The Toast - Weenie of the Week: Friday, December 1st, 2023

Episode Date: December 1, 2023

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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the Toast and... Happy Friday, Friday, gotta get down on Friday. Everybody's looking forward to the weekend, weekend. Friday, Friday, getting down on Friday. Hello, letter to Lou. Happy Friday. Happy motherfucking Friday, bitch.

It's exciting. It's been actually, I feel like a very fair week sometimes the week feels very long sometimes the week feels short I feel like this week felt fair I mean it's all subjective you know I feel like a newborn at home so it's it's been a very long week like I'm so if you couldn't tell by my like like little extra oomph I put in the Friday song like I'm overjoyed overjoyed for this day of fry yeah oh my god we had a night oh my god did we have a night like a real newborn night every two hours so we were told that like it's so important for Theo to eat and we've been so like hell-bent on making sure he eats enough I think yesterday we really overfed him oh my god was he shit in his pants every two hours last night? Like my whole house is covered

in poop. Thank God I'm like getting rid of pretty much all my furniture. Like every rug is covered in poop. There's poop on the couch. There's poop on the bed. There's poop everywhere. Yeah. It was a really hard night and I can't even complain because Ben did so much more than me and he's not even complaining but I have my period so like it made it harder and there we go everyone you can mark that off on your calendar and by the way it's like day three or four of my period and I didn't even bring it up yeah you didn't bring it up like day one well sometimes you have a period that like joins you on day one and like makes itself known that's most most of the time. It's like it'll rock your world day one. Day one was kind of quiet for me this month. I feel like periods day one usually solve my problems. Like, oh, I've been feeling bloated and irritable. And it's like, thank heavens the period

has arrived. It's the days before that really get me. No, for me, it's like when I get my period, I'm like, oh, that's why I've been eating so much. That's always what it is. But I'm like always eating, you know? Yeah. But at least once been eating so much. That's always what it is. But I'm like always eating, you know? Yeah. But at least once a month, like I have something to blame it on. Yeah.

So we just had a night and a half and tonight Ben's wonderful mother has agreed to watch Theo for the night. Like I need to sleep. We have not slept like soundly in like 11 days. My eye twitches on fleek. I know everyone who has like actual children is rolling their eyes at me. Please like I'm doing the best that I can. I need a break. Like I'm not okay. So Theo's staying at his grandparents tonight and honestly I will miss him dearly but like my god am I excited. Are you gonna go out? I'm gonna go to dinner like a

nice civilized dinner but I would like to be in bed by 10 o'clock nice yeah nice um few things one okay I started Matthew Perry's book and I just have to say I am in love with it I'm so glad it's amazing. Like, if you're into Friends, obviously there's so many good, like, Friends things. But if you're just, like, into Hollywood, I didn't know, like, before he got cast in Friends, he was, like, really a part of, like, the Hollywood scene and all these people he came up with. And how many amazing things happened to him before Friends. Because we weren't really – Friends was aired in 1994 so this was like really before

our time um and I do have one complaint about the book but you can definitely tell that the book is written by him because I feel like if I sat down and had a conversation with Matthew Perry I would know the exact type of personality I'd be sitting down with he's very all over the place and he'll like start a story and like you're not sure why he said it maybe like three chapters later he'll bring that story back up it's a little all over the place but it's so good yeah I like when celebrities go out of their way and their editors and ghostwriters too like go out of their way to make sure the book sounds like the person like I felt that way about Paris Hilton's book like it very much felt like her voice yeah yeah no it's really good and there's a whole part in there about River Phoenix.

I feel like River Phoenix is like a big Hollywood thing that was also before our time. But Matthew Perry, before he was famous, got like a role in it was like his first big deal role, even though the movie flopped in a movie with River Phoenix. And he was just like such an unhappy young kid, Matthew Perry, like he was an alcoholic from literally the time he was 14. And he was just so unhappy. And he had like not a hard family life, but he came from like a broken family. And this like couple of weeks that he spent in Chicago with River Phoenix were like the best of his life. Like when it was over, he like cried in his hotel room. He didn't want to go home. And a few years later, River Phoenix famously died outside the Viper Room from a drug overdose.

And Matthew Perry lived down the block. And he heard the whole thing. And he didn't know what was going on. He just went to sleep. And when he woke up the next morning, he found out that his friend River Phoenix had died. There's just so many Hollywood moments in there. But I think the most interesting part of the book that I thought of you immediately is he like spends his whole life in therapy.

He's very transparent about like the amount of money he spends and how much money he was making. He spent in total about $7 million on his recovery. And because it was, he's been in, he's been sober slash not sober for 40 years. And he talks a lot about like what he learned in therapy and like why he was driven to drink. But when he was two months old, he was a very, very colicky baby. His parents couldn't fucking take it. Like it was nonstop screaming.

So when he was two months old, they took him to the doctor. And something they did in the 60s was they prescribed him a narcotic. Barbadol. Phenobarbadol. And it was like the only thing that worked. So he would literally, his parents would give it to him he would literally be stoned and finally sleep for like a day and I think he contributes that to his like chemical obsession like inability to stay away from alcohol and narcotics to that

which was something that they did very commonly in the 60s a hundred percent isn't that crazy I would say that that's a fair assessment. And that's what's so crazy. And that's the 60s. It's not even that far off. But things that were like- Common. Common and medically done and recommended were so wrong. There are so many things like that. And it just makes you wonder today-

A hysterectomy. Lobotomy. Lobotomy. Lobotomy. Yeah, no. What are we doing now that in 50 years they're going to be like, I can't believe they did that in the early 2000s. No, in that it was like inhumane and cruel.

I mean, I can think of a few things, honestly. Isn't that such a, I was reading it, my mouth was hanging wide open. That is shocking, but just like add it to the list. They used to put those leeches on you to suck the blood out of your, like all throughout history, like horrible medical ideas that were touted as revolutionary.

And you're crazy if you're against this. So also another thing about the book that I love, it's kind of reminds me when I watch The Crown, like the second I finish an episode of The Crown, I'm Googling 45,000 things. Yeah. There's so many things about, Matthew Perry, he's not like a nepo baby because, no, I guess he is. So his dad like abandoned them in Canada, moved to L.A. He had these dreams of being an actor.

And he ended up being the Old Spice guy, which at the time was like a, kind of how we would think of like the Dos Equis guy. Like everybody knew him. Yeah, or Jake from State Farm. Right, right. But he wasn't like a celebrity, but he was like a working actor who had this gig and he was somewhat recognizable. So it afforded Matthew, when he eventually moved to L. LA, like a little bit of clout. And he went

to like fancy private schools. His mom, I'm highlighting so many things from the book. His mom was in Canada. She became like a, she became kind of famous because she was Pierre Trudeau's press secretary. And she was just this beautiful woman who was kind of like tree pain, you know, always photographed next to Pierre Trudeau. And she became like a little bit of a socialite. And then she got this gig for the national news and she became like kind of famous. And then she ended up marrying another news anchor who ended up being the host of Dateline, who everyone's obsessed with Keith Morrison. And they're still married to this day. But what was the point? Oh, so Matthew Perry weirdly grew up hanging out with Justin Trudeau because they were

like similar ages actually he went through like a really rebellious phase he was a really unhappy kid and starting from the age of 10 he was just like a misery he beat up Justin Trudeau they got into like a fight they threw arms as friends or as foes foe foe so they weren't friends they were just like around each other a lot because the parents that's really funny no it's an amazing book like I'm I think it's a great book club book and then of course I'm up to the part now where he books friends and all of that is so interesting it's like they knew before the script hit the pilot scene and there's like a star of every pilot scene it's like the show that's going to be big I don't know if that happens so much anymore

but like this was real I think it does but this But this was real. Like you got a time slot. Like it was all very like old school TV guide energy. And they just knew everyone in town was gunning for this role. And his best friend, he was best friends with this crew, Hank Azaria, who's that guy who does the Simpsons voice. And this other guy,

Craig, Craig got Chandler. Matthew Perry wanted it so bad, but he was locked into this dumb role for a sitcom that was going nowhere. It was about baggage claim handlers in the year 2100. He was like, I was so desperate. It was so stupid. And he couldn't audition for anything else. And he was so mad. He was like, Chandler is me. I know what I know. His best friend gets the role. But his best friend gets the role and also gets offered something else, another role in another sitcom. So he sits down with Hank Azaria and he's like, Chandler is me. I know it. I know it. His best friend gets the role. But his best friend gets the role and also gets offered something else. Another role in another sitcom.

So he sits down with Hank Azaria and he's like, guys, what should I do? I got both these roles. Should I take Friends or should I take this other one? And they said, you got to take Friends. Like, they were really honest with him. The guy takes the other role. Hayley Matthew Perry didn't speak for two years. So then how did Matthew get out of his thing?

It flopped. And one of the showrunners was married to one of the showrunners from Friends and was like hey is your shit show going anywhere? We want Matthew Perry to read for Chandler and they were like yeah you can have him. They just happened to be married. Got it. No it's so good. Lisa Kudrow wrote the foreword and it's very quick. I started last night. I'm further into it than I was Iron Flame. Got it. You should read it. I finished Iron Flame. I, maybe I will read it. I have so many things on my want to read list now. Like obviously I have to read Britney's book, but then I just, I think I'm going to go in a more nonfiction direction. I'm just not in a fiction state of mind right now. No,

uh, wait, so you're in a celebrity memoir is what you're looking for. Yeah. I want truth. Yeah. Yeah. It's so good. I really highly recommend. Okay. Just don't be like put off by his writing style. It's very erratic, but there's good shit in there. Now, another thing that happened to me today that I wanted to talk about that I'm so upset about is that the Golden Bachelor was spoiled for me. Wow. I mean, I know that Gary is, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, engaged. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw that. That's how the show works. I don't know who the woman is. I do. And I don't even engage with any sort of Bachelor or Golden Bachelor things on TikTok. And this morning they served me two back-to-back videos of the winner and him talking about their wedding planning. So the first time I just tried to, the first time I tried to ignore it and put her name out of my mind. The second time I saw it, her name is solidified in my mind. I'm so sorry. Do not.

I will not. I'm so upset. Maybe you'll forget. You do have a bad memory. Yeah. But like now that I've seen it twice and now I'm talking about it, like, and you're thinking about it. Yeah. It's with me for good. Understood. So we've got a great show today so many stories that actually um came across my desk in the last 24 hours that I sent to you did you include all three of course I did so I'm excited about that I feel like it's kind of a juicy day for a Friday it is kind of a juicy Friday with a juicy placenta. Yikes. You look beautiful. I got some new things for our family trip.

And I couldn't wait to wear them. That's how I felt. That's the thing about, and I've just experienced something similar. Because one of our sponsors and a brand that I've just now become obsessed with and I really hadn't shopped at before is Loft. And they just sent me a huge box. And I'm like, oh oh this is all perfect for our trip I put it in the other room because I literally will just I'm so oh oh that's what I'm wearing today was for my first box from Loft and I'm like oh this is perfect for our trip I've worn it

five times yeah I put the new box of stuff in another room I when you get stuff for a trip like how do you not wear before unless it Unless it's, like, beach clothes. But I just want to say, like, we are on camera every day. Like, why not wear our nice new things? And if I wear it again in four weeks, like, it'll be okay. It'll be okay. But there's something exciting about having something new and wearing it for the first time on your trip.

But it's also something exciting about having a nice new outfit for your big show. Where's your vest from? It's from Revolve. So cute. And my top is Revolve. My pants are Lululemon and my shoes are UGG. My shoes are UGG and my whole fit is Loft. I love it. I need to shop more Loft stuff because now I need more new stuff. No guys everyone's sleeping on Loft. I know we've been trying to tell them. Well honestly I feel them. I think with brand association. You were asleep too. We all think like Ann Taylor Loft is where we used to get

like our pants for our internships. Like you don't think of it as like comfy, cozy, cute. They had like a whole rebrand, I think. And it's really cute stuff. I got like scarves, gloves, matching sets, really cute stuff. Oh, exciting. Yeah, I need to do a bit more shopping. But I also like have plenty of loungewear.

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Thank you, Rakuten. Thank you, Turdy. You're welcome. Our first story, Taylor Swift's publicist, Tree Payne, slams gossiper Dumois over the insane Joe Alwyn marriage ceremony claim. So here's what happened. Dumois got a blind item about tailored, very long about Joe and nonsense, the song glitch, their relationship timeline, whatever. Then Dumois posted that with the caption on top of it saying, she did have a ceremony in either 2020 or 2021 in the UK

and it was described to me as a marriage by more than one person. It was never made legal. I will die on this hill. Put it on my tombstone. I have no reason to lie. I could give a shit what she does. I'm sorry she didn't tell you guys about it in a song,

but just because she doesn't sing about something doesn't mean it didn't happen. So then Tree Payne, who's Taylorlor swift's publicist the one and only you guys probably recognize her she's like that very tall beautiful redhead who's always with taylor she's like a really most publicists aren't like front-facing but taylor everyone knows her publicist she's popular within the swifty community like she's a and she's like only taylor's publicist she's not like someone who's just the publicist to the stars like she's in miss americana too she's like only Taylor's publicist. She's not like someone who's just the publicist to the stars. She's in Miss Americana too. She's Taylor's mouthpiece.

If she's saying something like she is speaking, she's the voice of Taylor. She's like a full-time employee just for Taylor. So this is Taylor speaking through Tree saying, she screenshotted this saying, enough is enough with these fabricated lies about Taylor from Dumois. There was never a marriage or ceremony of any kind. This is an insane thing to post. It's time for you to be held accountable for the pain and trauma you cause with posts like these. So I was shocked absolutely guffawed to be reading this for a multitude of reasons. One Taylor Trey never responds to anything. People say the crazy,

like her thing is that she never responds. And it's a good strategy because nothing, you give life to it. I wouldn't have seen that Dumas post if not for Tree's response. So I found it even more shocking because I feel like maybe at one point people were reading every word Dumas said

and probably during COVID, like when everyone was really bored, they were really taking everything Dumas said as gospel. But then over the years, so many things came out to be not true. So now it's just like a fun thing that people enjoy. It's like tabloidy, but I don't think, and I would love for people to sound off in the comments. Like when you read something on Dumas, like what do you think about it? Because for me, at least I'm like, it's so 50-50. I don't really, I really don't give it much credence. So to find that Taylor Swift, the biggest star, the Beatles of our generation, would be bothered by and respond and give air to

something posted on DuMois, I find so shocking because from my point of view something being posted on Dumois is kind of meaningless these days am I wrong I I know it's less it holds less weight than it once did because a lot of things have come out to be not true and also just people have are not as highly engaged with that sort of content as they once were but she Dumois like sometimes will post something and is like this is what people are saying take it or leave it that's what she does most of the time it's like yeah she literally says like not verified right rumors but here she's throwing her whole weight but I will die on this hill put it on my tombstone still I don't think it was it required a response from tree because I think that like tree and tiller are they're just they're huge like but she's never really goes that hard for a rumor.

Yeah. But also like, does her going hard for a rumor move the needle in terms of public perception? I feel like no. I feel like when I think about blinds, like I think about NT and I feel like I got to that place. I used to like read them every day and be like, oh my gosh. And then I got to a place where it was like, I'll keep this in the back of my mind about someone, but it's not going to color everything that I think about them but if

he like said I will die on this he'll put this on my tombstone like this is where I'm gonna stake my claim like this is what I know for sure if I was like you know of oh these shirt has holes oh I love thumb holes Norma Kamali queen um if I was a even a fan or a passive fan I'd be like oh okay so that's true so let's backtrack a little bit so I think and I just also want to say Jumoa has responded yes yes yes we'll get to that in a minute we'll get to that but let's talk about this so a little bit of context for someone who might not be like as chronically online as me is that Taylor like a few days ago released a song that had been like an exclusive, what's it called? Like a deluxe bonus song if you bought her CD.

Now there's ripped off versions all over TikTok. If you're a Swifty like you know it and you might not have ever actually streamed it. But this week she actually put it on Spotify to say thank you for making me the number one girly. And the song is called You're Losing Me. And it's very clearly about Joe Alwyn. I wouldn't marry me either. A pathological people pleaser who only wanted you to see her. It's very much like a breakup song, whatever.

So nothing about that was particularly shocking, except then a day later after the song was released in order to promote the song, Jack Antonoff posted a picture of Taylor. And I think it was from the day they wrote the song. And he shared that the song was written in 2021. So that like made this swifty spiral to be like, wait, Taylor's been unhappy in this relationship since 2021. Have they been broken up that long? So Dumois posting this was on the heels of everyone being like, wait, have these two really actually not even been together since 2021? And then she said,

these two were actually married. I know it in my bones, whatever, whatever. So now the question is. Well, she said they had a marriage ceremony, but it was never made legal. The question is, what about this? Dumois posting bothered Taylor so much. You want to know what I think it could be? What? I think that maybe

if she technically had a ceremony where she was married to Joe and she never told that to Travis. And now Travis might be thinking, do you have an ex-husband? Were you married to Joe? Claudia, yes. And so she needs to put like adamantly state

like I was never married before because like not that it would make Travis like think of her any differently but that's something that you would disclose to a new partner so it's like wait did she not tell me that she was married so that's the kind of a crazy hypothesis the one that I'm choosing to believe that I do credit to Liz Woods she put this on her story and it made a lot of sense is that Taylor and Travis like are getting really serious and like the idea that they could I'm choosing to believe that I do credit to Liz Woods. She put this on her story and it made a lot of sense. Is that Taylor and Travis like are getting really serious. And like the idea that they could be married or engaged sometime soon isn't out of the realm of possibility. And so Jack Antonoff posting that like this song about the breakup was actually written

in 2021 puts a lot more room between her two relationships, making it easier for people to digest. Okay. Not that anyone had people to digest okay not that anyone had a something to digest the relationship seemed far enough apart for me but piggybacking off of that what I thought you were going to say is that she's taking this relationship very seriously she wants to perhaps marry him and she wants the world to know like that this would be her first and only marriage like if if now we know she had this little marriage with Joe like oh so this is a second

marriage like it's different as opposed to like, I'm finally choosing to wed this man. Not any man. The more you say it, it's not crazy. But also totally separately, there's a new Hulu documentary about Trailer and Travis with, like, sports experts and pop culture experts. And we are on it. We are? They reached out to us about, like, sitting down. With like sports experts and pop culture experts. And we are on it. We are?

They reached out to us about like sitting down. They wanted us to be like experts on the doc. I didn't want to do it. But they still included us. Just like clips from our podcast. Because they were like. Obsessed. Talking about how the whole world is obsessed with this. And they say even the Toast podcast was talking about it.

And they had a little clip of us. Oh my god. Thank you. That's the perfect amount of involvement for me. One of the editors is a toaster oh my god I'm obsessed because they always do whenever there's like a documentary about pop culture they always do like a roundup of it in the news and it's like yeah we should be in there yeah no it was very sweet oh my god I'm gonna watch it yeah um it's not like the 25 minute mark I watched the whole thing okay well you would have maybe watched it anyway because like that's your yeah you like the beat was there any new information about trailer that you didn't

know no no it was very basic it's for like an older person who is like what's going on with this Taylor Swift got it okay so that is what happened between Tree and Dew last night then Dew responded but then Dew responded by the way when I saw that Tree like woke up and decided to drag Dew by her hair, like I was quaking for Dew. Okay, so that's what I was just about to say. Like, do you think Dew Dadu is shitting her fucking pants? Because what I think maybe some people do realize and some don't, like Dew is just one gal.

It's not like a whole media company. It's just one girly who does all this work. She's very nice. Like, I would die right so I would have thought that dude dadu moi was shitting herself like oh my god she's gonna like crawl into a hole for a little bit let this blow over but then she responded and her response she had some big brass balls because she's doubling down and I have more respect for that and I actually think that's a better strategy

than her kind of like cowering into herself. Well, if she does cower and just be like, oh, I'm sorry, no one will believe anything she ever says. Right, but it's much easier to do that than it is to stand your ground, especially because like pain and trauma. Oh, okay, I'm sorry. But it is easy to stand your ground anonymously.

But she's not, insiders know who she is. Like knows who she is yes yes yes um also she's like come out there's art like she has has she like there was an article I think that she contributed there's like an article about do and who do is and I feel like she vulture did a piece like we figured it out. Oh, it was a figured it out. Not like a sit down. Not Deuce coming out. No, it wasn't a doodadoo out debutante ball. OK, well, this is what Deuce said in response. She said, well, I make zero dollars from lying.

Can publicists say the same? Also, to relate something that is in reference to something that happened years ago to quote pain and trauma after what just happened seems like a poor choice of words either way i apologize to taylor after what just happened what happened so the deadline article i'm reading thinks that it's about the fan in rio i of course you know think it's about october 7th yeah that's what i was thinking too i'm like that's just where my yeah pain and trauma like right. Right, right. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. But I do think it's about the fan. After what just, probably the fan.

No, that response is like a knife. I don't think this was wise. It was, it's so out of character. Not wise for Tree? Yeah. It's so out of character to respond to anything. But I don't know. Does Jumwa still have that sort of chokehold on the culture?

Please sound off in the comments. Because for me personally, it doesn't penetrate anymore. There was a time though that it did. I don't think it was like Dumas posted this and everybody was like, oh my God, Taylor's been married. Because apparently Dumas has been saying this for a while. Yes, she has. I think that maybe, you know, Kylie Kelsey is a big DuMois fan

and she saw this and she's like, Travis, do you know that Taylor has been married? And then everything got blown up. I don't think Kylie Kelsey

or really anyone in the Kelsey clan is reading tabloid. Like, I honestly, I think if anybody is reading DuMois, Kylie Kelsey

would be the last person. Yeah. Maybe Mama Kelsey loves DuMois. Like there's, she's on her cruise. There's no way Maybe Mama Kelsey loves Dumois. Like there's. She's on her cruise. There's no way. Mama Kelsey's tapping

through her IG stories. By the way, so there's a celebrity cruise going on right now that like a lot of celebs are on. Mama Kelsey. Oh my God.

The Cole pose. That's the one that Ben was supposed to be on? That's the one that Ben was supposed to leave for a few days ago, but he stayed home with Theo and canceled

his trip. I told him to go. I'm actually so glad he didn't. I could not be doing this by myself. But Ben was supposed to be there. I'm literally I'm literally Madison Beer right now. You know, I was supposed to be in the video. I am glad that Ben is with you and with you, Dadu, the first.

But he should be on a cruise with Mama Kelsey. Like, that's what the world needs. No, Donna and Euphigenia, like, a lethal combination. That's upsetting. I know. But there's no worthier cause to stay home for. Like, I don't have, there was nothing else to be done. But, like, it sucks for Celebrity Cruises because it's a celebrity cruise line.

And they could have gotten Ben's offer celebrity and that just sucks for them. Yeah. But they do have Mama Kelsey and she was listening to Taylor Swift in the background of her story. Yeah. She's so cute. Oh, she was tapping through Dumois. By the way. So Taylor and Andrea were supposed to be with Donna and the Kelsey's in Kansas City for

that game. But then the shows in Rio got postponed so her schedule got fucked up I do feel like the I don't think the families have met yet and I do think they'll probably spend the holidays together in Kansas City somewhere they're saying she's like staying in Kansas City for a while I don't know if Holiday House is gonna it's gonna happen yeah she's in Kansas City even though she did leave to go to London last night to go to Beyonce's premiere for Renaissance movie and Beyonce had a premiere in the states and Taylor wasn't there because she had a show but I was like damn Beyonce showed up for you and you're not showing up for Beyonce I was like damn that's kind of crazy no she made it

work she got her ass on a plane I'm sure she's back in Kansas City already she just like flew in for this event um so she is like home base is Kansas City. And Travis, like a few hours after Taylor landed in Kansas City, Travis was seen at Trader Joe's in the local like Kansas City town. And he was buying ice cream for Taylor. And like people were freaking. How do you know it's for Taylor? I just feel like Travis is an athlete.

He probably doesn't eat ice cream. No, I feel like he's like eats a million calories a day. But what's more classic? It's like, babe, I'm hungry. Can you go get eat ice cream. No, I feel like he's like eats a million calories a day. But what's more classic? It's like, babe, I'm hungry. Can you go get me ice cream? Like it's for Taylor. I think it's for both of them. Oh, OK.

But I think we all like ice cream. I think they both do probably like ice cream. Sharing a spoon. So cute. One spoon. What flavor? Did anyone get the flavor? No, apparently like people in Kansas City were so respectful.

Like nobody saw that. Like there were videos of him walking around the store totally normally not one person went up to him he was lovely everyone was well behaved so I'm sure that's why he loves his town so much they really respect him even at this level like they're leaving him alone yeah that's hysterical okay so that is what went down between Tree Taylor and Doodoo Mwah and I just want to go on the record saying like this was an uncharacteristic move of Tree and Taylor. And I actually don't think it was the right move. And one more question. Do you think they had a ceremony?

No. I do not think they would have responded so publicly, which they never do, if there was even a glimmer of truth to it. Because that's an insane thing to do. I think it's one of those things where a ceremony can be interpreted into a lot of different things. And in Dumois, they're talking about the same event.

And in Tree's mind, this was not a marriage of any kind. And in Dew's mind, it's like, of any kind and in dew's mind it's like oh this was a ceremony in the elk of a wedding elk yeah wedding elk yeah it's possible oh I have to add that to the list of words that we're never going to use properly again or say properly because it's like ilk no no but it's ilk but I'm saying the wrong word. Like elk is an animal. Oh yeah, so you're saying it wrong, but you're using it right. I guess both, yeah. Okay, just gonna add that. Great.

Well, you know what? We can't be held back by like social constructs and words and their meanings because we are the elk of dreamers, you know? We are. Also language is ever evolving. And why can't we put our spin on it? It's so true.

Language is, for me at least, it's interpretive. You know what it's giving? The Tower of Babel. The Tower of Babel. It always comes back to the Tower of Babel. So true. The Tower of Babel is my Roman Empire. Really one of them that I'm constantly cross-referencing in my head. Tower of babel is my roman empire like really one of them that i'm constantly like

cross referencing in my head like tower of babel yeah what a lesson what a lesson what a lesson you want to know what the tower the moral of the story of tower of babel is shut the fuck up no it's about girl bossing too close to the sun literally it's beautiful are you ready for our next story yeah Kelly Clarkson's ex Brandon Blackstock must pay her over 2.6 million dollars for unlawfully procured business deals obsessed okay if there was like we used to do this in our family like weenie of the week oh my god have we ever told the toasters about weenie of the week it was one of the most hurtful things like ever because we would do just like the toasters about weenie of the week? It was one of the most hurtful things like ever because we would do just like the sisters

and we wouldn't do it every week. No, but whenever someone would remember, we would do weenie of the week and we would like... We'd all nominate one other person. We couldn't nominate ourselves, obviously. No, a sister, not a person in the world. Oh yeah. It was between the four of us

and we had to nominate one of the sisters as the weenie of the week and cite what they did that was weenie-ish. And the way like you and Olivia only ever chose me and Margo, you and Olivia never won weenie of the week. We formed an alliance. It was always me or Margo. And it was just like, it was stupid because it wasn't fair. No, I mean, it doesn't seem like the most fair and generous of spirit sort of game. No, I hated weenie of the week. It was always me.

Well, I just want to say like Brandon Blackstock is the weenie of the year. I forgot why we were talking about weenie of the week. Brandon Blackstock is the weenie of the week every week. Like, oh my God. He just takes L after L after L and it's all because of his actions. So it's like, it's justice. No, it's actually really beautiful to be watching someone face the consequences of their actions over and over again.

Like this is a bad person, you know, who stole and manipulated the woman he loved, the mother of his children. Like how rotten can you be? And it's like, of course, mother of children, woman you love, like you should never betray her. But also like it's Kelly Clarkson, America's sweetheart, like pure goodness. No, and I know that the judge presiding over this case,

like he was calling and voting for Kelly Clarkson. Like that's how deep the Kelly Stanhood runs. But it's actually so true like because when American Idol was on like even if you watch it religiously or you just like were a living person you knew you had you were impacted by Kelly Clarkson so it's actually I don't think the judge was calling for Justin Garland no was anyone I think that when Kelly cried during piece by piece the judge cried during piece by piece. The judge cried during piece by piece. 1,000%. And now we're seeing the judge.

I just think it's going to be impossible for Brandon Blackstone to get a fair trial on this country because of Kelly's impact. Well, you should think about who you're harming then. It's true. You should also just think about harming in general. Harming in general. It's a good lesson. I love this.

Here's a story. Brandon Blackstock helped orchestrate several business deals for his ex-wife Kelly Clarkson while serving as her manager. general harming in general it's a good lesson i love this here's the story brandon blackstock helped orchestrate several business deals for his ex-wife kelly clarkson while serving as her manager but he wasn't supposed to a california labor commissioner has ruled earlier this month clarkson scored a victory in her latest legal battle against blackstock according to documents obtained by people he's been ordered to pay her it's 2.6 million dollars for overstepping in his managerial role and unlawfully procuring deals that should have been handled by a talent agent. His legal team has filed to appeal the ruling. I hate this man with every fiber of my being. And I just feel like in the last year or two, Kelly's had a couple of

really big legal wins because she didn't do anything wrong and the law is on her side. And the judicial system is slow, but the wheels of justice are turning in Kelly's favor so this is just another one you know she won that child support thing she won the prenup he tried to have the prenup void like he's just been a dick at every turn and he took her house yeah the ranch and he was ordered to give it back to see him losing brings me great joy yeah the wheels of justice turn slowly. And of course, you know, not to bring gender into it, but to see a man, like a greedy little fuck, try and leech off a successful woman

who's, you know, a mother, an entrepreneur, a touring singer, a daytime host. To see an unemployed slob try and bleed her out you know suck her dry it makes me sick the men should be ashamed it's it's terrible yeah no especially I feel like there are a lot of men who like when they're married to a woman they try and like you know manage and take advantage and make themselves and ride the coattails and in to some degree that's like you know that's their job and that's lawful and they're just you know why should someone else have this job if I can do it right the fact that he was also being like a crook a crook about it

yeah like why don't you just like ride her coattails lawfully you know why don't you just like be normal and be like a stay-at-home? Like I'm sure Kelly would have been happy to make the fortune and you just not do anything. But he's also, he's a music manager, like have other clients. Don't shit where you eat. By the way, he did have other clients. That's what's so greedy about this. He was Blake Shelton's manager. And when Kelly and him decided to get divorced, Blake Shelton took, you know, Kelly's side and dropped him as his manager. But up until until that point like he had a career of his own so why you gotta go and steal too why you gotta be so mean no I hope he like I want him to lose every penny to his name like you're gonna be a criminal cool Kelly's coming for you yeah Kelly's coming for you are you ready for our next story what number is this three yes it's some

Disney tea from back in the day I don't know if you've seen it but we always love Disney tea from back in the day so Kim Rhodes okay I know I actually right before we started watching this I was watching a clip of her on Christy Carlson Romano's podcast exactly Kim Rhodes who played the mom on Suite Life and zach and cody she played the the singing mom who's the mother to the twins the cabaret she was kind of like cabaret with the countess before it was she was kind of like a crazy queen no i was obsessed with her of course you were because she was living her dream singing yeah she eventually sings on a cruise ship like it takes her everywhere she's singing at a luxury hotel no and she like her passion afforded her

children like amazing opportunities. She was an incredible mom. She was a single mom who works two jobs, who loves her kids and never stops. A gentle hand and the heart of a fighter. She's literally a survivor. Yeah, so she choked up as she recalled an incident on Christy Carlson Romano's Vulnerable podcast

where she claimed that an executive allegedly body shamed Dylan Sprouse in front of the show's cast and crew. She said the executive had screamed at craft services that there should be no more junk food until Dylan looked like his twin brother, Cole, who also starred on the Disney Channel sitcom. She defended the then teenager at the time and fucking lit into the network, Bigwig,

whom she refused to name. I was like, you do not have the right to say that to a child. You do not have the right to be writing for children. If that is your attitude, never again, do you speak like that? Never. She also recalled a time where the boys were, uh, I think it was Dylan. He was instructed to make a fat joke about her on the show and he wouldn't say it. He just kept skipping over it. She told listeners, she said it was like in the middle of a chunk of dialogue. So he kept skipping this laugh line.

Finally, we get in front of the studio audience and he skips it. And the executive producer screams, cut Dylan, say the line. And he goes, I would never disrespect any woman that way. Let alone this woman.

You write something funny and I'll say it. Oh, okay. Slay with the nine-year-old. Yes. That's like kind of one of those quotes that it's like, I don't know that a nine-year-old said, or he was probably 13, like I will never disrespect any woman that way,

let alone this woman. But I do believe that like he- He said some iteration of that. And a child's version of it. And that he refused to say the joke and refused to disrespect her. But there was a lot of mutual standing up for one another yeah that story about craft services when I saw the clip like that was wild because I do remember a time of course where the twins looked different

but they were you know pubescent kids like that's that's what happens and honestly I think for a lot of people it was how they started telling Dylan and Cole apart and I think it actually in the end contributed to a lot of their individuality. Like for real. Yeah. I do. Cause I think as a twin, they were so similar looking like the hair, the clothes,

everything. So I think it established them as like two different people at first. And I don't think it was a bad thing. And to know, I feel like, so there's like this conversation being had now on social media, especially on TikTok, where there's a couple former Disney stars who are grown now, whose entire brand is what basically Christy Carlson Romano is doing, having a podcast, inviting others on and talking about their show. school survival guide have their own show that's like you know being talked about on elise vander pole who is chelsea from that's a raven has her own christy carlson romano of course the wizards of waverly place um and people on tiktok are like dragging them because like it's annoying and it's

all they talk about and all their tiktoks everything is just about this one job that they had um but i don't feel that way about this particular conversation because I watched a lot of this podcast and Kim Rhodes talks also about how like, she's very famous. People recognize her. She doesn't have a career. She says she's, you know, virtually unbookable.

She doesn't have health insurance. I actually did think it was an interesting conversation. And Kim Rhodes seems like a really, really nice lady. Yeah. No, that sort of conversation doesn't bother me. I feel like it's the opposite that bothers us when people are known from their one show and they don't talk about it

and they're like, think they're better than that. But see, as like a child star, there's really no way to win because if you don't talk about it, we are like, oh my God, it's annoying. Talk about the thing. And if you talk about it, they're like, oh my God, will you ever stop talking about it?

Like, how really, how are you supposed to exist post post that well that's like anything you'll never make people happy so just talk about it to the degree in which you're comfortable yeah I feel like someone who does a good job of that is Josh Peck yeah because he obviously has this thing Drake and Josh that's so huge but he really did a good job of like he talks about it if you ask him about it, but he doesn't make it his personality. And he'll engage with like the funny hug me brother type of things. But he also has a life and a family that he talks about and fatherhood. And he was in the vlog squad temporarily.

Like he has other things that people, I feel like when I just said Josh Peck, your immediate thought wasn't Drake and Josh, right? No, it's good guys. It's good guys, right. And Oppenheimer. Yeah. So I think he's kind of a perfect example of how to toe the line, but I imagine it's very difficult.

Yeah. You know who I feel like actually does a pretty good job considering it's hard? Who? Hilary Duff. Yes, but Hilary Duff is different because she went on to be in things that were just as big as Lizzie McGuire. Yeah, that's true. So it's a difficult spot to be in things that were just as big as Lizzie McGuire. Yeah, that's true. So it's a difficult spot to be in.

Yeah. Well, okay, TikTokers, if you don't like it, don't listen to it. Yeah. And I thought that Christy Carlson Romano actually did a really good job with this interview because Kim Rhodes was like dropping truth bombs after truth bombs.

And I thought that story about craft services was just wild. And it's so something I could see happening. Oh, of course. The people who run those kid shows are disgusting. Disgusting. It's like, this is just, I feel like a tip of the iceberg. I mean, and the way that they make kids feel, the way that they talk to kids, like that's, you know, doesn't even go below the surface of some of the stuff that happens. Right. But I always felt like those types of stories were really reserved for the other networks, like especially Nickelodeon. I think Nickelodeon, and if you read Jeanette McCurdy's book,

there's so much in there about Nickelodeon. I don't really know of a lot of traumatizing moments or stories that I can think of from Disney. I think Disney was very like exploitative. You know, you think of like Miley and Selena and Demi, like they're all like traumatized from Disney. I think Disney was very like exploitative. I, you know, you think of like Miley and Selena and Demi, like they're all like traumatized from Disney, not necessarily in the way that some of the Nickelodeon kids might've been traumatized. And I think we're all talking about like Dan Schneider.

Yeah. Um, and the allegations against him. So I don't, I hadn't heard anything about that, like at Disney, but I think it was, you know,

as far as kids go, like a toxic work environment. Yeah. And they're not, they were working too much. They're not treating kids with kid gloves. Yeah. Not as kids yeah like they couldn't get you know they have to do their schooling and they have to do their show and they're the the centerpiece of the show there's so much pressure on them and their kids going through puberty and their emotions are

heightened and like no one's there caring for them they're just like get back to work yeah yeah yeah no it's very like a sweatshop like 24 7 so I don't think they like look back on it fondly but I think maybe an adult like Kim Rhodes in certain like when you're an adult and you're on this like great show and you have a lead role but it's not all on you like it's more of a palatable work environment except for when they're like fat shaming everyone right right right she just seemed like a really like she had a great head on her shoulders in the interview. She like looks really similar. She just has a big arm tattoo. She seemed like a sweet lady.

She reminded me a lot of her character. Like a very maternal energy, very calm, peaceful. I really like her. We need a Suite Life of Zack and Cody reboot. Do we? Yeah, with her and the boys. Everyone. I want everyone.

Mr. Mosby, London. In terms of that show, there's actually a lot of actors from that show who went on to have, usually it's just like the star, but we have Dylan and Cole, Brenda Song, Ashley Tisdale.

There's quite a few people who made it out. Even Mr. Mosby. Does he act in other stuff? Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure he was convicted of manslaughter in like 2014 or something. What? Yeah. Phil Lewis is his name, right?

Yeah, yeah. Okay, never mind. Am I right about manslaughter? Why did Phil Lewis get arrested? He was involved in a horrendous tragedy. Oh, okay. Never mind. Yeah.

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I'm sorry if people believe the Raquel rumor no no I don't think people do but people are still waiting we need to all like use critical thinking sometimes like the way rumors just get spread so fast like people are being stupid yeah you're being dumb use your brain he obviously didn't hook up with Raquel quote we were dating for three years and I guess you get to a point where you think maybe there's a difference in what somebody wants and what the other person wants and without going into too much detail I just didn't think I could give Silvana kind of what she deserves she's so beautiful she's funny she's smart she's all these things he admitted that it was probably a me issue and he doesn't think that he is the guy she is looking for and is going to be able to provide her with what she needs down the road

he said he felt like he was quote stealing sylvanas youth but didn't elaborate on whether or not had to do with the brunette beauty wanting to settle down that's that's probably what it was it's getting like of course got to sick shep and taylor like i don't want to be married i don't want to have kids and like a young girl is like okay with that up until a certain point no and a young girl every girl thinks like yeah he says that but i'm different yeah and like we have a great relationship for three years even the way he's talking about her on the podcast she was his best friend he misses her so much he's very concerned and like wants good things for her it literally is exactly Shep and Taylor if you watch Southern Charm like they were such a great

couple Shep was so happy Taylor loved him so much and like was waiting for him to get it but there are men who just yeah never will settle down You can be the perfect person inside and out and do everything and like be there, ready, willing, and able. And they just don't want that. I don't understand it, but that's just them. No, same. So like, I wasn't particularly surprised by this breakup.

I think there's really only so long you can be in a relationship that doesn't progress before things get troublesome. And that's exactly what happened here. As a young woman, when you have desires for what you want your life to look like. I mean, if you're a young girl who never wants to get married and never wants to have kids, you should call Dave Portnoy.

It's so true. But I think even sometimes young girls go into a relationship like that. Oh, I don't care about marriage and kids. But then you grow up within the relationship and those things start to matter for you and then the relationship can't work but I just like can't understand I feel this way when I'm watching Southern Charm I felt this way about Scott Disick with Sophia Richie like and he's always dating young girls because a girl at 21 yes she doesn't want to get married right but when she's 25 she's like hey what about that

marriage yeah I don't understand these men who are so, so against like marriage and kids. No, and the thing is, same. Because if you're going to be in a three-year monogamous relationship, like that's marriage. Getting married changes nothing from being in a committed relationship, making the jump to marriage. Quite literally, your life doesn't change at all. I understand people being very hesitant to have kids.

Like that's your whole life being flipped on a dime. But the fear of commitment while being in a committed relationship makes no sense to me. Yeah. Yeah. People are very like freaked out about marriage. You're living with someone. You're monogamous. You do everything together.

You hang out with her family. She hangs out with your family. How is that different than just being married? I think the kids is a big piece of it. I think like for everyone, it's like, okay, well, we're forgetting married, then we're having kids. Therefore, we cannot get married. I feel like the men feel that way.

And also the women feel that way. Like I don't want to necessarily be married to someone that I can't have kids with if I want to have kids. Yes. No, no, no. For sure. So that answers that. And it makes sense. I just like, why? Why? No, but also Dave Portnoy a lot of people forget was married right a million

years ago no no that would be crazy yeah I don't know what happens to men like this like Shep yeah and I mean Scott obviously has kids but does it ever change like no I mean do they become like that guy in their 60s yeah who's like finally ready George Clooney yeah he dragged that Stacey Keebler around town for years I don't know he felt a little different he was always kind of dating like age-appropriate women like yes yes but they never ever ever got serious past like just being in a committed relationship. Never engaged, never married, never kids. Yeah. Then I don't know if it's the woman like was Amal different.

But, you know, he dated beautiful, successful, smart women his whole life. Yeah. They were all wonderful wives, could be wonderful wives and mothers. And they all went on to be wonderful wives and mothers. Yeah. It's not about the woman. It's like that thing from um sex in the city it's really the perfect um metaphor it's every man is a cab yeah and if

you hail one when his light is on it's just timing it's not you yeah it's timing but I don't know how like people like this change or when or why they would maybe they get older and they start to like have an existential crisis and they're like, let me try something different. But whenever I, like, I, to me, like, Shep and Dave are the same person. And I just, like, don't see them ever changing. No, yeah.

Shep is also just very stubborn. Yeah. I don't know, Dave, but I. In this situation, like, if you were watching Southern Charm right now, like, Taylor and Shep were the perfect couple. Like, she made him so happy. He literally, like if you were watching Southern Charm right now, like Taylor and Shep were the perfect couple. Like she made him so happy. He literally like cried, like they shared a dog and Shep,

it's Shep's dog, little Craig. And like when Shep sees Taylor with the dog who she had to leave when they broke up, like he cries over like missing Taylor and their dog and their little family. And it's like, why not marry the girl? You love her so much. You love her so much. Even like when Paige was, she went down to South Carolina. She was like, Shep loves her so much you love her so much even like when Paige was she went down to South Carolina she was like Shep loves Taylor so much like what if you just stayed with her and got

married I can't with people who refuse to be happy like no and also what's crazy is like Shep's parents are still together so like what he grew up in a loving home like what's the problem right like back to Matthew Perry's book he's never been able to have any sort of happiness when it comes to relationships. He was abandoned as a child that carried him through his entire life. Every year for his birthday, he would wish for his parents to get back together. His parents fucking hated each other. Like hate.

They maybe have been in the same room three times in the last 15 years. Like hated it. And that is so prevalent. His mother really never gave him attention. She worked so hard. a single mom all he ever wanted was attention he has a fear of abandonment like he just used to leave good relationships before that person left him like there's a psychological reason like he when he spells it out burned he has you know past pain he doesn't believe in mommy issues he can't he's never seen it if you can't see it you can't achieve it yeah I believe Dave Portnoy's parents are also still married.

Right, so like what is this? I don't know. But like girls, you can't change them. Yeah, if you're in one of these situations, like thinking you're going to be different, like I love you, I'm sure you're an amazing person, but you're not different. It's not about you.

It's just about something. And sometimes it never, the flip never, the switch never flips for a man. Sometimes it it does it has nothing to do with the girl but sometimes they don't do not be wasting your time in relationships like this like for real it will you will drive yourself mad and you'll think it's about you when it's not yeah well at least he said it's a me problem right at least he was kind enough to realize he's stealing her youth and like she should get on with it and I have to imagine he was pretty open with her from the beginning. Like you don't get into a three year relationship without telling someone you don't want to

get married. Yeah. They broke up like the Sunday before Thanksgiving. They were supposed to spend Thanksgiving together. They just like got into a conversation about the future. He said it wasn't the first conversation like this, but it's the last one. Yikes. Yeah.

It was a little like out of left field considering it's the holidays. The timing wasn't great. I think their parents were both in town like ready to spend but that's it that's how the cookie crumbled speaking of cookies are you ready for our fifth and final story i am i love this story subway announces foot long cookies and is giving them out for free on monday so again if there's a free snack the toast is going to let you know where to find it. And this one is a special one because it's a foot long cookie. But it's also Subway. And the reason why I wanted to talk about this story is we rail on Subway all the time.

We don't eat their sandwiches. The stores smell like shit. But their chocolate chip cookies are amazing. Yeah. And they must be in like a special, you know, vacuum sealed vault because they don't smell like the rest of the store. No, it's true. It's true. So the fact that they're doing something different with their cookies and, you know, vacuum sealed vault because they don't smell like the rest of the store. No, it's true. It's true.

So the fact that they're doing something different with their cookies and, you know, they're known for their footlong. So it's like a funny, you know, it's like literally it looks like a piece of bread. It's a footlong cookie. Imagine getting two of those and putting a little bit of ice cream between them.

Chef's kiss. You should go. Treat yourself. A hundred percent. On Monday though, when it's free. I love this sort of ingenuity in marketing and baking. And I just, I give this tens, tens, tens across the board. The sub chain announced that it will add 12 inch cookies to menus nationwide in early

2024. But before adding the footlong dessert across the country, Subway is handing out the new dessert for free at select locations next week. So listen up. Monday, December 4th is National Cookie Day and fans can visit a restaurant in Chicago, Dallas, Miami, and New York City to snag one free footlong cookie with any purchase of any footlong sub. Okay, you have to buy a sub, so it's not like totally free? Turdy?

You have to buy a sub so it's not totally free. Oh. Get them a tuna sandwich. Doesn't he love their tuna? Or he hates it. It's not real tuna. He used to eat it a lot as a kid, and then it came out a few years ago. There's actually not even a 1% trace of tuna fish in their tuna or he hates it he it's not real he used to eat it a lot as a kid and then it came out a few years ago there's actually not even a one percent trace of tuna fish in their tuna salad

got it but wait this just reminded me of something okay I saw something on tiktok over the weekend it was just like the the biggest chain restaurants in the United States in terms of uh locations okay i want you to guess mcdonald's is number one yes number two subway yes well just because we're talking about it and you like don't you find that seems surprised strange i i can't say that i do i'm not an expert on the matter because i'm i don't keep up with subway like if there's a subway if I pass a subway I just I don't register it if I pass a McDonald's golden arches number three Taco Bell it's like a different category you're not you're if you think a little bigger like chains A drink chain? Starbucks. Yes.

Four? You're never going to guess it. Duncan? I found this shocking. No. Red Robin? KFC. Oh, that's not that crazy.

Six? Can you just tell me? Burger King. Okay. Seven? Pizza Hut. Eight? Domino's. Nine? Duncan. Ten? Krispy Kreme. me burger king okay seven pizza hut eight dominoes nine duncan 10 crispy cream taco bell is 11 cream

to me they're like so random diamond and like a needle in a haystack you can never find one right but this is just about location so i do think it's regional like to certain areas so there are people who have Krispy Kreme a plenty the way that we have Dunkin in New York they have Krispies yes where can we move to they have talk over 10,000 locations to put in perspective McDonald's which is number one has 40,000 and Subway has 37,000 Starbucks has 36,000 that's because McDonald's is not a burger business it's a real estate company. Right.

And we learned that from, what was that? The Founder. If you haven't seen The Founder, add that to your list of family movies. It's amazing. It's so good. Also, I want to just talk about something for a brief second. And it's about Spotify Wrapped. Are you starting to see more and more inconsistent information coming out of Spotify Wrapped?

I'm not really looking for inconsistencies. I'm not looking for it either. But like everybody's listening sounds brings them to Provo, Utah. Yeah, I heard about that. Mine was too. What was your listening sound? I didn't see that statistic. I didn't even know what people were talking about.

I must have tapped through it. They had like some random statistics. You listen most similarly to Provo, Utah, like a bunch of people. Like what's going on in Provo? That's where those schools are. I was going to Like what's going on in Provo? That's where those schools are. I was going to say, what's going on in Provo is illegal. Like that's where those ESG schools are.

Where Paris Hilton went, Provo Canyon. Yeah. They're like behavioral institutions. I don't think they get to listen to music there. Right. I guess what they're saying is you have the same sort of music taste as an angsty teen.

Or EGS, not ESG. I have the same music taste as an angsty teen or egs not esg i have the same music taste as an angsty teen anyways i'm just seeing like and people's they're not making sense i feel like there was some plant planting going on on the lists well spotify you have 24 hours to respond to bring it all the way to the top was taylor even the number one most streamed artist or did they want in on the taylor i do think she was I really do like I think it's fairly I think it's believable because like she's everybody's listening to her her she had like three albums nobody had Taylor Swift in her top five and was like what I never listened to Taylor Swift I know I'm just saying Spotify rap doesn't

seem as data-driven as it once did that's all I'm saying saying. Oh, wow. That's a huge accusation to hurl. It's a huge. I just feel like there were a couple things that were planted in there. Not necessarily Taylor, but then it makes you question the validity of Taylor. If there's one lie, it makes you question what else could be a lie. Right. If it's rotten at its core. Yeah.

If there's a piece of rot, you have to peel away. Is the whole thing rotten? And I've never felt like that about Spotify wrapped. You haven't. You're always, always lauding it for its accuracy. I'm such a champion of Spotify wrapped. You really are. But we have to be asking the hard questions

or else we're not doing our jobs. It's so true. Now we can go embark on the weekend, have our lunch. Let's do it. I hope everybody has an amazing restorative and relaxing weekend thank you so much for listening to the toast the millennial morning show where we deliver the fast-paced stories you need to know every Monday through Friday new tips are watching us on youtube please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up we're also available as podcast

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