The Tooney & Russo Show - Gearing Up for the Euros with Tooney & Russo

Episode Date: June 30, 2025

In the series finale, Vick Hope dives into tournament prep with Lionesses Alessia Russo and Ella Toone as they gear up for England duty. From packing essentials and team bonding rituals, to the party-...planning legends of the England camp, the duo spills all the behind-the-scenes secrets.As newly appointed England Social Secretaries, Alessia and Grace Clinton are shaking up team spirit with surprise activities. Meanwhile, Tooney gets candid about hotel pet peeves, home comforts, and the quirky items players sneak into their bags to fight boredom and stay grounded.And who’s stepping up to carry on Jill Scott’s legacy as the squad’s ultimate morale booster?

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the UK. deal ratings and price history. So you know a great deal when you see one. That's cargurus.ca. As it is the last episode, I really would like you to do one skit. Oh my god, who told you to do that? No one told me to do that. No, no one told me to do it. Ding ding, train arrived at Stockport. Can't wait to get home. Walk over to the car park where I know that I left my car. Get to the car. Where is it? It's not there.
Starting point is 00:00:57 I go over to the people in the window. Have you seen my car? Hello miss, I don't know. We did just see a car being towed out of the venue. What am I going to do? How am I going to get home? Where's my car? I've just bought that car. It's new. Hello and welcome to the Toonie and Russo show with me, Vic Hope. I am here with two of football's most famous friends, Ella Toon and Alessia Russo!
Starting point is 00:01:27 Woo! As always, I want to get to know you. What makes you tick? And if you're a regular listener or viewer, you'll know that nothing is off the table. But do you believe, guys, that it is the final episode of the series? No way. It's happened. How do you feel about it coming to an end?
Starting point is 00:01:47 It's sad that it's coming to an end. It's only just begun. I know, literally. I know, yeah, we always say that when we've not done it for a while, we miss doing it because we obviously get to hang out as a little trio. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:59 And it's just good. Well, let's make the- It's gonna be fun, isn't it? Yeah, let's make the last one a good one. Yeah. Looking back of the series the- It's gonna be fun, isn't it? Yeah, let's make the last one a good one. Yeah. Looking back of the series, obviously we had a first series, but is there anything new that you have learned
Starting point is 00:02:10 about each other or anything that you feel stands out that was different to the first time round? I do feel like this new season is more like, is less football, which is quite nice sometimes. But as it is the last episode, I really would like you to do one skit. Oh my God, have you told you to do that? No, no one told me to do it.
Starting point is 00:02:30 We've been talking all day about skits that you do. You've got some skits in you. Come on, just one. Depends what it is. I don't know what the options are. Absolutely anything. You know what's good? That Les is really good at thinking of a scenario in her head.
Starting point is 00:02:48 That's a talent. Okay, the scenario is you get off the train when you go back to Manchester and your car has been towed. Do you know what though? Don't speak that into existence. I think that might be what's happening or gonna happen. Well, we hope not, but if you did need to practice for it. And then you have to go and try and figure out where your car is,
Starting point is 00:03:10 and then you find it, and it's been broken into as well. I'm dreading this train journey. Oh no, when I get there. Just the towed part. Okay, so I... So you're just walking off the train, getting off the train at Stockport. Ding ding, train arrived at Stockport. Buzzing, just smashed off today and now I'm home. Can't wait to get home.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Off I go, off the train, skipping my step, walk over to the car park where I know that I left my car, get to the car, where is it? It's not there. Has someone stole it? What's been happening? I go over to the people in the window, have you seen my car? EA, I'm not going to say that. It was parked over there, I swear it was parked over there. Why do I always repeat myself? Hello miss, I don't know, we did just see a car being towed out of the venue. What am I going to do? How am I going to get home? Where's my car? I've just bought that car. It's new. Don't know what to do now. Oh no. That's it. I just don't know. Oh no. It's got a sad ending.
Starting point is 00:04:34 I do like to do that where I end it on a cliffhanger. Oh my God. I was hoping for a resolution, but no. There's never a resolution. No. Last time I did a skit, I've been eaten by sharks anyway, so. I can't do anymore. Yeah. I enjoyed it Yeah it was good it was good. I've not done it for a while. No it was really good. You took me there. Yeah I was a few different characters I was also narrating if you didn't know I was getting off the train. You were doing all the parts. Ding dong train arrived at
Starting point is 00:05:01 Stockport. That was really good. Ella walks off the train. Ella walks off the train. A spring in her step. I feel like this series, well, obviously, because I didn't know you at all to begin with, other than what I'd seen from afar, I feel like I've learned more deeply about you. Like there's been some quite emotional moments as well as like the big laughs that I've come to expect
Starting point is 00:05:23 from spending time with you both. And I want to thank you for being really honest and open and vulnerable at times, because, you know, as we keep discussing, it's okay to be a bit of everything. Yeah, yeah. It's okay to have every side of yourself and to be able to show that and lean into that. But this is a bit of a wrap party. So we're probably not going to cry this time. Even though there's been a few tears over the last... I've got a lot of tears left. But it did get me thinking,
Starting point is 00:05:51 if someone in the England squad was in charge of organising a party for the squad, whatever that party might be, let's say, for example, winning the Euros, who'd be the best? Who'd be throwing that party? Leah? That's part of the job, right? euros. Who'd be the best? Who'd be throwing that party? Leah? Yeah. That's part of the job, right? Yeah, I think she's got the contacts too. Yeah, and she likes good music. Yeah, she does. She's got good music taste.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Yeah. She knows what a proper good party would be. So yeah, I think we'd be in safe hands there with Leah. Yeah, I'd trust her. What would a proper good party be for all of you together? DJ. Yeah. Big dance Leon. Yeah I'd trust her. What would a proper good party be for all of you together? DJ, yeah, big dance floor, yeah, and family and friends. Yeah that's all you need. Yeah it's the main thing isn't it? Yeah. And some nibbles, some cooking cream clusters. Who'd be the worst person to to organise it? Probably Tony. Me. Millie Turner.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Millie Turner would be bad. Just wouldn't happen. Yeah. There's got to be some others who wouldn't be good. Neve. Grace. Neve. People like that, yeah, who probably aren't really that bothered about planning.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Yeah. Yeah, I'd therefore be up there. I'd make someone else do it for me. Delegation is an important skill in itself. I'm really good at delegating. Yeah, I'm very good at that, so plan it. You do it. Yeah. Do you like a surprise party? Do you like to know every detail, what's coming? I like to know what's going on. I like a surprise. It kind of absolves you of any responsibility, like, whatever. Yeah, I didn to know what's going on. I like a surprise. It kind of absolves you of any
Starting point is 00:07:25 responsibility like, yeah I didn't know what was going on. Yeah I like to be in the know. Do you know what, do you know what panics me about that though like, say I booked somewhere for food and it was really bad, I would feel that that was on me and I can't live with that. What are you gonna do? That's why I don't book. Because I'm like... Yeah but I have that responsibility every camp. Yeah I know you do. But I would never blame you if it was bad.
Starting point is 00:07:53 I would never blame me if it was bad. I know but maybe that's in my own head that I think I've let everyone down. I just I'd rather not put the responsibility on me. Yeah to be fair I would rather just book it myself if I knew that there was a chance that the place you were gonna burn this pad. That's why you do it then, isn't it? Cause you know I book something bad.
Starting point is 00:08:14 That's what my family say too. That's why you do all the planning cause I think I know the crowd quite well. Like honestly, you can tell me, has there ever been been a restaurant or something that you've not liked? No, but I don't like them Italians with no chips. It's a huge summer ahead. Obviously, there's lots going on, lots of different reasons,
Starting point is 00:08:40 including the Euros. We've actually got this one question that's been sent in from Jasmine, which I think is quite an interesting one. So she says, Jill Scott is my favorite player and she always seemed to keep the energy and the mood in camp high during the Euros in 2022. Who do you think will play that role this summer? Oh, big shoes to Phil. No one will ever be like Jill.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Yeah, she's special, for sure. She was amazing. She was one of the best people to ever have in a team. She is so funny too. Yeah, funny. What would she do? She could just get everyone together. Yeah, she'd just make people laugh.
Starting point is 00:09:17 She would always speak to everyone. She would always want people to be sociable and to just spend time together. Yeah, she was a proper good laugh. Yeah, big shoes to fill those. But do you feel like you've got to fill them? I don't think I have to fill them. I feel like I can make people laugh
Starting point is 00:09:36 so maybe I could try and step into the role. But yeah, no one could ever do it like Jill did. I'll give it a go. Tony would give it a good go. You do it like you do. Yeah, I'll put my own twist on it. When you can see that your teammates are flagging or anyone's feeling down,
Starting point is 00:09:54 what do you do instinctively, like immediately? It's hard, isn't it, when you're in a tournament and stuff, because sometimes you've just gotta let people feel how they wanna feel or be how they wanna be You don't want to be too much for people. I think it's quite difficult when you go away and you're having a bit of an off day or a bad day and yeah it's nice to be around people who make you smile and make you happy and whatever but sometimes you've just got to let people have that day because you're going to have them. We're all human. You can't just be 100 miles an hour every day. because you're gonna have them. We're all human.
Starting point is 00:10:25 You can't just be 100 miles an hour every day. Sometimes you're gonna have a little day that's harder than another day. So yeah, obviously being around people and making people laugh, but also letting them have a moment as well. I guess there's so much respect as well between you all that it's not always laughter
Starting point is 00:10:44 that can make someone feel better. Sometimes it's people who speak. It's just an arm around them, isn't it, sometimes? But yeah, you learn to respect how people deal with things. I think the more you understand people, the better, because you're away for a long time. You understand what makes them tick or how they're dealing with certain things.
Starting point is 00:11:04 So yeah, I think the good thing about having people around you who know you really well is that they know how to deal with things in them situations. So you've got to build their relationships. But yeah, I think for me, it's always about being around people and having fun and making, you know, making people laugh. That's when I feel good. Do you feel like you all have different roles, but quite specific roles that you've slotted into within the squad?
Starting point is 00:11:28 Me and one of the other girls, Grace Clinton, are the social sex. Although it's quite hard to plan things for camp when, two things, when you're not on camp and also when you're on camp, but being respectful that people actually quite need their own time especially after a long season so we're in the process of planning a few things for the summer. Oh can't be excited about. So you've got you've got that insight you've got that knowledge you're the one planning. Yeah I am the planner. Yeah well we did a what did we do last camp like graffiti stuff. Yeah I was not the planner for that. Oh right right, you're not taking credit for that.
Starting point is 00:12:06 That was good. Yeah, that was okay. And so was the poet. That was okay. You got a poet? Yeah. You liked that one, didn't you? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:14 When she sat down to have food, the mic was staring at me and I thought, love to just get up there now and do something. But I- Do you ruin slam poetry? It just didn't click for me, what I wanted to do. Anyway, got home from camp and I thought, I should have done a show.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Yeah, you should have. I should have just got off and done a show, shouldn't I? Everyone would have loved it. Well, you know what to do. I'll remember for next time. Yeah, make sure there's a mic for whatever it is that you're planning. What did you do then, SocialSec?
Starting point is 00:12:38 What have you done? Well, we were gonna plan the Easter egg camp, but that ship sailed when we had the day off because we wanted everyone to have the day off. We've got some things in the pipeline. Okay, can't wait. When it comes to team bonding exercises, what should you not do? Not force it upon everyone.
Starting point is 00:12:58 No forced fun. We've learned that. Yeah, that's not- Make it optional. Optional or something that the whole group will actually benefit from. Yeah. We're not gonna force everyone to come and, I don't know, like do a talent show or something.
Starting point is 00:13:12 We started to play werewolf. Yeah, werewolf was a good one. That was your doing. Yeah. That was good. Have you ever played werewolf? No, what's werewolf? It's kind of like traitors.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Oh no, oh it is, oh yeah. I've heard of people playing this. Yeah. Yeah, that's good. Really good. It's not good when you get voted out for time. Well no, and then you're out and then what can you do? They all come for me, first time all time. I think they do it because you say, oh everyone always comes to me and they're like, oh let's
Starting point is 00:13:35 just get to it. Yeah, let's just do it, I know it's you. Maybe I should stop saying that now. Have there ever been any social sec decisions made that have gone down really badly or any activities that just didn't work? We've only just started it to be fair. Yeah. It's like only a recent thing.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Okay. But previous camps, I remember we went to the Olympics and we did a talent show and it was so funny. It was proper good. And on England camps we had Wendy, you used to do the quizzes. But they weren't normal quizzes where you sat around a table. Like you were up dancing, doing dance-offs. It was just mint. It was proper good.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Yeah, she was really good at them. Yeah. But the talent show we did at the Olympics was so funny. There was Leo, Lucy, Ellie Roebuck, me and Sam, where you went as like a five. And Leo was on the piano. Lucy and Roebuck were singing, but both of them atone death, like really bad, like they just cannot sing.
Starting point is 00:14:36 And then me and Samway did a dance, but the dance was what do you call that dance where it's like interpretive? Yeah, a bit all like it it was Dead Slow, like in Dead Light. Like contemporary dance. Yeah, contemporary, that's it. Oh my God, it was brilliant. I was so in character when I was performing that. It was pretty good.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Who made you social? Did you have like an interview for it? No, it kind of just happened, didn't it? I think throughout it, you phase groups, Les has always been it. Because Les is like the yellow person, the sunshine, the social wants to, you know, you were really like that when you were younger.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Yeah, and I like planning things. Yeah, you do. As we've established, so. So Ella, if you're bringing vibes, Les you're bringing the sunshine, have you always known that you had those qualities? Have you always known since you were a kid that that's your characteristics? When do you realize that you bring the vibes? Yeah I don't know, I don't know if I always bring the vibes, just sometimes I'm more
Starting point is 00:15:38 funny than other times you know. You're always funny. But I think I've always been like that in school and stuff. I've always been quite a cheeky person. Like when I was younger, I was really cheeky like to like the teachers, to like coaches and stuff. Like I was just, just wanted to be having fun all the time but I definitely get it from my dad. Like whenever, like people always say like,
Starting point is 00:16:01 you're just dead witty like your dad. So I definitely get that side of him in my personality. And I love that because when you're part of a team, you want to have that band, you want to have fun with people, you want to make people laugh and have memories and stuff. So I think I've always kind of been like that. Okay so let's wind it back then. Euros, it's confirmed, right? You've been picked. It's quite a long trip. When do you pack? When do you start packing for it? Yeah, right. Tony's terrible at packing.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Really? I'm terrible at packing, but Les, way over-packed. Yeah, I do over-pack. It's just easier, isn't it? Just stick it all in. You might need it, you might not. I'm terrible at packing, but Les is way over packed. Yeah, I do over pack. It's just easier, isn't it? Just stick it all in, you might need it, you might not. When we went to the World Cup, Les had an extra large case,
Starting point is 00:16:55 so a lot bigger than everyone else's. It was just unnecessary. It was. It was, and you regretted it, didn't you? Yeah, because now it's too big. The only purpose for it is a four-week tournament, and there's not many times of the year that you go on that. No.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Even like, World Cup's longer than Euro, so I don't... But when you go away with England on tournaments, you get a lot of stuff as well, and you're moving around a lot, so you do need that extra room. But that case was far too big. Honestly, you both probably could have fit in it. How big was it? I can't imagine. On the floor, it probably came up to like here.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Whoa. Didn't it? Yeah. Zell was like, and she did a good job because we were like, oh yeah, we'll need a big case. So she managed to get us the two biggest suitcases. But. You were easily influenced by Zell. Yeah. Oh yeah, we'll need a big case. So she managed to get us the two biggest suitcases. You were easily influenced by Zell. Yeah. But you are quite easily influenced by Zell.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Yeah. There I was, my little suitcase getting by. So the carry on. And now who's the idiot, me? Because now every time I go to camp, can't use it. Too big. Well, I did say, but anyway. It's not a luggage limit when you're checking in. can't use it. Too big. Well I did say but anyway. Is there not a luggage limit when you're checking in? Less probably exceeded it. Yeah probably. However when we
Starting point is 00:18:10 went to Ibiza when we met you out there, I packed, we were literally there for what, three nights. It was all leopard print. Yeah she packed bits in. Every single leopard print item in her wardrobe. I get to the airport and I'm way over. So I had to take all my shoes out and put it in my hand luggage so I'm carrying a bag with loads of shoes in it and I was just like what have I done? Like how have I managed to come to Ibiza with a massive suitcase for three nights with all my cheater outfits in? You never know what you're going to need.
Starting point is 00:18:40 No you don't, yeah you're right. Especially cheater print. It's better to have more isn't it? Have more options, but. Have more options, but still pick the two cheater print outfits back to back. Had a lot of different options, but them two both sprung out to me.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Whatever speaks to you at the time. But on camp, bearing in mind, we don't need anything. That's true, because you've been given all of this, getting everything. You need pajamas, knickers, sports bras. That's it, really. You could just rock up to the airport with just your passport. Chili crackers. That's why it's got a big case. 15 boxes of chili crackers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:15 What's the least you could take? Just that you could actually have a carry on and just rock up to the airport. Yeah, but when you're away, you like to have a few different variety of shoes, I would say. Yeah. Mix it up a little bit. You don't have to, you could wear one pair all the time. You could, yeah. You could. Do you take any like home comforts? No, but I think if I go to the Euros this summer there's a few things I'm gonna take. A candle. Really into my candles. Yeah, I'm going to do that. And just have it in the room. Yeah. Make it, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Homely. Yeah. And have quite a familiar scent that you keep going back to. You can imagine that's comforting. So a candle. I'll also take Yorkshire teabags, although any teabags are allowed. And this is in an ideal world if I have the room in my case.
Starting point is 00:20:03 I'd like to take a dressing gown. Do you not get a dressing gown there? Yeah, but they're the towel material ones, you know. I just can't bring myself to pop myself in one of them. I just can't. What, in the ones in the hotels? I can't do it. What, because other people have been in them?
Starting point is 00:20:19 Maybe they're washed. They're washed. No, no, no. So they're toweling dressing gowns and you prefer what, like a waffle type? Yeah, or like a soft one. We got them at the Euros didn't we? We had our initials on them. Yeah, but they were still towel-y ones. Oh were they? Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna, I want to do that too. Well there's room in your case.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Yeah. Any other non football things that you're packing? When I went to the Euros and the World Cup Joe got me loads of pictures that my mum had put in of like my friends, me, my family, dogs, you know what I mean? Like the kids, it was really nice just to have them in the room. I had a big flag that they'd made saying like, come on, hello, or good luck, hello, whatever it said. And then when I went to the World Cup, Joe had made like a big book. He'd gone round to everyone and got everyone to write like messages in it. So yeah, so like throughout the tournament, I could read through it and it was really, really nice. So yeah, just them little sentimental bits like pictures.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Yeah, just bits like that that you need when you're over there just to remind you of what you're doing and you know, who you're making proud. Yeah, and you'll bring those things with you this time as well. Yeah, definitely, I think so. Yeah, I've got a few nice bits of like dad as well, which I'll take, I always take away with me now.
Starting point is 00:21:37 And I have like a pillow as well that my mate's got me and it's a picture of dad on it. And it says like, I don't know, hug this whenever you need me or whatever it is. So I like to take that now when I'm away on camp. But yeah, it's nice to just, when you're in a hotel room, just to try and make it as much as home as you can, you know what I mean? And not just that it's a hotel room, that's where you're staying for a long time. So make it yours and make it cozy.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Aside from being away from home and your loved ones, what are the toughest things that you need to prepare for when you're going on camping? I mean, is boredom something that you need to prepare for? Yeah, yeah. I think sometimes that is a bit of a struggle, like how to fill your day. We've smashed that now.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Yeah, we know what, yeah game and we like to be together. So even if we're bored together, that's fine. We'll just sit in one of our rooms, put something on the TV, sit on the balcony, go for a little walk or we'll play one of our games that we always play. So I don't necessarily ever feel bored, but there's a lot of time that you have to feel. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Especially in tournaments because it's like they want you to be 100% focused on training and in meetings that you don't have a lot of it. So you train and you might have one or two meetings and then you're pretty much off all afternoon. Yeah, yeah. Aren't you? So it's games, TV, movie. Yeah. Music. Yeah. Social sec. So it's games, TV, movie, music. Yeah. Social sec. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Chatting, just going on, just sat outside. We've also been fortunate that the last two tournaments, one was in Australia and one was in England when it was like the nicest summer ever. So we've all been sat outside, going to the beach in Australia, going on like sunset and sunrise walks. So there's lots to do and England, to be fair to them, are really good at setting up the space so it feels like there's, yeah, it feels like lots going on. Yeah, there's always something to do. Yeah, you have things and ideas in place, which is nice.
Starting point is 00:23:43 You said you sort of worked out over several camps, what it is that you need and how to fill that time. So what have you learned from previous camps or from your first camp to now that you are definitely putting in place? Don't ever forget to take partners, the board game. Yeah. I don't know what we'd do if we didn't have that. One game that lasts 40 minutes, so it kills a lot of time.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Yeah, it does. Monopoly deal. Oh, I love Monopoly deal. Yeah, Monopoly deal. Just play it over, over, over again. Yeah, it's so good. And I still never win. Maybe we can play Monopoly deal and Ibiza.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Yeah. Yeah, that'd be nice. That would be nice. What else? Sleep. I think finding time to sleep as much as you can is good too. Because the days can be quite intense that it's nice to switch off. And I mean, I could probably nap every day, but especially on camp, I like a little nap.
Starting point is 00:24:36 You know what's good as well, like to have a series to watch or something like, remember it was the Euros and the World Cup, wasn't it, when Love Island was on at the same time so we always had something. Every night we'd watch it which is nice it's nice to just write it's Love Island time let's go to bed. It's good to watch as a group. Yeah it is we've watched it as a group a few times didn't we. But I don't like when people are talking because I can't hear it properly. Yeah you almost need the subtitles on. I watch everything with subtitles on. Obviously it's such a huge opportunity. It's an incredible thing to get to be a part of.
Starting point is 00:25:11 But I do want to ask about the pressure because that's immense. You're on the hugest stage. How do you cope with that? I don't think we think about it. No. You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, obviously we're aware that it comes with a lot of pressure. I mean, playing for your country and playing for clubs like Arsenal and Man United comes
Starting point is 00:25:34 with pressure. But I think just obviously being aware that there's a, maybe not pressure, but a sense of responsibility and standard that you need to step up to. And also just remembering that this is what you've worked for like all our years as professional athletes all of our hours and sessions and tough days and injuries and everything has prepared us for this moment. So yeah maybe there is some sort of pressure, but using it as more of like a responsibility that you're ready now to go and do this task. So don't waste it kind of. Yeah, because it kind of on the flip side, it can bring the best out of you. Like it's the biggest
Starting point is 00:26:17 stage. You both actually perform so well under that pressure. It's almost like you step up because of the magnitude of it. Do you feel like the pressure actually helps motivate you, helps get you in the zone, helps you play the best football? Yeah, probably. I think like we don't really think about it too much. We just think about, we've prepared ourselves all through the week, all through our lives to step out onto the pitch at the end of the day. So I think like you don't want to let it pass you by, like you've, you're prepared, you're ready to go and you want to give it your all when you step onto the pitch at the end of the day. So I think like you don't wanna let it pass you by,
Starting point is 00:26:45 like you've prepared, you're ready to go and you wanna give it your all when you step onto the pitch. And I think the pressure is there, but it's only the pressure that you put on yourself. I think that's probably my worst thing is the pressure that I put on myself to perform and to do well.
Starting point is 00:26:59 But from the outside, it's there, but you don't really listen to it or kind of not acknowledge it, but you try and push it aside. And it's how you frame it as well because it's not a negative thing. It can be a really positive thing in the same way that courage doesn't mean you don't get nervous. It means that you get nervous, but then you do it anyway. Yeah. And there's that iconic quote from tennis legend, Billie Jean King, pressure is a privilege. Yeah, I like that. It is.
Starting point is 00:27:27 For sure. It's a good one. And the thing is, I was like, whenever I'm speaking to athletes or musicians or actors, people who are, you know, often in these quite high-pressured environments with lots of eyes on them, they say, that's not the thing that I get nervous about. It's something that you wouldn't expect. So is there anything in your everyday lives or that you've experienced over the years that actually makes you nervous that we might be surprised by? Speaking in front of the whole team. I hate that. Yeah, that's that.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Yeah. Like in a meeting or something, like you have to do it at certain points to say things, but I hate it, like speaking in front of a group of people. Do you have to speak in front of the whole team? We don't have to do it at certain points to say things but I hate it. Like speaking in front of a group of people. Do you have to speak in front of the whole team? We don't have to. You don't have to but sometimes you might like want to give a bit of input or the manager might ask you a question or something in front of everyone and yeah that's not nice. I don't like that. We're definitely better at it now. Yeah. The more we've been involved in it,
Starting point is 00:28:27 but back in the day, or it would be like a big lump in my throat every time I was talking, it was horrible. Yeah. Is there anyone you've ever been nervous to meet? Even like looking back to like your school days, were you ever in the school play or something? Yeah, but I loved it.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Are you like that? Yeah. Center stage? I remember we did, we danced a thriller, Michael Jackson, there was loads of zombies and I was Michael in the middle of the stage. Of course you were. But can you think back to any first dates? Did you ever get nervous and stuff like that? Yeah. I think just meeting people for the first time and having that, you know, a little bit of small talk.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Yeah. Small talk makes me nervous. Yeah. I struggle with small talk. Give me the big talk. Yeah. It's easier. I hate small talk.
Starting point is 00:29:15 You're good at it though. I think you're good at it. Yeah. I'm really bad at it. And I never know how to end it. Yeah. Sometimes I just walk off. It's still rude, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:29:24 But. All right. Bye. Yeah. I don't how to end it. Yeah. Just sometimes I just walk off. Yeah. It's so rude, isn't it? All right, bye. Yeah. I don't want to say that. Just walk. Conversation's finished and I just walk off. Maybe I need a tarah or something.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Maybe. See you later. Right, I need the toilet. Sorry, bye. Yeah. For me, it's always, oh, right, I'm just gonna go find a toilet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:43 It's always. Just gonna go and find so-and-so. Right, I'll use that next go find a toilet. Yeah. Just going to go and find so and so. Right, I'll use that next time then. Well, whatever happens this summer, I'm wishing you the best of luck. I'll be cheering myself. I'll be going, there's my friends on the telly. From my pizza baby.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Yeah, yeah. And then I'll be waiting for you for when you're ready to come out. But you don't know where that's going to be. We can't focus on it yet. No. One match at a time. Exciting summer for us both. I know
Starting point is 00:30:06 Again, I feel like I've learned I have learned more this series. We've got deeper and we've bonded further and with that is The end of the final episode for this series of the Toonie and Risa show with me Vic Hope thank you so much for joining us for for watching, for listening. Remember, keep following and subscribing and hopefully this is not the end. We'll see you again sometime. Bye. Woo!
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