The Toast - Was Junie Cortez Bulimic?: Monday, March 18th, 2024

Episode Date: March 18, 2024

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Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to the toast and happy, you know, Boo. Don't even say it, Claudia. It's a slur. No, and it's like saying it makes it real. HM. HM.

Hey, Mondays. Happy Monday. Oh, I didn't know if you were just like, you know, punctuating the end of the thought with just like a hashtag HM. No, I was trying to say the slur without saying it yeah i really actually think happy monday is a slur it is i agree happy monday hateful hateful rhetoric it's giving hateful rhetoric rhetoric it's giving misinformation you know it's not monday actually when you're like it's just not it's not Monday, actually. Like, it's just not. It's giving dehumanization. It's giving demoralization.

It is, but we are here to boost morale. We are, and I know everyone, wherever you are, is ushering in Monday in their own way, trying to stay above the line and make it through. And we're here to help you with that. We are. We'll get to the helpfulness. Yeah.

But first, the helpfulness starts now. Now, let me tell you, I've seen two celebrities in the past 24 hours. Wow. So yesterday I went to the kosher grocer to pick up a rotisserie chicken, obviously. Who do I see? Judith Light, Miss Claire Mead, of course, from Ugly Betty. Allegedly, she's also from Who's the Boss? But no, she's Claire Mead to me.

And the politician. And the politician. And American crime story, Gianni Versace. She's kind of like a Ryan Murphy groupie at this point. I accept that. Me too.

Saw her at the kosher grocer. Didn't even, she looked frazzled. I mean, everyone was frazzled. It was super busy yesterday. But she looked particularly frazzled and I didn't know she shopped kosher. You know, love that for Judith. And then on my way to work this morning, I'm waiting for the light with Makeup by Mario.

And I literally started talking to him. And it's like, he's one of the people I haven't seen in like five years. Jackie, he didn't recognize me. I'm like, it's Claudia. Like, people literally do not recognize me. And then actually, I didn't realize his office and ours are kind of close. So we walked for, you know, a couple of blocks together office sisters yeah and then I was like obviously feeling insecure about my makeup you know I kind of it was a Monday like I didn't do anything crazy

yeah and I was feeling like maybe I should have tried a little bit harder like was he looking you know maybe but I'm sure he has his own things on his mind it's a Monday for him too so true I don't think he goes around judging everyone's makeup all the time. I feel like there might have been a point in his career when he did but now he's like so desensitized. I feel like he's giving grace. I would hope he's giving grace because I'm like literally not even wearing foundation you know. But you look beautiful so maybe like he's impressed with your natural beauty. He did say before he left like wow so good to see you claudia i'm really impressed with your natural beauty oh he said your name again yes so then he didn't know who you were yes i feel like that's what you do when you're like ah yes claudia thank you claudia

okay first of all i was joking he didn't say that second of all like he was like referencing like are you still doing the podcast like he knew bitch oh he knows he's doing now she's involved and she's like oh he said he was like really say that I was like I'm going to work he's like work I'm like the like uh I'm like my studio who's like oh yeah you're still doing the podcast you have what type of guests you have did he want to come on the show well I said we don't really have guests I feel like that kind of shed a tear but Mario's always welcome now that that I know he lives in- Meanwhile, he's looking at the episode with Chris Appleton. They say they don't have guests.

That was years ago. And by the way, I was wondering because I didn't want to bring it up. Was Mario on our show? I feel like he was. No? No. No. Okay.

Not that I remember. And I think I remember. Yeah. But some sort of collaboration, I do do believe has once happened between you and him but not on our show okay well he remembered bitch don't be rude um and it was just kind of like an amazing New York City moment you know meanwhile he's at his office being like this girl because anybody know who this girl is she knows me walk three blocks and she's talking about me on her podcast on her little podcast okay i feel like you're making the like it was

a great like new york moment and you're just like being jealous and trying to destroy it and you can't bring me down or mario i won't bring you down you can't bring mario down either i believe mario knew turney of course why why do you even make it like he didn't? I believe women. Not this one. No, I'm saying I believe you. Okay. I'll remember this.

Oh, wait. I'm sorry. How was your weekend otherwise? My phone's ringing. It's my best friend Mario. Yeah, hello? No, I i know she's so jealous of us we'll walk we'll walk home from work together okay cool love you bye we have the police will be there with their restraining order

i literally fucking hate you. So yeah, I'm going to walk home. I'll probably get lunch with Mario too. Lock her up. Throw away the key. Stop. Like, not you making my nice story. Like, I hate you. That's your best friend.

Stop. No, it's not. It was just like a nice moment god she's so jealous because she doesn't run into anyone in florida excuse him why why would you who'd you run into on the way to work today olivia harry jealous harry jealous harry jowsey harry jowsey anyways how was your weekend? It was nice. It was long as fuck because I was being a single parent. I went three days accident free.

Yesterday I like woke up off, you know, and I just like the whole schedule was off. He had two accidents right in the morning. Like I fucked it up. I don't know what I was doing. I have a very clear schedule. I don't know why. It was Sunday. It's Sunday.

Romeo needs to learn about the days of the week and the weekend. So that Sunday things are a little what they call lazy. Yeah yeah and he was not like getting the memo about laziness so he just uh peed in my bed and took a dump on my floor so that was great um peeing in the bed cuts deep yeah does it all not all the time but like kind of often he just like likes to pee in the bed if he's gonna have an accident he thinks it's like that's rough funny about him and like oh my god the way my bed is not the same for like three days the whole process of stripping waiting drying etc i will say romeo has peed in my bed twice now in his you know time here on earth and both times it was on just the throw blanket it's almost like he's doing it in a way that minimizes so i just had to throw the blanket in the wash. Mickey Couture. If he pees like on your do they do spot clean or do you strip?

Very, very, very good question. Depends on the pee. If it sinks all the way down. I am not opposed to seriously like spot cleaning with like you have to absorb all the pee and then using like a dog urine and stain odor and stain whatever. And also it's like what I do my sheets on Wednesdays how close are we to Wednesday if it's Thursday or Friday I have to do the whole thing anything is it the foot of the bed or where I rest my head very different places also a good

question but when Romeo is on my bed he lays on on this like very thick throw blanket. So more often than not. Bruce style. Bruce style. I'm glad you asked. Ben returned last night. I haven't walked Romeo since. Ben is like seriously, I don't think he knows that he's in the D-O-D-A-double-G dog house.

Like girl, I'm so done. Like I did so much work. Ben was gone Wednesday to Sunday. We have a 13 week old puppy. Unforgivable. Oh, my God. Ben worked so hard last night. He gets into bed.

He's like, oh, my God. I'm like, are you complaining? No, it's only just beginning. It's only just begun. Oh, and then, of course, this morning, I have the schedule down pat. I worked, like, literally trial and error over all last week. I know what works and what doesn't work. The second Ben is in charge this morning.

I tell him exactly what to do. He takes Romeo out for his second poop like a little bit earlier. And of course, it fucks up the whole morning like I said it would. And he's running around the house

like holding Romeo because Romeo hasn't peed yet. He can't run free until he's emptied his bladder. Ben's like, this is so annoying. I'm like, I literally told you what to do.

You didn't follow the rules. Now you pay the consequences. Well, he's going to have to learn the hard way. Yeah. Which sometimes is the only way to learn. Yeah. Unfortunately. Yeah.

So my weekend was filled with a lot of, you know, Romeo time, a lot of me time. I worked out twice. I feel as though I deserve a medal. You know, I had a couple cocktails, played pickleball. It was kind of a well-balanced weekend. What about you? My weekend was well-balanced too. Extremely physical and tiring.

Like my body so tired at the end of the day, especially Saturday. Like it felt like body aches. Like I have the flu, but I'm not sick. You were just like exerting lots of energy. I don't know why my body hurt so much. Yeah. But it was a really great, it was a great weekend. Family fun, et cetera, et cetera.

What more could you ask for? Literally nothing. Yeah. It was good. Busy. So some personal news. I'm supposed to start my period today. Okay.

Supposed to, meaning? Meaning, let me tell you. I wanted to find a new gynecologist. You know, my friend Margo had raved about her gynecologist. So I was like, you know what? Let me give it a shot. Oh my God, it took me two months to get an appointment. I guess like if you're like not pregnant, like you're like deprioritized, you know?

Like you just need a pap smear, girl, you can wait. I was like, okay. Waited and waited and waited. I'm doing my schedule last week for this week looking. I'm like, oh yeah, I have got that appointment. Let me put that on my calendar. Oh, wait. And then I'm just starting thinking, oh, and I'm I'm filling out the forms oh my god the form was like 100 pages long date of last period date of expected next period I'm like oh my god I'm supposed to get my period on the day I've been waiting months for this appointment

and I don't know can you get a pap smear with your period like no it's like disrespectful no yeah I think that you can but it's not ideal well I. Yeah, I think that you can, but it's not ideal. Well, I sent an email. I'm like, hey, I'm just not realizing like my appointment. I'm actually supposed to start my period. Like, can I get my checkup? If like, and they were like, honestly, if you're bleeding heavily, no. I'm like, fuck, but I haven't gotten it yet.

So hopefully she just waits till the end of the day or maybe she's a day late this week, you know? Okay. And maybe I'll just run. Maybe I'll just, no, literally. Oh, and by the way, oh my God, I'm so dumb. I forgot to wear underwear today. That's like really crazy of me. I totally forgot.

That's really crazy. Honestly, because I was thinking like, I don't want to have to like do anything with my underwear at the doctor's office. So you intentionally, you intentionally didn't wear underwear. No, I actually, I don't wear underwear really anymore. That's like kind of a thing. You know, my new life, I've like changed so much about my life in the last year. Like one of those things is I pretty much never wear underwear unless it's

control top. That's really crazy. I know. Will never, could never, should never be me. And then another thing that I was having a conversation with Ben and he thought it was so weird. When I got to bed last night, I was like, you know what? I'm actually going to stop telling this story because you know what? Boundaries, personal space, privacy. You don't have to share every thought you had just because you have a podcast. I'm learning that slowly. It's so important.

But I'll tell it to you afterwards. It's nothing even crazy or salacious. I just, Ben said it was weird that I said this thing and like I didn't think it was weird. Yeah, keep things private. Yeah, yeah. I feel, Ben said it was weird that I said this thing and like, I didn't think it was weird. Yeah, keep things private. Yeah, yeah, I feel like I already

shared enough, you know, about my pap smear and my appearance. Right, that was a lot. It was, but that's just kind of

what I've been dealing with and that's what this whole show is about. Like, it's true. I waited months for this appointment. Mon plan.

God bleeds. Okay. Well, no, it's holding up. Until it's not. Okay, well, we'll get on with the show so that hopefully you can beat your period. No, literally. When Ben's here, beat the croonch.

Today, beat the period. I love that. It's really beautiful. What else? You see any celebrities this weekend? Did I see any celebrities this weekend? i see any celebrities this weekend what did i do on saturday why can't i get a hold of my saturday did you go to the farm i went to the farm on sunday the fuck did i do

i'll give you a minute yeah give me a minute oh while you think about that i can tell you what i did last night and that was i finally began the final season of Young Sheldon five episodes have come out let me tell you they don't make tv like that they really don't make tv like that I was cackling oh my god me and Ben laughing so hard what a well-written show I got I got sidetracked with Young Sheldon and you're missing out like we watched five episodes last night and by the way let me tell you Sheldon is so grown and they obviously like the writers of the show know that like Sheldon's annoying and like it's when Sheldon was really young and cute and sweet like his dumb Sheldon antics were like cute now he's like 17 and he's like far too old to be acting this way I they really the show is not about him I think he's in the show 10% of the time really

they're focusing on other characters because I don't know if you saw this. We didn't even make it a story. They've announced a spinoff. Called? Well, I don't want to spoil it for you. I don't know what it's called, but it's centered around the older brother, Georgie.

Oh, cute. Because he's at this place in his life. Can I tell you what ends up happening with Georgie? Sure. He gets a girl pregnant and it's Emily Osment

and she becomes like a main character in the show and he becomes like a dad and it's actually really sweet. They still live like a main character in the show, and he becomes like a dad, and it's actually really sweet. They still live at home. So I'm curious what other characters from the show, like I need Connie, and I need George Cooper.

Everybody else I don't need, but I need them to stay in the new show. It's like, it's literally magic in a bottle. The fact that they have to end it, and I get why they do, because it's a prequel, and it can only go so far in Sheldon's life. What if Sheldon leaves the show,

and it's like, oh, we know he goes to college or something. Bye. Right. That's what it should be. Because they're doing that with Georgie. But are they keeping all the other characters? Like, is it the same set and everything? I literally need the show to not change.

Jackie, we were laughing so hard. It's so well written. Oh my God, we were cackling. Like, how they could end, they end shows that are so much worse. I know, but sometimes you want to go out on a high no but how about those sitcoms those sitcoms could go on forever that's true they don't have those standards like we want it to be a perfect piece of art it's like let's just

keep going until they pull the plug yeah like that's what those it's like a soap opera yeah you need to keep watching Sheldon it's so good good. Okay. Maybe I'll get back to it. I've been watching all weekend Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. And last night I made it to reunion part one. I made major headway thanks to a little bit of fast forwarding. Let me tell you, I also randomly turned on Bravo and the reunion was on. And I was like, you know what? They show you the packages. I could have caught up on the whole season just in the reunion.

And I watched most of the reunion. And they went through the whole season without Kyle's marriage being like a major major storyline because basically what happens is they film the final party which is their white party at SoFi Stadium which was so crazy and actually emblematic of Kyle and Mauricio's marriage it's like this party used to be like their family thing like she would cook for it they would make the stencils for the backdrop for the photo wall and now it's like so big and massive and successful and huge at SoFi Stadium Mauricio like didn't even know where it was his friend was like you're having a party at SoFi Stadium he's like yeah I guess it's like in the

parking lot or something like he didn't even realize they got the stadium they don't even talk but their life is so like big and glamorous anyways it's very emblematic how good does that feel so the final finale party is at SoFi Stadium and then afterwards the People magazine article drops like I think it's one month later or one week later or something so she finished filming the season without really having to that's really manipulative even though they talk about it a little bit and she has conversations with Dorit like we're having a really hard year and Dorit's like same PK's traveling she's like same Mo's traveling but it's like clear that it's like one couple is going through a hard time the other couple is on the brink of divorce like yeah we are they're not the

same um so we don't really get to the meat of the issue until the reunion where it's like okay now we have to talk about everything that's happened in the last few months Morgan Wade Mauricio tattoos ring all of it now meaning something else than what it meant all season of, you know, Kyle was just going through a Kyle renaissance. No, it's more than that. That's like, so like kind of lame of Kyle, you know, to be a professional reality star. It's not like she just joined this show. Like she is a professional reality star of 15 years. And I understand that there's, you know, parts of your life you want to keep private, but to really go so far out of your way to not include a singular part of this huge life-changing

moment on the show, that's lame. Yeah. Especially because the way Kyle describes it most of the time is like her and Mauricio almost, they're growing, they're growing very much apart. They're both working so much traveling and they're not connecting at all that there wasn't this one big thing. That is the reason why they're divorcing. They're just kind of like two ships passing, not connecting, whatever, which makes it, I can understand why you might not mention that on the show. Cause it's like, I don't know that divorce is in our future. We're just like not together right now, but like, that doesn't mean we have to get divorced. You know, we love each other. But then she said something in one of her interviews,

like pretty much the interviewer asked, like, why aren't you and Mauricio together? Like, what's the one thing you can't agree on? And she said, the trust, there are just things that I can't recover from. Like the trust is broken. And at the reunion, the vibe that I got was that like, Mauricio very, like obviously cheated on her.

She won't say it out loud solely out of respect for her kids that was the vibe that I got like there was something we're not going to talk about it because it's still the father of her children that was the vibe that I got okay good to know then I just couldn't believe we were still beating the Morgan Wade thing at the reunion I'm like wow I we've known about wade now for so long we still have absolutely no clarity and we with the andy really asked one at the end very direct question which is like are you guys in a relationship like what is going on and she waited so long i think they even went to a commercial break and then she's like no yeah this season like they're really just friends okay it's confusing but maybe kyle's confused too and then that whole Sutton thing

was like kind of bizarre that she like fainted and then like she left or whatever and then the reunion without Sutton or Garcelle was like kind of boring I haven't gotten to that I'm still on part one which is like about Kyle it was a little bit about Dorit and Garcelle. And I just want to say after watching the whole season, like Erica just impressed me so, so much. She's really like building back her whole life, starting from not even zero because she had to like come back from something. And she's doing it with so much grace.

And I really never, if you had told me like so many like years ago or whatever, three, four years ago, when it all all started that who she would become through all of this like it's really impressive like her mental fortitude to get through it and to work hard and to like start small it's not easy she was like we just have to take steps forward even if they're baby steps which is really what she's doing and it not everyone could do it she's an incredibly strong person is she still living in that house that she was in so at least this season she was love that for she like I feel like she should like start dating and she could date someone like she should date like a tech very like uh Christine Quinn

energy you know yeah but I think that when you go from being in a relationship like she was where you have no really say and you're at someone else's whim and they're very controlling and it's their money and this and that like even though it's so hard to lose it all and to not have all those fabulous things like when you start to have your own independence and freedom you wouldn't trade it actually would not trade it to go back to that totally because that's all you want is just your freedom freedom but i think that erica is someone who could have both i think so too she's like a strong woman yeah and she's such a catch and there's no reason why she can't find a great guy yeah so anyways i was just really impressed by her i love that yeah it was honestly it was making

me a little emo i know what you mean and i felt like she kept waiting for the women to apologize like you know because they were really hard on her and it was making me a little emo. I know what you mean. And I felt like she kept waiting for the women to apologize, like, you know, because they were really hard on her. And it was making me feel like I needed to apologize. No, by the way, I know what you mean, because then you also see other women like Kyle this season go through something not even as bad, like nobody did anything wrong, but something deeply personal and pretty monumental for Kyle

and get away with like not sharing any part of it, not having to answer to any part of it, not having to answer to any part of it. Whereas Erica could not walk like one foot without somebody questioning her motives and her husband and all these things. And I get that it was like a crazy time, but now with hindsight and when you compare to like what other women have gone through, it's like she really got, even like Jen Shah. Jen Shah was literally the person who committed the crime with Erica was her husband. Jen Shah, and that's why I think the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City as a franchise is a failure and the women are, you know, bad

housewives. It's because they let that entire season go by. Literally could have been historic, could have been history making. They let that entire season go by and let themselves get sidetracked with dumb, petty, dumb ass ass stupid ass fucking drama when literally their co-star got arrested on camera like the feds came to your sprinter it was literally prestigious tv in the making and they so dropped the fucking ball so to see jen shaw not even get her feet held to the fire in the same way that erica did like erica must be mad yeah but the thing is she's mad, but she's also very graceful about it where she's like, I want just an apology. And I feel like if she got an apology,

that would be enough for her. It's not like she would even want more than that. But she also knows like maybe I won't get an apology and I have to be okay with that too. Yeah. But I just feel like those women who were her friends, like it's on your friends to like believe you and champion you even when it gets hard.

Like that's when it counts to be a friend. Kyle and dorit whereas i guess sutton and garcelle questioning and reading the la times like they were new they had no history with erica and they wanted to make a splash and everyone was thinking like i actually don't even blame them for that you're right it's the women hard to then say like we're friends if they don't then be like yeah we went hard on that it seems as though you're in the clear and that you had no idea anything. And like and so for that, we're sorry. Like, I don't know why that should be hard for people. But it really like Sutton gave her a full apology.

Very sorry. Crystal to Dorit and Kyle, even though they never really questioned her. But there was like one or two statements that they made that they apologized for. Yeah. Anyways, it's just interesting. Time heals. One thousand percent. it's just interesting. Time heals. One thousand percent. It's hard to be patient sometimes.

And then she was saying all I was asking for was patience and for people to let it play out in the legal process and not jump to conclusions. And they couldn't do that. Yeah. So I'll finish that up tonight, probably. And excited to be caught up on one franchise. Love that for you. Yeah.

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Where in the world is Kate Middleton? A couple things. First, there's a report going around that the BBC is on alert for a royal announcement. They've been on alert since Friday. Yeah, they were told to like be on standby and everybody keeps resurfacing that one thing they said on Friday. And it's like, OK, well, it's been four days. Yeah. They were told to like be on standby and everybody keeps resurfacing that one thing they said on Friday. And it's like, okay, well it's been four days. Yeah. And also what would the announcement be? It could be something as big as divorce. Right. As small as Kate is doing well. And we look forward to seeing her after Easter. But what, but they don't explain, like, I don't know what they would possibly

be saying unless something really has happened. Like an explanation. So, by the way, because I was thinking about this on my way to work this morning because I was thinking about how, you know, right before all of this happened, we were told about Charles's cancer diagnosis. It was all in the spirit of transparency and yada, yada. Do you think that was like a move? I think it's both.

Like, I think it's true. also a little bit of a move also a little bit of here let's give you something so you don't feel like we're all being private with our health concerns I think they were able to make it a little bit of a moment with everyone go get your prostate checked we're gonna be doing public health and this is good for everyone but I think it ended up backfiring because he was so transparent and then Kate wasn't if they both just had health issues nobody would be like we need to know what's going on in their vaginas like it's personal so like if they wanted to keep it separate I think private I think that would have been okay yes and no one Charles is the monarch so I guess

we are more entitled British public is more entitled to know and to like not to make it gendered but a woman's entitled to certain privacies at entitled to know and to like not to make it gendered but a woman's entitled to certain privacies that a man it's not like not needed like i wouldn't care if like you're so binary like it's crazy yeah do you think i wasn't no no i i knew you were i knew you were then you got like not you i'm saying the royal you y'all did y'all think i wasn't no they by the way that's a fair statement. Actually, Charles had diarrhea. Like, I think it's fine for them to tell us if Kate has diarrhea. Keep that to yourself.

Like this is she's a woman. Oh, wow. I thought you were saying more so because a lot of the speculation, a lot of pretty popular theories that Kate's suffering from a hysterectomy, which is an abdominal surgery. So, you know, that's the truth. And it requires a pretty decent amount of time for recovery. And it's like a major surgery. And that's like such a personal feminine thing.

Oh, yes. Okay. So two things. One, it's personal because it's also emotional. And it's a hysterectomy is something that's not just like, oh, a small appendicitis. Yeah. It's a very emotional thing for a woman, I'm sure.

No, I also meant there's another theory that she had some sort of bowel surgery. Oh, that's what Dumas is saying, that the running thing with Dumas is that she now has a colostomy bag. Yeah, she had bowel surgery. She has a colostomy bag, like it's giving duty. And I just think for a woman,

like we don't need to know such things got it got it she should be entitled to her privacy on that front on the duty front the thing is she should be entitled to her privacy no matter what the medical issue was if she doesn't want to share it she doesn't have to perhaps it's just that Charles really wanted to share because there is a sort of social movement behind his diagnosis yeah yeah it's always same with that's it reminds me like Olivia Munn like when you hear something like that, it really is a reminder to go get checked

because it can happen to anyone, a royal, a celebrity, you. Right. So I think for that reason, I'm okay with Charles having shared and Kate not sharing.

Like I don't think that means that there's something more with Kate. Like I think. By the way, I'm okay with it too, but the fact that he shared and she didn't,

I think put a spotlight on her. I think they were trying to use it as like a deflection, but it ended up putting more of a spotlight that was the reason why I brought up Charles's diagnosis got it it was meant to be like look we're being honest and let's talk about this and Kate's thing will but if anything him being so honest and then her just sort of like disappearing I think it was more stark but what if they were both very private? You don't think that would turn into... The thing is, I think like Kate at this point in her life slash career,

like has the privilege of privacy and perhaps Charles doesn't. Yeah. Agreed. So there was also a report, I think yesterday from The Sun. That they went to the farm shop William and Kate can you read the headline because it's so dumb it said happy and healthy princess Kate spotted out and about for a first time since surgery as she visits the farm shop with wills by the way Claudia I saw Kate and William at the farm yesterday lol no wait I want my celeb spotting the what's it called the front page of the sun

hold on i need outdoors there are two bullets you had you have the i have the article no no hold on i need to find you want the front page it's oh here seen out with william at a for a for a farm first public trip trip. Ends web rumors. Sure. Like, no, it didn't, first of all. And also, there's no photos from said farm. Wait, there's no photos. It's just like, oh, look, they were at a farm.

Rumors are over. Old farm photos. I should have texted her some of my farm pics from yesterday. She could have posted them and said, beautiful day at the farm with Wills. Live, laugh, love. Let me just say, say like they weren't at the farm you know i saw them at the farm i can confirm he also went to a like public what what is it called royal uh he had like a job what are they yeah engagement engagement um at like some soccer fields or whatever And he was like out of the car. There was a crowd of people.

And everyone was like, well, well, hello. And he's like, hey guys, hey guys. He's like answering. Then he starts walking. Someone is like, how's Catherine? And he just keeps walking. I have a question for you. Say that all of this has been overblown.

And she's recovering from bowel surgery. And wanted to like have her privacy. And she's coming back after Easter. And she's going to look and feel like the same Kate and all of this was the internet gone mad is this good for the royal family or not good no even if it turned like we all look crazy in two weeks but how would we look crazy because if she just comes back and with no explanation like that doesn't dispel half the rumors. Half the rumors are like, yeah, she died.

That's what some people said. Okay, so that one is next. If she had a facelift, we'll know. If she had a BBL, we'll know. But her like disappearing for a set amount of time and then coming back, like that still could make people spiral too. It doesn't really prove anything.

Do you know what I mean? I feel like it proves that all of the announcements, it would prove that all of the announcements that they made, she had abdominal surgery. She needs weeks to the cover. She'll be back after Easter. It's like, no, but one of the rumors is that William cheated again and got Rose Hanbury pregnant or whatever.

Kate coming back doesn't disprove that, you know? OK, but why does she have to go into hiding? Because maybe she's not pregnant. What I had said on our live podcast episode that I actually think could be 1000% true is that there have been rumors about William and Rose Hanbury for many years and I think that like maybe he cheated a couple of years ago and they've worked through it but in December right before Christmas he she found out again that he cheated with Rose Hanbury. Maybe she's pregnant or not. But I think there was like another stint of infidelity.

And she's mad. And she's like, listen, I'm not going to work for your annoying ass family. She's punishing the royal family. While you just cheat on me. See, you know what? I'm taking some time for myself. You figure out how to deal with it. And that was William with the dumb Photoshop.

Like, you figure out how to deal with the Photoshop. You figure out how to deal with my absence. I'm taking some time for myself and I'm certainly not doing public appearances for your dumb ass family when you just cheated on me, bitch. But she took the blame for the Photoshop. You think they hacked into her account?

She didn't do anything. You think they hacked into her account? She doesn't even run her Instagram. Like, every statement, like, it's put together by people. You don't think that was written by C? No, I actually don't. I think the C is for Claudia. I mean, it was me.

It was Claudia. But you know, I would have signed it T. Okay, so. Turdy. What is your, in your heart? What's your number one theory? Well, you know, I did just see another. They're all so compelling when people,

especially when people make TikToks with photographic evidence. There was a theory going around you know in the years past Kate has been seen many times with um band-aids on her hands like on her fingertips and her knuckles and it's just like kind of this weird thing there's like a bunch of times she did a public appearance wearing band-aids and some people had thought that you know it's like this thing when you have bulimia that you accidentally scrape up your knuckles by like your teeth scrape and you bite and it's like a common thing if you're like a sort of consistent bulimic um and of course bulimia comes with its own host of health issues mental and physical um so the last video I saw was like you you know, she's probably dealing with that.

I don't know. I really don't know. She's in recovery for her bulimia. Or she's had some sort of health complications from bulimia, which, you know, based on the photos of her Band-Aids has been a years-long battle. But who knows?

She's also just very thin, so I think that helps the theory. Could they be gardening injuries? Jackie, they could literally be anything. She's a mom. Like, kids do shit, you know? Yeah, yeah. Like, it could be anything.

Was Jimmy Cortez a bulimic? Right, right. Interesting. Okay. But then she might have had health issues that needed time to recover, and she'll be back after Easter. See, the thing is,

I would think that the internet was getting really ahead of itself, except for the Mother's Day thing. That really, I think, gave a lot of gravitas to any sort of floating theory that's floating around. Like, that was handled extremely poorly. Like, why they couldn't have just used an old photo of her and the kids? Like, you don't have to take a new photo every Mother's Day. Like, just say it. If they used an old photo, people would be like,

Charlotte's hair was that long six months ago Kate is dead yes yes if they used an old photo but the fact that they created an like a photo out of thin air that's a global scam that's a bigger concern you think they created a photo out of thin air not just use the best put together the best she could have done like a montage no I'm saying not using an old photo I'm saying you know like a throwback Thursday if you will she could have done like a montage. No, I'm saying not using an old photo. I'm saying, you know, like a throwback Thursday, if you will. She could have done like a montage of all of her portraits with every newborn. Like, I love being a mother. Like literally you could have done anything. Yeah. That's what I mean. Not like pretending that an older photo is current. Just like a throwback. Yeah. Throwback. TBT. Right. Which is so easy with kids because you always want to post photos of them and they're

like their newborn. Like, oh, look how much my baby has grown. Or it could have been a picture of just the three kids. Like, I'm just saying the way that they went and made like an AI generated photo gave people, which I think at first it was like people were having fun. Like it was kind of jokey with the, you know, the conspiracy theories. That photo of Mother's Day and then her statement so gave the thing legs. And you know what? I don't blame people for getting carried away because it was it was weird okay and you think that Rose Hanbury is pregnant so she can't take a picture with her kids I don't think Rose Hanbury is pregnant and I actually think people really need to lay off Rose Hanbury like there's really no proof and do you by the way do you know the Rose Hanbury rumors started and ended on Dumois like and it's just become fact and like there's literally no proof yet it's just become like

a fact but it's like so many things sometimes are rumors that are facts like even um some of Diana's misters yes like those are rumors but they're also true no and that was the same thing with like Camilla Parker Bowles everybody knew but there was photos of them together it was terrible but you know somebody hacked into their phones and like there was there was a record of this affair they had dated previously they had met previously like there's literally no there's not that for William there's not that for Rose Hanbury like it's literally the Dumois thing and there's this one picture of Rose Hanbury like at a royal affair. The same, like she's at just the same event.

And Kate's like giving her side eye. But it's literally, do you know how many pictures get taken of somebody like Kate per second? Like a thousand. She's just looking. And I actually think in that one photo she's not even looking at Rose Hanbury. I think she's looking at the guy next to Rose Hanbury. Like there's so little there for real. Oh, okay.

It's not fact. Okay, there's so little there, for real. Oh, okay. It's not fact. Okay, great. Good to know. So we'll see you at Easter. We'll see you at Easter. Countdown to Easter. She has risen. I've never been so excited for Easter.

Me too. Are you ready for our next story? Some other exciting, really big news in the podcasting world, which is that Kardashian X's Caitlyn Jenner and Lamar Odom are launching a podcast together with homage to keeping up with the Kardashians so Caitlyn Jenner and Lamar Odom are teaming up to launch a new podcast they will talk all things athletics in their forthcoming project keeping up with. It's such a bad name. It's such a bad name. First of all, them harking back to Keeping Up With The Kardashians

when both of them are on the outs is thirsty, first of all. The actual name, Keeping Up With The Sports, it's dumb. It's really bad. It's really bad. It appears three episodes have been recorded so far and the first episode will debut in a couple of weeks. Boxing legend Sugar Ray Leonard will be their premier guest, according to the press release.

Also in the image for the podcast, there's three hosts. So it's Caitlyn Lamar and someone named Zach Hirsch. The thing is, is that the people who are like fans and followers of Caitlyn and Lamar are fans and followers of the Kardashians. And those people don't give a flying fuck about sports like Sugar Ray Leonard. You know what I mean? So I could see how somebody would conceive this idea.

But if you just think it through, it's so clearly a bad one. I kind of disagree. Wow. I kind of think it could heal the world. Like I think the people, well, let's see if I'll even be inclined to listen to it but I think real sports fans might listen to some of this obviously I don't real Kardashian fans no see the thing is I that inherently I disagree with real sports fans like don't consider Caitlyn or Lamar to be like important figures in sports anymore.

I think they think that their reputations have been destroyed. Like they think of them as like Kardashian curse, yada, yada. And true Kardashian fans don't give a fuck about sports. So even if it is hosted by two ancillary characters in the Kardashian universe, the things they're talking about like do not apply to these fans. I don't know. I don't think it's a good idea. I don't think it's the worst idea I've ever heard. I think it's worth pursuing a good idea. I don't think it's the worst idea I've ever heard.

I think it's worth pursuing. That's so funny. I think it's the worst idea I've ever heard. I think it's the funniest idea. Yes. Some sort of AI-generated. No, not even. AI couldn't be this creative.

It's the craziest idea I've ever heard. This creative. It's literally the dumbest idea. And by the way, no true, Jackie Jackie no true sports fan would be caught dead listening to a podcast called keeping up with sports yeah but you know what I think the cream as we always say the cream rises and there's a chance that they have like interesting compelling conversations with like sports legends Caitlin that's actually true Caitlin's kind of like a lightning rod she says stuff know, she doesn't say

nothing. No. And people really don't give Caitlin, I want to say enough credit for her sports career. Like I forget what documentary, I think it might've been like a documentary on her transition. And I wasn't really alive for her time at the Olympics, but like, apparently it was like, it took over the world. world she she was like America's pride and joy Wheaties like really kind of like Michael Jordan level fame and and athleticism and she actually because she's like lived so much the Kardashians the transition and then she's you're right she's just this sort of like lightning rod especially politically like people don't give her credit for her athletic career that I do agree. You can't put Caitlyn in a box.

And I think that's actually the perfect sort of podcaster. Then there's Lamar. Yeah, and I haven't actually heard Lamar speak in a really long time. I feel like I'm always reading headlines about him, but I don't see like his Instagram stories. I don't see sit down interviews. I don't really know what he's like. He has his recovery center.

Yes. He's like really big into recovery and rehabilitation coupled with sports coupled with you know his history I mean he came back from the dead like this man might have something to say I also I'm glad you brought that up because yesterday I was thinking about um Rob Kardashian because it was his birthday and Khloe obviously put up like this big emo thing and they obviously have like such a special relationship. And, you know, part of her caption was like, you know, I hope one day you see yourself the way we all see you. Like it's actually weird.

This, I feel like we never like talk enough about like the mystery of Rob Kardashian. You know, they're so transparent, the girls. Like they've really never been through anything that they haven't shared. Almost to a point of like, you know, ad nauseam. People are like, enough. And with Rob, it's like, there is no definitive answer. What the hell happened to Rob Kardashian? Like there's theories and you know, it all went downhill after he was living in the house with Khloe and Lamar. And I think Khloe feels like immense guilt about that. And that's why she's really the sister who's like always there to pick him up. But what is, what's the theory or what happened? My POV on it, just based on like the crumbs they've left over the years,

is that he was living with Chloe and Lamar, which led to drug use for him, which led to weight gain, severe weight gain, addiction, severe depression. Yeah, that's what I thought too. But like, that's not confirmed, is it? I don't think so, no. Interesting. He's such an enigma yeah he is also I just want to say the third man um in the podcast Zach Hirsch looks like Rob Kardashian it looks like a picture of Rob Caitlyn and Lamar and I feel like that's intentional I feel like it was intentional for marketing no for sure so I'm open to it the name they already need a rebrand keeping up with sports like I'm crying I'm sad it's it's awful and there when I climb into bed I start

feeling sad as you should it's horrible and if they did want to like hark back something Kardashian related they could have done a better job like ever heard of ever heard of the word subtlety like no it's so overt it's so lame it's it's so lame that it's funny I could see them like having clips that go viral like if they do end up you know having meaningful conversations for sure and I just gotta say some advice to them like you gotta pull it put it all out there and by the way not about the girls no I don't want to hear either of them talk about the girls I don't give a rip like yeah they're interesting people in their own right and I do want to say one thing that I find interesting about this because if it was just like two ex-Kardashian like you know characters who had no connection to the family anymore like they could go rogue and say whatever they want.

Caitlyn is still the girl's dad. She's not going to say anything. Right. And she might say stuff because she's like always saying stuff about the girls that is like a little like eek. But never crossing a line to a point where it's like, she's been a part of Kardashian documentaries. She's always like an expert witness, true Hollywood story vibes.

She's always talking, but I don't think it's very negative at all negative what she said that's what I'm saying it won't be it won't be because like he's still connected same for Lamar Lamar always says the nicest things about the Kardashians yeah yeah yeah so I think that for that reason that's good too it's not like they're trying to get on there and slam them like how tired would that be did you see like people the internet freaking out over Scott Disick that he slimmed he was paparazzi I guess for the first time in a while and not only did he lose a lot of weight he looked like extremely gaunt like his cheekbones his under eyes were really sunken in it was more more than just like I was that big thin like

it appeared as though something was wrong with him health-wise sad yeah it was like a really scary looking picture because he had also recently gained weight because he had his accident and he couldn't really move and i know and so people are like well when you have an accident you get prescribed pills and that's like how a lot of people end up with a pill addiction because like it's like it's like it's like a minor thing that's literally dope sick like you come in for back pain and next thing you know your whole life is ruined damn just speculative speculatory all of this but the photo is very telling and it's very sad yeah it is but i saw he was with a woman yes not a girl photographed oh it was a woman it was not a girl i think she was 28 it's better no and she looked like a woman not like a she looked like she had a fully formed

I think she had like a job I think I don't even think oh I was so shocked at him dating a girl of inappropriate age with a job with a job nonetheless I spilled my coffee yeah so that I thought was a good sign she's trying not to judge a book by its cover in terms of his looks yeah yeah yeah um and I think Scott should join an episode of keeping up with sports I think that's the trifecta we kind of need in this world I love that I think it's cute let him have fun we'll say talk that talk talk that talk that's a good name for a podcast it is a good name for a podcast and if you gave me like a day I could come up with a really great name for Lamar and Caitlin yeah shooting the shit so cute let me ask you a question if they are an iconic

podcasting duo if they go on to be that like who do you think is the Jackie and who is the Claudia I'm sorry like I don't know because like Lamar is kind of like more soft-spoken I guess but you're more of the lightning rod yeah so I don't know I think they have a little bit of Jackson Claude in each of them which is how you know you know they're gonna be successful it's a good question yeah I'm so curious I don't think I'm curious enough to like listen to an episode with Sugar Ray Leonard I'm not gonna lie but if there's clips that emerge I will take the time to watch them yes I agree I agree okay ready for our next story a little more rumored news I don't love a rumor without a picture me neither oh what I thought you were gonna say like I don't have a

rumor as a story like something totally unsubstantiated like sure but it's not a rumor that's like important you know it's not like I'll just say what the rumor yeah please discuss um Disney CEO Bob Iger was yes spotted so this is the kind of rumor that I like because it's yes I agree Disney CEO Bob Iger was spotted fawning over Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey during a couple's date night in L.A. So Bob Iger was spotted fawning over the quote, in quotes, fawning over the pop star and her NFL beau, Travis Kelsey, when they dined on Saturday night at L.A. Hotspot,

the Bird Street Club, sources tell Page Six. A source said of the scene at the members club, quote, Bob jumped up from his seat the minute Taylor walked in well I guess they have that relationship now because of eras Disney plus but they they have a long-standing relationship because folklore was also on Disney plus right and she did Netflix and then she like pretty much moved over to Disney she's obviously in her Disney era right now so they've had meetings before for sure. So him jumping up when, you know, his friend and colleague walks into the room. Actually, do you feel like they had meetings?

I feel like no. I don't think Taylor's going to meet with lower level people. I don't think Taylor needed to take a meeting. I think they shopped it around and everybody just made their offers and she went with the biggest one. You don't think Bob called her up? No, like money talks. Who cares if the CEO calls you?

Are you giving me the money? You know? I feel like he wanted to call. No, I'm saying I feel like he used it as an excuse to call her and say tailored we've got a deal you know he's obviously thirsty and this story sort of supplements that and I love that for him and by the way I can't believe we spoke about our weekends without me sharing like I watched the era store the entire weekend having it on demand is such a luxury we are so blessed I'm enjoying it so much. It is so well done. And it's just fabulous to have. I'm still holding out because we're

supposed to go to the concert. And then this weekend I called you. I was like, I think I'm just going to watch it. Like I probably won't even go to the concert. You guys, Jackie has no idea what the show's about. She doesn't know the order. I never saw the TikToks. She's seen nothing. Isn't that crazy? She has a pure mind. Pure mind. And so I was like to Claudia, what are the odds that we actually go? Like I'll just watch it. she was like no like we're coming we have tickets we're going so I don't have tickets but we're going like people have plans made to come it's not just like this far-fetched idea that's not happening no it's literally in Florida like we're going that's where you live like we're going okay I thought just like everyone moved on is what I

thought I stayed there just collected around my pinned up hair that's literally me I stayed here not watching meanwhile everybody's like gone to the show five times watch a movie backwards and forwards but you know we're going you're gonna come back for me I'm coming back for you no man left behind okay thank you so the rumor is that Bob Iger was screaming his pants yeah to over tailored and Travis at a members only club in LA this weekend and the thing about it's like there's no proof of this but why would someone make this up like it's true no and like envisioning it for me it's like it's like a lot of fun yeah and I believe it I believe it too and when I read this story this is the first time I learned that Bob

Iger's wife is 13 years younger than him she's 60 and he's 73 I. I saw that too. But it's like, okay, sure, she's younger. But at the same time, she's extremely age appropriate. No, I know it's funny. But like if, you know, she was 20 and he was 33, we'd be like, oh, okay. Josie grossy. But that's also because a lot of growing up happens in those years. Formative years. And then it just got me thinking like Bob Iger is a lot older than I would have thought.

If you would have asked me before I read this article, how old is Bob Iger? 60s. I think I would have said max 65 like and I don't know it's just for someone who's obviously very wealthy like why is he still working? Like go home. He tried to retire and he couldn't. He came back out of retirement. It's not well could he not or Disney made him an offer he couldn't refuse because he left and like Disney went to the shit. Both. I think both. I think he missed working. Yeah. What do you think about retirement? I hope to do it, you know, any day now. As soon as possible.

I think, that's actually a good question. Like, what do you think about retirement? There are different types of retirement. Like, oh, you make a lot of money so you can retire. When I think of retirement, I think of it in the traditional sense where like you're 62. Yeah, in the traditional.

Not in the extreme circumstances. Yeah, like in the traditional, not in the extreme circumstances. Yeah. Like you hit retirement age, you get your job, you get your social security and your days are your own. So I think for the people around you, like, I think it's a huge relief, like for your kids and everything that you're going to be able to relax and, and enjoy retirement. You've worked hard your whole life.

I imagine for the person who's retiring, it definitely signals like, you know, the latter half of life, like you're at a certain point of life like you're at a certain point I think it could be a little I think it could be like a little depressing yeah and like to just wake up and for so many years so many people depend on you at somewhere to be like the intern yeah I think sometimes it's not what people think it's gonna be I agree unless you're a. Yeah. I think people love to golf. And this is just a great reminder. It's never too early to start saving for retirement. Like for real.

Open an IRA. Like you won't regret it. You're welcome. Turdy's like, yeah, kind of like giving financial advice. Even though like, then what? What would you do if you retire, when you retire? What shall you do? Well, I've started saving for retirement many many years ago it's

like kind of something I'm most proud of honestly I have two IRAs like I take it seriously and I don't know what I'm gonna do but I'm looking forward to like looking back on you know 18 year old Turdy who opened that account and feeling really proud and grateful to her and hopefully by the time I can open that account like it'll be bussing and then I could buy a condo I don't know a waterfront condo or something for sure and then what are you going to do in your condo well I'm hoping I'll have grandchildren and stuff and you know I'll still be married and like you know Ben will be alive like that would be great so I don't know I don't know you and Ben will go in the ocean a lot yeah no we'll definitely be living somewhere warm

because like Ben will have he'll be golfing Ben will have broken me down we'll definitely be living somewhere warm because like ben will have he'll be golfing ben will have broken me down we'll probably live in like a community with like you know a golf course you don't think you'll live on the beach you love the ocean i do love the ocean that is a fun fact about me i'm kind of like a water sign i don't know i also imagine i'll be think of all the growth i've had in the last year who knows how different maybe i'll be like gardening i'll join a commune or something who knows i think maybe you'll be think of all the growth I've had in the last year who knows how different maybe I'll be like gardening maybe I'll join a commune or something who knows I think maybe you'll be gardening perhaps I think I'm gonna start gardening soon it's the time do you think we'll still be podcasting the thing is it's like then we're not retired but I want to keep podcasting so and like

when the toast like when we're done when we're toast like the toast, like when we're done, when we're toast, like the intellectual property, like are we going to train the next generation of, or like does it end with us? By Colleen Hoover. Right. I don't know. I think these things will happen naturally. I don't think we'll have to plan. Okay.

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So download June's Journey for free today on iOS and Android. Thank you, Claudia. You're welcome. Our next story, a bit of nostalgia news. OK. Seventh Heaven's Barry Watson jokes about Beverly Mitchell and Jessica Biel's past crushes on him. At 90s Con, the Seventh Heaven.

Okay, who's Barry Watson? He was the oldest brother. Oh, oh, oh, wait. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So there was 90s Con this weekend. There was a Seventh Heaven panel. And the Seventh Heaven cast cast minus Jessica Biel of course because she wouldn't be caught dead um oh by the way we need to talk about Justin Timberlake

after this please remind me okay well they were sort of spilling the tea about dynamics on set how the girlies had crushes on Barry of course the the younger brother showed up to the panel and he looks very different now because he shaved his head. And so people were quaking about that. Okay. 90s con being a thing. Like I can't, first of all.

Second of all, did they talk about the pastor father who's now in prison? So I didn't see anything about it, but I didn't watch the whole video. So I can't say. It's not their problem. It's not their problem. Like for real. Well, someone they worked with was an animal and now they have to answer for it. No.

No, it's so crazy. But also they talked about the potential for a 7th Heaven rewatch podcast. They said stay tuned on social media. Okay, please. Like no, please. Okay, what sounds like a better idea? Caitlyn on a Mars podcast or a 7th Heaven? Like say you were an advertiser or a network buying a show which one

would you buy which one would you put your money behind so bad um I don't know rewatch podcasts like seem to be doing well yeah they do but seventh heaven is not the type of show with a cult following it doesn't get rewatched it doesn't get rewatched and I think if you rewatch it like you would feel uncomfortable I'm even looking at an old picture and I feel uncomfortable because the father is holding the young daughter on his lap. And if they're not going to talk about the dad, then there's no reason to make a podcast.

Like for real, you got to be open and transparent about these things. I feel like they would talk about it, but it's not going to be the only thing that they talk about. But I would just like watch every episode and be like,

just counting every time the pastor touched a child. But can we go back to the original part of this story, which was Barry Watson saying, like, all the younger girls had a crush on him? Yeah. He's so, he was so cute when he was that brother. Like, you know who he reminds me of?

Like, he was, like, such a classic. Like, he was really cute. And he reminded me a lot of the older brother, Charlie Baker from Cheaper by the Dozen. For sure. Except that guy was actually cute. Like, and so he's the actor from Smallville. The actor, his name is Jacob Smith. I was just Googling it because I wanted to remember his name. Like, he was so dreamy. for sure except that guy was actually cute like and so he's the actor from Smallville the actor his name is Jacob Smith I was just googling it because I wanted to remember his name like he was

so dreamy yeah because he was also like normal like he wanted to like you know go to parties and stuff and go to college and play football whereas like the brother from Barry Watson from uh Seventh Heaven was like let's do bible study like girl no yeah like drink energy drinks and grow our hair out literally no this one picture that I'm looking at in the people magazine article I don't know if you have the article up but I don't it's um a cast photo from 1996 like I could look at this picture all day it's a renaissance painting to me first of all Jessica Biel like gorgeous gorgeous girl yeah as she's a gorgeous woman now but like she just like is that cool

teenage girl okay so wait thank you for reminding me so Justin Timberlake had a concert like last week maybe over the weekend um at the Wilbur to like talk like celebrate his new music or whatever you know he's like rebuilding his career and he brought out NSYNC and they released a song and the it's so funny how like for so many years that would have been headline news people were just waiting for NSYNC to do something together and you know how lucky would we be if they released a song they're doing merch like they are doing the most right now and the way nobody besides like those core core fans care is a new song or is the one from the movie that they did do they now have two new songs or the one from a few weeks ago that maybe trolls or something?

Okay, hold on. Maybe this is old news. They performed their new song which came out a couple weeks ago. Hmm. And. Maybe you're right. Maybe you're right. And you know that on Friday we did talk about the fact that they performed together wait we did yeah because Travis was at the concert Travis Kelsey

oh my god we did talk about it that's how like a long weekend that's also like how unimportant it was like you forgot that we talked about it well over the weekend I got served so much TikTok content and I guess I was like engaging with it. So it like kept coming up even more. And like I could sit down for five hours with a body language expert like to talk about all of this. And, you know, most of the vocals during the NSYNC performance were done by JC Shazay. And I then, of course, ended up on like JC TikTok.

And the JC stans have like really felt for many years like he was so robbed during the height of the band's career because like it really like JC was that bitch you know he really was super talented vocally as well and he definitely got pushed to the side by Justin and his curly hair um but don't you feel like okay so say JC's more talented than Justin but how does Justin go on to have this like huge career and be the one and it's not like JC's less handsome than Justin I would actually say he's more so it's like kind of like an L for JC like where's your business savvy like how come you weren't doing things for yourself no it's actually very true like what you're just gonna be a victim like you were in the same rooms as Justin Timberlake really had the same opportunities knew the same people like and he made it bigger and you didn't like you you know what kind of

reminds me of but I don't know if Jay-Z even tried. Because I feel like the modern day equivalent of NSYNC and Justin Timberlake is Fifth Harmony and Camila Cabello. Yeah. And I feel like the, but it doesn't really work because I feel like Jay-Z is like. No one's as vocally talented as Camila in the group. Normani is. And Normani is like, I think the other three, like they've had attempts at solo careers

and they flopped because like they don't have what it takes. They're vocally, like in any sense, like I'm sorry. But Normani's the only other one who does. And Normani like had, you know, she's like with Beyonce. Like she works, she has the business savvy, but she literally like hasn't released music. And there was all this hype for her. But so the equivalent is not the same

because I don't think JC ever tried. You're like where was that sort of business savvy right and so everyone wants to be mad that he didn't get his flowers well he didn't plant his seeds he didn't bloom he didn't even plant the seeds as far as I know and trust me I haven't really looked into it so I could be wrong maybe he did plant seeds and didn't pan out because maybe Justin Timberlake like he's an epo baby or something. I don't know. I need to like I would love to hear really honestly from some of the other members of NSYNC. Like like when I see the content.

Now would be the time though because he's finally back in the fold. Exactly. And so like I know Lance Bass is having like the time of his life. But I'd like to talk to somebody like I'd like to talk to Joey Fatone. You know I feel like he's an honest guy. Like I feel like Joey and that other one whose name I don't know. Is it Chris? Chris. I feel like he fucking an honest guy. I feel like Joey and that other one whose name I don't know. Is it Chris? Chris.

I feel like he fucking hates Justin Timberlake. I would. Yeah. And for so many years Justin thought he was so much better than these guys. And I understand

none of them are in a position to say no. But I'm sure they wanted to. Like fuck you. You need us now. I don't know. Like it's very telling when Justin was at the peak of his career

he didn't reach out okay devil's advocate maybe the fact that justin reached such big heights are the reason why now people even care to see and sync back together like maybe if they all just became nobodies then there wouldn't even be this demand excitement they wouldn't get the trolls contract perhaps perhaps but I think pride definitely plays a part in all of this especially with men yeah yeah and I just oh you know I read an article actually I literally read the headline but I thought it was very emblematic of a lot what we've been talking about recently um and it was like J-Lo and Justin Timberlake how you know pop stars are failing to retire it was like a variety article I thought it was such a good point because they really are

very similar their situations and you know JLo's getting roasted right now because they're doing the most to promote this documentary of hers not the movie she did a movie where she spent 20 million of her own dollars like and it was like she worked in a factory it was like a live visual album did you look did you hear about that I thought it's all the same no then she has a documentary that's like her and Ben Affleck like she has a better chance of getting people to watch that and there's clips of it all over social media and there's this clip where she's like in the gym working out and her hair looks crazy because she's been like working out and she just kind of like shakes her head and she's like oh I like

wearing my hair like this reminds me like when I was in the Bronx running running up and down the block crazy girl young heart I saw that and people are like all right enough with the block first of all which block you know and then like people are like she talks so vaguely about the Bronx like she's never been there it's giving Jay Shetty as a monk stop yeah like oh my god it's this clip is so funny like and so I thought the article like really did a good point of pointing out how the two of them how do you retire with sort of with like humility and integrity while also like not succumbing to this ageist industry and being like I can't work or do new music because I'm too old. I don't like that either.

I know, but, and this is going to be like kind of like a really rude thing for me to say, like pop music specifically, it's a young person's genre. Like it just is. It's music for the young people. So switch genres? Something. I don't know. And I'm trying to think of somebody who I feel like has done it in a good way.

And I do feel like I've been critical of her but there are merits to how she's done it Madonna she's certainly not retired certainly not but she but she plays the hits like she's not out here you know doing new albums actually to me she's someone who absolutely needs to retire yeah yeah yeah okay wait let me think let me think, let me think. Who is somebody? Cher. Cher. Cher. I think a good way to sort of retire is a Vegas residency. And then hit it with a Christmas song. Or a Greatest Hits tour.

Yes, Cher, you're right. That's a very good example. And you know, she still tours and people are like, damn, she's still got it. But that's, and that's enough. Yeah, and I just want to say something. So everyone knows my husband is a Justin Timberlake fan still like he really doesn't get in the weeds on the stuff that we do and yeah he was like oh Justin Timberlake came out with a new album I

watched him like see it on Spotify and he went and played a song I don't think was the first song I don't know if he had heard like maybe this is a good song or something and he played it and Claudia was so good and it didn't sound like Justin it's a new sound like he's giving like more of a John Mayer not doesn't sound like John Mayer but like more in that direction of like yep man guitar Noah Khan like yeah it really was not offensive see that's interesting but I feel like success as a pop star is so much more than just talent. Like the music being good as a part of it, but it's like the marketing. It's how you package yourself.

And you're the center of the brand. And when you're disliked, like that makes it tough. Even if the music is really good. You know, that's half the battle for sure. Okay. But you know who you just described? Who? Ari. Explain. She's dislik battle for sure. Okay, but you know who you just described? Who? Ari.

Explain. She's disliked right now. Yes, however, I do think she has like a core fandom that's so big. That's the thing. Like she's just much more famous, I think, than Justin Timberlake in terms of like people who consume her music.

So I think he has his core fans too. So he had a concert for his core fans at the Wilbur. That's a 1600 person theater. If Ari did that, she could do it at Madison Square Garden. I just think the scale is different. But yeah, she is disliked as well. Yeah. To get her music, it's bringing us back.

It's penetrated. You're right. It has penetrated the haters because it is that good. Yeah. So it can be done. But she's so big. Even when people dislike her, her music becomes a part of the zeitgeist like he's kind of fringe now like his it's not like he released a song and it's automatically gonna be on the radio and be on tiktok like

right don't you feel like he's fringe i don't listen to the radio so i can't say and i'm not on tiktok so i don't know i I always find it interesting to, when people release new music, if I don't seek it out, if it still makes its way today. And I find that, like, I waited actually a few days before listening to Ari's album. And I had known a few songs already due to TikTok, due to social media, due to just the culture. That's her influence. It's impressive.

Even when, you know, she was going through sort of like a rough time, which I think she is right now. But her music is bringing her back to the fold. With Justin, I have not heard, because I haven't sought it out I still have not heard one song you didn't hear the one single oh I'm sorry I did no the footage I saw of him at his concert was like him bringing them out and them singing bye bye bye I know that song already yes know that song too so I always find that's like one of my favorite things to do like mute people on social media and see if they still come across my desk because everybody on social media is like that song too so I always find that's like one of my favorite things to do like mute people on

social media and see if they still come across my desk because everybody on social media is like oh I'm here I'm there I'm everywhere and I'm like well are you or do I just follow you right and so if you're still like popping up all over my you know my what my desk well you really are a part of the culture but everybody's like job is to make it seem like they are you know yeah that's their literal job yeah yeah so um with Justin Timberlake it's a it's an impressive he's pulling out all the stops you know with making TikToks him and Lance Bass because Lance Bass is really beloved like he really is I think a lot of people are like excited for him to be able to like be a member of NSYNC while also fully being himself because he was totally in the closet like so I'd like it's funny how like the tables have turned.

Like Justin is so like latching on to his goodwill, Lance's goodwill. And they're doing the most, you know, of course, Jessica is getting in there too. They're, you know, they're doing all the right things. TikTok, NSYNC. But it's just coming off so disingenuous. At least for me. Maybe this is just my unique experience. Yeah, it might be because you're not

the target audience for this actually why i like wasn't in sync fan you know who is olivia olivia no you're the target audience for the jonas brothers reunion i'm like those different those years made a difference no you were like when that when that was happening yeah i was excited about it you're right joe joe is on your wall you're right you're right this is for olivia and i'm gonna go over to her house with a microphone i'm gonna interview her about what this means to her please i need you to but also i need you to catch her off guard i need her initial like maybe she wouldn't even know what we're talking about you know yeah okay so just show up at her house and start filming like seriously yeah like you

know when they catch those like pedophiles like Like that's what you need to do. And she's listening in secret to their new song. Yeah, like I need a full candid reaction. Okay, I'm on it. Great. Now to bring it back to the story. Was this our fifth or our fourth? That was our fourth. Okay.

You didn't answer my question. You are a podcast network. Which podcast would you buy? Podcast Network. Which podcast would you buy? Lamar. Same. But it's a tough choice.

Yeah. It's bottom of the barrel. They each have a potential. They do. But like most podcasts, they could go nowhere. Right. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? A little nostalgia news but not as fun oh what more news from quiet on set the bombshell documentary that's coming out and it's looking like it's going to be a referendum on dan schneider

because former nickelodeon writer amy berg slammed her ex-boss dan schneider as a psychological tormentor following the release of the bombshell documentary. So she served as his assistant before he left for UPN and she said she worked with him for less than a year but it was enough to know he was a quote fucking asshole. She said on X during my year with Dan I wasn't aware of any physically inappropriate behavior. What I can confirm however is that he was a fucking asshole a psychological tormentor. He introduced me to panic attacks and the stress of working for him caused me to develop a significant heart arrhythmia. By the way, that's very similar to what Jeanette McCurdy said in her book.

In Jeanette's book, she did not confirm. Like there's been for years speculation about Dan Schneider, you know, allegedly sexually assaulting kids on set um but there's also been rumors that he's just like a fucking dick and Jeanette's book really substantiated those latter claims that she's like he was such an asshole and really manipulative um getting her to do things she didn't want to do with the promise of her having her own show and then Ariana Grande ended up being like it was really very um like psychological too and I have heard that as well in addition to what we've all obviously heard yes so I think there will be more about him and I think this this documentary it's talking about

the set the culture at Nickelodeon in general during those years but like he was the creator that's actually what Jeanette McCurdy like refers to him allegedly in her book as the creator as the creator like he created this culture yes any sort of toxic workplace like would would be from him yeah like it was fully his show and he was really kind of the king at Nickelodeon during that time he was making them so much money the shows were so successful and he could really do whatever he wanted and he did yeah he did so he's disgusting I hope this documentary continues to bring light to what happened in those days dark times yeah so those were the past five you definitely needed to know them as you do day. And I had the time of my life fighting dragons with you. As we do every day.

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