The Toast - WHAT IS HAPPENING?!?!?!?: Thursday, May 2nd, 2024

Episode Date: May 2, 2024

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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the Toast and happy Thursday. Congrats, grads, to all the grads who graduated to the latter half of the week. Except not to the graduates who are maybe potentially terrorists? Yeah. Definitely not congrats to those grads, but to the grads. By the way, do you know what they call that on TikTok? Like talking like that, like they call it a crispy R. Say it again.

Now that I called it out, like I won't be able to do it. Congrats, grads. Like people who roll their R's in English. But that's not a roll what you're doing. Like you're stopping it. It's like gutter roll. No, I don't know what it is. It's like a long R. They call it like graham cracker.

I like that. I kind of like it too. People on TikTok were saying it's like an ick and a trigger for them but i don't know i should i start including crispy ars into my everyday vernacular i think as a podcaster people might riot no i think it fits in with our way of speaking like very moira rose Yes, that's a good example. Of dragging out a syllable that need not be dragged. Yeah, very Moira Rose. That's a good, that need not be dragged by a bebe. Exactly.

So I'm here for it. You have my full support, Turdy Lou. Honestly, I feel like the crispy R is really perfect for congrats grads, which has become a literal daily. Yeah, perhaps. It's become a cornerstone of the show and we are getting into graduation season. We are getting into congrats. See, I can't even say it. I guess it's been a year since we congrats the grads in an earnest way. No way has it been a whole year that we've been saying congrats grads. I don't think that it has. I don't think that when we started saying it it was about graduation I believe that we

made the title of the episode congrats grads so let's just search in the podcast store if it's true that it's been a year like truly time flies when you're having fun with your best friend and sister turtle a year almost to the day May 5th 2023 our episode was called congrats grads on cinco de mayo my people's day so this is really graduation season we are nothing if not consistent that's like when you're on your time hop and you realize you wore the exact same outfit a year ago which i'm the queen of i got rid of time hop I love it as a concept as an app but as somebody with you know severe weight fluctuations like I find it either makes me like depressed or I don't know I don't like it I don't need to know what I looked like a couple

years ago nobody else is like thinking about what I looked like why do I need to see it every day I've always been a time hop lover me too a time hop filiac but with kids it's even more fun I don't I don't miss a hop and I always you know that little crazy nutty dinosaur who's like a thousand hops in a row yeah yeah yeah he's got a life he's nutty as fuck like yeah I love time hop also I saw in time hop a lot of Toast Herstory happened this week to the day. One, I guess it was about four years ago at this point, I met Julianne Hough at the Billboard Music Awards. Oh, that's a cornerstone moment of Toast Herstory.

And on the same day, years before that, we podcasted with Thomas Ravenel and Ashley Jacobs. Oh, yes. Jackie sent me that picture yesterday, letting me know that the anniversary was upon us. Of the day, seriously, I feel like actually a lot of people who are still listening to the show found us through that interview. We had no

idea what we were walking into in that moment. We just got like a PR email, would you like to have new girly on Southern Charm on? She's dating Thomas. We were like okay. And even when we did the interview, shit hadn't blown up on the show yet. But it was the only interview the interview shit hadn't blown up on the show yet but it was the only interview she ended up doing during her time on the show and people just went back and

referenced it and they thought that like there was a whole conspiracy about that interview because it was the only thing she did the entire time it was just truly happenstance that it was ours people thought we were like in on it that we were a part of Tom like it was so crazy the amount of hate we got for that when seriously we were just doing our jobs. Yeah, I don't remember the hate. I remember the love, love, love. And how it really became like a big moment for us. We also didn't realize that she was coming. With Thomas.

Bringing Thomas. And then like Thomas ended up on the show with us. Yep, we had no, like, and if you were in the trenches during that season of Southern Charm, you know how rare of a interview that was we didn't know it at the time like that we were stumbling upon this what would be like a time capsule yeah I guess that's what we're missing out on by not having guests and certainly even if the guests that we do have at this point like we wouldn't be having like someone in their first season who's like coming on as a but we used to just have guests

pretty much on every show at the end of the show we do a little interview so we're missing out on moments like that I can live with it but maybe I'm wrong for that and then we did end up at least I did getting blocked by Ashley do you remember how it went south because you're the memory here yeah I don't remember that I wasn't like so invested in this saga like I felt like we did our part and I moved on. And then also like she was so awful to Catherine that I didn't really want any affiliation with her. I wasn't like proud that we had had her. No. That didn't age well.

Agreed. You know, I ride or die for Catherine. Yeah, no. And she was saying some really, really horrible things. And on the seat, like the rest of the season. So like after that, I kind of like checked out from the interview. Yeah yeah. No that was just sort of like a thing that we did.

Things we did? That. So that's an iconic moment in Toast Herstory. Thanks for bringing that up. Sometimes I do get reminded of like things that we've done on this show. Either like I'm like mortified like me wearing my wedding veil to interview Derek Peth. Hysterical. Hysterical.

But then I'm also like holy shit like like seriously we don't talk enough about closed on Sunday and it's you know obviously such a shame that Kanye is like this disgraced person but the fact that it happens to us I'm sorry it's really sick it is but I feel like that's actually something that we do talk about I'm so worried like no one like people it's gonna get forgotten that I bring it up like once a year yeah that is a crazy thing also don't stop Derek Peth you know what I'm so glad you brought that up because wasn't he engaged? Yeah. I would hope that now he's married.

No, I feel like they broke up. I remember seeing that somewhere. But I was like over my Derek Peth obsession that like I didn't make it a story or anything. Yeah. Okay. A lot of family photos. A lot of family solo photos. I don't see.

Okay. If I'm scrolling through your Instagram And the first 10 photos Don't include your fiance Like you're not engaged No he's not But what's he doing? Does he have a podcast? His bio just says human being

And I feel like that pretty much Sums up what Derek Peth is up to And that sums up like Why we're having a hard time assessing Wait he like doesn't post Hold on His fifth most recent photo Is from 2020 I mean he hasn't fifth most recent photo is from 2020.

I mean, his most recent photo is June 2020. Is Derek Peth okay? Don't ask about Derek Peth. No, I'm freaking out. I'll ask again. I'm just going to Google his name and like see what comes up. I hope he's okay. Wait, no. In 2022, he got married.

Why would you have no... He's off Instagram. But you wouldn't even post about your wedding two years later. Why don't you look her up? Yeah, yeah, what's her name? Saffron. Okay, hold on, I'm on my way. What's her name, Saffron?

S-A-F-F-R-O-N. Saffron. Is this her model? Yeah. Yeah, she's a model. Okay, it's just like modeling photos are they together they got married two years ago like and give or take a few months I feel like there's a world in which they're together but he has completely shunned social media and like doesn't want to

be a part of this that online world anymore especially bachelor like the last piece of like news written about him is the wedding okay but we've definitely stumbled into something here we definitely have I don't see any photos of him on her Instagram I feel like a lot of bachelor people and former bachelor people listen to the toast like if anybody is keeps up with him as friends with him just like let us know just for our own curiosity no I'm dying to know please reach out if you have any information around the whereabouts where in the world is Derek Puff Claude's fave my fave I was obsessed with him like if like I used to think like if I when we were like really in the bachelor space like going to you know after the final rose

and I was single like I would have tried to have dated him. Like I seriously thought he was the most eligible person to ever come out of that show. And I also thought that Chase McNary had the most impressive thighs of anyone to come out of that show. You still think that. I do. You also don't really watch the show anymore,

so there could be more impressive set of thighs. It's true. It's true. Those were good times. Those were good times. Those were good times. The evolution of Jackson Turd. It truly knows no bounds. Knows no bounds.

But speaking of our new passions, it used to be The Bachelor. Now, amongst other things, it's reading. Two things I want to mention. One, the new episode of The Redhead's dropped this morning. And you absolutely have to listen to it, even if you didn't read the book. And kind of like, especially if you didn't read the book. But if you did read the book I apologize and you absolutely like this episode is your consolation prize second thing you went to a big swanky New York event last night oh my god I did I seriously my there's so much on my

mind and like nothing's going on I totally forgot that I left the house last night which is not something I really do on a weeknight I did okay so this kind of major doctor who we've actually had the opportunity to interview here at the Toast Dr. Nathan Fox who is the most precious gem of a man who is so smart and who was Jackie's doctor during her most recent very complicated pregnancy ended up co-authoring a book about complicated pregnancies with Emily Oster who I obviously didn't know prior because I'm not like you know a woman of that phase yet yeah but apparently she's like super major she's the name like she's the book her book um uh what to expect not what to expect expecting better by Emily Oster is like the first book that you would read it's the only book I read on pregnancy when I was pregnant. And so she's just like a major fixture. And she co-authored her third book with Dr. Fox,

who we all know here. And the whole book is about either really complicated, a really common or super rare pregnancy complications and how there's so little data and so little information. And like this book is like the first step in, you know, normalizing that conversation because once it's talked about more, there's better care, there's more laws, there's more laws,

there's more money. They were talking all about data, data, data. She's a data girly. She's a professor. And she was an economist and she got pregnant and she wanted to know about pregnancy, just things like, can you have sushi? Can you color your hair?

And so she looked at all the data and came to these conclusions that some of the things that we think are not necessarily always the case in fact literally the case the vibe that I was getting that's why she wrote her first book the vibe that I was getting like based on the speeches was like she's kind of like the leading thought leader that like pregnant women can eat sushi she like kept making jokes about that I was like oh okay cute cute cute yeah but it was so fabulous because you know we love

Dr. Fox and all of his kids they were at the toast party so like I went to their party they went to our party was just kind of like an exchanging of parties and he made a little speech it was so cute and then like he's very humble you know so Emily Auster made a speech after and she was just like she told this little story that like he won't sign books he has the patients sign the books because like they're the real stars he's so cute like it was so cute and honestly I was like should I read this book it sounded low-key interesting I'm gonna read it because I'm actually the target demo for it because it's also about like people So cute. And honestly, I was like, should I read this book? It sounded low-key interesting. I'm going to read it because I'm actually the target demo for it because it's also about people who have had complicated pregnancies. What does that mean going forward?

And it was also like, I don't know if she said one in three or one in five women will have a complicated pregnancy. And so that's like, even if it's not you, it's like your mother, it's your sister, it's your friend, it's your daughter. It was kind of like an empowering evening. And I actually had a really good time. And it was annoying being not the only famous person there Christy Turlington was there wow and Amy Schumer posted about the book so I thought Amy Schumer was gonna

be there because she posted about the book and Dana was like is Amy I'm like calm down no she's not here so annoying but she is doing press for that pop star movie so like I'll allow it Marjorie Post I'm sorry she needs to come on the toes for that we're like the leading experts. Marjorie Post. I'm sorry, but she needs to come on the toes for that. We're like the leading experts in Marjorie Post. It's so true. We should reach out, by the way. We should. That's a good hook. That like we are Marjorie Post.

We are the foremost leading podcast when it comes to talking about Marjorie Post. We're the foremost leading pop culture podcast when it comes to talking about Marjorie Post. And... No, I think podcast, period. Who else is talking about her I don't know you know sometimes they'll do like a deep dive that's one episode we talk about her every day I'm sorry the leading Marjorie Post podcast is the redheads because we did a whole episode about the book but it could be a collabor anyways she's playing Marjorie Post like in a

movie so she needs that pop culture hook too like we couldn't be more perfect no I'm gonna reach out cool I'll fly in for it a thousand percent yeah um so yes it was a fabulous event I loved it and then Ben got home and when I walked in the door I felt like seriously like a man from the 50s like my husband was making me like a fresh meal and I had had a long day and I'm like oh fix me a scotch honey like I coming home to a home cooked meal but it was like 70% done I have to like wait around and watch I really felt like what's his name for madman John Hamm I loved it yeah that's nice and I think I would have thrived as a man during that age I think my husband had that experience last night like he just like walked in he's like smells good in here happy birthday to your husband happy birthday to my husband happy birthday to

your husband happy birthday I already got my. Happy birthday. To your husband. Happy birthday. I already got my text in. I was probably the first one. I was so proud of myself. Oh, that's awesome. We have a fun day. Zach Shapiro posted on Instagram and I was like, shit, that reminded me.

So Zach Shapiro probably got to him first. If I do a birthday post on Instagram for anyone, like it's literally not coming till 8 p.m. Don't expect it any sooner. That's a really good point. I like that. Yeah. Like I don't wake up with my post ready. Maybe I should plan it at 8 p.m. the night before to get it out in the morning. But that's just I'm too authentic for that. It's not who you are. And I always hold out hope like we're going to dinner tonight. I'm going to get dressed up. My hope is that we're going to take a picture together that I can post. Happy

birthday to my husband. What's going to happen is not either we take a picture and I hate it or like I don't have the balls to ask someone to take our picture or like a waiter takes like a really bad like table pick like I'm not. No by the way. No offense. It's got it like it's got to be aesthetic. Table picks seriously don't do not ever ever. The thing is, okay, table pics can be taken. They cannot be posted. Yeah, no, it's just for the memories. And even though it's two people, like, okay, so I'll go to his side of the booth and we'll take a picture with, like, our, what, we're not going to ask at the beginning of the meal and we're going to ask at the end when the table's dirty.

Anyways, all's that to say, we're not going to get a great picture tonight. That's why, not until we get home, am I going to concede that point and post for him on Instagram. I do need to point out that you have been saying all's that to say a lot recently. Is that like a new thing? All's that to say? I think that it is. That's funny.

I'm glad you have a lovely night planned. I will be literally on a journey to another land and I probably won't get home till 2 in the morning. Yikes spikes. Yeah. Your girl's going to Philly, which isn't like fun and exciting like Philly toasters. Like, no, it's not like that. You know? Do you have good seats?

We do. I mean, by the way, Ben knows. If you're going to make me go, I want good seats. I'm like a snob like that. But I never go. Are you courtside? No, but very close. Well, that's exciting.

How are you getting there? Driving? Literally. Driving through the night. You guys love to drive. Well, if you have a car, I would hope so. I don't know. When I think of Philly, I I'm like so you take the train or the shuttle flight I'm not taking a flight are you nuts and also I agree do you want to hear the craziest thing I don't know if you

know like what time would you say like an east coast basketball game starts I only know that right now that they start like kind of early because it's like before bedtime and everyone's got the tv on. I'm like, this won't work for me. It's been starting at seven o'clock. So most games, like, and I used to be into basketball, like it was seven and then tip off at 7.15, like always seven. I've never heard of a game being any later than that. This game is at 9.00 PM. Why don't you just stay the night in Philly? So that's what Ben had suggested. He was like like there's like a million hotels. Like for what? Yeah so you're not on the road at 2 a.m. literally. But that's when like you get home super fast. That's true. I just like not to complain because like of course it's like fun but it's just definitely like. And there wasn't like a friend that wanted to go with him?

No I'm sure there was but the thing about Ben who Dana she would absolutely love to I'll bring it up but the thing about Ben that's so sweet like he likes spending time with his wife he does and I was like are you sure you don't like want to take like Jack or Victor like any of your friends and he was like no no like I want to spend time with you I'm like that is so sweet um okay like I guess we're gonna be spending time together we could also spend time together at our house like yeah but what are things that that you kind of drag him to that's the thing I'm not much of a dragger like me neither because if there's something I'm really excited about I want to go with someone who's on

my level and Ben can get excited for me but he's never gonna be screaming crying throwing up like even at eras like I went with him once but the other times like I went with others yeah he wouldn't be my like this is the equivalent this is Ben's eras tour and I was his first choice I feel like that's so sweet he was literally like my fourth for eras yeah no it is sweet and you'll go and you'll like it yeah but like Ben knows like like to make it premium for me like if if something goes wrong and i'm like not having fun and you drag my ass two hours in the car like i will be in a mood so he's like planning i was like make sure there's parking like don't make me walk a million blocks to get to the place gas in the car make sure the tires are full of air

there's a spare in the trunk figure out timing so that I'm not hungry when I get there. Like seriously. So yeah, you have a job now. Are you sure you don't want to go with Jack? Snacks in the car. Oh yeah. We always have a bag of snacks in the car. Thanks to very, very randomly.

Mark Schonwetter, my best friend who is also a Holocaust survivor. When I went to his house in Livingston, they literally put in the car for me. They had this like little bag of like mini water bottles, kind bars, little M&M packs. So I keep it in the car. You never know when you need it.

And seriously, it's always in my car. Isn't that crazy? That's nice. I know. So thoughtful. Yeah. So I'll be going to Philly tonight.

Honestly, we might need to start the show a little late tomorrow because like I won't be going to bed till 2, 3 a.m. That should work for me. Tomorrow, I'm kind of,

you're not going to recognize me. So get to me now you're getting Botox I'm getting a spray tan today oh that's you just are going to have like a glamazon on the show tomorrow which is exciting for the show it's exciting that like a big time model will be stopping by yeah so I'm excited for you guys that you'll get to participate in that that That's huge. And I'll have like my spray tan for my big photo tonight with my husband. Yeah, but if you're behind the table, like you won't be able to see your spray tan legs. No, I know. I think I have to like go out of my comfort zone. And like when we're in it outside of the restaurant, like ask someone to take a picture.

And honestly, before the meal, because by the time you leave, it'll be dark. And that's like the worst lighting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I need like my lipstick will be off.'m not gonna put it on just to come home there's so much that goes into it and I feel like the husbands don't appreciate that they're just like why didn't you post for me it's so true well it's like maybe I didn't have anything to work with sir yeah yeah but anyways I'm gonna give it everything I got we know you will and we're so looking forward to following and we'll just be waiting Honestly, I'll be in the car on the way to Philly,

like, refreshing Instagram, looking for the photo. And whenever I wind up posting around 10 p.m., like, you guys will know what happened. Oh, around 10 p.m.? I'll be at the game by then. Still on your phone. So true. Honestly, like, the small glimmer of hope,

like, perhaps they'll, you know, put me on TV. Like, oh, this girl looks beautiful. I wonder who wonder who she's rooting for like that's the only thing carrying me through television opportunity and maybe i'll go viral like you know there's like always those moments like they catch someone on espn like maybe that'll be me i know that's just like not your luck turdy you have like a lot of mazel in your life and there are things that like could only happen to you but like staging your own fake viral moment like everybody's on to you they can smell you from a mile away once again it's because I'm far too authentic like they would know that I knew I was about to be on camera no like that

cameraman can smell that this girl is not going to do anything authentically viral no and by the way let's say for argument's sake that I did go viral for something crazy. Like because I'm like already like a media personality and there's so much like actual proof of me being thirsty. Like I would get called out. Like I wouldn't even have a chance to go viral because they would seriously like they would lift the veil on my true intentions. They would stop you writing your tracks. They would play this episode.

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Yeah. Are you ready for our first story? Yeah. Dan Schneider is suing the Quiet On Set producers for defamation. Calling the Nickelodeon abuse dou-series a, quote, hit job. Dan Schneider has filed a defamation lawsuit against the producers of I.D.'s docu-series Quiet On Set, which uncovered alleged abuse and misconduct at Nickelodeon

and became Max's biggest streaming title ever. The lawsuit, obtained by Variety and filed by Schneider's attorneys, Jana Moser and Richard McKay, reads in part, quote, Quiet On Set's portrayal of Schneider as a hit job. While it is indisputable that two bona fide child sexual abusers worked on Nickelodeon shows, it is likewise indisputable that Schneider had no knowledge of their abuse and was not complicit in the abuse, condemned the abuse once it was discovered, and critically, was not a child sexual abuser himself.

But for the sake of clickbait, ratings, and views, or put differently, money, defendants have destroyed Schneider's reputation and legacy through the false statements and implications that Schneider is exactly that in the words of Julia Roberts big mistake huge because honestly the documentary I feel like really did not make Dan Schneider look any worse than like we thought he was I don't feel like it brought anything new to the table in regards to Dan Schneider specifically and I do also feel the moment has passed it was like a week where everyone was talking about it and I really haven't thought about it since now it's back in the fold his name is back in the headlines and like I actually thought the documentary was really soft on him yeah I don't

know how I came away from it because I feel like the documentary was a hit job on Dan Schneider more so about the bullying and just toxic workplace um and like the mistreatment of children but then also the stuff about like the later years and all those like victorious scenes that are really inappropriate like they are drawing a line that Dan like there's was child sexual misconduct on the set and then also like Dan Schneider had these like sexual innuendos so I I think he was completely disgraced by this documentary like I think that's so funny I don't like us like knew the allegations about him for years but like in the industry like he kind of resigned in not disgrace know, there was like an investigation and then he went, but like no one really knew the story. When I see this, I'm like, I actually find it interesting. It makes me think that like, maybe he really didn't do some of the things that we've always thought

that he did. Well, the fact that, that they clearly went to great lengths to make a documentary about this time at at at Nickelodeon and they were not able to find proof or anyone to speak on record regarding Dan Schneider and like any allegations that have floated around about him for years is really bizarre to me and I feel like now with this lawsuit like if if if he did abuse anyone in his day like that person would come forward now because they could be like oh no it's not defamation like you did that shit yeah I feel like he's really opening himself if he did it he is he is opening himself up right now to be like completely like finished that's so funny my takeaway from the documentary was like it wasn't that bad for Dan Schneider like I feel like they focused so much of the other

like hours of the documentary on those other two fucking freaks and by the time they the last episode they went back to Dan it was really yeah it was about like toxic workplace which he went on a interview afterwards and kind of basically admitted like yeah he was a freak he used to make the girls give him massages like I didn't really feel like it was that bad for him I thought it was going to be way worse because like you said for so many years we've heard these things I think something that also helped his image in the documentary was I think one of the lasting things that people took away from it was Drake Bell's story yeah and in Drake Bell's story like Dan Schneider is kind of the hero of it not the hero but certainly not the villain he obviously if you're working on a show you should have gone

more above and beyond no but like like so there for like what more could he have done once he knew yeah you know what I mean you also think like that shit starts at the top and like you know creating an environment where somebody can so easily by the way even with Drake Bell whose dad was really heavily involved who can so easily infiltrate a young person like what kind of environment are you fostering because you best believe if my ass is producing a fucking kid show oh I've got cameras everywhere and I'm doing full background checks on who I hire. Like, if you really cared. Yes. I mean, I, you know, I agree.

Everyone, like, that's how I feel. Dan Schneider's not the man, the only person in charge. Like, it's also a kid's network. Yeah, yeah, there are, yeah, yeah, that's true. That's true. It's a lot of people have failed the children here yes and I do feel like even in the way that we're talking like it's all fallen on Dan and I think for us that that's been fine because of what we've always known and known about him and what we've heard and so it's like oh well a equals b and b equals c so yeah Dan but if you if Dan isn't that person if you have to like

just think for a second Dan's not that person then he's been like really disgraced yeah I do feel like him filing this lawsuit is really incongruous with everything that we've known about him you're 100% right that like it completely opens him up to people coming forward because if he just kept, he's kind of been like off the grid, you know, he doesn't really work anymore and he's very wealthy. He doesn't have to. So no one's like talking about him every day. Yeah. And even when the documentary came out, you would have thought if there were more stuff about Dan, people who weren't involved with the documentary might've come forward. But you also don't know what sort of people who weren't involved with the documentary might have come forward but you also don't know what sort of like situations the people who could potentially be victims of can't find themselves in

or what you know sometimes you know you sign something yeah I don't know I don't know either but also these lawsuits are very hard to win typically Typically, most people don't sue. And it's not like they said outright anything defamatory. They just sort of like drew a line, a thread throughout of like sex. Inferred. Yeah, like inappropriate sexual conduct. And there were extreme cases. And then there were the things that Dan was doing, which were completely inappropriate in terms of like what he was filming

with the young girls and those things. I don't know that they even have, I don't, I don't even know that they have a case based on that. So I feel like the fact that they're going for it, I don't know. It's unexpected. It's bizarre. It's bizarre.

Yeah. So we shall see. It's going to take a lot for me to really ever change my mind. I know. On Dan Schneider. Yeah. Yeah. Like you would have to have a whole hell of a lot of proof

to convince my ass that he wasn't doing some weird shit. But how do you have proof of something that didn't happen? No, I know. I know. I know. Yeah. I really feel like... Is it even possible?

I have to watch the documentary again. I need to be grounded. No, I do not need to watch that documentary again. It was really fucking upsetting. Like, graphic and just. Well, they had those extra episodes that came out, but I don't think they made a lot of waves because I didn't read anything and I didn't watch them.

Me neither. So, we shall see. Yes, we shall. Are you ready for our next story? I am. Some sweet news Princess Charlotte has turned nine and Kate Middleton and Prince William release a new photo for her ninth birthday as they do for the princesses and Kate took the photo and I'm not seeing any you know know, AI claims or extra. So her passion for photography was correct. Extra fingers. She's always taken their like childhood photos. And this is just a super sweet one.

I, honestly, I don't think they could have handled one more Photoshop fail. Like I'm glad that the photo is clean. And also like you really don't need to be Photoshopping children. No. And especially when it's one. Right. Even when it's two, you can find a picture where they're both looking and smiling yeah but like I seriously think the monarchy would have crumbled if there had been one more fucking photoshop fail like they are seriously they're one photoshop fail away from

anarchy okay I feel like they should have made a photoshop fail in this picture just to one like normalize photoshop fails and it like definitely takes the heat off of the last one because it's like oh that's just a fail on a string of fails not a larger conspiracy right right i also feel like i haven't thought about kate middleton in a while like i feel like everybody really left her alone which is so nice people are giving her the privacy that she requested and the grace that she so gracefully deserves yeah well she's having oh i guess princess guess Princess Charlotte has the same birthday as my husband. So does David Beckham, I learned this morning.

Okay. And The Rock. I feel like your husband would like love those two being his birthday buddies. Yeah, no. If birthday buddies mean as much to him as they do to me, like I bet that he's like a really happy birthday boy. Well, you know how I know that those are his birthday parties is because he told me this morning. Oh, so it's obviously something he cares about. Yeah. He's like, oh happy birthday boy. Well, you know how I know that those are his birthday parties is because he told me this morning.

Oh, so it's obviously something he cares about. Yeah, he's like, oh, I just remembered. It's David Beckham's birthday too. I should wish him a happy birthday. And then I saw Victoria's post for David and I said, oh, my husband wasn't making that up. Well, happy birthday to David. Like I've always said, they're not trying,

but they can never make me hate you. Happy birthday to David. Happy birthday to Dwayne. Happy to Charlotte happy birthday to Zach it's kind of like a bussing birthday I feel like May in general is bussing I saw Molly May's story today and she said that May is a really major month for their family like it's Tommy's birthday it's her birthday it's like Tommy's dad's birthday and Tommy's mom's birthday. And she's just really excited that it's May. I also feel like. Molly May. Oh, I also feel like in the rankings of months, May is definitely like top five.

It's like an amazing month. It's an elite month. I would say maybe it's even like top three. I would agree with that. What do you think is the number one month? It's so, I want to say it's subjective, but I think it's not subjective that May is top three. Agreed. Everyone would put like their own birthday month,

like in, but no, I think December is really up there. It's an amazing month. Nobody works. The snow, the Christmas vibes, like.

Okay. And there's always like treats around. So true. Everyone's like providing treats. You can't walk a block without like a candy bowl. Well, actually that's more like treats around. So true. Everyone's like providing treats. You can't walk a block without like a candy bowl. Well, actually that's more like October. No, but like, I just feel like in December, I was like trying to hide and I couldn't

because there was seriously like, or, you know, your fellow workers send you a holiday basket. We'd love to send a basket to our colleagues. We do. When we do that, we also send one to ourselves. Because who works harder than us? And the baskets, when we're choosing them to our colleagues. To all of our, we do. And then when we do that, we also send one to ourselves. Because who works harder than us? And the baskets, when we're choosing them for our colleagues,

like I want that. I want that chocolate covered pear. No, we want, remember that cookie one we did? That one was really major. Yeah, so there. Like everyone was talking about it. I agree.

I think objectively, December's number one. I think so too. So then what's another strong month for you november like i love i it's like it's december light it's december light yeah i agree with that we have thanksgiving we have the same energy people have their christmas trees up it's also has that autumnal vibe and it's like it's all so far away it feels like we've got all the time in the world a lot of people feel that way about October.

I don't feel that way because I don't love those spooky vibes. People love these. They think that aesthetically Halloween is a good vibe too. It's not for me. So I wouldn't include it. I would go the order of the months. Tell me if you agree with this. December, May, November.

Top three months. Top three. I might go December, November, November. Top three months. Top three. I might go December, November, May. Okay. But I agree those are top three. And actually if we want to acknowledge the space that we're in, I feel like we just came off of some of the hardest months. Yes, that's what I said earlier in the week.

The first quarter is the worst. Like there's not a lot of holidays. It's terrible weather. Everyone's really back at work, working super fucking hard we're out of the woods like season when people talk about seasonal depression they're literally talking about like january february march and april too april like gets off unscathed no we have passover and easter like there are days off that's true but easter was in March this year. And Passover is like hard, low-key. And we didn't take off.

Nah, fuck that. I was talking to somebody last night actually at the party. They were talking about Passover, of course. And I think I realized Passover is my least favorite Jewish holiday. Like the bread thing is really hard for me. I think you said two weeks ago that it's your favorite. Well, I didn't say that. I said that the Seders, which only happened on night one and night two of literally 10 days, by the way, or eight.

I love, I really do love those Seders. Like I just love the vibes, love the songs, friends, family, et cetera. But yeah, now looking at it from a glance, I didn't know what I was in for on day one. At day eight, yeah, I'm going to say it's one of my least favorites. And I feel like it really messed with my wellness journey

because you would think like no bread, that's going to help you. But I don't know. And I feel like it really messed with my wellness journey because you would think like no bread, that's going to help you. But I don't know. I really got accustomed to having like a turkey sandwich for lunch. And it sounds like a big lunch, but it's actually not. And it felt like a big lunch, but it wasn't. And then I just kind of like didn't know what to have for lunch anymore. So I wouldn't have lunch.

And then I would just like wait and get so hungry and then flop on my wellness journey. What did you break the bread fast on like I didn't do a big breaking because honestly I'm not that stringent with it like I'll be honest because I'm authentic I won't outright eat a piece of bread because I think that's disrespectful to our ancestors who couldn't have a piece of bread but what did I cracker sure right I don't you mean anything that's like grab and go it's like well they would have grabbed a bag of pretzels if they could even though I tried to stay away from pretzels but you know I had popcorn apparently you can't have corn like I don't go that far is what I'm saying that's so fair by the way like and I think

some of the Taylor Farms I had had little crunchies on top had them if they could have chosen a Taylor Farms to grab and go while leaving fleeing slavery in Egypt they would have just so you know. Yeah and if you had a Taylor Farms you would know what it's like to not want to leave those crunchies off. Right. Kind of the best part. Right. Right. What was the story? It was about Princess Charlotte and there wasn't much story there so I'm glad that we made it our own and that's what we do like we make a mountain out of a molehill that's exactly what we just did we made lemonades out of seriously like rotten lemons i'm trying to think how we got there talking about the best months talking about may is may birthdays yeah it's gonna be may did you see the video of justin timberlake's concert that's like going viral no because I

my algorithm like knows I don't give a rip about Justin Timberlake and you don't like him but like you do give rips because well so he goes viral like and the circles that it goes viral for me and is like in a negative way so of course that's gonna make its way to me you know yeah yeah that's still like the opposite of love isn't hate it's right indifference that's true maybe i'm a justin timberlake fan so he did a show in like vancouver and he has this crazy ass stage that like like it's like this big square and it like lifts and he's like in the sky and then it tilts forward and he's literally like levitating over people and it went viral because it's like is that absolutely necessary like for real and it gets at the end of the show when he's literally like levitating over people. And it went viral because it's like, is that absolutely necessary?

Like for real? And it gets at the end of the show when he's singing mirrors. I don't want to lose you now. That's mirrors, right? Half of me. Soon I'm innocent of my heart. It's amazing how you hold. Tell me how to find my heart.

I'm looking right. Yeah, I'm looking right at the other half of me. Like I'm a mirror. Yeah. Oh. Oh. Okay, I just looking at right at the other half of me. Yeah. Oh. Oh. Okay, I just want to say, you know, guys know how I feel about Justin Timberlake. But like, how come he can't have like sweet moments at his concert where like people do

the craziest things and it's never like, was this necessary? But like Justin tries to like turn his stage and people are like, all of a sudden it's too much. People do that about pink. They're like, when she's flying through the air with the greatest of ease, they're all saying to one another, is that, you know, of the absolute necessity. Right, but that's not, maybe they say it to one another, but it's not become like what everyone is saying.

You know what I mean? By the way, yes, it kind of has for pink. Oh, really? It's like a running joke on the internet. Whenever you see like somebody at the circus on a trapeze they're like oh it's pink like oh interesting i don't of course i don't see her that way as a true fan oh wow yeah no of course i'm a true fan whoa i'm here till the end you put me aside when something ain't right. Honestly, nobody has made better music,

sonically, rhythmically, lyrically, since Hannah Montana, the television show. And honestly, I think you can say what you want about Billy Ray Cyrus, but he was the creative genius behind those songs. No. You don't think? No, there was like Disney machine and it of course had. Wait, not me by the way.

In the TV show, the dad writes all the songs. Not me thinking that was real. No, but like of course Hannah Montana is my number one. But that era, like we got so much great music. Camp Rock. That's true. Like I was actually just listening to a song from Camp Rock and I was like taken with how.

What do you think is the best song to come out of Camp Rock? Because I know what it is. Well, the song I was just singing. You, me, we're face to face, but we boncey eye to eye. We bon't. We bon't. We're like fire and rain. I'm sorry.

Like, that song is insane. Yeah, but I don't think it's the best song to come out of. That song is insane. Literally. And I can't stay mad at you for anything. Let me tell you the best song to come out of any of the camp rock movies and

perhaps the best Jonas Brothers song ever written is play my music beautiful song but my so good my favorite Jonas Brothers song like is fly with me oh I feel like I

thought you were gonna say roller coaster oh I love that song no but like fly with me just added to the list of songs that like are my favorite it's really sick like really sick no so whoever was writing like that music where are those people like they didn't just go away because those shows went away that was like when we look up we looked up who watched the who wrote the climb and then we found

out like it's this Nashville songwriter and we looked at all their other songs and not only were they other songs that we also love but then there were songs we hadn't heard of that I listened to that I love okay they said it was written by the Jonas Brothers and Greg Garbowski so let's look at Greg he's known as Garbo um let's see what he's written a lot of oh he wrote a lot of those Jonas Brothers songs from Lines Vines and Trying Times a little bit longer okay now look up like who wrote Nobody's Perfect that's an amazing question yeah because Greg seems Jonas Brothers specific yeah no I was thinking the same it was written by Matthew Gerard and Robbie Neville so Matthew Gerard I'm looking at Matthew Gerard you look up Robbie Neville oh Matthew Gerard has

written for the Bratz movie Hilary Duff Big Time Rush Camp Rock Christy Carlson Romano Corbin Blue the Cheetah Girls this is the guy Carter Miley Cyrus oh he wrote best of both worlds nobody's perfect life's what you make it and other various ones he obviously wrote with Robbie Neville when it came to Miley Cyrus this is the guy we're looking for yeah Robbie Neville wrote oh c'est la vie say you will say you won't yeah oh my goodness and what are they doing now um I don't know it says he hasn't written a song in a while I can't find anything about these people but I'm probably spelling everything wrong yeah you are oh by the way the other guy what was the first guy's name Matthew Gerard he also wrote Kelly Clarkson's Breakaway I thought they always said Avril Lavigne wrote that song. Did they?

That's like the thing that Avril Lavigne wrote. No, am I wrong? What's the Avril Lavigne Kelly Clarkson thing? I don't know, but I'm not giving up. No, yes. Breakaway by Kelly Clarkson was originally written for and by Avril Lavigne, but they gave it to Kelly. Okay, what else is Matthew Gerard working on? Jessica Simpson's Underneath. I don't know that one. I'm sure it to Kelly. Okay what else is Matthew Gerard working on? Jessica Simpson's Underneath.

I don't know that one. I'm sure it's amazing. That's really it. I named all of them. A Jessica Simpson song that I don't know. A David Archuleta song I don't know. And a Jonas Brothers song I don't know. Drive. Like if I were to write a song seriously I mean I have but next time I write a song I'm calling up Matthew Gerard you better oh my god he did burlesque Claudia this is our person so when people ask the person what is the genre of music that you like and who's your favorite singer seriously Matthew Gerard who's your favorite songwriter Matthew Gerard I desperately hope that this episode makes its way to Matthew Girard Matthew please reach out I would absolutely love to do a song mate like please seriously Matthew please find me I'm available DM oh my god I just like yeah why why does this take so hard to for us to figure out like those are the best songs what happened to those people who were writing them literally they're still around doing what I want to listen yeah oh I'm glad we got to the bottom

of that seriously thanks princess Charlotte that was seriously satisfying thanks princess Charlotte that's funny are you ready for our next story yeah uh story that you're gonna love because normani did a big wide-ranging interview with the cut yeah and of course something that has been plucked out from the interview is a question line of questioning about normani running her own fan account so in the interview they reference the incident. Viral moment. The viral moment. You know, I like incident better. This is an incident report. So here's the paragraph.

It said, even today, she says she, and it's very, it's a very long, extensive interview. And it's like a shame that people and us are only focusing on this part. If you want to know more about Nomani, like go read the interview. It talks about like why she hasn't put out an album in the five years.

It talks about like her whole origin story. Like what's important to her. And here's what's important to us. Even today she says she prefers to leave social media to her management. Her posts have a cool measured remove to them. And rarely reveal too much about her personal life. She said I'm not on social media. But I do see a lot.

And I'm very tapped into what y'all are saying. Recently one of her more popular fan pages, at Normani Nation, tweeted a screenshot of her Instagram where Normani had just deleted all of her posts. Quote, What is happening? They wrote.

People quickly noticed the screenshot showed the user was signed into Normani's own account, suggesting that the artist or her team might be running her own fan page. Normani said, No, I mean mean I'm definitely heavily involved she says calmly when I ask about her relationship to her fan accounts but does she run any of them does her team at RCA her publicist steps in and says yeah I think we can skip this

question this was so poorly handled because I actually feel as somebody who understands like how the world works a new way of artists managing themselves is having like headquarters for their fandoms and it being a part of their management like Taylor Nation HSHQ for Harry Styles so many fans have like basically their fan clubs run by their own team it's not a big deal yeah normani nation nobody thinks someone else is running taylor nation they think it's coming from taylor and her hq the fact that she couldn't just explain that now makes her look seriously like a huge loser yeah and then her team which is the same people that got her into trouble with this because again i don't think it was normani on her actual phone right screenshotting and saying what is happening it was her team on her account like

trying to drum up um some hype and then them stepping in again to make her look bad again like the team needs to go where are the fire like and I also need to know like in order to sleep at night that the person who did that on Normani's team like for her management label like just that what happened to that person no seriously they shouldn't work in social media. This has been so grossly mismanaged. And you're right. Like, I don't think Normani was the one who physically took the screenshot and then tweeted.

No, her team is obviously signed into her account. It's not a, it's literally not a big deal. But the jumping through hoops to lie about it, now she looks seriously like she screenshotted it herself, posted it herself. But I don't think that was even what happened. Yeah, I feel like I get what you're saying saying where it's like there's nothing wrong with it and in fact it's actually a good thing to own your fan account but if up until now they've been pretending it's

like just a an anonymous fan how can you kind of backtrack on that now I feel like she should have in this case and usually I'm against this but I think she should have thrown someone under the bus and been like oh yeah there was someone on my team who um did that we had no idea they were doing that like they've been let go yeah and you don't even have to let anyone go it's just like an imaginary person yeah yeah so it's like an imaginary throwing of the thing is we could wax on and off about different ways this could have been handled and all of them would have been better than what just happened and you should know better like the cut is they're cutting they're vicious they're snarky they're not like a friendly you had to know that they were going to keep that in they I believe were also the who was the publication that kept

in the Ben Platt publicist stepping in about nepo babies and the article in in the New Yorker I think it was also the cut they are known for being snarky yeah even though this article from uh the piece on her I read a lot of it but I did skim to get to this part it seems meant to be friendly you know I think she's sitting down with them how can it not be Normani's not a bad person no but like I think she could have given a wide-ranging interview to a number of places and she's this is kind of like the bridge to get from like understanding the last five years to now her new album that's coming out in June. Like she's kind of giving them a big moment. So I don't think they meant to be like incredibly shady, but how else do you, could you handle

this? Yeah. Grossly mismanaged. All's to say, what is happening? No, all's to say, what is happening? I feel like that Jonah Hill meme. Yes, by the way, that's literally what they wanted us to visualize when they were trying to, you know, pull one over on us. Thankfully, it is what I visualized, but not in the way they intended. What is happening? Literally. Well, countdown to Normani's debut album, June 14th.

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Rosie O'Donnell has joined and just like that season three okay saying here comes Mary so yeah that's the name of her character she posted on Instagram like a picture of her script her name is Mary on the show um she'll be in episode one and she said here comes Mary hashtag and just like that okay so I have to imagine like Rosie's an iconic lesbian. Miranda's just, you know, had a late in life lesbian discovery. I think at the end of the season, spoiler alert, her and her girlfriend broke up. And Chae's not back on the show.

Oh, right. Maybe I will watch it. And perhaps Rosie is maybe, don't know how old is Cynthia Nixon in the show? Could Rosie be like sort of like a mentor for her or is it like a romantic relationship? I'm not sure. I'm not sure either. I think I guess it could be romantic. Yeah. Who knows? I forgot I forgot where the show left off I just remember like really not enjoying a single minute no like it's seriously so so so bad I never even watched but like my husband would watch and so I would just like catch a scene here or there and it was like

it was insane television it was insane television that's a perfect way of putting it and it's so crazy to really disgrace the legacy of such. I mean, we were talking about it yesterday. It's still so relevant. It still has such influence over like a new generation to completely disgrace. And especially like they nailed it with the movies. I'm sorry. The movies were amazing.

I wouldn't touch a hair on the movie's heads. Yes. Agreed. They gave people more. So they kept the legacy intact. No, but it's like you can talk about Sex and the City and talk about In Just Like That. Like, to me, they're two separate things. They are.

In Just Like That. Like, Sex and the City doesn't know In Just Like That, doesn't claim In Just Like That. No, and honestly, I think when they announced the show and they said that the name was going to be In Just Like That, I remember being on the toast like, why? It's such an iconic name. Thank God for that. Yeah. No, the show is-

Because they're burning it to the ground. Is an absolute train wreck. It's some of the worst acting the worst plots like it's just fucking horrible it's and who's watching it that they even have a third season me but you did you finish last season yeah no i'm literally watching it still yeah why oh right aiden like because they get you they get you because seriously at the end of the day the characters themselves are beloved and even when you watch a show like it's not the characters like Charlotte who doesn't love Charlotte like she couldn't seriously like it's like she got a lobotomy she's such a bad actress like it's horrible there's nothing

connecting the original characters to the characters who we know and love I can't stop watching it hmm okay it's crazy okay yeah no it's crazy and especially now that Che is out seriously like you can't you can't stop me from watching it seriously well are you ready for our fifth and final story which is some more content news that's really gonna have the swirlies excited okay it's swirly content news oh obsessed Colleen Hoover's Verity film adaptation is in development at Amazon MGM a film adaptation obsessed. Colleen Hoover's Verity film adaptation. Is in development at Amazon MGM. A film adaptation of author Colleen Hoover's. Best-selling romantic thriller Verity.

Is in development at Amazon MGM Studios. Hilary Seitz is currently writing the script. And who knows what shall be. I'm cautiously optimistic. Obviously we're all waiting for it ends with us. This, you know, crumbs that we've gotten are really disturbing and genuinely like... Frightful.

What'd you say? Frightful. Frightful. Yeah, no, I don't even know what the right word is. It's disheartening, honestly. I feel like Colleen Hoover should have signed a deal with a studio that would keep like the world of Colleen together.

Because on the one hand, it's good because it ends with us. Looks like a piece of shite. Great. We can write that off. But Verity is going to Amazon with new people and it's all different. And maybe Verity stands a chance to be properly cast and look good. But I feel like it's weird that she would be all over the place in terms, not that the books have anything to do with one another, like we could have like a a cohesive Colleen Hoover aesthetic like

Nancy Meyers instead we're just I just feel like she's like taking whatever deal she could get honestly that's actually a really good point the books have nothing to do with one another except for the fact that they're a part of the Colleen Hoover universe narrative wise they're not connected like Nancy Meyers movies don't have anything to do with each other but there's a common thread that's actually so true and it is just sort of like like whack-a-mole take this deal that deal and it doesn't feel cohesive and especially and i'm glad that she didn't give all the rights to the first deal because lord knows what that movie's gonna end up looking and being but um no you're right it should have

been like it would have been major and they have the money it should have been like a one-on-one hello sunshine something yeah yeah that would be really great and I feel like Colleen has power not I feel like she does I she seems to be someone who's just like so excited to be here you know I'm glad you guys like my books but like she dominates like she's sold millions and millions of copies. Everybody like wants these book rights. And notoriously, if you sell the rights to your book, you have no power. You're basically giving it up for other people to creatively. But Colleen is in a very privileged position.

And I feel like she has choices. She could have made demands, but it doesn't seem like she's, she's, I don't know, not that she doesn't care about the movies, but she kind of just trusts the process. And I don't know that she should, but let's reserve judgment till August. That's true. We're saying, these are, you know, strong words

and we've never seen a lick. We saw actually this week, they released a couple of new photo stills from the movie. It looks just as crazy. She looks like Brave. Princess Merida, yeah. Merida, like it just isn't giving what we all visualize and now people are like well if you read the book you would know great she is like artsy fartsy and

we all read the book that's not what we visualized thank you well but i'll see you in august like i'm gonna stop like trashing it until august i agree. Unless I have to because it's a story or something, you know? Yeah, unless your job requires it of you. Yeah, but I'm excited. Verity is probably my favorite Colleen Hoover book. Not a hot take. It's so good. Not a hot take.

Everybody loves it. Yeah. So much they could do with it. I hope that it is an instant classic. It's also, I think, the most different of her books. A lot of her books follow like similar tropes, you know, damsel in distress energy.

This one's very thriller while still having that classic Colleen Hoover romance. But it is kind of like a crazy mystery. Yeah, it could be the next Gone Girl if done right.

A thousand fucking percent, by the way. I think in terms of actually making a good movie, this is a better book for a movie than It Ends With Us. It it ends with us just was the obvious choice because it was a more popular book yeah and already like millions of people are gonna watch the movie because they love the book so it'll be good regardless it'll be successful regardless sorry

but yeah like an iconic movie I don't know um well those were actually amazing stories by the way I enjoyed them a lot today and pretty deece for a Thursday. T.Y., T.Y. I had some food news that got the boot at the last minute. Honestly, TGFT, thank God for that. Yeah, I just wasn't in the mood to let you know where you could get a free Krispy Kreme donut today. How does Krispy Kreme seriously keep the lights on?

They're always giving out free donuts. Maybe that's why you got to spend money to make money. I also want to say, I've ended up on Crumble Cookie Talk. Do you know about Crumble Cookie? No. It's like the new insomnia. It's like super trendy. People love it.

And it's different because they drop six cookies a week, different flavors. And it's like, I don't know if you can get just like a chocolate chip there every time, but they have six big cookies. And people do taste testing every week. And it's like in this pink cute box. They look so fucking good. I need, it has been on my list I need to maybe we'll do it mukbang style for the patreon love that with you well where do you get them their locations everywhere cool I bet there's one near you I'm still on crumbs you know

crumbs yeah that cupcake shop what was it called oh you are I just thought it was so good like why did it have to go they actually recently made a return and they're kosher they were always kosher by the way yeah why why do they need to be not well why does anything need to be not unless you're like serving pork yeah or gelatin is yeah no but crumbs was like a like a New York City Jewish community staple because they did have a haksher. Slay. Slay.

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