The Toast - We ALL Can't Get Over It: Wednesday, April 19th, 2023

Episode Date: April 19, 2023

Viewers Pan Kelly Ripa, Mark Consuelos’ ‘Brutal’ First ‘Live’ Show Together (Page Six)(21:35) Fans Are Petitioning TO Remove Nick and Vanessa Lachey as ‘Love is Blind’ Hosts (Page Six) (25:50) Rachel McAdams Talks ‘Guilt’ Of taking a 2-Year Break From Acting (People) (41:34) Victoria Justice Addresses Longtime Rumor That She’s ‘Jealous’ of Ariana Grande (Page Six) (49:30) ‘RHOBH’ Alum Teddi Mellencamp Claims She Had A One-Night Stand with Matt Damon (Page Six) (54:51) Dear Toasters (1:03:44) The Toast with Jackie (@JackieOshry) and Claudia Oshry  (@girlwithnojob)  Merch The Toast Patreon Girl With No Job by Claudia OshrySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Good morning Millennials and welcome back to the Toast. Happy Wednesday also known as hump day. So don't forget to gyrate to get get a little hot and heavy. Damn the Strice Brethren should be here to celebrate. They should be here. Standing with your arm around me here. What song is that? You should be here. I don't know it's a weird song. No it's like like giving like a fake like Disney Channel energy. Literally. What song is that? You should be here. I don't know. It's a weird song. No, it's like giving like a fake like Disney Channel energy. Literally. What song is that? I have to look it up.

You should be here. I have to look it up. I'm sorry because this is an itch I need to scratch. It's like I don't even know if it's sung by a boy or a girl. Oh, it's Taylor Swift. No. Yeah, it is. No, no, no.

It's Cole Swindell. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. Not me thinking it was Taylor Swift. That's like she's so much better than that. She would never. She would never. You should be. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no. It's Cole Swindell. Oh, yeah. Not me thinking it was Taylor Swift. That's like she's so much better than that. She would never. She would never. You should be.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What a rant. I'm like, by the way, speaking of music. Speaking of music. Good music. Good music. Yesterday, Jackie and I dropped an amazing Patreon episode. It is over an hour long.

It's an hour and 10 minute podcast. Part podcast, part radio. So we do this segment. We did it a while ago and we brought it back yesterday because there's so much new music coming out that we've been really enjoying called toast radio where it's basically like you're listening to a radio show on the radio but it's actually good it's two of your favorite gals laughing chatting talking about music but also just talking about like life celebrities and then we're introducing some of our favorite

music from the last maybe two months so it's 10 songs five of them were chosen by me five of them were chosen by Jackie they're cross genre um and then we chat in between each song for a couple of minutes about the song, about, you know, making it about ourselves, whatever it may be. So it's about like 40 minutes of chatting, 30 minutes of music. And it's so good. The feedback has been so good. People love it. And it's really great if you commute or if you are taking a long walk and you want to listen to music, but you also want to listen to your favorite girls. Yeah. When I was getting ready this morning, I had to hit up Toast Radio and people said like while they were cleaning, it's just like such a fun idea concept. And we had so much fun doing it. And the songs are

Fire Flames. And I hope that we introduce you to something that you haven't heard yet. Yeah. So it was very exciting. That's what was going on yesterday with us. And yeah, it's Wednesday. I went out to dinner last night. It was delicious. What'd you eat? I had a salmon. Salmon. And a little margarita pizza.

Yum. I love a pizza. Like as an appetizer for the table, you know? Of course. You know, just like. Is that a hot take? No, no. But I just feel like it's not spoken about nearly enough as it should be yes because we don't talk about it because it's just so obvious

like I don't know I feel like it's not obvious like like we didn't order it and then I was like wait should what if we just got a pizza and everyone's like let's get a pizza oh so you're saying if you weren't there it's not something that like other people would have done I'm basically just trying to say like had I not been invited to the dinner it wouldn't have been the same it would have been a pizza list dinner it would have been a pizza list dinner so that's what I did Ben is home so I was able to sleep it was great that is great I watched Succession last night oh you did I did and um it was as you said what was the thing you were about to say that I was like no spoiler alert spoiler alert Shiv being pregnant.

Right. Does that change things much? A little bit. I think like if you know these guys were gonna push her out and now they know she's pregnant like they're gonna push her out even more. Oh. Right? Oh I guess. Like these business honchos all men. Yeah I guess that's like corporate ting. And now she like certainly doesn't want to tell anyone because she's already being pushed out. like corporate ting and now she like certainly doesn't want to tell anyone because she's already being pushed out got it okay and then of course tom tom is the father i assume like assume yeah i mean they were trying right they were talking about it yeah i don't know but we know that she is pregnant in real life so it's cool that they're doing it yes and i hope that she didn't take that tumble you know i hope that was a stunt double because she is pregnant in real life and that

was a oh my god i literally gasped i do love though like rent like shows when they randomly throw in somebody falling you know I was actually gonna text you when she fell I was did I relate to it is that where you were gonna ask just like falling is kind of your thing yeah obviously succession is inspired by my life um and I loved to see you know women out here falling not pregnant not pregnant women no Not pregnant women. No. It was only two steps. Yeah,

I think it was more so just like embarrassing. Humiliating. Embarrassado for someone who is embarrassed. Embarrassado. Yes. Finally,

a correct use of the term. An embarrassed woman feeling embarrassed. Yes. Wow. We've kind of come full circle as a brand. I feel like all of our episodes

of The Toast have brought us to just that moment. It was kind of like what we as a brand. I feel like all of our episodes of The Toast have brought us to just that moment. It was kind of like what we just experienced is a similar feeling to what I experienced when we finally had Sarah and Aaron Foster on to discuss justice for David Foster. It was like a full circle completion of some sort of arc. Like that's why we do what we do. So we can get to say embarrassado and embarrassado.

In the same sentence, using dual meanings. Using dual meanings using dual meanings that's beautiful so other than that i liked your explanation of the episode better than the episode so i should just keep going with turdy's explainers but it was cute and then i guess like at the end kendall is like activated right right with his grinch smile spreading across his face when he wants to you know publicly slander his father yeah posthumously posthumously without anyone knowing us in a soft way i am obsessed with the word posthumously okay um i think because for a long time i spelled it wrong because like in my head it's post humelessly yeah so and now that i know it correctly sometimes and you really can't use it that much because it has

to be posthumously but when you use it correctly like it just I feel like I've once like I should win some sort of prize you know yeah posthumously well don't go using it too much hope not sporadically not sporadically of course the references are just on fire today I don't want to jinx it I know that's like three really good ones posthumously embarrassado embarrassado and not sporadically of course. No. What is she saying? Not sporadically I hope. I'll be seeing you. I hope not sporadically.

I hope not sporadically. Yes. That's my boyfriend Paul Rudd. Gymnastics teacher to the stars. To the stars. That was you. I know that you have a whole new set of makeup because you have like a set here in New York. You're looking stunning. Really?

Yeah. And there was a lot of comments about like your makeup, like giving glam. Well, yeah, I got some new things, but like of my things that I use, there were a few things that I couldn't get. Like you gave me this setting powder that I'm loving because there is a run on Laura Mercier Transition Powder. It is out of stock everywhere. Like online.

I was doing like Sephora Instacart and I tried one more place. Oh, I sent Zach to Bloomingdale's. Oh, Bloomingdale's. Great. And it's nowhere. So Claudia generously

gave me like Givenchy. Prisme Libre. It's so good, right? It's so good. Like I'm going to buy it. And actually, it's probably better for you

than it is for me because it has pinky undertones. Yeah. Oh, I'm so glad you're liking it. Keep it. I will, but there's not that much left. You to buy it. And actually, it's probably better for you than it is for me. Because it has pinky undertones. Oh, I'm so glad you're liking it. Keep it. I will. But there's not that much left. You can keep it.

It's already half full. Jackie, it's half full. I'm going to get it. You should. I really liked it. Oh, good. Yeah, because I like it. Oh, my God.

I'm going viral on TikTok. What are you doing there? This is the thing. I spend hours and weeks. And then I put up some crap and I probably took 14 seconds to record it and put it up over a million views. What is it? Some dumb like.

I have to watch. Yeah. I have to support from my. Someone was like, somebody made a thing and it was like, guess a celebrity just based on their mouth. And like who better than me could do that?

I got every single one. And it wasn't even hard, but people are like, this is so impressive. I'm like, it is? You should listen to the toast. Do you know what I do for a living? Okay.

Jackie's watching my TikTok. Guess this. Let's see if you can guess it. Turn the volume all the way down. Okay. It hasn't started yet, right? No. Oh, okay.

Did you get it? No, I didn't know it started. Turn the volume down so you don't spoil it for yourself. Oh, wow. No. You don't know any of them no yeah layton meester i would have guessed that too but yeah but you did it yeah but you did it i would have emily oh no i wouldn't have gotten that either no it's so quick jimmy kimmel yeah yeah no fallon no that's okay but you know what i meant yeah meryl streep yeah the meryl streep one was easy they showed like her whole face yeah it was like not even hard okay this is the last one uh jenna ranston oh yeah sorry no there's one more that was really hard that i almost didn't get wait keep going let's see if i could get it

man sam hunt you know what i thought it was sam Hunt too at first how did you get that's crazy I know by the way I didn't think it was so crazy but I guess that's like a skill that I have guessing celebrities just based on their mouths and you should that's what all the comments were about go on tour guessing mouths you know they play that game on watch what happens live a lot like whose nose is it yeah and I guess I'm like really good at it because I get it there too I I thought it was like not a difficult concept. And that's why it went viral. People were like so impressed.

I'm like, wait, do I have a talent? It is impressive. I am going viral. Like dreams made of. Oh, and I'm going to a Broadway show tonight. Which show? I've been wanting to see it for so long. Have you heard about it?

It's called And Juliet. Maybe. It is the work of iconic pop producer Max Martin. So it's all Max Martin music. And he stems from current Celine Dion, a lot of really impressive music. But the concept of the show is what would have happened if Romeo and Juliet didn't die. So it's like the aftermath of Romeo and Juliet. You know who needs to see that?

Who? Zach from Love is Blind. Why? Romeo and Juliet didn't work die so it's like the aftermath of Romeo needs to see that who Zach from love is blind why Romeo and Juliet didn't work out for a reason did he say that over and over again when like Bliss's family didn't like him like the way I was so turned off by him like I actually physically had to tune out what he was saying also I sent you this on Instagram last night yeah um I just packed I just feel like I want to say that I was right you know when we were and people thought our love is blind recap was like so radical they're like now you guys like disagree with everything that the internet is saying it was like oh have you watched a show no not only that this show the internet is always

right so I want to agree with them all the time so what he had said was like I mean you came on the show to be famous and I was like that's weird because he then proceeded to plug his own Instagram it seems like Zach was the one who came on the show to be famous then somebody thank you I don't follow him but a bunch of people sent this to me yesterday, like Turdy, you were right. He got paparazzi in the airport, which maybe he called, maybe he didn't. TMZ video paparazzi. TMZ video paparazzi. So maybe he called, maybe he didn't. I feel like he did. But what he proceeded to do was then like download the video from TMZ, uploaded to it, his Instagram story in full and tag like TMZ tag,

the photographer tag, everyone, the link to the article. Like that's what a person who wants fame would do. I would do it. Cause I want fame and I don't shame other people who do. So just further proof now that I was right. Irina,

honestly, I haven't even seen a thing about Irina. She hasn't even been thirsty at all. Her Instagram hasn't even come across my desk. Like not since her apology. Right. Which was truly painful to watch. Yeah. So once again, Turney was right, which actually not once again. That never happens. No, but you've got to savor the moment. So you're two for two

today, plus the lips. Two for two today, plus the lips. So yeah, I'm going viral on TikTok. I was writing about Zach from Love's Mind. Everything's coming up, Turney. Everything's, you love to see it. You do. You are wearing one of our new merch sweatshirts. You look fabulous. Oh, thank you. Yes, I am wearing the pink crew neck that says the toes

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girlies in need i feel like it's been forever since we did your toaster well I did it last week with who was on Wednesday Margo yeah and um the snatchlers episode of the toast it's just so interesting you know you think you know your audience I got the snatchers episode of the toast outperformed all of these big fancy guests is that crazy she's just the snatchler I don't want to tell her that because like now she'll be like oh I'm too good oh oh you want me to come on the toast What are you going to do for Here's my fee What are you going to do for me Yeah

So I love that for her though Everyone needs a little counseling From the counselor So true Dear counselor Snitch Dear future counselor

Oh Meghan Trainor had a baby Did you see that No I didn't Yeah she posted it on TikTok I saw that she said that her husband Had been shaving her legs Relatable And I think it was implied

Like her hoo-ha. Yeah, of course. While her bump was too big for her to reach. And she's also writing a book, Dear Future Mama. Oh, that's cute. Yeah. What is it? In a memoir?

I don't know. But I saw the cover and her kid is on it. Her kid is really cute. He has red hair. Does it look like memoir vibes? Yeah, because like her and her kid are on it. You know? Memoirs of a Megan?

Memoirs of a trainer. Memoirs of a Shrysa is better. I never saw the movie Memoirs of a Geisha, but like the way the title of that film has continued to inspire so many different facets of my life. Like I should probably see it or maybe that would ruin it. It might. Or I think it might be a really serious movie

and then you might feel weird about making light of the title. I might. But if I don't feel light making light of, you know, a Sophie's choice. But we do feel weird about it. And we do. That's why we've changed it to a D'Andra's choice. Yeah. Yeah. But it's just not the same. No, it's not the same. What choice did D'Andra have after all?

I feel actually like D'Andra Simmons, former Real Housewives of Dallas, really did have a lot of tough decisions. You know, she had a lot going on like between her mom, you know, her stepson. He was kind of troubled. Like there are lots of choices being made. Yeah, sure. Should she defend Leanne? Should she not?

You never know what someone's going through and the choices that they make. I mean, life's about choices. Life's about choices. Don't we always say. We do. And you should make them. Don't let them pass you by. Some people don't want to make a choice.

No, it's hard. One of my biggest pet peeves is like people who don't like make choices are just like indecisive. But I also am one of those people because I understand that mentality completely. Because like it's so much responsibility to make a choice. Yeah. And it's always the wrong one. I disagree.

I disagree. I think there's no wrong choice. the wrong choice is not making one you know what i mean i think whichever one you choose like if you follow that path it's right for you that's beautiful and you'll bloom where you're planted i know i actually used that yesterday in like a conversation who are you talking to just like giving advice not me not you Not you. Who else do I talk to? You give advice to other people? That's so disgusting. Yeah.

Yeah. You know, when I'm called on. Who? I was talking to Zach. He's constantly like needing advice. I think he was probably like, who are you?

Like, I don't really talk like that. Especially not to him. In like, you know, woven pillow language. In crochet. I was like,

Zach, you just have to live, laugh, love. Right, right. Breathe in, breathe out. But I said it like, I'm like, bloom where you are planted. Yeah. And he was like Zach you just have to live laugh love right right breathe in but I said it like seriously I'm like bloom where you are planted yeah and he was like okay sure whatever

that means my crazy wife off your rocker again it's just good advice it's good sound advice I should bloom where I'm planted I feel like I recently used that phrase I think we were doing maybe even at the University of Miami yeah when we were on our panel because it was one of those phrases i feel like this happens with people everyone is like drawn to a different phrase sometimes you hear a phrase that like either really accurately reflects like where you're at in your life or you just find yourself using it a lot and it's like kind of becomes like your phrase it's just like a good use of language yeah there are a lot of i feel like oh this was i think when remi or margo was on the show she called me out because like i was using a lot of phrases i said, those in glass houses.

The call is coming from inside the house. Couldn't get arrested. I was, like, using a lot of, like, euphemismistic phrases. Metaphors. Metaphors. And she was like, why are you using so many phrases? I was like, okay, rude. I didn't realize that I was.

I didn't realize I was under attack. No, but sometimes, like, those phrases are the only thing to say. Yeah. Instead of saying, you know, like whatever bloom where you're planted translates to. You're saying it poorly or saying it in a phrase. Right. Like maybe you should just try and like grow like and saying like a thousand times. In the place that you're in.

Right. Because the place that you're not is like not the place where you're meant to grow. Yeah. Or I could just say bloom where you're planted. Or I could just say that. And do with that what you will. So we've got a great show. I feel as though

it's a great time to dive in. What do you think? I think so. It's always a great time to dive in. No, that's actually not true. No. We could always wax poetic.

Yeah. And sometimes we do. Yeah, we do. And I think that today we shall continue to. Yeah. So without further do-do-do-do-do here are the past five stories that you need to know. Oh, before we start, I have a funny story to tell you that has a lot to do. Waxing poetic. Yeah, that has a lot to do

with what I'm about to talk about. So the craziest thing just happened to Ben. And I feel like it's a cautionary tale. It's also just a hilarious story. So for Spritz, they have all these different reps in like different markets. And they have like credit cards to buy promotional materials for you know going into stores and selling spritz so they have like you know flyers like a company card a company card and so when they were doing expensive expensive these reps like never have more than like 200 on their monthly accounts because they're really just buying like flyers and cardboard and stuff like that and this one rep who's like this really cool young guy that Ben knows. I think in Texas, his credit card charges were like $1,200. So Ben called him up and was like, by the way,

why was your expenses? Like, it's fine. But like, can you tell me what you spent all this money on? He was like, those gift cards that you asked me to get. And Ben was like, what? He's like, you literally texted me asking me to get you gift cards. And Ben's like, what are you talking about? So the guy sends a screenshot to Ben and he's like, as he's sending them, he's like, okay, in hindsight, I realized like, I think we might've been scammed. Like someone was impersonating you. Me and Ben are cackling, reading these messages. Somebody impersonated Ben Jackie to a T, signed off on these text messages thank you Ben's offer founder and CEO of Spritz like literally it's so much information on Ben and they ask this guy to pick up gift cards he's like hey I'm coming to town for some clients can you pick up gift cards so guy was like yeah

sure what do you need right and he runs to like a drugstore and buys all these gift cards sends pictures and the guy is is being like I need them now I need them now please get them now and the guy who works for Ben is like okay sure just doing what his what his boss is asking and signed off on every message founder and CEO spritz like it was crazy how much information this person had when they were impersonating Ben that's so scary it is does make you chuckle and that's like a low stakes right situation but it's so scary and there are so many crazy stories of impersonation scams and so and ben is like um like a tech savvy young person he's not like who you would think is like typically susceptible and so is this guy they're not who you would think is

susceptible to impersonation scams and that's why amazon is really passionate about making sure that you are as protected as you possibly can be when shopping. So with Amazon, it's so important that you verify your purchases on Amazon. So if you receive a message about the purchase of a product or a service, do not respond to that message or click on the link in the message. Always log into your Amazon account, use the Amazon mobile app and confirm that it really is your purchase before taking any action. You can trust Amazon's app and website. They will not ask for payment over the phone or by email only on the mobile app on their website or in one of their physical stores. They will never call to ask for payment. I once got a call from someone saying it was Amazon. I'm like,

Amazon does not call. At first I was like, wait, what? Because I had made like a big purchase on Amazon. Weirdly, that was just coincidence. I was like, oh, they're calling me about my big purchase. Yeah. And then I like took a pause and I was like, they wouldn't call me call me they've never called me before and I'll check my app if there's an issue they know where to reach me so it's so important to be wary of urgency and that's really something I saw in Ben's the guy was like so panicked come on hurry I need it now so if there's like that sense of urgency that's like a really big red flag for scammers because they often try to create a sense of urgency to persuade you to do what they're asking. Do not be pressured to buy a gift card. Gift card is like the biggest red flag. Amazon will never ask you to purchase a gift card. No legitimate sale or transaction will require you to pay with gift cards. You can

learn more about common gift card scams on the Amazon help pages. So if you're ever unsure, just contact Amazon. You can also see what else has been reported in a similar situation because in the US, Amazon has partnered with the Better Business Bureau to provide consumers a searchable scam tracker that enables you to search suspicious communications reported by others via email, URL, phone number, and more. So I know everyone thinks they're like above it. Like I'm smart. I could never, like I'm not my grandma, but you know what? Ben and his coworker who are both like young guys who work at a startup, they're very tech savvy. They are the perfect example of people who probably would never be, you know, susceptible to something like this.

And they got scammed and they didn't even realize until a month later. No, the scammers are adapting. Yeah. And so we have to too. You have to too. Always be on alert when you're shopping with Amazon, which I know a lot of you do almost on a daily basis. Trust their app.

Trust their website. Do not trust phone calls. Turn emails out of the blue. Always check the app. Be wary of urgency. Be wary of anybody asking you to get a gift card and always verify your purchases on Amazon. Thank you, Amazon. We're glad to partner with you today because this is a very important PSA. It is. Thank you so much, Claudia. You're welcome. like I was like roasting Ben but you know what like it kind of freaked me out like if it can happen to Ben yeah it can happen to me yeah Ben has gotten scammed like a couple times both of you are pretty gullible though no I don't think so that you're not skeptical no I'm not I don't know I could see you like being like oh my god I got this text oh my god they want me to go to like red carpet go to the Oscars that's how you

could like actually scam me if anybody if anybody was looking to literally if anybody was looking to scam me just invite me to the oscars oh my god so please don't do it are you ready for our first story i am i would say the stories today are in no particular order you know just sort of importance the chip let the chips fall where they may sort of thing let the chips fall where they may yeah first viewers are panning kelly ripa and mark consuelos's brutal first live show together the eagerly anticipated first episode of live with kelly and mark starring married couple kelly ripa and mark consuelos has garnered mixed reviews many viewers accused the married couple of fake banter and being boring during the hour-long show. Ripa was even accused of repeatedly interrupting him when Mark shared that the two had enjoyed a romantic stroll through the park recently.

She had interrupted him on that story, I guess. And there was some kissing. Oh, that's unnecessary. So I haven't seen it, mostly because I don't care. But I do want to say, as somebody who can speak from experience, like working with your partner, I think a lot of people would think it's like seamless chemistry. It's probably more difficult than working with like a co-worker.

So I'm going to give Kelly like a little breathing room to, you know, find their footing. It took me and Ben Years actually Years Yeah Even aside from It being her husband Like a new co-host Right

It takes a second To find your step Like Terni and I We do a little dance Yeah It's like a little Salsa Tango

Yeah And it takes a while It takes time And being interrupted Is part of our dance Yeah Like it's one of the steps Right

And it's gorgeous Amazing And maybe they'll work that into theirs as well but it takes time I don't think if you're if you've been a lover of Kelly and live with Kelly that like you should never watch again that's what people are saying this is this is the last time I'm watching and it's like give them a beat even regardless of being husband and wife but that does add another layer and it's like if she was interrupting her co-host you just be like oh Kelly's interrupting but then it becomes a critique on their marriage yes I know and it's like if she was interrupting her co-host, you'd just be like, oh, Kelly's interrupting. But then it becomes a critique on their marriage.

Yes, I know. And it's just a lot. And I'm going to stand with my girl Kelly and just be like, give her a second. No, I agree. Like our whole perception of Kelly has like really kind of, at least for me, like shifted. Yeah. Because now I feel like this extreme kinship with her as somebody who like used to get absolutely annihilated when they podcasted with their husband.

And you're right. It turns into like a critique on your job, which is always tough to a critique on your marriage, which is so deeply personal. Fuck all the way off. So I stand with Kelly as well. She has my full support. She will get through this. They will get to a place to transition from like home life to work life like publicly.

It's it takes it takes a minute. And, you know, people are very unforgiving. So I'm going to give her a unforgiving so I'm gonna give her a break I'm gonna give her a few weeks to figure it out yeah to me this doesn't mean like the show is bad or he was the wrong choice they just need time and also it's not only like Mark has to adjust to being a daytime talk show host and I'm sure the times that he went on before it was like fun and all about him I feel like that's exactly what happens with our husbands like there's a difference between having them on as a guest and it's like we're just asking you questions about

you versus like okay now you are co-captaining this ship. You're here to work. You're here to work. Yeah. I'm sure he's figuring that out but also like Kelly has to kind of rejigger herself around whoever her new co-host is. Yeah no for sure. I also just think like these things take time. Chemistry is a very you know Kelly Clarkson said it best chemistry is very she actually like didn't say it great yeah no I don't even know what you like it could be good and bad she said chemistry could be really good or really bad it was yeah I just felt like there was a tighter way to say it from such a lyricist I know so I wasn't sure like what I

was trying to say I'm just like they'll figure it out chemistry man I'm not worried about them no I'm not worried either and I'm giving Kelly Grace I'm not worried about them no I'm not worried either and I'm giving Kelly Grace I'm giving Kelly Grace and then I was looking for stories this morning and my god page six was reaching they said Andy Cohen seems to show support for Kelly Ripa and you know because she's been dragged for her first episode with Mark and I was like oh I wonder what he said that's nice of him and I go and it's like he posted an Instagram story of a Snoopy cartoon and it was like you'll be okay that literally could have been about quite literally anything that's crazy why would they assume that that was about

Kelly there wasn't a shadow tag or a small tag no it's not weird that is weird like I get reaching for stories cuz like we know today was like not like a crazy big news day but my god like have some integrity that was crazy yeah damn are you ready for our next story another host who's getting some backlash oh yes too yes fans are petitioning to remove nick and vanessa lachey as the love is blind hosts fans are calling for the couple's removal from the buzzy netflix dating show over claims the pair were biased towards some of the cast of the season four reunion some person wrote this reunion just feels so awkward doesn't seem like there's any flow hosts are way too biased it's just weird

another one said another unpopular opinion but nick and vanessa are bad hosts who are clearly biased so this is just like a roundup of mean tweets plus a petition that has garnered more than 6 000 signatures which isn't a lot. No, it's not. Saying that they should be removed. But see, the thing is, is like, I thought they did a bad job too, but it's almost unfair because it was live. Like I have actually thought, I remember last season thinking that Vanessa really did a very good job.

Nick was mute and I didn't even understand why he was sitting there, but I thought Vanessa was really good. And it's clear that she's just like a host who needs to be edited like oh I didn't think it was the live aspect I feel like she's doing the job that they've asked her to do by injecting so much of herself into it like I don't think she's going off script so much I feel like Netflix or the producers of Love is Blind like like how invested Nick and Vanessa are and they've chosen to like have hosts who aren't just like this third party objective person and more people who are like ingrained in the show, who are super fans of the show and also like can give marriage advice along

the way. I did agree that she was biased. Yeah. But I feel like if they wanted her to be unbiased, they would have said so. Yeah. I feel like she was given license and encouraged to really like, to take,

to almost like represent the internet. Yes. In her job. That's what she did. That's exactly what it is. So who do people feel like she was rude to? Paul? Paul. She sent him flowers.

She did? Yeah, he posted it on his Instagram story. And Paul was also TMZ'd at the airport. Do you think she sent him flowers because she like felt bad about this? I mean, I don't see anybody else getting flowers that's kind of crazy maybe she felt bad I did feel like she went she particularly hard on him when they were talking about that whole like nurturing thing yeah and it was it was exactly what you had said like people are allowed to feel

a certain way about a partner and break up with them and not say it just to not hurt their feelings like yeah you have to say everything you feel you You don't. So, and they just like, would not let it go. Nick too. Yeah. Um, so I mean, I don't know if she deserves to be fired.

I don't think she should be fired, but I think that if like the producers agree that she went too hard, then she can pull it back next season. But I feel like she did what she was asked to do. She was, she did the job she was hired to do. Yeah. And I feel like they wanted to have hosts who would be as passionate as the viewers feel and really feel like they're

representing the viewers it didn't work out and the viewers are like even though I think the viewers agreed with some of these biases it was still painful to watch her like badger people yeah even I thought what was more painful was like the conversation about babies yes she's better she's gotten a lot of flack for that and I I understand like you know just asking the general question like babies you know you just got married it's not like crazy crazy and it's not so offensive but she just like would and stuff like she literally wants a date no it was like she was trying to reach like a word limit on an essay like she just kept or like they needed to hit a certain amount of time on the, like, she wouldn't let it go. No, and like,

as a viewer, I'm like, these people just got married. Let's talk to season one couples about having a baby at least. Right. Like if we're gonna, if we need Love is Blind babies

right now. Well, speaking of season one couples, a lot of people, and I actually don't disagree with this, say that, you know, they hate Nick and Vanessa. They want to replace them with Lauren and Cameron Hamilton,

which, honestly, is probably a good idea. I just don't think hate Nick and Vanessa they want to replace them with Lauren and Cameron Hamilton which um honestly is probably a good idea I just don't think that Nick and Vanessa deserve to be fired I don't think they deserve to be fired I love Lauren and Cam I have not seen anything that would show me that they're good hosts right I feel like we always have this conversation where just like everyone thinks that oh I like this person they should be a host and it's it's it's his job for a reason um I think what is Vanessa Lachey's resume she was like a TRL yeah she be a host and it's it's it's his job for a reason um I think what is Vanessa Lachey's resume she was like a TRL yeah she was a host yeah and is a host um and I think just she'll edit herself a little more next season if that's what the producers want from her but I do feel like at the end of the day even though the reunion wasn't tea filled the season wasn't like amazing

there's only so many questions to ask I don't feel like there was any question that she didn't ask that I wanted answered same thing and there were so question that she didn't ask that I wanted answered same same and there were so many questions that she did ask that I was like yes you're right yes and she were like even when she was grilling Marshall she remembered every single important thing that Jackie said in the interview yeah and got actually got information from him all in all it was just like a very weird reunion and I think a lot of people are like blaming everything on Nick and Vanessa and like yeah they definitely could have done better. But the live element made it so weird. There were so many audio issues.

We didn't even talk about that when someone's mic was on in the control room. Who was that? I don't know. It was so fucking weird. And then like threw everyone off. I forget who was talking at the time. I think it was Paul. Whatever.

Yeah. But then there was like a few other times when someone else's mic was like popping. There was quite literally no reason for this reunion to be live. None. And I think a lot of the issues people had with Nick and Vanessa would have been um eliminated had it just been edited because nobody really has ever had a problem with them prior and the reunion itself was just like for cocked for a multitude of reasons including Nick and Vanessa being weird but to blame it all on them is just like it ain't right yeah it should not have been live but I do

think that even her her passion would have come through in an edited version but I think that's why people have liked her up until this point like she's very invested in the internet yeah she's invested like she actually cares I don't know if it's fake or whatever but like it's nice it's nice and we complain all the time like doesn't seem like Andy cares and here we have two people who are like she was referencing all these things from the internet that I never even heard I'm like oh wow I really feel like up to speed. Andy actually went on Radio Andy and like spoke about this. Just the element about it being a live reunion

and how like they should have learned from Real Housewives of Miami. Like live reunions are the most unnecessary thing. Beyond unnecessary. It's not like Netflix is like known for their live programming. So what, this is like the second thing they've tried to do? Why this?

I don't know. Why now? It must be enormously popular. Like beyond what we had even expected yeah because andy say why real houses of miami was such a flop like on his from his pov because it was live it was psychotic like what element of it uh no he just said it was chaos and they've never done it again yeah and it was bad yeah even though it was bad in the, but now we look back on it like as like a historic, iconic moment. But yes,

I guess when we watched it at first, we were like, this is crazy. I wish we got a regular reunion. Yeah. But now in like the Bravo Hall of Fame for a show that like, you know, went on hiatus and it's just,

it's kind of like a, it's a badge of honor to have been a part of it. I actually think this Love is Blind should not have been live. And the technical piece was the worst part. And like the fact that everyone was waiting. But as far as the content that came out of it, aside from the long-winded answers from some people that needed chopping down, I actually felt like the content was fine.

Like they moved along. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They asked every question. Everyone got to speak. Oh, I also did read because you and I watched the live stream. We were able to, but most people were not. And most people got it up on their Netflix the next day and I had heard that pieces of it were cut like it wasn't exactly what we you and I saw I mean they should have cut out I'm sure they did

you know when that mic went rogue in the control room so any technical stuff but I don't know what else well that makes sense kind of like how Chris Rock he like Flubbed a joke Flubbed a joke And they edited it For when it stays up Did they? Yeah They fixed it right Oh okay good Yeah I think about that a lot

How fucking annoyed He must have been At that moment I know If you didn't watch his special It was good You should go watch it I mean he has this like

Big joke at the end About the Will Smith thing He doesn't talk about The Will Smith thing Until the end And everyone's just kind of Like waiting waiting waiting And then he fucking pops off

It's like 20 minutes of popping off. He's mad. But he has one like really technical joke. It's like a three minute joke so he plants something in the beginning of the joke

and then by the end he brings back something like a call back to something he spoke about three minutes ago. It was supposed to be very brilliant and he totally fucked it up

and he was like so visibly mad at himself. And then he did it again. He was like, let me do that again and did it again. So I think when you watch the edited version it just cuts to. As it should. And he was like so visibly mad at himself. And then he did it again. He was like, let me do that again. And did it again. So I think when you watch the edited version, it just cuts to.

As it should. Yeah. And I'm sure they said that to him. Like if you mess up, just do it again and we'll edit it. Doing a live comedy special. I mean, I don't know. I guess it's like not that different than just doing like a live comedy show. Yeah.

But like it is crazy. But a live comedy show people can't watch over and over again. Yeah. Like it's that moment in time. It's crazy. It was really cool. Again, like unnecessary. Yeah. I don't why netflix is getting into the live game i don't know it's like all these streamers are now becoming just like cable i'm dropping three episodes at

a time no and then they all like merge and they're just channels everyone is doing this dropping like new seasons a couple episodes miss mazel only has three now they need to make money are we gonna have to start watching commercials like it's literally becoming television no you're so right i was actually thinking like during the love is blind thing if they were gonna have like a sponsor or something like this love is blind is brought to you by or just product placement like everybody drinking dasani or something yeah yeah that's a good point we're like moving backwards i know and it's like netflix is giving us less and less these days not dropping binge seasons doing fakata life and their subscription price keeps going up and they're you know stopping all these things you can't share passwords

more than one person on a household becoming cable it's becoming cable yeah the cableification of netflix of streamers of streamers yeah because i mean peacock i literally watch with commercials peacock is cable but at least it's because it's cable it's NBC's you know what I mean yeah but like I pay for less commercials did you also hear that HBO Max is rebranding to Max to Maximilian which I wouldn't be a bad name but HBO is like a legacy brand home box office like and I'm like good with HBO Max I didn't feel the need to edit I feel like they don't need a rebrand They're in a really good place right now They're still straddling like the line of cable

Like they do episodes once a week But it doesn't bother people because they're HBO Yeah It's like there's a precedent I don't know why they're trying to fix something That ain't motherfucking broke Not at all I don't get it

Not at all And it's gonna be confusing Are we watching Max tonight? I don't know Am I babysitting? Literally, it's going to be confusing. And it used to be confusing because remember they had HBO Go, HBO, HBO Max. They had like four different things.

Yes, HBO Go. And then they got their shit together and it's like HBO Max. Okay, we are HBO Max, HBO Max. Now you're going to switch it up. You're finally doing well. Like you're an actual competitor. A lot of people thought you wouldn't be. Like stop.

Yeah. Everybody's just doing the most. But like the least. But I hope that if they do rebrand like again in a few years as you know companies do that they would brand to Maximilian. I think it's a little long. No but it's like a really powerful name for a streamer. Maximilian.

What does Hulu stand for? Hulu. Like HBO is home box office. Netflix is internet flicks movies. Yeah. Flicks from the net. Right. What the hell is Hulu? I HBO is home box office. Netflix is internet flicks movies. Yeah. Flicks from the net. Right. What the hell is Hulu?

I'm looking it up. Hulu meaning. Oh, I'm not typing anything. And what are the other streamers? Oh, Prime. I guess that just like doesn't mean anything. It's just. The name Hulu comes from two Mandarin Chinese characters.

Hulu, which is Calabash, gourd and Hulu interactive recording oh it comes from a Chinese proverb Hulu is Mandarin for gourd g-o-u-r-d okay uh and in gourd in ancient times was hollowed out and used to hold precious things oh you know they just had like a branding agency coming up with a bunch of names and they said We want to be a verb Like Google And then they came up with Hulu And it's Because we hold precious things

Or interactive recording Or interactive recording I mean It works It works It works And it's a good amount of letters H-U-L-U

But it's a stretch Majorly The board holds many things What other streaming Oh Disney Plus Paramount Plus Now that's like the trend. Everyone doing Plus.

Discovery Plus. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure eventually those will rebrand. Yeah. There's so many now. I know. I feel like we're forgetting one really big one.

I know. Netflix, Hulu, HBO Max. Prime. I said Prime. Oh. And it's just like that's an extension of an already billion dollar brand. Like it doesn't. Yeah, but it's called like That's an extension Of an already Billion dollar brand Like it doesn't Yeah but it's called

Prime Video They gotta drop the video Actually like the The logo Like the square On your Apple TV It just says Prime Oh really

Yeah Yeah that's good I could see them Changing that Yeah Okay well Wishing Nick and Vanessa

Like a good week I say I'm with Nick and Vanessa I know I'm not into All this backlash Also people really underestimate like how difficult it is

to host something like that. And I thought they did fine. It was fine. And I think that they did the job they were hired to do and next year there will be edits based on the 6,000 people.

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from acting she took a two-year break recently saying i needed to stay sane she talks about some of the roles that she's turned down along the way because like she just was on a break was on a break but also no like even after mean girls like she turned down Devil Wears Prada, Casino Royale, Iron Man. And she also is posing with her armpit hair. So really? But she talked about like that she didn't want

the publication. It was with Bustle. She didn't want them to like retouch the photos a lot, but like she didn't like really talk about the decision. She just had her armpits there with like no explanation.

Yeah. She said, this is my body. That's totally fine. About like a million things, you know, post having kids, with like no explanation. Yeah. She said, this is my body. That's totally fine. About like a million things, you know, post having kids like this is me. Yeah. Okay. So let's quickly talk about the fact that she could have been Andy in Devil Wears Prada

because I really could see it. You think it would have been Andy? Yeah. Who else? I don't know. Emily Blunt? No. She was so, no.

And I saw the article that said it was the Anne Hathaway role. She actually would have been a great Andy. She would have brought that morning glory energy nerdy like chaotic so a lot of times celebrities will be like well years later say oh I was actually initially offered this

role and I can't really see them in that role but this is one of the few times where I actually really could have seen her in this film yeah she said she was also she also turned down Iron

Man what Iron Man get smart Mission Impossible 3 and Casino Royale that's a Bond movie I guess like the big ones are like Devil Wears Prada and Casino Royale like that sucks and Iron Man um but I have a lot of respect for her taking these breaks and like no matter what opportunity came across like sticking with the fact that she's on a break I think that's like so healthy and it kind of makes sense because she's so normal to me yeah um and like the movies that she has chosen to do since then like the notebook like she's still like chosen winners yeah I mean I wouldn't say that Eurovision one was a winner but it's okay glory yeah no she's she's a star and she can afford to

pass up on things like this because yeah hey it doesn't seem like she really cares about being in every film and having the most money and the most accolades like she just wants to live to work not work to live you can't dance at every no sorry work to live not live to work you can't dance at every wedding right and she seems really balanced and I love that for her so I don't think it bothers her that she missed out on no she that No she seems like A star with a good head On her shoulders She takes being a mom Really seriously

And her career Really seriously She's a very serious actress And a very talented actress Yeah And the movie looks Really cute By the way

So cute I only recently heard That they were making Are You There God It's Me Margaret into a movie I don't really remember What that book was about I know it was about A young girl going through changes.

Yeah, like puberty. Cute. Cute. Cute. I'm sure the film will be cute. Judy Blume is a pijam. But let's talk about the armpits. Yeah, let's talk about them because they're just there.

I think they're, you know, this is me. These are my armpits. You know, she could have shaved for the shoot and she didn't. No, and you know what? She could have put her arms to the side, but she didn't. So I am like vehement me these are my armpits you know she could have shaved for the shoot and she didn't no and you know what her arms to the side but she didn't so I am like vehemently against having hairy armpits personally I don't care what other people do with their bodies but like for me I just know like I will never be the girl who has hairy armpits and shows them off yeah of course sometimes I grow out but it's private right right right you're and I got them lasered like there's really only so much they can grow out a statement um but I don't care what other people do with their bodies and i just hate when people like do things and it's

like women should do that like shut up women should do whatever they want so if her she's out here with her armpits and like not even like saying anything about it like i love that yeah i just hate when people like do things and then are like oh women should do this like shut up or like shaving armpits is bad it's for the patriarchy you know what it's not like i just want to shave my armpits okay like is Like, is that okay? Right. Like, I just hate when people do things in articles like this and then have to make, like, a big statement on it. She didn't even mention it.

I love that. Yeah. So, Rachel McAdams. She's back in the game. So, oh, she's promoting Judy Blume. Okay. That's, like, a cute role for her. Yeah.

What was the last thing she was in? Spotlight. No. I think that Eurovision movie came out afterwards sorry there was something in 2020 it was so she just came off a break is that what she was saying yeah got it that makes sense because I feel like sometimes she's like popping and then sometimes I like forget about her yeah and she credits Mean Girls as like her breakout role she wasn't in anything before that not of that caliber it is so crazy the trajectory of the Mean Girls when you look at someone like Rachel McAdams and then you look at someone like Lacey Chabert like how were they both like they really had the same launching pad yeah but look at Amanda Seyfried right exactly Rachel McAdams it's just about what's it about like who your team is team desire desire perhaps

it's crazy what you know life look at Lindsay right who do you think's the most successful post Mean Girls of the four Amanda Seyfried Rachel McAdams I think Amanda Seyfried it depends on what the year it also depends on the year like I like Rachel McAdams I think Amanda Seyfried It depends on What you like It also depends on the year But like I like Rachel McAdams movies Better than Amanda Seyfried It's like I didn't watch

The Dropout I don't watch Mamma Mia Me neither but In terms of success I'm not saying Who would we like most I'm saying who's most successful Like for every one movie

Of ones There's like a Equal of the other Do you know what I mean No because Because Amanda Seyfried Has a franchise Mamma mia does rachel mcadams have a franchise she's in something i think big transformers i don't think she's in any marvel she's in transformers no i'm saying i don't think she is i think she's in one thing like that like a marvel-y dc comics

vibe yeah like a money-making machine okay let's see We're on her IMDb Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of madness Oh okay that's definitely One of those yeah Yeah Eurovision game Night Doctor Strange Again Spotlight True

Detective oh Southpaw Drop drop a comment who Do you think is more of a Success let's pit women Against each other Rachel McAdams or Amanda Seyfried? Sherlock Holmes. Two Sherlock Holmeses.

The Hot Chick. Oh my God. The Rowback. That was after Mean Girls, yeah? Yeah. Iconic. So good. That movie was really good.

Just here to remind you, Rob Schneider's daughter is Elle King. Yeah. Wedding Crashers. Oh, yeah. Like, there's really good. And those are movies that I love. And I think Amanda Seyfried has, like, you know, Letters to Juliet or whatever. yeah wedding crashers oh yeah like there's really good and those are movies that i love and i think amanda seyfried has like you know letters to juliet or whatever but i didn't see it right

so i that's why i say personal preference like i think their net worth she has letters to juliet and she also has dear john right she has two movies about letters she writes a lot of letters she's constantly writing letters let's see and then you don't touch the morgan ladders Let's see Amanda Seyfried IMDB You don't touch the Morgan Ladders Amanda Seyfried IMDB Oh she was in Les Mis Yeah she's very Oscar-y

Yeah Rachel's not she's more commercial Yeah that's true It's very Kelsey and Juliet commercial versus editorial Yeah That's another reference like I don't think I'll ever stop bringing up Like when they were talking on Siesta Key about like being a commercial model versus an editorial model. But it was Kelsey versus herself. Julia wasn't involved.

Like Amanda Seyfried has so many movies and I have never heard of them. Right. So I guess maybe like Rachel McAdams is more your niche. But I'm just curious who people think is more successful. Ted too. Of course. But to me that's like a travesty. Yeah.

Because it should have been Mila Kunis. Yeah. Dear John. Okay. There's way more movies for Amanda Seyfried, just want to say. More volume. Because she didn't take those years off.

Comes full circle. Are you ready for our next story? I don't think you're ready for this, Jelly. I don't think you're ready for this, Jelly. I think we're all ready for our next story? I don't think you're ready for this, Jelly. I don't think you're ready for this, Jelly. I think we're all ready for this next story because Victoria Justice is addressing a long-time rumor that she's jealous of Ariana Grande. So she is saying...

I'm in pain. I'm in pain, too. You watch the videos. Of course. Shout out Erin Lim for asking the questions that needed to be asked. It was at Coachella, right? Yeah, they interviewed her at Coachella.

They posted the Instagram on Monday. And she said that despite not wanting to talk about this topic anymore she did she said we were both like this is so stupid she said of hearing the rivalry rumors for the first time more than 10 years ago uh justice now said Ariana texted her at the time and they both blasted the narrative that was creative of them created of them not being friends with each other yeah she basically said this is like an internet thing me and Ariana are fine I've spoken to Ariana multiple times like I wish people would let this go and I can't let this go I can't let this go and I think we all shouldn't let it go and I'm sure that it's fine I'm sure that like I don't think I think Victoria was looking at her

Instagram after this I think she's like very happy in her life and her career. And you know, isn't like with her voodoo doll of Ariana. And it doesn't really like think about Ariana, you know, cause they both come, it's been 10 years. Yeah. But I do think at the time that we all realized that there was something going on.

No, I think there's an element of truth to this in the sense of back in the day when they were literally tweens and like they were all popping off and it was definitely competitive and those child show environments were like toxic. There was an element of jealousy. I think that's like human nature because you know, it was Victoria's show, but I think like everyone like in the cast like loved Ari so much

and Ari had this amazing voice and it was a show about singers and like for some reason, Victoria Justin was the main character, but like Ariana was this powerhouse vocalist like there was definitely something there and with I'm sure they all moved on I'm sure they're fine now but I don't know there's just you know Ariana is like really good friends with Liz Gillies and Matt Bennett from the show and they like come to all of they've come to see Ariana on tour and they've done like projects together and you know

Victoria and Ariana haven't done any projects together. So I'm just saying. Yeah. Like, I don't think it's out of nowhere. I think maybe it wasn't as big as. People made it. People made it. Probably wasn't like the only thing happening on set. And maybe it was just like a small undercurrent. Yeah. And I think just the way we've all sort of hung on to it.

It's because we're immature and petulant children. It's because of the video. If we all hadn't seen that, I don't think that we all would still be talking about this. That video interview of them as kids goes viral every six months and it reaches an entirely new audience, which is why people don't let this go

because people are like, every day somebody new learns about that video. And I feel bad for Victoria that it just kind of follows her. Her whole life is whittled down to this one interview I think she could have responded and been like I think we all know that's not true yeah no once again it's like once you lean in it it'll pass you by I think she thought she was leaning in by responding to it yeah you know finally addressing it no but she

said in the interview she's like I like don't want to talk about this like she made it seem like there was more there like maybe I'm looking into it too much you know and I I want to like believe her you know because people deserve to be believed a hundred percent but I think we all know about the truth we all know the truth it's like I actually feel bad for her, but like not enough to stop. Agreed. It's like if I if I like put this to bed, could I still say we all? No, because that's you not putting it to bed. Right. So I can't. So I don't think we all can put it to bed.

We all stay awake. Yep. But I do feel bad. Not enough to stop. Not enough to stop because it's like so much. It's just a part of who we are now. It's our DNA to say, I think we all should. Like, I think we're all.

But it's also to me. I don't even remember what the original line is. She said, I think we all sing. Yeah. Because there was like an interview question. Who's the most musical? Liz Gillies was gushing about Ari singing. How she just like will burst

into song in the middle of a conversation and there wasn't even a question like and then they were like to daniella monet but daniella also does that and then ari and liz were like yeah daniella and then out of nowhere victoria i think we all sing it's the best moment of my life like i will never stop talking about it sorry and to And to me, it just, it seems so silly. It's harmless. And harmless. But I do feel like it's not to her. Yeah. But it's also, and this is going to be like, I guess, mean.

Maybe we're all still talking about it when it comes to Victoria Justice. Because what else is there to talk about? She needs to get out there. Do more projects. For a while, was she in that? Or was that Nina Dobrev? I get them so confused. That holiday movie?

Nina Dobrev. Okay. She's an Victoria influencer Victoria Justice well she needs some more things because we're just talking about this because she's given us nothing else to talk about like she needs like a scandal or something I don't know yeah no I just think we all sing I think the same I would agree anyways it was glad to see her looking well. Yeah, she looked cute, like in her element as an influencer at Coachella. Yeah. Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

Yeah. Real Housewives of Beverly Hills alum Teddy Mellencamp claims that she had a one night stand with Matt Damon. I totally believe this, by the way. Yep. So Tamara is outing some of BFF Teddy Mellencamp's Sex life secrets the Two peas in a pod co-host appeared On Jeff Lewis live on Tuesday

Where Tamara forced Teddy to open up about her One night stand with Matt Damon 20 years Ago Tamara said she mentioned It on a podcast and then went back and told Producers take that guy's name out and so now I tell people if you guys want to know Just DM and I'll tell you who it is that's funny she tells people on the dms I'm like stop telling people Teddy said

I did not want to out this guy who knows um I mean 20 years ago Matt Damon was so unbelievably hot like I'm so happy for Teddy I definitely believe I feel like a lot of times real housewives like say that they like remember Carol Radswell said That she slept with George Clooney She did Or she went on a date with him Something like that

Every now and then Like a celebrity Like certain Housewives Who really are Like I believe Teddy Mellencamp Was running in circles

As like a young Nepo baby With Matt Damon 20 years ago Carol Radswell Was like very much In the upper echelon I could see how

She would run into George Clooney And I find this fascinating And I love that she's sharing Yeah it's really funny 20 years ago. Carol Radswell was like very much in the upper echelon. I could see how she would run into George Clooney. And I find this fascinating and I love that she's sharing. Yeah, it's really funny. Teddy and Tamara are such unlikely best friends.

Best friends. They were really successful podcast. I know, you know, Teddy Mellencamp's post Housewives Life could have been really sad, but it's not.

I feel like Kyle really keeps her in the fold. Like, so she's still very much like films a little bit. And I keeps her in the fold like so she's still very much like films a little bit and I do I have heard rumors that she's filming this season um I feel like she totally should because she's there anyway like sometimes you have to work so hard to invite someone to these events but like with with someone who's always around um and has something to say like I feel like that's fine yeah she really should bring her dad around more like as much as

um Dorit brings around boy George like we should be seeing John Cougar Mellencamp because John Cougar Mellencamp is like I mean Boy George is like obviously like major but like John Cougar Mellencamp is like especially for the people who watch Housewives which is like mostly older women yeah they're like it's like he's like their king yeah so I feel like she was booted off a little too soon I know people really didn't like her at the time but I feel like she's had a really good post Housewives career. Her podcast is extremely successful. It's actually really impressive. Like her and,

and Tamara, like work really hard at it. They spill a lot of tea, anything even remotely Housewives related. That's like a tiny bit of tea they say for their podcast. It's really impressive. Yeah. I'm happy for her.

And like, honestly, she should come back. She should come back. But also remember back in the day, we used to say she would have been better Suited for OC yes what people used to Say cuz she did have a house in the OC Too but I do think I know she wound up

BFF with Tamara I know but I think like Their relationship only works because They're on different franchises like I Don't think it would be as you know Copacetic yeah had they been on the same Show and I guess that's probably part of The success of their podcast is that They're on different franchises because I Think a lot of housewives have podcasts with co-hosts.

Yeah, from their franchise. But I think that they are one of the biggest housewife podcasts and they're not even active housewives. No. Tamra currently is. She's on OC now. It's airing? No, but it's filmed. Okay.

So, yes. But when they started, they were both kind of like defunct. Yeah. And this podcast has really turned it around for them. It's like, it's an amazing, it's amazing what a podcast could do. It's amazing what a podcast can do. And the cream rises. Don't forget that.

Don't forget that. And don't forget that Teddy Mellencamp had a one night stand with Matt Damon. Oh yeah. I'm like, I love that for her. Yeah. Matt Damon was in air. Have you, you haven't seen it? No.

You really should. And he was excellent in it. Look at my. But like 20 years ago, Jackie, that's like Good Will Hunting. Like that was when he was like, maybe that my uh but like 20 years ago Jackie that's like goodwill hunting like that was when he was like maybe that was like goodwill hunting was like a little bit older than that but that was like when he was really really hot yeah he's still handsome but you know his prime it's just a fun fact I love that for her I bet she has like other crazy stories about like being John Mellencamp's daughter like that's iconic yeah she never really spoke about

it I think she was like very afraid of being like known just for that and everyone be like all right we get it like stop talking about your dad so she ran away from it to the point where I literally forget that she has a famous father yeah until she posted about him on Instagram I'm like oh yeah that's like a fun fact about her but I do wish she would talk about it more I bet she has like some wild stories maybe she talks about on her podcast maybe another incentive it would be a good place to talk about things another incentive for everybody to listen all right well those were the fast five you certainly needed to know them but don't fret because the show is far from over because we've got to your toasters our weekly advice segment where we give advice to anyone

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prioritize dating i've gone on so many dates and i'm constantly bored by these men a bunch of big fat nothing burgers i tend to be extremely picky with guys and I find an excuse to stop seeing them after a few dates. But I've been seeing this new guy for a few months and he has literally no X. He's so hot. He's smart. He's interesting. We're culturally similar and we have very similar values. We have a really strong connection, but there's one thing. He self-published three books and I read them. I sort of ignored how self-publishing is a little cringy and I read them anyway. He keeps asking me for my thoughts in a super genuine and bashful way and I don't know what to say because the books are insufferable.

I've just been thinking, I've just been giving vague compliments, but thank God this is not his day job because it really feels like I'm reading some random kid's high school English paper that never ends. This feels so mean to say because he's such an amazing guy and I really like him aside from this. I don't want to lie to him, but I obviously can't say I hate your books. I don't know if this is a real issue or just me being dramatic and looking for an out. It's making me want to end things which feels so crazy. Help. What do I say to him and do I keep seeing him?

Love, a well-read toaster. I just want to say I only find fault in one thing that you said and that's that self-publishing is cringy. I just want to say self-publishing is probably the smartest thing you can do financially and it shows initiative like obviously he's not like a writer with a huge following like you can't just get published and the fact that he's not like waiting for some you know hopeless dream to come true he just took initiative I feel like it actually shows a lot of really good qualities you want in like a partner also I imagine that that's not his full-time job. She said it's not. So this is a hobby. I think it's really important for people to have hobbies like creative outlets,

just things that bring them joy. And he's taking initiative, getting it published, like not, you know, waiting and hoping that this book is going to be like the next big thing. But moving on with his life while also pursuing his passions. It is really awkward to like read someone's book and not like it and there's

three of them and he wants to know what you think um but I think we can chalk it up to just like this awkward thing about the relationship if everything else is so perfect like do not do not do not like that's hella dramatic I don't know I think it's sweet like I think it's cool when people have passions I think it's cool I mean you have to be somewhat financially stable to self-publish because you got to put up a lot of money. So like maybe he's rich. We love that. I'm just trying to look for the positives. In what ways is the book bad?

Like, is it? What kind of book is it? What kind of book is it? Like, is it a memoir? Is it bad because it's just like, you know, it sounds like Paul talking on Love is Blind. Like, it's just like verbose and goes on because that's like, OK, not for me. Right. Is it, you know, written in layman's terms and it's just like verbose and goes on because that's like okay not for me right is it you know written in layman's terms and it's just really terrible like is it what's the genre right

I feel like if it's a bad thriller okay like whatever if it's bad you know self-help spice yeah if it's bad smut I honestly I don't find anything wrong with this just like you're in an uncomfortable situation because you didn't like the book. So like, how do you move forward? Just lie. Like this is a lie that doesn't hurt anybody. Yeah, you could just be like,

typically I don't like love this genre, but I thought it was so good. I think it's so cool that like you write and that you took the time to write those books. I don't know. It makes me like think more of this guy. The fact that he's like, obviously very like well-read and intellectual.

He to create something, like put something pen to paper that's extremely difficult while also maintaining that this is not your full-time job and having another career and he wanted something and he went out and got it I feel like it shows like perseverance you know and I think qualities there they're good qualities in a partner yeah like for the long call I agree completely you don't want someone who's boring. Like you want someone who's curious. And like has. I don't know. Things to say. And is well read.

And you'll never be bored. Yeah. And knows how to like. Busy himself. Like writing books. Right. And self-publishing. Like it's important to have healthy hobbies like that.

Oh and you never know. Maybe it wasn't for you. Maybe the book goes viral on TikTok. And it becomes the next great writer. Maybe one day your kids. Like make a TikTok video. About my dad wrote this book 14 years ago. And he worked the next great writer. Maybe one day your kids like make a TikTok video about my dad wrote this book 14 years ago and he worked so hard on it.

Please like go read it. And then he becomes a New York Times bestseller. Love. Happy ending. I don't think there's anything wrong. I think you're looking for problems. Maybe like, but I think you and you admitted yourself like you're very picky and you're like looking for a way out or an ick and that's definitely what's going on here.

Yeah. It's definitely like a, this is uncharted territories okay i would say you could classify this as an ick but i don't think one ick should break a relationship no and an ick is like an unreasonable thing in someone that you find icky it's not any ever a legit that's the whole concept of an ick it's like oh my god i get the ick when he like stands up you know so if you get the ick from someone once does that mean that you should break up like what does an ick really mean no I think it culture has gotten out of control like I think it's spiraled a lot now to the point where people are like looking for icks because it's like funny and it's just like you know oh that gave me like when he did that but okay yeah

no it culture has spiraled out of control to the point where like everyone's single because they're getting icked out by like oh my god he breathed i can't like stop zach and i did a podcast episode together a few months ago on patreon um one of the questions was like what is something that the other does that gives you the ick and i actually like the perfect response is like we should still be married but when he does this i get the ick what was it it was using the word binky instead of pacifier. Agreed. Agreed. Jail.

Jail. Jail to the man. That's disgusting. You mean a binky? Like ick? Ick. Oh, and also now he doesn't call it a binky in my presence anymore. Problem equals solved.

Right. All right. Next up. Hey, Jackson Clark. How you doing? I recently unexpectedly got let go from my job. I've always been

so career driven and I feel so out of place and really lost. I now have to be my boyfriend's extended family and I can't help but feeling like a bum and I'm like embarrassed.

I met his parents and brother already and I know that he already told them, which is mortifying. Can you help me navigate how I answer questions about my work

as his extended family will certainly ask? I feel so awkward answering questions and I just want to cancel altogether please help p.s don't ever stop singing okay do not cancel we'll help you navigate like that part of the conversation but I think what you should focus on is just being like an impressive wonderful girly for the rest of the night like you are there are so many ways to impress and just like showcase yourself outside of whatever your job is. Like your job is just your job.

And right now it's, you're in a lull, but that doesn't mean they're going to write you off completely. Like, no. So get your story straight about like what's going on with your job so that you sound like someone who, who wants to work and you're not, I know you're not a bum, even though you feel that way right now, but like charm them you know what I mean like be interesting be knowledgeable be have opinions be up to date on what's going on like that will just be like oh she's in between jobs right now but she's an amazing girl you know and I also

think context around um like the current economic crisis is really important like you weren't just let go like everyone is let go like what was it google laying off 12 of the facebook netflix everyone is being everyone you're first of all you're not alone so that should make you feel better and two like why don't you just go into a rant about how like the current government is just like not working and like you just get political you know like oh can you believe i don't even track i don't even know like what the right word is but like oh people to judge you know like something like this fucking global crisis i don't know whatever like talk about that because like you were you weren't like oh you said you're

career driven you weren't like oh because you're a bad employee you're like oh because nobody can afford to keep people hiring anymore because the economy is so bad so it's like go into that be like oh i wish i knew like the right thing to say oh inflation you know something yeah yeah but also it's like you know what's a really good example of this like I feel like love is blind um when Zach met Bliss's dad it's like because he is a lawyer like that's so impressive and he like made that his whole personality and it was to the point where it wasn't impressive yeah and it's like okay so you have a great job but like the rest of the conversation is trash oh flip it like I'd rather have a great conversation with someone who's like in between jobs right now and just like doing their best yeah but. But the rest of the meeting of the parents is going great.

Right. It's so important to remember like you are so much more than your job. Like and jobs are so fluid and people come and go and fire and quit. You'll get another job. I don't think they'll be overly concerned. Like I think you just got to like take it on the chin, you know, like instead of don't be embarrassed. Don't be embarrassed. Don't be like I feel like sometimes be like, well, I'm working on some project.

Like, don't lie. Yeah. Just be like, I was doing this for this many years at this company. I was like so passionate about it. This is what I want to be doing with my career. They made cuts. So I'm not in that role anymore. But I've applied to here, here, here, and here.

And I'm really optimistic. Yeah. Have like a full answer. So they just move on from the question and then you can talk about literally anything else. And then in everything else, dazzle. Dazzle, razzle, dazzle. Which you should do anyway.

Yeah. Even if you had a great job, like you're not just going to sit on your laurels. You want to dazzle your potential new in-laws. I also feel like when it comes to a job in like hetero relationships with like meeting parents, it's always like, what does the husband do? Because it's like a husband's supposed to provide for their wife or whatever. So maybe you'll just get lucky and his parents are very traditional they're like oh good she doesn't work more time in the kitchen and then you offer like a blueberry pie recipe or something oh yeah yeah bring good food brings like dazzle that's what dazzle sparkle

and shine yeah women of New York Frost yourselves Alright our third And final dear toasters Hey Jackson Turdy Lou I'm a Gen Z toaster Who found you guys Through TikTok clips And I listen

Every single day You are seriously Getting me through college So I'll get straight to it Are you okay? Do you want to take a minute Just to pat yourself? No it's good

I'm so used to this It happens all the time There's this guy I've been hanging out with For a while now I'll go over to his apartment We watch shows we get food etc I also regularly spend the night and he is the one who asked me to stay over so I don't feel like I'm overstepping or anything the thing is this guy has not made a move he wants me around and I can tell you obviously

enjoys spending time with me he seriously is a p-jump he's also super shy it took me a while to even get him to get to see more a more open side of him when we were just hanging out. When we go to sleep he gives me my space and we genuinely just sleep. He only kissed me once and it was when we first met and he was drunk but after that he's just comfortable hanging out and just talking without any intimacy. Don't get me wrong it's not awkward at all. We still have an amazing time but how do I break the cycle of like being in this weird friend zone? Yeah. Thank you guys. It's like he didn't friend zone you, but you are his friend. Yeah.

Like this is a friendship. This literally is a book I just read. And it was because the guy's like so extremely socially awkward to the point of like, like anxiety. And he's like really smart and funny, but like only when you really get to know him. And she's like so excited to get to know him. And every time she does,

she like falls more in love with him. It's actually not a good book, but it applies here. It sounds good. It sounds like he's just really shy just really shy yeah maybe and like he's getting so comfortable with you to the point where like he will be a hundred percent of himself at some point and the more time he spent even if you're like a really shy person like sleeping with someone platonically is like psychotic yeah but it sounds like he's getting comfortable and if you really like him and you're having a good time and he's having a good time this is all really nice I feel like if you want things to progress that you might have to

let him know that you're ready for that like he might need a green light from you I'm not saying you need to like pursue it and be the one who like goes in every single time no but in the beginning for sure in the beginning for sure maybe like I don't know what you guys do when you like order food and watch tv like maybe get a couple drinks up in there yeah nothing like crazy because you don't want to like rely on it you don't want to rely on it and also you don't want to like do something that would be so different from what you normally do but like a spritz or two yeah just get him feeling a little loose yeah it would help you will have to take charge in the beginning but I think there's something really cute about shy guys there's like always like another layer like you're

just constantly learning more about them yeah I think you could like make it like a cute little kiss move and then turn it into a conversation just and then it's like you're really one of the only people like you and like his family who really know him and like he doesn't give like other he gives other versions of himself to other people but you know the real him it's kind of like he's like worth waiting for and like worth being patient for yeah but you're just gonna have to do like a little more leg work than you might have in a different situation but a different situation like when a gardener you such a p-jom oh my god like i'm kind of obsessed with shy guys like now that we're talking about hey shy shy shy shy he's shy it's so cute like i like it good he'll be shy when he

goes out to the clubs yeah no he's not gonna be like out here at strip clubs because he's literally too shy he's so shy i love him please keep us updated yeah just like make little moves make a move you have to be comfortable knowing like in the beginning like you're gonna have to be the one who is a little bit more aggressive but it's fine the balls in your court he obviously likes you he has you to sleep over yeah and just like hang out if you were a friend quote like an actual friend and he only saw you as a friend he would invite you to hang out and stuff but he would not ask you to sleep over yeah like maybe like in the bed like you like grab a hand you're like put your foot up a hand hold yeah that's a cute way to sleep yeah just do something yeah baby steps yeah but i think it's worth pursuing it sounds really promising i'm excited i feel like this is the

start of a beautiful smut rom-com. None of this ever happens in college. I know. I know. It sounds actually, he sounds so like advanced in a sense. Yeah. I'm like obsessed with this guy. Obsessed.

I need a picture. Honestly, please update us. Just like anything that happens. Don't let him go. Don't let him go. No, I'm telling you like he's the one.

Maybe I'm like romanticizing it because I just read this like romantic book, but like I'm, he's the one for you. Like the picture I have in my head is just like so sweet and I don't see anything like nefarious or or like bad no red flags here no no no I'm obsessed that was dear toasters our weekly advice segment so if you ever want to write in it's dear toasters at gmail.com thank you to everyone who spoke with us thank you to everyone who listened to this episode. We love you dearly. Don't forget to hump someone you love today.

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