The Triple Option - Georgia Back on Top, Tennessee Wins QB Trade, Brian Kelly Sounds Off, & Todd McShay Joins

Episode Date: September 17, 2025

Nobody cares about Special Teams, until it loses you a game. Urban Meyer, Mark Ingram II, and Rob Stone dive right into a wild weekend for special teams with Georgia Tech taking down Clemson, Tennessee missing a game winner, and Notre Dame muffing a hold. They then debated if the SEC runs through Athens and if the Vols came out on top of the Nico-Aguilar trade. Mark then named his THREE Dawgs of the Week, bestowing Texas A&M's Marcel Reed, Georgia Tech's Haynes King, and Aggie receiver Mario Craver. We then opened the floor for LSU Head Coach Brian Kelly to Sound Off! after their win over Florida. Rob and Coach then debated if he was on the right or wrong side of that conversation. The Ringer's Todd McShay stopped by and talked about the top Quarterbacks in this year's draft class including Garrett Nussmeier, Cade Klubnik, John Mateer, and more. It was then time for Three and Out, with Urban naming his Top Three Big Ten Quarterbacks, Mark dubbing the three he's most impressed with, and Rob gets you up to speed on the three you need to know. They wrapped with the 2-Minute Drill, picking Illinois-Indiana, Utah-Texas Tech, and Oklahoma-Auburn. New episodes of The Triple Option drop every Wednesday. Make sure you’re subscribed on YouTube and following on all podcast platforms. Also make sure you’re locked in on social @3XOptionShow on all platforms for highlight moments, bonus content, and to engage with the guys and the TO community. (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tripleoptionshow.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠) The Triple Option is presented by Wendy’s. Wake up with Wendy’s breakfast ⁠⁠https://www.wendys.com/breakfast⁠⁠ Thank you to our additional sponsors Zip Recruiter - Try FOR FREE at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://Ziprecruiter.com/Option⁠⁠⁠⁠ FanDuel - Visit ⁠https://Fanduel.com/TripleOption⁠ to download the app and take advantage of a 50% Profit Boost today! #CollegeFootball #Tennessee #Georgia #SEC #JohnMateer #Oklahoma #NotreDame #BigTen #UrbanMeyer #MarkIngramII Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey, the reporter funny, though, he said, I think we just want to know why you can't run the football. Hey, but what's funny is what you said, though, and he came in there and he marked his ground. He peed around that podium. He marked his ground, and then it made everybody else mark their ground. Yeah. You know what I mean?

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guy, like this was a classic example of on any given Saturday stuff happens in college football. All right. So Texas A&M goes to South Bend. They dropped the Irish to O.N2. By the way, Notre Dame is still ranked at O&2. Georgia Tech, a lot of us

called it, walked off Clemson in Atlanta. The Tigers, their second loss on a field goal as Tom expired this season already. Vanderbilt. Mark, remember what Vanderbilt did Alabama last season? Everyone wants to bring that up. I know. I'm sorry.

Well, they took down South Carolina minus Lenora Sellers, by the way. But we are going to dig in with Georgia's come from behind overtime win in Tennessee. I think all of us, except for maybe you coach, were in the air as this one was going on. Tennessee up

21-7 in the first quarter. Eight point lead with six and change in the fourth. Missed a 43-yard field goal with three seconds left. So we go to overtime. And then in the end, Georgia does Georgia of things. Ninth win in a row for the dogs over the valls. Mark, your first big takeaway while we were watching that game, the thoughts that were going through your body as everything

was transpiring, particularly there in the fourth quarter. Well, I thought, for one, Joey Aguilar bawled out for Tennessee. Like, you cannot put this on him. He had this team in position to win the game. They have, at the end of the game, they're probably, you know, a distance that the character should make, right? have a false start penalty, back them up five, the nerves are still going, then we missed a kick. So I thought Joey Aguilar played well, but bigger picture, Georgia, they just stayed in the game. Even when it was looking dark, they just stayed in it. They never gave up.

They ran the football well. Gunner Stockton was efficient. 23 for 31, 304 yards, two touchdowns, no turnovers. Georgia just continues to do Georgia things. Kirby plays. He runs the football. Their defense struggled. You know what I mean?

that didn't look like a Georgia defense, but big picture, they went on the road into a hostile environment against a quarterback who played extremely well, and they found a way to win. That's what Georgia does. That's what Kirby Smart does. He was my defensive coordinator when I was at Alabama, and he still has the recipe. You know, a quick hit on these things. I just wrote this down, Tennessee, Georgia, Notre Dame A&M, and Clemson Jotech, Georgia, had one thing in common that every game came down to that field goal team. They jog on the field and think about that for a minute.

And I used to, I actually got an argument as with coaches along the road because I became a special team's nut job when I was, I became special teams coordinator at Notre Dame. And then you start studying the analytics of how critical, you know, not just everybody says the kicker. I get that, but someone dropped a snap too in the Notre Dame game, you know, and then obviously Georgia Tech hit the bomb for the win. So we used to practice Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and a lot of guys say, why are we doing field goal every day? And I was like, guys, listen now. You know, you work on that once a week and you're going to let the players play 69 and a half minutes. And then you jog that team out there and they screw it up. So, I mean, it's amazing.

And great football, but, man, think about losing a game like that. Coach, they say three things have to go right for you when you kick a field goal. Snap, hold, and a kick. So the more you practice the operation, the more confidence you are in it when you have to go out there and hit the game winner. It's a shame. Notre Dame season came down to a missed extra point, coach. Think about that.

And it wasn't missed. He dropped the ball. Yes, yes, snap. I mean, the whole name's not done. Not done, but they're hurting. They're hurting right now. Those are two quality losses. You got a hope.

Jordan Maiva and USC are. The USC's ranked now. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I don't think Notre Dame season is done, but they're hurting. Let's talk, though, about the SEC. Where does the SEC title run through? Does it still, does it run through Athens right now, Mark Ingram?

Well, they always say you have to beat them, right? So, yeah, you have to beat the champs. So it does run through Georgia. But not through Austin, not through Austin, not through Tuscaloosa? You say Athens. I don't think it runs through Tuscaloosa right now. Tuscaloosa has to go take it. Austin has to take it too.

Are we sleeping on A&M? The one team that I say it does has the most chance to run through with LSU, Baton Rouge. We'll get to Pettin Rouge in a second. That's what I think that it might run through. Coach, you're saying college station, let's give them some votes? Yeah, because that's one of the programs that, to me, has always been an enigma. Why can't you win?

You know, they were very competitive in the Big 12, the Big 8 conference, the Southwest conference, and then the higher-ups make a decision. moved to the SEC, and they've been relatively irrelevant. You know, they have not been the player they should be. Best facilities, incredible budget, great high school football within a three-hour radius, and here you go, a trophy case that's empty. I don't understand that. They got a heck of a coach now, and I saw his fire on his side.

You see him throw the chair? There's a great... The chair. There's a great video of... They got to put that chair in the A&M Hall of Fame, right? Like, somebody's got to have a spot for that chair. That's the energy. You're on the road at Notre Dame.

And I love that. And to see they walk away with the win. So there's, you know, all the excuses of places that can't win, Texas A&M has zero, 0.0.0.000 while you can't win there. And they haven't. A trophy case that's empty. And maybe this coach can do it because that was a big win. I love his fire.

Let's go back to Georgia. Let's go back to Georgia real quick. Gunner Stockton. He was a big talking point on Big Noon kickoff on Saturday, right? And there was all these amazing stats to back up our concern, our worries about Stockton at quarterback for Georgia. Coming into that game, he had just 10 pass attempts of 10 yards or more, right? There was no vertical game, no nothing.

I would argue that to this point, he provided us the pass and the play of the season on that fourth down and hitting that touchdown and that pass where he dropped it in in the situation that he was in. I think it's been, I think it's the player of the year so far. Fair? Dropped it into a bucket. Dropped it. Man, we challenged him and said that their passing game had been non-existent.

Now, we also said on the show that Georgia has been known to be vanilla when they needed to be and show it when they needed to show it. And they showed it when they needed it most. He had a 45-yard pass, 36-yard pass, 31-yard pass. He bawled, man. He had no interceptions. He did have one fumble that he lost, but... He was able to get this team in position to win the game.

They stayed in it. They stayed at it. They didn't give up very characteristic of a Kirby Smart Coach football team. He talked vanilla. Coach, is that real? Like, to what percent is that whole vanilla through the opening couple weeks? Like, I know James Franklin is being vanilla right now in Happy Valley with that three-game preseason schedule he had. Do you go into a season saying, hey, guys, we're going to vanilla it for a couple weeks here?

Yeah, I don't really give the players. is your assistance too much information because I erred there a few times and all of a sudden they start overlooking opponents. But in my own mind, absolutely. You're going to save a curveball or that circle change for the team that, you know, you and the, especially got a guy like Shiano or, you know, Ryan Day, Dan Moll, when I had on my staff as a veteran coach, I'd say, listen, we're going to keep this right. Don't say anything to the players. We're going to keep this little option package or we're going to keep this little package and we are certainly you're not going to show it.

But absolutely that happens. But you better be running in practice to get it ready. You don't want to just first time you roll it out is against the big dogs. So we gave Gunner Stockton his flowers, deservedly so. Joey Aguilar, we brought it up. Wow. And what he did in a loss.

You're right. The story is crazy. Unbelievable. Appalachian State transfers to UCLA. Nico I leaves Tennessee. And Nico drops in Westwood. You're forgetting one thing before Appie State. He quit football.

He was a firefighter for a year. Wow. Think about that part. Wow. He went to a junior college, went to Abstead. This is, I looked it up, and it was, it's not getting enough publicity. Non-recruited, junior college, Appstate, UCLA, that UCLA makes the worst trade in the history is the trades. And Tennessee lands this guy that must be, I don't know this guy, but he must be a monster.

first guy, Rob. When Nico left, I said D-U-N-D-U-N-done. It's over in Knoxville. How do you lose a quarterback with that talent? D-U-N-D-U-N-D-Rone. That kid played his ass. I know they lost, but he played his ass off, man. He did. It wasn't because of him. He did have two interceptions, but he had him in position to win the game. Hey, the folks in Orange are feeling good about their quarterback right now, right? They're like, we won that trade. Not, not won the trade. We fleeced UCLA in the trade. Is that the first trade and worst trade?

First and worst. It's the first trade in college football history and possibly the worst trade in college football history. Nico goes to UCLA. How's that going? How's that going, Nico? He doesn't have a coach. And no wins.

Fired their coach. No coach. No wins. I said when he left last year, that's going to be an idea. It actually breaks your heart. The guy's a young player that's just talented. He's going to be one of those moments. And I hope it all works out because all that, that's, I understand he's a great kid too,

that why did I do that? Cautionary tale, right? We need to have a little reading here. At some point now you just got to improve, but at some point you're going to say, hey, tell me again now, why did I do that? Somebody was in his ear. I don't know who. Chasing the almighty buck.

Chasing the almighty buck, it's going to bite you. It's going to bite you sometimes. It was somebody in the kid's ear, man. I'm not blaming the kid. For sure. So part of that conversation on Sunday, UCLA, They parted ways with their former star player, their head coach, Deshaun Foster, went five and ten. This was his second season.

You kind of knew that was coming. Virginia Tech as well. Brent Pry, awful home loss to Old Dominion. He went 16 and 24 over four seasons. Last week on the Triple Option coach, we were talking about these big payouts to these head coaches that maybe that will diminish these mid-season firings for head coaches. What happened with Coach Foster and Coach Pry a little bit different is, in the sense that the buyouts were more manageable, right, in the $6 million range. Again, if you want big numbers, if the folks in Alabama want rid of Kailen DeBoer,

you also have to get rid of $63 million. Billy Napier buyout, you know, in the 19 and change. So this was a different type of movement. But, man, week three, I mean, obviously it's part of what these ADs and the school presidents and the boosters saw through the opening three weeks. But it definitely goes back. But if you're UCLA, if you're Virginia Tech, two, proud programs, right?

Two programs that resonated at one time in the college football world, it feels like they need a reboot. They need to reassess things. They almost need to go like the Dion route, like the way Colorado rebooted their program, bringing in a guy like Dion who can immediately infuse things. Listen, if Michael Vick is doing things at his new gig, and it's probably not fair to put this pressure on Michael Vick,

but to have a Virginia Tech legend like that come back to Blacksburg. Wow. Stoner, you're going right across the bow. I'm just saying. So Michael Vick, Votech, is that what we're saying? I'm not saying that. I'm just saying he will absolutely be on a list. I don't know how deep that list.

I don't know how high, medium, or low he is, but you have to think about is Michael Vick the right type of guy. Maybe he isn't, and you move on from him quickly. But Vot Tech, man, and or Sandman playing, you know, that is one of the best environments in college football. They deserve better. Virginia Tech was always one of them teams that was up there with a chance to win.

You know what I mean? One of them teams, for sure. There was always one of them ones. Let's go back to the conversation because I want to make sure there's clarity there that the conversation was that the ridiculous buy, you know, when someone said, well, I thought you guys said people aren't going to get fired. That was not what was said at all. It's just the monstrous buyouts.

And this comes from, I actually spoke to two assistant ADs, one last week and one over the weekend. And the comment was the same. We have no money. So the things, when you start saying, seeing the excess revenue that materialized probably, what, 15 years ago in college sports, where did it go? Coaches, salaries, and facilities.

I'm wondering if you're going to see the buyouts disappear or they just won't fire guys. And I think the day of the $37 million locker room is over, Mark. From what I'm hearing, there's no money. Remember that Wolverines came out publicly, and I think they said a close to 30, They're going to operate with a $30 million deficit going into this. That was before the fines and everything else. So I think it's going to be really interesting to watch what happens this year with the big buyouts and I think just for the future facilities because the money is going probably rightfully

where it should go to the people performing on the field. It's a developing situation, as we like to say on the side of the camera, right? Developing. And keep an eye on the buyouts and the locker rooms and the facilities and the NIL deals. Listen, those veins, those donors, money veins are getting tapped. And at some point, they're like, I cannot extract any more blood. I cannot extract any more dollar bills for you. I am out of money.

I want this handbag. Look at these Louis Vuitton shoes. I am out of money. We do not have that. I have Nathan. We do not have that. Remember Florida, Florida built that brand new facility with a big pool and then clems in with a big slot, you know, you have all these facilities in the spaceship

locker rooms and, and all of a sudden. Keeping up with the Joneses, man. It's a dangerous game. I think that's D-U-N-D-U-N-D-N-D-D-D-D-D-D-U-D-D-U-D-U-D-A-W-D-O-D-D-O-D-D-O-D-O-W-E. I kind of like that. It hits exactly where it needs to hit home. Dun-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-U-W-W-W-W-E. Dog of the week.

Oh, no, that's not how you spell. They should just re-spell the word. Dog, D-A-H-R-R-R-R-W-G-R, and I got some dogs for you, too, Stoner. There were a lot of dogs running around the kennel this week. It's my segment. Go, baby. And it ain't no dog this week. It's dogs.

And I'm going to start with A&M, with the game winner. Marcel Reed went crazy. 360 yards passing, two touchdowns, another 37 on the ground. Game winning throw, 13 seconds left in the game. Then another dog, all right, all right. His receiver, Mario Craver, seven catches, 207 yards, coach, two tuddies. Ah, all right, all right. Then I'm going to Georgia Tech when a man himself carried the yellow jackets to a dub.

Haines King, Ceno Handily carried Georgia Tech to a dub. They, they, they, they need to get him a chiropractor right now because his back is hurting. 211 yards passing, 103 yards rushing two touchdowns. All right, hour, that's three dogs in a week, because they all some dogs. Dogs. All right, all right. Mark, over delivering dogs. Well done.

Do you lift yet today? Do you train yet? Real vascular. Yeah. Vascular cat. There was some energy behind that one. I was good. Yeah, I had my pre-workout, and I'm going after this.

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I think coach and I might have a standoff on this one. This is going to be interesting. It is time for sound off. So after LSU, one at home, over Florida. Florida by 10. The first question of his postgame press conference did not reach Brian Kelly in the proper fashion. Again, Coach Kelly came out. He made, he talked. We're going to talk about that in a second. And then he opened the floor to questions. Here's question number one and here's response number one. Brian in the back. I know you, you love these immediate postgame sessions, but what are you seeing with your offense? Stop. Really? Is that the first question? We won the game 20 to 10.

Try another question. What do you want me to tell you? I just laid it out for you. We played the game to win the game. We played the game to win the game. All right. How about third down then? What is going on with third down?

It's one game. Last game, we were great on third down. You're micro, you're looking at this from the wrong perspective. LSU won the football game. won the game. I don't know what you want for me. What do you want? You want us to win 70 to nothing against Florida to keep you happy?

No, I think people want to know why you can't run the ball, quite honestly. We can run the ball. Did you see the last play of the game? That's all you need. You just need one. There's some ridiculous questions. And I'm getting tired of it. That football team just worked their tail off to get an SEC win, and you want to know what's wrong.

You know what? you're spoiled you're spoiled this team is 17 and 1 at night 17 and 1 give them some respect how about that give them some respect instead of micro analyzing every little thing this is ridiculous for a group of of seasoned reporters that kind of question is so out of line hey hey coach getting to them down there bad ruse ain't it I love it. He hears the noise. He hear the noise.

I love it. He hear the noise. All right, coach, your immediate reaction to that. And you are speaking from, you know, from the coach's fraternity perspective. Oh, yeah. And I mean, I kind of snapped a few times, but he's saying what every coach probably wants to say. And then everybody's got to listen to context. He'll be much different today in the press conference.

That was 15 minutes ago from walking out of locker room where a guy, guys, you know, he's got a group of players that he spends more time with in his own family that just found a way to go win a big-time ball game. And, you know, you get peppered right away. So, yeah, I love it. Was that a bad question? I don't know that. But it's like there's no, sometimes you look and you're like, are you kidding me? But you just got to take it. And I think it's great. And if anybody wants to do the side of Brian Kelly. Like water, like when you respond like that, clearly something's getting to you. You're hearing something

and it's getting to you, and he just he just, he couldn't take it no more. He despised on buddy. How about this? I love it, though. You know what? Once again, Mark understands it. He's done enough for his players, man.

I think you understand it to a degree, Mark, or Rob, because you played sports and you just walked out of a locker room. I bet six minutes before that conversation, he just sang the fights on with his players, had a good talk, hugged his guys up, guys are hurting, guys are probably, you know, guys injured in there, and then they start, and you know what, give them a little grace and have at it. Coach Kelly, I thought that was

great, stick up for him and move on. He'll be a much different tone once you decompress after a couple of days. Yeah, I didn't see it as sticking up for his team. I saw it more as I'm coming after you. Let me start with a quick quiz here, right? And I'm going to throw this at Mark. Mark, Brian Kelly, how many SEC titles has he won in his three years in Baton Rouge? Nathan. That would be nothing. How many playoff appearances does he have down there? Nathan.

How much money is he making to start spouting off at reports about things like that? A whole lot. A whole lot of stuff. I see you, Rob. Yeah, I know. I get kind of, I got agitated, but I also, listen, I've never met Coach Kelly. I'm respectful for what he's done. I went back prior to that soundbite, and coach came in and he addressed the media.

And this is what he said. And my point being, he came into that media session ready to fight, right? He said, we did whatever it was necessary to win the game. We were trying to win the game. Totally get it. But he's already trying to put people in this perspective of like, hey, I know this wasn't great, but this is why we were doing it. I respect it. I get it. Playing to our defense. Sorry that doesn't sound appealing to you, folks,

but I don't really care. And then he opens it up to questions. Okay. All right. So clearly to me, as a bystander, he came in with an agenda, right? And he knew, I think, also, what was coming his way, because he's probably a little agitated at his offense as well. Right? And he's saying, hey, my defense was amazing. Got this huge SEC win. Love it. I agree with it. But he knew questions were coming about his offense, right? By the way, am I supposed to come in with brownies and sprinkle cupcakes and just sit there and laud applaud it on you and congratulate? Should we all stand up and applaud?

Brian Kelly has come into the room because he won an SEC game over Florida. Our job on the media is to what? Ask questions. He knows that. He knows that coming in. And for him to go after and belittle these people. And listen, maybe there's a history. with that reporter, right? And you're right, Coach. There are reporters out there

who find those thorns and like to dig in, and I get it. But if you're being paid that much money, sit there, take the question, answer it, and move on. I felt he was ducking the question, right? I felt like Coach Kelly, if he had his way at that moment, it would have been an index card of, hey, everybody, I'm handing out cards. These are questions you can ask. hey, hey, the reporter funny, though. He said, I think we just want to know why you can't run the football. So that takes me to another part. So here, here's another context, another context because I would,

I'm loving this, by the way. My intro was always this. Hey, guys, thanks for coming. I'll take some questions. There you go. That was including Big Ten Media Days. Some guys go up there for an hour and a half and start babbling. Yeah.

I would say, I'll take a couple questions. and I'm kind of, I would always count backwards by 10 if I saw some clown out there that I knew was trying to stir something up. But, yeah, I mean, we're making a big deal out of something. The guy, once again, I guess I'm always... It's Monday. It's overreaction Monday, coach. This is what we do, man.

This is what we do. Hey, but what's funny is what you says, though, he came in there and he marked his ground. He marked his ground. Yeah, he peed around that podium. He marked his ground, and then it made everybody else Mark Dayground. Yeah.

You know what I mean? So, yeah, you want to know what you didn't do on third down, but we want to know why you can't run the football. Did you see the last play? That's all you need. It's amazing to me the dynamics. And again, coach, you're at the podium. Mark, you're at the podium.

I've been the guy who's been on the other side of the podium, staring at people that you really respect and have a lot of power. And I've been in those rooms where you know you need to get to these questions, you need to ask about the offense. You need to ask about the running game. Right. You have to get there. But you don't, you want to read the room and you don't want to start with it. Right. Right. So I guarantee you that that collection of human beings in there, whether that was student reporters, you know, local affiliates, whoever it was, was waiting for somebody to ask the first question because everybody else was hands on my seat.

Like, I'm not going there. I'm not doing it. I'm going to get them. I'm going to ask that it may be two or three, but you want to read the room, right? So maybe you could take one for the team, which is what I would do sometimes. Like, let me just throw up a little softball. Let me make sure coach is good here, right? Let's do this. Now we can start hitting things. I remember when I was in Tampa Bay, I was a young buck reporter, guys.

And I knew there were dudes in the locker room I could go to win or lose to get great sound bites and get proper intelligent conversation. there were other dudes that legitimately scared me, but I knew I had to go talk to them. Warren Sapp was a dude who legitimately scared me. You're laughing already because you know, Mark. And there would be this collection of humans that were like me surrounding a changing Warren Sapp, like an awful situation, right?

The poor guy is out of the shower. He's in a surly mood. He's got probably a little packet in between his cheek and gums, right? And he's in no mood to talk to anybody. And I get it. But it's my job to talk to Warren. because he's a big star and he was a big part of this game and all of us would be assembled around war and sap and no one would say a thing and i would look at these people and i'm like you people

are chicken shit you are you are scared i'm scared i am damn rob's all over this one man i am i i was petrified to talk to him but i'm like this is my job this is what i have i have elected to do as a as a as a profession and i want to move up the food chain so i'm going to take that bullet and i'm to put that microphone out, and I'm going to ask Warren Sapp about that third downplay or whatever it was. Why so scared? It's not like he's going to turn around and whip your ass. Oh, man, you should have seen some of these responses.

Listen, you're up here. You're like, Mr. Sapp, you know, or whatever it is, and you know he's coming with heat, right? Like, he is bringing the heat at you. He is in attack mode, but you got to do it. You got to take it for the team. So it's a really interesting dance, I think, coach. I think you see things differently now that you've been on our side a little bit, but it's tough.

You want to be respectful for everybody and you want to ask appropriate questions and do your job, but sometimes it's ugly. Everybody wants the inside scoop on what it's like to be a football player and be a football team. Well, when you get it, then you get offended because it's a high energy, high emotional gig, and it's not for everybody. No, it's not. Hey, guess what? The other side is pretty high energy, high stress as well, and it's not for everybody. All right, that was our fresh take of the week presented by Wendy's. Don't have.

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Subtle, maybe unsubtle. Light it. Welcome back to the Triple Option presented by Wendy's every month. That's right. Every month we have secured that man. Todd McShave, the ringer, to talk about some of the top NFL draft prospects in college football with us. We had a great week three in college football. There's a lot to dissect.

Coach, let's go to the position that matters the most. I've never seen a spider helmet I have now. I see it. It's been there forever. Yeah, so it's kind of a tough week to be flaunting the spider helmet after the heels after the fighting Belichick's put it on us. But, uh, but yeah, I'm proud, proud of all that. The spider looks kind of hard on the helmet, though.

It's pretty good, right? A little rackophobia. All right, brother McShay, let's go here. So I got your quarterback's top five. You had Nussmeyer, Sellers, Clubnik, Mendoza, and Meteer. And there's some up and downs there. I'm going to ask you to do your stock up, stock down. But I'm also going to throw a couple.

names in there. What in the world is going on with Arch? I was reading today. I haven't watched. I'm going to watch them today. You got Arch. You got my gosh, Nico. I thought it last year was as talented the quarterback as I've seen. And then, you know, Nuss is winning games, but he's not putting up the numbers. So give us a little stock up, stock down on your quarterbacks. You know, Irvin, coming into the year, remember last year, like the quarterback class was not great, coming off of that 2024 group where we had a record setting six quarterbacks drafted in the first. 12 picks, Bo Nix being the 6-1. And then last year we had, you know, it was the Cam Ward Chador debate.

We all saw how that played out in the end with Jackson Dart being the second quarterback taken and Shador falls to the fifth round. This year, talking to scouts around the league and putting together the preseason list and watching tape, I was like, oh, we get a chance to have a special group, right? Because they're like those names, right? Arch was never going to be in the 2026 class. I mean, talking to people who were close to that situation, if he came out and had a brilliant year and if the bubble in Austin became just too small,

maybe he would have considered it. But the plan was always 2027, right? And that's the same plan for Eli and for Peyton before him. So I think we all now, after three weeks, can kind of move on from that discussion and hopefully he can turn things around and he'll be in contention to be the number one pick in 2027. But we've seen some of these really talented quarterbacks, coach, like they're not playing to the level. Now, we've had Carson Beck play really well at Miami. Mendoza hasn't played anyone for Indiana, but so far that looks really, really good in that offensive system.

We've seen Sawyer Robertson from Baylor, has been firing. He's a really talented player who I think has been under the radar for a while. Aiden Childs at Michigan State, nobody really knows about this guy. But super talented, right? And John Mateer. John Mateer is a blast to watch. And it's going to be fun to see kind of what NFL teams are thinking about him. But if he continues to play at this level and can cut out a couple of the mistakes,

he's got a chance to kind of continue to push up the rankings. But Arch hasn't played well. We can get to that in a second. Clubnik has struggled at Clemson, right? You talked about Nuss Meyer. They're doing what your thoughts on Nuss. What's your thoughts on? I love Nuss.

Yeah. I'm bullish on us because I think mentally he understands the game is like you might have to go back to Andrew Luck to see some of the pre-snap stuff and and the motions and setting protections and kind of working that angle I think you know the suddenness in the pocket the accuracy the throwing with anticipation everything that you look for when evaluating a quarterback he has but he's not the the level of mobility that we've come to see with a lot of top guys you know he does move around well but it's not josh allen lamar jackson you know jalen hurts he's not one of those next like great i i don't even like using dual threat quarterback but but mobile dangerous weapons with his with his legs so i think there's a physical traits sealing to him that you would like you'd like it to be a little bit higher but i just trust him him. And I hope the season continues to get better and they kind of figure some things out offensively. They get four new starting offensive linemen, some new faces in terms of his

weapons. But hopefully he continues to to improve as the season progress. I thought he actually played really well against Clemson, didn't think it was the case against Florida. Klubnik has not played to the level. I was hoping he was going to take another step. What are you seeing? What's missing with Klebner? That's an enigma. What the heck's going on there? he's not playing loose i i see a quarterback who comes into games and is like a little too amped up pressure the pressure has been on him both tangible right like pass rush pressure and it just i don't know you've watched clemson now two bigger games do they look like a team that's playing free loose easy like go out there and do our thing like i was saying the other day it looks like they're

like pushing a crater uphill every drive it's like the pressure of the world is on them and the offensive line's not playing to the level they've had an injury they've kind of been you know seven guys kind of playing in and out they're they're running back randals really talented as a runner can't pass protect and so they're working through some stuff and then they lose their number one target in the first quarter that game against lSU uh and Antonio williams and it just it seems like clubnick has not gotten into his rhythm and he's not like you think back to that Pittsburgh game right last year right where he takes off and runs he has a game winning touchdown but throughout that game like he was carrying right now it

it feels like he's playing tense and arch watching his tape and i'll be interested to see what you have to say about him after you go back and really study it when he actually gets his feet set and throws the ball and delivers he's been really good but that's like one out of every three or four attempts that he's doing that i just think he's gotten so used to like you know is is bodies parallel to the line of scrimmage and just kind of like flicking and on the run he's for a guy who's in the manning family and has had all the coaching that he's had and has brought in like college coordinators to coach him in high school and been around eli and Peyton I'm surprised that his footwork you know what you always hear that marrying your eyes to your

feet and that's all about like are you going through progressions let's say left to right your feet better come with you or else when you're ready to pull the trigger if you're if you're like this instead of like this. Let me ask you, let's hold that thought because this is really intriguing. As Patrick Mahomes hurt that because he is such a arm slot, you know, throw off balance. And when I was a young quarterback coach and young head coach, you'd never let your guy do that. No. It was very disciplined.

Your eyes are married to your feet. Mahomes messed everything up, coach. The homes, like he did. But every quarterback now is trying to be Mahomes. I know. I mean, it's, it's, it's everywhere. From Dominic Riola to everybody else. So you said it, not me, my home screwed it up.

Is that what you said? He messed it all up because I remember watching Mahomes being like, this, this ain't going to work. You know, like you can't have this horrible footwork. And I was so obsessed like you were as a young coach with like ball carriage, feet underneath you, feet married to your eyes, balance, balance, balance, strong base to throw, you know, hip rotation, all that stuff. And then Mahomes comes in.

And I got too caught up in the process of the delivery and not in the result. And I know Nick Saban and coaches like you and everyone, it's all about the process. Well, he was like, he was this rare cat where the result, you better watch the result because the process like is different. And John Mateer is the same way. You guys, I don't know if you're into golf at all. Scotty Sheffler is the perfect example. for anyone who's into golf he i remember early in his career he was his footwork is a mess different than everyone else's and when he wasn't the number one player in the world it was like yeah

if he could just get his feet right and he's you know that front foot opens and he's kind of up but the result is so perfect but if you if everybody else tried to swing like sheffler it probably would be a disaster right and so mater is is a lot more like mahomes and he's got these full back legs, he generates torque, and he's happier. He's in his happy place when, like, he's off, even when he has all the pocket around him and the play is perfectly lined up and his first reads there, he doesn't like throwing on balance and all the things that you used to coach and all the good quarterback coaches teach.

And so they're, you know, their exceptions to the rule. But I think your point is exactly right. I think too many young quarterbacks think they can be the exception of the rule when really like the rule works for the vast majority. Just like Steph Curry did in the NBA. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that was great.

I'm going to call it Shea Day. Shade Day. I love when we got you on, man, Shade Day. But no, earlier we talked about the Nico for Joey Aguilar trade. Is it the first trade in college football history? Is it the worst trade in college football history? that we've been discussing it, but we've seen how the results played on the field. How do you see that NFL teams are approaching these guys who are transferring to chase money

or at different, different schools, three, four different schools? How do you feel like the NFL's looking at you and these guys? They're kind of over it, right? Like, I think at first it was a thing, but now that it's just, it's become the norm in college football, you've got to kind of sift through it. There are individuals that are chasing the money, and there are players that have tags on them. And a lot of it comes from the family pressure

and what's in their life and kind of the supporting cast. And you're always as a scout. I spend more time now talking to scouts about players, character, their upbringing, who's in their life. The guys, the folks that they're hanging around with, is it a girlfriend who's a cancer? Is it a parent that is, is, sucking off the teat, if you will.

You know, like, I spend more time talking to scouts about that than I do like, you know, he's great in and out of his breaks. Or do you see the hand placement or like the way you get. That started to me about 10 years ago. I mean, it was crazy how every conversation I would have as a head coach was that. I was like, you know, aren't you going to ask about the in and out of cut, like you said, and it's all the other stuff. You get ready to pay somebody millions.

You've got to make sure they're the right person. I think it's access now, right? Like, we live in a different world with access, whether it's tape. There used to be like some grisly 30-year scout would be on the road. And he'd like, we called it like, you know, finding a diamond in the rough. And if like he would get a couple more tapes of this player from like a directional school, right? And all of a sudden you draft a player that no one heard their name in the fifth rep. It just doesn't happen anymore.

Like literally the games are over three hours later. I can access any single player, not only the game for that offense or defense and the coach copy cut up on this XO's catapult system with the PFF ultimate, but I also can just go and look at the 12 or 16 or 22 key plays from that game. Or I can look at like routes run from 10 to 20 yards. So the access and then the access of analytics and all the other information that's out there, there's no like unearthing a players now and everyone knows the same thing about their football like their tape what they put on tape what's different is now like all right it's easier to stack a board talent wise but figuring out who the guys that absolutely love ball schottenheimer once

marty schottinheimer i worked with him for one year at ESPN he had the best line that i'll never forget the hardest part of evaluating a player getting ready for the draft top is you better figure out because it's one of the hardest things that I like I that we as evaluators have what is this human being going to do with more money more fame and more free time he's ever had before right so I think that's that's why we are where we are with with scouting in the NFL but like we've seen we've seen like you know jane daniels he you know had his kind of transfer you know kind of worked that well even with cam ward I'm wondering like that it must be like the character as a because I'm like with the Nico thing and all these different players,

like even in the draft, you see sometimes there's three different, four different highlights from a team. Like how are these, I'm just, I'm just interested to see how to you. Mark, I think here's the question you have to ask yourself.

It's the why. Yeah. You know what I mean? Why did he transfer? Right. Is he chasing the money? Did he not want to compete? Those are the two things.

Is this a guy that's just, he's a mercenary? You know, is he chasing the money? Right. Does he not have a commitment? to team and being a part and and and the and was he faced with a difficult training camp a fall camp battle that he just didn't want to be involved in and find it's the easier route

to go somewhere else or is he an aguilar right who was doing that hour and a half commute from from home to to up in san francisco to community college and being there from leaving at 4.30 in the morning, coming back at 10 at night, just to get a chance to be, to have an opportunity. And now he gets this awesome opportunity at UCLA. It's ripped from them. And Tennessee's like, why don't you come here? And so like that, those kind of stories are bonuses. Right. Whereas the Nico thing is just the opposite, right? Right. Right. Thank you for sharing that. Appreciate it. Todd, coming up, coach is going to talk about the stable of quarterbacks in the big 10 and how deep and loaded it is this year. I agree.

I would also argue that the Big 12 is sneaky good at the quarterback spot. Who are some of the big names from the Big 12 that jump out at you? I'm a big backer of Sawyer Robertson from Baylor. And I know they lost their first game. That's a good Auburn team. I'm not saying it's great, but that's a good Auburn football team. And they can't play defense. But offensively, you just look at he's 6'4, 220, moves around well,

throws off platform well. He's not perfect, but there's a lot to work with there. And the way he's slinging the ball and keeping his team in games coming from behind, the amount of hits he's taken, that Auburn game, and then most recently a couple weeks ago, he's finding ways to keep his team competitive, even though everything seems to be working against him. I love guys like that. You know, Avery Johnson hasn't quite played to the level.

Sam Levitt, super talented. Kind of got a little bit more on track this past week. Jordan Tyson, his wide receiver, had a monster game. I'm interested to see the improvement as the season progresses, but saw some kind of flaws in the ointment early on. Rocco Beck has played well. You know, I think he's got talent. He continues to progress, cutting down on some of the mistakes.

So I'm sure I'm missing some. How about Hoover? Hoover at TCU. Oh, Hoover. How fun is he to watch? Hoover's fun, man. I saw him live Saturday. that dude can play now.

He may not have the height that a lot of people want. I think that might scare people off, but that dude is accurate and gets it. He rips it. Hey, back to this quarterback. Oh, you're blowing off Hoover. Hold on, Coach. No, no, I want to get the frogs in love.

So I was talking to Matt Liner and Brady Quinn. And I was watching the Bryce Underwood, who, by the way, I know I'm a buck guy and I'm getting killed because I think this, he might be the most talented quarterback I've seen in a while. But he's something, man. you notice all the quarterbacks delivery because of the whole that they teach the it's a completely different mindset when you look at brady quinn matt liner the quarterbacks i've coached it was always you're trying to get over the top tom brady like like yeah all the way up everyone here is they're here now

and it's an amazing my son's out there throwing and i'm and it's driving me nuts i'm like but you get your elbow up and then i bring him to see like a really good quarterback coach he's 10 by the way so and I love you, Tate, but you're my son. So, like, there, there is a ceiling on this whole thing. But, but, like, working with, and they're, they don't care about it. It's, it's all about hip rotation and, like, ball out, coming around. And torque. Yeah.

And it works and guys are slinging. I went to that Manning Passing Academy, Urban. Yeah. And I'm, I'm just pulling in for the, it's the first time I'd ever been, pulling in. And you've got, like, hundreds. I think there are 1,200 quarterbacks there for, seventh grade on up and so like nussmeyer and sellers and clubnick and all those guys are the counselors and and during the day they have throwing things at night it's like Friday night lights

if you've never been you got to you got to check it out it's like the purest thing still left in this game right wow but watching all these quarterbacks and I walk in the stadium and there's like 1,200 of these robots yeah that all are they've got those medicine balls and they're all doing this with shoulders. And then they get the ball. And then they get the ball out and they're all the same mechanics. But the ball is like, you can hear it from like seventh, eighth graders. Like the quarterback position is such, it's at such a higher level than it was.

And I'm talking like globally than it ever has been before. It's fascinating to watch. The Todd McShay Show on YouTube, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast, you can find them all the time. Todd, as always, thanks for joining us. and we will have you monthly, monthly throughout the season. We love it more. We love it more. Todd, thank you.

Thanks, guys. Appreciate it, Todd. Welcome back to the Triple Option presented by Wendy's Rob Mark Urban back here with you. Time to go three and out this week. We're going to pick three quarterbacks that we feel have played the best, but we've got some different categories. And by the way, can we go back to the beginning in the season here, guys, and the quarterbacks that we were talking about, like Heismans, you know, Arch and Nussmeyer

and Cade Clubnick. Nico. Nico. Lenora Sellers. We had this plethora of what we thought, and the viewers out there thought were top-tier quarterbacks, and so many of them have not hit the mark yet. Again, we've only played three weeks. Let's start with Coach.

And the Big Ten, by the way, absolutely loaded at the QB spot. Yeah, historically, that's not been the case. I remember I first got to the Big Ten, we felt like if we stopped the run, we'd win. There were not enough good quarterbacks and receivers. in the Big Ten to compete. And that was true. It's a completely different animal now. And I think Ohio State's kind of led to charge

in the last six, seven years with first rounders at quarterback, first rounders at receiver. But everyone else is following suit. And so Jerry DeNardo and I, a Big Ten network. We actually went through the Big Ten quarterbacks, Mark. They're all over the place.

And I'm going to, I got three guys that I think are, you know what, it's amazing when I complimented Bryce Underwood, Mark, my phone blew up. People are saying, what the hell is wrong with you? You're complimenting a Wolverine. I said, I used to compliment them all the time. You don't have to like them, but you better show respect. I'm telling you, that guy, talent for talent,

he might be as good as I've seen in a while. He can run. And you know what? They added in something in the, I think it was the second quarter, 12 minutes left in the second quarter, a Q run. And the whole world just took notice because you start adding that into that offense. He's going to be a tough one. Bryce Underwood.

I know he's started slow against Oklahoma, but he's going to be a monster. Is he your top quarterback in the Big Ten? No, no, no. I'm giving you three names. Okay. Dante Moore is the best quarterback right now in the Big Ten. Oh, really? Yeah, he's playing tremendous, 78%.

Seven touchdowns, one pick. Another guy, DeMont Williams, 69% completion rate, two touchdowns. And I'm giving Julian Sayan, an honorable mention. You can't, when you're beating teams, you should beat by 40 points. I don't, that doesn't mean anything. And then the first game against Texas, he did what he was supposed to do. He's got eight touchdowns, three picks, and 80% completion rate. But I'm a, I know I'm just pumping this Big Ten up.

Eight in Chiles and Michigan State. Wait do we see, I don't know if you guys seen him yet. I have. He's a dude. He's a dude. He's a dude, dude. You have, Jaden Maiava at USC. And then the one guy we're not even talking about,

which we're going to be too bit determined is Drew Eller. So the, the Big Ten's loaded. By the way, you didn't mention Nico. I had him down here, but I'll mention him at some point. He's down there. Still talent, man. Yes, I hope he rebounds, and I hope he can figure things out in Westwood. All right, so those are the top quarterbacks in the Big Ten.

Mark, your take, are you just going like the best three dudes at quarterback we've seen this season? Yeah, I'm going to just go, you know, three guys who I've been impressed with. You know, the three guys who have impressed me the most so far this season. I'm going to go number one, Carson Beck. Last year, Georgia, everyone was against him, kind of had the injury, kind of, you know what I mean? And we didn't know what we would see from Carson Beck. And he's been straight bawling this year for the Hurricanes, 812 yards, seven touchdowns, 79.3 completion percentage, 82% versus USF last week, Stoner. That's a big number.

He's had a veteran presence for this Hurricanes team. he's playing efficient winning football and he is just brought his best down to South Florida. I got to admit, I wasn't a believer in Beck coming into the season. There was just something about him that I didn't fully trust, but a really impressive win Saturday. And it's, you know, that completion percentage mark,

it's not like he's only thrown it 12 times a game. Right. I mean, they're throwing it and against some pretty decent talent too. Exactly. And he'll have, this is just early in the season. So who has time to continue to prove us right or wrong? You know what I mean? So Carson Beck, that's the first guy I'm going with who has impressed me so far this season.

Number two, boomer. Sooner. Say his team. John Mateer, the dual threat quarterback, 944 yards, five touchdowns in the air, four touchdowns Russian. He has thrown three interceptions, but he is playing winning football for Oklahoma. The Sooners are a tough out for anybody right now would be. Brett Venables and John Mateer and his dual threat ability. They're passing attack.

John Mateer is a second quarterback who has impressed me so far to share. By the way, they start getting some more of those wins in SEC play when that fires up, Mark. Heisman. Heisman conversation is going to keep growing for Mateer. And then the third guy, who might surprise some people, or it might not? Marcel Reed. Yeah, let's go. Marcel Reed.

Let me just tell you, this guy has 869 yards, nine touchdowns. one interception on a year. Add that 142 yards rushing and a rush touchdown. So he's over 1,000 yards and 10 total touchdowns in just three games. And what did he do last week against Notre Dame? Gave them, he dropped them down to 0 and 2. He had 360 yards against the Notre Dame defense, who we all respect. Two touchdowns, and he had the game-winning touchdown pass with 13 seconds left in the game. Those are the three guys who have impressed me the most this season. And, hey, still early, but had to show them three dudes. some love for show. How about that play against

Notre Dame? At Notre Dame, the back shoulder to the wheel route? Unreveable. The man's balling. Yeah. The man's bawling. Last year we knew him as only a guy who kind of had athletic ability he could run. But this year he's showing that arm off. He's showing that arm off.

A&M. Get it loose in the bullpen. Is this how you would warm up your arm? You think, coach, did you ever warm up your arm like this when you're playing minor league ball? Of course. Don't suck around. Can you not throw off? I forgot you was a soccer player, bro.

Oh, you did that. We didn't have a Tom House. Some bands, some band crap. Tired of all those bands. All right, I'm going to talk about three quarterbacks that folks aren't giving enough attention to. And coach, you rightfully said the Big Ten really loaded a quarterback. Guess what? So was the Big 12, all right?

Number one, a guy that we are going to see in person Saturday in Salt Lake City, Baron Morton at Texas Tech. He has the most passing touchdowns of any active quarterback. 60 after he put in four more on Saturday in the big home win over Oregon State. He's almost already at 1,000 yards passing this season. He will get there Saturday, assuming he stays healthy at Utah, has 11 touchdowns this season. He's already at 11. He's already double digits.

One interception, his completion percentage. And again, this is a program that throws the rock a ton, is at 70%. He's averaging over 11 yards of completion. Really looking forward to seeing what Morton. is like live in a real setting Saturday at Utah. Number two, I'm going to stay in the QB Rich Big 12. You know where I'm going, don't you guys? Yeah.

When I put this up, you know where I'm going. I'm going to the fort. TCU's Josh Hoover. Mark, guess his completion percentage through two games? Only two games. 90%. Wow. Okay.

No. Ten for the expectation. I thought 76 was really. good, and you bark out in 90. You're killing. 76%. Again, that's against North Carolina. You said, guess, I thought it was going to be extremely high. I thought it was high, 76. And then against Abilene Christian on Saturday, and they already had a bye week as well. Of course, SMU coming to the fort this Saturday. That's going to be a great game. Six touchdowns, had two in that week one game at Carolina, four more Saturday night at home.

There was a reason that a ton of programs, including a Tennessee, came after him in the offseason, but he elected to stay in the fort. Please, please remember that name. And then, is anybody given Arkansas' tail and green credit? Last year, threw for over 3,100 yards, 15 touchdowns, but nine interceptions. This year, he is up to his completion percentage rate already. I know it's early from 60 to 69%. And he's already thrown for 11 touchdowns, just two picks.

Taylin Green. Watch out for him, man. Taylin Green. He's going to be causing problems in the S&N. CC. Time now for the two-minute drill. It's brought to you by Fanduel. Visit fandul.com slash triple option to download the app and take advantage of a 50% profit boost today. Let's start in the Big 10. Two three and no programs, number nine, Illinois at number 19 Indiana. Hoosiers favored by four and a half over under 52 and a half. Both these programs right now have top 10 off.

and defenses. The aligni, remember, returned a ton of starters. They've got a three-headed rushing attack that head coach Brett Bilema talked about us in the offseason here on the triple option. The problem, though, has been protecting the quarterback. They returned the entire offensive line, right? You think things would be settled and safe in Champaign. Luke Altmeier has been sacked nine times already. That is fifth most in the NCAA. The Hoosiers. You know how they tuned up for this one on Saturday, guys? How they do that? How do they do that? They had Indiana State in town.

How do you think that one went? Mark, you can throw a high number at this time. 73. 73.0. I was going to say 80. Again, I can't please you, Mark, Ingram. Redshirt Jr. quarterback Fernando Mendoza, the Cal Transfer. In that game, 19 for 20, 270, five touchdowns through the air.

The Hoosiers, again, I'm going to. kind of looking at this through the lens of what's still to come, right? They have road trips to Oregon. They have road trips to Penn State. Let's just say those are losses, right? And those would be, assuming it's kind of close, good losses. If they can couple those good losses with a early top 10, again, Illinois in the top 10, a good top 10 win, they're very much as a path back to the playoffs for the Hoosiers. This is going to be one of the biggest games in Bloomington in recent years. I, however, like the Illini to cover.

And by the way, the Aligni, the following week, host USC next week. I believe, I believe in you, Coach Bilema, I believe in Illinois this week. All right, coach, where we're going, Salt Lake City, number 17, Texas Tech at number 16, Utah, the Ute's home favored by three over under 56 and a half. I'll tell you what, I'm going to try to be non-biased. I can't do that. You're all salt lake, man. No, it's not going to work.

This is all Salt Lake. You guys get to experience a place. I spent two years. I was talking to the AD of CISN AD. You know, Mark, they averaged about 12,000 people per game in 2002. In 2003, a young coach came in there from Bowdo. and our staff, Dan Mullen and everybody, and kept the guy named Kyle Whittingham as a defense coordinator. We were picked to finish last in the Mountain West Conference, and I think we went 24 and 2.

55,000 people per game. You're going to see the best student body of the must. So I can't wait for everybody to experience that. But Devin Dampier, the quarterback, came. How about the package deal? He came with Jason Beck, the offense coordinator from New Mexico. this quarterback. I watched him.

He didn't play great against Wyoming, but he did against E. Celia. This guy's a freak. He's Kyler Murrish. Not real big. Runs all over the field. Athlete, I'm going to pick Utah. I have a big home field advantage win on Big Noon,

and Utah covers the spread and wins the game. The AD at Texas Tech, my name dropping. I don't know why I was saying head coach, but the AD Kirby Hokey texted me this morning. A, I don't know how he got my number, but I'm cool with it. He says, Rob, Kirby Hillcut, Texas Tech. We look forward to this weekend,

going to be an exciting game. Let us know if you want any tortillas to throw on the set. I go, I go, hell yeah, we want tortillas. We don't find people on our show. He's like, all right, we'll be waiting for you all. So Mark, get ready to get ready to make those tortillas

and throw them at my face from three and a half feet away. Russian meat last year, man. What a great thing. What a spot. Have you been at Salt Lake? Rob? I have. Mark, have you been there? No, sir. It's going to blow you away.

So Salt Lake, when I got hired the year before the Olympics were there, we did everything. The brand new stadium, brand new dorms, brand new, I mean, it's spectacular. Yeah, I've been to Salt Lake, but I haven't been to Utah's campus yet, so I'm looking forward to that. Spectacular. It is nice host of the opening ceremonies for the Winter Olympics. Coach, I'm sorry, not Coach, Mark, we're talking about John Mateer, right? Like he starts getting some of these big SEC wins. We're going to be talking more and more about him in the Heisman race.

Number 11, Oklahoma and Meteer at 3-0. They host number 22 Auburn. The Barners are unbeaten as well this Saturday. They ain't played nobody. The Sooners are favored by four and a half. The over-under feels a little low, 47 and a half. It's not low, Stoner because these two teams are playing some defense. So let's start with Oklahoma.

John Mater is on the field, man. John Mater is on the field. We know about his dual threat ability, his big game pose, his yardage output. The man is straight bawling, and he's going to need it because they have the downfield explosive passing attack, but Auburn, their front seven, they get pressure on the quarterback. They have at least six players with one sack, and they've been bawling, so he's going to be able to use his legs to mitigate that disruptive front seven that Auburn has. But Oklahoma, they have defensive playmakers as well. Kip Lewis, he's one of their anchors of the defense, man, quick to the ball, high tackle count, home field advantage. managing Norman. We know how that is. Then let's talk Barners. You know, I don't like to talk

Barners, but we'll talk Barners. They have Jackson Arnold, the former Oklahoma quarterback coming back to Norman. So you know he's going to want to show his butt. Started 10 games for the Sooners at this time in Norman over two seasons. He has some great wide receivers, Cam Coleman, 6-3-5-star freshman last year. He is a matchup nightmare, Eric Singleton Jr. Speed on the outside. They have all the returning starters on the offensive line. They run the football, so they are balanced on offense, going against a great Oklahoma defense under Brett Venables. But like I said, their front seven is, Auburn's front seven is tough, man. So it's going to provide a challenge for Oklahoma.

But you know I'll never go Auburn. You know I'll never root Auburn. So in this game, I, what's it, minus four and a half? Is that what you said, minus four and a half? So I'd either buy the point. You're not going to say Auburn's going to cover, are you? I would never say they're going to cover. I'll never say Auburn's going to cover.

But a confident bet is Oklahoma outright. But if you want upside, go ahead and bet to minus four and a half, because I do see Oklahoma and John Materer winning by at least a touchdown. So if you want a confident bet, 100% guaranteed bet, go. Moneyline, Oklahoma. If you want the upside or you want to take the money, go ahead and bet to spread, minus four and a half. I got the John Materer in the fighting Sooners covering this at least by a touchdown.

I like when you guys make your picks with your heart. It's no way to go through. You got to be careful doing those heart picks, man. Got to be careful doing those heart picks. I ain't going to lie. The last three picks, money, picks, I didn't put my money on it, too. So we won and we lost. But we're going to keep on, keep it on.

We're going to win this week. Hey, by the way, you got some money for Alabama NIL that you just earned this week, right? Thank you, Big Cat. Big Cat was trying to force your hand into a... So did you take the point? Did you get points? I gave them 21 points and we won by 24. They had the ball at the end of the game going to drive

and they ran out of time, coach. So guess who wins, your boy. Roll Tide Nation. We got some NIL money coming from Big Cat. Roll damn tight. Is that Ingram? Is that the Ingram 5 NIL or is it actually Alabama NIL? The Ingram 5, we're going to open up our own NIL, but, you know, this is going to

to the Crimson Tide Nation. That's usually the answer right there I need some time Let me make some kind of sound To buy myself some time Uh huh I always do this when I'm like What's that?

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