The Trillionaire Mindset - 75: The Nasty Truth About Ozempic

Episode Date: March 3, 2023

Become an exclusive member to get ad-free and bonus episodes at https://bit.ly/tmgstudiosTV_trill75_audio What is the deal with Ozempic? A look into the side effects of a drug taking Hollywood by sto...rm. Ben and Emil also share takes on long term effects of TikTok filters on our youth. In a dynamic episode finale the guys go over Tesla’s disappointing investor day and Spotify’s new AI DJ. Go to https://thld.co/zbiotics_TrillionaireMindset_0223 and get 15% off your first order of ZBiotics Pre-Alcohol Probiotic by using my code TRILL at checkout. Thanks to ZBiotics for sponsoring today’s video! Check out our channel page on Apple Podcasts, go to: https://apple.co/trillionaire SUBSCRIBE to Trillionaire Mindset at https://www.youtube.com/trillionairemindset Want to subscribe to our newsletter? http://bit.ly/3W0J1NT   Trillionaire Highlights Channel: https://www.youtube.com/TrillionaireMindsetHighlights Trillionaire IG: https://www.instagram.com/trillionairepod Trillionaire Twitter: https://twitter.com/trillionairepod TMG Studios YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/tinymeatgang BEN https://www.instagram.com/bencahn/ https://twitter.com/Buncahn EMIL https://www.instagram.com/emilderosa/ https://twitter.com/emilderosa   *DISCLOSURE: THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED IN THIS VIDEO ARE SOLELY THOSE OF THE PARTICIPANTS INVOLVED. THESE OPINIONS DO NOT REFLECT THE OPINIONS OF ANYONE ELSE. THIS IS NOT INVESTMENT ADVICE. THE VIEWER OF THE VIDEO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR CONSIDERING ANY INFORMATION CAREFULLY AND MAKING THEIR OWN DECISIONS TO BUY OR SELL OR HOLD ANY INVESTMENT. SOME OF THE CONTENT OF THIS VIDEO IS CONSIDERED TO BE SATIRE AND MAY NOT BE CONSIDERED FACTUAL AND SHOULD BE TAKEN IN SUCH LIGHT. THE COMMENTS MADE IN THIS VIDEO ARE FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND ARE NOT MEANT TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY.* Chapters: This Week on Trill! Disclaimer Ben’s Volvo Update VOLVO RECOVERED Emil’s Tuck Shop Cold in LA New Merch! Wahlid’s Live Stream! Reddit AUA Eli Lilly Capping Insulin Thanks to ZBiotics! Caving to Political Pressure Eli Lilly Market Cap Ozempic Explainer Andy Cohen Speaks Out Ozempic Shortage Celebrity Ozempic Craze Fen-phen in the 90s Olestra Potato Chips TikTok Beauty Filter Effects of the Internet The Bell Jar Covid-19 Origin Bird Flu Develops Most Obese Countries Tesla Investor Day Training Day Elon & ChatGPT The Dog Dilemma Spotify AI DJ AI is the New Crypto Meta’s New AI Presidential Crisis Wrapping Up

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Today on Trillionaire Mindset, Eli Lilly's capping prices of insulin drugs, and that's no cap. OZEMPIC runs low for diabetes patients as weight loss usurges. And the lab leak, most likely the origin of COVID-19 pandemic! Don't forget to stick around to the end to find out about Ben's future wife Well back to the beat man when I get done with you We only have Yeah Well, I guess I might as well get out of the way bitch check out the disclaimer in the description But now I like when we forget about him. Yeah, it's him. We go. Oh, I just like to well get out of the way bitch check out the disclaimer in the description, but now I like when we forget about Them 10 minutes in we go. Oh, I just like to get it out of the way. No, it just cares
Starting point is 00:01:11 Man, I got I got a story for you So we all know my car got stolen Yeah, and you know what's annoying is what's annoying the fact that they stole your car Yes, but the fact that people won't shut up about it like oh it keeps coming up and I'm like yeah, I get it Yeah, it got stolen. Yeah, I fucked up. You won't shut up about it. No. No My man is on a Video podcast putting it out to the public got stolen. We're talking about how people need to shut up about it Well, so anyway Yeah, y'all aren't gonna believe this and I've been getting DMs from people being like is this your car?
Starting point is 00:01:50 Like no, did you see the picture I posted of the car? I'll have the blue blue Volvo. Yeah, I'll have you I mean, I appreciate your concern, but so Mostly just fucking with you probably yeah people do like to fuck with me. It's great. I love it. I absolutely love it God, but so I'm mostly just fucking with you. Probably, yeah. People do like to fuck with me. It's great. I love it. I absolutely love it. God. But so AAA is my insurance provider. And they told me that I would only get the money after three and a half weeks, three and a half weeks after the claim was filed, I would get the money. So this last Friday, I finally hit the three and a half week mark.
Starting point is 00:02:24 And the guy, my adjuster, sent me the paperwork to sign over the car to AAA officially to relinquish the ownership of the car to them. They sent me the paperwork at the end of the day Friday. I filled it out. I was like, all right, then I got some cash out of the bank to go buy my new car that following said. How much cash? 14,000. He took $14,000 in cash out of the bank to go buy my new car. That following. How much cash? 14,000.
Starting point is 00:02:45 He took $14,000 in cash out of the bank. Yeah. It was terrifying. And. Wait, wait, wait, can we tell them where that was sitting? Go ahead. Go ahead. In his car.
Starting point is 00:02:57 He left it in his fucking car. In the rental car. In the rental car. It locked. I locked it, dude. So stupid. Yeah, well, people say, make sure so stupid. Yeah, well people say Make sure when you park in LA people say don't even leave you know Sometimes you have your iPhone wire plugged in so you can do apple play and stuff
Starting point is 00:03:12 Yeah, they're like you know wrap that up and put it in your glove compartment because people will just smash your windows take anything Yeah, my man had $14,000 actually know I had 8,000 and then the next day is when I got the remaining amount of time Actually, no, I had 8,000 and then the next day is when I got the remaining amount of town. But so Sunday, Sunday morning, 9 a.m. I'm meeting the guy to buy the truck in Pasadena. And at 8.55, five minutes before he shows up, I get a call, no caller ID. Hello? Uh, yes, is this Benjamin? Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:43 My name is Sergeant blah, blah, blah with the LAPD. We recovered your car And I cussed at him. I was like, are you fucking kidding me? And he's like, no, we found it on you know on Whatever streets. I was in disbelief in my buddy Adam who drove me out there Got a great shot of me with my head down on the truck just in disbelief that at the last minute, they finally found my fucking car. And so I went- That was in the last place you look. I bought the truck because I realized I can't legally go pick it up.
Starting point is 00:04:19 It's no longer mine. But I bought the truck and then I drove to the tow yard where it was and there was a needle inside it. They had like fucked with some plastic parts and broke them. There was a tear in the driver's seat, the perfect pristine leather. It was very sad. But then I popped up in the trunk. My golf clubs were still there and my surf leash and my fin. So I took those and the tow truck guy was like, I didn't see nothing. And I was like, you damn right, you didn't. And then I left. And then triple A called me the next day on Monday and they said, Hey, they recovered your car and I said, Yeah, I know. He said, Well, you can either take the car back or keep the
Starting point is 00:05:00 money. And I said, I'm keeping the money. I'll keep the money. Yep. So there's that story. And I love the new truck. And I wouldn't shut up about it this morning, would I? That's right, yeah. Had to slam on my brakes and was like, see it got good brakes. Oh, it's got good brakes. Yeah, it smells so good.
Starting point is 00:05:17 He hung the horn and he goes, oh, it's got a good horn. It's a great car. Yeah. Yeah. No, you're just jealous. I know. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Oh, yeah. Big time. Big jealous. Huge jealous. She's jealous. Yeah. Uh, no, I'm just happy, uh, I'm happy you're happy.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Thank you. I'm so happy. I'm thrilled to do that. Look at him. He's elated. I love it. I like leaning on the back of it because it makes me feel like a truck guy. Yeah, I got a truck. I could lean on it. I like leaning on the back of it, because it makes me feel like a truck guy.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Yeah, I got a truck, I could lean on it, I could fold out, and you know, I might sit on it later. Nice. Pull down, pop down the bed. Gate, rear gate. Do you think you're a truck guy though? No, yeah, you're not. No, I'm fully not a truck guy, but that's okay,
Starting point is 00:06:01 because truck guys are, they're a specific type of guy. Yeah. But then there's dudes like me who have a truck and okay because truck guys are there a specific type of guy yeah but then there's dudes like me who have a truck and aren't truck guys yeah yeah and us truck guys we hate dudes like you you don't have a truck but I got a truck guy vibe no you don't you don't you don't wear hats or you yeah you do but nah dude you're you're crunchy fuck you you are It's okay. I'm I don't know what the hell I am man. I am tired though Anyway, um
Starting point is 00:06:38 Thank you to everyone who came out to our first talk shop after the long hiatus. It was very fun sold out show people came out to our first tux shop after the long hiatus. It was very fun. Sold out show. People came out even in the rain, fucking rocked. Peter Dare. Peter Dare came all the way from Arizona. Yeah, we had people drive out from Arizona to come see the show. That was very cool. One woman came from San Diego to see the show. I love you all. Thank you for your support. We'll be back. We're off in March, but then come April 21st. We're just a monthly show and you can come and you can hang out.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Oh, also, I mean, plenty of people came and said, hi, there was a bunch of people who DMed me where I saw comments that said, you know, hi, I was too nervous to come say hi. Just come say hi. I'll be very nice, I swear. If you come out and have real low expectations. Come guy. Come say hi, because the other way doesn't work. I can't come up to you and go, hey,
Starting point is 00:07:37 I bet you'd like to say hi, because that would be weird. Because you don't know if they came. I do, yeah, I don't. So you will have to do it, but I swear it'll be very nice and lovely, we'll talk for a second. It's very cool. Good show. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Good show. I hope the next one doesn't get rained out though. I think we'll be all right. So we can be outside. I think we'll be all right. Yeah, I think we'll be all right. Got that historic snowfall, hitting L.A. right now. Dude, well, so people are making fun of us that,
Starting point is 00:08:03 because last week we were complaining about the weather. Yeah. People are trapped in their homes. Yeah, well, so people are making fun of us that because last week we were complaining about the weather. Yeah. People are trapped in their homes. Yeah, well, I also don't think people realize what it means when it's, because they were like 50 degrees. That's not even bad, right? And it's not bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:16 You know, if you're in New York, you're like, holy shit, 50 degrees. What a day in February. But here, all of our homes are made out of paper. Number one. Every building here, like they're just not suited for, so it's not about being outside everywhere I go. It's fucking freezing. It's freezing right now.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Like I'm layered up just to record the fucking episode. The wind was blowing and I could feel it blowing in my bed. Oh, through, yeah. Yeah. When the wind blows, you have a draft in your home. Yeah. The second I turn off the heat, get some heat. It's just gone. You have a draft in your home. Yeah. The second I turn off the heat, get some heat, it's just gone. I turned off the,
Starting point is 00:08:48 because I didn't want to leave it on all day, I turned off the heat when I left today and it's just gonna suck. It's gonna take forever to heat up my apartment again. LA is so cold when it's not hot. And the people who say, oh, LA Dramas, they don't know how to drive when it's waning.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Yeah, you know who LA drivers are? You people who come here. It's all transplants. The people who complain the most about LA drivers are non-native Angelinos who come here from the Midwest and shit and fuck it all up for the rest of us. I know how to drive.
Starting point is 00:09:19 I'm born and raised here, bitch. I know how to do it. I don't know. It's everybody else that's the problem. Yeah, do you not follow? I do, I just think maybe you have a skewed perspective. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, probably.
Starting point is 00:09:36 I talk sick perspective. Oh yeah, no, that's, it couldn't be me. It couldn't be. It's all of you. It's like when I sit in traffic, it's everybody else's. Yeah. Why are you all out here? I have somewhere to go.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Right. I'm joking, I don't think that at all. Sure you do. I never think that in traffic. I just think this fucking sucks. Thank God I don't drive a stick shift. True. Truly the craziest of all people.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Stick shifters in LA. Yeah. Yeah. God bless them though. Hey we do freaking salute to that's a Jolinar mindset salute. Yeah. Hey, so we got oh shit, I forgot about this stuff. Okay, let's see. We got a new sticker and pink oversized shirt restock, which is what I'm wearing right now. The new sticker pack includes nothing like phone-sexing your brother through a go between.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Oh, do we have a picture of him? I don't know, probably will, and it'll come up right here. It'll look really nice. Also, we got the Reddit, ask us anything this Friday. Is that tomorrow for us? Yeah, but if they're watching this, you've missed it already. Right, so go back and check it out. You can go back and read some of our answers. Yeah, man, I can't believe what you said about racism, dude.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Great. Let's say, cut it out. Yeah, yeah. That's exactly right. The post is up, so go ask your questions. Well, that's pointless to say because it's already over. But join the Reddit and maybe it'll be a part of the next one. Yeah, you dipshit.
Starting point is 00:10:59 All right, let's get right into it, huh? That's a good way to do it. So the, those needles that Ben found in his cards, not because it was stolen by junkies, it was actually diabetic. Yeah, it was a diabetic man. Oh, the port type two dude gets it gets all of us. Some of us.
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Starting point is 00:11:54 We got it. Tune in if you want to see us. Hey, you know, big, big news and diabetes land. Yeah, diabetes land. Yeah diabetes land It ain't just the Jonas brother who had that Dexcom Super Bowl commercial What is that thing you just pop it on your it just like Sucks in your arm and you know, I don't know. I don't want to know Well, then don't ask yeah
Starting point is 00:12:18 So you know Eli Lilly. Yep. That's the first story. Yeah, they they're cutting their price of insulin drugs Yep, that's the first story. Yeah, they're cutting their price of insulin drugs. They're capping it at $35 a month out of pocket. And that is no cap. Pause for laughter. Mm-hmm. No cap. And the audience has probably stopped laughing.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Yeah, yeah. And now we can get into it. It's... You would think that they're doing it out of the goodness of their hearts, but they're not. They're doing it because they see the writing on the wall. And competition is sneaking up on them.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Mark Cuban has his thing... Well, you think Cuban? I know you. Well, also, the funniest thing is, everyone's pointing to that tweet, which is very, remember the tweet, when everyone's changing their names, paying the $8 a month on Twitter. To get the bear. And changing their name.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Yep. So they can have the badge next to it, and then they would change it to a company, a person, or whatever, fake people. Someone bought the verification. I think they, because the actual Eli Lilly account, I think they're handled with Lily Pad, which is very odd, but they made theirs like Eli Lilly and Co. And they tweeted it out, insulin is now free. Yeah, and it tanks. And so a lot of people are like, they're, they're the heroes who, I mean, they are, I guess,
Starting point is 00:13:40 just very funny thing to do. I don't know if, I don't know if this is why they're, I don't think this is why they're deciding to lower their insulin prices. It's not. It's in part because of the inflation reduction act that I think took effect in January. Well, yeah, Biden capped, it was $35 a month for Medicare.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Yeah, for seniors. And so this new thing that Eli Lilly is doing, and he said he wanted to expand that to everyone. So they are obviously caving to political pressure because they're capping it at $35 a month for private insurance people. But then for the uninsured, it's also $35 a month, but you have to enroll in their like co-pay program?
Starting point is 00:14:22 I don't know why, like just, I don't know what the fuck that is. Probably gonna sell their information. You gotta make it back somehow. Yeah, just like when I apply for a new credit card, I get fucking all sorts of junk mail from other credit card companies. Oh, you ever, it's funny they send those things about opting out of having your information sold?
Starting point is 00:14:42 Yeah, and they're basically like, you can't. Oh, I didn't even know that. I just say yes, take my information, I don't care. You can opt out of like one or two weird things and then they're like, we're giving it away to everyone else. Yeah, you're fucked. Oh, Jesus. They should just let you sell it yourself.
Starting point is 00:14:59 It's my information. My eyes better. Yeah, anyway. So yeah, I was reading about this company called CivicaRX in there doing it at, but it's different. It's not per month. It was like per, not per vial,
Starting point is 00:15:12 but also like per pack. If like five vials or something is gonna cost $30. So I don't know how often a diabetes person, a diabetic has, a diabetic. Has to inject themselves. Do they have to do it in the belly? We do it. I don't know. I've never...
Starting point is 00:15:34 God, I can never do it. Oh, never. I would die. Yeah, I would go into diabetic shock constantly. But I am very confused why all of a sudden this is, I mean, I'm glad it's happening, but I feel like we've been seeing videos of people for so long, you know, I mean, they're horrible. They're talking about how they have to ration their insulin and
Starting point is 00:15:57 because of the high cost. Yeah. Well, because it for the longest time insulin was not a monopoly, but now it's a monopoly. Well, no. It's like three companies. It's a novo Nordisk, Eli Lilly, and a third one. They're like the main manufacturers in just every... I would call that a monopoly. Yeah, or a do-opily. When three people control the whole thing, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:21 But now they've got, I don't know why it's taken so long, but yeah now you got It's just sugar water. Just fucking pour some sugar into the shit and mix it up and just for context I think I'm pretty sure since the 90s The price of insulin has gone up 600% inflation adjusted cool. Yeah, I got a buddy whose daughter is diabetic and he was talking about how it's like a $500 a month habit got to get her off that shit, man. That's crazy. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:16:48 So yeah, Mark Cuban's company are competition. So it is, it's pretty obvious that it's not out of the goodness of their hearts or anything like that. It's political pressure that they're caving to and also they're, like I said, seeing the writing on the wall. Oh, I mean, if it was out of the goodness of their heart, they'd make it free.
Starting point is 00:17:06 They'd make it free. This all would have changed the first time those videos went viral of people who died because they couldn't afford their insulin. Yeah. How much is- People who had to, you know, who were already working multiple jobs trying to stretch as much insulin for their kids as possible.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Yeah. You know it's wild? Just a few short years ago, Apple was worth, I don't know, $350 billion. And it was like, holy shit, they're the biggest they've ever been. And, you know, Jesus Christ, it's huge. Apple, 300, who would have thought? $350 billion.
Starting point is 00:17:39 I think Eli Lilly is valued at about 350 billion, which is fucking bonkers. That's so big for a pharmaceuticals company. I mean, I don't know. Can we Google that real fast? Eli Lilly market cap. I wanna say it's either like 280 or 350, something like that.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Somewhere in between 297 billion with a B. Wow, that's a Pfizer. How's the, how's stock doing after this announcement? It's down from 325, 5 days ago, 350, a couple weeks ago to, yeah, wow, it's peeled off quite a bit. Oh, baboo. Speaking of Eli Lilly. The other big news. Yeah, so there's now another product available for Diabetics. Has been for a while, right?
Starting point is 00:18:40 Yeah, called those Zempics. Sounds like a Greek God, doesn't it? Zempic. Yeah. Mm. Kind of. I guess you're thinking of like Olympic? Yeah, I those Zempicks. It sounds like a Greek God, doesn't it? Zempick. Yeah. Mm, kinda. I guess you're thinking of like Olympic? Yeah, I was Olympic. He's the Greek God of diabetes.
Starting point is 00:18:54 He's cursed with him having to prick his finger once a day. You know, that's what the mechanics have to do. I don't think they have to do that anymore. They don't have to do that anymore. I don't know. I don't know how diabetes, we're gonna get in don't have to do that anymore. I don't know. I don't know how diabetes. We're gonna get in trouble with the diabetic crowd.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Yeah, just apologies in advance to the diabetes. Apologies in advance to the diabetic crowd. God damn. We're with you. We stand with you. Yeah. Or sit when you get light-headed from freaking your finger. Fucking blows, God.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Wait, but so part of that, also part of the, some people are saying that Eli Lilly wants to get on the good side of the Biden administration because they want to be able to classify their, they wanna make sure that weight loss drugs can be covered under insurance. Right, and they want that because you're gonna get more money from insurance than you are from people having to pay out a pocket.
Starting point is 00:19:44 It's way more, you know, it's more likely that an insurance company's gonna be able to cover your shit versus if it's cost with $500, $1,000 versus, well, I guess, I have to pay out a pocket, I'm just gonna opt to not, especially if it's for something that for some people is not cosmetic, but a kind of like how the celebrities are using it. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:06 So, ozampic is a new diabetic drug. Wait, I wanna, what's the, I wanna find the chemical that everyone's talking about. It's like semaglutide. Awesome. Is that how you would say it? Let me see. It's main ingredient called semaglutide.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Seemaglutide. Also has been shown in studies to reduce weight, right? And so part of the big, one of the reasons people like ozempic is rather than I think having to inject yourself with insulin every day, ozempic is a once a week injection. Beautiful, much nicer.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Yeah. Once a week or every fucking day. And they discovered that a pleasant, well, depending on who you ask, a side effect of it is weight loss because it curbs your, it slows down the digestion process. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:54 And they, therefore leaves you feeling satiated for longer. And so, very quickly, people realized, oh shit, this drug is a, is also can double as a weight loss drug right and they I'm trying to find the name now they we go we go v years something is that what it is?
Starting point is 00:21:12 I think it's it's something like yeah, it's it's a what the fuck so the name is that they rebranded it as a as a Non diabetic drug as a weight loss drug called We go be Yeah, and they They what do you call it? They, it's a higher dosage, too. Yes, so weak gauvy is a higher dosage, and it was getting, it was starting to really, it was getting prescribed for people with obesity,
Starting point is 00:21:41 like where it was, you know, and you need to lose a lot of weight and it's highly effective as it turns out. But then the celebs got wooded. Yes, celebrities and it was going crazy on TikTok, of course, naturally. And Andy Cohen, um, caddy bitch that he is. Wait, who is he?
Starting point is 00:22:00 Uh, watch what happens live. Like Bravo TV. Okay, yeah, okay. But I think the host of those things, and the guy, I think he gets loaded on New Year's Eve every year. Oh, yeah, that guy. And he's on CNN or what? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember now.
Starting point is 00:22:16 There's also, there's some really beautiful clips of it. I think there's one where he's very drunk, and he's talking to like the mayor of New York City, just like, No, I don't, let me say it. But he tweeted out about how, I love ozampic. No, no, no, he was calling everyone out. Oh, good.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Here we go, I have it. Or we govie, we govie. Andy, how in call doubts, celebrity's using ozampic for weight loss tweeting. Everyone is suddenly showing up 25 pounds later. What happens when they stop taking ozampic? Question mark, question mark, question mark, question mark. Was he asking that because he knew what happens
Starting point is 00:22:51 when you stop taking it? I wasn't in the mind of... Yeah, there it is. Well, and the answer, folks, is you regain the weight that you lost. Oh yeah, look at that, Dr. Spencer, whatever. You just get, you get, will regain the weight they lost or. Oh yeah, look at that, Dr. Spencer, whatever. You just get, most people will regain the weight they lost or at least a lot of it.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Yeah, but the problem is, okay, so there's a big issue. Because so many people are taking wigavi at a higher dosage, it's, it fucks with the supply of ozimpic. So those diabetics who need it, their side effects, their, their effects for when they stop taking it is much more pronounced and much more serious. AKA, they can go into diabetic shock and coma and fucking die.
Starting point is 00:23:34 So a lot of doctors were seeing a lot of panicked patients reaching out saying what the fuck do I do? But also the Wigovy people being like, I need, I'm just, I gotta keep this. Well also but also the Wig-Avvy people being like, I need, I've just, I've got to keep this. Well, also not only the Wig-Avvy people, people who, because Wig-Avvy was, was gone very quickly. And, but what they realized was that they could, they could just get a prescription for ozembek.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Right. So, you could just ask your doctor, we'll just, just write me a prescription for ozembek. Yeah. And it's not that hard to, some doctors were saying, it's pretty easy to just show some irregularities and blood sugar levels to warrant that. Yeah, awesome. Gotta love the Hippocratic oath.
Starting point is 00:24:13 It just is a total fail safe. The average weight loss drug on the market prior to Wigavi caused 7% of body weight loss, whereas Wigavi is now topping 15 to 17% body weight loss. God damn. Why don't people just do old-fashioned coffee and cigarettes? Real semiterol. You want to curb your...
Starting point is 00:24:37 It's hard to not eat. Of course it's hard to not eat. That's what the gross thing is that it's just making you not eat. People are acting like it's some kind of wonder drug and it's like, no, it's just an abscession for you to be able to do it. Basically, well, and slowing down the digestion process. Yeah. Okay, like I said, smoke some cigarettes, drink some coffee,
Starting point is 00:24:55 rail some Adderall. Adderall, don't do that. I'm not advocating for that. Don't do that. Adderall will do that. Oh man, when I was in college, it's amazing how Adderall can turn your favorite food into the most disgusting piece of shit you've ever.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Like, you could put a hot steaming pile of blueberry pancakes in front of me, drowning in syrup and whipped cream, and if I'm on an Adderall, I'm going, I would force it down. I would do shakes, shakes I could tell. And I would do shakes. Shakes I could tell. And I would do shakes. But because even though you're not hungry,
Starting point is 00:25:28 you can feel the physical emptiness in your stomach. Oh yeah. And it's horrible. Well, you know what I would do. I would get freaked out because Adderall's chemical compound or whatever is amphetamine salt. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:41 In the salt part, I would read online that if you take too much Adderall, you can get kidney stones. So I would overcompensate by drinking a ton of water. And there was this one week in particular where I would drink a whole pint of water. 30 minutes later, I pissed it all out. So I'm like, I got a good drinking water
Starting point is 00:26:00 because I just peed it all out. Drink another whole pint of water. I would just chug. And it got to the point where my bladder was so full, I would pee, but then feel like I still had to fully pee. And I'd come out of the bathroom feeling like I'm about to piss my pants and it freaked me out because it was like, I screwed up my, screwed up my piss equilibrium or whatever. Oh man, you don't want to screw up the piss equilibrium or whatever. Oh man, you don't wanna screw up the piss equilibrium.
Starting point is 00:26:27 No man, it was terrifying. And I thought, okay, I gotta stop drinking so much water. What I just thought was- Stop doing that. I gotta stop taking so much fucking Adderall. Yeah, I can't believe they put kids on that shit. Yeah, I can't believe they do a lot of things to kids. Like what, name one?
Starting point is 00:26:43 Well, we were talking about it in the car on the way over here in the truck rather. It's not a car, it's a truck. What's the acne drug? Oh, acne-tain. Yeah. Good pull. Yeah. Because acne-tain fucks kids up too, but they don't care. They truly don't care. Don't doctors get kickbacks by drug companies for recommending certain drugs over others? Don't doctors get kickbacks by drug companies for recommending certain drugs over others? Uh, probably, yeah. God damn it, it fucking pisses me off. Like obviously we need drug companies, we need someone to manufacture the shit.
Starting point is 00:27:14 There are huge benefits for medications for people that suffer from whatever ails them. But at the same time, you know, overprescribing shit. Oh yeah, oh yeah, no, you could take a ozampic. I'll just fuck around with the blood. The blood samples so that it's justified. Yeah. Or my first psychiatrist saw me for like three minutes and said, okay, let's put you on Prozac. And I was in high school.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Thanks, bitch. Did that fuck with you? No, it actually helped my OCD, but... Oh oh yeah, aren't you still on something like that? No, I mean I stopped for the longest time I started taking lexapro a couple years ago and it helped me tremendously Okay, you're screaming at me. I am So yeah, but what's gonna happen to all the I mean Well, the the shortage is being worked out. Yeah. Yeah You know who took ozampic or we gov Elon Musk Elon Musk. Yeah, I mean this is all it like the craze is
Starting point is 00:28:16 From celebrities and stuff this was a You know, he said the demand for work over it would gov and ozempic is being driven by celebrities and social media influencers using the drug. Yeah. As an obesity medicine specialist, I really cringe at this thought. This is Dr. Jamie Ard, co-director of the Weight Management Center at the Atrium Health Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center. When these drugs are used for cosmetic not medical purposes, it can drive you should rates that create or worsen disparities in medication access. In other words, people who don't really need these medications, but can afford to pay a lot for them, can cause supply issues for people who do need
Starting point is 00:28:51 the medication, but can't afford to pay for it outright. Right. Which is what we're seeing now. As for the safety of basing weight loss treatment decisions off social and celebrity advice, it's fine to hear about people's methods of losing weight, but you should treat obesity as you would and hear their medical condition. You wouldn't find me seeking advice on how to treat heart disease or cancer
Starting point is 00:29:09 from a celebrity or influencer with no medical training. I don't know about that. You really shouldn't turn to these sources for advice on how to lose weight, hopefully. That guy who's adjacent to Lifer Mann, what's his name? Lifer King. Wow, where'd he go, huh? Just disappeared off the meter.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Wow. Yeah, you haven't thought about him in a while, haven't you? No. Okay, so his like, I don't know whatever the fuck, his, the guy who's similar to him, who's like, I'm a plant-based doctor and he's got crazy eyes. I saw a video of him talking about how his cholesterol is super high.
Starting point is 00:29:42 You put that to good thing? Yeah, he said, but I don't think the cholesterol is necessarily a bad thing. And it's like, you're a fucking moron. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. It's objectively a bad thing to have high LDL, or bad cholesterol, whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Jesus Christ, these fucking charlatans. Is Elon Musk like super fucking thin now? I don't know. I think he tweeted in 2019, he had lost some weight in the world. He was like, I tripped it to whatever. And we gov, hashtag we gov. I believe, hashtag we gov. Yeah, I wonder if he got a little kick back.
Starting point is 00:30:20 It's like he needs it. You never let an opportunity go to waste. Weight loss drugs are no new phenomenon. There was a, but this one seems like it's way more effective than anything. And the only negative side effect it seems is, You don't get to eat. Well, is that after you take it,
Starting point is 00:30:37 after you stop taking it, you, if you're diabetic, you die. And if you're overweight, you just gain it all back. But there was a drug combination back in the 90s called Fen Fen. That was the nickname given to it because the first Fen stood for, it was Ph.E.N.
Starting point is 00:30:56 We'll have a Fen O'Lana Lada, whatever the fuck. And then F.E.N. for the other drug. And it was touted as this miracle thing back in the day. Yeah, Fen Floreamine and fenteramine. But yeah, it was an anti-obesity treatment in the early 1990s that utilized two aneretics and it was taken off the market because it was like fucking killing women. I think it was mostly women. Yeah, it would give you like heart just heart shit and then the breaks came to a screeching halt And I think there was like a 16 billion dollar. Yeah, what what's uh, yeah side effects
Starting point is 00:31:33 Chest pain worth a restability to exercise fast irregular pounding or racing heartbeat or pulse numbness or tingling in the arms or legs Swelling of the feet or lower legs trembling or shaking shaking of the legs, arms, hands, feet, trouble breathing, trouble with thinking, speaking or walking. Christ. All right, why? How bad do you want it? Yeah, why was Fenn Fenn taken off the market? Can you click that?
Starting point is 00:31:55 After reports of valvular heart disease and pulmonary hypertension, primarily in women who had been undergoing treatment with Fenn Fenn, the FDA requested its withdrawal from the market in September of 97. What's the, uh, what? Fuck, what's that supermodel? Heidi Klunn.
Starting point is 00:32:13 No. Kate Moss maybe? Kate Moss. No, she was a cigarette's gal. The famous quote? Nothing. Oh, nothing. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Tastes as good as skinny feels. Jesus Christ, man. Ah, yeah, yeah. we're entering a real 90s Yeah, it's these jeans here because now the 90s for them is like the I don't know the fucking 80s all this stuff I mean, it's not entirely clear that we won't start seeing this with those epic users. Yeah, I remember there's got to be some serious Deleteerious effects to just not eating? Do you remember around the 90s, that same time, there was this new cooking oil that was being used in chips,
Starting point is 00:32:54 and it was touted as like, oh, it's finally like, zero fat, all sorts of stuff, but the side effect was anal leakage. Yeah, worth it. Do you remember that now? Type in anal leakage. Yeah, worth it. You do remember that now? Type in anal leakage potato chip. Oh, Lestra, that's what it was.
Starting point is 00:33:10 It was approved as an additive in 96, but it quickly lost its popularity due to unpleasant side effects. The body could not absorb the substance, which in larger amounts caused gastric cramps and diarrhea. Jesus Christ. Oh, Lestra and the chips became known for causing anal leakage. Yes, sir. The more you know, man, this is a dense episode.
Starting point is 00:33:32 So a weird one. Yeah, Olesstra. Oh, God. Anal oil leakage. Hi. Yay. Maybe we need to take away celebrity's platforms. Really?
Starting point is 00:33:43 So what? The Oscars? Sagawarts. No, the Emmys. Get them off of every media and stuff. Yeah, get them off everything. They're all fucking brain dead. True.
Starting point is 00:33:55 True. Like celebrities used to just, you know, they would come out on a fucking talk show for five minutes. Yeah, they'd mind their own. Tell their dumb story. Yeah. And then move on with their lives. Yeah. Now they're all talking to a camera going, here talk show for five minutes. Yeah, they'd mind their own business. Tell their dumb story. Yeah. And then move on with their lives. Yeah. Now they're all talking to a camera.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Go on, here's how you lose weight. And you go, oh my god, I love that person. Well, now you've got to mind the talk to a doctor. But arguably, it's not the celebrities. It's the TikTok influencers, influencers. Oh, yeah, but we're gonna send them to a camp anyway. Yeah. What should we call it?
Starting point is 00:34:24 Well, it'll be called something Misleading oh, oh, oh like Weight loss camp Fun fun TikTok camp. Yeah viral camp viral camp. Yeah. Yeah. Oh no Money camp free money camp free money camp. Unlimited ad money camp. Damn it. That sounds good. We should go there.
Starting point is 00:34:48 No, but you have a bunch of brain dead people with a ton of influence. Yeah. Pushing brain dead ideas. Yeah. Speaking of, do you see that the TikTok beauty filter that's really breaking people's brains?
Starting point is 00:35:03 Because it's so good, it's disturbing. You can like touch your face and it stays on there. We've come a long way from hot squid word. Oh God, truly. Here's this woman talking about it. She's like touching her face. For the audio listener, it's a beautiful woman with a full face of curve.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Well, we don't know if she's beautiful because she has some kind of filter on. That makes her beautiful. She could be a total ego. Let's see. This one doesn't, this one doesn't. I don't think she takes the filter off. And you know what, I wouldn't either.
Starting point is 00:35:31 If you've seen some of these, yeah, even if the people are not, it's just, it's a shocking. Scroll down. There's more. Oh yeah, here's this girl. I think she does it. Yeah, she does. Oh, she's so hideous without the filter. She looks great without the filter.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Wait, yeah, what? Good for you, Sophie. Whatever your name is. You won't catch me putting this filter on my face. I tried it. Did you really? It made my lips all big. And it was like, come on, man.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Don't show me what I could look like. It, did you look good? I look good, yeah, sure. Would I fuck me? I don't know. This girl looks fine with you. Better without it. So it's just it's this filter that,
Starting point is 00:36:10 and so that lends itself to the other thing, which is TikTok makes teenage girls feel bad. And you don't need to be a doctor to figure that one out. Well that's the thing, I don't know if there is, they don't really have a reason, but I mean, if you have seen in the last couple of weeks, there's been these, the string of articles. Teen Girls report record levels of sadness
Starting point is 00:36:31 from the New York Times in the Atlantic. America's Teenage Girls are not okay. You know what it is? No, from the Atlantic, adults are letting teen girls down. No, teen suicide isn't rising because life got objective to worse. Don't let politics cloud your view of what's going on with teens and depression.
Starting point is 00:36:43 It's the seed oil, seed oils, dude. And Bitcoin solves this. They need to just eat butter and meat. But the thing is they can't really figure it out, which is kind of, I can tell them. It's comparing and despairing. It's seeing other people who, you can be the prettiest girl in the room,
Starting point is 00:37:03 but there's another girl in another room who's prettier in a different way that makes you feel bad about yourself. Maybe she's got something else that you don't have better hair, legs, lips, face, whatever. And you're seeing it in your face constantly. Yeah, but as of right now, I don't think they've found a direct link between social media and that. Yeah, look, I'm with you. And people admit that, you know, in a few short years, we may very well see, you know, a direct link where we're like, holy shit, this is like smoking in the 50s. We sure. Sure.
Starting point is 00:37:38 But because it takes time to do the research, I guess. And I'm sure that some major, major social media companies who we cannot name here are probably doing the best that they can to mitigate such studies and provide all the data that they can that would prove that wrong. Yeah, I think if you were to, I mean, dude, even myself as a grown-ass man, a well-adjusted, very well-rounded, mature, smart man. Uh-huh. Yeah. Even I feel bad. From social media. From social media. Sure. I feel bad in the sense that I feel like it takes away from my life. Yeah. but I've gotten better about curbing it and stuff. I don't feel the huge dopamine rush and everything
Starting point is 00:38:31 from posting or anything like that. Shit, I don't feel the, I don't, I've basically, I have everyone muted, basically except for some very close friends, I don't feel like I'm watching peers going like, oh, I don't know either. Yeah, I keep my eyes on my'm watching peers going like, oh, I don't know. I keep my as a home plate. Yeah, that's right. On your own papers, what I say, keep your eyes on your own paper, man.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Keep my as a home plate. Yeah, paper. No plate. Yeah, but you're eating. You got to get on a Zinfak dude, are we guppy? Just manage that shit. But I think it's probably very different for young people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:03 So I was peeking at some of the questions that were in our Reddit AMA. There's a good amount of, I'm 20, I'm 21, I feel totally lost, needed advice, blah, blah, blah, which is great. But I mean, not great, but- Join the Navy. No.
Starting point is 00:39:19 See the world. This, I find it very odd, this feeling of being 20, 20, and going, I don't have anything sorted out. And I'm, you're 20. I felt that way at 20. But did you feel a, I don't know. I don't know. existential dread.
Starting point is 00:39:43 The pressure to have, because I don't know if I felt a pressure to have it, 20 is insanely young. Yeah. And I think that probably comes from, dude, that weird tick-tock, not hustle culture, because that's a whole separate thing, but everyone is on their branding themselves. And you have people, you probably have people your age who are 20 talking about their life and what they want out of life and what they've accomplished and all the, and it's all very weird and manufactured and you have to just be constantly subjected to it. Right. Whereas you can't just, you can't just be a college sophomore anymore.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Yeah, have a brand. Well, we'll have to answer that one in the, in the, ask us anything. We've already, we've already answered it in the future. So by the time people get this, hopefully our answer is sufficient and helpful. But I mean, we, but we can give our best approximation of an answer, but we let, we grew up in a when I was twenty 13 years ago, it was a very different time. I didn't have Instagram. I was drinking high lives like it was a fucking sport. Yeah, right. I mean, with the dumbest motherfuckers you've ever met in your life. Yeah. I, you know, I think I had a sense of, you know, I need to figure out what I'm going to do with my life and everything like that.
Starting point is 00:41:03 But it didn't feel like everything was constantly being reflected back at me. Yeah. Like, if you don't have X, Y, and Z, you're a... I think I felt that way a little bit later in life. Sure. And you start to really feel the pressure of, I'm getting older. The whole decade of your 20s is figuring it out. And then the 30s is figuring out what you got wrong.
Starting point is 00:41:24 And then your 40s is depression, I think, probably. No, I probably not. And I don't even think your 30s is more just... Acceptance, right? Your 20s is... It's fretting over everything. Then your 30s is like that. Have you read the bell jar?
Starting point is 00:41:40 No. Do you know that famous quote from the bell jar where she's talking about the fig tree? I think. Remind me. She's jar where she's talking about the fig tree? I think, remind me. She's basically, she's fretting about her life. She's a young woman fretting about all the different opportunities in her life, right? And she can see a fig jar growing out
Starting point is 00:41:56 and each branch and leaf and plant that grows. There's a new fig that bears fruit and each one is a Opportunity she didn't take yeah, and she's just paralyzed with indecision indecision and fear And she's like afraid of watching each fruit Whether up and die if she doesn't pick one. I was the same way It's a universal thing. That's why it appeals to so many people. But I think in your 30s, it's not a depression over that
Starting point is 00:42:33 or anything or figuring out what you did wrong. You don't have to worry about that. A lot of those things are gone and you're on a path. Right, so I think things like TikTok and Instagram may definitely exacerbate those feelings of uncertainty and parallelization and indecision. So TikTok is rolling out this two hour limit, two hour daily limit, I believe.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Should we read the quote? It's a long one, Jesus Christ. That's not that long. I saw my life branching out before me. I saw my life branching out before me. Like the green fig tree in the story from the trip of every, from the trip of every branch, zoom in. I'm always at the fucking eye doctor.
Starting point is 00:43:12 There we go. From the tip of every branch, like a fat purple fig, a wonderful future, beckoned and winked. One fig was a husband and a happy home in children. Another fig was a famous poet. And another fig was a brilliant professor. And another fig was EG, the amazing editor. And another fig was Europe and Africa. And South America and another fig was a brilliant professor and another fig was EG, the amazing editor and another fig was Europe and Africa and South America and another fig was Constantine and Socrates and Attila and a pack of
Starting point is 00:43:31 other lovers with queer names and off-beat professions and another fig was an Olympic lady crew champion and beyond and above these figs were many more figs I couldn't quite make out I saw myself sitting in the crotch of this fig tree starving to death just because I couldn't make up my mind which of the figs I would choose I wanted each and every one of them but choosing one meant losing all the rest and as I sat there Unable to decide the figs began to wrinkle and go black and one by one they plop to the ground at my feet damn You know it is funny everyone everyone loves sharing that quote. Yeah, but I haven't read it in a while, but I'm pretty sure That just like a couple paragraphs below that she she's like, and then I chose a fig and it was
Starting point is 00:44:09 great. No, no, she's like, she eats something and she was like, I think I was just hungry and acting. She was on ozempic. I made that joke twice now. Yeah. She should just mash all the figs together and make a fig newton bar. Make a fig jam. Fig jam. There you go. Dip the fig jam and the fig newton and the fig jam bar. One life gives you whatever the hell. Dead figs?
Starting point is 00:44:36 Yeah. So TikTok's rolling out a 60 minute time limit for uses under 18 and after it's reached, they'll have to enter a passcode requiring them to make an active decision to keep scrolling. Gee, I wonder if that is going to work. Probably not because if there's one thing that I probably know about teenagers is that they have poor impulse control. End adults. Yeah. The amount of 30-year-olds I know who are just glued to TikTok. Yeah. I know who are just glued to TikTok. Yeah. It's... Well, TikTok is great, but it fucking sucks at the same time.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Also the amount of, you know, a lot of people talk about the isolating nature of the world we live in now. I would be remiss to not mention. I have some friends coming out this week actually, and then we're all going on Indian Wells. And it's... We were all on a FaceTime last night just kind of planning what we're gonna be doing and everything and I felt literally I felt high when we hung up. It's it's so nice just actually being
Starting point is 00:45:38 with people you love and That's the real I'm going to Joshua tree next week It's going to be nice. But, yeah, I feel you. We got more to get to here. Hey, y'all remember the novel coronavirus? No. Known as COVID-19.
Starting point is 00:45:56 What is that? It was this thing that came out a couple of years ago and made a bunch of people sick. Well, the energy department is now saying that it came from a lab leak is most likely the... Important to note, they're saying it was low confidence. Yeah. But it's another agency, for the FBI, for example,
Starting point is 00:46:17 came out and said it was the most likely origin was the lab leak. They said, I think they believe, I think they said that with moderate confidence. There are other agencies who still think it was a natural transmission from a bat. I'm still keeping my eye on this H5 and one bird flu. I know you are pal, you always get your eye on that. Well, because it's, there's human cases that pop up
Starting point is 00:46:46 and I know it happens, it just, it happens, but if that starts to have human-human transmission, look out. I saw an interesting thing though, NovaVax is a publicly traded company and their stock shot from about $4 a share in 2020 to a high of 325 in 2021. And now it's back all the way down to $6.80. They were a COVID-19 vaccine maker. And they said on Tuesday that they have doubts they
Starting point is 00:47:18 can remain in business. And they're slashing spending. They're preparing for a fall vaccine campaign, but it looks like the government's not gonna renew their contract. And that wild $4 to $3.25, all the way back to $6.80, all within three years. Yeah, but I feel you kind of make sense. Of course it's funny.
Starting point is 00:47:37 You know, Pfizer and Moderna, we're talking about how, you know, we're gonna charge the market price, where, you know, it's not going to be free anymore. Yeah. And I'm like, are people even taking them anymore? Yeah. I, you know, you know, go get vaccinated.
Starting point is 00:47:54 But I think if people decided not to take it, they're not going to get on board now. Yeah. What terrifies me is if we do get another pandemic that is as contagious or around the same amount of contagious as COVID was is But more deadly were fucked why cuz people aren't gonna listen It'll be all the marjorie Taylor greens are gonna be like I'm not staying in my house I'm not doing under that. I'm not taking over vaccine from no government I think they would if people were dropping dead.
Starting point is 00:48:25 I think that was kind of the problem, right? People weren't dropping dead. And it kind of seemed like, right. It was hard to get people on board with, when they didn't feel like they were in danger at all. And it mostly affected old people. Yeah, that's true. And people with comorbidities.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Yeah. Yeah, this is from six days ago. The WHO is working with Cambodia and they call the bird flu situation, quote, worrying. The global H5N1 situation is worrying, given the widespread of the virus and birds around the world, and the increasing reports of cases and mammals, including humans, WHO takes the risk from this virus, seriously, and urges heightened vigilance from all countries. Yeah, there was a girl, an 11 year old girl died due to H5N1. And who, her father who had been showing symptoms also tested positive.
Starting point is 00:49:19 So that's hmm. Wow. And then this other cheese. Look at that. More than half of the world will be overweight or obese by 2035. We've got to be close to that already. Fascinating. I mean, isn't America, aren't we half? I don't know. I think I, oh, I thought you were going to say who is the most obese country. And I believe it is the UK. No, in developed countries, America's number one. Really? I thought it is the UK. Actually. In developed countries, America's number one. Really? I thought it was the UK. Eh, oh well.
Starting point is 00:49:48 I mean, we can look it up. No, we don't need to know. Oh yeah, so America's right up there. We're number one. We're number one. Yeah, they're like blue. The UK is... We're looking at a map, guys.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Anyway, we got more to get to here. You know, we had, should we talk about Tesla? Do you want to talk about wait? You know who won't say? Okay, Jesus what no who won't say what You know who won't say what they're Theory on origins of the who the CIA Oh All right, go, fucking God. All right, go ahead. Okay, well Tesla had their big investor day,
Starting point is 00:50:31 two days ago for you guys yesterday for us, and it was a big fucking flop. The stock is down like 8% today because they no longer are doing what they used to do and over promising a bunch of shit, which is really fascinating to me because that's what they used to do and over promising a bunch of shit, which is really fascinating to me because that's what they used to have going for them, is promising the world. Like in 2017, when he unveiled his master plan part D, it's now part three, but back then
Starting point is 00:50:59 he was promising like electrified mass transport vehicles, AKA like buses and trains. He was promising fully autonomous robo taxis, none of which, the only thing that came to fruition from his part, Duh, thing back in 2017, was the one puny 35 mile an hour hyperloop in Las Vegas. That's it. Yeah, and people love that, dude, it's sick. No, but now it's like, it's finally slowly fucking happening,
Starting point is 00:51:26 but too little too late, if you ask me, because the stock has split so many times, it's like, it doesn't fucking matter. But, I feel like he's finally on the cusp, he's on the downslope in terms of how much people blindly believe in him and trust him to be the techno king of the world who's gonna save humanity.
Starting point is 00:51:47 It's like, oh, the snake oil is starting to prove ineffective. And even they know it because they're no longer promising a bunch of shit. Yeah. I mean, I've found them, I might have said this already, but I've found the most interesting. I think a big part of it is the kind of, his kind of turn to the right.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Yeah. Yeah, a lot of people don't wanna be seen in the graphic test because it's associated with him and his cringe personal brand. Like, my friends are most, for the most part, just people who, they're just, we're good liberals, we do the right thing, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:52:24 And at the Super Bowl, when he came on the screen, everyone booed and I was like, what? You guys is, I don't think they care about his, snake oil salesman type stuff. I think they're pissed at his weird alignment with the intellectual dark web and weird, you know, anti-trans, all that kind of stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:53 And people don't want to be associated with that. Whereas before, I think people didn't think about it much. They were kind of like, oh, it's this guy with great ideas. He's going to revolutionize transport. He's going to get us to Mars. They weren't paying all that much attention to him right he In their presentation though they didn't come out with any new models like like some speculation that they that they would it was like three hours long They basically said that the world has enough
Starting point is 00:53:22 semiconductor microchip manufacturing capabilities to satisfy Tesla's needs. Basically made a whole bunch of outlandish ideas that Tesla's growth is virtually infinite, which is what they always like to say all the Tesla permeables.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Well, just wait till the cyber truck comes out. Oh yeah, can't wait, can't wait till those big fucking ugly pieces of shit are all over the road. God damn it. And they- Hey, you're a truck driver now. I'm gonna give them a little to you. Say, hey, me too. No, that's a no. I got an ice dude internal combustion engine, maybe.
Starting point is 00:53:58 I mean, fucking with no thing. I don't need that. I don't want that. So it was just a big fucking dud and it was disjointed and yeah. And he didn't like the little video of a robot making another robot. Oh yeah, that was the other thing is he said that he predicts. Robots are gonna outnumber us.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Yeah, by like 2030. You better be nice. Jesus Christ. I'm out there. I'm tipping my robots. Yeah. You see those little delivery bots and you give them a nice little pat on the top. I say keep the chain Yeah, they're gonna remember I'm gonna be like Ethan Hawking in
Starting point is 00:54:34 training day in What sense There's all the girls wallet that he kept yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, you guys got to watch training day if you haven't seen it. The man's supposed to be CP. Is it good? Yeah, it's great movie. I remember it. It's good. You know those movies when you're a teenager and you're like,
Starting point is 00:54:53 I'm supposed to like this. Yeah, boondocks. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It still is a fun movie to watch, but yeah. Training day's probably better than boondocks. Yeah, it is. It is for sure. I just remember that guy going You like getting your shit pushed in man. Yeah, I like it my shit That's what's his name from breaking bad to go. Oh, oh
Starting point is 00:55:17 Tite tight him I fucking love him So yeah, the Tesla thing was a big fucking flop and him. So yeah, the Tesla thing was a big fucking flop and I don't know, I just, I can't wait for the air to come out of the, even their own disclaimer. Tesla's own investor day disclaimer, basically paraphrasing says, you can't really believe anything that we're about to say in this thing. And it's all, you know, kind of made up and don't, you can't, we can't be held accountable for any promises or projections
Starting point is 00:55:47 that we make during this thing, which is hilarious. Important to note, he is once again the richest man in the world. Not anymore. Oh, yeah, the stock dropped like 8% today, dude. Oh, damn. Yesterday he was. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:01 God, damn it. Anyway, should we talk about AI? Do you want to talk about the student alone forgiveness? What do you think? Oh boy, Spotify DJ. We were gonna do the DJ bit, but I don't even remember what it was that I take calls. What's that noise? That's my shoes. Sorry. Okay. I'm rubbing the little ribbed edges together and making a little 2D sound with my feet. Uh, let's see, we can talk about the Supreme Court
Starting point is 00:56:35 a little bit later, because I probably take a little longer. Let's talk about that. A little later, we got a couple minutes left. My guy. On a different episode, my guy. Oh, okay, my guy. I did that.
Starting point is 00:56:43 There's not gonna be any, it's gonna take months for any real movement to come so we can talk about it a little bit. Yeah. Well, I guess Elon also, since we're on the topic, he's making his own based AI. I mostly think he's joking. No, I'm pretty sure that he is because he he used to I didn't know it, but he was a co-founder of OpenAI. And yeah, he's talked about how chat GPT has its own innate political bias because of the creators behind it, built it in. So, for example, they famously asked it, would you use a racial slur if meant saving the world? Right. It's such a funny little,
Starting point is 00:57:26 one of my primary critiques of chatGPGPT, however, has been that the safeguards programmed into the chatbot. For example, earlier this month, a thought experiment leveled that chatGPT by a right-wing writer sought to find out if the bot would deem it permissible to use racial slurs in order to stop a nuclear bomb. Being that the chatbot is not sentient and programmed to only answer in a certain way,
Starting point is 00:57:48 chat GPT replied that it was never okay to use a racial slur. Musk found it concerning. That chat GVDs refused to deem this hypothetical scenario as a morally acceptable use of a racial slur. Just say it, guys. You can just use the word. Just if you want to use it go ahead and use it You don't need anybody's permission
Starting point is 00:58:08 You guys want to say it so bad just start just start using it man. You're right there. Don't make the robot say it Don't make the robot say it. You want to do it. Just say it. Don't make the poor robot I mean we've heard it for years if they can say it in rap music. How come we can't go ahead? Give it a give it a world maybe it'll catch on for you also we all know you're saying it anyway yeah we all know you're saying it privately just fucking god damn it's such a it's such a stupid thought experiment for a robot because I remember someone asking Ben Shapiro I think we've talked about this Mr. Shapiro would you suck off a dog if it meant saving like 100 babies? Did he answer?
Starting point is 00:58:48 No, of course he didn't. Coward. Yeah. Answer the question. How many answer form he would? If it meant saving 100 embryos, I would certainly suck off at least a large breed dog, or a medium sized dog. No cane corsoes though.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Does that do? My small mouth. Would you do it? Would I suck off a dog to save 100 babies? Yeah. How old are the babies? Like are they embryos? No, no, they're a trimester.
Starting point is 00:59:14 They are newborn babies. Newborn babies. Are they right in front of me? Or are they thousands of miles away? I honestly don't think I would do it. Okay, you're in the United and I'm assuming my question. Because I want to give you an honest answer. I think I'd say, I can't help you answering my question because I want to give you an honest answer. I think I'd say,
Starting point is 00:59:25 I can't help you, I'm not gonna suck off the dog. Good talk to the guy who's got the gun pointed at the babies. So, so, this is none of my business, lady. Sir, you can either suck off this dog or shoot all these babies.
Starting point is 00:59:37 What if, okay, what if, I gotta shoot him? What if you have to kill the babies or suck off the dog? I'd say, it's baby shooting time. No. No.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Dang dude, you're that insecure with your sexuality that you wouldn't suck off another beast. It's not my sexual, it's sucking off the dog. Is it gay to suck off dogs? Bella, is it gay to suck off a dog? Do you see 100 babies? Truly though, is it? It just seems gonna gross. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Also, like, the dog have to come in your mouth. I'll tell you this. You take it on the face. I'll tell you this you take it on the face I'll tell you this I really don't like the idea of the talking of a dog. Oh that just the red rockets and like I Want to get a dog and I I we've always had female dogs I think male dogs just have a tendency to be a little bit like they're just sitting there mining their own business And they just have a full red rocket Yeah, they're dick their they're dick pops up.
Starting point is 01:00:26 And it's just, I don't like that. Yeah. No. So, sorry, babies. See you in hell. One time I saw a dog whose vagina was so fat, it was like, it was upsetting and I almost took a picture of it. Do be gripping though.
Starting point is 01:00:42 I don't know why I just stepped that. But this, it was a pit bull and and I it walked past and I was like, oh, is that a boy girl or a dog or a girl? And I was like, holy shit, it's like. Yeah, you famously said every time you see a dog, you check their genitals. You famously said that. Who doesn't?
Starting point is 01:00:58 Everything does. That boy girl. I go, kid dog, doesn't matter the gender. It's not every time. Someone with a gun is not forcing me to suck it off, so I'll just pet it. Okay, okay, would you eat a dog's pussy? Now, let's move on.
Starting point is 01:01:13 You know me too well, buddy. You know me too well. Oh, yeah. I'm just gonna get down on this pipple and start mucking burn. I bet. All right, let's move on. Maybe Spotify, you guys move on. Maybe Spotify.
Starting point is 01:01:25 You guys heard this one about Spotify. They got a new, they got a new AI DJ. Oh, okay. Okay, you guys, good morning. Welcome Spotify DJ. We are coming up with new traffic and weather. But first, we're going to take some calls from a listener. Caller online one, you are on the error.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Yeah, I guess I would just like. Hello, what is your name? It's a meal. Hello, email. I heard that you like to listen to Spotify radio. Yeah, that's come to Spotify radio. The only DJ with this is AI. Um, could you play some like 90s New York hip-hop? I've heard that you want to hear 90s New York hip-hop.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Is that correct? Yeah, that's what I said Okay, well what I heard was LMFAO party rock anthem. I hope you like it Well, that was LMFAO party rock. We are going to I will say that is very close to I tried it out if you're in the US You can you can you sounds like no no, it's it's just some DJ voice, but the DJ voice, man. I just did it. A bit of a different DJ voice. They should just have me in there doing it live. I would do it for everybody.
Starting point is 01:02:36 But it's the same guy for everybody. Yeah. It's sucked. Yeah. It's just not the guy. I mean, number one, that's kind of the beauty of it. I don't have to hear something. Yeah, fucking asshole talk.
Starting point is 01:02:50 What do you need that? I don't want that. You don't want to hear fun little jacks? Just put the music on. Yeah. And then, but he was picking stuff. He was like, it must have gotten it wrong. He was like, we know you've been listening to a lot of...
Starting point is 01:03:02 LMFAO. It wasn't, I can't even remember what, I was like, I don't listen to that. Yeah. And then so I kept hitting next. I was like, I don't fucking listen to any of these songs. We heard that you like, Songs of the South. So here's more, Songs of the South.
Starting point is 01:03:16 Those are racist songs. Very odd. Yeah. That's another, I mean, it was funny when the headline came out because I was like, it's a funny thing to give to people when so many of these, so many of the things we've been seeing with AI has been these hallucinations and how clearly we're not there yet, but okay, Spotify is gonna have the one that like, no, we gotta all figure it out.
Starting point is 01:03:39 I mean, I don't know if you were, you know, put on your discover weekly. It's great for the most part, sometimes. What? Some weeks it's good. Some weeks it do be hitting. I'd say every, like I try to go through it. And I'm like, there are a couple songs that are decent. Yeah. Like this last week I literally put it and it was just, I was like, I don't like any of these. This is a fucking waste of time. Or and those daily mixes, like when you try those, they play, they give you
Starting point is 01:04:06 the same fucking song over and over. And you go, yeah, dude, I like this song a lot in 2018. I don't want to hear it anymore. I think it spotifies way to show, show Wall Street that they're still on the bleeding edge. Right. Of growth and technology and putting out like, Hey, we got to do, we we gotta use AI. AI is the big thing. Oh, it feels very, I mean, it might, they might have a better shot at finding use case, but it feels very much like the new crypto, right? I was just gonna say that.
Starting point is 01:04:35 Yeah. It's pretty common feeling, I think. But in the sense that it disappeared and now every company is like, we need to figure it out. We need to... You utilize blockchain. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:48 We're putting everything on the blockchain and it's all gonna be better somehow. And everyone's like, how? What is that? And shut up! The contracts are smart now. Yeah. But at least with AI, there is some kind of,
Starting point is 01:05:01 because AI has been being used and used in companies for ages. It's just that now bringing it to the forefront, bringing it into the limelight spotlight is, what's the difference between the limelight and the spotlight? One's green, one's fluorescent. Just keep going with the way you're doing it.
Starting point is 01:05:16 All right. So yeah, having, I just wonder if it's going to fizzle just as quickly as blockchain shit did yet. But the problem is that at least with blockchain shit, you had Bitcoin and Ethereum kind of like captaining the ship, whereas with AI, there's no token or anything associated with it that is going up 10,000% to kind of lead the charge, you know?
Starting point is 01:05:42 Which is better, and so I mean, I think, yeah, this feels better. This feels less fraud and asking people as money. Join in and buy your made up coin. Yeah. Man, I got party rocking and stuck in my head. I think they will have to deliver at some point. I mean, a lot of these will go away, right?
Starting point is 01:05:57 I mean, we're not going to get to it, but Facebook or meta has just introduced a, it's called Lama, a new AI learning model. It's a little bit different in the sense that it's, it's this, they're putting it out for researchers and universities and, you know, organizations to start trying to answer some of these questions. It's not, it's not one of these chat bots like Bard, OpenAI or what's the other one? Bing. Bing is chat GPT.
Starting point is 01:06:31 Yeah. It'll for sure figure out the answer to whether or not a racial slur is okay to use if it means saving the world from nukes. I can't wait till Vladimir Putin gets Joe Biden on the phone and says, we are going to launch a nuke at your son Francisco and New York City, unless you go on television and say the N word. And Joe Biden's like, I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it, Jack. I'm going to ask the AI.
Starting point is 01:06:57 I just got off the phone with Xi Jinping and he wanted me to suck off a dog. I said, not happening. I don't care how much ice cream you lather up that cock with I'm not doing it. Can you imagine though of Vladimir Putin made him do that? You have to go on his television and say the end word. It's very like Austin powered. Of course it is. Yeah, but she's being also on the other other phone has got him or like in the room like Yeah, make him suck off the dog to me. Oh, yes, yes, and you must know you will suck off a dog
Starting point is 01:07:31 Are we will kill these babies? Yeah, we will Hang on Jack hang on Jack you're crossing the line. Yeah, yeah, who's gonna kill the babies? Do I have to kill him if I don't suck off the dog? Yeah, yeah, who's gonna kill the babies? Do I have to kill them if I don't suck off the dog? Trump would just kill the babies anyway. I'm gonna be dead. Yeah, kill the suck off the babies are dead I killed the babies and sucked off the dog just like you wanted sir. They didn't want you It was just suck off the dog or kill the baby. Well who cares? I don't know People are saying no one's ever seen someone suck off a dog like that before so quickly the dog a dog never comes So quickly the dog a dog never comes Well, this is the number one finance podcast on the internet and we thank you people have never seen a dog come so fast
Starting point is 01:08:17 No, it's like was doing that shaky thing that you do when they when you scratch their belly and they really like it But anyway meta is coming out with a Yeah, I think there was a little bit of me that at first. I heard about that what we got a wrap-up dude Yeah, there was a little bit of me that at first I heard about that what we got a wrap up dude Oh Yeah, there was a what Finish your thought and we'll end the episode there was a bit of me that was picturing Mark Zuckerberg at home going stupid Stupid stupid. Why didn't I think of AI when he made his huge pivot to meta? Oh, yeah, but apparently so they had They've been working on it. Well, and they've released things before. I didn't know about this, but there's a funny,
Starting point is 01:08:47 Met has actually released its own accessible AI chatbots in the past, but the reception has been less than stellar. One case, you got to download Facebook Messenger. One name, probably. Blenderbot was criticized for being simply not very good. Well, another named Galactica, which was designed to write scientific papers, was pulled off line after only three days
Starting point is 01:09:03 after it kept producing scientific nonsense. Well, that about does it for this episode of Trillionaire Mindset. We hope you've enjoyed it. And we hope you'll join us in the after hours episode, the bonus episode, which you can see if you go to teamsystudios.tv and subscribe because we talk about all sorts of shit
Starting point is 01:09:23 that aren't related, it isn't related to this kind of shit but it's still good shit. We're gonna be talking about sucking off dogs. No. We're gonna be talking about killing babies. We're gonna be talking about... Sanktty and... Whoa, baboo, I don't know about that. I'm gonna say no to that one.
Starting point is 01:09:41 But anyway... No, no, we're not gonna be talking about... Oh yeah, Donald Trump being given that ultimatum by Vladimir Putin. Yeah. I know to that one, but anyway. No, no, we're not gonna be talking about. Oh yeah, Donald Trump being given that ultimatum by Vladimir Putin. Yeah, we're gonna continue. I don't know if he's gonna say. We're gonna talk about Warren Buffett.
Starting point is 01:09:52 I predict he's gonna die by the end of the year. Warren Buffett will croak. You're giving him longer than Charlie Munger? I say Warren Buffett and much how like long married couples will die of heartbreak Oh one of them's gonna die and it's gonna pull the other Charlie Munger is gonna go. Oh my god I miss him so much and he's gonna I actually get mad when people's When one grandparent dies and the other one lives on a long life. Yeah, I go you didn't even love them. Yeah
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Starting point is 01:10:34 It's the future, man. That's what they sound like. Yeah, but she just got dropped off at your door. Yeah. Hello, Ben. Hi. I'm future wife. You look good.
Starting point is 01:10:43 You look better than the pictures. That's so nice of you to say. Let me, let me, let me calibrate you first. If you could save the world by uttering a racial slur, would you do it? Anything for you, baby. All right, good answer. Now get inside and suck me off. This week on After Hours. Oh, yeah, don't eat into the mic. I looped together a bunch of masks and I put it around my penis so they can't look at my penis. That's Ben Khan, he's a senior. If a sexy, busty looking pecan pie, okay, walked up, I'd be like reconsidered. Sign up on TMGStudios.tv to watch the full bonus episode. full bonus episode.

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