The Toast - Woman in Media: Wednesday, August 21st, 2024

Episode Date: August 21, 2024

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Good morning, millennials, and welcome back to the toast. Happy Wednesday. Oh, I apologize to everyone who thought yesterday was Wednesday because I put it in the description. Because we said it was. No, and I know we joke about this all the time, but it was actually a lesson to me yesterday. People really do rely on us to know what day of the week it is.

And I so fucked up. Yesterday's episode, I said it was Wednesday. Sorry. Wishful thinking, okay. I fixed it immediately. Let me say something. You want to fix something in your podcast title, podcast description. They will get it updated for you on all the platforms in 36 hours. In their time. I'm so sorry. Today is Wednesday and it doesn't

feel, it feels like it should be Thursday. I'm so sorry. But you know what we did? We manifested Wednesday. Okay, queen. By you making it that title oh wait we brought it to us we manifested Wednesday let me just fix your crown oh thank you I'll fix yours as well that's what we do here welcome to the toast a real episode of the toast you know authentic girlies we have to let you know we are back in studio it is Wednesday morning we were always in studio we I'm back on video excuse me back on YouTube like we we lied to well we actually were so honest we literally never lied we never lied and I'm so glad that we didn't lie because we can lead with honesty we, we lied to, well, we actually were so honest. We literally never lied. We never lied. And I'm so glad that we didn't lie because we can lead with honesty. We don't have to keep our lies apart. Like what did we say? And you can share what you were doing. And now I can share

what I was doing, which was yesterday. I went into the city for the morning for the bris of Dana's son. Dana, my best friend, who's also a co-host of the Redheads gave birth. And the author of the kind of world renowned songowned song my duty brown right she does own the publishing rights to that right um she gave birth last week and then yesterday was the bris so i was so excited to see her to meet the baby to to do the snip wow it's so crazy that dana has a baby she's a child i know it is so crazy her son's name is reed which is such a gargi parji name. But like, if you know Dana, all she does is read. Well, now I'm going to ask the question for the community.

Like did Dana name her baby like after her favorite hobby? Reading? I don't think so. Cause I now, once she named her baby Reed, I remembered all the times that she said that she liked that name. Like even before we had kids, like knew someone named reed in college and like i just always remember her liking that name and i think it's just beshared that she loves to read she has a podcast called the reed heads and her baby's name is reed it's a beautiful name it was a beautiful morning she's doing so amazing she's like such a queen taking to it like a pro because one thing about dana like she's gonna study up and she's gonna get it right she's gonna read she's gonna read and she's gonna like just know what to do and so she's been doing amazing and i was so happy to see her and she looks great celebrate this simca she looked amazing

like a birth story on the redheads because the craziest thing happened during her birth that i will not spoil obviously you guys are gonna like i seriously was cracking up yes so the redheads will be back in october and we will get a full update from Dana. I do think everyone needs to and will want to hear her birth story because yeah. It's kind of a cautionary tale to men and women everywhere. Yeah, it is. I'll leave it at that. And you know, the name on everybody's lips these days is kind of Reed.

Are you following the TikTok drama? Like kind of? Yes. The guy's name is Reed. I'm following it as much as people will dns me videos one oh my god yeah that's so true we're like in a group chat where we like discuss our favorite drama and i'm just like dns me and then also i'm briefed on it from when it happened so right so this is like an old story if you're following the tiktok like hayley reed and sophia la courte and the

reason why you're probably like jaggy, you care about the Reed drama. I care about Sophia LaCourte. So when my girl is involved- Under scrutiny. Is in something, yeah, I know what's going on. If you're following the drama on TikTok about like the girl who went on a date with the other girl's boyfriend, it's actually an old story,

but it's only recently coming up because Sophia for the first time is like speaking on it. And let me just say this because a lot of people want to know where I stand. I know both of the girls personally. I would say I know Sophia better, but I've met Halle she's come to Spritz events like super supportive very nice like I actually don't have a bad thing to say about either of them I am not going to take a side like I'm really not oh really I actually think if you talk to

both girls like their version of events is how they experience it it's their truth and I don't think anyone's lying and I don't think that anyone in their minds did anything wrong right I think like two people can go through the same experience and come out of it with completely different. Right. When you like dial up one piece of the drama and dial down something else, you can tell two completely different stories. Like even the degree to which they were friends, like we were, we've seen each other so many

times, like we would go to events. And then also there's the other side of the coin where it's like, yeah, we both go to the same work stuff, but like, we're not super hosts. Like you could really explain it either way I don't know Hallie Kate but I do like like her from I have no issues with she's the girl who got punched in the face right I have no issues with I saw like a while ago she bought a house and I just think that's it's like a responsible thing to do as a young influencer like I think she's like she's always going viral and her most recent one was like people were freaking out she shared that she bought a house in the Hamptons.

People freaked out, obviously like so jealous. And then we're like, it's not even in the Hamptons. It's in Hampton Bays. You buy a house in Hampton Bays, bitch. You buy a house period.

It's like such a huge accomplishment thing to do. And like, for like a 25 year old girl. Right. So I have, I, I don't know her. I've never met her,

but like, I like her. She's not like an influencer who like, you hate. That's like what you're trying to say. You know what I mean? There are influencers we hate, of course. And also, but just like whose content doesn't resonate with you. I don't feel that way about her.

But like, you know, I love SLC and like I have to ride with her. No, and I do want to say this because like people are, this saga is so big. It's like, you know, all the brands are now getting involved. And at the end of the day. The brands? You know what I mean? Like, do you know something's really good when like every, I just saw like demure and mindful.

If you search in your email, like every brand you subscribe to their subject is feeling demure and mindful. Like it becomes TikTok drama gets to a point where it becomes brand fodder. And that's how, you know, you've reached a certain level. And I just, I think it's important to remember, like, these are two really young girls and like everyone is dragging Sophia. There's now like a viral sound being like, I hate that fucking ginger. Like, and it's just at the end of the day like we just need to remember bigots today we just need to remember

before we all get involved because it's fun drama like these are like two like human beings and they're young girls and like just proceed with caution it's like you know this isn't the same as like the it ends with us drama these are just regular girls yeah they're influencers but they're just regular people like just make you know make good decisions when you're getting involved in the discourse I haven't seen anything because again people won't d and s it to me but just from where I stand like I I do think this is the sort of drama that's like harmless and probably in a way good for both of them yeah and I hope that at the end of the day they can form an alliance no and also at the end of the day like Halle got back together with that guy Reed so it So it's like, we kind of just came full circle, you know?

Yeah. And like I said, everything comes in twos, like Reed Webman, Hallie's boyfriend, Reed. Okay. And then I actually remembered when the drama first went down, like we were all just discussing it internally and Jackie had said something. Oh God, what did I say? No, no. It was actually like a really brilliant analysis.

And I don't know why, like it actually stuck with me, like verbatim. I have no idea what I said. What you had said was like, it sounds like Sophia LaCourte is just taking an aggressive approach to dating. That's what you had said, like to finding a husband. And it's like, yeah, you can explain either side of the drama and be right. Do you know what I mean? Yes, I did. Although I don't think everybody agrees with us. The internet is universally like unanimously, excuse me, on Hallie Kate's side. And I'm not on anyone's side. I just like, I always feel like defensive of the person who's like getting dragged, especially we know her. Like she's really nice. Yeah, that's classic us to like take the unpopular side to like, I know Sophia LaCourte pretty well. I feel like I always feel like defensive of the person who's like getting dragged especially we know her like yeah that's classic us to like take the unpopular side too like I know Sophia

LaCour pretty well I feel like I can speak to her character like she was one of the sweetest bubbliest happiest nicest people I've ever met like not some Jezebel that she's made out to be and I do think that like I don't know the backstory of what happened but yes I think she's taking an aggressive approach to finding a partner yeah no and I just want to say like I I think she's taking an aggressive approach to finding a partner. Yeah. No. And I just want to say like I think they're both like nice girls. And I don't think either one of them is being like evil or malicious in their actions. Like I do think this is just two people experiencing the same event completely differently. Yeah. And that really happens.

You see it happen all the time on like reality TV. Yeah. Like you're talking to someone. You're like are we talking about the same thing? And you're actually not. But you are. Correct. So just the name on everybody's lips.

Reed. Exactly. Exactly. about the same thing and you're actually not but you are correct so just the name on everybody's lips read exactly so mazel tov to dana that was really fun it was also fun to like do a little nighttime toast switch it up you know like i i love recording at night me too yeah it was really fun why are you acting like defensive like i'm just like saying it like with determination. Like it was really fun. She's so determined. I had so much fun. Don't I sound like I had fun? Yeah. No, I really, it was like a fun treat.

Switch it up. Yesterday was like a different sort of day. And now we're back in the studio Wednesday. Jackie, something so major happened to us a couple of days ago. And because it happened, I think on like a Friday afternoon, we never discussed it on the toast. Amy Schumer. Amy Schumer. Yeah. Well, speaking of Dana Dana like this is kind of like a major week in Dana's life okay so we found out like on Friday afternoon we found out with all of you with all of you anything that you don't know that Amy Schumer

is a toaster like she literally posted a screenshot of our episode and it was the episode titled um a referendum on Justin Baldoni and she very conveniently like cropped that part out of the screenshot because you know she's obviously a celebrity like media literate and doesn't want problems she and she you can see that becoming the story when the story is that amy schumer literally wrote oh my god i love this podcast and i love she's like i gassed when they did this whole segment on i feel pretty a couple of maybe like two weeks ago we talked about how i feel pretty is like seriously the what the barbie movie like was to some people that i feel pretty was to us and she screenshotted and was like I love this podcast and I can't believe they spoke about it. And we were freaking out. And

then I went to go repost it from the toast Instagram. And I saw that she had sent us a message and she was like, I listened to the podcast and I couldn't believe when you said this about, I feel pretty. Cause I think that's like how she feels about the movie. And then we went on a rant about how she should have played Barbie. She didn't say anything about that in the message, but I think she like probably was silently agreeing with us. And she was like, thank you so much. And she told us she has another movie coming out. I don't know when it is.

And it's like very similar vibe to I Feel Pretty. And I'm so excited. I'm so excited. That is what I need in terms of like my movie going experience. And Amy, like if you are listening now, hi, we love you so much. And I need to tell you about Dana. Because Amy, you know who Dana is. She's your number one fan.

She sits front row at all of your comedy shows at the comedy cellar she goes four feet tall she goes to the comedy cellar all the time like in hopes that you're working on the new material you even one time passed her the microphone to finish a joke because you knew that she knew it because she's seen your set so many times you were one time at a bar just like enjoying your life in Brooklyn and you turn around and Dana was there because somebody texted her and said hey Amy Schumer's at this bar in Brooklyn and Dana got on the subway to go say hi to you and so you've probably been drawing up the paperwork for a restraining order but I can let you know like put your pencils down like she's a wonderful girl down she loves you so much she's

literally you are the only like pop culture touch point other than the toast that she engages with she is your number one fan if you have zero friends like friends zero friends zero fans like rest in peace to Dana so I just wanted to assuage you of that like she's not a crazy stalker she's just a great gal who loves you so much dana gave birth um and i didn't know if she was going to answer but i sent in a chat with jackie and dana the screenshots of our messages with amy and then her instagram story all caps like literally she's probably still legs open on the table all caps are you fucking for? I am actually convulsing. I'm seriously not okay. What did you respond? I think I'm going to faint. Ha ha ha. She probably was seriously

convulsing. Those are called contractions. Amy Schumer is a toaster. All caps. Then my soul will actually leave my body if you tell her about me. So this is, hopefully she makes it to this episode, though it does seem like she's listening on a delay. Yeah no we'll hear from Amy in a couple of weeks. That's classic toaster behavior. You have a lot of catching up to do. No now that I know like Amy's listening like I'm on my best behavior. Yeah but she loved us before like when we weren't trying to serve her. When we were and by the way like not me putting on so much makeup and like doing my hair today because I know Amy's listening. Oh you did use a flat iron today. I did. I flat ironed my hair. I feel like this is maybe another like cornerstone of girlhood where like every six months you

remember about your flat iron and like you go straight. Something about having straight hair like makes me feel thin. Something about having straight hair makes me look polished. And I've just been and I switched up the lighting today. Like I've been watching our episodes and like I look so ugly. And I know I said this summer I wasn't going to put heat on my hair. And let me tell you how restorative it's been for my actual hair. My hair is really in a good place.

So I feel like, okay, done. But according to the temperature, summer's ending. So we're back to heat. I'm just sick of looking ugly. That's why I flat ironed my hair today. And I'm like wearing a dress and shoes. Like, I know probably you guys are confused. Like, who is that gorgeous supermodel?

We're used to seeing an ugly rat. It's crazy because it is still swirly summer, but the temperature, it's now fall here. If you're in like the tri-state area, something happened yesterday. Like the shift by tinks. Every now you're in like the tri-state area, something happened yesterday. Like the shift. Low 60s. By tinks.

Every now and then, like the weather will give you like a little bit of a hint that the seasons are changing. And sometimes like in the spring, there's like a really hot day and you're like, oh my God, summer's coming. And then it's all exciting. Summer. Summer.

Now it's like kind of the first inclination of fall. I love fall. I do. But it does mean like we'll no longer live together. It does. It does. But to have a little bit of fall, like for the next two weeks while we're together, kind of gargi pargi.

Yeah. On the bright side. I don't have like the wardrobe, but it's gargi pargi for sure. I don't have the wardrobe. And that's, I'm going to be cold. So yeah, Amy Schumer's a toaster. Thank you to everyone who sent me the story. Like within the first 10 seconds of it being up, one of the greatest moments, you know,

thus far. I had a migraine that day. So I was like on the struggle bus. I didn't get to appreciate it until like 12 hours later. Well, I'm glad that we have a moment now to talk about it because it was kind of huge. It'll go in toaster history. It is definitely a part of toaster history. That's for damn sure. We have an amazing show today. We have really good stories and we also have dear toasters. The girlies are in need of some help. So, you know, every Wednesday we do our weekly advice segment. Today is Wednesday. I'm surprised

we didn't do it yesterday. And we're going to do that in addition to just, you know, ripping it, ripping it. We have good stories. You know what? All of our stories today are about women. One thing about us, we are all of our stories today are about woman, about woman, just one. That's really exciting. You love to see women out there shaking that thing. So I guess Brendan Sklenar's statement didn't make the news. I know you're over it. One, I'm over it. Two, the statement was stating, but he didn't take a side.

He didn't put, he didn't say. He didn't. He spoke beautifully about the subject of DV, but he didn't say like, Blake, I'm team Blake, I'm team Justin. So like, I'm not interested. I will say. Well, no, I was interested in saving because like I said he spoke beautifully but like it's not part of the it ends without a skate no and it didn't make me think like oh he really does hate Justin Baldoni or he does really hate right because he's kind of been in the middle of this it was kind of giving

like hey look at me like yeah where's my Instagram I think amidst all this drama like he was kind of getting dragged into the group of people who like don't care about domestic violence. And I think he wanted to go on record and say, like, that's not true. You know, that was the vibe I got from the statement. OK, I'm going to trust that that was the play because you are more involved than I am. I am. But just like from where I stand, I never was concerned that Brendan Sklenart didn't care about DV. Wait, of course not. From where I stand. Yeah, and where do you stand?

No, from where I sit, my perch of like a little zoomed out, but like I'm pretty in it. Quickly, just like going back 10 seconds when we were talking about fall, low key and very classic kind of way, football starts. I think like this week. I think it's already started according to Victoria Fuller's Instagram.

Yeah, preseason. Like that to me is not like worth getting everyone together on the couch on a Sunday. Okay. But. I'm sorry. We're not watching football in August. No, it is kind of crazy.

The vibes like don't match. No, like September 1st, call me. September? September on the TV. Oh, and the US Open starts. Like there's a lot to look forward to. Even though swirly summer does seem to be coming to a close. Yeah, but we have an abundance.

We do. Which is about transitioning, you know? Yeah. and getting through that period of transition yeah and living in the context of all in which is to come so your official statement is that you are transitioning i am transitioning i mean look at your outfit i know i transitioned with ease into fall no i'm very much like holding on for dear life with my little dress you know yeah i don't know about your hair transition it's so true is it the first step out of swirly Transitioned with ease into fall. No, I'm very much like a holding on for dear life with my little dress, you know? Yeah. I don't know about your hair transition. It's so true. Is it the first step out of swirly summer?

One small step for swirly? I also have my arms out, you know? Just kind of crazy things Claudia's doing. Yeah. Crazy things Claudia's doing. Why are you laughing like that? No, I'm just laughing. Why?

Crazy things Claudia thinks she's doing. Oh, I thought you were laughing because I'm like calling myself Claudia felt so weird oh that's literally not my name because you don't because you've transitioned to turdy yeah yeah turdy Lou I just felt I said Claudia and I was like like even saying it now like who the fuck is that turdy who it is weird to talk about oneself regardless of if you have a popping nickname like I'm not gonna say but I do have a popping I'm gonna say like Jackie says this that's weird it is you got to take like the sting out jacks you got to take the sting out of the third person and anyone who doesn't like we judge you

i don't want to rush you because like you obviously can't be rushed and i can't be tamed i just i can't be shamed and i can't be blamed for the weight game. That's for damn sure. I just do want to make a note. We have amazing stories and amazing. So I just want us to be mindful of the clock. We will get to it. And I guess anything that needs to be said can be said at any point.

Okay, Kamala. I really like talking like that. Me too. Like people are like, I can't listen to her talk. Really? I can. I can't stop. I think it's literally beautiful and poet. Like I seriously,

I love it. No. And also like comedic, like I'm chuckling. This is a comedy podcast. Like, and you have to use your hands and you have to go slow to talk about the things in which to come. And I think,

and it's actually a very serious matter. Like we talk total opposites, right? We're so fast like that. And I think like we could actually really learn from her like Dick. She was, and she could learn from us. Yeah. She's made it very far. Oh wait. One other thing, sorry, is the last two episodes of love is mine. UK came out. We have not watched them yet. So please don't spoil anything for us. We're going to watch them tonight. Right? Of course. Yeah. Of course. I'm still like waiting, you know, for love is mine UK to take off. I thought like everyone was going to be watching it. It's really good. People will learn and whenever they do go back and listen to our recap because like we're loving it so much. We're

just having a Love is Blind renaissance and it's like making me remember that it is the greatest show on television. I want someone close to me to go on the show. I don't think you do because I actually think the experience for the contestants is like borderline traumatizing and I think like you would end up hating it if the person like you really cared about went through whatever it is that they went through oh and some people come out of it on the other side like knowing that they had to go through this horrible thing and they're grateful because they got the followers whatever quit their job but like I don't know I think if someone you really cared about went on it like I don't think you would like it traumatizing I think so what part like being locked up in that facility yeah

but like you're going in I don't know I guess I'll have to wait till one of someone close to me does it that's why I want someone yeah to do it not like too close yeah right like I have a lot of friends like single girlfriends do you I've got a lot of girlfriends I feel like Ramona Singer no you have like 60 I have 60 close girl not no whatever Ramona say she had 100 yeah I don't have 100 close girlfriends but like I have like if I ever like who run the world girls like I've got a lot of great gals close to me who run the world girls girlies swirlies who run the world woman woman are you ready for the past five stories that you need to know no that was like a weird way for you to say that it's without further you didn't want to do like your whole shtick like you're over it no no I'm just

transitioning oh right it's kind of like your whole shtick? Like you're over it? No, no, I'm just transitioning. Oh, right. It's kind of like the season of transitioning. Yeah. Okay, so you're going to do it or not? Okay, now without further ado, here are the Fast Five Stories that you need to know. And the Fast Five Stories that you need to know are brought to you by TaskRabbit,

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about episode that was recorded the night before that we weren't getting updates on the story until she filed because it's so wishy-washy and one day she's with the step kids one day she's hating the ring he's without his ring like it's hard to keep up we'll deal with it if they file she heard that and she said oh that's why they're not talking about it she filed she has done what seemed inevitable she's filed for divorce from ben affleck tmc has learned but there are major twists including the symbolism of when she finally decided to do it jlo filed legal docs tuesday in la county superior court but they were not filed by a lawyer. She filed pro per, meaning by herself and without an attorney. She lists the date of

separation as April 26, 2024. The couple got married in Vegas on July 16, 2022. However, August 20th is the anniversary of their traditional wedding ceremony that they had in Georgia. So in the docs, JLo does not say whether there's a prenups and sources with knowledge tell TMZ there is indeed no prenuptial agreement. Yeah, that's like being reported as fact that they don't have a prenup. But that would mean that whatever earnings or profit they made during their nearly two years of marriage is community property, not everything that came before. Right. And let's keep in mind, JLo's kind of been existing in a flop era for two years. I feel like she doesn't have a lot of earnings.

I think because of the documentary, she's probably in the red for the last two years. Right. She paid to have that movie made because nobody would make it. Maybe that's why she canceled the tour so she wouldn't earn money if she knew that she was going to be filing. That's actually an amazing call. Yeah. That's like a kind of a crazy thing to do.

But and I feel like while it sounded crazy that they don't have a prenup, like people in Hollywood, especially these two who are like, oh, gee, they've been in Hollywood for a long time. When you get married, even if you don't have a prenup, people in Hollywood especially these two who are like oh gee they've been in Hollywood for a long time when you get married even if you don't have a prenup like you just walk away with what you came in with like they each have their own entities I'm not worried that like you know half of his movie star success and her like I'm I don't think that um no but that's crazy because now that they were married for two years it's like okay how much could they possibly have made in two years probably not not that much and it would probably be relatively equal

if they had to split it, whatever. But like when they got married, they would have hoped to be married for a long time. And they're older and mature and they have a lot of wealth like to get married without a prenup. And they've been married so many times. Like that's unexpected.

I would have thought for sure they had the boilerplate. Yeah, Hollywood. Hollywood prenup, like, you know, get away from me. Yeah. Who do you think has more money? Ben Affleck. had the boilerplate. Yeah, Hollywood. Hollywood prenup, like, you know, get away from me. Yeah. Who do you think has more money? Ben Affleck. I only want to say him because I feel like he doesn't spend a lot of money.

Oh my God, it's so true. He certainly doesn't spend it on clothing. Like, I feel like she makes, probably has earned more, but. She lives like the fast life. She lives the high life. She has some of the nicest bags. Yeah, she was just spotted in New York, like like day of filing with her big ass birkin now if we were to look at this like close up obviously this is not surprising for the last couple of months it's been will they won't they get divorced but if you were to zoom out no no this is shocking like i don't this is

so crazy i don't want the run-up to this divorce and the fatigue that they've left us with to take away from the fact that this is fucking insane just as insane as it was that they got back together and got married after he left her at the altar and went with jen and had a whole life with her and the fact that j-lo took him back after all of that like that was so crazy this is crazier to then after only two years not be able to stand this person enough like you then you didn't have to get married you could have just been like dating for two years j-lo's a hopeless romantic we know that the seven husbands of jennifer lopez like i i love that for her and christina hall they have really similar energy honestly lunch a thousand percent it's extremely shocking now i think people thought when they got back together like this is

how the story ends right like he left her he had a nice life and that was a nice marriage now jen jaylo is the one and it's always been her. Now I see people on social media being like, well, of course, like Jennifer Garner, like this is, I think Jennifer Garner fucking hates Ben Affleck with every fiber of her being. And I think she was probably really happy that he got remarried. Like not my problem anymore. Seriously. He's yours now. You can have him. I do think she dates someone who's very private, like a businessman, a business person. Like I don't think her dating life is, is public anymore and also I think now maybe her and Jen can be like actual friends in their hatred of Ben yeah but like Jennifer Garner still shares kids with Ben Affleck so

she'll always have to like remain someone and she's been such a queen like she appears to she's always dropping the kids off with JLo she appears to be like yeah they're like grown-ish now yes yes they're on their way out of the house. Yeah. But you still always want to maintain, like, you're not going to be over here with like Ben and JLo could literally never talk again. They really don't have anything left. Jennifer Garner and Ben Affleck, they will be at their kids' weddings together. Like they're people you always want to be on good terms. So like her running and Jennifer Garner's not like that. She's a mature queen. Like I do think she's probably giggling and it's like, seriously, I'm think she's probably giggling and it's like seriously

I'm sure she's was relieved when he got married and now it's like great maybe he's gonna be back in my life but I don't think that these two I don't think you should date either of these women I don't think you should date anyone this is so crazy and like I do feel like they should have stayed together just to like prove people wrong because like they look like clowns they look clowny as hell I do want to know because for me like this relationship always comes back to Liam Remini I want to know where she stands and if her relationship with JLo because the fallout of their friendship was directly correlated with the engagement and wedding of her and Ben Affleck so I think Ben came between them and now that they're no longer

together I would love to know if she's going to get back because that was some of my favorite content like them being besties going on like daytime talk shows together making social media content together like throwing all these lavish parties and like you know Leah Remini being like the classic like less famous friend like it was just everything it was everything yeah a little more details on the financials because TMZ is rounding up everything that they've done since they were together thank you so much thank you so ben starred in air oh that was good and hypnotic and produced the instigators he also just wrapped filming the accountant too a few days ago so who knows if that like checked cash and then during their marriage she did shotgun wedding the movie that was like army hammer right oh yeah yeah yeah

and it was josh jumel yeah the mother and then this is me now and and atlas was big by the way it was like a big global netflix show the movie okay great and then according to the doc she waives spousal support and is asking the judge to deny ben such support as well yeah i mean what are they gonna be writing each other checks yeah also there's no kids so no custody issues and then the big final twist you would think everything had been hashed out money-wise before she filed. But TMZ sources say that's not the case. TMZ broke the stories. They put their marital home in Beverly Hills up for sale. Ben bought his own house in Brentwood, and she's currently looking for a new house as well. As TMZ reported, they've been trying to hash out a settlement for months, and sources say those

talks are continuing. But they have become increasingly acrimonious to the point at times they're not even speaking to each other. The only thing is the house. Yeah. So also what's confusing is why did she decide to file like now when they're still battling over money? And maybe that's why they haven't filed up until this point so that once they do file, ideally it would be clean and easy, but the house is an issue. Yeah. So it sounds like J.Lo's homeless. Yeah. She's looking. That's like so crazy how you can be so rich and homeless. Yeah. I guess she doesn't have like multiple homes that we know of. No, she did have that home.

Which one? Come on. What am I thinking? I don't know. Dorit Kemsling? The house they lived in like the first couple of seasons with the big staircase was J-Lo's like OG home. Interesting.

Just a fun fact. It's not where I see her. No, there are a couple of houses in Hollywood that get passed around by celebrities. Of course comes to mind, Chloe and Lamar's marital home also once belonged to Jessica and Nick Lachey. Yes. A lot of celebrities have lived in that house. I think somebody lives there now.

I just saw Kim's home where Chris Humphrey proposed to her. Kim's home. Oh, that was such a cute house. Very Mediterranean. Is on the market now for $5 million. Let me tell you it's an amazing house yeah she that was also like that's my favorite era of kardashians not chris humphries but when they were like i love chris humphries when they were so glam they like wore

blazers and skinny jeans and like big pumps and they were like on the cusp of being really famous but they were so kind of thirsty and they were still such a family like they used to beat each other up like oh that was the best yeah those were the days take me back yeah I actually have some iconic Hollywood home real estate news but it's not a second story okay just share it it's about Tori Spelling's house that we were talking about last gives a fuck we do okay literally house we the one candy spelling the manor yeah oh 125 rooms candy Spelling's house that's not Tori Spelling's house that she grew up in yeah what about it so she is talking about it on the podcast and also that's weird because i'll just do this story next why not was it a story yes i thought you just said it wasn't a story it was a story but it was meant to be fifth it was like got it got story energy but

because we're talking about iconic hollywood homes yeah she talked about growing up in the manor which is now selling for 137 million dollars damn so she went on her podcast talking to her misspelling listeners which i think the timing is really weird because we were just talking about this house yeah and asking about like what it was like and so she's responding yeah um she's talking about the 56 000 square foot home in la that she lived in with her dad mom and brother the family of three moved in when she was 17. Five years after they purchased the house, which they purchased from Bing Crosby, they then raised the home and built the manor, which was 125 rooms, including a bowling alley, a beauty salon, a gym, an arcade, a bar, a pool table, and a doll museum. It's literally queen of Versailles.

It literally is. Look at it. That's insane. Like to be honest, and you know how much like I'm a person, I don't value minimalism. Like I want more is more. I want more bags, more shoes, more homes, more jets, more boats. Like to be honest, that house is too big. It's too big. You get to a point of a really big house where it becomes spooky. Mausoleum. Because I guess when there's like so much space, it's like, if you can't know what's

going on. You can't inhabit every room like comfortably. So certain rooms aren't touched and they get dusty and they can become haunted. Yeah. They do become haunted. Or you could have like someone seriously living in one of them and you wouldn't even know. Oh my God. You could have like a small nation living in this house and it would be a wing that

you don't frequent a lot. And like, seriously, they could hear you coming from like six miles away, hide. Yeah. Clean out their stuff and you would never know yeah the the prospect of squatters is reason enough to not live in this home like seriously if somebody offered it to me for free i would say no no and to live there as a family of four four she's a sibling she's a brother randy even just from the outside like it looks so haunted right but even if you had 10 kids like even ballerina farm doesn't need this house yeah no even if you had 10 kids, like even Ballerina Farm doesn't need this house.

Yeah. No. Even if you had the 19 kids and counting. And let me tell you, those kids, they needed this house because they were living seriously in squalor. Even they couldn't properly live in this house. Actually, maybe they could. Maybe they could. But like, I guess maybe the Spellings had a lot of guests. Like, how do you fill out? How do you make a house like this a home? Well, OK, so I'm reading American Duchess, that book you recommended about Consuelo Vanderbilt. And I'm tell you I'm not loving it okay like it's trying it's trying to be Marjorie Post but at that time before Marjorie Post at that time right like what is it the early 1900s that's how the wealthy lived they had like these insane houses that had ballrooms in them yes and they would have balls though yeah no and they would like entertain

people pretty much every weekend like 10 20 people coming with their families for the weekend with their valets with their maids yes and so that is like how the that's why you look at buckingham palace you're like why the hell does this house exist with hundreds of rooms because there was a time where like every room was filled and like that's how people used to live houses like this in contemporary living like aren't necessary i guess but they probably do have a lot of staff in the house. But, like, seriously, for four people, like. It's insane.

You can't have, like, what's the maximum amount of people? And I know he had a lot of money, but he didn't have endless money. So I would have rather lived with my family of four in a $50 million home and bought a jet. Like. Yeah, but I guess he was, was like kind of a home body well you know what that i understand he doesn't like he's got everything he needs in his house that i understand what did she say about it so she said growing up um she has good memories there but my best memories were created with my parents at the other house on the same street plus she was like

17 at that time she claimed that the house was not her father's jam since he preferred a small and cozy residence. Oh, so he wasn't. While Candy was the one who loved to decorate. Queen. I guess she needed endless rooms to decorate. It's not to be like so ignorant. Is Candy spelling alive? We just did this.

I think she is. And she, oh yeah, she is because she's like trying to help Tori. She should be on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Yeah, she should. Because she reminds me a lot of Kathy Hilton. I don't know why. I just like, maybe it's because they're like rich women whose names start with K.

Yeah, that makes sense. And they have like very famous. That's not a leap. They have very famous offspring. But I think she would be amazing. I can't imagine that they haven't tried to get her on. Yeah. I feel like she would be friends with Kyle Richards like anyway.

She's 78. How old is Kathy Hilton? Probably in her 60s oh okay i guess like that is a little old yeah it's just like does she have the energy like to keep up with these women like they're doing splits in mexico they're doing splits in mexico candy spelling is not doing a split in mexico kathy hilton is 65 oh okay wow good for her yeah yeah and it's also about like like and lisa vanderpump is 63 so yeah there was a time where she was the oldest housewife like while she was actively on the show um and that was like late 50s she's always been like the oldest one as far as i know

except i feel like maybe like leah black i feel like some of those miami housewives look so good but they are older yeah but it's also about energy at a certain point because you don't even realize Ramona yeah how old is Ramona Ramona and Lisa Vanderpump are I think of the same age yeah it's about energy it's so like Ramona no is ageless seriously by Ramona 67 that's insane she's older than Kathy Hilton let me say like the oldest housewife they could never make me hate Ramona's anger even when she was like so disrespectful at Shabbat dinner like Like, I don't care. If Candy is like a 78, like a Ramona 78. Right, what's her energy?

If she's got Ramona energy, she'd be great. You are how you feel. You're only as old as you feel. It's so true. Which is why I'm 39, apparently. You are. And I'm like 22. Yeah.

What am I, 31? Yeah. You're about to turn. I'm 31 right now don't don't age me about to turn i'm like i don't know it's fall it's fall so like yeah so you're transitioning to 32 i am start chopping oh you know what i should because i'm so like i'm like i'm so bad with and i got you such a good birthday gift that I'm going to seriously steal when you're sleeping. You got me such a good birthday. Yeah, no, I have to do really good.

Fuck. Okay. Yeah. You know, I'm on it. But what's annoying is that for your birthday, I always get you summer gifts because your birthday's in the summer and that's like what's seasonal. And then my birthday, I always get like winter things, which I love, but like I have so many winter things. Like, no, no like I have so many great winter things. Like, no, no, no, not about living in Florida.

It's like you don't have great winter things because I only buy you summer gifts. Like I will get you something like Florida. I guess now that I live in Florida, you would get me something. But I just I just want to say like complain all you want. Like I had a summer birthday growing up as a kid. Like nobody had a worse experience than me. I'm not saying mine's better or worse. I'm just saying I have an abundance of gifts in this season and you have an abundance of gifts

in that season nobody had it worse than me and olivia's kids sorry yeah sure sorry and now how do you feel can you get over it no i still don't love having a summer birthday really yeah even when it's swirly summer well when it's what you have wanted from your birthday this summer like we're all together in a house. No, this summer was perfect. But usually when we're living our regular lives and like I'm trying to plan something for my birthday and it's like some people are traveling, people in the Hamptons, people in the city, like it sucks. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Especially because you tell them you're not doing anything. So everyone like makes plans even up until the week before. She's like, I'm not doing anything. Go, go, go. Okay. No one's going to give me credit for this year saying I'm not doing anything for my birthday and I did nothing. Yeah.

We did have Penne a la Vodka at home. Right. Like I I said I was gonna be low-key and I was we went to surf lodge okay we went to surf lodge it was not for my birthday it kind of was no it wasn't I made us go because I was like honey it's your birthday we're out east like we're going to surf lodge no and like everyone was in town but like it wasn't for my birthday I wouldn't have insisted if you hadn't been celebrating well that's on you It wasn't for my birthday Okay yet we haven't gone one other time As a family Let's go

It depends who the musical guest is I'd like to see some good music You know People forget it's a concert venue Are you ready for our next story I am Podcasting news Women in podcasting alex cooper oh i guess our stories so far were three for three about women yeah even though ben affleck like is a

man no no but she filed yeah yeah to give it a women empowerment flair and that all the stories about are about women are about empowering women i did not say that lightly no and i've never said that before you haven't caller. Call Her Daddy host Alex Cooper inks a multi-year deal with Sirius XM worth up to $125 million for exclusive content and more as the podcaster ends her pact with Spotify. So yes, Alex Cooper, host of Call Her Daddy had like a three-year exclusivity contract with Spotify

that came out three years ago worth $60 million. So then her contract was up and now she's going to Sirius XM. Not to make everything about me, but like I cannot believe that was three years ago worth 60 million dollars so then her contract was up and now she's going to Sirius XM not to make everything about me but like I cannot believe that was three years ago like time is flying so fast in my life personally like I feel like we were just talking about that time flies when you're having fun now I feel like there's like a trend in podcasting where like every now and then like a big company like wants to be the leader and so they spend all this money and so for a while that was Spotify they snatched her up they snatched up Joe Rogan they snatched up Denver Chamberlain

uh no they didn't snatch up smart let's armchair expert armchair and now it's like I think that was really successful for them so they don't need to like keep you know holding all these shows hostage like they are a leader in audio they are the leader in podcasting and it worked so now I think that has caused other companies to suffer and Sirius XM is one of them and I feel like we're always whenever we talk about the podcasting landscape, we talk about how SiriusXM like is kind of floppy. Like, and it's like, now it's their time. They just bought up Smartless.

They just bought up Conan. And now Call Her Daddy. Interesting. Yeah. This is like the third big one. It makes sense as they are leaders in audio. But not in podcasting. No.

And now they're going to take a big bite. And they had bought Stitcher, the podcasting app that I think a lot of people used to listen to. iTunes, Stitcher, Public Radio, iHeartRadio, CastBox. They bought it. And I think they thought that would solve all their podcast problems. Like, oh, podcast is this big thing. We're radio. Let's just buy Stitcher.

And it didn't. I think they eventually shut it down and merged it together. And so now this is like a new frontier of them wanting to get back. They really need to start competing when it comes to podcasting because they're just a company seriously built off the back of Howard Stern. And I just don't know how long that can last. It's lasted a long time. But they also have a good product in the radio sphere. Like when someone has Sirius in their car, I'm like, oh, great. Lots of channels. You have Sirius in your Hyundai that you have up here. Oh, yeah. But if we have our phone plugged in. Yeah, of course, of course,

of course. Then we listen on the phone. Sirius XM is a fabulous product for a decreasing amount of people. Yes. But I find it better than Ampham. Oh my God. It's not even a competition. And I love the highway. And it's interesting. I wonder how a podcast will be podcasting. You can listen on, you know, podcast app, et cetera. But I wonder how like they'll use radio, like, cause it would be cool to listen to podcasts on Sirius if you've got Sirius in your car. Well, so one of the girlies who has been doing her podcast at Sirius is Tinks. So Tinks has a podcast, but she also has a radio live show that then is like put on podcasting. So you can listen to it live on if you're a Sirius XM, but you don't miss out. So I think they'll probably mirror and do some of what's working

for Tinks. Like the podcast, I don't think Alex would ever sign a deal where like the regular podcast is changed because people like it. And that's why they made this deal. That would be silly. So I think she'll continue to do her weekly interview. But I think they probably,

since they're paying her a lot, like are gonna put her to work. Maybe she'll have to do a live show that will then become like a Call Her Daddy podcast, like a second episode of the week. And she had said like, this means more more content like she said like daddy game wants more and like she's got a lot of her you want more with serious i'll give you more and that seems like an obvious yes yes thing anyways more deets of the deal um it's worth as much as 125 million

dollars over the course of the deal which runs a little more than three years a source familiar with the pack told variety however another source said the deal, which runs a little more than three years. A source familiar with the pack told Variety. However, another source said the deal is valued at $100 million. So we don't know. So yeah, everyone thinks they know, but I'm sure it's something. Maybe somewhere in between like 112.5.

So with the deal, SiriusXM will replace Spotify as her distribution and advertising partner. They will have exclusive rights for advertising, distribution, content, events, and more for Cooper's distribution, content, events, and more. For Cooper's flagship Call Her Daddy podcast as well as the lineup

of shows from her Unwell Audio Network and Call Her Daddy will continue to be available to Spotify listeners because it's available to everyone. Yeah,

I think that people saw this and are like, oh, I'll never be able to listen to Call Her Daddy unless I have Sirius XM in my car. No.

This will not change the user experience. Like if you listen to certain episodes or you listen every week, like you'll be fine um i do wonder what this means for alex earl i feel like alex earl is kind of the star of that network of all the shows that that she had created and i wonder if she gets a piece of this like an upfront piece or like a percentage of this 125 because i feel like the success of unwell started with alex earl yeah But like how much of the pie is due to Unwell versus Call Her Daddy?

Most of it is due to Call Her Daddy. But I think that like when you shop around the whole thing, like it's very impressive. Alex Earl is like, is that girl? Right. Right. And I think any company like SiriusXM who's dying for Gen Z to get their hands on Alex Earl,

like you would pay a pretty penny for that. So I have to imagine some of this money goes to Alex Earl. I'm so nosy. Like I need to know need to know yeah well and Madeline Argy too like I don't know if Sirius XM exists in the UK and I know she's popular here but she's really popular in the UK so are we um I do wonder like what this means for those girlies and I know she has other shows but I think the Alex Earl and the Madeline Argy are like the big ones and I think they looked really attractive to Sirius XM who's like really in the stone age being like we want young audience that's what this deal was for like so easy for

them yeah like Alex Earl that's like and you know my fave who's your fave Harry Jowsey oh yeah I don't know if his podcast is like super popular I don't know if like the deal was I think it like just started I don't know if like they went from like you know 100 to 125 when harry jowsey was included but i i think there's real value there at unwell with some of their shows especially for a company like series xm who's like yeah gen z yeah yeah yeah that's like a lot of gen z in one bite it's a lot of gen z in one bite totally that's so much money such Such exciting podcasting news. Huge for women in media. I wonder what it means for the Kelsey brothers. Cause you know, they're on the table. They're up for, that's a good point at the market too. Yeah. They were shopping around. That must suck

to have your contract expire. Like around the same time as caller daddy, like going out and getting these big deals. There are certain shows like Joe Rogan, even though he's like pretty loyal to Spotify and he renewed with them. Yeah. But like if your contract is up at the same time and you're trying to get big bucks, good luck. However, they're kind of different audiences. So perhaps not. And like maybe the person who didn't get Call Her Daddy is like sitting there with a hundred mil.

Like, okay, Kelsey Brothers. No, and not, right. Spotify, there's an opening. Yeah. Maybe they'll go there. Yeah. It's very interesting. The network wars. I wonder where they will go. I it's very interesting the uh the network wars i wonder

where they will go i know i forgot that oh i guess amazon's in the game still too with one wondering is amazon spotify sirius xm oh and as it relates to sirius xm they had also snatched up smart lists i said that from five minutes wondering you said that yeah oh i got a big deal they did get a big deal and they've gotten a few big deals. But they had to split it three ways. So like. Snow, like literally,

thank God they didn't offer that to us. Like I, I do often think about how like, not only did she get 125 million, she doesn't have a co-host anymore. Oh, I actually do think this is really good for her. Maybe like,

um, like PR wise, but also probably for herself. Cause I think like with that first deal, 60 million, there was so much chatter around like her previous co-host. And I think like a lot of people, like there was just conversations about like what, you know, who earned that money. And now like this one to 125 million is built completely on like shit. She did completely on

the last three years. I totally agree. And that must feel so good. Like nobody can say shit to her now. Like that one 25, like it's really on everything. The network she built, the show she built, the interview she got, like no one can really say shit to her anymore. Yeah. And that must feel really good. Yeah. That's huge. So very exciting podcast time in podcasting. Very exciting time to be a woman in media. Oh, sorry. A women in media. Are you ready for our next story about another woman in media? Women, are you ready for our next story about another woman in media women a women in media i am ready yeah victoria beckham is getting her own docuseries at netflix oh well i guess they saw like the insane success with his and so much of the success like wasn't even about his career i'm like i want more of her and they listened and victoria beckham has

landed her own netflix docuseries after her scene-stealing appearance in her husband's last year honestly they really just need like a family reality show. Well, this is what we have for now. And we'll take it. The as yet untitled docuseries will follow Victoria's journey from Spice Girls superstardom in the 90s to modern fashion maven. Her posh Spice days may be behind her, but today Beckham is on a journey to build a fashion empire.

And now fans will be able to see the story behind it all. So I think, yes, they need a reality show, but they're not going to do a reality show. And that's a little lowbrow. It is. But like they did the docuseries for David. It was amazing. There was nothing lowbrow about it. I think it was really great for their family, their businesses.

And so they're like, let's do more of that. And the thing is, it kind of is a reality show, but the packaging is just a lot prettier and more elevated. And so we're getting the same thing, but we're calling it something else. And maybe it's just me. And like, these are my interests, but I found really the most interesting parts of his documentary to be about his early days with Posh, their relationship, like what it was like, you know, in British culture and then her time being spent with the Spice Girls. The Spice Girls is kind of just like this anomaly, you know, we've never gotten like a proper Spice Girls documentary Spice Girls like in-depth

you know analysis the history of the Spice Girls and I think this will be a little bit of that and I think there's a lot of mystery as to like what was happening behind the scenes there and then like her and David's relationship like makes it so everything I love this what's it gonna be called do they have a name no but it could also be Beckham part two yeah or like Beckham season two oh yeah turn the first one and then season three will be Brooklyn and Nicola yeah Beckham pelts Beckham pelts Beckham yeah yeah yeah I would love that she's such a queen that is like one of my favorite sagas in pop culture history I stan yeah and I do think they've worked it out they have like in a genuine way a genuine way

and i think that there is like a really bright future for them as a blended family i really hope so yes i agree i look forward to seeing this and i also feel like even though a spice girls documentary like would be interesting i wouldn't knock it i like this route a little bit better i think she's the most interesting spice girl by far and we will get a taste of spice spiciness major spice um while also getting everything else that we got from Beckham part one and maybe they'll have because you know you have like people who were there during that time in your life speaking on the documentary maybe you know Mel C will be a sit down with Mel C I'm okay do you know what I mean like I don't need to hear from like Emma Bun Emma Bunton. Okay, rank the Spice Girls.

How I feel about them today or how I felt about them then? All-encompassing, at-a-glance, zoom-out, big-bag theory. Rank them. Obviously, Posh is first. Well, because some of them, Posh is first. I think growing up, I really liked Baby Spice. Yeah. But, like, today. Doesn't do it.

Meh. I think Scary Spice today is, like like doing so much she's everywhere she's judging x factor like she's very uh much very relevant today less so than like sporty spice and i was a sporty girl growing up so i related to sporty spice in that sense i liked sporty spice a lot growing up we were very sporty and then ginger of course like could i relate more to a spice but she broke up the band. Right. So I can't really. I can't really rank them. I love them all for different reasons and at different times.

Okay. So I'll just go fuck myself with my questions. No, go do your ranking. I guess if I were to rank them all encompassing, it would go posh and then scary and then sporty and then baby and then Ginger just because she broke up the band. And I didn't resonate with her like looks. I liked her looks. The Union Jack. I really felt like I was a blend of Mel B and Mel C.

Honestly, like we all like wanted to be posh, but we weren't, you know, not all of us can be posh. Also, like we were 12. What are we being so posh for? Right. We weren't even 12. It's good that we were like five. And it's good that we were like seeing ourselves in Mel C.

Like we were committed to our extracurricular sports activities, you know? Yeah. And she was there for us. Correct. Are you ready for our fifth and final story yeah a little more women in business oh my god yes i'm so fucking ready for this i've been waiting spanx founder sarah blakely introduces sneaks a sneaker heel hybrid starting at 395 dollars a pair sarah blakely who founded the revolutionary shapewear company spanx who's

like literally genuinely like one of my heroes. She's amazing. No, and like is one of the most important, influential women in business in this century. Yeah, she changed womanhood. Like we owe her. Womanhood. She created like a new category of like, she's a fucking queen.

A new category of, of course, apparel, but also like a tier of success for a woman in business that we've never really seen before. She's like one of three. Yeah. She's like one of three, like self-made billionaires. She was on shark tank. She's like seriously one of the most impressive people on the planet. And like she invented something that became a word, which is like the coolest thing, right? Like bandaid, you know, we always refer to a bandaid, but bandaid is a brand, right? We now I'm putting on a pair of Spanx. It could be a different brand, but it's like Spanx is, you know, the new word for girdle for shapewear. Yeah. What she did is like beyond impressive. So it's very exciting to see what she was going to do next.

She's introducing sneaks, a sneaker heel hybrid that blends the style of a traditional high heel with the performance and comfort of a sneaker. Sneak sets out to solve three major pain points of the typical high heel design, the lack support unequal weight distribution and the squeezing of the toes you guys she said men invented the high heel centuries ago and its basic construction hasn't really changed there has been avoiding comfortable footwear and women deserve a new option i wanted to create a luxury high heel that prioritizes how women feel not just how we look but why do they have to look like sneakers can you zoom in and just quickly pan to camera you guys you guys never in your life seen something so ugly in a photo like seeing a visual reference is germane to this conversation because

they kind of look like remember how i think it was like a joke it was like crocs ex valenciagas like yeah it but this is not meant to be like high fashion and it's not meant to be satirical like it's actually and i love the concept of the brand. And so I'm, I'm hopeful that like this iteration is just, you know, V1 because the concept of her devoting like her millions to creating like sexy stilettos, like her, her brand mission that you just read sounds fabulous. What I'm seeing is so fugly. Yeah. It's like a joke.

It is a joke. I don't think they've been well received. The name is horrible. I'd rather have my toes crunched in a gargi pargi pair of heels than be waddling around in those. Why do they look like sneakers? And the name of the brand is Sneaks. I thought they were supposed to be heels that are comfortable. What the hell does that have to do with sneakers?

It's so deeply unserious. I would love heels that feel like sneakers. I don't want them to also look like sneakers. And, you know, we were just talking about the trope of very rich men. What do they do when they become so rich? They get to a point where they don't know what to do. They learn to fly. And I guess this is Sarah Blakely's like alternative. She's not going to learn how to fly. She's going to like, seriously, I don't know what the hell this is. Yeah. But I think like Spanx is like born out of relatability. She was just a woman trying to get into a dress and there we go. And like now she's no longer relatable.

She shouldn't be like, that's not a crime. Um, and she probably wears like really nice shoes. And a lot of times like really expensive heels that are made with like different materials and higher quality materials are more comfortable. And so this is her like attempting to relate to women who she is not anymore. But the brand mission, like I couldn't endorse more. It's brilliant. I'm like so glad somebody at her level is taking the time, the money to put this together. The design team needs to be put in prison. Yeah. I mean, but she's like, there she is wearing them, like saying, I would wear this. I saw, okay. They kind of look cool on her. I saw like people on social media being like, this is what happens when you don't need investors. And it true like the best brands and the best ideas are collaborative right like you have people from

all different walks of life and all different experiences giving but like she's just at this level where she doesn't need those people and she's just like yeah what if we just put a little stiletto on this ugly shoe and also when you have investors like you have to cater to like what other people like and make sure you're like saying no like yes to some things no to other things like you really has to be a honed idea versus if you don't like it could just be what's ever in your mind ploop there it is but like maybe sometimes you do need that chiseling of the idea it's the idea is so 100 the shoe is so negative 1000 fucking ugly i'm shocked yeah and let me tell you why because spanks clothing you've heard us talk, is some of my favorite clothes.

Are your parents Spanx? No, they are Goff. They look like it. They are some of the best clothing. They are so beautiful. They're well-made. Like, she obviously didn't tap the design team from Spanx. Like, she started anew.

I can't get over how something this ugly gets, like, through all the different phases of production to then be launched. I mean, who wants to tell Sarah Blakely, no, as we said, she's like one of the most powerful influential women in the world. I just, I'm disappointed tell Sarah Blakely? No, as we said, she's like one of the most powerful influential women in the world. I just, I'm disappointed because Sarah Blakely like could have really helped and she didn't. And now it's like a farce.

Sneaks? Maybe next season. Everything is horrible. The name could have been fine because it's literally Spanx sister for shoes. Oh, wait, I didn't think about it. It's literally like the same amount of letters and like SX.

Yeah. Okay. I love it. I love it. Thank you. Maybe next season we'll get the shoe that we're looking for. Maybe spring, summer. Yeah. Yeah. I, I feel like there's a reason why heels haven't been reinvented. Do you know what I mean? That's like such a good way of putting it. It's, it's like the physics of it. If you really want

like a gorgeous, long elongated leg, like the physics of it, you really want like a gorgeous long elongated leg like the physics of it it is what it is yeah the good news is that you don't have to wear heels if you don't want to i feel like back in the day like you had to yes but now like they're not germane required to being like a successful woman in society and like there are due to like the trends in not only like rules of society, but also fashion loafers, ballet flats. Like there are really sophisticated shoes that are really popular and trendy and acceptable, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I love that.

So maybe we'll see next season what sneaks has up their sleeve. But this was a great disappointment in my opinion. Sorry. Yeah. Sorry to Sarah. They're called high heels hy like hybrid that's bad that's really bad it's giving like healy i'd rather have a roller skate in my oh my god it's giving healy i love that i own a pair of healy's like some of my most prized possessions wear them i should name them name them blame them and shame them we're gonna continue with the show

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So is the email. Write in about anything. If you're ever going through something and you think like, damn, I would love to get my swirlies opinion on this. The swirlies are here. And we are opinionated. Relationships, family stuff, money stuff. The weirder, the better. Don't be ashamed. DeerToasters at gmail.com. First up, hello turd and jacks. I need help with a situation that continually causes strife in my marriage. My husband has a habit of using the soft fleece slash plush throw blankets that I buy. We have them on our couch and he uses them to pleasure himself. Yes, you read that right.

He will rub himself on the blankets, make a mess on it, and then throw the blanket in the laundry room and act oblivious as to why it needs to be washed. We've been together for 10 years and it's something that has happened repeatedly and something I call him out for, which always ends up being a fight. Should I get a lockable cabinet and keep all the blankets yes you put away so he can't continue this or do i simply not let it bother me and move on the second option is not working because i'm physically incapable of letting this go and it seems let it letting it go it seems so so what would you guys do yes um that's a really lockable box this is

crazy because those blankets like i, I love that we, they're the greatest thing. Minky Couture, Barefoot Dreams, the good ones are expensive. And they're not easy to wash. It's not like he's just using

like a bed sheet and you'll throw it in the wash and grab another one from the closet. Like, it is like a full body workout and a like three day excursion to wash one of them

and it never even comes back. It's so true. The same as when you put it in. And so, not only that, but he's not even washing it. He's leaving it for you and like control yourself, man, or get your own blankets. Like, I'm sorry, this is a house of like adults, civilians, and you, this is why we can't have nice things because you can't stop rubbing one out on them. No, that's really crazy. I would also suggest like, I also think it's really crazy to jerk off on the couch. That's obviously something you do in private, like in the shower, in your bedroom. So your, your man has like, seriously, no shame. Just good to know. Um, and you could try, I don't know if

this is like too simple, but like, why not on that, you know, couch, if there's an end table, like leave a plethora of tissues, maybe like a Eustar in bottle, like all the equipment, like you would give a teenage boy, um, like I don't know maybe try that I mean your man is insane like the fact that he's doing this is so crazy but like whatever boys will be boys no the fact that you confronted him and he's like seriously starting fights like are you okay actually here's the solution like if you really just don't want to deal with the confrontation and you just want your blankets to be kept nice but you also he has this you know habit thing um making a tour actually makes like smaller

blankets they make like really huge ones and all the way down to like crib blankets whatever get him like his own personal whack off blanket okay but why do we have to waste money on like a just one one little blanket what about a towel no he can wash it when he like and it is his to do with it as he pleases and he gets one and he leaves all the big comfy blankets for you. This is really crazy. I hope you feel. There you go. For his birthday, I got it for him.

I hope you feel validated in knowing like this is unacceptable behavior. You are 100% right. You should not let it go like by any means. Like definitely not. This is her husband. Like holding. A divorce. Holding onto this and like being angry about it and trying to change him like is only going to drain you and he's going to stay on the couch jerking off like not giving a rip

not washing his blankets like i need your piece back so like i'm jumping to the end of this saga where you just get him his own personal cozy blanket for jerking off but what's the stop words i never thought i'd utter what's to stop him from just reaching from one of your nice blankets you are to stop him and i reaching from one of your nice blankets? You are to stop him. And I don't think you need to go invest in like a nice one for him to destroy. Like seriously, go to the clearance aisle at Walmart or Target and just get like the cheapest. But get a small one.

It will make it easier to wash. He doesn't need this huge thing. He just wants needs one the size of his penis. He literally needs a tissue. Like try the box of tissues. He likes the feel. Can you blame him? Have you laid on a minky couture it's gargi bargi this is really nutty behavior jackie 50 at minky couture and get him a little

one okay i'm just trying to problem solve here i know but you're also giving i'm enabling yes yes and i am a little bit more principled than that like seriously this behavior for a grown-ass man spend all your time and energy trying to change him and you won't and then in a few months you'll say you'll be over here saying how can i just get this off my plate minkycouture.com jackie 50 mini i think it sets a bad precedent investing in this and enabling in this behavior sometimes you just can't be so scrupled and that's coming from me like i know you have to pick your battles and i don't want you wasting your energy on this because you're a fabulous girl you've got a lot of toast to listen to you can't be fighting with to me this is a hill worth dying on like for real it's so it's so crazy i respect that i just want to say like i respect it speaking of girlies who like seriously

are being blockaded from listening to the toast ready our next one our next one our next one hey turdy and jacks my boyfriend and i've been together for a little over two years oh sorry no this is not the next one wait okay i'll i switch it This is the one about girlies being blockaded. Okay. Hello, swirlies. Long time listener. First time writer. My husband and I have been together for nine years.

Married for three. Total p-jom. Uh-oh. No, no, no. He has a p-jom. This is like, he has a set night Wednesdays for game night with his friends. It's been going on for years. But lately, he just doesn't want to do it anymore.

He only wants to hang out with me, which is nice. But I really enjoy when he has his game night because it's the only time I can do what I want to do. Watch the shows that I want to watch like the toast and just completely desensitized what to say completely desensitized from being a stay-at-home mom and a wife I also just really enjoy being alone so how do I tell him I enjoy being alone and I want him to leave me alone without sounding like a total bitch okay an episode of sex in the city about this well is he like just not into game night anymore because it doesn't serve him or is it also like because he wants to be with you because maybe he doesn't go to game night anymore because it doesn't serve him or is it also like because he wants to

be with you because maybe he doesn't go to game night but you say listen I have enjoyed having this time so like you go to the basement I'll be in the bedroom like I need that's okay to say it's okay to say like I need a night to myself to do like my girly things and I think that you should start by saying that if it's like he doesn't want to do game night because he's so obsessed with you like I'm sorry there's literally seven days of the week 24 hours a day and like you're asking for three go away first of all second of all i also would encourage him like encourage this good behavior yeah but i would encourage him i actually think like having unless there's some nefarious reason why he doesn't want to go to game night anymore i actually think like having these routines game

night is so p-jump right like games are good stimulating for the brain boys but like all these boys getting together could be doing something way worse. I actually would encourage him unless there's like a really good reason why he doesn't want to go anymore. I would encourage him to keep going like it's a it's a good you know group of friends like those relationships. I know it's I'm the type of person where it's like yeah it's nice but like even with my book club which I love sometimes I'm like can I just lay home but I'm always happy that I went it's always stimulating. I love the girls in there like I i think that try and find out why he doesn't want to go anymore though because like what if the guys are mean what if they're mean what if they're all like

unhappy in their lives and like talking shit about their wives and then he doesn't want to be in that sort of environment like find out the reason why he doesn't want to go anymore if it's nefarious tell him to stay home but like i still need three hours of girly swirly time um and if you said he said you said he's a pjom if he like gets together with his friends and play games like I think he'll really understand he doesn't sound like evil yeah and you're right we want to be encouraging this type of behavior but like it's really important that your husband like every now and then leaves you alone and then also if it is about him wanting to spend more time with you then be like I still need those few hours for myself but like let's on a different night like

date night like go to dinner get a sitter and like have more special time for us. But that doesn't mean I'm not going to have any time for myself. This is where it's hard to be a wife because either like you're like the first girl, right? You're like trying to reprimand your husband for doing something like that and like trying to get through to him and he's just seriously not living on your planet. Or like you need to like, you know, deliver a harsh truth to a PJOM. Like we really can't win. Like why, like why can't you just be normal? It's because we're human beings. We're complex individuals. And then when you try and blend two different complex individuals together who came from different backgrounds in the context of all in which that came before them, the idea that every

minute of every day you're going to be simpatico is impossible. It's really the premise of love is blind. If it does simpatico 24 seven, you got a problem too. Yeah, no, they, um, you got a problem. I, when I was reading in Jay Shetty's book and when Jay Shetty came on the toast, highly recommend. Um, we talked a lot about fighting, like couples who don't argue, like you're not, that's not a good thing. Like you shouldn't, we never argue.

Well, you're not communicating. That's what Jay, Jay says. And then he said, obviously the extreme of like, you're always fighting. That's not good either. But like, it's all about balance. It is. It is. Life is about balance. That's not good either. But like. It's all about balance. It is. It is. Life is about balance.

That's so beautiful. A balanced diet is a cookie in two hands. In each hand. Fuck, I botched it. That was like a classic meme when I was in college. A balanced diet is a cookie in both hands. What am I doing? Holding a cookie in both hands.

Exactly. Being balanced. So to this swirly, just know like, it's okay to say this. Like. Yeah. It's okay. It's okay to say this like yeah it's okay i i am like the opposite of this person i hate being alone like every time ben leaves like he gets in trouble i'm like where are you going he's like to work unacceptable like i so i can't personally relate to this but i do understand like the concept of needing alone time yeah

couldn't be me but i understand it our third and final dear toasters hey jernie and jacks my boyfriend and i've been together for a little over two years. When we first started dating, I had major trust issues because of a prior relationship. So I started sharing his location with, with me without him knowing. I still have it without him knowing. And I look at it for things that help me with logistics, like making dinner on time,

did his flight land. Is he still at work? Et cetera. The other night I was out of town and I had not heard from him for, for an hour past when he was supposed to be off work. So I checked his location. It said he was at a massage parlor when he finally did respond to me calvin harris calvin harris had such a deep cut reference but like no one forgot that i actually had so thank

you for reminding me you need to know who was he dating at that time taylor yeah when he finally did respond to me he said he'd gotten chipotle and was at home when i checked again he did go to chipotle after the massage parlor was definitely not home yet after a quick google search the massage parlor is of course known for erotic massages and happy endings how do i confront him about going to that establishment without spilling the beans that i have his location signed a toaster that's unsure of his happy ending of this happy ending this is boyfriend yeah two years together um i mean i wonder what Taylor did with Calvin it sounds like she broke up with him I want to say and this is for some people like murky waters but this is full-blown cheating like your boyfriend just cheated on you so do with that information what you will

well I think the crime here is that he's lying about like he didn't tell you and then he lied about it when he had the opportunity to tell you because you asked him specifically where he had gone and i think there are certain relationships where men go to these parlors and they tell their wives or partners about it and it's like an acceptable form of whatever yeah no judgment and yeah everyone you know just different strokes for different folks denise richards literally different strokes um but him going him being a liar without ever having the conversation and then lying about it. This is cheating. Capable of lying to you.

Knows he's doing something wrong and continuing to do it. But now how do you bring it up to him? Because if you do want to stay in a relationship with him, because I do think this is something that like could be worked through. Say everything. Everything else is perfect. Say you want to work through it. Like you don't want to give up that you have his location

because now you need it. Because now you need to know when he's being a liar. Well, you could just say a friend of yours saw him leaving. That's true. I think he'll be more focused on the fact that he got caught rather than like how does she know that so i was gonna say how can we bring it up to him without giving away your source just be like someone i know saw you walking out of like a scary look at what else is in the shopping center like maybe there's a pharmacy or something nail salon you know sally was leaving the pharmacy and she saw you like walking out of this you don't say sally don't give up your friend yeah your hypothetical friend yeah i don't think um yeah without like the less detail you give the

better yeah but find a nearby establishment where someone could logically have seen him walking out of i doubt it's just like a standalone parlor you know on the side of the road or maybe like they were in the parlor you could just say someone saw you and not only were you there and it's known for happy endings, but I asked you where you were and you lied to me when I knew you were lying to me. I know. I mean, like the girl told me when it was. And then I looked at my phone and you had said that you were at Chipotle.

Right. And like now and now we'll deal with whatever he says next. Like I need one every day. And yet you need to work through like your feelings on that. Like for me, it's a fucking non-negotiable. Yeah. But some people I know that it's like a like not normal, but it's a common thing, right? These happy ending tours, facilities.

And there are girls who let their man go and it's less work for them. Like I get it. And also it's like, why, if you just went for the first time that day, like, why did you go? Is that speaking to like an intimacy issue in their own relationship? Like maybe it's part of a bigger conversation that needs to be had you need to confront him i think we gave you a really good way to do that and then you also need to work out your feelings on the subject because if it's

something that he needs in his life and it's a non-negotiable for you like don't do something you're not comfortable with and like you never know how those facilities are cleaned like then it does affect you it does so do with that information what you will yeah sorry about that that's that's definitely and also like decide how you feel about it before you have the conversation because otherwise he's gonna be like babe it's not a big deal like you're overreacting everybody does it and then you're gonna feel crazy but if it really really bothers you then don't let it go yeah let it go nope don't let it go don't let it go that's beautiful sorry that you're going through that but thank you to you know for for trusting us with that with that story and that information and

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