The Toast - Weenie West's Watch Party: Friday, June 7th, 2024

Episode Date: June 7, 2024

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Good morning, millennials, and welcome back to The Toast. Happy Friday. Congratulations. It's honestly, the energy in this room, and I have felt it since I woke up this morning, like the energy in your house is so somber, almost morose. It's like everybody knows that I'm leaving, and they can't help but emulate sadness.

So for me, like it doesn't really feel. Like a fry yay. Like I don't have that yay energy, because like I said that morose somber feeling it doesn't go away is it feeling fry nay it's yeah I'm so sorry well I just want to say one thing if you're watching on YouTube like the aesthetic of today's video it's like six months in the making it's unparalleled because Bruno is here of course being mommy's angel working hard trying to book another trip to the maldives even though um he's a jew yeah so that's gonna be

impossible impossible um but he's he is the elk of dreamers so bruno's gonna find a way to the maldives yes bruno is the elk of a dreamer he never never gives up on his dreams. But all's that to say, Romeo's here today. This is his first time on the show. It is. So Romeo has been in the house, you know, the entire week. But for recording purposes, I always, you know, put him in the crate. He could take a nap and I can really focus on my job. But it's Friday.

It's our last day. He's been such a good boy, like bringing joy to millions here. The whole like neighborhood is kind of talking about him. So I felt like he deserved, and we'll see how it goes. And I feel like this is a good situation for him to be on the show. It's not like you're bringing him to the studio where if he's there, like you could always put him in the crate. If Jackie starts talking and like I disappear for like 35 seconds,

I'm putting Romeo in the crate. Or if there's a cut and you guys are like, what was cut out? I feel like that happens a lot when there's a cut in the show. There are so many reasons why we might have to cut the show. Like if there's a siren in the background or my Wi-Fi goes out sometimes and people really think there's tea. We very, very rarely edit our episodes. Like edit out something that was said.

Right. So if there's an abrupt cut, there's always people like theorizing what we possibly said. More often than not, there's like a police car outside my window making the loudest siren sound so we just like pause and wait for it to pass or yeah Jackie's been having some wi-fi issues so like our facetime freezes it's really not every now and then we say something crazy that we're like let's take out but really nine times out of ten it's just a tech thing or you get a phone call you know your external meters there or like I've been waiting for a delivery all day. It's always she's been waiting for a delivery.

So yes, the vibe in here is premium. I feel like today's episode, I'm going to be like touching, like I'm going to be moving around a lot because Romeo, like, of course, is my priority. I have to do the ads. I have my coffee. I'm also wearing my hair au naturale. Like I didn't even, like sometimes I wear it natural,

but like I flat iron the top, you know, I didn't touch. I showered last night, went to bed with wet hair. And I'm just like getting on a plane today. I was not blowing out my hair for the plane, you know? I understand. But I also feel like you forget that you are the kind of girl that has natural hair that should be warm. Like thing?

Growing up, you never had to do your hair. I had to do my hair every day in high school. No, I didn't. I had like nice. How would you feel if you had to do your hair every day in high school? I would feel horrible. Like dead ass. Because I used to like be able to wake up later than everyone. Right. And yeah, I forgot about. And still your hair looks better than mine, even though I did it. But then I got to a place like when we were on the breath, I never did my

hair. And when I look back on those pictures, I'm seriously like a guest. But not because of your hair. No, the hair is definitely a huge part of it. Everything else too. The mold, the chin, the clothes. Your hair naturally is like a nice hair okay maybe it's not perfection like coiffed but you have beautiful hair thank you that's really nice of you so it's like all's to say like you're not that brave I never said I was all's to say I never said I was bravery I don't see her so content week at the toast is coming to an end but not without one more fabulous fucking episode. We've got dear... We've got Summer House recap.

Jackie and I got in bed together last night with a couple of sweet treats and watched the reunion. And a couple of sweet boys. The boys were there. The treats were there. We really needed a live stream on us because we had commentary on every single thing everyone said. And I'll try to remember all of the strong thoughts

that the episode elicited. But did you not feel that it elicited strong emotions? I did. We kept pausing to like have conversations. And yeah, Jackie made a great call. We needed like a People's Couch live stream because we were just- Like everything someone said, we're like, liar.

Yeah, no, we were really being crazy. It was really good. It was good. And then we also have Queenie and Weenie of the Week, our final segment of the week where we dole out the awards of Queenie of the Week and Weenie of the Week. And I'm excited for that. Yeah, excited for that that. And then, of course, the Fast Five and

catching up with the girlies. But I fear content week is coming to a close. I would say, you know, we had contented a little too close to the sun. I feel like every time I come down here, we focus really hard on getting Patreon episodes out. Yeah. And this week we were like so focused on getting TikToks and reels out. We didn't film any Patreon content. It's true. I have a Patreon up my sleeve that I would have filmed this week, but you were here. So I'll film that. I'll blame me. I'll film. No, but I mean, it's evergreen sort of actually, it's kind of timely. You guys kind of mean it like ASAP. Right. Also, I am going to this month, do my sourdough redemption episode, but I don't want to put the cart before the horse. I've had two successful sourdoughs, but I think I'm,

I've been getting the hang of it. And yeah, we were just kind of going viral. Like don't want to put the cart before the horse I've had two successful sourdoughs but I think I'm I'm getting the hang of it and yeah we were just kind of going viral like don't mind us don't mind us though there was a lot that needed to be packaged into content around here you know you kind of came in with your list no with your like third person pov of like what's going on in my house yeah and. And you needed to show the people because I can't see it from the inside. I'm too in it. A lot of people say to me, you know, Claudia, the question I always get, if you weren't doing this, like what job would you be doing? And after this week, like I would want to be Jackie Oshry's social media manager. I think I would be so good first of all. You would be. And yeah, I think it would benefit like everyone. So that's the,

I officially have an answer to that question. Like I think my life would benefit from a social media manager, but I couldn't just hire anyone the reason why I don't have one is because like at present there's no one who can do it better than me but I feel comfortable saying like you're hired yeah I think I could bring a lot to the team I think it's my personal assistant just like overall like home like you're so like great I don't want that job but executive assistant no I like the social I don't want to be like pick up your laundry and stuff no you don't have to do laundry. You'll be like playing with the kids.

That doesn't fall under social media manager. No, that falls under auntie. And I wouldn't accept a dollar for it. And you wouldn't do it as my executive assistant? Well, if I'm being salaried. Like 30 minutes of Hakuna Matata? It doesn't feel right to. I would have to do it on my lunch break.

Like it doesn't feel right to accept money. Understood. Oh, speaking of, I've read a ton of novels I'd like to share with the class. I read a couple more this morning. And now you know why I thought it would be a good idea for a Patreon episode last month to do a book review of children's books

because there's so much to talk about. You did bring that up and I was seriously like, I laughed in your face. I'm like, no. But I actually have been doing that every day this week. Okay, yeah, great idea. Yesterday I read a book that I feel like I knew in my bones. One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish.

And I actually did not finish it. It was a DNF. It was a DNF. It's such a piece of shit. Shite. It makes literally no sense. It kind of feels like it was written by a DNF. It's such a piece of shit. Shite. It makes literally no sense. It kind of feels like it was written by a schizophrenic. Like it's really, I don't know what the message, there was no message because there was no

plot. There was no character development. Like it was a piece of shit. Yeah. Then I read Brown Bear, Brown Bear, Where Do You Go or whatever. What do you say? Um, and let me tell you, it was repetitive and I think it was a little below my reading level.

I think it's for like real babies. For but repetition is good for children okay that in mind so while i didn't love it i understood it like i we saw each other understood its purpose yeah it has a place in the literary ecosystem for the children and then today i read the snitches and other tales so the other? Throw them in the garbage. Okay. Let's talk about The Sneetches at present. The Sneetches itself, I loved. The rhyming, the message, the animation, the story of the star-bellied... Sylvester McBean and his monkey machine. A story of capitalism. A story of supply and demand.

A story of trying to fit in when you're born to stand out. A story of we're all the same on the inside. I liked it a lot. Whether we have stars upon thars or none upon thars. Then there were a couple of other stories in the back. Now, I didn't love the one with the pants and the lady who had a bunch of kids named Dave, but I did like the one about the Zacks. And I giggled at the last page when the Zacks didn't move, they the highway over the Zacks like that's funny that's funny now I would really ask that you

please don't leave comments saying well did you know Dr. Seuss was an anti-Semite racist like I'm sure he was I'm sure he was but the books are good and I'm holding space for two truths and I don't stand the books are in my life not his like personal opinions and what like politics I the thing is like without the internet I wouldn't even know that I it's like the books are in my life, not his like personal opinions and whatever. Politics. The thing is like without the internet, I wouldn't even know that. I would just have the books. And I think we would be better off, honestly, like, because I'm not over here like starting a Dr. Seuss fan club,

but yeah, I might start a Zax fan club. I've already started a Sneetches fan club. You are the president. Of the Sneetches fan club. There is actually a spinoff called Counselor Snitch. Yeah. Counselor Sneetch. By the way, maybe that's the next book the next iteration counselor snitch counselor snitches

i'll think about it but i already got it on my sleeve i already know what camber's doing next summer it's so exciting um so yeah that's what i read we played pickleball last night just kind of hitting our activity goal left right and center crush my activity goal what's your calories for today how many did they tell you to burn 400 450 we want me to do so i'm gonna have to go to the gym yeah that's rough well now that i'm leaving rip you have all the time you know back and i and i will say bringing this conversation full circle we absolutely slayed the house down boots on our diet slash health journeys this week like right right no I didn't do one thing that I wouldn't have done in terms of maybe that bag of pretzels last night during summer house 100 calories it's fine you're fine I almost went

and got us frozen yogurt to like celebrate how good we were on our diets um but I didn't want to be a bad influence on you, you know? Yeah, no. So you're welcome to come back anytime knowing that we can do it together. We can do it together. We're stronger than ever. And we hit our activity goals and we played pickleball and goals were met. It's been an amazing week. I hope you guys had an amazing week.

And if you didn't, it's over. So like we can all be happy. Like Friday's truly the great equalizer for sure. Oh, I sorry. I thought you were saying like, I hope you guys had an amazing week and if you didn't it's over so like we can all be happy like friday is truly the great equalizer for sure oh i sorry i thought you were saying like i hope you guys had an amazing week like watching us have an amazing week you know they have lives too you know i thought you meant like enjoying content week because people have been loving of course they loved content week but it's for them and it genuinely pains me to say this but like you know people who listen to the show like they think about other things besides us which is devastating i i thought you were just saying like i hope you guys enjoyed this week oh I know I know that they did from

what we've put out from our poor I know I don't even need to say like I know we play in their lives no we crushed it I would love to make one more tiktok before we go and we still need to finish that one I know and if you don't let me I'm posting the one that you don't like fair okay it's not that I don't like it I just think we could do better okay so we have that one and I think I need to think of one more. Because like so much virality. I need to take. Yeah.

Oh and speaking of content. We did our photo shoot yesterday. We did. Oh my god. In the 80 degree weather. Like I seriously was going. I like felt nauseous afterwards. But we got the shot.

We got the shots. Photoshopping soon. Just stay tuned for that. We have new merch coming this month. And like. I just. I'm speechless over it it's so sickening yeah and now the photos were like kind of like everything they were so we won't tease too much you'll see it all next week and before that we've got the fast five we've got weenie of the week we've got Romeo we've got Broneo we do have them and so far Ro. I don't want to jinx

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Thank you, The Turd. I don't know if I love that. I'm not going to lie. Because people are always like, doesn't it bother you that your nickname is Judy? And no, I never associate it. But putting the the really points to the Judy-like, you know, relation.

And I don't like it. Okay. I was just riffing off The Toast. No, I know. You love to riff, but you riffed a little too close to the sun okay but also i can't i can't go with turtle i'm you're putting me in a lot setting a lot of boundaries for me and you cannot put juggling filet in a box you can't i'm sorry

you know what i take it back do your thing i'm feeling boxed in do your thing are you ready for our first story like if i'm being honest no but sure it's no you're ready for this one because it's a music news that's so exciting for us and fans of good music everywhere what is kelly clarkson doing luke combs has announced he's dropping a new album next friday so in a week from today and it's called fathers and sons and you know it's in celebration of father's day next weekend and it's all about fathers and sons his first single the, The Man He Sees in Me, is out now. But the rest of the songs include these songs. Front Door Famous, In Case I Ain't Around, Huntin' By Yourself, Little Country Boys, Whoever You Turn Out To Be, Remember Him That Way,

The Man He Sees in Me, All I Ever Do Is Leave, Plant a Seed, Ride Around Heaven, remember him that way the man he sees in me all i ever do is leave plant a seed ride around heaven my old man was right take me out to the ball game no i seriously i'm prepared to kill myself i'm gonna cry just reading the track list and let me tell you what's so fabulous about this obviously new luke combs music is amazing too um i love that he only gave us a one week lead time that's like a thing with the music industry i'm just i can't get on board with like the three month promo for an album or like album drop today like like you didn't get right you either get too much warning or zero and i don't even like the zero warning because like i do need to prepare yeah i need to clear my schedule but also i feel like we're at this really interesting inflection

point in country music when you think about like the big biggest you know stars I think about like you know Morgan Wallen. I think about Zach Bryan and I feel like they're all really like TikTok-y and like Gen Z and they're all kind of fighting for that audience whereas Luke is just like over here like embracing his millennial nature and fatherhood obviously is a huge part of that. And I don't know. I just love that he's just kind of like on his own level. Yeah. No, he's not running that race. And even though it's good to have TikTok success, like there are other people,

there's actually more people. Right. There are more people in the population who are in Gen Z than there are Gen Z. And they deserve good music too. Yeah. I'm so excited for this. Me too.

It feels like it's going to music too. Yeah. I'm so excited for this. Me too. It feels like it's going to be emotional. Yeah. And any song Luke has written about parenthood or about his parents, like literally always makes me cry. What's the one? Take You With Me. Take You With Me. Even though I'm leaving, which is like about his dad.

A little bit Four Leaf Clover is like about his parents. Family life. Five Leaf Clover. Anytime he like even references in a song like Parenthood or his parents, like I'm not okay. Yeah. And he has this way of just putting words to these feelings we all feel, but we don't know, like we don't know how to say it, you know?

I'm really looking forward to this. And yeah. Me as well. And I hope for you guys as well. And I just, I just love you know yeah everything he does is just better than the last it's true and it's like it's literally too much emotionally I was just listening to because I'm I've like have this really this dearth of music like I just don't have what to listen to right now so I've been listening I was listening to my top

songs of 2022 not last year like this year before it just came up on my tesla homepage on spotify and it was all luke growing up the first yeah growing up the first middle of summer like forgot that was my favorite song how run in your memory so good you know what I've been listening to a lot weirdly I too feel a dearth like I don't I don't know what to listen to so I've recently been like diving into Keith Urban's catalog because when we saw him at that Austin country music festival such an impact on you well I forgot he finished with this song wasted time and I was like that's a song I used to listen to so I like knew a couple of the words I was like I need to get back into that song and then I started just doing to the

this is Keith Urban and I've been running to a bunch of his music and that song, Wasted Time, like, it's so good. Yeah. It's funny,

by the way, like, listen to the words. It's funny how the best days of my life were all that wasted time. Just like, doing nothing with the people you love.

Yeah. It's not, you know, going to the Met Gala. Like, it's just the simple things. I'm a simple girl. You are a simple girl.

I didn't know when we were both like watching Keith Urban that you were like having this moment. Experiencing something. Yeah. Yeah. I've been trying to remember like artists that I'm like go listen to when you're looking for something to listen to. Like Gavin DeGraw. Yeah. Never misses for me.

He's timeless to me. Of course Kelly. And then like Rascal Flatts and Lady A. I've been doing a lot of Lady A. Rascal Flatts is kind of where you go when you have nowhere else to go. He's always there for us. Yeah. I've been listening to so much This Is Rascal Flats on my Sonos. So has Margot. Yeah I know she posted to her story. I was doing it before I just wanted to say that. It's just weird to have this like dearth of music. I feel like I'm always overwhelmed where it's like I'm not keeping up with what's new and there's so

much to listen to but I don't know maybe because I'm a driver now you have all the time in the world yeah it makes you think but I'm excited for this one me too and just thanks thanks Luke he's so giving truly are you ready for our next story yeah which is some exciting news for something about her and kind of full circle yeah because Diane Keaton visited something about her the place where Ariana Maddox and Katie Maloney named a sandwich after her oh I didn't know that part I just knew it was like Nancy Meyers coded yeah both but there is a sandwich on the menu that's named after her which I'm sure is why she went but because the restaurant was like inspired by Nancy Meyers and that's so Diane Keaton coastal grandmother like it's very full circle now did she go because she watches Vanderpump Rules or she's like oh there's this new sandwich shop within with the sandwich um like does she

know the larger context in the culture i'm sure i don't think she just popped into a sandwich shop whether her assistant watches or someone was like you need to go and take a picture like this will get headline news okay in a positive way for you i think it was because also katie's mom was there i'm sure it was like a big day diane keaton's coming I mean that is a huge day yeah who do you think are their other dream guests Nancy Nancy I think they also have the Meg Meg Ryan okay right that's a sandwich on their menu I didn't know that either let me look at the rest of their menu I think me think. So funny because I've, oh my God, grandmother with the loud iPad. Wow. See something about her menu.

What's so interesting to me is like the whole aesthetic of the restaurant, like Nancy Meyers, Coastal Grand, is literally the antithesis of Katie Maloney's very clear and specific aesthetic.

It's true. Which is like emo night vibes. Yeah, this is like very feminine and swirly. It's like the total opposite. I never put that together until now. So they have the Diane. That's the first one.

Then the Carrie. The what? The Diane. The what? Diane. I think it's pronounced the Diane. I'm like, I think I pronounced Diane right. By the way, if you're looking for music to listen to, you should go listen to Cam.

Yeah. The Carrie, Washington, the Reese, as in Witherspoon. Okay, what do these have to do with Nancy Meyers? Well, no, I think it's just like great female actresses in a rom-com. Or, yeah, I don't know what rom-com Carrie was in. She's Scandal. No, it's Carrie with a Y, so that's Washington, not Carrie with an I.

That would be Russell. Yeah. Scandal, but, like, Scandal's not an I. Not Samushy. Okay, yeah, agreed. The Reese, they would love for her to come through. No, for sure. Okay, but Reese, she's just, like, a fabulous woman?

I think, like, leading ladies. This is all leading ladies. What are they? Okay, okay, sorry. Okay. This is all leading ladies. What are they? Okay, okay, sorry. Okay, can I say all the names and then maybe they'll make sense to you as a group? Yeah. The Diane, the Carrie, the Reese, the Drew,

the Kate, I believe as in Winslet, the Viola, the Nancy, the Meg. So just actresses, it appears. Actresses, yeah. But Katie and, what's their obsession with actresses? Like sandwich, like. What? Sandwich what?

I see it. Like something about her was inspired by, like, romantic movies. It was? Yes. Nancy Meyers. She makes movies. Yeah, but it wasn't the romantic element. It looks like a sandwich shop out of a movie.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. a movie yeah oh oh yeah yeah yeah okay yeah yeah you're right you're right and then the sandwiches are actresses got it okay it to me I see it no I get it I get it I get it okay cool well that's very cool that Diane Keaton came it is and hopefully more will come what's your favorite Diane Keaton came. It is. And hopefully more will come. What's your favorite Diane Keaton movie? Hmm. I have to Google it. What's yours?

I mean, it's a toss up because obviously the obvious answer is something's got to give. And like that's definitely up there. But it would be wrong to not say because I said so. Yeah. Morning Glory. Oh shit. Morning Glory. Oh shit. Morning Glory, of course. By the way.

Even though it's like not Diane Keaton, but no, she's amazing in it. She's the star. A star. A star. She's a supporting actress. Morning Glory. Done.

Yeah. Morning Glory. Also The Godfather. Yeah. I also, but she was actually annoying as fuck in The Godfather. It's like. She's always kind of annoying as fuck.

No, but she's just like, so like you're in the crime family. It's like, yeah, get over it. Get over it. We kill people for a living. Grow up. Also can't forget Baby Boom. One of my favorites as well.

And Father of the Bride. Yeah. Does she play the mom? She does. And I think I said this, but a couple of maybe a year ago during chilly season, I made a concerted effort to watch all the Nancy Meyers movies I hadn't seen. And Father of the Bride was one of them. And I, and this is going to ruffle a lot of feathers, but I said this already on the podcast,

like piece of shit, piece of shit, like such a bad movie. You, they actually didn't know that you could make me dislike Steve Martin, but here I was. Well, I watched Father of the Bride when I was wedding planning I was just like looking for somebody to watch I was like oh I've never seen this and yeah I didn't like it either because I didn't watch it like in the formative period in my life and when it was a good movie of the time I felt that way also about single wives first and she's in that right piece of shit yeah Jackie's right if you there are movies like are if you're our age that like

are a core part of who you are and if you don't watch him when you're young and impressionable you watch it when you're old and like wise you will think it's like I'm sure some of our favorite movies if somebody our age were to watch it right now they'd be like that's literally like a bad movie yeah Bratz well no you can't say that about Bratz. That doesn't apply here, but yeah. So, yum. She went to something about her sandwiches. Yum. Yum.

Our next story, Pat Sajak bids farewell to Wheel of Fortune in the first look at his final episode. Thank you for allowing me into your lives, he says. It was all just a game at first to Pat Sajak, but then it became something much more meaningful. The longtime Wheel of Fortune host's final episode heading the game show airs in just a few hours and production has released a first look preview ahead of the broadcast in which he expresses his gratitude to his audience. Yeah, and I saw this clip of Vanna. Like, it was nice. I don't know. Maybe it's because, I don't know,

he's not dying or anything, but the way I feel, like, about Pat Sajak's departure and the way I felt about Alex Trebek's departure. Now Alex Trebek was departing the planet and you know, Pat Sajak is just departing the set, but I don't know. I feel like this should be a job for life. Like when I saw the headlines,

his final episode, I was like, Oh right. Rip. And now then I realized like, no, he's just like moving on from the role. Like I don't,

I feel like it's like the queen, you know, once you have it same with Alex Trebek, like the only reason to, to don't, I feel like it's like the queen, you know, once you have it, same with Alex Trebek. Like the only reason to, to not show up for work is because you're dead. Yeah. It's a job for life.

I don't disagree. But have they announced his replacement? No, I'm sure it'll be a whole rigmarole. And they'll land with nobody. What did they even end up doing on Jeopardy? Ken Jennings and Mayim, but I think no more Mayim. I think it's Ken yeah it's so funny like how many hoops they jumped through just to not immediately

give it to Ken Jennings because he had old tweets about like the disabled. And I think they were also sort of like loving the attention and being like who's it gonna be we don't know Aaron Rodgers yeah maybe it'll be you and like just leaving crumbs for everyone. Maybe it'll be you. They just like didn't want to make a choice because then that would make the fanfare over but in turn they just made everyone disinterested. They they grow up also a little too close to the sun. Yeah they didn't know they overplayed their hand of interest. Yeah that's a that's a great point. So hopefully they don't do that here but the obvious choice. Did they not say that it was going to be Ryan Seacrest? I was going to say, what's Ryan Seacrest taking over for?

This? Pat? Ryan Seacrest, Wheel of Fortune. We talk about so much like dumb, mindless news. Like it's really hard. These shows are all the same.

Oh yeah. No, he is doing. Yeah. I didn't need that. What is it? Pop culture, Wheel of Fortune?

Like, no, stay in your lane. Well, I'm ready for the pop culture culture Wheel of Fortune spinoff. Totally. Stay in your lanes because he has many. Stay in your toy lanes.

Toy lanes. I think what you mean is stay in your Lanez. Stay in your Lanez, Ryan Seacrest. Yeah. I don't know. So, but like, bon voyage to Pat. I hope you enjoy your time off and whatever you choose to do next. I know he like did the same job for 41 years and he showed up every single day, but like

leaving now does feel lazy. Yeah. No, because he like wants to like play golf or tire. Like you can do that, by the way, and still host your 25 minute game show. It just seems like nobody wants to work these days. It's so true. Except Romeo. Look at him.

He's like dying to work. Gorgeous man. By the way, how cute is Romeo? Bruno's already clocked out. Look at this face. Now, like now that I'm out of my, I'm really out of the grief. Like Romeo has truly brought me back to life. Like I'm so in love and he's such a good boy.

First of all, he looks so much like Theo, right? And he also looks like Bruno. He's so gorgeous. He is a gorgeous man. I love him so much. Oh, Ro. I'm really happy. Like for real.

And he's had the best time here. And he's been so good. And I can say this because I know my husband nor yours listens to the podcast. I was thinking today when I took Romeo out for his morning dump, I'm like, my good boy didn't embarrass me. He did not have one accident. I was thinking that last night. In your house. He's such a good boy. I'm getting ready this morning. Jackie texts me. There's a poop in the guest room. But better than a pee because it was on the carpet. So yeah, no, totally fine. And he's really been great.

The kids love him. He's really been keeping them on their toes. The kids love him. They're like, seriously, they're like, I want to play with Romeo. I want to play with Romeo. I'm like, okay, but don't start running because then he'll chase you. But their, their idea of playing with Romeo is running. So they start running in the backyard.

Romeo thinks we're playing. He's running. And then they're getting chased and they're screaming, crying. Hey, put Romeo away. Put Romeo away away it's like you started with him and then you know what they say after that I love Bruno no and then they say I don't want Romeo to hurt me I don't want Romeo to hurt me and I'm like well you gaslit him so but it's really made them appreciate Bruno for what and who he is and just being this like calm force in their life yeah but then they also have this this love and admiration for romeo who's like their new fun fun and games yeah so there's space for everyone

oh ro oh ro oh burn over telling like he doesn't hear me literally literally okay ready for our next story um major news for people who watch traders but yes the cast of the new season of traitors came out and one person in particular has ever run in a tizzy sandoval or sam ashkari sam ashkari we kind of knew sandoval was gonna be on traitors right no isn't that what he was filming no that was that other show oh like fortune armed forces what was it wait no i'm gonna get it hold on fortune armed forces what was it wait no i'm gonna get it hold on like blank forces special forces got it yeah and then he also filmed traitors and sam ashgari who's britney spears's ex-husband is also on the season he's like the only person there's like a specific resume you need to have in order to be cast on the show and it doesn't it's a peacock show but you they come from all different networks you know Survivor, Big Brother, Bravo of course, The Bachelor.

Most of them have been reality stars. Oh. I'm sure there's been like one or two that aren't in some way. Honestly no I think the whole premise is that like. I think it started. It's a reality show kind of competition. Yeah. So yeah for it to be someone who's not in this space is weird but for it to be someone who was literally married to britney spears is even weirder yes but page six is reporting why sam ashgari can't talk about britney on the traitors they're told the actor signed a non-disclosure agreement years ago that bars him from going into detail about his marriage to britney um however contrary to a newer tmc report claiming that sam is not allowed to say anything negative or positive about her a source tells page six exclusively that there is not a complete ban

and also points out that the model has publicly spoken about his former spouse since their divorce he had said it was a blessing to share life with someone for so long people grow apart and move on but overall he probably won't be talking about Britney all day long on the show because he signed an NDA I happen to really like I don don't watch Traitors actually. I started it and it just like, it wasn't for me. Not that means that it's bad. It's just like, I'm not into like competition, whatever. But I really like that it gives like a second life to reality stars. Cause you know, you can't be the name on everybody's lips forever. And there are so many, I think like talented, funny people who kind of like just fade a little bit given the nature of reality TV. So I love that it like

reminds people how fabulous Phaedra was. Like she really had a whole new career after, um, traders same with Mercedes Javi. Like I love that about traders. So there are people on this cast who I feel are worthy of that sort of renaissance that the show gives. Personally, like I don't need more Sam Ashgari in my life. I don't need more Tom Sandoval in my life. But run through the cast and let's just give it a quick one over. Okay. I'm on my way.

I'm on my way. Okay. Traitor season three cast Is Bob Harper from Biggest Loser Oh my god okay Bob Harper it's so funny I loved Biggest Loser growing up and I know like We live in times where that's just like not acceptable

But they need to bring that show back And it's crazy how Bob Harper Um Became like this king Because Jillian Michaels like is the woe. Like she's always starting except now she's like

anti-Ozempic. So I'm anti-Jillian. Oh, is she? Hugely. It's lazy. Like she's being crazy. I mean, what do you expect from literally like Jillian Michaels?

She seems like a nut. But like it's really making me hate her. Oh, that's so interesting. Then Bob the Drag Queen who won season eight of RuPaul's Drag Race. Brittany Haynes from Big Brother.

Chanel Ayan from Real Housewives of Dubai. Caroline Weiger from Survivor. Chrishell. Sierra Miller from Summer House. Oh. Yeah. Especially after last night. Especially after last night. Especially after last night.

I hope she found love and is married from someone she met on Traitors. Maybe we'll find their name here. Sam Ashwari. Oh. Danielle Reyes from Big Brother.

Dolores Catania, Real Housewives of New Jersey. Dorinda Medley, Real Housewives of New York. Dylan Efron, Zac Efron's brother for Sierra. I could see it.

Gabby Windy from The Bachelorette Jeremy Collins From Survivor Lord Ivor Mountbatten A British Royal For Sierra Mountbatten Mountbatten

Related to Phillip Yeah And all of them That's really crazy That is crazy Nikki Garcia Formerly Nikki Bella Boston Rob Mariano from Survivor

Robin Dixon Real Hazards of Potomac Tom Suss Tom Sandoval Sam Ashgari Tony Lachos from Survivor Wells from Bachelor and that's it that's a big people fall in love on this show ever it doesn't I'm not getting that vibe it's's only the third season, but no. And, like, everyone's of different ages. I think there was a couple. Who? I don't, I didn't know either of them. I'm on my way.

From season two, Traitor's Romance. I think it was a girl from Love Island. Or I'm, like, totally making this up. Like, sometimes I just, like, think of things. Like, that didn't happen. Love Island. No, wait, don't write Love Island. That might fuck with your... Traitor's Rom two couple peter weber and love islands eek and sue

yes yes yes yes oh wow i mean leave it to him so cute okay so maybe we'll have love this season. I know that is so cute. Okay. So yeah. Trader season three, like that sounds like a good cast. Yeah. Happy for the traders fans. Like they've been,

you know, excited about this. Yeah. Lots of talk, lots of talk. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? A little culture news. Yes.

Cause Gen Z women are detailing, um, the new craze for a boyfriend this summer you know we used to have short king and then it was like i'm looking for a guy in finance for this summer we're looking for a sexy rat gen z has spoken and the hot rodent man is in and they don't want him fumigated the concept of the hot rodent man might sound foreign to anyone who has ever worn skinny jeans but it's a term for young people like that's rude yeah it's a term for young people used to describe a hipster a hot rodent man can also be known as a sexy rat boyfriend they want the hot rodent men and they're very vocal about

it online someone said hot rodent summer rise of the hot rodent now let me describe what a hot rodent or a sexy rat because i'm really getting over like coming up with phrases and new words for things that already exist for sure for sure we probably have our own word for it but this is what gen z is calling a sexy rat it is essentially a lanky man or someone more over someone more bulky so lank not skinny skinny it's someone with sunken eyes and pale skin that scurries around instead of walking with purpose essentially it's the opposite of a finance bro. So Johnny Depp in the late 90s is a prime example of a hot rodent. He wasn't Brad Pitt.

I get it. He was still gorgeous, but he looked more afraid of vitamin C. More sunken in, yeah. Very Edward Cullen coded. It's a word to describe. But he's also like a little bulk. I think he toes the line. It's a word to describe someone who is not conventionally handsome, but still hot.

So while Chris Hemsworth is conventionally perfect, someone like Mattie Healy would be a sexy roadie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know who else? And I think a lot of people are talking about him. Did you watch Serena Carpenter's new music video? Please, please, please. No, but I listened to the song and it's about Barry Keoghan.

Well, he's in, I don't know if it's about him, but he's. It's about an actor like that. She's dating. Like, please, like, be like decent. So he's in the music video cute life imitating art yeah so it's like she gets like she gets thrown in the junk tank one night and she like locks eyes with this like career criminal and she keeps bailing him out of jail and like they like in and they like ride around he like keeps going back to jail and she's like please stop doing bad things but she's always there to pick him up in a fur coat she looks so sick and a lot of people are like oh I get it

I understand the Barry Keoghan of it all like he was like this hot felon in the music video people are like I'm finally seeing it like what Sabrina sees and I do think he might be a hot rodent you think he's a little bulky actually he's not skinny I feel like the sexiest rodent that there is is timothy chalamet yes he's kings of sexy rodents so i'm i'm now here to understand like like rodent is just the opposite of my type like i like conventionally hot sunlit you know men who eat yeah i think travis barker is a sexy rodent yep someone said you should want to date stew Stuart Little okay wait this is so funny to me because I just saw this TikTok that I was gonna send to you I think this Jeremy Allen White is a sexy rodent no and look at this picture he has rodent like I think he goes into the sun he only

has sunken in eyes but he's beefy as hell is he it doesn't he play in that show the beef it's not called the beef by the way did you see ballerina Farm is pregnant with her eighth child? What? Yes, it came up on my TikTok today. Eighth. She posted a picture. Two million views. Eighth baby, heart.

And she looks like pretty far along. Wait, that's Claudia. She just gave birth. Yeah, I'm aware, Mrs. USA. Hold on. Okay, and then you just reminded me I wanted to play this TikTok for everyone. It was so funny. How are you breaking ballerina news to me? Oh i've been in the chad wifing home a

little too long cluddy she hasn't posted to her instagram it's on tiktok cluddy she hasn't posted on instagram are you sure it's not like her pregnancy announcement from her last baby like there's literally no way okay here we go gaslighting me ballerina Farm. Oh, wait. Like, I'm up on her cycle. I realize this account with 400,000 followers is called Ballerina Farm Fan. I've hacked into her natural cycles. I know she's not. Okay, but wait.

It's an eighth baby. Yeah, that was when she just, that's her last baby. Like, this is an old, they're just, like, recycling old content. Oh, my God. I'm so sorry. That's okay. Honestly, like, I wasn't ready. Let me unfollow this fan account.

That's Brent's fake news. Fuck. It's not fake news. It's just, like, out of time news. Okay, well, I wanted to play this TikTok. My literal new favorite person, this guy Cameron on TikTok, he put to words so perfectly, like, how I feel about about what's it called hot rodents while i'm on my hot horse complaining let me say this stop giving things that already

have a name new names it already has a name talk about something oh my gosh you guys i have the best hack to stay organized it's called time blocking bitch you made a schedule this ain't nothing new you made a schedule no i like i can't like strawberry girl summer like stop time blocking that's time like that's a perfect example time blocking like here's a hack it's literally just called writing things down to make a schedule right so what would you call the hot rodent bad tasting men no i'm kidding what we would say like hipster emo like it exists like skinny guys yeah yeah so hot rod in summer having said that like i see i see what they're saying it's not my type but i'm glad that we have you know came coming up with a new

word for it and like at least it was like different like like short king summer was like i think it was actually fall but sure it was like it was innovative like it was different like everybody has been clowning on short guys forever. It's like, no, let's embrace. Yeah. You know? Yeah. But like, this moody, artsy, like, it's been done.

You know? Yeah. It's been done. So that's what the kids are up to. And those were the past five. And we're going to dive into our summer house recap. And of course, our Queenie and Weenie of the Week. So the latter half of the show is brought to you by L'Oreal Paris.

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Thank you, La. You're welcome. All right, Summer House first, correct? Yes. Oh my God. So overall thoughts, and then we'll get into specific conversations,

is I feel as though the reunion so far is being mismanaged. I agree. Jackie and I had like, we're taking so much umbrage with Andy's like, bad line of questioning,

his bad faith actor-ness. Like, I feel like he really came in wanting to, like, gotcha Lindsay. Yeah, and he was jumping all over the place. I actually didn't even expect that we would get to Lindsay and Carl until part three. That's usually what they do, just like with Sandoval. But we, like, open with Lindsay and Carl. Then he asks Ciara a question about Wes. She gives an answer that obviously leads to more questioning.

And he's like, we'll get back to it. So it's like, why did you ask that one question to begin with at that time? I feel like maybe it wasn't Andy. I feel like it was edited poorly. Because Andy's actually been known to be very good at his job. And it did feel like there was just, somebody would say something very loaded and we just left it hanging there. And that's not really Andy's style. He's kind of like a leech like he'll go in so I feel

like it was edited poorly because you were also remarking a lot of people are like planning on Danielle for her hair and makeup because it looks so crazy she's so people are saying that too yeah okay she's so poorly lit yeah I don't think she was actually wearing that much blush I think like seriously there are shadows all over her face yeah and a couple of people look like they're lit poorly yeah I think the further away you are from Andy the worse your lighting is so I think Danielle's is the worst Jesse Solomon had like a little bit of weirdness and Paige had also like a big shadow on her face right and then everyone gets better from there the other side because Gabby was on the end of the other couch and she looked perfect oh my god Gabby yeah first of all I feel like Gabby

hasn't been like a real conversation piece throughout this season I feel like she's kind of slipping through the cracks it's just like Lindsay's mouthpiece and while she was being Lindsay's mouthpiece last night she like first of all looked so insane her body like I I died she really like came I don't know what her goal was but she came to get airtime and she did and I thought she was spitting fucking facts oh I didn't even think she was coming to get airtime sort of way because I don't mean that negatively by the way no like I loved everything that she had to say I feel like when it comes to someone's relationship there are things like sometimes it's emotional to talk about like you need your friend to speak up for you like Paige and Sierra like he was technically being

Sierra's mouthpiece like good that's what a friend does and I thought I'm most happy for Lindsay that she has a friend like Gabby did that for her because of course like Danielle isn't gonna do that because she's more interested in like what the guys think about her but I thought so the outline of the reunion was frustrating to follow we were jumping around a lot I felt like Andy's questions were like meant to be gotcha towards Lindsay because I do feel like he aligns himself when there's a show that is men and women he really favors the men that's just a fact we've said it like since the beginning you can see it like on southern charm on vanderpump rules um and he's like being buddy buddy with carl and kyle but like lindsey to me last night like was completely

on point and everything she had to say in her relation everything she had to say period the only thing that i need more clarity on is that thing with page in the photo shoot yeah i like that makes me sad that they're not getting along because I really liked when they were getting along this summer and I just want to say I'm sure there's more to the story and why they didn't show us more of that and they left it so confusing but like pretty much Paige heard from Carl this conversation he overheard of Lindsay's like one Carl is a liar we've saw that when he said pay uh Lindsay wouldn't let Kyle be my best man or two even when he's not lying he's so confused because he colors everything with his feelings on top of it maybe he

felt like he heard Lindsay saying she wanted to sabotage your photo shoot like Paige couldn't have just taken Carl's word because Carl's word means nothing but I know Paige is like she probably didn't but they didn't tell us anything the annoying thing is that Carl's word like still carries weight in the group, even though, and maybe it's just because we're watching it now, like a year out, like Carl is such a liar. And when he gets caught,

when he got called out in a lie last night, literally for the groomsman thing, or even, um, the fight that they had, that was interesting before they broke up on camera. She came into that bedroom and was like, Carl,

why are we filming? And they got into this huge explosive fight. And he was like, yeah, I was very angry. And he got called out again. He, he got called out for being a liar so many times. And then he just, his way of reconciling that was like,

well, that's how I experienced it. That's what my feelings were. Yeah, that's how I felt. Like I, you know, Lindsay didn't say that Kyle couldn't be a groomsman, but I felt like she felt that way. When it's like, Lindsay is fucking clear about how she feels.

She's not someone who's like passive aggressive. If she needs to be, she's just straight up aggressive. And so when she was like, that, I asked, why are we filming? You started shouting at me. And he was like, you were shouting at me. And he's like, no, no, you were shouting at her. Why were you shouting at me? Yeah.

And I, it was bothering me that like Carl's was, is still having an impact on like what page and like his words still, it means nothing to me. He's such a crazy liar. And I think part of it is like, yes, he is lying. Cause I do think he wants to make his fiance look bad but I also think he lives in like a deranged like I think he's delusional I think sometimes he says things and he really believes them to be true oh yeah for sure like everything's like colored by his feelings which is why you just like can't take his word at face value so I don't know what happened with the photo shoot and Lindsay but I also feel like we saw this a year ago at the reunion where

Lindsay's accused of something she said I I didn't do it she doesn't offer proof to why she didn't do it or who did it instead but it just kind of sits there as this like um hindrance and this hindrance in her friendships and then it the truth comes out so I'm kind of leaving space for that where it's like I don't know what happened at this photo shoot but like maybe it's maybe we should believe Lindsay a little bit for a second maybe there's it's not exactly what she was accused of, just like with. That's an amazing comparison. The article about Craig being drunk at the wedding. I'm so excited we're talking about that because first of all, Danielle is the worst person on

this cast and she has been for a while. But the fact that she, first of all, sat through last year's reunion where there was this whole conversation about Lindsay being accused of something and it's like, she did it and then last night she admitted that she did it how everyone doesn't run from her like you're all in the public eye and one of you just admitted to being a leak which is like the worst thing you can be seriously like you want someone like that around you have to live in a house for a summer with that person like to me the fact that she admitted it was so crazy. The fact that she had the absolute gall to be mad at Lindsay for throwing her onto the bus when Lindsay wasn't even mad at her for letting Lindsay take the fall.

Right. Literally Lindsay got dragged last season during the reunion. And actually I literally believed that she did it. That's how like everyone was just like, you did it, Lindsay. We know. The fact that Danielle let her do that and had the absolute audacity to get mad. Like, seriously, I agree. And why is it wrong for Lindsay to want to clear her name?

Everyone was, like, mad at her last night for that. Right. No, she should continue to have issues with Paige and just for Danielle. And then Danielle, like, I feel a little bad for Danielle because, like, I feel like with these girls, like, she's a little out of her league in terms of level of fighting and just like words. Yeah. And maybe that's why she gravitates towards the guys a little bit. Because it's just like a more casual environment where the bar isn't so high. Like every single one of them.

Paige was slaying the house down. At the end when Paige was defending Ciara, it was just like, I'm deceased on the floor. Wes, I'm sorry, do you even get a season two? Why don't you take your New York Times article and put it in the shredder and then make a duty on it because it means nothing at this point because Paige just eviscerated you so when Paige said to Danielle I don't hate you I just see you so I feel like Paige is just like on this level Lindsay is an alpha she knows how to argue she's on that level Ciara is so strong and so confident who she is and I mean Gabby who is the same way. She doesn't say

much all the time. When she does, you better be listening. You might not agree with her, but then she says her side and you're like, oh no, totally. She's convincing. Just didn't yell. Doesn't possess the vernacular that she thinks she possesses. It's really true. So it was just like wah, wah, wah. Yeah. That Craig thing actually really bothered me. And then for Danielle to say, well, I was waiting for you to bring it up to me.

First of all, we all had a conversation about it, and the time to speak about it was last year at the reunion. But you sat in the corner and cowered and let Lindsay take the fall. So now that Paige knows it was you, it's on Paige to go to you and say something to you about it? What's's to say? I know the truth. Yeah. No, that's the thing. Like Paige doesn't really, that's what she was saying. She doesn't hate Danielle. She doesn't consider Danielle. Yeah. So why would I have a conversation? Like I literally don't even know you. Like it's not someone that Paige cares about enough to even have the conversation. I think

that's what bothers Danielle the most because Paige having this big piece of information about Danielle in the context of a TV show and not sitting her down to like, it's like you're not a relevant cast member enough or not even a relevant friend enough for me to have that conversation. And that probably hurts more than someone disliking you. Yeah. It's like, it's not, it isn't love. It isn't hate.

It's just indifference. And Danielle can be upset about that, but that's what she's doing to Amanda. That's what she did to Amanda this season. Not even like when they were the two left in the conversation, she walked out of the room like doesn't. She has those feelings about other people, too. So you can't even be mad about it. Yeah.

I love that the first person to criticize Kyle Cook is Amanda Badula. Like that to me is one of my favorite qualities about her because she's so level headed and she's so fabulous. And he's just like awful, like just an oaf and really just like like mean too and he's always wrong and that must be tough because you know you want to be a good partner but you also want to be a good reality star and you also want people to know like you're not like that too so I love that when the groomsmen conversation she chimed in at the end was like by the way if you did say and I'm not saying that you did but if you did say I want

Kyle nowhere near this wedding like I, I would agree with you. Yeah. Thank you. Like, that fight was so stupid because she didn't say that. But even if she did, she would have been 1,000% justified. Right. And Andy, like, being like, oh, well, you just said. He tried to say, like, gotcha.

No. First of all, I understood it when they spoke about it on the season. Lindsay never said Kyle can't be this or that. But it was her idea that they'd be flower boys so as to include the summer house boys in the procession so then Carl takes it as Lindsay wanted you to be the flower boy like that is so misleading and such like okay so you didn't understand during the season and now she's explaining it again and and he's like so you did say I'm like am I are we all speaking the same language no it was really that part was

frustrating more clear and it's not even like Carl was contradicting her being like no you said I couldn't have him she never I'm sure she was just like I want like Carl's like all over the place she's probably just like I want you to be happy do what you want just hit nine I also think Lindsay was just like so happy to be getting married because that's something she's like been vocal about wanting and you you can't pick every battle like that and I think she's pretty good about that I think the one thing sticking point for her was like her husband's career which is always going to be something we're going to have to talk about yeah um but everything else she was really letting everything else go this season I know and I think people were like shocked by that but I think she was just like happy even

though the relationship like was not in a great place I think she like really loved Carl and was just happy to be getting married. And yeah they had problems but she wasn't worried about it. Like we were going to fix it. Yeah and like these are our problems of today. And relationships change and anyone's fortune could change on a dime. He could have a great job and then this goes by the wayside. And maybe we could go back to being the friends that we've been for eight years. And I also feel like it's frustrating the reunion in hindsight.

Because everyone's like I'm so glad you didn't get married. And because they're former fiancés like they're saying really nasty things to each other which is like proving why they shouldn't get married right but if any other couple was having like if Kyle and Amanda wound up not getting married we would have had the same conversation at that reunion and he would have been like I'm so glad you guys didn't get married even though they clearly should be married they are married and then if they were no longer together they would be like saying really nasty stuff about that each other and everyone be like you see you shouldn't have gotten married yeah but it's like it's only because you

didn't get married yeah the last quarter of the reunion was so jaw-dropping west we got like an update on what happened between sierra and west and while that was interesting to me the absolute like west from the get-go became just beloved by the audience the New York Times for not really doing much it was very classic like a woman is out here doing so much like could Paige be doing more where's her spread you know and Wes just like shows up and like has a mullet looks a little different and acts funny and it's like America's sweetheart and to reach that level of like universal belovedness that people on that show had been, have been like striving for, for years to squander it so quickly.

I was saying here, like last week, let's see how he does second season. He couldn't even hack a reunion without fumbling. I've never seen such a fumble. And what's so crazy is he like outlined his whole off season to prepare for the season and the show. And so he's clearly very conscious of how he's going to come off and very conscious of the fame and like looking forward to embracing the opportunities,

which there's nothing wrong with that, but that he would be so aware of all of it and then completely shit the bed. No, and Paige said it best. Like the fact that you made real life decisions based on the cameras, like that speaks to like a real, like she didn't say this,

but that's how I feel. And I feel that way about all different, like not even just like a real, like, uh, she didn't say this, but that's how I feel. And I feel that way about all different, like not even just reality stars. Like when you start living your life for how people are going to perceive it, cause you have like a platform or whatever, like you have lost the plot. You have completely given up. And it speaks like a real, I think moral depravity that you care more about what people think than your own happiness. And the fact that he was, and the speech Ciara gave about how she's like a little bit more traditional. She's not looking for notches in her bedpost.

Like sex to her, like is a big deal. It was so groundbreaking. Like, because we live in a culture where it's like, and it's, it was, I think it was born out of like, you know, you shouldn't be shamed for having multiple. And, but then it was like, if you, if you aren't, you know, sexy and out there like that, it's like, what's wrong with you? And there's not really like a platform for women who are more reserved sexually and traditional in that sense.

And for Ciara to be out there looking so sexy and saying these things, I was, I seriously, I was like, I was really moved by it. Yeah. Because nobody says that. It's not like cool to be like virginal. Not that she's a virgin. I also feel like in the culture, it's, it's two extremes. Like either you're a celibate virgin Colton Underwood on the bachelor virgin virgin or you know I'm

liberated and and this you know I'm free and there's not really some people or a lot of role models in the middle who are like yeah I'm modern but I'm traditional in a lot of ways and I thought she made her feelings and herself so understood and I didn't know that about her right I didn't know that about her either but like why would me and it also really bothered me that Andy kept like asked and now we know this about her we know it from the whole season and Andy's asking if they've had sex like this is national tv like this girl clearly it was a huge deal for her like we can all surmise it was disgusting that they did have sex but like to make her talk about it and admit it like just felt so unnecessary and it's like are you not hearing her when she says that she has this

boundary yeah like why why do everyone in the cast is held to this standard of or should be held to the standard of like what uh jesse solomon shouldn't have asked her that night and he shouldn't have but andy like you're the adult in the room why are you asking her we fucking know no it's true like they dated and i was really surprised to hear like the lengths at which they dated like going home to the farm meeting the parents going to a wedding together the brother and I can't believe they did all that even not being like defined as boyfriend or girlfriend yeah and to me like West I feel like maybe it was a clip from like vile files where they were talking about him his him on the season they were like he's like the modern man like this guy who's like fun and this and that.

And he likes, but he won't really commit. And like, and I feel like he is that. And it's such a negative thing. Like he's just there to have fun. Like grow up. Like how old are you? What have you done? Like make a choice.

Like this is a good woman. Like be serious. If he did want to just have fun whatever that's like fine but Ciara sharing that they had that conversation offline uh off camera uh after the horseback riding thing being like listen if you do just want this to be like a summer fling fun whatever just like I'm totally fine with that but like just let me know now like this is the time and he said no no because that's misleading because he still wanted fun with Ciara and so I Jesse Solomon's point of being like he was seeing it out and like you can't just like have fun at

no expense like when there's people involved in people's emotions especially someone who's been very clear about like their boundaries their boundaries and and not wanting to like fall into something that she's not gonna be able to come out of and so just to like do everything for the sake of fun like seriously grow up like we're grown-ups these are people's real lives and like at a certain point relations matter more no and it's like you can't just have fun with someone and fuck around be some my boyfriend girlfriend I don't know what we are for the rest of our lives like yeah you and to do that for five months total is way too long to be with each other every single day and still and meet the parents and go to the wedding and still say well I don't think we were boyfriend

girlfriend like yeah you were yeah no that was weird. When people can't recognize it's like, that's called a relationship. And by the way, it is fun. You think, you think we can't be in a relationship because you want to have fun, but like this fun is the relationship. Yeah. I just feel like it's such a, um, a symbol of like modern dating and how like it's gotten really dark. Yeah. And just everyone's interested in having fun. Like let it's not, everything is supposed to be all fun all the time. No. And the like PR for relationships being boring and bad. No, they're, that's what Sierra was saying. Like it's fun. Yeah. Um, and they could have just done more of this. And so then him

saying that he broke up with her because watch parties for watch parties. I still didn't understand at all what he was saying to you. I think what he was trying to say, I don't know what he means in his heart, why he actually broke up with her, because I think it had more to do with like, I want to have fun. I think he's commitment phobic for sure. But I think what he wanted us to understand is like, he felt like when the show came out, he would be doing like watch parties and stuff. And if he was with sierra then like someone might say oh he had his arm around me at the way because all this like drama for him to be like a public figure in a female space while he has a girlfriend but it's like bravo has been going on this show has been

going on for what seven years bravo's been doing this for 20 15 years like everyone goes to watch parties plenty of people are in relationships and Paige was like you're talking to the wrong audience we all understand Amanda was like Kyle goes to lover boy parties all the time like you're seriously putting the car before the horse bro and if you're really worried about like the watch parties don't go don't go to the watch party when he said watch party I was like I feel sad no I seriously thought I was like do I not understand English like I literally did I know he was speaking but he wasn't saying anything like I was so confused it's really like it's a case study it's one of the biggest fumbles like of the century it's shocking to me and we were just remarking last week it's like we all love West even the New York Times love West and

we were like but why and I remember saying like when he was saying he's still sleeping, like texting other people, like I hate that shit. Just like be with one person. Like, why is that a big deal? And it really, it, that was clearly like a microcosm of what was really going on. Yeah.

And like, I hate. Yeah. And I think we all liked Wes and it was just like Jesse Solomon was saying, he wasn't saying it about Wes, but when Andy was like, why do you think you had a harder time coming into the house and with the viewers?

They didn't, people really didn't like love him until a few episodes in and it was because jesse's just like out here on his own like standing on his own personality by himself and he has a really good and big personality but not even as good and big as west plus west attached himself to someone who is really beloved in the house and among the cast members so of course we like west too yeah i like sierra i like her man yeah no i love jesse Jesse Solomon he's making Sierra happy we're seeing a side of Sierra that we haven't seen in so long especially after the heartbreak of Austin like redemption agreed but we didn't realize like we like Wes because we like Sierra so now when Sierra don't like you we don't like you yeah no and I just loved Paige in that moment yeah because it's hard to verbalize exactly like

when you're so upset and like like, your emotions take over. But she was probably there for all of it. Right. And also, like, I don't think Sierra, like she said, she didn't want him to see her cry. Like, I don't think she wants to give him, like, some people, they think the more you cry and, like, the more you sling accusations and, like, you know,

are sad, that's winning. And people feel that way. But, like, Sierra is the type, strength. She, like, sees strength as being victorious and, like, I'm not going to give him, like, all of my sadness and let him know how much I care. But Paige knows, and, like, Paige will say it, but it isn't a reflection on, like, Ciara.

And I thought the two of them just, like, we needed the facts from Paige and the feelings from Ciara. And, like, I got the picture. And Wes, like, seriously, don't come back next summer. No, and I think it goes without saying that the universal Queenie of the Week is Sierra. Yeah. Like that little monologue was so, it was empowering.

It was like a Rosie the Riveter. Oh, I'm so glad you brought that up, Kyle crying. Was he crying or did he like have an itch in his eye? I think he was tearing. They cut to him twice, like going like this. I think he was tearing. It was emotional. They cut to him twice, like, going like this. I think he was tearing. It was emotional. You know what?

Because, you know, I, like, absolutely loathe Kyle Cook with the intensity of 10,000 Suns. Like, he's on my list of enemies. Two people. Right, right, right. Well, you have to take all that stuff out of it, too, in just recapping the show. But I can't watch the show. Even if he does something on the show that, like, is objectively funny, like, I personally can't see it because I'm blinded by hatred.

Like, deep, deep hatred. From a Spritz stuff? Yeah, of course. Okay. Not even spritz stuff. Saying, calling my husband shady. Like seriously, till the day I die, I will despise you. Why did I start talking about that?

You were crying. Oh, right. So I just see everything he does for like who he really is, which is a piece of shit. And so I see through everything. Like he's not funny. He's not friendly. Like he's an ass. So I don't think he was crying. I don't think he's really capable of like genuine everything. Like, he's not funny. He's not friendly. Like, he's an ass. So I don't think he was crying.

I don't think he's really capable of, like, genuine emotion. Oh, interesting. Also, starting... That's not about him. Got it. Starting off the episode about the mullet and, like, whether or not we're going to cut it. Like, are you fucking serious? How low is the bar for entertainment?

No, and it's like, we have a season here. Like, can you stop? No, it's true. And, like, we have a season here due in no part to Kyle Cook. So, like, why are we starting with Kyle making him the star? It's not about him it's about lindsey it's about sierra less if he cuts his mullet off or not like seriously i don't care don't care but you're right that point that's like harks back to what you were talking about like the true unbridled favoritism from andy at in in these shows like vanderpump rules Charm that have blended casts. Yeah. It's unfair.

It is. And are we doing Wes Weenie? Weenie Wes? Claudia. Yeah. Of course. By the way, it's the four W's. Weenie. No, sorry.

It's the three W's. Weenie Wes watch party. Of the week. Weenie week Wes watch party. The watch party. Oh my God. It was a train wreck for him and i'm so looking forward to part two yeah me as well and i guess that's everything from the like and that's what

you missed on clay it was a train wreck like i loved every minute of it like seriously it was so good yeah oh wait when page no page like page was page and lizzie are the thing or sierra too no okay i don't know who's tied for first but of what your favorites who slayed the re the hardest at the reunion but when page said you're writing in our group chat this is the highest rated season the viewers are loving it like in that moment, I think it really put into perspective how obsessed Wes was with what people thought of him. Now it's, as reality starts, it's normal to have a healthy dose of concern

about how you look and you definitely act a certain way. But he's making decisions in his real life based on that. He's obsessed watching the ratings. Like, okay. No, and she said, and like two people's lives are falling apart and like you're giddy over it. Rest in peace to Wes. watching the ratings like okay no and she said like two people's lives are falling apart and like you're giddy over it rest in peace to west after that where does west go from here because

how can he i feel like he'll come back to the house because like the producers will want him because it will be like him and sierra if he doesn't come back it'll be because he doesn't want to like he seriously got so much he wants to like this is the best thing that's ever happened to me he was in the new But he only wanted was the love. And by the way, up until now, it's been the best thing that's ever happened to him. Yes. Yeah. Starting today.

Yeah. Yeah. I didn't even see, like, what people are saying. What are people saying? Hate. Loser. Yeah. Oh, like, I don't know how he's going to come into the house.

Like, the girls are going to hate him on behalf of Ciara. And they told him that they would hate him maybe the I guess he has Jesse he's gonna come back he's not like he's he's got the bug I can't wait for part two like truly like the fact that he couldn't hide it better his his excitement for the like everyone's excited tell your brother or whatever like yeah no and I forget the word that she used but it just it really it spoke to like a lack of oh spatial awareness like not reading the room like not being emotionally intelligent this is our real life in addition to a reality show for you it's like this part you're playing yeah loved it um that's a wrap on Toast Content Week.

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