The Toast - Willy Nilly: Monday, September 11th, 2023

Episode Date: September 11, 2023

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Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Monday. Hope everybody's having a gorgeous start to their work. Hey, gorgeous. How you darn? I'm darn good. Excited to be back on The Toast. But boy, have I had a weekend.

What happened to you? Have I had a morning. What happened to you? My sweet angel, Harry, has been sick all weekend. Disgusting. And we were coming out the other end. You know, we made do. It's just hard because of Charlie.

Of course. Keeping them apart. Whatever Harry has, I don't want Charlie to get. So this morning I called the doctor to get Harry to see the doctor. And of course, like, what time could she do? Toast time. So it's just been hectic here to say the least just know when I find the person who infected our little Harold with whatever sort of illness just know just know

you know yeah yeah just know yeah so it was a stressful weekend. Like we were literally cordoned off. Zach and Harry in one room watching Mickey Mouse, Mickey, as Harry calls it. And then me and Charlie in the other room. So it was just that was like kind of sad for the weekend. I made a huge pot of soup for the house, which no one ate except for me. I mean, soup? Like I stand with the kids here because I have like a very, you know, limited palate. I'm a picky eater, much like that of a child. Even though Harry eats definitely like more complex things than me. And I stand with the kids.

Like when you're sick and someone's like, soup? Fuck off. Even though- Well, when mom made it with her heart and soul because he got sick on Saturday morning and the kosher restaurants aren't open. So like, you know, I'm not really in my homemaking mode right now I would have just ordered of course but he needed kosher soup and it was Saturday everything was closed so

mama got to chopping no for sure and you're gonna eat my soup and you're gonna like it let me tell you the annoying thing about soup when you're sick like that shit does make you feel better like they call it the Jewish penicillin for a reason. Like there is medicinal qualities. But my God, like even when I'm not sick, but more so when I'm sick, like the thought of drinking that broth, like vomit. I actually disagree with you. That's okay. The few times I've been sick this year, all I've wanted was soup and bread.

Even when I had my surplages. Bread, of course. Even when I had my surplages and of course even when I had my surclages and I was like recovering all I wanted was soup like mom kept bringing me soup and that was literally the only thing that sounded good because it's like you only kind of want to drink stuff but you also need sustenance

aka soup what if I just had a soup let me say I'll end with this okay soup with bread greater than just soup. For sure, but Mama's offering bread. I got fresh challah. Of course, of course, of course.

I just thought it was important to mention. He didn't even want challah, so I really can't take it personally. Wow. Also, on the topic of challah and soup, it is important to note we are entering, like, the Jewish holiday era. Now, this weekend is the start of the Jewish New Year. It is Rosh Hashanah, which is a pretty good holiday. And we'll be together, family, friends, fun, and son. You know, what's better than that? But I'd be remiss. I would be devastated. I might even be heartbroken if I didn't at least mention that. What comes after Rosh Hashanah? If you've been following the show for a while now, you know, even if you've never met a Jew

in your life, you know what comes next because we talk about it every year and actually every day. Yeah. Every day I think about how much time I have left until the dreaded Yom Kippur. It is our day of atonement. It is the saddest day in the Jewish calendar. It is a day of fasting, which means for 25 hours, your girls can't eat. And it's approaching. It's what, the first week of October, I believe.

So just know that that's coming, that if we seem kind of on edge in the coming weeks, that's why. And I'm not looking, I for one, I'm not looking forward to it. I think it's actually sooner than the first week of October. Yeah, it's September 25th, just so that you can prepare yourself. And I know what

you guys are thinking. Oh my God, another Jewish holiday. These girls are going to be off. There's no show. Yes, there's no show September 25th, but just know we're not happy about it. Usually when we have a day off, it's like, ooh, what are we doing? Where are we going? What are we seeing? What do we know? This time of year, a day off is a scary thing because it could be Yom Kippur. This time of year, a day off is a scary thing because it could be Yom Kippur. Like working day greater than fasting day. You said it, sister. You said it.

Also, I'm fairly certain that even though Rosh Hashanah is upcoming, it actually will not affect our listeners whatsoever because it falls on a weekend. It's two days. We usually take the one day because we have to. It's a very high holiday. But it's on the weekend. So really for our Goyish listeners, your life is unchanged. Yeah, that's true. usually take the one day because we have to it's a very high holiday uh but it's on the weekend so really for our gayish listeners your life is unchanged yeah that's true like back in the day when we went to school and we of course went to jewish day school like russia shut up falling on a

weekend like a worst thing couldn't happen to a 12 year old like it was just unfair it was brutal but this year you know i'm a business owner. I'm feeling grateful that it falls on the weekend because it doesn't affect our business. Yeah. The show will go on. Yes. And oh my God, it's just like it's now setting in how close we are to Yom Kippur. Like I really need to start preparing myself. Yeah. Well, I fasted recently, so I'm feeling like I can do it. I feel like I'm going to answer a common question I might get as somebody who's on Ozempic. Literally, cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater. First of all, I haven't spoken to a rabbi.

Oh my god, I'm done listening to you complain about Yom Kippur. What if you have the appetite of a breastfeeding mama? Okay, well, you don't actually, you could probably find a machloket to get you out of it since you're breastfeeding. I know I haven't spoken to a rabbi about, you know, the effects, but let me just say, I'm sure people are wondering, well, girl, you're on Ozempic, you're not hungry. Let me tell you how hunger still strikes when you're on Ozempic. The same, you know, frequency in which it would, if you were not on Ozempic, it just would take less food to keep you full. Now I have to imagine, of course, I'm not stupid. It will be easier. Of course. I was on it last year though. Yeah. And you were fine. I remember.

Was I? You were fine. I imagine that that's how other normal people who have normal like relationships with food, I imagine that's how they experience Yom Kippur because it was still a struggle. But in recent years, like not on Ozempic when i've had to fast it's literally like so impossible that that can't be normal the way no one is listening to you complain about yom kippur anymore namely me you know if we have any rabbinical students or rabbis themselves or wives of rabbis who are listening what is like the law you shouldn't be able to shoot up that week well what day of the week is Yom Kippur Monday okay actually my daily you know my weekly shot I get on Wednesdays and by the time Monday Tuesday rolls around like I it does start to wear off and I am

feeling hungry so to be honest it's not going to help me that much. If Yom Kippur was on like a Friday when it's peak shot. Oh, easy peasy. Wait, Friday is two days before. No, I take my shots on Wednesdays. Oh, okay. And by Friday, it's like at its highest peak. Understood. Okay.

Understood. Fridays, you're not going to catch me like having a cheat day. Fridays are like my day. Got it. Okay. Understood. Fridays, you're not going to catch me like having a cheat day. Fridays are like my day. Got it. Well. I just, I wanted to be open and honest about that. I had to bring it up. Yeah, no, I'm glad that you did because here I was indulging you in your annual Yom Kippur talk.

Yep. And no, nope. Putting the kibosh. Let me tell you, I don't even feel bad. Like I do. I'm doing what I gotta do to survive. Yeah. No, do what you gotta do.

But us listeners of you, just grain of salt. Grain of salt. You know what? I will take that. What's it called? A kazayit of salt. A kazayit. Yes!

Okay, so if anybody wants like a little lesson in Jewish theology, a kezait, it's rough translation. Actually, not rough. It's actual translation. Zayit is olive. And when you put ka in front of it, it's like the word k'mo, shortened. K'mo means like. So kezait, like an olive.

So the rule actually, historically, on Yom Kippur is if you're feeling like faint, you're feeling like you can't go on, like it will affect your health if you don't eat something it is totally legal to have a kazayit something like an olive in terms of size so in recent years when I've needed a kazayit an M&M is a gorgeous kazayit it's actually you could have two maybe three because size wise what kind of olive are we talking about you know and it like, this is where the rabbis would do their thing and discuss until the ends of the earth. It's like, could I have multiple kazaits? Right.

Or like, is each bite, it has to be a small bite. But like, they didn't say just one. What did they mean by that? We got to get the Lashi. There's text upon text about that. Yeah, that's like so Jewish. Like interpreting language and manipulating it until it fits your needs. Yeah that's like so Jewish like interpreting language and manipulating it until it fits your needs. Yeah but speaking of like an olive Lauren Elizabeth had her baby named Olive.

So did Stassi. And Stassi had her baby and so now if Lauren Elizabeth would like a Hebrew name for her baby girl might I suggest Zayt. It's kind of gorgeous. Or kazayit like an olive i definitely think the luthering hausen name has jewish like history somewhere in there i know i believe that it does i think she's told us that yeah so zayit zayit lutheran hausen and i know lauren's listening to this episode like while feeding her child so hey girly hope you're doing well hope you're doing well very excited for her you know what let's not sing a lot lauren hope all the mamas who are listening to this episode rearing children at whatever stage are doing well because it's the world's toughest job. It really is.

Speaking of mamas. So the content hole that I've fallen down still is Molly Mae and Tommy Fury. Yeah. And I finished Love Island season five since we last spoke, you guys. The ending was just jarring jarring whatever whatever they gave us Tommy and Molly and that's what's important 100 so now I'm watching Molly May's vlogs and as a new a recent new mom I was watching her like postpartum vlogs like her birth story and then she vlogged like two months later just about like being a mom and the way I just

felt so seen by this girl. It was so nice. She was so open. I really didn't expect her to really be talking about some of the nitty gritty. Jax, I think that's how some people feel about you. Like you really are a warrior. Well, I feel like watching her made me feel like I'm not that open. And it's really nice when someone is.

But you really are, especially like on Patreon and stuff. Like you go there. Yeah. Once the topic comes up, I guess on this show, like we don't, we don't talk about just postpartum things, but if I like sat down and made a video like Molly did, yeah, I would, I did my birth story. I did her birth story. And I just, I love watching that sort of content.

So it made me want to just share more if anybody wants to hear anything I want to hear how's your mucus plug I think she talked about her music her mucus plug wow wow did it fall out it flew out she said no she probably said it flew out it flew all the way out and the way I'm gonna start speaking with an accent now because that's all I watch I know I also watch at home with an accent now because that's all I watch I also watch at home with the Furies which is the reason why I started all this you know the Fury family got a reality show on Netflix yes but it's Tyson Tommy's big brother yes who's a heavyweight champion I didn't know him and his family life's really interesting but but really

the glimpses of Tommy and Molly are really interesting of course course. And they're a very interesting family to have a reality show, but I don't think the show was very well done. It's extremely repetitive in terms of like what everyone is saying. Well, I think we're going to start seeing a lot of random, unscripted reality shows all over the streaming services because it's kind of the only type of project that's sanctioned in the SAG strike. So the strike is really like,. It's, it's, it's been a long time and I don't really see an end in sight. So I do think that's the type

of content we're going to be seeing. One, I'm here for it. That's the kind of content I can wrap my head around right now. Two, it's been a long time that they've been on strike, but not a long time since Labor Day. I don't think anything, I don't think anything was happening before Labor Day. So it's like, it's almost as if it's like week one of the strike in terms of resolution. I agree. But then I also heard, you know, from somebody who's like smart and a different person who told me that it would end in September said most likely now January. Wow.

Yeah. So expect to see a lot of standup specials and a lot of reality TV. I haven't seen standup. I haven't seen standup now that I think about it. I think if you're a comedian who's been trying to sell your special, like- Like Claudia Asche.

Yeah, I'm having no luck. But if you are, not me, I think this might be your chance. Like if you see people getting like big specials on Netflix or any streaming service that you might not have pegged for like, you know, Netflix's type. I think that's why.

I have no proof of that. It's just a thought I had. Wait, also, also, I didn't choose this as a story, but are you seeing all this Jessica Chastain Venice Film Festival drama? No, not a thing. So Jessica Chastain was at Venice Film Festival promoting like this movie that she did. And it's not like a big budget movie studio

because, you know, Venice Film Festival, it's like very, it's not independent, but it's like always smaller budget. And budget and it's a SAG sanctioned press tour that she's on I think it SAG said it's good it helps filmmakers I'm not entirely sure but it's caused like a lot of controversy and then Amy Schumer posted a picture um it was like a paparazzi photo of her at the U.S. Open looking like a little not disgruntled but like you know she was like a paparazzi photo of her at the U.S. Open looking like a little, not disgruntled, but like, you know, she was making a face like. And she captioned it like when I see celebrities promoting their films at the Venice Film Festival, because there have been like a few and they're all sanctioned. They're not considered crossing the picket line. But I think it's a controversial thing.

Well, it just seems a little pick and choose. It does. And it seems a little unscrupled. Ooh, hot take. Just that like SAG just gets to decide who gets to promote their films. And of course, I'm sure there's people who have interest in the Venice Film Festival.

And if really no celebrities are promoting it, then like the Venice Film Festival is gonna tank. And no, it's not really so much promoting the film festival. It's promoting the people whose films are in the film festival. And they promoting the people whose films are in the film festival. And they're not backed by like major studios. And they are these sort of like more independent filmmakers and people who SAG wants to lift up.

Jessica Chastain like has been in her comments fighting for her fucking life responding. And she's, you know, she's making sense. It's just kind of, you know, like the celebrities are fighting. No, that's really crazy. But it just sort of you know like the celebrities are fighting no that's really crazy but it just sort of by the way I don't know enough about the whole thing to say like who's right and who's wrong but it's just been really interesting no yeah I don't know enough either but it just kind of reminds me of how like you know they promoted Barbie and Oppenheimer like to death and then

they decided and now we're done and now nobody can promote anything ever again strike had not begun yes it had no it hadn't the writer's strike did but then sag in solidarity hadn't started yet right that didn't start until barbie you know spent their last dollar of the hundred million dollar yes i'll say it was convenient timing for the biggest film of the year. Right, right. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, so. It's giving willy nilly. Willy nilly.

Not willy nilly. I'm also jazzed. Not jazzed. That's probably not the right word. But I'm also very into the stories today. And I am falling down a crazy rabbit hole of Ashton Kutcher Mila Kunis like it's wild what's going on and I'll explain it all you I explain the ins and outs because I'm just like I've got the headlines you know that's I haven't got the subtext no I

want to know but I also want you to know what I think as someone who's just like a little zoomed out from the situation. Yeah, yeah. No, I'm definitely not zoomed out. And I have a lot of thoughts. Also, I think we'd be remiss if we didn't acknowledge that today's 9-11. Always a very tough day, especially in New York. And it's just so weird that it's just like a day, you know? Yeah.

Like people like get married because it's just a day. Like people's birthdays are today. And there are also people like are some maybe even some of our peers who weren't even born. That's how long it's been. I know. It's so crazy to think about. I was thinking about that this morning. Shannon posted a really nice set of stories about 9-11.

And she was saying if you're younger than 22, you weren't alive for it, which is wild to me. I mean, it is. But we were also so young. I was in the first grade. Yeah. I was in. I might have been in the second grade, actually. Sorry.

No, I think I was in second grade. No, I was in the first grade. Were you one? Oh, yeah. No, you're two years below me. I was not in the third grade. You were. Actually, I think I was in the second grade and you were in the fourth.

That makes sense. I know it's an even number. Yes. So it just goes to show like I've always known exactly where I was on 9-11, but now like the details start to fade. I know. And we need to like we need to not because we need to always I feel like there's so many people walking around who aren't even alive. It doesn't like impact them in the way that it impacts people who were there. And it's just so everyone should watch United 93.

That's like probably one of my favorite. It's really a tough watch. It's like probably the saddest movie I've ever seen in my life. Yeah. But you get some Peter Herman. Oh, is he in it? Mm-hmm. Everyone who's in that movie,

like I know it wasn't like a big budget. It wasn't a big movie, like a moneymaker for them. I just think it was like a story everyone wanted to tell. So anyone who's in that movie, I have deep respect and admiration for. Yeah, but that's also the sort of movie I can only watch once.

Agreed. Like if it's on TV, skip. It's so painful. Yeah. Like not a good happy ending. Postpartum. You need to know the story, but it's not something that I'm just gonna like

watch and rewatch. Right. And it's like one of the stories of 9-11. That's not like the biggest story, of course. Like we always are hearing about the towers and stories from amazing, like heroic people. And United 93 is just kind of like a smaller story. And the fact that it's a movie,

I think that's how a lot of people learned about that flight that almost hit the Pentagon, right? Yeah, yeah. And it's just, it's a tough day. So I wanted to acknowledge it thank you I'm glad that you did I was thinking the same thing just like eerie vibe in New York you know yeah it's it's a somber day it is and there's no getting around it you know yeah no it comes every year it just is and you just have to sit with it yeah I've actually never been to the 9-11 memorial.

Have you? No, I've never been through the experience. Me neither. I think I should go. Yeah, I've heard it's amazing. Yeah. Well, sorry to, you know, damper, but wanted to acknowledge. Yes, thank you very much.

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Yeah, and I'm going to use Toast 10. As you should. Yeah. Our first story, Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis address the pain caused by their letter about Danny Masterson. They said, we support victims. So Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis say

they're sorry for any pain or trauma caused by the character letters they wrote for their That 70s Show co-star Danny Masterson, who was sentenced on Thursday to 30 years to life in prison for raping two women. In a video posted Saturday on Kutcher's Instagram account, they addressed how the letters, which were obtained Friday by The Hollywood Reporter, came about they said that danny's family approached them after the actor's conviction in may and asked them to write character letters representing the person that we knew for 25 years ashton said mila said the letters were not written to question the legitimacy of the judicial system or the validity of the jury's ruling we support victims we have done this historically through work and will continue to do so in the future they were intended for the judge to read and not to undermine the testimony of the victims

or to re-traumatize them in any way. We would never want to do that and we're sorry if that has taken place. Okay. So this was a crazy saga. Now, from the beginning, Danny Masterson from That 70 Shows was convicted of drugging and raping two women. He was sentenced to 30 years in prison.

And like Ashton and Mila said, was those letters were written not to sway the jury or the conviction, but just to take into consideration when sentencing him. I think they thought that they were going to be private because they were just read for the judge and not for anyone else. They were not private.

In your research, have you seen whether or not like they were how they were leaked? They weren't leaked. It's public information. Is it? Yes. And I wrote it down. It's worth mentioning that they were not the only celebrities that wrote letters for Danny Masterson. They're obviously the most famous.

But Deborah Jo Rupp, who plays the mom in that 70s show, that little old lady, she wrote one. Giovanni Robisi, who you would know from Ted as Fresh Cakes. Yes. And the lesser known Baldwin brother, William Baldwin. Got it. Well, Fresh Cakes guy writing a character letter, like just given his character in Ted, I just don't know if that's the vibe. Now everybody is, you know, this is kind of

like a, an ethical dilemma. People are debating like, was it the right thing? Was it the wrong thing? They're his friend, yada, yada. Now, personally, my take is like vomit. I would literally never like, this is, this is like actually embarrassing for Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher. I don't care how close you are with someone like the crimes he's not even accused, convicted of are so abhorrent. Plus, the other layer here that I think is causing people to spiral and conspiracy theorize is Danny Masterson is a Scientologist and Scientology this these crimes

happened a long time ago Scientology was very involved in covering up these crimes for Danny Masterson so now everyone's like this is so off-brand for Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher they have a non-profit called Thorn they're very very active in human trafficking and sexual abuse crimes. Like they are so active in the sense of, sorry, in the sense of trying to help eliminate and help victims of sexual sex crimes. It's so off brand for them. It's so bizarre. Mila Kunis' last film is The Luckiest Girl Alive, which is about a sex crime. It just makes no sense.

Now, of course, the element of Scientology has led people to theorize. And an Instagram story from one of Danny Masterson's ex-girlfriends has really caused the rabbit hole of people, you know, making up theories to be blown open okay an ex-girlfriend or is it one of the accusers both she's okay okay so they had released that video which we should talk about because it was just bizarre like it yeah okay so Danny Masterson's accuser and I'm citing uh one of the places that I've been watching a lot of videos is this girl on TikTok who I love the talk of shame

she does like a good job recapping and you know who's who in all of this um her name is Chrissy Bixler she's an ex-girlfriend and an accuser of Danny Masterson and she had posted this story once Mila and Ashton had posted their video, which was incredibly bizarre. Let me find it. Sorry. Just give me two seconds. I was just watching this video before the toast. Just it's important. Hold on. Oh, here. Okay. So she wrote on her Instagram story, Dear Ashton, I know the secrets your, quote, role model keeps for you,

ones that would end you. Did you forget I was there? You were on speakerphone that night you called Danny on February 21st, 2011. I heard everything. I heard the plan. In my opinion, you're just as sick as your mentor so now what happened February 21st 2001 I'll tell you what happened a girl that Ashton Kutcher was dating was found dead stabbed 47 times in her home now Ashton Kutcher actually was a witness on the trial

and he had said that he came to pick her up for a date, looked through the window, saw red wine all over the floor. He said what he thought was red wine and left. That's his involvement. But Chrissy Bixler is saying, I heard you call. I heard the plan. He had called Danny. Now a friend of Chrissy Bixler, who's now a podcaster and is like, you know, releasing content,

had said Ashton actually called Danny and said he went to the door opened the door saw her her dead went back in his car and called his team his agents his lawyers Danny Masterson and you know concocted some sort of alleged plan for you know he didn't want to be you know involved you call you call someone like hey there's a dead body. You're obviously going to be the first suspect. So he had called a bunch of people and came up with this sort of plan. I believe that that's what the internet is now believing Chrissy Bixler to have meant because a friend of hers went on a podcast and said that that was what the conversation with Danny Masterson was.

And that's what happened the night of February 21st, 2011. Then Chrissy Bixler also addressed Mila and said, Dear Mila, I pray you begin to process what you experienced as a child on that set. Your old interviews are very telling. I encourage everyone to watch them and decide for yourself what you hear and what you see. Do so before they get scrubbed from the internet. I also know what happened in Toronto and after. Question, if that's what you view as a normal relationship with a big brother figure then I feel very sad for you and I hope you consider getting into therapy you almost forget I was there the whole time those first five years after that 70s show I remember everything I'm not entirely sure what the Mila part is anything that's something the internet is still sort of digesting but it's a lot yeah that's a lot and it definitely

takes you down a rabbit hole of other things in terms of right letter and the apology though yeah the apology video the apology video was bad bad and I've never been in the position of you know what their what the position that they were in when they wrote the letter they know this guy or think they know this person for 25 years they're advocating for a more lenient sentence than probably what he got. Cause he got a very hefty sentence. He did. They, they really made an example out of him, which is fabulous. Right. So they did what, what they thought they should do. Right. Given the situation and given their, you know, obvious sensitivity and support for victims. Yeah. You know, like, I don't think

you can deny that. So, and they chose to write that letter and that's what they thought what the right thing to do was. And obviously they got a lot of heat for it. I think that this apology fixes nothing and actually only makes it worse and makes them look incredibly unscrupled at least.

And they should have, if it were were me I never would have written the letter like I just think that was the wrong choice for them to make okay but they made that choice a lot of people are now like speculating that because Scientology is involved and because there's like this litany of like things I just read it's entirely possible that like they were blackmailed or like you know hostage because everyone's like it looks like a hostage video the apology looks like hostage but they were like coerced into writing those letters that's what a lot of people think just because Scientology now makes everyone suspicious of everything like the fact that Ashton and Mueller are not Scientologists no but Scientology being a factor in this case

makes everyone just now look at everything suspiciously. Yeah. Okay. But I feel like. To what you were saying. Okay. So they decided to write the letters. That's what they thought was the right thing to do. I think they cited, you know, Danny's daughter as one of the main reasons for that. They, if they were going to do that, then they never should have explained themselves because this video helped nobody, did nothing.

At least if they never explained themselves, there's like an air of mystery to it where we're like, well, we could never understand. understand but now I'm like that was the wrong call yeah I don't think anybody who was mad at them for writing the letter has forgiven them in their apology so and it just makes them look like weak willy-nilly honestly willy-nilly and everyone family asked for a letter they write a letter internet asked for apology they write an apology what do you stand for is this man really your friend and you really think that he's a good man of good character then stand for that no you're so right it's very it's giving spineless and um of course now everyone is dissecting every millisecond of the video they both keep looking to

the right it appears that they have some sort of computer there because you can also hear a click, which is crazy. Yeah, it's clear that they're reading something, which doesn't bother me because if you're saying something important, like I do want you to get it right. You know, this isn't a memorization test. Like if you want, and you know, you're always asking for people to put their face

in front of the camera and they're apologizing. So like, that's fine by me, but it's just like the tone of it, the setting. Yeah. And the content. And now we're in that cycle of you're on the chopping block. We're going to look into everything you've ever done. So old interviews that are actually fucking weird and like are beyond inappropriate are especially given Mila Kunis's age when she started that 70 show which was 14 she said she had her first kiss on set and it was actually with Ashton and so I think people

used to look at that and be like oh that's so cute they ended up getting married and he was her first kiss but they were on I forget what show it was it might have been Conan like one of the an old a show and he they were talking about their first kiss. And they were like just telling the story. And the more they told it, like this is really fucking weird. She was 14. How old was he? 19. Everybody knew that it was like going to be her first kiss ever when they were filming it.

And Danny Masterson like paid or bet Ashton Kutcher like some money to like stick his tongue in her mouth. Because, you know, it's a TV sitcom kiss. It's just supposed to be like lips. But he like, you know, they tried to make it funny. And that was like Mila Kunis' first kiss. And it was just like,

people cited it as a, you know, a pattern with Danny Masterson being fucking creepy 20 years ago. And now even more. But so now they're in that cycle of like internet culture where everything that they've ever done and said is coming out just to kind of prove a pattern of bad behavior and I will say it was compelling yeah no that's it's less bad since they're married and obviously she liked him right whatever and it you know you could put a bow in it but then when you go back and look at everything under a microscope yeah everything looks bad this is just

crazy because these are two celebrities who throughout their career have been almost untouched by scandal yeah and so well liked by their peers by by America, by Hollywood. Like they were just kind of living in this golden situation. And this is something that neither of them really have experience with. And it's interesting because now all these things are coming to light. But when they had come to light, there wasn't crazy. Everyone's now, you know, also citing Demi Moore's book, her memoir, where she says that Ashton Kutcher kind of forced her into doing like things she wasn't comfortable with, like threesomes. And when that came out, like

there wasn't some campaign. They've really just kind of been golden. Yeah. Also, they're so successful that I sometimes think like when you reach a level of success, like you're kind of immune to cancellation. Untouchable. You have like businesses that will thrive with or without you like your money's coming in so it doesn't really matter what the backlash is or what people on twitter are saying about you but i don't know if this is really affecting them or they just care so much about their public image personas that they felt the need to apologize but they seem above you know the the public apology. Public apology. No, the video was a mistake. I think, of course, writing the letters were a mistake.

But I think that's a conversation people could go back and forth on. Like if you love someone. Actually, weirdly enough, Kathy Griffin. So many celebrities have come out and given their thoughts. Topher Grace, who was also on that 70s show. Him and his wife were like totally, like making content, posting content, standing with the victims,

making it clear that they did not think that was the right choice for Ashton Mila. Christina Ricci did the same thing. But Kathy Griffin made a video that I thought was really interesting that I didn't know about her. She said, a lot of people might not know this, but my brother was a pedophile. He, you know, molested young kids.

And Kathy Griffin called the police on him many times and wanted him to get caught. He's no longer alive. And I think that's why she feels comfortable talking about it. But she was citing her experience, like knowing someone you love is capable of doing very disturbing, disgusting, criminal things is definitely a conflict. And she said, in my experience, like I didn't even think twice about protecting people from my brother. I called the police on my brother so that was her her example for something she went through that was similar so I don't think I would have done what they did but they did it and to do it and then like kind of renege and make a video that appeases nobody it's a very bizarre strategy yeah yeah yeah so and like it's so hard to get a rape conviction because it's you need like

a lot of evidence um so the fact that they got it and then it was like trying attempting to be diminished and I know that's what they not they said that's not what they were doing but it does is just I don't know how you can have, like, a literal nonprofit organization. Your whole life's work. They don't really, they're not working actors anymore. I think they wake up every day and they work on Thorne, which is their NGO. Yeah, or, like, he's an investor and does business. Right. So, like, I don't really understand how you could in good conscience write those letters

when for the last several years, like, your work has been to help victims. when for the last several years, like your work has been to help victims. Right. Which is why you have to consider like how they felt, like how they knew him and how they felt about him, that they felt compelled to do that. Because I don't think it was just like a, whatever decision,

we'll write this letter for this person who did terrible things. Like, I think that's what they're trying to say in their video. Like, yeah, I think if you look at it through the lens of them being forced and perhaps blackmailed which I know sounds crazy it does make a lot more sense it makes it easier to digest yeah but I think that the dynamics at play here are a lot more complicated than that like that makes it oh okay now it all makes sense you know bad versus good right we understand but I think that they're struggling with all these different emotions and they were asked to write a character letter about the person that they knew

back they clearly loved it was a big part of their lives enough to do that and they're you know while also having the utmost sympathy and respect for victims because that is their life's work right I think it was a complicated dynamic and that's the decision that they ended up making not the same decision probably a lot of people would make right but I think there were a lot of things that went into it but yeah if you want to think of it as blackmail it makes it a lot more easy to just it just it's one plus one equals two whereas this case it's giving one plus one equals sock yeah it. It's giving sock. So very interesting saga with two celebrities that have really never been through it like this. Yeah. And I think they're making matters worse for themselves.

No, their inexperience is showing. Yeah, for sure. Because I think this new cycle would have washed it out. No, and we could have really, if we never heard from them, we could have really chalked it up. There would have been like an air of mystery to it being like, well, it's a tough spot to be in. You know, we could have really if they if we never heard from them we could have really chalked it up there would have been like an air of mystery to it being like well it's a tough spot to be in you know we could have just continued to guess it would be added to the list of things it's like one day whenever their time came it would be like and they wrote letters for Danny Masterson yeah but no now like hearing their explanation which really was not sufficient or clear no it's

made matters worse. It would have behooved them to stay silent. Like I'm assuming all the other celebrities who are far less famous who wrote letters are going to do. Yeah, they're just going to hide behind Mila and Ashton. No, for sure. You guys take this one. You have enough money. No, you can withstand it.

Some of us can't. Yeah, no, some of them can't. Yeah, very. But you know, at the end of the day I think now everyone's talking about Mila and Ashton what I think a lot of people are like breezing past is he's been sentenced to 30 years in prison which is in my opinion inappropriate sentencing I think a lot of people are like it's really harsh but it's not right so the justice has been served right I guess the letters weren't compelling enough right sometimes

you got to let the wheels of justice turn dude it's so true are you ready for our next story i am kylie jenner and timothy chalamet get touchy feely during a date at the u.s open tennis file final so the u.s open made news this weekend. Obviously, we have new champions. Djokovic. Djokovic. Coco Gauff. We'll talk about the tennis. But we also have to talk about the celebs.

And the headline is Kylie and Timothy, like, took their relationship out for a spin. And they're smitten with each other. They are. They've just kind of been, like, out and about in New York. And they haven't been, like, posting together. But, you know, Fashion Week is full of cameras, cameras social media and we've gotten a few like things of them they went to a dinner together um they went shopping together Jordan Woods was there that was story two subset b it's kind of like been a busy week for Kylie there's a lot to dissect

let's start with just like the videos of them and how they interact as a couple it's extremely cute like you would never catch me standing before like I just I couldn't visualize it but now it's extremely cute like you would never catch me standing before like I just I couldn't visualize it but now it's been visualized for me and I'm into it yes I agree visually they look nice they look so happy and in love and she's never I guess she was that way with Tyga actually very public with him into him you know he was on the show and on the trips and I'm sure Travis Scott was just like a more private person so we didn't really they did like red carpets, but we didn't really get this. Yeah. And she's obviously feeling very confident in their relationship.

Just putting it all on display for us. It's just so funny how like the Kardashian girls like seem to date the same type of men at the same time. Because like, what's his name? Timothee Chalamet like definitely gives p davidson energy definitely gives a travis sparker energy like really skinny i find it funny that like their their taste in men is changing yeah like it's actually yeah no it is and they all really give the same energy and kylie looks really happy she's been so um like touchy like at the Beyonce concert

they're like they look like a regular couple like just like a PDA couple yeah but like extra gorgeous of no of course not just any please and still like Timothy is not like my dream man but Kylie is making me find favor with him I know I'm definitely looking at him like this now, like, oh, differently. Little differently. Yeah. So little different. It looks like they have fun. Plus, you know, we have new winners. U.S. Open has come to a close. It was a very fabulous week. Turdy Lou was spotted at the U.S. Open amongst other celebs. Thank you. How was your experience there? It was great. So many celebrities, especially like these last two days, because those were like the last couple of matches. Leonardo DiCaprio, Amanda Seyfried,

Cara Delevingne, like really everyone. Kylie and Matthew McConaughey. Matthew McConaughey was weirdly in Novak Djokovic's box. So when he won, like everybody runs up to their box and like hugs their family. And like literally before he hugged his wife, he hugged Matthew McConaughey and his wife. Like it was kind of crazy. Cute, cute friendship. Yeah. Like it was just unexpected.

Yeah. Who were you rooting for? Well, the thing is neither one of them were American. So like, whatever, you know, I don't have like a stake in this game.

Like with Coco Gauff, of course, the other girl was Belarusian. So I wanted the American to win. I don't, I don't really know these two men so initially I'm like oh Novak's the goat like of course we're gonna be rooting for Novak but he was the other guy was like losing so bad and like the crowd wasn't with him and I've seen some

videos of him on social media he gives like p-jom energy like I'm an empath I started to feel for him like come on Medvedev like get it together at the end I really had no horse in this race so the greater man won and you know we are living we are watching one of the greats and he's setting new records it was his 24th title he is the oldest person to win a title like that so I love to see people making history when he won he honored his friend I didn't even know they were friends the late Kobe Bryant with he changed his t-shirt put on mamba forever because it was his 24th win and 24 was Kobe so it was nice I was happy with how it ended that's very nice I can't like I didn't watch one second of the U.S. Open you really missed out it was fabulous people watching I'm sure I don't know I just I was never drawn to it and I just missed it but you know what

I was thinking because I've been watching all this Fiori family content and it's like the way I wish I was alive for the Tommy Fury Jake Paul fight six months ago which I was like that's a thing that like I totally missed but I was alive and present could have watched it yep maybe that's how I'll feel about the U.S. Open in a few months after I watch the Novak documentary actually there is a documentary on Netflix called Match Point I haven't watched it but it's about like the life of a pro tennis player. And is it better than the movie Match Point? No, definitely not. The movie Match Point is one of the world's greatest gifts. Movie Match Point greater than documentary Match Point.

You said it there, sister. You said it there. Yeah. So now I'm ready. I think Tommy has a fight in a few weeks. So like I'll definitely be watching. Yeah, you got to get that pay-per-view. Can you order pay-per-view on YouTube TV?

I think they're totally separate. Like pay-per-view is an app. No, no, on youtube tv i think they're totally separate like pay-per-view is an app no no it's a channel i'm sure it'll be streaming somewhere i'm sure that if i want to buy it they will take my money and find me actually they make it really fucking hard to like spend your money when you want to watch pay-per-view actually i'm kind of dealing with a with an issue with my cable company right now because there was a jake paul fight last month and we had like some people over so i was like oh let me buy it 60 bucks first of all they charged me twice so I get my bill this month I'm like oh excuse me I had to submit a ticket it was like a whole thing they call me I got my money back but you I like I think you have to have cable it's pay-per-view

like that's it's like an old school thing perhaps did Jake Paul win his fight that you watched I fell asleep before Jake they have like a whole lineup there's like girl fights and then smaller guys like right it's like a whole lineup and I got bored I don't remember well now I also I like Jake Paul fights too because I watched untold Jake Paul the problem child so I'm really just into boxing now and I'll be watching these going forward it's no it's like a fun thing when there's a fight on. Because like especially if it's a fight that everyone's talking about. Like you invite everyone over.

And like you have snacks. It's kind of like the Super Bowl. Like I just can't imagine there ever being like a boxing fight more culturally relevant in my sphere than Jake Paul and Tommy Fury. And you missed it. And I fucking missed it. But just know like when the time comes for you to watch your next fight. Like the main event like doesn't start till midnight. Okay. Good to know.

But also now having watched more content of, you know, Tyson and Tommy, sometimes these things turn into like a saga, like a trilogy. And I think Tommy and Jake would rematch. I could see Jake challenging him to a rematch. Well, Tommy won. Yeah. So Tommy's probably happy, like maybe never doing it again. But Jake is like no bitch I want

some more right but also it's like for the vibes and also if you want to be the best you've got to beat the best so I don't think Tommy would shy away from anything and I think you make a lot of money especially when you're fighting Jake Paul who brings in so many viewers you do make a lot of money now can we really quickly go back to subset b of kylie and jordan yes kylie and jordan reunited they were spotted together at the acne um studio store kylie's the new face of acne studios and kylie posted a tiktok including jordan so this is like the second or third time that the girlies have been girlying and i think it's you know abundantly clear that they've made up. And I'm so here for the reunion. Like because this was a great friendship. I just like have a hard time like really truly getting into the mindset.

Like I feel like if I was Jordan. Yeah. I could never be friends with Kylie again. Even though like of course Jordan like made the mistake. She kissed Tristan. Whatever. But like the fallout was so insane. And I'm sure like it really was traumatizing.

That's sort of like torpedo of internet hate. Like, I honestly just don't know how like you can go back to that for real. Yeah, not even the internet hate, but the fact that like you lived without me in your life. Like we were living together. I had to leave your house. You know, you've been doing all these things the last few years I haven't been a part of you had a child and then how you just kind of like not jump back into things but resume a friendship with all of

that kind of looming I don't know how I'm sure they've worked through it and that those things aren't an issue but that takes actually a lot of emotional work yeah and now uh people did notice uh on TikTok that Jordan Woods had reposted a video that was like a joke about how whenever you're watching the Kardashians and Kendall comes on screen you press fast forward she had reposted it that's which is so funny because if she's gonna like dislike anyone I wouldn't imagine it's Kendall. You never know. It's also entirely possible like it was an accident.

I mean, it's very hard to repost a video on accident. You have to press like four buttons. Yeah. No, I don't think it was an accident. I know it would be easier for everyone just like Scientology blackmailed them for us to say, oh, accident. But I think there's a lot of dynamics at play here. I completely agree just an interesting thing to note while she's been out and about with Kyleena yeah but she's also like not wrong no she's not wrong because you know health is really important to Kendall

right right and that doesn't always make the most compelling tv no and it doesn't have to it does not have to not everyone needs to be making the most compelling TV. She's making compelling photo shoots. I don't fast forward through those. You don't. I don't fast forward through her Instagram photos. They're very nice. Yeah, you can be good at everything. Not everything can be, everyone can be everything to everyone. All at once. Everywhere. Exactly. Are you ready for our next story? If it's our next story, that's brought to you by Pillsbury. Whoa. Yeah. Yum. I mean, you know me, I'm an extremely picky eater. I feel like we have a lot of listeners who have children they cook for who probably have the same level of

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Our next story, Chris Evans marries Alba Batista in a Cape Cod wedding with superhero co-stars as guests. And hearts are breaking around the globe. Hearts breaking everywhere chris evans is married the actor wed alba batista during a ceremony at a private estate in cape cod massachusetts on saturday a source told people many of the couple's famous friends were spotted in nearby boston for the wedding including his co-stars robert downey jr and his wife chris hemsworth and his wife and jeremyemsworth and his wife, and Jeremy Renner,

John Krasinski, and Emily Blunt. Yeah, apparently like Boston was crawling with celebs all weekend on their way to Cape Cod. Now, Alba Batista is a normie, correct? I believe so. I cannot think of her, and whenever I see a picture of them, I'm like, this is a romance novel. Like, it's not real. and whenever I see a picture of them, I'm like, this is a romance novel. Like, it's not real. He is a romance novel. And he's like... Pro-hero.

What are they called? Leading man? Yeah, but like for the entirety of his career, like he has been the most eligible bachelor. Like everyone is obsessed with him. He literally plays Captain America, right? Yeah. Like the biggest superhero in the world.

Like everyone's just obsessed with him. And he finds like this really beautiful, you know, girl, you know, has a simple life. She comes from a simple, normal background. It's literally like a Tessa Bailey novel. It's not real. Yes. Also, she's not a normie. She's an actress who starred in Mrs. Harris Goes to Paris.

Oh, I loved that book. Netflix's Warrior Nun. Oh, okay. You know what? I'm glad that she's like industry, like, you know, in the industry. Can be in the world. Okay, I liked the story better, like when she was in Normie. It was like more of a fairy tale that I would read in a book.

I liked it better. But it makes more sense. Like how would a Normie even meet Chris Evans? No, but I could see him being into Normies. it better um but it makes more sense like how would a normie even meet chris evans no but i could see him being into normies but he's also just like i i don't know i i feel like this will be a successful match i do too because he's not like he's not a serial dater yeah i've always just found the vibe that he like wants to find the right girl and i feel like the only relationship he's been in that I know about

is he was with Jenny Slate for many, many years. So he's clearly like a relationship guy. Yeah. It's nice. I like wish she was a Normie that like kind of ruined the fantasy for me. Well, there's always Jonah Hill. There's always Jonah Hill.

Literally. I'm sure he was on the phone with Mila and Ashton there's always Jonah Hill. Literally. Yeah. Literally. I'm sure he was on the phone with Mila and Ashton this weekend. Jonah? Yeah. Why?

All calling in from a bunker of canceled people. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Of people going through it. Comparatively, comparatively, Jonah Hill, like, is nothing.

Really, you think? Oh, yeah. See? This, you could always, it could always be worse. It it's true you could always be Mila and Ashton for today until it's the next person it's so true but I feel like this might be like just the beginning of like a slew of bad weeks for Mila and Ashton honestly because of like these old videos and stuff yeah and this is just like it's so serious you know yes like the Jonah Hill thing like I don't know it was just I feel like you could chalk it up to like Instagram drama like well I feel like actually it's a little different you

could say you could actually make the argument that one is worse than the other because like in the Mila and Ashton case it's like they didn't do anything right they didn't do any bad behavior I don't know what the internet's gonna dig up but the case you know they just are supporting their friend who did whereas with Jonah yes it's not like serious crimes alleged but it was his behavior yeah no that's actually a good point so I'm sure they're going back and forth in the bunker about who has it worse. Yeah. Right, right, right. That's funny. Anyways, Mazel Tov to Chris Evans. Yes.

Very, very nice. Very happy for him. But you know what? A Cape Cod wedding really is like a romance novel. It's giving Ellen Hildebrand. Jackie, I'm telling you. Like, when I just see a picture of them, like, she's so, she really is so normal looking. She's like this beautiful, simple girl who, like, doesn't wear a lot of makeup because she's naturally beautiful. I know, but now that you know she's an actress, it's like, oh, no, she did have her makeup done.

And that's, like, the look. Yeah, no, it's definitely, the fantasy is over. Well, I think you should write a romance novel that's fan fiction, like, based on these two, what you thought about them. No, I'm kind of obsessed. Write it, girl. Write it of obsessed. Write it, girl. Writer girl. Writer girl. Write it, girl, comma, writer girl.

Exclamation point. Yes, ma'am. Exclamation point. Yes, girly. Girly. Girly. Let's move on. Girly. Let's move on. Carly,

let's move on to our next story. Is this fourth or fifth? Fourth. Okay. Joe Jonas is addressing the messy divorce rumors from Sophie Turner. They performed in LA at Dodger Stadium on Saturday night. And Joe took to the mic, said,

it's been a crazy week. I just want to say, look, if you don't hear it from these lips, don't believe it, okay? He said, thank you everyone for your love and support. Me and my family love you guys. Then they sang Hesitate. Oh, that's the song he wrote about Sophie.

So it was like a very intentional timing for a little speech. I just want to say, I feel like this fixes nothing. This helps nobody. No, but I think it, I think there's been a major turn in public perception. And that's why I don't think he would have said anything if like the narrative had continued to go his way. So reading between the lines of what he said and from sort of like my spectator's point of view, not like TikTok memes, Twitter twitter it's like when they announced the divorce

there was some shady language about sophie because the kids are with joe and joe's on a world tour and why is that and it just leaves one to wonder what's going on with sophie um and so then people started to say like well joe's planting these like nasty things about sophie and people didn't like that very misogynist that like why not the camera footage the ring camera why shouldn't the kids be with their father it wouldn't be news if they were with their mother no and it's like there's paparazzi of him having lunch with his kids and they're like oh my god your kids need to eat like right right and if there was paparazzi of them having lunch with sophie it wouldn't be news crazy it's like they're still with their parent.

Right. So then people, you know, thought that Joe was planting those things probably to make Sophie look bad. And now they're all want to defend Sophie against like these allegations. And so he's definitely he's had the adverse effect. Right. So he's saying if I didn't say it, it wasn't said. Don't believe it. So he wants us to believe that all the things that came out really negative at Sophie had nothing to do with him yeah pretty much and that it's not necessarily

true if he didn't say it and he didn't say it I don't know yeah I'm definitely a part of the people who like it's had a negative effect on like when all these things started to come out I'm like this is a little too convenient you know it takes two people to break up a marriage it really does yeah well then also then it came out someone some source had said that Joe wasn't there for Sophie when she like struggled after she had her second child so there's kind of very I don't even want to say like mudslinging because it's so subliminal, you know, and it's like source, source, source. And it's just like ring camera. Not even what was, was it said or was it done?

They didn't even know. Or they didn't even say. So it's like, they're just planting these really tiny seeds that are on the one hand so vague, it could be innocuous. But on the other hand, then your mind starts to wander. What did he see on the ring camera? And you think of the worst possible thing. Like cheating.

Yeah. Or her like saying something, know so bad about him yeah I've seen some funny tweets I know people are being funny and I'm enjoying it yeah no we have to be able to laugh through the pain we're all of course painful for all of us we're mourning the loss of a great celebrity couple but I think we just need to pull back from this and be like, you know, there's definitely wrong, or, you know, both parties are hurt. You never want to see a divorce happen. Now they're starting, like, to sort of say some mean stuff about each other, but let's not listen.

How about that? Okay. Okay. You know? I just, I think maybe he thought this speech would, like, call off the dogs a little bit. And I feel it's very non-impactful. But he also needs to call off his dogs who are planting these sorts of things.

In addition to calling off people who are like, you know, saying mean things about him too. Yeah. I just think it's hard and all of these different factors don't make it any easier. Yes, I agree. And I also think like for him to be going through such a public divorce that was like really nobody saw coming and to have to get on stage every night and sing and be in front of people.

Like that must be really hard for him. I'm also sure given that this was probably the last thing that he wanted at this time. You know what I mean? Because even if he did want a divorce, I doubt he wanted it when he's also going to go perform tonight. The timing couldn't be worse, even though I think one could argue it makes the tour more interesting. Yeah.

But you have to be really like. Diabolical. To care more about the interest of your tour. It's not like they had a hard time selling tickets versus how it will feel to go out every night and you know what everybody's thinking about you. True, true, true true so i'm gonna give them grace wow she's giving grace what if we just gave a little grace it's giving grace grace that's me it's you Are you ready for our fifth and final story? If it's the fifth and final story, that's brought to you by State Farm. It is.

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what caught people's eye in addition to the gargis threads was her necklace that says her kids names uh what's that one tatum true dream i just want to say like this is unintentionally like the best, most amazing money Fabletics has ever spent. Right. Like for some of your Instagram content to go viral and it's an ad. Oh my God. That's clicks you can't even pay for. Yes. For sure.

Dream. Dream. Kardashian. Dream. So everyone noticed immediately. Like it's not uncommon to have a necklace with your kid's name on it. I know you wear a Harry necklace. I'm sure you'll have a Charlie one soon Like, it's not uncommon to have a necklace with your kid's name on it. I know you wear a Harry necklace. I'm sure you'll have a Charlie one soon.

Like, it's not uncommon. But Dream, especially after, like, this most recent season of Kardashians, she actually had to release a statement saying, like, she doesn't see herself as, you know, Dream's mother. But she's clearly very involved in Dream's life. And what she had said on Kardashians was that she feels like, you know, a third parent. Yeah. And even though that didn't play well with audiences that doesn't change the reality of their day-to-day yeah and we don't know what that is but if dream is with her almost as much as her

kids are and she's wearing a necklace that just say Tatum and true you know that could be hurtful to dream and so I think at the end of the day it's just about like what's dream seeing on this woman that she spends all of her time with who treats her like a child her own child you know in a wonderful way I don't think Chloe's trying to usurp China in any way and I do think that if she was so concerned about what people thought about it she would have tucked her necklace in so like I think that this necklace is just a representation of the reality of their lives. Yeah. I mean, what we don't know much about like Rob's situation, but we do know that he has primary custody.

I think it's one day a week or maybe two that China has custody. And Rob and Chloe are so close. I'm sure every day he has dream. He just goes over to the house and they all hang out together. So in a weird way, it looks like a very, you know, typical family. Yeah. So you're right actually that's an amazing point that like if they're all hanging out all the time and you know dreams learning to read and she sees a necklace and it's like bitch where am I yeah no it's true it's at the end of the day it's sweet but there's definitely a complicated dynamic

with China definitely and I just want to say, I love the necklace and I want one. So if she could drop the link. It's really cute. If the necklace company could do an ad, drop a link. I love it. By the way, I had read a few weeks ago

because, you know, China's on this like journey of redemption. China's found God. China has found God. She removed a lot of her filler. She's dressing more conservatively. She's kind of turning into like a kept woman. Actually, I don't know.

Is kept woman the right word? Because she's a business owner. That's not what I meant. I meant like a traditionalist, if you will. And I had read that she was going to begin the process of fighting for more custody. Okay, well, it seems like she's in a good place now. I hope that that is how this story ends. Because when you watch

like Kardashians and how they're like you know dream is such a big part of their lives and then you also look at China's social media and it's really like she is trying really to better to better herself I do hope that means that these two parties can come together the elephant in the room is the hundred million dollar lawsuit and it's like how do you get how do you get past that I really don't know oh that's an amazing question I totally had forgotten about that I would love to you know think of a future where we can get to a place where like they really do get past it and China ultimately like feels enormous gratitude to Chloe for helping out when China was struggling um I don't know if

we'll ever get to a place like that right but. But it's like Chyna and Kim used to be really good friends. I know. So it's not. It is so crazy. Like when you think back on Rob and Chyna, when you think back on Kylie and Tyga and Chyna, when you think back on the picture that they took in front of the mirror, like it was really not a normal time.

No, it's crazy. And you like to think that maybe they could get back to that place considering like they were friends. They get along. They did. But the lawsuit throws a wrench into things. So I don't know how that would go. But I think it's possible. Also, the Kardashians are very forgiving. And Chloe is very, like, she doesn't hold on to stuff. I mean, she's forgiving Tristan, obviously. Right. I feel like this would be the biggest thing they would have to forgive. You know, all the China stuff.

But I think that they would and could do it if she were genuinely sorry. The only reason that they could is because one thing about them, the only thing, like, the thing that always comes first is the kids and they would put aside personal grievances for dream and that's just the kind of people that they are like for real yeah but this would be the biggest thing they've I think that they've had to forgive yeah that was like remember like Chris like they really tried to make it work like they gave her the own show they were living in that house like they tried to make it nice and it didn't work out that was so crazy it was crazy but none of that is as crazy as the lawsuit no yeah the time the energy the days the stress like of the money going to court i honestly i don't know if it's forgivable

and also is china sorryyna take it back? What the forgiveness? Yeah, is Chyna asking for forgiveness? I don't know. These are big questions. Does Chyna really think like, okay, you know what? I was wrong. You guys didn't.

You weren't the reason that he took my show away. Yeah. Without that, there's no conversation to be had. Yeah, no, it's a good question. Like, is she even playing ball? Like, is this a fruitless conversation? Is she asking for forgiveness? Right, right, right. Well, I think the necklace is sweet. I'm sure some people see it as weird. I think the necklace is so sweet and indicative of their reality. And in which case, you know, Chloe's a wonderful woman.

I mean, Chloe, I think time after time has really shown, like she has endless love to give. She has an enormous heart. She's like a deeply good person. Yeah. And I want that necklace. So it's sweet. Like I'm not going to make it weird.

Yeah. Is it diamonds? I can't see. It looks just like silver to me. Oh, Jackie's fixated on the necklace. Yeah. Drop the link. Thanks looks just like silver to me. Oh, Jackie's fixated on the necklace. Yeah. Drop a link. Thanks, girl.

Drop the link. I'm sure whoever made it will be, you know, posting about it in no time. Capitalizing on the momentum. Hopefully a toaster to let us know where we can shop it. Maybe it's Fabletics. Maybe they're going into jewelry. Maybe it's a TOB, a toaster-owned business. I would love that.

Love a TOB. Those were great stories. Like, really toaster on business. I would love that. Love a TOB. Those were great stories. Like really compelling stuff this week. Yeah, but it's also just because it's like me and you doing our thing. So true. Oh my God, I miss you so much, girlfriend. Well, what's exciting is that you're on twice this week. I am on twice this week on Friday.

Not only am I on, but we'll be together in Florida. Yes. Flamingo style. So we've got a great week. We posted the schedule on our Instagram. Today we got Jax. Tomorrow we got Taylor Strecker. Wednesday we've got Hannah Berner. Thursday we've got a great week. We posted the schedule on our Instagram today. We got Jax. Tomorrow we got Taylor Strecker. Wednesday we've got Hannah Burner.

Thursday we've got a major celebrity coming in, Ben Soffer. And Friday, back with Jax. Good way to start and end the week. You know, original recipe. It's like, it's giving palindrome. It's giving bookends. It's giving bookends because it's not a true palindrome. Unless BSC was doing Tuesday and Thursday.

And no, it's not a true palindrome unless bsc was doing tuesday and thursday and no it's not a palindrome no you know who let me not realizing what not me not realizing like what a palindrome was until you just said that you know who loves a palindrome race car young sheldon he does love a palindrome um all right well that's our show jacks thank you for your time thank you for your company and thank you for all the other shows that you are gracing us with enjoy motherhood thank you enjoy auntiehood I will as will I

thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast the Millennium Morning Show where we deliver the past five stories that you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube oh I wanted to address something Stitcher has gone out of business well that's not funny. Sorry. It's

just funny that that's what you need to address. Yeah, no, I like kind of the elephant in the room. And I do. I think a lot of people were waiting to be like, what will she do? I will not be updating the I think half the platforms I say are out of business, but it's just kind of like not my problem, you know? And also like it's part of the zeitgeist's just kind of like, not my problem, you know? And also like, it's part of the zeitgeist at this point. It's not about the platforms. Like we know you're all listening on Apple or Spotify.

Yeah. And I'm like, I'm sorry that a billion dollar company like Sirius XM couldn't keep Stitcher afloat. Like that's, I don't see how that becomes my problem and I have to shift and evolve. And you have to change your ways. So having said that,

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Like I think it still is. Like you can really listen to podcasts on like a lot of different apps. If you Google the Toast podcast like there's endless links of where you can listen to it. Google Play.

Oh no but like stuff like literally let me do it. It's. Yeah. But I just want to say like I'm not changing my outro. I don't want you to. Okay, good. Because I'm not.

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Podbean. I've heard of pod bean my point proven yeah great and my point that i'm not changing anything is also proven okay because you know what i'm a creature of habit it's and that's folklore it's folklore and it's like if i'm expected to shift my outro every time some podcast app flops. There'll be no end of it. No, we just can't be beholden to the tides of the industry. We can't be beholden to the tides of the industry. That's what I'm saying. So have a great day, everyone.

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