The Tooney & Russo Show - Behind the scenes at England Camp
Episode Date: June 3, 2024Tooney and Russo give Vick all the gossip from inside the England camp, including Mary Earps’ Oscar winning prank, why Grace Clinton loves hugging trees and the trio get stuck into the ‘lunch or d...inner’ debate. They also discuss how they spend their days on camp and their go to players for support, gossip and laughs.[Episode recorded over 24/04/2024 & 25/04/2024]
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Mary never rings, never really rings,
never mind ringing me.
So I'm like, all right, Mazza.
She's like, tune in, I really need your help.
And I'm thinking, oh oh no don't ask me
like ring someone else she's like please come to my room quick and I'm thinking oh my god what's
going on but I ain't good with criers by the way.
Hello and welcome to the Tooney and Russo show with me, Vicko. I'm here with two of football's most famous friends, Ella Toon and Alessia Russo.
The girls have promised that nothing is off limits, as always.
So be prepared for anything and everything here on the Toonie and Russo show.
Hello again.
Hello.
Here we are.
Back again.
Back again.
I'm really growing into my role as third wheel in this friendship i'm really enjoying it i feel like third wheel tonight i've not got the cardigan memo
oh no one texts me saying bring your card tonight this is probably a good time to say that if you
would like to see what less than i are wearing, spoiler alert, cardigans,
this is all available on YouTube,
so you can watch us.
What's wrong with the cardigans?
No, no, I'm not saying anything's wrong.
I just feel dead left out over here.
Just didn't get the cardigan memo.
And it's been happening a few times on this pod
where I've been feeling a little bit left out.
What, as the other time?
What do you mean?
I think it's because we both like country music
and she doesn't.
You can listen to it if you want.
I actually went on camp and said,
was talking about it.
I was like, yeah, well,
Vicky's meant to be the third wheel
and at the minute I feel like that it's me.
It's not you.
She's dramatic, isn't she?
Come on.
You could have let me know you were bringing Cardi, so.
Got loads at home, I could have brought.
I don't think I even we have a separate
whatsapp that we've been
that won't surprise me I'm kidding we don't
but actually we don't have a
whatsapp yet we need to make
one don't we yeah and then we can
give memos about what we're going to wear
then you can let me know what you're going to wear
blue jeans and a cardigan.
These are such different blues.
They are so different blues.
All right.
We've actually talked on a previous episode about what you're like in the group WhatsApp.
And that was kind of more on a sort of football team level.
But as friendship groups, are you quite active?
Do you keep the conversation going?
Yeah, I'm active, yeah.
But I feel like you can mute us.
Oh, I shouldn't have told you.
If we don't hear you, you're free.
You can't mute us.
Because you've muted us.
Oh, now you know.
Yeah.
I promise that if we ever WhatsApp group, the three of us,
I will not mute you.
Okay.
God promise.
What's it going to be called?
That's a good question.
Cardies and Toonies.
Yeah. A few episodes ago, actually, Okay, God promise. What's it going to be called? That's a good question. Cardies and Toonies.
A few episodes ago, actually, we were almost sidetracked because we were starting to talk about what it's like being in camp on England duty.
And we were like, you know what, there's just so much, there's so much to get into.
So that's what this episode is going to be all about.
You mentioned once, actually, the night before the Euros that the curtains kept opening
I had a little thought
after we went home
from that recording
I was thinking
that could have been
sabotage
that could have been
the Germans
trying to put you off
yeah
could have been
people like
set fireworks off
and stuff outside hotels
that's what I'm saying
does that happen much
like pure sabotage
I don't think
that's happened to us
no
one time we had a
when I can't remember who we played to us, has it? No. One time we had a...
I can't remember who we played.
And if it was with United or England,
I can't remember,
but we were at a hotel
and the fire alarm went off dead early before a game.
Oh, yeah.
Really early, yeah.
We were on the car park in our PJs.
With foil around us.
I think that was United.
I'd be suspicious of those moves.
Yeah.
And we all sat on the team bus, didn't we?
Yeah.
That was United, yeah. It was'clock in the morning I'm not advocating this obviously
I could never
FA don't get in touch
but if you were, just hypothetically
if you were to sabotage another team
what would the tactics be
food poisoning
she doesn't want to say it
evil
I wipe them all out
it's cold
it's savage
and I love it
yeah that's true
what is camp like
do you enjoy that time
because it feels like
it must be so much fun
yeah
we do have a lot of fun
don't we
there's a lot of time
that you need to like
not kill but find things to do you know we always play partners that takes up hours and hours of
our time um but I absolutely love it um and that's I do look forward to going on camp to play partners
yeah and see each other I've got a friend coming out my top I thought you're trying to hide your
bruise yeah my bruise is okay what. Yeah, are you okay? What happened?
It was in training.
Some girl just pinched me.
No.
I was, like, running with the ball,
and then she must have grabbed me like that,
but, like, must have clawed me.
And, yeah, got some really ugly bruise.
It's not sore anymore, but it's been there a week.
Have you been injured a lot?
Have you broken anything?
Touchwood, no. Not in football football but I have broke my collarbone when I was younger and I broke my wrist as well both like
not playing football properly but I was in um primary school and someone kicked the ball really
hard and it broke my wrist then I was on holiday I was kicking a ball up against the wall and then
I slipped and fell backwards and landed on my collarbone and yeah that was really bad I was on Yn ystod y hwyl, roeddwn i'n cwylio'r golwg ar y dyn ar y dyn, ac wedyn mi wnaethon i ddynu a llwyddo i'r ôl ac wedi llwyddo ar fy ngwylio.
Ie, roedd hynny'n ddrwg iawn.
Roeddwn i'n ystod y hwyl am ddwy oed, ac roedd mam yn dweud,
«Rhywbeth, pan fyddwch yn dod yn ôl, mae angen i chi ddod i'ch osbital».
Ac roeddwn i'n dweud, «Ni, mam, mae'n iawn!».
Roeddwn i'n ei swynhau'n ymlaen fel hyn.
Ac roedd hi'n fwyaf yn gweithio.
Efallai y gwnaethon ti'n gweithio'n fwy.
Ie, efallai y gwnaethon ti'n gweithio.
Ond mae'n anodd gyda'r cwylio, oherwydd ni allwch chi ei roi mewn cast neu unrhyw beth.
Ie.
Ie, felly roedd hynny'n digwyddol. Lesley, wnaethon ti gweithio yn unrhyw beth? hard with the collarbone because you can't put it in a cast or anything yeah so that was a eventful
let's see broken anything i broke my leg in a when i was in college in america a through ball
got played through and i was in a 50 50 with the goalkeeper and i went to like try and chip it and
it was quite a wet night and she came out and she was like sliding and her knee just went straight into my shin and cracked
it was horrible yeah I've had similar yeah what did you do um I was literally and I I promise I
was about to score a goal I was playing at uni for my for the women's team and um this I can't swear this girl um slide tackled me studs up broke it on impact my ankle like my leg yeah
um and they were like go on get up they gave her the free kick it because the ref didn't see oh my
I know and um and they told me to that I should cycle home instead of trying to walk because it would probably be less pressure on it.
And I was like, I think it's broken.
Everyone was like, no, no, no.
But it wasn't.
Yeah, in a cast for eight weeks.
Yeah, it's not fun.
It's not fun.
When you're a kid, being in a cast is really exciting.
Yeah, everyone signs it.
Oh, great.
Absolutely brilliant.
When you get older and you've got to like get the tube
or go to your lectures or try and go to a club or whatever and you're on crampon crutches because it's icy.
It's a real inconvenience.
Oh gosh.
Anyway, we digress.
Hopefully no one's breaking anyone's legs at camp.
But what is the split in time between, you know, playing, training, the professional side of things and then, like you say, like playing partners?
Yeah, I think we train like really hard when we do train we train often in the mornings and then might have gym
after it and then after that you're pretty free we'll have a meeting every now and again but
yeah we normally get the afternoons to kind of just chill out and people go to their rooms they go for a walk they go for treatment
and we play partners yeah basically do you do you have time to have like a good bit of a laugh to
and to let your hair down as well yeah definitely i think when you're at meal times that's probably
when we most like chat together sit around tables have loads of banter and that.
But then when you go away from that, everyone's so different.
Some people just go to the room, play PlayStation or watch films,
whereas a lot of us will sit around, play partners,
or some people sit and have coffees.
So yeah, when you're at mealtimes together,
that's when you're all together and interacting.
How does the manager fit into
the situation does it have that kind of teacher vibe like a school trip or is it
that totally off the mark no I think we you obviously have such like a lot of respect for
the manager and the whole staff in general like you kind of you're obviously work colleagues but
you understand that they're like
your boss like but i think it's really nice like we all have a really nice relationship with the
staff we'll sit and chat and but then at the same time we're playing partners the staff aren't going
to sit with us and play partners they do always they're working yeah they do what what are you
doing again like and you've got to try and explain but the rules are so long yeah you have tried to
explain them here on the podcast, in fact.
Yeah, it's hard work to explain.
But they do always come over and see who's winning.
Everyone who walks past says, who's winning now?
It's usually me and Les.
Me and Timmy.
And are there rules on camper?
Are there rules that you've got to follow about how you spend your time,
things you can and can't do?
When there's, like's like rest time that
is when like you should really like be off feet and be resting but when we're not at St George's
Park and we're elsewhere we're allowed to like go out and have a walk for a coffee and stuff like
that whereas St George's Park there's not really anything to do around there you can't just go out
and you've got to wear shin pads in training and no jewelry oh okay not even like a stud no why is that in in camp but it's the same on the pitch
you know if you're if you're playing or yeah same on the pitch but at club it's not it's not the
same as like at club like i would train in these and my necklace but that's it yeah yeah but yeah
we we at england camp it's really like not like you don't train as you play at club,
but like it's really like you wouldn't do that on a game day,
so you're not doing that now.
Yeah.
So it's getting into that mindset.
Yeah.
Talk to me about the first time you each got your call-ups
to play for England, to play for your country I was in college
in America and I was actually in a geology class oh classic yeah classic literally I've never even
heard of that I think it's like the study of rocks or something oh sounds fun um and yeah I'd had a
missed call from Phil Neville who was the coach at the time and I thought this
is weird like but my class is about to start like what do I do and I thought oh no it's the England
boss like I've got to go out and take it so I left and rang him back and uh I was like hi
whatever and he was like I'm just ringing to let you know
that we're calling you up as a training player.
Originally, I wasn't in the squad,
but then someone got injured.
So then I went as a squad player,
but he was like, we're just going to call you up.
The camp was in America as well.
And I was at college at the time in America.
He was like, it's not going to be far from you.
You'll come in and whatever.
And I was just so
buzzing I think you always are aren't you but um the first one always means a little bit more
is it something you dreamt about it's something that you'd wanted for a while yeah for sure um
and then I think also once you get the first taste it's like oh god like I really want to be back
here yeah so it's like I remember after that camp I was like right I need to be back here. So it's like, I remember after that camp, I was like, right, I need to do this,
I need to do this, I need to get better at this.
Like you kind of feel, get a feel for it
and you're like, right, that's where I want to be,
which is nice.
And I was actually walking the dog
and it was Phil Neville again,
but a year after.
Les' cap number 215.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I'm 216, but one year apart, it's weird
but yeah I was walking the dog
and I had a phone call off Phil Neville
so I answered it and
he was like yeah I'm calling you up
to the next camp
and I was like what do you even say
I was like oh thank you so much
like you don't even know what to say
and he's like I think you really deserve it
you've been playing well, I just want you to come into camp and enjoy it and yeah as soon as he put the phone down dwi'n ddiolch yn fawr iawn. Dydwch chi ddim hyd yn oed yn gwybod beth i'w ddweud. Dwi'n meddwl bod gennych chi'n gwerthiol, rydych chi wedi chwarae'n dda.
Rwy'n hoffi dod i'r camp a mwynhau'r cwmni.
Yn syth, pan roeddwn i'n rhoi'r ffôn i lawr,
fe wnaethon i ddweud i fy mam a'r dad yn gyntaf.
Roeddent yn bwysig.
Yn enwedig, roeddwn i'n mynd i'r camp gyntaf.
Yn ffodus, roeddwn i'n gwybod llawer o'r gwirioneddol o'r gwirioneddol oherwydd roeddwn i'n ym Mhroedd yn y pryd.
O, na, roeddwn i'n ym Mhroedd, sori.
Ond roeddwn i'n gwybod pob gwirioneddol o'r gwirioneddol o'r gwirioneddol o'r pryd.
Felly roedd hynny wedi'i wneud yn fwy haws, ond mae'n dal i chi fod yn hynod o'n nervus. sorry but I knew all the city girls um from when I was there um so that made it a bit easier but
you're still so nervous like like don't talk like yeah and it takes you a while to get into the flow
of training as well because it's such high intensity but yeah like Les said like it was
the best feeling ever and then you just want more after that because you've got to get that call
every time it's not like you can just expect it because it's happened once oh no you can never expect it like no matter how many times you go
away on camp you're still like nervous waiting for the team to be announced again um yeah and
when people talk about camp feel like we always say like if selected yeah no one ever says like
oh on the next camp like on the next camp if selected yeah you've got to make sure you use that like preface
when you are on camp obviously there's that camaraderie because you're the england squad
but is there still that competition because that doesn't necessarily mean you're the starting 11
no it's such high competition training yeah and i think that's what's so good about it like
everyone wants to win everyone wants to it. Like everyone wants to win.
Everyone wants to be the best.
Everyone wants to play for England.
And it's so healthy as well.
It's such healthy competition in training.
Makes you much better as a person and a player.
And at the end of the day,
we're all there to represent our country and to win.
Yeah.
And you're that way inclined.
Like you're the type of people who want to win,
who want to play well.
Like obviously because you all want to be in that team
and there's competitive spirit because of that.
But that's an interesting dynamic.
And what's everyone like at helping each other settle in?
Was there anyone who kind of brought you into the fold?
Any tough nuts to crack?
I feel like when I went in,
I was like really close with Alex Greenwood she was the
captain at United and I'd known her already so it was easy for me to go in and I knew the girls
from City as well Abby McManus was there at the time and she definitely made me feel the most
welcome like she's one of my best friends now through football and she always put her arm around
me like from the day that I met her so to have people like that on camp when you first go in o'r dydd y gwnaethom gyfarfod, felly i gael pobl fel hyn ar y camp pan fyddwch chi'n mynd i mewn yn
blant ifanc, mae'n gwneud yn teimlo'n llawer haws ond mae'n debyg bod chi'n mor anodd hefyd.
Ie, rydych chi. Roedd Abi yn dda iawn ar fy nghymrdd cyntaf hefyd. Mae hi'n
gwneud ychydig o'r ysgolion yn ymlaen i'w ddynu. Ie, ac rwy'n meddwl, oherwydd bod gennym
y profiad hwnnw o'r ffordd mae'n deimlo'n dda i ddod i mewn a bod yn anodd ac mae'n cymryd And I think because we've had that experience of what it feels like to come in and be nervous and it takes a few camps to really settle into it.
I feel like the girls now, probably our age, who all felt like that,
are really good for the ones that are coming through
and try and make it as easy as possible for them to just feel like they can just be themselves straight away.
Unless you said you were nervous, you both did.
What bits are you nervous about ahead of your first camp?
Football.
Yeah, training.
Training.
Like, they're the best in England, and you're so young,
and you probably don't believe in yourself as much as you should,
and you think, why have I even been selected?
But, yeah, it does take a while to get used to it.
Like, even a rondo, a little passing box,
like, I just couldn't even keep the ball. Like yn ymddygiad â'r rondo, er mwyn cael y bobl yn ymddygiad â'r rondo. Dwi ddim yn gallu cadw'r bwrdd, dwi'n cymryd amser yn y cyfnod hwn o rondo.
Ond ie, mae'n sicr yn llwyr i chi ddod yn ymddygiad â'r rondo.
A pha gyngor oedd unrhyw un ohonynt neu unrhyw un o'ch cymharwyr yn rhoi atoch chi?
Roedd Keira Walsh yn dda iawn at that like I really struggled with thinking what other people
thought whereas she was like you're good enough to be here you've been selected to be here so
just go out and do do what you've been doing all season and yeah definitely made it that bit easier
take me back to the world cup in Australia because you're on the other side of the world
and potentially away from home for you, it could be well over a month.
How do you prepare for that?
Like, what are you packing?
It was stressful, wasn't it?
You might,
Les had the biggest suitcase I've ever seen.
It was like she was moving over there for life.
Yeah, I'm an overpacker.
Me too, me too.
I'm not.
Shockers are both overpackers.
I'm just saying I feel your pain.
No, I'm a proper overpacker.
So, yeah, it was stressful knowing what to pack.
And we were moving around a lot as well.
I hate that.
I hate when you can't just get everything out of your suitcase
because you're moving next
week you've got to leave it all in it's like you're backpacking around australia and also
you need some casual clothes but then you get given casual clothes when you go there
and then your suitcase is filled with clothes that you don't ever wear yeah when you're there
yeah that is very true how many trainers do you bring? You need one pair of gym trainers,
a pair for game day,
your favourite trainers,
and then slides, Birkenstocks. Yeah, you're like a Birkenstock.
Really, all you need is pyjamas and your shoes,
and that's it.
Here we are, Les has got a case that'll fit ten people in it.
You could have definitely fit in my case.
Oh, 100%, yeah.
What about home comforts, anything that you take?
It's like being on the road.
Like, I know from friends who are touring musicians, for example,
there's certain things that you want to have.
When we go to tournaments, it's really nice.
I remember at the Euros, England got in touch with our families
and our families sent us, like, care packages.
In mine, it had, like, a big sign that said good luck ella loads of pictures
of my family and friends um when i went to the world court my boyfriend sorted out a big book
and he'd been around to all my family and all my friends and they'd all stuck a picture in of me
and them and then they'd wrote like a really nice message and it was so thoughtful and i'd read it
like all the time the night before the game i'd read it and I'd just be crying yeah I was gonna say get your money yeah because you'd be
like I'm so proud of you you're gonna do amazing and yeah I've kept that which is
really nice but those little things when you go away for so long just to look
back on and see pictures of your family and friends it's really nice is that an
emotion that you want to tap into the night before you play like missing home because i don't know it can be something that you harness and it actually really helps you
yeah i quite like it i i chose to read that book the night before every game
because it made me step out onto the pitch and want to do it for them and remind me of how far
i've come and and how much they've played a part in in that journey so yeah I I like stuff like
that yeah and Les do you have any home comforts in your massive case you know what I didn't actually
have that many home comforts I love English tea yeah but they they brought that over didn't they
do you like what is what you're saying well you're putting me on the spot here because you know that
the answer is yes and then you're gonna get upset that we like the same thing.
Do you not like to?
I don't like to, you know.
Well, that's on you and not me.
Ella, I'm just going to say.
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Now we have mentioned her a lot on this pod already
and I don't think that's a surprise
but Manchester United and England goalkeeper
Mary Earps recently said
that if something went missing in camp
it would, I quote,
it would 100% be Ella and Alessia.
Tooney would thieve, she said.
Alessia would distract.
She said that.
I don't know if you could team like that.
Yeah, we would
but why is she
calling me a thief
to be fair
we did rob
a Milky Bars
there you go
that's why
she loves Milky Bars
and yeah
we did take a few of them
when I'm just thinking
of Mary saying
that we'd be the thief
and I'd be the distraction
it just makes me think
of when
you had to get up
with a spasm.
Oh, it was so funny.
So basically, it was Toonie's birthday on camp.
So me and Katie Zellum were like, well, we need to get Toonie out of a room
so we can go into a room, put up banners, put up balloons.
That's nice, isn't it?
Yeah.
And then we hid under the bed with these party hats on and shouted happy happy birthday when she came in so we did that and we were like Mary we
need you to distract Toonie to get her out of her room because we're attached at the hip-on camp so
wherever Toonie is I am so we text Mary and she was like we need you to help distract Toonie
and get her out of her room so Mary texts you
didn't she? No she rang me and I thought that's weird
like Mary never rings
never really rings, never mind ringing
me, so I'm like alright Mazza
she's like Toonie I really
need your help and I'm thinking oh no
don't ask me, like ring
someone else, she's like please
come to my room quick and I'm thinking oh my god
what's going on, I ain't good with criers by the way quick. And I'm thinking, oh my God, what's going on?
I ain't good with criers, by the way.
So anyway, I'm panicking, shut my room,
runs out, runs down the corridor.
I'm like, I'm coming, Mary, I'm coming.
It's gonna be all right.
Don't know what's going on.
And in the meantime, we'd gone and got a key
for Toonie's room.
So we let ourselves into Toonie's room,
started decorating, thinking this is all good.
And Toonie's obviously panicking.
So I get to the room and and it's on the latch,
and I'm like, so I put the phone down,
I'm like, Mary?
She's like, I'm in here, I'm in here!
And I'm like, right.
So I go in the bathroom.
And she's like, in the bath,
and she's like, I've got a back spasm,
I can't get out of the bath!
And I was like, oh, you want me to get you out?
So I'm like, all right, like, we don't really know what to do.
Anyway, she's half hanging out of the bath.
And she's like, oh.
And, like, falls back in.
And I'm like, Mary, I'm, like, getting you out here.
She's like, oh, don't worry, I'll stay here.
Bearing in mind, I've been in the room for about 20 minutes.
Mary's taking her performance out of, like, serious.
Mary thought she was winning an
award like she thought she was like an act an actress like she was proper taking it seriously
so anyway it gets her half out and I'm thinking you could have got out there like what you're
doing but also how did you put the door on that yeah I don't know it was all a bit mad anyway so
I'm like oh she's like don't worry it's fine i'll get out at some point
i'm like all right in a bit so i'll leave and then as i get back to my room these two idiots jump out
and like surprise and i'm just a bit thingy about the whole mary situation but it's traumatic for
you it was traumatic yeah i was thinking wow this girl's like seriously got a back spasm i was like
i don't know what's gonna happen here and if she did have a back spasm would she call you no doubt it not me yeah she'd call
less yeah so yeah mary's a distractor yeah that is why mary thinks but she's saying that you're
the fever and that you'd be the distractor yeah Why would she say that? I think because maybe I'm too scared
to actually be the thief.
That's true.
Yeah, but that's not in my nature
to be the thief.
Yeah, for chocolate and stuff.
I think you're better at
talking to people.
You know what I mean?
I think, yeah, because people might not suspect you.
Yeah, true. They would suspect you.
A more classic thief.
A little thieving too.
I mean, apart from a very necessary distraction
to get you out of the room for your birthday,
do any other sort of pranks go on in camp?
Is that a thing that you do?
It's not really, is it?
We don't really prank a lot.
We make each other jump. Right jump right oh that's so easy
to make to make a jump yeah like you don't really jump yeah you should try
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to be a part of our conversation where you get to ask Ella and Alessia a question,
anything you want.
And this week's question is from Issa,
who asks,
who makes you laugh the most
when you're away with England,
when you're on camp?
Toonie.
That's easy.
I think I really boost your ego.
Oh, Les makes me think I'm hilarious.
You are hilarious.
Yeah, but I'm so funny when I'm with Les.
You know what makes me laugh about you?
That you're laughing at me.
Yeah.
I laugh at Les's laugh.
And then she starts laughing with it.
Les's laugh is funny.
Yeah.
I find Keira quite funny.
She does make me laugh.
Yeah.
Trying to think about it.
I find Millie funny, but that's just because she's, like, an idiot.
Yeah, but I spend a lot of time with Mill,
so sometimes I get, like, a bit irate with her, don't I?
Yeah, but that's just because you're, like, sisters.
Yeah, I think everyone's quite funny.
Mary's a funny person.
Yeah, Mary.
Like, she's not, like, funny like Toonie,
but she's, like, you laugh at Mary sometimes for what she does.
She will admit to that.
She's just, like like got a really great character
that is just like entertaining.
I've told her that we've been speaking about her on the podcast
and she's buzzing.
Yeah, I bet she is.
She was like, oh right, what were you saying?
Oh, it's all entertainment.
Who's on the flip side the most serious
or a bit difficult to get a smile out of?
Because they're focused.
I think who's most like focused and determined would be bronzy yeah like lucy bronze is like
but she has a good sense of humor so competitive yeah but she is proper funny it makes me really
happy to hear that everyone has got a good sense of humor yeah i think you have to yeah yeah you do
yeah why do you say that why in that dressing room in particular I just think in football dressing rooms you have to have like you've got to be able to
take a bit of banter yeah or else you'd be struggling I think it's part of being in a team
as well isn't it yeah and you spend so much time together so you you've got to get used to like
having bits of banter here and there and people calling you for something but I like it and you'll
just bounce off of each
other as well yeah well good question Issa thank you so much if you do have a question or something
you want to discuss you want us to discuss make sure you use the Toonie Russo hashtag or drop
your question in the comments on YouTube I would actually like to know when we're talking about
the dynamics and the characters in the team is there anyone that you really
look forward to catching up with when you're aware that camps around the
corner it's coming I'm gonna get to see everyone who are you so excited to see I
know you'll say each other which is absolutely fine but who else I like to
see Esme oh nice yeah me and Esme really really get dda. Ie. Rydyn ni, Esme, yn cymryd cyfnod iawn gyda phobl gwahanol iawn. Ond rwy'n hoffi gwrando arno.
Mae hi'n siarad mor...
Ie.
Felly, sut i ddangos hynny?
Mae hi'n siarad mor...
Mae hi'n mor ddiddorol.
Ie, mae hi'n ddiddorol.
Fe allaf i ddysgu i'w siarad ymlaen.
Ie, mae hi'n ddiddorol.
Ond rydyn ni wedi gwneud llawer o amser gyda'i gilydd pan roeddem yn y ddynion.
Felly mae'n dda dod yn ôl i'r camp Cymru a chael ychydig o gysylltiadau. Ond rwi'n meddwl mai dyna'r un peth gyda llawer o bobl sydd ddim yn cael eu gweld llawer.
Rwy'n mwynhau cwmniadau gyda Niamh a Hempo.
Ie, dyna un da.
Ie. Dwi wedi gwybod Niamh am flynyddoedd. Ac pan oedden ni'n ymdrin, roedden ni'n
cymaint iawn. Ie, hi a Hempo yw fel mi a Toonie. Rwy'n med a double act. Yeah. So it's nice to have a little catch up with them too.
And there will be those players that maybe you did used to spend time with,
but you don't get a chance so much now until you're all together as the England squad.
Yeah.
I mean, I always love seeing Toonie and Mary and all of that lot as well.
But yeah, you sit with different people at dinner all the time.
So you're always having different conversations which is nice so it's not like little groups forming it's the same people
who hang out together who eat together well all the time we always sit next to each other at dinner
or at meal times but then we'll just sit with like whoever's on the table so like we're always there and then whoever's sat there, we'll just join them. Yeah. Who do you go to for advice or a hug or support?
Is there an agony ant character amongst the squad?
I would always go to Les, but I also go to Mary a lot.
Yeah, Mary would be mine.
Yeah, Mary, because she's so experienced
and she's been through so much in her career
that she's really, like, relatable
and you can always go to her and she'll be truthful with you
and she'll tell you straight, like, what she thinks.
And although we're best friends, we're not really huggers.
No.
If I wanted a hug, I'd go to Grace Clinton.
Oh, yeah, everyone would go to Grace.
Yeah.
But she's sometimes too much, like, dangling off my neck.
And I'm like, Grace. Yeah, she's a proper hugger yeah she does love a hug what's the the reason
for the hugs is it just no reason she's just like a little sloth that's what i call her like
she's like a little but she likes to hug like she would like to hug serena yeah she loves hugging
like anything and anyone even like there's a lot of times where i'm like she's
hugging me and i'm not hugging her back and it's just a bit weird really but she loves it like she
just doesn't let go and she said to me on the camp just gone she went have you ever uh hugged a tree
and i went no grace i haven't have you she went yeah and i'm just gonna do one like later like
we were going on a walk she was like i'm gonna hug one later as yeah and i'm just gonna do one like later like we were going
on a walk she was like i'm gonna hug one later as well and i was like you're such a weirdo
what's what's why do you do that why would she do that i don't know well as someone who has
hugged a few trees um it is good it does help you feel closer to the nature and the world around you
oh she's quite in that yeah she's into that she that. She got me into, not like, I'm not big into it,
but she got me my own crystal.
Oh, nice.
That I carry around with me.
I forgot what it means now.
But it is on me all the time.
If you do get an opportunity to hug a tree,
I do recommend.
Okay.
Maybe like a Canadian redwood.
One way you can get your arms fully around it
and touch your other hands.
That would be nice.
With a redwood, you won't be able to.
That's a bit big.
It's fat, but it's soft.
If you punch it, it doesn't hurt you.
I don't know what one of them looks like.
No, neither do I.
Not that you would want to punch a tree.
That'd be weird.
That'd be really weird.
Yeah.
But I'm just saying, I get where she's coming from.
A Canadian redwood.
Yeah.
But yeah, me and Les probably never hug.
No.
But you hug each other.
Oh, no. We rarely hug. Oh, you But you hug each other? Oh, no.
We rarely hug.
Oh, you don't hug each other?
No.
But I was talking to Leah on camp, I think,
and she was like, that's the same with her and Kira.
Yeah, I can't imagine them ever hugging.
Yeah.
They're not like hugging friends.
I would probably hug like Millie and Grace more than less.
Like, I don't know what it is.
No, no.
I just don't really hug them.
Your friendship's transcended hugging. Yeah. Yeah. Weird. i hug you when i'm not seeing you for ages yeah but if i ever needed
anything like you'd be the first person i come to yeah i mean if you were crying i would put my hand
on you give me a little pat on your shoulder yeah you would but is hugging the manager a no-go
because you said about serena there it's not a no-go? Because you said about Serena there. It's not a no-go.
When you first come to camp, you give Serena a hug.
When you say hello, yeah.
But Grace probably hugs for a lot longer than other people.
Yeah, you know that person that just doesn't let go.
Yeah, that's Grace.
That's Grace, right.
Who in the team has all the gossip?
Bethmead.
Yeah.
Oh.
Yeah.
I think Bethmead likes the gossip.
I don't know what's going on half the time
Beth Mead likes a bit
of a gossip
yeah
and what do you think
you two would be known for
always being together
yeah I was just about
to say that
but never hugging
oh you're never apart
you two
yeah
what are you two
getting up to
you look like you're
getting up to something
yeah
oh when you get one
you get the other
yeah
oh there she is she's not far behind you we get all of that every day yeah don't bother
me though no it doesn't bother me either thieving and distracting yeah there's the thieves what about
um the food at camp it's good is it it's good you've got to be nourished you've got to be strong
yeah the chefs are really good aren aren't they? The live stations,
they do like a live station in the morning.
And then on a day before a game.
Sorry, a live station?
Yeah, so like he'll be cooking some stuff.
Oh, okay.
So he'll be cooking omelettes,
he does pancakes, poached eggs, scrambled eggs.
Oh, his pancakes are good.
Yeah, you like a pancake, don't you?
The night before a game,
we both get pasta
and we like have this little concoction.
We double up, so he makes a big batch and then splits it in half for both of us. Yeah, and then we both get pasta and we like, have this little concoction. We double up,
so he makes a big batch
and then splits it in half
for both of us.
and then we both have it.
So we get like,
a mix of tomato sauce
and creamy sauce,
chorizo,
spinach,
Fusilli?
Yeah.
Fusilli.
Yeah.
Chorizo,
spinach,
broccoli,
onions,
and then,
yeah,
and then he takes
toonies out
and then he puts chilli and sun-dried
tomatoes in mine give it the extra kick she doesn't like that would you have the second don't
would you have the second yes i would i'm nigerian i like a bit of spice all right
oh you've got you've got to be eating well like Yeah, it is nice. We do eat well.
And on Sundays we have a roast.
Yeah, he makes a roast.
The steaks are always lovely, aren't they?
Do you get to choose what you eat in advance?
Can you say, can you put in some suggestions of what you feel like eating?
I think we always have, like,
we always give feedback on what we like
and what we want more of.
Like, recently we've said, like,
really like jacket
potatoes for dinner so now i have a jacket potato every day yeah it's feedback you know
dinner's lunch would you say breakfast dinner uh i i would say sometimes i say tea for what
southerners say is dinner is it so what yeah which so i say breakfast dinner tea
yeah and i would say breakfast lunch dinner
okay i would usually would you say breakfast lunch dinner
but i'm enjoying it so i should say breakfast dinner tea and you should and no and i should
i should and i sometimes do and i actually every monday i do every we have a feature on our show
called what you have for your tea and we're talking about dinner.
And I will say tea for dinner then.
Okay.
Right.
All right.
Yeah.
So both of you, I am just like both of you.
Yeah.
Trying to be so diplomatic.
We do always have a debate about this.
Yeah, we do.
All the Northerners say dinner tea and all the Southerners say lunch, dinner.
Lunch and dinner.
Like I would never say dinner for lunch.
I would say dinner for lunch.
But what do you call them people in school, the ladies?
Dinner lady.
She's right.
That's my case.
Do you ever say, I'll do it on my lunch break,
like people say at work, you know?
No, I don't say break.
That's what I'm saying.
Right, it's dinner time now.
And the dinner ladies are here.
You sound like Mr. Wolf.
Dinner time.
That's a big argument, isn't it?
We really agree to disagree on that.
Okay, anyone listening, is it tea or is it dinner?
You know what game we like to play sometimes?
We'll say, right, you go into the shop,
you've got to buy one drink.
Then we go around the table and we're like,
ooh, you'd buy an iron brew,
no way.
Yeah.
For example,
I would like an iron brew,
but like,
or we'd go,
right,
now you've got to buy one chocolate bar,
and we'll go around the table.
And one time I said chocolate raisins.
Oh,
I nearly vomited on the table.
At the time,
I was really into,
what?
No,
at the time,
I can't remember,
I must have had them a couple times,
and I was like, oh, I really like chocolate raisins at the moment.
Everyone was gobsmacked.
But your chocolate bar of choice would be chocolate raisins.
No, I just said at that time I really liked chocolate raisins.
Oh, you're not liking them anymore?
I haven't had them for about a year.
Yeah, God.
Yeah.
We really get to know a person, don't you?
Yeah.
It's those insights.
And we like to ask each other what a meal deal they would choose.
Yeah, meal deals are a big, big one.
What would be your meal deal choice?
Well, so there was a time when there was one of them
used to do a sandwich that was like brown seeded bread
with prawns and smoked salmon and rocket inside.
Oh, nice.
Now, I felt like I was getting a lot of bang for my buck
because I was getting that as part of the
meal deal as well as I would go for crisps I'd go for a crinkly crisp what kind of crisp
you like a crinkly crisp yeah yeah
something beefy
I'd probably I'd go for an orange juice
a fresh orange juice
over a fish
bits or no bits
bits
oh no
what
I hate bits
just like something
I like Julia
I know I like it smooth too
alright
oh I hate bits
don't I
yeah
she's like
do you want some orange juice
I'm like
can you let me know
if I like it or not
because if it's got
the tiniest of bits in I just can't drink it you need to orange juice I'm like can you let me know if I like it or not because if it's got the tiniest of bits in
I just can't drink it
you need to carry a sieve around with you
oh this guy right
I was moaning to Les dead loud
I was like I hate bits in orange juice
you know
and I shout when I'm talking
and then this guy came over to me and said
Ella I've just sieved all the bits out for you
how cute is that
it was so cute.
He said, I'm sorry for overhearing your conversation,
but I've sieved all the bits out of the orange juice for you.
It was really sweet.
I was like, that is the nicest thing anyone's ever done for me.
Yeah, that was really cute.
I know now the way to your heart.
Yeah, sieve the bits out of the orange juice.
I'm going to take the bits out of your orange.
Put that on a T-shirt.
I'm going to take the bits out of your orange juice. I on a t-shirt. I'm going to take the bits out of your orange.
I have seen a little sieve.
I've seen it in the shop.
It's a long story as to why I was looking at it,
but I have seen a little sieve.
I'm going to get it.
I thought about getting it and I thought,
I've got no reason for that.
I found the reason.
You found the reason.
And the reason is you.
I would sieve the bits out of your orange, Jeeves.
Oh, thank you.
Oh, thank you so much, both of you,
for taking me and the listeners inside the England camp.
I feel like we got those insights.
We've enjoyed learning what goes on in there.
And I hope that Ella is enjoying her role
as the third wheel in our relationship.
I'm loving it.
I would sieve the bits out of your orange juice.
And I mean that when I say it.
I'll see you next episode.
It's been an absolute treat.
Woo!
Yay! orange juice and I mean that when I say it. I'll see you next episode. It's been an absolute treat. Thank you for tuning in to
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