The Triple Option - Indiana Hoosiers On Top of the College Football World, Mark Makes the HOF, & 2026 Predictions
Episode Date: January 21, 20262025 College Football National Champion - Indiana Hoosiers. Yes...you read that right. Urban Meyer, Mark Ingram II, and Rob Stone take you into the biggest moments from the College Football Playoff ...Championship between Indiana and Miami and tell you why the Hoosiers won it all and why the Hurricanes should be kicking themselves. Mark then discusses what it means to him to join Coach Meyer in the College Football Hall of Fame and the guys discuss what it takes to be a first ballot player after Cam Newton didn't get in this season. Mark dubs Fernando Mendoza his final Dawg of the Week before we let Cig Sound Off! and carry out all the promises he made just two years ago. The guys go Three and Out finding the next Hoosiers in College Football before taking a look at the 2026 College Football Playoff National Championship odds (attn Notre Dame, Texas, and Oregon fans, get your bets in ASAP!). 01:17 Hoosiers Win It All 08:14 Championship Moments 16:55 Carson Beck Legacy 24:08 Mark Ingram II - College Football Hall of Famer 32:50 Deuce Deuce Dawg of the Week 39:51 Sound Off - Cig Comes Through 45:05 Finding the Next Hoosiers 48:45 2026 Championship Futures New episodes of The Triple Option drop every Wednesday. Make sure you’re subscribed on YouTube and following on all podcast platforms. Also make sure you’re locked in on social @3XOptionShow on all platforms for highlight moments, bonus content, and to engage with the guys and the TO community. (https://tripleoptionshow.com) The Triple Option is presented by Wendy’s. Join Team Tendy’s and enjoy a line-up like never before. Crispy. Juicy. Tendy’s Now at Wendy’s. https://www.tendys.com Thank you to our additional sponsors FanDuel – Visit https://Fanduel.com/TripleOption to download the app and take advantage of a 50% Profit Boost today! #CollegeFootball #CollegeFootballPlayoff #CFP #Indiana #Hoosiers #Miami #Hurricanes #ACC #BigTen #Alabama #CamNewton #Northwestern Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Let's talk about what transpired on Monday, courtesy of any given Saturday. And the Hoosiers,
the who, who, who, hoosers are your national champions. They are just the second team to go 16 and
in college football since that legendary 1890, is it 497? I can't read my handwriting.
Yale?
Yeah, Yale.
1894, back in Yale.
I just went on through a couple bucks on Wake Forest.
Who else?
UAB.
Oh, you're talking, you're already going deep.
Who else can run it back?
Massachusetts.
Man.
Think about it.
What are we talking about?
It's insane.
Indiana's 101, man.
Indiana's one of one.
Is this an outlier?
Is this an outlier?
Is this an outlier?
Like never to be done again?
One million to one.
One of one, man.
like Signetti, what he'd been able to do with this program,
the buying he's had from his players, the support he's had from the NIL,
the way he coaches, the group that he's assembled, they're one of one, man.
I don't see this being replicated anytime soon.
I agree.
Spectacular.
But we would have said there's no chance this would have ever happened.
We're talking about replicating.
I mean, 48 months ago, 12 months ago, you'd say, no way, come on.
I mean, that was a nice run with James Madison kids last year.
Nobody had Indiana in the national championship this year.
Even after last year they went 12 and 2.
We thought that they would be good.
We didn't think they'd be in the national title game, winning it.
Was there any point this season where you guys said yourself,
oh, wait, this team can win a national titles?
I remember when they went to Eugene and won, I was like, hey, they're here,
but I still had this reservation.
Even when they beat Ohio State in the Big Ten championship game, I was like...
When they beat Bama, when they beat Bama.
That was it, huh?
Why?
And then they solidify.
it with the same thromping of Oregon.
Yeah.
Like, when you see that going in the playoffs, you're like, okay, they beat Ohio State.
Even when you beat Ohio State market was at two red zone opportunities by Ohio State that
really Ohio State should have won the game.
And I was there.
We were all there.
We were watching the game and who had better players or how state.
They did.
You know, who, but my gosh, it's one of the greatest football teams of all time because we're
going to go review the game here in a minute.
Name a mistake they make.
I can't.
They don't.
I'm not talking about like in the game Saturday.
I'm talking about two years of studying this football team
where they've had two losses in two years
and the people on the other side
got some better that you got in a lot of those games.
So I mean, this is a monumental
and I'm never going to take away from those players
because those aren't good players.
Those are great players.
Yes.
But the NFL draft is going to show you there's,
you know, the majority
of the draft opportunity players are going to be mid to late,
which is a credit to them.
I mean, my gosh, was that.
Maximizing it.
You said maximizing.
Maximizing.
Yeah.
Most maximized team in the history of college.
Every single team they played other than a few of the, you know,
non-conference games,
we've always said the other team has better players.
But this team plays hard.
They put a chip on their shoulder.
And they fight for one another, man.
They coach well.
They don't make mistakes.
And, dog.
This is just like, I just can't believe it.
They went 16 and 0 and won the Natty, dog.
Like, what are we talking about?
So, Mark, I was there again.
Mark, I was there again.
I was there in the first playoff game, not first.
I was there against Oregon.
16 and O.
And walked around on the sideline again.
And I was there with Tebow yesterday.
And we were walking from drill to drill, drill to drill to drill again,
just staring at these guys.
And the coaches, the business like Aiden Fisher
and his lineback Haynes,
the de-coordinator, the work, the efficiency, the confidence.
Did you see any Fisher rush over that tailback?
The effort and the technique he used on the tailback?
He gave him a little out-in, out, and he sacked the quarterback.
And I just was watching him warm up, and I'm staring at these guys going,
this is the, this is for a football coach that love football,
that the better part of my life has been in it.
That was magical.
That was really cool to watch.
I can't wait for that movie to come out.
Oh, who's your part two?
Oh, Jimmy Chitwood played by Fernando Mendoza.
But you talk about those guys.
Look up like Ponds.
Ponds, what, $5.9, a buck 80.
And plays his, yes.
Soft, man.
Tide in going up to catch a high-pointed ball.
He just goes and hits him clean and jars the ball loose.
A big third downstop.
You just seen this kid warm up.
This kid warmed up.
Once again, just the three feet from him.
And he is, I'll tell you what, for what he doesn't have in this, he's got Twitch.
Yeah.
He's put together and he's got great twitch and great.
instinct. And how about Big Ten Network guys told me last year, Cignetti, called them over. And this is
preseason camp a year ago. They pointed to Pons and said that's our best football player.
Wow. Big Ten Network guys was like, wow, that's great. But if that's your best player,
good luck. You know, you're five foot nine corner. A lot. Yeah, you're not, we're not going to win
the national, we're not going to lift the national championship trophy in 24 months.
And by the way, the coaching staff, the work that entire staff,
did. I know Signetti gets all the attention and understandably and deservedly so.
But those coordinators and the people underneath them as well, Coach, to your point, what they've done, how they've educated these players and school them and put them in the moments to succeed constantly and they listen, they take in this knowledge.
That staff is borderline legendary with what they did considering what they had.
Together for nine years, and I didn't know this, BTN brought this up, that the defense coordinator, who G8 for me.
in 2013.
And I don't remember much because he was on the defense society.
I just didn't spend much time with him over there.
And I asked Coach Fickel.
I asked Coach Day about him.
They tried to hire him.
They said, oh, excellent coach, obviously excellent coach.
But they said he was on government assistance
because he was making $10,000 a year working for James,
for working for IUP, IUP, and now he's making $3 million years
in the National Championship Defense Corps.
And, by the way, he earned that three-mill.
He did.
That's one of those guys.
Sometimes you scratch your headside.
Does that guy earn that?
Yeah.
The defense is tough, man. That defense is tough.
And you continuously, you talk about the support and staff.
You talk about the coaching staff.
That's one thing I admire about Coach Signette.
He deflects the praise all the time.
He's always saying it's about a process, a plan, a vision, and the people that you have in the building.
We've been a part of some special teams.
You've been a part of a special group of people.
When you have the right people in a building who put their ulterior, their egos aside for the betterment of the team for one common goal, that's what this team is did.
And it's because of the group that they assembled in that building.
And that's why they had a special season because they had special people in the building.
All right.
Let's pivot to some of the big moments, particularly in the second half.
The first half was dominated by Indiana, you know, shutting out the hurricanes, heading to the locker room, all that energy.
Things changed a little bit.
But the biggest, I think probably the biggest play in the game was the block punt.
It was a three-point game at this juncture.
Third quarter.
And coach, you just call it an effort play?
So as I went back and watched it, actually watched it again this morning,
is that was a, they were in punt safe mark.
They were just preparing to get a return.
Yes.
And if you think about pivotal moments, that's going to, that's going to haunt the hurricanes.
There's three plays to my mind that they would be, they would be waking up national
champions. It was an off-sides penalty by Baines on a third down situation. It was a third and
17 face mask, but the most detrimental, the play that will haunt the hurricanes. And punt safe,
it was simply one guy going really, really hard against someone that didn't block him.
It was the difference in the game. It was. And he got the MVP of the defense and he should
have got it. All he did is he out effort the hurricanes on that play, put his left hand up,
blocked the punt, scored, touchdown, because the momentum was, it was over. It was over. It was
think about that the yard is differential in the second half.
Miami kicked their ass in the second half now, Mark.
Right.
And it felt that way.
We were in.
Yeah, 278 to 155, coach.
And give Miami credit.
But Miami has kind of been a mistake team throughout the year a little bit.
Because on paper and future NFL players, I would probably say Miami was the better,
most talented, more talented.
I don't, I think that's pretty well.
I wouldn't say obvious.
because Indiana's got great talent.
But Indiana, I mean, being there watching the two teams,
Miami a better personnel.
Listen, you talk about that block point.
Let's put this, let's just give them the grand scheme, right?
Miami comes out, score a touchdown.
You come on defense.
You're about to get the ball back at midfield,
maybe even a big play with Malachi Tony.
That's why you're a punt safe, coach.
You're a punt safe because you're about to have a return man for your returner
and you guys are trying to scheme up to get in better field position.
It's 7 to 10
You get a block punt for a touchdown
And now it goes 17 to 7
You're supposed to get the ball back in midfield
You go
That's essentially the difference in the game right there
It's 7 to 10
You lose by what six points
They get a touchdown off a block punt
That is the sole difference in the game
In my opinion
It gave Indiana some momentum
And it had Miami fighting uphill
For the rest of the game
But Miami balled man
You talked about Carson Beck
He played almost three
games, you know, other than the last play of the national championship game, he played almost
three flawless games. Malachi Tony, balled out. This kid is a dog. This kid goes, he inserts in
blocks safeties and linebackers. Mark Fletcher Jr. Toted the Rock, they got some ball players,
man. And if I'm Miami right now, they let one go. I feel that way because in the second half,
they dominated. They came out. They made adjustments. They dominated. And one block
field goal was the difference of the game. He lost by six points.
So that made it 17.7.
And then the next two big plays, and I had these circled and I wrote them down two fourth
and five calls by Indiana. And it was funny. I was watching the NFL playoffs over the weekend
with one of my buddies and his kids. And his kids are out of college and whatnot. And I said to
them, I'm like, hey, youngsters, there was a time when if you looked over and it's, and it showed,
you know, on the sticks, fourth down, you're kicking the damn ball.
you're punting or you're going for the field goal right it wasn't it didn't matter if it was fourth and
two three four whatever you're kicking the damn ball now we live in this age where you're like
fourth and five at the 37 let's go for it and and that one for that's the first of two fourth and five
calls on the same drive coach you felt that one was was a no-brainer that ended up to be another
one of those classic back shoulder throws to charlie becker what a job
Beckard did in the playoffs.
But let's start with that first fourth and five call at the 37.
Why did you like it?
Well, the call, the decision, I would say the decision is.
Correct.
Yeah, it's a no-brainer.
That's a 100% decision.
You can't pun it.
And that's two out of, you practice that all the time.
And you have a, you have a, he looked right on his sheet, that yard, they practiced that.
However, a back shoulder throw.
Do you remember last year, Mark?
they were doing the back shoulder throws too.
Yeah.
As we were, I mean, so that, you have to start giving credit to the coach
because first of all, Mendoza did it.
He's a Heisman trophy winner.
Charlie Becker did it.
He's a great football player.
But that's not something you go out and, hey, let's go do that on fourth and five.
They've done that 10,000 times.
Yeah.
They've done that all summer.
They've done that in the offseason.
Because he didn't baby that throw either.
He threw it.
He threw a back, I mean,
threw him open.
One of the great plays, man.
So in a three-point game, though, Coach, in a three-point game, you know, it would have been a long field goal.
You would have been more comfortable pushing to get the seven rather than maybe not a guaranteed three.
You're talking about the 12-yard line, or are you talking about the 37?
That's done, Mark.
Yeah, 37-47, 45-yard field goal, no.
Okay.
All right.
So the other one was at the 12.
And again, it was fourth and five.
Okay.
Different scenario, for sure.
Completely different scenario.
boy run.
So Jeremy Foley, my athletic director of Florida, would come in my office, and we would often
just have a quick conversation.
And he would always talk about certain situations that he's experienced it as an AD, that if
you get in that position, you have to go, you know, that's a game set match.
That's game.
Because Miami went down and scored.
Yeah.
So that's a game set match.
The prior two possessions, Miami had, they scored touchdowns.
So three points in this, if I'm, if I'm, if I'm,
Signetti, three points is not doing me nothing.
A six point lead is not enough.
Yes, is what you're saying. The chance to go
up two possessions
was crucial and was critical in that
part of the game. So, but go ahead and finish up, Coach.
So we had a similar situation
that's Oklahoma when I had Tebow in the group
and we went for it.
Because, you know,
if you give them the ball,
that's one of those things that you'll regret.
And your players, you know, the players
that probably look at and say, why would we not do
this at this? I mean, we've got
here. Let's go win the damn game. And that was game set match. So I mean, and the play call
of all the iconic. So let's think of him. Vince Young. I'm a little biased. The Tebow jump
past in 08. I'm sure, Mark, you got some iconic plays from your national championship. But that
Mendoza run. Rob. Big boy. That'll go to the archives in the history of, you'll see that
for the next 25 years on highlight reels. Coach, that's statue material in Bloomington. The
outstretched arms.
Mark Cuban is, I'm sure, cutting the check right now.
And he should.
He should.
Yeah.
He should.
That was a big boy run, coach.
Fourth and five with the natty on the line.
And he got a hit.
Yes.
He got a hit.
Hey, Miami, we talk about them having dudes, right?
We talk about him.
He's feeling that this morning while we're recording this.
At the line in the game, at the five yard mark, he drops his shoulder and runs over
to Mike lineback.
He bounces off, keeps his balance, extends, breaks the plane of the goal line,
and gets hit in the back.
for the tutty.
And lunges.
Yes.
I mean.
That's a big boy.
That's the bronze statue right.
Yep.
Going in the end zone.
Yep.
But to me, coach, if you look at the last four Miami possessions,
they had touchdown, touchdown, touchdown,
interception on the final play of the game.
You had to go.
Signetti saw this.
Signetti was like, we're in trouble here.
They kind of made some of justice.
They figured us out.
We're not slowing them down.
I can't kick this field going to lose this.
game.
Because didn't they pull them off?
Didn't he send the field go team on?
Yeah, he sent the field.
There was a timeout, I believe, coach.
And there was real discussion.
Yep.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I get it.
Yeah.
That's a.
You have to make that decision, and I respect it from Signetti.
Because if you don't make that decision, the game, the outcome of the game might
be different because they did not slow down Malachi, Tony.
They did not slow down Mark Fletcher.
Carson Beck was in his own.
The offensive line was firing off the ball.
The offense, the three prior possessions, they had three touchdowns,
coach. We're not stopping them. I can't give him the ball back.
Miami was a great-looking team, man. I stood next to Carson Beck for the first time.
I stood next to him. That's a great-looking player. Six-four, I'm saying two-thirty.
And he has a nice arm, nice, and I know there's going to be a lot of, a lot of, his legacy is
going to be somewhat like, you know, he had so many chances. He played for two national
championship. Didn't really play at Georgia in those games. And then I think Mark or Rob, you said he had
Eight times.
Oh, he had late.
Six losses.
Six losses.
Eight losses.
Eight losses.
Six of the eight.
Six of the eight,
he had the ball in his hand.
Yeah.
And through an interception.
Yeah.
And he was great through the playoffs, too, by the way.
He was flawless, his playoff.
He was what Miami needed.
I just wonder why he threw that last ball like that.
It was double coverage, Mark.
He predetermined.
He looked like he said, I'm going to take this shot.
Bro, you got time, man.
Don't be desperate.
You know what I mean?
But Miami, the way I believe.
believe a football team is supposed to look is how Miami looked.
I was skeptical of them early in the year.
I thought they would win nine, ten games and not go much further.
But how this offensive line was built, how they were built in the trenches, then you have
a running back, then you have a receiver of a jack of all trades, just an athlete who
you get the ball to.
Defensively, they play hard, they play tough.
This is sustainable what Mario Crystal Ball has built this year in Miami.
And if they had Cam Ward on that team,
I think that we might be talking about one of the best teams in the country.
You know what I mean?
So Cam Ward didn't have no defense like that when he was there.
It's interesting you bring up the Cam Ward part, Mark,
because in this day and age where we're getting one and duns at the quarterback spot, right,
how many times you're sitting there saying, man, if we just had this guy for two years,
we're here, we're here.
And maybe Oregon's saying that right now.
Like, we got Dante Moore.
And guess what, Dante's coming back.
And I know he can make a lot of money.
NFL, but I think the fact that Dante Moore is coming back for that second year at the same place
gives Oregon a boost. It's going to have Oregon in that top five in the in the preseason.
And those are the little, the difference makers between winning a national title and not winning.
I think that the template has all been set now with the Big Ten's one of three years in row.
Most mature veteran teams.
Every team, average age is what someone said.
They were 20, you know, about the same age as NFL team.
It was like 25.
That's what they were saying.
Average plane, half of his experience was almost four years.
Yeah.
Someone threw that at me yesterday as well.
So the Wolverines did it.
The Buckeyes did it.
I actually talked to Coach Day about that yesterday.
We talked before the game and he mentioned that, that everybody is now, that's, and everyone's talking about it.
How do we get a locker room of grown-ass men that's been through it?
Yeah.
As opposed to coaching that 21-year-old, Mark, is a much different cry than that 18-year-old.
Yeah.
You've got a grown-ass man with experience.
it understands the game.
Coach, remember, back in the day,
who were the two programs
that were doing it with the grown-ass men
in the state of Utah?
BYU.
BYU, yeah.
BYU and Utah, right?
Yeah, yeah, go on that mission.
Come back a little bit bigger,
a little bit faster, a little bit older, more mature,
and that's why they had so much success as well.
So the template is there.
The Big Ten wins three straight national titles
for the first time since the early 40s.
It was Minnesota in 40,
Minnesota and 41 in Ohio State and 40.
32. Three straight Big Ten Natties.
The Big Ten.
Four?
The King.
Four? Anybody want to call four in a row right now?
The King of College Football. Big Ten right now.
The Big Ten coffers.
In Indiana, the Hoosiers.
If it's four in a row, if it's four in a row, it's going to be the fourth different program to do it.
It's going to be Oregon.
Go ahead.
There's your way too early call.
If it's going to be four straight from the Big Ten, it's going to be Oregon doing it.
Wow.
Congratulations.
Indiana. And thank you college football, by the way. What a tremendous season and a college football
playoff that it delivered. We'll see if there'll be more college football playoff games next year in the
couple days. Coming up next, who's going to be that next Indiana? We'll talk about that. Our newest
Hall of Famer, I'm looking at you. Mark gives us his last doose doose dog of the week for the season.
And we go back in time when Indiana football and national championship seemed like an absolute
impossibility. We frankly don't have to go all that far back.
Ladies.
Welcome back to the Triple Option presented by Wendy's. Rob Urban, Mark, here with you.
Before we get our deuce-duce dog of the week, you know who the real dog is, coach?
Right over there.
Hall of Fame dog?
Is the College Football Hall of Famer Mark Ingram the second. Congratulations, my man.
Thank you, brothers. I appreciate it, man.
Hey, how did you find out?
So I get home from working out
And I'm like just sitting here chilling
And like
I never opened packages or something
But my wife like
She she must have got there
She got home
She was home before me or whatever
And so there's like an overnight package
Getting delivered to the door
And she gets it and she's like
This must be important
So she opens my package
And she like sees like what's in it
And she's like oh oh oh oh
So she's like taping it up
taping it up.
Like, and like, she's taping it up.
And I get home and, like, you know, I'm eating.
I just finished my workout.
She gave me a plate of food or whatever.
And she's like, yo, open this.
I'm like, what is this?
She's, I don't know, something overnight.
You know what I mean?
So I get it.
And I open it.
And I look, and I just see, like, the football.
I'm like, then I see the letter.
I'm like, hey, Chelsea, come look at this.
And she's over there recording.
to be like this.
I said, I say, how do you know about this?
I said, you know about this?
I'll tell you of all my former players, all my former coaches, Mark.
You become family.
We could be more, I know the Meyer family.
They all texted you, right?
They all called you.
Michelle called me free time.
Because you joined Big Noon and this.
You're family, bro.
We are so excited for you.
And deserve.
Name another guy more deserved than that, Rob.
I appreciate it.
Mark Hager. What you've done for college football? Are you kidding me?
No-brainer. No-brainer. Should have been last year. We'll get to that one in a second.
It should have been going in with you. Should have been a double party.
We also want to extend some congratulations to others who are going into the college football Hall of Fame with Mark next year.
Yeah, yeah. Fox family.
Hey, by the way, Coach Patterson, Gary Patterson, who might be getting back into the game.
What a job he did at TCU in Darmacus, Marvin Harrison, one of the great whiteouts, Aaron Donald.
What a great class for me to going with, man.
I had some teammates that I play with.
I play with Olin Croats, who's going in there.
He was a rookie.
He was on like year 14.
I played with James Lauren Nitis, Ohio State Buckeye legend.
Eric Weddle, very familiar with him, playing against him.
I recruited him, yeah.
Yep.
Garrison Hurst, a legendary running back.
Like, wasn't a great class to be able to go on with.
I'm so honored.
I'm so thankful.
It means the world to me.
I'm just a young brother from Flint, Michigan,
with hopes and dreams of being the best footballer
that I could be.
And, man, check your boy out, Stone.
There she is.
There she is.
Check your boy out.
You know, it's really neat about the class mark, too.
So in Vegas, you don't really get to know the class you're going in with.
But when they rerun it in January at the Peach Bowl, it's just you guys.
And so actually in the Hall of Fame, you're going to see the class of 2026, you're forever.
That's going to be your class.
And we talked about it.
Everybody got up to speak.
and it got real emotional, more emotional in Atlanta than it was in Vegas.
Vegas is just a big crowd.
Yeah.
But it's really tight.
You really get to know.
I think Vegas is more for your family than the Peach Bowl and the Hall of Fame actual is more for the class of 2026.
But let me read this to you.
This messed me up, Stone.
This messed me up.
Let me read this to you.
So they send you a letter, right?
It says, you are joining an elite group of the five.
5.78 million who have played and coached the game.
Just over 1,300 individuals in the history of our sport
have earned interest into the college football Hall of Fame.
In other words, less than 1% of players, coaches all time,
have been worthy of this distinction.
And now you're one of them.
Nice.
Does it have like that Gaelic script type handwriting?
Oh, there it is. Nice.
So, you know, it's funny,
the three of us were together in Norman, Oklahoma,
a couple weeks ago for that first college football playoff game,
and we hung out with the Hall of Famer,
Coach Stoops
Coach Stoops knew
He did
He knew at the live show
And he was just
He keying all in my face
Didn't want it to give me
No type of inkling
No type of hint
But no I appreciate Coach Stoops
Because that was a great way
To find out
Opening up the letter
And you know
They was like
We're gonna announce it at 2 o'clock
And that was just a blessed day
Man I'm just so honored
And thankful man
I'm fortunate to be around
Some great people
Coach Signati said that
You know
It was all about the people
He was around
It was all about the people
where I was around. I had great coaches. I had great teammates. I had great trainers. I had great
academic advisors. I had so many people around me, family, friends and support that it's for all
of us. It's for everyone, man. And I couldn't have did it without everyone to help me. And I'm just so
thankful. And God is extremely good. It's another thing to go ahead and add to the list, man,
because God bless me with this talent and disability. It's up to me to give it back to him. So I'm just
so thankful and appreciate that God bless me with this platform. It's an awesome honor. We're so
proud of both of you guys. But there is room for critique here. And I've got a couple beefs with the
College Football Hall of Fame. Number one, and I think all Hall of Fame are all great
places that are honoring people. Need to show a little flexibility. Like coach last year and Mark
this year, I was sick. I was sick that we, your big noon family, couldn't announce it and pop it on
you and bring it up. I think putting it on a bigger platform would have served the
Football Hall of Fame to a higher calling.
And I would have loved that.
And some of that is certainly selfish as well,
because I would have loved to jump in you
and given you a big hug and then thrown you in a pool in promo.
Number two is, listen, you know,
and this happens at all Hall of Fame.
There's some great guys that didn't get in for now.
Last year, we were like, why is Mark not going in?
Right.
All right, so he's going to be a year two guy.
This year, you look at it,
and I know, I know he's a barter.
No, but Cam Newton.
He's real.
Listen, what Cam Newton did, he should be there with you.
And he's not.
And, you know, the voting is a little bit nebulous out there.
You're not really sure what it is you're looking for.
And it's not like you have to say, hey, you've got to run for this many yards and catch this many pass and do this many wins to get in.
But it is odd.
Like, it does feel like Cam should be there with you.
Yeah.
Like, yeah, last year, you know, I was very kind of hurt that I wasn't going in with Coach Meyer and Coach Saban.
You know, obviously, Coach Saban was my coach who recruited me.
and obviously Coach Meyer, someone who I've gotten extremely close with is my family.
His family is my family.
And then now, so I was wondering why I didn't go first ballot.
So I don't know what it takes to be a first ballot college football Hall of Famer,
being the first in the Heisman in Alabama history, nearly 2,000 scrimmage yards,
undefeated, 20 touchdowns, national championship.
Now you have Cam Newton who comes on the ballot.
And I don't care Auburn or not.
This dude had probably the most dominant season.
from a player that we've seen in college football.
You know, we have Joe Burrow, you have Reggie Bush, you have Tebow,
but Cam Newton nearly 3,000 pass yards, almost 1,500 rush yards, 30 passing touchdowns,
20 rushing touchdowns, totaling 50 touchdowns, like perfect 14-0 season,
BCS National Champion.
What else I got to do?
What else I got to do?
If that's not first ballot, I mean, other than Coach Meyer, Coach Saban, I know they are
the most legendary coaches in college football history,
so they went first ballot.
But as a player, I'm not sure what it takes for you to be college football,
Hall of Famer first ballot.
And I'm kind of just appalled by Cam Newton not being on it.
I was appalled by myself, humbly, not being there.
Yeah, yeah, I get it.
Definitely, Cam Newton, not being first ballot.
I'm going to have to look back and see who has been first ballot players.
Cam will be there.
Cam will be there.
He'll be there next year.
He'll be there.
I'm not sure what it is, but he'll be there next year.
year.
RJ3 was on the ballot.
I think he was the first in Baylor history.
He had a crazy season.
So he'll be there too.
But, you know, we're just not sure what it takes to be a first ballot college football
Hall of Famer at this moment.
Regardless, we have two college football Hall of Famers on the triple option presented
by Wednesdays.
Where can you get that at?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Look around.
Look around.
Have at it.
Or just hang out with us all the time.
All right, here it is.
Coach, open up your senses.
Get ready for sensory overload.
It is time for the final Duce Duce.
The finale?
The final Duce Duce.
The final Duce Dog of the Week, man.
You know who we got to go with.
We got to go with, yeah boy.
Fernando, my Heisman brother, Mendoza.
And why?
The statistics, they're not sexy,
but he did exactly what was needed to be done.
He got cheap shot in the chin when he wasn't looking.
got hit, you know, blind side shots.
He was getting smacked and he was just getting up and he was just making throws on fourth
and six to Charlie Becker.
He was making throws on third and long to Surrott.
He was making throws to Omar Cooper Jr.
He was running the Mike Linebacker over.
Boom.
On fourth and five for a 12-yard touchdown run to go up by two possessions, the Heisman
brother, the man who led Indiana to a perfect 16-0 season.
It's not just about the national championship game.
It's about what he did all season long.
And it's Fernando.
Heisman brother Mendoza.
Hise Mendoza for the hurrah, hurrah, hooose, doose, dog of the week.
Because he did that.
And he really is that.
Can you even imagine that there was like a Heisman debate?
I know the season, you know, that some of the other great players in college football have.
But like, looking back now, you're like, of course it was Mendoza to win the Heisman.
No, I don't see that, Rob.
I see him mid-season is no.
No, in seven games, he threw five picks at one point.
He was averaging under two yards per game, throwing the ball,
looked quite average in a few games.
And then everybody's remembering these last five games.
These last five games, bought him a Heisman,
probably a $30 million contract in the NFL.
And Todd McShay, myself, said he should go back to college.
So I just think it was a little bit of a Joe Burrow type.
I mean, last year he's a good player.
You know, he, but I just think his maturity, his, I mean,
and I'm the biggest fan of that guy.
But to say that he was in 2000, what was it, 25,
the Heisman frontrunner and he should have won it?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No way.
I mean, he was a guy that was.
Oh, I'm not saying he was the frontrunner coming into the season.
I'm just saying when you look back on everything.
When you voted at Heisman time, I don't think it was a,
I don't think it was a dunk.
For me, because that was right after the Big Ten championship game.
And for me, it was no-brainer, right?
Just the leadership and what he'd done.
Let me ask you this, Rob, if he didn't do that in the Big Ten Championship,
would you have felt the same way?
Yeah, so we talked about that.
That was the moment to me.
Yeah, the Big Ten championship game was the one that did finally kind of swing it to him.
And then if you're lucky enough and you're not, of course,
because the He's been voting, it's already had to be in.
But to look back at what he did through the course of these playoffs and how he led them
But you look at Penn State and Iowa, and you would say, yeah, probably not a Heisman, Kai.
I mean, I'm the Heisman moments, but you, I'm talking to entirety because I've coached and been around Heismans.
Yeah.
You know, you just mentioned a guy, Cam Newton.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Whoa.
That was a whoa.
Different.
Now.
But who gave you a woe this year?
Who would have?
It was a down year for the Heisman.
Yeah.
Good point.
It was a down year for the Heisman.
Now, the woe was over, you know, with the Ohio State and then the playoff run.
It's an absolute, you know, magical.
He will go down in history, deservedly history.
That's why I think the Heisman, Mark, should be now.
They should be doing the Heisman now.
Yeah.
After the season.
Yeah, I mean, those are those Heisman moments.
I mean, there's some people, and I would get rid of the Heisman voters that vote early because they're lazy.
So they have stopped that.
You need to vote after the big games.
Yeah, they have stopped that.
They usually vote after championship weekend, all right?
Yeah, to their credit, they've done a great job with that.
But yeah, he heard that he deserved it.
I'm proud of him.
He won it.
You know, when you look at some of the quarterback numbers
compared to the last few quarterbacks who have won it,
like Joe Burrow, Bryce Young, et cetera,
the numbers were kind of a little down.
But at the end of the day, what he did for Indiana,
16 and 0, how he went to his playoffs.
Yes, 16 and 0.
I don't care what level you play football.
I don't care what sport it is.
16 and O is hard to do
and he led this team to do it
Fernando Mendoza.
How about their non-conference schedule?
No one's ever going to talk.
Kennesaw State, Old Dominion,
Indiana State.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's why we were all skeptical of them
because we're like,
you ain't played nobody.
It's coming again next year.
It's coming to get next year.
I already have been looking at their schedule.
I don't know what they got going on
because they ain't play nobody.
But when they play somebody,
they put belt to butt.
Bow, pow, pow, bow.
Big Noon in Bloomington, huh?
Big No.
I don't know how often Big Noon is going to be in Bloomington
because it's a pretty soft schedule to open things up,
but I'll tell you one weekend that jumps out, Coach.
Buckeyes in Bloomington.
Oh, type it in your calendar right now.
Put it on your calendar right now, Mark.
But Buckeyes in Bloomington, and guess who's got the target on them?
Indiana.
Cream and crimson have the target on them.
Not Scarlin and Gray.
Cream and Crimson have the target on them.
them with the Buckeyes in town.
Welcome to the New World Order.
So Lou Holtz used to always say, and it's true, as you climb the mountain,
takes passion energy because the arrows aren't pointed at you.
Once you're at the top of the mountain, it's nothing but fatigue.
You know why?
Every arrow right now in college football is pointed at Indiana.
Everyone that got Indiana on that schedule, it is circled.
It is highlighted.
It is bold, italicized, and underlying, and they are bringing your best shot.
Hold on. Hit pause.
Hit pause the two of you.
Let that sink in what you both just said.
Indiana's on the top of the mountain and everybody's coming for you.
And I mean, they are coming after them.
I know a bunch already that have told me they're coming after them.
Yeah.
And Coach, they're coming after them by replicating them.
They're like, how did Indiana get it done?
That's how we're going to do it.
That's right.
Just imagine how they whipped on Alabama.
Alabama was Indiana.
Just imagine how they work.
Belt to what?
Belt to ass.
Hey.
Huh.
Huh.
Hey.
Hey.
Does imagine how they whipped out Oregon.
Do they play Oregon next year?
Oregon going to want some of that.
Yeah.
Watch out for Oregon.
Ohio State.
Ohio State wants some of that.
They're going to want some of that.
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Time now to sound off,
and we're going to go back to
before Kurt Signetti
even stepped on the football field
in Bloomington.
This is not his Google speech.
This is another one inside assembly hall.
Take a listen.
Super fired up about this opportunity.
Oh, my God.
You know, like the AD and the wife
might be like,
hey.
Hey, tone it down.
You can just say old Dominion socks and, you know, maybe take a shot at a Kent State.
No, we're going right for the big boys from the tip.
From the tip.
Yep.
Not taking the back seat to nobody, coach.
And that's what you want running your program, alpha dog like that,
who now will only have the balls to say it,
but more importantly, has the cajones, the onions to back it up.
You know, I didn't.
Coach Signetti did.
I knew Signetti, we talked about this one time back.
We had dinner together back in 30 years ago.
He was at pit, I think it was like 30 years ago.
probably 98, so just under 30.
And we remained kind of in touch, but not really.
But then you really study his background.
The guy really does win everywhere.
His record's unbelievable.
Google me.
I mean, this is not a one-shot wonder,
but I'll tell you what, now it is because I experienced it.
Life's about, I remember, so real quick story,
we won it an 06, Rob, in our first national championship.
I remember I called my father in the locker room.
I called Earl Bruce, my mentor, and I laid back it because, I mean, this is an intense job.
You know that? And I looked at them both, and I said, you know, the really cool thing is for the rest of my career, I get to do this for fun because we did it.
That's the most incorrect statement made. It's about to get hard right now.
Because the target, like you said, no one even thought of Indiana. I played against him a bunch of times.
You know, it was kind of whatever.
That's a win.
It's just a win already on the schedule.
Everyone is a target. Everyone is a target.
And the big dogs want some of you. Ohio State wants some of you. Oregon wants some of you. Bamma wants some of you. Miami wants some of you now when they can get you on this schedule. And they want your coaching staff too. I can't believe those two coordinator. Within a year, there'll be head coaches. They should be too.
Coach, I was thinking about that. There's been no attrition to the coaching staff. And another reason that they've had so much success. Saving. Saving our staffs, I mean, the great staff, they get just poached, man.
It stayed, the Bama staff stayed consistent for, from about 08 to about 13, 14, 15.
And then.
Did it really?
Yeah, it stayed consistent until about after like, yeah, about, because we won three out of four.
We won in 2009, we won in 11 and we won in 12.
After that, it started breaking up.
Once Kirby left and went to Georgia, it started breaking up.
So, but what Cochignette has for Indiana, he has the resources.
With his contract, he said, I need the resources to be able to pay my coaches.
That's the only way you're going to be able to keep them before they start leaving.
Hey, by the way, that stadium, Memorial Stadium, it's going to look a lot different pretty soon.
Oh, the money that's flown into Bloomington?
Yeah, there's some things that they can do to upgrade that place.
And again, why upgrade it?
Right.
Like when Signetti took over, there were all these pictures online last night.
I was seen of like, here's a snapshot of me sitting in the stands at Memorial Stadium, Signetti's first game.
And it's just emptiness.
right it's emptiness and now people are going to be flooding in there and there's so much they can do
with the exterior the interior that that place is i mean it's just it's remarkable coach like to be where
to remember what indiana was when you would go in there with ohio state right and now to put a pin in it
and say hey let's go visit it two years from their national title and look at what bloominton is going
to be like like hotels are popping up already right we're stayed at new hotels for big noon kickoff like
All this energy that football has brought to that town and will continue to bring is.
Mark, you go in those kind of environments.
And I always tell people that the pregame speech before the robbery game or when you're playing in Alabama is not really that important.
What is you want to keep the players down and you want to focus on your job.
Against Indiana, you used to break the chalkboard.
I would throw chairs.
I would break the chalkboard.
I would always coach our coaches because we'd have to get some energy because you'd play in a place like that.
You got to bring your own injury.
Yeah, the players were dead.
And, you know, you don't have to get Ohio State fired up to play the Wolverines.
You have to get Ohio State fired up to play an early game in Bloomington, Indiana.
It was awful.
Not anymore.
No moss.
Not anymore.
Good for that, man.
It's an amazing story.
And you're right.
Hoosiers Part 2, coming to theaters soon.
Time now for three and out when we come back.
Who is the next program to pull off in Indiana?
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Time now for three and out.
So Indiana, maybe the most improbable national champion in football ever.
For three and out this week, give me three programs.
Mark, I'll start with you.
That could be the next Indiana, meaning teams that are used to losing have really bad records
and can somehow rise from the ashes to become national champion.
You can do it a little bit tongue-in-cheek if you want.
The losing-est?
Legit picks out there.
Losing his teams.
There's a lot to pick from out there, my friend.
Northwestern is currently the losing-est football program.
All right are we going to Northwestern.
If Indiana could do it,
Northwestern should be able to do it, right?
All I need is a signetia and Fernando Mendoza
and somebody to maximize their whole team, like Coach Meyer says.
So, yeah, Navy.
Varendabille sucks, right?
They got better over time.
For sure?
They got better over time.
We've kind of gotten over to the winning side.
So maybe they can continue to go, hopefully not, because I hate Varendabille.
But losing his teams, who knows?
Navy, Varendabille, who else sucks?
There's a lot of bad teams.
That's okay.
We like Navy.
So we'll go Navy.
They're one of the losers teams.
Let's go Navy.
All right.
All right.
So you go Northwestern Vandy Navy.
Navy. All right, coach, give me a team
that's like looking down to deep well but might be
able to, you know, pull some... Yeah, I'm
going three. I've never gambled on
sports because I'm not allowed. I was never
allowed, but was it fan duel? I want to
bang out. I already didn't know. Yeah.
I didn't do it yet because I don't know how, but Rice,
Rutgers and Wake.
And why not, man?
We're going to get you...
We're going to get you signed up for Fan duel.
We're going to throw a hundred bucks on.
And we're going to throw 100 bucks on Rutgers
and get you 100,000. So 100 gives me
100K?
Yes, sir.
That's enough.
But I'm going to say Rice.
I have no idea about Rice.
No idea about Wake, but I'm going to throw them out there because if Indiana can, they can't.
But I will say Rutgers because Greg Shano, who I'm biased, he's a great friend and a great football coach.
Rob, he had him in the top five in the country at one point.
Oh, six.
For sure he did.
So why not?
So why not?
Why not?
Well, Shiano.
Here's the deal, right?
In this day and age of college.
Yeah.
He never said Google me.
I'm going to call him here to me.
and tell them to say that. Yeah, that's not Shiano's way. Well, so here's the deal, right? In this day and age, you got to be in, you got to be in one of the big conferences, right? I think tradition helps if you have some form of tradition in your university of winning. I think Northwestern can pull it off. The losing his program in college football right now, they're in Chicago, they're investing. They got the new stadium coming up now. When Fitsy was there, they had like every three years, Northwestern was a problem.
in the Big Ten.
They can pull that off.
They've seen it.
They've been that close.
To your point,
Rutgers has been that close under Shiano.
I'll throw another one out you.
Lance Lypold at Kansas.
Yeah.
Watch out for Kansas.
Remember, two years ago we were saying,
here come the Jayhawks.
They had a lot of energy and a lot of momentum.
They're doing the stadium expansion as well.
They have winning at that university,
courtesy of the basketball program,
just like Indiana had winning at the basketball program.
Put your money.
There you go, Fandu'll go get it, Rob.
Don't tell us about it. Do it.
There you go.
There you go.
You got that money on your chest.
You got that shit on your chest.
Sanders on your chances.
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So the season, sadly, is over.
Time now for our way, way, way, way, poorly researched early.
2020-26 college football playoff championship pick.
I don't think a lot of people had Indiana on their sheet last year.
It was a lot of Ohio State repeating, right?
It may be Penn State and SEC getting their mojo back and getting that national
title after being shut out two years in a row, now three years in a row.
So, Mark, right now, our way too early, 26 national football champion is...
Oh, the fighting Irish and Marcus Freeman.
What?
CJ Carr coming back
They've been there
They was at the national championship
No love though
No love
They was at the national championship
Two years ago
They probably should have been in a playoff
This year
They have experienced
They know how to win
The schedule ain't scary
As we typically know with Notre Dame
But they have Wisconsin Rice
Michigan State
Purdue North Carolina Navy
Miami
Rematch
Boston College BYU
SMU Syracuse Stanford
that's got to be a playoff schedule, right?
With CJ Carr coming back, Marcus Freeman at the helm,
knows how to handle success, knows what it looks like to win,
got them to the national championship two years ago,
Notre Dame way, way, way, way, extremely way too early.
Because, you know, I don't give a piss about nothing but the tie.
And I'm always driving with the tide.
Okay.
Coach, who's your way too early national team?
Returning quarterbacks at Ohio State, Notre Dame, Oregon, Texas, and A&M.
I can't go Texas.
I've been, every year I try to pick them,
A&M, I don't know enough about.
Oregon, Dante Moore, Ohio State, Notre Dame,
Ohio State's got the first rugged, rugged,
scheduled they've had in a minute.
But I'm going to go Oregon.
I'm going to say Oregon, Dante Moore,
coming back.
Big Ten wins it again four years in a row,
and they're going to follow the pattern set
or the template set by the last three national championship.
It's got to stop.
It's got to stop.
Maturity, experience, grown-ass men in a locker room, Oregon.
And they had a young roster this year, particularly at some skill spots.
So those guys have grown up.
Yeah, I think that's a great call.
You usually take Texas.
So you're not going to do it this year.
I'm going to take Texas because it feels like the Longhorns are similar to the Buckeyes a couple years ago.
As you mentioned, you got to have that.
You don't have to have that returning quarterback.
I feel like it certainly helps in Arch Manning.
Finish the season strong now, guys.
Over 3,100 passing yards, 26 touchdowns, seven interceptions.
Here's my one request to the good folks in Austin.
let Arch talk.
Like put him in front of the media.
Let him do stuff.
Let him be Arch Manning.
Quit putting him in this little cocoon.
Release Arch Manning to the wild.
Let him be the Arch Manning that I think Texas fans want to see and want him to be.
They added Cam Coleman, the number one receiver in the transfer portal from Auburn.
They already have Ryan Wingo.
They need to find the running game, right?
That wasn't up to snuff.
So they need to they need to fortify up front.
they need to find that that.
They got a dog.
They got a dog true freshman coming in from a shamanite down here in Florida, a tailback.
So maybe that's the answer.
And they brought in Will Mustchamp.
They brought him back former coach and waiting.
He's going to be the defensive corner.
So I go Texas.
I go Texas.
Coach, you go Oregon.
And Mark says, fight in Irish.
But I also don't give a piss about none but the tide.
Don't never get that twisted.
I got it.
Some early numbers, though, just to put this in perspective,
of Ohio State, Notre Dame at plus 650, Indiana to run it back at plus 700.
That's going to be a lot to ask of them.
There's Texas at plus 750.
Coach your ducks at plus 900.
And finally, well, there's Georgia at 1100.
The fight in Lane Kiffins at 1400, A&M, Texas Tech, and Miami.
So a season is done.
We're not done.
Triple option goes throughout the college football season.
Can't wait to continue the conversations about what
transpires in college football after the games are done.
Because as we learned last year, guys, we were not short of topics.
There was so much to talk in college football throughout the season.
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