The Toast - Walking In Turdy's Truth: Thursday, February 23rd, 2023

Episode Date: February 23, 2023

Kelsea Ballerini allegedly cheated on Morgan Evans with Drew Taggart (Page Six) (11:45) Kylie Jenner denies 'silly' rumor she, Hailey Bieber dissed Selena Gomez's brows (Page Six) (22:17) ��Mean Girls' stars may not return for new movie over 'disrespectful' money offer (Page Six) (32:45) Paris Hilton Reveals the Name of Her and Carter Reum's Baby Boy: 'I Decided Years Ago' (PEOPLE) (42:48) Gisele Bundchen Transforms for First 'Vogue' Cover Since Tom Brady Divorce (PEOPLE) (46:26) Dear Toasters Advice Segment (51:07) The Toast with Jackie (@JackieOshry) and Claudia Oshry  (@girlwithnojob)  Merch The Toast Patreon Girl With No Job by Claudia OshrySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to The Toast. Happy Thursday. Congratulations on making it to the latter half of the week. It's a great day. Happy Thursday, everyone. Yippee! Hey, hey, who's that? Who's that girl? La-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Hey, Jax. Hey, turdy-swirly-lirty. What's going on? Nothing much, my swirly-girly-twirly. How swirly are you feeling today? A little swirly.

A little swirly. Did you have a nice evening? I did. You know what? I wanted to tell you. So Taylor Strecker's birthday was last night and her wife threw her like a really queen-like birthday event and I think like you should adopt it for your next birthday it was so you tell me about it so maybe not all parts of it so we got there because you're not I don't think you're like the first part but we got there and we did like cocktail hour they have like a really great apartment like nice fireplace it was not big it was like really close friends and family um and she had her favorite magician come and like do live not magician like mentalist um do like cool tricks on everyone and everyone was like gagged like screaming while they in the

kitchen two chefs prepared this beautiful meal um so maybe not I know I know you're not like into like mentalist magician things but like it was a good like I don't know it was fun like kept cocktail hour fresh mentalist greater than magician I will say but I don't like things I know but I do think you would have been impressed with this guy I had met him once before he was at Brian's baby shower his name is Phil and he'll have you know he'll take two people in the room who like do not know each other he'll ask one of them um think of the name of like a friend's pet like something so random something nobody in the room would know.

And through asking various questions, he would figure out the name of the pet. And then also at the same time, so it was Taylor's brother who thought of like his childhood friend's pet. And then he asked Bo, Stassi's husband, these two people do not know each other, like personally. And he was like, look up any celebrity on Wikipedia, like yada yada. And he gave him like a certain criteria based on some of the things he had read from Taylor's brother, whatever. The dog's name was Calvin. Bo had selected Calvin Klein.

Whoa. Yeah, it was like really kind of spooky. It wasn't even so much magic. It was like, it was cool. Yeah, no. Mentalism is cool. And mentalism is cool. And then we just sat down for dinner.

They had like this really beautiful long table set up in their apartment with like candelabras and flowers and there were candles all over the apartment. And we got served this like hella fancy meal. Caviar, seafood towers. Hella fancy. Tomahawk steaks. And Taylor went out of her way to get kosher meat delivered from Park East for me, Ben and Margo, which was so nice. Cause like all of our friends know we're kosher and like, whenever we do meals, there's always like a substitute, you know, like a vegetarian or a fish,

which is great. But to get to eat the same stuff as everyone else. Oh my God. It was, it was overwhelming. And they had like a bartender. It was like really, everyone got dressed up. It was like really elevated. And I was thinking, I I'm like this is what Jackie needs to do for her next birthday okay so I will do that for my 31st yeah come on down 100% I can have everyone stay with me yeah you could have like you know a jazz trio in your foyer or something you know trio that's what I need a jazz trio you know you have a house we could eat it outside like yeah it was, it was like a gorgeous event. It's really gorgeous. I'll start making arrangements.

Thanks for the idea. Yeah, and like the long tablescape filled with like, and she like had said something. She made like a little speech. She was like so happy. Like people from all different walks of her life being together. It was like really nice. It kind of felt like a rehearsal dinner.

Nice. Yeah, just an idea. Thrown it out there, 31st. Appreciate it. What are you going to do for your birthday, Charity? Oh, you know me. I have this very complicated pushing pull. Why don't you do that for your birthday?

Yeah, actually, maybe. You have a nice terrace in your building. Yeah, I wonder if they'd let me. I wonder if they'd let me. If you ask in advance enough, which now is in advance. Yeah. No, I mean, they'd let me. I wonder if they'd let me. If you ask in advance enough, which like now is in advance. Yeah. No, I mean, I can't start. Like my birthday is one of the worst and best days of the year, you know?

That's so turdy. No, I think a lot of people relate to that. I don't think that's a turdy exclusive. Okay. Wow, the judgment in the pause. I was just going to say something else. I was just going to take me I was just gonna take me on tangent and like okay period I'm not gonna come I'm not gonna conflict with you turdy I'm not

gonna do it you're not but you'd love to um no I'm not I'm not gonna do it you know sometimes like you don't have to say everything that's something I definitely have learned as I've gotten older and I'm still working on it for sure. But whether it comes to like a conversation with human beings or something on the internet or just like something I want to post, you don't, you don't have to say everything. Yeah. So that's how I feel right now. Like, you know what, Turdy? Walk in your truth. Oh, that's like you calling me delusional. Okay. No, no, that's me having watched the rest of the Kelsey Ballerini interview. And towards the end, there was a lot of that. I have to remain true to my journey, like her career.

It's like, girl, you're a success. Like, just say that, you know? Yeah, totally, totally. And she's walking in her truth. And I'm walking in Turdy's truth today. Walking in, walking in Turdy's Truth today. Walking in, walking in Turdy's Truth. That's such a good song. Yeah. So let's see what Turdy's Truth brings us today. Well, Turdy's Truth yesterday brought her a flight to Vegas. I wanted to update everyone. I got an aisle seat. It's all the way in the back. I'm not thrilled.

I'm not thrilled, but I got a seat. So I'll just, I got to take like a Klonop in the back. I'm not thrilled. I'm not thrilled, but I got to see it. So I'll just, I got to take like a Klonopin or something. I got to go get a prescription for something strong. You have a Xanax laying around a little. I don't think I do. A little rogue Xanax, one of Theo's perhaps.

I don't have a rogue Xanax lying around. You wouldn't know what to do on a Klonopin, Turdy. You've talked such a big game. I wouldn't. But you're so paranoid. You think Turdy's going to be in the back row to do on a Klonopin, Turdy. You've talked such a big game. I wouldn't. But you're so paranoid. You think Turdy's going to be in the back row alone on a flight taking a narcotic for the first time.

Yeah, no, I'm not going to take a Klonopin. No, you're right. You call me out hard and I agree. That's not even remotely true. She'll be taking a half of a half of Theosemix. No, I'll literally be taking like a half of a half of Benadryl and being like, it's not working. But I am excited to fly Delta. This is the first

time I'm flying Delta since my special is available on the Inflate Entertainment. So that I'm really excited to see. I wish I was seeing it from, you know, a Delta comfort seat or a first class seat, but it's okay. I'm excited. Yeah. If the special's any good, you'll forget where you are. You'll be transported. I could watch it over and over and next thing I know I'm in Las Vegas right

and I didn't even notice that I'm smushed Viva Las Vegas Viva Las Vegas Viva Viva Las Vegas I love Vegas so much it's just like so sexy I told you a number of times like I want it's so Viva, viva Las Vegas. I love Vegas so much. It's just like so sexy. I told you a number of times like I wanted to come. It's so what? It's sad because I told you a number of times I wanted to come on your trip with you. Yeah.

And you just like, were like, yeah, cool. Sure. I was like, I said, yeah, come. You didn't like send me the deeds. You didn't send me anything. Like I could have been there. But I'd love to be there. Like you weren't actually going to come.

Ask a follow-up question. When are you flying? Saturday. Why not Friday? It's like a really long story. I'm not going to bore everyone on that. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. Like, I just felt uninvited, honestly.

Oh, my God. Victim mentality. OK, Morgan Evans. Uninvited. Oh, we're going to talk about Morgan Evans today because the wheels of this story just keep on turning. Now, don't they, Turdy? They do.

So we also, we have a great show because there is some news, a little extension from yesterday, the Kelsey stuff. But then also to pick up where we left off yesterday, we didn't have time yesterday for Dear Toasters and I had three really good submissions picked out. So we're doing it today so we can really dive in, help the girls. The girls need help.

Yeah. And I'm excited. I fucking love Dear Toasters. Yeah, I'm excited too. And we have some really good stories that I think are going to spark interesting dialogue. So without further ado, here are the fast five stories that are going to spark interesting dialogue that you need to know. Am I ready for these stories?

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august 2019 at lollapalooza after having collaborated on their hit 2018 track this feeling but page six says that kelsey didn't come clean about it to Morgan until 2021 we're told the alleged why like that fuck that makes no fucking sense we're told the alleged affair combined with other issues led to Kelsey calling it quits with Morgan last summer and quote blindsiding him with her decision nobody's reps have returned comment okay I have many thoughts the first is I don't believe this for a multitude of reasons one the timing is so suspicious like and I feel like Morgan I don't know if he necessarily planted this but like oh it comes out right after call her daddy like okay to that other part about

it happening in 2018 and her not coming clean till 2021 let's say for real she had like an affair or just cheated one time and they got divorced in 2021 or like the marriage. No, sorry. They got divorced in 2022 in August. So like six months prior, like why would you come clean at that point? Like the marriage is already, it's clearly ending. So like, what's the point? Maybe to like show that how checked, like he didn't even know. I don't know. I have so many thoughts. I don't know what I believe. I really don't. But I have so many thoughts. I don't know what I believe. I really don't. But I feel like I've been having a few internal arguments with myself.

First, of course, when this dropped, your initial inclination is like Morgan's team dropped it. Yeah. But I don't know if I believe that because I don't know if Morgan's team would go to page six. Like he's from Australia. Page six is a very national, if not local publication. Like I feel like he would have gone to TMZ or the Daily Mail, just something.

I feel like people in Nashville don't really put much stock in Page Six. Like, it's really like a New York socialite. Yeah, like, I just don't think that's where he would go. So I'm like, I don't know if it was him. Also, there was a Dumas blind a while ago about this rumor that now Dumas has revealed is the truth. I'm inclined to believe that it's not true because that would make Kelsey like an actual psychopath.

Yeah. Doing an interview about the truth of their marriage, not sparing one detail when she missed a whole part of the story. And I don't think she's a psychopath. I do not. Agreed. I think the Dumois thing, it makes me less inclined to believe it, honestly.

I kind of agree with that. And also, I feel like there's a chance that, and someone wrote this in the Toast After Dark, that she had said that they went on breaks, that they separated. And there's a chance that during one of their separations, who knows what the rules were, that she hooked up with Drew, but that she wasn't cheating on Morgan. Like maybe Morgan hooked up with someone and like they were separated and they, it wasn't an affair because

the rules were established. That's an amazing call. Like everything you just said, like, I wish those were my thoughts when I first started speaking like you're everything you said is 100% right and again like you're you're right if let's say this was true she had this like long-standing affair and then she was out here doing interviews and writing EPs like it's such a crazy thing and let me tell you something not to brag like I know Kelsey Ballerini I've actually known her for years we're good friends she ain't fucking crazy you know no that would be truly psychotic psychotic especially because she doesn't owe us the truth of her marriage but like she sat down and told us the truth of her marriage down to like you know the night she slept on the couch like if an affair was part of the dissolution

of the marriage that would be something to mention and by the way you know when Morgan Evans was out here writing that song that started this whole thing. I feel like if there was this big affair and he had known about it, there would have been some sort of allusion to that, like some reference, something. Yeah, but I think that perhaps if it, sometimes where there's smoke, there's fire. So like maybe a part of this is true, but everybody is speaking, this is the truth.

It is true that Kelsey, say, for example, I don't know what I believe yet. It is true that Kelsey and Drew hooked up. It is true that she, say, for example, I don't know what I believe yet. It is true that Kelsey and Drew hooked up. It is true that she did not cheat on Morgan. It is true that this affair had literally nothing to do with the end of their marriage because it was in a time of separation where they would have been separated anyway.

What everyone chooses to do with that time is what they choose to do with that time. But I would say if all of that is true, it would have been worth mentioning on the show during our times of separation, I actually connected with other people, which showed me what I could be having with someone else. Yeah, or none of it's true.

Or none of it's true. It's like such an obvious like thing, you know, like they had a song together. You know what I mean? Like, OK, they had a song together. You could do a song with someone and never even meet them. Like for real. So that doesn't mean you're spending late nights. For sure.

They got they did get a little specific Lollapalooza August they're giving us time and place they yeah okay they performed they performed it together like I don't this is an uninspired it's an uninspired rumor I stand with Kelsey hashtag I stand with Kelsey so you don't believe this no no I really don't I'm I'm inclined not to believe it on its face either and I don't even think that's just my bias I think it's like really I don't believe it and again honestly the second that was like Dumois blinded and reveal I'm like oh okay yeah like it could have been the same person who sent this to Dumois who told it to page six and that person could be a liar right and that person could have like ulterior motives. Yeah.

Or thinks they know something that they don't know. Right. So I'm not living for this. I'm not believing it. And I do not think Kelsey is psychotic enough to do that. No, that's like diabolical behavior. And I don't think, I know that that's not what we witnessed honestly no I agree like she was really like emotional during the interview there was like tears she laughed highs lows like that

was a real human being like going through that was not like something a serial killer would do I totally agree it's like I just I'm not I'm not believing it okay so that's where we'll stand on this yeah I wonder if anybody will speak on it. Speak out. Like, I wonder if Drew's like the fuck, you know? I feel like Drew's like always getting dragged into like these random PR things. He's just like kind of like an obvious choice.

Yeah. Like the Selena stuff. Like, I don't know. I feel like, I feel like he kind of likes it. Especially, I think the chain smokers are about to have like a major comeback. They did take some time off. So I think any press for a chain smoker right now is good press especially this is

harmless you know for him it's like yeah party boy yeah with a married girl like it's not damaging because it's very much a part of their brand so I don't think he's mad but it's just like for me it's like I don't know why I was like obviously Drew like I just feel like that's his shtick. Yeah I agree. But honestly, there's no one who could come out and deny it that would even change how murky I feel about it, unless Morgan said it's not true. Right, right. You know?

Yeah, but Morgan is very slowly becoming the villain in the story because Kelsey's album is so popular, and that interview was just really it was I think people felt a lot of empathy for her okay she's she's coming out the hero yes and I just want to read this um hot take from Toast After Dark uh our Patreon Facebook group because someone made a really interesting point that made me see the whole thing like a little differently and it's just worth mentioning she this from Alexandra she said this is a hot take it's funny because I don't really have a side I agree with Claudia and Jackie that in divorce in divorce both sides are each of both

sides are to each other equally the villain but I definitely was leaning more towards Kelsey the more I think about it though if the roles were reversed in this situation I think people would be responding totally different like if Kelsey was the less successful one wrote a song about the breakup of the relationship and then Morgan the star, in turn wrote an EP, made a music video, and then did a deep dive interview on the private details of their relationship, no one would be celebrating Morgan like they are Kelsey. That is fair. Oh, and they would be praising Kelsey for getting half the house.

Yes. No, you're 100% right. But that's why why and I feel like I've kind of been very clear about this from the beginning like I am not a feminist like yeah it's different because she's a woman and you know what we are different from men and you know what I'm okay with that like I yeah you're right it would be different but I'm not an equal opportunist right so I'm okay with this. But how are the equal opportunists, feminists wearing this with themselves?

Like why are they upset that he got half the house? Like if it was the woman, like, and she got half the house, not even half of his big lucrative career, I'd be like, okay. Yeah, no, you're right. If it was opposite, I would have been like, yeah, Kelsey deserves more. But it's not opposite. And women are different. And we are not the same. And it is different. Like, ew, you're going to take, yeah, Kelsey deserves more, but it's not opposite and women are different and we are not the same

and it is different. Like, ew, you're going to take money from a woman? Like, yikes. Like, we're different. You know what? And I'm okay with that.

Like, let's stop pretending. Okay. Anyways, I thought that was interesting. No, it's a conversation definitely worth having. Mm-hmm. But I also don't find

Morgan to be a villain in this situation at all. Me neither, but for people who don't know him prior and like this is their first introduction, I think for a lot of people, they're just not taking his side. Yeah. I'm not taking a side. Like I don't think there's a side to be taken. Like really nothing crazy happened. Yeah. Really nothing crazy happened, everyone. They just grew apart. They didn't have enough to keep them wanting to fight for this relationship and at the end of the day she didn't

know if she wanted kids anymore like that could happen in any relationship where two people get married they want a family and then seven years go by and like if the woman is like I don't know that changes a relationship of course done period no like doesn't even matter about the cmas in the couch at that point no you're right like it's not really about sides it's not hearing everyone out not for me it's honestly just about the human experience for me and about the nature of relationships but then also sprinkled with a little bit how success and Hollywood and fame could impact those things. Yes, for sure. To me, it's just all about the human experiment called life.

Jackie, that's beautiful. Thank you, Turdilicious. You're welcome. Next up. Actually, we have two Mean Girls drama stories today. Like the movie or like Girls Being Mean? Both. Oh, is this Kylie, Selena?

Kylie, Selena, Hailey, they're all in it. Kylie Jenner denies silly rumor that she and Hailey Bieber dissed Selena's eyebrows. Kylie Jenner is setting the record straight on speculation that she and Hailey shaded Selena's eyebrows. The star Kylie called the rumor silly in a TikTok comment on Wednesday. She said, this is reaching no shade towards Selena ever. And I didn't see her eyebrows post. You guys are making something out of nothing. So Kylie posted a series of Instagram stories yesterday,

like close up of her eyes and eyebrows. One picture is like a little funky. She goes, this was an accident. Then we get Hailey's eyes and eyebrows. And then it turns out that actually Selena had posted something of her really overly laminated eyebrows saying like, oops, I overly laminated my eyebrows. So people thought like Kylie and Hailey's videos after that

were like mocking like Selena's new crazy eyebrows. But I didn't even think Selena's eyebrows looked that bad. The way these three TikToks had absolutely nothing to do with each other, not Kylie's to Hailey's, not't even think Selena's eyebrows looked that bad. The way these three TikToks had absolutely nothing to do with each other, not Kylie's to Hailey's, not Kylie's to Selena's. And honestly, here's what I've learned, because this is like the second time this week we're even talking about this, because a few days ago, people thought one of Hailey's TikToks was a reference to Selena's getting body shamed. And then totally separately, Hailey had used a TikTok sound that's like,

I'm not saying she deserved it, but God's timing is always right. Which is just like a funny, cute sound that's gone viral. There's like over a million uses of that sound. Had nothing to do with Selena. Selena's fans thought it was like, you know, Hailey commenting on, you know, Selena deserved to get body shamed. And then Selena commented like, oh, it's okay okay I don't let stuff get me down like kind of agreeing that. Victor Morgan Evans. Victim mentality and now I think because Selena commented that on

that thing last week her fans are looking for more stuff to see like people coming for Selena so in a way like I do feel like Selena definitely fed the the fan flamed fan the flames of her fandom last week and now that's why they're coming for Kylie and Hailey again and no one was coming for anyone not one of these things is actually like a legitimate reference to anything Selena has done and honestly this is just like the toxicity of fan base is getting out of control again yeah also like Kylie's been posting a lot of stuff of close-ups of her eyes I think she's coming out with a mascara so I think they're doing a Kylie cosmetics like relaunch I think that all the photos were meant to highlight eyelashes not eyebrows and she's in front of her pink screen I think she's doing like a video with Hailey. I don't even know.

I can't even try and understand what they're trying to do. But like she runs a makeup company. I wonder if Kylie and Selina, like obviously Kylie's friends with Hailey. So she's team Hailey. But like Kylie and Selina have their own little beef about like who's the number one beauty guru in this group. So I actually, not until five seconds ago, thought about that too. Like that they both have these competing,

really successful, like billion dollar makeup brands. I actually don't think they compete in the sense that like they're actually really different. Turdy, they compete. If an alien came down to earth, they would say these two things are the same. I know, but the way we didn't even think about the competition of their brands until right now, I feel like really highlights how different they are.

I feel like all the time when we talk about how Kylie Cosmetics is out and Rare Beauty is in, like we always talk about that. But let me just say, in terms of like actual competition, Rare Beauty is a Sephora exclusive brand. Kylie Cosmetics does not even sell at Sephora. They sell like everywhere else, direct-to-consumer, Ulta.

It's also, I think, like a little bit of a lower price point. And like aesthetically, like rare beauty is very like glowy, dewy, natural, clean girl. And Kyla Cosmetics is very like colorful, color pop, almost like more out there than like that subdued. Honestly, it's more dated in a sense. Like that's what makeup used to be like crazy color palettes.ettes and and now everything is like neutral and sad beige and that's very rare beauty yeah but at the end of the day like if I want to do my face full of makeup I can get the products from rare beauty or Kylie cosmetics and I'll pretty much look the same it's just about

how they package themselves like Kylie's very much like glam makeup Instagram makeup rare beauty's like you're beautiful the way that you are but here's a little makeup yeah what I say if you could do a full face of Rare Beauty or a full face of Kylie Cosmetics what would you do I think Kylie because I like a little more coverage okay I like 100% would choose Rare Beauty which is like so crazy to think about. We should do a vlog. You doing a full face. But that's the thing. Kylie doesn't even have foundations. She doesn't have like a full. Yes, she does.

Foundation. I'm pretty sure she does. She has concealer. I mean, now her website's down, of course. Oh, wait, no, it's back up. It's back up. She has concealer, but she does not have foundation. Let's go.

Let's go. Face. Blush, bronzer, highlights, setting powder. It's not like a full where's concealer you know and I know they're in this like rebuilding phase so it's maybe not fair to compare but like I definitely think Kylie Cosmetics definitely dropped the ball in a major way they were like you know really on the cusp the cutting edge of everything and then they just kept doing the same thing and like didn't evolve with trends like that cut crease green eyeshadow look is like not what people are

into anymore it's very much like the charlotte tilbury rare beauty like glow shiny like dewy look and honestly i wouldn't even know how to do that with kylie cosmetics they just like kept doing like grinch collabs yeah but that's also could be Cody you know and whatever yeah things they need to check off their list yeah so they are in competition no they are you're totally right even though I don't even think it's a competition right now because like Rare Beauty is supreme no but don't count out the Kylie no I won't and I'm sure I know they're in this rebuilding phase even though it's been taking like hell a long time um and I hope that she's she's like always been on the cutting edge of like trendy makeup so I don't know how her makeup brand doesn't reflect that

at like at all yeah they they definitely need to like step it up Cody's like kind of fucking it up and like dropping the ball with the Kardashian brands. Like KKW Beauty was like reformulating. Literally never came back. It didn't? No. I thought it came back recently. I don't think so. KKWbeauty.com.

It's like not loading. Right. So it's like, what the fuck are they doing? They spent $2 billion on those brands and what? I don't know. So that's a conversation worth having. And I feel like actually if I wasn't doing this for a job, I feel like I could actually like do a really good job working at Cody

and like strategy for these brands. What would your strategy be? Like they need to get with the times. Like it's so dated. Like for me. For sure. But like how so? Specifics.

Okay. so dated. Like for me. For sure. But like how so? Specifics. Okay. So Kylie needs to like drop this like very Jeffree star, like, um, aesthetic. It's very like colorful and pigmented. And I think even when, when that was the vibe, I don't think the formulas were that great. And so she really needs to like evolve a little bit in terms of like what the makeup trends are right now which is like more glowy more dewy less full coverage more fluffy eyebrows and neutral tones um and actually kkw beauty was doing that when they were in stock but it was like a little honestly a little too before the trends and people have said that like the cake everyone was like guffawing over Kylie cosmetics like real makeup experts know like the KKW Beauty formulas were the best like so good but like everyone was like the packaging wasn't great and everyone was like obsessed with Kylie at the time that they were like not noticing KKW Beauty yeah so I don't I don't know honestly how

the two brands are going to exist if they they are. They should really, Cody should merge them. Yeah, but like what about people like me who like still to have coverage on their face and don't all of a sudden like want to be looking like, you know, the end of a doorknob. Shiny, shiny. I feel like you have like a really big misconception of what like the the current trend is it's definitely more natural but it's still like hella full coverage for real like I know you think like rare beauty is like a dot on your face no I have I like the rare beauty products that I use but I use them in the way that I use Kylie stuff like I look like highlight that's what

that's what everyone does most people aren't like wearing no makeup it's just like it's a lot of makeup to look like you're wearing less makeup that's like the the trends right now got it I don't take trends with my face okay I don't do trends with my face I do what looks best for yeah girl a hundred percent And I'm not alone, but I'm also not everyone. So by the way, back to my original point about the Selena fans here. I just feel like they are really toxic. No, they need a life. They need a job.

They need a hobby. These people have too much time on their hands to evaluate every video, compare it to the other one, just like get off the internet these are like the fans that like bullied hayley bieber into doing an interview like these are the fans that jelly like these are those people and honestly like selena engaging with them and like agreeing with their yeah hayley's coming for me like really is like feeding the the farm animals which you're not supposed to do and i feel like it make it makes them even more empowered to keep going. And that's what's happening now with Kylie.

They really need to stop. No, and also like if Hailey and Kylie ever are shading Selena intentionally, like I'm not going to believe that that's what they're doing because like it's like the boy who cried wolf. No, and it's like, let me see it. If I ever, like I'm, maybe they would. And I'll take a look and see if that's what they're doing. No, I'm just going to assume that the Jelena stans are reading into something because that's

what they're always doing. Selena's been like kind of going rogue on social media recently. Yeah. I think these comments, you know, being like this victim, me victim are in line with her going rogue on social media. Yeah. Just like take the phone away. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Mean Girls drama. The Mean Girls stars, original stars, may not return for the new movie over disrespectful money offer.

So Original Plastics, Lindsay Lohan, Rachel McAdams, Amanda Seyfried, and Lacey Shabert have all agreed to return for the new Mean Girls musical movie, but talks have stalled over Paramount's disrespectful money offer. The stars of the original 2004 classic have remained friends throughout the years and were willing to return for the film, which is bringing the Broadway musical version of

Mean Girls to streamer Paramount+. Quote, the production source says, Paramount Pictures doesn't want to pay the girls what they are worth. All four girls are willing to come back, but Paramount has not been respectful of what they are worth uh page six is told that rachel mcadams who played regina george was initially offered a larger part than the other a larger sum to play um a part in the movie than the others but the deal had not been signed off and as of now all negotiations are stalled tina fey who both wrote the movie and musical is reprising her role as math teacher Miss Norbury.

She's reportedly signed a seven-figure deal for her acting role. She's also writing and producing the movie, while the girlies were said to be offered a fraction of that. I mean, it's so interesting because I think if they want to negotiate well, they should really all be negotiating as as a team even though like why would Amanda Seyfried and Lacey Chabert get the same like in this current you know climate get the same pay pay it's actually crazy when you think about like how that film launched really launched Amanda Seyfried Rachel McAdams Lindsay Lohan was already a star and then she went on after that to

be like just as big of a star as everyone else. And Lacey Chabert kind of got left behind. She's out here doing Hallmark. She's a queen of Hallmark. She's a queen, I'm just saying. She's a queen of Hallmark, and Rachel McAdams is the queen of the Oscars, you know? Yeah.

It's just interesting. Honestly, sure, you would think you wouldn't be queen of the Oscars, but I think she has a nice life. I think so, too. Who's happier? Who's happier? Who's happier? Um I have so many different thoughts about this. Like on the one hand yeah they should be as a group. They kind of do well deserve the same because also the three like Lindsay, Amanda

Safey, Rachel McAdams are really big stars. They deserve roughly the same and ergo Lacey should get the same. She shouldn't get less. And they have the the same role not one of them is like a star I guess Lindsay Lohan technically but it's unclear if they would be their original characters they might just be like cameos in the background like a nod to the original film which kind of makes me depressed but also seeing them as their original characters would make me depressed like I don't want to see Regina George as, like... You know what I would like? The superintendent. No, I think it would be cool if it's their kids.

But then it still focuses on them, and I think the Mean Girls musical is just the same story. Like, we have Janice Ian again, we have Katie. It's not... Oh, you're right. They're not writing a new movie. Oh, you're right, you're right. They're just going to, like, play people in the background, which is just going to make me feel old and sad for real. again we have Katie it's not you're not writing a new movie oh you're right you're right they're just gonna like play people in the background which is just gonna make me feel old and sad

for real like even though it's nice that they want to be on board I actually think like it's a little it will be a little weird let me say how I could see it going that way but I actually really trust Tina Fey like for sure she doesn't put out shit you know she's not putting out crap no she doesn't do anything just for money and um Mr. Duvall to play their original parts because like that's a no-brainer you could be a teacher forever but the girls don't really fit into the story and I feel like trying to make them fit would be a little distracting and a little sad when there's like the new we have the new crop we have a Reneenee rap is playing regina george like oh is she in the movie renee yes she's in the

movie we announced the cast um a while ago we have andre rice who's playing katie heron uh oh a loyally uh a luli cravalho played moana is playing janice Ian and Jaquel Spivey will play Damien I think it's so like interesting and sad that Ashley Park is not in it from she plays um in Emily in Paris the I forgot her name the friend who sings yeah she got she blew up because she was in Mean Girls on Broadway she's like an amazing singing voice. What? I have a fun fact, but continue. Wait, so. But she's not in the film.

Who did she play on Broadway? Can you Google that for me? I'll Google it. You know, I got it. I got it. I'm already in the. What's your fun fact? My fun fact is that Aaron Samuels is going to be played by Jeremiah from The Summer I

Turned Pretty. Oh, that's good. Perfect casting. Oh, wait. Jeremiah. The one. That's the one. Oh, Conrad. Conrad. Sorry. Yeah Conrad sorry yeah yeah yeah okay so love that and a lot of people were wanting him to be cast in It Ends With Us like he's people really

love him I think they're really attracted to him yes um so I love that they got him for this she played Gretchen Wieners yeah she was amazing and people loved her and she blew up I know she's now in Emily in Paris, but I would love if she would return. Yeah. But I guess not. Well, you know what? I don't see a casting here for Gretchen, so.

It's up in the air. Jerry's still out. Also, she has an amazing singing voice, and this is a musical. Yeah. So I love that Rene Rapp is still being Regina. She's like turned into one of my favorite, from strangers to lovers to enemies um love that

I love her in sex lives of college girls like how cool she gets to work on a show like with Mindy Kaling and Tina Fey I feel like that's the dream for like an actress like if somebody said to me like what if you could be in any tv show like what would you like I would want it to be a Mindy Kaling production or a Tina Fey production. Like they're always successful. They're always actually funny. And then it's like iconic. Yeah. Gorgeous.

Gorgeous. So who knows what will happen with this? I don't know. I don't think, I don't think the original cast members being in it will make or break it. Honestly, I would like it. How much do you think they deserve?

And also knowing it's just going to be a cameo, not, you know, a whole ass role. I don't know like what the market is. it's just going to be a cameo, not, you know, a whole ass role. I don't know like what the market is. Like, I don't know what cameos get paid, but like a million dollars. So Tina Fey got seven figures to act in it.

Could be a million, could be nine million. She's also the writer of the original film. It's like she owns the franchise. Yeah, but I do think like the way that they worded this, I think she's getting paid separately for that. Because she reportedly has a seven-figure deal for her acting role. Dash, she's also writing and producing the movie, which is, like, other money. Yeah, well, she's in the whole movie.

She's a main character. These girls would probably just be cameos. So if they're getting a fraction of her acting... That's simple math. They will probably work one or two days, and she'd probably work a month. But they think they deserve more at being the originals

than there are the names that they are. All right, so maybe it's not going to work out. And you know what? I don't think it'll affect it in a way that, you know, in another franchise,

like a major person not returning would affect it, you know? Oh, yeah. Because they won't have major roles regardless. Yeah, I don't, honestly, it would be cool to see them all get back together,

but like, I don't really care because I want to see the musical them all get back together, but like, I don't really care. Because I want to see the musical. I actually never saw it on Broadway and I heard it was amazing. So I want to see the musical just like period. And I don't think that'll change whether the four of them are in it. Yeah, but I also think it could be

like a no hard feelings thing. Like Rachel McAdams is like, listen, I don't get out of bed for less than a million dollars. But if you can't afford that, then okay, then we won't do it. Like it's not a big deal but it has to be all or nothing agreed not two of them Lacey Chabert shows up with Lindsay Lohan and then the other two don't

like no yeah no no but if it's just like a little cameo like why do they need like a huge payday if it's just like them like crossing the street or like they go to the mall and there's just like these women like having lunch like I know you need a million dollars for that like no like do it for the culture do you know the culture totally okay our next story some exciting news is it some exciting news that perchance happens to be brought to you by our new sponsor the black talks yes yes it is let me tell you I Black Tux. Yes, yes it is. Let me tell you, I'm excited. You'll find out why it is. Not to get all parental, but it's time we had the talk. You know the one about that three-letter word that ends in X? You'll probably experience

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and revealing the name that she's given him. On her iHeartRadio podcast, This is Paris, the new mom revealed her baby boy's name, which is Phoenix. His name is Phoenix. And then his whole name is Phoenix Baron Hilton Maximilian Room. Everyone was like tagging me like, Claudia, you were right. What did I say? Okay, that's kind of rude because I feel like it was me who said it's going to be a city.

Like I think I thought it would be a city and I thought it was going to be like. No, I actually think I said that. Honestly, I said it because I was talking about that movie Money Heist, the show Money Heist. Oh, yeah. They're all named after cities. So then I just started, you know, Denver. Honestly, like Denver is a very warm guess.

Like, yeah. Same region. And he also said it was going to be a name that was like a real name, something that's like you could actually conceive of, not just a bunch of letters put together. And Phoenix is like Dorit's baby boy is Phoenix. No, it's like it's not like a super common name, but it is a name. It's not like a new word that celebrity made up and is like it's a name.

Yeah, like if you're looking at baby name lists, like it would come up. Yeah, it's a name that's like a real name. Also a city like we hit all the points of what she was looking for of course my ultimate prediction was Maximilian maybe the next one I guess there's no city max no now it's like that's clear what she's doing it's like a theme and I like that it's also a p phoenix in Paris like it's cute I like it a lot and it's also it was surprisingly normal yeah so this is what she said about it she explained that she thought of the name 10 years ago sharing the story

while reading an excerpt from her upcoming memoir of Paris so there's this is like a little you know um teaser Russian nesting doll of Paris's promos yeah on her podcast she read an excerpt from her memoir about her baby's name saying, quote, If all goes well, by the time you read this, Carter and I will have a baby boy. We plan to name him Phoenix, a name that I decided on years ago when I was searching cities, countries and states on a map looking for something to go with Paris and London. Phoenix has a few good pop culture reference points, but more importantly, it's the bird that flames out and then rises from the ashes to fly again. I want my son to grow up knowing that disaster and triumph go around and come around throughout our lives and that this should give us great hope for the future. Gorgeous.

She also explained that his middle name, Baron, is a tribute to her late grandfather, who was always her mentor, Baron Hilton. Love, it's a very prestigious Phoenix, Baron Hilton room. It's a long, it's a royal prestigious phoenix baron hilton room it's a it's a long it's a royal name it sounds i like it but it's also modern it's also very paris and it's also very hilton and i guess room as well yeah no it really it has it all i think this is a great i feel satiated satiated i like that she gave us an explanation so if i'd'd seen Phoenix, I would have just been like, oh, it's a cool name. But yes, a phoenix rising from the ashes. Yes, Paris, tell us more. I really do. I love that metaphor about a phoenix. I really, I think it's beautiful. I really do. And

I think it's a very apropos in life. And I really love it. Who has that song, Phoenix? Gonna rise like a phoenix. I have no idea. Let them see you rise. Hey, hey. You know it? Sounds like a train. It's Olivia Holt. I thought Sabrina Carpenter. There's no way I was going to know that.

No, no. But I was thinking Sabrina Carpenter. It's a good song. Check it out. I think that's what inspired Paris. Check it out. Are you ready for what inspired Paris. Check it out. Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

Yes. Giselle Bundchen has transformed for her first Vogue cover since Tom Brady divorce. Vogue Italia. Once again, American Vogue

not getting the scoop for, you know, the great American football star's wife, but okay. Right. And they could have had like a gargess shoot with her. Instead, she's on the cover of Vogatalia looking edgy,

which isn't my favorite. It's like the worst word to describe. Like if I ever came into the room and be like, do you like this outfit? And you said, yeah, it's edgy, I would burn it immediately. No, like her hair is dyed red, and I can be the first to say it doesn't look good because I am a redhead but it's like

bright red she has red thin eyebrows red lips edgy and a red dress honestly she looks like a fashion clown yeah she also doesn't look like herself you know no she doesn't like she's a gorgeous woman and I get that she's a model and you're supposed to like you know be just like a muse in this blank canvas but when you become a model who's also like a superstar and you get known for being Giselle not just being a model like you want to lean into that look and also the Vogue Italia of it all seems so random to me if it had been like Vogue Brazil okay I would have loved that you know yeah but I don't know it just feels random yeah there is one

photo in the shoot where she's not being edgy fashion model doll muse where she's being Giselle she's wearing like a Dolce dress and her hair is her hair color um and she this should have been the cover shot but that's beautiful it's natural it's sun-kissed it's Brazilian it's also fashion but like if this were like America like she should have been on the cover of American Vogue like by the beach yeah beachy waves yeah gorgeousness Giselle in my own words love Giselle life is not a game no that's not my favorite no but it's like football no I get it no no I don't think you got it. Let me think. Hold on. Let me think.

Hold on. Like, Giselle, Touchdown America or something. Hold on. I'm really, I'm tired. Just give me a second. Giselle. I don't know. Sound off in the comments.

What should the subtitle have been? Yeah, if we had a few more minutes, we could think of something like Giselle running into the end zone. Yeah, or like something about starting fresh. Yeah. But like in a sports reference, you know? Yeah. New season or something. Turning the other cleat. Okay, that's like a little too direct, you know? Yeah. New season or something.

Turning the other cleat. Okay, that's like a little too direct, you know? Okay, okay. Something about a new season, like a new season of sports, you know? Yeah. What do they say about it? They say it's a new season, you know? That's what they say.

Giselle has her Monday nights back. That's actually probably like a really good point. Ands Thursdays and Sundays right Giselle getting her week back and says she's on the cover of Vogue Italia in an interview that um is an Italian and she's looking edgy donning an all red Maison Valentino look complete with matching nails and fiery red hair and lips. And a string of other photos that you can check out for yourself. She also just went viral. I don't know if you saw this video of her dancing like a traditional Brazilian dance in like this crop top and low waist pants. No, sickening.

Sickening. Did she go viral for being sickening? Yeah. Love that for her. Yeah, and it's just kind of like the year of Giselle I think yeah but this photo just doesn't sum that up for me because she looks like any model who could be on the cover who's just being like a model a model a chameleon a chameleon like a blank canvas a mannequin of sorts yeah but like is it about this Mason Valentino dress or is it about Giselle it is

supposed to be about Giselle because the dress is not dressing enough for me. It ain't dressing. It ain't balsamic. No, and honestly, the other pictures from the shoot are like so much more interesting. Even the edgy ones. Right, but the one they chose for the cover

is not covering is what you're saying? Yeah, it's just, I like, you know, beautiful tings. What can I say? You're kind of crazy like that um so those are the past five you definitely need to know all but the last if I'm being honest um no but we had fun with it and that's what we do here we're not okay we're not like you know the news you need to know okay after five years I'll admit it but we're having fun we're having fun and the show's not

over because it's dear toasters time our weekly advice segment usually happens on wednesdays but yesterday was kind of crazy um where you can write in and get advice from your girls about anything that's going on in your life it's always anonymous so the email is deartoasters at gmail.com we've got three great submissions today and i'm i'm ready to. Are you? Yeah, let's do it, Turdy. Hello, Gen Z's big sister and La Turd. Over the past year, I've gotten into reading thanks to you hoes. I recently started posting my book reviews on my Instagram stories. On my latest review, I received a DM from a friend saying she thought she just bought the book and is so excited to start reading. But here's my dilemma. There's a baby girl that dies in the book and she has the same name as my friend's daughter. It's a somewhat common name, but not the usual suspects like Sarah or Emily. I know it'll definitely catch

her attention. I know if I were reading a book and there was a child with my daughter's name who died, it would really affect me in a negative way. Should I tell her this beforehand or am I being too sensitive? Is it worth ruining a book she just paid money for? The death is pretty monumental to the story. I appreciate your help in advance. Sincerely, Illiterate Girls Girl. Don't tell Ben. Oh my God, that's a really tricky one.

I know. That actually happens to me sometimes where people are like, would I like this book? And I know there's something in the book that will trigger this person just based on, and I'll say no. Right. But that, you could say, like if it was an event that happened that's you know would be personal to that person's life you could give a like a little bit of a warning be like I don't know if this would be right for you just you know given everything

that you've gone through but this is different because that hasn't happened but it's just like spooky and eerie and who wants to read that. Right. I don't know. I feel like it's okay. It's a name like Sarah, she said. She said it's pretty common, but not like really common, like Rachel, Sarah, Emily. It's not like one, but it's not like a random, like usiferous, you know, one of the odds.

Yeah, yeah. Usiferous. You know, Eugenia. But you don't want to spoil the book. I know. And she bought it already. I honestly don't know what to tell you. I feel like it's okay.

Yeah. It's spooky-ooky, but it's not triggering. You know? Yeah, yeah. It's just spooky-ooky, but it's not like something that she can't handle because of something that she like it's not what um what I was thinking it was going to be which has been like she's been through something similar like in which case I always issue a trigger warning if it's a book that like someone of course uh but I I think you just I think you just leave it this one out yeah I agree all right next up hey my girls I adore you and leave it. Fit this one out. Yeah, I agree. All right, next up.

Hey, my girls. I adore you, and listening to the toast is the highlight of my day. Today, my boyfriend, who I've been dating for about six months, told me I'd gained a, quote, shitload of weight since we started dating after looking at an old photo of me. He then proceeded to tell me he didn't want to be with someone who was just getting fatter and fatter. How would you proceed?

I can admit I put on a few pounds in the last six months, but if anyone knows, I know. He then proceeded to tell me he didn't want to be with someone who was just getting fatter and fatter. How would you proceed? I can admit I put on a few pounds in the last six months, but if anyone knows, I know. I don't need him to berate me for one of my biggest insecurities. Sincerely, a toaster who loves her brownies. I'm just shook because it sounds like, based on your question, how would you proceed, that this man is still alive. And that's just unacceptable because he should be dead in a ditch you know and I would have happily been the one to help bury this this lard this fucking asswipe and literally no world is this okay you absolutely have to run especially the part where because sometimes men can be stupid so him saying like oh, oh, you've gained weight. Like, okay.

It wasn't an observation. It was like an insult. No, the second half of I don't want to be with someone who keeps gaining more and more. Then goodbye. Right. And to be honest, someone who's like so aware and like turned on and off by weight. Like obviously has a mental illness. Yeah.

And that's so not someone you want to be with. And that will even notice a few pounds like it's so not someone you want to be with long term because life is long no and if you want to have babies oh my god fluctuate and even if you don't want to have babies like things happen like you get depressed you lose weight you gain weight you you know things happen I've never experienced a more clear dear toasters in my life six months goodbye yeah it's not even that long term of relationship like goodbye you're you'd be better off being alone than being with somebody so miserable and quite frankly unwell yeah goodbye good day sir I said good day sir all right last one hey Jax and Claude I'm a gen z toaster here i did not though find you guys on tiktok i found you guys through kenzie elizabeth and the snatchler the snatchler this is so

interesting and i chose it because i think it'll spawn an interesting discussion and i want to hear what people have to say in the comments okay so i'm currently a sophomore in college i'm 20 years old and my parents are really against credit cards. I have a job and steady income and I'm not in a financial situation where I really need one, but I realized credit score is objectively important as you get older, which means I should prepare now. I'm in a long-term relationship with a guy who's very smart financially. He has a great credit score and he thinks that I need to start building my credit. I see where he's coming from and I honestly agree. I'm leaning right now towards getting one just to use strictly for gas to build my credit.

The only issue is that the card will deliver to my home. They don't deliver to my address at school. And I don't feel like, and I did not feel like telling my parents about the credit card. Do I have a conversation or do I try and go home and snag it from the mail before they see it? Sincerely, a toaster who is sheltered and just needs to mature financially. So I thought this was really interesting because obviously like you're an adult and getting a credit card is not crazy at all. And like either just tell your parents or go sneak it. Like you don't, you can fly on your own. But I thought it was really interesting, like really random, like obscure kind of specific things

that you grew up like not being allowed to do that. Like you grew up and realized like, oh, it's totally normal. Like everyone does that, you know? Yes. So having a credit card oh it's totally normal like everyone does that you know yes um so having a credit card it's not like demonic or anything no but I didn't have a credit card I had my own debit card I didn't have a credit card until like well into my 20s yeah I got my first credit card at 22 or 23 and then but I felt like I was delayed in doing that. No, I remember like even when I was living on my own and I was paying rent and I didn't have a credit card yet. And I don't remember what, oh, you know what? I got one when TPG came on the breath. So that's what I was going to say about that Sapphire one. And I was like, you know what? I do need a credit card now. Cause I'm

playing everything on a debit card. But for a while, honestly, I wasn't ready for a a credit card because like I would like just run out of money at the end of the month and I feel like if I had a credit card like I would have spent money that I didn't have it sounds like this toaster is pretty fiscally responsible and she has the boyfriend who's fiscally responsible but you kind of can get carried away with a credit card and it's a lot of responsibility and I understand why your parents might be like you don't need one because it's just like just go and you want to build credit of course but like you're only 20 like you'll get there I didn't have a credit card till I guess I was 24 25 and I have a good credit now I'm 30 so I kind of see where they're coming from I wouldn't worry so much about my credit at 20 years old okay to be honest be honest, like, you can get the credit card or not get the credit card.

I think you can make an argument for both. I think getting your credit card is totally fine. As long as you're not racking up debt, you're paying your bills, you're making sure there's no interest, you're paying it in full. Like, you're fine. But I did want to know, like, what obscure things, like, you as a child were, like, not forbidden, but, like, your family just didn't do. That, like, when you like you as a child were like not forbidden but like your family just didn't do that like when you grew up you realized like oh that's just like a my family

thing you know what I mean yeah I feel like in our house we literally never not that we were weren't allowed but we just like we're not taking Tylenol do you know what I mean we're an Advil ibuprofen house and like even now to this day like I know it's the same thing kind of but like Tylenol is sus I don't know I have questions about oh and it doesn't fucking work yeah right I have my suspicions about Tylenol yeah me too Advil works and Tylenol doesn't but no I'm still hung up on the credit card thing because you know what I think back to it and like a couple girls that I know I'm not gonna name names who are very responsible people I know who you're talking about had and who had good solid jobs like salaried yeah like a couple people I know racked up some serious credit card debt yeah it was like a problem for them in their early 20s because you get carried away you do and like you can't you shouldn't

spend money that you don't have so why do you need a credit card unless you intend on doing that like why can't you just be debit like she is she wants to build credit why why she wants to buy a house she didn't say so like it's just because her boyfriend's telling her to do that and like I feel like he's saddling you with kind of a lot and what if he's not going to be like around so like you know and things just kind of can spiral yeah things can spiral like I feel like it's really important to preach the importance of like financial health and that's what Brian's always saying like don't do not get into the points and credit game if you are not

financially healthy like if you are in debt it is not for you yet yeah and there was like a while even I was working and I was like paying my own rent but I was not ready for a credit card same I would have just been out having dinners that I couldn't pay for yeah and I was even I was financially healthy at the time but I don't think I was mature enough to like really understand the responsibility of having access to debt yeah I think for a while you got to live with that debit card the money that you have is the money that you spend there is no in between yeah racking it up you pay it immediately like I kind of see where your parents are coming from the only thing is this girl she didn't say should I get a credit card she said should I tell my parents or not. That's what I'm saying so I just

want I want to answer her question but I also think it's important that we stress like to be careful with the credit card when you're young. but I think she should tell her parents one she clearly cares what they think and you shouldn't ever do something that you that you shouldn't be doing something that you feel is so wrong so if you feel like this is what's right for you want to build credit make the argument let them know you're an adult and this is what you're doing but also like in the off chance that you know you do find yourself in a bad spot with it like it's better that they know that you had instead of in a few years being like mom dad I need help I didn't listen to you and I need your help yeah no you're 100% right and also like you're not doing anything wrong or bad so like there's no need to lie yeah I agree

just make your case you feel so certain that credit card is the next step for you then explain it away now I really chose this because I want people to pop in the comments and let me know, like, what is a thing you just didn't do in your house that, like, you had an aversion to as you grew up? And then you realize, like, oh, like, no, this is normal. Like, everyone uses this thing. Like, for this girl, it was clearly credit cards. Yeah.

For us, it was Tylenol. For Lola from Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen, it was microwaves. It was microwaves. I'm trying to think. You have any others? No, it was microwaves it was microwaves I'm trying to think you have any others no it was really Advil um and it's that's I don't know why this is like so ingrained in my memory oh also tampons you know like we grew up in a house where it was like you know it wasn't forbidden but it was like you know tampons just like always go with a pad and then the older we got like we all just

decided to use tampons a couple of us found ourselves in some sticky situations where you needed a tampon right and then eventually like we transitioned to tampons but I think that's actually pretty common because of TSS and like a lot of like the chemicals and I don't think that's actually like a crazy thing that was in our house and I think that like when you first get your period like you should wear pads for as long as you can but I remember I was on a teen tour and we were doing an overnight in the desert. I mean, that's just hard whether you were using a pad or a tampon. But like, it was time for a tampon for your girl. Yeah. I remember the first time I needed a tampon too.

What was the situation? I think I was in Israel. And you know, Israeli tampons don't have- I was in Israel too. Oh, no way. Yeah, my teen tour. We slept in the desert. Israeli tampons don't have applicators. Yeah yeah my teen tour we slept in the desert israeli tampons

don't have applicators yeah that's i don't know if that's just israeli i think like a lot of foreign countries there are they're also like there are american ones that don't have applicators just right so it's just like this american ones that do it's a piece of cotton wrapped in cellophane and you just gotta like kind of raw dog it. Maybe now after having had my period for 15 years, I could do use one of those and like, but to use it on your first, that's not what I use. Like my friends on the trip had tampons.

So someone floated me one. Right. And I gave them a cigarette. It's like prison. So that was dear toasters. Thank you to everyone who wrote in again, that email is dear toasters at gmail.com we'll be back next Wednesday

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