it starts losing nutritional value after three months but you can send it to this company they'll freeze dry it and then it becomes like this powder and you can use it for up to three years like putting it with water in a bottle or even like sprinkling it like nutritional yeast over your toddler's food and they get like the benefits of breast milk for years to come oh that's interesting it was interesting it's very complex yeah I don't think it's gonna be the next

big thing I don't who do you think is the most successful. Guest shark. In terms of investments they made on Shark Tank. Not like famous before. Probably Turney Lou Freebush. Yeah. I loved her episodes. I wish she would bring her back.

Yeah. She was like really polarizing though. Yeah. No. She had like a really kind of smart business acumen. Yeah. She did. Speaking of TV recap. We have a lot to recap today.

We have so much to recap. Because you are caught up. And I've been watching Love is Blind. Oh my God. I know it's like taking the world by storm. So I wanted to watch it because it seemed like an actually good season. And it was good until a point. My God, they drag everything out. And we watch the same people have the same conversations.

Just one time they're doing wedding dress shopping. And one time they're doing a boudoir photo shoot. No, and also it's like ordinary people are just not that interesting and I don't want to hear you guys have a conversation about ranking your favorite fruits like that's not compelling to me and I know she's polarizing but like where's Irina I know she disappeared well she's irrelevant now to the show but they're like there are people who aren't in relationships who are invited to like the cast parties and stuff because they're still a part of like the plot like that guy Josh and you know Irina has beef with Micah she likes Paul and then

she has an ex she's actually like really tangled in the web yeah like production should be inviting her around yeah just to start stuff no I thought the season was going to be good like the couples that emerged were good but then we go into this weird holding period where it's like I have no idea what these people actually think and feel if they really do plan on getting married or now they're acting for us just to get to the wedding just to make a big speech about how I'm choosing me. Yeah well okay so that's the thing with Love is Blind and why it was so great the first time is that nobody knew it was going to be on Netflix. People really just were like doing it for an experiment, not to get famous.

And like the show didn't have this cult following. So it was just people who were like actually really down to try something new. And they also, they concentrated in the Atlanta area. And I just feel like people from Atlanta are just like, I don't know, like funny and like worldly. And it was just good. The Seattle.

We're definitely getting a lot of Seattle. Yeah, yeah, no. And a lot of Seattle energy. This is so not like a knock on Seattle. it's a beautiful very toasty city but like there's definitely like a culture there where everyone's like a little weird and granola-y and no like the conversations that Paul and Zach have yeah I knew you were gonna say that wouldn't happen in any other city no so it's just like I only I feel like and this is the longest season I couldn't believe that I was watching episode 12 and weren't even at a wedding yet like so it's just a lot of content for like a

group of people that I just don't think are like that interesting especially once they go home and they're all working like it's always interesting in the pods and then on vacation like they're having sex for the first time now at home like it's just it's just sad I do agree and who from the season were people saying that you look like oh shut up I wish why did you bring that up because I'm trying I remember you showed me a video of her yeah but I was at Irina because she was apologizing for being insensitive yeah it was Irina and they think that you look like Irina yeah they think I look like Irina when actually the only thing me and Irina have in common is we both apologize for being insensitive no like I don't I don't think you look like Irina honestly like there I'm not even gonna say it there's someone else that I thought that maybe people were saying that you

looked like Amber yeah yeah well just because she's chubby and brunette that's like my whole thing just brunette no like seriously you're like not really chubby anywhere you're gonna have to like shed this I was just talking to I think it was Remy about that like I made a joke my whole sense of humor my whole sense of self yep is about like being fat and my whole sense of humor I just I don't know what I'm gonna do you guys are gonna have to deal with it like for a little bit longer until I can shed it no we will but can I keep you in check no no no okay because I'm no no no let me just finish when you're coming for me, accusing me of only saying something because you're chubby?

Yes, yes, yes, yes. Okay, so I can defend myself. I feel like it's so important to understand how being chubby and being fat is a state of mind. Of course, yes, it's a physical being. Quite literally, it's definition. But when you've spent so much of your life being overweight, it's who you are on the inside, honestly. I do understand that and that's why

I tend to gravitate more towards people who are fat or who have struggled with their weight because it's just it's a personality trait yeah and I honestly I don't trust people who have never struggled with their weight no what is that what do you think about what do you do like it's so you wake up in the morning then what and like you just eat when you're hungry and you stop when you're not and when you're ordering from a menu it's just like whatever you're in the mood for yeah no I I really can't relate to that sort of toxic mindset no me neither so thus proving my point that weight is it's just ironic because weight is literally a physical thing but it's so mental it's so emotional yeah no that part I do understand okay I feel like I'm in that same boat.

But I'm just saying, if you're going to accuse me of fat phobia, I'm going to come back swinging. Yeah, no. I mean, you're definitely fat phobic. But not in this particular instance. So I'll let you have this one. It's a case-by-case situation. So wait, so back to Love is Blind.

And we're going to do a full tv recap at the end with succession but i just want to talk about love is why now because it consumed my whole fucking weekend the tv recap of it yes this is the recap of love is mine okay so there'll be it's like today's episode is a sandwich a tv recap sandwich and that's our title obviously okay great i love when we just like check things off our list someone write it down so in terms of the couples that we currently have let's like go through who you think is going to make it who you think is cute of course like there's always one couple in shoe in it was you know uh who was it the first oh Lauren Speed Hamilton and Cameron Hamilton it is obviously Brett and Tiffany they're so well

matched I think she thought she was gonna have a really hard time because she was one of the older girls but being older on this show sets you up for more success you know thyself you're not immature like Irina you've probably seen some things to the point where whatever that person looks like like you know that it's so insignificant and you're not immature to be like so fixated on looks yeah he thankfully he's also extremely handsome and she's very pretty and she's very pretty and they're very suited suited for one another emotionally, psychologically. I know. And also on a physical level, like they are a match.

Yeah. And I also liked when I found out that they hadn't had sex in a lot of the other couples stayed in Mexico. I was like, oh my God, we had trouble in paradise. But she was on her period. I like that she shared that. Yeah. It was important content.

And then they did have sex. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think they're not even a question for me. No, they're not even a question for me no they're not even a question for me he reminds me so much of Zach like some when your husband yeah not his personality but when he was showing her his apartment and all of his knickknacks and his sneakers and how he has the paper towel holder and it's like a magnet like I was literally having flashbacks to seeing Zach's apartment for the first time Jackie I totally forgot how I thought the same thing because he's obviously like a guy who likes like gadget gadgets and gizmos aplenty. He's got who's its

and what's its galore. He's just like a techie guy with the VR thing and you know his alarm clock is like definitely really weird. Like yeah that's so your husband. He like loves a gadget. And like Zach we've been watching together he thinks Brett is sick. Like yeah okay. And when I said like this is literally you he's like that is a compliment. No a hundred percent and he's like financially stable. I did think like I what I really liked about the first season of Love is Blind is they went really deep on people's financials because it's so important yeah but we got like actual figures they're being a little bit more vague this time but there I think there is like a discrepancy between how Tiffany lives and how Brett lives and I wish they would just like dive in a little deep because she

just appears like salty like bougie Brett bougie brat yeah but I feel like in terms of how much money they make they're probably on a similar playing field like it's just about uh philosophy of how you spend your money yeah but it's also like she had a roommate and he didn't you know like so there I feel like there actually is like a an imbalance okay that's which is fine like it's never gonna be i'd like to hear about it more apples to apples and he said like he'll pay 70 60 40 obsessed 80 20 as he should king um next couple who and by the way if they don't get married like i'm done with this show because then i'm just watching fraudulence i agree i agree the next couple and i know you didn't finish but we got to the wedding of chelsea and kwame i think so i didn't watch the last three episodes please spoil them i don't care when i realized last night that i wasn't caught up and that I had three more like I just wanted to cry

like I've been powering through and it's so bad right now it no it's a major lull like it's just so repetitive so we got to Chelsea and Kwame's wedding Chelsea said yes and now we're waiting for Kwame they did like a cliffhanger I do not think he's gonna say yes but there's one thing that's bothering me about it because to me Kwame's so here like for the show like I just get that vibe from him he doesn't want to move he's very settled in his life and also this moving question is not supposed to be an issue on love is blind like you go to a certain city yes and I understand that Portland and Seattle are close to each other but there's a reason why they go to like a city so that this isn't an issue so that they

avoid it yeah because it's hard to make your like to uproot your life so um the only thing that's like making me question Kwame like maybe saying yes I don't know if you've noticed Chelsea's ring no it's huge and all the other girls like have pretty much the same ring it's like a very generic dating show like Neil Lane vibe um and I read somewhere that production of course pays for the rings but the guys can choose to pay for like an upgrade themselves and her ring appears to be so big making me think like Kwame was like certain well when he proposed he was certain if he only became uncertain like you know over the last few weeks and when he saw Micah like I guess and maybe it And maybe it's moist night. Maybe it's moist night. That's true.

But it's still, like, you'd have to pay for that. Like, it just, it's interesting to me. That is interesting. Yeah, just a little fun fact that I. That you observed. I was just, like, nitpicking because at the bachelorette party, she showed her ring to her friends because she was, like, wasted. And I was like, oh, my God, none of the other girls' rings look like that.

Yeah, I think that they are a really good match. But I just don't know if Kwame's look like wants to be settled married and when they were talking about like having kids and how overwhelming that was they were talking about like going to Cabo and laying out I'm like you shouldn't be worrying about that like right now it looks like you're looking for an excuse. An issue even though like these are just people who are a little bit older so you do have to actually think about that. Yeah but it's like that should excite you if you are older and that's what you want and that's why you came on this fucking show you know I'm telling you I think he came on the show like for fun he gives me that kind of Bartice energy like I didn't watch that

season well you didn't miss anything but um I don't I'm gonna um if we're guessing I would be shocked if they got married because like it seems like they like each other they They're having fun, but it's a little too serious to like actually get married between them. I think she's obsessed with him and he like is so annoyed by her. That's my vibe. Yeah. People were saying like,

I saw people's stories like ruining it for me, saying like that Kwame is like not that into Chelsea. I haven't gotten there yet. Like I feel like he's actually been, they've been having a good time, but I could see him getting annoyed by her I could I also I do like how he stays home with the dog all day I know it's like kind of an ideal setup yeah um okay next couple let's go to Micah and Paul I like cannot get a read on them and I know Micah

was like very close to becoming um a major villain just because of like her friendship with Irene and she like was being like a little bit of a bitch in the pods but yeah um yeah she like subverted everyone like her and Kwame like should have been together and then her and Paul like just made this pact and yeah and then she was like acting like a heartlet like in Mexico in Mexico when she was flirting up a storm with Kwame she was they were blackout like it was wrong it was wrong but she saved herself like her break from Irina and then her um actually like I think her and Paul are cute I think her and Paul are cute but I can't get a read on them and I do feel like it could be a big no yeah and she's just going through the

motions I also don't know if like people who are so different can actually be like a match he's so like even when they were talking about his apartment like he's so granola he's like a lot of the girls I dated like garden and wear overalls and like wear granola and she's like very like glamour when you saw her friends looks like girls like we would know you know yeah just like very kind of different for sure one opposites attract yeah two she is his mother oh my god she is his mother I thought that was the craziest scene yeah and so maybe like you know they say like boys like marry their mom so maybe like subconsciously that's what he's been looking for yeah but I could see I could see her saying no to him because like she just is not that into him I could also see him saying no to her because he just doesn't seem into anything he's

just like mute yeah and monotone but I thought that scene with the friends was really crazy and the friends were the friend was wrong the friend was being crazy the friend was blackout and the friend also just like wanted to like start stuff on tv like i didn't think i didn't have put any substance or weight into the what her thoughts were at the time it was like causing an issue between micah and paul and i thought michael handled it poorly because the friend like paul didn't do anything other than just be boring yeah what he was saying and the friend calls him out for being long-winded like that's fucking rude she was so rude we just met she was so rude micah should have defended her man and that was like a bad look for everyone except for Paul yeah but now like Paul's stewing somewhere Paul's stewing in the corner with his beer I don't

think they'll get married me neither I just don't see it as like a true like love match yeah I agree um then we have Zach especially when they're both like you know thinking about the person they left behind except then when Paul saw Amber he had the perfect reaction which was putting it to bed yeah but no I know it's just like what nothing say it like I think it's easy to put that former connection to bed when like physically you're more attracted to the person that you chose oh yeah like at that point like the superficial elements take over yeah because you're out of the pods like you're out of that headspace emotionally you already chose this number one person but if the other person then physically would be more your type then you're in a pickle like I feel like that's where Micah is with Kwame and Paul yeah yeah because they're really equally cute right but

Paul doesn't feel that way and also it's so crazy how it's so much about type because I would say all these people for the most part are on equal levels of attractiveness uh yes with the exception I think of Paul who's probably the hottest that's so crazy that you think that because I don't really think that and also like of the girls I will I think the girls are all really attractive but it's just about type like I think Jackie is so stunning me too but I think anyone who who matched with her like would have been so she's thrilled she's literally she's not well okay we'll talk about her because I also didn't see her um her crumbling okay well let's talk about her and Marshall then wait wait but I was just saying something about the attractiveness the plot twist of the entire show was the reveal between Zach and Irina yeah and not to be rude but I really was just like thinking when Zach saw Irina like that he might not be obsessed and the fact that it was the

complete opposite no like I'm that that he wasn't cute enough for her. And then I started looking at him different because she was like saying all this mean stuff about him that he's a cartoon. When he was in the pods, like I thought he was totally fine. Okay, so I would say like physically, just like physical attributes, he's definitely a good looking guy. But it's his manner. It's his mannerisms.

It's the way he talks, the way he stares. And like honestly, a lot of the stuff that Irina was saying, which so rude wasn't wrong like he does have like serial killer vibes and when she said cartoon I know everyone is like cartoon I actually think she misspoke because she then she kept repeating herself and she kept saying fictional character being like oh you remind me of someone from a movie and yeah he is a property brother like that's what she was thinking at the time so I don't think that that was her intention but it definitely came came out poorly. But yes, I know what you're saying. Like on a physical level, like out of the two of them, I think a lot of people would consider Zach quote better looking.

And she was the one who had a problem with it. So we must have been really fucking weird in real life. So it's just it's crazy how it's just so much about taste and not even what the person looks like. And it is about mannerisms. And I'm also starting to doubt the process because I was like thinking about if I were in the pods and like some of the things you have to talk about and it's like I wouldn't open up to a wall like that I can't see the person on the other side like what if they're just like

and even when in some of the conversations like some of the people who were talking like one person's opening up and the other person's like fidgeting with something yeah if you were fucking fidgeting with something while I'm opening up about something like I I wouldn't have feel warmly towards you like yes but I think also you would never open up to a wall but I think maybe actually a lot of people would it's like much less scary no I know but I feel like then you're not falling in love with the person on the other side of the wall you're kind of just falling in love with the way that they react to what you're saying yeah that's true it's you know I feel like it's without Without seeing someone's mannerisms. Like it's not just about like.

We have an emotional connection. And will that take us through. Like. It's like. We liked what the other person said. But then there's a million other things. That come into play. Like demeanor.

Yeah. Mannerisms. Yeah. Faces that you make. You know. Body language. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay wait. So let's go. Okay. Keep going with a couple. So now that we're on Zach and Irina. Zach and Bliss. Which like Jackie when they were in Mexico and Jackie was like wow Bliss dodged a bullet good for her I actually don't think I've ever had less respect for anyone than Bliss like not only did she take back a guy who chose someone else for her and really chose someone who was like and she was not wrong when she said like I would definitely think different of you like you chose Irina like I know Irina just

like you do and she's not like a great person so she knows that about him she was second fiddle she took him back went on a date with him and she had absolutely no obligation to like pretend to like him like you know a lot of people do and then she accepts his proposal on the boat when they clearly have no chemistry it was so fucking weird I didn't see it that way oh I did it looked like Loserville oh I feel like for whatever reason like she really likes him and when they saw each other like it was a a mutual attraction and like I think Bliss just really wants to be like a wife and a mom and to set and Zach wants those things too and when two people want something so badly like you can make it work from there like do you think they'll get married I don't know I'm literally like where I am they are one episode in the back like you know

what I mean right okay so they get engaged they meet her parent his family oh no his he doesn't like have family yeah her family um her mom is fine and then her dad comes with his stepmom and he's like so against it it's like really awkward and contentious okay I really like these parents we need to put more respect on their names because the idea I just kept being like to Zach like if Harry came home and said I'm engaged to this girl from television after two weeks like I would call the police of course and best case scenario is you're wrong yeah but most likely you're not yeah and so I but also it's like you're on a tv show you don't want to come off as like you know the big bad parents so you kind of just have to like let your but I

actually really liked Micah's parents reaction they were like obviously not here for this but they're like we know our daughter yeah and I feel like if you if you trust trust your child then just let them see this through because here's the thing at worst they're not going to get together like they're going to have their heart broken. Right, right. At best, they're going to get married. And, like, a lot of these people are older and really want to be married. And it's like, okay, it's not conventional, but.

It's something. And it's not like there have been no people who have actually been successfully married. There have actually been, like, three or four couples who are totally married. Yeah. And, like, really married. Amber, Barnett, Lauren, and Cameron. Who else? So I guess it would just be like i feel like i could maybe get over the the process of you know the experiment i it would

just depend on the person that my child brought home yeah yeah but it's also hard to you know judge that immediately and then if you do judge the person based on like what they're giving you then um you're kind of like an asshole judgmental, you know? 100%. And then the final couple is... Anyways, what I'm saying is the parents are in an impossible position. Yeah, of course, of course. But you also just like for TV, like want to just come off normal

and like, yeah, this is great. And then text your kid like, what the fuck are you doing? You know? But then the kid goes to the camera and my parents aren't here. I know, by the way, what nerve. Like Kwame's mom is not coming yeah and I understand that of course and she's also really mad because she wanted him to marry someone of similar background and like Chelsea's you know not and that's a tough conversation to

have I'm sure she doesn't want to fucking explain why she wants her son to marry someone from the same background like that's that's fair honestly yeah that is fair um and then Jackie and Mark and Marshall so what ends up happening is that Jackie and Marshall break up she goes on a date with Josh actually before she breaks up with Marshall that's what that's what the camera showed happen she then said she went on a date with him after okay but when she yeah I don't care but when she sits down with Marshall she's like I just saw Josh so whatever um but everyone's like quaking over they had this kind of contentious conversation he's been like a really nice guy the whole time she's clearly

she has some sort of undiagnosed disorder she's a very like her mood swings are insane and sometimes it's funny like when she was in the pool just like talking about all the other couples I was like oh that's funny because she went from like being mean to laughing but she she has something she's really she's unbalanced um and he's been so calm with her and he's really been like a p-jom and he was just done at this point so he um he was like we're done and he wanted the ring back she was like no you gave this to me like no and everyone's like jackie's so evil give him the ring back after all you put him through but it's like it's literally not his ring it's just as much hers as it is his production pays for the ring yeah and she had just like one of the regular like and then

in her statement because a lot of people have been coming over she's like I know you guys like thought it was rude I should have given it back to Netflix not Marshall right he was just like trying to make a point to like be dramatic but it's literally not your ring yeah it's neither of theirs I know she's like the villain because that's what I've seen and I haven't seen her I've seen the mood swings and but every one I kind of could understand a little bit like I feel like she's struggling because she's like really happy with Marshall and she wants to get like carried away with the whole process but she has her family who are not here for her going on the show and getting married and engaged and like that's a real buzzkill of you know when like you feel like you're doing something that goes against, like, what your family wants for you.

And, like, it's conflicting. So I understand a little bit why she's, like, having these extreme moods. And then, you know, she met his family. And I thought they were all really sweet. And, like, she came out of it really quickly. Even though she was, like, having a breakdown before. Yeah, she was having a breakdown right before. She's just very emotional.

She is. But I also feel like, and I started feeling this way in the pods first like Marshall's a little controlling and I feel like he was one controlling when anyone else was talking to Jackie like that's the fucking show like that's insane like you're not engaged yet like that's what this is for and like he was upset that Josh didn't like mention his connection but like honestly I'd probably move like that too. I would be silent. Look at what happened with all the girls. Everyone knows everyone's business. And like I literally think Micah got engaged to Paul just to stick it to Chelsea.

A hundred percent. Who? Amber. Yeah. So I understand all that. I thought that Marshall's reaction was like really controlling and possessive of Jackie when it's like she's still single. She's in the game.

And then when he said that he looked at her like a project. That was mean. No, it was mean, but I do think it was revealing and also true, which is like he wants to be the one to fix her and like her to blossom under his tutelage. And it's just like she's her own person. Like you don't marry someone or like get this serious with someone because of potential

it's like yeah do you love her as she is with all of this or like or not so I don't know I feel like they're really not a good fit for each other and also what she wants is like what the Marshall said like a toxic kind of love you wear it's like more passionate and fiery and aggressive Josh a drama in the bedroom and whatnot and so for that reason one for that reason that's probably why she's still single yeah and two for that reason she's not gonna be able to see Marshall for the what he can bring right his his good traits yeah no he's like very stable looking to settle not like emo boy yeah yeah and I think she finds him to be soft you know he's like a little beta yeah no he's like yeah he's just like in his feelings and

and she's not into that look no not at all but I would think that in the pods you'd get a sense of that yeah no and also you just have to be self-aware like you're on tv yeah um so the weddings are coming up we obviously don't know anything yet which is just beyond annoying after how many hours I've spent of this show and that's your recap that's all folks it's not it's not all folks because we still have a whole ass show to do I know I can't believe we just did that at the beginning I honestly I didn't think it was gonna be so long we should really cut it and just put it at the end I really didn't think it was gonna be so long I'm sorry I thought it was gonna be like a really cute quick moment for us no no when they take up this much of your time and your brain

space and having to hear people say like that many times I'm gonna have some feelings about it and it's really making me look at myself and count how many times I say like by the way it's unbearable same it's unbearable but you also have to remember these are ordinary people yeah and they're not media trained like we're just watching people be people and sometimes that can be really fucking boring but refreshing yeah unless you have a character like a Jackie or Irina. But then you're like, why are you so crazy? No, we need people like that. They're making the show.

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are you ready for our first story? Well, I wasn't ready when I first heard it, but yes, I am ready. Taylor Swift and Joe Alwyn have broken up after six years of dating. Entertainment Tonight exclusively learned and broke the news that Taylor and Joe broke up a few weeks ago. They also learned that the split was amicable and it was not dramatic. Entertainment Tonight told the relationship had just run its course.

It's why Joe hasn't been spotted at any shows. She is currently on the Heiress tour, which heads to Tampa next week. I mean, it's been a really long time since like a piece of pop culture news has like really shocked me. And with this, not only have they been together for so long, so you just kind of forget about people. Like they're just settled. They're out to sea. Their ship is out to sea. And we get no real updates on them because they're

so private except her songs which are so glowingly which are not even like they're like some of the most beautiful love songs yeah it's just like the story is over yes I've solved love yes it's done case closed I'm only to write about the love. Right. That's why it was so shocking. Right. And I will admit now I feel like I can. You know, when they first started dating, he's not my type.

I don't really know him. He's not that famous. Like, I wasn't obsessed. Like, I think a lot of people are obsessed with the relationship. I'm not. I've actually never seen him in anything. I think people are obsessed with the love for Taylor. Yes. ability for Taylor that I loved and I think and the loyalty I think he was really there for her during like dark times you know Kim and Kanye reputation so I do really

feel like every relationship serves its purpose in one way or another in your life and I feel like he served his purpose and as much as like I'm sad that Taylor like has been going through a breakup and probably writing some great songs I am not like not excited about like she's single now and we forget because it's been so long but she was like the single gal to a point where like it became her thing I'm ready like who does she date next like I'm excited I don't think it's gonna be like that I know for so many reasons one like I think for a lot of guys like they don't want to be lumped in they don't want to be a part of that group like look at Jake Gyllenhaal like the fans are her you know what I mean like so to even go on a date with someone have a song written about you it's just like is it worth it if you you really have to think you're gonna find love with

this person and I think for Taylor like she I think she loved the privacy of the last six years and dating someone more low-key. And I don't think she wants a relationship that everyone's talking about and everyone's talking about her man. Like, I think she'll continue to be low-key about it. I don't think it's going to be like, you know, Taylor and Tom Brady and she's on, like, a press tour of dating. Well, DuMois posted, and we have to, of course, take with a grain of salt,

that Taylor and Joe have been broken up for a while and she's actually seeing someone new, an older low-key guy yeah that tracks yeah it does track I don't know if it's true or not but I believe they've been broken up for a decent amount of time and you know Taylor and she'll admit this and I think people used to use it as like a slight against her but she meticulously plans out everything in her life and I think you know the timing she has a weekend off this is like the longest break in the tour I think it's like a week and a half so it gives everyone time to kind of like move on, forget about it.

But now, of course, everyone's going back and looking at things she's been doing, changes she's been making, things she's been saying in the last couple of weeks that might have indicated that something was up. Yeah, because she's saying the one, which is a breakup song, but every song of hers is a breakup song.

No, so not only that, it's like she replaced a core song in the set list, which was Invisible String, and everybody knows it's about Joe Green. core song in the set list which was invisible string and everybody knows is about joe green was the gunner of the last three albums about joe not no not every not every song no london london boy is obviously about joe yeah like all the lover ones really that's like the joe era like not really yes really okay but so i'm saying not every song is about but the invisible string one is like in my opinion like the greatest not only most obvious but like it's like a song dedicated to

Joe and she removed it and replaced it to the one which if you don't know the lyric is one about him being poor yeah he's she calls him poor and invisible string and what but what about the other one where which one king of my heart oh all the boys in their fancy cars with their Range Rovers and the Jaguars never took me quite the way you do or maybe Paris your roommate's cheap uh cheap ass screw top rosé that's how there's so many instances where she calls him maybe he had enough does she still sing king of my heart I don't know if king of my heart is not on the set list huh king of my heart is the best song I just really hope that like this doesn't then I don't think it will because like I am I think this weekend Tampa is gonna get like a breakup show I am hoping dreaming dying for one of these shows of course I'm hoping that it's mine for her to sing peace like I don't know how you write peace about someone and maybe maybe it wasn't

enough that he couldn't she could never give him peace like but well that yeah it's not a love song like so it's like an anxiety song yeah I don't think it falls into the category of things we can't sing anymore because I'm processing this breakup I agree I agree but I hope that category is not gonna be a thing I don't think it will be because I think she's already processed everything she probably you know when you're breaking up with someone especially a long-term relationship like things deteriorate for a while before you make the choice. And, like, I think you do a lot of the grieving before. Like, I feel like by the time she even embarked on this tour, like, she's known what's up.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just, it was so shocking. And I really can't stress enough how, like, I'm not mourning him at all. Like, I really wasn't ever, like, die-hard obsessed. I, if I'm being completely honest, thought she could do better um but I was happy for her you know and they bless you she sees on it it's true she seemed really balanced and happy you're like mourning the stability yeah because I think that's like what she craves because so much about her life is like so crazy so for that I'm sad but I do feel like I'm ready

for her to move on yeah but I also feel like when they started dating, where she was versus where she is now, it's like she's almost a different person in her growth, in her career, in her success. She's never been this popular. Yeah. Ever. Yeah. And I don't, but I think she's also the type to be like,

well, he was with me when I was down. I'll always stand by him. I have to imagine that when your life and your career is like predicated on so many ups and downs like you don't make decisions in haste like when you're going through a bad time and when you're at the top oh I'm at the top of my game I don't need him now like I don't think and I also feel like because I've just been watching a lot of I've just watched George and Tammy and a lot of movies about famous people biopics Johnny Cash cash walk the line um i feel like when you're at the top that's when it's the loneliest yes and when you're climbing out of something

you have a purpose and a guiding light and like you are driven yeah then you reach the top in it and it only just like it echoes the loneliness just echoes so i actually feel like even though it might seem like oh she's on top she just wants to like do her thing and party and have fun it's like i think that's when you want like someone in your bed to come home to and and to actually like enjoy everything that you've built yes having said that I do also really feel like when we watch those biopics it's always yeah you're at the top but there's no one there with you yeah um I feel like Taylor's whole life has been preparing her for that like I feel like she's her always around her family she's always around like her home friends like she went through that era where she only had famous friends and now she has like

two or three famous friends but they're like actual friends I feel like she set herself up to you know whenever she reaches a peak and maybe she's in it now maybe she's still on her way up that she's not alone yeah and she is like fulfilled I could also see how like she's constantly surrounded by people she has her friend like you know her artist friends these people and there's always a lot of noise and if she ever is truly by herself it must be very quiet I just feel like you're just like going tipper tap with me like like I feel like she's I feel like she's happy I'm not going to I feel like she's I'm not going tipper tap with you I'm going tipper tap with the concept of like stardom and loneliness no and by the way I mean a hundred percent and I think a lot of those are 100 true all of the time but I just feel like Taylor

it's different I do I really do like Taylor's not a party girl she doesn't like do drugs like she's always with her family like her family is an end I think for a lot of stars when they become like untethered from their families or their family betrays them or it's something about money, like, that's when they really, like, lose grip of reality. And that's when they become so untethered and they just, like, you know, hang with people who give them drugs and bad influences. And the fact that Taylor has remained so close to her family is, like, very grounding for somebody in her situation. So I'm choosing to believe that that's what's happening. Yeah. No, I understand.

It's just crazy. Like, we literally watch so many movies recently. We watched, um, Patsy Cline's biopic. We watched old school country, Loretta Lynn, Johnny Cash.

And then I watched George and Tammy. And, um, it's crazy how it's just like everyone who's at the top is just so unhappy. Yeah. And they turn to all of this different substances. And it's like such a like it's crazy how really so few people escape that like yeah I don't I don't know yeah I feel like but maybe

it's also about being an artist like you can't really be like a creative person without being a little tortured yeah yeah yeah and like searching for something yeah yeah because you know some people just become an accountant right it's very cut and dry they're fine and they're fine yeah but you know if you want to like dig deep into the soul like into your soul like it's just it's a different beast yeah i just do think a lot of those like cliches don't apply here honestly i agree i do agree are you ready for our next story yes ma' ma'am. Some happy relationship news. When one shape sinks, it can be repurposed, built back together, and set afloat. Reclaimed wood.

Reclaimed wood. Very Joanna Gaines. Set afloat with Olivia Colbo and Christian McCaffrey, who are engaged. She posted the announcement on Instagram Friday in a picture carousel of him proposing to her. I think they were at Amman Geary in Utah. They had taken a road trip.

An RV. An RV. She was, she was like so excited I obviously follow her so I was just watching the road trip and I was shocked at how she was saying this is like her dream vacation is to go in and out like it was not even like a big RV like it wasn't like a coach bus it was like an RV with like one room and a couch and I was like damn and it was just her and Christian Christian was driving and Oliver Sprinkles their dog was there which does make everything more fun and I guess they drove from LA to Utah and they stayed at Amangiri and they got engaged and it's so fucking beautiful I think a lot of people like what we're watching the trip on her Instagram stories being like they're gonna get engaged but people think that about everyone who goes on a trip who has a boyfriend like people do think

that about everything but I just want to say I'm not one of those people and you did say and I did say like I feel like this would because it's the off season it's just the two of them if you can live on an RV with someone for a number of days made for life and they're driving the bus and like their driving skills like and the you know shower situation and the cooking and the makeup like you can marry them I believe a hundred percent the RV was a test they arrived at the most one of the most beautiful resorts in the country. Right. And he said, that's my wife. That's my wife.

And then he had no doubts. Yeah. And she looked so happy. She looked so beautiful. There were like a lot of, because she got back from the trip. She got engaged. And then like there was like two or three days where she didn't say anything. Yeah.

She got engaged on the second and the news came out on the fifth. So between the second and the fifth, some of her friends spoiled it. Yeah, like I think her sister posted a story where there was like big balloons in the background with like one of those engagement ring balloons. Yeah. Whatever. Like it's all good. No, it's all good and it's all like good news.

Right. Spoiling good news is not spoiling. Yeah. And it's fun for the fans. Yeah. I'm happy for her. Like I think he's so cute and I just love that. I love this for her.

Especially as like a Niners girl myself. it's like a big Bay Area queen I'm thrilled it also it it hits harder like having just watched the Cold Bull show and like just knowing what she's about and what she wants out of life and it's like this is what she wants like she wants to be married and settle down and have kids yeah and that she's on the path to all of that I'm so happy for her it also hits harder just like knowing that she's now joining like an elite WAGS crew over in San Francisco we know we have Kyle Juszczyk and his wife you know iconic toasters we by the way I was just saying this to Ben because when we went to San Francisco with Kyle and Kristen for the 49ers game um I met Claire Kittle who is George Kittle's wife and she's so cute and so nice and I hadn't I'm not like a big footballer I hadn't heard of George Kittle before that game

when I tell you not a day goes by that I don't see George Kittle now it's like you know when you you don't know someone or something and then it's everywhere you go George and and I said I'm like Ben George Kittle's everywhere and Ben's like yeah he's also like having a moment he's like coming up right now like he's on all these podcasts and he has like a bunch of friends with like big shows YouTube shows so he's popping up everywhere but like I swear to god I had never heard this man's name in my life and now not a day goes by that I'm not thinking about George Kittle yeah it's just how life works you know it is and I do agree with you though right you see him everywhere yeah he's everywhere but I also now follow Claire so I see him everywhere I see him

every day on my Instagram by the way I, I follow her too. That's also it but also Ben said he's like having a moment because like he was like had a really good season and like you know there's like a lot of you know when it rains of course.

Yeah. As Liz Lemon once said. Yeah, so this is great for the Niners gang. I know, so that was just like another elite marriage. I mean think about the wedding like all the wags

are going to be there. I mean she's so I don't know who would have wanted to dress her like she's so stunning. She's got like a custom Versace dress or something. But I think she's also, I don't know who wouldn't want to dress her. Like, she's so stunning. She's got, like, a custom Versace dress or something. But I think she's also, like, quite traditional.

And so. Yeah. By the way, she is. Like, I think her family is, like, kind of religious. Like, they're going to be. And her and Christian are religious. Yes. She said on the show that, like, when they get into fights and, like, they can't see

their way out of stuff, like, they pray together. Oh, my God. That's so cute. So cute. Speaking of prayer, total tangent. But I did want to talk about this because I saw an interview this morning. And I've been seeing a few that Blac Chyna has been on this kind of like press journey.

And actually she prefers, she's going by Angela White now. I don't know if you know that. She had, is having like a, quite literally a come to Jesus moment. She got all of her filler dissolved. She quit OnlyFans. She is, she was baptized. She's having her, she said this quote, demonic tattoos removed. She's like a woman of Christ. Now she looks so beautiful. I saw this interview she did.

And honestly, like the interviewer was like gushing over her. And he was just like, how did you come to this place? She's like, I just, you don't see it when you're in it. I was like happy doing all the things that I was doing. And then one day I like found Christ. And I was like, I can't believe I'm living my life this way. And I'm putting all these toxic things in my body and this is how I'm making a living and honestly she was so she sounded so lucid and I've never ever in my life been a fan of black china like clearly I'm a Kardashian stan we literally have the word china right we literally invented a word after her I was so happy for her she looked so healthy and happy and you know salvation is real salvation is real. Salvation is real. Well, I was just watching George and Tammy and eventually, I don't want to spoil it, but by the end of the show, George finds

Christ. And it's just, it can be really good for people. It's amazing. It's for people who are struggling with a myriad of things. Like first his friend, who was like really an enabler the whole show. Then one day just like him and his wife found Jesus and like they weren't about that life anymore. And he kept trying to get George to see the light. And finally George does and it just changes everything for him. Yeah. And I'm not I'm not obviously not a Jesus girly.

And I'm not speaking like Jesus. No but believe in a higher power. Like a spirituality whatever religion it is. It can be so grounding, I think, especially when you run in like, you know, Hollywood, which can be like, you know, hedonistic. And when people treat you like a god. Yeah, yeah. And then it's hard to have perspective.

Yeah, I just thought it was a really powerful interview, if you can catch. She's been doing a bunch. Like, it was really interesting. She went on podcasts. It was good stuff. I'm really happy for her. we said christ and the kardashians are like weirdly um religious religious so maybe this could be like not weirdly sorry underrated surprisingly underratedly yeah um maybe this could be common ground for them they can you know take the kids

to church yes i agree yeah i think it's good i think it's all good i'm happy for olivia and christian me too obsessed beyond yeah okay are you ready for our next story yes an update in the in-law saga I know that's taken over I'm obsessed the Beckhams are celebrating Brooklyn and Nicola's first wedding anniversary together so Brooklyn and Nicola happy anniversary they are together with Victoria and David took a photo posted it with a cake with a cake that had like photos on it I bet Brooklyn cooked it himself and you know they're putting up a united front Victoria posted the photo Nicola posted the photo like happy to be celebrating their anniversary yeah and I'm just at a place now where nothing they do or say or

post will convince me otherwise like this even Victoria though yeah this is giving and I'm just so convinced in my head and I don't have any proof but I think they're so motivated to prove people wrong even though I think people are right that they're just like posting like I really I like I'm not buying it but maybe it's just because I don't want to buy it but it's also like you could celebrate you could be with your in-laws and have a bad relationship and take a picture and post it and like yeah we're celebrating the anniversary shirt it doesn't mean these people like each other yeah I also felt like her outfit was just like not what you wear to hang with your in-laws yeah she was like definitely like downplaying the whole anniversary because she hates the matter no no no no not Victoria oh Nicola's outfit what was she wearing she was

she's wearing like a crop top and short shorts like that's just not appropriate that's not what you wear with your in-laws and especially everyone else is wearing like pants it's wearing like a crop top and short shorts. Like that's just not appropriate. That's not what you wear with your in-laws. And especially everyone else is wearing like pants. It's clearly like the air conditioning is on in the home. It's just like it's just it's just not like in-law outfit. There are outfits for certain things. Just like when Celine was going to dinner with Drew Taggart. That wasn't a date outfit.

Right. This is not an outfit that you wear with your in-laws. Yeah. I'm just at a place in my life where I don't know what it would take for me to someone to convince me that these four get along. I just know there's problems and no photo is going to convince me otherwise I'll have to see it in person no but I think that there can be problems and there can be a photo oh yeah of course of course but I think this photo was posted to placate us and try and convince us that there's nothing going on when I know that there is yeah and I will not be fooled Jackie no I don't think that you would be I will not be

but happy anniversary be that I will not the first year of marriage they say is the hardest have you experienced that no um the fact that this was a year ago we've been talking about them for a year is so crazy like not to make everything about me but what a year like so time flies I know but it does feel like a year ago when they came on our radar. Because we never talked about them before their wedding. It does feel just really quick. Yeah, I remember when we talked about their wedding. Yeah. And we were just like.

Did you still live in New York? Yeah. Oh, okay. A year ago, April. Yeah. We were just like, what do these two have to worry about? There's all the money in the world to pay for the wedding. More money, more problems.

And it was, then it started to all unravel. did very quickly it was actually very fast um do I think the first year of marriage is the hardest I don't remember it being hard honestly yeah so no so no that would be a no great this is just my opinion it's not also I do think COVID um throw a sink my first year of marriage was like the year before COVID so then like I would say like the next COVID year was harder than the first year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, like being up each other's asses, working from home. Yeah, for me. And maybe that's why I don't feel like the first year of marriage is the hardest rule applies to me.

Because I think a lot of people struggle with having someone up your ass. But like I crave to be up someone's ass and I crave someone up my ass. Like I hate being alone. I'd love to be. That's so not true. No, I know. You hate when people are up your ass. You're literally the first one to just dip out of a gathering that's different even if it's four people gathering of four that's different you're never like the one who's like

like you're always just all of a sudden we're laughing to my family when it comes my family like I like to be no when it comes to your family you do it to us no I don't yes you do we're one minute we're laughing next I'm gonna I'm going really yeah there's no wind down there's no nothing maybe I'm like trying to leave to go back to Ben maybe I'm just obsessed with Ben with Ben yeah because I just said like I didn't I like when Ben's up but I feel like sometimes when you're dipping out hate you. Maybe. Maybe it's me. Yeah. It's me. I don't know what it is. But no, I didn't find the first year of marriage the hardest. When you were 13, you didn't find it. No. As a child bride, I found it to be quite relaxing.

And I also didn't find COVID to be that taxing but that's because we spent so much time at home like it wasn't that different than regular life no it was different it was it was but I don't remember or also maybe maybe I experienced trauma and I forgot about it that's so possible that's so turdy that's so turdy for me to like go through something like unenjoyable and then not remember it but I actually remember like when we were going through COVID like we would remark on who's handling it the best like we would mark on who's handling it the best. Like we would mark amongst ourselves and we would say like you and you are doing fine. You Claudia,

like your mental health was fine and you and Ben were fine. Yeah. Oh, okay. So maybe I'm not misremembering. No, no. We like,

we definitely did a ranking of like who was going, who was having the hardest time. Yeah. Cause that's like a fun thing to do. No, it is. And also what else were we going to talk about? And now if we,

I don't remember the rest of the ranking. I just remember everyone agreeing that like you were fine. Oh my God. Not someone we needed to worry about. It's so sad that I have this amazing life and like this amazing family and I'm constantly experiencing things and memories with people that I just will never remember. It's actually quite terrible.

Yeah. Because you know what I was thinking? You're going to kill me. Oh God. Remember like a couple couple years ago on the toast you were quoting back something I had allegedly said about getting on a plane and stepping into a new land yeah so for those who haven't been here that long I forgot about this fight so I can you retell I've laid down my arms I literally forgot can you retell okay so I I think it was my belief that one time Claudia and I were just like talking about nonsense as we do and she said something about the like magic of planes and how you

literally can step onto a plane and like you get off into a new land. And then on the toast like maybe weeks later, Jackie then regurgitated what I had said and let me tell you, I did not say that. Like I'm like, that's just not something I said. And then actually I was thinking about this maybe like a week ago it actually does sound like something I would say and do you actually look within do you feel that way like that's cool to get on a plane because you step off in a new land okay so maybe like the way you told it back wasn't accurate because what I was saying was more like I don't want to get into it but like I think I said it let's just leave it

at that how come no one ever surfaced it like if you did say it. Let's just leave it at that. How come no one ever surfaced it? Like if you did say it, couldn't someone just find it? It was a personal conversation. I think when we were on a plane. That's a weird thing to say personally. Like not on a show when we're just trying to speak. Like be dumb. We're just trying to think of things to say.

Yeah. I don't know why I said it. Like maybe it was like a long day. It's funny. You're now like taking my position, but I'm now taking yours. Like I don't think you would say that oh offline okay it's something you would say on the air maybe and if it was a thought i had like i definitely probably wouldn't have said it to you because like i knew you would have made fun of me no never yeah okay well if anyone can

go find that clip of us like of me telling the story. Yeah, it's like old studio. Yeah, that's an old one. Yeah. I forgot. I let it go. Some things I can't let go. Because she's moving on, letting go, holding on to tomorrow. I've always got the memories. Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah. Bravo plans to revive Roni Legacy as a girls girls trip style show with Ramona and Luann so Bravo's trying to revive the Real Housewives of New York City legacy project as a short Real Housewives ultimate girls trip style show and the network is hoping that Ramona will be back as page six first reported Bravo attempted to create a show with the legacy cast as a spinoff show that would be for a full season but that idea fell apart during contract negotiations now they're told that executives have retooled it as a special style show documenting a short span of time in the same way that ultimate girls trip covers a vacation that takes place over just a few days sources say it will be an ultimate girls trip with the

roni legacy cast and then i also saw some rumors that it was going to be a trip to Scary Island and bringing the band back together. I saw that too. I'm definitely getting fatigued with this back and forth Roni legacy. Like I don't really care anymore. Although I do think conceptually this is probably a better idea than like a whole different like new spinoff show. Yeah. Because their Ultimate Girls trips for like diehard Housewives fans are popular. So it's good.

I'm too far removed to be a fan of this idea or any idea at this point. Like one, I don't watch the UGTs in general. Me neither. The idea of these women like going for one last hurrah on a trip. Like it's not even like they're in New York and they're doing their lives and they have to like, you know. Vacation mode is different than real life mode.

It will just be absolute bananas. Yeah yeah and I'm not interested in bananas no but what I do like about this article is that some respect is being put on Ramona's name because you know what say whatever the fuck you want about Ramona Singer like you cannot deny her entertainment value especially with these women she is I'm sorry like she is that bitch and I think it pains a lot of people to say that but like she is so you know what I hope she's on it honestly did you recap Vanderpump Rules on no no I don't even remember what happened but I was just thinking about Watch What Happens Live with Tom Schwartz yeah you watched I did I did it was something to see it was definitely a lot a lot I'm so over

him I've been over him for so long I but I'm also over him from the show like his behavior on the show yeah and not even because of Tom Sandoval like I honestly has nothing to do with Tom Sandoval no it has a little bit to do with Tom Sandoval because honestly the the way he like alienates so many people like including Katie right now um but refuses to alienate Tom Sandoval because honestly the the way he like alienates so many people like including Katie right now um but refuses to alienate Tom Sandoval when like Tom Sandoval right now is making Tom Schwartz like Tom Schwartz has so much to answer for so many people are mad at Tom Schwartz like there's so much happening to Tom Schwartz as a result of Sandoval's actions that like he still is not even remotely mad he was telling everyone give Sandoval a hug if you see him he's feeling

down like but he's so quick to throw, like, Katie under the bus. Yeah. It's just, it's frustrating. Yeah. No, but I feel good about the fact that I've been done with him since before Scandival.

Yeah. You know? Yeah. Like, yeah. Whatever. And the only thing that happened on Vanderpump Rules was Raquel and Tom made out.

Right. Like, who cares? It's just, at this point, it's so irrelevant. Yeah. And we'll talk It's just at this point it's so irrelevant. Yeah. And we'll talk about it later this week. This week, yeah. When it comes on.

I just I can't go circle the train anymore. And now it's like we're in a lull until those final episodes air and the reunion airs. Yep. We have some time off. Yeah. Especially if we're going to keep going on about Tom and Raquel Schwartz because it's irrelevant. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like I'm taking the time off. Dumbass. To watch some other shows. I'm taking the time off. Dumbass. To watch some other shows. I'm taking the time off. Like George and Tammy. Right. And Love is Blind. Our fifth and final story,

which Claudia requested. Oh, yeah. It's a Claudia's request. I'm going to read it even though I don't understand the headline or anything about it. Well, let me just tell you a little preface.

Last night, me and Ben went to the movies. So underrated. Can't recommend going to the movies enough even though the popcorn was like kind of gross. We saw Air, which is the story of michael jordan making a deal with nike to do air jordan he had

just uh i think he was a freshman in college he was assigned to the nba there was a lot of hype around other players he was the third draft pick but he wasn't like you know the biggest and that's pretty big yeah but like with the three major companies at the time, which was Converse, Adidas was in first place, Converse, and then Nike was, like, kind of losery. They had, like, a very small share of the basketball market. They were never going to get a top three player, like, ever. But you said he was number three.

Yeah, they were never going to get a top three player. And so how they got the deal structured, yada, yada. So Viola Davis plays his mother. She was amazing. Ben Affleck plays Philil knight the founder of nike and there is no michael jordan character he exists you see the back of his head his mother really speaks for him which i do think is how it was when he was younger his mom ran the ship but he doesn't say one word it was so bizarre and so now the reason I say the story is Ben Affleck is explaining that artistic choice. Okay so Ben Affleck explains why Michael Jordan

isn't shown in air. By the way that movie sounds really good and why haven't I heard one thing about it? I know Ben had told me about it which is crazy because Ben knows nothing. You guys should totally see it. It was excellent. yeah zach was saying that oh my god they saw air yeah i was like yeah they saw air it was really good it's also a weird name for a movie i can't explain i don't i didn't like the name even though it's like a word and it's what the shoe was called yeah it's not a title for air jordan would have been a better it's not a title of a movie i agree air air it was weird michael j Jordan plays a pivotal role in the movie Ayer and is even present in a few climactic boardroom pitch scenes,

yet his face is not shown in the film aside from shots of magazine covers and snippets of archival footage of the real-life player. Right. We get the real Michael Jordan in, like, old-school videos. That's cool. Yeah. I like when they do that. It's a bold choice for the Amazon Studios film

because it's all about the Nike executives wooing Claudia Explainers. This is what Ben Affleck said, quote, how do you tell, sorry, this is what someone asked him, how do you tell a story about Michael Jordan and never see him? When you are that person, when you become so much more than a hero or an athlete or even an icon, you start to become an idea to people. You touch them and just start to represent hope and excellence and greatness. You are one of a kind. There is no way I was ever

going to ask an audience to believe that anybody other than Michael Jordan was Michael Jordan which was also out of my own naked self-interest frankly because I knew it would destroy the movie you will see him in archival clips in the movie but you will see Michael Jordan as he truly is in his authentic masterful genius which exists for all of us to see it was a deliberate choice I thought he was too majestic to have anyone impersonate him and as I told him you're too old to play the part um it was a terrible choice disagree you disagree with what I'm saying with Ben Affleck yeah it was such a bad choice confusing misleading and I really I I don't feel like it was deliberate I feel like maybe I don't know it was such a bad

it was my only real problem with the movie um especially because I understand what he's saying like now Michael Jordan is this larger than life real legend but at the time he was like just a kid and he was like doing what his mom said like I really feel like it wouldn't have made and then have to make him a huge part of it because at the end of the day it was all his mother she made the deal and it was her idea that okay you're gonna pay Michael this big amount but like you're selling shoes with his name on it we get a percentage of every sale and that had never happened before a royalty deal it had never happened and it changed now moving after that every player who has a line gets a percentage and it's like yeah this should this

money is being made off the likeness of a player and the player and their family should get that money in addition to Nike yeah so it revolutionized like and it was all her so I get maybe him not being the biggest character but like uh okay like yeah and they talked about him so much and then finally when they got a meeting I'm like all right well we haven't seen him up until this point but we got a meeting literally like his parents get out of the limo and oh my god the actor who played his dad I thought was Michael Jordan. Like, it was a perfect casting. They could have found someone. No, they could have.

And it's crazy that we're having this conversation after watching all these biopics. It's like, you can get Elvis. You could do Johnny Cash. Like, all these people are really larger than life in the stratosphere. And we play them all the time. Yep. And sometimes it's not. Obviously, like, you you know Joaquin Phoenix is no Johnny Cash of course but he did his best but we get to see the story of Johnny Cash yeah it was so and they could have had Michael's

son play him it was so dumb and Larsa could have been there literally it was so dumb that's dumb yeah I really liked the movie I didn't know much going into it so I was surprised that like the whole movie from start to finish is the making of the deal. We never get to see like the deal come to life and then what happens after. No, they torture us. I know. And I was just, and they gave statistics at the end, which are so unbelievable. You know, to this day, Michael Jordan makes passive income every year. And he only, they didn't tell you what percentage.

He has a small percentage of Air Jordan. He doesn't leave his house. makes 400 million dollars a year it is the craziest thing and so i just wanted to see a little bit more like literally they sign the deal and the movie ends i'm like come on they always do that they only focus on like the tumultuous times and yeah when those are like a small fraction of all the good times even when i was watching george and tammy like all the years the albums that they did the success they have was literally they showed a montage a montage of a bunch of albums like being dropped down give us the good like give us the joy no only the heartache and the torture oh my god it was like so

painful um but it was excellent and the Jason Bateman played, like, a pivotal guy at Nike. Matt Damon played the guy at Nike. And Ben Affleck played Shoe Dog, Phil Knight. And if I was Phil Knight, like, I would have a problem with the movie. Because, yeah, Phil Knight is, like, known. He was, like, he traveled to Asia and, like, found all these, like, Buddhist principles and brought back and started Nike. And, like, he's so, he's definitely, like, a little, you know. Out there?

Woo! But they made him out to be like a freak a moron. And it's like you don't build Nike by being a moron. Like come on. Like yeah he's weird. He does wear shoes around the office but he is a smart guy. Apparently his book is good shoe dog. Yes.

It's apparently like the go to business book. It's like the best one. Ben started and never finished. That's so bad. It's so bad. I keep saying finish it. I'm like maybe the movie will want will encourage you to. Oh we it and never finished. That's so Ben. That's so Ben. I keep saying finish it. I'm like, maybe the movie will encourage you to. Oh, we don't have another story because that was five.

But we did have our sixth man story of the day, which was about Ben's shoe on Friday's episode. Ben's shoe. I didn't know what you were talking about for a second. Ben's shoe was on Friday's episode. So I do want to kind of address the elephant in the room, which was on Friday. I told you guys how excited I was about trying something new with our cameras. I bought a second camera for our studio.

I tried something. It definitely needs work. You know, the angles aren't right. I'm actually, I'm going to head to the studio soon and, and work on it. But I got dragged.

I got dragged to fail with people being like, this sucks. And my fucking husband's shoe was in the frame the whole time. I'm sorry for what happened on Friday on YouTube. I am, even though I still think it looked really good. Like, you could still see both of our faces so clear and up close. Like, isn't that what we want to see, facial reactions? Yeah, no, you were focused on the face, which I do think is the primary.

Yep. But you weren't focused on the wallpaper, the spritz. And the shoe. And the table. And then the shoe. It was day one, and it was a Friday. Like, my God. The floating shoe.

Yeah. Yeah, but you did also ask people what do you think of our new setup so then you got a hundred thousand comments saying ben's shoe okay here okay so i'm gonna work in shoe dog so tomorrow like we'll be in studio with two cameras and let me just say i don't want to know what you think okay great great but i don't want feedback but i watched the episode and i saw the comments and i was like i wonder if she asked people for their feedback because everyone's giving feedback I did twice actually right and it was fun like at least we'll always have Ben's shoe yeah unite us he's a shoe dog he is the shoe dog so I actually really recommend a Nike shoe I really

recommend the movie by the way um no I'm not gonna watch it no it was really good but you just made it sound really bad and if you um I don't know a lot about Michael Jordan like I know he's the goat and I know he like weirdly also played in the MLB for a while because he's just, like, such a great athlete. He could do anything. It was really impressive. And it made me, like, I had a thirst for more knowledge about Michael Jordan. And it was very good.

It was very good. Okay, that's good. And it was also just very strangely a guy who had a very small role played by Marlon Wayans who was friends with matt damon who was trying to get this deal done and he was like getting advice because he used to coach michael jordan back in college um who was telling the story about something that happened to him when he went to like a civil rights march like years ago how some guy handed him a piece of paper it ended up in his pocket it was a half of this guy's speech um and he looked at it after

and it was i have a dream speech it was like the martin luther king accidentally like put it in his pocket it was a half of this guy's speech um and he looked at it after and it was I have a dream speech it was like the Martin Luther King accidentally like put it in his pocket and I'm like that is definitely not real and then at the end when they have pictures of everyone side by side with the real the actor and then the real person um it is a true story and that guy was offered three million dollars for it and he said no wow it was just like it was also just like a like a very crazy random um anecdote which really didn't have anything to do with the story but I'm like there's literally no way but it was real that's crazy it was a it was crazy so very good that's a good thing to do um to go see if you like date night I I recommend and or you could watch George and Tammy which is on Showtime it's

about George Jones and Tammy Wynette you know the king and queen of country music it's crazy how I really didn't know who they were at all Jessica Chastain plays Tammy Wynette and Michael Shannon who you would know his face plays George Jones and he to me is the star of the show like he really did amazing and I don't like how they were singing like it was the actor like I want to hear Tammy Wynette sing um also if you're looking for something to watch you could watch Succession oh yeah we'll get into the recap but I want to recap Tammy Wynette sing. Also, if you're looking for something to watch, you could watch Succession. Oh, yeah. We'll get into the recap, but I want to recap George and Tammy. Oh, okay. So is this the TV recap?

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In a big way. Yeah. Okay, George and Tammy, before we get into succession I'll be brief about it because it was really good I feel like it's a show that you know no one's really talking about it didn't get that much buzz or critical acclaim but it was totally up there and high value great people story again weird that I didn't really like I don't know George Jones you know some of the songs and Tammy Wynette and so it was cool to like see them in action

Jessica Chastain is a fabulous queen but like she's Jessica Chastain it's so hard to to think of her as someone else yeah and I just feel like I didn't get to I don't understand Tammy Wynette as a person at all I mean who's to know people but I just felt like the character was almost inconsistent a little bit uh but it was really enjoyable I think it's six episodes premium quality premium content country music lots of other country folk you should watch it Dirty Lou yeah and then you'll want to recap it yeah no you're not like selling it no it was good it's a crazy story like I I didn't even know that they were you know king and that they were like in love and recording music together and it's just like really cute they would literally like get together and write a song about getting together they got married they wrote a song about that they get into a fight that like the whole world was a part of

their relationship via their songs um I didn't know that they were like such a I guess like Garth and Trisha but we don't even know about Garth and like we don't know anything about them do they even live together like no like Garth and Trisha are like first lady and president of country music but like not really yeah like her tour bus literally said first lady because she was the first lady of country music oh who's Tammy Wynette oh I thought you're talking about Trisha Yearwood no no like Trisha Yearwood doesn't really even like perform or write new music that much anymore she's like a cooking show she's very much like um she's like a celebrity yeah so it was interesting to like they had this huge larger than life it's like I can't imagine living through like being a fan of theirs there was so much content they

were giving I also feel like Faith Hill and Tim McGraw were are probably more yeah of a comparison right yeah yeah I don't know goes Garth is just so big but that's what the George Jones like he was the king of country music bigger than her bigger than Tammy yeah well when they met yes and then like he was had a drinking problem he was on the decline she was on the up ultimately she get as big as him yeah I think it's Faith and Tim you think it's Faith no I feel like they're really not equal no I agree with that but I think Faith and Tim are not as big as George and Tammy were right right but Tim's really big yeah I feel like there's one other country music couple that

kept coming to mind like it would have been like Blake and Miranda I know if they had stuck it out they really would have been like the next Tammy and George were only married for six years oh and like the the whole show is like you know they were always like each other's one but then when you look at their whole life story, I didn't think that they were. Like they tried to make the case, but like she was married five times. She was so in love with George. But they were married for six years and then she married someone else and was married to him for 20 years. Oh, so he wasn't the one.

But the 20-year relationship was extremely nefarious. Hate to see it. Yeah. No, like I don't want to spoil anything, but it was nice not knowing their story. Yeah, I don't know anything. Because I was shocked. Maybe add it to the list of things, like, I'll say no, and then I will, you know? It's only six episodes.

I just went, I was shocked by the way things went. Oh, wow. It wasn't just, like, Boy Meets Girl. Right. June and Johnny Cash. Right. Oh, June and Johnny Cash are another one. June and Johnny Cash.

There's so much of that in country music. It's nice. It's like a very family like genre. And I'm sure if we thought long and hard about like just music relationships like Beyonce and Jay-Z.

Yeah. They're the first lady and president or she's more the president and first man. Of music. Of the music industry. Yeah.

And specifically their genre. Yeah. Okay. Let's do succession. I have just like never really felt more disconnected. Yeah, spoilers. I have never really felt more disconnected from my generation than I did last night going on Twitter and reading people's thoughts on Succession.

About the Emmys, how they'll be walking into the Emmys for this episode? Literally people were like, I was in tears. This is the most profound acting. This is the best show on television. I was really shocked because I was really frustrated watching last week's episode where nothing happened or like it was like maybe one thing is gonna happen and the whole episode we're on the edge of our seats is something gonna happen we didn't even find out if something that thing was gonna happen this week um and but

something did happen and the whole time I was just kind of like he's not yeah he's not I'm like this is a prank he's testing to see who loves him the most I didn't think it was a prank at a certain point at the beginning I did but then I didn't it was weird that they never showed his body so I was like I was misleading and then I was like well they'll revive him and this was just like maybe a way to get the family back together but then the fact that they actually did it was like the only interesting yeah thing so it's like they sat around the writers table they were like we're to kill Logan and we're going to make you spend the whole episode wondering if he's dead. Yeah. And that's going to win us an Emmy. Yeah. I'm just I'm not understanding why everyone is so guffawed over this episode. Like, yeah, no, it was it was good to see all the kids like finally be human.

Yeah. But that does not an Emmy make. But like you were estranged. And those people on the plane, like even though they're like they they care about the business and they're there to work. Like they worked for Logan and they supported him over the years. And you made his last year a misery. Yeah, no, I just, I was not feeling anyone or anything. And like Connor, everyone's pissing me off. And I don't know why they didn't show us his body or face. It was very bizarre.

It's giving me Bart Bass. Like he's coming back. Yes. I literally, and like the only one who went up to see his body is Roman. And like Roman knows that he's still alive and there's a whole thing. But that's like so not this show.

I know, I know. It's not a soap opera. It's based in realism, which I appreciate. If only it was a soap opera and dramatic things happened. Yeah. Instead we're now like,

so the only thing that's happened this season is that Logan has died because the first episode with the P Pierce acquisition null and void everything that happened that episode is irrelevant now second episode gojo will they won't they back out irrelevant now because you know what now if they want to back out of the deal the kids have to go and ask that guy for more money when literally that guy called Kendall and said you will not get another penny out of me and And Kendall's been knowing that. And they can't.

And Kendall sent his dad to Switzerland. Yeah. Knowing it was a moot point. They also can't buy Pierce without the sale. So they're not going anywhere. They're being so dumb. So now the show is about, did you watch it coming up?

Now the show is about who is the new CEO? Oh, and that was the question in episode one when Lohan had his health scare. So in four seasons and one whole year, you never figured out who's going to succeed Logan. And no one is up for the task. They need to bring in outside help. There's really not one character I unequivocally like. No.

Except Colin. Connor. Colin. The driver. The driver. And he got one scene and it was like actually really sad. That's like his friend. And like, I just, I felt sad for him.

Besides that, like I, I know this is gonna be a hot take because everybody loves him. I fucking hate Cousin Greg. Like he's so inept. I just, I hate everyone. And I know I, the show is like satire. I get it. I don't like it.

But it's not. Like I know people say that, but it's not because like satire. I get it. I don't like it. But it's not. Like I know people say that. But it's not because like satire is really funny. And I know that. But like no one's laughing when you're watching. Maybe there's one good joke every episode. But you know who's making the joke? Logan.

Yeah. And now our comic relief. Is gone. And any sense of like smartness. Is gone. Everyone else is so fucking dumb. Yeah. And even the so fucking dumb. Yeah. And even the people who work for Logan, at least they have, like, you know, business savvy.

Mm-hmm. But they're all just, like, scared of what's going to happen. That scene with Carrie was odd. Well, she was weird when she was, like, cackling. Smiling. But they were just happy to be rid of her. Yeah, no, and they were being funny, like, about her. But it was just weird like

why was she smiling I have no idea but like she's irrelevant now and I do acknowledge that there's a lot that goes on in the show like in terms of business and then just in terms of like writing that definitely goes over my head I like don't understand this show no do you watch with subtitles of course then you'll understand and here's what here's what you need to understand uh uh and everyone speaks like that yeah as is where was it it uh in play uh because like everyone's always nervous all the time no one is cogent except for logan i just i i've come to dread the show no and now without my only character who i liked I I'll finish the season but I'm not watching it week to week is that okay like oh wow I just I last night was painful for me and I was really tired and I wanted to go to sleep it was a painful episode and Ben who watches with me but

doesn't know much I like explain but he doesn't know like the backstory he's like this show's terrible i'm like no i know no uh uh the plane um he was in the bathroom and when yeah when tom was like trying to convey at first what was going on it was so how do these people reach these levels as facades when they can't communicate yeah it's not gonna be one of the kids because they're each dumber than the next um and the only one who's smart is roman and shivan kendall will never let him yeah succeed them yeah uh and then none of the worker bees jerry carolina hugo carl whatever hugo it has to be an outside force tom thinks he's up for it i know so does greg in some weird capacity who do you think i don't know there's no like obvious choice no they're all inept and they're all like just dumb and annoying I like hate the show

hate yeah I don't know if I hate it because like when you start to hate something like you you always like have a way of making me then hate that thing but like I think I hate it because like it's bad no last night was I just don't know if I'm so influenced by my older cool sister who's like always smart you know so sweet but no you would have hated last night regardless horrible torturous I'm happy Connor got married. Yeah, me too. And you know what? It's nice. It is nice. Is it great?

No. Is it good? Yes. It's good. It's good. Can't expect to be like so happy in every part of your life, you know? No, and like she's growing to love him. Yeah.

And she's really supportive of him. Yeah. And she just feels, and they have like an understanding that like, yes, he has money and like she's craving that sort of stability, but you learn to love the one you're with. Yeah. It's nice. It is. It's not like anyone else has a relationship.

So true. Okay, well, that's our show. That was a Succession Recap. That was your TV Recap Sandwich. Your TV Recap Sandwich. It was stuffed with lots of meaty TV Recaps. So meaty. Make sure to keep an eye on the Toast Instagram today

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