The Toast - Wicked Witch? West Wilson: Tuesday, June 2nd, 2026

Episode Date: June 2, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:09 It's Jackson, Claude and every show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Tuesday. Tuesday period. You could hope for later in the week. We hope and we dream.
Starting point is 00:00:33 I was shocked to find out that it's only Tuesday. And like today's such a Tuesday. When I woke up this morning and like did the quick math of what day, it is like yesterday was only Monday. Very disappointing stuff. And it was a long day. But Tuesdays are exciting because... It's a big Tuesday. We've got Summer House reunion tonight.
Starting point is 00:00:48 We've got Love Island premiere. When one who closes another one opens. Here toasters. Do you see they dropped another Islander from the villa? No. Yeah, a guy. Hoomsed. Was it sincere?
Starting point is 00:00:58 I forget what it was that he did. No, no. Cast member is sincere. Oh, I thought it was like was a sincere action. I don't know. Like, I don't know. You can speak to the sincerity? No, but I'll never get to know him because he's been dropped from the villa.
Starting point is 00:01:10 I do believe he was actually dropped before the other girl he never even made air but people are just finding out that she's actually the second person to be um dropped from the villa he was dropped before her but we're just signing out about it but he never made it to air he wasn't in the package like they found out just in the nick of time oh great great i mean good what did he do i don't remember but you know it was along the lines of like your regular regular. Slur. I feel like that's like the Love Island bar is like the slur, right?
Starting point is 00:01:43 Everyone who's got picked out. Slurza. Slurza. Sierra. New girl whose name I never knew, which is good because she can go on to lead a regular life as if this never. Like I didn't even say her name in the story yesterday. Not because I was trying to protect her, but because it was like not.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Irrelevant. Yeah. And it's like good. You know what? No harm, no foul. It's true. It's like you're never even here. To your job.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Yeah. So that starts tonight. Like I have to get into the mental head space. But it's good day. I kind of like don't have a lot of things to watch. Last time I started watching off campus again. Just because I felt like I didn't like give it the proper. Like I had such a bad attitude going into it last time.
Starting point is 00:02:16 And you just won't watch Italian job. Anything to not watch Italian job. I feel like you keep forgetting that. What time do you get in bed to watch TV? That feels like really embarrassing. No, okay. I just want to send you a scheduled text message at 702. It did occur to be last night.
Starting point is 00:02:35 It occurred, okay. But Ben was out playing basketball with your husband, and it feels like something I should watch with Ben. I agree. It's a joint, it's a joint partnership. It's like, what could I do alone, rewatch off campus? Okay. I finished my book last night, yesterday.
Starting point is 00:02:47 The book, the name on everybody's lips. It is. We are recording redheads today. I don't know if you saw, and I had seen this before, we talked about it on the toast. Actually, the audience of people is quite divided on who the book is about,
Starting point is 00:02:58 because a lot of people are saying it's more Ruby Frank than Ballerina Farm. Although Ruby Frank was not a track, wife. Right. I guess she was a traditional wife in the sense that she was at home with the kids, but she wasn't making butter or bread or farming. So I would say until 85% of the book, it's Ballerina Farm only.
Starting point is 00:03:14 And then once the psychological thriller starts happening, like when things start to piece together of us to understanding like what's going on because the book is confusing, like how did we go back into the past? Like where's the time machine? Then the last 15% I'm like, oh, inspired by Ruby Frank. Elk.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Got it. Okay, so like a blend. Yeah, but Mostly ballerina and it's just like so unfair because it's like the book about ballerina farm and it paints her out to be a monster. Every time like somebody does like a cultural commentation, whether it's fiction or nonfiction on ballerina farm, it's always from a negative angle.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Yeah. Like I'm ready for the ballerini tell all. Like she should come on this podcast. This is a safe space. Like I want to know like do you care that you're not a ballerina anymore because I really feel like you don't. No. Why would she care? I know, but everyone's like he stole her dreams of being a ballerina. And it's like well she also like grew up and had kids and like you can't be a ballerina forever.
Starting point is 00:04:01 All ballerinas have to throw in the tutu at point. Except Misty Copeland. And actually she has a studio at her farm where she can rain all she wants. She can ballerine to her heart's content. Correct. I would love to chat with it. It was really frustrating. I'm excited that we're doing a whole episode and because I have so many different thoughts. Like the book was so outrageous and was making like so many different points and like it was just it was a lot. Now of course it's going to be a sensational book because I think it's about like one of the most fascinating topics, which is like female influencers, fame, farm, family, faith. So whether or not it's a good book, I understand why it's the book. Why everyone's
Starting point is 00:04:42 talking about it. And you know, it's being turned into a movie. Anne Hathaway is playing the lead. And then in the acknowledgement, she said, like, thank you so, I, you know, I was so fortunate to put this book in front of people before it was even done to get their feedback. And Hathaway being one of those people. Meanwhile, it's her first book. So how did your first book reach Ann Hathaway? And like, how did everybody know it was going to be the book? And Amazon. I think everyone was just excited to, like, read something salacious about ballerina. Okay, I just want to say, I didn't read the book, but I don't think that's a good casting.
Starting point is 00:05:12 She's playing Hannah Ballerina. Natalie. Whatever. I don't think that's a good casting. Natalie Heller Mills. But I just know Daisy Edgar Jones is somewhere just kicking her. Like, she's no longer the book girl, Ann Hathaway is. But we did need someone a little bit older.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Oh, yeah? Like a little bit because it's... How old are the kids? Um, there are so many. How old's the youngest one? Uh, 10. Oh, okay. So Anne Hathaway.
Starting point is 00:05:34 But at one point, you know, she has her first. Oh, right, right, right. So it's coming of age tale. It spans a lot of time. Maybe I will read it. I would love to get your thoughts. You know, I still have to read, like, Jenna. I'm like, I have so much.
Starting point is 00:05:45 I would love to get your thoughts because there's no way anyone comes away from this book with, like, not strong opinions because it's a very outrageous book. Whether or not you're like, yes, stick it to the man. Yeah. Or you're like, this is a farce. Yeah, to me, like, I just don't, I don't get involved in, like, mocking tradwife culture. It's just such a low-hanging for it. Like, everybody does it. Like, I'm just, I don't know, I'm just more creative than that. Yeah, I just, I don't understand,
Starting point is 00:06:12 like, the point of the book, like, what she's trying to say, because it's like, she's obviously clowning on women who, like, follow a traditional trajectory who, like, you know, center faith and family. And, okay. But then she's also clowning on, like, the liberal women that ballerina went to heart, like, not ballerina. Yesterday. went to Harvard with, she went to Harvard. She's just a woman who hates all women. It seems like it. And then at what...
Starting point is 00:06:35 I kind of love that. It seems like we're about to, like, get a third kind of woman. Who maybe... Centrist. Maybe she's endorsing, but that person turns out to be, like, so awful. So it's more of a commentary, a commentary on women in general. Like how, I guess, women just can't win. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:54 But I don't feel that way. I don't either. So I disagree. Okay. I think, like, there's a problem. hard things about being a woman. I think sometimes you know you follow a path that's not right for you or you know you get boxed in somewhere but the idea
Starting point is 00:07:06 that like all women are unhappy. Yeah like all roads whether you're a working mom, whether you're a stay at home mom, whether you're stay at home mom who works like they're all bad. They're all bad. I'm like that's a bad message. I actually don't like that. The message is that they're all bad that society hates women. America hates women. The world is set up for women to fail and the world is set up for women to fail. I do want to say I agree with her on that.
Starting point is 00:07:26 But like I don't like the woman experience being told like for all angles, like so negative. Yeah, there's not a good one. Like no one's life that you want to emulate? No. Hate that. Hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, like seriously hate.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Yeah, so that's why I don't get like what the message. And not that it matters, but does the author herself have children? I don't know. I was trying to like learn more about this author. I think that she's married. Mm-hmm. But I wasn't seen children, which I need to, I need to. Children, children.
Starting point is 00:07:56 I need to confirm that before the episode because that will like inform. my opinion even more because like it's easy to like commentate on things you know nothing about yeah like this woman in the book I don't want to spoil how many kids she has because it's actually part of this she doesn't have kids in the book
Starting point is 00:08:14 the author but in the book she has like you know a lot of kids and she hates motherhood like she hates every minute I'm not reading this book I know it's like I just want to say I'm not reading this book I don't made a very concerted effort I can't understand someone who would have five plus children and and doesn't enjoy being a mother like
Starting point is 00:08:30 Well, I think the commentary is like she's being forced to. No, she's not. Well, I don't want to. Okay. I'm just going to. She is so not being forced to. Okay. She's forcing them.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Okay. So I just want to say that like I'm not reading this book because. Update author might have a child. Oh, we're not clear. I just don't believe in inundating your mind with negative things. Like it's hard enough. So I'll read Lena Dunham instead or I'll just watch off campus for the third time. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Well, anyways, it's just a lot. There's just a lot to chew on. Can I clue you into something fun that's going on in off-campus sphere? First of all, they've been renewed for the second season. They started filming yesterday. And like one of the breakout stars from this first season, not the main girl, but she's the main character in the next season. You know, a lot of them are in relationships,
Starting point is 00:09:14 but like they're these young, hot thangs. First one has fallen, her and her fiance broke up. That's a big deal. Wait, say that again. So one of the actresses, she was on the first season. She was not like the main girl, but she's the breakout star because she's in this other couple. That's being featured in the second season.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Okay. So a lot of these young up-and-coming actors are almost like all in relationships, but they're like hot young things who like are on the scene now. The first couple has fallen. The girl, her fiance have not lasted. They broke up. Okay. And like one of them is married to his high school sweeter. Like it's, no, sorry, engaged to his high school sweeter.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Like it's all really cute. But like I kind of need them to be single because they need to do that Riverdale thing where they all like mesh and date. Like I do think it'll affect the outcome of the show. So I'm glad that Ali. I think her real name is Mika and her man have broken up. But like I need others. Oh, you're glad that they're breaking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Well, you know how I feel. Like when it's a girl, like, she's being held back by her, like, a loser boyfriend. Like, she's a star now. She needs to date other stars. But if it's a guy, and I'm like, you, right, right, Robert Herdeback. I'm like, you left your wife at home. Like, I think it's disgusting. But on the other hand, like, if they do live in ordinary life, they can be original and violent in their work.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Very true. So sometimes that stability at home, like, creates, like, great art, conditions for great art. That's beautiful. So you can argue both sides. You can. I thought it was going to be sad that they broke up. Like, one taste of faming you're out the door. Exactly. I love that. I love that for a woman. Like, oh, if men do that, like, that's seriously so Robert Hergebeck.
Starting point is 00:10:36 I know what pains you know for me to talk about Robert Hurtigueck. And I can admit that, like, what he did was bad, of course, like, leaving his ex-wife for his standing with the Star's partner, especially like the wife that's been with him for a hundred years. They're the same age. Yeah, like he's with his new girl now for a long time. They had twins. Like, at some point you can move on. You have to, like, you have no choice. That's what I mean, like, you know, with West and Amanda. if they go on to get married and have kids, like, I will move on. Yeah. But until then, obviously.
Starting point is 00:11:03 So I think let today mark the first day that I'm moving on from Robert Hergevac. Okay, that's great. Maybe. They've crossed the line. The threshold. Get the threshold for like however long. I feel like you need to find, like, just a different example to cite, you know? It's true.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Oh, I'm sorry. One more thing I wanted to tell you about off campus because I know how much you care is, like, this song that's going viral from it, which is like playing in the show during, like, the two protagonists that finally get together. And then there's like a love montage of them just like being in love and like having Xax and like going to class. And this song is so good. And you know who sings it?
Starting point is 00:11:35 Like such a random pop culture crossover. Do you know, does it name G Flip mean anything to you? Chrishell's. Michelle's wife. Wife. They got married. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's like a big Australian artist.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Yeah. And so this is like a huge amount of her. She's all over my TikTok. It's like the best thing to ever happen. She's like, I can't fucking wait to do shows in the States. And it's a really good song. I actually think you would like it. It's called Bed on Fire.
Starting point is 00:11:58 I'm sure I would like it. I've seen videos of her singing before. I've seen videos of her playing drums. I've seen videos. She sang a song like it's raining men, but she changed it to it's raining them. Obsessed. For the non-binary community. It was really good.
Starting point is 00:12:13 I think she's. She they? She they. Okay. So she works like for me. All that aside, it's raining them was very good. I love that. I've seen her perform quite a bit.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Like she's always like playing drums singing. in guitar and harmonica at the same time. She's like one of those. And I never actually heard any of her original music. And this is my first time. It's actually really good. Just non-Bagnary. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Sorry. Anyways, that's what's going on off-campus. Great. You think you're going to watch? No. It's not for you. It's not for you. It's not for you.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Has it not penetrated your... Not really. You've mentioned it and then one person in our group chat. No. Oh, Casey. Yeah, but Satchler also was posting about it a lot. But like, she, post about a lot of stuff that's like not for me. So like I'm not like it was just you and in our group chat.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Our friend was like I'm watching this. And that's really it. Like I wouldn't really have heard of it if not for that. It hasn't like penetrated offline. I got so into like the free page that I ended up on like some Canadian like Congress. They were petitioning because the show was filmed in Canada. It's set in Canada. But like because of Canadian tax laws like they make no money from it. And so it was. just like talking about off campus in Congress, or parliament, whatever they call it. That's when I knew I was like, maybe I should step away. That's good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:36 What are the stories like today? They're good. Lots to discuss, like need to discuss information. Need? Yeah, like every story was sort of like a need. Yeah, I need to talk about one of these stories in particular. Everything else is just like, you know, good, you know, what we have to talk about. It's all I'll say.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Actually, really good. Yeah. I think we should get into it. Oh, my God. Okay. I'm like so. You feel ready? And we also have your toes.
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Starting point is 00:19:49 Our first story, so Taylor Swift announces her new song for Toy Story 5. After much speculation, she has shared that she wrote an original song for Toy Story 5 with Jack Antonoff called I knew it. I knew you. So amazing. I think it's a lot of drama for like a one random song on a soundtrack. Having said that, I firmly believe it's going to be like the best song ever. I just like have such a feeling. Also, the way it was described, it's country.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Yeah, like Disney released like a little. I'm like, did you say country? So Taylor going back to her country roots, like, means the world to me. Maybe it's like sense because like Woody and they're like cowboys. Yeah, but maybe it's like Jesse's, you know, ballad moment. Maybe that's not a musical. But in the billboard, in the billboard, it's Jesse dancing. It's true.
Starting point is 00:20:32 She makes them moves up as she goes. So maybe it's like Jesse is having like a crisis of conscience. Or maybe like Jesse's realizing that she loves Woody. I knew it. I knew you. Are they a couple? Yeah, they're not brother and sister. No, no.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Have they like, do they live together? So I've really only seen the first one comprehensively, and she's not even in it. She comes around in like the second one when Woody starts to discover like his backstory as a character, you know, Woody's Roundup and Bullseye, his horse and Jesse. The Roundup? Yeah. Woody. They're siblings?
Starting point is 00:21:11 They're considered siblings according to Wikipedia. Okay. Well. That's not what the song is about. Maybe there's someone else. Maybe Jesse's in love with Buzz. I love with Buzz. Yeah, Buzz is obviously
Starting point is 00:21:20 Her brother's best friend. Buzz is obviously like the jock. He's the Garrett Graham, if you will, of the pleasure. No, not pleasure, Jess. Treasure Jess. Sorry. Sorry. That's disgusting.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Moving on. I have something to say about this. So a lot of people were very quick to point out that Gracie Abrams has a song that's titled pretty much the exact thing. It's like, I know it. I know you, right? So what's Taylor's? Taylor's, I knew it.
Starting point is 00:21:45 I knew it. Taylor's, uh, Draces was, I knew it. I know you. Like she changed, I know you. And I just want to say, I think it's really crazy. Because first of all, this is like not a title of a song. Like sometimes, yes, you can say two people can name a song like, love story.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Yeah. Well, sure. Yeah. Like, yeah. Like something very generic or like, you know, I love you. Do you love me? Like this is literally like not a song title. It's like a collection of weird words.
Starting point is 00:22:10 The fact that two people could possibly like have parallel thinking and come to the conclusion, no. two people who are close and write songs together, no. And I just think it's really crazy because Taylor's like the copy queen, you know, famously Olivia Rodrigo, and she's like very, I think it's one of the things I love and people love about her most. It's like she's kind of militaristic about, you know, credit and original. And, you know, taking care of, you know, the songwriters.
Starting point is 00:22:32 And so like, it's low-key crazy. This is such a random, obscure, quite frankly, bad name for a song. The odds that someone else in her circle, I think it's crazy. Yeah, is it a big Gracie song or like you really I had never heard of it. I had never heard of it. I think it's an insider's note, but Taylor's an insider. She is and Taylor like knows music.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Yeah. Did Jack work on that song with Gracie? Maybe it's a sparky plashtry situation where he gave them the same routine. Jaggy. Jack Antinoff is the sparky plastery of his generation. It is. He's giving everyone the same routine. Synth is the routine.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Did Jack Antenoff? Okay, so let's go to the Gracie Abrams. I've never even heard it. I knew it. I know you. Let's see. Okay, so this song behind the music. So funny, when I Google it,
Starting point is 00:23:24 Gracie, the Taylor Swift thing just comes up. Song and lyrics by Gracie Abrams. Let's see who produced it. You could see that on Spotify. Oh, I'm listening to the song. Oh, I just played it. Okay. Hang on, hang on.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Explore song DNA. Does that tell you? Oh, view song credits. Okay. Oh, Audrey Hobert wrote it. That's, I knew you'd be at the party, drinking the coke and Bacardi. Sue me I want to be, sue me. Do you not know, that's not?
Starting point is 00:23:54 No. So, like, Gracie has like a ghostwriter. Her name is Audrey. I've heard about this. It's like Julian Michaels and Steven Gomez. Yes. So it's like, then Audrey released her own song and her own EP, which is like very insider, but people say it's like one of the best poppy peas of all time because she is like sort of
Starting point is 00:24:09 the brains behind a lot of like that whispery talk singing that Gracie has been come to known for it. Oh, I found the rat. You know? Jack Antenna? No. Aaron Dessner. The rat. Aaron Dessner produced, engineered, and performs on the song. I'm just kidding. I don't think that he had a lot of people to work on a song. He's the rat. So yeah, production and engineering. That's, we found the rat. It's Aaron Dessner. Like, is there any way that
Starting point is 00:24:37 Taylor didn't know that this was a Gracie song? And like she found out yesterday when everyone was like, this is a Gracie song. So the problem when you are like the originality. What's the status of Taylor and Gracie at the most positive? Positive. Okay. I assume she'll be at the wedding. The only problem is like when you are the copy police, you're held to a higher standard.
Starting point is 00:24:56 So maybe we wouldn't be talking about this. We'd be like, oh, it's just crazy. Unfortunately, like she put a target on her back when she decided to become like sort of the hall monitor of the music industry. And so I do give her a slap on the wrist for this because let's say she came to the conclusion completely on her own. And like she should have changed it just out of like how this makes her look. Really? But what if it was totally in earnest? And then it's like it's some sort of admission of guilt.
Starting point is 00:25:20 If like you change it just because someone else has it. Like if it really wasn't an original idea. The thing is with song titles, like I always think like you could literally choose any lyric of chorus to make the song. So it's not like the song has to be called this. Yeah. But she's so scrupled. I really actually don't think that she swiped the name in any way.
Starting point is 00:25:40 No, by the way, I just want to say, I don't think that she swiped the name. Apparently, Jesse says it in Toy Story 2. Doesn't matter. Like, I'm saying, like, it literally doesn't matter. Like, just optics-wise. Yeah. And I know what you mean. Like, once you change it, you're saying, I did something wrong.
Starting point is 00:25:56 And I didn't do something wrong. No, and it's like if you operated completely honestly, why should you have to change any of your song? There are a million song titles out there. If you change every one that sounds like another one, I know this isn't a unique one. But, like, you have to be able to be yourself and creative and true. Of course, but you're also like the copy police. And so that comes with its own...
Starting point is 00:26:13 That comes with its own set. Yeah, but people are accused. I actually don't really, like, I mean, we can get into Olivia Rod Rigo of it all. But sometimes, like, that's the music. That's what Ed Shearhan says. You know, there's only so many chords. Everybody ends up writing pretty much the same version of each other's songs, especially in pop music.
Starting point is 00:26:27 So, like, sometimes you get, like, copied. Tom Petty suing Sam Smith, you know? Sometimes you get, and like, you didn't do it. But, like, that's just like the nature of the biz. So I just think it's weird. I just, because it's, like, also a bad type. Yeah, it's odd. It's obviously also like overshadowing this exciting moment. Yeah, sorry to like make it about that, but otherwise we wouldn't have anything to say because like we don't have the song yet and I'm excited.
Starting point is 00:26:48 It comes out on Friday. Bob Iger shared a picture of him and Taylor like on one of his last days as CEO of Disney. This must have been like one he wanted credit like I got this done because he shared a picture of them in the boardroom. I don't know why you have to like a meeting in the boardroom just like do a song but love that. Right. Like why he didn't you like you want to do a song? Yeah. And like Taylor was just obviously like excited to go because she like wore such a businesswoman's a meeting that could have been an email. A text message. You want to do a song? Sure. Do you think it's because her and Travis have a baby at home that now she's like
Starting point is 00:27:15 wanting to get involved? Like obviously I would love for that to be true, but I also don't want it to be true because that means like she didn't share any of it with us. So no. At the surrogate like delivered. Right. seamlessly. And now they have a baby that loves toy story. Who's five years old? I hope that's not true. Yeah. I like it's little curious that she's getting into the kids game. She's always been like like really family friendly. I know, but like she's not been in a, animated film uh she did cats yikes yikes let's not remind everyone um okay so i'm excited to hear the song i wonder me too like does it come out with the movie before the movie i can't remember the last time i was like anticipated the song from the soundtrack the movie the show the song comes out on friday the movie comes out june 19th and then does taylor put this song like on her album at all or just like it's it's disney's it's like there oh she did do a song for um the marsh girl
Starting point is 00:28:09 What's that book? It was an original. Yeah, Carolina, right? Yeah. It was good. Did she do a song for Hunger Games? You and I'll be safe. And she also did, Zane.
Starting point is 00:28:23 That was a movie one, right? I don't want to live forever. That was for, oh, 50 shades. I don't want to live. Not my favorite. Save and sound from The Hunger Games. It's one of the best songs ever made. People don't even know it.
Starting point is 00:28:33 No, one of the best soundtrack songs ever made, actually. I think it's like the best one. It's broken and it's beautiful by Kelly Clarkson. That's good, but no. Like, it's actually... Give me a genre. Like... Pop.
Starting point is 00:28:45 No, like, of a movie. We just discussed it in... The Italian job? No, we have discussed it in the show today. Today? Mm-hmm. Like, not even a minute ago. Oh, God, you know my memory's so bad.
Starting point is 00:28:59 What am I, Crottats? Close. Oh, close? Like, close. It was right next door to Craddats. We were talking about it just then. Hunger Games. The other one that we were talking about.
Starting point is 00:29:16 50 Shades? Yes. Who wrote a song for 50 Shades? Tell me. Ellie Goulding, love me like you do. Oh, I don't think I knew that that was like for, was that a song created for the soundtrack? I believe so.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Or a song that they put on the score? I don't know. I have a hard time believing it's an original. It's such an amazing song. It was made for the movie. Wow. They were so unworthy. A hundred percent.
Starting point is 00:29:41 That franchise's turn. Like, it's not good. It's so terrible. But isn't that song so good? So great. I should listen to it in the car on the way home. Love me like you do. La la, love me.
Starting point is 00:29:53 I love original. Oh, I saw the funniest tweet about this. Somebody quote tweeted like this news and was like, Dan Warren is crying. Because this is obviously like an attempt at an Oscar. Oh. You become eligible for an Oscar as like a singer-songwriter. Oh, it better be good.
Starting point is 00:30:07 When you write. And she better hope nothing pops off this year, like golden. Or she wouldn't say in a chance. You really can't predict. the song. You always think like, oh, my, you're like of a big person. A lot of times, like, they don't win it, and it's always random. But this is an attempt at that. Oh, she also wrote for cats, a really good song. So I'd sense with your beautiful ghost. Oh, when she wrote for Miss Americana, young. Oh, uh, only the young. That's a good song. Yeah, she actually has that
Starting point is 00:30:35 quite a lot. Quite a lot. Yeah. This one better be good. Yeah. She's a pretty good track. Has she been nominated for an Oscar, like for a song? I believe she was nominated for Beautiful Ghost and she went to the Golden Globes and everything. Remember she went with Joe and it was like a big deal. She wore that green dress. No, I wasn't paying attention. That's good. You're probably busy. Yeah, for sure. Are you ready for our next story? It's a story that you had wanted to discuss and let's let's discuss. Yeah, I need to talk about this. So Phoebe Gates is new, not new, but you know, relatively new AI shopping app. Fia has just closed a major round of funding. and it is completely star-studded.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Sophia is an AI shopping app launched in April 2025. If you watch Love Thine either, you know about it already. Or if you're just on Instagram, it's launched by Phoebe Gates, Bill Gates's daughter, and her college roommate, Sophia Keani. They have like this AI shopping extension where basically you like putting your browser and if you're buying something, it like runs looking for it on every other website. It'll give you the lowest price. It also scans like eBay for a used version.
Starting point is 00:31:37 So if you're shopping, it's like a good extension for getting a lower price for what you want. they also have a podcast. Okay, so I saw this, and it was like Everett, because a lot of the people that I follow invested. It's a lot of like female celebrities, influencers, famous investors. If I may share the investor list in this round, because there were previously some well-known investors
Starting point is 00:31:56 like Haley, Beaver, Chris Jenner, Cheryl Sandberg, and Sarah Blakely were in the first round, but now they just close their second round. The lineup includes Chloe Kardashian, Alex Earle, Mindy Kaling, Carly Klaus, Eileen Goo, Sydney Sweeney, Paris Hilton, Priy Choper, Jessica. Alba Shabozy. Shaboozy, the first man. Ashley Graham, Halsey, Wendy Murdoch, Brooks Nader, and her,
Starting point is 00:32:17 all of her sisters, Cushel Lim, Sophia Amoroso, Rachel Zoe, Winnie Harlow, Lori Harvey, Ice Spice, Kate Bailey, Olivia Coppo, Amy Griffin, Lily Singh, the chain smokers, Layla Harmozy, Gunna, and Jay Shetty. And I just want to say, I hate everything about this. First of all, I have heard of Fia. They were on the Hulu show. Sophia Gates is built. Bill Gates, Sophie is the roommate. Oh, okay. They are like, Nepo to the next level. They have a podcast on the Unwell Network.
Starting point is 00:32:49 They've had Chris Jenner on their podcast. These are like two people who literally have every advantage in the world and like, nobody cares about their company. Nobody cared before. Even before they said, Haley B. Burroughs an investor. No one's using this company. And that's not even a bad idea. It's a good idea.
Starting point is 00:33:01 But like, okay, what? So you have more investors, more money now to continue to do what? Like this, if that was me and like Bill Gates was my dad and I had this show and I could have Chris Jenner on, like, and Chris Jenner invested. Like, I'm sorry, like, it's a flop. It's a flop. Yeah, they claim to have, like, over a million users. They're also, like, building out the tech.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Are the users in the room with us? They're building out the tech so that, like, then the bot, like, knows what you like, and will serve you other things. They make money by taking affiliate commissions when someone checks out through the app. They plan to make, like, a master shopping cart so that you can check out for multiple. Check out for multiple websites in one place. Apparently, like, Google is also doing this. I think there are a lot of tech platforms that can do this.
Starting point is 00:33:41 There's a lot of AI technology. You know, you could also put it into chat, GBT, and say, find me the lowest price of this. A thousand percent. No, and it's not that the idea is bad at all, but it's like there's something about this that isn't working. And they're over committed now. They've over $33 million in funding.
Starting point is 00:33:54 They had huge investors before. Her dad is Bill Gates for crying out loud. And I see their clips on my TikTok from their podcast, Jackie, not one view. And it's the biggest stars in the world. Wait, so what is not working here? Yeah. I don't think more money is a problem.
Starting point is 00:34:06 I don't think more celebrities is the problem. No, I think that from what I've read in this puff piece, like they have, you know, the structure and they have the product and the tech and everything's good. And so now they want to connect with the culture. They're bringing in the culture vis-a-vis, like, all of these celebrities. But I just don't think anything with this many celebrities is going to be successful. Because, like, it shouldn't need that many people. We don't need all of these people to tell us to use this app.
Starting point is 00:34:32 And also, the person who's using this app wants the lowest price, Guadanteed. and I don't look to my celebrity to understand my budget, cardboard like my cardboard needs. A thousand percent. I don't think that this like connects the way that it needs to. Like they actually should have had like more influencers who talk about these sorts of budgetary needs. I'm looking at one right here. No, but the thing is all these people invested. Like I just want to say, I think this is a bad investment.
Starting point is 00:34:58 But like a lot of these people invest in so many things. And like I think they say like literally 1% of your investments cover like all your failed investments. So I don't think anything, any people think they're going to like. getting their money out of this, but I just want to say, like, I think it's a flop. And, like, I've been seeing them now, like, chugging along for, like, years. This isn't a new app. I think maybe for some people this the first time they're hearing about it. But, like, I've been, because they went on Love Thineator. They went to her office. And she was like, this girl boss business that Mary Beth Holland was, like, supposed to, like, want to be. And it was just like, it was corny as hell.
Starting point is 00:35:24 And it's very, like, the future is female. Sophia Amoroso. The talking points. Yeah, it's corny as hell. And, like, it's not working. So, and it's, like, anything can like be successful if you're just going to like have endless money access power celebrities network yeah you know so i just don't think anything that's meant to be successful needs this level of celebrity involvement you know and also at a certain point like people don't listen to celebrities you find on certain subjects for real yeah like having a celebrity spokesperson like i think sometimes it's it's good for like you know awareness but people don't really listen to celebrities I do think the angle of like making a moment out of your investors is like an interesting.
Starting point is 00:36:07 But now anytime I see Haley Bieber, Chloe, talking about this app, I'm like, first of all, you don't use it. And second of all, I know you're only telling me about it. You don't use it. Because you're an investor. So it like it eliminates a little bit of like the, I think. Authenticity. Yeah. And like the conversion.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Yeah. Like why do I listen to you? You don't use this app and you're being paid or, you know. I think the bigger thing is like it's not really. The app is like should be marketed by. regular people who would use it, not necessarily people who wouldn't. Yeah. So everyone on my feet was posting about this yesterday.
Starting point is 00:36:40 And I was just like, I seriously was rolling my eyes. Yeah. But maybe I'll be wrong and it's a huge head. I just like, I would have thought this app would be over by now. Not because now it's like two years of me seeing it. There's like more life on the peripher. Now it's like even bigger and better. And I'm like, but it's not working.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Yeah. But I guess they can like other products that might. have not converted to being in the green at this point, like would have to shut down because everybody has to like go home and like pay their bills. Well, I saw that the girls themselves must be dazzling, you know, because I saw Chloe talking about how Chris went on the podcast. She was like so impressed with the girls that she invested
Starting point is 00:37:18 and then like told her daughters about it. And that's how Chloe got involved. So they must be like smart, charismatic. Like it's impressive to pull like these kind of numbers. But you're also Bill Gates's daughter. So yeah, yeah. Even though, you know, he famously, like, gives his kids $3 a month, like, whatever. I think it's, like, I don't know if it's $3 a month.
Starting point is 00:37:37 I think it's, like, 1% of his wealth, you know? I'll take it. Which is, like, a hundred million dollars. Yeah, I'll take it. Yeah. Okay, ready for our next story? Anna Kendrick is set to direct Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo after the second filmmaker departs Netflix movie adaptation.
Starting point is 00:37:52 So one of our favorite books of all time, if you are getting into reading or you're a reader and you haven't read Seven Husbands, you need to read Seven Husbands, and for years it has been said that it's being made into a movie, and we have haven't heard much, but apparently two filmmakers have left. And now Anna Kendrick is set to film make thoughts, Claudia? Hate. I fucking hate this. First of all, she's not a director.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Okay. So like a first time female director, I'm good. She's not filming. She's not filming. I don't know why I said female. Like, just a first time director period. Oh, sorry. You're a first time male director.
Starting point is 00:38:26 First time director, like, no. First of all. It's giving Jess and Maldoni. A thousand percent. A love book first time actor director. Is he casting herself too? Oh Lord. That's what Justin Bell. Actually she could be Celia. Please no. Like that's so when we all talk for literally years about this book and who we would cast.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Isa Gonzales like, Jessica Chastate. Please, we never once brought up Anna Kendrick for a reason. Like, no, I hate this. Like I just want to say, and where is it? Netflix, you say? Netflix. What did I say last week? When it comes to adapting books, leave it to Hulu. Netflix has an atrocious track record of adapting popular books into movies and TV shows. I didn't realize consciously until this moment that they were in charge of seven husbands. It's going to be bad. Let's just all prepare ourselves. And now Anna Kendrick?
Starting point is 00:39:11 So we have Netflix, bad. Anna Kendrick, bad. I hate this. Any other casting news or nothing or just... No. So they mentioned in this article how fans won Jessica Chastain to play Evelyn Hugo, but the actress shared years ago that there's zero possibility of it happening. I wonder why... They wonder to play Celia.
Starting point is 00:39:27 It said Evelyn Hugo here. Well, the article's wrong because Celia's redhead. Yeah. And Evelyn's Latin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anna DeArma should play her. A hundred percent. I feel like she was cast.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Well, the book has now been talked about. A lot of the characters have aged out. Like, we've been casting this for so many years. Watch, it's going to be fucking and half the way. Screenwriter, whose credits include tiny beautiful things and Little Fires Everywhere wrote the first draft of the script. It also sounds like the production itself is like in a bad place. Now it's a second director.
Starting point is 00:39:54 And then they had another one who's editing the script. Why do we know this? We all collectively... Are we about to see the script? New and all give our thoughts? This is bad. I hope that this gets stuck forever. Yeah, I'd rather not have an adaptation than a really bad one.
Starting point is 00:40:10 I hate to be so negative. I'm sorry, but I just, I don't want to... So, like, it's an important book to a lot of people. For a lot of us, it was a gateway to reading. And I'm scared. Yeah. I'm really scared. Yeah, let's keep hoping that they can't get it off the ground.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Like, seriously, if you were to tell me that they're, like, tapping a random actress to direct. I would have thought like, Yvlon Goria directs. Margo Rabe. Yeah. Sydney Sweeney direct. She's a new production company.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Never in my life would I have said Anna Kendrick. Like this is such a bad call. Cindy Sweeney could be Celia if she dyes her hair. That would be good. Yeah, anyone can be Celia because like yes, it would be nice to have, you know, you, Madeline Petch, a redhead. But yeah, anyone can be redhead. I think the casting that's a little bit more particular is Celia.
Starting point is 00:40:57 I mean, excuse me, is Evelyn, because it's all about this, like, Latin actress who's, like, white passing. So she doesn't have an accent or anything, but she speaks fluent Spanish. So it's to be a little bit more, yeah, but anyone can be Evelyn. Yeah, Celia. Sorry, yeah. So, we'll wait and see. Hate. Are you ready for our next story?
Starting point is 00:41:17 Yes. I hope, I just want to, like, you know, hold your hand while I tell you this. What did Sam Hunt do? Pepe Garcia was spotted. Oh, please. I'm so over him. We spotted on a date with Miranda. from Slamu. So Pepe Garcia from last season of Love
Starting point is 00:41:29 of Love Island, you know, Pepe of Iris and Pepe. Oh, I just want to say, Pepe, I know people are going to, and you're not going to mean nothing to you. Pepe on a very low-key way, people are going to think I'm crazy, but he does give a little bit Garrett Graham, just saying, go. Everyone's Gar-Graham today. If only everyone was Gar-Graham today. Was spotted on a date with Miranda from Secret Lives
Starting point is 00:41:48 and Mormon wives. They were on a date in Miami, and there are some photos from their dinnered. So, like, while I do love this, love to see Pepe back in the fold, just, literally just as I unfollowed him maybe two days ago. He knew he had to get you back. You know these Love Island people.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Like they really have such a, and I really felt like I was following him for a long time. Because the thing about you, it's like you're a sweeper in all manners of life. Like including your Instagram following. Like for me, like once I follow someone, like I am committed to you.
Starting point is 00:42:15 You followed for life? Pretty much like through the highs and the lows. Like it might be like eight years before I unfollow someone that I followed on a random season. Really? Yeah, I actually just did that with one person. And I felt, I felt really bad. No, I'm not saying.
Starting point is 00:42:27 I'll tell you after. You won't even know who I'm talking about. Oh, I know. Yeah. Do I re-follow? Yeah. No, I'm kidding. That's really crazy of you.
Starting point is 00:42:40 I'm like, yeah, that's just how I approach the follow. Like, it's not something. You, I feel like, do a monthly sweep of your following. Not monthly, but like quarterly. If someone's on my free you page and I'm like, oh, you shouldn't be there, I just immediately take action. Yeah. It's the sweeper, like, nature in you.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Yeah, I just unfollowed him last week. So he knew he had to get your attention. It's a desperate ploy for attention. And he's spotted on a date with Miranda. Now, I like Pepe, I think, because I think he cheated on Iris, and I don't like that. So I like Pepe, but in the context of like Pepe as a boyfriend, he's certainly not who I would choose for any person. Let alone, like, a mother. I don't think he cheated on Iris.
Starting point is 00:43:16 I think they had like a bad relationship and he was like really mean after they broke up. Oh, but why did they break up? I don't know. Okay. I just feel like, you know, she's a serious girl. She has kids. I don't know if he's like... Iris?
Starting point is 00:43:29 Oh, sorry. Miranda. Oh, this is terrible for Miranda. I don't know if he's like the stepfather they need. No, he's not going to be the guy who's stepped up. Like, I think that it's clear based on her ex. Like, she has terrible taste in men. Like, she obviously goes for the wrong guys.
Starting point is 00:43:43 It could be worse than Pepe, though. Like, yeah, I think he's that serious. Again, yeah, when you're, when you're a person dating and you also have kids, like you can't be dumb like everyone else. Like, you can't just like fling yourself around. Like, you have to be a little bit more intentional, even when you're like single and carefree. And she is intentional.
Starting point is 00:43:59 So I'm going to trust her. on this. And maybe it's like he wants to be on the show a little bit. Pepe and dad talk. Maybe he wants to be on Slamo a little bit. And like that works for me. Me too. He needs it. I like this storyline. Even if it goes nowhere, like I'm interested. And you know that like the former castmates from Love Island like last year. Their clock has run out. Like the new season starts today. So if you're not, Nicolandria. Do you see that video of Nicolandria at 11 in Miami? Like I did throwing the dollar bills. Nicolandria is just like, I think it's the loneliest place on her. Not only that, I feel like Nick of Nicola Andrea is like really struggling.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Like I think she is getting all the love and attention. So the relationship really suits her. I don't think so. It props her up. Like she's really benefiting from it way more than he is. Oh, I completely disagree. He does like appearances and stuff. I think that like maybe at one point that was enough.
Starting point is 00:44:50 But like she's at such a high level and he's literally just there. I feel like she doesn't know fame outside of Nicolandria. And it's just comfortable for her. And I think they are good friends. And like it's just what you know and that's comfortable. But I think if she breaks up with him, like she, her star would soar. Yes, of course. And she doesn't realize that.
Starting point is 00:45:09 No, maybe she doesn't. But she's still having major success within Nicolandria. Yeah. Nickelandria is now stifling. But if Nicolandra ends. Nick ends. He doesn't get that. It only goes down from here.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Of course, he thinks he's going to be like the next Olandria and he's not. Yeah. But no, all the other castmates besides for really them, I don't think anybody else is like really doing anything. Their time has run out. So yeah, running to a pop. popular franchise, like Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, is pretty good strategy on Pepe's part. Yeah, but there's always potsters and winter games.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Traders. Not traitors. Well, not for any of them, but Maura and Rob. Like, you can go from Love Island. Rob did. Rob did. But that was like a bigger season. I don't think any of them are big enough for traders. But there's a lot of like, like, you know.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Olandri could go on traders. Yes, she could. She should. Yeah. Maybe all that time away from her annoying boyfriend. Maybe she'll fall in love on traitors. Has anyone ever fallen in love on traders? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:46:03 I'm ready for it. You know, Jojo Cua still with the guy that she fell in love with on Celebrity Big Brother. I just saw her post like a carousel of their one year anniversary. That was crazy. That was with like her girlfriend watching in real time. She came in gay and left with a boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:46:14 I know, but her girlfriend, in a relationship too, her girlfriend was watching her fall in love with a man on TV. And everybody was like, it's an act. They're being funny, they're friends. No, no, they're in love. Yeah. I love that for her.
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Starting point is 00:49:18 or than the mini ones that have like the variety pack and that's just good to have because everybody's like, oh, I have blue, I read. Have ever seen Jake Shane when he does the reveal? No. So that's literally how it feels like when you open the pop, like which labor you're going to get. It's true. Also, like whenever we go on vacation, they're like a staple on our grocery list.
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Starting point is 00:52:44 I just saw an article on TMZ. Like, I guess one of the new Love Islanders. What'd they do now? No, he's a former cop. Oh, and his boss is upset. And the mayor of his city is like the fuck because he left the force. Mayor's an arc. The guy did nothing wrong.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Like you're allowed to quit your job to pursue a reality TV show. We can talk about you behind your back. But like for the mayor to release a statement, like the guy quite literally did nothing wrong. No, but he said like police departments across the country are already struggling to recruit and retain officers. And like that he left in under a year, you know, all those resources poured into his recruiting and training. Sure. Sure. But like to put the, you know, the national crisis on this one love island contestant.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Oh, yeah. Like it's a lot. It's a lot. No, it's a lot. Sorry that that happened. Of course, like, going on a vacation where you could, like, potentially come away with a million followers and millions of dollars, like, is... Maybe he could give that money back to the police force.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Like... Maybe he could. But you know what? And so, of course, it's like, by force, I'm going to be famous. By force. But, like, let's talk to him in two years from now. And I think he'll be missing his force friends. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:46 And the stability of the force. Not after this. You do training. Not after this. Yeah. You definitely put a target on your right. And I do think, like, sometimes you could, like, leave your position or take a leave to go on Love Island, like, if you've been in the course of while, but he's, like, there under a year. You know, that was like, Kevin from The Bachelor was a firefighter was a firefighter.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Yeah. And then he went on the Bachelor and he's still a firefighter today. Like, it can be handled well. Yeah. But this guy also has no idea that, like, the former mayor, who he probably, like, never met or spoke to was, like, rattling off about him publicly because he's in the island with no phone. You know what's also crazy is, like, you look at, like, the new cast of Islanders that dropped and it's like, okay, whatever. It means nothing. But if you think about past seasons,
Starting point is 00:54:24 like those are the people who are going to be there the entire time. The original islanders. Being an original islander is such an unfair advantage. To the point where like they have such a toxic alliances that they keep voting. Yeah. And it's like, I mean, it's hard to get to know people based on like a video,
Starting point is 00:54:39 but I'm not like taken away by these. Like it's just crazy that these people are going to hold the show down. That's like a flaw with the show that like people come earnestly. I mean, Jalen. people come with like good intentions and they get kicked off just because they have these like moronic alliances to like keep their friends there
Starting point is 00:54:57 their friends who have no prospects who are literally hated by everyone Hoda like nobody wants to couple up with them people literally they're repellent but they get to stay on it's a flaw in the show and now that I'm like remembering I get like pissed on it and then when we get the chance to vote someone out
Starting point is 00:55:11 America we're behind we're using old information and then we see an episode like Hannah and Pepe and Charlie and we vote out Charlie because we think Hannah likes Pepe but having like Charlie. Also, I saw like the intro video of this girl. She's blonde.
Starting point is 00:55:26 She's like a cutie from Georgia. Is that her name? And I just want to say like I seriously blame everybody who voted for Amaya. Like that's what the producers think we want. They're giving us more Amaya. More like sort of like I hate that shit. Yeah. And I just want to say I never fell for Amaya.
Starting point is 00:55:42 No, not for one second. You can roll the tapes. You roll the tapes. Like I never voted for her. And now people are like, first of all, it's insane that she won. It's insane that Brian won. Yeah, right. I never fell for it.
Starting point is 00:55:53 And like, I just think that I will be rewarded in the afterlife for like never having fallen for DMI at the pie of it all. Yeah. I agree. Who would you have had win the season? No. Like, the thing is no one. Iris and Pepe. Well, of course.
Starting point is 00:56:08 But like they broke up. Ace and Shelley broke up. But at least they were real couples. I would have had Ace and Shelley win the season. They deserved to win the season. They were there since day one and they were actually in a relationship. No, they were in a relationship and they like effectively bullied everyone out. Like, sorry, that's winner.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Like you won. Yeah. No, and everyone like, like, you know, yelled at him for being, like, a master manipulator. Like, I don't know. Maybe I would have had Hoda and Chris win. But, like, yeah, no, he manipulated. Like, great. Isn't that what you wanted?
Starting point is 00:56:30 Isn't that what you guys do here? Right. Or for the final story. Giants signed Braxton Barrios. Oh, yeah. The Giants signed Braxton Barrios to their team. They held a high profile wide receiver workout on Monday morning. Oh, wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:56:45 They kept saying WR. I'm like, I could not. Running. Yes. I was like, Running. I could not think wide receiver. I was like West Runner. I couldn't. Okay. West Wilson, Madam Marvel. West Wilson, Wicked Wich. They held a high profile wide receiver workout on Monday morning featuring Odell Beckham Jr., Juju Smith, Schuster, Braxton Barrios, and Anthony Miller.
Starting point is 00:57:12 So are they saying that like Braxton beat out all those people? And the first winner of the competition was Braxton. But those people are on the team? No, I think maybe they were like, it was like a tryout. Oh, interesting. Go Braxton. I think this is like kind of huge. I think this is huge. For their relationship.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Agreed, but it's like I'm starting to get the feeling now that like Braxton doesn't want to be with Alex. Like no fucking way. But like Braxton is the one who moved on. Like Alex is the one who's like upset. When you get like left in the dust because I do believe that she broke up with him, like you kind of have no choice. That's what we were saying last week.
Starting point is 00:57:42 It's almost better to have been broken up with because there was nothing you could have done. Like you have no choice but to move on. I'm telling you I think Braxton ended it. And maybe it's because he wants, like, he doesn't want a girlfriend who's traveling all the time. Maybe he wants to, like, get married and have kids soon. I'm starting to get the feeling that Braxton ended it. Because if it was, if Alex had ended it, and it was because, like, he's a big loser. This would be good.
Starting point is 00:58:04 Place for the Texans. This is good for that narrative because now he's in New York. Like, New York is a cool place to live. Yeah. For sure. I think her, like, having to fly once a week to Texas, like, was really getting in the way for business. To Houston. I think if she had to be in New York once a week, she would probably, I mean, her sister
Starting point is 00:58:18 loves in New York. Her family's from New Jersey. Everything New York. Fashion Week. The Giants like, don't they play in New Jersey? She could stay at her parents' house. Yeah, no, but like if she had to live in New York for the season, that would not affect her business at all.
Starting point is 00:58:27 It would probably be good for business. And she wouldn't just always, like, be running to leave. Whereas, like, when she's in Houston, she's there for Baxter and Baxterston only. Yeah. I do think that she's, like, slowly becoming a permanent resident of Los Angeles, which I'm watching and I, like, hate for her. Because I can only imagine what it's like to pretty much overnight, become, not overnight, but, like, very quickly become so famous.
Starting point is 00:58:46 And she probably gets, like, let's just say. brand deals, like maybe $15 to $20 million in brand deals a year. And like she's already a Florida resident. Like she doesn't pay income tax. And I see her moving, I know she bought a place in L.A. And now she's spending a lot of time there. It almost feels like she's spending more than half the year. I don't even think she has a place. She sees a Braxton's member. And then I don't know where she stays in Florida. She's like never in Florida. I feel like she's giving up her tax residency in Florida. I just want to say, I think that's a huge mistake. I feel like she won't give up her residency here. And like she'll spend as many days as she can in L.A. But
Starting point is 00:59:20 I feel like her dad would never let her. No, that's insane to do. It's insane. Yeah. Don't do it. Don't do it. So I actually... So the thing about Alex
Starting point is 00:59:28 it's always been so great is like she's not one of those L.A. influencers and she's randomly from Miami. Like there's not a lot. She's the biggest influencer, of course, like in the world, but also in Miami. And it's been like this fun, weird thing about her that she's not from, like, New York or L.A. So I kind of hate that for her. No, and like when you become an influencer in L.A., there's definitely like a lot of
Starting point is 00:59:43 opportunities, a lot of like opportunities for collaboration. And I think when you're at a certain point in your influencing career, it's great to move to LA because rising tides raise all shides. But at other point, like, you do start to get, like, lost in the sauce and you're one of many. One of many. Exactly. So, but I actually saw, I don't know where I saw this, that, like, right now New York City is the number one city for influencers.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Like, what, TikTok? For influencers. Just, like, the amount of influencers who live in New York is, like, more than anywhere else right now. That's cool. I like that. Yeah. They're obviously talking about me.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Of course. Of course they are. Well, congrats to Braxton. Like, he's employed. that's always a good way to get a girlfriend. Like getting a job, this is for men everywhere. And that's a great segue. I think he wants a wife.
Starting point is 01:00:24 I think that's a good segue into your toasters. Like, if you want a wife, if you want a girlfriend, the first thing you should do is get a job because not enough men have jobs. Let's step into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment where people write in, people in need, people in distress, listeners of this show wanting to get advice from their two favorite girls. If you ever want to write in, email us to your toasters at gmail.com or head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:48 Hey, so last summer, my friends and I were bar hopping as young toasters do. And they may or not have had one too many and did up making out with an older gentleman. In my defense, he didn't look that old, but it was captured on video and it's just like a funny inside joke for the past year. Fast forward last week. My mom goes and talks about this new man she's seeing and how she's so happy that they met through one of her co-workers at her new job. Seriously, end the show. My parents have been divorced for the past six years. This is the first time where I've actually seen my mom dating. She's so excited and happy.
Starting point is 01:01:12 And I'm so excited for her to be so happy. Where this all goes wrong is I walked down the stairs last night and guess who that. hell is opening a bottle of wine next to my mother, but the same man that I kissed at a bar last summer. I ran the fuck out of the house. I have not said a single thing to anyone. I don't know what to do. And I'm so scared to see this man again in my house with my mother. I had to run and tell my Toasty Queen's dead ass help. I don't know what to do. I don't believe it. You don't believe it. No, like I believe it, but I'm in shock. The thing is, I only wish you stayed with him a little bit longer to see if he recognized you. Like, is this a secret you two have or only you remember? Like,
Starting point is 01:01:44 if only you remember, it dies with you. He definitely remembers. I don't know. Everyone's drinking. And like, he doesn't drink like a party. Like it's shocking that she only really remembers because she has a video. I don't know, like an older gentleman. Well, maybe he doesn't have the video, so he's not always looking at you. Right. And it's a year ago, an older gentleman, having some drinks, not blackout. Like, I think there's actually a high chance that he could not remember. I think it's time to move away from home, you know? There's a time in every woman's life where leave the nest. Leave the nest. And this might be the thing. Yeah. you don't tell you well no you don't tell your mom no no sorry you don't tell your mom you should call
Starting point is 01:02:15 nois Cyrus and get her advice what she did but I don't think she ever made out with dominic purcell it was that she like loved him and her mom took him from her stop this is also what was the idea of you thank you except the girl was 11 so like she was never making out with Harry styles like it was just a crush um yeah sharing a partner with a parent is obviously a bad situation one I've never been in so I can't help you. And roadway moving is an amazing moving company. It is. And I think it's time to set off from you with horizons and hope that they break up and then
Starting point is 01:02:55 you can come home. In terms of the actual tangible advice, I would probably believe that this guy doesn't remember, although you do have to see him again to see if there's any sort of like twinkle in his eye. And if he gives off the vibe that he has no idea, like unfortunately, this is just your secret and you have to live with it. just hope that they break up. And start badmassing him to your mom.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Yeah. Start like laying the foundation being like, oh, you know, someone I know knows him. He's a bad guy. Yeah, he used to get really aggressive. Like, I don't know just like, make some shit up. Make some motherfucking shit up. That's terrible. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:03:27 That's like actually maybe the worst one. That's very nauseating. It's really like we're stuck. Like mother like daughter. Next up. Hey, Swirleys. I'm going to cut to the chase. I was sent a screen recording of a Tinder profile of my husband of four years,
Starting point is 01:03:39 the father of my five-month-old twins. The person who sent to send him to my son. to me as an old co-worker who recognized my husband immediately. The profile had a different name, but the photos, bio, information, and interests all match my husband and even said father of twins, not looking for a mother. He claims it's a fake profile. His phone was hacked. In his defense, slightly, we checked and he did have fraudulent charges on his card.
Starting point is 01:03:57 90% of our relationship, we've been solid, but post-having the twins were on shaky ground with the drastic change. I just don't know what to think. Do I trust my husband? Should I be worried that he's at least emotionally cheating? Any advice would help? Sincerely a tired postpartum toaster who doesn't want single parent twins. Yeah, like, is there not a way to confirm this?
Starting point is 01:04:15 Like, there is. Like, even if he deleted Tinder off of his phone, like, you redownload the app. You can see, first of all, if he is, you, when you go to an app store. Go to his email. Go to Tinder emails. Maybe he has like a burner email. Go to his app store. If you have an app that you've already downloaded, even if you deleted, it would just say
Starting point is 01:04:31 redownload. Yes, but if you've never downloaded. But he could have had Tinder years ago, like, and it could come up. Open the app. It'll say, like, re-log in. Like, it'll memorize your stuff. I'm sorry, you need a full fucking audit. Yeah, you do.
Starting point is 01:04:43 If he ever used Tinder before, it doesn't have to be today. But it might be his old profile that would come up with his real name. Yeah. If there's a fake-ass profile with like Danny or whoever. Yeah. I feel like there are ways to confirm we don't have to like live in wonder. Exactly. But sometimes I think people like prefer to live in wonder, especially at this stage of like being post-partner.
Starting point is 01:05:05 At this stage, I kind of want to say just like set it down for the moment, you know? Yeah. I also respect like. I think some people would rather be in like an iffy situation than like have to face like, like she said being a single parent. Starting over with twin five month old. Like I'm sorry that not today. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Not today. If anything, he's like your living caretaker, nanny until you guys can work this out. But like your five months was part of. I'm like you're seriously so in it. Like you really should make. I think you said this one's like no major life changes should be made within two years of having a baby. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:37 And so not today. You know. Not today. And so I don't know if he did or he didn't. And you could spend the time trying to figure it up. But even if you found out that he did right now, like seriously, that would be incredibly inconvenient truth. Yes, but you don't need to live in the gray area.
Starting point is 01:05:51 Jackie's right. Like, they're very easy ways to figure out whether this was a real profile or a fake profile. There's a digital trail. And also, like, you do need to know if he was cheating on you because you should not have sex with him. Yeah, of course. No, no. So, like, don't let him gaslight you into being like, it was fraud.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Like, you can figure it out. Like, just because you have like a fake, your credit card got stolen. Everyone's gets stolen. And also, like, what's the fraud? Like, that could have been, is it him saying it's fraud? Right. You like you need to spend like an hour. It'll be really quick like figuring all this out.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Yeah. And once you start the audit, he might just come clean. Perhaps. Like save yourself the time because who knows what else you'll find. Perhaps and hopefully he can like rehabilitate himself. Hopefully. And if and nothing else, just he's your living nanny. We'll see you in a year and a half.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Literally. Hey Jackson Claude. My husband and I got married about nine months ago. We didn't live together before and we were both night shower people. So naturally newlyweds infatuated with one. another, we started showering together every night. But now nine months later, we still shower together every night and I'm going to hate it. First, we have a tiny apartment shower. We're cramped and only one of us is under the water at a time. Second, I'm in the shower to decompress and get
Starting point is 01:06:53 clean, but he loves the quality time, wants to hug and kiss. Something deep within me gets so irritated when I'm trying to wash my hair and he grabs my boobs. I feel like I'm so far deep into showering every day with him and I don't know, I'm sorry, and I know that he loves getting to be together during this time. And he's so genuinely sad if he comes home and I tell him I've already showered. So married swirlies, how do I tell him to phase out of showering together? Yeah, you need to just like start, switch up your schedule. Yeah, you're a morning shower now. Like say you got like a carrot and treatment and now you have to shower in the mornings for your hair. Like I don't think you need to have a sit down and
Starting point is 01:07:30 be like, I don't like showering together because that will hurt his feelings. And of course, at the end of the day, like he's doing this because he loves you and like he wants to feel close to you. But I just want to say I disagree. Like I think you can't have a sit down conversation and tell I'm like if you don't have your shower time, like, and you're just kind of setting the tone for the rest of your relationship. Like,
Starting point is 01:07:46 even when you live in close quarters with someone, the one place that you have to yourself was like when you're taking a dump or you're taking a shower. Like, and he's taken that from you. I just think like communicating. This is like a good opportunity.
Starting point is 01:07:56 Kind of a kind of like a very innocent opportunity for you to like reclaim and like just be like, listen, I love you. And like we can shower together sometimes like daily. Like for a girl. Like we have a lot to do. Like can you fuck off? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:08:08 You could do that. I would do it. This is a situation where I feel. honesty is the best policy and it's a good practice for just like saying hard things communicating you just got married you're going to have lots of conversations like this even harder yeah but you could also just subtly back away from the shower yeah of course you can change your routine um yeah get a perm yeah like shower before him yeah also if you have a perm then you'd be like well you get my hair wet and yeah so there's a million like fake excuses out of it where you
Starting point is 01:08:37 could like blame just being a girl but i think here like let's exercise our communication skills. Okay. It's not a slight against him. Like to want to shower by yourself, which is like a basic human right, I don't think you're asking too much. And I think if we like have to skirt around it,
Starting point is 01:08:51 you're sending a bad precedent. Yeah. Okay. I think either words. He sounds really sweet. I feel like it's really not a huge issue. And some girls have kissed their mom's boyfriends. That's how it's important to have different, like,
Starting point is 01:09:04 levels of deer toasters. Because like it makes your problems feel so small. Yeah. And some girls have. Who's hooked up with her mom. mom's boyfriend. Some girls that have five-month-old twins and are grappling with the fact
Starting point is 01:09:15 that their husband might be on Tinder. Not to make those girls feel bad, but... Yeah, but to the girl with the Tinder husband, she kissed her mom's boyfriend. And to the girl with the mom's boyfriend, she has the husband on Tinder. True. Perspective is everything.
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