The Toast - Wood v. Solomon: Thursday, April 24th, 2025

Episode Date: April 24, 2025

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Good morning, girlies, it's the Toast. It's Jackson, Claude, and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's the Toast. They sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast and happy Thursday. Hope everybody's having a pargylicious, definition and latter half of the week.

Congrats, like we're doing the damn thing. We're on our way, sloping into the weekend. I'm on my way. Where is Mason Ramsey? He's so booked and busy. And I know like if you don't follow him, you probably don't hear about him. But in Mason's world, like he's doing big things

and he seems really fulfilled and happy and like it's all happening in a really. I forgot that I asked a rhetorical question to the Mason Ramsey encyclopedia. It's all happening in a really healthy way, you know? It's so important that when we're raising the youth in the spotlight that they do it in a healthy way. And Mason, I think, is one of the better examples.

So if you wake up in the middle of the night, whatever happened to the yodel kid? He's doing great. Just know. Just know, rest easy. He's thriving, he's making music, he's performing to fans, but not in a way that it's unhealthy. Okay.

That's your Mason Ramsey update for the year. Cause that's all he's giving us and that's good. That's a side of, that's a good side. Yeah. Well, welcome back to the Toast Happy Thursday. Hope everybody's having a great day thus far. It's gonna be a great day. It's beautiful out in New York City.

I found a t-shirt that fits, a new one to add to my rotation. It's Ben's, it's a great day. It's beautiful out in New York City. I found a t-shirt that fits, a new one to add to my rotation. It's Ben's, it's a double XL. Am I allowed to comment on it? Permission to comment? Let's just see, you know, things, your emotions are so unregulated when you're pregnant. Like, let's see if it pisses me off, let's hear.

Like, you're ready to turn self. Oh yeah, and there's a picture of myself on the shirt, which always helps. It's not just any shirt. No, it's OG Toast merch. It's from my... It's N-Log merch. What tour was that?

N-Log, yeah, it's not even a girl's merch. I don't get a cut of it. That's N-Log. Actually, I think you do. Like the way we had set it up, I think you did get a cut of the shirt. Not a big deal. No, I'm not upset.

I'm not upset. Too lazy to like parse it out, make a difference. I'm obviously not, I'm not still thinking about it. I'm not still thinking about it. Okay, everyone head over to M-log. Yeah, no, this shirt was kind of like a bestseller. There has been crazy demand for me to bring it back. Zach loves that shirt. Ben loves this shirt.

I love that shirt. I wore it when you performed at MSG with like- Hannah Berner wears this shirt every time she comes on the toast. It's like so supportive of her. That's so respectful. No, the first time she did it I said, oh, she knows the way to my heart.

Like the way to my heart is what Ben always says, like when we're like evaluating friendships, he's like, no, I'm not really into those people. I'm like, really, I love them. He's like, yeah, they're always up your ass. If you want, like the way, if you were to look at MapQuest, how to get to Claudia's heart,

it would be directly through my ass. Like, you just have to be at my ass, ask me questions about my job. Like what I, I'm so interested. There was like one person that I think we all thought like that we liked for a long time. Cause like one time she was like nice to us and like very inquisitive about us.

And it was set text me who we're talking about. And I think you're going to agree. And is this like somebody that listeners would know or it's like a friend of ours? Yeah, yeah. I mean, maybe like 5% of them, but yeah Let's say oh Okay, she never would have come to mind for me

So you thought that I actually thought that I liked her too because the time that I met her like she was so at My butt like it really goes a long way. But then I was like, maybe that's just a strategy Well, some people I think don't like wouldn't like that, you know, somebody who's asking them a million questions about their job, their life. For me personally, like I love to talk about myself. You're giving me a platform. Oh, and you think my answers are funny and interesting like you're invited to every like event I'm ever throwing for the rest of my life. Yeah, but then it's on you. Do you know who does that? It's on you to parse out if it's genuine because anybody can do that. And know that it's gonna mean a lot to you

So the person I'm texting you. Mm-hmm. Oh No, he's nice Yeah, no, no, like but that's why like I love him I like it because yeah, but he's not doing that. I think it's in a really genuine way I'm doing it so that you like him. No, he thinks, and by the way, you guys wouldn't know these people so it's not interesting to you. But like when I say that if you want to be my friend, just like crawl up my butt, like I'm giving you a roadmap.

Yeah, it's true. But now like you have to be discerning Claudia. Like that's on you to not let like these- Yeah, so I have to use my gut. Users, userous people. Totally. What's always so weird to me is the word usury. It always trips me up.

I've actually never used it. I didn't even know it was a word until right now. It's spelled so weird. U-S-E-R-Y. Usury. Usury. Usury. Usury. Every time I see it, I'm like, usury. Jackie usury?

Are you seeing it so frequently? It trips me up. It's tripped me up a couple times in my life. Usury. A couple of times. It trips me up. It's tripped me up a couple of times in my life. Us three. A couple of times. It's like that. Well now you got me thinking. Jackie, you took the words right out of my mouth.

It's even us three. I don't think it's New York one. When we were in high school, it was kind of like a major shift that happened in New York city. All the yellow cabs got TVs in the back of the, like now if you get in every single cab. In the back seat of the cab,

there's like a little screen, it plays like local news, highlights different restaurants. NBC first look. Commercial Sandy Canyon with the eyewitness news movie Minute. But there was a time before, I'm really aging us, but like before, like probably maybe the 10th grade,

you were just sitting in the cab. So when they rolled out these televisions, it was nationwide news. Everyone was talking about these TVs. We thought it was so high tech like we were living in the future. And one of the local correspondents who got really famous just because he was in every taxi TV

talking about random things was this handsome young fellow. He's still on it named David Ushry. Yeah, no relation to us. No relation, very handsome young black guy. And people would say like, oh, oh, Claudia Ushery like David Ushery. I'm like, close, it's Ushery and Ushery, but we're definitely connected somewhere down the line.

1000%. Do you also remember that same time when they were getting TVs, they also had this initiative. Flowers. Flowers on the hood of the taxis. They had this like, I don't know what it was, probably like an art.

Yeah, it was like, they do that sometimes, like the Park Avenue Conservatory, they'll work with different artists. Yeah, they put the flowers on Park Avenue, like everyone has their beat, but for some reason, the initiative was to paint the taxis with like beautiful flowers on the hood

and like all the taxis in New York. The front hood. And it like took time, and in the beginning it's like you would see the hood and like all the taxis in New York. And it like took time. And in the beginning, it's like, you would see one like, oh, I got a flower taxi. And then over the course of a few months, like every yellow taxi in New York city had a huge flower painted on the hood.

Every two, no, no, it was like a mural, like a medley of flowers. I, every two years look up a picture of those taxis. Just to me, they were like the golden age of New York. And sorry, like Michael Bloomberg thinks he did that. That. That. I don't know, like who paid for it, who painted it.

I don't know. But it was- Why was it just to beautify the city? I feel like if you watch- It was a beautification committee thing. If you watch Seasons of Gossip Girl from that time, you'll definitely see flower taxis. But I would love to know.

That was like such an era. It was like the Fashion's Night Out era. Do you remember Fashion's Night Out? Do I remember? Does Fashion's Night Out remember us? Remember us. Fashion's Night Out was like this one night a year. No.

Flower Taxis were part of a series of public art projects that the Massey's have done with children in their Portraits of hope project since its founding. Who are the Masseys? Harjit, do it again. Do it again, do a flip. Oh my God, these taxis, Claudia. No, I know, I recently looked up a photo of them.

Like they transported me back to such a special time in my life. Yeah, wow, that's really something. Ed and Bernie Massey, I don't know them, but thanks. And Fashion's Night Out, like if you were there, you were there, it was this one night a year where all the major stores, whether it was like designer boutiques, department stores,

every store in the city would open up its stores after hours, like after seven o'clock. And had basically like host- I was gonna say, it happened for like three years. It was a big failure. It was not a success. Was it? I feel like it was like five years. Maybe, maybe five, but it was a failure.

But it was such a great, lovely, like idyllic concept, right? All these stores would open up after hours and host like little cocktail parties for people who were like into fashion. You could be, we were people, we were like lay people, we were randos. Seniors in high school, like just randos walking in.

It was so nice. It was like kind of getting to be an influencer for a day. Try being an influencer for a day. Try it. And then it would have like influencers there. You know, if fashion's night out was still on, like you'd be booked and busy. 1000%, and they would have like little activations,

you would get like your photo taken, like you were a nobody and it just made you feel special. I don't know how the stores made money or anything, but it was a really cute concept. Real awareness. Yeah, I think now like humanity, I can't see it going well, like humanity's so, like there'd be so much robbery, like yeah. It would, like somebody would die every fashion's night out, so can't see it going well. Like humanity, it'd be so much robbery.

Like yeah, it would, like somebody would die every fashion design out, so it's probably not worth it. But at the time it was fun. No, and it's like they canceled it before it even got like, it didn't go poor, like no one got robbed or anything, but it was just like not a major success so they stopped doing it. Like imagine doing it in this climate.

Something terrible would have happened to eventually end it. Yeah, but I just think it was a boost of time and money. No, it was, I have such fond memories. And we have like pictures of our mom like literally taking pictures of us. Night going to fashion site. We were so excited, you guys. It was so cute.

It was such a sweet little thing that these nice big stores did for us. We can't have nice things anymore. Our first stop was always- Bendels. Bendels. Rip. Those were the-

You have to find those pictures that mom's talking about. Do you know what I'm talking about? Like by the elevator of our apartment. That's when the city lost its touch when Bendels went out. Agreed, that is like, they say like a recession indicator. Like things are about to get really bad. Bendels, Henry Bendels closing down, tough times.

Things were never the same. So true. I also feel that way about California pizza kitchen. Oh yeah, the culinary cuisine in New York was never the same. And now also- The culinary scene. Culinary scene. There was two, they're both gone.

The first one was a loss for the- No, the first one was a loss. The second one was kind of like generic. The first one was like a real local family friendly place and it was attached to the Dylan's candy bar when that went out also. Big recession indicator. Is there anything great anymore?

I actually walked past it the other day. You know what they're putting there? And if this doesn't say it all. Dwayne Reid. Blinds to go. Yikes. Blinds to go. And then I would also say that the,

Hill, didn't the Hillstone go out recently? Yes, Hillstone 54th and Park. And if the other one goes out, which I don't know why I'd ever would, it's the busiest place in the city and you can't even get a table. If they ever go out, it's because I burned it down because I think their rules are so annoying

about like getting a table and like it shouldn't be that hard to get a reservation. If it ever goes out of business, it's because I set fire to the Hillstone. What's crazy about Hillstone is like, no matter who you are, you have no pull. Like you could call your agents, your publicists, no one can get a table easier

than a person could get a table calling up. Yep, no, it's so like communist over there. There's no oligarchy. I hate it. So I am literally gonna burn it down. I understand, but please don't because it's so tasty. But I do think like the success of the city is hinging on that one hillstone still being in business.

And if that goes- It's a lot of pressure. Down goes the city. Did you watch Summer House last night? Of course I did. We have a TV recap today. We've got stories. Our fifth and final story will lead into the TV recap

because it's Paige on Watch What Happens Live. So that's like one to the other. And I also don't want to make the episode go too long because I know how my girl gets. Thank you. I also, I'm excited later today, I'm getting a facial. I'm just like treating myself. Who are you?

I don't know why I thought facials were things like pregnant people couldn't participate in. I never bothered to look into it. I just figured like you couldn't do it. Well, you probably can't do some of the fun stuff like serious chemicals, anything actually like effective. But I could do hydrofacial, right? The zoom off the top?

Yeah, the zoom off the top. Yeah, I think so. I don't see that. And they know I'm pregnant, so like. Yeah, and I'm sure if you can, like someone will let you know in the comments today. Maybe don't. I did the hydrofacial once in 1980,

and I did not feel safe. Yeah, no, maybe tell me later. I'm just like, whatever, you know? Really, you wouldn't have known before? How bad can it be? Dr. Fox said, obviously I know I'm not gonna do any like lasers or whatever. Dr. Fox said there's really nothing I could put on my face

that would like hurt the baby. Retinal? Well, yeah, sure. You should just like mess with him. Botox? No, no, sorry. He meant like skin hair wise. Topically.

Yeah, topically, correct. Topic, great word. Great word. Like bonus word. Remember when we used to do Word of the Day? Did we really didn't? Even though that's like something- Yeah, we did.

We did for like, not in a real way. Even though that's like something that we should so obviously do, but like, not in a real way, even though that's like something that we should so obviously do, but we never have in a real way. And I don't want to. This is a great one. This is a great one. Camerian Webster's word of the day.

This is a word I've definitely heard of, but like I have no idea what it means. And I kind of want to start using it, ready? Ostensible. Do you know what it means? No, but ostensibly like would mean presumably. So seeming or said to be true or real, but possibly not true.

Wait, presumably. So how would you use it in a sentence? Like it's ostensible that you could get a hydrofacial during pregnancy. Hmm? How'd I do? It's kind of good. What? It's kinda good.

What? It's kinda good. Oh, thanks. I didn't know if you said the opposite of that. Okay, I kind of crushed word of the day. Plausible, plausible. That's like a synonym. Presumable.

Yeah. I crushed word of the day. You did. W-A-T-T. I think the reason why we don't do like an official word of the day and why it's never appealed to us is that in our own way, we always have a word of the day. So sure we are Miriam Webster.

In an organic way. And it's really crazy that it's Miriam. Today's word of the day like would have been us three. Yeah. Yeah. Um, don't you think it's like so weird that her name is Miriam? As opposed to Miriam? Like just change it. But is that a person's first and last name? I don't think so.

Isn't there a dash in between? There is. I don't know what it means. Maybe it's two people. Mariam and Webster. Like Dwayne Reid. Like Selino and Barnes. Actually, you know they're just Selino now.

I know, RIP. They're actually Selino and Selino. I think you brought a set into the practice. RIP, King. RIP. I don't know. I know, rip. They're actually Selena and Selena. I think he brought a sudden to the practice. Rip, King. Rip. I don't think he died. I think they split and then he died. Oh, I think you're right.

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Thank you, Turtee. Oh my God, it's seriously like running a marathon. I can't breathe. I understand. Woo! Thank you for your service. To those who stuck with me, thank you. Our first story is some really great news

that we have been eagerly awaiting to hear, which is that Teddy Mellencamp is giving an exciting update on her stage four cancer battle after revealing the 50-50 odds. So she gave an exciting update on her cancer battle. She said, I just finished with all my scans and my tumors have significantly shrunk, which doctors believe means that this treatment

all will work and that I will be back to myself and feeling good. She further shared that she has two more sessions of immunotherapy and then hopefully she'll be done and cancer free. She said, I'm gonna keep a positive outlook because that's the way my doctor just spoke to me. He's like, you did this, you got this.

She said, I have six-ish more weeks of immunotherapy and doctors believe I will be all healed if everything stays the course. Wow. Wow. I guess like seeing how you react to a treatment, like it either could be very good or very bad. Or not working.

I'm so happy for her, like for real. So happy for her. I mean, the last update that we had was really sad. Dark. Really dark. And I had been seeing headlines. She was like joking about it, but she was talking about how her dad was like

planning her burial spot. So just like really, really sad stuff. And so to have a happy update is really fantastic. I agree. I think about her a lot, you know? I think a lot of people just even like she wasn't your fave on Beverly Hills. Maybe you didn't even watch Beverly Hills,

but like you're familiar with her. I think her story has just like, and she's a young mom. Maybe you're a John Cougar Mellon camp stan. Yeah, like she has young kids. This is, she said young, like it's just a very shocking story. So I think it's like touched a lot of people. And I think a lot of people are just like wishing her the best in praying for her.

So this is a similar thing. Yeah, I'm really happy for her. Yeah, same. Are you okay? Yeah, do you know when like your baby kicks and like your whole body shakes? Where's the kick? Oh, they're everywhere. I don't even know where he is these days. I'm not even trying to like understand

what position he's in. Like I'll find out at my next doctor's appointment. I feel like, I don't know if that I would feel like my whole body shake, but I remember like so many times, like I just had a foot in my rib. Well yeah, because your baby was in a normal position. I haven't experienced that.

But like I would just be holding a foot all the time, like and that's where I would kick. No, no, I, because I like rest my hands on my, when I'm like on my phone, I rest my hands on my belly. Sometimes I get a kick, like my phone goes flying. Like that's really crazy. That's so funny. That's what I just felt, like you know,

I could feel like I could see my stomach moving. Like maybe I'm just like feeling my own. Did you guys see it on camera? Well you probably could see my stomach moving. Like maybe I'm just like feeling my own. Did you guys see it on camera? Well you probably could see your stomach moving. But I'm wearing like a baggy shirt. Like I'm telling you, my whole body moved. Oh, maybe it was the- Also, I've been seeing some rumors like about me.

Share, I love rumors about you. Just some complaints, like I haven't really shown my bump a lot on the toast and like maybe I'm faking it. You're lying, I haven't even seen a whisper of that. No, nobody accused me of faking it. You wish lying. I haven't even seen a whisper of that. No, nobody accused me of faking it. You wish they would. No, but people are like,

Trudy show your butt more. Like, no, okay, no. I haven't even seen people say that. There you go, okay. I haven't even seen people say that, Claudia. I have, like everybody's obsessed. They wanna see me naked. Like they wanna see my nude maternity shoot that I did.

Well, you've been like sending naked pictures in the chat. I have, well, my body's really changed a lot in the last week or two, and it changes every week. You've been sending nude photos, and so you obviously have a little predilection for it at the moment. Yeah. Go take maternity pictures. No, I really can't, but I do,

I feel like I need to be honest with you. You edited it. Yeah. I don't care. The photos I sent in our family chat, just like I wanted to show everyone, I don't ever edit my stomach. That feels like really fucked up, but like my legs, oh my God, yeah.

We had, and I was in the sunlight too, so they were looking really cellulite-y. I know, I thought it was like, you were looking what? So it's very cellulite-y and I had to take care of it. So I don't know. Is that all you edited it? Oh, and my chin. What about, not like an arm?

Okay, I did like the thing is I feel like my arm looks good in the photo and I did a little bit, but I think like admitting it and then you think my arm is fake. Like that actually, that's pretty much what my arm. Honestly, probably the difference would only be visible to you. I would say the biggest difference is my chin.

I had like a real hanging turkey neck. Okay. I'm on my way. So much goes down the chart. I can't, like I literally can't even find you. And for some reason when you go to photos and images, like not everything comes up. Okay, what is that?

What the hell is that? Like you go to a group chat and you can go to all the data and they just sort by all the photos that have been posted and half of them aren't there. More than half, what the hell is that? I do not know, but I can't find your picture. It's so fucking annoying. And I have work to do, so I can't even go look

for the nude photo that I should have saved it. It wasn't nude, by the way. I was wearing my maternity undies and a big nursing bra. But when you're a person who never takes a nude, a picture of your bare skin, that's a new photo Go take maternity pictures like just for you. It's just no no no like no no, but you love it No, I love it. No, they edit you like yeah star Hmm I

Feel like I've officially gotten like a little bit of pregnancy face So if I were to have done photos, I would have done them before that. I should, like I didn't act quick enough. No, I disagree. Next excuse. We'll get them next time. We'll get them next time.

I'll tell you my thoughts. Oh, also next excuse, like I'm tired. Well that one, I remember I was so, it was the most exhausting thing. You have to like stand on your tippy toes too. And they're like, they know what to tell you how to pose, but it's really strenuous. You have to stand on your tippy toes too. And they're like, they know what to tell you how to pose, but it's really strenuous. Like you're using all your muscles.

Oh my God, I came home at eight girl cheese and passed out. Yeah, I honestly, like I can't sign up for something like that. One of my better naps. One of like my goal, I wake up every day and I say, I'm gonna do the toast. I'm gonna slay the house down and that's it. Like I, that's the one thing I need to accomplish

every day. A photo shoot, I would die. I understand, modeling is hard. Yeah, and as you know, kind of seasoned models in the industry, we obviously know that. Are you ready for our next story? Which was a turdys choice, choice, choice, it's a turdys choice, choice, choice.

Yeah, I feel like I really need to make fun of George Clooney a lot, and I haven't had the opportunity, and he sort of, he brought me right on a silver platter. Okay, well, George Clooney is making an unbelievable claim about his marriage to wife Amal. George declared that marriage is easy and that he and wife Amal still have never fought

after a decade together. So two years after telling Gayle King that communication in his marriage to Amal was the easiest thing by far, and that they'd never had an argument, he doubled down on the claim on a Monday interview of CBS Mornings. He said, I remember we were here with you once before

and I remember we said we'd never had an argument. I feel so extraordinarily lucky to have met this incredible woman and I feel as if I hit the jackpot. There isn't a day that goes by where I don't think I'm the luckiest man in the world. So it's great. No, I know people like read this and are like,

oh, she's so lucky. Oh, I could vomit. Like, let me tell you, okay? First of all, I actually don't think that he's lying. Like I don't think that him and Amal have actually ever had a fight. And I think that's something he really needs to stop telling people because you're not married.

Like you have a roommate. It speaks to a lack of marriage. Yes, like either, and you know, I know everybody jokes, like you always jump to inclusion, like you're gay or she's a lesbian. Because like someone who you're actually in love with, intimate, building a life, they have kids, right? Yeah.

You're telling me you don't fight? Especially when the kids come. I'm sorry, that's just a lie. Oh no, sorry, I don't think it's a lie. I don't think it's a lie, because I don't think he's lying, because he now said it twice. He just lives in a different house.

But you shut up. Has a different family. Yeah, you've abandoned your family, clearly, because even in the world's most amazing marriage, you're supposed to fight. So the fact that you're over here, that's like admitting that you're not married. I wonder what Jay Shetty thinks about this.

He would never say. I know, Jay Shetty, he would never say, but Jay Shetty came to mind. And I also wanted to talk about this because I don't know if you've seen George Clooney more specifically, his hair recently. I did, unfortunately against my will. He ran some like black tar through it

and it's like slick and gray, I mean, excuse me, and black. And obviously like he's the OG Silver Fox. And so it was really jarring to see. And I think we need to make fun of him more. Like, why would he do that? He gets a pass, the two of them think they're like dignitaries and they're like above being clowned on, but like he's just an actor.

No, no, and your hair is horrible, sir. Do something about it. Like, I couldn't believe what I saw. That was him doing something about it. It's so crazy though, because men get such a pass, right? Like, George Clooney is the most popular likable he's ever been, and he's the oldest he's ever been. Like, he's the prime example of like an aging man

in Hollywood who only gets more attractive, you know? And you're biting the hand that feeds you. You wanna look younger now? You look silly. Yeah. You look like clowns. I never thought much about it. I'm a George Clooney hater now. I mean, I never was obsessed.

I thought the idea of the two of them was really nice. It was like, finally, but justice for Stacey Keebler. Interested, just, actually, okay, I'm so glad you brought that up. Justice for Stacey Keebler. In the end, she dodged a bullet, of course. Oh, did she dodge a bullet? And she's so happy now. It's like Leo and Cammy Marrone. Like if he marries one day,

I'll say justice for Cammy Marrone, but I'm sure like it's a miserable life, you know? Yes, yes, like we see it as an outsider. Like Stacey Keebler put in all the work. She made him who he was. And she was a perfectly like good age appropriate-ish girlfriend. Like there was literally no fucking reason that he didn't marry her. Like, I mean, I mean, I mean, He'd put in all the work. She made him who he was. And she was a perfectly good age appropriate-ish

girlfriend. There was literally no fucking reason that he didn't marry her. Breaks up with her and marries an ex-girl. It was so wrong. But she comes across my social media or my desk every now and then. So happy.

She has multiple kids. She's a really hot husband. She's fine. But it's wrong. Yeah. Just to say, but it's wrong. Yeah. So just to say, like, I've never been the biggest George Clooney fan, but like, yes, I'm in my hater era now.

Now everything he like says does what they do. It's not for me. So I was shocked that you like, you wanted to talk about them. Yeah, because I thought of it as an opportunity to like be negative on my platform. And she couldn't be an example to others. Speaking of being negative and having unpopular opinions,

we're doing a Patreon later today called unpopular opinions, hot takes and pop culture where people are submitting their hot takes and we're gonna share some of our own, even though like we never shy away. This would be one of my hobbies. Major shout out to the BFFs pod cause we totally stole the idea from them. Oh yeah, but we've done it before,

but then I saw that they did it. Oh have we? Yeah, we have, and it was fun. And then I saw they did it, I was like, oh Claude, we should do this again, it was so fun. So I was going through the submissions this morning, and it's gonna be really hard not to be so mean. People are like, your hot take is,

your natural inclination is to be mean, right? Of course, unless there's someone that everybody hates and you love, well classic me. Yeah, yeah, but most of it is everybody loves and you hate. I feel like most of it, I remember from last time it's about Beyonce. Is that? No, I saw one about Beyonce,

but she was not a popular submission on today's. Oh, okay, good, good. I don't wanna do the same episode again, so good. I'm glad people's takes are changing. But yeah, I would say like, I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion, but like these two. I think it is a pop culture hot take.

Like I don't think that they're goals. I don't find if this is an unpopular opinion, but like these two. I think it is a pop culture hot take. Like I don't think that their goals, I don't find him like attractive. I like actually like really don't like him. And to me, I don't look at them and be like, I'm charging them up. I don't fucking care. Okay. No, like why don't you go back to your separate dwellings

and live your fake lives. And like, it's so easy to make your life look perfect when you do one public event every year, like the Venice Film Festival. Like please have a reality show and then I'll be impressed. Yeah. Well, actually speaking of a new reality show, that's actually a great segue.

Jimmy Kimmel is producing a new Hulu docu-series starring model sisters, Brooks Nader and her three- Jimmy Kimmel? Jimmy Kimmel is producing- Are you sure? Claudia, from Variety's lips to your ears, Jimmy Kimmel is producing a new Hulu docu-series starring model sisters Brooks Nader and her three sisters who look like her

named Grace Ann, Mary Holland, and Sarah Jane Nader. The show is going to be called Love Thy Nader, and it will premiere on both the streamer Hulu and the cable network free form later this summer. So it's already been filmed. The show is a coming of age docu-series that stars the Nader sisters who left their humble beginnings in the Louisiana Bayou

for the glamor and grind of New York City. So I wanna say two things. One, I think Hulu's actually doing an amazing job in the unscripted area. Like I think they're killing it. Sex Lives of Mormon. Sex Lives of Mormon Wives. What's it called?

Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Vaner Bumvilla is out today. I've heard it's actually amazing. Kardashians. So this, I feel like they really have their finger on the pulse. And I have a, I'd love to see a sisters reality show. I think, you know, everybody's always chasing

the high of the Kardashians, right? Like let's, who are the next Kardashians? The Colpo sisters, like, I feel like everybody does it. Having said that, we, I have heard about the show because they have been spotted with cameras, like over the course of the last year and it's always on Dumois. And I feel like there has been like a small

but mighty effort to like get the Nader sisters to be famous and it's like not taking. Having said that, following Brooks's journey like with Gleb and whatever and her TikTok, like she will stop at nothing to be famous. Like she's actually really motivated. And I think like if anyone can get it done, I think she's got what it takes.

It's a good quality to be motivated. And I agree that this is not a bad idea. I think at the end of the day, it will come down to like the personality of the sisters. If they connect with people, if they resonate with people, if people- And if they open up, like I think a lot of people don't realize like,

she was married to somebody like a billionaire. And like, there's a lot of like interpersonal drama that it doesn't make it on their Instagram, but they're actually deeply interesting if you know stuff about them. So I think they'll open up. She was dating her dancing with the Stars Pro. Was it Gleb or Alan?

Gleb, the one who Lisa Vanderpump fainted on. Gleb, she was dating Gleb up until yesterday, and so I think she opened up about the last year of her relationship with Gleb. I don't care. Oh, I don't care. No, I don't care at all. Especially, they were filming in the last year she was dating Gleb, and I don't care. Oh, I don't care. No, I don't care at all. Especially like they were filming in the last year, she was dating Gleb, like,

and I'm sure she'll be open about dating. Yeah, but like Gleb's a part of the show. I'm sure she'll be open about dating Gleb. That's not what I mean open wise. I think so, you know, I think that, I think they will leave it all on the show. Like this is a once in a lifetime opportunity. If they're wanna be the next Kardashians,

they don't seem shy, like let's do it. Like you said, they're motivated. I think they understand the assignment. It's just- And what it takes. The question is, will we care? I know, and that's the thing. Even with all the Gleb drama, like yeah,

they keep trying, there's like, not an industry plant vibe, but there's like a machine trying to get the Nader sisters to be a thing, and I feel like people don't care. Yeah, but I, maybe in a formatted reality show format package for caring, I will. I will totally give this a shot.

I love four sisters. I mean, could there be anything more relatable? They're all gorgeous. Yeah, they're all like models. Hulu does a nice job. It has all the making. So like- It does.

I think this is a great idea and they either have it or they don't. And that's that. And to be clear, while like the dancing with the stars stuff, like is a pop culture blind spot for me, like I literally don't care. But like there are people who seriously wait outside for the tour, like for days to get seats in the front row. Like there is a large constituent constituency of people who like deeply, deeply care about the pros, the relationships between the stars, the tour. And so this might be for them.

Definitely, but they're gonna need more. They're gonna need people like the pop culture. Swear to you. People like us. And you know what? This is like so up my alley. I will watch, I will give the show a shot for sure, but like I need to like it.

Actually, if I like it- It reminds me a little bit of the culpos. If I like it, it will give this show a shot for sure, but like, I need to like it. Actually, if I like it, it'll- It reminds me a little bit of the culpos. Actually, if I like it, it'll probably get canceled. So maybe you shouldn't like it. So maybe it's better if it doesn't, if I don't like it. Yeah, maybe. Uh-oh, things are not looking good for the Pauls then.

Oh yeah, although I do think the Pauls are a little bit out of your cancellation orbit. It's true, it's true. They're like too big to flop. Oh, speaking of flops. No, and it's like, I'm not the only one like propping them up. Like they're fine without, they don't need me.

Speaking of flops, Katy Perry's Lifetime Tour opened in Mexico City last night. I've been seeing it all over my TikTok because like they know I'm like one of four people who care. It looks so fucking crazy. Like, and one thing about Katy, and I think we've said this all along, is like she really doesn't know who she is, it looks so fucking crazy. And one thing about Katie, and I think we've said this all along, is she really doesn't know who she is as an artist.

And you forget that this is a woman, how old is she? She's in her 40s, she's a mother. I feel like we're always saying, well, she would just lean into the real Katie. Because this persona she puts on, I was watching this Entertainment Tonight interview she did about the intergalactica. The whole theme is alien space lifetime, I don't fucking know.

And she's fighting a cretin with a lightsaber on stage. It's so stupid. I just felt really silly watching it and it makes me so sad because she's got the hits. She's actually a really talented vocalist. So that's really all you need for a tour. You don't need to be the best, most amazing, deepest songwriter.

And she's like, actively, she can't get out of her own way. It's true. What is she doing? I don't need to be like the best, most amazing, deepest songwriter. And she's like, actively, she can't get out of her own way. What is she doing? I don't know. I wonder what the thought process is. I do think like there's something to be said about like, not putting your whole self into your on stage persona. Having a persona is a good thing where it's like, you put the mask on and you take the mask off.

You don't have to like be like a bleeding heart at the stage. And nobody wants that, like keep it together. I agree. But like the messaging needs to be like more, like there are so many. No, and the persona needs to be good and cohesive and make sense.

There are so many good ways to do it. Jackie, you have to see some of these clips. Like it was seriously crazy. I saw, and then I also saw she's like dancing with astronauts and then she like said, has anyone ever like a big bird that flies through the stadium? Like she's just doing so much. Yeah. I don't know.

I don't know. I think you have to go see it. Of course, I'm going to see it. Are you ready for our fourth story? It's more TV news because the new Golden Bachelor has been announced and he is seriously eligible. Okay, is he rich? The new Golden Bachelor is Mel Owens. He's a former NFL player.

He was the ninth overall pick in the 1981 draft by the Rams and he now works as a lawyer in Orange County. Oh, cute. Okay, let's see. Cute, right? Oh, Mel Owens. Like ask Ben if he knows him. He definitely doesn't.

I'm not even gonna bother. Ben doesn't even watch football, let alone my dad from the 80s. Gary, Jerry, what's his name? Gary. I think he's sick. The original, he is still like so handsome. I'm sorry, Mel doesn't hold a candle to Gary.

Oh yeah, Gary is the baddest to ever do it, but I think Gary is sick, Claudia. Yeah, and he got canceled. Remember when they tried to cancel Gary? Like that was seriously fucking crazy. No. What was it, the Hollywood Reporter did like a big expose on the Golden Batch in 1972, his wife had a cold

and he left her. Yeah, he has an incurable cancer diagnosis, Gary. Oh my God. Very sad. Okay, well I bet his life was amazing and look how at the tail end of it he just became famous. I know, I know. When they tried to cancel Gary, that was a low point.

Oh my God. When they tried to cancel Gary, that was seriously, it's a parody. Like it's something that SNL would write a sketch about and then it actually happened. Yeah. And it was like not even crazy stuff. No, it was like, okay, he one time,

no, it was about his marriage, right? Cause the whole thing was that on the show his wife died and it was the worst thing that ever happened to him. He's a widowed looking for love. And it was like, yeah, well, he started dating someone three months after his wife died and he's a bad guy. Who gives a fuck?

Oh, and that he lied about his businesses. Remember that he was a custodian or something? Yeah, there was something about a hot tub. So never mentioned are his years of post-retirement work installing hot tubs. Yeah, they were something about hot tub. So never mentioned are his years of post retirement work, like installing hot tubs. Yeah, they were like clowning on him because they made it seem like he was like a big fancy rich business owner. And I guess at one point, like he worked as like a fry cook and a McDonald's. And they were like, well, he's not an entrepreneur. So it was so crazy. I hope the person that wrote that article, like it feels deep shame.

You mean, there's two people. Say her name. You mean Susan O'Malley and Barbara Lippert? I mean exactly Susan O'Malley and Barbara Lippert. Say their names. The Golden Bachelors, Not So Golden Past? Literally disgraceful journalism. Like, I don't know if I'll ever get over it.

Sorry, it's Suzanne. Wait, also it's the only thing she's ever written for the Hollywood Reporter. Oh, I smell a rat. Claudia and Barb, what did she do? She's only written two things. What? What?

Who are they? They just hire these staff writers like to- So Barbara is a media critic and writer. She recently reviewed the golden bachelor for next tribe.com. So she may be a freelance writer and her and Suzanne put this together and then pitched it to Hollywood reporters.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. My God. I mean, it must've been a slow news day for the Hollywood reporter. Wow. I'm so glad we're going back here because like. We actually need to send an annual reminder.

Like we can never forget that that happened. Annual reminder of what they tried to do to Gary and Mason Ramsey is doing well. Okay, we'll check in April 24th of every year. So speaking of Mel Owens being the ninth overall draft pick, the draft is tonight. Oh, is it? So is the Nick game.

So if you're looking for me tonight, I'm really busy being an active participant. So is the new episode of Paul American. So shit and TV and I had to start the Redheads book. Well, how are we going to do it all Jackie? That's what we do. I need screeners for Paul American. But I also just saw that Jake Paul bought like a $40 million house in Georgia. You're kidding me. I'm so jealous. But like, well, it was listed for 42 million.

I don't know what he paid. And they said it's like for his business. Like they don't think he plans to live there. Yeah. It's an estate. Yeah, well at that, at that amount you would hope so. At that price. Before you dive to the next story,

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Our fifth and final story, Paige's Sorbo is dismantling her quote, liar ex, Craig's Southern Charm reunion claims on Watch What Happens Live. Okay, I just wanna say, I feel like that headline's inflammatory. Why? Because I watched pretty much all, I didn't watch the episode, I watched all the relevant clips, right? Of all the moments that I's inflammatory. Why? Because I watched pretty much all,

I didn't watch the episode, I watched all the relevant clips, right? Of all the moments that I've made. And I actually felt like, while her and Craig are obviously like not getting back together anytime soon and they like don't like each other, I felt like she was like not mad

or vindictive in the episode at all. I felt like she kind of seemed healed. And while she had to answer all these questions, cause it's like a year's worth of drama, she didn't feel like angry or mad, like even the Madison LeCroy thing, which I found to be so interesting. She was like, no, I'm just like sad,

but like I heard she was talking shit. So like, yeah, I didn't answer her text. What did she say? Oh, and he was like, well, what do you think about what she said? What did she say? And she had said that like, she was really disappointed that her and Paige-

Paige didn't reach out to her when she was pregnant. And that she had reached out to Paige, like post breakup and Paige never answered. And so Paige was like, well, that's like not entirely true. Like before we broke up a couple of weeks, I had heard that she was like talking shit about me in Charleston and I was like bummed about it

because I thought we were real friends. And then she did not text me when we broke up. She texted me like two months later in January when there was like a lot of internet drama and it's like she was reaching out like not about the breakup, but about the tea. And I just didn't answer because I didn't feel like, you know, like starting drama or whatever.

So that's why I didn't answer. She like every question didn't really, I didn't feel like she was harboring any like a real ill will or resentment. Actually as somebody who's a page in Craig Stan and who likes them both really equally, like actually, I felt the episode again, I didn't watch it in its entirety. I actually felt at peace.

I'm like, you know what? I think we've all moved on. Like she had to answer all of these things. She did have to answer all the questions, but no, there were some shady moments. I watched the whole episode. Like when Andy asked her, what did you think about Kyle calling Greg a liar

and watching episode of his life? And she said, I think he hit the nail on the head. No, I know, but like she is, I also still didn't think that that was a crazy vindictive or like she had to answer and that's how she feels. And she didn't do it in like a, I don't know, her tone wasn't, the entire episode, I thought her tone was very like light.

Yeah, she kept it light, but like she's saying that he's a liar. She said, he asked what she thought about the Southern Charm reunion, cause Craig shared a lot about their relationship on the reunion, which I'm sure she'll answer the same questions they're filming Southern Summer House reunion today.

She said, I disagreed with all of it. I loved listening to it because I was like, what a fun story. So again, like big fat liar she's saying. Of course, like saying that Craig had said on Southern Charm reunion that he, she had mentioned getting married at BravoCon like in passing, like probably as a joke.

And she like was like, that never happened. Do you see my wedding invitation saying convention center? So it was like, I don't know, it was a little bit salty, like as you would expect. But- That's so funny, I really did not read it that way. I actually felt like enormous relief watching it. I'm like, you know what, like we're,

it looks like they're like, she's over it. Yeah, but then I'm like, you know what? Like, it looks like she's over it. Yeah, but then Andy was like, he said at the end, he was like, even though you broke up and like obviously blah, blah, blah, you guys have been saying nice things about each other. She was like, we have? And I guess like they have. I don't think that's a fair assessment.

Because even Andy had said, someone asked like, in hindsight, do you wish you chose Andrea over Craig? And she was like, no. No. Which is I guess a nice thing to say, but like that's ridiculous. That's a stupid fucking question. That's a bad question.

Yeah, plus like Andrea's married. No, and I actually don't think that they've been overly nice because I think it actually for like a second got pretty bad. But as far as breakups go and they both have to be on reality TV, they both have podcasts. Like, I don't know, I didn't think it was so bad.

Like I feel like we can all move on now. Like, we had to hear from Paige. Well, we'll hear from her again at the reunion and then it's over. And then if she says anything surprising, then maybe Craig will respond to that. But then it will be over after that. And he asked her what she thought about the new girl

and she said, I love it. I'm so happy for him. She said she was very happy. I mean, that's really when you've moved on. That was like when Wes said over the summer, like they asked, how would you feel if Sierra was hooking up with someone? And he was like, I would feel relieved.

Like, oh my God. That's called moved on. No, we're not even worried about him being moved on. Like he just wants to be out of her line of fire. Yeah, no, but like that's like, there's no pining or hoping that you're getting back together, like it would be a relief for them to be with someone else.

Well, and we know that, and that's why they broke up, and then Sierra saying, well, I still like him. That was devastating to hear. Yeah, yeah. Well, let's think of West, let's dive into the summer house recap. It was actually a great episode for people who fucking hate Jesse Solomon.

It was a great episode for Lexi. This whole time I was so worried about Lexi, oh my God, when she hears what Jesse has been doing, she's so head over heels for him. Like, and she leads with an open heart and I know she would do it again, but like, oh my God, she's just gonna be knocked off her socks. This girl is strong.

I didn't see that coming. It was a great episode for Amanda too, who like doesn't really move or shake much. And she's kind of like one of the girls who's most up Jesse Solomon's ass. I think she likes the attention he gives her more than the other girls. So to see her finally being like,

by the way, Jesse's kind of saying like rude things. Not rude, but things you shouldn't say about the girl that you're dating to us. I mean, she wasn't honest about how all the girls reacted and gassed him up. And I understand why he's mad. Because he's like, but you guys were agreeing with me. And now you're telling her I'm a traitor.

So I actually, I agree. His beef with the girls is totally valid, but it was nice to see somebody like actually stand up for Lexi. And I thought that, um, Jesse was just pissing me off so much. Like when Wes was like receiving this information that like, it's actually not what Jesse's making it seem like at all. And he's putting together like, yeah, in the car, he said he would call her in 10 minutes, but we're going to be at the house in 10 minutes. Like Jesse's gonna be at the house in 10 minutes. Like Jessie's kind of like the crazy obsessive one.

Which makes sense, like Lexi's very cool. She did in Brooklyn Beckham, like she stopped pining over Jessie Solomon. No, like she'll be okay if she doesn't talk to you for 10 minutes. Correct, and like how he's really kind of successfully manipulated the audience and the house into thinking that she's the crazy one.

He like went on this mission. Why? I don't know. Oh, I know why. I'm sorry. I know why. I meant to send this to you. I don't know if you saw, Lexi went on like a page six. I think it's like the virtual reality podcast.

And they asked like an innocuous question. And she was just like, I mean, I know that last season he was like a little, he had said to me and to others like he was like, but heard that like Wes, they came in together and Wes got like all the attention. And it was like, literally the whole season was about Wes and everyone was talking about it in the reunion. And obviously it wasn't good, but it's still attention,

right? And that's why you go on these shows. And that he felt like a little, his position was a little threatened and he was kind of jealous of the attention Wes was getting. So he's kind of like copying Wes. That's interesting and incredibly stupid if that's really what you're doing. Lame, lame.

Especially because like to come in in your first season and get all the love that Jesse did and like it's not controversial. That's like a great way to start. And like nobody wants to have the season that Wes had where it's like you're the biggest deal. Your sophomore season is so bad. It's like you, there's only, you can only go down.

So that really was his strategy and he was jealous of West like West should have been jealous of him Like we both came on the show like yeah have all the same opportunities and you're beloved and I'm hated Yeah, but I don't know maybe he wants to be in the New York Times But like seriously like yeah a real job like what is he chasing? No, and it's hard because we were talking last week with his Shabbat like I want to love him No, there are I'm just gonna I'm holding space for loving Jesse Solomon in certain moments and hating him in other moments and loving him like as a person.

And I see why the girls maybe are good friends with him because as a friend, maybe he's amazing. World's worst boyfriend. Yeah. And I just feel like I have to say as long as we're holding space for multiple things like when like his singing, like I actually butt clench, like I can't his music. He's always using his own songs on TikTok, like making TikToks. And I, cause baby I want you, like I can't. I actually-

We could fall in love. Like I literally know it. I don't mind it because I think it's like very- Enduring. Shameless and not in a bad way. Like just not embarrassed. Like he's been through, you know, a life and death scenario. If he wants to sing, he's gonna sing. And he doesn't have a bad voice bad way, just not embarrassed. He's been through a life and death scenario. If he wants to sing, he's gonna sing.

And he doesn't have a bad voice. No, and he has this platform. So it's like you making music. Because you can. Yeah, I know. But it's not the same. YOLO. It makes me cringe.

It's a YOLO thing and I will allow it. Also, I really appreciated that they brought up the Instagram comments thing again, because it was exactly like we said. Lexi was like, I never told him to stop, I just said like your tone should change a little bit, like you have a girlfriend now, so instead of saying like,

oh mamacita you look so sexy, you could be like, oh what a beautiful woman. Yeah, like, and I was so glad that she said that because that was one of the things that they, he tried to use against her, and all the other girls were like, she doesn't want you leaving comments. They were gassing him up and it's like, well, no, I didn't.

When we heard the extreme take from him, like his extreme POV, we're like, that's not even crazy. Like not only did she not say those things, but even if she had, like it wouldn't have been that crazy, but what she actually said was so watered down and he amped it up to make her look crazy and unsuccessfully to us. But I guess when you're in the summer house

and like everyone is a little immature, it seems crazy. I'm sorry, I'm just like kind of stuck on you comparing my music to Jesse Solomon's. Like, can we just go back there? That was really uncool. I meant it in a flattering way. I meant it in a flattering way. Like when you have a platform,

I mean you can do whatever you want and you can put out what you want and you've got a song in your heart. It's not the same and I would appreciate an apology. But that apologizing like would, like I'm sorry that- But I literally sat here and said like it made me cringe. I'm sorry and I'm also sorry.

Oh no, take that back. I'm sorry that I haven't articulated it in the way that is not offensive to you because it was actually a compliment. And you have that YOLO mentality. And you're like- Yeah, but I literally said like, it makes me cringe. And like, that's like when you did your music.

Well, it doesn't make me cringe, but okay, I'm sorry. Thank you. Now, another thing that's going on in the house is this whole Sierra, Jessie thing. And I'm not on a side there because I think they're both wrong. Jessie be like, oh, don't touch me. Shut up, what are you, three years old?

But Sierra not letting it go. As a self-proclaimed girls girl, you can think what you want, but just you making such a big thing of it and now we're all talking about you and Jesse, he has a girlfriend. Like I think she's handling it actually like really poorly. Yeah.

And even when he gave her a hug, they pulled up to the house and she makes it a whole thing. Like stop. Well, she said at the dinner with the girls, like he's dead to her now. That's so crazy. It's crazy.

I guess it is a little extreme. Like we could just, what if we just talked about it? Yeah, I also really like having Tom Schwartz around. Me too. What about Tom Schwartz and Lexi? She deserves better. Much. Yeah.

He's like, I think there was a point where he was once like an extremely like sought after, attracted Bravo Liberty. He's tired of I think there was a point where he was once like an extremely like sought after attractive Bravo Liberty and Sandy's clothes. Like he's kind of old. Like it's not the vibe. No, I agree. But in the context of summer house, when you forget like all of his crimes, yes, he's a real cutie and yes, I like him. I actually I'm going to give a compliment to Kyle Cook if that's okay. Oh, wow. You're really coming for me this summer house reunion. What?

I just wanted to like give a shout out on him, like spotlighting male fertility and infertility and getting your sperm tested. I thought that that was, I guess, a spotlight. I mean, no, and you know, like Amanda ordered the kit for him. Like he was just happened to be in the kitchen. Because in the next episode, she said she doesn't know if she wants kids. Okay. No, you're not allowed to give compliments. kitchen. Because in the next episode, she said she doesn't know if she wants kids. Okay, no, you're not allowed to give compliments to Kyle Cook. Sorry. And I guess like when Schwartz did it,

I didn't think it was like, it was anything interesting. I mean, the bar is in hell for Kyle Cook. It's true. But I thought that was just like funny. Oh, I didn't. I went to the bathroom. But nevermind. It was a great episode for Lexi, honestly.

And for the Lexi stand because she gets a lot of hate. She gets a lot of hate, but like, no, finally, like putting the pieces together and like her hearing what Jesse said, and then like actually hearing the truth and how like all week he's like upper butt and obsessed with her and like so clingy, so love bomby. And then goes and talks shit about her. Yes, precisely. That is what he does. And I love that she's like not,

she's not so head over heels that if it ended tomorrow, like she would be devastated. Like she may- No, they have painted a picture of Lexi up until this point that is completely inaccurate. Yeah, yeah. Both Jessie and the show, because even her confessionals, the confessionals are like, oh my gosh, like, no, not one moment of her expressing reservations

about him or yellow flags about him aside from the toe, which by the way, in the grand scheme of everything that he's done, like the toe, it doesn't even scratch the surface. I think it's even weirder. Like the toe isn't the weirdest part of that whole evening for me. It's the fact that he went into a room

where Emeril was having a threesome. Get out. Yeah, yes. Scram. Yeah, but like the toe was a mistake that happened drunkenly. He like, it was just a moment, you know, like. Mm-hmm, it's not a pattern.

Everything else is like a pattern of behavior. That's not just like, I will never do that again. No, and when they were fighting, he's such like an annoying fighter. You want me to be a robot? Oh my God. Hate, hate. Like, hate, that's just not,

that's like what someone with nothing left to say says. And so as somebody who has felt like all the girls have kind of left Lexi in the lurch up until recently, seeing them all huddled around her at the pool, actually giving her good advice and being on her side. I found that to be restorative. And like, I'm looking forward to that energy now. Yeah, I really hope they don't go back

to like shipping Sierra and Jessie though. Cause that was like, that was the worst possible next move for Sierra. For Sierra, yes. Like has she learned nothing, Austin West? Jessie is actually officially, as a boyfriend, worse than West. Yep.

West. And if she goes with Jessie next, and it's like in real time, it sounds like they're like something. I know, they were together at Coachella. Paige said they were just both happened to be at Coachella. It's like different brands and stuff, and so they're friends, so they saw each other.

But Lexi said she had a birthday party and she invited the entire cast, and only Jessie and Sierra didn't come, Paige said they were just both happened to be at Coachella. It's like different brands and stuff. And so they're friends. So they saw each other. But Lexi said she had a birthday party and she invited the entire cast and only Jessie and Sierra didn't come. And then they were together that night, boycotting her party together. And I just want to say like, if Sierra and Jessie get together,

like she will have none of my sympathy. Cause I've been so right or wrong. Her versus Wes, her versus Austin. I was so against Lindsay. Like I was so team Sierra. Fool me once, fool me twice. Shame on you. I don't know him, but apparently he's the same.

Oh, Luke, I didn't watch that season. Yeah, I'm out. Like you will no longer have my sympathies. What about Carl? Oh, he's, I mean, the word that comes to mind time and time again is just pathetic. Like when they show that clip, I have a crush on you. Okay, and his tan line porn.

Like. That was the funniest conversation. No, Wes is so funny. I'm sorry. He's a perfect reality star. Like you don't have to love him, but he's brilliant. Slowly, he's like chipped away at all the anger that I had towards him.

I'm totally fine with him. He is a great reality star. And I texted you this, but I just want to put it out into the world that I had towards him. I'm totally fine with him. He is a great reality star. And I texted you this, but I just want to put it out into the world that I think Brianna Chicken Fry should be on the next season of Summer House. She would be the perfect cast. Absolutely.

Absolutely. Perfect. Because she's like, she's got her own world, like how so many of the other people who have come on like have an influencer thing going. And she's so single. She like hooked up with West, I think.

Shh. Yep. They have like a history. But she's coming for Wes, she has huge personality. No, and I do think, I don't know what the future of Summer House looks like for Lindsay, I don't know if it's gonna be like this forever. And unfortunately, because as much as I love her, but she's made really no inroads with any

of the other girls, I sometimes forget that she's there. Gabby, like I think her time is up. If Lindsay goes, then Gabby will probably go. But like the thing about Gabby, it's like, she doesn't take away from anything. Like I like when she's there and she always has like a good piece of advice or like just as a good shoulder or a listener.

So like I hope, I just hope there's enough- She's a sound and bind individual. I hope there's enough beds to accommodate Gabbyby even as we continue to beef up the I know because when Paige Sierra and Amanda came down in their matching outfits and like Gabby was in the kitchen by herself like dressed as something else entirely like I actually felt I felt really Bad for her. Yeah, but also so is Gabby Lindsey and Lexi who were like say dress together. No, I know but like they were just like she was only one in the kitchen Yeah, I understand. I was like, is this awkward? I thought that too. I was like, okay I'm glad it's just a little like clicky But yeah click and they're best friends and this is their party and it's their bed thing like duh

So it's not like right, but it's a little clicky. Yeah, but they're click, so they're gonna be clicky. Click's gonna click. Normalize having a click. Okay, sorry, I have a good group of friends. Sorry, we're so close, and you're not as close. And sorry we're way cooler than you. And we have matching outfits, and we have love and inside jokes. So much fun.

We're not doing it to hurt you, it just hurts you. I mean, history. Yeah. You can try Sears. It's just unfortunate, you know? Cause it's not something that's like born of ill intention, but it hurts people. Right. And people like to center themselves being like,

you guys are in a clique. And it's like, well, yeah, we are. What that has to do with you. I'm not sure. Cause you're not in it. Do you know what I mean? I feel like that was like, like the core like of all your high school drama was like,

you guys are being clicky, they're a click. And it's like, well, yes, sure. Objection, like who are you? Yeah, no, it's like we like each other. Is that a crime? And we don't like you. Like change. Right, so what, you're gonna be mad.

You're gonna force us to like you? No, and it's like either change. Not that that's what's happening with Gabby. We've moved on, but like. Just the concept of. I actually think they happening with Gabby. We've moved on but like just the I actually do like Gabby the concept of clicks Yeah, it's called like having a comfort group of people like what's wrong with that? No, it's not it just like it could hurt someone's feelings and I guess if that person had their own click

Which I feel though as though maybe if you had a click that you were passionate about you would know what it's like But you don't so I would say if you find yourself on the outside of a click and that's hurting you, go start your own click. Spending your energy- And go hurt someone else. Yeah. If you find yourself on the outside of a click,

spending your energy trying to penetrate that click and make them understand you is a waste. Go find other click-less people and start your own. Yeah. Click of losers. Yeah. But they don't, we don't have to know that's how you guys came together. No, the origins of your click are totally yours

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