The Toast - You Try Bein' a TV Recapper For A Day: Monday, March 10th, 2025

Episode Date: March 10, 2025

Another Simple Favor Director Paul Feig Addresses Blake Lively and Anna Kendrick Feud Rumors After SXSW Premiere (PEOPLE) (20:24)Kylie Jenner can't keep her hands off Timothee Chalamet at Ind...ian Wells tennis tournament (Page Six) (32:30)Luke Combs details 'debilitating' battle with rare, 'particularly wicked' mental health condition (Page Six) (38:15)Actress Emily Osment Files For Divorce After 5 Months of Marriage (TMZ) (43:56)Olivia Culpo Is Pregnant (51:45)Love Is Blind's AD Smith Engaged to Love Is Blind UK Star Ollie Sutherland (E! Online) (54:25)Love Is Blind Recap (58:42)White Lotus Recap (1:16:53)The Toast with Jackie (@JackieOshry) and Claudia Oshry (@girlwithnojob) Lean InThe Camper and The Counselor by Jackie OshryMerchThe Toast PatreonGirl With No Job by Claudia OshrySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to my not my hands. They're just hands. Welcome back to the toast. Happy Monday. Oh, my God. The bitch is back.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Yeah, that's right. School's in session. Miss Trunchable has returned everybody back to four minute and 30 second ad breaks. Back to basics, bitch. OK. It's so true. Back to the embargo of 30 second ad breaks. Back to basics, bitch, okay? It's so true. Back to the embargo of with love, Megan. Back to standard ad reads that are in 15 minutes. Yeah, sorry about that, guys. I left school for one day
Starting point is 00:00:58 and the substitute teachers took over. And nice to know what goes on behind the scenes without me. And it's nice to know how integral I am to getting this show up and off the ground. The kids were wild and out. I was, first of all, editing the episode. So I'm watching you two slander my rules and my good name. Everybody's like, and then I post it,
Starting point is 00:01:18 oh, we need more Ben, we love Ben. I mean, that's just par for the course whenever there's a guest cohost. It's like, he should do it every day. Well, then one of us is out of a job. What are you saying? Like, that's just impossible. But I'm glad you guys liked the episode.
Starting point is 00:01:33 We had a lot of fun. I had him podcasted with Bunchalish in a while. So we had a lot to catch up on, and there were a lot of good topics for us to chat on, especially because food has really been in the news. And he is kind of the voice you wanna hear from when talking about food. I do wanna clarify just like one thing my husband said,
Starting point is 00:01:50 which, you know, your husband goes on a podcast and talks and you only have one clarification. I think he did a very good job. I never said he couldn't talk about the frames. It's not like I was sick Friday morning. I'm like, I need you to fill in for me. Don't talk about the frames. That's not at all what happened.
Starting point is 00:02:03 When we were building this set, Ben was obviously like coming with me and I was showing him pictures of the progress and he was like, do you feel like the frames are a little, and he started to say stuff and I'm like, shut up. Shut up. That's when I told him he couldn't say anything about the frames.
Starting point is 00:02:16 So it's not that his publicist told him not to comment on it, it's that his wife told him to shut up. Yeah, but not, but he made it seem like I told him to shut up in regards to Friday's episode. Got it. No, no. Okay, thank you for the clarification. He's working off of old information.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Yeah, thank you for that. No, it was a jolly good time. I also feel like selfishly he wanted no frames because that way he could use the studio more and it not be so girly. Like he could use it for good guys. If there were no frames, we'd just look like any old podcast studio.
Starting point is 00:02:42 That's the point. Right. That's what kind of sets us apart. That's why we have our frames, we just look like any old podcast studio. That's the point. That's the point. That kind of sets us apart. That's why we have our frames in which to frame ourselves and frame the narrative. We need to reframe the energy. We do, so I feel like he was coming from a selfish place and making it more gender neutral.
Starting point is 00:02:56 I could definitely see that being the reality. Speaking of selfish, he got me sick, I wasn't here on Friday, you guys, I'm back, I'm so much better. He did own up to that and anoint himself the weenie of the week for doing something. I saw, that was very sweet. And let me tell you, because when he went off to work,
Starting point is 00:03:09 I was so mad. I hate to miss work. It's kind of like he did it on purpose to you, sir. Yeah, yeah. Because nobody likes being sick, but oh my God, this is my first time being sick pregnant. If you would have told me the biggest physical pain I would have from being like flu-like with pregnancy
Starting point is 00:03:26 would be the pain in my knees. Like you feel it differently. Like it was so crazy. It was really, really bad. So when he went off, I was so fucking mad. I'm like, he didn't take the cough seriously. He didn't leave the marital bed. And then I'm editing the episode and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:03:39 oh, I wonder who his queenie was because I told him to prepare one. And it was like so sweet. So it was- It could be totally, he phoned it in. It was strategic. It was strategic. Cause I'm like, I am a warrior.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Yes, I am. And he was the weenie for getting you sick, which at least he copped to. How are you feeling by the way? So much better. It's one of those days where, first of all, it's 60 degrees outside. I'm feeling grateful.
Starting point is 00:04:00 The sun is shining, the birds are chirping. To the Lord. The turdys knees aren't hurting. Actually, my knee still does hurt from when I collapsed in the bathroom and Lord. I'm feeling. Actually my knee still does hurt from when I collapse in the bathroom and the bed and bathroom encounter. But yeah, I'm feeling, I still can't really breathe out of one of my nostrils
Starting point is 00:04:12 but I'm not, I'm choosing not to reflect on that. I'm feeling so joyful, so positive, so grateful for my health. Focus on the nostril that you can breathe out of, you know? Yeah, yeah. Oh, and I'm about to say something that everybody's gonna be like, yeah, Trudy, we've been telling you forever,
Starting point is 00:04:26 but you know I come to things late. And I thought I was past this. I really thought I was. Past what? I thought I was past, like my stubbornness and like not believing things are good. Like, on Friday night, Friday day, I just sort of, a Thursday, Friday day,
Starting point is 00:04:44 something arrived from Amazon. Spring, summer joggers. Thursday, Friday day. I just decided, I don't know why I've been so, I'll tell you, it's kind of like the big spoiler, okay? I don't know why I've been so against a traditional pregnancy pillow. I think I blame Olivia Oshrey if I'm being honest.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Because when I was at your house, I was like, maybe I need a pregnancy pillow. Olivia was like, oh I have one, use mine. I'm like, oh great. One of the worst nights sleep of my life. I don't know where she got this enormous fucking thing. And I was like, oh pregnancy pillows are a myth. And everybody over hypes it.
Starting point is 00:05:21 So then a couple of weeks ago, I was like, let me try out, I got like a fancy $60 weighted body pillow and it was fine and then like it got worse and worse and now I don't even sleep with it. So I'm like, you know what, let me just get some shit from China and like see like what the OG pregnancy pillow's all about, you know? Like Amazon number one bestseller pregnancy.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Amazon number one bestseller like came straight from China like smelled horrible, okay? I threw it in the wash. I am coming off of three of the best night's sleeps of my life, like pregnancy pillows are amazing. I was so wrong. I don't know why it took me so long to get one. Like, all the pregnant girls were like, just get it.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Like it's- No, it doesn't make you any less of a woman to have one. I know, I don't know. Like it doesn't mean- Do you know what it is? My own sweeper, like OCD got in the way. I know, it's a big thing to have one. Like it doesn't mean. Do you know what it is? My own sweeper, like OCD got in the way. And I don't want it, like it's ugly in my room. When I make my bed, my bed doesn't look beautiful anymore.
Starting point is 00:06:11 It's green, like it's big and green. And so I was like, you know what? I'm not taking on the burden of this pregnancy pillow. I'm so dumb. I'm always in my own way. Yeah, I feel like that's gonna continue to happen just in general, but also like- To trend.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Even your attitude towards like stuff for the baby where you're like, I don't want over consumption. Yeah. Get the things, the things help. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The things are helpful. Let the pregnancy pillow be a lesson. Let it be, will it be?
Starting point is 00:06:37 No. So that really was helpful in my recovery. I was just like sleeping a lot this weekend, me in this pillow that I have just come to love. To love. I watched so much TV, so much that we're gonna recap. I'm all caught up on White Lotus. I watched a Love is Blind reunion begrudgingly this morning.
Starting point is 00:06:56 So much Desperate Housewives were consumed. Like I didn't get out of bed the whole weekend. It was amazing. Oh, that's so nice. I caught up on White Lotus. We'll recap that. I need you to recap Love is Blind for me because I've given up and now I'm done.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Like I'm out of the rat race and I'll hear it from you. Plus our fifth and final story will lead into the TV recap. Par-j-licious. And I watched a little bit of New Kardashians. Very calming. Yeah, you know me, I'm a creature of habit. Like I'm some, I don't go with the trends. Like just because we all stopped watching,
Starting point is 00:07:23 like not me, I'm still here. There because we all stopped watching, not me. I'm still here. There was so much Kylie, it was fantastic. Oh my God, the best part of the episode, I just wanna say, was Chloe and Scott interviewing a new assistant for Scott. I was laughing so hard. I could have a whole reality.
Starting point is 00:07:40 They should do a show like The Apprentice, where they try and find the next best assistant. Did you ever watch HBO Max's original show, The Big Shot with Bethany? Of course I did. Was that a rhetorical question? Like we recapped it ad nauseam. You did?
Starting point is 00:07:54 Yeah, we talked about it all the time. Well, I watched it with Brian. Wait, sorry, I think we watched like the first episode and we talked about that. Okay, I watched it with Brian. We were obsessed with it. It was the dumbest show. Like Bethany Frankel was hiring, not an assistant, but like something about that. Okay, I watched it with Brian. We were obsessed with it. It was the dumbest show. Like, Bethany Frankel was hiring,
Starting point is 00:08:06 not an assistant, but like something like that. And it was, they made it like an apprentice. Like, they had all these challenges, and it was so stupid, and it was the best show I've ever seen in my life. We need more shows like that. Like, casting for like, dumb ass jobs. Like, that would be a great show actually, Courtney.
Starting point is 00:08:22 I mean, Chloe and Scott. Yeah, trying to find his next great assistant. It was really, really funny. So that's what I did. And then also shout out to the mamas cause daylight savings threw us through a loop, did it not? It threw me through a loop too, as just like a person who lost an hour of their weekend.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Like this weekend, we had less weekend than every other weekend. Do you know that? I do know that. And shout out to the mamas. Like I know with the kids sleep schedule,? I do know that and shout out to the mommas. Like I know with the kids sleep schedule, like it's horrible. But shout out to the girls who were recovering from the flu and got a new pregnancy pillow and thought
Starting point is 00:08:51 that the pregnancy pillow was like so magical because I woke up at 830 and I was like, Ben, it's the pillow. We couldn't get over it. I've been waking up at 6 AM. I'm like, we slept till 830. You would have thought I slept till noon the way I was acting.
Starting point is 00:09:03 It wasn't until a full 24 hours later that I was like, wait, till 8.30. You would have thought I slept till noon the way I was acting. It wasn't until a full 24 hours later that I was like, wait, did I sleep till 8.30? I had no idea it was daylight savings. Well, at least you slept till 7.30 if you usually wake up at six. It's something. I guess, I guess. Charlie slept till 8.30 this morning,
Starting point is 00:09:17 which is technically 7.30, but then last night I put them down like at the new bedtime. So he actually did get an extra hour of sleep, but it's all very confusing. But last night was the first night, like I didn't have to close my blinds at 4 p.m. Yeah, we got to play outside after dinner
Starting point is 00:09:32 and I'm hopeful that this year will be the year where we don't change the clocks again. Like this is how it should be all the time. You know, every year there's bipartisan effort to stop daylight savings. There's lots of talk. This could be the year, Turdi, this could be the last time, Ned.
Starting point is 00:09:46 I'm so utterly confused, except of course they're gonna take away the one where we get more sleep. I just wanna say, I saw a clip of someone asking the president about it, and he didn't seem convinced that it was the right move. He said, I'm still thinking about it, like for real. Okay, sometimes you have to think about stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:59 He said, I've been hearing conflicting. Let's see how he felt after last night. Right, maybe if he wakes up with a little bed head. He'd be like, enough. If he feels refreshed or if he feels like kind of- This isn't the one where you wake up feeling refreshed. It's great for your life and your quality of life and seasonal depression.
Starting point is 00:10:17 It's good for all of that, but day of is a hard day. The other one is a nice day, but you're in for months of sadness. Yeah, I can't believe the months of sadness are over. Like that was really just, it's just a crazy time. We made it. Like it's so, it's important to acknowledge the space. I really had adjusted to like the darkness.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Like we were in a good schedule, good routine. Like you let it wash over you. Yeah, it was just like dinner bath bed cause there's no more sunshine and like, it was fine, you know? And so like they just give it to us to take it away again. Yeah, I don't really plan on changing much about my life. I remarked at five o'clock that the windows like were still bright and then I put the blinds down.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Same, you know, new time, same me. But don't you like to watch the sunset or watch the sky slowly wind down? I do actually, but we were watching Desperate Housewives and the glare was starting to bother me, so. Desperate Housewives greater than God's gift. I'm at the final season of Desperate Housewives and it's really bad.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Like there is actually, and you're gonna remember this. So you know, at the end of season seven, all the women bury a body together. And season eight is like the fallout of that. They all have so much guilt. The police are like chasing them. They're trying to like maneuver. And Susan is obviously the one who can handle it the least.
Starting point is 00:11:34 And she's like crippling and she's taking an art class to get through it. And the artist teacher is like, paint your deepest dark. And she literally paints the four women in the forest burying a body. Like it's an actual admission of guilt. And then they like show it at an art show
Starting point is 00:11:51 and the women are like, are you dumb? Like seriously, are you fucking dumb? The police are literally telling us, you, it's like a series of paintings where it's like, what, we killed him with a candlestick. Like she tells, and then they all start fighting and they're not even fighting about Susan being so stupid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:08 This is where the show officially lost me. Under said, well, that's good because you won't be sad when it's over. Yeah, and I do. You'll be through with it. We had big plans to watch Friday Night Lights, although Ben wants to start Desperate Housewives over again.
Starting point is 00:12:18 You think I like Desperate Housewives? Well, no, he was talking about it when he was here. He'll come home from work. He'll be like DH, That's what he calls it. And I'm like, he's like, D.H. I'm like, no, like he is obsessed. He kind of makes me hate it. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:12:37 It's like Ben show. You're watching for him now. A thousand percent. When you guys split up into different rooms, which you must do after everything that's happened any day day now, yeah. Like, I'm sorry, we all have to separate the two of you. Yeah. Then in his room, he can watch DH and like you can watch FML.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Yeah, yeah. But we did eventually have to turn it off to watch White Lotus and Love is Blind, so it was fine. White Lotus, yes. My Sunday evening, I'll never get back. Here's the thing. And I already had one less hour. We'll do an official TV recap.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Or do I have one more hour? We're gonna do an official TV recap, but as it pertains to White Lotus, I'm just gonna say the thing that you're not supposed to say, right? The show is bad and I am bored. And then people are like, well, you just don't get it. It's character to, shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 00:13:26 I'm turning on my TV to be entertained. Right, if it has such like subtext plot, shut up. It's bad and I'm bored. If I didn't get something, I would say I'm confused, right? There's nothing not to get there. I'm following. There's not that much dialogue. It's very slow moving.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Like it's not missing me. There's not that much to get. I feel the same way that I felt when I watched season one, which is why I didn't watch season two, where it's like, I'm happy for the show. People really like it. They have a nice concept, the hotels, the funny characters, but everyone makes more of this show than it is.
Starting point is 00:13:58 It's not much more than what you see. They act like it's genius. Mike Lotus, whoever his name is, Mike White. Oh, what a genius. It's not genius at all. It's just like people on vacation and everyone just makes such a big deal of it. And that also makes it worse
Starting point is 00:14:14 because it doesn't live up to that expectation. That's a very good point. It's just a show. And it's not, it's good compared to the fact that there aren't a lot of good shows and it's a good premise and it's regenerative. And, but when you're, when you look back on it,
Starting point is 00:14:29 like when I think of season one, I'm like, oh, that was like so funny. They're in Hawaii and the pineapple guy and Sidney Sweeney and someone dies in the duty, ha ha. But now I remember what it's like to actually watch it. And those are- Participate. Those are like really the only things that happened
Starting point is 00:14:43 because not a lot happens because they're just like making a meal of this because they're taking themselves so seriously. Like every actor is like, I got white lotus. Like it's a cool job because we've made it that way, but like it's not Game of Thrones, okay? No, and we need to like just start treating it like for what it is, which is a TV show.
Starting point is 00:15:01 We need to calm down with it, okay? Yeah, and I really can't with people psychoanalyzing. And my least favorite thing in today's day and age is when you don't like something, people say you just didn't get it. And it's like, no, no, I can get it and still dislike it. That's how I felt about The Bear. Well, you obviously didn't get it.
Starting point is 00:15:14 You don't work in food service. And it's like, well, if a show requires me to have a certain job, then the show isn't good, first of all. Second of all, I got it. I didn't like the show. It gave me anxiety. Yeah, no, that's not a legitimate. I just hate when people say that. Yeah, except, I didn't like the show, it gave me anxiety. Yeah, no, that's like not a legitimate.
Starting point is 00:15:25 I just hate when people say that. Yeah, except if you don't like this show, it's because you don't get it. Yeah, and you're dumb and ugly, money, you'll go back and shave your back, okay? You can go shave your back now, okay? But I do think there are things that I could watch it, I could be like, I don't get it, you know?
Starting point is 00:15:41 Yes, I think if I watch Shogun. I'm not too big to say that. I think when I thought about watching Shogun, it was giving the vibe that I wouldn't get it. And that's okay. I can't get everything, but I'm just saying, I also sometimes don't like things that I do get. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Two things can be true, la turda loo. I love and hate you. That's me. So we have a lot to do today because it's a Monday, just like general catching's ups. Love is blind and yeah, I don't want to spoil my thoughts. Okay, let's save them without further ado, do, do, do, do. It's time for the fast five stories.
Starting point is 00:16:21 You need to know you do, do, do, do, do. I think we should add a little shimmy know you do do do do do. I think we should add a little shimmy when you do the, do it again. The fast five stories you need to know you do do do do do. Like Ariana Grande showing Julianne Hough how she dances. It felt strong. Did it look strong?
Starting point is 00:16:38 Yeah, it looked really strong. I feel like my shoulders were going one way and my breasts were going another. I wasn't watching that closely, but we'll get the replay. Oh, well that's fucking rude but we'll get the replay. Oh, well, that's fucking rude. We'll get the replay. Today's episode is brought to you by Caraway, which is perfect because I spent the entire weekend cleaning,
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Starting point is 00:20:33 So simple favor sequel premiered at South by Southwest this weekend. And honestly, I don't know what it was like on the ground, but it looks like a disaster to me. I completely agree. I think it was really, like it was disgusting. I think Blake Lively is a dirty whore. I can't believe she put on a dress and went to work.
Starting point is 00:20:50 I think she's a disgrace to women and to humanity. And I think she should die. Oh, well I was more so talking about the feud rumors between Blake and Anna Kendrick. And I'm talking about the response to Blake Lively leaving her house. Like I know that this is a complex situation. Everybody has their takes, the lawsuit,
Starting point is 00:21:07 but like seriously, the woman didn't do anything. She went to work in a dress. Yeah, well that's ridiculous. That's like- Like she took her jacket off and they're like, this costume change is so egregious when there are women fighting for their life. Yeah, no, she took her jacket off.
Starting point is 00:21:20 But Anna Kendrick and Blake Lively, the two stars of A Symbol Favor, there had been like rumors about them feuding. Forever. And then the premiere didn't do anything to dispel those rumors. Anna Kendrick has such a quirky sense of humor, but it's hard to know when she's being funny or sarcastic,
Starting point is 00:21:41 and so she's asked about the Blake stuff, and she kind of is keeping mom's the word because what else can she do? It's all very complicated and I'm sure she wants nothing to do with it but it also sort of looks like she hates Blake. Paul Feige weighed in and said that. That's also like I feel like a complication
Starting point is 00:21:56 in the whole thing is that one of the very few like public allies of Blake Lively is this director, Paul Feige. So he's at the event too, he's speaking on behalf and so if Anna and Blake like really hate each other, there's definitely an imbalance in the workplace because Paul and Blake are thick as thieves. Yeah, and he, like people were, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:13 chiming in saying, Anna hates Blake, Anna's scared of Blake. And he responded to someone saying, you are wrong. So he's maintaining that this is like, they're good. I don't think they're that good. I don't. No, before Blake was like a, you know, America's Most Wanted, there had been like theories that this was like the most toxic set ever.
Starting point is 00:22:33 These two would not even look at each other, refuse to do press together. And this was way before anybody had anything bad ever to say about Blake Lively. It's like, if you've been paying attention, there's definitely weirdness in, and the fact that they decided to make a sequel when there was clearly such bad vibes
Starting point is 00:22:47 and the movie like wasn't even successful. I don't understand. No, and if Blake and Paul are so close and they wanted to make a sequel and the two leads like don't get along, they could have done it without her. I don't know if it's based on a book that needs both of them,
Starting point is 00:23:03 if the book also has a sequel and you know, not to like make Anna Kendrick like out of a job, but I know I could also have seen that happening, so the fact that she, everyone signed back up, says like, oh, and it's not like it was like a huge blockbuster, it's like how could, it's not like Twilight, like oh, of course, Chris and Rob will work together. Even though, I don't know if Anna Kendrick is like
Starting point is 00:23:22 getting offered so many roles these days, you know? Yeah, I don't know. I feel like people really love her. No, I think it's the opposite. I think people really don't like her. No, I think she's someone who like, people have made it their personality to dislike, but like when she's in,
Starting point is 00:23:36 like everything she's in is really successful. Yeah, I mean, Pitch Perfect is one of the best movies of our time. Twilight. Oh my God, even though she's like such an irrelevant ugly in Twilight. No, I know, though she's like such an irrelevant ugly in Twilight. No, I know, but she's actually, everything that she's in. She's such a jealous wench.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Is very successful. I feel like she's a safe cast. I think you make a good point that like, nobody would have agreed to do this movie if it was as toxic as like the rumors have made it up to be. Cause it wasn't this movie that demanded a sequel. Like there was a small following of the niche cult following, but beyond that, it wasn't a movie
Starting point is 00:24:05 that really required a second film. So like maybe these three loved working together. That's what it sounds like. Yeah, they wanted more. Right. And so I think a lot of people are taking clips from this weekend and really making more of it than it is. Like there's definitely something there,
Starting point is 00:24:19 but I don't think anything is an admission. Like Anna Kendrick is weird. So when her weird responses to also, I'm sure they've been briefed like not to speak on Blake Lively. It's like an ongoing legal matter. I don't think they have to be briefed. Nobody wants to step into this mess.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Correct. So I don't think that these videos and these responses of Anna are like that telling. Yeah, but I just feel like if Anna had her back and Anna loved her and Anna believed Blake, like they would be arm in arm. You know, doing a Cynthia and Ariana. Nothing can come between us.
Starting point is 00:24:49 If these two hated each other as much as we've been led to believe that they did. And now Blake Lively is the most hated woman in America and they're doing a press tour together. You just know Anna Kendrick, if that was the truth, would be like living for it and like leaning in and giving the people. So she didn't do that either.
Starting point is 00:25:02 I don't know, never interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake. What does she need to do more than what's already happening? Yeah, I don't think that this is the most amazing copacetic working relationship of all time. I do think maybe some of the rumors have been blown out of proportion a little bit,
Starting point is 00:25:17 but there's definitely something there. There's definitely something there. I hope they keep the premieres to a minimum because this is uncomfortable. Yeah, it was. And I actually felt genuine pain for Blake. She's trying so hard to combat the mean girl. That's what I think one of the biggest,
Starting point is 00:25:34 most valid criticisms about her from all this is seeing the way over the years she's interacted with fans and people, it's just rude and bitchy. So to see her go out into the throngs of fans and being like, oh my God, hi, like pretending she knows who you are. I just know that was really hard for her because it goes against her natural instinct
Starting point is 00:25:50 to be like a big bitch. And I felt bad for her because it was like truly eating humble pie. It's like when Regina George put the back brace on, you know? Yeah, yeah. I feel like she doesn't need to do all that. Just be a bitch.
Starting point is 00:26:03 No, and like the fact that she's being so nice and she's never been this nice, she's kind of like validating the rumors to do all that. Just be a bitch. No, and the fact that she's being so nice and she's never been this nice, she's kind of like validating the rumors. Yeah, exactly. She's like, you wanna take a selfie? You don't wanna take a selfie. And there was this male fan who's clearly a big Blake fan. I think Blake was, you know, the Kardashians,
Starting point is 00:26:17 people know their biggest, biggest fans, people who run blogs about them. So she was trying to have a moment with this guy. I'm like, you don't know him. You don't know him. You don't know this man, stop. Yeah, the royal walkabout was unnecessary. Yeah, the royal, exactly.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Like when the royals like walk through and like shake hands and kiss babies. In the villages, yeah. But like there, like you could just go from the car to the carpet to the movie, it's fine. Yeah, it's enough. We don't need this from you. It's so natural.
Starting point is 00:26:46 I am also like, anyone else getting annoyed with Brendan Sklinar? No, I'm personally not getting annoyed with Brendan Sklinar. Okay, I am because at first he was like a Blake ally and then he was a Blake hater and then over the weekend he wore this pin on the red carpet, which was the same flower pin
Starting point is 00:27:02 that Justin Baldoni had previously worn. And he's kind of playing into, but he's also like, I don't want to be asked about this. And he's actually been a really big part of the story. Like one of the big interviews that went viral with Blake being like a nasty bitch was when she was sitting with Brendan Sklinar and he like rolls his eyes. So like, oh, he hates her. But then him and Paul Feig were like people to start sticking up for her. And now I feel like he's playing both sides.
Starting point is 00:27:21 And I really want to know what he thinks. He's just like, I think living for the attention. I think that Brendan Sklinar would be a classic case of like a Hollywood person who literally doesn't give a fuck what the truth Is there who's right, but it's gonna just try and be on the same side. Do what's best for his career. Oh, we're with Blake now I'm with Blake. Oh, well things are turning toward Justin subliminal message I would be really upset if my if I found out my boyfriend was like that like I love him But he's starting to piss me off. Like who's starting you on?
Starting point is 00:27:46 But also he's gonna be in Housemaid, right? Yes, that's why he's been doing a lot of press. Right? Oh, you're right. Yes, that's how it's all connected. Paul Fige, same director. So maybe it helps to be up Blake's butt a little bit. Maybe he posted that.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Since when is Paul Fige such like a mover and a shaker? I've never even heard of him. Maybe he posted that thing about Blake when he was like down to the last two in casting for Housemate. Just so Paul Feig smiled upon him. Did you see the video of Sydney Sweeney and Brendan Slyner like on set of the Housemate
Starting point is 00:28:14 like being cute and now everybody's doing what they did with her and Glenn Powell? No, I didn't see that. Well, I need Sydney Sweeney to stop pretending like she's gonna marry that guy. I need Sydney Sweeney to stop pretending like she's not engaged. No, no, but the thing is, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:28:26 She's not, like you're not marrying that guy, you know? Oh. You're not, like stop. I feel like she's very much marrying that guy. No, she would have done it already. Like she's not and I, and. That guy is whoever he is in this world. I get it, like she's in this situation. She's in this situation that like, I get it.
Starting point is 00:28:42 You, you can't marry him. Like what are you doing? No, whoever he is in this world, like, I get it. You can't marry. Like, what are you doing? No, whoever he is in this world, like he's holding her back from obviously- You know who he reminds me of? And this is gonna be like, actually, no, I don't know what I'm gonna say. So she must love him so much.
Starting point is 00:28:55 She can't break up with him. She has to marry him because she loves him so much. No, they obviously buried, they buried a body in the woods together. Like Susan Meyer, he's Susan Meyer. Yes, and instead of painting it, she's just doing all these bad movies. No, it could be like Margot Robbie,
Starting point is 00:29:08 who is literally the same, and she's married to a normal industry guy who we don't know, and they're having a baby, and she loves him so much. Yes, she could have been with Leo. Okay, can I say something a little out of turn? I'm gonna say the thing you're not supposed to say. That she's old?
Starting point is 00:29:23 No. Oh. What? I old? No. Oh. What? I don't even think that. Margot Robbie, yes, she like married a total nobody. She married a total nobody who's actually extremely good looking. Okay, I don't even know who Sydney Sweetie's man is.
Starting point is 00:29:38 So let's go. Let's do it. Let's dig in. I would say like, yes, Margot Robbie is the most beautiful woman in the world, but her man isn't that much uglier than her, you know? Jonathan DeVino, does that sound right? Yeah, it does.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Okay. And I just feel like him and Sydney Sweeney are on different like levels physically. I don't know if that's like so mean to say. He's not bad looking. He's not bad looking, Claudia. He looks nice, dressed up. I think he's got something.
Starting point is 00:30:10 I think he's got swagger. He's 41. Yes, he's much older. And he's 5'9". I just, I need her to like kind of- I know too much about him now. I need her to quit the act, like stop. He's a businessman.
Starting point is 00:30:22 What if he's really wealthy? So is she. I need her to date Brendan Sklinar. Really? And maybe, I just, stop. He's a businessman. What if he's really wealthy? So is she. I need her to date Brendan Sklinar. Really? And maybe, I just, no, maybe this guy, Jonathan DeVino, is somebody she could end up with, like after an illustrious career, or like. Why does she have to suffer in order to get,
Starting point is 00:30:39 like this would be the end. Oh, you're suffering? Dating Brendan Sklinar is suffering? Dating Willie Nilly over there. Is suffraging? Yeah, no scruilly over there. Is suffragette. Yeah, no scruples. She's a suffragette. Team Blake, Team Justin, Willie Nilly, Brendan Sclernar.
Starting point is 00:30:51 No, it's like a fun thing. Like remember when everybody for five minutes was like, is she dating Glenn Powell? That was fun. Yeah, I agree. How many times are you gonna do that before you look stupid? A couple of times,
Starting point is 00:31:02 and then you settle down with a Jonathan DeVino. You don't show up to the party with a Jonathan DeVino. I just feel like, so maybe she's mature. Like, why do you, how long does she have to do that stupid thing before she recognizes real? For me, this is where gender roles are like, extremely important. Like if a guy gets really famous in Hollywood
Starting point is 00:31:17 and stays with like his little girlfriend, like obsessed, you are salt of the earth, love you, love you. When a woman does it, it's like, ew. I don't know. Like you don't have a man with a job? I don't know. Not for someone in the industry. I just can't tell you like how that's so,
Starting point is 00:31:34 doesn't do it for me. I'm ready for this relationship. Like a lion actor? It's run its course. Okay, well I support Sydney being scrupled. And I support myself. Okay. I also want to look up Margot Robbie's husband
Starting point is 00:31:54 just to- He's cute. His name is like Sam or something. Tom Ackerley is his name. Oh, he is cute. Exactly. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. He's got like a super cute face. And they both have like that Australian like- Connection. Is she Australian? Hmm? Yeah, he's got like a super cute face. And they both have like that Australian like.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Connection. Is she Australian? Hmm? Yeah, she is. She's Australian? Yeah, no, like that look, that like surfer, beachy, really cute look. Yeah, and then also he's a producer. I think she like made him a producer. Yeah, like I'm Itania Barbie terminal.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Right? Barbie. I'm cracking up. That's hilarious. Okay, well, let me know if anyone sees another simple favor. Our next story, speaking of two people who are so perfectly matched at a tennis match.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Oh my God, and tits out for the boys. Kylie and Timothy can't keep their hands off each other at the Indian Wells tournament. Kylie and Timothy stepped out at the BNP Paribas Indian Wells Open in Indian Wells, California on Sunday throughout the match. They were packing on the PDA. Her friends were there.
Starting point is 00:32:56 It was just like a fun outing. I think I saw Kendall, right? I saw Kendall, but I also saw Victoria. And then I saw what looked like Victoria looking like Kendall. So I wasn't sure. Look, I thought Kendall looked like Victoria looking like Kendall. So I wasn't sure. Look, I thought Kendall had like a really short bob. I feel like, oh, there's Kendall. You're right. You're right. Both of them are Victoria and Kendall.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Yeah, it looked like a fab outing, just like a bunch of friends drinking, watching tennis, like taking pictures. Kylie looked so unbelievably gorgeous. Like, I can't believe that these two are together. Like, and you know And she's definitely making me look at him a little bit more favorably. I've never thought he was cute or my type. And when she shows up on a red carpet and she's looking va-va-voom and she's with him, it's like, oh, maybe he's not so bad.
Starting point is 00:33:34 She brings up the group average. And her just sitting there with her bombshell blowout, her cleavage, which was just so insane, I couldn't help but wonder like, seriously what does she see in him? Like I'm sorry. She is making me reevaluate him. And I like what I see.
Starting point is 00:33:53 I like what he brings out in her, like this confidence. And she should be the most confident person in the world cause like she's so gorgeous and hysterical and perfect in every way. And you can really see that she feels that way. So I love that for her from him. But now when he does stuff, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:34:12 okay, Timothy, Kylie's boyfriend, let me listen to you. Like he gave that speech when he won the SAG awards. You're thinking more about him in a substantial way. Yeah, like I'm not just like, oh, this actor who I have nothing to do with. But like the SAG awards speech that he gave, that he's like a very serious person and he wants greatness and he's like a very serious person
Starting point is 00:34:25 and he wants greatness and like he will, and like he's just very high achieving. And I think that's an attractive quality. I think he's like a serious person. I think he's a smart person. The fact that they've been together almost two years and like they're still this into each other and like touchy, feely and happy.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Like I wish them a lifetime of happiness. It's true. It has like been a long time and they're still very like honeymoon phase. I like that he's very family oriented, he brings his whole family everywhere and you know I love me some Pauline Chalamet. And she's very family oriented.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Of course, so they probably have that in common. Also I meant to tell you, speaking of Pauline Chalamet on the Mindy Kaling show, I watched Running Point this weekend, you will love it. It is so funny, first of all, not nobody telling me the star of the show is Chet Hanks, okay? Tom Hanks's turned troubled youth young son. He is amazing.
Starting point is 00:35:14 He is so funny. And that's why like only Mindy Kaling could see that in him. You know, like I think people don't take him seriously. He plays this like, you know, a star basketball player, but who has like a bad image and he's always like saying the wrong thing and doing the wrong thing. He is so funny. Jackie, the show is so good.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Like it's really. I was on Netflix watching like something mandatory and I was like, damn, I wanna be watching that. Yeah, it was so funny. And there's like a whole part where one of the siblings like refuses to call Twitter anything but X and everybody's like, stop. And he's like, I re-Xed something.
Starting point is 00:35:45 It's like, you retweeted. And it's literally you. Even though it is called X, like we do still say retweeted. Of course. And it's so funny, they're trying to get ahead of a scandal. So one of them like has a Finsta. And he's like, no, a lot of times
Starting point is 00:35:56 I can debunk stuff with my Finsta. So he like writes a Finsta tweet that's like, no, I was at this restaurant. It's not true. That didn't happen. And he accidentally sends it from his real Twitter and then deletes it and then puts it on the Finsta. And like he's exposed. It's like, no, I was at this restaurant. It's not true. That didn't happen. And he accidentally sends it from his real Twitter and then deletes it and then puts it on the Finstend. Like he's exposed.
Starting point is 00:36:08 It's like Normani coded. What is happening? Oh my God. It's so funny. It's such a good show. Like I haven't even finished anything. I'm like four episodes in, but I'm like really enjoying myself.
Starting point is 00:36:17 That's so funny. I will watch it. I just added it to the content plate. And what's funny is the last three things on the content plate are all Mindy, Kayling, Sex Lives, Mindy Project and Running Point. Mindy Kaling Supremacy, it's fabulous. And the soundtrack is really good too.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Can't wait, like truly can't wait to watch that. Back to Kylie and Timothy. Yeah. Like lots of love, seriously get married and have babies. Like I'm serious, I'm sick of waiting. Yeah, I think that's kind of the plan. Yeah, but I'm ready. Paulie, you just had a baby.
Starting point is 00:36:46 You know when your siblings start having babies, it makes you think like. Yeah, but Kylie's already a mama, so it's just about like what works for her. Yeah, no, and I think Kylie's like down. She's like, once you have kids, like you're not afraid of it anymore. It's not like such a big deal.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Timothy, this is like his first four-way, so he might need to be like persuaded a little bit. He might like want an Oscar first, you know? I could be that. But he can't really achieve the emotional depth of Oscar winning performances until he experiences fatherhood. I totally agree.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Yeah. But I could also so see him being like, I can't have a child until I've had an Oscar. And then also if that ever does happen, him realizing like what a stupid thing that is to say. And if he doesn't need that to happen, he needs to take on better roles than that piece of shit Bob Dylan movie.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Sorry, I hated that movie. Like no one was sadder when he lost the Oscar than Kylie. If he doesn't need that to happen, he needs to take on better roles than that piece of shit Bob Dylan movie. Sorry, I hated that movie. Like no one was sadder when he lost the Oscar than Kylie. Yeah, she's like, oh, over-age, we'll try again next year. I don't think they'll get married though because they each have too much money. Going on, yeah. But that's fine, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Did you see the video of when it was time for Timothy's award at the Oscars? People were filming like him from the stands and Kylie had actually switched seats with his mother who was sitting behind them and let the mom and Timothy sit in the front row together. And she sat behind him and then when he lost, she like hugged him from behind and gave him a kiss.
Starting point is 00:37:57 And I thought that was really, we're always talking about, you know, the order of importance, fiance, girlfriend, mother, and she gave Timothy's mom. And that's just her playing the long game, because you know, now the mom definitely really likes her. Yeah, no, she's such a queen. Yeah. So nobody had more fun than them this weekend.
Starting point is 00:38:14 It's true. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Some sad news about one of our faves. Luke Holmes is detailing his debilitating battle with a rare, particularly wicked mental health condition. Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:38:27 Yeah, I just saw this this morning. Luke Holmes appeared on 60 Minutes Australia and detailed his battle with a rare form of OCD in a recent interview. He shared that he has struggled with purely obsessional obsessive compulsive disorder, also known as Pure O, since the age of 12, but recently experienced his worst flare up in years. So he described it, he said, it's thoughts essentially that you don't want to have, and then they cause you stress and then you're stressed out and then the stress causes you
Starting point is 00:38:53 to have more of the thoughts and then you don't understand why you're having them and you're trying to get rid of them. But trying to get rid of them makes you have more of them. He explained the tedious and debilitating condition. He said he feels now lucky to be an expert in PRO since he has dealt with it for two decades and he knows how to get out of it now. But he said, when it hits man, it can be all consuming.
Starting point is 00:39:11 He said that he had a really bad flare up. He said that a really bad flare up can last 45 seconds of every minute for weeks. He also shared that sometimes the intrusive thoughts are also violent. The way to get out of it is like, it doesn't matter what the thoughts even are. You giving any credence to what the thoughts are
Starting point is 00:39:25 is like irrelevant and only fuels you having more of them. Here's the thing, Luke Holmes doesn't share much, you know, he doesn't do press, he's not a big talker. So when he does, you best listen, because you're gonna learn something. And this interview is no different. We don't report on like, you know, Luke Holmes' random interviews ever,
Starting point is 00:39:40 because he doesn't like sit down and talk for the sake of talking like a lot of people do in his business. So I love these little windows into Lukie. And once again, setting the bar, breaking glass ceilings. Like do you know any male country music stars talking about their mental health? Because I don't.
Starting point is 00:39:56 No, I'm just gonna show you really never know what someone's going through. And like, I wouldn't thought that Luke might be dealing with something like this. Was like a mental health sufferer. Yeah, and in such like a serious way, like more than the average. Correct.
Starting point is 00:40:11 So that's my king right there. Yeah, thanks for sharing, Lukie. And feel better and congrats. I think he's on like a big Australian something, right? Oh, it's always a big Australian something. I feel like 60 minutes Australia is like Lukie always making like news. Do you feel that?
Starting point is 00:40:26 Yeah, they do a good job. They do. It's a trusted source. Is there like a particular, is there a particular 60 minutes segment that like you find yourself like referencing all the time? Do you know what I mean? Like I've seen like one and I'm always talking about it.
Starting point is 00:40:41 I'll just let you answer that question. It was TikTok in China, you know? No matter how the kids in China are only getting 20 minutes a day and they're doing math equations on TikTok. Yeah. And they're using it as a weapon of mass destruction. I tried to tell you this so many times,
Starting point is 00:40:56 but it's not until 60 minutes. No, but 60 minutes really laid it out nicely, yeah. Okay, does that change things? No, I saw it a couple of years ago. I'm just like always bringing it up. And it's like, I sound smart. Cause I'm like, oh, you know, I saw the segment on 60 minutes and people don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:08 It's like the only segment I've seen on 60 minutes. But it's important that when you've seen a segment on 60 minutes, you let everyone know. Right. Same thing when you've read like one article, you always share that article. Yeah. I like the 60 minutes. Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. I like that too. We need something like that. That's really like the sound, tick, tick, tick, tick. I like that too. We need something to stop. The sound department, slayed. Yeah, we do need something like that. They ate with that. We do, Jackie, we do. It's tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Summer, summer, summer, summer. Or it's like tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, toast. That's kind of cool. I don't like that one. It doesn't slap the way the 60 minutes one does. No, but maybe we'll have something one day. Never stop reaching for your dreams.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Never stop reaching for your auditory dreams. Correct. And expanding your auditory profile. Now that we have the bug. I would never even dream of expanding the auditory file. I do wish that we had little bites bites in between like ad breaks and stuff. Like when other podcasts have we really like it makes no sense because we do it live. But when other podcasts have it like, oh, this is fancy.
Starting point is 00:42:14 I don't know what other podcasts have like so many like sounds and productions. I'm like, oh, this is not real. Yeah, you're trying to listen to the time because you can barely hit 45 minutes. And so you need a minute. Yeah. And at least with the toast, like yeah, you hear sirens in the background, Jackie's kids crying, I'm blowing my nose, like we're losing wifi every 15 minutes.
Starting point is 00:42:30 Like you could never say we're not real. No, I do feel like other shows enjoy the fact that maybe all of their auditory experiences total take up like three minutes. Yeah, no, it definitely cuts down the word count. Yeah, no, it cuts up. You know what I mean. Yeah, beefs it definitely cuts down the word count. Yeah, no, it cuts up. You know what I mean? Yeah, beefs up.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Correct. It's giving adjective. Excuse me? You know when you would like throw in a bunch of adjectives, like you'd be like, it's extremely dangerous, but also concerning, you know? Maybe it is dangerous, but concerning. I know it was for me.
Starting point is 00:43:03 I understand, it's giving adjective. Yeah, adjective, like superfluous adjectives. Understood. Are you ready for our next question? She was greedy? And what's like a synonym for greedy? I think I meant to say it's giving synonym, not it's giving adjective.
Starting point is 00:43:19 I think like unnecessary descriptives. Yeah, no, no, it's like, it was extremely unnecessary and superfluous. And? No, like those are my two cents. It's like. Two, three. Can we end this conversation?
Starting point is 00:43:35 Like, I'm not. You keep having additional thoughts. I keep saying, I keep saying, I am ready, kids. Yeah, no, like just move on. If you got what I was saying, like you got it, if you didn't, like, all right. The thing is, I am ready, kids. Yeah, no, like just move on. If you got what I was saying, like you got it, if you didn't. The thing is, I did. And the thing is, if you didn't,
Starting point is 00:43:50 I understand that as well. I did. I get it. I did understand. Are you ready for our next story? Yes. Okay, a little divorce news. Shockingly, Emily Osmond is getting divorced
Starting point is 00:44:03 five months after getting married. So Emily Osmond is getting divorced five months after getting married. So Emily Osmond is splitting from her husband, Jack Farina, and while many would expect them to still be in their honeymoon phase, looks like she decided five months was more than enough. The actress filed for divorce on Friday from Farina, better known as the stage name Jack Anthony, citing irreconcilable differences.
Starting point is 00:44:24 They got married in October, so it's been five months. The list date of separation is December 2024, less than two months after the marriage. Okay, so I feel like, not to make everything about Young Sheldon, you know Emily Osmond had like a small role on Young Sheldon? Yeah, George's lady. As the seasons progressed, she became more and more important
Starting point is 00:44:43 and then when they created a spinoff, it was George and Mandy, she's Mandy. So I feel like when you get to be the star of a CBS sitcom, like that's money, that's like Killy Cuoco money. That is money that nobody in Hollywood makes. And I think she saw the writing on the wall and her filing for separation, like before George and Mandy came out,
Starting point is 00:44:59 I think was one of the wisest things she could have done. She's definitely making so much money. And she's had a career that like has kind of been like up and down where I don't think she's made a lot of money, you know, at once. And this is like the type of project that, you know, an actress only dreams of. Okay, well first, it's worth noting that they have prenup.
Starting point is 00:45:17 So, and with no children, they'll just like walk away from this. No, but a prenup, by the way, even with a prenup, money she made during the marriage is still community property. So that's George and Mandy. No with a prenup, money she made during the marriage is still community property. So that's George and Mandy. No, a prenup would make money made during the marriage like separate.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Because what you came in with is separate. I mean, prenups are different for like, so who knows what they had, but say the finances are taken care of and also like, like you said, she's been sort of like here and there all through her career. She found this man who's like been with her through it all why would she leave him as soon as she hits it big i feel like unless very Hollywood unless they were having issues and like she like you said saw the writing on the wall and like wanted to leave him before the big check came because she knew they would split up anyway but i don't think that's the only reason and i mean to separate two months after you get married, when she's our age, how would you feel?
Starting point is 00:46:05 Like she's- And they don't have kids together? They don't have kids together and they were married two months. I feel like she found something out about him or he found out something about her. Yeah, maybe. It's kind of giving love is blind, you know?
Starting point is 00:46:16 It's kind of crazy. I feel like Emily Osmond is like a very like good, like not like just like a Hollywood girl who gets like married and divorced in two months. Agreed. So I feel like something must have happened and hopefully nothing too terrible. She has like a very, I think normal life given her job.
Starting point is 00:46:30 I don't think she's like, you know, can't go to the grocery store. No, and like given that she's been in the industry for so long, she just seems very normal in a good way. Yeah, I agree. This is really crazy. I feel like we're seeing a lot of young couples in Hollywood getting divorced recently.
Starting point is 00:46:45 Who else? I don't know. I just feel like this isn't the first one. I didn't realize you were gonna follow up with the question. No, I just felt like when you say that, you have someone, at least one in mind. Yes, actually I was thinking of Halle Bailey. She was with her man, they had a baby
Starting point is 00:47:06 and then like a month later broke up. Divorce? I don't know if they were married legally but they were like a family. Yeah. MGK and Megan Fox, I was just reminded of them. She's pregnant. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:20 And they're big broken up. That's like a different thing. And also they're together a million years and now they're pregnant and not together. And it also reminds me of, I'll always think of Michael Kopec and Vanessa Morgan. It all comes back to Michael Kopec. Right, cause that's a classic case of what?
Starting point is 00:47:39 And fun fact, I'm just coming off of like an eight episode stint of Desperate Housewives featuring Brian Austin Green. Featuring Michael Kopec? Yes, and Michael just coming off of like an eight episode stint of Desperate Housewives featuring Brian Austin Green. Featuring Michael Kopeck. Yes, and Michael Kopeck, of course. Brian Austin Green. And Paula Patton. He works, you're gonna see him around on your shows. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:54 It was just kind of crazy. I feel like Desperate Housewives is its own universe. Yeah. And when Vanessa Williams comes in, as like she's already a famous person and she's like one of the housewives of the last three seasons, it's such a delight to see a famous person.
Starting point is 00:48:05 But then every now and then with a random role, Paula Patton plays this turned girlfriend who shows up, Bryan Austin Green, it's like, what are you doing here? Yeah. It's kind of jarring. They could have just been a random actor and then since then they've become super famous. No, but at the time, Paula Patton was famous
Starting point is 00:48:18 and so was Bryan Austin Green. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Are you ready for our fifth and final story that will lead into our TV recap? If it's our fifth and final story that will lead into our TV recap? If it's our fifth and final story that will lead into the TV recap that's brought to you by Primal Kitchen.
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Starting point is 00:51:40 like perfect things, trips to the Cape, like we're ready to go. Climax, climax. A little breaking news before we get into our fifth and final story that will lead into our TV recap, which is that Olivia Colpo has announced that she's pregnant with the parge's photos you've ever seen. I don't want to say it, you know.
Starting point is 00:51:59 What, like welcome to the club, like that she's in your gang now. I don't want to say it. I was just bragging last week about my timing, you know? My timing, my timing, and look, another Pargy, Pargy-licious. I had a feeling like she might be. I don't know why I feel like she got married
Starting point is 00:52:13 somewhat recently, she's oddly very traditional. Weren't we just talking about how annoying that is? Yes, we were talking about it. Offline, like when somebody tells you that they're pregnant, you're like, I knew it. Oh, I had a feeling. I'm not saying it to her, I'm saying it to you. It's different.
Starting point is 00:52:27 And I just felt like she would have a baby shortly after getting married. That was like the vibe that I got, you know, God willing, that was an option for her because they are like very, you know, religious and somewhat traditional, her wedding dress, you know, remember, I actually was thinking about her wedding dress scandal the other day, like how stupid that was.
Starting point is 00:52:45 People are so jealous and ugly. It's been almost a year since she got married. So like now you have like hindsight when you like, and you can like really see when you look back. It wasn't trendy. It like, it's aging flawlessly in my opinion. It's gorgeous. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:58 I love this. I'm so happy for her. I like her so much. Love this. So happy for her. When I watched the culpos on TLC, which everyone should watch, she expressed how she really wants to be a mother.
Starting point is 00:53:10 And I think she was kind of sad that it hadn't happened for her yet. And she, you know. And she has endometriosis, so I think she had a lot of issues with her health for a period of time. Yeah, so I'm just so happy that it's happened for her. And the pictures are so beautiful.
Starting point is 00:53:25 I need to go see the pictures. There's two photos. Pargy. Seriously, she's so pargy. Two photos, black and white. She has a pretty substantial bum. She was also now spotted by paparazzi out with her bum picking up breakfast.
Starting point is 00:53:38 And the caption on the photos is next chapter, motherhood. Like, okay, beautiful. So cute. She's wearing the platform Uggs that I have to tell her no pregnant woman should wear. I roll my ankle in the doctor's office wearing them. I wear them too much. And like I actually fell the other day wearing them.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Thank God I was with Ben. I keep catching myself. So nothing catastrophic has happened, but the platform Uggs and I love them so much are not for pregnant women. That feels right. You should tell her. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:04 So sometimes when we talk about her on the toast, she like hears about it, she'll send me a message. So Olivia, stop wearing the popcorn mugs. That makes her seriously dangerous. Sending you so much love and peace and joy during this time. And I hope you're having a daughter so that she can wear your wedding dress one day
Starting point is 00:54:18 because that's how timeless it is. Yeah. Very happy for them. Now for the fifth and final story that will lead into the TV recap, starting with Love is Blind because news came out at the Love is Blind reunion that AD from Love is Blind, What City. A couple of seasons ago, I forget what city, but you remember her.
Starting point is 00:54:36 She was honestly awesome. She's the worst guy. Yeah, she, well, he was trying his best. I feel sad for him today. And it wasn't good enough. And also she was trying his best. I feel sad for him today. And it wasn't good enough.
Starting point is 00:54:47 And also she was talking to Matthew. Yes, it was the Chelsea Jimmy season. Oh, that was I think North Carolina. Okay, AD from Love is Blind North Carolina is engaged to Olly Sutherland from Love is Blind UK, which not everybody watched. But you should have. Yeah, didn't know who this was. And if you were as invested over the summer in Love is Blind UK as Jackie not everybody watched, but you should have. Yeah, didn't know who this was.
Starting point is 00:55:05 And if you were as invested over the summer in Love is Blind UK as Jackie and I were for some reason, like you know Oli, and I actually am afraid for her. Okay, so Oli, and this is why the UK one was so interesting for a multitude of reasons, but Oli ended up with somebody who was curvy, and they really don't throw a lot of curvy contestants on the show, and that's actually like a blind thing. Like it's a physical thing. Everybody they cast is
Starting point is 00:55:29 like on the same level for the most part attractive wise. So it doesn't make it that much of a question like is love blind. So it was really interesting what happened with him and Demi and he was definitely a dick and he's definitely really shallow and I don't have high hopes for them as a couple but and everything they were like selling at the reunion, I was like, yeah, sure, but I saw his season. Like I know him, do you know what I mean? But I want the best, he was tough. I just wanna say if anybody watched
Starting point is 00:55:53 Love is Blind mini soda and it like misses the Love is Blind of yore, go watch, okay? Cause that will also like give context for this. And that was such a crazy story. Like, cause the whole time it's like, he doesn't like her, he doesn't like her, but he's like saying all the right things I think he was really misleading just because he didn't want to look like
Starting point is 00:56:10 a dick no and so like the minute cameras were down and it's like the day before the wedding she literally didn't hear from him up until the altar like he was playing such a part he was a real actor and he did not want to look like he didn't like her because of her looks, even though that's exactly what it was. Like, and she ended up using the show to go on this like amazing journey of self discovery and like loving herself and like it was beautiful, you know?
Starting point is 00:56:34 But it was a really good season. So while I love this cross promo, I don't know if this is a good match. Like I think he's also really thirsty. And I think like him dating someone from the American franchise, which is so much more popular, it gives me pause. I don't wanna be so negative. Yeah, no, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:49 There's a lid for every pot. And I also feel like AD, I feel like AD was, I feel like she was happy to now be in a relationship that's love is blind oriented to be in a reality couple. But I also could see how on a personality level, they both could have fun together and why they hit it off. I'm sure all the alums from these shows meet each other.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Not everyone gets together and dates for so long to actually get engaged. So I do think that there's something there and I will support it. Yeah, that's nice of you. I also think AD dating within the franchise is really good. First, she recently launched a podcast,
Starting point is 00:57:23 like a love is blind recap type of show, like post pods or whatever. And so dating someone within the franchise is just like good for business. Yeah. Now I wanna talk to you about the reunion. Please do. And I'm just gonna bring up a picture of everybody
Starting point is 00:57:38 because I'm like so 100% gonna forget. Well, I'm good on our nicknames. Your what? Like our nicknames really work for me. No, but like I will forget certain people. Okay, so let me say this about the Love is Blind reunion. It was absolutely horrible. I hate every single one of these people.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Yeah, I hate every single one of these people. I hate Netflix, I hate Nick, I hate Vanessa. Like the way all these people wasted my time, like well, it's not forgivable. And the fact that I spent another hour and a half watching the reunion and every conversation at the reunion was about something that happened off camera. So literally what it's like these two couples,
Starting point is 00:58:07 this is what happened, you're a liar. So they couldn't agree. I don't know what's real and what's not. I don't know who to believe. Like it was just, so they didn't recap the season. They recapped what happened after the show started airing and in the year since it was just annoying because they all disagreed on what happened.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Not on small things. Like Sarah and Ben were like, we had this conversation. I left the conversation thinking we broke up. I left the conversation thinking we were moving in together in Nashville. Like, how are you so fucking far away? It was so annoying. I'm like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:36 I don't even care. I don't have enough care to choose someone to believe. That's crazy. Yeah. So let me go couple by couple. The only saving grace of this entire show was Shoddy and Nurse. So Taylor and Danielle, they ended up getting married. And they are...
Starting point is 00:58:53 Daniel, sorry. Two girls. Same sex couple. Now, Taylor and Daniel, they look so happy together. They bought a house in the suburbs, not problematic. She made a joke about him following her. Say something like, what if it turns out that he did follow her? I was thinking the same thing.
Starting point is 00:59:09 I think that even if he did follow her, she wouldn't care now. Like she, I think she loves having a husband who absolutely worships the ground she walks on. Their families are so close. Like shortly after the season, his mom was diagnosed with leukemia and the hospital where she's getting treatment is the hospital
Starting point is 00:59:27 where Taylor's brother is an administrator. He lives right by it. The dad was staying with Taylor's brother. Daniel's dad was staying with Taylor's brother while the families are so intertwined. They bought a house, they are so happy he has a tattoo of her. I think it wouldn't even matter now. It would just matter that he's been lying the whole time.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Whatever, like seriously, whatever. Small price to pay for happiness. I think that these two were meant to find each other in this small town and they couldn't believe that they hadn't yet. And Love is Blind was just the means to get them together. They are really, I have all the confidence that they will be together for a while.
Starting point is 00:59:58 It's really cute. I love that. And he worships her, it's great. They're the only unproblematic people. I just can't believe that the whole season was like every trailer, he's following me on Instagram. It was the big drama of the season and it was nothing and it wasn't real.
Starting point is 01:00:16 And they're the only people who got it. Right. No, the fact that they're the only standing couple when after the pods, like they were pretty much like broken up over this is really crazy. And every couple was so strong. Next up, I also think one of the storylines that kept me interested up until the very end was Dave and Lauren.
Starting point is 01:00:35 And then at the reunion, I actually thought we got a lot of closure on and she looked great. I actually really like her. She's really, she's grown on me. And he sat and he was just basically like, I found out a couple of weeks ago that like the guy who was saying all these things,
Starting point is 01:00:49 I found out some things about him that really discredited him and now I feel so stupid. So we spent this whole year like still believing his friends and his mom and his sister. And now he's like, no, I found out a couple things like last month and now I just feel so, and Lauren was just like, it didn't even make her feel better. Like it was so little, so late.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Yeah, I feel like he also just didn't even wanna answer for like what he did on the show. So he's like, oh no, you were right. I saw it too late, sorry. And Vanessa was like, well, what does your sister think about like everything you were so worried the whole time? Your sister, your sister, your sister, like your girlfriend, your sister,
Starting point is 01:01:23 you're gonna wanna make out with your sister. Well, what does she think? And he was like, well, the whole reason she was so concerned was that she didn't want me like coming off bad and getting a bad edit or whatever. And like, that's exactly what happened. Like I came off really poorly and I'm getting a lot of hate. So it's kind of like a self-fulfilling problem.
Starting point is 01:01:36 That's what happens when you like are too concerned with how you're gonna look. You overproduce. You have to just be. And if you're, sometimes they do make a good person look bad and that's really unfortunate, but hopefully most of the time we can just see who a person is. Dave then also went on to say that like Lauren
Starting point is 01:01:50 is the one that got away and he loves her. And Lauren was like, I don't believe you. Like literally it's been a year. I was like, Ollie. You didn't reach out to me till like a couple of weeks ago. And that was a theme with a lot of the couples. They did not talk. There was like a fallout after the wedding.
Starting point is 01:02:04 They, you know, maybe talked or dated for a few weeks, but then they stopped talking and none of them started talking again until I think they knew the reunion was taping. And so a lot of them wanna make amends so that they don't look bad and have the person like say things that maybe you told them in confidence pillow talk.
Starting point is 01:02:18 And- Yeah, well they shouldn't do that anyway. No, and so that was also a recurring theme. It was like the real throwing under the bus of a person that you claim to love, which I found to be like really disingenuous. So it happened a lot. And let me say this, there's kind of a theme going on
Starting point is 01:02:34 with Sarah and Ben, who's boy with the church and girl with the values. And then Virginia and Devin, I told you, they were having conversations about politics. And she shared that Devin did not wanna have those conversations. On the show. On the show.
Starting point is 01:02:51 And so they had those conversations offline and it turned out to be like so different from hers. And like they really couldn't match. And that's a huge reason why she didn't. But then she said the weekend leading up to the wedding, like he was acting weird, like his mom got a wedding gift from her boss and it was a check for $1,000
Starting point is 01:03:10 and like Devin didn't tell her about it, which is like really makes it seem like he's pocketing $1,000, like that's meant for both of them, whereas he was like, no, like we didn't know if we were getting married, so like I was just holding onto this wedding gift in case we had a wedding or in case we didn't. I don't know, I felt like they were just trying
Starting point is 01:03:27 to hurt each other, you know? And it's sad because you said you loved this person. And so with Sarah, I'm like, her values, her values, her values, her values, her values, right? And that's a core part of who she is, whether you like it or not, that's who she is. So why would you say yes to this man? That to me is so disingenuous.
Starting point is 01:03:44 It matters so much. It was the reason you did not want to marry him. And right before he even proposed to you, you said before you say anything, like my values, what do you think? He's like, yeah, I'm willing to like grow. And like he wasn't on the same page as you, but he didn't give a shit about any of it like you did.
Starting point is 01:04:01 So why are we even here? Like that is so annoying. When something that someone says in the pods is the reason why they don't end up together. When it's like you accepted that then, like the time to deal with it was then, if you're gonna say yes to an engagement, like you are committed to working on it,
Starting point is 01:04:20 even if it's not something that's ideal for you, but for it to be the thing that breaks you up, like before you've even had a chance, like given this person a chance to change or grow, like I just feel like it's bad faith. Like then it was always a no. And by the way, they dated after Sarah and Ben, they dated after the wedding,
Starting point is 01:04:38 even though at the wedding she was like, I don't. And he's like, I don't either for now. Like I think we should still. I saw the clip of them. She was like, we'll see, we'll see. Yeah, he was like, we'll date. And she was like, I don't. And he's like, I don't either for now. Like I think we should still. She was like, we'll see, we'll see. Yeah, he was like, we'll date. And she was like, we'll see. Yeah, I don't know about that. So I was like, okay, you know what, like clean break.
Starting point is 01:04:52 But so they still went on to date and she had this travel nurse contract in Nashville for a couple of months and they were like trying to decide what to do. So the day before she left, she said that they had a conversation that was like, you'll meet me in a couple of days. You don't need to bring your car.
Starting point is 01:05:04 You'll fly out. We'll keep my car, we'll spend however much, she's like, she's like, stay for two weeks, but you can stay for two months, like whatever it is. And then when I come back to Minnesota, we'll figure out our life together. And he left that conversation, allegedly saying we had broken up. And so he never came to Nashville.
Starting point is 01:05:16 She was like, he ghosted me. I'm like, how, how are we seriously, unless there's a language barrier, like it's just so frustrating. We didn't see that conversation. So So so much of the reunion was like, he said she said about things we've never seen. And so like, I actually stopped caring pretty quickly. Yeah. But I just want to say, I think the person who was like committed to her, who then even dated her after she embarrassed him on TV with no cameras there, I don't think he was the
Starting point is 01:05:39 one that ghosted her. Just using context clues. I don't know, she did a better job of explaining. She had like actual, he was just kept saying, I don't remember, I don't remember, I don't remember, I don't remember. And she was like, well, in the conversation, you said X, Y, and she had like real examples from this conversation. And he was just like, oh no, I thought we broke up.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Like it was just such a lazy answer. Like, how do you think you broke up? She was like, what are you talking about? We decided you were gonna leave your car in Minnesota and my car. Like she had actual facts, details from the conversation. And then she also had witnesses because she's like, then I had the 12 hour drive
Starting point is 01:06:11 to Nashville and I called Taylor, who's Daniel's wife, and was talking about it with her. So she has other witnesses to corroborate her story and he was just like the whole time, like, I don't remember, I don't remember. That's so weird. He was literally been like so ride or die for her. So so many things just didn't make sense.
Starting point is 01:06:26 I'm like, you guys dated after? She should have never said yes to him. Like it was just, it was so honestly uninteresting to me. But they liked each other so much. So like she should say yes to him. The final couple from the wedding is Monica and Joey. And they like went really sideways. So she said no.
Starting point is 01:06:45 And then he also was like, yeah, I'm not 100% there. I think they talked a little bit, dated a little bit after, tried to stay friends. Their problem was that they were never really able to get out of the friend zone. Like he was very goofy and funny. And she was like, I didn't even feel, I didn't feel like you'd like to be like,
Starting point is 01:07:00 and he was like, I did, but like, she's like, I had to beg you to like touch me. And like, that's humiliating. And she was like really mad. And then there was like drama where he was like, I did, but she's like, I had to beg you to touch me, and that's humiliating. And she was really mad. And then there was drama where he was sliding into Madison's DMs, all this off camera. And I seriously, he was like, no, I didn't. I ran into you at a bar.
Starting point is 01:07:13 So they're talking, it was a million things we hadn't seen. I ran into Madison at a bar, we had this conversation, and Madison was loving, finally. Anytime, she was a part of a couple different dramas. So whenever the people who were in the couples got the majority of the reunion time. And then there was a second couch with like Molly, people who like didn't make it out of the pods,
Starting point is 01:07:32 but still had drama Meg, Mason, Alex, Ben Platt. And so whenever Madison was like plucked from the loser couch to like talk, she was like having her moment. You know, she had like screenshots in her titties and she was like, so like living. She was trying to have a moment. She had like screenshots in her titties and she was like so like living. She was trying to have a moment.
Starting point is 01:07:46 I don't know why. I do not believe one word that comes out of her mouth. She's so sinister. Like I just, I couldn't stand her. So she got brought into the Monica and Joey drama. She was like, well, you messaged me and I thought that was really, she loves big words like manipulative, yada yada.
Starting point is 01:08:04 Oh, one thing I wanted to say that I actually really appreciated Lauren saying was like to Dave, I know you're getting like a lot of hate and I've seen like, you know, people calling you a narcissist and a manipulator and like, I know what those words mean, like you're not that, like you're just like a dick. But I-
Starting point is 01:08:16 Yeah, it's just someone like didn't like me and like wouldn't just tell me that and instead blamed it on me. I really appreciated her saying that because like this cast in particular loves big words. And you're a manipulator, you're a narcissist. And she was like, you're not, you're just like an ass, but you're not a narcissist.
Starting point is 01:08:30 And he was like, I really appreciate you saying that. I'm sure he's been getting a lot of hate. Just, you know, people, you're an abusing narcissist. And she was like, you're not. Yeah, right, like you're not. I just hate you, but you're not. You weren't the best. You weren't a good boyfriend.
Starting point is 01:08:41 And Madison is very like that. She loves big words. And so she had called someone like manipulator. She called Mason a manipulator and everybody started laughing. They're like, you know Mason, he's like the weirdest person. Like he's not a manipulator. And so then they went to the loser couch
Starting point is 01:08:55 to talk about like the Meg Mason Alex Madison drama with a side of Molly. And oh my God, the way I couldn't care. Like it was so, I'm sorry. Like the breakdown that you guys are looking for you're not gonna get it from me. Like all I have to say is losers. Like I can't, I don't trust Madison.
Starting point is 01:09:11 I don't believe Madison. She had these like receipts that she pulled printed and like left in her bra and pulled it out. She thought she was having like a reality TV viral moment. And she's such a tryhard. Her receipts, I'm sorry, proved nothing. She's like, I have proof that you said you hated Mason. And she goes on reading these weird conversations
Starting point is 01:09:27 between her and Ben Platt and he didn't say that. Like he quite literally didn't. So I just, I could not stand. Meg and Mason dated on and off for the last year, but they really figured out that they're better as friends. They did a reveal when they met for the first time they had someone film them. It was really cute.
Starting point is 01:09:44 They showed it to us. Like I really wish that they had worked out but Meg totally had his back. Like it was Meg Mason and Ben Platt, who is Alex, all against Madison. Like she couldn't believe she was like, why is it that when a woman does something that a man does,
Starting point is 01:09:57 Docky, I couldn't fucking take it. Like she's seriously awful. I can't stand. Like it was just crazy. What's Ben Platt up to? He must be for stand. Like it was just- Crazy. What's Ben Platt up to? He must be thrilled. He did not say one word. He had three seconds of time and he just used it to say,
Starting point is 01:10:13 but he also, I think they cut him out. There've been some like really crazy things said about him on social media. He's like a teacher and had like inappropriate relations, like really dark stuff. So I did Ben Platt Mason, Alexander, Alex. Yeah. Excuse me.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Yeah. So I think they probably wanted to show as little of him as possible and they did just that. Okay. I'll have to dig in. So let me make sure I didn't miss anyone. No, that you're armpit receipts. Oh, and then they were really wasting time being like the top five moments
Starting point is 01:10:48 in Netflix's Love is Blind history. What do they have as number one? You are going to choke when you see. And that was like a good one, but that's not number one. They had Lauren and Cameron Hamilton as their reveal as number two. I'm sorry, that should have been number one. They had the Megan Fox Chelsea moment.
Starting point is 01:11:05 That definitely is one. It was so annoying. Like it was so annoying. And then they had- What's the name of that guy from season one? The diamond. It was diamond and- I don't remember his name,
Starting point is 01:11:17 but when they broke up in season one on the honeymoons, like that- Because he did not share that he was bisexual, which is something you have to share. She just wanted to talk about it. And then he like made fun of her way and left. It was, and through the rain and the bull. And she made fun of him like,
Starting point is 01:11:28 go get on another dick boy. That was like actually one of the craziest moments ever. That is the number one moment is the fact that they won't be honest about that. It didn't even make top five. Like you're not serious about this countdown. Then they had this like collage in Minnesota Vikings, like making, like they filmed themselves
Starting point is 01:11:46 like talking to the Love is Blind cast. It was so stupid. And then the craziest thing happened. Okay. Someone who we love, and this is not a slight against him, Alex Warren, performed. Oh, I didn't know it was Alex Warren. So Alex Warren, who was, we were talking about him
Starting point is 01:12:03 on the show a couple of weeks ago, former Hype House member turned like Lewis Capaldi singer. He sings like a bunch of songs you guys definitely know. They were like, for our first time ever, we have a performer. So not only was the performer not in the room with them, it was like a prerecorded video that Alex had like singers and dancers and they were all doing it in the pods.
Starting point is 01:12:19 Like it was so weird. Like one drummer was in one pod and Alex was in another. On a completely different stage, it wasn't live. So you see the cast like dancing and they're watching it on a TV. Like it was the strangest thing I've ever seen in my life. That's insane. I don't even know how to recap it.
Starting point is 01:12:39 Like it was a cool music video for Alex. It was a music video. It was all, it was like edited. It was not live. Was it a new song? Had you heard it before? Yeah, I had. It's from TikTok.
Starting point is 01:12:51 It's like, hand is up in the clouds. You know that one? I don't know, probably. I'm familiar with him. Whatever. It was a good performance, no shade. I liked that moment for him.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Huge global stage, but what on earth? That's really crazy. And that was another thing that happened this whole season like a good performance, no shade. I liked that moment for him, like a huge global stage, but what on earth? Like what? And that was another thing that happened this whole season was like the music was so amazing. They were playing Gracie Abrams. Like, talk about a less worthy group for this soundtrack. Like there wasn't a moment this season that I was moved that I laughed.
Starting point is 01:13:19 It was horrible. And I'm sorry, they literally gave the worst look into like life in the Midwest. I don't think they should ever return to the Midwest because the people were horrible. Everything was horrible. Thank God we got Taylor and Daniel. It was just horrible.
Starting point is 01:13:34 And every single person, what I learned from the reunion, every single person turned out to be somebody completely different than they were on the show. Like that's so frustrating. Joey, like the big, you know, girl did retrieve her hat. Like that's so frustrating. Joey, like the big, you know, a girl did retrieve her hat. Like he's messaging Madison. Like they're all, I don't know if they all made each other look bad
Starting point is 01:13:51 or they're all just like were acting, but it was really fucking annoying to like, I left hating everyone. Yeah, I feel like this season loses a lot of credibility because only one couple got together. I feel like you could have, you know, explained away the boring, like, okay, it's not the greatest, but if true love was found,
Starting point is 01:14:06 it was just because these are boring people who want to find love, but because it wasn't even that, it's like, so what did we all just watch? Well, attempt to watch. I'm sorry, like these outfits, Devin, did you see what Devin was wearing? Jackie, they looked so crazy.
Starting point is 01:14:19 That's what I'm saying. The reason why this season was so bad was because it was this group of extremely ordinary, extremely uncool, extremely uninteresting, extremely not stylish. Like they were just dreadful. Like dreadful. Those things also are sometimes why it's great.
Starting point is 01:14:33 Like it's just regular people. And it has to, you have to be like regular to really want this to work. Otherwise you're coming on for the fame. If you know, and you're, I don't know. It's a delicate balance. And this was an L. I hated every minute, every minute of this season.
Starting point is 01:14:47 And I'm literally filing a class action lawsuit against Netflix for my time. I already lost an hour with Daylight Savings. When I think of, oh, and you know my ass, I skipped through that wedding episode so fucking hard. I watched the whole reunion, cause like they did a good job of making the trailer look like it was gonna be interesting.
Starting point is 01:15:02 Oh my God, biggest waste of my fucking time. Like seriously, I'm so sorry to any, if I like influenced anybody to watch it because my recaps were so funny. Yeah. And I'm sorry, that's like kind of the blessing and the curse of being this funny. You know what, but all in all,
Starting point is 01:15:13 it was like less than a month total of TV because we started it that week that you were here. And so it was like three weeks. That's good. They did too much. I hope they learn from this season. They really need to cut down the wedding episodes and there were four weddings, not even a lot.
Starting point is 01:15:28 Cut down the pods. Being almost two hours, cut down the pods. Honestly, if there's so much happening after the season, pick up your cameras. And also if producers are producing people and there's say a love triangle or a square, encourage everyone to get engaged. I wanna see all four people from the square
Starting point is 01:15:45 and the honeymoon. I wanna see them see each other by the pool. We spent so much of the pods talking about Meg, Mason, Alex and Madison, and they were not in Honduras. The best dynamics are when people who were between two people see the other person, talk to the other person. Barnett and Jessica.
Starting point is 01:16:01 Jessica and... No, but Jessica wasn't in a break at that lake. The party at the lake. That was a good season. It was an amazing season. That was another moment. That was another moment that was in the top. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:16:14 So another moment that was in the top five, Jackie was at the lake party. Oh no, before the lake party, Jeremy getting his Apple watch left in the car. Remember Laura? Yeah. she ate him up. That was a good, and it really, they shouldn't have done that because it really highlighted,
Starting point is 01:16:29 there wasn't one noteworthy moment this season that even compares to any of the moments from the top five. That's really what I will say, like encourage the triangles and the rhombuses to all come, we can partner swap when we get there, but like that's what's best. And the fact that like there was a square and no one got together, Mason, Madison, Ben.
Starting point is 01:16:49 Cut the whole thing, I don't wanna watch it. Yeah. So. Okay. Now it's time for White Lotus. Jackie and I both had two episodes to catch up on. Like, I don't even know what to say, nothing happened. I was so bored. I just, the only redeeming quality of the show
Starting point is 01:17:05 is two things. One, I love that little girl group. Like I love how they all operate. The conversation about politics was so funny. And then when she sees him like talking shit about her, like I think that like, that's actually very real. And Mike White has said like, no, I was on vacation. I saw these like three women.
Starting point is 01:17:19 And every time one of them got up, they started talking about the girl who left. Like it's very real. I actually really like it. And the dad, Thomas Ravenel. Whatever. The dad is my favorite character. And also now I've learned more about him
Starting point is 01:17:31 as a person in real life. He wore a hostage pin to the Brits. This man is amazing. He's Jewish. I love him so much. Lucius Malfoy is Jewish. And he's literally like, Lucius is a Nazi. He has white hair.
Starting point is 01:17:41 I think there's definitely something Nazi like about the Malfoys. That's like Aryan vibes. I love him. like, I think there's definitely something Nazi like about the Malfoys, like that's like the Aryan vibes. I love him and it hurts me to see him going through it. Like, oh my God, he's such a good actor. I have such a pit every time he comes on stage. I'm like anxious for him. I just want things to work out for him.
Starting point is 01:17:56 Like I want him to have his freedom and his money in his house. And like, it just hurts that like the person that I love the most is really suffering. And now drug addiction, he picks up a gun. The Larazapram is so funny. Parker Posey is a real highlight of the show too. I think they're definitely trying to replicate
Starting point is 01:18:12 the Jennifer Coolidge funny older woman with her and she's doing a really good job. Everything else, my God, is so dreadful. The characters are so stupid. And I liked Guy Tuck and I wanted him and Blackpink girl to get together. I was rooting for him, but he's an idiot and he shouldn't be in charge of the gate.
Starting point is 01:18:30 No, and like what happened to the gate at first, I was like, you know what? You were a merely a victim, but when you left the gun out and then the gate open to go take your girlfriend back to the dance. No, he's so unfocused. Like this is a big hotel. Like you're the person in charge.
Starting point is 01:18:47 The first line of defense. No, and the fact that when she came in, he leaves the gun on the table, it's literally pointing directly at her. That felt like ominous, you know? Well, that's how the whole season opens with the shooting. It's like, that's how the gun gets into the hotel. That's what we're learning.
Starting point is 01:19:01 Is it that gun? I assume it is. I feel like it was a lot of shots in that opening scene and how many bullets was that gun? It was a little gun, right? I don't know. Like, I don't even know what else to say. I know these are the questions we're supposed to be asking.
Starting point is 01:19:15 The couple with the snakes, I forget their names. Rick and Morty? Rick and, yeah, they're my least favorites. I hate them. Like I hate everyone. Yeah, I hope that Saxon and the girl in the pink get together, I ship them. The little brother and then Gary's girlfriend.
Starting point is 01:19:37 And Gary's girlfriend. Oh, got it. Cause like she deserves to have like a life of fun with someone who's like wealthy and we'll treat her right. Well, he's not wealthy anymore, so she won't stay long, but they're having fun. What is she doing with Gary? They dropped the R slur and that doesn't happen a lot.
Starting point is 01:19:52 And it was very powerful. That was funny. When he's talking to his lawyer, he's like, are you fucking? And I was like, oh, you don't hear that word a lot. So when you do it, like it does hit comedically because it's so out of left field. And you're not expecting Thomas Ravenel to say it.
Starting point is 01:20:05 Oh my God, when he was sitting on the deck of the boat having drink after drink, like looking so- Talking about how his dad was the governor. No, no, not in that scene when he's at the bar and then Greg comes over and he's like, the way he's just sitting there, it's Thomas Ravenel. Well, when he talks about how his grandfather was the governor, I'm like, oh, that's Thomas Ravenel.
Starting point is 01:20:22 He is Thomas Ravenel and it's crushing. And I love Thomas Ravenel. It's crushing., oh, that's Thomas Ravenel. He is Thomas Ravenel and it's crushing. And I love Thomas Ravenel. It's crushing. Me too, he's the best character. I love great things for Thomas Ravenel. I'd like to see Belinda who works at the hotel in Hawaii, like putting things together. Okay, but why does she keep looking at her robe
Starting point is 01:20:36 and being spooked? Oh, I don't, oh, was she looking at her robe? I thought she was looking at like that part of the room. Why does she keep looking at that part of her room and being spooked? I think there's like a spooky vibe coming from there. What? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:20:49 Like what? I literally don't know. And how are we supposed to pick up on that? I just wanna say I hate this show. Like I was in so much physical pain watching it. Like to not pick up my cell phone every 10 seconds was a true test of my faith. But when you pick up your phone, like it makes it worse because then you actually have no
Starting point is 01:21:06 idea what's going on. So I didn't pick up my phone, but I did pause to pick up my phone. Watching the first episode seriously took me two hours. I think it was an hour long. And then for the second episode, I did it like turned off the lights and curled. Like I watched it curled up because I'm not on my phone curled up. So I was able to power through better. But you really have to mentally prepare. Oh, and the daughter, oh my gosh, Piper. Piper. Yeah, it's like, she's worried about like her year abroad.
Starting point is 01:21:38 I'm like, girl, there will be no year abroad. Like she's so self-centered and like the mom's going, she withdraws, the dad's on drugs, going to jail. She really thinks she's better than all of them. But if she wants to spend the year abroad, then her dad could be like, oh cool, I'll stay with you. Yeah, oh, he might be her get out of jail free card. Yeah, I feel like they might be aligned actually.
Starting point is 01:21:56 Yeah, yeah, that's a good call. Yeah. Like I just don't care about any of these people. Are we missing anyone? It's a three girls, Rick and Morty, the Ratlifts. Belinda. Belinda, then Guy Tuck, and for some reason, I don't know one person's name in the show,
Starting point is 01:22:12 except Guy Tuck, and Lisa. That's because he wears a pin, a name pin. Oh. Wait, when he thought he was getting promoted, and they're like, dude, you literally let in a robber. Like, you're lucky you didn't get fired. No, but the fact that I thought he was getting fired or at least like demoted to maybe concierge,
Starting point is 01:22:28 like someone whose job it is to just be friendly. He would be amazing at that. And instead they give this guy a gun. Totally. So I hate the show. I like hate watching it. Oh and then the girls like going into town and what's gonna happen with Valentin and his friends?
Starting point is 01:22:44 It's not gonna happen. Oh, I don't know. I don't then the girl's like going into town and what's gonna happen with Valentin and his friends? It's not gonna be good. Oh I don't know, I don't know, it's weird. Yeah. And like partying with your butler, like how desperate are you? No, she's so sad. Yeah, the. Jacqueline. Bridget Moynihan, yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:56 Like your boyfriend doesn't answer you for one day and like you're spiraling out in Thailand. It's quite fun. And then they send her to the geriatric pool, that was funny. That was funny, but she's seriously really scary. I feel like she could be the one with the gun. All three of them are really scary.
Starting point is 01:23:10 Like, I don't know who I like and who I don't like. I definitely don't like the one who lives in New York. Of course, she's like the least likeable one. She's the worst. Yeah. Leslie Bibb like is unoffensive. Like she just doesn't really do or say anything. But she is scary too, because she's like so buttoned up
Starting point is 01:23:27 that you think she's gonna, like she could crack. A burst, yeah. But I love Leslie Bibb as an actress. Me too, I am having a hard time separating the art from the artist. I'm kind of like her character. And then Bridget LA Girl is just dreadful. And just so fake. Holier than now.
Starting point is 01:23:46 Yeah. Like, soulless, almost. These recaps are interesting because the show does a really good job of creating these really developed characters and you learn more about them as time goes on. But in terms of entertaining, I'm watching a show for things to happen.
Starting point is 01:23:59 No, and these recaps are interesting because we did eight minutes talking about the things that happened. But I watched- Right, eight minutes, I watched two hours. I watched over two hours of content for eight minutes of interesting. That's why it's hard to do what we do.
Starting point is 01:24:14 You try being a TV recapper for a day. Try it. I just finished work and it's 5.19. I just finished White Lotus and it's 11.19. It's literally midnight. Okay well we gotta get this episode up and out because everybody needs to know everything. Let em know coach. Thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast in the Morning Show. We deliver the fastest stories in each and every Monday through Friday on YouTube.
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