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Good morning, Millennials!
Welcome back to The Toast and happy Thursday.
Hope everybody's having a great day thus far.
Today's episode is a special audio-only extravaganza featuring a major celebrity.
You know, we had a lot of talent coming into town for New York Fashion Week
and we were able to nail down a pretty stellar interview with a major celeb.
Joining me today on The Toast, it's Ben Soffer.
Hey Ben, how you doing?
Hi darling I'm doing wonderful on this Thursday morning how are you? I'm doing
fabulous so grateful as always to have you joining me in studio. How's the
celebrity life treating you? I know you're so busy back-to-back photo shoots
press junkets thank you for being here. I mean like people like to pretend that
I'm a celebrity and like they like think of it as like a bit of
a running joke. All I have to say is that last night I cooked with the one and only Jeffrey
Zakarian from Iron Chef and Food Network. And I'm just saying that only real celebrities get the
opportunity to cook with an Iron Chef. I forgot about that. You got home late last night. You
were all the way in Brooklyn with another man. Deep in Brooklyn and not only with another man.
Deep in another man. Deep in Brooklyn man deep in another man deep in Brooklyn
deep in another man and honestly an incredibly fit older gentleman so you met Jeffrey Zakarian
tell me how this uh partnership came about because it was an intro you made you've cooked with him
you made some like video content that's going to come out on Instagram right yes and uh as
everything else a toaster a good guy's listener it was a guy's listener, a boy with no job, it was really
somebody who was just a diehard good guy's listener.
She reached out and she said, you know, I run social media for Jeffery Zakarian and
I think it would be really, really great if you guys started to make some content together.
And I said, I would absolutely love to show the Jeffrey Zakarian my cooking chops.
Let me ask you an honest question, okay?
Yes.
Did you know who Jeffrey Zakarian was before the girl asked?
Yes.
Okay.
Yes, Iron Chef.
You don't watch Iron Chef?
No, I do.
I watch everything on TV.
Like, you don't watch TV.
I watch the Food Network.
Okay.
I grew up on the Food Network.
No, you...
And how kind of shit is this?
You grew up on, like, James Taylor. No, no, no. That's music. No, you grew up, like... I grew up on the Food Network. No, you grew up... And how kind of shit is this? You grew up on, like, James Taylor.
No, no, no.
That's music.
No, you grew up, like...
I grew up on...
Actually, you grew up on The Big Bang Theory, which is exactly what's wrong with you.
No.
I grew up watching the Food Network.
I grew up watching Nick at Night.
I grew up watching Disney.
Mm-hmm.
And Jefferson Carrion was a classic on Iron Chef.
Let me ask you a question.
I feel like when we podcast together, I, like, learn new things about you.
Like, when I was a young tween, like, I was obsessed with the Jonas Brothers.
Like, that was, like, my celebrity crush.
Like, who was your, who were you obsessed with that, like, you had maybe a poster of or that you had a crush on?
No posters.
Guys really don't do posters.
They don't?
Nah, not really.
Not really.
I think also I, in particular, didn't do posters because I was just so cripplingly embarrassed
of my parents like seeing a poster.
Because then I'd like have to talk about it, you know?
Oh, you were embarrassed that your parents would know who you liked?
It's funny because like they also like bought me all my CDs so they knew who I liked.
I was obsessed with Vanessa Carlton.
A Thousand Miles, I watched her at the Grammys.
And I remember just thinking.
Wait, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
You watched her at the Grammys? Did I literally like? You said the Grammys. And I remember just thinking... Wait, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You watched her at the Grammys?
Did I literally like...
You said the Grammys?
You didn't say it like that.
No, I don't think so.
You did.
You did.
Cool.
I watched her at the Grammys.
Is that...
Did I say it right that time?
The Grammys.
Okay, at the Grammys.
I watched her at the Grammys.
Yeah.
And she was just fucking unbelievable.
You're still obsessed with her upset and then all of a sudden
white chicks comes out oh baby making my way downtown walking fast faces passing i'm terry
cruz unbelievable so good um so i forgot. You asked me. Jeffrey Zakarian.
Oh, yeah.
But then you pivoted to like, I don't know things about you.
So I wonder what things about you.
But yeah, Jeffrey Zakarian.
Let me just quickly.
First of all, Jeffrey Zakarian, nice, kind, great.
Jewish?
I don't think so.
He kind of looks Jewish.
Armenian, I believe.
Okay, okay.
Unbelievable.
Obviously, he's an unbelievable chef.
That's literally what I was about to say.
But I'm just saying, unbelievable chef.
Did you cook at his house?
No, we cooked at City Harvest.
They have this new gorgeous facility where-
But City Harvest is a charity.
Yes, but they now have what seems to be a for-profit.
You can rent it.
Oh, that's so smart.
Yeah, to like, I don't know.
To make money for the org.
To make money for the org.
I love that.
Good plug.
Yes, and it is a gorgeous, gorgeous facility.
Jeffrey has his own line.
You sound like Ina.
Ready for this?
You sound like Ina.
Jeffrey.
Jeffrey.
How easy is that?
I can't believe I didn't do that with him.
Oh, that's a big mistake.
He has his own line.
And by the way, I'm plugging him away.
I'm just saying, Jeffrey, when you hear this,
you got to start plugging stuff for us. Okay. Promo for promo. Some Spritz Society, some pink
lemonade, which we'll get to. Jeffrey has his own line of cooking appliances and he turned me on
to his non-stick cast iron. I know that you don't cook. Okay, that's not a cooking appliance.
That's a pan.
A cooking appliance is like an oven or like a microwave.
So is a pan.
Okay, by the way, I meant to tell you.
I'm like looking at the computer.
You're screaming.
Okay.
You're going to blow out the microphone.
Just calm down a little bit.
A pan is not an appliance.
A pan is a utensil, like a tool.
I don't know.
I would call it cooking.
Appliances.
No, it's not appliances
what's their
like he has his own line
of cookware
cookware
cookware
fine
appliances like a stove
fine
I thought you were going to say
he's selling stoves
no that would be tough
I mean I guess you could
but
you could
no we cooked on a Viking
oh you cooked on a Viking
excuse me
excuse me Jeffrey
nonstick cast iron
like I know that you
literally haven't like
cooked anything in your life.
Like, anytime that you try to cook anything, it tastes like absolute garbage.
Ass, yeah.
Garbage.
For those that cook out there, this nonstick cast iron, holy smokes.
Where does he sell it?
I think he probably sells it online.
Okay.
That would be my guess.
Jeffersacarion.com slash something.
Do you work for Jeffrey now?
No, I don't even know if he has that website.
No domain.
I don't know. if he has that. No domain. I don't know.
I have no idea.
Like you're promoting him as much as you promote Spritz, which is I know why you're on the toast
with me today, why you agreed to donate some of your time.
It's because you have an ulterior motive.
And Ben, take the mic.
It's all you.
But before we get there, I just need to tell everybody how I, what I learned from Jeffery,
no?
Oh, I'm sorry.
I didn't know you were.
You literally skipped.
Like I'm in the middle of my Jeffery's segment.
Ben, what did you.
My Jeffery's is a segment.
Ben, what did you learn from Jeffery? I segment. Ben, what did you learn from Jeffrey?
I just want to say that we cooked the most unbelievable steak I've ever cooked in my entire life.
What do you think I put at the bottom of that nonstick cast iron pan?
Like, before you put the...
Yeah.
I would guess, like, people on TikTok are always putting, like, butter.
Yeah, butter, pan, olive oil.
Mm-hmm.
Ah!
Nothing.
Nothing.
Jeffrey puts nothing.
Three inches, hunk of meat, gorgeous bone-in ribeye, nice marbling.
The marbling comes from fat.
Put it face down and you just let the steak do its thing.
The fat becomes what you use to cook the steak.
So you're saying you think three inches is a big hunk of meat?
Three inches is a huge hunk of meat.
It's not as large as my meat.
Yeah. But it's a large hunk of meat. Three inches is a huge hunk of meat. It's not as large as my meat. Uh, yeah. But it's a large hunk of meat. I knew exactly what you were doing there. You
thought you were so slick. But Ben, you are donating your time here today, but I know
you had a message for the toaster. It's kind of a big day today in toast and spritz herstory.
Is that correct? It is. Um, back by popular demand. Today we are re-releasing Pink Lemonade.
So this episode's
going to be out early.
So what time will it be
on the website and stuff?
12 o'clock today.
Oh, okay.
12 Eastern.
So just right before
it goes live.
And, I mean,
you can speak for this flavor.
It's the best flavor
we've ever made.
And it's our fastest
selling flavor ever.
It's not even close.
Last time this sold out
in less than two days,
we made a limited quantity.
Again,
go to SpritzSociety.com slash pink lemonade and buy the sparkly pink drink that literally took over the internet.
Let me ask you a question.
I think I speak for all the fans when I say, what the hell took so long?
We've been asking for it for a while, Ben.
Have you not been working on it?
Have you been slacking off?
We've been working on it.
You think you're too famous because you're a celebrity with Jeffrey Zakarian that you don't have to tend to your businesses anymore?
I'm sorry. It's back.
What took so long?
What took so long is that it takes a lot of time
to reorder cans.
We are still a small business here.
You're supporting a small business.
People don't necessarily realize
we make it seem so big and flashy.
You're still supporting a small business.
We needed to reorder cans.
We needed to reformulate.
We needed to get more wine.
We had no idea how quickly. We needed to reformulate. We needed to get more wine. We needed to...
We had no idea
how quickly this thing
was going to sell.
Yeah.
And it's again in partnership
with the Skinny Confidential,
Lauren Bostic.
She's the best.
We love her.
The Spritz Society,
Skinny Confidential,
Pink Lemonade
is now available.
Get it before it's gone.
Get it before it's gone.
SpritzSociety.com.
You tell them, pops.
SpritzSociety.com
slash Pink Lemonade. So you obviously were here to do that. Don't try and get up from the table because you still have get it before it's gone. Get it before it's gone. Spritzsociety.com. You tell them, pops. Spritzsociety.com slash pink lemonade.
So you obviously were here to do that.
Don't try and get up from the table
because you still have to do the fast five with me.
Okay.
I was not here to only do that.
I'm kidding, pops.
It's called a joke.
And I think you should learn to start taking them.
All I gotta say is you,
you dish them.
You don't take them well.
It's so true.
It's kind of like the cancer in me.
That's what they say.
Like we're really mean,
but also really sensitive.
You dish, dish, dish. I do. I dish, dish, dish. What are you drinking in that cup? Water. It's so true. It's kind of like the cancer in me. That's what they say. Like, we're really mean, but also really sensitive. You dish, dish, dish.
I do. I dish, dish, dish. What are you drinking in that cup?
Water. It's pretty good.
Yeah?
Why? Is it loud?
No, it's not loud. It's just, um, I thought it was Snapple and I was going to ask for a sip.
No, it's water.
Cool.
Yeah. And if it was Snapple, I wouldn't share it with you.
Why?
Because you're giving off an energy.
A toxicity, would you say?
You are. You are.
Oh, I feel like I'm being, like, so funny asking you such good questions. Yeah, maybe. Maybe? Maybe. So what are you would you say? You are. How? I feel like I'm being so funny asking you such good questions.
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe?
Maybe.
So what are you trying to say?
I'm just saying tell the people how much you love pink lemonade.
Oh my god, guys, it always comes back to pink lemonade.
You're kind of like a toxic entrepreneur.
Yeah, I am.
Oh, okay, you own that?
I own that.
You should take that Instagram handle, the toxic entrepreneur.
I own it.
The toxipreneur.
I own it.
Okay.
I am.
I am. I am him. You're kind of like a psycho.
I am him.
Are you ready to do the past five with me?
I am.
So I can't lie.
Before we talk to everyone about the stories, I just want to be open and honest.
The stories are not great.
I feel like we've had three episodes with really good stories every single day.
And today, they're not great.
I just felt it was important that I say that.
We're going to have a good time. We're going to make I just felt it was important that I say that. We're going to have
a good time.
We're going to make
the most of it.
Ben is weirdly
like obsessed
with Olivia Rodrigo
these days
and we have a story
about her
so I can't wait
to hear what she has
that I don't have.
So Ben
do you think it's time?
It's time.
What's with the delay?
No I was just thinking
like yes it's time
for everybody to go
to SpritzSociety.com
slash pink lemonade
and order pink lemonade.
Ben
are you ready?
I'm ready, Freddie.
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All right, Ben, are you ready?
I'm ready.
So your girlfriend is making news.
Our first story of the day.
I want everyone to know Ben has worked from home two days this week.
Each day I came in, he was listening to the new Olivia Rodrigo album.
And not that that's crazy or anything, but you just don't like listen to current music. I've
never walked in and you were listening to Taylor Swift's new album. So are you in love with Olivia
Rodrigo? It's just, um, it's just pretty rare that I listened to an album and I think it's good.
And all I got to say is I think it's good. Yeah. It's very you. I think Guts is good. It's very me. It's very Paramore.
Yes.
It's very like me, you know, like a young teenage girl sitting in my room crying.
There was a young teenage girl sitting in your room crying?
No, that's me.
You're saying you're the teenage girl who was crying.
Exactly.
Expand on that.
No, I'm just saying I love Olivia Rodrigo.
I didn't know how much I loved Olivia Rodrigo.
Like, I think subconsciously
I've just been listening
To the song Vampire
Because like
You told me this
And I didn't even realize
I said to Claudia
I'm like
Why do people release songs
Like why release
The two best songs
And then all of a sudden
Put together an album
And the rest of it be crap
And she said that
That's literally what
Everybody has been doing
Forever when they release music
Where have I been living
Yeah
All I know is that
All the songs you hear On the radio Are singles that are released before an album comes out.
See, I didn't even realize.
But like, like albums have 15 songs and most people know two or three of them because those
are the singles that got released in anticipation before the album came out.
Got it.
I guess I always thought that the album came out and then there were singles that they
chose that they really liked that they just.
Sometimes it happens afterwards, like Taylor Swift.
But no, for the most part, it's like a strategy to get people hyped for the album.
Yeah, so I... So Ben, he's like, I know half these songs already.
Like you're so fucking special or something.
The problem is I don't remember any of the songs, but I remember that I really liked them.
So what's your favorite?
I think that my favorite, but I don't remember.
I don't like even remember what it sounds like, but my favorite was All-American Bitch.
Forgiving.
No, that's a different one.
I work my age and I act like.
No, that's the same one.
My perfect All-American.
I think that's it.
Yeah.
Whatever.
Really good.
Okay.
Really good.
Vampire, though. You know, I really relate to vampire because as a celebrity, having a wife that is just
like a normal plebeian, like the line, bloodsucker, famefucker, bleeding me dry like a goddamn
vampire.
That's how you feel?
It really resonated with me.
I know.
I see that.
There are a lot of lines that resonated with me.
One of them being, shut up, you're annoying, I hate you.
Blood sucker, fame fucker.
Get it, pops.
Bleeding me dry like a goddamn vampire.
So good.
No, she's really good.
She has an edge.
She's kind of like angsty.
Yeah, she's angry.
Angry.
Well, the story that I wanted to talk about is not the album.
It's that she's announcing a tour.
Great.
A world tour in 2024.
And it's kind of crazy.
She's been, like, a famous person, famous singer for, like, two years.
She's playing The Garden twice.
She did?
No, in this upcoming tour.
Has she ever toured?
Once before.
It was when her first album came out.
Weirdly went viral.
They didn't know if it was going to be, like, so she played like small theaters on she played like some of the
places that i do comedy like 1500 2000 people um people were really mad the tour sold out instantly
ticket master drama you know all that of course and price gouging right it was like a small tour
for someone who had an album that like defined the year almost. And so now with her,
she's making up for lost time.
It's a very long tour.
I think it's mostly arenas,
New York,
April 5th and 6th,
twice.
She's playing Madison square guardian,
which is just like so crazy for somebody so new to music,
even though she's like not new to music.
She's new to being famous as a musician.
I just want to know where is everybody coming up
with all this cash who taylor swift fans oh how are fans affording to go to all these concerts
like arena tours stadiums or all of these tickets are coveted tickets no and we're also in this like
time right now where so many people didn't tour during covid that like the first big wave of tours
is happening right now.
Beyonce, Taylor Swift, Ed Sheeran, John Mayer.
Like there's so many stadium and arena tours.
And I think people are really having to strategize where to spend their money.
Yeah.
Pick and choose.
You got to pick and choose.
Like who do you ride or die for?
Got to pick and choose.
Honestly, Olivia Rodrigo.
We have to go.
We have to go.
We have to.
I don't know.
You love her so much. Like, I don't think we can go.
No, we have to.
We have to.
I need backstage. Why? Honestly, I'm just going to bring a friend. Not me? I don't know you love her so much like I don't think we can go no we have to we have to I need backstage
honestly I'm just
going to bring a friend
not me?
I don't think so
why?
I just don't think
you can handle it
so like
so that you can
make out with Olivia and P's
I just don't think
you can handle it
let's say you're
in a room with Olivia
by the way
this is a good question
let's start a fight
do you think
Olivia Rodrigo's pretty?
I actually don't even know
if I know what she looks like
really?
yeah
I'll show you a picture
here look
turn around
how old is she?
um she's like. Really? Yeah. I'll show you a picture. Turn around. How old is she?
She's like 20.
She's very pretty.
You can think she's pretty if you want.
That's not like a normal picture.
Yeah, no, that's like a bad picture of her.
Literally showing me like a, honestly, a picture where it looks like she's giving fellatio.
It does. It's a very provocative.
She's supposed to be throwing up.
The album's called Guts.
Got it.
You know, you throw your guts up.
Do you like my use of the word fellatio? Yeah, you obviously had to make it disgusting. No, I to be throwing up. The album's called Guts. Got it. You know, you throw your guts up. Do you like my use
of the word fellatio?
Yeah, you obviously
had to make it disgusting.
No, I'm just saying like...
This is like actually
what she looks like.
Do you think she's pretty?
Oh.
You know what?
I'm not here to objectify women.
I think all women are pretty.
Well, I actually feel like
she's actually like your type.
If I had to imagine
because you very rarely tell me
like when you
think someone's pretty
because you think like
I can't handle it
no I can
you can't
no I can
you did one time
say that um
what's her name
Fiona from Shameless
Emmy Rossum
you said she was pretty
oh my god
you said she was pretty
I don't even think
she's pretty
but you said she's pretty
no but like
she's not
and like that's not my type
Fiona from Shameless like I said that I wouldn't objectify women I'm sorry I'm No, but like, she's not. And like, that's not my type. Fiona from Shameless,
like I said that I wouldn't
objectify women.
I'm sorry.
I'm out.
Okay, but I just...
I'm not interested.
I just feel like your type
is like really pale.
Check me.
Brunette.
Check me.
But also like weirdly
like very thin women.
Like...
No.
Are you just like
experimenting with me?
Nope.
Your tiny wife?
Am I just like a game to you?
Okay.
So one,
if we are like dissecting my type.
Definitely not pale.
Pale women.
Let me say something actually.
It's not a thing.
This might be one of like the craziest, most disgusting things I said and you might walk
off this tour.
I mean walk off this tour.
Walk off this podcast.
You know who I feel like your type is?
Who?
Not who, but like maybe I shouldn't say it.
It's like gross.
You should. Okay. I feel like you think girls not your type i think that you think girls are beautiful when they look like your
sister you what because your sister is very beautiful she's brunette light like very pale
honestly she kind of looks like emmy rossum so the fact that you said that you thought emmy rossum
was pretty you're just saying you're, it's a reflection of your family.
I think that's beautiful.
I don't mean it in a gross way.
Okay.
First and foremost,
you are disgusting.
You are disgusting.
That said,
my sister is a beautiful woman.
No, your sister happens to be
like an incredibly beautiful,
like naturally.
You are disgusting.
Okay.
I was trying to give a compliment.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now, let me explain to you
because you forced it out of me
what my type is.
Okay.
My type is not Emmy Rossum.
I actually could not dislike incredibly thin women objectively less.
Okay, here's the thing.
I need a voluptuous, I need a booty to grab.
Ben, Ben, Ben.
Maybe we're in this predicament where I don't really know your like celebrity crush type
because you just are like always like very shy and like protective of my feelings on the count
of three just say a celebrity who you think is very hot I've said this before Scarlett Johansson
you don't even need to count you've said that I've said that to you a hundred times you ask
these questions and then you forget I do and then you forget Sydney Sweeney Sydney Sweeney is really
hot wait so you like blonde girls no I don't care about hair color I care about this gorgeous I do. And then you forget. It's a really good answer. Sydney Sweeney. Sydney Sweeney is really hot.
Wait, so you like blonde girls?
No, I don't care about hair color.
I care about this gorgeous hourglass figure.
Not this skinny, skinny nothing.
Okay, okay, okay.
Don't like rag on the skinny girls.
They have feelings too, bitch.
By the way, that's fine.
It's not for me.
Okay.
So hourglass.
You like chunky men.
I do like chunky men.
So what's wrong with the skinny guy?
What about that guy that's one bone?
It's not my type
Oh okay
What about the skinny guys?
No I'm just saying it's not my type
Okay cool
Scarlett Johansson really?
That's a good answer Pops
A Jewish queen
Yeah she is
A rich girl
We love a rich girl
Sure
Money is an option
If I had all the money in the world
She's like the highest grossing actress She's the biggest actress of all time Renee Taylor If I had all the money in the world.
She's like the highest grossing actress.
She's the biggest actress of all time.
Renee Taylor.
Who the hell is that?
Oh!
Renee Taylor?
And you call yourself a fan.
Oh!
The grandma from The Nanny? The mom from The Nanny.
Fran Drescher's mom.
She's your type?
Gorgeous.
Just know, like, that is what I will look like when I'm older, just with that hair.
I absolutely cannot wait.
Do you think Fran Drescher in The Nanny, like what we're watching, she's beautiful?
Oh, yeah.
She's very beautiful.
For sure.
She kind of looks like your sister.
Okay.
I'm not trying to make it weird.
Okay.
I'm just saying, your sister happens to be very beautiful.
Yes, but I just, these, it's strange.
I think Maddie will hear this episode and be flattered.
I mean it in a nice way.
Okay, cool.
But you know,
interestingly enough,
Maddie's boyfriend
looks nothing like you.
Are you insulted?
No, not at all.
Maybe Maddie doesn't
think you're handsome.
Or maybe she,
uh,
yeah, it's interesting.
It is, right?
It's interesting.
All right,
Olivia Rodrigo's going on tour.
Oh, we're done with this?
Well, anything else you want to say besides for the fact that you're going and I'm not invited?
No, I'm just trying to think of more women that I find attractive.
Oh, you want to keep going?
Okay, sure.
No, I'm just saying, like, you literally told the world that my type is pale, skinny.
But you, I didn't tell the world, I guessed.
Emmy Rossum.
Okay, did you or did you not say when we were watching Shameless that you thought that Emmy Rossum was pretty?
I said that because you had said something and I wanted to bother you.
Oh, you were trying to start a fight.
Yes.
I am not a track star.
Oh, you didn't say you were trying to start a fight.
I'm not a track star.
All right, you know what?
Consider it.
Mila Kunis, 10 out of 10.
Do you see what she did?
No.
How do you literally operate in the world and you don't know anything?
I don't know.
Tell me.
Do you remember that 70s show?
Of course.
I'm about to blow your mind.
Of course. Danny Masterson. Of course, yes. I know anything. I don't know. Tell me. Do you remember that 70s show? Of course. I'm about to blow your mind. Of course.
Danny Masterson.
Of course, yes.
I know everything.
You know that he's been on trial
for drugging and raping two women.
Terrible.
And he was found guilty.
And then last week was the sentencing.
He was going to get a sentence.
They didn't know how long
he was going to go to jail for.
And he had people in his life,
him and his lawyers,
his family reached out to people in his life
to write letters on his behalf just attesting to his character.
He's a good man who made a mistake.
Please go easy on him.
And Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher wrote letters on his behalf.
And it became public information.
And they had to release a video.
And they were like, we're sorry.
Not a good week for Mila Kunis.
But if we're looking past that, I agree.
She is very beautiful.
So yeah, maybe not the best time to bring her up.
Are you ready for the next story?
I'm ready.
So Taylor Swift is obviously going viral.
She was doing a lot at the VMAs.
And one of the moments that is going viral, she was wearing a bunch of jewelry.
She was wearing a ring that cost $12,000.
It's a vintage ring, one of a kind.
And she broke it.
Okay.
And it's all caught on camera.
So she appears to have broken the $12,000 vintage ring she wore to the VMAs.
Video captured the moment an entire search party gathered in the hopes of recovering the missing piece.
Like the big stone in the middle fell out.
Like the expensive part.
Okay.
It's unclear what exactly had transpired, but shows a mortified taylor holding up the vintage accessory with the
massive diamond missing from the center of the ring this led to several guests vma staffers and
taylor herself combing the area in the hopes of finding the gem the results of their effort remain
unknown but sadly for taylor she was not pictured wearing the ring for the remainder of the night
twelve thousand dollar ring What do you think
comparatively that is for like us? That's like what me wearing like a $1 ring? No, no. Like a
$1 ring? $12,000 is still a lot of money. No. So I have two thoughts. It's probably like like maybe
for a normal person like wearing a $100 ring. I have two thoughts. Because she probably knows that
it's an expensive ring. So what's an expensive ring for normal people like 100 200 dollars let me know let me know when you want my two thoughts go go go okay thought number
one 12 grand for taylor swift peanuts yeah literally freaking peanuts but it's more so
that it's like a rare vintage thing you know i understand that rare vintage thing is insured
okay so she's gonna get her money back and also, how do we know that she didn't find that stone on the floor,
put it in her pocket, all of a
sudden, she's pictured without the ring,
claims it on insurance, insurance fraud, she
keeps the ring, gets the cash. But like you
said, $12,000 is peanuts, so why would you commit
a crime for peanuts?
Excellent point. Potentially. This case
is dismissed.
Bring in the dancing lobsters.
This case is dismissed. Not a bad dancing lobsters. Case is dismissed.
Not a bad theory, but incorrect in my opinion.
I think she was drunk and she was just like having a good time.
What's the worst thing you ever lost when you were drunk?
Oh.
It's so scary.
Like when you think back in hindsight of all the things you've lost,
just like out as a young person drinking.
I used to for a long time like lose a wallet every two months.
You've pretty much lost everything that you own.
But in recent years you've gotten better.
I've started to get much, much better.
Yes.
I used to be very careless with my things.
I've gotten much, much better.
You have.
I don't think that, yeah.
I don't know.
You?
The craziest thing I've ever lost?
I don't know. You? The craziest thing I've ever lost? I don't know.
Yeah.
I know the craziest thing that you've ever stole when you were drunk.
What?
That hat.
Yes.
I wanted to kill you.
That was a crazy night.
How old were we?
Probably like 21 and 23.
This was like you still getting high off
being able to get
into clubs
with your real ID.
Claudia goes into
this club
that we frequented.
Let me tell the story.
What club was it?
VIP room?
Yeah.
Such a great club.
It was.
I'm so black out
and at the front of the club
they have this like
little merch booth.
They sell like hats
and t-shirts
with the club's name on it
like who the fuck wants that?
By the way,
guess how much the hat was?
I don't even remember.
40 bucks?
I do 150. That's why I was so angry that you stole it and by the
way i was such a fucking psychopath yeah like wait let me tell you a story i don't really
remember how it goes but like i was drunk i think you were peeing i was waiting for you outside the
bathroom just to clarify you're like screaming at me to tell the story and then you say i don't
know how it goes i know literally everything okay tell tell it okay cool so claudia loves this hat on the way in yeah and on the way out even though she is a
completely well-off woman yeah has plenty of money i have plenty of money we have no issues
no issues at all could have easily paid for it steals the hat and runs out the door yeah steals
the hat in plain sight and runs out the door runs runs into a cab. She shows me the hat and I am freaking out.
I'm like, oh my God.
No, that's not what happened.
You're going to get arrested.
Ben, that's not what happened.
What?
I actually was detained.
Okay, I was waiting for you.
You were peeing.
We were leaving.
I'm standing outside the merch booth waiting for you.
I take the hat and literally put it under my arm
like some sort of criminal.
And a bouncer fully sees me and is like,
ma'am, what are you doing?
Oh yeah, that's true. And you walk out as it's happening and i realized i've been caught and i'm like oh i
want to buy this hat but nobody's here to but to like sell it to me so we were forced to pay for
it which we never would have paid 150 for a hat so we take the hat we leave you're screaming at
me in the cab about stealing and you get so mad and you take the hat and you throw it out the window that does sound and we just paid for it that does sound entirely possible
that's what happened by the way maybe you weren't even drunk at all maybe you're just a thief
i don't have a theory problem although i did recently steal an umbrella from like a restaurant
you know those like communal buckets where everybody puts their umbrella and it was raining
so hard and there was like this amazing umbrella. And I did take it.
And I did feel bad.
But I just hope the person whose umbrella it was
like knows that I was really drunk.
And it's still in our house.
I use it all the time.
Like it's in a good, happy home.
Oh, the communal umbrella bucket
where people put their umbrellas.
Yeah, they bring their own from home.
And then instead of dragging a wet umbrella
through the restaurant,
there's like, it looks like a trash bin,
but it's actually just for umbrellas to dry off.
Got it. So let me paint a picture. And I just want to say, like if I brought my own fucking umbrella from home and, there's like a, it looks like a trash bin, but it's actually just for umbrellas to dry off. Got it.
So let me paint a picture for you.
And I just want to say,
like if I brought my own
fucking umbrella from home
and some wench stole it,
like I would be so upset.
So I know it's wrong.
I know stealing is wrong.
Let me paint a picture for you.
Pose a scenario.
You're on the street.
Starts to rain.
Not just rain.
Starts to pour.
You look across from you
and all of a sudden there's an elderly woman with a gorgeous, gorgeous umbrella.
You run over to that elderly woman.
You punch her in the face.
You steal her umbrella.
That's essentially what you did and you left her with absolutely nothing.
No, it was late at night.
You robbed an old woman.
It was a very cool members club slash restaurant.
And it was very late at night.
The person was in their 20s
like i'm telling you also there's a solid chance that it was nobody's umbrella and it was like a
lost and found umbrella no zero chance it was it was like torrential downpouring it was fucked up
it was fucked up but honestly i can't live with regrets all right are you ready for our next story
oh this is crazy i don't know if you heard about this.
Delta is issuing new rules making it much harder to get into their airport lounges.
Wow.
So they just announced, it won't happen until February 2025, so we have like a year and a half,
but they are changing how customers can earn elite frequent flyer status and is making it much harder for many American Express cardholders to get into the airport lounges,
the latest reality check for air travel's
era of mass luxury.
Starting January 1,
customers will earn Delta Medallion's status
solely based on their spending
instead of a combination of dollars
spent with the carrier.
So they're just like changing a bunch of things.
Like, you know, if you have a Platinum Amex
or if you have a Delta Amex,
that gets all the things we've all been doing
these last few years,
getting different credit cards
to get us into the lounge.
No.
If you have the Amex for Delta, you get to go into the lounge six times a year it's not unlimited
anymore what about the platinum six times a year okay all i gotta say is i'm getting rid of my
platinum yeah like i'm not paying the 600 a year if i can't go whenever i want 600 yes oh man i'm
not paying that if i can't go to the lounge all the time. But I feel conflicted because I think any true Delta girly will know they've gotten a little loose with the lounges.
The lounges are not luxury anymore.
It's just as – honestly, you have an easier time finding a chair at your gate than you do in the lounge.
It's not – it doesn't feel exclusive.
So they definitely needed to tighten up a little bit.
But they're taking this too far.
Yeah, or maybe they could just have slightly less flights. Like like they're money hungry and they're taking it out on us
they have the more flights the more people the more people in the lounges you know and all of a
sudden they're taking away our lounge privileges and all i gotta say is do you know who's responsible
for this who tom brady why last week tom brady became the strategic advisor for delta did you
not see this article that we reported on the good guys?
I did see.
I did see. You did.
I did.
I did.
I did.
I'm just saying, as his first mission, screw the people.
So instead of the current unlimited visits starting February 1, 2025, American Express
Platinum and Platinum business card holders will get six visits a year unless they spend
$75,000 on the card in a calendar year.
That's a lot of money.
It's nuts.
That's a lot of money for like a crap perk.
So first I need to fly commercial.
Right.
Right?
Like.
Yeah, as if things couldn't get worse.
I'm just saying, if you're spending 100 grand on your credit card.
You don't need to be flying commercial.
You don't need to be flying commercial?
No, that's like a little nuts.
Nuts.
This sucks. card you don't need to be flying commercial you don't need to be flying commercial no that's like a little nuts nuts um this sucks and i feel like so many people have spent like the last couple of years building like amazing status at delta spending money on credit cards just to like
delta's like a good airline to have put your money towards because they have good perks and they have
good credit cards and they have good lounges and like for what now for what we can't even get in all i gotta say who's gonna be in there i don't know not me not
me all i gotta say is i am uh pretty airline agnostic i recently i picked the times that i
like and for the first time ever i got upgraded from coach i don't know if you guys know i fly
coach with the people we What would we expect?
I don't know.
You first class?
Like not to be rude.
Like I'm actually like I have scoliosis.
Like I need to be in first class.
It's true.
You do.
You do. Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm like my father who has scoliosis.
I got upgraded from economy to first class on United.
And what was that like?
Was it United?
No.
We haven't taken off yet.
Oh. Oh. in a future flight.
In a future flight.
Is it a lay flat bed or a recliner?
Definitely a recliner.
Not as good.
No, but it doesn't matter.
It's still super cool.
Like, flight to San Antonio.
Why did you get special treatment?
I think that I've accrued enough United points.
You do travel a lot.
United enough.
But this is the first time that United has ever given me a perk.
I just want to go on the record and say I think this Delta thing is like absolute bullshit.
Bullshit.
And I'm like really upset about it.
Me too.
Fuck them.
Unless of course they want to sponsor us.
I know.
I said what I said.
Like honestly this is not cool.
I know that you said what you said but again I want to go on record and speak for the good
guys and just say that I will retract everything bad that I've ever said about any brand if they want to pay me
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Are you ready for this next story, which is like kind of moronic?
Ready, Freddie.
I'm sure you've heard about the escaped prisoner in pennsylvania
no a prisoner he's a murderer he got out how i don't know well there's actually security footage
of him like getting out did you help him no i know you have a history of stealing
um and he was missing for like quite a few days and like all the police in pennsylvania like it
was like this worldwide manhunt for this guy.
And they got him, which is obviously a big deal,
but that's not the news story.
The police people have gone viral
because they posed for a group photo
with the captured prisoner when they found him.
And I guess, like, a news helicopter
was flying above the manhunt,
and they got it on camera when they foundunt, and they got it on camera when
they found him, and they got it on camera of all these guys taking a picture of this
escaped prisoner.
Do you not think this is funny?
No, I mean, I'm just confused.
So they caught him, and they asked him for a selfie, and then they took him away?
They didn't ask him for a selfie.
Let me read you the story.
Law enforcement officials posed for a group photo with an escaped murderer, Danilo Cavalcante,
following his arrest on Wednesday morning.
In a video posted online, a couple dozen heavily armed law enforcement agents wearing camouflage
protective suits are seen gathering around Cavalcante, the escaped prisoner, who was
handcuffed and in the center of the group.
The visual was captured from an aerial view.
The moment captured on video marked the end of a nearly two-week manhunt for the convicted Jesus. in 2021 in front of her two young children he um his ability to evade capture exceeded officials
expectations and put the pennsylvania community on edge for weeks people who live in the area
have been like freaking for two weeks that there's like an escape he's like a very dangerous person
out on the loose and so that was the news story but now they got him and you would think that
that everyone's going to be like celebrating the relief people can't get over the fact that all
them took a group photo with him. It's so weird.
It is, right?
It's kind of like the same energy, though, of the guy that goes like mule hunting
and then takes a picture with the head of the mule.
So the state police department lieutenant was at a press conference
and he was asked about it.
He defended the law enforcement officials for taking the photo
and he said, I'm not bothered by it.
Well, that's that on that.
Like, I don't think there's anything, like, unethical about it.
I don't think it goes against, like, police protocol.
Like, it's just weird.
Yeah.
It's definitely weird.
I'm trying to think if it's unethical at all.
Wait, he continued.
He said, I'm not bothered at all by the fact that they took a photograph with him in custody.
Again, they're proud of their work.
They kept the community safe.
I say thanks to them and good custody. Again, they're proud of their work, they kept the community safe, I say thanks to them, and good job.
Okay, I agree.
Maybe they are just proud.
It's actually a great comparison
of, like, taking a picture of a deer head.
But see, the reason why it's not a great comparison
is because the deer didn't do anything.
You know?
Well, that makes it worse for the deer.
That's what I'm saying.
People shouldn't take pictures with animals.
I agree.
It's not nice.
I agree.
It's not nice at all.
It's not nice at all.
You should hunt if you're going to hunt with the sole purpose of eating.
So show us your feast.
Show us your feast.
I want to see if you take a picture with a freaking deer head.
I want to see that you ate the whole fucking deer.
Yeah.
I want to see every fucking inch gone.
Every single inch.
Have you ever hunted?
No.
You're such like an animal lover, but I feel like you've been like invited to hunt.
Well, my trip to San Antonio where United is upgrading me to first class, I am going
skeet shooting.
That's not hunting.
Okay, but it's training me to hunt.
No, it's not.
You're just like breaking plates.
No, with a gun.
I'm using a gun.
It's not a gun.
Yeah, it is.
It's skeet. No.
Wait. What? Like, you're
not shooting real bullets, are you?
It's the same thing. No. Hold on.
I think it is.
Like, I don't think you can kill someone.
No, no. It's clay shooting.
Thank you. It's not real bullets. By the way,
I think you could still kill someone. No, you could probably
take an eye out. Yeah, it's not good, though.
It's clay. Yeah. Okay. No, you could probably take an eye out. Yeah, it's not good, though. It's not good. It's clay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm just saying.
So you shoot clay at plates?
I'm not sure.
All I know is I'm entering into some competition in San Antonio, Texas.
Oh, a competition?
Can't wait for you to lose.
Yeah, well, hopefully I win.
But I'm probably going to lose.
And I'm sorry to my team because I just, I was not born to shoot a gun.
Hunting is not like a, like I know it's like an art for some people and I really, I do respect it, but I could never.
I, look, if I was in.
Because first of all, I don't want to eat that shit.
Like I want a restaurant to prepare food for me.
I want, you know, like I don't want to be a part of the process.
I think some people find that part very exciting.
So I would like to be a part of the process but only if like that was the only way
that I was getting meat. No you're saying if you lived in the woods of course you would hunt to
eat. Or if I lived on a farm. God farm to table. That's what they say. And only by the way these
places pretending that they're farm to table when their table is in a restaurant in Manhattan.
That's not farm to table. But it is. No it's not. It's farm to warehouse to table. No. I'm talking farm to table.
It's farm to warehouse
to truck to table.
Correct.
No, but you're right.
Farm to warehouse to truck
to chef to table.
To chef.
You know,
if you live on a farm like that,
actually, it sounds idyllic.
Like, to grow your own.
It's a lot of work.
That's it.
If you live on a farm,
you don't need to hunt.
Right.
That's what they do.
You raise.
It's even harder.
But you also could raise
chickens is that considered hunting like to just kill your own chickens no that's called killing
hunting is the act of going tracking shooting would you be more inclined let's say
bullet or bow and arrow what would make you feel worse? You know, at my summer girls camp, I did archery quite a bit.
I was actually excellent at it.
I think I had a natural ability for the archer and the bow.
And just like Taylor Swift said, I've been the archer.
I've been the prey.
You know?
I was just trying to think, like like how could you be the archer
and the prey
like the thing is
I've never shot a gun
yeah
and
you shouldn't
I don't think
but you should pick back up the bow
the thing is
like I actually don't think
I could really pull the trigger
like I think I would be freaked out
but I think I could buck with
like you know
Katniss Everdeen energy
and you know
strap
strap a bow and arrow
on my back
and I'm just saying like
if we were hungry...
But it's much harder to accurately kill something with a bow.
As it should be hard.
It shouldn't be easy.
See, that's what I'm saying.
The thing about guns, which is such a problem when hunting,
it's too easy.
Yeah, it's not a fair fight.
It's not a fair fight.
But hunting is such a sport.
I was watching Luke Holmes on Joe Rogan.
It's like a three-hour interview.
The first 30 minutes, I'm loving it.
Then they start talking about hunting.
They don't stop.
Literally the rest of the episode, I turn it off.
I was like, I have no idea what's going on.
But like hunting turkeys is different than hunting moose or whatever.
No, I get it.
I have plenty of celebrity friends that hunt.
Oh, my God.
They hunt big-time hunters.
Who?
I can't share.
Who?
I can't disclose.
I can't disclose.
Okay.
Actually spoken like a true celebrity. I can't disclose. I can't share. I can't disclose. So. I can't disclose. Okay. Actually spoken like a true celebrity.
I can't disclose.
I really appreciate you being on the show.
Of course.
You're a doll.
Thank you, darling.
Is that it?
Yeah, we're done.
We didn't do five stories.
Did we not?
No, you skipped one, I think.
No.
Taylor Swift, Olivia Murphy.
Oh, I did.
Oh, you'll like this story.
Thank you.
I chose this story for you.
You're welcome.
By the way, the last time we were together, you also only did four stories.
Jackie usually does the stories.
I'm like not good with the stories.
I also have to do the ads.
I also have to bring the character.
You know, I have to bring the humor.
It's a lot.
I mean, I literally brought the character and humor.
You literally could have sat here and not spoken.
Okay, this next story, I feel like you're going to love.
What's love got to do?
Got to do with it, babe.
Some viral news, also from the VMA Awards.
There was so much VMA news, we didn't get to all of it on yesterday's show.
Ashanti and Nelly are dating.
They are rekindling their romance.
They dated both in their heydays.
And they announced on the pink carpet at the VMAs that they are seeing each other again.
So, Nelly, it's getting hot in here.
Ashanti.
What's love got to do, got to do.
And they were like hip hop icons in the 90s, early 2000s.
And I think they dated back then.
And now they've kind of rekindled their romance.
And Nelly has proven to be like such a precious gem of a man.
Like I think the more we get to know Nelly in these recent years,
we see the real Nelly, and he's, like, a very sweet guy and, like, a kind of cutie.
I love this.
I'm just saying you tried to trick me with that song
because you didn't change your inflection from What's Love Got To Do With This.
You made it in the exact same tone.
I was going to say, What's love got to do with this?
That's not what I said.
No, you literally said, What's love got to do? Got to do with this. That's not what I said. No, you literally said,
What's love got to do?
You didn't go an octave lower.
Sing the song and I'll do the got to do.
This is what I did.
This is so stupid.
No, it's true.
What's love got to do?
See?
Got to do with it, babe.
What's love? The got to do needs to be a whole octave lower.
It should be about trust, babe. Do you even know what song it's on? What's love? The got to do needs to be a whole octave lower. It should be about us, it should be about trust, babe.
It's...
Do you even know what song it's...
What's love got to do, got to do with it?
They're two different people.
One's a guy, one's a girl.
They're different octaves.
Just, just say...
Also, what song came out first?
The other one.
What's love got to do, got to do with it?
It really puts me in the mood Honestly
I never like put that together
That those two songs
That have the same exact verse
I mean chorus
They're the same
You know how many fucking songs
Are just rip offs of another song
So true
I mean
You know how many movies
Are just a rip off of another movie
That's kind of one of the biggest
Allegations being made
Against your girl Olivia Rodrigo
Is that like a lot of her music
Sounds like other music
Paramore
Miley Cyrus
Taylor Swift
And with her first album
She was actually forced
To give writing and producing credits
to Taylor Swift and to Paramore
because they sounded so similar.
And she's experiencing something like that
with this new album.
People are really saying that her song,
Get Him Back,
sounds a lot like Miley Cyrus's.
I'm gonna start all over
Out of the fire
And into the fire again
You make me want to forget
And start all over
Such a good song.
Do you hear the similarity
when you listen to
No.
No, listen.
This is Olivia Rodrigo.
The fuck, how does it go?
I don't know.
Get it back. I don't know at all okay whatever it sounds
really similar okay okay all i gotta say is if they would like olivia rodrigo to stop making
songs that sound exactly like other songs that are in the exact genre then we need to throw the
genres out the window because at some point the alt punk genre for example that I am keeping alive
kicking day in and day out you can't make songs sound that different you're
gonna take inspiration they're gonna sound similar it's the same notes
there's only one there's only so many strings on the guitar it's true it's
true I think there's a really fine line between like we need to be open and
honest and realistic about about the fact that there are only so many chords.
But at a certain point, a copy is a copy.
And I think with the last album, the two songs with Paramore and Taylor Swift, it needed to be done.
The Paramore song needed to be done.
Yeah.
A thousand percent.
Yeah.
That said, so good.
You're so good.
You're so good.
I love you.
I love you more.
Thank you for doing this.
For real.
You are very welcome. Just a quick reminder. Again, Spritz I love you more. Thank you for doing this, for real.
You are very welcome.
Just a quick reminder, again, SpritzSociety.com slash PinkLemonade.
Really get it before it's gone.
Last time you guys didn't believe us.
You didn't believe us and I don't really know why.
Do I strike you as a liar?
Not at all.
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