The Tooney & Russo Show - Behind the scenes at England Camp

Episode Date: June 3, 2024

Tooney and Russo give Vick all the gossip from inside the England camp, including Mary Earps’ Oscar winning prank, why Grace Clinton loves hugging trees and the trio get stuck into the ‘lunch or d...inner’ debate. They also discuss how they spend their days on camp and their go to players for support, gossip and laughs.[Episode recorded over 24/04/2024 & 25/04/2024]

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Starting point is 00:00:27 cargurus.ca. BBC Sounds. Music, radio, podcasts. Mary never rings, never really rings, never mind ringing me. So I'm like, all right, Mazza. She's like, tune in, I really need your help. And I'm thinking, oh oh no don't ask me
Starting point is 00:00:45 like ring someone else she's like please come to my room quick and I'm thinking oh my god what's going on but I ain't good with criers by the way. Hello and welcome to the Tooney and Russo show with me, Vicko. I'm here with two of football's most famous friends, Ella Toon and Alessia Russo. The girls have promised that nothing is off limits, as always. So be prepared for anything and everything here on the Toonie and Russo show. Hello again. Hello. Here we are.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Back again. Back again. I'm really growing into my role as third wheel in this friendship i'm really enjoying it i feel like third wheel tonight i've not got the cardigan memo oh no one texts me saying bring your card tonight this is probably a good time to say that if you would like to see what less than i are wearing, spoiler alert, cardigans, this is all available on YouTube, so you can watch us. What's wrong with the cardigans?
Starting point is 00:01:51 No, no, I'm not saying anything's wrong. I just feel dead left out over here. Just didn't get the cardigan memo. And it's been happening a few times on this pod where I've been feeling a little bit left out. What, as the other time? What do you mean? I think it's because we both like country music
Starting point is 00:02:06 and she doesn't. You can listen to it if you want. I actually went on camp and said, was talking about it. I was like, yeah, well, Vicky's meant to be the third wheel and at the minute I feel like that it's me. It's not you.
Starting point is 00:02:18 She's dramatic, isn't she? Come on. You could have let me know you were bringing Cardi, so. Got loads at home, I could have brought. I don't think I even we have a separate whatsapp that we've been that won't surprise me I'm kidding we don't but actually we don't have a
Starting point is 00:02:36 whatsapp yet we need to make one don't we yeah and then we can give memos about what we're going to wear then you can let me know what you're going to wear blue jeans and a cardigan. These are such different blues. They are so different blues. All right.
Starting point is 00:02:49 We've actually talked on a previous episode about what you're like in the group WhatsApp. And that was kind of more on a sort of football team level. But as friendship groups, are you quite active? Do you keep the conversation going? Yeah, I'm active, yeah. But I feel like you can mute us. Oh, I shouldn't have told you. If we don't hear you, you're free.
Starting point is 00:03:12 You can't mute us. Because you've muted us. Oh, now you know. Yeah. I promise that if we ever WhatsApp group, the three of us, I will not mute you. Okay. God promise.
Starting point is 00:03:20 What's it going to be called? That's a good question. Cardies and Toonies. Yeah. A few episodes ago, actually, Okay, God promise. What's it going to be called? That's a good question. Cardies and Toonies. A few episodes ago, actually, we were almost sidetracked because we were starting to talk about what it's like being in camp on England duty. And we were like, you know what, there's just so much, there's so much to get into. So that's what this episode is going to be all about. You mentioned once, actually, the night before the Euros that the curtains kept opening
Starting point is 00:03:45 I had a little thought after we went home from that recording I was thinking that could have been sabotage that could have been the Germans
Starting point is 00:03:52 trying to put you off yeah could have been people like set fireworks off and stuff outside hotels that's what I'm saying does that happen much
Starting point is 00:03:59 like pure sabotage I don't think that's happened to us no one time we had a when I can't remember who we played to us, has it? No. One time we had a... I can't remember who we played. And if it was with United or England,
Starting point is 00:04:10 I can't remember, but we were at a hotel and the fire alarm went off dead early before a game. Oh, yeah. Really early, yeah. We were on the car park in our PJs. With foil around us. I think that was United.
Starting point is 00:04:20 I'd be suspicious of those moves. Yeah. And we all sat on the team bus, didn't we? Yeah. That was United, yeah. It was'clock in the morning I'm not advocating this obviously I could never FA don't get in touch but if you were, just hypothetically
Starting point is 00:04:35 if you were to sabotage another team what would the tactics be food poisoning she doesn't want to say it evil I wipe them all out it's cold it's savage
Starting point is 00:04:51 and I love it yeah that's true what is camp like do you enjoy that time because it feels like it must be so much fun yeah we do have a lot of fun
Starting point is 00:05:01 don't we there's a lot of time that you need to like not kill but find things to do you know we always play partners that takes up hours and hours of our time um but I absolutely love it um and that's I do look forward to going on camp to play partners yeah and see each other I've got a friend coming out my top I thought you're trying to hide your bruise yeah my bruise is okay what. Yeah, are you okay? What happened? It was in training.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Some girl just pinched me. No. I was, like, running with the ball, and then she must have grabbed me like that, but, like, must have clawed me. And, yeah, got some really ugly bruise. It's not sore anymore, but it's been there a week. Have you been injured a lot?
Starting point is 00:05:43 Have you broken anything? Touchwood, no. Not in football football but I have broke my collarbone when I was younger and I broke my wrist as well both like not playing football properly but I was in um primary school and someone kicked the ball really hard and it broke my wrist then I was on holiday I was kicking a ball up against the wall and then I slipped and fell backwards and landed on my collarbone and yeah that was really bad I was on Yn ystod y hwyl, roeddwn i'n cwylio'r golwg ar y dyn ar y dyn, ac wedyn mi wnaethon i ddynu a llwyddo i'r ôl ac wedi llwyddo ar fy ngwylio. Ie, roedd hynny'n ddrwg iawn. Roeddwn i'n ystod y hwyl am ddwy oed, ac roedd mam yn dweud, «Rhywbeth, pan fyddwch yn dod yn ôl, mae angen i chi ddod i'ch osbital».
Starting point is 00:06:12 Ac roeddwn i'n dweud, «Ni, mam, mae'n iawn!». Roeddwn i'n ei swynhau'n ymlaen fel hyn. Ac roedd hi'n fwyaf yn gweithio. Efallai y gwnaethon ti'n gweithio'n fwy. Ie, efallai y gwnaethon ti'n gweithio. Ond mae'n anodd gyda'r cwylio, oherwydd ni allwch chi ei roi mewn cast neu unrhyw beth. Ie. Ie, felly roedd hynny'n digwyddol. Lesley, wnaethon ti gweithio yn unrhyw beth? hard with the collarbone because you can't put it in a cast or anything yeah so that was a eventful
Starting point is 00:06:25 let's see broken anything i broke my leg in a when i was in college in america a through ball got played through and i was in a 50 50 with the goalkeeper and i went to like try and chip it and it was quite a wet night and she came out and she was like sliding and her knee just went straight into my shin and cracked it was horrible yeah I've had similar yeah what did you do um I was literally and I I promise I was about to score a goal I was playing at uni for my for the women's team and um this I can't swear this girl um slide tackled me studs up broke it on impact my ankle like my leg yeah um and they were like go on get up they gave her the free kick it because the ref didn't see oh my I know and um and they told me to that I should cycle home instead of trying to walk because it would probably be less pressure on it. And I was like, I think it's broken.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Everyone was like, no, no, no. But it wasn't. Yeah, in a cast for eight weeks. Yeah, it's not fun. It's not fun. When you're a kid, being in a cast is really exciting. Yeah, everyone signs it. Oh, great.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Absolutely brilliant. When you get older and you've got to like get the tube or go to your lectures or try and go to a club or whatever and you're on crampon crutches because it's icy. It's a real inconvenience. Oh gosh. Anyway, we digress. Hopefully no one's breaking anyone's legs at camp. But what is the split in time between, you know, playing, training, the professional side of things and then, like you say, like playing partners?
Starting point is 00:08:06 Yeah, I think we train like really hard when we do train we train often in the mornings and then might have gym after it and then after that you're pretty free we'll have a meeting every now and again but yeah we normally get the afternoons to kind of just chill out and people go to their rooms they go for a walk they go for treatment and we play partners yeah basically do you do you have time to have like a good bit of a laugh to and to let your hair down as well yeah definitely i think when you're at meal times that's probably when we most like chat together sit around tables have loads of banter and that. But then when you go away from that, everyone's so different. Some people just go to the room, play PlayStation or watch films,
Starting point is 00:08:53 whereas a lot of us will sit around, play partners, or some people sit and have coffees. So yeah, when you're at mealtimes together, that's when you're all together and interacting. How does the manager fit into the situation does it have that kind of teacher vibe like a school trip or is it that totally off the mark no I think we you obviously have such like a lot of respect for the manager and the whole staff in general like you kind of you're obviously work colleagues but
Starting point is 00:09:24 you understand that they're like your boss like but i think it's really nice like we all have a really nice relationship with the staff we'll sit and chat and but then at the same time we're playing partners the staff aren't going to sit with us and play partners they do always they're working yeah they do what what are you doing again like and you've got to try and explain but the rules are so long yeah you have tried to explain them here on the podcast, in fact. Yeah, it's hard work to explain. But they do always come over and see who's winning.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Everyone who walks past says, who's winning now? It's usually me and Les. Me and Timmy. And are there rules on camper? Are there rules that you've got to follow about how you spend your time, things you can and can't do? When there's, like's like rest time that is when like you should really like be off feet and be resting but when we're not at St George's
Starting point is 00:10:12 Park and we're elsewhere we're allowed to like go out and have a walk for a coffee and stuff like that whereas St George's Park there's not really anything to do around there you can't just go out and you've got to wear shin pads in training and no jewelry oh okay not even like a stud no why is that in in camp but it's the same on the pitch you know if you're if you're playing or yeah same on the pitch but at club it's not it's not the same as like at club like i would train in these and my necklace but that's it yeah yeah but yeah we we at england camp it's really like not like you don't train as you play at club, but like it's really like you wouldn't do that on a game day, so you're not doing that now.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Yeah. So it's getting into that mindset. Yeah. Talk to me about the first time you each got your call-ups to play for England, to play for your country I was in college in America and I was actually in a geology class oh classic yeah classic literally I've never even heard of that I think it's like the study of rocks or something oh sounds fun um and yeah I'd had a missed call from Phil Neville who was the coach at the time and I thought this
Starting point is 00:11:28 is weird like but my class is about to start like what do I do and I thought oh no it's the England boss like I've got to go out and take it so I left and rang him back and uh I was like hi whatever and he was like I'm just ringing to let you know that we're calling you up as a training player. Originally, I wasn't in the squad, but then someone got injured. So then I went as a squad player, but he was like, we're just going to call you up.
Starting point is 00:11:56 The camp was in America as well. And I was at college at the time in America. He was like, it's not going to be far from you. You'll come in and whatever. And I was just so buzzing I think you always are aren't you but um the first one always means a little bit more is it something you dreamt about it's something that you'd wanted for a while yeah for sure um and then I think also once you get the first taste it's like oh god like I really want to be back
Starting point is 00:12:21 here yeah so it's like I remember after that camp I was like right I need to be back here. So it's like, I remember after that camp, I was like, right, I need to do this, I need to do this, I need to get better at this. Like you kind of feel, get a feel for it and you're like, right, that's where I want to be, which is nice. And I was actually walking the dog and it was Phil Neville again, but a year after.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Les' cap number 215. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm 216, but one year apart, it's weird but yeah I was walking the dog and I had a phone call off Phil Neville so I answered it and he was like yeah I'm calling you up
Starting point is 00:12:54 to the next camp and I was like what do you even say I was like oh thank you so much like you don't even know what to say and he's like I think you really deserve it you've been playing well, I just want you to come into camp and enjoy it and yeah as soon as he put the phone down dwi'n ddiolch yn fawr iawn. Dydwch chi ddim hyd yn oed yn gwybod beth i'w ddweud. Dwi'n meddwl bod gennych chi'n gwerthiol, rydych chi wedi chwarae'n dda. Rwy'n hoffi dod i'r camp a mwynhau'r cwmni. Yn syth, pan roeddwn i'n rhoi'r ffôn i lawr,
Starting point is 00:13:09 fe wnaethon i ddweud i fy mam a'r dad yn gyntaf. Roeddent yn bwysig. Yn enwedig, roeddwn i'n mynd i'r camp gyntaf. Yn ffodus, roeddwn i'n gwybod llawer o'r gwirioneddol o'r gwirioneddol oherwydd roeddwn i'n ym Mhroedd yn y pryd. O, na, roeddwn i'n ym Mhroedd, sori. Ond roeddwn i'n gwybod pob gwirioneddol o'r gwirioneddol o'r gwirioneddol o'r pryd. Felly roedd hynny wedi'i wneud yn fwy haws, ond mae'n dal i chi fod yn hynod o'n nervus. sorry but I knew all the city girls um from when I was there um so that made it a bit easier but you're still so nervous like like don't talk like yeah and it takes you a while to get into the flow
Starting point is 00:13:33 of training as well because it's such high intensity but yeah like Les said like it was the best feeling ever and then you just want more after that because you've got to get that call every time it's not like you can just expect it because it's happened once oh no you can never expect it like no matter how many times you go away on camp you're still like nervous waiting for the team to be announced again um yeah and when people talk about camp feel like we always say like if selected yeah no one ever says like oh on the next camp like on the next camp if selected yeah you've got to make sure you use that like preface when you are on camp obviously there's that camaraderie because you're the england squad but is there still that competition because that doesn't necessarily mean you're the starting 11
Starting point is 00:14:17 no it's such high competition training yeah and i think that's what's so good about it like everyone wants to win everyone wants to it. Like everyone wants to win. Everyone wants to be the best. Everyone wants to play for England. And it's so healthy as well. It's such healthy competition in training. Makes you much better as a person and a player. And at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:14:38 we're all there to represent our country and to win. Yeah. And you're that way inclined. Like you're the type of people who want to win, who want to play well. Like obviously because you all want to be in that team and there's competitive spirit because of that. But that's an interesting dynamic.
Starting point is 00:14:53 And what's everyone like at helping each other settle in? Was there anyone who kind of brought you into the fold? Any tough nuts to crack? I feel like when I went in, I was like really close with Alex Greenwood she was the captain at United and I'd known her already so it was easy for me to go in and I knew the girls from City as well Abby McManus was there at the time and she definitely made me feel the most welcome like she's one of my best friends now through football and she always put her arm around
Starting point is 00:15:20 me like from the day that I met her so to have people like that on camp when you first go in o'r dydd y gwnaethom gyfarfod, felly i gael pobl fel hyn ar y camp pan fyddwch chi'n mynd i mewn yn blant ifanc, mae'n gwneud yn teimlo'n llawer haws ond mae'n debyg bod chi'n mor anodd hefyd. Ie, rydych chi. Roedd Abi yn dda iawn ar fy nghymrdd cyntaf hefyd. Mae hi'n gwneud ychydig o'r ysgolion yn ymlaen i'w ddynu. Ie, ac rwy'n meddwl, oherwydd bod gennym y profiad hwnnw o'r ffordd mae'n deimlo'n dda i ddod i mewn a bod yn anodd ac mae'n cymryd And I think because we've had that experience of what it feels like to come in and be nervous and it takes a few camps to really settle into it. I feel like the girls now, probably our age, who all felt like that, are really good for the ones that are coming through and try and make it as easy as possible for them to just feel like they can just be themselves straight away.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Unless you said you were nervous, you both did. What bits are you nervous about ahead of your first camp? Football. Yeah, training. Training. Like, they're the best in England, and you're so young, and you probably don't believe in yourself as much as you should, and you think, why have I even been selected?
Starting point is 00:16:19 But, yeah, it does take a while to get used to it. Like, even a rondo, a little passing box, like, I just couldn't even keep the ball. Like yn ymddygiad â'r rondo, er mwyn cael y bobl yn ymddygiad â'r rondo. Dwi ddim yn gallu cadw'r bwrdd, dwi'n cymryd amser yn y cyfnod hwn o rondo. Ond ie, mae'n sicr yn llwyr i chi ddod yn ymddygiad â'r rondo. A pha gyngor oedd unrhyw un ohonynt neu unrhyw un o'ch cymharwyr yn rhoi atoch chi? Roedd Keira Walsh yn dda iawn at that like I really struggled with thinking what other people thought whereas she was like you're good enough to be here you've been selected to be here so just go out and do do what you've been doing all season and yeah definitely made it that bit easier
Starting point is 00:16:54 take me back to the world cup in Australia because you're on the other side of the world and potentially away from home for you, it could be well over a month. How do you prepare for that? Like, what are you packing? It was stressful, wasn't it? You might, Les had the biggest suitcase I've ever seen. It was like she was moving over there for life.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Yeah, I'm an overpacker. Me too, me too. I'm not. Shockers are both overpackers. I'm just saying I feel your pain. No, I'm a proper overpacker. So, yeah, it was stressful knowing what to pack. And we were moving around a lot as well.
Starting point is 00:17:38 I hate that. I hate when you can't just get everything out of your suitcase because you're moving next week you've got to leave it all in it's like you're backpacking around australia and also you need some casual clothes but then you get given casual clothes when you go there and then your suitcase is filled with clothes that you don't ever wear yeah when you're there yeah that is very true how many trainers do you bring? You need one pair of gym trainers, a pair for game day,
Starting point is 00:18:08 your favourite trainers, and then slides, Birkenstocks. Yeah, you're like a Birkenstock. Really, all you need is pyjamas and your shoes, and that's it. Here we are, Les has got a case that'll fit ten people in it. You could have definitely fit in my case. Oh, 100%, yeah. What about home comforts, anything that you take?
Starting point is 00:18:25 It's like being on the road. Like, I know from friends who are touring musicians, for example, there's certain things that you want to have. When we go to tournaments, it's really nice. I remember at the Euros, England got in touch with our families and our families sent us, like, care packages. In mine, it had, like, a big sign that said good luck ella loads of pictures of my family and friends um when i went to the world court my boyfriend sorted out a big book
Starting point is 00:18:52 and he'd been around to all my family and all my friends and they'd all stuck a picture in of me and them and then they'd wrote like a really nice message and it was so thoughtful and i'd read it like all the time the night before the game i'd read it and I'd just be crying yeah I was gonna say get your money yeah because you'd be like I'm so proud of you you're gonna do amazing and yeah I've kept that which is really nice but those little things when you go away for so long just to look back on and see pictures of your family and friends it's really nice is that an emotion that you want to tap into the night before you play like missing home because i don't know it can be something that you harness and it actually really helps you yeah i quite like it i i chose to read that book the night before every game
Starting point is 00:19:34 because it made me step out onto the pitch and want to do it for them and remind me of how far i've come and and how much they've played a part in in that journey so yeah I I like stuff like that yeah and Les do you have any home comforts in your massive case you know what I didn't actually have that many home comforts I love English tea yeah but they they brought that over didn't they do you like what is what you're saying well you're putting me on the spot here because you know that the answer is yes and then you're gonna get upset that we like the same thing. Do you not like to? I don't like to, you know.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Well, that's on you and not me. Ella, I'm just going to say. Ever feel like car shopping is designed to make you second guess yourself? Is this a good price? Am I making the right choice? With CarGurus, you don't have to wonder. They have hundreds of thousands of cars from top-rated dealers
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Starting point is 00:20:44 Now we have mentioned her a lot on this pod already and I don't think that's a surprise but Manchester United and England goalkeeper Mary Earps recently said that if something went missing in camp it would, I quote, it would 100% be Ella and Alessia. Tooney would thieve, she said.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Alessia would distract. She said that. I don't know if you could team like that. Yeah, we would but why is she calling me a thief to be fair we did rob
Starting point is 00:21:09 a Milky Bars there you go that's why she loves Milky Bars and yeah we did take a few of them when I'm just thinking of Mary saying
Starting point is 00:21:17 that we'd be the thief and I'd be the distraction it just makes me think of when you had to get up with a spasm. Oh, it was so funny. So basically, it was Toonie's birthday on camp.
Starting point is 00:21:33 So me and Katie Zellum were like, well, we need to get Toonie out of a room so we can go into a room, put up banners, put up balloons. That's nice, isn't it? Yeah. And then we hid under the bed with these party hats on and shouted happy happy birthday when she came in so we did that and we were like Mary we need you to distract Toonie to get her out of her room because we're attached at the hip-on camp so wherever Toonie is I am so we text Mary and she was like we need you to help distract Toonie and get her out of her room so Mary texts you
Starting point is 00:22:05 didn't she? No she rang me and I thought that's weird like Mary never rings never really rings, never mind ringing me, so I'm like alright Mazza she's like Toonie I really need your help and I'm thinking oh no don't ask me, like ring someone else, she's like please
Starting point is 00:22:21 come to my room quick and I'm thinking oh my god what's going on, I ain't good with criers by the way quick. And I'm thinking, oh my God, what's going on? I ain't good with criers, by the way. So anyway, I'm panicking, shut my room, runs out, runs down the corridor. I'm like, I'm coming, Mary, I'm coming. It's gonna be all right. Don't know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:22:35 And in the meantime, we'd gone and got a key for Toonie's room. So we let ourselves into Toonie's room, started decorating, thinking this is all good. And Toonie's obviously panicking. So I get to the room and and it's on the latch, and I'm like, so I put the phone down, I'm like, Mary?
Starting point is 00:22:49 She's like, I'm in here, I'm in here! And I'm like, right. So I go in the bathroom. And she's like, in the bath, and she's like, I've got a back spasm, I can't get out of the bath! And I was like, oh, you want me to get you out? So I'm like, all right, like, we don't really know what to do.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Anyway, she's half hanging out of the bath. And she's like, oh. And, like, falls back in. And I'm like, Mary, I'm, like, getting you out here. She's like, oh, don't worry, I'll stay here. Bearing in mind, I've been in the room for about 20 minutes. Mary's taking her performance out of, like, serious. Mary thought she was winning an
Starting point is 00:23:25 award like she thought she was like an act an actress like she was proper taking it seriously so anyway it gets her half out and I'm thinking you could have got out there like what you're doing but also how did you put the door on that yeah I don't know it was all a bit mad anyway so I'm like oh she's like don't worry it's fine i'll get out at some point i'm like all right in a bit so i'll leave and then as i get back to my room these two idiots jump out and like surprise and i'm just a bit thingy about the whole mary situation but it's traumatic for you it was traumatic yeah i was thinking wow this girl's like seriously got a back spasm i was like i don't know what's gonna happen here and if she did have a back spasm would she call you no doubt it not me yeah she'd call
Starting point is 00:24:10 less yeah so yeah mary's a distractor yeah that is why mary thinks but she's saying that you're the fever and that you'd be the distractor yeah Why would she say that? I think because maybe I'm too scared to actually be the thief. That's true. Yeah, but that's not in my nature to be the thief. Yeah, for chocolate and stuff. I think you're better at
Starting point is 00:24:37 talking to people. You know what I mean? I think, yeah, because people might not suspect you. Yeah, true. They would suspect you. A more classic thief. A little thieving too. I mean, apart from a very necessary distraction to get you out of the room for your birthday,
Starting point is 00:24:56 do any other sort of pranks go on in camp? Is that a thing that you do? It's not really, is it? We don't really prank a lot. We make each other jump. Right jump right oh that's so easy to make to make a jump yeah like you don't really jump yeah you should try now every episode is an opportunity for you listening now or watching to be a part of our conversation where you get to ask Ella and Alessia a question,
Starting point is 00:25:25 anything you want. And this week's question is from Issa, who asks, who makes you laugh the most when you're away with England, when you're on camp? Toonie. That's easy.
Starting point is 00:25:37 I think I really boost your ego. Oh, Les makes me think I'm hilarious. You are hilarious. Yeah, but I'm so funny when I'm with Les. You know what makes me laugh about you? That you're laughing at me. Yeah. I laugh at Les's laugh.
Starting point is 00:25:51 And then she starts laughing with it. Les's laugh is funny. Yeah. I find Keira quite funny. She does make me laugh. Yeah. Trying to think about it. I find Millie funny, but that's just because she's, like, an idiot.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Yeah, but I spend a lot of time with Mill, so sometimes I get, like, a bit irate with her, don't I? Yeah, but that's just because you're, like, sisters. Yeah, I think everyone's quite funny. Mary's a funny person. Yeah, Mary. Like, she's not, like, funny like Toonie, but she's, like, you laugh at Mary sometimes for what she does.
Starting point is 00:26:22 She will admit to that. She's just, like like got a really great character that is just like entertaining. I've told her that we've been speaking about her on the podcast and she's buzzing. Yeah, I bet she is. She was like, oh right, what were you saying? Oh, it's all entertainment.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Who's on the flip side the most serious or a bit difficult to get a smile out of? Because they're focused. I think who's most like focused and determined would be bronzy yeah like lucy bronze is like but she has a good sense of humor so competitive yeah but she is proper funny it makes me really happy to hear that everyone has got a good sense of humor yeah i think you have to yeah yeah you do yeah why do you say that why in that dressing room in particular I just think in football dressing rooms you have to have like you've got to be able to take a bit of banter yeah or else you'd be struggling I think it's part of being in a team
Starting point is 00:27:12 as well isn't it yeah and you spend so much time together so you you've got to get used to like having bits of banter here and there and people calling you for something but I like it and you'll just bounce off of each other as well yeah well good question Issa thank you so much if you do have a question or something you want to discuss you want us to discuss make sure you use the Toonie Russo hashtag or drop your question in the comments on YouTube I would actually like to know when we're talking about the dynamics and the characters in the team is there anyone that you really look forward to catching up with when you're aware that camps around the
Starting point is 00:27:50 corner it's coming I'm gonna get to see everyone who are you so excited to see I know you'll say each other which is absolutely fine but who else I like to see Esme oh nice yeah me and Esme really really get dda. Ie. Rydyn ni, Esme, yn cymryd cyfnod iawn gyda phobl gwahanol iawn. Ond rwy'n hoffi gwrando arno. Mae hi'n siarad mor... Ie. Felly, sut i ddangos hynny? Mae hi'n siarad mor... Mae hi'n mor ddiddorol.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Ie, mae hi'n ddiddorol. Fe allaf i ddysgu i'w siarad ymlaen. Ie, mae hi'n ddiddorol. Ond rydyn ni wedi gwneud llawer o amser gyda'i gilydd pan roeddem yn y ddynion. Felly mae'n dda dod yn ôl i'r camp Cymru a chael ychydig o gysylltiadau. Ond rwi'n meddwl mai dyna'r un peth gyda llawer o bobl sydd ddim yn cael eu gweld llawer. Rwy'n mwynhau cwmniadau gyda Niamh a Hempo. Ie, dyna un da. Ie. Dwi wedi gwybod Niamh am flynyddoedd. Ac pan oedden ni'n ymdrin, roedden ni'n
Starting point is 00:28:38 cymaint iawn. Ie, hi a Hempo yw fel mi a Toonie. Rwy'n med a double act. Yeah. So it's nice to have a little catch up with them too. And there will be those players that maybe you did used to spend time with, but you don't get a chance so much now until you're all together as the England squad. Yeah. I mean, I always love seeing Toonie and Mary and all of that lot as well. But yeah, you sit with different people at dinner all the time. So you're always having different conversations which is nice so it's not like little groups forming it's the same people who hang out together who eat together well all the time we always sit next to each other at dinner
Starting point is 00:29:15 or at meal times but then we'll just sit with like whoever's on the table so like we're always there and then whoever's sat there, we'll just join them. Yeah. Who do you go to for advice or a hug or support? Is there an agony ant character amongst the squad? I would always go to Les, but I also go to Mary a lot. Yeah, Mary would be mine. Yeah, Mary, because she's so experienced and she's been through so much in her career that she's really, like, relatable and you can always go to her and she'll be truthful with you
Starting point is 00:29:51 and she'll tell you straight, like, what she thinks. And although we're best friends, we're not really huggers. No. If I wanted a hug, I'd go to Grace Clinton. Oh, yeah, everyone would go to Grace. Yeah. But she's sometimes too much, like, dangling off my neck. And I'm like, Grace. Yeah, she's a proper hugger yeah she does love a hug what's the the reason
Starting point is 00:30:11 for the hugs is it just no reason she's just like a little sloth that's what i call her like she's like a little but she likes to hug like she would like to hug serena yeah she loves hugging like anything and anyone even like there's a lot of times where i'm like she's hugging me and i'm not hugging her back and it's just a bit weird really but she loves it like she just doesn't let go and she said to me on the camp just gone she went have you ever uh hugged a tree and i went no grace i haven't have you she went yeah and i'm just gonna do one like later like we were going on a walk she was like i'm gonna hug one later as yeah and i'm just gonna do one like later like we were going on a walk she was like i'm gonna hug one later as well and i was like you're such a weirdo
Starting point is 00:30:49 what's what's why do you do that why would she do that i don't know well as someone who has hugged a few trees um it is good it does help you feel closer to the nature and the world around you oh she's quite in that yeah she's into that she that. She got me into, not like, I'm not big into it, but she got me my own crystal. Oh, nice. That I carry around with me. I forgot what it means now. But it is on me all the time.
Starting point is 00:31:14 If you do get an opportunity to hug a tree, I do recommend. Okay. Maybe like a Canadian redwood. One way you can get your arms fully around it and touch your other hands. That would be nice. With a redwood, you won't be able to.
Starting point is 00:31:25 That's a bit big. It's fat, but it's soft. If you punch it, it doesn't hurt you. I don't know what one of them looks like. No, neither do I. Not that you would want to punch a tree. That'd be weird. That'd be really weird.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Yeah. But I'm just saying, I get where she's coming from. A Canadian redwood. Yeah. But yeah, me and Les probably never hug. No. But you hug each other. Oh, no. We rarely hug. Oh, you But you hug each other? Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:31:45 We rarely hug. Oh, you don't hug each other? No. But I was talking to Leah on camp, I think, and she was like, that's the same with her and Kira. Yeah, I can't imagine them ever hugging. Yeah. They're not like hugging friends.
Starting point is 00:31:57 I would probably hug like Millie and Grace more than less. Like, I don't know what it is. No, no. I just don't really hug them. Your friendship's transcended hugging. Yeah. Yeah. Weird. i hug you when i'm not seeing you for ages yeah but if i ever needed anything like you'd be the first person i come to yeah i mean if you were crying i would put my hand on you give me a little pat on your shoulder yeah you would but is hugging the manager a no-go because you said about serena there it's not a no-go? Because you said about Serena there. It's not a no-go.
Starting point is 00:32:25 When you first come to camp, you give Serena a hug. When you say hello, yeah. But Grace probably hugs for a lot longer than other people. Yeah, you know that person that just doesn't let go. Yeah, that's Grace. That's Grace, right. Who in the team has all the gossip? Bethmead.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Yeah. Oh. Yeah. I think Bethmead likes the gossip. I don't know what's going on half the time Beth Mead likes a bit of a gossip yeah
Starting point is 00:32:49 and what do you think you two would be known for always being together yeah I was just about to say that but never hugging oh you're never apart you two
Starting point is 00:32:59 yeah what are you two getting up to you look like you're getting up to something yeah oh when you get one you get the other
Starting point is 00:33:03 yeah oh there she is she's not far behind you we get all of that every day yeah don't bother me though no it doesn't bother me either thieving and distracting yeah there's the thieves what about um the food at camp it's good is it it's good you've got to be nourished you've got to be strong yeah the chefs are really good aren aren't they? The live stations, they do like a live station in the morning. And then on a day before a game. Sorry, a live station?
Starting point is 00:33:31 Yeah, so like he'll be cooking some stuff. Oh, okay. So he'll be cooking omelettes, he does pancakes, poached eggs, scrambled eggs. Oh, his pancakes are good. Yeah, you like a pancake, don't you? The night before a game, we both get pasta
Starting point is 00:33:41 and we like have this little concoction. We double up, so he makes a big batch and then splits it in half for both of us. Yeah, and then we both get pasta and we like, have this little concoction. We double up, so he makes a big batch and then splits it in half for both of us. and then we both have it. So we get like, a mix of tomato sauce
Starting point is 00:33:51 and creamy sauce, chorizo, spinach, Fusilli? Yeah. Fusilli. Yeah. Chorizo,
Starting point is 00:33:58 spinach, broccoli, onions, and then, yeah, and then he takes toonies out and then he puts chilli and sun-dried
Starting point is 00:34:06 tomatoes in mine give it the extra kick she doesn't like that would you have the second don't would you have the second yes i would i'm nigerian i like a bit of spice all right oh you've got you've got to be eating well like Yeah, it is nice. We do eat well. And on Sundays we have a roast. Yeah, he makes a roast. The steaks are always lovely, aren't they? Do you get to choose what you eat in advance? Can you say, can you put in some suggestions of what you feel like eating?
Starting point is 00:34:36 I think we always have, like, we always give feedback on what we like and what we want more of. Like, recently we've said, like, really like jacket potatoes for dinner so now i have a jacket potato every day yeah it's feedback you know dinner's lunch would you say breakfast dinner uh i i would say sometimes i say tea for what southerners say is dinner is it so what yeah which so i say breakfast dinner tea
Starting point is 00:35:03 yeah and i would say breakfast lunch dinner okay i would usually would you say breakfast lunch dinner but i'm enjoying it so i should say breakfast dinner tea and you should and no and i should i should and i sometimes do and i actually every monday i do every we have a feature on our show called what you have for your tea and we're talking about dinner. And I will say tea for dinner then. Okay. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:29 All right. Yeah. So both of you, I am just like both of you. Yeah. Trying to be so diplomatic. We do always have a debate about this. Yeah, we do. All the Northerners say dinner tea and all the Southerners say lunch, dinner.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Lunch and dinner. Like I would never say dinner for lunch. I would say dinner for lunch. But what do you call them people in school, the ladies? Dinner lady. She's right. That's my case. Do you ever say, I'll do it on my lunch break,
Starting point is 00:35:58 like people say at work, you know? No, I don't say break. That's what I'm saying. Right, it's dinner time now. And the dinner ladies are here. You sound like Mr. Wolf. Dinner time. That's a big argument, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:36:11 We really agree to disagree on that. Okay, anyone listening, is it tea or is it dinner? You know what game we like to play sometimes? We'll say, right, you go into the shop, you've got to buy one drink. Then we go around the table and we're like, ooh, you'd buy an iron brew, no way.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Yeah. For example, I would like an iron brew, but like, or we'd go, right, now you've got to buy one chocolate bar, and we'll go around the table.
Starting point is 00:36:35 And one time I said chocolate raisins. Oh, I nearly vomited on the table. At the time, I was really into, what? No, at the time,
Starting point is 00:36:41 I can't remember, I must have had them a couple times, and I was like, oh, I really like chocolate raisins at the moment. Everyone was gobsmacked. But your chocolate bar of choice would be chocolate raisins. No, I just said at that time I really liked chocolate raisins. Oh, you're not liking them anymore? I haven't had them for about a year.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Yeah, God. Yeah. We really get to know a person, don't you? Yeah. It's those insights. And we like to ask each other what a meal deal they would choose. Yeah, meal deals are a big, big one. What would be your meal deal choice?
Starting point is 00:37:08 Well, so there was a time when there was one of them used to do a sandwich that was like brown seeded bread with prawns and smoked salmon and rocket inside. Oh, nice. Now, I felt like I was getting a lot of bang for my buck because I was getting that as part of the meal deal as well as I would go for crisps I'd go for a crinkly crisp what kind of crisp you like a crinkly crisp yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:37:37 something beefy I'd probably I'd go for an orange juice a fresh orange juice over a fish bits or no bits bits oh no what
Starting point is 00:37:51 I hate bits just like something I like Julia I know I like it smooth too alright oh I hate bits don't I yeah
Starting point is 00:38:00 she's like do you want some orange juice I'm like can you let me know if I like it or not because if it's got the tiniest of bits in I just can't drink it you need to orange juice I'm like can you let me know if I like it or not because if it's got the tiniest of bits in I just can't drink it
Starting point is 00:38:07 you need to carry a sieve around with you oh this guy right I was moaning to Les dead loud I was like I hate bits in orange juice you know and I shout when I'm talking and then this guy came over to me and said Ella I've just sieved all the bits out for you
Starting point is 00:38:23 how cute is that it was so cute. He said, I'm sorry for overhearing your conversation, but I've sieved all the bits out of the orange juice for you. It was really sweet. I was like, that is the nicest thing anyone's ever done for me. Yeah, that was really cute. I know now the way to your heart.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Yeah, sieve the bits out of the orange juice. I'm going to take the bits out of your orange. Put that on a T-shirt. I'm going to take the bits out of your orange juice. I on a t-shirt. I'm going to take the bits out of your orange. I have seen a little sieve. I've seen it in the shop. It's a long story as to why I was looking at it, but I have seen a little sieve.
Starting point is 00:38:52 I'm going to get it. I thought about getting it and I thought, I've got no reason for that. I found the reason. You found the reason. And the reason is you. I would sieve the bits out of your orange, Jeeves. Oh, thank you.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Oh, thank you so much, both of you, for taking me and the listeners inside the England camp. I feel like we got those insights. We've enjoyed learning what goes on in there. And I hope that Ella is enjoying her role as the third wheel in our relationship. I'm loving it. I would sieve the bits out of your orange juice.
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