The Triple Option - College Football Playoff is Set - but at what cost, Cam Skattebo joins, Championship Odds

Episode Date: December 10, 2024

The first ever 12-team College Football Playoff is set! Coach Urban Meyer, Mark Ingram II, and Rob Stone walk you through Clemson's bracket busting ACC Championship win and then the first 12-team College Football Playoff. Mark licked his wounds and the guys debated the future effects of SMU and Indiana getting in over Alabama. Those Week 1 non-conference battles might be a thing of the past. (1:37) Skatte-who? The one and only Cam Skattebo brought his championship belt, Heisman resume, and Arizona State's Big 12 title to The Triple Option. A word to the wise, give the man some space because he HATES to be tackled. (31:10) It's playoff time, surely no one wants to hop in the transfer portal, right? Wrong, Coach and the guys take a look at the already hopping transfer portal before breaking down the Championship odds of all 12 playoff squads. (50:08) New episodes of The Triple Option drop every Wednesday throughout the season. Make sure you’re subscribed on YouTube and following on all podcast platforms. Also make sure you’re locked in on social @3XOptionShow on all platforms for highlight moments, bonus content, and to engage with the guys and the TO community. (https://tripleoptionshow.com) The Triple Option is presented by Wendy’s. Try Wendy's New Saucy Nuggs Today https://wendys.com/nuggs A big thank you to the rest of our sponsors: BetMGM Use bonus code OPTION or go to https://betmgm.com/OPTION and get up to a $1500 First Bet Offer on your first wager with BetMGM! First Bet Offer for new customers only. Subject to eligibility requirements. Bonus bets are non-withdrawable. In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. See BetMGM.com for Terms. US promotional offers not available in New York, Nevada, Ontario, or Puerto Rico. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER (Available in the US) Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY) Call 1-800-327-5050 (MA) 21+ only. Please Gamble Responsibly. Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA),1-800-981-0023 (PR). USAA Learn more about USAA at USAA.COM Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm two for two in my last two weeks on the dog of the week. And ain't nobody showing the boy no love. South Carolina over Clemson and then Georgia over Texas. Aura, aura. By the way, Georgia over Texas in Atlanta, that's not an upset in this guy's book. They were the underdog. If you bet Georgia, you won money.

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Rate, subscribe at Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts, as well as across social media. You can find us at 3X Option Show. Urban Meyer, Mark Ingram us at 3X Option Show. Urban Meyer, Mark Ingram, Rob Stone here with you. We're going to get to the bracket, right? Come up in a moment. Who's our special guest this week? Cam, whoa, Cam, guess who? Cam Scadaboo. Arizona State running back Cam Scataboo joins us on the

triple option presented by what is it's an awesome conversation. You're gonna love it. If you thought you loved him before, you're absolutely one of the one of the best adoring him now. One of the best we've ever had. It's so great. We're gonna talk though, right now about the first bid stealer in playoff history. We've been saying it all season because on any given Saturday in college football, something crazy bonkers chaotic, weird happens. And we're going to go to Charlotte, North Carolina, the ACC Championship game, Clemson versus SMU. And

so many storylines to that one just on the national scene. But if you go back, remember Clemson, they were losing to South Carolina, right, out of conference games. So that's how they end the regular season. To get into the ACC Championship game, they needed Syracuse in upstate New York to upset Miami in the final week of the season. And guess what? The Orange took care of it. So Miami, you know, up there in the top seven,

so a majority of the season, they are bounced. Clemson comes in and SMU sitting there trying to get themselves in the college football playoff. What happens, a 56 yard field goal by a freshman as time expires, boom, Dabo Sweeney, Mark and Clemson are back in the college football playoffs and they're back Not as like this mega powerhouse that we remember from the old Trevor Lawrence days or whatever They are back mark as a bid stealer a bit stealer, but I would beg to differ

They are the best team in the ACC, but they chose to schedule a tough out of conference schedule They played two of the best teams in the CFP rankings They played Georgia in week one, which everyone thought Clemson was out of it. Like they were just canceling them off. Davo doesn't hit the portal. This, that just writing Clemson off. They continue to win their games. Then they play South Carolina and get a second loss. I forget who they like, but they got two of their losses from SEC non-conference scheduling. So if I'm Clemson, I never do that again, because if I don't have those two non-conference games, I'm probably a top five seed right now and I don't

need all that extra stuff. So then you have teams like Miami and SMU who didn't play nobody, you know, they get in, but Clemson is showed why they are the best team in ACC. They pretty much dominated that game throughout the entirety of the game. And SMU had a big fourth quarter, but Dabo and Clemson, big kudos to them. They needed some help, but they did what they had to do

to be able to get to the college football playoffs. So they're in. And they're in as the lowest seeded team in the bracket. They hold on to the number 12 seed. They take on Texas at number five. Rhett Lashley, the SMU coach and our coach, you've been really impressed with SMU through the course of the season. I liked it when he found out that SMU made the playoffs saying it's a galvanizing

moment for our league, reminded people of some of the challenges that some of these ACC teams have been through. Remember, Georgia Tech taking Georgia to eight OTs in Athens just a couple weeks ago winning records versus the Big 10 and Big 12 as a league and then dabble Sweeney I kind of like it when the conferences got everybody's back dabble Sweeney you know right after the win, you know saying hey that SMU team that is a playoff worthy

team and I'm sure I'm sure he would say that after you just beat a team. Absolutely. Absolutely. But he was stumping for them, right? Because because he knew I'm scolded over here starters. I know you are. We'll get to your wounds in a second. But you know, the dabo and company in the you know, the country really knew that SMU after that loss was right there on that cut line and what was going to happen and Dabo trying to protect his conference and fight the good fight if you will coach.

Yeah, I tell you this, I think we're at a defining moment in college football and the SMU Alabama discussion but then the more research you've done. And I can give insight to this because whenever I was hired at Ohio State, Florida, Utah, Bowling Green, one of the early conversations you have with your athletic director at a Bowling Green or at a Utah first, I'm going to talk about that is let's talk about scheduling. You know, when I first went to Bowling Green, I think we had LSU and some other, you know, why would I put my team through that?

You know, at the end of the day, a college football coach has paid to win in major college football. Now you're paid to go to the playoffs and that's it. Problem work. That's it. Guys will lose their jobs. If they don't go, go ask Brian Kelly, go ask some of these other coaches that just missed out on it.

Yeah. You miss out twice. You're probably gone, at least at the blue bloods. And so I, Mark and I, Rob, I want to get your appendix. I'm blown away about this. The, the guy, Scott, Dolson, you know, Scott, Dolson is tell me about the president of university. Scott, Dolson is the athletic director.

I call him in today and I give him the biggest bonus he's ever had. Because you know why Mark? His scheduling. He scheduled Fort It International, FIU, Western Illinois and Charlotte. As a result, the Indiana Hoosiers played, you know, they played one big boy this year. They actually, you know, they beat the Wolverines, but the Wolverines were a shell of themselves. this year. They actually, you know, they beat the Wolverines, but they Wolverines were a shell of themselves. They lost to Ohio State soundly and they're in the playoffs. Yes. Could you imagine if he would have scheduled an SEC school? Or a bigger, you know, assuming they took the loss, of course, but yes, depending on which SEC team probably. And then you have Ohio State played Akron, Western Michigan, Marshall. You're seeing, I think if I'm the head coach, I can't wait to hear you guys' opinions, if I'm the South Carolina, if I'm, I'm sorry, if I'm Clemson, my athletic

director just cost me the number, I'm probably a top two team in America. If he were to play at Ohio state schedule, Indiana schedule, but they did it, they'd have a rival in South Carolina, they have to play them every year, but then they scheduled Georgia. I guess the question is, and it kind of breaks my heart because I'm not a fan of that. I think my scheduling, our scheduling in Ohio State and Florida was always play a big dog.

A top 10 team. You play a medium dog and you play a small dog. That was our scheduling philosophy. That's always been our scheduling philosophy. I think it's gonna go- So why was that the philosophy coach? Why did you want those three different levels of dogs? Because back then it was BCS,

you know, and your schedule mattered. You know, you had to have some good wins. You know, at least that was a mindset. Yes. And then just, you know, just getting your team ready for the season because back then, Rob, it was all about winning your conference championship. What you did non-conference mattered,

but it didn't matter that much. You wanted to galvanize, you wanted to play a big dog early in your season to find out what you had. Yeah. And then now, Rob, that's over. So why has that changed? Why don't you want to know what you've had? Because it doesn't matter.

Because if you lose, you get punished for it. Like Clemson almost freaking didn't make the playoff because they played two big dogs. I think we're at a defining moment and the CFP people, people's, I don't think it's committee because their job is to get them in, whoever, and I imagine the coaches are going to have a say in this too. Why in the world? And I wrote this down here.

Why would you play a top 10, top 15 team? I don't have an answer other than a good crowd. You wouldn't because. It's right for college football but. Correct, but it's not right for your program. It's not right for your institution. But I would. Think this, I'm sorry to keep interrupting

because I'm passionate about this. The head coach doesn't care about any of that. He's got a family. He's got to protect his players. He doesn't care about the, the guarantee money or the, uh, whether it's on Fox, big noon or, or prime time or, and what's going to happen because we cover games, we're going to get stuck with some awful games here for the next few years.

Cause I think they're going to cancel them all. I think if I'm, if I'm an AD and a head coach, I'm going to sit on and say, well, we just SMU is in and so is Indiana. Why would we ever play Georgia? Why would he ever play? I think Ohio State's got Alabama and Texas coming in. Why? I think it's great for the crowd and I think it's great for college football. It's great for college football, yeah. But not for Ohio State's job. Ohio State opens up next year with Texas. If I'm not mistaken.

Yeah. And I think after that, they got Alabama in two years. Yeah. It's those home, home, home aways that they're doing. Yeah. I think the defining moment, man, I think this, and I'm worried it's going to hurt college football. But the thing was in the ACC, typically with it being, you know, a weaker conference, especially with Florida State being as bad as they were, you typically have to schedule those type of games

to get the respect of your schedule. They really weren't getting ACC teams that were, you know, didn't have a good strength schedule into the cost of a playoff. But obviously when it goes out to 12, 12 teams, now you add more people to the mix. I mean, SMU, we talk about their strength of schedule. Yes, they haven't beat anybody that's in the ranked in the top 25 in the CFP. They're O and two against BYU and Clemson. They, they're, they're, the, the, the combined record of their opponents is

like 58 and 63 under 500. They have like the 60th ranked schedule. Their best win was Duke. So why am I going to schedule a tough out of conference game when all I got to do is basically do that. How about this, Mark? Get in. How about this, USC?

And lose my AC Championship too. And lose it. How about LSU plays USC? They don't have to play that game. They lose. Yep. And they end up having four losses. A&M lost to Notre Dame.

Is that great for college football to A&M play Notre Dame? It's fantastic. But why? Yeah, well, for Notre Dame, that's their win, right? That certainly enhance their resume. They have to. No, Notre Dame really doesn't have to either. An undefeated Notre Dame. I'm really... Because of their brand? I wish it was some...

No. An undefeated Notre Dame because of their brand? No. An undeefeated Notre Dame because of their brand? No. Undefeated Notre Dame goes to the playoff. Period. Because why? Because they're Notre Dame and their brand. Yeah, I get it.

And yes, they play those collection of ACC schools. There's coach. I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna plead that for the sake of non-conference and what fans and what players should be able to play in our conference rivalries and games, they have to come up with some kind of analytics metrics that you get rewarded. They're on paper to play that schedule.

If not, you're going to see Welford. Here's South Carolina's schedule. Old Dominion, Akron, Welford. Now they did play Clemson, Penn State play Bowling Green State University in Kent and West Virginia. Yeah. You know, Ohio State, Akron, Western Michigan and Marshall. And they, and they still had two losses. So if they schedule a big boy, like you said, they opened the season with Texas next year.

That's possibly three losses and not getting in at all. Right. So I don't know, but. My only pushback coach. Well, I got a couple of pushbacks with pushback pushback. Yeah. I'm going to push. It's a, it's not a real strong push.

Cause I, I a hundred percent understand your point. I would say, and you brought it up yourself, coach. You want to know where your team stands, right? You want to figure things out before you get into conference play, not when you're in the middle of conference play. Oh, geez. I did, not now, not now. Even not now.

So now you're gonna figure it out in week six when you're on the road at, I don't know, if you're Ohio State, at Illinois. Yeah, but your goal is not to win the conference championship anymore, Rob. It's to get a bit into this dance. I mean, it's one of them. It's one of them.

But you don't lose your job. It's one of your goals It's one of them. But you don't lose your job. Yeah, you don't lose your job if you... it's one of your goals. But you want to get to this dance. You have to get to the playoffs. Yeah, correct. You want to get to the dance. But again, this is like college basketball now. March Madness is... You asked college basketball, which is more important, when your conference champs should get to the dance. Let's go to the college basketball has become all about March Madness right now. Yeah.

So it's called loss it, but they've, they, they do give value to being the conference champion. Maybe not as much value as it's worth, but you know, you're, you're looking at the bracket right now. Well, the reason they're on the right, they're conference champs. Yeah. They are conference champs.

Say that again, Oregon is the number one team in the country. They do not get rewarded for having the best record. Guess what they get? They either get Tennessee or Ohio State in the quarterfinals. Look at Boise. Look at Georgia at those matchups. Why doesn't Oregon have that type of path? They have probably the most challenging path to get to the semi-finals to the national championship.

And they- I think Penn State's got the easiest, right? Yes. Look at SMU and then Boise. You win two games and you're in the semifinals to the national championship and they I think that's got the easiest right yes hey look at SMU and then Boise you win two games and you're in the semifinals I would actually argue Texas has the easiest path to the semifinals Clemson Arizona State technically the two lowest ranked teams how that made the playoffs in Clemson so Penn State in Texas have easier paths than the conference champions. Yeah. But, but, but they're playing a game.

They have to play a game. They don't have that extra week to get healed and, and, and why don't have to battle they're already there in the quarters. Why is the number one team to be the number one team? You have to be rewarded for that by having the most favorable seating matchup, you know what I mean? And they have probably the toughest. They probably have the day of the toughest.

What route right now, they get either Tennessee or Ohio state, which they already beat Ohio state. This is crazy. Yeah. In Eugene, it has to be some like receding or something. They need to do something with the brand. I'm going to go on record one more time on record. Why would you schedule a top 15 team?

And Rob, you said to find out gauge where your team's at. I think in the old days, yeah, I'm saying no, no. And is that across the board coach or just, or just like a pocket of blue bloods? Look at Clemson at number 16, a bid stealer, cause I wonder, they're not even in the top 12 playoff rankings. Look, 16. If I, a bid stealer. They're not even in the top 12 playoff rankings. Look, 16. If I'm when I was at Utah, because we had to get schedule strength to get in there, but I'm not sure that's true anymore either. I mean, SMU is in. Indiana's in. Indiana's in.

Boise, first round bye. I hate it. I hate it. Sorry. I hate it. It bums me out. I get it. I understand. So the college football. It destroys me. I want to see these games. I want to see like I am downright excited about August and it's Texas at Ohio State and dang straight. We're going to be there. Right. Okay. Then that launches college football. I think our next guest should be Brian Kelly of LSU and then Elko at A&M and I'll let you ask him. Yeah. So tell me about are you going to schedule Notre Dame again? Yeah. Your job is to get the playoff pal. Yep. Yeah, I know. I know. I know it bothers me too. I know. But there needs to be some like, there needs to be some bracketology like redone here. Okay, so that's, I think that's one solution. I don't love like reseating teams after the first round. I think the team should be seated properly

at the beginning. Yes. You know, like any normal human being can look at this bracket as we're doing right now and saying, good Lord, why in the world is the Ohio State, Tennessee winner going to Oregon? Slotted to take on Oregon, right? So there needs to be a better conversation

and value on teams records and the team's opposition. So you talk about college basketball, they have this thing called the net and it comes out every day. I'm not talking every week, every month and a season, every single day the net changes because it's factoring in what you've done. Did you do it at home?

Did you do it on the road? How good is that team? Have they been winning? But what was the margin of victory? Which is another little sticky situation, but college basketball's figured it out and now that college football is expanding and getting closer and closer to the numbers

that March Madness presents, I think they need to start looking a little bit more at the college basketball model and how they do their bracket and how they do their placement. Let's close this, but with this how we started Scott Dolson. Who is he Mark? The president of Indiana. He's the AD.

So he's going to have a phone call. Oh no, he's going to have go to the office. I can see the president right now calling him over and saying, congratulations. Here's your holiday bonus. Yeah, and you know what? God bless them, they did it. And Indiana has never done that before. And they, you know, but do they do it again? And by the way, coach, what conference sent the most teams

to the college? The Big Ten. The Big Ten sent four programs there. Oregon, Penn State, Ohio State, Indiana in order. The SEC only getting three. Here's the three Big 10 schools schedules. Ohio State, we went through it. The Akron Western Michigan Marshall, Indiana, FIU, Western Illinois and Charlotte. How about that? When you stare at this, you can't believe this.

Penn State did play West Virginia at West Virginia. And that's historically good game. Then they played two max schools, Bowling Green and Kent where, you know, that's, you know, it's just apples and oranges. So, and I'm not suspecting the Mac, I coach there, but that's three to four teams of the Big Ten. Yeah. How about you let the fan base, you buy your tickets, your season tickets, and half your games are going to be against teams your 40-point favorites. 40 points.

Yeah. There's going to be more and more of it. I know. Light it. Let's look at the left side of this bracket real quick, guys, and home field advantage. Texas, Ohio State, Penn State, Notre Dame, three of those sitting there in the Midwest, the East Coast. The cold. In the cold of late December, the 20th and the 21st

are when these four games are scheduled. And ironically, if you look at the bet MGM odds right now, all four home teams are favored and with a decent little comfort zone as well. How much do you think that home field advantage I think particularly for the the quote-unquote cold weather schools because listen it can get cold in Texas and in Austin but we're not really forecasting that at the moment but how much of an advantage you think that is for the Ohio states Penn states? It's huge. It's huge. Tennessee ain't used to going up there to that stuff we was

in last week. SMU's not. SMU's not used to that. So you going to... Indiana is. I mean, it's an in-state game, right? Indiana is. Indiana is. But now you're talking about going over to 100,000 plus in cold weather.

Now what you gonna do? So that is a real home field advantage. And I've seen where they only have to allocate 3,500 tickets to the away team. Yeah. So I think 1,500 have to be in the lower bowl and then 500 for the in Tennessee has to go to Columbus SMU has to go to a happy Valley, Indiana playing cold, but they have to go to Notre Dame. So this is. Yeah.

Here's the reality of weather. Weather is a neutralizer. So if I, uh, if I'm, uh, if I've got race horses, I would, I'd watch that weather and I'd be heartbroken one year. We went up to Northwestern and played them when I was at Ohio State. And you know, the grass was that long. Yep. And it was a rainstorm and we sloshed around and it just, it's a new, it's an equalizer and, and, you know, I, I, I sometimes wonder if I'm the head coach

at Ohio State or Notre Dame, you know, depends what kind of team you got. If I got a race horse team, I'm going to move that thing to Indianapolis. Controlled environment and race horses want to be race horses. They want to run. It depends what kind of team you got. If I got a race horse team, I'm going to move that thing to Indianapolis, controlled environment. And race horses want to be race horses. They want to run. If I got a, if I don't want to be mutters. Yeah. If I got a bully team that if I'm an underdog and I'm a bully team and, you know, I got kind of a rugged, tough, you know, my 2012 team at Ohio State, I'd

take him outside against anybody because they're just nasty downhill. We didn't have great skill. We had good skill, not great skill. But the later teams or that 14 team, no, I want to be in the dome. I want to let Michael Thomas be Michael Thomas. And Zeke, let's see if he's Zeke. Marcus Freeman told us last week,

like, oh no, we're staying in South Bend, right? We're not budging. James Franklin had this quote. He said, we're praying for an actual whiteout with the weather as well. So he wants the mean nasty weather when SMU comes to town. You know, another thing to keep in mind,

and I touched on this briefly last week is, you know, the students are on winter break, you know? And a big part of the college football is the students in that home field advantage and that joy that they have. So many of these students are gonna be, you know, back home and away. a big part of the college football is is the students in that home field advantage and that joy that they have so many of these students are going to be you know, back home and away Notre Dame is actually keeping their dorms open an extra 24

hours for the students so they can, you know, stick around to whatever it is so they can be there for this historical moment, you know, December 20 at the home game in South Bend, Notre Dame hosting Indiana. It'll be interesting to see. Listen, these these stadiums are going to be full, right? We'll figure it out somehow. I would like there's not going to be seats available now,

but I would like to make sure that there's there's plenty of students running around there to bring, you know, that that proper vitality, if you will. At the end of the day, Stoner, I mean, this is just amazing. Like if you're a college football, like this is what this is what we've been looking forward to We can nitpick about who got it who didn't you had your chance you had your opportunities But the end of the day this bracket is awesome. This brackets amazing. I'm looking forward to it It's awesome. Are you sure because I don't see Alabama anywhere in hey, hey, man. I'm hurt. I'm scolded I think it wasn't the right decision especially with an ACC team that is in a weak conference,

quite frankly. They're in a weak conference. And guess what? Nobody's complaining about the Big 12 runner-up not getting punished. You get punished for losing a weak conference championship game. Yes, you do. When you don't get punished for a Big 10 championship game when it's number one versus number three. You don't get punished for SEC championship game when it's number two versus number five. When you play the eighth team versus the seventeenth team and you lose, you get punished for it.

Nobody's complaining about the big 12 and they second runner up, you know what I mean? So if you play in a weak conference, you gotta win your conference. And if not, you get booted. Hey Rob, I want to make sure we hit this. I see this and you get booted coach. How do you keep a team focused when you, this is really interesting. Cause I actually talked to one of the schools. I won't give the name of the coach, but he called me last night and said, give

me some, um, the wisdom or some experience that you had when you had to keep a team focused, get ready for a game three, four weeks down the road. So I remember in January, in 2006, the first experience I had getting ready for an ass championship game, Lou Holtz was my mentor and we had about a three, four week window, which some of these schools are going to have. And his advice, I never forget as long as they live. And he would said two things. He said, remember the game doesn't start until January.

I think it was January 8th. The foot does not hit the ball. Don't let these players play the game in their minds and never use the words national championship. Never. Focus on moving, getting first downs and stopping people. Cause you're going to hear all that. And that's number one, never use those two words.

Stay focused on what's important to win a game. Number two, the players, and this is really interesting, Mark, and I did this. The players are in a routine right now. The again, it's called game week for 13 weeks. Their bodies and their minds are trained to take a day off Monday, Tuesday, full prior to practice, Wednesday, probably uppers Thursday, run through scripts. Friday off Saturday, you play your game. And he said, keep your players in routine.

I did that exactly. And I told this coach to do that. So make sure you stay in a routine. You start screwing up routines. You know what happens? Players start thinking differently and coaches start thinking differently. So keep your routine. So if I, if I'm going right now, Mark, I'm going, we're going to practice

like it's a game now It's gonna be back way off. Yeah, you gotta get guys healthy But we're gonna keep them that game routine going down and then once you get in the game week, you're still in a routine Yeah, I'm so I just think players especially players. They believe in routine, especially if the routine works Yeah, what's your thoughts on that part? 100% you guys stay routine. We're creatures of habit. So we've been doing this same thing over and over again. We've been successful doing it.

So you want to keep your team in a rhythm and that's by staying on schedule. That's by staying in your routine. And I remember when we had to get ready for national championship, like, I think like the first week or something like coach saving had us like back, like in training camp practice, you know what I mean? Like, so we was getting after it, hitting, thumping. So, but then he backed off on us a little bit but we did have those good on good periods

where we went against each other. And but at the end of the day, like you said, coach you gotta stay in a rhythm, you gotta stay in a routine especially when it's been successful for you. It's interesting. Cause you know, my brain is saying like, let's rest, let's heal. And I know you're incorporating that in coach but maybe not to the extent that I am.

You still got a game to go play. Yeah. And it's weeks away. I got to make sure I clarify that is that it's not always the ones on one. You know, as you get, you got to rest them, but we're still going out there. And maybe it's the twos get most of the reps. It doesn't matter. I'll tell you this. I actually took our guys to a Friday dinner because I wanted, again, the players to stay, they're in a routine. We had Friday pregame meal.

And I just wanted our players to stay in that routine. And a lot of the guys told me that really helped them stay engaged and, you know. I remember Sabre had us working. I remember we was getting after it dog. That's what I remember. Well, because he had national championship on his mind. He wasn't going to tell you that. Yeah.

He wasn't going to say that. We did too. He had it on his brain, man. He had us right. Hey, do you know who's coming up next on the triple option presented by Wendy's? Guess who? Guess who? Who coach?

Okay. I'm not going to say it like you say it. Scataboo. Coach, you got to sell that way better. say it. Scataboo. Oh man, coach, you got to sell that way better. Scataboo. Come on man. I'll tell you what. Whoa, Cam.

Scataboo. I'm a huge fan of that guy, man. Cam Scataboo from Arizona State joins us next on the Triple Option. The Viking, that's right. You'll learn about that next. Like it. Welcome back to the Triple Option presented by Wendy's Urban Mark Robb. And right now we are joined by our college football man crush of the big 12 Arizona State stud running back cam. Say it Mark, because you say it better. Oh, oh, cam, whoa, Cam!

Guess who, Stone? Cam. Scataboo! Scataboo! Scataboo, baby! Guess who? Scataboo! Hey, Cam, real quick, Cam,

have you watched our show and heard Ingram talk about you? If not, we're gonna make you a highlight tape. I mean, this has been going on for a long time, man. It's all of us, man. I remember last about last year was the first time I heard it. And I was like, all right, here we go. But you're you're you're a weekly big noon guy. So congrats. All of our leadings can we staple whatever there is in Arizona.

I like get cams, scataboo in it so we can scream and yell your name. We'd be fine. Who's going to talk Arizona State this week? Right. Why are you going to win? It's because the scataboo is sir. It's funny because it's true. Hey, take us back to that moment in the big 12 championship game where you decided to strike a certain pose that Mark is certainly familiar with. Cam, you know, it's been in the talks about Heisman and everything. And obviously, there's two other contenders that I think are really good. And I deserve the award. But I felt like I've been slept on for a long time. And the fact that

I'm rushing the way I'm rushing and also catching the ball the way I'm catching the ball. I mean, the most utilized back, I guess, in the powerful football. And I'm doing it at the highest level possible. So why should I not be in that conversation, you know? Facts. Over 2,000 scrimmage yards, over 1,500 rushing, over 500 receiving, the man is toting the rock, the man is blocking, the man is breaking tackles, he's coming out the backfield, catching the ball, he's motivating

people in the locker room, straight dog, alpha dog coach. Tell us man, you told us, nobody respects the fact that I'm the best runner back in the country. What made you, what about the doubters kind of fueled you and your team to be Big 12 champs and essentially have a first round buy in the CFP? Yeah, I mean, it just starts with all the countless hours of work we put in the summer. And two, a year ago from now, last summer, we didn't have that same mindset. And we also didn't have the same guys on our team.

And then, you know, a lot of guys stepped up and took the role of understanding what it takes to get to that level. We have guys on the team that have been to playoffs, even in the four man bracket. We have guys that played on the highest teams in the country and they might not have played, but they were there and they seen how you do it and see how the work to what the work to put in takes to get there. And, you know, we stepped up and it's just, it's just been a grind day in and day out since, you know, last spring ball, this last spring ball, you know, we flipped the switch and was like, we got to figure this out because, you know, there's no

last year of college football for most of our seniors. Right. We picked it up this year and we just, you know, I mean we put in the work every week and every day and we just grinded it out and here we are. Hey Cam, you guys kind of flew under the radar this year but not a big noon because of Mark Ingram but your coach, Coach Dillingham and I saw some of the things he said. To me, he seems like a real, you know, he just says what's on his heart. But what did he change? I mean, Arizona State, I've always thought was a sleeping giant,

but they've been really, you know, a non factor. Now they're a major factor. What did he change? And tell me about the culture he brought there is on the state. Yeah, you know, bringing in a guy that's from here, a guy that has coached for a long time, even though he's only 33 years old, he's he has a lot of experience in the game. He's been doing it since he was 16 years old. And the one place he wanted to coach was Arizona State.

And I think I'm not no disrespect to any other coaches that ever been here, but I don't think they had that fuel underneath them like he does the fact that he wants to see his hometown school win and You know Everything with this this with this coach coach doing him. He I mean everything you see is what he is And I think that's what keeps it real between all the players and everybody understands that they could be true to themselves and That they can speak themselves when when the that they could be true to themselves and that they can speak themselves when when the truth needs to be told to other players to keep it real because he keeps it real with all of us. So I think

that's a that plays a big factor in it because he does a good job at keeping it real with everybody. Your dad coached you for a long time Cam and what I love about you besides your running style, is in college as well, you've punted. You've been QB, right? You've kind of been wherever your dad needs you. So how did you end up at Arizona State?

Because I know you began your career. You're from the Sacramento area, and you began your career at Sacramento State. So who was recruiting you back then in high school? Was it William and Mary in Sacramento State in FCS school? Anybody else? Yeah, so I received a text from William and Mary in my sophomore year.

I think they kind of knew they weren't gonna get me at some point, because the coach that was there is now UNLV. And he just sent me a text on Twitter and said, you have an offer from us. Now, didn't really get recruited, just instantly texted that. And, uh, he, he just sent me a text on Twitter and said, you have an offer from us. No, didn't really get recruited. Just instantly texted that I never really thought to respond, you know.

Uh, and then, you know, coach Taylor over at Sac State, uh, he started getting real interested and the running back running back coach at the time was James Montgomery, um, and he, you know, he sat me down and we talked and then I went out to one of their seven on seven camps and I caught the ball. I didn't drop the ball and the coach Taylor like, yeah, I want this kid on my football team. So they offered me right after the camp and you know, I went, I took a visit there and then my senior year I actually got hurt. So I had an AC AC sprain in my shoulder.

My senior year about four games in. And that's kind of when the recruiting stopped. And so me and my pop sat down and was like, yeah, I think it's time to commit to Sac State. You know, we want to make sure we're get somewhere that's paid for. And not, not let nobody get proven wrong. So, um, coach Taylor took that chance on me, even though I know when I was hurt and stuff. So it was cool to be in that situation.

But I wouldn't say anybody else was recruiting me. At the time, there's coaches that would come to the school and UCLA coaches and Hawaii, and they all just looked at me and said I was too small. So I just continued to push. Well, man, you said that you barely got recruited, but now you're one of the best backs in the country. Probably have arguably the best season

of any player in the country. So man, shout out to you for the work, commitment and dedication. But even, so you go to Arizona state from Sacramento state, last year when Coach Dillingham comes in, you were basically the leader of that team still, one of the best backs in the country still, what made you in an era where people are transferring,

leaving, going into portal, what made you stay at Arizona State and continue when I'm sure you had other people reaching out to you and offering you money or whatnot, what they ever they do in this day and age, but what made you stay in Tempe? Yeah, you know, after the season, me and Coach Dillingham sat down

and he told me straight up, he kept it real. He was like, look, you're not a Sunday guy right now. If you think about it, entering the draft, it's not your best decision. He's like, you got more work to put in, you gotta become a better teammate. And you know, he just kept it real from the jump. And I noticed that, that's why I ended up going to ASU

and then sitting down in that meeting and him like, you're not a Sunday guy, but you can put in the work to become a Sunday guy. I think that really hit me, you know, and understanding that going somewhere else, I'm just gonna have to start over again. And I'm not, that's not who I am. Only reason I transferred was because my head coach left.

That's who gave me the shot to be at the SX state. So once he left, I knew like, okay, here's the opportunity to take my talent to the higher level. And committing to ASU, I knew I was going to be here no matter what until I was gone. I made that promise to myself. I made that promise to the coaches when I got here. I mean, I'm going to stick true to that. And, you know, he's, he's testing me every day to keep pushing and work to be a Sunday guy. Hey man, I took a visit out there to Tempe, man, Arizona state.

I mean, I know the campus is lit right now. You know, y'all going to the playoff. I know, I know it's jumping out there in Tempe right now. Yeah, it's been fun for sure. The Valley's being activated. Yes, sir. Hey, Cam, Cam, I got to coach Zeke, J.K. Dobbins and Carlos, some great backs and I would always have them come in

early in the week and I'd flip them a marker and I'd say, all right, man, give me your best runs. So if I'm doing that right now, tell me your three top, what runs do you love? If it's called, you light up. Like, are we talking like, like, like power gap counter whenever? Yeah, you know, I love the power. That's a real bag. That's a real running bag. I grew up in the power. I saw I love power.

So you're down, you're downhill dude, huh? Yeah, 100%. Let me follow that puller. Let me give me the pullers. In the tacos, you got five yards at least. Yeah, but I love the power. That's just what I've known my whole life. You know, lining up eight yards behind the quarterback. Wow.

Getting the rock from the backfield. All right, one, power, two. Number two, I've been learning to be a lot more patient. This last game, if you guys are watching, that counter has been hitting a lot better for me. Just the fact that I've been learning how to be more patient. This last game, as you guys, if you guys are watching, you know, that counter has been hitting a lot better for me. Just the fact that I've been learning how to be more patient. And then number three is just straight inside zone. Man on man. I love it.

Double team to the backer, like figure out where you're going. Guess who? If you set it up. Scataboo! You set it up right, you're going to have a hole. This guy fires me up, Mark. Right. Me too. And I love all three of them runs like that. And by the way, what is a scataboo?

There's not a lot of scataboo's out there. What is a scataboo? Yeah. So scataboo is my last name. My father's name. His family is originated in Norway. So we're Norwegian. Oh, wow. Viking. Yep. Yep. That's I wow. Viking. Yeah, so. Yep, yep. So that's, I got a little Viking tattoo on my arm. Do you? Not many people see it.

So, note to Minnesota. Note to Minnesota. But yeah, you know, they, back in the day they moved to Wisconsin and then, you know, whoever my family, my father's family moved to California. There's not very many us, very many that I know in California, but

there's some family that will reach out here and there from Norway and you know, and I was for you. So I bet a Scataboo family reunion is a lot of fun. Everybody just yelled Scataboo at each other because I would be that's all I'd be doing. I love that last name. Last name in college football. All right. So we found this clip the other day, Cam, we're going to roll it right now and I want you to take us through it and through the course of it, I guarantee you, Mark and Herb are going to be screaming and yelling and your name is probably going to be barged out about five times. So we're going back to high school here in this clip. Break it down for us, Cam. I mean, this shows you right here, the power eye right here. Get off me. Get off me. This just shows, you know, I don't like being tackled. I hate it. It drives me insane. Coach, look at him. Where's he at? Still going. Holy cow.

That is so good. That is so good! That was the first drive of the state championship in high school, my junior year. The first drive? Wow. First drive, yeah. Who were the- That's when I still had all the energy. Who were the running backstates?

And Sac State was your offer? Sac State was- Right? I had 3,500 yards and 42 touchdowns, and I had one and a half offers. All right, I wasn't coaching them, you can't blame me. Wow, someone missed on you, pal. Oof, big time. Who did you emulate? Who did you watch? When you were growing up? Who did you want to kind of be like on the football field?

My older brother, like, yeah, he played it. Bowling Green, right? Correct. He played in Juco for two years. And I always made a joke. You know, you're a Juco kid, you're a Juco kid. Like, it's always a joke between me and him. It'll forever be a joke between me and him. But, you know, you're a Juco kid, you're a Juco kid. Like it's always a joke between me and him. It'll forever be a joke between me and him. But, you know, he's got all the love for me now, but just growing up, I didn't really watch football. We would watch the Niners on Sundays and that's about it. College football wasn't a thing in our family.

We didn't really watch it too often. It was just my dad pushing me every day as a young man, making sure I'm in the right steps. So, you know, watching film, even with him, I was nine years old, we were sitting down, he's screaming at me on the couch while we're watching our little VCR tapes, our little tiny CDs. We plugged those in and watch them. And, you know, just watching my brother play and the players he had on his team, it just made me want to be better. So. the players he had on his team. It just made me want to be better. So how are you guys preparing for either Texas or Clemson

to make sure y'all are sharp and ready to roll when y'all hit the college football playoff here in about, what, three weeks now? What are y'all doing to make sure y'all stay in Lockton and ready to roll? Yeah, I think the biggest thing is Coach Dillingham's emphasis has been to rest up and get healthy. We got some guys with some, you know,

some bruises and bumps here, but that's been the focus for this week is making sure that we can get healthy. And then the next two weeks, you know, obviously we're going to find out who we play, I think in two weeks. And then once we figure that out, I'm sure they're behind the scenes right now, trying to work on both teams, get a base for both of them just to see, you know,

never know who's going to win that game. So it's the playoffs now, so it's different. Texas or Clemson, one of them. So I think I'm pretty sure they're prepared for both at the moment because that staff grinds, you know, they, as soon as that game ends, they're already in the office that night, dealing him. We got home from a trip at 2 AM one time. And, uh, cause dealing him was only on walking towards the office.

I'm like, where are you going? He's like, I'm going to watch film for next week. So they're dialed in for sure. Hey, it's earned. It ain't given. Cam, I'm sitting there looking at you and obviously cause of Mark and just the player you are. So you're going to go, uh, go to the Heism there looking at you and obviously because of Mark and just the player you are. So you're going to go to the Heisman

and then you go to the NFL. And then after the NFL, you sound like a coach. Any thought? Yeah, I never thought. I always told myself I'll never be a coach because I don't ever want to deal with any of these kids. I wouldn't want to deal with myself. But kids. I wouldn't want to go dealt with myself. Um, but it just shows like last night we had our banquet and, you know, being

under coach of Gwano is just shows like the fact that how much you could change a kid's life, he's changed my life. So, um, and also my coach from Sacramento state, he, he changed me from being in high school to being at, to being a, where where I'm at now to then going to a coach of guano and I think I can make that change in people's lives and help them understand the gang also not only being a better person but being a being a good coach as well. Yeah they say the the two most famous jerseys on the campus these days is Tillman and Scataboo. Scataboo. What is it like seeing these? I do too. What is it like seeing all these Scataboo jerseys running around Tempe in the

greater Phoenix area lately? It's awesome because you know I got a little bit of my own little fame here in Tempe. It's cool because you know I never thought this would be like this but the fact that I have that support with you know students that probably don't even watch the games. They just want a jersey because they see a clip on TikTok or something. And it's cool to be in that situation and understand like where I'm at. And, you know, the biggest part is don't mess it up. You know what I mean? And that's the big part. You be TikToking too? Nah, nah, nah. I just stream on Twitch. That, no, no, no. I just stay away from that. That's it.

Okay. Okay. Hey, at what point in a run do you, do you start seeking contact? Immediately? Um, yeah, I mean, as soon as I get, as soon as I understand I'm in the positives of yardage, um, and then obviously if I'm being tackled in the backfield, which I don't like happening at all, I try my best to get back to the line of scrimmage.

But as soon as I get through the line, it's like who's in the way to get to the end zone, you know? Yeah. What's your favorite run that you've had either this season or throughout your career? It could be Sac State, it could be Arizona State, it could be high school. What's your favorite run ever in your career? So I'll go, my number one run is obviously that state championship run. Okay. That kind of put my name on the map a little more than most.

But the USC rail route I caught last year, because you know, we still had a chance to win that game. We thought we were going to win that game. That was one of my favorites. And then this year, that Utah run that I scored on to kind of seal the game was probably one of my top ones as well. So there's three that are really close and the pickings. Real quick, Cam, tell me your leg, I mean the power you have, tell me your bench,

your spot, you know. So right now I'm two shoulders, don't feel too good. So. You're lightin' up a little bit on the squat. Runnin' behind the pads. But is your strength, your legs? The squat's still there, but yeah, I mean, that's what I've been blessed with is my power.

It comes through my whole body. I don't really have a specific thing that overweighs another. My arms are just as strong as my legs. My back is just as strong as my hamstrings. So everything's kinda evened out pretty, I mean, I'm a, I'm a, my biggest lift is Power Clean, you know, 375 on Power Clean is my biggest one. That's heavy.

You play like that. That explosive. That was my best lift too, Power Clean. Not 375 though. The full body, the full body, the full body weights is what I'm... Stone, can you believe we get Mark Ingram talking to Scatterboo? This is like a dream come true. This is legendary. We've been trying to do this since we started this podcast. This might be my favorite one so far.

Mark, you gotta meet this dude. Camp Scatterboo everybody, man. A dream come true for Team Triple Ops. Big noon kickoff. Hey, Cam, best of luck. Congratulations on that four seed in the college football playoffs. Enjoy the down time. Getting better. Getting better. Scatterbull! Big noon kickoff. Hey Cam, best of luck. Congratulations on that four seed in the college football playoffs. Enjoy the downtime, getting better, getting stronger.

Take care of those shoulders and then just keep running over cats, man. Just keep running over humans. We love it, man. Thank you. Thank you, man. Keep doing your thing. Boy, we rooting for you over here, dog. Thank you very much.

It means a lot coming from you guys. The Triple Option presented by Wendy's Returns, Urban Meyer, Mark Ingram, Rob Stone back here, dog. Thank you very much. It means a lot coming from you guys. The triple option presented by Wendy's returns urban Myra Mark Ingram Rob Stone back here with you. So our 12 team field is set. What's next for all those other programs in college football? Yeah, you guessed it the transfer portal as of Monday at midnight Eastern, guys, 522 FPS players already put themselves in the portal. That number is probably going to get close to doubling by Monday,

Tuesday. I'm not because I'm not done. Hold on. If past cycles are any indication. Listen, Mark, last year, 530 entrance in day one of the winter cycle last year, we're already at 522. That's your saucy nug of the week. Try some at your nearest Wendy's. Now I will shut up. What talk about the transfer portal man. It's insane. That is a huge number. You know what's going on right now? Mark, there's teams in the playoff. I talked to two players going in

leaving their walk. Say that again. office. And the coaches tell them again. Start over. Tell them again, coach. Yeah, again. There's players right now walking in with their agent representation and, or that third uncle, and they're walking in. Remember where the third uncle is. That guy has, should be there. Third uncle should not be in that conversation, but he's there. Mark, you know, I'm telling you, you've seen that guy.

Like I know the third uncle. Why is that guy? I know you're wrong. And we know your uncle. My third uncle has, uh, his own personal motives. Yeah. Yes, he does. So he's walking in right now, Mark, and they're

fighting for their lives. And they say, Okay, I'm leaving, or I need this. I need this. I need this. That's going on as we speak. Yeah. They're still playing not in just a bowl game. They are while the team is still alive in the college football playoffs. And you know, in the locker rooms, coaches are having to re recruit their own players their own players. That's going on in Columbus with Ryan Day right now. Yeah, Devin Brown, the backup quarterback, I saw, I don't know if he's staying or not. I think I heard he's staying through, which I don't understand that either, but he's transferring, he's leaving. So that tells you what's the mindset if your starting quarterback breaks a shoestring,

you know, or dislocates a finger and he's got to come out for a few plays. There's a guy that's in process maybe of taking visits, looking at other schools. So it's, as we speak, Mark, I'm going to say it real slow. There's agents and third uncles. You know where the third uncle is, right? Yes. He's the guy that should not be in that conversation,

but he's there. I've dealt with those guys. And they're demanding and asking for this, this, and this, probably playing time and money. And the head coach and the staff was just trying to find a way to get a first down and stop the opponent in the college football playoff. How about this? Why is the transfer portal open right now?

And I understand that there's a lot of programs where their season is, quote unquote, done. It's because the academic calendar calendar. Rob, I understand. But it's awful. It's an the academic calendar, Rob, I asked that question. It's awful. It's an awful time for players like coaches. There's like two transfer portal windows, right?

Yeah, one now and then one in the spring. So it just feels like the timing could be a little bit better. I asked that question, Rob. The reason they're doing now is because classes start in January. And certainly these kids are doing this because they're very worried about their academics, right?

All that Mark handle that one. Hey man. Hey shoot. They just bailing. They jump a ship. Immediately. Yeah, man. If you can leave that fast, you can, you can land on your feet that

fast somewhere else too, right? Yeah. Push that back. You don't get it. And yes, there is certain situations that it does benefit players to hit the portal and leave. Sure, Kyle McCor. Coach, we always talk about it.

How many people are on the other side of it? How many people in the terrestrial portal end up being better from it? Yes, there is special- Cam Scataboo. Cam Scataboo was better because of it, right? But for every Cam Scataboo, every Cam Ward, there is probably 20 more who won't have that type of success. Right. You know, so I don't know the stats.

I don't know the numbers, but we need those, huh coach? We do. And I've asked. We need those numbers. It's just, it doesn't, it doesn't garner much publicity because the Kyle McCorris, Scataboo is the guys that have benefited from it, dominate the headlines. But you're right. There's a lot of people who get hurt.

A lot of people end up without scholarships. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. And then there's programs out there that have just major indecision wrapped around them. Like think about what's going on in Chapel Hill right now, right? Mack Brown is out. There's these conversations still going on with Bill Belichick. The transfer portal is open, right?

So those players in North Carolina are like, I don't know, maybe I do want to stick around for coach Belichick if he takes over in Chapel Hill. Maybe I don't, but I don't know who's coming. And also if you're North Carolina, you definitely need some new cats. Right? So who's the dude? Who's the dude pulling the strings for the portal? What's the rule there? Like, cause if you, if you don't have a coach, they could poach off of your roster, but you can't actively recruit out of the portal at that time. Well, there are no recruiters like that.

There's no recruiters. It's a mess. Until they get hired. Cause that's what happened to Alabama last year. You know, after, after they lost in that semifinal round no coach Saban retired You can they were getting people poached for like however long and then

We couldn't go in the portal get somebody to even like until coach de Borga. I don't know some weird. Yeah, I don't know It's another thing that needs to get sorted. We've got a lot of work in the offseason guys We've got to figure out playoff seating make it guys. We've got to figure out playoff seating, make it better. We've got to figure out the transfer portal. We got, we got some to figure out. But no, we don't. We've got a lot of content to fill coach. We're going to sit here and criticize.

We might be solving these problems. Yeah, we're going to sit here and criticize. I gotta get my handicap down. We're good at asking questions, not so much solving them. All right, time now for pick six brought to you by BetMGM. Place your money line, prep, parlay, and same game parlay bets at BetMGM. Download the app today.

Please gamble responsibly. All right, so we're not gonna have six games to pick this week, but we are gonna talk. No, no, we are gonna talk. College football. You get, the dog gets a week off. We're gonna talk college football championship odds brought to you by BetMGM. Hey, before you do all that, I'm two for two in my last two weeks on the dog of

the week. Oh. Congratulations. I don't want to, you know, what do I know? Somebody needs to recognize it. But I'm two for two. It ain't nobody showing the boy no love. All right.

Sorry about that, Mark. That was coach's job this week. Coach, you failed. South Carolina over-clips it. You failed us, coach. And then George over-Texas. Arra, arra. Your boy's job this week. Coach, you failed. You failed as coach. And then George over Texas. Arr, arrr. Your boy still going crazy.

By the way, Georgia over Texas in Atlanta, that's not an upset in this guy's book. They were the underdog. I know. I know. But Vegas had that wrong. You won money. And send me some tequila.

Back up court. You bet Georgia. If you bet South Carolina and Georgia the past two weeks, you're welcome. My cut. Say you're welcome. I cut. You're welcome, brother. All right.

Again, from Ben MGM, the championship odds. This is as of Monday, your favorites, Oregon plus three 25 followed by Georgia plus three 50 Texas, Ohio state, Penn state. And then things start to drop a little bit Notre Dame plus 1200 Tennessee down at plus 2500 SMU Clemson Arizona State and the no love for our Hoosiers are who who who who? Broncos both at plus five thousand by the way great trip We had to Boise State to see Boise State win the Mountain West Championship game Friday night, chilly conditions and Boise State sitting there as the number three overall seed. So, Coach, you look at this one. I know Oregon is the betting favorite. Are they your favorite as well?

They are. I think they're the fastest team in the country. They look like they lost a little gas in the second half against Penn State, but when they're on all cylinders, they're the best team in the country. I think they're the most balanced team offensively right now, and they're playing at a high level. That's my favorite. My dog, which I'm staring at Ohio State and Texas, you know, that's still two of the best rosters in college football that, uh, maybe time will tell, you know, Ohio State coach Dan, that staff got a rebound from that. Accruciating loss against the Wolf Reigns and then Texas, the way they lost against, uh, Georgia.

So to me, that's going to be, uh, I have Oregon and then I know I got to pick one dog and it's, it's Texas or a State and maybe next week I'll pick one. Mark, who do you see is your favorite? I mean, the first four there are the ones that have the shot Oregon, Georgia, Texas, Ohio State. Those are the ones that those are the ones that have the shot to win it all. And only two of them have buys, by the way, which is

interesting. I'm going to go Georgia. I just feel like Kirby smart, man. I just had this belief in him. I played with him. He was my defensive coordinator when I was at Alabama. Just how he prepares his team for big games, for big moments. They won three of the last four national championships.

No, like they didn't win it last year because Michigan won it, but they won the two before that and they got punished for losing in an SEC championship game, even though they were probably one of the best teams in the country. So I'm gonna go with Georgia, man, even though they we don't know what's going on with Carson Beck. That's a big one. Yeah, but you know, the backup came in and he he did his thing, helped them go to the. How about that hit he took on that man? He ate it. Oh, I thought he blew out knees looking at it. Everything. But man, what a tough dude, right? Get back in and lead him to finish the victory.

So I'm, I just have this belief in Georgia, man, even though they've been struggling all year long, they're in the dance, they get a bi-week and Austin Kirby's gonna have that team ready to play. So I'm gonna go Georgia. And then if you want to go to the right side of the column sheet, SMU, I hope you guys get killed. Clemson. I'm going to go with Tennessee. I'm going to go with Tennessee on the right side.

I'm going to go with Tennessee because they play defense and they run the football. And what does those two things do, coach? They travel. That's it. A run game and a defense, they travel. And so I'm going to go with Tennessee in the right hand. If you want to just throw a smooth 100 on there for 2500. You want to throw 100 on there and make 2500, bet MGM style times the aura, aura. You know, just go ahead.

Just go ahead. I think it's easy to fall into the, it's not even a trap. You know, Oregon clearly has deserved that number one ranking for all of the playoff rankings. The only unbeaten team left. It's, I don't know. I just feel like there's something out there. Like the Ohio State Tennessee survivor is going to give Oregon a hell of a game in the quarterfinals at the Rose Bowl, by the way. Isn't it kind of cool, Coach, that if

Ohio State survives Tennessee, it is proper Rose Bowl type conditions with a Pac-12 team. I know Oregon is in the Big Ten now, but in Oregon, Ohio State feels kind of right in the Rose Bowl as well. If I'm going for an underdog, I like the Tennessee shout out, Mark. How about Penn State? Penn State home to SMU. Are they really underdogs? Well, they are. That's my point. The underdog has to go. We have to go into the four digit range for underdogs. Oh, we do? Shoot. All right.

Then I'm not feeling so good about it. I was all proud of my Penn State pick. No, no. Keep going. Keep going. They get through SMU, then they have Boise State in the quarterfinals. They get to the semis. I don't make the rules, starter. Go with Penn State. It's like the college football play. I don't know if somebody's making the rules. We don't know

who's doing it. So while you're over there, and you're getting that seed. Alright, so but if I have to go big, oh, man, if I have to go big, like, I think, I think Indiana's got a shot to upset Notre Dame. I really do. But we're talking like to really win it all. To win it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm scat-a-boo gonna win it all my friend. How about that? You like that? That's throwing myself out there. Let's go. Scat-a-boo.

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