The Toast - Wokechella: Monday, April 13th, 2026

Episode Date: April 13, 2026

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It's Jackson, Claude and neighbor show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Monday after Coachella. It's ToastCella. Welcome back. Hey, Jacks.

How you motherfucking Dern? Dern good. Toastella greater than Coachella. Do you feel this call? Wokecella. There was like so many scandals. I know you don't even know about them because a lot of them are happening on TikTok. woke wires crossing chella yeah like oh i loved it we have so much to talk about oh i want to know more

than what i know you have no idea what's going on do you know about the starbucks creator house i don't know about the starbucks creator house but that's our sponsor right there what they do i will tell you all about it in our first story where we recap cocella hey jacks welcome back to the show i didn't speak to you all weekend we kept missing each other we were playing phone tag all weekend i think starting friday night we actually spoke a little bit friday night but then of course like ben walked into the room and i was done. Ruined everything. By the way, classic Claude.

Claude? Classic Ben. He comes in the room and just like demands like, he's so controlling. But like classic Claude hanging up for him. Yeah, sorry. Like I'm like a, I'm like, I'm like, if you're in the room with me, you do take precedent unless there's like an emergency on the phone. No, I'm just saying.

I feel like people wouldn't like think that about you. I let a man control me. And I think something of it just could actually like benefit from being controlled by your man because some of you guys are out of control. I'm 100% kidding. Yeah, no. She lets a man control her. I just feel like people don't know that about her.

No, and I just want to say letting a man control you is grossly underrated. I'm not talking about obviously in like a toxic manipulative, abusive way. I'm talking about just like a few years ago, I made the decision to like let Ben do stuff. Okay. Because I'm very controlling and like I have to do it. And then I think maybe when I was pregnant, I didn't have the energy I couldn't do things. So I started relying on Ben for like random things. And now Ben does a lot of things.

and I feel like I'm actually doing less. And it's such a genuine pleasure to be a kept woman in whatever regard, whether your husband pays the bills or your husband does all the physical labor in the house. Like normalize, like letting your husband do stuff. It's kind of amazing. Okay. So that's not him controlling you. If you just like relinquished a tiny bit of control.

He thinks he's controlling me, but I'm really controlling him. T. Well, all is to say, we didn't get to talk to this weekend. Because Ben, I did, I'm exhausted. I am exhausted. I did not stop socializing this weekend. Like, my social battery, zero. Sorry to hear it.

I went out Friday night after bedtime, Saturday night after bedtime, and I was out all day, Sunday, like socializing with friends, you know? I guess that's what happens when you just like pick up and hang out with your family for three months straight. Like, you do have to come back. And like mend fences, yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's nice.

I had a very relaxing weekend. A lot of time patting around the house with Mac. You know, Zach took the big boys out, got them their energy out. And then I get to stay cozy. Yeah, but we did go out last night. We went out for dinner to your favorite restaurant. Oh, you did go out to dinner to my favorite restaurant in Florida. And when I was in Florida, I asked you 1,000 times if we could go to my favorite restaurant and you were just like always busy or, you know.

They never could take us. And like, we need to eat so early. And they never could take us so early, really. they never could take it so early. We went at like four, but we ate at five. I did so many things. Like, first of all, I was like so out and about. I went out with my celebrity mom group.

I don't know if you guys saw my viral TikTok that I made. Do you post it on reels? Why didn't you post it on reels? I don't know. I don't like, I feel shy on reels on TikTok. I know. I feel like you only give your best of your best to reels. Yeah.

And I need to stop doing that. I don't know. But why wouldn't you feel like that was your best of your best, especially if it's like with Stasi, Shannon, Shannon Taylor. And they are like big on Instagram too. Yeah, no, I should have just like converted to reels now. It's too late for sure. I did something crazy that evening. What did you do? Okay, so we were ordering food and ordering appetizers and we went to like this very like fancy restaurant. They serve like a lot of champagne caviar martini vibes. You know, very like New York. Like they're kind of Russian actually. And everyone's like being weird about appetizers. I said you guys like a fun fact I mean I don't eat appetizers. So like do the appetizers amongst yourself. And they're like shit. be do this and should be do that and they're all just like giving weird eyes. I'm like, what's not being said here? And of course, Taylor's Trecker was like, does anyone like want to get caviar? And you know, it's like $400 so you can't just order

it for the group. And then of course Shannon and Stasi were like, for sure. So I don't partake in those sort of festivities. My palate is just not mature enough. And they brought it out and everyone's like, you know, eating it up. And I'm just like looking around being like, you know, we are going to have to split this dinner right down the middle. And everyone's indulging in $400 caviar. And the way they served it, it came with a bugle, like the chips I used to put on your pinky finger. You know, I love a bugle.

And I felt weird about just like taking just a bugle, like how tacky am I? So they were like, you have to try. And so everyone actually made me a little bugle in a way that they thought I would like it. And I was like judging whose was the best. Taylor Shrekker really does know me. Let me tell you it was kind of good.

Caviar is good. That's the headline. The bugle definitely like was the right vessel for me. But I ate caviar. And then the next night, Ben ordered it too. when I ate it again. It's so good. You're going to get gout.

Well, then at dinner I was, Shannon and I were like, we're going to get gout, ha ha. And Stasi was like, well, you can't actually get gout because, you know, Stasi's like a period piece girl. She watches and reads a lot about like old period. When, you know, the King's disease was very popular. I get gout back in the day. It comes up now. She didn't know that like in the modern era.

It comes up now with lottery winners. And Brian Kelly. Like, but in fact is like, I know someone who had gout. And Shannon also knows someone who has gout. And Stassie thought we were like pranking. her she was like you can't get gout now that's like telling someone about that consumption it's like she had no idea gout existed in the modern world and i'm like no no no it 100% it's like watch that toe i'm like your big toe it like it's very painful actually she's like you guys are fucking with me she literally

did not believe us i'm like why would we make that up like a hundred but you would i would yeah so it's it's reasonable that she thought you were messing with her then i also went out saturday night like yeah i went to the polo bar I'm extremely cool. Like, I'm sorry, I don't know what you guys want me to say. I went to the polo bar and I had an amazing meal and I had an amazing time. I was so tired. And then on Sunday I woke up and I went to Jersey City and you know I only crossed state lines for one person, two people, one household, one household.

Three people. One household. I got to make the Taylor's baby. I haven't met them. And Ben has met her weirdly before me. Oh my God. Taylor, Taylor and Taylor Jr.? TJ.

Do they call her Taylor Jr.? No, they call her about which is like it. her T.J. Oh my God. She was so cute. And then Brian came with his kids who have obviously met, but it was just like sort of a meeting of the minds. Kind of what Taylor Shrekker was calling the Turnt Girls reunion. Kind of like turnt girls all grown up, you know? Do the Turnt girls know that there's a war on Turned? That's a good question. I don't think they do because we're still using it and it's like, oh, it was a safe space. Like we were using it in its original form. Yeah, but you guys definitely have haters. One thousand percent. Oh, and I told Ben also this weekend that we have

to watch Ken Burns Central Park because we went to Central Park on Saturday. And we just situated ourselves up on this hill. We rolled out our outdoor blanket. And it was kind of like, like, that hill just landed there. That hill was part of a month's, years long planning process. And Ben and I were talking about how it was kind of like the best hour of our life. It was the most perfect day. I was perched up on a hill. I could see the duck pod. The cherry blossoms were in bloom. And like, I don't know if I've ever been happier in my life than I was sitting on this hill that Ken Burns built. So I said, Ben, you know, we have to watch this thing.

We didn't, but we will. It's like on my list. And you know that Ken Burns didn't build it. You know that, right? I've seen the Mindy Project. I know who Ken Burns is. Okay, okay. I just, like, don't want to be spreading misinformation.

God forbid, we would never. Never. I also did something crazy. I started that book that everyone's talking about strangers. I was talking to, like, former members of my book club, which, like, hasn't met in two years. And everyone was like, somebody wrote in the chat, like, is anyone reading books anymore?

And we were like, yeah. A couple of people were like, I'm about to start. I'm thinking about starting strangers. And they were like, should we read it and get together? So Hope Springs Eternal for my book club. That would be a good book club book. I'm really enjoying it. I didn't know really anything about it going into it.

It says like strangers, a memoir of a broken marriage, whatever. So I'm like, okay, it's a memoir. It's like about a divorce. I'm going to read it, so don't tell me. I'm not going to tell you that much, but then I start reading it. And I'm like, oh, right, a memoir. Even sometimes in the book, if they're like, this is my story, I'm like, well, is that just a ploy?

You know, like, is it really a work of nonfiction, which it is. It's just this woman's memoir. But this woman, aside from her story of her divorce, like, is like a crazy legacy. Like her grandma is Babe Paley who was like married to. Wait, please don't tell me. No, no, but it's not a spoiler or anything. No, I know. I just like, I want to go into the book how you went into the book.

Just like completely blind. I'm like, this woman has like such like. Impressive. Yeah, and she's just like spilling the beans. It's kind of great. she's earned the right to do so. I'm in the middle of the Redhead's book next to heaven. I would say I'm about 60% through.

I'm really enjoying it. But he kind of needs to get to the point. And you know, I really don't like reading books written by men. It makes you feel weird. And on the book jacket, he's got this big picture of himself. And I keep accidentally flipping to it. And the book is kind of sexual. And it's just like...

Oh, wait. I haven't seen the photo. Yeah, you don't. Like, don't. I don't mind reading books by men because I so rarely do it that it's like just something different. And then on the book jacket, it says he's the bad boy of American literature. He is. You know, he was like so.

canceled. Was he? He's a canceled author. Yeah. Wait, what did he do? Okay, maybe you remember this when we were growing up. His name's James Frey. He had the biggest book in the world called A Million Little Pieces. It was Oprah's Book Club book. It like took over the country. You know how once in a while memoir does that. Yeah. Everyone's talking about it's the biggest thing. Strangers. Strangers. Bigger than that. Like just everywhere this book was. And then it turned out that he like, it was his memoir and it or his story. And it turned out that like he made up like a lot of it and wasn't like totally I don't really care I don't really care either but that is dishonest so this particular book I like because each chapter's like three or four pages and I could be like oh just one

more chapter I like you know me I like like short things but each chapter you know there's like this big mystery right I think they tell you at the beginning someone gets murdered and you don't know who it is how it is who what I'm where why and so each chapter is like sort of leading up to this big build of who gets murdered and why and it's like just you need to sort of land the plane already I've read a hundred chapters and it's like like you need to sort of land the plane already I've read a hundred chapters and it's like, and he always wins until he doesn't. And it's like, well, what are we talking about? Every chapter ends in like some sort of clip hanger spooky.

And she was smiling until she wasn't. Now that you're reading it, who do you think, like, while you're in the middle of it, who do you think gets murdered? Obviously, it's going to be Anna because everybody here is like wealthy and privileged. And she's just like, you know, the lovely housekeeper trying to make enough money to send back to her family who was deported. So like the book, like she's obviously the one who's going to get killed. And she's like getting a little too involved with like the crazy rich people.

Yeah. Okay. We'll circle back on that prediction. Um, wait, I had something else to say. Because we've got a lot of stories to discuss. I know.

And I kind of want to get all my like personal drama out of the way. So I'm not like coming back. Are you having a lot of personal drama? Always. Like when you have as many friends as I do, it kind of comes with the territory, you know? Yeah. What was I going to say?

Ugh. It'll come back. You know, I've actually been thinking, I need to get like a really cute pad and pen. Yeah, I've been saying. Have you? I have one. It's amazing. Let's shut that down.

Like, but like, no, I need it right here. Yeah. On my arm chair. You have one? I don't see it. It's over there. It's over there. It's straight.

It's straight. Give me one minute. We were talking about. Strangers Bell Burden. What did we talk about right before Bell Burden? Whatever. It's like how interesting is it listening to somebody like. Yeah.

Trying to recall it's almost as bad. Actually, I had a crazy dream this weekend, but I won't tell you. Absolutely not. I won't tell you, but I tell a couple of people and they were like really shocked by it. So it would sound like, if you're personally invested in like my life, which I think that you are, you would care about the dream. But nobody listening to the podcast would care about the dream. But I was thinking about dreams in general.

Like I feel like they're the only part of like the world, like, you know, human beings that like doesn't make sense. You know, like everything else about human beings like serves a function. It's so rational to the next thing. Like every set down to the cells in our body. what the fuck are dreams i thought you what you were going to say that i think is a better point not to like you know not support your calls well assess why do you why don't you throw it out there i think the craziest part of dreams is that it's the only part of like the human experience it's

like genuinely like what's what i'm looking for like you i do believe you connect with like alternate universities and those who have passed away like all through your dreams like everything is so grounded in reality like your body but like your dreams are the one time as a human being where you get to experience like, I don't know, some like spooky magical realism, you know? That's literally what I was saying. Everything else makes sense. Oh, I guess like we did say the same thing,

but mine, I feel like I frames it a little bit more like whimsical. Okay, but I'm so glad that we, it's the same thing that we're saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All is that to say, I had a crazy dream this weekend. And I won't tell you guys about it. Because it is spooky whimsical, so it's nonsensical, really. Yeah, yeah. Which is weird because the rest of the world is very orderly.

Ain't that the truth. Artemis returned. It's a story. Oh, okay. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Let's get into the stories because there's lots to discuss in the fast five stories

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let's break it down in a couple of categories first let's start with the performances you know that's what everybody shows up for and let's sort of go in like order of how we experienced it so i saw sabrina and i just want to say not ounce of my soul wanted to be a Coachella. Like, it's a young girl's game. You know, I'm not interested. However, like, seeing Sabrina, whom, like, I think it's one of the greatest performers of our time. Like, she fires on all cylinders constantly.

Wardrobe, dancing, pyro, vocals, hair, like, everything. She's so amazing. I just love her so much. It was so fun. It was so fresh. I feel like she's been on tour for, like, three years straight. And I know her tour by heart right by now, like from TikTok, the same outfits, the Juno position, yada, yada.

This was totally new. totally fresh. I hadn't seen most of it before and I actually really wanted to be there. It looked like I just love her. Yeah, it looked really amazing. Like the sets were insane. Insane. And just like really big. Really big. She was just firing on all cylinders in every category. Like doing the most dancing, the most with the background singers, the most with like,

it was just a spectacle as Coachella should be. You know, it's a performance for a hundred thousand people, some of whom are standing a mile away. Like you need to be able to see things. It's a big thing. So I thought she crushed it. Yeah, it looked really amazing, but was totally overshadowed by the scandal that she's found herself in. Oh, yeah. So during her performance, and also all the performances are like live streamed, you can watch at home. So people were watching at home and everybody's...

So it's not even like you're performing for 100,000 people. You're performing for like 5 million people. And it's like high quality. It's like a concert DVD. Yep, yep. But in a clip from the festival, an audience member can be heard voicing, what we now know is a Zagruta. chand and Sabrina stops the concert while she's sitting at the piano she says I think I heard someone yodel is that what you're doing I don't like it the attendee so it's like a quiet part of the

concert yeah she's like sitting at the piano talking and someone is doing this is a gruta cheer so i actually know the cheer because it's north african so um it's middle eastern and north african so when i do it with my Moroccan like i've been to our wedding in Morocco where I like like and it's like a celebratory chant it's very positive and it's not like it's not it's not um it's not um specific to like one religion either. I feel like people are like thinking that it's, you know, she's being Islamophobic. I mean, Muslims do it, Christians do it.

Jews do it. It's just a, it's regional more so. It's not religious. And so we don't even know the person who was doing it in the audience. She could be a Jew and believe in God. She could be a Christian. Yeah, no, it's true. So it is associated with a region.

So then she goes, the person in the audience is having a conversation with Sabrina somehow. Which is insane when you think about the like, Like how big it is. I can't believe you can't even hear someone in the front row when you're Sabrina. The stage is so big. Even if you have barricade, like you're the first person, you are still maybe 100 feet away from the performer. And we can hear it in the live stream.

It's so crazy. They must have been doing it so loud. So the girl shouts back, it's my culture. And Sabrina's like, that's your culture, is yodeling. And the audience member yell back. It's a call of celebration. And then Sabrina goes, is this Burning Man? What's going on?

This is weird. And then she went back to her performance. I will say the interaction is so strange on both of their parts. Like Sabrina, this is the biggest moment of your career. Why have you stopped to acknowledge some random in the audience? Random in the audience. I appreciate you trying to make this a teachable moment, but just like genuinely not the time.

Of course the people on the internet just ran with it. So much. I thought it was so silly. Like it was so clearly a misunderstanding. Like, sure, you could say Sabrina's being insensitive. She has no idea what's going on. You could also argue that like the person screaming in the front row and Sabrina's trying to have a quiet moment is disrespectful to the performer.

Like, are we really going to dive into this random moment where she is in-ear monitors and she can't, like, it's so stupid. I couldn't believe how big it got that Sabrina actually responded after this big moment in her career. She said, my apologies. I didn't see this person with my eyes and couldn't hear clearly. My reaction was pure confusion, sarcasm, and not ill-intended. Could have handled it better. Now I know what a Zagruta is. I welcome all cheers in yoke.

from here on out. Okay. It's just funny. She's found herself in this, like, sticky situation. And she is, like, very woke. So I think she's, like, not just going to brush it off, even though I think her response is, like, perfectly appropriate. And, like, for me, for me, it's, like, a rational-headed person.

Like, this is really a nothing burger. I don't think she meant to be insensitive. But it's funny how when she thought the person was yodeling, she was, like, fine to make fun of their culture. But then they're telling her. That it's North African. Yeah, like she said, is that yoleting? I don't like it.

It's weird. And like, but then now that it's like Middle Eastern North African, like, I'm sorry. Yeah, but no, if it's a yodel, you can make fun of it. It's just funny, like the woke wires being crossed. Because I don't think she would ever want to offend or come off as like culturally insensitive or ignorant. That's by the culturally insensitive is in this day and age, like genuinely one of the worst things you can be labeled. Like it is a career. Unless it's yodlers and rednecks.

So I think she just was hearing something and was confused. used by it and like didn't know all the layers that she was stepping into. So I think she must really regret that. But like in the moment she just heard. But yeah, it was sort of an overreaction. But I do feel like she like banters a lot in her set. So like if she's hearing something, she's like talking about it. You know, she loves that's her personality.

It's like wimpy. And I think she just like stepped into something that she didn't realize. Yeah. Yeah. It was like crazy to see people's reactions like the thing she was being called. and I guess like she had to respond. I thought it was so assidant. It was so clearly.

You think she knows what this thing is. And like it was so clearly a misunderstanding. I don't think anybody thinks like she knows what it is and like is putting down the culture. I think they would say that that's ignorant that she didn't know what it was. Okay. Yeah. I guess it is ignorant because like I know what it is. Yeah.

Totally. And it's funny. I wonder why the person who was doing it hasn't like come forward, you know? Literally. documentary. No, like usually we would hear, we would know who that person was. And I also think, you know, they could get Sabrina off the hook a little bit. Well, of course, I'm waiting for her next song to have as a Gruta like baked into the track and she's actually bringing the person. No, because she's bringing in the person who did it and she has like a cut of the song and she's lifting up, you know, North African voices,

Middle Eastern voices. That's going to be like the backtrack to her next lead single. But that's also cultural Appropriation, not good. No, I don't think it's cultural appropriation. She didn't know what it was last week and now she's making money off it this week. But she's not. That's what I'm saying. She'll be donated. Sabrina's not doing the Zagruta.

The person from Coachella is. But she's making money from the song. She's going to loop it into the track and then that person's vocals on the track and you get like a piece. Right, but she's making money from the song. Like all the proceeds will be donated to the Zagruta Foundation. Like that's the only way to do. do it. Yeah, this is just a funny one. I feel like people don't really know like. Yeah, like,

because it's so clearly like not an actual offensive. Like she didn't set out to hurt anyone. And it just became so big. I couldn't believe she responded. I did. I've been seeing, I haven't, I only know like what trickles down to me. And like for as much as I've seen her sitting on the seat that was sprinkling water. Yeah. I've seen Zagruta Gate. Yeah. Okay. Zagrita. It is everywhere, which is crazy. Yeah. And I think if she didn't respond to it, like she wouldn't be like the woke queen that she is.

Right, right. You know, she brought out Susan Sarandon. Yeah. So her wires are getting crossed as well. I think everybody's really confused. And there's also, like, you know, Coachella in its, like, at its core is controversial. Explain?

So the company that owns Coachella, I think it's called Golden Voice. Golden Voice. And, you know, it's kind of how, like, Chick-fil-A is controversial because they support the Salvation Army. Okay. Like, people, like, say you can't go to Chick-Fillay

because, like, it's homophobic, I think. Yeah, but what does I have to do with the Salvation Army? They are considered controversial because of their work with Salvation Army, which I think... What did the Salvation Army do? Why is the Salvation Army considered homophobic to people, question mark? I know there's a thing here.

I just can't remember. remember. Yeah, past policies, public statements, and controversy, some of which date back decades, and some more recent. Oh, because, oh, yeah, because Salvation Army is like a very traditional Christian organization, like married. So it's a Christian church organization that believes, you know, historically. They've had some sort of like, you know, crazy takes on the church, I mean, marriage. Gay marriage. Yeah. And Chick-fil-A. Chish-C-fil-A, like, has a, yeah, it's like a part of their brand. Doesn't everywhere support Salvation Army? The Santa's on the street in New York City or Salvation Army, yeah.

Isn't like, I guess I'll have to look now notice it. And why is Golden Voice also considered controversial? I remember Golden Voice, the company behind Coachella, they've had a few. Yeah, right, very similar. You know, like a, not a founder, but like a big, yeah, the owner is, you know, against LGBTQ plus. So for like it is a lot of actually I feel like pink won't do it But for the most part like all these artists they still do it

That's crazy I didn't know that Yes I know like I'm very up with like what the wokeys are up to Like I try to keep up so And Lady Gaga did it? Yes yeah so it is considered So you know some people consider doing the Super Bowl halftime show Not so much anymore but I feel like when it was the Pepsi show It was considered like controversial to it pink won't do it right

Why? I just think like the NFL is like drama. I'm actually not 100% sure. I think maybe it had something to do with like Colin Kaepernick. What? No. So also to say, accepting the gig is inherently, if you're going with that mentality, is inherently like not an acceptable thing to do. But everyone who attends is like.

Of course. I'm sorry. Yeah. It was like a couple of years ago and like it was just inconvenient for people to boycott Coachella so they didn't. You know? Okay. Okay. But if you're taking, like, you know,

if you're going to be legitimate and authentic to your cause, you shouldn't perform a Coachella. Yes, she was there. Yes, she was. She must not know about this. Someone should tell her. I'm telling you, everyone knows. You're just like, it's inconvenient. It's too big.

That's so crazy. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's why I didn't go. Yeah. I'm taking a stand. I'm taking a stand. And then the next day was Justin Bieber. Yes.

And now I'm about to be like woke chella Because I had a thought And then I saw people saying it It made me feel better because like I'm not like a huge Justin Bieber fan I'm saying I know the hits I know all of them And I think he's great and I love I love his wife

But if a woman did that Was like good and cute and I liked it And he looked really healthy And I was I thought it was overwhelmingly positive But just the like The paradox of him on that stage And Sabrina on that stage Who seriously probably needs to sleep for a month

versus him. Like he had his cute little computer moment and he was watching videos on YouTube and then people are using that but that was only like 20 minutes of like a long show. And I think that was the best 20 minutes not shading the other performance

but I think if you were there it was amazing to experience like watching him do the YouTube like it sounds like shit but I think it was so much fun. Yeah no and then even the parts where he was doing the regular performance where he had like some instrumentalist

on stage. Yeah it was still just so much lower effort in all aspects than Sabrina's. And I don't think that's necessarily like a dig at Justin. I think it's like what we demand from our male performers versus I saw people being like Sabrina's wardrobe really missed the mark. It's like, are you fucking serious? Like the level of expectation from the audience from our male pop stars versus our female

pop stars like the level of critique we give to the women versus men. Like it's actually insane if any of the female performers got up there. and did what he did and carved out a whole section, which I enjoyed, but like the YouTube thing where he didn't even sing like the full songs and mostly was like using YouTube as a backtrack. It's really crazy. It's really just, just compared like these two things

happening back to back Friday and Saturday. Like the difference was so palpable. It was shocking. Hmm. It didn't really bother me. I feel like it's like what, it's not the expectation. it's like what we accept from them.

And I feel like for Justin, you know, when he got booked and he is who he is, like that's what you're booking. You're booking. No, and by the way, I think it was a 10 out of 10 Justin Bieber. And there are some women who perform like that. Billy Eilish. Yes, she comes to mind. Yeah.

And I'm sure it's more thought through than like it seems when she's just like laying there and talking and singing and whatever and the lights and everything has like a meaning. Kanye performs like that too, just sort of like. On a unique stage. Yeah, and it's like what will accept for those performers because it's also what we expect given their catalog. But like Sabrina's just on another level.

And I think that Sabrina's performance was more impressive than Justin's performance. Now, Justin got paid more, right? Did they're saying like 10 million. I think Sabrina might have gotten like 8 million. That's so crazy. But also Justin has like, first of all, just Sabrina's on a tour to pop over to Indigo. to do another show is like really no sweat off her back.

He hasn't performed like that in so many years. It's a real value for his fans. So many people came to Coachella to see him because you're not going to see him perform anywhere else. It's just a different value. Yes, but I just want to say, it's not no sweat off Sabrina's back. It was an entirely new show while she's still doing her original show.

Like, but she could operate at that level. She can operate at that level. She's a Disney kid. Like, he's going through stuff. It seems like he's doing better. No, but it's just like, what like what Sabrina did was easier for Sabrina than I think what Justin did. Yeah, no, we're meeting people where they're at.

Yeah, but I think for his fans, like that's what they want from him. I mean, people sobbing, like literally sobbing during his performance. It's really crazy. I love Justin Bieber. Like, I can't, I think his music is so good. I'm not like a B-Berista, Belieber, you know. But I can appreciate, like, that the songs are amazing. and I really like I love him.

I think he has a funny personality and I think him and Haley are the best. I like him like a lot because of his wife. I can't lie. I'm not one of like I didn't have a Bieber Stan account on Twitter like back in the day. And there are a lot of people I know like who did. Yeah.

And I think yeah, I think that that it was good. It seems like it was fun. The throwback part. Yes, I think it was an objectively good performance. Yeah. And he did it. And I don't think people knew what he was going to do. And he like totally, he sounded great.

He is laughing. laughing at himself. He did the, you know, it's not clocking to them standing on business. Like he gave everyone those moments. Like it's, it's funny. And that was his Coachella performance. Now, if it wasn't good enough, then he probably won't get another one. But people- It was good enough. That's what I'm saying. Like, it was a great performance. I think everyone at Coachella was happy with him. Everyone online was happy with him. Not everyone online. I thought it was a great performance, but I think that it also speaks to the difference in expectations for male and female pop stars. Like, that's all I'm saying. And it's not Justin Bieber's fault. I think he did everything great. when he sang with you, like, I almost cried. Like, so cute.

Yeah. It was, I feel like he was like healing himself through the performance. And his vocals were on point. Like, it was all great. All I'm saying is when you just look at it side by side. It's interesting. Yeah, but also he has like a catalog of songs that don't, that speak like, that just need to be played, you know?

Yeah. Like she had, a lot of her music is like newer music for the last like two, three years that like she's selling. Yeah. You don't have to sell beauty and a beat. I was going to say he did sing a small portion of beauty and a beat, which we spoke about because Justin. The rap does reference Selena Gomez, which kind of makes it like unsingable.

But I like what he did. He just sang a small snippet. That song is so good. Was he like really on YouTube? No way. It wasn't like connected to the Wi-Fi. He wasn't doing real searches. I feel like it was a pre-recorded video and he was like working with it.

I would need to see like, did other things come up in the search board? I saw someone be like, good thing he didn't typo. Jalina. Jalina. Jalina. Yes, so that makes me think, other videos did come up, but it all looked like pre-approved.

I'm telling you it was like, it was because that would be a fucking wild thing to do, like sharing your screen at Coachella. Insane. Well, if a text comes through from. Of course, I can never. I can never.

I also liked Justin and like what he brought to the festival, like in terms of his social circle, Kylie. Wife's friends. Kendall Jenner, who was spotted making out with Jacob Allorty, which like, are you sure they haven't dated before?

Like, it's so like. And does she know Olivia? Like they also look alike. Yeah. Obviously like it's exciting. They're like the male and female version of each other. Yes.

So that's a great call. Obviously it's exciting because like young Hollywood things, but like it's so uninspired on both of their parts. Like okay. But I'm happy for her to have a little desert romance. Speaking of Kendall Jenner, you know that story? I told you about Alex are all on the date where I never finished a video,

but apparently he like asked her if she did OnlyFans. He had like no idea who she was and he was so disrespectful and they never ate. People are saying it was Devin Booker. I don't know why they say that. but like that's sort of what the internet has decided allegedly. Is that crazy? Yeah. That is crazy.

Run. Run from that sister. No, that was the other one. Ben, well, Simmons. That sister who like made that really weird video about Kendall Jenner baking her a cookie. Like she was so mean and jealous.

Disgusting. That was not Devin Booker's sister. Okay, so that's better. And then Carol G was the third. night and I did not see one video actually. I feel like. I was wondering who was the third night because I thought maybe I would be seeing it this morning but I haven't been on my phone.

So I was like, oh, I thought it was post Malone. No, I only see Coachella through the eyes of influencers. Like friends of mine don't go. Margot Shrey was there activated. Right. So I see it through Margo doing her Addison Ray Lucky Brand collab. Margo like ran a brand influencer trip. She's so crazy.

And I just want to say so like if we wanted to go to Coachella like I, we could have. We could have. Yeah. We could have been in the lucky house, like wearing our Addison shorts. I mean, that never would have happened. I could never wear those little shorts. Never. Never.

Yeah, but like our sister was there like running a brand house and there's so much drama with the brands. Okay, tell me the drama. So I saw, there were a couple of brands that took people. Like Alex Earl did her own thing with real actives. Poppy brought a couple of influencers, like big names, Jake Shane. What was Revolve doing? I don't think they do like a house anymore. They do their big festival.

Can't push, you know. Revolver around the world? What about? Revolve Fest. Reval Fest? Was there a revolfest? Yeah. Okay. There was also Camp Push, which was like a mini revolvist.

They had Ashley Simpson perform. Oh, cute. Massinger. Yeah. A couple of houses. I saw some people were there with Barbie, Danielle Carolyn, and Elandria. What are they promoting? I don't know.

I love your content. Me too. But what are we promoting? What do you want me to buy here? How can I support this house? Danielle Carolyn. I don't know. know you know what i mean i actually meant to text margot like what's the association perhaps it's just

like a brand awareness campaign i don't know consider me aware correct i'm aware consider me also confused like i'm ready to buy tell me there was a Starbucks house with a bunch of like ticoters i wasn't familiar with really any of them Starbucks which felt so random and like if you're like a young Gen Z wokey on TikTok Starbucks is a no go there has been like a boycott of Starbucks since the war in Israel because somebody like literally started a rumor that Starbucks is Zionist. I mean, it's literally not.

They refused to open stores in Israel. Like they closed down the one that they had in 2003. And like I think what they're trying to say is they're boycading Starbucks because the CEO is a Jew. And so it's considered no-go. Like if you take a video, if you're like a wokey TikToker and you have like Starbucks in your video,

like the comments will be about it, you know? Okay. Very normal. Very normal. It is considered like a hard no-go. But they brought a couple of, well know. I think they brought like 10. They had a house. And so, you know, a couple of creators stayed at the house.

All of their videos, you know, you have deliverables you have to do. And it took the internet by storm because they were like, the Zionist house. Yeah, the Zionist house. And I want to say a lot of things. Who are the creators? Okay, so the one that I know is Audrey Peters. She makes like really cute New York City TikToks about like, like designer bags. Like she's super nice. And it's like, I don't really know.

know what you guys expect from Audrey Peters. Like she's out here, like making a living. And she talks about like exclusively fashion. Like she collects really cool pieces and she has a great, you know, the Arames sales associate. She's like one of those girls. And it's like, are you okay? And she drinks coffee.

Yeah. And she drinks coffee. And like I don't think she has a personal gripe with Starbucks. And it was like, I think like it's, so I'm not going to make like a blanket statement. I think, who are we talking about? I don't think she's ever come out and made a political post. It's like she's just having fun with her bags, you know? So like leave the girl alone.

She had to get to Coachella, you know? Yeah. I think that I don't know the other ones, but like if you are, if you engage in that sort of cult, do you know what I mean? Like if you are a TikToker who makes a lot of political posts and well then yeah, like you have to walk the walk and talk the talk. Sorry, and your people are going to come for you. Like that's- You cannot go to a brand house for a company that's owned by a Jew.

You just can't. Can't. And like if that's. your content is a lot of it like making like taking stances making statements activism etc then yeah like your people are going to come for you and honestly like i stand with them like you know but like the girl who makes videos about airmas kelly's like are you serious so i feel like so then did any of the creators like say anything or like apologize or they just lay low you can't you're like in the house with starbucks and like you're being paid by them like you have a contract

you can't like disparage the brand. While inside the house. And also if you do come out against the brand that you just decided to work with, you look like an idiot. Because it's like you don't know anything about the brand that you're working with. What are you doing?

You'll just go anywhere. Let me find the list of TikTokers. Laylow. Starbucks. Laylow, Starbucks creators. Coachella House. It gets better. It gets better.

Ugh, like why they make this so hard? Coachella magazine.com. Oh, apparently the Umanskis were the Starbucks house? Oh, Jews. They should put Jews in the house. Wait, let me just go on TikTok and see who people are talking about. I saw them talking about Audrey Peters.

Starbucks, Coachella. Okay, like everyone's talking about it. They popped up first. Okay. Oh, Victoria Paris. I don't know. I'm not sure who that is. Bran.

Brand. Who's Bran? B-R-A-N. Do you know how that is? Um, yes, he's like, um, yeah, like he makes a lot of content about being an influencer. I think he also makes a lot of content about politics. And, um, yeah, I think like, that's shocking. Like, you can't do both.

That's crazy. Uh, my, it's so funny. I don't see the Umanski's anywhere. It's the people everyone's talking about, Audrey Peters. Victoria Paris is a girl who, like, travels a lot and, like, makes a lot of, like, quirky content about her travel. Like, yeah. Yeah, I'm only, yeah. seeing those, I can't believe the Emanskys were there. I didn't know that. Really funny.

What? It's just funny. Like, I just kind of like, love it. Yeah, of course. Like, it's hilarious. Like, go eat each other. I don't care. Yeah, of course. No, no. And it's like, the crazy thing about the Starbucks thing is that the entire boycott about them being Zionists is actually

based on delusional conspiracy theories. Because I, somebody who has grown up, Jewish and Zionists my whole life, everyone I know drinks Starbucks begrudgingly. Yeah. Because it's like, yes, they have a Jewish CEO. They refuse to launch stores in Israel. It's always been weird. So it's the fact that they're being boycotted for being Zionist when in fact they're

most likely an anti-Zionist organization. It's like your conspiracy theory isn't even legitimate. Like, yeah. It's insane. So now everyone's getting so bad's out of shape, literally destroying the lives of all these creators based on false theories. Like, it's insane. Go off.

No, I agree. Like, not my story. Circus, not my monkeys. Hysterical stuff. Agreed. Was Michaela Ngaro there? No, she went to Portugal. She went to Portugal.

That's my queen. She's Portuguese. Family trip to Portugal starts now. She flew coach. Oh my God, I love her. I know in all the comments where I can't believe you're flying coach and she was responding like LOLY. And it's like, well, because you've literally never flown coach in the time that you've been

famous. And like it was a family trip. So I don't think she wanted to buy like 30 first class seats. So she just had to slum in coach. She's just like us, Nikala Ngaro. I love her. Also, some more like Coachella News.

Teddy Swims. I didn't know he was performing. I might have gotten myself there. He brought out Joe Jonas and Vanessa Carlton during his Coachella set, like really giving the people what he wants, what they want. Obsessed.

Like he should headline next year. Like, thank you. He should headline next year. All in all, I feel like the performers, like they got really good people that are commercially successful that like made news in addition to, you know, their Martinez brothers and other artists.

Yeah, that's the thing about Coutella. It's actually like inherently like a rave slash like alt festival. Like when we went, Tame and Paula was one of the headliners. And then they got Lady Gaga and it was like the biggest deal ever. They usually, how it had started was like as a niche thing. And now it's like so culturally relevant that they have to, they have the big Beyonce. I feel like they have like niche performers during the day.

And then like a couple huge. commercially successful artists, especially at night for like the headliners. And like that works. And ticket sales like have gone up. I was reading like over the last few years, they were like dropping. Jackie, it's because of the scandal. I'm telling you. Like I know you don't know about it. And like last year was the first year that they didn't, that tickets didn't sell out the first day. It took like a month to sell tickets. But like this year they sold out very quickly. The resale was so high and a lot of people are crediting that to Justin Bieber. Like the fact that he was on the ticket because you can't see him. You can go see Sabrina. I also want to say it's crazy that. It's crazy that.

Taylor Swift has never done Coachella. And I don't think that she ever will. Except I could see her doing it one year and being the headliner all three nights and creating like a three night show. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. She has to do things differently because she's on a different level. I don't think she would do that.

I think it's too small for her. And I think if she did it all three nights, she would get so much hate from the usual Coachella people being like, this concert, this is our concert. You know, this isn't, should we get so much hate? I don't think it would be worth it unless they paid her so much money. I don't think they could afford her. I don't think they could afford her. I love Coachella, like, just as a consumer.

And I love seeing it through the eyes of influencers. I feel like there's a big conversation, you know. Influencers ruin Coachella. It's crazy how it's literally just a brand event. And there are two weekends. And next weekend, quite literally not one brand activates, not one influencer goes. It's just a music festival. So it's nice that they have two then.

Yes, yes. Like, whatever vibe you're going for. I love seeing the young, hot influencers putting together their outfits. Like, it makes me excited. I loved watching, you know, you know who's one of my best dress, Sister Girl Sally. She was in Alex's house. And Alex's house, like, they're just, like, such, like, music girls.

Like, they just were so cool with their combat boots. Like, they weren't going to, like, revolve fest. They just, like, hung out with each other. Listen to awesome music. Acquired style wore, like, a really cool pair of pants. Like, I had a good time watching. I saw Acquired's pants. And what were you getting from the trends, the fashion trends?

Because I feel like Coachella does sometimes, like, set trends, and we can know what to expect. Like, for a while, it was like Western was coming back. then, you know, a little bit like, like leathery, bike, mad max. I felt like this year. We're wearing, this is what everyone's wearing. What's that? Big low-rise pants and a bikini top for a shirt.

Oh, well, that's been the trend for a while. Kylie, all the girls. That's safe. I was seeing a lot of bohemian looks, like kind of OG Coachella. I know, except, you know, it's kind of dicey because I saw Sierra from Love Island. Oh, no, no. Iris from Love Island. Like, she had a couple of feathers in her hair, which I feel like is like a no-no cultural.

Literally. I wasn't talking about feathers. I was just saying, you know, flowy skirts. Of course, remember when people used to put like a fake bindi on? Like you can't do that shit anymore. I'm just talking about like bohemian vibes. Like Vanessa Hudgens. And I do feel like it's coming back a little bit. Even like watching Rachel Zoh on Beverly Hills. I'm like maybe I need a caftown. Yeah, I definitely need like a maxi. Yeah. So that was the trend I was seeing. That's beautiful. Like so let's see if if that plays out. Yeah. But I felt like it was kind of a threferral. rowback. Road had a huge, of course, like this was their moment to shine, huge activation in partnership with the Sephora. They had like a carnival. They had, you know, everyone went. I think I got to start following some new influencers because I only saw, like, only have a couple of mine went, you know? No, that's the good thing about TikTok is like it's not even the people that I follow that went. Yeah. TikTok knew I wanted to see Coachella, so they showed me all the Star Starbucks controversy. But like I feel like all of my influencers are also growing up, like less are going to Coachella. So I think I need to start following more.

Back in our day, like the influencers, it was like the Revolved girls, the fashion bloggers. We wore what? Yeah, that's why I didn't really see anything. Like those are the people I still follow. I don't follow like a lot of 23-year-old influencers unless they're like friends with Margo. So I follow them on TikTok. I got it. Okay.

Okay. That's on me. I need to educate myself. Also major, major fucking news from a Coachella. Katie Perry and Justin Trudeau. Like fucking slumming it at Coachella. For both of them, that is so humiliating. eating. First of all, Katie Perry should be up there

headlining and if she's not, what is she doing there? Justin Trudeau sitting on the stoop eating ramen out of a red solo cup. While also like his Twitter was like still active, I saw somebody like quoting his tweets being like, this is a crazy tweet from somebody who's actively at Coachella. Like as he was at Coachella, he was

at Coachella, he was also tweeting about like some, you know, Prime Minister in Lebanon. I don't remember. And it's like he's not even at Coachella like in a premium away from what we saw. Like he's in the crowd. Like, I could see. Well, that's the thing about Coachella. Even the most famous people ever tell her and Travis went one year.

I'm like, you're just, there's a little section, but you're just in the crowd. They didn't like sit on the stoop like they're drunk waiting for their Uber. That was seriously so disturbing to see. It was really crazy. It's so crazy. It is. I feel as though they're a match made in heaven and I really ship them wholeheartedly. Agreed.

But they need to mind themselves and like really think more about their image. economic summit together and you just can't do that and Coachella so choose one but like you can even do Coachella but you know like stand dignified with your hands in your pockets nodding along whatever to sit like that yeah to degrade yourself like that like that hat backwards and the red so like no no that was really crazy yeah um so that's mostly it for Coachella oh and Kylie Kylie took over Coachella she was having a ball was Tim Bieber fan was timid was timid A big Haley fan. Yeah, no, no, all of her content,

she was wearing like Justin Bieber T-shirts. Yeah, no, because she's a good friend. Beberchella, Biebercella. Was Timothy in the orbit? She was not acting like he was. No, and her house was very much giving like girls' trips, Stoss and Crow. Stoss and Stormy's room.

Yeah. Although I did see like one picture of like someone who they thought Timothy was in a bandana, but like we can't be sure. I don't think he was. She would have like done like, more like soft launch sort of stuff. And there was like, it seemed like a girl's trip.

I'm really sick of them. Like, and their unwillingness to give us anything publicly, like on Instagram. I understand. Except if it's like at an award show supporting his terrible movies. I understand that you are hurt. I am hurt. I am turk. Are you ready for our next story?

Like moving on from Coachella for the moment. So is this number two or like six? This would be number two. Yeah. Oh, yikes. Okay. But like, I'm going to just see how things shake out. You know, we're going to talk about the need to know stories.

Two things. Re, Summer House Gate West Mandevall Friday. On Friday, Summerhouse, Armanda, Batula broke her silence on the backlash to the romance with West Wilson. So she shared in a message on her IG, a picture of her dog saying, hi, guys, I'll keep this short and sweet. I've obviously been MIA, but I wanted to come back on and say that I'm truly sorry to everyone I've disappointed and heard, especially those I know personally who I've reached

out to individually. For the sake of my mental health, I'm going to try to start living life with some sense of normalcy. see me out or posting online please know that this still weighs very heavily on me i'm not ignoring what's happening or what's unfolded she added that she will be at the reunion and will be addressing any and all questions honestly and directly there so that came out on wednesday and then this weekend her in west were spotted out to dinner then the next day he was like paparazzi leaving her place like carrying his shoes like very walk of shame i guess like anytime they leave the house like we get like real-time

photos of them and what they're doing she was like they were out at a bar she was like wearing her scarf on her head, like incognito. The statement that she released was genuinely one of the weirdest things because as I was reading it, I'm like, okay, okay, okay. And then I give you the part where she's like, I'm leaving the house and just want you all to know like I'm leaving the house.

Yeah. And you're going to see me leaving the house and I don't want you to think poorly. That I'm not thinking about it, but I am thinking about it just outside, but I'm still bad girl repenting. I don't want you to think worse of me than you already do by leaving the house. And I know you all expect me to be

hold up in my house. And it's giving, like I checked the weather app. It's going to be nice. Let me let everyone know. I'm going outside, but I'm still thinking about how bad of the thing it is that I did. The way that I read it is she needs to get out of the house for her mental health, which I believe she does. You know, it's been two weeks.

If she's just rolled up at home, that's really bad. I think she's scared of leaving the house because she's scared of what people are going to say about her if they see her with friends having fun. out with West. But it is more important for her right now to, like, leave the house and have a breather than it is for her to worry about what people think. So she's just sort of staving them off, but being like, I need to leave the house. And by the way, I think she needs to leave the house.

And I understand her wanting to make this statement because if she just started like living life and, like, we'd be like, what the fuck? So she's addressed it in a weird way. There's no good way to do it because what she did wasn't good. And now she wants to leave the house. And that's fine. I actually was watching, looking at the pictures and in this moment. like I kind of feel not bad for West,

but I feel like he's sort of in a pickle. Obviously. I feel like he's not into it anymore. Like, you know, the vibes. I mean, there's nothing fun about what's going on. No, and the vibes just went so down. But he like can't like break it off or spend less time with her, even though it must be like such a buzz kill.

And he's not about that. Like he's West. Not only that. One thing we know about West is he has a real fixation on being well liked. he likes being famous. He likes being beloved. And not only is he the opposite of that, but he has found himself in this situation because of this girl.

And we know he's not one to like dive into an exclusive monogamous. That's sort of like his downfall. So he's hated. He's in a relationship, sort of not forced, but like by his own actions, like he has no other choice. No, but he can't really like spend time away from Amanda at the moment. Like she's not doing well. she's chosen him over everyone.

So it's up to him to be there for her. And I don't think he's an inherently like bad, evil person. And I do think he likes her obviously a lot, but especially as a friend and like your friend. So I don't think he's going to be like leaving her side right now. But I don't think that's who he wants to be as like, you know, in this like down or apartment where everyone's just like struggling. And as far as him being beloved and struggling with that,

he's getting paparazzi. The whole world is talking about. Russ Wilson. Like, I don't think he minds that part so much. Like, literally, like here he is, like, with his AirPods, like, walking down the street. Everywhere he goes, he's getting paparazzi. Like, I think he doesn't mind that. I don't know.

I mean, I guess we really have to see how the reunion shakes out. Like, it could surprise us. I just think this whole situation. It's not said one word. It's such a bummer for him. And he's like, he doesn't do bummer. Yeah, no, it's like, it's not the vibe. It's not the vibe.

he's not having a good time, but he can't leave because he's like a person with a conscience. And she's not doing well. You know, even the strongest people can't handle stuff like this and she's not very strong. And she's bearing the brunt of it in terms of like that. Like we all hate Wes, right? Like what he did was bad. But the fixation is mostly on Amanda for betraying her friend, girls, girl, bed bug, yada, yada. So they're both going through it.

But she's not only a more fragile person. she's going, like, it's more fixated on her. It's worse for her. I agree. So I don't. And because nobody expects much of West. Like he hasn't been a really stand-up guy, partner, friend to anyone in the time that we've known him.

And like Amanda's thing has been like this wounded bird in a bad marriage and a best friend who she loves. Girls, girl, girls, girl, girls, girl. Yeah. I think it's actually been a further fall for her. Oh, absolutely. He wants to be well-liked. I think he's just happy to be famous.

She's always been well-liked. And this whole situation has been like very on brand for West. It's been so off brand for Amanda. Like the sheer shock of it is what makes it such a big story. And that's due to her involvement in it. Yeah. Well, are you ready for our next story? If it's our next story that's brought to you by Pepsi prebiotic cola.

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has been slammed by her ex-Rogherman's new girlfriend. Actually, not so new girlfriend, as Bree Jacoby says. So Breed Jacoby is the laid love of Roger Berman, who's the ex-husband of Rachel Zoe. So, Bree shared a snippet from Real House Eyes at Beverly Hills where Rachel is complaining to Doreet about her ex-husband declaring his love for his new girlfriend on her birthday via Instagram. Rachel suggested Roger was trying to deliberately irritate her because the two women's birthdays are days apart and they're both stylists. So Brie wrote on her Instagram stories, leave me the fuck alone. What's so insane?

You did not want to be married and said it yourself. You wish you left seven years ago. You're acting like a jealous woman. get a new storyline. I'm not going anywhere, so get used to it. She said, since so many of my friends reached out, I want to set the record straight. My birthday is September 2nd. One day after her, not three. We have been dating for almost two years. I'm actually a businesswoman who happens to style, not a celebrity stylist, but you do you, you girl, respect. She then claimed that she met Rachel and Rogers two children a year after dating their dad. She then dismissively called Rachel a great actor,

but insisted she was so sick of her storyline. She said, quote, I actually don't care about anything other than the kids and my relationship. I wish her the best and to find love and happiness. I would be a modern family, but she can't do it. It's very sad, but that's her own issue. We are better than the drama, but I'm really getting tired of this portrayal of him and me. It's not true. Roger is an incredible father, might I add, and an incredible boyfriend, best human. Then she said, the issue is that she takes zero accountability for her own behavior and is absolutely awful to me, calls me trash. Bad press is good press, so keep talking. But if you're going to talk, at least be a woman and talk to me direct. Like I said, I ain't going anywhere.

See ya at the bar mitzvah. Ooh. That made me sick. Although I do want to say, like, and I love Rachel more than anything, but like she's talking a lot. And this girl does have the right to defend herself. And I feel like half of what their issue is, is like, this is everyone's perspective, right? Like, this girl just started dating a guy with kids. She doesn't, you know, know how big of a deal it is to Rachel. I do think she could probably be a lot more sensitive around the kids. Like that last sentence was beyond fucking unnecessary. But like at some point, like if, you know, this is not how the girlfriend has experienced it. And then this girl's going on TV, the more famous, wealthy, well-known, like kind of slandering your name.

Like, Rachel did invite this because she brought it to TV. And so you just have to be, you have to know that that's going to happen. Yeah. I didn't see the most recent episode. So I don't know if she like talks. I'm sure she talks more about it. but like everything I've seen to this point has really been about like Roger.

Yeah, and so her last most recent gripe was like really not that big. She comes to Dury's party like so forklempt. She's like what happened now. She's like, everyone's blowing up my phone. Roger like, wish his girlfriend a happy birthday and like hard launch on Instagram. Like, why do you care?

Because it was on Rachel's birthday, but it turns out their birthdays are one day apart. So did he post it on her birthday or the girl's birthday? I'm not sure. So that would be important to know. But still, like you hate Roger so much. Like this shouldn't. But still it doesn't sound like Rachel has

anything about the new girlfriend. Like, why is this new girlfriend? Like, you know what I mean? No, it's more so about Roger's timeline and Roger like doing like the appropriate thing in terms of introducing to the kids. Yeah. Introducing to the world.

Yeah, no, she has a real problem with Roger. Although I don't think she loves Bree either. Yeah. And I think for Rachel, who's like experience was that she was with Roger for almost 30 plus years. And then like one day he woke up as a different person and wants a new life. And that's not to spoil the book that I'm writing right now. No, it's the vibe from strangers.

But please don't stop. feeling stuff. Like, unleash hell. I don't care. Yeah. And she's not even spoken about this girl, said her name, nothing. But like, Rachel has a right to, like, process what Rogers done to her publicly because they're all public people.

Yeah. And I'm sorry. I'm just team, Rachel. Like, see you at the bar, it's felt like, go fuck yourself. How about that? That's really nasty to say. I agree. Because that's, like, using the kids to, like, drum up drama.

They're like, you didn't need to say that. Go talk about accountability, whatnot. I don't give a fuck. but like that's really nasty. I agree. No, and when you're blending a family, I just want to say like I am no better than Rachel. Like I'm sorry.

I could never. Like I think people who do it successfully are some of the most amazing mature people. But like having to ship my kid off to go be parented by this rando who calls herself stepmom. Like, oh my God, I could never. People who do it successfully

are the most amazing. mature people like I just couldn't yeah and I think when you are the step parent you have to be so gentle and you have to move so slowly and like this girl like with the bat mitza just disgusting also this girl's now saying actually we've been together for two years I didn't meet them for a year so what did he meet you the day after he left rachel or did he meet you before they split up you're not really helping your case and I will say I feel like when it comes to blended family is like it's really on the person so in this case Roger yeah to blend it always is It's not on Rachel.

And what's Bree going to do? Bree can be as nice as she possibly as she wants. But if like Rachel and Roger have a really bad relationship, then there's not going to be a blending. So like Roger, if you want the blend, then you need to like come to the table a little bit. And he seems like he just like woke up one day. He picks up and left.

And Rachel's mere presence is an inconvenience to him. Yeah, that doesn't work. So if you, if Bree wants to blend, you have to do it. Yeah. And you have to like keep Rachel happy and run big decisions. decisions by her like when you're going to introduce the kids to a girlfriend. Yeah, I don't even think Rachel's issue was that she introduced, she was introduced too quickly or it was that she was introduced without Rachel's knowledge.

And that has to be. When Rachel was out of the country, when the brother was not with his brother, like, that's not the right time to do it. No, that's fucking traumatizing for a kid. And he can't go and like be with his mom. Like, so no. Terrible. Wrong.

And you were there for that? Why didn't you say that's wrong? Right, right. So. But I'll see you at the Bar Mitzvah. Oh. I'd cancel the event. Agreed.

Like we can have a small event at home. At home. Oh, sick. Are you ready for our next story? Mm-hmm. Major sports news this weekend. We don't have to wait till the next episode of full swing to find out that Rory McElroy won the Masters.

The first to repeat since Tiger Woods. Jackie. What? Did he not? That's. But I want to. to remember at the beginning of the show. Yay.

That I watched the Masters this weekend. I watched a little Masters towards the end of the day yesterday, but I didn't know who won until this morning because I obviously don't have the right algorithm and I didn't see it until, and I was like, who won? I wish I could know who won the Masters.

It was so annoying to watch. Like, I don't know if everyone hates Rory Macquarie, but like I do. I was really rooting for, well, one, because he's just not American, like, and I was rooting for an American. Sorry, I'm toxic like that. I was rooting for Scotty Sheffler. Xenophobic, okay.

Yeah, like, no, sorry. Like it's in Georgia. I wonder what the American players to win. Like it's like the Olympics. He gives me such bad vibes. Really? And then I also saw a tweet like drama. What's the drama?

So somebody said that Rory McElroy has like not played in the last couple of tournaments and instead has gotten unlimited access to play Augusta. So it's like yeah, well maybe I would have won too if I didn't like actually do any other tournaments and then spent the last month getting unlimited play at Augusta. I guess he got unlimited play because he's the reigning champion and so you can go play Augusta whenever you want. And you're Roy Maca Roy. I'm sure Scotty Sheffler can play Augusta as much as he wants to, just want to say.

I was just looking for Scotty Sheffler to win. He was in second place. He lost by two strokes. Maybe even one. His wife, you know, turned herself inside out nine days postpartum to show up at this turn to Bent and her. Her husband didn't even win. Like, not going to lie. Like if I'm her, I'm mad. Why, he got a big bag like for coming in second place?

I think somebody else, I think you had to split it, you know, because there were other people who came. In second? I think like five people came in third. Oh, but second place get in the masters. $2.43 million. That's so good, obviously. Yeah, but like, you know, they had, like, it costs a lot to get there. I don't know. I don't find Rory, like, warm. And I love, like, sports moments when people win and their family comes and they give great interviews and they cry. He gives me none of that. He's like a robot. And when I see, last year, I remember, and then this year, too, he, like, gives his daughter a hug and it just like, I don't know,

was weird. Like she didn't seem excited like oh my god and he has like a weird sort of personal history. Yeah he had a bad moment he like him and his wife he was leaving his wife he was having a relationship with like this golf correspondent who's all over full swing. She's like the one female in golf and then he went back to his wife and daughter. Yeah I just don't like him. His daughter's very young. This is all happening and you know Tiger Woods was slated to play but he did take himself. I asked Ben I'm like did they tell him he couldn't play no he put him he took himself out. I'm sorry like You should have gotten eliminated. The fact that you had to take yourself out,

they should have taken you out. Yeah. Like they're so strict, you can't even take pictures at the Masters. There's no, what do you mean? There are no phones allowed at the Masters. There's not. I heard that this year like the Masters is sort of like

Lucy Goosey, kind of buck wild. They're very strict about a lot of things. Dress code, no phones. Yeah. A friend of mine was there. She was sending me pictures on her digital camera. Oh, very cool. So I don't have this personal gripe with Rory McElroy.

I do. During full swing, he really comes off as like the hero. Really? Yeah, he's like become like the spokesperson for like the PGA versus live saga. Yes, of course. And like, and that's why Ben doesn't like him. Yeah, because like live is cool and there's a lot of money. But like he really took like a ethical stance against them.

And he was probably one of the biggest players who didn't go to live. And he just became like the voice of the PGA. And they kind of screwed him because they wound up merging PGA and live when they had him out there like saying all this stuff. and putting up such a big defense for it. So he seems pretty scrupled in that regard, not when it comes to his wife and, you know. Yes, but Ben said that, like, he was coming for a lot of the players.

Like, it's easy to take that stand. When you are at a level, they're like, you don't need that money. The reason why so many players were going to live was because they were giving them, like, these insane offers. It was the people who went to live who got insane offers have insane money already. No, not everyone.

Not everyone. The big ones. The people who made live, live Phil Mickelson. Yeah, I love Phil Mickelson. And I just like, I get such good guys from him. Yeah, no, it wasn't really about the money for them. But it was so much money. So who else went?

Like, Dustin, I think Brooks went. Yep. And they already had a lot of money, but they were like, this is an insane amount of money. Like generational wealth. Yeah, who could turn that down? But it's not like they were struggling. I just don't like Rory McElroy.

I'm sorry, he gives off bad vibes. It's all based on vibes. Okay. It's all based on really like that thing he did to his wife. Sound off in the comments. Like, do you also get those vibes or my eye off base? I think everyone really dislikes him. No?

Maybe he, yeah, maybe everyone dislikes him, which like makes me like him. And I understand he's not like the sexiest guy in golf. Definitely not. There's a lot of people. I will say like none of the hockey players are hot except that one. Bryson. Hockey? Did I say hockey?

None of the golf players are like, he's really not. And he like, he's just not. Okay. And all of them look cute in their hats. And then they take them off and they all have receding hairlines. Except what's his name? Bryson. Brian, he's hot.

Cam Young is cute. Okay, so he was like almost coming second, third. I think he ended up in third. He looks like Thomas Wrette and I was rooting for him. Yeah. Masters are just so exciting. Now I'll watch them in a year, but I hope everyone who watched them this weekend had a great time.

I did. I did. It's fun. I like something. It's so rooted in tradition. Oh, and the funny thing is that when you get, when the master is like the prize is obviously money and this jacket. It's like the biggest deal.

And you get the jacket It's gifted to you by the previous year's winner They put it on you But I think you had to like put it on himself Yeah and it was probably already like fitted for him Or is it a fresh jacket? Also it's crazy you can only wear your jacket there The rules of like winning the Masters and August

The jacket stays in the locker room And you don't get to take it home with you And it's like if you win the Masters You get like access to play the course It's so crazy what you have to do to play there Yeah and I wouldn't recommend looking at the courses Like history on allowing Jews and I don't think it's so great. Yeah, no, it doesn't seem like the most inclusive.

You just, you kind of need to like look past it. It's like Coachella. Sorted history. Yeah. Yeah. So, congratulations to Rory. That works for me. I feel back for Justin Rose. He came close again, but no cigar. He was in first for a while yesterday. Last year was between Rory and Justin too. And, you know, he has cavaliers. He definitely has like a dark board with Rory's face on it. You know, he has cavaliers. Oh, he should have won. Yeah. And he is the same night.

I literally was expecting to see Winnie Rose's husband. They were like, and up next, Justin Rose. I'm like, oh, no way. I wonder if Whitney's here. Yeah, that's funny. Yeah. Okay, are you ready for a fifth and final story? Did Halley Stenfeld ever like announced her baby's name?

Not that I've seen. Not in a manner that's... Even though I heard it's like Harper. Not in a manner that presented itself to me. Harper Allen. And by heard, I mean, I like heard it and like TikTok. And it sounds like a text book company. Oh, yeah.

Or like Harper Allen and Associates. Yeah. Lawyer. Where'd you hear Harper? Like a TikTok comment or something. Our fifth and final story, NASA welcomes record setting Artemis 2 moon fair is back to Earth. And the way they've been like received with a hero's welcome, I'm so glad. Like I saw one of them being like driven to his house and there was like a police blockade and a parade.

Yeah. So Artemis 2 has landed. The first astronauts to travel to the moon in more than half a century are back on Earth after a record-setting mission aboard Artemis 2. They accomplished their mission. They did it with grace. Very inspiring. And you know what?

I feel like we needed this. I completely agree. As a civilization. Because it's crazy when you're up there. These are the types of people who should be famous. When you're up there, it's one earth. When we're down here, it's like, oh, use a. Grutut and she was mean and like all this stuff.

But when you're up there, we are one. And I feel like though, and it's always a message of unity. I feel like that's what the Blue Origin women were trying to do. They were trying to tell us that. You know what I mean? Like it was so beautiful. Good message, wrong messenger. Because I feel like we should all leave Earth just so that we can see that we're all one.

Yeah. And I actually heard the female, um, Caroline, the female. astronaut talking about what it felt like, what it felt like to look at Earth. What did she say? And she was, she was actually had like a like, like, chilling statement. She was like, I wasn't even looking so much at Earth. I was looking at all the blackness around it. Like how we are just, all we have is each other.

All we have is each other, you guys. And I'm obsessed with like them coming back and like being famous, getting paparazzi. Like I wish you could have seen this parade they had from his hometown. This big sprinter van, like a very Haley Bieber. It's like, yes. Let's award people who study science. and further are, you know, the human race. Like those are the people who should be famous.

Real heroes and brave because you go up there to do this work for the world. And you don't know what could happen out there. Of course. I watched them landing, you know, parachuting successfully, all three parachutes into the ocean. I got really emotional. I imagine they're like relief from their kids and their family just being like, oh, not only did my mom and dad like achieve their dreams, make world news, but they made it home safely, which doesn't happen to everyone.

Yeah. It was very, very beautiful. There's something so emotional about spacemanship, you know? And we needed that. And I hope the message isn't lost on people, you know? And I hope Katie Perry feels vindicated in some kind of way. Yeah. Or not.

You know, I don't know if she does, but I'm definitely, I'm feeling like, yeah, no, I think all regular people should go to space to see that we're one. And that's what those women tried to do and we all made fun of them. I just want to say, I don't need to go to space to know that we're one. Like, I know it. I just have to think really hard about it. So even if you can't get to space to see that we're one, really think about it. Try closing your eyes.

Imagine what it would be like to go in a spaceship and see Earth. And so your neighbor. It's people who lives in China. Like, China feels like a different planet, but it's not. We're one human race. Yeah. One human race. Carol.

Huh? Carol. The wife? I'm going to wait for you to get it. The wife. Yeah, yeah. But we're one human race. Carol.

She's a spot on the moon now. But she's so much more than that. Yeah. She is Carol. Not to like call your call, but I just don't be like it's driving the plane home. That's not shocking. And I'm sort of like immune to this sort of hate, you know? I don't know in the comments.

I'd like Claudia drive the point. You guys know. Like I don't, I feel like I don't even need to explain it. Maybe you're not as deep as me. Carol. Okay. One human race. So let's stop all this bickering.

Carol. And if you want to bicker, just don't do it with me, you know? Or do it in our comment section to drive engagement. It's true. But like, keep the fighting over there because I'm part of one human race. Yeah. What's your race? Human.

But seriously, and I feel like that's what the astronauts are trying to tell us. I know. They have come down to Earth and they're preaching, like very much this message of unity. Because it must be so overwhelming when you get up there. Like, you can't believe. And especially in our country, we're so divided. We're going to tear this beautiful planet apart.

Like, just like ripping each other's throats out. When all we have is each other in this big wide galaxy. Look around, sweetie. There's no one. No one's coming. No one's coming. Not the aliens. Not anyone.

It's frustrating. Imagine they're frustrated. The astronauts. Well, we hear you. At least the two of us. The message came through to us. Message equals received. Yeah.

Job well done. Jolly good job. Nalafi. It had to be done. Yeah. Almost hour and a half. It had to be done. Lafcella.

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It's, okay, literally 13 minutes ago, Alex Cooper posted a TikTok. Tagging Alex Earl speaking directly to Alex. We cannot wait until tomorrow. This is my fucking. Coachella, I'll play the video for everyone in case you haven't seen it. Yeah, because it's breaking news. It's just Alex talking to her phone like in her backyard, so you don't need to see it. Hey guys.

You guys know I don't usually address this kind of stuff because it feels like a waste of time. And honestly, it's embarrassing to participate in this. But I am obviously seeing the videos. I'm getting tagged. I see the DMs. I see the comments. So at this point, It just feels long overdue.

Alex Earle. Hey girl. The passive aggressive reposts and the likes and the commenting on things. I got to call you out here. You're going to need to get specific and just say what you've got to say about me. There's no NDA. No one is stopping you. Stop hiding behind other people and just.

Say it yourself. What's the beef? Because I'm really tired of waking up and seeing you using this fake drama to distract from other shit going online for you. Not interested. I know what happened. And so do you. Hello. So talk. Unless the fake narrative that you're creating happens to be way more interesting than the truth.

I have nothing to hide when it comes to you and me. So unless you actually have something to say, I'm out. This is over. Have a good Monday, everyone. Okay. So quite literally, first of all, we still know nothing. But this is chilling. She literally just, the caption is at Alex Earl.

When somebody said that to me the second we stopped recording, I got chills. Like, I need to know what happened? I just want to say that video is like masterful. Yeah. Masterful. like wow, and we don't see a move like that often, but it puts all of the onus on Alex Earle and it puts so much pressure on this story to be T

because if Alex Earl doesn't show up with something really salacious, and now it actually has to be even more drama than what we thought originally, because now she's like calling her out for being like it really wasn't anything. So if it just winds up being like a little skirmish, I don't think she could have handled this in a better way. What is she talking about, though, that Alex is using this as a distracting from what's really going on online? Oh, that was just shade.

That was shade. Because there's nothing going, like, if there's something going on, I know about it. Like, everyone loves Alex. She's the best. Her brand is amazing. She deserves a Pulitzer for how she launched with her puzzle pieces. Like, the products are great. Everybody loves the products.

She's just, like, shading her and, and throwing suspicion on her. And maybe you could say, like, you know, all the shay butter in Real Activese. I don't fucking know. Like, but I'm sorry, this is masterful. I'm scared. Like, I'm scared for Alex. Like, I'm scared for Alex. like because Alex Cooper's so serious in the video and she kind of delivers it she doesn't say

like she has no filler words she's speaking directly to camera I feel very threatened like I'm scared for Alex and you know Alex Earl right now is like hungover from Coachella and like she's seeing this I can only imagine but the thing is it's like I do stand with Alex Cooper in the sense that I need to know what happened so I actually appreciate her putting this video out because I feel like we're getting closer to the possibility Alex Earl is edging us a little bit like That's what you said, and that is what she's been doing. And it's been frustrating for us. And I imagine if you're Alex Cooper, regardless of what happened,

like she's putting Alex Cooper in a bad spot. So Alex Cooper has every right to defend herself. And her not telling everyone. And better than, like, this is better than anything she could have done. Like, really, it's really sharp. Alex Earle not telling everyone what Alex Cooper did. Just lets people's mind wander and definitely makes it worse. than what actually happened.

No, even if she had told us last week what Alex Cooper did, it would have been better. Better than now where it has to be really crazy now. Like she will have to tell us a really crazy story, which I don't think it's really crazy. I think it was really just, you know, like micro offenses and just a different way of working and just not a good fit. That's obviously not tea.

maybe a little like ego you know I'm Big Al no I'm Big Al I don't even think I don't think anything like that was ever said So what are you gonna talk about? It was vibes Things that were not said like you sound like things that were felt I'm sorry it just puts a lot of pressure on Alex Earl

Like to have a story and deliver And she doesn't really have a podcast anymore So I'm curious like what This is perfect for a GRWM Yeah This is a developing story I'm hoping to have more to share tomorrow It's like literally parking lot, three o'clock.

And it's like if Alex Earl doesn't show up. Be there or be square. She's a coward. So she like has to, like, what would you do now if you're Alex Earl? Cry. Like, I don't know. She like has to respond. Yeah.

I wonder how she. And she could still respond in a way that I'm like, oh, that's question. No, you know, this is giving dromedadden by sister. Like dueling videos where Alex Cooper makes hers. Everyone sides with Alex Cooper. Alex Earl makes hurts. Oh no, wait, we're back to team Alex Earl. Like to the point where you go back and forth and then people stop caring.

Yeah. So balls in Alex Earle's court. And unfortunately for her, she has to take a shot and she cannot miss. Miss, yeah. Otherwise, point for Lex. This is a developing story. We will keep you brief, of course, on kind of the biggest thing going on in pop culture right now. And we will see you tomorrow again.

Love you. Bye. Again, still loving you. Still bye. Always and forever.