The Toast - What's Buoying You?: Wednesday, October 11th, 2023

Episode Date: October 11, 2023

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Good morning, Millennials, and welcome back to the Toast. Hey. Happy Wednesday. Happy Wednesday. Worst day ever. Yesterday was the worst day ever. I don't even know how to function and, like, do this job. I've actually never had a harder time doing my job in my entire life.

I felt literally embarrassed of yesterday's episode. Like, I—yesterday was literally the worst day. We did the episode, and I think in the morning given like the time difference we don't get news here about what's going on in Israel until and when we wrapped and really just tried to do like a nice funny show like I'm also talking about what's going on Israel just kind of the way that we would talk like normally the way if we were hanging out um and I felt like when I woke up in the morning I was feeling a little more hopeful hopeful and feeling like you know it's our job to bring light.

And that's what we're going to do today. So we did our show. And then we just got up and checked our phones. And I literally felt like embarrassed to put out that episode, like given what I had read after. After we wrapped. I literally was humiliated. Like I wasn't humiliated, but I just felt stupid.

Like I didn't even promote yesterday's episode. I don't know how to function, like for real. I agree. So after the episode, we read about the 40 babies. There are no words. There are no words. And then I feel like in that moment, I'm a different person since that. And then so looking back at the episode, I'm like, how't know how but then throughout yesterday like we've just been talking honestly

talking to your people is comforting comforting right now and I've there I go through like highs and lows but I saw a quote this morning that makes me feel very strongly about us doing what we do and that we have to keep doing it. So let me find my, my Instagram quote card. That's buoying me. That's my new favorite word. Cause I need to be, I need to be buoyed right now.

Okay. I love that word. It's kind of like tethered, right? Yeah. But like for the ocean, for the ocean, um,

like there are very few things booing me right now. I'm so glad you, I love the word buoying, but you'll read your quote. This is my quote from my new favorite Instagram account, Lee Kern. He wrote on the movie Borat. He's so funny

and he's so pro-Israel and you need to follow him. I agree, I followed him this morning. Lee Kern 13. Love, laughter, and inspiration are life support for the human soul. Do your best to keep people's spirits up.

That doesn't mean we pretend all is amazing, but help keep your fellow Jews from slipping into trauma and paralysis we love each other we will emerge on the other side oh my god everything lee kern's post makes me cry and they're also so there's other ones that are so fucking funny and that's what we have to do that's our job i said to you yesterday we all have our role to play in the war to come oh my god jackie pulled that game of thrones card out of her ass and like i've been thinking about it non-stop say it again we all have our role to play in the war to come oh my god jackie pulled that game of thrones card out of her ass and like i've been thinking about it non-stop say it again we all have our role to play in the

war to come we are at war we have a few roles to play and one of them is to help people's souls another one is to be so proudly zionist to share information to share the truth to everything that we're doing so as much as like you want to sink we're doing our part yes and part of that is the light and it doesn't yes and we're I'm happy to go in and out of talking about Israel right now because like that's what our day and that's what our stream of consciousness is like and also we kind of just have been sitting around like reading the news also like reading everyone's garbage posts on Instagram the social media I can't stop talking about it I I feel conflicted because it's so unimportant but like it is no it is important it's important and I just know everyone who listens to our show is sitting around doing the same thing sending everyone's posts to their group chat yeah like what is this

person actually saying what does this person actually stand for and we're having those conversations on this show so um things that are booing us. I love that. What's booing me right now? Well, first of all, I went yesterday to a pro-Israel rally, which honestly, I am ashamed to admit, I was terrified to go to. Remember, I was sitting with you yesterday and I got really nauseous. I think I was scared. I think that's what my nausea was from. Because the other side, we've seen, they're so violent. They're cheering on what happened. They're holding up swastikas. Like, these are not people who want me walking around being proudly Jewish.

So I really was terrified. And shout out to my friend Moti Ankari, who posts the, he's literally the best Instagram account. Another Instagram account that you should follow. Everyone should follow. Moti, M-O-T-I, Ankari. He's texting me. He's like, we're going. Like, he's like, stop.

I'm like, okay, okay, we're going. I said this morning, like, should we do our show? Like, the past five Instagram accounts you need to unfollow. Yeah. And the past five that you need to follow. So let's throughout just drop ones that you should follow. And I'm sure. One I'm loving that is incredibly graphic.

But like you said like this is not time for trigger warnings. This is not time to protect yourself. Like this is happening to real people. And unless you see it you won't believe it. 40 babies. Right. Do you know how many people are. 40 babies is a Zionist propagandaist propaganda lie really I saw a picture

what's so crazy first of all they had to live it so we have to watch it we have to know what happened what's so crazy is all the footage that's coming out was taken by Hamas because they're like so proud of what they did yeah and the world can't look away because look it's right there they're showing us yep that's the one thing where Israel did not put out like the pictures explicitly they're all kind of blurred and so people are doubting that it happened they're saying that it's like Zionist propaganda and so it's like imagine if Hamas didn't take all those videos you wouldn't believe no one no no people would not believe that this happened they would say that Israel is lying so on the one hand it's like it's so awful that they are like sharing casting and live streaming what they did but on the other hand like thank

god you guys wouldn't believe it so not the toasters because the toasters are good oh yeah by the way when we I'm so angry I keep saying you guys like yesterday I was just like recording you guys you guys I'm not talking to like our community that is amazing best community on the internet I've never been so proud to do what we do. Like, let's do Camp Toast again. Like, we've got to get together. We've got to get together. But the account that I was referring to is called Black and Jewish Unity.

It's by far my favorite account, especially given that yesterday, or maybe even the day before yesterday, like the official Black Lives Matter organization that so many of us rallied behind and raised money for and were happy to support, especially within the Jewish community, who has historically stood up for civil rights um to see them come out with a statement for all of their chapters that they stand with Palestine like was so vile and so disgusting and so black

and Jewish unity and I know that doesn't represent a lot of the black community so I think that account is really great black and Jewish unity Moti Ankari too, Nate Buzz. Like there's really good people doing good work and we should leverage our platform to promote them. To promote them. Liz Wood, she's got the celebrity angle on the chat. Not skinny enough at, killer content. Violet Benson, killer content.

I've been enjoying following Bar Raphaeli since yesterday. Yeah, so that's buoying me. Another thing buoying me is this chat. So we were put in this chat yesterday. I don't know who organized it, but just with like a lot of influential celebrities, influencers who support Israel. Like what can we do?

How can we raise money? It's just kind of this coalition, if you will. Think tank. Think tank. And it is, first of all, just like seeing who joins, like I'm still me, you know, like seeing, you know, celebrities' phone numbers, like I'm obsessed. Like that is buoying me and just being around like-minded people. And that's why going to the rally yesterday, I'm sorry, my thoughts are all

over the place. I was so scared, like seriously petrified. And it was amazing. Oh my God. The sheer number of people, something about the pro-israel movement is you know it's always like your grandpa like it's always like the old people you see in shul who have lived long enough to know why the state of israel is so important there's never really like a galvanized youth movement and this rally yesterday was literally my high school reunion like it was just so amazing to see so many young people, so many people and enormous shout out. Like I felt so safe. I didn't even, I was not looking over my shoulder for one second. Everyone was metal detected. It took forever to get in. Metal detected, cops everywhere,

like huge shout out to the NYPD. Like there was barricades and droves of police. Like I just felt so safe. And UJA was the organization that put it on and I think paid for all that security. So I felt really great. And it was just like, so when you live in the internet, which I do, my screen time, I can't even imagine what it is this week. Yeah. I was thinking the same thing. It's just so easy to forget that like there are normal people and there are good people and there are allies and there, and it was, I think I read somewhere it was 12,000 people. Wow.

It took me about 30 minutes to walk out. The governor was there. The mayor was there. And it was, I think I read somewhere it was 12,000 people. Wow. It took me about 30 minutes to walk out. The governor was there. The mayor was there. The UN ambassador for Israel was there. Everybody spoke. Everybody was singing. Like it was just, it was fabulous. So like that's a high.

Yeah. But like my friends, Jewish, I mean, not Jewish friends just being like, how are you doing? Like, what can I do? The only way to describe it is like highs and lows. Yeah. Cause I don't know. I don't know I don't know either but just every like I feel like people especially influencers like don't necessarily post and I felt this way sometimes too

because it's like I don't have anything new to say and I don't know what to say so I'm not going to contribute anything but like just letting people know where you stand on the sign of human rights like means so much the bar is so low the bar is so low yeah no i actually saw a tweet meet it people can't meet it and now all of a sudden now all of a sudden you can't be taking up space with your voice it used to be that your silence was violence i i guess no longer now silence is necessary in the face of evil you should be silent yeah that's what i'm seeing and I don't get it. Why did silence stop being violence?

Like, I don't know. I think when, when the violence was targeted in Jews, that's when silence was okay. No, stop. No, like popular culture and rhetoric is so frustrating right now. I can't, in our, you know, in our sisters chats and we're like chatting with, you know, people we, we know our allies, other influencers, we just keep screenshotting and being like, are you, imagine releasing a statement on this entire, and I'm gonna call out Reese motherfucking Witherspoon,

releasing a statement on this entire saga and not once in your statement is the word Israel or the word Hamas. Or the word Jews. Manipulating language so much to mark yourself as safe from like any sort of backlash. Like, are you fucking serious? When I look at someone like Reese Witherspoon, who is like a like a who's a mom but also it's like a really big community of

moms and how can you read about the breast milk shortage so many mothers have been slaughtered that there's not enough breast milk in the country for their babies like how can you read that and put together some bullshit statement like seriously fuck you fuck you yeah seriously fuck you everyone like doing back flips and back handsprings mental gymnastics no not mental verbal verbal gymnastics to mark what's the word for writing written sure okay whatever i thought that was a better word or rated that's speaking's speaking. Oh. To mark themselves safe, they spoke out, hi, I care, but you don't care about shit. Who do you care about? You care, but who do you care about? Seriously.

It's so disappointing. So many spineless people, but we always knew the celebrities. I know. They fucking suck. They fucking suck. And to put so much, and this is maybe a moment in my life where I need to reevaluate seriously. Like how much emphasis and like and love and support like I give to other people. Celebrities. Like it's.

And I know she will never. But like it's literally gutting me that Taylor Swift hasn't said anything. Like this. I'm literally going to cry. Like it's so stupid. Why am I crying? Like this is someone I admire so much. And like I put so much of my heart into. Like it's so stupid. Why am I crying? Like, this is someone I admire so much. And, like, I put so much of my heart into.

Like, it's so stupid. Like, I really need to reevaluate. I mean, I've been saying that, but yeah. No, it's, like, embarrassing. Yeah. And, like, I know she'll never. She doesn't speak out about anything. But this is unlike anything.

It really is. That has ever happened. Like, in our lifetimes, in centuries. This isn't just, like, another social issue where you where you like post a graphic and check a box like no and by the way it's only going to get worse and that's another thing that's just so harrowing like this is just the beginning of it like israel has yet to retaliate so many people are going to die so many people are going to die and in america it's like this dumb war of of statements dumb war of statements and it's like this dumb war of statements. Dumb war of statements. And it's like, you know, there's bad on both sides.

No, that's not what it is. This is good versus evil. Israel is going to defend itself now and people are going to die. And Israel is going to go out of their way to make sure there's a few civilian casualties as possible. Before they started dropping bombs, they said, women, children, civilians, get the fuck out. Go north.

Go north. There's two borders outside of Gaza. People don't understand this. Let's talk about this. Let's talk about this. The Gaza Strip borders Israel on one side, where that's how they got in to massacre, slaughter fest, rape fest 2023.

And they also, in the south, border Egypt. If they in to massacre, slaughter fest, rape fest 2023. And they also in the south border Egypt. If they want to get out of Gaza, go to Egypt. Oh, they can't, Jackie. Why? Palestinians living in Gaza are not allowed into Egypt. Why, Claudia? I don't know. Why doesn't somebody ask Egypt?

Where's Egypt, you guys? And keep in mind. Why don't you instead of, well, I don't support the Israeli government. What about Egypt? Where the fuck are you at? No. And for and by the way, because of course, Instead of, well, I don't support the Israeli government. What about Egypt? Where the fuck are you at? No, and by the way. Because of course Israel's not going to let those people in right now. Because when they let those people in, you saw what happened.

And by the way, for many years, you were allowed to, there wasn't like a big border between Israel and Gaza. Like you could roam freely. And you know what happened? People roamed freely with bombs on their chests. And they blew up a Sbarro pizza shop. And they blew up buses. So that's why we are where we are now where you can't just freely roam in no and there's a checkpoint where you have to get searched so that you don't enter with weapons like there's history there it's not this way for no reason israel has been so fucking patient with these monsters yeah Yeah. They're out of time.

These monsters. Even for days, they're still telling people to go. If Hamas doesn't let the women and children go and they still want to plant their children in front of their rocket launchers and the rocket launchers need to be bombed, those deaths are on Hamas. 100%. Like, I think everybody, everywhere can acknowledge

and feel for innocent Palestinians living in Gaza, like for real. And to put any blame on what's going to happen to them on Israel is shameful and anti-Semitic because anything that happens to an innocent person in Gaza is at the sole responsibility of their elected officials. And their elected officials, their government is Hamas, a terrorist organization whose charter says, we will not be happy, we will not sleep peacefully until every Jew is eradicated. We will not be happy until Israel is completely wiped off the map. And once we do that, our next victim?

America. So if caring about people in the Middle East is not something you're capable of, well, first of all, look inward. And second of all, maybe you can care when it's about you and it already is about you 12 I heard this morning on the news I don't know if this number is verified 12 of the 150 people captured and living in Gaza are American American hostages 14 of the deaths are Americans citizens there are Germans there there are Mexicans there there are Nepalese people there like I don't know what I could possibly say to make people care and make people see what's going on.

But this impacts all of us. It really does. So if you can't lift an arm to give a shit about Jews, maybe you'll care about a fellow American. I don't know, though. Also, another weak statement. I support Israel and I support a free Palestine, you guys. So does Israel.

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but when they chant free Palestine, from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free. That is the land of Israel. So you cannot have a Jewish state and a free Palestine. We've been trying. We would love that, but that doesn't work for them. So you can't, there's no both sides here.

That's just the end of it. Like, there's no both sides here, please. So take a stand stand stand for something how scared people are of the backlash and we've heard that like a lot of you know managers publicists whatever are telling their clients don't say anything even if they want to post something they're like don't post anything it's insane and I guess if you weren't going to post anything so stop posting your regular life stop posting your regular life stop posting your your regular life. Stop posting your ads. Because I haven't noticed any, like, I only noticed the influencers who are posting their regular life.

I'm like, oh, but you didn't post anything about this. But if you haven't posted anything, I haven't noticed. Like, you're flying under the radar. Yeah, and that's fine. And that's fine. But to go on, like, so unabashedly, like, going, you know, flying around, going to parties, like, it's insane. Posting your ads.

Yeah. No, I do have an ad today and I'm gonna be posting it yeah why should we be punished no I'll get the money and I'll donate it to Israel no any brands who want to work with me I'm fielding all incoming offers I will be donating it to Israel so yeah why would I leave that on the table no for sure why is Hamas gonna win win take my money no literally no I don't think so not today Hamas not today other things booing me oh yes my book of course last night this made me cry and a toe like so many toasters are sending me pictures of their kids with my book I sent this picture in the chat of um this little red-headed girl holding the book

she literally was the camper she's you and the toaster was like she thinks the book is about her stop oh my god claudia i was beside myself like 100 i don't know why it just like it struck me i know just because the book is like it's so pure and just like i don't know i it was the cutest thing i ever saw it is about her i told her i'm like tell her the book is about her she is the camera jackie redhead representation matters no it really does like she said she doesn't really like see redheads aren't usually like the main character we've got a few you know we have parents hallie and annie um but even they had to split screen time it was two redheads played by one actress right that's a little representation yeah um and it just like wore my heart people are sending me all of these pictures with the book their kids are loving it the book is sold out

everywhere so I don't really have a lot of promotion to do today it will be back in stock on Thursday so maybe I'll do a a fresh launch day on Friday you know yeah for sure let's let's regroup on Friday like let's go so fucking hard on Friday yeah for the book when there's more in stock I can't believe it's sold out everywhere like I didn't think okay okay Jeanette McCurdy I didn't like when I placed my first order of books like that's how many I thought I would sell over time yeah over time so I never thought I would run out on launch week which is cool but it's not even like good you know because it's annoying that people can't get the book that they want um but there are still

copies available at talk shop live those are the signed book plate copies I'll be doing talk shop live tonight so I'll also be running a drive for friends of the IDF through talk shop live so we'll just be like girly swirlies chilling at the book doing our thing and that will just be fun and maybe it will be booing for some for sure and. And I think, by the way, like the reason why that made you choke up, I think we're all just like so many, in Israel, the majority of the victims of violence and terrorism are kids.

Yeah. So whether you're a mom or not, you're just like looking at kids now, like these precious souls. Precious souls who at every cost need to be protected. Yeah. That's why. So it's for who at every cost need to be protected. Yeah. That's why. So it's for the kids.

It's for the kids. It's the best book ever. And I heard everybody talking about what happened at the lake. Everyone's talking about it. Everyone's talking about it. You have to get the book. No spoilers here. So thank you to everyone who's been so supportive.

The Toasters are the best community. My DMs are flooded with love and support. And I've read them all. I can't get, like, I haven't responded to all of them. But I see them. And it means so, so much to us. Oh, my God. I met a thousand toasters.

I literally was like, I felt like the president. Like, no. You should have gotten up and given speech. I was a little offended I wasn't asked to sing Hatikvah, my favorite song that I slay so hard. Olivia literally asked me last night to send her a video of myself singing Hatikvah. But, like, I was a little hoarse. I didn't want to do it. Who sang it? Nobody. Or maybe

I didn't stay for the entire thing so maybe like at the end somebody sang it. Okay maybe on the next one. Yeah I'm available. I love the Israel National Anthem. It's the best song. It is. Are you going to do it? No. It honestly would make me cry. I know and honestly

I want to wait for the proper stage. I can't ever hear the song without crying, especially not today. No. We're not here to depress you. No, we're going to try. More than you're already depressed. Yeah, yeah. We're going to try to buoy.

We've got some random fucking stories. Certain celebrities are buoying me right now. Yeah, and certain celebrities I'll never speak of again. Yeah, I think we all know who they are. Like they need not be named. Yeah. We all know. So without further ado. I guess. Do you hear. I just don't want to feel stupid again. You know. No I don't feel stupid. It's important. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. To bring light and laughter and. It's so the essence of the Jewish people like they're killing us and we're dancing. No I'm literally. I saw a video of like a wedding in Israel I know where none the bride and groom had come so and none of the guests had could come so just random Israelis Jews were there celebrating dancing with

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No rush. Our first story is actually some celeb news that would have made the Fast Five if the world wasn't set on fire by Hamas on Saturday. So Joe Jonas and Sophie Turner have reached a custody agreement. That's, it's nice. It's nice.

And they're speaking out after their successful mediation and they vow to be great co-parents. Joe and Sophie are ready to put their tumultuous custody battle behind them and focus on amicably raising their young daughters. The former couple released a joint statement about their co-pairing dynamic just hours after reaching a temporary custody agreement for their three-year-old and one-year-old. Quote, after a productive and successful mediation,

we have agreed that the children will spend time in equally loving homes in both the U.S. and the U.K. We look forward to being great co-parents. I mean, this was just like a shocking turn of events because it's been so bad. And I think when we all saw the lawsuit and then the custody, we were reading it and we were like, this is something that's going to go on forever

and it's going to get really messy. So they mediated one time. We all saw the pictures of Sophie leaving and we love that do you think that the events of this weekend maybe put things into perspective for them I don't know how involved you know Joe and Sophie are in global issues like I don't know I don't I just feel like it it it could have and for some people it would have maybe not that maybe they were like it's definitely possible that this could have impacted someone wow you people, it would have. Maybe not that. Maybe they were like, No, it's definitely possible that this could have

impacted someone. But it's like, wow. You know what? Like, let's do what's best. We're fighting over what man should. Right. Let's put, like,

you love them. I love them. Let's play time with them. Like, we are so grateful and blessed. Honestly, that's an amazing call. I think it's entirely possible because, like,

we were saying, like, anyone with a child, I mean anyone, but anyone with a child specifically, like, is looking at them differently today. Yeah. And I feel like we were saying like anyone with a child I mean anyone but anyone with a child specifically like is looking at them differently today yeah and I feel like we were saying how this is was getting so nasty like it was gonna be one mediation of many and if they could even mediate they would probably go to court they have a court date for January and all of a sudden it's all good it's good I mean that would be a nice thing I don't know I feel like for some

people that would have happened I don't know them at like personally so I don't know. I feel like for some people that would have happened. I don't know them. Personally. So I don't know if that's what it is. But I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility. Me neither. That's a nice way to look at it. I'm glad they worked this out. Honestly, I have not enjoyed talking about the demise of this marriage and this family.

Like it's actually really sad. Yeah. So they were able to work it out across the pond. it's good I wonder where in the U.S. they'll live hopefully New York because it's just it's so much closer it's so much closer it's it's really the equivalent if one of them lived in LA and one of them lived in New York if they're doing New York and LA yeah six hours five hours yeah okay good good I'm happy for you. Next story. Dancing with the Stars is dancing with stars. The stars are dancing.

The stars are still dancing, which was crazy. I was on one of their Instagrams last night to see if she had posted anything. And her whole feed was Dancing with the Stars. Who? One of the dancers? One of the stars. Oh, who? Ariana Maddox. Oh. She's very vocal vocal so i was like i didn't it was just her whole thing was dancing with the stars i was like

this is still happening well you know it's so crazy maybe like we're too in it but like i can't believe people are literally doing anything i mean it's crazy um and they should dance like and no and you're not going to cancel with the Stars because like because there's a war yeah but um it was just so weird to see you know that is weird her stories were like

so many slides of like dancing dancing dancing pirouette kickball change all this crap I was like wow I'm just like on a different universe

speaking of Dancing with the Stars you know me like I am a sleuth I am a curious cat like when people are doing fun mergers on Instagram like I'm seeing which of the people I follow have donated. Harry Jowsey donating $1,000 to the cause.

We stan. Vote for Harry Jowsey. Vote for Harry Jowsey and Mauricio Umansky. Right, because Mauricio Umansky declared that he was dancing for Israel after performing the Fox shot with his partner Emma Slater on Motown Night. No, I love him. They danced to the pop song Working My Way Back to You. And he said, Tonight I stood by Israel and I danced for Israel and we gave it our all.

His routine scored 23 out of 40 points. Why is this making me cry? This is so stupid. Dancing. Like, I can't. I love Mauricio. I take back every bad thing I've ever said about him. He's my Jewish king.

He's always, you know what? Like, he's always used his very small role on Housewives. Kyle, too. Like, talking about their interfaith marriage and her conversion and Shabbat. Raising Jewish daughters. he's always you know what like he's always used his very small role on housewives kyle too like talking about their you know interfaith marriage and her conversion and shabbat raising jewish daughters i love them i love them i'm sorry love them he's always been like a very good representation of a jewish man yeah especially because there's so many misconceptions about judaism i feel like we had this conversation when there was like a spike in anti-semitism like a year ago um because a lot of people who don't care to learn

about the faith, like really just dismiss Jewish people as white. And it's so not true. Judaism is an ethno-religion. And I think what's going on in Israel is a testament to that. Like there are Lebanese Jews. There are Arab Jews.

Like most of the Jewish population lives in Israel, over half. And they are not white. Yeah. They're, I guess, brown. And Mauricio's a testament. He's a Mexican Jew. There's Ethiopian Jews.

Of course, there are black Jews. And Mauricio's just a testament to that because he is a Mexican Jew. And people, I think, who don't know the complexities of the religion would say that's impossible to be a Mexican Jew. But it's entirely possible. And you're right.

He's been a fabulous representation for our people. And I think we need to remember that more. And then I think there's also a lot of really public Jews who, you know, most days are really great representations of the people. But in times like this, they fucking suck. Seth Rogen, like literally never hated someone so much in my goddamn life. What did he do? What didn't he do? Like he's the worst. Yeah. We don't claim him. So to not only see that he's like a good Jewish man, but he supports Israel and he's not backing down. He's the whole package. And then there's the other schtick.

I think Margo said this in one of our group chats. So shout out counts. Like people who love to use like Judaism and culture for schtick. For schtick. And like jokes and like latkes. Ha ha ha. Like being a Jew when it's easy. Ben Platt.

Ben Platt. And they get platforms for that. And people use their statements as resources and they do nothing. And yeah other people who you know dislike Jews and don't want to support Jews they use those statements and they hide behind them because they're like look this Jewish person I'm with the Jew I'm with the Jew who fucking sucks. Yeah and then there's other like another subset of people who are very proudly married to Jews or like date Jews and be like, oh, Jewish men make the best husband. And we all know that.

And they love to advocate for the Jewish people like in a joke. Like, ha ha. Yeah. That's why I was, I had seen that video of Alex Cooper that went viral being like, first thing my mom told me was like, date a Jewish man. No, she said, I wish my mom told me. I wish my mom told me to date a Jewish man. And it went really viral.

And then when this was happening, you know, my ass flocked to her page. Yeah. She posted. She posted. No, it's like, okay. You can't be with us when it's funny. When it then when this was happening, you know, my ass flocked to her page. She posted. She posted. Like, you can't be with us when it's funny. When it's, like, nice and fun for you, but you have to also stand with us. During the hard times.

So, yeah. I'm just taking notes. And there are also women who date Jewish men or convert and marry Jewish men and have Jewish children who are the best advocates for the Jewish community. They always say the Jewish converts are better than the Jews.

Like they have such a, I don't even know what the word is. Like ruach is the word. Spirit. Which translates to spirit, but it's like this fiery fucking need. They are more observant than, you know, people who were born Jewish. They are, you're right, like converted Jews have this crazy energy in a good way. Yeah, yeah. So it's a spectrum, you're right, converted Jews have this crazy energy in a good way. Yeah, yeah. So it's a spectrum, you guys.

It totally is. And just because someone's Jewish and they said something doesn't mean that that's the right thing. Like Ben Platt's statement, like, Crap. Throw it in the garbage, light it on fire. Goodbye. Bye.

Also, someone who used to be like that, but who has stepped his pussy up is Andy Cohen. Let's talk about Andy Cohen. I'm so glad you brought that up. He used to be the worst. Like whenever there was like spikes in anti-Semitism, talk about somebody who was the biggest platform. And he's not shouting into an echo chamber.

I think a lot of creators who are very proudly Jewish and pro-Israel, their followers are the same, you know? So it's great, but it's not really moving the needle because you're just shouting into an echo chamber. I mean, talk about Andy Cohen. Like, could he be friends with more celebrities of different backgrounds? Could he have a wider audience, like all over the country from housewives? And talk about somebody who's literally done nothing, like for the people or the movement. It has definitely marred my view of him over the last couple of years because he really, for a very, very, very, very, very long time was like an enormous role model of mine. Yeah.

But also talk about someone who not only has the audience and the celebrities and the connections, but who shtick is so Jewish. Mazel. Everything. Yeah. No. So who has built a brand with the Jewish humor and the Jewish culture. But and it has been enormously disappointing in recent years.

But you're right. He has stepped his pussy up. Usually like when something there's a spike, it takes him a few days. And then he, like, posts, like, a week Instagram story. And that's it. This time he posted in feed. Yep. And he was unequivocal.

He was very clear. And his Israeli flag. Very clear. That's all it needs to say. And you know what? I do imagine that some of the influence, I have to imagine Anderson Cooper has influenced him. Anderson Cooper has been fabulous. Like, I watched a bunch of his segments interviewing Israelis

on the ground, interviewing friends and family of people. He's in Israel. He's in Israel. He has been for a few days crying on air. Like,

really, I have to imagine Anderson had an impact on Andy because, you know, they're thick as thieves. Or Andy had an impact

on Anderson. True, true, true. Great. Yep. Our next story, random as fuck.

Yellowstone's Cole Hauser launches a new coffee line inspired by his cowboy roots well before we wrote his coffee what did he post

no I'm kidding let's just like make sure I'm sure he didn't post anything it's fine no it's fine no he's not someone

that like I need to hear from you know because I don't hear from him ever I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't have an Instagram

he does have an Instagram I follow him and so I would have seen what what did he post oh no no no sorry I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't have an Instagram. He does have an Instagram. I follow him. And so I would have seen. What? What did he post? Oh, no, no, no.

Sorry. It's something from September. But it was like a group of people. He like never posts. But he's very like, hoo-ha, America. Which I feel like those people are pro-ies are also. Oh, yeah. He was posting like September 11 tributes. Right, right.

Hoo-ha, America. He's giving hoo-ha America like with the beard. I would mark him as safe if I had to guess. Like if I was a betting woman, I think he'd be okay. Yeah. So he's bringing his ranch lifestyle to breakfasts everywhere. Can't wait to support. On Wednesday, the actor who plays Rip on Yellowstone, I'm sorry, Rip, launched his free rain coffee company.

People can reveal exclusively how exciting for people I don't really feel like that was a people exclusive like I heard about it like weeks ago I'm so happy for you people that you could reveal that exclusively why don't you do some more coverage about Israel the new brand is meant to be a nod to the rugged spirit of the west and pay tribute to the hard-working cowboys that Hauser grew up around on and offset. Like I said, hoo-ha America! You know what? I feel like he is a cowboy on TV and like then we all started following him and he's like a cowboy in real life.

I feel like there could be like a scandal about him. Where he grew up in New England? Yeah, where it's like he's not a cowboy. Like he went to boarding school and he's like putting on this role and appropriating cowboy culture because that's what people want to see from him. Okay. This is like totally random. I'm like sitting here thinking like I'm literally embarrassed that I cried about Taylor Swift.

Like I need a grip. Like I'm not okay. Can we cut that out? No. I'm just really emotional. Like seriously. It's always the most random things that get you. Like and I feel.

No like if anybody ever clipped that like I would die of humiliation. Just if you clip that. Like clip this part too where she said she's embarrassed. Yeah, like am I okay? But I feel like other things like we prepare ourselves for to talk about on the show. Yes. We got our tears out about the babies yesterday. Yeah. And we knew it was going to come up today.

And like you can. Prepare yourself. Yeah. And then something just hits you sideways. Yeah. No, I'm humiliated. That's like what I said at the Dear Toasters last week when she was crying about the bill. Yeah. That she like had to go. You're right right and I made fun of her yeah like no I'm a different person this week like you will this is a new turdy a nerdy

anyways kohlhauser who still seems to be a cowboy has six blends that each cater to different tastes no but you're right I'm ready for the kohlhauser documentary. Hashtag Kohlhauser is over party. No, no, no. Rip, rip. Rip, rip. No, I'm ready for it. Like, you're right. So inauthentic.

No, I'm saying, maybe it's not inauthentic, but I could see that happening. You could see a world in which. Like, he's the Rachel Dolezal of the cowboy world. I agree. I could see it. I could see it.

But for now, he's good. I feel like the only person who talks about Rachel Dolezal anymore is Joey Camasta. He like never lets it go. And I think as a society, we need to talk about it more. That was crazy. Yeah, but also she's like an adjective now. Like anybody who's like. You got Rachel Dolezal.

Who's like pretending to be. Someone they're not. Someone they're not or like from a culture that they're not is a Rachel Dolezal. So just to refresh my mind. She pretended to be black and made her way up to the president of the NAACP yeah she had a big role at the NAACP at like um she would like braid her hair and stuff yeah and like a lot of self-tanner and then how did people find out that she was actually just not black at all I don't know but that's what people do that's where people really are the best like that was

sorry I was talking about people who exposed her, not Rachel Dolezal. And it's like Ilaria. That was crazy too. Yeah, that was crazy. But yeah, but Ilaria wasn't working at the center for, you know, Latin life. No, and it was just like funny and weird and like embarrassing. Weird and embarrassing. But it was like deeply problematic because she worked at the NAACP.

Yeah. That was crazy. Crazy times. Let's start, we need to start talking about Rachel Dolezal more. We need a list ofACP. Yeah. That was crazy. Crazy times. Let's start. We need to start talking about Rachel Dolezal more. We need a list of Rachel Dolezals. Yes. Yes.

Comment below. Oh, Whoopi Goldberg being a Jew? Yeah, but like not at all. No, she's not a Jew. She just changed her name and like tells people she's Jewish. Rachel Dolezal. It's giving Rachel Dolezal. Actually, I've been.

Where's Whoopi been? Another thing buoying me. The nanny. Like, for real. Me and Ben, we got home from the rally, maybe at 6.30. We ate Chinese food and we sat in bed in dead silence and scrolled our phones until 10 o'clock. You just can't go to bed after that.

So we watched two episodes of The Nanny. It's a show that is so proudly Jewish. Like, it's all like the invitation's a halfway to Israel already. Like, they just like talk about Israel as it's just, it's really, it's, it's buoying me and it's an actually funny show.

Wait, where's, where's Fran Drescher? I'm sure she's doing something because she's a vocal queen about everything. Yeah. Let me just double check. Like, yeah,

no, no, I, I have faith, but let's see. She hasn't posted since October 4th. I don't think she has like a constant stream of instagram stories down in the stories it goes down in the stories i agree that was six days

seven days ago fran drescher story we need like what are those things called um a google dog no no those advocacy groups they're like watch groups watch dogs or something okay that like keeps a running list that just, they keep tabs on stuff. We also like, we really need to talk about the posting and deleting. Like, it's running rampant. I can't believe people

haven't learned. I know. Let's see. I doubt Fran Drescher has posted anything. Like her Instagram is not a reflection of her like streams

of consciousness. No, she hasn't been in the news since July. Oh, with the word Israel. Let me take that out. Oh,

yeah, yeah, yeah. Because whatever you're going to find is going to be about SA. Oh, with the word Israel. Let me take that out. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because whatever you're going to find is going to be about SAG because she's the president of SAG-AFTRA. Variety to hold Hollywood Summit

on anti-Semitism. Oh, you're a part of this. I am a part of it. Mark Maron, Alex Bellarmine. I forgot that she's doing that. And Claudia Aschere. Is my name in the headline? No, but I added it

because you'll be there. Yes, what fabulous timing, for real. Yeah, much needed. This thing was all right. I'm going to LA next week for it. And Fran is like the keynote speaker. And I asked the organizers, I'm like, you have to let me get a picture with Fran. Let's hear it.

Why aren't you in the text of this article? I don't know. Actually, I did get a media alert. I think I am in like the very bottom if you want to keep scrolling all the way down. No, I scroll. No, no, I'm there. I know I am. No, for real.

Give me the fucking iPad. I know I am. Literally, Claudia. Oh. I scroll. No, no, I'm there. I know I am. No, for real. Give me the fucking iPad. I know I am. Literally, Claudia. Oh, wait. Oh, sorry. I don't know this website. The variety. The official one.

Obviously, this website cut me out. What website is it? Hold on. I don't want to say it. Let me see. I've never heard of it. Yeah, but I'm in it, okay? I've already eaten my ass.

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No, that's a lot of rulers. Yeah, no, they wouldn't have seen it. No. Unless they drifted and they happened to have been closer before. Yeah, but I don't think it means that they made it down there, especially because when they heard the. They said that it collapsed almost immediately. Yeah, and the Coast Guard heard it.

That was also fucking sus. Yeah. Sussy story. Sussy-licious. Additional presumed human remains. Sussy story. Sussy-licious. Additional presumed human remains. Sussy space act. And the final pieces of the doomed Titan submersible were plucked from the depths of the Atlantic Ocean last week.

I guess this officially concludes this story. Marine safety engineers for the Coast Guard recovered several parts of the wreckage, including the 22-foot vessels intact, titanium and capped from the ocean floor on Wednesday. But when they were searching the ocean floor for like a bunch of days and pretending to us like they didn't know anything when they clearly did, they didn't look 1,600 feet away and see this end cap?

Right. I had heard they were searching for miles. Right. And according to my math, 1,600 feet is less than a mile. Sussy spacek. No, this whole situation was so weird. Remember when it was like, oh, we were talking about it? Honestly, I really miss those days, even though it was such a terrible story.

But it was a simpler time. It was a simpler time. There was no real villain except for that CEO. Yeah. And we all agreed. I miss those days of unity. It's like the Suez. That's what I thought when you were starting this story.

I thought you were talking about the Suez. I'm like, wait, what's the Titan? And then I remembered. I've moved on from the Suez. I have too. I actually moved on pretty quickly. The Suez no longer buoys me. No the Suez no longer services me. Like serves me. It was just it was a moment in time and people tried to make it more than that and it really wasn't. And now they get like stuck looking for

attention. Yeah oh my god everybody's always going to the Suez with their big boats these days like they're like oops. It's a little tight tight oh no what did i do like everybody's being like attention-seeking whores yeah i guess if i were a ship captain like wanting to go viral i'd give it a shot in the suez i know and i feel like so much of the ship captain life is like lonesome and boring and you know what if they need this to like stimulate themselves i actually i'll give them the attention they want oopsies I made a whoopsie in my pants. Oh no. I made caca.

I made caca in the bed. I made caca in the bed. Our fifth and final story. Yeah. It's Amazon Prime Day Who cares What are you getting Prime Day 2023 Continues

I don't know Has Amazon released a statement With amazing deals Jeff Bezos Like where is he Slinging his coin That's so true But he also owns

The Washington Post Which sucks Ass Literally Like oh that's Amazing point I don't know But Lauren's

But I do feel like When you're at that level Like you just own stuff You know what I mean Like I don't think You're part of the editorial team amazing point i don't know but but did you feel like when you're at that level like you just own stuff you know what i mean like i don't think you're part of the editorial team yeah and you don't deal with not that i'm excusing it but if you do have like things that you care about you would make an effort you would make an effort yeah what about lauren i could see her being like a pro zero queen yeah me too and she clearly doesn't give a fuck what people think about her she's dating je Bezos no and like she just like does her thing you know when you're at that level like you know what she actually it posts on Instagram like yeah what did she say

and it's also crazy how all these people who like uh philanthropy and service is kind of their brand because they just have money and nothing else to do. Yeah. Like are silent. Like the. Who are you referring to? Megan and Harry. Yeah. Humanitarian. Yes. Crisis. And they're out here talking about mental health today.

Today? Yeah. It's like World Mental Health Appreciation Day. Oh my God. Those days help nobody. Like I think it's important that we all acknowledge that. Is that people who never thought of me? Also shout out to to sponsor BetterHelp

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But just in general Yeah Hold on She's the vice chair Of Bezos Earth Fund Did she post anything? She has three stories Right now

But it's been a while Right In feed No I think she went To that U2 concert And the big Sphere Sphere yeah The sphere that no, I think she went to that U2 concert and the big sphere. Yeah.

The sphere that was covered in an Israeli flag and U2 performed and sang a song in solidarity with Israel. I love Vegas. Can't wait to return. She posted this,

like, but it's unclear. I'm seeing a lot of texts. It's unclear. You want to know the most telling thing? It's a tweet from someone, from a pastor.

You want to know the most telling thing About how much power social media has on people It's that people who've never supported A thing in your life Will weaponize responses like unfollowed As if that's supposed to hurt you You could have left without an announcement Okay that is Could go either way

Could go either way But let's see what this There's unfollowing happening on both sides Let's see what this pastor has been posting. Nothing. Well, things about, of course, you know, having Christ in your life, but not. He spoke at the Jewish Federation of Greater Philadelphia two days ago. Okay.

That's good. It's so funny the way we have to research. But you just have to know where people stand. Because I don't want to talk about or follow people who support evil. That's just not what

I want to do with my life. And then she posted another thing. We love your big feelings. Yeah, that's like mental healthy. Okay. Because I think today I'm sorry, talking about mental health given

what's going on is a scapegoat. You're seeing influencers being like mental health is about most important right now. Mental health is always about most important. Being able to worry talking about mental health, given what's going on, is a scapegoat. You're seeing influencers being like, mental health is about most important right now. Mental health is always about most important. Being able to worry about your mental health is actually a privilege when you don't have your physical health. Look at this headline from People today. Meghan Markle stuns in an off-the-white shoulder ensemble on October 10th at the Archwell Foundation Parents Summit titled,

Mental Wellness in the Digital Age During Project Healthy Minds World Mental Health Day Festival in New York. No, that's an insanely long headline. First of all, trim it down. Trim it down. That's just journalism 101. So today's World Mental Health Day. I'm sorry. I just feel like when things become days,

like International Women's Day, when you become a day, the cause is over. Because to me, it helps nobody. It almost trivializes what the thing is about and it makes me feel stupid being a woman a woman on International Women's Day

like for real yeah World Mental Health Day and if you're gonna have like a summit about motherhood and kids and like you don't acknowledge what's going on right now

like you're a joke yeah and it's not a funny one pass me the iPad we still have to do your toasters do we want to do that today yeah for sure I feel like it'll lift spirits yeah we have time okay so dear toasters our uh what is

it weekly advice segment is where you guys can write into us about what you're currently dealing with and we'll do our best to give you advice it's all anonymous you can email us to your toasters at gmail.com or you can head over to thetoastpodcast.com and submit it there too. So are you ready? Actually, I want to start with this one that I saw earlier. It was like giggly. Okay. Hi, Claudia and Jax. I'm a grown woman marrying a grown man. He just so happens to be providing me an opportunity, as our therapist says, to temporarily be living with his parents before we buy our home. Oh, before we buy their home. Oh, that was an important thing I misread. So I guess they're moving or whatever. They're going to buy the house from the parents. With this comes a plethora of issues with the future in-laws. I've learned to not get mad, but rather just laugh. Yesterday,

my future mother-in-law took the liberty to fold my clothes from the dryer. I can understand if I was hogging valuable real estate, but she wasn't even doing laundry. My fiance says she was just nice. My fiance says she was just nice. My fiance says she was just being nice, but I surmised she wanted to see my undergarments. Is this weird? Am I in the wrong? I think she's being nice. Like, honestly, if anybody would fold my laundry, like, that's my best friend.

I don't care if you're a Hamas terrorist. Like, you're folding my laundry. No, I'm totally kidding. Anyone who folds anyone's laundry, I understand, like, taking it out, putting it in a laundry basket because you need the dryer. That's different. And I don't think that's rude either. No. Stay on top of your shit.

Like, but to fold it, like that's actually nice. Maybe she sees you. I wouldn't, I, unless she's like a deeply evil person who you have like crazy evil history with, which if you live with, I don't assume that you have that. I think you can assume that her intentions are good. Give her the benefit of the doubt and just take the folded laundry and take the win. Yeah, no, I hate to say a toaster's in the wrong because toasters are never in the wrong.

She's asking. Because sometimes people just assume they're right and they're like, what do I do? And it's like, uh. How do we tell you? We need to tell you. The call is coming from inside the house. That's another, okay, wait, we need to start a list.

There's this woman on TikTok who like stitches people's videos, who use like funny phrases and writes them down. She's like, I want to start adding these to my daily life. And there are a few things like I always want to start saying more. Rachel Dolezal. Okay. The call is coming from inside the house. Okay, so just like good terms. Good shit. Like a list of good shit. No, my list titles like have to be really specific or else I can't find them. Okay. List of phrases. Good terms and phrases. Terms and phrases. You've been Rachel Dolezal. No, no, no.

You are Rachel. Like they are. Well, you can. It's a noun or a verb. That's what's so beautiful about it. No, but when it's like you've been Rachel Dolezal. It's like that happened to you. Not you did it yourself.

Let me just write Rachel Dolezal. We can iron out the terms later. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or like the specificities. The call is coming from inside the house. Whenever people use that phrase, it makes me giggle. It's so funny. It's like you're being hypocritical.

Yeah. Okay, do we have anything else? Oh, the Game of Thrones thing you said earlier today. Oh. We all have a role to play in the war to come. Is that it? Yep. I like that one.

Obviously for me, fuck around and find out. Yeah, but that one comes to mind a lot. Yeah, I don't forget it. I don't find these naturally coming to mind and it bothers me. Okay. So we'll keep the list going.

Okay. Great. Dear Jackson Claude, avid listener and spritz enthusiast here, I'll try to keep this short. My husband and I have been married for six years

and we had our second child two months ago. I've been a size four my whole life, but after our second, I've really struggled to lose the pregnancy weight. I'm now a size eight.

Since I've added on weight, my husband orders for me every time we are out eating and has never done so in the past. He will only order salads or something very healthy while he orders whatever he wants and I'm starving. Should I be happy he's trying to help or mad because he won't let a breastfeeding mama eat? What would you do? Please help. Oh Jackie was had a different thought until. No I didn't. Oh like your head ticked over breastfeeding. Yeah, I didn't realize she was still breastfeeding. So that's different. She needs to get those extra 500 calories. No, honestly.

And you're fucking ravenous when you're breastfeeding. This is beyond problematic behavior. Like your husband should be canceled. No, I know. And it's like, it's one thing if he wants to like say something to you straight up. But to be so manipulative, it makes it worse. No, and honestly, like a man who has anything to say about like his wife's body, like problematic. But it takes it to another level when she's postpartum.

Literally. Like just gave you two children. The second child is two months old. No, that's great. This man's a problem. But the thing is, she has two kids with him and especially two months old. So she's got to solve this. You know what?

I'm sure she's right again because she's probably still really hormonal and she's like am I crazy I mean I think you guys should have a conversation about it where you're like you need to stop I just gave birth two months ago I understand I'm not who I was when you married me and if that and I might never be and I might never be or if it's something that like is important to you could be like just be patient with me like I'll get there and if you don't intend on getting there, which is also fine, just be like, and this is who I am now because I gave you two children. Like fucking deal with it. Fuck all the way.

Fuck all the way. I'll stop ordering for me. No. By the way, we don't talk enough as a society about the types of people in our society who order for others. Yeah. But also say like you're starving our child if I don't get enough calories. Yeah.

You're starving our child. say like you're starving our child if I don't get enough calories yeah you're starving our child people who order for other people like I that's like one of my biggest like um etiquette pet peeves like it's so presumptuous yeah especially these days everyone has like allergies dietary preferences gluten intolerances you literally can't order for someone else no it's like a crazy thing to do all right are you ready for our third yes hey. Hey, Jackson Turdy. Hope you can give me some advice. My husband and I have been together for almost 13 years, married for five, and we have a two-year-old son together. Two years into dating, when I was 18 and he was 20, scandal, I found out from a friend that he had cheated on me. It was a drunken one-night stand. I broke it off, and about

a year later, we reconnected, and then the rest is history. Out of nowhere, this whole situation has found its way back into my mind, and I just can get past it i told him how i was feeling and it made me feel it made him feel really awful and it's now just become this like big elephant in the room he suggested having alone time going on a date but i'm just not into it what do i do honestly i feel like this is like the time for couples counseling like getting through infidelity is really hard and it's like once you get over it like whatever what it takes like a year like it can come back I didn't know that yeah I mean how can you not be resentful yeah but I thought you forgive in the words of Lauren but you you can't forget no but I feel like once you move past it you're past it I didn't realize it could like

have flare-ups it can have flare-ups but like the rule and this is what I think they say in couples counseling the rule and by the way I sound like I'm speaking from experience like I'm not I don't know where I hear this I feel like I heard it in um the sweetest no no what's that movie uh how to lose a guy in 10 days when she dresses up as a therapist as a therapist who looks like Jenna Lyons um they say like you you work it out like you you can be mad but once it's done like you're not allowed that's like here lies Shannon Shannon here lies Shannon yes Shannon and David Boudreaux she had to literally bury her former self. Right.

In order to move on from their affair. So it's like a big no-no to move on and then like come back. But it's a human instinct. Right. So I think counseling is a great solution. I know. And I think people think couples counseling like is the beginning of the end. But I know a lot of people who are in like extremely healthy marriages who go all the

time. Like who don't even have problems. Like they just like go. And I'm not talking about myself even though I sound like I am yeah but I wouldn't be embarrassed if I was I think every couple's different every person's different some people do a lot of therapy and want to do therapy even when they're mentally sound and other people even when they're on they're mentally unwell they don't go to therapy right everyone's different I think that's a really good um solution Also for me, sometimes I just need time. Like I'll get over it in, like I just know, especially if they've worked through it.

It's like, oh, I'm having a flare up right now. Like something else will come up in a few weeks and I know it won't bother me. So like- That'll give me anxiety and something else to worry about. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I also find like maybe when you experience

like temporary eras of peace in your life, like where nothing's bothering you, you tend to go back and find things, self-sabotage, find things to worry about. And like maybe this is, to look at it with a positive, maybe you're just in a very peaceful place in your life that you're looking for things to worry about.

Yeah. I think we've all been there. Yeah, but I don't think like you need to break up with him immediately. I would try a few things before you do something like that. I think it can be remedied. If it can't, then it can't. But I think it can be. Same. If it can't, then it can't. But I think it can be.

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