The Tooney & Russo Show - How To ‘Look Good, Feel Good, Play Good’
Episode Date: April 29, 2024After an explosion of interest in women’s football, and their lives, following the Euros win, Ella Toone and Alessia Russo talk about the ‘Instagram vs reality’ of being in the public eye. They ...reveal what really went on post-Euros win, Vick discovers whose feet have the highest rating on Wiki feet and the chat gets weird when the friends reveal their pre-match superstitions.
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What has been the biggest pinch-me moment?
Should we go together?
Is it the same?
I don't know what yours is.
After three, see if it's the same.
I don't think it's going to be the same.
Three. You go first. Okay, I'll Three, two, one. Coldplay. I didn't think we were going to say the same thing. Yeah, we did. I always say that.
Hello and welcome to the Toonie and Rizzo show with me, Vic Hope. I'm here with two of football's most famous friends, Alessia Russo and Ella Too.
Oh, it feels nice, doesn't it?
This pod is where you get to be a part of the conversation with Ella and Les to find out all the ingredients of a friendship that is over 10 years old.
The girls have promised that nothing is off limits,
so be prepared for everything and
anything here with toonie and russo we're back we are back now we're back on camera and on mic but
really we were chatting before we started rolling and i do want to continue that chat because i think
it's too good to uh ignore um we found alessia russo's wiki feet now for those who don't know
this is a collaborative celebrity feet website collaborative where your feet are rated um by
members of the general public who are that way inclined um would you like to know your foot
rating yeah 4.8 out of 5 i thought out of 5 beautiful what i thought you were gonna say
87 total votes 55 have rated beautiful 18 nice 13 okay three have said they're bad and two have
said ugly but i just said ugly oh they're not ugly yeah but you have got a crooked toe
but you have got a bad no i don't think they're bad. I would go 4.8 too.
No, you wouldn't.
I would.
You wouldn't change them
if you could
and you could get
some 4.8 toes.
No, I'm happy.
I agree with the 4.8.
Ella, the whole reason
that we were looking at this
was, of course,
your feet,
not Alessia's.
And I can confirm
that you too
have a wicky feet.
It's lots of pictures
that people have taken or that you've taken and then they've. It's lots of pictures that people have taken,
or that you've taken,
and then they've zoomed into your feet on them.
110 total votes on here.
You're a 4.7 out of five star.
Wow.
Hey, we've got gorgeous feet.
Would I heck?
I would not have given.
Would I heck?
I would not have given that.
Do you know what?
I actually took a picture when I was on holiday,
and Kira Walsh actually messaged me saying,
laughing my head off, look at your feet.
And I must have been conscious of them.
And I just buried my toes in the sand.
My toes?
My toes.
Just in the sand like that.
Oh, it's so funny.
I think I remember that, actually.
I've found a hack as well, though.
Because my toes are quite long, when I wear heels, I can only wear the heels with the um like a mule yeah you know to cover up
like three quarters of my toe yeah and also I've learned from like models that when I'm taking
pictures to crunch them up so they actually sit like that. Is that comfortable though? No, not for the picture,
but it looks a bit better to be fair.
It makes your toes look a bit smaller if you like,
just crunch them up like that.
I just want to describe for everyone listening to this
as an audio podcast that Ella is showing me
with her fingers what she does with her toes,
but this is probably a good place to say
that if you are listening,
this pod is available to watch on YouTube as well so you get the full audio visual spectacle um so just show you show your toes once
more so my toes are in the heel and then i would just crunch them up like that the reason we were
talking about ella's toes is because i i offered you um a pair of trainers to borrow because
obviously you've come down to record this with us
from Manchester and you forgot to bring an extra pair of shoes yeah so everyone I look like I've
got one pair of shoes in the wardrobe but I've actually got a lot they're just at home just to
clarify and you offered you said I could just do it with my shoes off because the setting for this
podcast is like we're at home i know yeah it does feel
like yeah i am quite home that i could put my feet on i'd like to put my feet up on here like
yeah and the we just discovered that the rug was so nice and shaggy it is it's a shaggy rug
we're trying to remember what the word is you know when you you're buying um sheets it's like
the thread count beds it's like the tog tog what is it's like the tog. What is it for a rug?
Is it the shag?
It might be.
I think I like that.
Yeah, I don't know what it is.
It's very soft, though.
It's a nice rug.
Yeah, it's nice.
It is a nice rug.
How was your train journey down?
Better than the previous one.
The previous one, I actually got severely travel sick,
and I've never been travel sick in my life.
But this one, yeah, it was actually quite smooth sailing we talked on the podcast the last episode the first episode um welcome back by the
way this is really nice it's nice to be back yeah we talked about how we're gonna get you to love
London not that you have to like this is where we're recording and you know we want you to we
want you to love it yeah yeah we will get there
we'll get there yeah the more times i call them the more times i uh venture out i'll be open-minded
as i've been told to be i think we can really work on it now after we got to know each other
a little bit better in our first episode i thought i'd be less selfish and give everyone else
listening the chance to ask a question of their own. Starting with you, Ella, because there's literally hundreds of questions about something that you are known for alongside your football.
And you did mention it already in this podcast several times, actually.
It's your love of lashes.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, we've had questions in about your lashes.
When did they become such a part of your look?
I had them, then I didn't have them.
And then I was like, no, I need them because I look about 12 without them like i just didn't feel nice you know what i mean and i
now i'm for some reason when i have my lash on i feel like i look more tanned as well and i just
yeah it's just uh me now but the hard work to keep on top of to be honest and then sometimes
i get to that point where i've got about three sticking out and I'm like, oh, this is awful. But, yeah, I am known for my lashes, which is a bit mad.
I know the feeling when they're like spiders legs.
Oh, yeah.
When they're on their last leg.
And I always sleep on one side and one eye's lovely
and one eye's just got about three left in.
But Lash used to actually wear them, didn't you?
I did used to have them, yeah.
Now I get LVL, is it called?
Yeah, yeah.
Where you get like a little lash lift and mascara on a game day.
Do you care about your appearance when you're playing?
Because, you know, if it's televised or, you know, a lot of people watching,
is it something that matters to you or is it an afterthought?
I mean, I always take pride in how I look.
Yeah, I always say feel good, look good, play good.
It's a motto for life.
Yeah, I might get it tattooed on me. We play good. It's a motto for life. Yeah.
Might get it tattooed on me.
We'll do it on the show.
Why don't we get a trio tattoo?
Why don't one of us get
look good,
feel good,
play good?
Do you have any other
pre-match rituals
or any superstitions?
I used to be really bad
for superstitions.
I used to have loads
of stupid ones. As each season comes, I try and get rid of a few because I don't know Roeddwn i'n bodoli iawn am ychydig o ddiffygion. Roeddwn i'n cael llawer o unrhyw un ddifrifol.
Pan fydd y seison i gyd, rwy'n ceisio gael ychydig o'r rhai.
Dwi ddim yn gwybod pam nad ydym ni, ond rwy'n teimlo bod pob chwaraewydd wedi'u cael am ryw fath.
Roeddwn i'n canu'r un chant bob dydd. Roeddwn i'n cael hynny allan o'r llawr. Got Man United on my mind United are playing the way that United should
Oh yeah
Something tells me I'm on to something good
But like I'd wake up and I'd sing it to myself
And I'm like
How's that helping me on the pitch
In three hours
You know what I mean
Why am I
Why can I not
Get on with my day without singing that chant
I wear the same sports bra and knickers obviously
i wash them my mum washes them um and then when the ref blows the whistle i shout come on
straight in every time yeah i listen to the same playlist every game day is it country is it it
honestly has everything in it it has like country r&b um a little bit of house
a little bit of like like not not sad music but like i don't know like adele not sad music
yeah and then i jumped seven times before the whistle blows don't know why
always seven yeah oh okay and i have actually have seven tattooed on me here it was for me seven times before the whistle blows. Don't know why. Don't know how it starts. Always seven? Yeah. Oh, okay.
And I actually have seven tattooed on me here.
It was for me.
And everyone thinks it's for Toonie.
Oh, there's another rumour from the last pod we were talking on
that apparently Les got that tattoo for me.
Yeah.
I mean, I love you, but I didn't.
No, and I would never expect you to do that.
But maybe we will get matching tattoos.
Maybe.
Or are you one and done?
I've said I'm one and done, so.
Where's your one?
Hiding under the watch.
Which is it?
A little apart.
Ah.
Well, it doesn't look dissimilar.
No, it doesn't.
It's the same place, isn't it?
In Ibiza.
I don't know if you've been to Ushuaia,
but on Best Night of My Life.
We'll come back this summer.
We're coming.
Yeah, we'll be there.
Come back, we'll go together.
They have, I don't know if you've noticed,
they have like a little tattoo parlour on site,
which is so dangerous.
Wow, in Ushuaia?
Yeah, in the club.
Oh, wow.
And on a Saturday, because it's ants,
you can only get ants.
And me and my brothers, at this point, we were like, not too bad. We're still making sense. We were get you can only get ants and we me and my brothers at this point
we're like not too bad we're still making sense we were like can we get our tattoos we're gonna
get our initials and um they were like we only do ants and we're like we don't want ants can you do
letters like just very simple letters like ants or nothing we got so close to ending up with ants
tattoos on our bodies but like if you come back at 2am we turn into a regular tattoo parlor and
you can get something other than ants
but by the time it was 2am
nobody remembers getting them
we all woke up the next morning and we were like
and then three birds on my ribcage
which it turns out are the Lib Dem logo
I didn't know at the time
oh it's not three birds for us though
it's the three birds for the three of us
if you have got a question or something that
you want to discuss make sure you use that hashtag it's hashtag toonie russo so we know where to find
it okay we've got another question here from amc who asks aside from football what other skill
would you each love to learn i'd love to speak a language sp Spanish. But you could do that.
I'm pretty much fluent.
Go on, give me a paragraph.
I could, but I've just got no time.
I just can't commit to learning a language.
I mean, I tried to in school, and it was hard.
Yeah.
Podemos practicar juntas.
Oh, can you speak Spanish?
We can practice together.
Yeah.
Nice.
Yeah.
So I've got my Argentina shirt here
because I used to live in Argentina,
in Buenos Aires,
which is where they speak Spanish.
Oh, nice.
So you're fluent?
Yeah.
Oh.
Whoa, that's so cool.
There you go.
I actually did Spanish
at high school,
GCSE,
and I was really good at speaking it like I have this like accent but I
couldn't listen to it I couldn't read it like but we did a speaking exam anyway I had to memorize
these six Spanish paragraphs I still know the paragraph unless always makes still do it. Hola, me llamo Ella. Tengo 15 años. Mi cumpleaños es el 2 de septiembre.
Tengo los ojos verdes
y tengo el pelo y coto y castano.
Muy bien, gracias.
¿Y tú?
I just add that bit on at the end.
I love that bit.
I just add that bit on at the end
because it makes me sound like God.
No, because it turns it into a conversation.
And you.
Yeah.
Tell me about you.
Yeah.
I thought that was just a round of applause.
It's mad that you remember that though from like how many years ago now? Like nine years you. Yeah. I thought that was just a round of applause. It's mad that you remember that though from like.
It is.
How many years ago now?
Like nine years ago.
Yeah.
I feel like Les is dead proud because she always makes me do it.
Yeah, I am.
I do like it when you do that.
That was giving me proper like, you're doing great, sweetie.
Yeah.
So proud of you.
So proud of you.
I thought that was great.
I feel like we should continue these lessons.
I used to tutor Spanish when I was at uni.
I'm like A-level students and GCSE students.
So if you want, we can do some conversation classes.
What about you, Leslie?
If you weren't playing football,
what would it be or what would you like to learn?
Anything that you'd like to do?
I would love to play instruments.
Not instruments, I'd love to...
Why are you looking at me like that
I was thinking
how many
how I want to learn
instruments
everything
no I'd love to
play the piano
but I'd also love
to just travel the world
see everything
and just
yeah
if maybe after football
I'd like to do that
it's never too late
no
when you're playing
with players
for whom
English is not their first language, have you found that generally they have
spoken really good English? Oh yeah, they all speak really good English. It's amazing, like they
learn so fast. Like they come at first and they find it really difficult and
then they're fluent, aren't they? Yeah. You actually had a Manchester
accent when you was with me all the time. My mum used to say, Ella, Alessia sounds like she's from Manchester,
like she's spending too much time with you.
Her accent's so strong and she's so like,
I feel like I just adapted to it when I was with you.
Yeah, you probably just picked things up.
I feel like I'm a bit of a chameleon.
Well, I mean, you did go American as well.
Yeah, exactly, I just fit into my surroundings.
How else is anyone supposed to know what sport she plays? They'll think it's football.
Exactly Vic.
What's your favourite English accent?
English, I'm going to say the Geordie accent. I'm gutted that I don't have one. I've got
my Newcastle shirt behind me. That's where I was born and bred.
The toon.
The toon.
Toon, toon, toon.
I was brought up going to St. James's Park.
My uncles on both sides had season tickets
and it was just a really special thing.
My mum is Nigerian.
She came over when she was 11
and she learned English kind of from watching the BBC
and the news and stuff.
I think she was trying to give people no reason
to think she was anything less than
in a situation where she was already struggling and being the only black person in however many mile
radius so she was really careful to try and speak this sort of Queen's English
and then teach us as well me and my brothers and looking back I'm like I get
it I get why but I also would have loved a Geordie accent because it's so warm isn't it we all love
out in deck but here we are.
But my ex used to say, when I go home to Newcastle
and I've had a few drinks and I'm with my friends,
he said I was five times more Geordie.
What about you?
I'm not sure.
Wigan.
No.
That's your accent.
No, it's not.
It is.
Oh, I have this argument all the time, Vic.
People say I'm from Wigan and it's not. It is. Oh, I have this argument all the time, Vic. Like, people say I'm from Wigan,
and it's not a bad thing,
but I've got a Manchester postcode.
But when you drive on your road... It says, welcome to Wigan.
Oh, that sounds like you're from Wigan.
I don't know.
I've got a Manchester postcode.
Yeah.
But the only problem is,
is that my mum and dad, and me,
pay the council tax
to Wigan Council.
Oh, okay.
So I think that's where
we're all...
It's confusing, you know,
these postcodes.
Yeah, the bloodline.
These county lines.
If you want to know
about postcodes,
check your council's website.
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of people will go through in their lives and that is that explosion of fame and interest in your
lives that you were exposed to after winning the euros first of all
do you see yourselves as like famous no never no is there a restaurant in your hometown that has
your picture up on the wall not a restaurant but there is a pub yeah in tilsley famous um and i am
on the side of that yeah and it's it's pretty big, to be fair.
And yeah, it's sick, actually.
Every time I drive past, I see myself want more.
But I'm not in a restaurant.
Restaurant.
Restaurant.
You always laugh at me for saying that. I always laugh.
Oh, she says restaurant.
Yeah, I'm not in a restaurant just yet.
Restaurant.
Talk to me about those first few days after lifting that trophy how did you feel like your
life's changed oh wow yeah it was weird crazy really weird yeah I remember actually like after
the euros like the first few days almost feeling like not lost but like you go from being on a schedule for how long were there six weeks
maybe to then winning it and probably like having the highest of highs and then coming out and you
just back in normal life like you've got some time off didn't know what to do with myself didn't know
had to start cooking again had to start like getting my head like out of that coming it was
yeah you like almost come down from such an amazing experience it felt like you were let ddechrau cofi eto, ddechrau cael fy ngwlad allan o hynny. Roedd e'n dechrau dod o amser gwych.
Roedd yn dechrau bod yn cael ei gosod yn y byd. Roedd y byd yn y byd.
Roedden ni mewn bywyd mor fawr ac nid oeddwn ni'n gweld yr effaith
yr oeddwn ni'n ei gael allan o'r bywyd. Nid oeddwn ni'n gweld faint o'r peth oedd.
Yn amlwg, roeddech chi'n gweld y cyfleoedd a phethau hynny, ond nid oeddech chi'n gwybod
hyd at y gwaelodd y byddan ni'n cael ei gael allan o'r peth oedd. obviously saw the crowds and all that but you you didn't know until then we'd got out of it how big
it actually was and i think that just took us all by surprise 100 like i remember we we'd finished
we'd won we'd had the party and whatever and i went back home um because i was flying to ibiza
um the day after so i had to go home get my lashes done get my nails done it quick before i got on
the plane and I remember
getting to the airport and loads of people
were coming up to me and I was thinking
that's weird, that's not happened before
my boyfriend was like Ellie you do know
you've just won the Euros
like your life's
changed and I think that
was just
from then on I was like wow
we've done something massive here like
you can't go to the airport now without getting stopped and getting asked for pictures and
and autographs and stuff like that so yeah i think it was a massive change um after after lifting
that that trophy and i actually think it maybe people don't talk about it as much but i think
a lot of us struggled a little bit 100 and i think we're still struggling I probably would say I'm still struggling with it yeah just because we were literally
no no one cared no one talks we could literally just play football and that is it and now everyone
you're under so much scrutiny all the time like pressure pressure and I get that that's the game
the game's growing women's football's growing and that's exactly what we want for it. But you never prepare for it and you never talk.
Yeah, it's hard at times.
What sort of pressure is that,
that you're feeling from the outside world?
I think we've learned a lot, like, to deal with it a lot better.
But at the start, it was like,
people care so much about you, about your personal life,
about what you're doing on your days off, what you're doing here, there, and why you're going to this. Mae pobl yn gofalu am chi, am eich bywyd personol, am beth rydych chi'n ei wneud ar eich diwrnodau,
beth rydych chi'n ei wneud yma ac yna, a pam rydych chi'n mynd i'r ysgol hon. live their lives and they're in the public eye all the time and you never once thought that was gonna be you obviously we're not on the biggest scale as yeah my mate ellen john talked to me
about the celebrations after you lift that trophy yeah it was a great night oh it was unbelievable
you know what's really sad it started on the pitch and in the changing rooms unless actually got anti-doped yeah anti-doped
i drug testing after the euro finals so it means like as soon as you come off the pitch you have
to go straight into the doping control room and you have to like do all your forms and you have
to do a urine sample before you can go back and be with like the rest of the team so and after you
play a game as well you're dehydrated and you're i can't wait for hours after a game so i was like the one game that i did not want to get
it no it's true it is i really really struggle you were quite fast to be fair i was but i think
i don't know i just think everything was just like less come on you need to get this done so
you can go and we stayed out on the pitch for longer though so you are like your coke because when you drink fizzy drinks it helps and stuff
and cup of tea and beer and whatever yeah so i stayed out on the pitch with you actually a bit
longer yeah you can stay out on the pitch without going in but as soon as you walk through the
tunnel you have to go into the doping control office so we just enjoyed the celebrations but
then when we went into the changing rooms like
we were dancing singing whatever dance the trophy was in the middle of the changing room we were
dancing around it and all that and i was like oh less than even it i know how does the anti-doping
tip take can take as long however long it takes is like until you've weed until you've like what
is it 90 yeah it's a lot so i felt i felt really bad for you then we went back to the hotel and then
it was so good I remember I did a tequila shot with my whole family and my nan was like having
a tequila shot she's like at the time she was like 82 and she was just there with everyone in
the circle with like tequila shots and all my mates were there and my brother my boyfriend and
oh honestly it was just such a good night celebrating with each other but our families fy ffrind, ac yn onest roedd yn wych, cefnogi gyda'i gilydd, ond yn un o'n teuluoedd hefyd,
roedd yn gwneud pob gêm i fyny ac i lawr y wlad yn ein cefnogi. Felly, ie, roedd yn anhygoel.
Roedd DJ, flôr danc. Ie, roedd yn dda. Roedd pawb ar y llawr o bobl, fel, ie, roedd yn dda, oedd hynny.
Ie. Ystod y gynnar, roedd rhaid i ni fynd i'r Sgwâr Trafalgar, oedd and like get on stage and whatever with the trophy and
it was so hot that day and we're all hungover like we'd had no sleep like everyone was just like
I had a bucket hat on because my hair was just a mess like it was just it was like a greenhouse
on the stage yeah like we're all sweating like wow this is mad and all these people were there
watching us and are you okay on hangovers usually or i'm getting worse with age man i'm only 24 okay i'm 34 and i can't drink
anymore yeah i don't know what's happened to me at the moment whether something's allergic or
something's going on but it's not good were there any particularly surreal moments or moments that
really stick with you the The end of the game.
The final whistle.
Yeah.
Me and Toonie were, like, over on the right-hand side of the pitch
and a ball had just been played forward
and I was, like, chasing it down and Toonie was kind of behind me
and then the whistle went and I just turned around
and Toonie just ran towards me and jumped on me
and there's a really cool picture of it.
Yeah.
Every time I see that picture, I get goosebumps.
Yeah.
I've never felt that many emotions in, like, one second.
Yeah.
It was so weird.
It was so, yeah.
Like, I was so happy, but I was crying.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, and then I think it was when we came out of the tournament
and we were back into our normal lives that we were like,
whoa, what have we just done?
Yeah, definitely.
And I think I noticed that when I got packed.
Yeah.
What happened?
When I went to get my eyelashes and nails
done before I went
to Ibiza
I went to my local
green ouches
and got a pasty
anyway I'm sitting
outside shop eating it
minding my own business
I'm at paper
eating the pasty
eating the pasty
oh come on
and then
leave a woman to eat
a pasty in peace
honestly just let me
eat my pasty in peace
honestly
scavengers
they gave me the pasty for free they'll bless them
in green arches you did yeah um and then in ibiza they were there every day ibiza is the worst the
reason i say ibiza is the worst um is because they're in the sea so yeah yeah they're in the
sea and i did not realize this until um pictures appeared and i you know they're topless i'm on the
beach like you but you wouldn't go up to and
this is a very serious book you would not go up to a woman wearing no top and just take a picture
of her breasts like that is surely sexual assault it's a violation and yet for some reason it's
legal and they can sell the pictures i once got in touch with the papers and i was like can you
take those pictures out because it's it's my nipples like i i think i think that should be illegal and they were like well it's a public beach you could go to a private one i was like, can you take those pictures out? Because it's my nipples. I think that should be illegal.
And they were like, well, it's a public beach.
You could go to a private one.
I was like, well, no, because I don't want to stop living my life.
So they were like, okay, we'll do you a favour.
We'll take them out.
And they just replaced them with pictures of my bum.
I was in a thong.
I don't know what's worse.
Obviously, it's a cheeky art.
Why are you paping me?
I'm embarrassed that you're paping me.
I bet people are looking at me thinking, who is that?
Would you do anything different for fear of the paps?
Like, have you changed the way you live?
Or are you like, you know what?
No, I don't have to do that because it's my life.
Like, just because someone's taking a photograph.
I just need to smile all the time just in case they get me on a bad thing.
It makes you really realise that you've got a resting bitch face.
Honestly, I was like to my boyfriend,
I need to look like, if I'm shouting at you,
that I'm smiling while I'm doing it.
Prior to that, over the course of the summer,
when you're training and when you're travelling and playing together,
camp, that must be a lot of fun.
You're with your mates, you're playing football.
We love it, don't we?
Yeah, we do.
We go to such amazing places. Like you say, we're playing football yeah we love it don't we yeah we we we go to such amazing places like you
say we're playing football every single day with the best footballers in the country like the
training's unreal yeah um you have your best mates you see people that you don't really see a lot
um you catch up and yeah you just play board games all the time don't you yeah my idea
that's what we do anyway so it it's a little bit better at football.
I mean, I feel like we could probably do a full episode on what it's like at camp.
I feel like there's probably a lot of stories.
Obviously, being in the public eye,
it can have its drawbacks like we've discussed.
But for the next few minutes,
I just want to focus on the positives.
What has been the biggest pinch me moment?
Should we go together? Is it the same?
I don't know what yours is.
After three, see if it's the same.
I don't think it's going to be the same.
Three, two, one.
Coldplay.
Coldplay.
When they wrote the names on the drum.
Yeah, so basically me and Les had on our bucket list for years
we want to go and watch Coldplay.
They invited us to a concert at Wembley.
This was the first time we'd gone back after winning the Euros.
It was only like a few weeks after, wasn't it?
Yeah, we went to Wembley together and watched Coldplay.
So that was a...
Both ticked off our bucket list.
And Coldplay actually wrote all of our names on the drum.
Like the whole line-up?
All the line-ups, yeah.
One of the best concerts I've ever been to in my life, yeah.
And would go back again in a heartbeat.
For sure.
But it was just nice that it was on both our lists and we wanted to do that anyway.
And then we got asked to go.
I didn't say the same thing, but I'm glad we did.
Yeah, we did.
I always say that.
Who have you met that you never thought you would have the chance to and that you were
just so made up about?
I've met Alex Ferguson now a few times.
And every time I speak to him, I'm just in awe.
Like, I grew up watching his Manchester United team.
Like, he won everything.
And, yeah, he was just what made me fall in love with Manchester United as a club.
So now to have times where I've sat next to him at games, I've spoke to him a few times, a'r hyn a wnaeth fy nghyd-dodd â Manchester United fel clwb. Felly nawr i gael amser lle rwyf wedi bod
i'w gosod y tu ôl ar y rhai gêm, rwyf wedi siarad â nhw am ychydig o amser, rwy'n meddwl,
waw, rydych chi'n ddyn gwych.
Ie.
Beth oedd sgwrsio â Fergie fel?
O, ddiddorol. Rwy'n cofio, oeddech chi yno pan roedd yn y United? Fe wnaethon ni ddod i mewn a siarad â ni fel
tîm ac roedd hynny cyn ein bod ni this was before we played Arsenal at the Emirates. Yeah.
So that was just, honestly, we were all sat there and I was just like this.
If you're listening to the pod, I've got my mouth wide open.
Go and watch it on YouTube and you'll be able to see.
And then I went to one of the games and I actually was sat in front of him. And he was talking to me or whatever.
And then I came back out the second half and I was a couple minutes late he was like you're late Mrs Toon that sorry that was
Scottish and I was like oh I'm sorry like I just went to the toilet you know like dead like finger
but honestly he was he's such a nice nice person and someone who every time he speaks you just want
to listen to every word that he has to say um andessia the first time i met you was at an event
um i was giving you an award at a magazine event and it was all these amazing women there yeah and
that was one night where i was like oh my god look there's janelle monae like there's oh one point
ginger spice oh yeah jerry halliburton yeah i think she like sat next to you i know she i was
nervous sitting down she was sat right next to me i was gonna say because i was like making eyes at you that sounds
weird i was like trying to catch your eye across the table and i was like hi nice to meet you but
there's there's ginger yeah me too i was like she loves a football yeah she does love football
i think she comes to a few games yeah she was lovely really really nice what did she chat to
you about everything oh she she chat to you about?
Everything.
Oh, she was talking to me about the speech
because I had to do a speech, didn't I?
Yeah.
She was like, just picture everyone naked.
Yeah.
I've heard that before.
No, she was really nice.
She was just super normal, super chilled.
There's something about those Spice Girls
because I grew up and that was like the bastion of girl power and it
really meant a lot so seeing her and I remember how much you mean my friends at the time were
like obsessed with them and yeah what they stood for and how they made you feel like you could be
unapologetically you yeah which was a this really cool liberating concept and yeah when I saw her
I was like oh and she shouted across the table she went congratulations on getting married I was like how do you know yeah she seemed very in the
know about everything you said to her yeah it made me think she researched us all around this table
who's made you the most nervous that you've met over the years I'm just nervous all the time me
like until I proper meet someone I am nervous. I remember the first thing we did after the Euros
was the Pride of Britain Awards.
Oh, yeah.
And there were so many people in that room where we were like,
wow, I watch you on the telly all the time.
Do you know who I loved seeing at the Pride of Britain?
The chasers.
Oh, yeah.
I love the chase.
Oh, the chase, yeah.
Oh, my God, it's like I watch it pretty much every day
when I get home from training.
Favourite chaser?
I would hate to go against the Beast because I mean I'd lose against any of them but I love a game show if you can tell.
The stuff that comes with it is very much secondary like going to these events, the Pride of Britain or whatever but it is a bit of fun.
I think that's the best way to treat it is just be like well it's just like a chance to dress up and see these people. Yeah, that is the thing. But it is a bit of fun. I think that's the best way to treat it, is just be like, well, it's just like a chance to dress up
and see amazing people.
That is the thing, yeah.
But it's a nightmare.
Oh, it's hard work.
I don't know how you do it,
because the first time was that Pride of Britain
right after the Euros.
You had a bit of a, what was it, a malfunction?
Yeah, I was wearing a dress,
and it was like gifted for the night,
and then I would wear it,
and so I'd obviously not really tried it on properly
oh my god i had about six safety pins either side you were faffing a lot wasn't it it was like really
low cut here like really low cut here so i needed to like make like pinch it together a little bit
and i had like pins and and then it was all digging into me during the show and i was thinking for god
sake i should just wear another dress yeah and then the following year digging into me during the show and I was thinking for god's sake I should just wear another dress
and then the following year I wore another dress
a lot more comfortable dress
I went and bought it
the weekend before
and then I wore it and
I was sat at the table
and I thought why is that digging into the back
and I turned around and got one of the
girls to look at it, like all five
tags were just on the back I I turned around and got one of the girls to look at it that like all five tags I was sat on my table like already done the red carpet already meet everyone and sat down was
eating dinner like in the middle of a circle table in the middle of the room and I just had
like five times down the back no one told me yeah oh like, I think we definitely got used to dressing up more
and I've realised now you've just got to feel comfortable.
Yeah.
Oh, because if you don't feel comfortable
and you sat there for, like, four hours, like, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Oh, it's horrible.
I'll tell you why.
Because you look good, you feel good, you play good.
Yes.
100%.
Amen.
Yeah.
It's all about comfort.
It is.
Because when you're comfortable
Then you're confident
And then you look really sexy anyway
Yeah
Even when we do shoots
And they put us in some outfits
Yeah
How have you found the like
Fashion
Side of things
Because I've seen you
You guys have done some like
High fashion shoots
Yeah
I mean we've always been into it
Haven't we
Yeah
I've loved fashion like
Always I love shopping I love looking at different things But Sometimes yeah i i mean we've always been into it haven't we yeah i've loved fashion like always i love
shopping and i love looking at different things but sometimes i don't get it but i would never
pick it but when i'm when i'm there i'm like yeah why not yeah they obviously think it's cool so i'm
gonna put it on so there was one though where you came with me and i had this like long skirt thing on and
they had me posing on a stool oh my and i'm like that i'm like a watch on youtube
yeah and all i could see was less in the background laughing a bit i look like a bird
but i was just like yeah let's go for it yeah i think if someone dressed me like that every day
i would like it like i would like to be out there and quirky and that,
but I would never pick it myself.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
It's having the time in the morning to pick it.
It's great if it's for, like you say,
it's a piece of art.
It's a bit creative,
and someone's putting the time and the effort into it.
But it is a bit of fun.
It's like, would I get a chance to do this otherwise?
No, so I might as well enjoy it.
Exactly.
I think like we've been offered so many like different
and amazing opportunities after like the Euros and the World Cup
and stuff like that.
So we're like why not just go and do everything that we can
and explore and meet new people and go to events
that we never thought we'd ever be invited to.
But yeah, it's really nice.
And it's nice to dress up
and not just always be in a footy kit, you know.
I feel like that's a really great approach
to take from that whirlwind
that has been your footballing career so far
and those highs and those successes and those accolades
and everything that comes with it.
It's like well why
not exactly yeah we've earned it yeah you definitely have we are almost out of time on this episode but
before we go um first of all have you changed your mind about borrowing some trainers or yeah yeah
depends what you've got send me some pics tonight okay i'll get home i'll just go for my wardrobe
but something that did strike me um is that we are slowly
building a playlist of tunes that you have mentioned we have on the podcast and we've
only just got started so we've got so far uh Rick Astley's been mentioned yeah we had a little sing
song to last episode Elton John um you said you sort of posited that he is the most famous person that there is. One of, probably.
One of is up there.
Yeah.
Coldplay, we've talked about.
Adele's been mentioned.
Luke Holmes, of course, less.
Spice Girls, Smoother Than Just In General.
Gladys Knight as well.
So I'm looking forward to building up tracks for our pod playlist.
I feel like this is the type of thing that we can do on BBC
Sounds, have like an accompanying
playlist and so if anyone is out on their morning
run and they've listened to the pod
they then have like the tracks to go with it
That sounds good, yeah I would definitely listen to that
playlist. Yeah me too. That's our soundtrack
Our playlist
So to play us out
before we wrap up, hit me one song
Go on Les Fairground Simply Red It's going straight on there so to play us out before we wrap up hit me one song go on Liz
Fairground
Simply Red
it's going straight on there
it's going straight on there
yeah
what a tune
yeah you liked that last camp
didn't you
I did yeah
Leah played it in the change room
a few weeks ago
and I've just not been able
to stop listening to it
yeah good
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