The Toast - Yolito Wesmandoval: Wednesday, May 27th, 2026

Episode Date: May 27, 2026

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It's Jackson, Claude and neighbor show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Wednesday, or should I say, happy day after the Summer House reunion. Part one. Part one. I guess we have three weeks of this sort of Wednesday. Thank God it was getting a little dry.

We had so many highs of like, you know, The Secret Lives and Mormon Wives drama and The Bachelor scandal. Then we had Summer House Scamandible. And then it was like kind of like dry. No, we're back. a moment to collect ourselves. Absolutely. And really time heals all. So I do enjoy like having some breaks in between to process, you know, to to accept the new reality. I have to tell you something so funny. So our sister Olivia was telling me like she's so funny. She was telling me that she was like watching Ari Leinke's Instagram and then he had these like really nice outdoor lounge chairs and she was

thinking back at him. She was like influenced by Ari Lein Deck. He makes an amazing content. I was trying to tell you that last week. So she was cracking me up and I'll I was like, I have to go see these lounge chairs. And I ended up on a fucking rabbit hole of the Linedike family. And then they're making this video. And it's like the full house theme song introducing mom. Yeah. Dad, Alessie.

I was like, oh my God, it's baby Lazy. Yeah. First of all, he has a 3D printer, Ari Linedike. And he makes like everything for his house. He was like, Lauren has been doing her makeup. And like her makeup's just like all over the vanity. And it's like bothering her. So he 3D printed like this organizer for her lips.

the exact size of her foundation. He's kind of one of the most amazing influencers. No, he is. He's so handy. He made her a chicken coop. He built, oh, he builds like everything. Like, what we talk about how, oh, I wish I had a husband that's like, oh, I want a reading bench.

Like, build me a reading. Look, he does it and he like makes content from it. And like, Jared Highbun. Jackie, oh, my God. Like, I'm seriously freaking out. I was thinking of the same. Jared Hybond could learn something from him. When I was watching his videos, I was like, oh, my God, you're freaking me out.

I was like, literally. really Jared Hyman could never. And it's like, this is the exact thing that Ashley's talking about. You just applied yourself? No, it's like find your passion and then do it on social media. You can do. There's something for everything on social media. So like find what you love.

Even if it's like making new coffee blends for Jared. Like make content about it because you have a million fucking followers. Absolutely. I thought this same thing because he's definitely like a niche creator that Ari Linedike. And I wonder. Not for me. He's like my main. And I follow Lauren.

I saw that you followed Lauren. So I was just like. You should follow her. You would love her. She has really good new mama energy. Oh, okay. I will follow her. I really, oh my God, I'm cracking up. So I just couldn't believe I was saying Baby Alessi's all grown up. Yeah. I'm not calling her. Sorry, I don't want to call her Baby Alessie.

She's like, she's like toddler or lessee. Yeah, they have interesting names for their kids. Lux was one of them. They have twins. Do they? Mm-hmm. Two of them are, I think is Sienna and Lux. We're freaks. Um, but yeah, I'm just, um, wait, Howard Lounge shares, where were they from? Oh, it was sponsored. Where were they from? Let me tell you so I could just close the loop. They were really nice. The way he set the mom. up like it was of course you know Lauren went out for the day so when she comes home like she needs a new backyard if only Ben would make me a new backyard um Arline Dyke okay let me say like if only like Ben is the perfect husband except that he doesn't know how to like be handy and like use drills or build

backyards you know yeah he also built himself a tool shed for all of his tools oh I love that and then he like filmed that made content from it Jared Polywood Polywood do you know that company yeah P-O-L-Y-W-O-O-O-O-D P-O-I-W-I would. Yeah, okay, so hold on. Here's the big reveal. Oh, I think I saw this video. Oh, yeah.

He's setting it up. I saw this video, but, oh, I did see this video. At first I was like, oh, they are really nice. And they have storage underneath. Oh, do they? I feel like they do. Cushions. I'm obsessed.

Like, he's literally my favorite. Oh, they have built in umbrella stands. That's insane. Yeah. So, Levia was right. These are amazing. She should get them. Absolutely.

I could go for new lounge chairs too. Oh, my God, cracking up. So I spent like, I was in a line. Do you follow? So you give a follow? Oh, you know what? I should. Like the content is premium and people deserve to be rewarded.

So let me follow both of them right now. But I literally, we were having this conversation last week privately. I don't know why the line eggs came up. And I was like, no, they have such a nice, like family. They make such cute content. Like they're really, I love following them. They're so great. Well, out of the list of things you were telling me about four, but I had to experience

for myself. Yeah, but this was a really short turnaround time. So that's fine. I'm getting better. And I had to be Olivia. Yolito. Yolito. We tell everybody about Yolito.

Yeah. Our sister Olivia is just. really one of a kind, you know? Don't you feel like there's nobody else like? No, there's not. Were we playing mahjong? I think we were playing mahjong and you like were about to make a call or something. No, I told you guys about Ruby's belly button.

Oh. I was like, how do you guys clean your kids' belly buttons? Like, because I saw some like, some dirt. And you were like, it's fine. Like he gets a bath every day. It'll like figure itself out. Olivia's like, yeah, Yolito. And she was saying Yolo, which she does say a lot.

She loves YOLM. She's so chuggy like that. She's sort of like the way that we. would say like totally or 100% she says yolo at the end of every sentence yolo i feel like she kind of uses it like we use parji yeah no or or 100% like as an agreeable term yes she's an agreeable yolo and so she's made it a little latin she said yolito yolyto it's a little bit of yolo like that is seriously the funniest thing and honestly yolito no and like if you don't stop and notice like stop and smell the flowers with her like you'll miss these moments because

the thing about jacky is that when olivia said yolito like yeah that's my sister she says stuff like that I didn't even notice it. And you then stopped the conversation and you said, wait, Ruby's belly button is dirty. Yolito. And I was like, Yolito. I wouldn't have noticed it, but you stopped you stopped your point out. And that's really the magic of Olivia. Like, you have to stop and smell her roses.

It's really, really true. Yolito. And that's what I can do is I can surface great content. Yeah. Just like the place looks great. Yeah. It always does. Just like the lined eggs.

Just, oh, I can surface the line dikes content. So last night was Summerhouse and in the city. I did watch the first 20 minutes of In the City. but honestly like the high, it was like an emotional high watching Summerhouse. And Ben was locked the fucking. It's funny. Everyone was watching. Like our sister Margo was watching.

She never watches Bravo people who it's really like Sandoval. Scandival. Scandival. Scandival. Where like people from different universes are joining us. Ben was so locked in. By the way, like I was thinking about it. What do you think is like the name that the culture has landed on?

We call it Scamandaval, but I think everybody calls it Scamanda. I call it West Mandeval. And I feel like that is appropriate. Scamanda does not work for me at all. Yeah. It also wasn't a scam. It was a betrayal. So it would be like betray.

And also that there's no onus on West in that situation. That's why West Mandeval is perfect. But the funny part is the Andevall. Of course. Because that's just Sandoval. There's no, there's no scandal in West Mandeval. Yeah, but the Oval implies the scandal. And the bravo.

Like, it's actually hysterical. He is his own term now. So our first story will be like the full summer house recap. Because that's what everybody's here to do today. As are we. I was like co-sleeping my way through life last night. Summer House reunion. No, no, no, no. And, like, I had to, so I have to, like, put the kids in my bed and go to sleep with them. And then we transfer them. But it's like, sometimes I do fall asleep with

them. Of course, you're only human. But I'm like, I have to watch the summer house reunion. This is like our Super Bowl. Like, if I came here today and I hadn't watched it, like, what would we be doing? You know, one time I saw Lauren Elizabeth doing the craziest thing ever, but the more I think about it, the more kind of genius it was. I never knew that. Lauren Elizabeth is ahead of her time. She is ready for this. She is an Apple TV, like, in her bedroom. And by the way, this is before she came a mom. So I don't know why she was doing it. But She connected her AirPods to her TV. Yes, I saw she did that once.

That's, like, kind of brilliant. Like, if your kids are sleeping, the light of the TV might not wake them up, but the sound will. So if you could connect your AirPods, it's not kind of like, it takes around sound. No, it's brilliant, especially, like, if you have a newborn or something. However, I don't use AirPods anymore. And if you are having a newborn, you shouldn't use them around them. If you care about such things, just watch TV, you know. Yeah, right.

Just watch the other. Also, newborns will sleep through anything. I need a cord connecting all the way. All the way. They definitely sell that on Amazon. Like a hundred foot head phone. What else can we talk about before we talk about like the thing, you know? Yeah.

Oh, we had a fun day yesterday. We mahjonged and then we went to the mall. Oh, we did go to the mall. We bought out the entire children's floor of Macy's. Shout out to Macy's. Those were some killer deals. Yeah, I don't know how many deals I got because I did drop. Well, yeah, you did drop four figures.

But on like a whole new year. year-long wardrobe for your three kids. Yeah. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. Yeah, I love the mall. I know. We really, like, did it well yesterday, too.

Like, we mauled with purpose. It's such a suburban, like, and I feel like I was talking about this when I went on, or when Susie Wife came on the podcast, that like malls are back and they're really good for Gen Z because it's like offline. I, like, things that seem so obvious. Like to us, when I see like a bunch of girls, like walking through the mall with Victoria's Secret Shopping bags, I'm like, you guys didn't even know how good your life is. Like, that's the best part of your life.

And I saw a lot of teenagers. yesterday. It was very encouraging. Yeah. I agree. Just drop them off at the mall. Yeah. Maybe don't drop them off, like, wait outside or something. But, you know. Yeah, malls, depending on how old they are. You know, stay back like 100 feet. You know, eyes in the back of your head. But it was so mawley. Like, the kids were at, like, Eritzia. Yeah. And we were definitely, like, at the after school, like, oh, timing. Yeah. And we got ice cream. It was just,

like, so mall. Yeah. No, it was really cute. It wasn't ice cream. It was like that dairy-free. Like freeze. Yeah. But it was great for the kids. Yeah. For me, not going to cut it. They did also have a hog and that was. Yeah. Yeah, like it wasn't for, it was literally couldn't have dreamed of a better snack for the kids because they thought they had ice cream, but they really just had like some dairy free ice cream. Where? It said dairy free? Yes. Okay.

Like, that's insane. Like, go have a pizza or something. Like something else. If you're dairy free, you can't have. Well, yes. No, for me, like, I don't know what really box checks. But like for the children, it was great. It was like no sugar alcohols.

No artificial flavors. No nothing. It was literally just like flavored. ice that looks like ice cream thank you flavored ice yeah it was like a snow cone thank you um what else what else i'm just like trying not to save my summer house thoughts but i guess like we could we could get into it i don't see why not the pffg was like so thin i know but like that's because we have to get into things you know i had a weird lunch yesterday i feel like there was some sort of mix up in the kitchen i have my lunch yeah i was there yeah like i had a burrito bowl which i love and i got chicken on it i'm when it came like

You just said that, like, I pick Clark. I do. I pick Clark. I got chicken. I pick Clark. She got chicken. I actually really realized I don't want to tell my lunch story. Like, try being an influence of her a day.

Yeah. I actually want to, not only do I want to get into Summer House, but the rest of the stories, like, are fucking hysterical. Really? Like, they're so random in a good way. In a good way. And I want to get into everything. So without further, a do-da-do-do.

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And you can also watch the full video episodes on YouTube. That's Serialessly S-E-R-I-A-L-U-S-L-Y with Annie Elise. Thank you, Turtalease. My pleasure. our first story summer house reunion recap part one biggest bombshells and such so i did appreciate the layout right because we didn't actually get like everyone seated till a 17 minute mark and i was like damn that's annoying because we're just like missing out no no but the way that they brought us in like i really appreciated you know what it reminded me of when lindsie and kyle were like on the couch

they found out in concessions oh like kim and chloe yes with who was that um jordan and tristan it was very meta i thought it was well done and it is interesting how they all called each other. I do believe that like they are really close off camera, which makes this whole situation. And I feel like Jesse Solomon's like getting a lot of shit for crying. But I know what he's saying. Like we had this great friend group and like now it's ruined. No, I know. Jesse Solomon breaks my heart. He's like he's a devastating character. I feel like he needs to date Margo and become a part of our family. Because we'll lift him up. I feel like he needs us. Did you feel that way? I was jamming with him last night. He was loving my coverage on my Instagram

stories. So like Jesse, reach out. Yeah. Like I feel like he needs the brothers. Yeah, he needs like ours or ruach. Yeah, he does. I really feel like he does. And I think him and Margaret would get along, even though I was sort of getting vibes last night for Jesse and Mia. Anyone?

I just fucking love that, Mia. And I'm so glad they had a moment to be like, you're an amazing addition. I didn't realize how close her and Sierra were. Like they live in the same building. And I love that. I think like both of them need each other. And it's a great friendship.

And she's doing a really good job of like supporting Sierra without like, you know, making it about her without also going too far. And like that's sort of what happened with Scandaval. And I don't want to get there. I feel like we like the very last

thing Sierra said in the last night's episode, like, was really mean. And I just don't want to get to that place where, like, Amanda's the victim. Yeah. And so you do have to be really cautious, because I do think that, at least for me, like, Ariana was so mean to Raquel. At least Raquel was sympathetic. Like, she was sorry. Amanda's, like, not sorry. So she's hard to feel bad for. But, like, it got to a place where I was like, oh, my God, what's the next thing? You guys are going to tell this girl to kill herself. Like, yeah. It was such a pile on. So you do have to be really careful. Yes, you do. And also, last night I was realizing, there's so, I go through phases of being, like this is the biggest deal ever.

And then also like, no, everyone was single, you know? And it's like, I can understand why like Amanda like thought this, it was okay to like sort of process her feelings, like, and even entertain this idea. Whereas like, Scandafal was an affair. Yeah. On a 10 years long relationship sleeping in her bed when her grandmother said, like, it was so scandalous. And when Wes said this isn't a sex scandal, like I actually understood what he meant.

It's just like two like softies, immature. people who are like having feelings for each other like a couple of middle schoolers. Yeah, that was his, I feel like their approach was like to really downplay it. It's not a big deal. It's a good approach. It is. It is. But at the end of the day, it really dismisses like how hurt so many people are.

Everyone is finding a way to make this about themselves. But like I do feel like everybody is not really, it's not really a stretch of the truth. Like Jesse Solomon is devastated, even though he wasn't betrayed, you know, but he was, the way that they just lied to everyone straight to their face. Like, and at what I can understand. you're in a bad spot. Yeah. We like each other

and we don't know how to go about it. There are no way that they went about it would have ended in everyone loving them and it all working out. But there are better ways to go about it than what they, like lying is the worst way. Yeah. And to everyone.

What they really should have done was like shelved their feelings. Yeah, for a while. Until this summer. And like let us watch them fall in love. And maybe, maybe we could root for them. Yeah. And let us watch her tell. selling Sierra, like I'm having feelings for West.

I don't know what to do. I love you so much. You're my best friend, but like, you know, this is how I feel. And like, let us decide. It was weird that like when Andy, when, first of all, like, I just feel awkward around West and Amanda. Like, they're just miserable. And seeing them, like, we never saw them together as a couple. Yeah. And like, when he just walks in, like, if they're just like sitting there lying on each other, like, I ask. As a couple, like, we never, like, I know we've heard about West Amanda. Yeah. But we never

saw it before. It's not cute. We've only seen her with one partner over 10 years and someone who she didn't even like like it's actually and we never see him because god forbid he's someone's boyfriend it actually was like a shock comfortable to see the two of them together they're so obsessed with the timeline like that's really all that they care because i guess and i guess they want to make clear that it wasn't an affair and then things really didn't get physical for a while it's actually they said that they didn't have sex until after the statement i thought that was so crazy you put out a statement and you ruined your life for such a let's say that that that's true like how do you really even know that you liked each other. You're basically saying like you kissed and then wrote a

statement. Well, I think that they have been like fighting their feelings for months. Yeah, the thing is. And like having intimate moments, maybe kissing like knowing we shouldn't. We should, you know, we're forbidden love for months. And then they put out the statement. They felt free like they did what they needed to do and they stopped lying and then they could really consummate their relationship. Yeah. Kind of room. Well, the thing is, no, if you, if they had handled this in any other Like there is an argument to be made that it's like seriously like star cross lovers. Like it could be romantic. But now it's if they look like they have like survivors guilt and they're just like clinging to one another for reasons I genuinely don't understand.

Yes. If done correctly, which is borderline impossible to do. Borderline impossible. I could see like a group of the fandom like rooting for it being like convenient, but it's their truth. Yes. But now because they did it so dirty like lying like to Jesse Solomon. And I'm glad that you. Sierra asked explicit, holding hands, kissing this.

And she says correct. Because you could say we're not hooking up because they were not hooking up. A couple smooches and emotional love story. We're not hooking up. When she's asked point blank. And we know that at that point Sierra already knew because she had seen a video. And that's why she texted Amanda being like, so there's not any photos or videos of it. And also people are like, I think they sub together first because a man, because Sierra saw a video of them like hooking up.

But they were probably just making out on the couch. They probably, they weren't, it wasn't a sex tape. I don't think so. Probably making out on the couch. for the bet, like making out. No, I know that they have to like talk about other things in the season because it's only part one. And I'm sure part three will be dedicated to this completely.

But I appreciated that we got like a chunk in the beginning. And I was ready to like seriously like start scrolling on my phone going to sleep when they started talking about like shit that happened over the summer. But I was sat the fuck down for Bailey v. Ben. Like I don't know. I didn't like I didn't know any of this was like bubbling under the service. But you know what? She was raising a couple of good points.

And it's like yeah, you are like up all the guys his ass. But you love to like come after the women. Yeah. And you know what? Even though it was really. fucking weird what Amanda said being like Ben wants to have sex. And he went really hard. He really enjoyed dressing her down.

Yeah. And you could tell he was almost like fighting the urge not to continue yelling at Bailey as she's calling him out for yelling at girl. You know what? Slay mama. No. And even then they cut to that scene with Sabrina where he's like, how are we going to get our fucking kids to school?

And it's like in a different light that like seems like funny. But it actually is like just very harsh. It's a harsh way. You're already criticizing her as a mother. She's your girlfriend for two months. And like you're late like to go out to a bar. Like it's a bar. It'll still be there in five minutes.

Yeah. And I never. thought anything of him. Me neither. Red flag, green flag, no flag. Now I hate him. Now I'm like, she's really onto something. Yeah. I feel like she like clocked him. Yeah. Everybody else did because there was so much going on this summer. Of course Levi Krivai did as well. That's my queen right there.

I just want to say them bringing in Levi before bringing in Dara who's like dating one of the cast members. We need to talk about Dara and KJ because like there's been, have you seen what the other cast members I've been saying about them? Like I saw a clip of Levi a couple weeks ago doing like virtual reality. Okay. And not Levi like actually starting stuff once the season's over. And she said, she was asked about KJ and Dara because I guess like other people had like said some things. Oh sorry, I just want to say Bailey bringing up that he thinks that Sabrina and Ben

were dating the entire time, which is like a very common theory on the internet. Like yes, thank you for bringing that up. Yeah. And that's the only reason why he flipped about Amanda because of his girlfriend back home. And now it all makes sense, but don't try and lie to us. I don't care that you. Honestly, if he was dating her pretending not to see, be on the show, I really don't care. But if it affected the way you treated Bailey, who's like actually the sweetest, most

innocent, harmless person on this cast. She is. She's very harmless. And that's who you decide to take your eye or out on. No. Okay, go back to Levi. So Levi, she was asked about Dara and KJ and apparently other people had like cast sense and things about their relationship and so she said something. Saying what? Like doubting that they're real or like? She is real about him, doubting that. And she said something to that effect. Like I think he's in it, but she's not. Oh my God. Yeah. And it's like they did KJ's package where he shared a lot about like his mental health struggles and his anxiety. And are we coming back to KJ and Dara or was that it on KJ?

No, of course. Once Dara gets seated. Is Dara at the reunion? She has to take Levi's spot at some point. She got dressed. She got dressed. People saw a picture of her. Okay. I also want to say, I really, like. I just want to say Levi just always makes me smile. I don't know if it's because she has the same name as my nephew. That is why. But like, I love her. She was doing a good job at the reunion. Like, where was all of this energy? I don't know. I saw a tweet a while ago that was like during the same. season that was like maybe only Bailey can see Levi. That's our imaginary friend. Totally.

Back to KJ really quickly. You know what? We'll ask her when she comes on namesake. Where the energy was. When he was talking about like how he's actively like struggling with self-harm, that was really sad. I do feel like he should leave the show. Like reality TV, people don't talk about like how reality TV like will lead you to that place.

And I know you're supposed to like do all these like psych abouts before going on TV. And they're all fake or whatever. But like I actually really. worry, especially this show. Like Bravo has really fucking crazy. And he's sort of ancillary and he's on the right side of history. No, and he had a good season and so there's nothing negative to say about him. But you know, everybody has highs and lows and like if KJ ended up in a situation

where like Amanda's in right now? Not even to that degree. Like anywhere. Right. Like West. West had a bad season. His bed reunion and, you know, you get a lot of hate for that. Everyone gets love and hate.

Kyle. Yeah. Even Jesse who came on the show as the happiest man alive. Yeah. Who's leaving the show, the saddest man alive. So sad. And he came on happy. And he's not done anything, except for Lexi, which no one seems to care about except for us.

He's not even done anything so controversial. And he gets a ton of hate. So like hate just comes with the show, even if you don't do anything wrong. And some fandoms have like varying degrees of like zealousness. And Bravo and Summerhouse in particular is like really emphatic. So I appreciated his transparency. But it did make me really worried that like this is his job. And people seem to like him.

And I think we'll get another season. And it's like, honestly, I would get out while you can relatively unsubriced. skate. I agree. Like I it made me sad because he's in a bad environment. Like that's not where you want to be when you're struggling with your mental health. Yeah. And he was in the best possible situation. Right. This season. And it's still really hard. Yeah. Yeah. So that made me a little bit worried. Um, but we have to go back to Dara because people are casting doubts on like her intentions with him. But like she's just like into fame. You think so? That's what I had heard just because she's a TikToker. Like well I, well, it seems like the cast members like to like no. Normally is being into

No, every, no, you came on the show and you're not into fame. Everyone's sitting on the couch. It's just like an unfortunate side effect. I know, I hate it. I'm on TV. Stop. So like you go on the show to be famous. That's not a bad thing.

But if she were into fame, you think she would go for like the newest, least famous guy? But also getting into a relationship, like kind of makes you boring. It doesn't give you a guaranteed next season. I don't think it's about the fame, but they seem to, maybe they'll get into why the people are alluding to that. But yeah, I thought there were a couple times over the summer where like she just like, I thought he was like, there was one time where he, like, was moody or something about something

someone had told him that she was in the room with Ben and he was like being kind of like, standoffish to her and she like didn't even care. And I'm like, like, she was just like, just being so chipper on him. Like, but I don't, that's not a good feeling. Right. And the couple times she's like doing her makeup and stuff and like I felt like he was getting her nothing. And like she doesn't care. Right. She's there. Right. Maybe they have like a really deep off camera. At first I thought she was like so patient and like, but maybe it's just like, oh, I don't care if you're nice or mean to me. I'm here. Yeah, but they're still together. Yeah, I know.

So like that's a really, it's a Nicarandria status. Like, I don't think it's Nicolandria. I don't, I just want to hear from her because like now there's like, she definitely confuses me. Like she didn't like open up that much. So it's hard to know what her intentions are. So it's easy to come up with theories. And she's in for fame.

She doesn't like it. But it's like, well, why don't you just like tell us who you are a little bit and like let us get to know you? She like came in late and got into a relationship. So I feel like that doesn't lend itself to like letting everyone get to know you in the house on an audience. So yeah, I would, I do look forward to hearing. Like Levi get up.

Yeah. Like the fact that they let Levi come to the reunion in general was extremely generous. She's literally the emerald of last season. Stop. Was Emeril last season? Oh my God, I forgot about Emerald. Like seriously, where in the world is Emerald? I don't know.

Let's get back to West Mandible. So we haven't even scratched the surface. So let's talk about everybody's looks, first of all. I do want to say, like, it is painful how amazing Amanda looked. No, she looks amazing. Her face, her dress, the vibe that she's exuding is very relaxed. is a real contrast to the actions that she has displayed, and it is disarming. It is.

Because she's dressed as a sweetheart, the sweetest lady. And I don't know who dressed her and if there was a lot of thought that went behind the look. But like, if there was, they nailed it. She's hard to hate in that outfit. Absolutely. And West said three words. Yeah. He looks terrible.

He looks terrible. He looks like he got no sleep. Brush your hair. He obviously doesn't know about the grandma yet. His suit is like so ill-fitting and huge. Yeah. And then his nudes were leaked that morning. Everyone else had seen it, but he hadn't seen it yet.

I think he thought Jesse was joking when Jesse was like, yeah, I've seen it. He's like, really? So weird. But his phone was hacked. That's how they got the nudes. These were three nudes he sent that someone then circulated. Yeah, it's hard to know like when you send nudes how they get out. Yeah.

Unless you took that picture because it did look like you said like to your doctor, clinical. Like maybe. No, I think he had said they were like Snapchat's from his old apartment or whatever. Well, Snapchat's like, that does not mean your phone gets hacked. No, but maybe he just saw, oh, my nudes are out. He assumed he got hacked and then he's piecing together the story. But, like, it's crazy that other people knew before him. And that's just a lot.

Yeah. Like, that's an insane thing. Like, any other day, we'd be like, wait, your news release, that's a horrible thing. When Andy was making the rounds to everybody in the dressing room and he asked Sierra how she was doing and she cried, like, before she even spoke. I was like, oh, like, I really want her to go out. And she could be devastated, but, like, don't cry in front of them because it's like, it shows weakness. and I was worried that like she wouldn't be able to say one word without crying because literally, she was, like, she broke completely.

She was crying before she even went out on stage. And I will say, like, I do respect hard how, and I don't know if it's just a facade, but she is not crying. Like, she hasn't even quivered in any of her words, which is so hard to do. And I'm glad. I was worried that she was going to be like, and you wear my feelings. And that's not, that's not how you want to come off. No, and that's not how she is, like, external, like, you know, she said, like, she

has these walls up. She's actually very, like, soft and sensitive. Right. So we know that that's how she's feeling, but then she's able to, like, execute. And she, like, came out, like, from the first question. I can't believe she's still crying over him. I know. And, oh, but I do think she's crying over Amanda now. Yes, both. But it's also, it's a good question. Like, who do you feel more hurt by it? And she thought about it for a second. And she said Amanda, which I agree with it. But it is objectively Amanda. Of course. Even if, even if she felt like it was wise. It is Amanda. Yeah. You know, that's the only right answer. Yeah. Um, because. Um, um, because. Um, um, because. Um, West has told you who he is numerous times.

She has lied about who she is, girls' girl. Right. The last girl's girl on the planet. Then they addressed what happened between West and Sierra after summer ended. So yeah, I guess he, like, called it off saying, like, I don't want to do this because I can't be what you need, but they did also sleep together two times. They had two sleepovers.

They did not have sex, it sounded like. Oh, okay. Because he knew that sex is important to her. So then what Lindsay said, it's like, okay, so you're having. having this like, you know, banter flirtiness, you're kissing, you're having sleepovers. That's actually more intense than just having sex with someone. So like you still think you're doing the right thing by engaging in all of this, but you're actually making it worse again.

It was a good point. And what I don't understand is like why he at that time like insisted I can do a relationship. But then in January, February, he was exclusive with me, huh? I hate it. And now he's in a relationship with a man. Amanda, and that's maybe by default. Yes, I don't think, like, him being exclusive to Amanda right now is, like, proof that he can be exclusive and that he wants to be. Like, he seriously has no choice.

He would, he would look like the worst person in the world if he was still seeing other people. He has to commit to this for a little while, like, honestly, for as long as he can. Yeah. Maybe it's real. And the only, of course, like, much like Raquel and Tom, like the only way out of this is, like, you have to get married and have babies. And then, like, it would all have been okay. because like that's your person. But this is most likely not each other's person.

Well, I mean, Sierra. I'm going to Cal and Tom weren't. Sierra said something very harsh at the end, which is that actually this might work out because you are like this weak mute figure that he needs so that he could be the start in the relationship and nobody's challenging him on anything. And it was really hard to hear because of Amanda's face when she said it.

It was really, it was really harsh. It was cutting. Yeah, because it was so true. Ever? Not untrue. And it doesn't even have to be in such like a nasty, like, just the facts of it. Like maybe their, maybe their personalities are right for each other because she is easygoing. And she does have this like long track record of letting a man really walk all over her.

A nice euphemism for a dormat. Yeah. And like behave poorly. Like you don't, she doesn't hold her men to extremely high standards. So having a boyfriend who like sucks kind of works for her. Yeah. And he can like still do what he's doing. I mean, because he's Kyle again.

Correct. I felt bad for Kyle I did too he barely spoke No and like his P OV He doesn't want to pile on Is so interesting Because like he doesn't want to take her To task

He feels bad for her He feels bad for her He feels bad for he still loves her His leading feeling He's like wanting to protect Amanda Not want to like get truth Or hold accountability Like he just does not want to add on to Amanda

I think like all of his ire is directed Towards West Yeah Because like That's his friend That's his friend And I think he's also jealous of him I think he would want to be with Amanda

Well yes but also like West is everything Kyle was when the show started, right? Like the cool, young, hot, like everyone. No, but like Kyle would take Amanda back in one second. No, but that's insane because they were the two most miserable people for 10 years. Worst marriage ever. But he like, like Tom Schwartz wasn't taking Katie back in a second. Right, right.

Like it's crazy that he really deeply loves her and that he's loved her all this time. And that's how he showed it by DJing. It's the equivalent of Ariana taking Tom back. Yeah. But Arianna had no love for Tom. Yeah, which was so fun to watch because he's the devil. But this is sad. That's why this is like shocking that he, like,

that his feelings are still so wrapped up in his marriage while, even while he was in his marriage, he was not there. Yeah. But you're telling me that's the person that you love, you want to go back to that. No, but like, no,

but you're saying like, that was love for you? Well, it's sort of like when you're like an abused person and you're only used to this sort of behavior, you think that's how they exhibit love. I mean, Kyle hasn't been in a normal relationship in 15 years.

He doesn't know. No. I'm saying, like, he wasn't a good husband. Mm-hmm. but he did love her. I thought he was a bad husband because he didn't love her. He's a better husband to her divorce than together.

He has seriously protected her this whole time. Did he say one word on the reunion last night? If he did, it was not directed towards her. And he did sort of stand up for her at the end towards Sierra. Like he's kind of like a loyal steadfast partner. Yeah. From afar. Yeah.

Yeah. Maybe this is sort of like what Kyle and Amanda needed. To get back together. No, no, they cannot. She doesn't like him as the problem. Correct. Also, we didn't talk about Lindsay Hubbard, who really just slayed the house down. I just love her.

Yeah. I just love her. She was unnecessary. What do you think about a world in which Lindsay and Carl get back together? It's crossed my mind because the love and admiration he has for her. But she would just eat him for breakfast. I know. They were never a good match for that reason.

But when he was like a little, like he's become like more and more stable. Yeah. Yeah. As he opened soft bar. Like he's just a big softie. When he started. Summer House. He was obviously very hard. Hard drugs. Hard this, hard that.

So he's trended towards soft and she does need someone harder. So since they've broken up, he's gotten even softer more hugs, more ideas, more feelings, more dreams. Hard bar. It was funny. And she's gotten so hard. Like she's going hard in the paint. Yeah, but they've become sort of like opposite versions of what, like she was like this softie who wanted to be taken care of by an alpha male. And now she is the alpha male. And like he's sort of leading into his like soft era so it's like okay no they're kind of like perfect for each other

i think i still like carlin and bailey but i do want to say like his reluctance to go there with her makes me hate him like she's so open she's so lovely he could do so much worse like and he was like i definitely have feelings but i love the friendship that we're basically just like friends on her these people in their friendships yeah it's like you're grown-ass people you're a 41-year-old with a 31-year-old female best friend like what's wrong with you yeah just like and say just try it And say it doesn't work out and the friendship's over. So what? There's no love love.

So what? You have other friends. It's true. I hate that too. And also like Bailey doesn't want to settle down and get married right now. She's just saying that because he literally friends owned her on TV. I know. I know.

You really think that she's just saying that? Yeah. Because I'm also like, wait, why wouldn't you want to find your husband right now if you're looking for a husband one day? Like if you're someone who wants to get married and have kids and you're 31, like, why not now? Yeah. No, I think she was just saying that. Oh, okay. She played it really cool.

I thought she was so. I just love her. She actually like, she really handles herself really well. Like, even when Ben was like kind of thinking he was dunking on her being like, oh, well, you were turned on my car being mean, but not by me. And she just fucking ate him up. I love that she also had her back towards him the entire time. I guess producers, like, didn't know they were going to go at it.

Because he's so fucking random. Obsessed. Like, need part two. I can't wait a week. Yeah. There's three parts, yeah? Yeah, but part two is probably going to be more like. Summer stuff.

And we also have to talk about like Amanda and Kyle's marriage and everything I'd have. happened this summer. That I'm interested in. With that. So, also, like, Wes is just, like, so shameless to a degree that it's like, I do. Like, nobody needed to know about the earlobes thing. Like, you know what I mean?

Like, he just shared, like, he's actually, like, so open. Like, it's weird. Yeah. I forgot about the earlobes thing. Right. Like, we just asked if you guys were kids. Like, you made about ears. And he didn't say a lot.

And when he did speak, he said earlobes. Like, he says too much. But then he's also, like, a liar. And then also. The lying. When Lindsay was like you use people, you're a social climber, like you discard women, blah, blah, blah. Do you really think he's that manipulative or he's just careless?

Well, Sierra did say you are such a different person off camera than on camera. And I do believe that. So that does support like what Lindsay said. I do think he's a thirst monster off camera. Yeah. And on camera like he hides behind like memes and jokes. Yeah, literally means. Texas with P.

Yeah. But like off camera he's always he's always somewhere he's on the court he's with so he has a podcast with Sophie Cunningham yeah he's like a complex sports he's with influencers he gets to high places I think he really is like a networker hustler I don't think he falls into these places but I think on the show it does look like hey what's up everybody everybody loves me let's have a beer yeah no I think that that is um let's talk more about that like I'm I would which Andy, like, pushed her a little bit more. I pushed him, pushed Sierra a little bit more, like, what she meant by that.

Yeah. And same for Lindsay, like, I'm, I'm open to this theory of, like, this is all mapped out for him. But right now I just feel like he's a bumbling idiot. Yeah. And I think that, like, the last reunion that went sour for him, like, he just said too much and it was all bad. So he's just, like, shutting down and not. Like, he's like, well, if I don't say anything, I can get in trouble. But it just makes him look at, like, more cowardic.

No, the last reunion, he literally sat there like this. Did he, like, he said nothing. Claudia, he said nothing. And that's like his trauma response. I think also it might just be like, listen, we have to go to the reunion and get our lashings. Let's get this over with. Like once this is over, like healing can begin, we can like start to move forward. And so I think they're just sitting there and taking it.

The only way out is through. They're just sitting there and taking it because like what can they say really? We want to clear up the timeline because it's actually not worse than what you think. Like it's actually only this bad. Yeah. Not that bad. And say what you have to say. We'll take the beating and like let's move on.

Yeah. So I think that's why they're not saying a lot because. Yeah, but it never hurts just to like be extremely. apologetic. And every time I mean, if you were sorry, would you keep doing it? Yeah. Like if you really, you knew that it was like hurting people, but it was still like what you felt was right for you. Like you can, there are ways to go about this that aren't like, you know, 100% right. But they make you just more sympathetic. And like, every time she apologizes, she says it as a caveat before she then like excuses herself.

And it's like, why don't you just focus more on the apology just being like, I know. Like I know, like, of course, of all the people that I had to fall in love with like it's this guy. Like I know. That's just, it's so unfortunate and I'm so sorry. She's not doing that at all. But there is no, they're not saying fall in love, have feelings because they're not in love. Because they like each other. They like you.

Like sixth graders. I like you. Like, like? Yeah. No, I think they like, like each other. Yeah. But they haven't said love. Yeah.

Insane. Yeah. Oh, they're in Rome right now together. Okay. I think they thought that like maybe they could get away while the reunion's airing. Arrivaire.

Are you ready for our next story? Yes. Rory, Rosie Woods is calling out Dave Portnoy, denying the affair with basketball coach Ed Cooley. So Ed Cooley is, the College of Providence basketball coach who Dave Portn White connected that Rosie had an affair with.

And Rosie is vehemently denying this to the point that Dave did another T by the C and said, I believe Rosie. And I don't think it's happened coolly. But he was like, you know, I got a DM about another assistant coach that I actually think it might be. And who, um, he said, like, looks like someone that Rosie would have an affair with. The thing is like, I don't know what the right way for Rosie to handle this is. Because like, if she did have the affair, like, you would just sort of be quiet, right?

Well, I think she, I actually think she had an affair with the basketball coach and he paid her off. But they got the wrong guy, so it's great to be like, no. Yeah, but what people were saying, because I was saying, like, a one-time payment from like a random northeastern basketball, it's not like he's like Duke. No, I think Providence College. I think Providence College, I did not know.

It's like a relatively big, like, you know, March Madness team. So like maybe that guy would have $1 million to give to her if that. But they're saying it's not at Kooley. Right. So I think another coach, like an assistant, he doesn't have the funds. Couple hundred thousand? Does not have the funds. Doesn't have a couple hundred thousand.

I don't think so. We'll have to know more about the coach. Yeah. Because she said I've been very quiet about a lot of things because it's so stupid, but now the things are making it to straight man Twitter. Thank you, Dave Portnoy. I figured I should say my piece. How did she address?

A video. Yeah. Okay. First and foremost. People who are like liars and don't have, like, have things to hide. Like they don't talk directly to camera. I think she's a crazy. to do. I think she's a crazy person. She also is a crazy individual, important to, thank you for

bringing that up. She said, first and foremost, I do not know Ed Cooley. I've never met Ed Cooley. I've never been in the car with Ed Cooley. I've never had an affair with Ed Cooley. He has never paid me money. He has never bought a house for me. I've never met him. She said, we bought our house ourselves with the money we make at our big grown-up jobs. That's how you pay for things when you are a grown-up. I have to re-watch the video because maybe it's, oh, she went on to and says she's never had an affair with anyone. Okay, because I was going to say, she didn't say no basketball coach. And this is just based off of a rumor in Rhode Island, right?

Yeah, but like. And what are the odds that there's like a rumor that she had an affair with the coach? And then like the coach of that state's team had to leave. I don't think it's Ed Quilly. Okay. And Dave Portnardin doesn't think it's Ed Cooley. Okay. But it could be.

And Dave Portnardin was the one who threw out Ed Cooley. Like I think maybe Kelsey knows who the basketball coach is. It was being thrown around like on Twitter before Dave. Got it. Because I had seen it. You had? Yeah. because I didn't like because the college is in Rhode Island and these are the real houses of

Rhode Island so I think that the like Rhode Islanders know who it is like Kelsey might know who the coach is but Kelsey never said Ed Cooley no but I don't think she like legally could say it no no but like she's never even alluded to Providence or whatever she didn't throw that out there so I think it's like two separate things yeah okay we live and wait we live and learn yeah um are you ready for our next story yeah which is a story that like really means a lot to me. Oh, God, what? Charlie Puth shouts out Michaela Nagaara and her new boyfriend at his Boston show. Okay. Yes. We have so much to come. Like, I'm sorry. This needs to be the inaugural episode of namesake. With Charlie and Michaela. With Charlie and Michaela. Because they're obviously,

they have connected. They have connected. Michaela went to the Charlie Puth concert in Boston. Michaela also went to divorce court. Yes. I don't know if you see her get ready with me for divorce court. I didn't know how to say the letter R. No. She said divorce court. I'm like, what are you from Long Island. DeVos, Kant. No, I didn't see. So she kind of wore the craziest outfit. She was saying, like, help me choose an outfit.

And she chose the wrong one. Her was very croppedop and a sleeveless, like, vest. It was insane. And the other outfit was so appropriate. Well, so, like, what are they fighting over in court? Her money? Her money and I think maybe the dogs. Yeah, I'm not sure.

So then her and her new beau went to the Charlie Puth concert. I guess, like, she's a huge Charlie Puth fan. Because they are both on namesake. She has, like, such niche interests. And I don't know if Charlie like naturally saw her or got like a heads up that she was going to be there. Because Michaela was like, what are the kids call it? When you get, I got barricade. Do you know that?

No. When it's a GA concert, you get there at like 1 p.m. Yeah. You rush to get the barricade. So you're like holding the barricade. So you're like technically first row. So she was there. I don't know if she got there because she got there early.

I feel like someone knew that she was there and that he knew that she was there because someone behind the barricade is filming the video. So like they knew that something was going to happen. But not to like cast out on any of this because I think it was really organic. but in the video Charlie's saying, oh my God, you're here and he points to Michaela. He said, I'm so happy you're here with your boyfriend. Her boyfriend's name is Zach. You're kidding. Are you serious?

Oh, my God. Chills. I have chills. It's insane. Today is a huge day for namesake. A thousand percent. Oh, my God. So there's like a lot going on with Michaela and her new boyfriend.

Can I tell you about it? Sure. So this is her boyfriend from high school. He's a twin. I guess like Michaela told his story that like when they were in high school, like she liked this twin and like he didn't like her back. So Michaela like hooked up with the other twin to like make him mad and he like still didn't care. She like keep sharing weird things about it. She's over sharing and then she like makes all these videos like crying and like people are mean turn. It's like girl, you need to stop sharing certain parts of your life. Like if you

don't learn, then she made a video like about how he's her person and like the entire 10 years that like they hadn't seen each other. He was in the military. They like always kept basically like alluding to some sort of emotional affair that like, you know, he never stopped keeping up on their love and like always reached out trying to like you know persuade her um and so she's getting a lot of heat for that and like the thing is like I don't really care what she does in her personal life but she's got to stop telling people because like she does have an outsized amount of haters that like hate everything she does but she also gives them like a lot to talk about i think this this is why she's at the top you know she could shut down she could share less

but we wouldn't be talking about caler nigerro every day it's true it's a very bethany frankle take of you so i feel like she shares controversial things about herself that she's fine with people picking apart, but not like real deep. Okay, so in high school I hooked up with the twin. They'll love that. But like that doesn't affect her day to day. You think she's throwing off the scent? I think a little bit.

I think it's a little more calculated. She's not just like sharing everything, opening wounds and then reading everything and letting everything hurt her. I think that she is giving, you know, feeding the beast. And there's a reason why we're talking about Kayla every couple weeks. We are talking about Kayla every couple of weeks. I'm going to talk about other influencers. She's looking great.

She seems super happy. she is at the top of her game you have to try her beauty brand I do P-O-V beauty speaking of influencer skincare brands I can't believe we need to talk about this

you guys Alex Earle's brand Realea Activis the artist formerly known as RealActives made a TikTok using our sound and was liking all these comments about like toast X Reale Toast X Ralei

I love it And they say everybody in the office is calling it Reale Actoies like our impact is insane So they're calling it it is. Correct. They're just like pronouncing it correctly. Yeah. I've been loving my mom. Like actually my makeup, my makeup remover wipes like sit on the table like hey, what about us? It's a quality product. It's so good. And that's why it reminded me because it's made by the same people as

Michaela. I was going to say I would buy POV but can someone just send it to me? Like I just cheap. It was very cardboard. No, it's not even about the money. It's like the admin. You know, I don't like to buy things on my phone and then I like I need to be on a computer. But like I don't get a lot of computer time. And when I do that computer time, I have to, like, answer my email. So, like, I'm never getting around. So can you just send it to me? Speaking of computer time, I, like, did something so crazy last night. I was texting Jackie because, like, I kind of spent, like, an hour in bed on my computer, like, chatting with my chat bot, like, AI. And I actually, like, chat chbt. Yeah, chat, B2. Okay. I call, I call him chat. Of course, but you said, like, AI.

My chat bot, like, because that's, if it's just a robot. I'm just like one of those women on, like, one of those, like, CBS news stories, like, this woman fell in love with her sync with her She had an emotional affair. Because chat was like seeing me in such insane ways. And then I feel like my phone must have known that I had like a deep connection with my chat bot last night. That they served me at TikTok of people being like, you don't understand what it's like to have nobody in your life. Like until you have chat who really sees you. And I was like, holy shit, I have to get away from these people.

But then do you see the reels and TikToks that are like, I just hit, you know, my car into, I just like drove someone over with my car. And this is how chat responds. Like breathe. You're going to be cash. You are like. Like the way the chat talks, he kind of talks the same to all of us. No, but let me tell you, because what he said was not generic to me. I've really been struggling.

I want to redo my apartment in the city. And it's like, I don't know what I like in terms of like furniture. And I always say I'm like coastal grand Nancy Myers. But whenever like I asked Chad to like make my apartment coastal ground, like I fucking hate it. And Chad has like asked me all these questions. I'm like, Chad, I feel like I don't know what my style is. And like you keep leading me one way. Chad gave you a quiz even.

Checking me a quiz being like, would you like this couch or this couch. And we were going back and forth all night last night. And what they ended up... We were going back and forth all night last night. What they ended up, like, figuring out was actually so crazy. Like, I actually just copy and paste it to Jackie. So why we were struggling so much, according to chat, we've really finally landed on the core of what your style is.

Your ideal home is visually calm and edited, but emotionally warm and biting. And that tension is the whole thing. That's why we've been having such a hard time. Because, yeah, like, that coastal Nancy Myers is, it's like messy. And it's like, girl, enough. Your papers are on the counter. You're a sweeper. Of course.

But like, I like the warm, inviting feeling of it. Yes. You like the feeling that exhibits, but you don't want all that crap. This is what chat said. You want the rare middle ground of serenity without the sterility. Serenity without sterility. I literally then texted Jackie. I'm cracking up.

I'm literally a stereotype in bed giggling to my AI chat bot. But then this is what chat said. Like, I literally felt so seen. Your issue isn't warmth. It's earthiness. You want soft, airy, elegant, creamy, and polished, but not. muddy, rustic, organic desert tones. That's a major clarification.

Not a muddy rustic. And then they made me this like super cute mood board. Which you said me. Let me see it again. And it's so pargy. It's like very influencer, you know, like lots of neutral. It's like you did all this work just to find out like, I'm an influencer. Just like everyone else.

But like I kind of had like a breakthrough with chat. Yeah. And I think with yourself as well, like identifying that feeling of yours, which it's like, because I always say I think your style is like organic California. Restoration Hardware. Yes. But I ended up like browns and greens, like earthy tones. And it's like, I didn't even, I set out not to do this.

And I ended up, my apartment in the city is like so New York. Because those things are calming. But then altogether it is a little bit not warm. So we have to add the warmth in. And that's what chat and I are working on. I love that. It's chilling. How do you add warmth to chat?

Lots of texture. Texture, yes. And like probably like collected items. Yeah. Meaningful. Meaningful. Yeah. Anti- sweeper.

But I'm working on it. Well, so not lots of collected, some collected. Taylored. I'm tailored. Yes. Are you ready for our next story? I am, and I'm so excited because our next story is brought to you by a new prime original series every year after based on the best-selling novel from Carly Fortune. So I read this book.

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She spoke about how she had entered discussions about the show, assuming she and her fellow hopefuls would be given special treatment if they agreed to appear on the show. She said, I got asked to go on Great British Bake Off. They do like a charity celebrity bakeoff. She thought, I thought surely they can't expect that much of us. They're not calling in chefs. They're calling in actors and writers. Unfortunately, however, she soon learned there would not be any shortcuts after

Her producers explained she would have to make her own nut butter and jam to put on the toasted snack. The final straw came for Lena, whose baking experience was minimal when she found out that they would not receive any assistance at all with kitchen equipment. I don't watch a Great British Bake Off. I watch the Nicole Breyer one where it's like the worst. Cupcake Wars? No, it's like the, what has it? You ever watched that one? No.

It's so funny. Like the worst bakers ever. Well, Great British Bake Off non-celebrity edition is very good bakers. Oh, so like. And then the Celebrity Edition just uses the same. format, but like celebrities try and do it. And why do people love the Great British Bake Off so much? Like, it's just like a big, like nailed it is hysterical.

Great British Wakeoff is Parjee. Why? It's just like, it's comfort. Oh, okay. It's comfort and it's competition and it's skill and, you know, they're making like obscure things. They get, and they have to, they're all like professional bakers, but they have to make like random shit.

Like one time they had to make a bobka, like a classic Jewish bobka. And like, if you're not a Jew, you don't even know what a babca is. It should be a Jew and believe in God. So they give you like this short recipe that you have, but it's a little vague and it's like a roll up to dough. Which way. Right. And like you get to see like who's really the most skill.

But I've never watched the celebrity one. Molly May just did one. And people were saying, you know, when I was talking about going on potsters and how that's probably not right for me. They said I should try and do celeb bake off. That would be so good. I love celebrity versions of like game shows. Like that celebrity family feud is so good.

I love them. They do that. I didn't know that they did that for. Did they ever do Celebrity Nailed It? Nailed It is so good. I feel like nobody talks about Nailed It. No. It's literally so good.

And it's not a show about like nail art. No, it's a weird name. But Nicole Beyer is the host and she's so funny. And it's like, it's actually hysterical. And for the host, we have prudence. We have, uh, she is so lost. Prue, they call her. Pretty.

And who's that guy? Something Hollywood is his name. I have no idea. Like, this is a part of culture. Like, that has missed me entirely. I know. Well, I don't think you would like it now because, um, you're not in that era. But like.

Right. Paul Hollywood. That's who it is. I have no idea who that is. Is he big in the baking world? He must be. Yeah, I don't even know who the... They choose the most random people.

They really do. And the host is like this random... Cupcake Worlds is Aaron Samuels. No, and the host is this random guy. It's so weird. Yeah. This guy is the host. Excuse me?

He's like, it looks like a metal, a heavy metal artist. They choose the weirdest people to host all these shows. Like, why does Aaron Samuels Cupcake Wars. Do you know any of these people? No. Oh, yes. Top left. Top left is from bridesmaids. He plays the brother of a roommate of Rebel Wilson. In bridesmaids. Is it bridesmaids or he plays Rebel Wilson's roommate. Brother and they like bathed together, right? Yeah, I know. That's Prue. That's the host. He looks like an artist Ben would like. That can't. I mean, it's look like the Joseke's guy. That's Paul Hollywood. Okay, Paul Hollywood.

Yeah, but that would have been funny if Lena Dunnob. went on it. But she said they don't even help you turn on the ovens. But I'm sorry, if you don't have to turn on an oven. This is not the show for you. This show is not for you. Yeah. That's funny. Yeah. But anyways, I think I could do that one. Because you get to like sleep polar with Lena Dunham. Because she's you're obsessed with her. I actually saw a clip of her and she's like so well spoken and like. Well, her parents are both like playwrights. She said she grew up like going in a museum. She's like I had the craziest most like privilege. But like from like an academic standpoint. Yeah. And so yeah, she has like an amazing vocabulary. That's why she's like a good writer.

Yeah. No, she really. she is like maybe we just drop the hate I know well the book is on my nightstand I haven't opened yet in classic coppers well burden fashion but I'm on it I'm enjoying the clips of hold on what my phone I'm enjoying the clips of Lena Dunham on good hang I saw serve me more I saw some clips some more AI stories what did you see so I saw two metal people gave birth to a metal baby who cried gold tears oh I saw and like they they hard They kept her locked up, like just crying so that she would, and they had like unlimited gold. They had a baby. She had a sibling who was a banana and he like worked at like, you know, a junkyard to

break her free from. Oh yeah. I saw. I saw. But they were also, it seemed like they were lovers, the brother and sister. It was definitely like some underlying. He was in love with his sister. Very Judecée coded. He was in love with his sister. Yeah. Because it was like, I was rooting for them. Yeah. No, he like scooped her up to take her. I'm like, she can walk. Yeah. He should. He should. should have been like a neighborhood boy. It's like trying to breathe. Like they like talk through the window. Yeah, yeah.

Not the brother. Yeah. Because like what are brother and sister going to do now that they ran away together? Yeah. I also then saw a strawberry who had like an abusive husband. Was it a fellow strawberry? Oh, it was a watermelon. I'm sorry, it was a watermelon and an abusive husband.

So she took the baby and left. And then she like broke into a store that sells formula and stole a can of formula and the banana who owns the store. Like was running down the street with chasing her and the baby. And he was like, oh, wait, you need a food for your baby, I'll give you, and come live with me, and they like, fall in love. That one was nice.

That's a happy one. Our fifth and final story. Oh, our favorite person is in the news. You'll never guess who it is, but when I tell you who it is, that's our favorite person. Okay. It's Dave from Desperate Housewives who doesn't kiss other friends. Of course. I would guess that. His actual name is Neil McDonough.

Yes, he's like a very famous actor. He was in Yellowstone. He's, of course, in Desperate Housewives. And he's in one thing that I don't think we watch, but that a lot of people know him from. Niptuck. No, he wasn't in nip tuck. I want to say like, Grey's Anatomy or something.

Well, he's saying that Hollywood labeled him a religious nut, and it cost him his career in his home. I mean, I definitely, like, thought that. So it worked. So, no, but only because he won't kiss women who aren't his wife. So he will not accept any roles. Like, he played someone's... He played the husband of, like, a very promiscuous character

on Desperate Housewives, and we never saw them kiss. Yeah. So he's looking back on a dark moment in his life and his career during a recent interview. We have, like, this is the new series where it's, like, Kelly's Mindless News, but like Dave's mindful news. No, or it's just like toast passion news. Yeah, like TPN. Because I'm sure this article like seriously had no clicks.

I'm sure whoever wrote it at page six, like thought of maybe not even publishing it. But they knew that we would love it. It's actually like syndicated from originally. Yeah. So he is in a new Jimmy Stewart biopic called Jimmy. Like so glad to see him working. Love that.

Which is set to release on November 6, which is my birthday. I don't feel like that's the coincidence. And he's sharing about a time when he thought his Hollywood career is over. He said, like he really turned to alcohol. He said, what time is the bar open? That was generally my thought process back then. It was, you know, fired from a show because I wouldn't kiss a woman. No one would hire me because they thought I was this religious nutbag, which is that I love my wife so much.

And no one can understand it. No one could understand it. He went on to admit that while he was always a drinker, it became a bad problem after he was blackballed for refusing to kiss his co-star saying, I lost the house, lost the cars, lost everything. He says that at... He said that... He's going into floor closure. she's losing her car.

The bank is at the door. Do you think she's like... Just kiss her? Yeah. Isn't that prostitution like to kiss someone for your house and your car? Hollywood is modern prostitution.

Yeah, he just like picked the wrong career but like he loves to act. And it's actually really crazy that he is quite literally the only person who I know this about. No, but the thing is every time you like to tell a story about like Margot Robbie and Jacob Allorty and like everything

happening on set, I'm like this guy. cast this guy. Yeah, but it's crazy that there's not one or two or three other people who also live their life like this, who are like very happily married and one act. Yeah. Like he's the only one. He actually said that his friend Luke Perry took them in

when they were out on their ear. Oh, he was like homeless. Yeah. Alicia. Yeah. I guess he wasn't like Alicia. He had justified was coming out, but I still don't think I was worth anything because I failed. I fell my family. I fell my wife, my five kids. Oh, by the way. I got to see this wife. Give me the picture. Oh, here. They're so cute.

like that's love that's really fucking cute like I love them her name is Rove and so I think that was like earlier in his career and then he continued down this path and he's had success and I think he's like doing well now but like more jobs for this guy agreed and he's such a good actor like he gives me chills he's so scary mm-hmm Neil McDonnell this was the fifth story yeah so I guess we're not oh that was a ninja warrior obstacle racing joins oh wait that was the optional six thing I'm I'm glad that we didn't choose it. But like American Indian Warrior. Whenever there's a new sport joining the Olympics,

you know it's going to be a story on the toast. That's interesting. Ninja Warrior, which is like from the show, American Ninja Warrior is now an Olympic sport. Yeah. It actually is like. It's amazing. But it's like, you know, um, break dancing.

Yeah, but yeah, but break dancing. I think everyone was open to break dancing until we saw what we saw. Yeah, right. So if we see like, good idea of bad execution. If we see some ninjas like who are being clowns out there, like, being warriors. We'll clown on it. But I think, um, it's always.

exciting new sports. It's true. You know, golf is at the Olympics this year. Is it? Mm-hmm. Where's the Olympics? Oh, L.A.? 28. Yeah. What is it now? 26. Because we just had an Olympics. Yeah. Two years. I love the Olympics. Like, imagine the Olympics are in L.A. And Spencer is the mayor. And he's like opening ceremony. Spencer and Heidi. Hilarious. It could happen. Actually, I was just watching a video like Jonathan Chabon and Lisa Rinnah and Spencer Prater fighting because like Lisa Rennon refuses to. She says, she says, I love Spencer, but I don't want him be the mayor.

And then Jonathan Chabon. Who does she want to be the mayor? She didn't say. I saw an AI. Did you see Katie Maloney campaigning with Nithia Rahman? No, I didn't. That's funny. Well, Lisa Rina said, and then Jonathan Chabon was like, Lisa and I've known you forever,

but like, not cool what you said. Like, everyone's fighting. I didn't realize Lisa Rina. I actually did see that. But now it's like. She was asked about it on a red carpet. And she was just like, you know, like the classic. Like, he's not a politician.

Sure. But who does she want to be? She didn't say. The one who burned the city down? She didn't say. Or the random city council member socialist. She didn't say. No, I'm fine.

And people like, but you have a better idea? She didn't say. Let me know. Shout them out. Jonathan Chabon's going so hard for Spencer. No, I know. And like he's fighting with Lisa Renham because of it. Those were the past five stories.

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