The Toast - Wenchalicious Wench: Thursday, February 16th, 2023
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Good morning, Millennials!
Welcome back to The Toast. Happy Thursday. I hope everyone's having a great day.
Congratulations on making it to the latter half of the week. That is no small feat.
Do not underestimate the fact that you did that. You motherfucking did that.
And you know who did that best, with the most grace, and gorgeous red hair, and shiny porcelain skin?
It's my sister, my turd, my Jax.
Turdy, the compliments are just rolling in today.
To what do I owe this pleasure? Do you need a favor? No, wench. I just am feeling lighter than
air. I think the spirit has left the building and I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good. That's so
great to hear. I love that for you on this gorgeous Thursday as we usher in the weekend.
The long weekend.
True.
Ooh, I could use a long weekend.
This is really exciting news.
And I wasn't planning on doing anything.
I like, you know, the holiday kind of snuck up on me.
I love to take advantage of a three-day weekend.
But I decided this morning that Ben and I are going to take a trip to Turdsville, USA.
Oh, how exciting. I heard it's beautiful this time of year.
I know. It's kind of like this up-and-coming hotspot travel destination.
And I'm really excited.
That's so exciting. Are you actually going anywhere?
No.
I know. Like, the holiday just holiday just like got away from me.
And to be honest, like I have such a busy week next week.
And I feel like if I went away, like I'd just be tired.
Yeah.
That you need a vacation from your vacation.
Right.
So no, I'm not doing anything.
Presidents, it's just like it's not long enough.
It's not long enough.
Oh, maybe I should do like a staycation yeah because that's like a cool thing about living in Florida like
there are so many hotels and resorts and fun places for a vacation I'm gonna look into it I
really like need except this a vacation with a baby is just not a vacation so true we were just
talking about that about a trip that we want to take.
And I was like, the thing is, if we bring Harry, it won't be fun.
And if we don't bring Harry, it won't be fun.
So like, what am I supposed to do?
You can leave Harry with me.
Fly somewhere that's, you know, New York is on the way.
Drop him and you'll feel so good.
He'll be totally fine in my care.
It's not about me worried about his care.
It's me about me missing him.
Like, what am I doing here without Harry?
You need to get over that.
You need to get over that.
He needs his mommy and his mommy needs him.
He needs his auntie.
Also, you would be going on the trip with me, wenchelish.
Wenchelish.
Wenchelicious wench.
Wenchelicious definition.
Make the boys go loco. That's so truealicious definition, make the boys go loco.
That's so true.
We're constantly making the boys go loco with this show.
Yeah, like actually we're making the husbands go insane.
Speaking of, I had a small update from yesterday.
The first is I did get February 15th red roses.
They arrived at approximately 2 o'clock yesterday.
And it was great.
I loved my daylight card flowers and the card said like February 15th is so much better than February 14th like Ben was trying to
poke fun I appreciate the effort but I'm just considering this year a wash yeah and we'll try
again next year except you had a lovely dinner and you went to a show yeah that's true that's
true because I because I planned it yeah yeah yeah but I mean didn't we learn from things our husbands do that annoy us that if you just if you want something
done right you just gotta do it yourself we have yeah we have to have no expectations and then the
second update was from yesterday's episode when we texted Ben whether he knew who Maverick was
he did answer me shortly after we wrapped and he said your old boyfriend question mark which is definitely like an over you know simplification no no it's like an over dramatic like we were we were in the
seventh grade we were like never not once boyfriend or girlfriend like I just like was obsessed um
so like I think if he like you know knew I was referring to him as my boyfriend he would be like
that's weird because we were never boyfriend and girlfriend chill but he got it right that's so funny I thought it was
an oversimplification like you're the one that got away oh you're a boyfriend for you it's an
oversimplification yeah for maverick it's extremely dramatic right right by the way that wench from my seventh grade class totally random
and I don't know the word dramatic just triggered me did you hear that rumor that ABC is like
looking to maybe bring back Chris Harrison for The Bachelor because it's like The Bachelor is
like floundering I don't know if that rumor is even remotely true but I did see it somewhere
no I haven't heard anything of the sort. Isn't that crazy? That is crazy.
Do you think that's possible?
I think if Chris Harrison were to accept it,
like I think that would be losery of him.
And I think if The Bachelor were to actually offer it,
I think that would be losery of them.
Yeah, like admitting that they're big losers and that they messed up.
No, but like they fired him to, you know,
like as performative allyship, like cancel culture.
We didn't like what you said.
We're firing you.
Two years later, we're bringing you back.
That's performative.
That's not real fucking, like you don't care.
You just did it because people wanted you to.
Yeah, that's why I don't think it's true.
I don't think it's true either.
But like it wasn't from like that unreliable of a source
where I saw it.
It seemed like a decently respectable outlet. don't remember which one do you think he would
accept I don't know I don't I'd have to know how his podcast is doing like you can make a lot of
money in podcasting if anyone gives a shit so if people are listening and he's like making money
he doesn't have to deal with all that maybe he'd just be happy with this more simple life yeah and
maybe it's like a sinking ship no but also no but like he is the bachelor ship you know like and that's why his podcast like
if it's not about the bachelor like what does he have opinions on I don't know that's why we were
saying when we were first reported it like he needs to have a beat fishing right right see fishing
what farming whatever he wants to go in on.
But I just would say like that would be a situation for me where it's like.
I have scruples, I have dignity, you can go fuck yourself.
Yeah, I don't know if he's a scrupled person, but to be honest, I think either way, like the franchise, even if Chris Harrison were to come back, I think the franchise is at a point
where it's like it's past the point of no return, like it's on its its way down and I don't know if you want to be the captain of a sinking
ship I think anything could happen anything could happen anything could happen it has so much like
recognizability there are all these other dating shows that say they're the new bachelor it's like
still the standard yeah why can't we turn this ship around yeah I guess but not with like the
way the current leadership you know but they don't even know what they need to change things and can we turn this ship around? Yeah, I guess. But not with like the way,
the current leadership, you know,
but they don't even know
what they need to change things.
And again, it could be totally untrue
and this conversation could be irrelevant,
but I thought it was worth discussing
here at The Toast.
Yeah, because it certainly
wasn't going to be a story.
No, no.
But we are going to be talking
about Kelly Ripa,
which, you know,
we've got some not so mindless news today
about Kelly, which is different.
It's new
yeah we're gonna be talking about her in a meaningful way which is something I'm just
gonna have to like kind of rewire my brain for because I'm not used to that yeah but she is
always at the center of like morning show drama so that we're used to no it's true actually either
we're talking about the most like moronic mindless thing when it comes to Kelly or there's like major news at her show
yeah like she did something like incredibly savage right I mean for me like I will always
you can add it to this list of my favorite stories like I think that like the way she
acted with the whole Michael Strahan thing like I never looked at her the same yeah like to me she
was such an entitled spoiled brat during that whole thing and so not supportive of someone who should have been her friend
and who actually did a great job on her show.
I really didn't like that.
I stand with Michael Strahan.
And she's never even offered to give her side of things,
which probably just means that there is no side to say
other than, like, I was being a brat.
And by the way, when she didn't show up for work after the Michael Strahan the Michael Strahan thing for a few days, she came back and gave like a monologue of what she said.
She was like, you know, she basically said, yeah, I threw a tantrum, but I've been doing this for 20 years and I felt like I was entitled to.
And it's like, OK, take a seat.
Maybe it's in her book.
Maybe she didn't talk about it in her book.
Maybe.
Yeah, that's true.
But I feel like there would have been like a million press articles written about it because people love to like take excerpts from celebrity memoirs and just like spoil the most juicy parts. And there wasn't.
No, not that I recall seeing, but I definitely was not like looking at her excerpt.
Looking for it. Yeah, yeah. So true.
So.
That's what we'll get into today.
That's what we will get into.
While I plan my trip to Turdsville, USA. I'm really excited.
What's up with you?
Not too much.
My back is still out.
So that's weird.
Don't you think that's weird?
Yeah.
It's like a little sus, don't you think?
Okay, like who are we blaming, you know?
I don't know.
I don't know who or what to blame.
And in the early days, like when I would sleep,
I would wake up feeling better.
And now it's getting worse in my sleep.
What the fuck's that about?
Yeah, no, I mean,
I'm all on board to like hop onto a conspiracy theory
and blame someone,
but you got to provide some ideas.
I don't have a theory yet.
Okay, because it's suspicious for sure.
It's super suspicious.
Tomorrow will be one week.
That's weird.
I think it's just mama hood, you know?
So true.
So it's Harry's fault.
Like you can never fully recover from a broken back
because you have to keep bending down.
Yeah.
And getting this little slippery seal.
So I don't want to say it's Harry's fault
because absolutely nothing on the planet
will ever in perpetuity be Harry's fault.
I want to say it's Zach's fault for getting you
pregnant. I love that. Love that. One of my favorite activities, I would say maybe one of
my talents is finding a way to blame literally anything on Ben. Yesterday, Theo, before his,
we were both getting ready for work and I was like, damn, I haven't seen Theo in a while.
And I go, and he's like,
eaten a whole bag of Valentine's Day candy.
What kind of candy?
Chocolate?
I don't know.
The bag was gone.
Like, the bag and the candy.
Like, not a trace.
No, the bag, the cellophane was there,
but it was completely empty.
So there was not a trace.
I was like sniffing it, but it smelled like Theo's breath.
I do not know what it was.
Who bought it? So it was a gift from Ben's mom she left us like a little like cute little gift bag with our doorman on Valentine's Day we did like a bottle of champagne and little
chocolates it was so sweet sounds like you had like a pop in Valentine's Day by the way
yeah no it was kind of great like every box was checked for Valentine. Except for men, which is the only one that matters.
But like you built your own Valentine's Day.
Like you had champagne, you had candy, you had deliveries, you had concert, you had dinner.
Like so when the bag, when the doorman brought up the bag, I did take it and leave it on top of this Amazon return that was on the floor.
So like it was, you know, pretty much my fault.
But I was like so mad and like so flustered and running late for work.
I just like had to figure out a way for it to be Ben's fault.
And I realized like I'm so toxic.
Yeah.
But you can't be expected to think of everything.
No.
Like what I have to plan Valentine's Day and make sure Theo doesn't get into the chocolate.
Like I can't do everything in this house. he had chocolate it was chocolate I don't know
I don't know but he was fine so thank god damn go with Theo big day big day for Theo yeah on the
one hand like it's always sad and scary when these boys get into things that they shouldn't
but on the other hand like I'm happy for them no as long as it's not something toxic like I'll reprimand
but I'm like you know what good for you.
Harry threw his brother a whole piece of chicken last night.
Oh my did Bruno love it?
Yeah but he ate it so quickly I don't even think he tasted it.
That's the thing with these dogs they eat so fast
because they're so afraid we're gonna yell at them
that they don't even take time to savor.
Yeah to like if I had known you were gonna have a slice of chicken
like I should have put it in your bowl a little garnish yeah warmed it up totally um so yeah Theo had probably a better
valentine's day than all of us combined for sure as he should as he should as he should as he should
because he's kind of like asexual and he's like not interested in partnership it's not that Theo's asexual I think
he has a really really hard time when it comes to looking for a partner finding someone who's on his
intellectual level yeah but I feel like he doesn't even try it's he's a little jaded and like he just
thinks that person's not out there but his mentality is definitely why bother but I think he could
bother I think he could find someone well maybe you should talk to him about it.
I will.
Next time I see him, I'll give him a pep talk.
A pep talk.
I'm the love guru.
You decided to wear your bar sweater today because there's been enough days since the last time you wore it?
It was four days of holding out.
I put my hair in like a low bun today.
So I just figured the bar.
No, the low bun is a perfect complement to the bar right because you don't want a lot
of hair it's a big sweater you got big hair you're just big all around 100 but if i'm sleek
and then i'm like with my big sweater i'm just so sleek yeah they call them that like the clean
girl aesthetic like we're just so like clean and cute are they still saying that on the talk
they they are not as much as they used to, but they are. We actually have
a story today, a heartwarming TikTok story that warmed my heart so warmly that I need to share
with the class. So you know what? Let's dive in, Jax. I love that segue. Without further ado about
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Our first story, some exciting news. Rihanna and family are on the cover of British Vogue. Rihanna
graced the cover with her partner A$AP Rocky
and their baby, who they call Baby.
We don't know his name.
She's not sharing his name, but he is referred to as Baby.
She's talking about motherhood, Super Bowl, new music, baby clothes.
She really, you know, it's a glowing interview that she gave.
And she really seems pretty open in terms of what she was willing
to talk about uh I just want to say like kind of obsessed with the name baby for a baby like it's
kind of I know the interviewer said like everyone on this uh on her team and the parents like
everyone calls him baby so much that she actually started to wonder if his name is baby oh that's
actually really funny and I kind of like like that name it's like only something Rihanna could
pull off but like it's cool.
Yeah, it is cool.
The pictures from the shoot are gorgeous, of course.
Yeah, I mean, Baby stole the show.
He's so cute.
He's so cute.
And the photos were gorgeous.
And what I've learned in the last like week
from just getting so much Rihanna content
is like I'm kind of obsessed with A$AP Rocky like
the way he's like such a supportive partner in the sense of like he's like in the background of
the photos it's like not about him and I think a lot of guys especially guys who are in the
spotlight themselves he's like a very accomplished rapper would maybe feel weird and like ego and it
just feels like he's so down to support his girl. And like, I'm obsessed. And that's what Olivia Wilde was like trying to say,
but like gave us all the ick.
But she's right.
Like it's every time I like see something about him
as it pertains to her, I like love him.
I agree.
I was looking at pictures,
like in one of the write-ups about the interview
and it's all pictures of her throughout her pregnancy.
And like, she's obviously like the star, the bump.
They went to a lot of events together.
And it's like crazy how he was like always by her side when you would expect like when Rihanna shows up anywhere and especially
like pregnant with her belly out like it's gonna be all about Rihanna but like they really I feel
like more than ever are just a united front when it comes they're a family they're a family and I
think it's really really sweet to see and also she talks about how he's such a good dad and how
baby is obsessed with him and she was like I gave birth to you like what are you doing um so disrespectful so disrespectful
but she feels as though like sons and fathers like that's the bond which is in a way is true
because she was like you know at the end of the day the validation that they care about is like
from their father but little boys and their mommies little boys and their mommies oh and
little boys and their aunties of course so true and little boys and their aunties, of course. So true. She didn't mention any aunties for baby, though.
Maybe she wants to just protect the aunties, you know, privacy at this time.
Yeah, and like one thing at a time.
Like we're debuting as a family.
He'll have his aunties right up in a later date.
She looked gorgeous.
British Vogue is also like such a classy move.
Something about British Vogue is like so much more elevated than American Vogue.
I think American Vogue, at least for me, like feels very like commercial now.
And like, I don't know, it doesn't feel like elite or like exclusionary.
I can't explain it.
Like fashion is supposed to like make you feel bad about yourself.
And like British Vogue does.
Yeah.
I think it's just the difference between like Anna Wintour and like what she chooses.
And I feel like a lot of the time she's behind.
And so by the time something makes it to her cover, it's oh this isn't this doesn't feel fresh or new or innovative and
Edward Enifel is just like on the cusp. I also think from like a personal relationship standpoint
so many celebrities like love Edward and they're like always spotted with him personally and like
privately and I feel like they just fear Anna Wintour and they don't like really like her on
a personal level or like they just want to remain in her good graces. Yeah like they just fear Anna Wintour and they don't like really like her on a
personal level or like they just want to remain in her good graces. Yeah like they're good with her
and everyone wants to be good with her but I don't know that anyone would say like I love her like
we have this relationship like we we talk you know she's my girl. I agree with that. I think like
Edward gets like so many dinner party invitations he's overwhelmed. I I think Anna does too, but they're invited for different reasons.
You always invite people to a dinner party.
This person's funny.
This person I like.
Like this person I don't want to piss off.
And it's like a status thing.
Yeah, yeah.
So I think like the reputation
over the last few years of British Vogue,
I mean, Nicola Peltz and what's his name?
Their wedding exclusive was British Vogue.
They kind of just like get
the best exclusives especially for things that like really should be like Rihanna did the American
Super Bowl they got married in America in Palm Beach like for big American moments I feel like
British Vogue is like kind of like always like stealing the exclusive I wonder if Anna Wintour
hates Edward I feel like no I wonder if like the Vogue offices are work waking over this because
this should have been their story like it is a lot about the Super Bowl and they're trying to like they didn't like you know over
explain the Super Bowl but like it was clear that it wasn't just for an American audience.
No they had to give context and like honestly the fact that she did like the greatest American
music event of the year and gave the exclusive to British Vogue is crazy, but it's really indicative of how American Vogue
is like not that like fab anymore.
No, no.
And it's rare that we get a cover
that we're just like stunned by
and we're shocked that they even got it.
It's always someone who's just, you know,
like they're a Met Gala chair.
Right, someone who's like of the moment right now
in like a really elite circle that like, cool.
Cool.
Yeah, but this was a moment and she looked beautiful. Someone who's like of the moment right now in like a really elite circle that like, cool. Cool. Yeah.
But this was, this was a moment and she looked beautiful.
The baby is so cute.
And like ASAP Rocky, like it's giving, it's like giving daddy vibes.
Like I'm kind of obsessed.
Yeah.
Really cute.
So she had some really great quotes, especially about motherhood.
Cause she's just like all in on being a mom.
Also the interviewer at the time didn't know that she was pregnant.
Um, but she
talked about like how her life has changed the first roller coaster month she said it's everything
you really don't remember life before that's the craziest thing ever you literally try to remember
it and there are photos of my life before but the feeling the desires the things that you enjoy
everything you just don't identify with it because you don't even allow yourself mentally to get that far because it doesn't matter.
Which is like so true.
I feel like everything that used to be like a priority for me is just like irrelevant now.
And that's how I like it.
Mm hmm.
You know.
Yeah.
So she also talks about, you know, the baby clothes and that it's not cool enough for these babies.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
And that she like
kind of designs clothes for baby of course leading to you know maybe some sort of like
fenty baby fenty kids path in the future um i like baby clothes i think they're cute i just
want to say i think they're cute too and i feel like kim tried to do that like she had kids and
was like this sucks and they did like that kids supply thing and it's like the kids clothes have been around for so long like it works and they're
pretty much disposable because kids are always shitting and vomiting in them yeah it's okay I
don't think you need to reinvent the wheel like maybe a capsule collection sure yeah but like I
like like she was saying how she puts like baby in kilts and like how she wants, you know, just like more avant-garde designs.
But like, I like the ease of a romper.
That's an unrelatable.
That's a really not relatable thing for her to say.
Because like, the fuck?
Yeah, but it does seem like she's very hands on.
So it's like, I mean, actually the ease of a kilt, it does sound pretty.
You just whip it open.
Yeah, I guess.
I don't know. she might be onto something
should we start putting harry in kilts let me search a baby kilt yeah we'll get him like a
mini bagpipe i mean he could have red hair one day like we just are kind of like stereotyping him
true but no but like he doesn't have to have a bagpipe to have a kilt like you just wear a kilt is it a kilt like an irish garment yeah but it's
also like a skirt yeah i guess it it's or no it's it's all yeah it's like a garment you know
it's like a shape of clothing it's like skirt maybe maybe it's only a kilt if it has plaid
i'll google it let's see the definition i think it's a kilt if it's a skirt that uh
wraps around yeah a kilt is a garment resembling a wraparound knee-length skirt made of 12
woven worsted wool with heavy pleats and the sides and back are traditionally our tartan pattern
heavily pleated that's so kilt that's so kill these kilts are cool they're kilting it
lol um overall this was a win for everyone like everyone came out looking great british
vogue rihanna asap baby for us because we got pics we got you know insight into like what it's
been like for her as a mama and just you you know, new music, of course, like the interviewer
asked. And she said, uh, pretty much like it's impossible to tap her last album, Auntie. And
every time she like, you know, finds a song or whatever, like, it's just not going to be better.
So she's not going to put out something worse then, but she really does want to put out new
music. And she's written in like recorded songs over the years since Auntie, but like now she
listens to them and she's like, they just not good enough okay well we appreciate a queen
with a high bar and not just like doing a money grab right she said like she wants it to be this
year i know but like now she's pregnant so that might be tough yeah she got a lot on her plate
like bra bra bra gorgeous so that was fun for everyone yesterday.
And it's just a month of Rihanna.
I know.
I'm loving it.
I hope she doesn't go away.
You know, she's so private.
We get nothing from her.
And now we're going on two weeks of just endless Rihanna.
Yeah.
I'm overwhelmed.
I know.
We're not used to it.
I know.
It's exciting.
Are you ready for our next story?
Mm-hmm.
Someone else who's overwhelming sometimes
kelly ripa will now be joined by her husband marcos suelos permanently as ryan seacrest is
departing live with kelly and formerly ryan ryan seacrest is saying goodbye to live with kelly and
ryan and his replacement is someone very familiar to co-host kelly ripa on thursday the longtime
broadcaster who joined the abc show in 2017 announced his exit from the series with plans to move back to the West Coast this spring ahead
of the American. Ryan has been doing this since 2017 now. Yeah. Six years. That Michael Strahan
thing was six years ago. Yeah, that makes that feels right. Oh, my God. It does not feel right
to me. That's the Michael Strahan thing feels like a long time ago. It feels like Ryan joined semi recently,
but you know,
time flies.
Plus there was like COVID and that was just a dry suck.
Right.
Right.
It's technically been three years,
but like,
it feels like,
I don't know,
a billion.
I guess it's not like suspicious that he's leaving.
Like doing it for six years is enough time.
I don't feel suspicious about him leaving.
I don't,
because I feel like since the day he took the job, was unsustainable it's not something that could go on forever
especially while he did his LA show he does American Idol he's so LA based like he's you know
uh Kiss FM like yeah unless he was ever gonna leave that this couldn't be his full-time thing
and if he wanted to be like the New York guy um so I'm not sus. I think he just kind of probably burned out
and had to ultimately make a choice.
He announced his exit from the series
with plans to move back to the West Coast this spring
ahead of the American Idol live shows in LA.
In his departure, Seacrest will be permanently replaced
with actor Mark Consuelos, Kelly Ripa's husband.
The show will officially be rebranded
as Live with Kelly and Mark.
He said, Seacrest said,
it was a tough, tough decision, but a bittersweet one.
He honored his bond with Kelly.
He said, working alongside Kelly over the past six years has been a dream job and one
of the highlights of my career.
She's been an amazing partner, friend, and confidant.
And although we will always be a part of each other's lives, I will miss our mornings together.
OK, I mean, I agree.
Him leaving is not sus. It was never a sustainable thing for him he has too much
going on and actually I'm relieved that he's taking something off his plate like man needs
to slow down and take a nap remember when he had a stroke like live on air yeah so I think it's for
the best now let's talk about the replacement I want to say one thing I'm so glad that he's leaving
and a replacement has been announced.
Because remember, there was like months of Kelly and Blake, Kelly and Andy, Carrie and
Andy, Jerry O'Connell.
Right.
Like everyone was a rotating thing.
And none of us can do that again.
Yeah.
I'm glad that they made a choice.
I love choices.
And a choice was made.
And it was they already have a plan.
They're not just like it's not Jeopardy.
That's what I was just about to bring up. for that I am grateful I agree but in terms of selection
what are your thoughts nepo husband yeah I just like I don't know it's like an uninspired choice
it felt like she wanted a way to have a guarantee that the next person wouldn't leave and when it's your
husband they literally can't and I don't think Mark and Spalos is like that much going on
outside of just you know. She's like Hiram Lodge is a busy man. But that show is ending. Oh that's so true.
Like I don't think he has a ton going on so I don't think it's gonna be a case like Ryan where
he has to choose between so many projects and they're married. So it's a good choice in that sense because I'm sure she's over the revolving
door just as much as we are. And I'm sure they have good chemistry. I don't know something about
this just feels kind of lame. Yeah, it does feel kind of lame, but I think it's a good choice in
the sense that like now this is Kelly's show and now it will stay Kelly's show. Like, yeah,
I don't see unless he's a disaster
I don't see him ever being off the show and now like they can do this forever but it's also like
I feel like for a lot of people this live show was a stepping stone yeah but for Kelly it isn't
but I guess for Regis it wasn't either it was his show and maybe Kelly like loves doing this
or there's no other job that she'd rather be doing except for the one that Michael Strahan got
and so now she's solidifying it like this is my show I'm parking myself here it's like the toes
kind of you know now there's like yeah it's a job for life yeah I think like she's made it clear over the last few years like this is not a
stepping stone for her but I think she hated the idea of other people using it as a stepping stone
for them Michael Strahan yes and I don't think she liked it always being like Kelly and blank
and who's is it bigger is it smaller if it's if it's bigger they overshadow her if they're smaller
they might get bigger than her right and you know what this like it's an industry of egos I don't think it's unnatural to feel that way no so I think like
this is a really safe selection in terms of keeping Kelly happy and I feel like I just imagine she's
not like a super you know easy person to like always keep happy yeah I think on its face yes
but I think the idea of working with your husband every day
in a job that you excel at and is new for him,
like I think there's going to be some fights behind the scenes.
Well, he has co-hosted many times.
So I think there's like a little bit of experience there.
This reminds me of like you and Ben.
Like you and Ben co-host sometimes and it's fun.
Could you do this job with him every day?
No, no, no, no, no.
There's nobody I could do this job with except for you. Ohd i set you up for that but it warms my heart bless you
she sneezed on it it's true so it's so fucking true so fucking true um so yeah i think this is
gonna put like i think on the one hand it's gonna be good for their marriage like they both now
have solid working careers footing yeah um
but on the other hand like it's a lot of time to spend with your partner yeah it's so no it's true
and I don't know from uh I don't know what the audience thinks of him you know yeah I think they
like him I think he's likable I think he's just like her you know like they just are I just think
of them in like their Instagram presence and you you know, they're like goofy, relatable parents, but also famous.
Yeah.
They've been married a really long time.
I think people have a lot of respect for their relationship.
So I think going into it, it's all good.
Yeah.
We'll see.
What if things get tense?
Like I'm stressed.
No, no.
You know, what if he makes a bad joke and like, you know.
And it's live.
Yeah.
No, totally.
It's really tough to work that close with a partner.
It really is.
Especially like it's Kelly's show.
It's not like they're coming into this like.
As equals.
Sonny and Cher.
No, that's so true.
Even Sonny and Cher wasn't like an equal.
It was like the Cher show.
Yeah.
No, you're right.
Like it's pre, like the dynamic is pre-established.
She's very much like a guest.
And ego is a very real thing in a job like this.
So you're right.
Yeah.
I wish them all the luck in the world.
And I'm happy for Kelly that like, you know, the ship is afloat.
And it's going to stay like this for a while.
And I'm happy for Kelly that her Google search results are now like a bit more mindful at least for the time
being. No and like this is real news. Yeah thank you Kelly for all the work you do. Yeah. Okay are
you ready for our next story? Yeah. Something that you were sharing with me yesterday. Meghan Markle's
2014 blog post about Kate Middleton's wedding has resurfaced.
A blog post allegedly from her now shuttered lifestyle website, The Tig, reveals that Meghan
knew who the royal family was and wasn't impressed with the chatter around Princess Kate despite
previous protestations. So Meghan Qualley claimed during an interview after her engagement with
Prince Harry in 2017 that she didn't know much about her fiance or his family before she met him. However, in the blog post from 2014, which was written when she was an actress
on Suits, she reportedly revealed her feelings about princesses and royal weddings. The now
Duchess of Sussex wrote that she was tired of hearing the quote endless conversation around
the royal nuptials of quote Princess Kate to Prince William. The alleged blog written two
years before she met now-husband Prince Harry,
explains that she was unlike most little girls who dream of being princesses
and instead was focused on She-Ra, princess of power.
She wrote, quote,
For those of you unfamiliar with the 80s cartoon reference,
She-Ra is the twin sister of He-Man
and a sword-wielding royal rebel known for her strength.
We're definitely not talking
about Cinderella here. Meghan then noted many adult women seem to hold on to their childish
dream of becoming a princess. Quote, grown women seem to retain this childhood fantasy. Just look
at the pomp and circumstance surrounding the royal wedding and endless conversation about Princess
Kate. Okay, this blog post, just like content-wise has such pick me energy, like putting other women down because like they like want a fairy tale.
Like, okay, rude.
So like just on its face, like even if she didn't, you know, end up being a princess and a duchess, like it's just like I would read this and roll my eyes.
Like don't yuck other people's yums and like put other women down because like you are like, you know, I want to be the She-Ra.
Like, cool.
We don't care.
So this is just like an
article written by someone I would hate like if I just met them at the time yeah and then the sheer
fact that she did go on to marry a prince is like obviously not lost on like the irony of it all
yeah well so Daily Mail published this and I think that they did it to like make her look like a
hypocrite like oh yeah you knew who the royal family was and you said you didn't okay but like
I don't think she's
I don't think this makes her hypocrite I actually think this is very in line with everything she
said like she of course knew who the royal family was first of all she's like an educated woman
she doesn't live under a rock like but no maybe she didn't like follow them and I do believe
that but like she knew who the royal family was and she knew there was a royal wedding at one
time and she was a right culture writer for her one time and she was a culture writer for her blog.
And so she was commenting on the culture.
Like,
I don't think that that's so crazy.
Me neither.
Um,
but I think it's not like a gotcha moment.
I agreed in the way that they think that it is.
And I do think that like,
actually her stance on like,
I roll at princess does kind of explain why she's not impressed by you know the role that
she married into and and didn't like care or need for any of that and instead like being a powerful
woman which is what you know she's doing now she ra is more important to her so I actually think
like this is congruous yes I agree it all tracks but it does
make me roll my eyes oh yeah I I don't care to know about She-Ra brother of He-Man yeah no it's
just like oh my god like it's it's like it's like leave everyone alone you know like I would just if
I was writing an article on the same topic I would have literally the opposite thesis um but I agree if
anything I think it instead of pointing out some sort of hypocrisy I think it actually points to
like a a consistency in her world view yeah and like a disdain for all of the pomp and circumstance
and royalty and I'm sure as she got to know Harry she probably came to like respect more of it but
like she's not a
little girl who dreamed of being a princess right and it's like she's making that her personality
and putting down other girls who did and that makes me roll my eyes but also like this blog
post is from 10 years ago yeah so true it's like evaluating it as if she wrote it today
it's just like not fair agreed and it goes against everything i believe in to bring up some things
people wrote many many years ago um and trying to fit it into the world we live in now it's
irrelevant and you know what as judge proceeding over this episode i'm having this evidence thrown
out i agree and i don't know right it did what they thought it it same is for same
okay and when I first saw it I was like oh my god you read it and it's like yes
nothing here and it could be like so much worse like she couldn't I got
actually talked crap or she could have been like guffawing over how beautiful
was the chat you know agreed it's
it could have been so much worse so much worse it's a nothing burger no and you know what it
shows it shows she was scrupled then and she's scrupled now no and um it's just a titillating
headline like that she had a blog post about the royal wedding but like she really didn't she had a blog post about the royal wedding, but like she really didn't. She had a blog post about female power or whatever.
Uh-huh, she raw.
She raw.
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Our next story is some good news coming out of TikTok.
A Vermont man's book becomes a bestseller 10 years after its release, thanks to his daughter's TikTok.
10 years after its release, thanks to his daughter's TikTok.
Lloyd Devereaux Richards is now a best-selling author more than a decade after publishing his first novel,
a thriller titled Stone Maidens.
But the road to publishing success was an arduous one
for the 74-year-old father of three from Vermont
until his daughter hatched a plan to get his book the attention
she felt it deserved.
Stone Maidens was published by Thomas & Mercer in November 2012,
about 14 years after Lloyd began writing the book, the paper reported.
The book was reportedly inspired by a series of crimes that occurred in the mid-1970s
while he attended law school at Indiana University.
Unfortunately, Stone Maidens did not gain much traction among readers when it was initially released.
But his 40-year-old daughter wasn't about to give up on her father's dream.
Earlier this month
Marguerite Richards made the decision to start a TikTok account on her father's behalf with the
goal of promoting his novel she said it was such a great book and I knew how important it was to him
I thought maybe it's just because nobody knows about the book he was skeptical at the time but
it turns out that she was right she created a TikTok with her father's story saying, you know, how it was like videos of him
showing like how he worked 14 years to write this book
while also working a full-time job
and providing for his kids.
He published it and it didn't have that many sales
or anything like let's help him get where he needs to go.
The TikTok has been viewed more than 43 million times
and has received more than 9 million likes.
And now it is like a number
one bestseller on Amazon under thrillers and it's like number seven overall and this man's a star
this is just you never every now and then like social media really does its thing and this
actually happens quite a lot on TikTok um so this is like a formula the girl was following
because I've seen quite a few you know this girl over COVID she was like my dad is like a formula the girl was following because I've seen quite a few, you know,
this girl over COVID, she was like, my dad is like a English teacher and he is hosting like these
virtual poetry lessons, like to teach people how to write poetry. And only one person showed up,
like, can we get more people? And then he had like a thousand people, like there's so many cute
stories like this, or like, you know, my mom spent her whole life wanting to to open her own restaurant now she has her own taco shop and like it's opening day nobody
came and there's a line around the corner now like so it's this is a thing that happens on
TikTok that's so sweet and it's you know things you know parent kids doing things for their parents
and it's it's really beautiful and it's like an emotional thing. And this is an amazing story.
An amazing story.
And I've heard the book is pretty good.
You should read it.
Yeah, no, I think we should pick it for the redheads.
I was just looking at it on Goodreads.
It now has, it has 4.04 stars, 526 ratings.
So I guess not everyone who's bought it so far has read it.
But I'm there.
I kind of do want to read it.
Like I want to be a part of this good news.
I know it's so, it's so sweet.
It's so precious and it's so pure.
It's so precious.
It's so pure.
And it really shows how like the internet really can be good.
If we didn't all just like sit around fighting about like pronouns,
like we could just like be good.
Yeah. Until they find his old tweets oh you're so right until they find until someone reads the book and finds a
problematic passage oh right right no you're so right this guy like with especially it was written
12 years ago what the internet giveth yikes the internet giveth the internet taketh away yeah that's like
remember that bud weiser that beer guy what did that guy do something in idaho he was raising
money with beer yes yeah a lot of money for a good cause but then he had old tweets what is
going on in your house oh you can hear can hear that. Some furniture is being moved downstairs. I'm really excited about it.
But it is really loud.
Yeah.
My deepest apologies.
Okay.
But I'll post a picture later so everyone can be excited about what's happening.
So it'll be worth it.
Yeah, yeah.
Check my IG at Jackie Oshry.
I wrote a book 14 years ago and it didn't get sales that I wanted.
Please, please go get it.
It's called Girl With No Job.
Yeah, bitch.
Rude. Girl With No Job. Crazy, beautiful. I have an Instagram. They're a sponsor. Available anywhere you get books. Just kidding. New York Times bestseller. that I wanted please please go get it it's called girl with no job yeah bitch rude girl in the job
crazy beautiful I have an instagram thirst monster available just kidding new york times bestseller
um also what reminds me of the internet just not being able to accept something good for what it is
mr beast we never did that as a story oh yeah but yeah. But that was fucking crazy. Yeah. Can you give me the rundown on what the backlash was for him?
OK, I feel like you would know just as well as me because I just saw like bits and pieces.
But so Mr. Beast, who's a creator who like does a lot of goodwill creating, right?
Like charity.
He's always just giving away money to not like charities, obviously charities, but just
like people in need.
Yes.
And he's like the number one person on youtube right
yeah he's huge huge and so he found like he a thousand people who are blind he paid for their
surgeries to cure blindness because it's like a really expensive surgery but there is a surgery
that exists that can make the blind see so we did that for a thousand people and did a video and it
was like so
beautiful.
But then there's backlash saying that like the whole deed was inherently
ableist.
Yeah.
And so I just want to,
for like kind of like my last will and testament,
like if I do ever go blind,
like I get me the surgery.
Okay.
You want to see again?
Yeah.
And maybe that makes me ableist,
but I just can't with these words anymore. I really can't. These labels like ableist. You want to see again. Yeah. And maybe that makes me ableist. But I just can't with these words anymore.
I really can't.
These labels like ableist.
You want to know why?
Because there are things out there that really are terribly ableist and terribly transphobic
and terribly racist and terribly homophobic and terribly anti-Semitic.
And we're playing fast and loose with these terms that they're losing their meaning.
Because I feel like, especially on the internet, people really try to have nuanced conversations.
And that never works out.
And we just end up throwing a label at them.
Like, well, you're homophobic.
And I don't think, I think more often than not, that person isn't the word.
And we're using these words too much that they've lost all meaning.
And I think, you know, I think we're doing ourselves a diss much that they've lost all meaning.
And I think, you know, I think we're doing ourselves a disservice.
Like I can't anymore with just the way we just call everyone a word because they try to have like a nuanced conversation.
And maybe what they say is like a little outside the lines of what PC culture is.
But PC culture has like the norm now is like what used to be the fringe.
The norm is abnormal. Right. So it's like the norm is now what used used to be the fringe the norm is abnormal right so it's like the
norm is now what used to be like the fringe of the culture so it's impossible to have nuanced
conversations without just being labeled as something and it's so toxic because we can't talk
right and I do think like privately people have like real conversations with one another but then
it's like publicly like no one wants to fucking go there because like why do you
want your life ruined?
Because you get thrown a label at you.
So everyone just sort of like backs off.
But then like the the most extreme.
Becomes the norm.
The only ones that are that are being hurt.
Becomes the norm.
Yeah.
So I'm just like over it.
Like I really am.
Bring back conversations.
Yeah.
Also like Mr. Beast helping a thousand disabled people.
Like I just don't know how that is ableist.
That's fucking crazy.
Like that's a fucking stretch.
Don't hurt your shoulder, man.
No, that's the biggest stretch I've ever heard.
And really, I think, I think upside down.
No, I think people who think that way and who are
constantly looking for, for an angle to make something good, bad. Like, I think that's like
an undiagnosed mental illness. I really do. I think like the, the, the constant hunting, um,
and people who are really chronically spend their time online, I think those people are really not okay.
Yeah, no, I agree.
And more often than not,
those people are like journalists
or people with like, with real jobs.
It's not like these fringe people.
No, they're people with platforms
or people who are respected.
Right, they're like elites in the country.
Yeah.
So I don't know what's going on,
but I'll say it once, I'll say it again.
People are not
fucking okay and I want no part of it agreed that's why we have to create our own little
toast toast haven toast haven like don't fucking come for me that's not that is not something that
you can do here like I will block you and I will delete everything you say because you want to know
why it's a free country bitch you don't like it move because I can speaking of country I learned
something so interesting about our girl Jacqueline yesterday me oh yeah I'm like Jacqueline Hill what
did she do Jacqueline O'Shea has never been to. I have never been to Canada.
I've never visited our neighbors to the north.
Watch, someone's going to find an old picture of me in Canada.
Literally.
Be like, liar.
No, I literally, I don't believe I, I know, I have a pretty good memory.
I think I would know, like, if I ever took a trip to Canada, and I haven't.
And I just feel like that's fucking weird.
Is it?
What am I missing there?
Except, like, I've seen some really beautiful really beautiful things like on the west coast of Canada which is like really far yeah it
is but it's beautiful like I'm still trying to go to Montana I've actually been to Montana so
that I remember but um well you're missing on the on the east coast you're missing some really
flourishing thriving Jewish communities in Toronto and Montreal.
Montreal's also, Brian says, the Rome of the North.
Wow.
In what way?
History?
You know, there's cobblestone streets.
It's very French.
Oh, it's very French up there.
Right.
It's also the Queen's domain.
It is.
So, like, I guess I could go.
It's part of the Commonwealth.
And be a part of the Commonwealth.
You know nothing's ever brought me to Canada.
No school trip.
No bachelorette party.
No work opportunity.
Like the Canadians have never requested your girl.
No they haven't.
But like I have been so many times on a camp trip for work many times.
I didn't go to that camp that you went to.
I know.
Just for laughs. Didn't want to hear my you went to. I know. Just for laughs.
Didn't want to hear my jokes.
Yeah, I did perform at Just for Laughs.
I feel like I'm always going to like panels and stuff in Canada.
You're big in Canada.
Because it's so Jewish.
And actually, I think when you break down our demographics,
Toronto is maybe top three, maybe two even,
of our biggest demographics for the Toast listenership.
We're international, baby.
Well, I mean, I'm open to going, you know?
Yeah.
It's not like a prejudice I have against the country.
Oh, you're not xenophobic?
I'm not can-a-phobic.
So you're xenophobic.
But though people will say.
Right, that's what I'm saying.
No, no, no, but like not going to Canada,
like I've been outside the country. So like you're going to keep calling me xenophobic, fucking bitch will say right that's what I'm saying but like not going to Canada like I've been outside the country so like no no I'm kidding bitch no okay you're gonna start
something Jackie Jackie today is ableist and xenophobic Jackie that was the joke I made I'm
like are you're not xenophobic and you're like well I'm not Canada phobic I'm like oh wait so
you are xenophobic no no I heard you but just like using that label wasn't even like an apt
no you can't just throw around these words.
People come for my neck.
That was me coming full circle,
harking back to a conversation we had five minutes ago.
No, I know.
It's funny until it's.
Yeah, Jackie.
I know Jackie really well.
She's not xenophobic and she's not Canada phobic either.
No, I'm not.
It's just like a coincidence.
I've never been.
No, it's crazy.
Crazy, crazy.
You're kind of like a crazy girl. Well, that we knew. Yeah, it's crazy crazy crazy you're kind of like a crazy girl well that we knew yeah it's
so true so true I'm dreading going into the fifth and final story because it's really sad oh no
yeah what is it but um since I just told you guys that I'll just get into it the captain of the thai soccer team that was in the
cave for two weeks back in 2018 has died from a head injury in the uk at the age of 17 oh that's
terrible one of the 12 boys dramatically rescued from a thai cave in 2018 has died in the uk
dom uh he goes by dom but his name is dom patch prom theft was found unconscious in his dorm
in lester shire england on sunday the bbc reported on wednesday he was taken to a hospital where he
later died various reports in thailand say that dom who the bbc has said he attended a soccer
academy there um since late last year suffered a head injury he was the captain of the thai boys
soccer team which
was trapped inside a cave for over two weeks in 2018 which we all remember while exploring crazy
story such a crazy story I don't think I remember them being stuck there for two weeks yeah it's a
crazy amount of time it was so crazy uh he was the captain of the team that I got stuck there
um in a statement released to people the Leicestershire police confirmed they are not treating the boy's death as suspicious.
Shortly before 1 p.m. on Sunday, police were called to the boarding school in Leicestershire Road.
The call concerned the welfare of a pupil, a 17-year-old boy who was taken to the hospital.
He has since died.
The boy's death is not being treated as suspicious and a file will be prepared for the coroner i don't know how a 17 year old sudden death is not treated as suspicious
well because he had an injury is that injury from what from the cave no no oh no i don't think it
has anything to do with the cave oh i thought that's what you said no sorry he's just like
one of the cave boys that's's how we know him. Oh.
And he died at the age of 17 in his dorm from a head injury.
And it's not being treated as suspicious.
Oh, well, that's.
And them not treating it as suspicious is even more suspicious.
Yeah.
Oh, I thought he like eventually came to his injury, like an injury sustained in the cave.
Not that I've seen in any of this.
And everyone made it out alive and well alive not
injured not injured oh okay it was a miracle then I'm wrong um that's terrible really terrible um
a lot of his former teammates from the cave put out statements um just expressing their sadness
and the Thai community is very sad as well but that was such a crazy time such a crazy time
for like a week we were all just waiting that was so sad and it was like one boy at a time yeah yeah
we got him and like Elon's trying to send a submarine but everyone's like no Elon your
submarine oh that was weird when Elon was like starting beef with everyone starting beef with
everyone he had like a submarine in a swimming pool right out of college trying to see if could get him out. Well that's like kind of the footage now that's coming out of
Turkey and Syria from the earthquake which is so sad. It's like there's so many people under the
rubble and like every time they get one there's like a whole celebration but like there's so many
more people. That is so sad. So sad. Terrible what's going on in the world you know. Yeah. Yeah.
So I'm sorry to end on that note I just um
those boys they were like global heroes heroes and the captain yeah that's terrible uh honestly
rest in peace and I hope his family finds some sort of comfort and may his memory be a blessing
amen that's our show you guys tomorrow is our last show of the week and then we are off Monday
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We will never let a bank holiday pass without honoring it.
No, we kind of like are a bank, I would say.
I would say that too.
We're like a bank.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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See what they're doing.
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