The Triple Option - Napier Fired, Marcel Reed & Todd McShay Join, Top Openings and Week 9 CFB Picks

Episode Date: October 22, 2025

Another week, another buyout. Urban Meyer, Mark Ingram II, and Rob Stone react to Billy Napier being fired and the false narrative that schools don't have any money. They then get into the new age at Florida before Mark gets musical with his Deuce Deuce Dawg of the week. (Lots of LOVE this week) Then 2026 Draft was supposed to be the gilded era for Quarterbacks, our draft expert Todd McShay of The Ringer dispels those rumors and lines up his top running backs heading to the NFL. A grown Tiger would scare some people, but it doesn't scare QB1 at Texas A&M and Heisman candidate Marcel Reed. He talks about his journey and the Aggies goals for this season. The guys then go Three and Out and rank the top college jobs before making their week 9 picks between Ole Miss-Oklahoma, BYU-Iowa State, and LSU-Texas A&M. New episodes of The Triple Option drop every Wednesday. Make sure you’re subscribed on YouTube and following on all podcast platforms. Also make sure you’re locked in on social @3XOptionShow on all platforms for highlight moments, bonus content, and to engage with the guys and the TO community. (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tripleoptionshow.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠) The Triple Option is presented by Wendy’s. Wake up with Wendy’s breakfast ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.wendys.com/breakfast⁠⁠⁠⁠ Thank you to our additional sponsors Google - No matter what question comes next, you can just ask Google. ⁠https://www.google.com/gasearch?udm=50&aep=46&source=25q4-US-JAG-YouTube-NCAAPo⁠ FanDuel - Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://Fanduel.com/TripleOption⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to download the app and take advantage of a 50% Profit Boost today! #CollegeFootball #Florida #TexasA&M #Aggies #NFLDraft #OhioState #Alabama #PennState #Gators Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Yeah, I have so much time. I'm flying cross-country and wet drawers. Thank you, Mark, Ingram. Appreciate that. I offered you some dry draws. Yeah, you said your boys or something. I don't want my boys messing with your boys, man. Fresh pair of drawers, man.

I'm telling you, I had a fresh pair for you. Light it. The triple option is brought to you by Wendy's. Wake up with Wendy's 2 for $3 breakfast. Great to have you back here for another. edition of the triple option, Mark Ingram the second. Doose, deuce, deuce. You got sleeves on.

He got sleeves on. I got sleeves on today. Dang, right. Is it chilly in Florida now? No, I'm tripping. I ain't got the arms out. What happened? Who are you?

This morning, too. Oh, you must be de-thawing from that little pool party you had in Provo. Dang, coach. Just going on record. I had a good workout too this morning, Rob, so, and Mark, but I'm wearing sleeves. I was wearing sleeves. Just going on record. I think I had some expired overnight oats, so this is going to be a great show.

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We love all of that stuff. And the best stuff we're going to put in on the show. All right. Are we ready to talk about? about what transpired and the lies that are spreading on any given Saturday. So the lies. Laud. Laud.

It feels like every Sunday I wake up to a notification that another major college football program has moved on from their head coach. This Sunday was no exception. One that we had frankly all been kind of expecting, and it finally came down. Florida parting ways with Billy Napier following an error-filled two-point win, win over Mississippi State. Why do they do it? Because they have a buy before their next game, Georgia, the world's largest outdoor

cocktail party in Jacksonville. So Napier, 3 and 4 this season, 22 and 23 and 4 seasons, sub-500, in SEC play, 12 and 16, 5 and 17 versus ranked teams. He's owed $21 million. Half of that due mark in the next 30 days.

And coach, I thought money, I thought money was tight with these college football programs, but they just keep writing these shots. They go find that money stoner. They find it. They're digging it. You know, I apologize to Mark Engram publicly here because I was wrong.

Mark, you were right. You said that. And the one advantage I probably have over a lot of people is I sat in those budget meetings for years and years and years and a year end. And then also, you know, at some places, you know, how the state really, we had some budget meetings. I let someone else handle that. They would come meet with me and talk about budget.

But in the last year, I've had conversation with people. And I have also talked to a couple coaches that were, you know, fired. And then they were, here's the point is that the fiscal responsibility of a university administration at some point. I'm sure there's checks and balances. I don't know if there's deep endowments that somehow they grab a hold of. but I was told verbatim that there is no money at this particular school or schools. And I had several comments because I haven't asked a couple guys because I had a theory that the residual money that was left over

from these big television contracts and went to coaches' salaries and went to facilities. And I asked in the summertime, I said, now they said the days of the monstrous facilities are over and the days of buyouts are over. And I shared that with you guys and also our audience. And I was wrong. I was wrong because there seems to be, you know, a waterfall of coaches getting released and with big numbers behind it. Even, I mean, you can say like Alabama Bremen, what was that 2.5, Rob, you said?

UAB, Trent Dillfer parted ways, $2.4 million. One of your former schools, Colorado State, just parted ways with a good guy. Jay Norville did really good work at Nevada and Colorado State as well. That's that's one and a half million. Those are the smallest numbers out there. But for those programs, that's big. Those are big numbers. There's two commas involved.

It's a big number in this guy. Do you have the numbers in front of it? Because I want to go with, after you say these numbers, I think this will give us a good foundation what I'm about to say. At the top of the list right now is James Franklin, 49.7 mil. Billy Napier, 21.2. Mike Gundy at Oklahoma State, 15 mil. Sam Pittman at Arkansas, $9.8 million.

Deshawn Foster, UCLA, 6.43, Brent Pry, Virginia Tech, 6 mil. Oregon, Oregon State, Trent Bray, 4 million. Trent Dilfer, UAB, 2.4, Colorado State, J. Norville, 1.5. You put that, you put that all together, guys. That's over 116 million. That's just for those dudes. And that's just what they owe them. That's what those guys are getting. Just those dudes. Not their assistants. Not their staff. Not the buyouts that they have to get with other. coaches. So here's my comment. So what I was told, Mark, is that the days of the massive facilities and expenses on things that are kind of silly, be quite honest with you, the, you know, $30,000 locker in the locker room are gone and the buyouts are gone. So I was wrong.

And there's either one of two reasons I was wrong. I think you were wrong, coach. I think you were lied to. Yeah, I lie is a hard word. It is, but. But I think there might be a truth issue or where they're also, you know, I don't know. I mean, here's some facts, so, Mark. I had a friend that was fired at a job, and he would constantly go in with his athletic director, administrators, and say, I need more money to pay my coaches. And the typical answer, not me,

here's what's cool about my career, Bowling Green, Paul Crabs, Chris Hill at Utah, Jeremy Foley at Florida and Gene Smith at Ohio State. I never felt that way, because first of all, I was very conscientious about that, and they gave us whatever we wanted. But I had some friends, and the typical answer is we don't have the money. We don't have the money.

We don't have the money. They fire the coach, and they bring someone in, and it's double the salary that they paid him and double everything else. You look at North Carolina. It's well-known. We don't have money. We don't have money. And then all of a sudden, bam.

So the actual is number of money. I was told again that the big buyouts are over. I shared that with you. Again, that's not true. Yeah. Because what's happening is this is one of the biggest years and most resources being spent on buyouts. You just shared that with them.

So you used the word lie. I don't know if I'd go that far, but as Mark Ingram said, there is money. And so for everybody worried about these universities surviving, I'd say don't worry about it. I'm not, I mean, not that I, my opinion matters. I agree with you like the day and age of the facilities, because that's how you used to recruit and appeal to the recruits, you know, by having those facilities, by having these massive amenities that they get to enjoy when they're in college.

But now they're not going for that. They're going for, you know, what can you offer me in the NIL? So I think those days of the facilities, I think those are going to dwindle down, dwindle a little way a little bit. But when you have a coach and you have a program that has a standard of winning and you are not winning, they are going to find a way to get that money. They got big donors. They got, I don't know where they get the money, but they're going to find a way to get that cheese.

Well, that's what do you think they get the money? I'm asking you guys. They got donors and supporters of the program that can't take it anymore. That just cannot stomach it anymore. They're like, I can't do this anymore on Saturdays. I'm writing a check to help y'all get this buyout money. Another thing to consider is when your football team is bad, it impacts your university in a multitude of ways. And when it's flying, your school benefits from it, right?

Admissions numbers go up. Applications go up. You're able to raise tuition or whatever. It is a more desirable place to be. Your program is doing well. More eyeballs are on it for television, for sales, for marketing. When they are down and when they are low, they're not pulling in that money. And I think that's one reason why a lot of ADs are looking at their bottom line.

I'm like, all right, maybe I need to take this hit because if I don't do it, that hit actually gets doubled because of how it's going to impact everything that what a university really stands for. So I think that's in play as well. And coach, you're talking about these astronomical numbers that we see. And I talk about how every Sunday there's another coach. Listen, there's three really big programs right now that are teetering, teetering, debating, talking about what they're going to do with their head coach position. Mike Norvell at Florida State, Luke Fickle at Wisconsin. Ironically, both of their athletic directors came out saying, hey, we're going to support you through this season.

Let's push pause there. Okay, put yourself in the, and let's get real deep here. Hold on. Let me throw one more in there. I'm sorry, coach. Lincoln Riley at USC. Wow. There's angst.

No chance. No chance. They'd say no chance for James Franklin. I get it, coach. I understand. Oh, you're right. You're right. But that loss to Notre Dame hurts.

And guess what? USC is pretty much out of the playoff picture. Again, USC people are saying, what have we paid for? Okay. What have we paid for? We presented the picture, but now let's go deep. And I, like I said, I can probably do this better than most. So, all right, you make a decision.

You are a goal coach, you know. You make a decision. You go back in your office. You have a Rolodex, you know, on your phone now. It used to be a Rolodex. Yep. Do you start calling the bees, the billionaires, or the hundreds of millionaires and say, all right, here we go.

I'm going to make a decision. I need a check for 20. I mean, is that, I don't know this. I'm trying to think, what in the hell do you do? Or I need 70 million dollars. There's not a line item on the, you know, there's budgets. You got income, you got revenue and you got expenses and that's, I think, economics 101. But when there's a line item that doesn't show up and all of a sudden that's got a bunch of zeros behind it, eight figures behind it, is that a phone call to a person and I'm asking you to?

It's several phone calls. Here's the phone call. We have to make this change. Your high net worth millionaires and your billionaires. And you guys, hey, I know I haven't, I haven't, I know you've done a lot for this program, but I need you do something else for this program. I need all you all to split this. I'm going to throw another example.

If I was a high net worth guy like that and someone called me, I'd say, go screw yourself. You made that bed. You go sleep in it. Yeah. But I can't imagine doing it. My guess is that phone line. is going the opposite way, where it's those big donors getting into their AD's head, getting into their school president's head, getting into trustee's heads and saying,

you've got to make a move. You got to make a move. I'll do it. I'll offer it. I'll fall on that sword. You know where else? Listen, you've got to find the money trail, right? And what is one of the biggest sources of money in college athletics right now?

College football? TV contracts. TV contracts. TV contracts for college football. But what does that have to do with it? I bet, listen, it would not surprise me in the least if some of these people come back to the table and say, let's time to renegotiate. Let's instead of the negotiating window is three years down the road, let's do it right now. And guess what? There's a lot of TV networks you're saying,

but listen, the NFL has has these networks captive, right? Hey, we're going to renegotiate. You got it. When do you want to do it? Right? Because the NFL is the lifeblood to a lot of sports organizations out there. and college football is now tucked right under NFL, and it would not surprise me in the least as some of these conferences are getting some pushback from some of their ADs, from some of their presidents, saying, hey, let's renegotiate a couple years early because we need some funds ASAP.

I just keep thinking this out. So I get the team that has 110,000 people, every home game, hundreds of thousands of active alumni. That's called Penn State University in Florida. But Alabama, Birmingham, you know, I was at Bowling Green. If you said, hey, we have a line item right now for $4.6 million, I was fighting for training table. Right.

I went out and spoke, how about this? I spoke to three subway companies in a row that gave me $2,500 because they had to help buy t-shirts for my team. And they just, now, I understand that was a diff that was like 150 years ago, but was it really? No, it was. I mean, this is mesmerizing to me because I sat in those damn meetings. I don't know where the money coming from, Coach. I have no idea, but they're getting it. Or you can't fire your coach and pay $40 million, $20 million, $16 million.

What you said, Napier, is he, they owe him half of it by the end of the month? You know, I wonder if we get a retired. You imagine getting that letter. Dear ma'am, sir, owner of this house, you now have 30 days to cough up, what is it, half of, his buyout is $21.2 million. Yeah, so he's got to cough a little. He gets to check for 30 days. It's 10 and change, 11 inms.

Thank you, kindly. Thank you, Kyle. Now, here, let's, I'm not, because I used to see the line item of scholarships, Mark, and Rob. You know, you have to pay the university, but that's something he called paper money. That's from an institution back to the institution. This is not.

This is cold, hard cash going to someone, like you said, within third, that's one of these, Mark. I'm handing you a check. It's not training table. It's not where they kind of reshuffle around money. This is mind-boggling. So I want to get to one other thing on this, which throws me off. And I know what your response is going to be, Coach.

I know what you're going to say. And I think when some pushback comes, you're going to be like, maybe you're right. These buyout numbers are ridiculous that are put in these contracts. At some point, don't you think these universities are going to say, we can't keep putting numbers that big in? Your pushback, of course, will be what, coach? I'm not going. Correct. And there's Jimmy's sections of the world that protect his coaches, and he's good at what he does.

Crazy good. I understood, understood, but at some point I think... It seems like every single coach has this buyout. Every single coach? Let's go on that. I think that ceiling goes down. You're Penn State and your Florida. Those are the two big dogs right now.

Yep. You better hire a home run. I don't give a shit what it costs. you better do it because like Mark, I'm all in on Mark, Mark, you're right. I mean, there's no fiscal, go, do buy, pay them. Yeah. Because if you win, then it's all good. But, you know, obviously if you lose, it's all good too because I just pay them off.

I mean, what the hell is going on, man? The best thing you could do is be a really good coach, get paid a lot of damn money, and then sucks so bad where they fire you in the first year or two. And they owe you $40 million. Where do I sign up? One of the cool things about coach is the places you've been, when there are coaching changes, I know those schools, whoever they are, whoever those schools are, whether it's a loan, they reach out to you, right?

They want your input. They want your intel. You had that in a different type of way on Sunday when you got a certain call from Gainesville. Yeah, well, my former player at Colorado State, and then he coached with me a bowling. Glenn, coached with me at Utah in Florida. Billy Gonzalez is now the interim coach at the University of Florida. And I'm on, I don't know, hold number six,

I think it's par four. What's your score about this time? I was doing good. Had a good day, Mark. I won a couple bucks too, but that's pretty good. So he calls me and he says, kind of whispering, he said, do you got to admit? I said, sure, are you okay?

You guys have got to tell someone what's going on? And he said, you know, I'm the interim coach now at Florida. And I was like, whoa. And he says, please don't talk about it, which I didn't. And then he said, you know, can we talk about, you know, I have a staff meeting coming up. I have a team meeting coming up. And I was like, I mean, I was taking a deep wrestling. I got to help my guy here.

And this is not easy. So, and he's a heck of a coach. And he's been at Florida, I think three different occasions. He was there with me, Dan Mullen, and now Billy Napier. And I said, the first thing in the moment. importantly, and he, you know, don't you dare take a shot at the previous, don't stay completely away from that. And then we came up with the, and both of us just having a conversation, which colleagues and friends would do, is that the most important thing are these darn players

and everything Mark is going to be on film. You could, a player can ruin his draft stock or his career by screwing around right now, or not, or not getting coached. So all these coaches, which, I mean, it's stressful. They're all looking for jobs now, but you have to be loyal to those dudes that wear the helmet and the shoulder pads because you know that, Mark, all of a sudden, you're, say you're not Mark Ingram,

but say you're that guy that's that second, third, or fourth rounder. Alston, you screw around for the next six games, you go free agent, pal. So, and it's not just on him. He better be coached. So I said that we, you know, we all have a job to do.

We're being paid by the University of Florida, but most importantly, And Billy, you know, he, I think that was, I don't know, I wasn't in the room. But the message is, these players got to get coached and coached hard for the next six weeks. Yeah. Because that's unfair for that, for that. I'm not talking again about Mark Engram, but even Mark Engram's going to get caught. What are we talking about?

Coach, those coaches are fighting for jobs too, right? Those coaches are looking for their next. Every single one of those players. But the point is those coaches got to really put eagles, and they'll be at those kind of places you'll, but. Here's the other thing, and I'll let Mark count. Everything is on videotape. Every play that player plays, and then also every, say you're at offensive line coach at Florida,

you tell me if I was going to hire someone, I'm going to watch that film and see if he coached those last five, six games. And you can tell probably in about 30 seconds if they have or have not. Yeah. Yeah. But like you said, coach, it's tough, difficult for everybody involved, but especially the players who committed to that coach and staff, that committed to that university to stay there and to play there.

So it's like, I love your mindset of, you know, make sure that you're taking care of the guys with their helmet and their shoulder pads on because they didn't choose this. They didn't choose to have their head coach fire. They're playing hard for their head coach. Now, they haven't had the success that the program is used to having and that the sex that the program wants.

But in the day, these players committed to play for these university, committed to play for these coaches. So to make sure that you're coaching these guys, they'll put them in the best position to be successful. I think that's the priority. And there's a great example out there right now, UCLA. Tom Skipper. Yep.

And also, I think, what was it, Alabama, Birmingham, right? They wouldn't beat Memphis. Somebody told me. Yeah. So there's some good storyline out there right now of saying, you know what? Let's go coach our ass off. Everyone's being evaluated at this point, coach. Coaching staff, players, administration.

So you want to put your best foot forward because everyone is being evaluated, especially in tough times. So a lot of talk about Florida right there, Gator fans that are listening. watching. Did your school make the right call? Let us know in the comments section. Send us some questions as well. We pivot now to the deuce, deuce. Dog of the week, Mark's Player of the Week. This one was easy, man. Jeremiah Love was saying, I love a rainy night by Eddie Rabbit. I think that's... Jeremiah, love. We love some Jeremiah

love. Man, just what a great human being, but a straight baller and a straight a straight dog on the field. Man, my wife had a video she was recording last week of me. Does she? Yeah, she had a video. She was like, listen to you doing your podcast. I'm like, that's the dog of the week.

Aura, all right, all right. You record me now? No, but Jeremiah love, man, back to the deuce do's dog of the week. He just bawled, man. I thought in a rivalry game against USC, a must-win game for Notre Dame, they're at home. the weather's a little wet.

It's a tough matchup, a rivalry matchup, and he goes for 261 scrimmage yards and a touchdown averages nearly 10 yards per carry, another 37 yards through the air, 260 scrimmage yards? Just put the team on your back? You feel me? A stoner?

If that ain't a dog, I don't know what it is. Put the team on your back. Mark, is that your wife right behind you, slide in trying to record your Deuce Do you Stug of the Week? Do I see her right behind you? right behind you? Chelsea, are you around here? She's not there. She's not there. She's stealth like that, man.

Oh, she is. You got to watch out for those. Those people of that Ingram family, man. You got to watch out for them, coach. There's stealth. They sneak up on you. There's a lot of humans. There's a lot of humans. And those Ingrams don't care. They'll take you down, man. They don't ask questions.

They just make sure you're all right when it's done. That was your fresh take of the week. Presented by Wendy's. Wake up with Wendy's breakfast. Coming up next on the Triple Option presented by Wendy's. We talk all things NFL draft. with the great Todd McShay of The Ringer. Ladies.

Welcome back to The Triple Option presented by Wendy's, Rob Mark Urban, and as we are every month, we are joined by The Great, one of the best in the NFL scouting business, Todd McShay from The Ringer. You can find them on the McShay show on YouTube, Spotify, and wherever you get your podcast. Always good to see you, my friend. Sorry, Colgate cannot stick it to your spiders a couple weeks ago. Coach, you can start things off with the most prominent position. Yeah, first, one of my favorite people, Tom McShay, we used to do our little game day hit together down in Gainesville, Florida.

But this is the triple office. This is not Todd's show. So why do we have to be on his time? Todd, we don't work for you, pal. I built, here we go. Here we go. Yeah, exactly. Welcome to our world, Todd.

I cut my show short so I could get here on time, but I said I might be 10 minutes late so that I didn't take this from you. But here we go. We love you and great admiration. By the way, for those watching and listening, you know, before we hit the record button, coach is like, let's go.

Let's go. Let's go. What are we waiting for? Let's go. All right, Rob, let me and Todd talk here. There we go. All right, the number one position in all of sport, quarterback, I've been watching them all fall. You know, I've seen Arch Manning go from people saying projected number one to who knows where.

I've seen Beck, Carson Beck, throw four picks last week, which he had an interception issue with Georgia. I don't know if I see a one. There's been years where you see multiple ones. Todd, is there a one? Is there a first rounder in this group? I know they're going to be taken, but you've done this for a long time. Is there one of these? here's so I came into this year screaming about we might be entering the golden era the gold the gilded age the golden age of quarterback play and then we saw nussmeyer with the with the injury not looking like himself we saw archmanning struggle you know early on and trying to kind of get back on the level with him we we saw sellers get nicked up and then just not have the offense around him so a lot of these top guys have struggled kade clubnick

Keg Klobnik, it took a big step back. I thought he was going to kind of elevate this year. But then we'd see a backup quarterback come in and they can't do much with him either. So I'm looking at it this way. Honestly, and I'd like to make sure that I'm giving the right advice because unfortunately, and you've called me and screamed at me when you were at other places before. Nick Saban, when I went to, when his, when is unfortunately his secretary, when I'd get the call, I knew Nick wasn't calling me to, to, you know, check in on my

family and see what my plans are for Christmas. So, like, I'm used to it, but I also understand there's a responsibility to watch the tape, get information and get the right info out there in case anyone's listening and wants to make a decision off of it. I desperately want to see all of these guys go back to school for another year. Four of the top five guys that I've got in this list, the top four, all can play another year. and that's Dante Moore, who had five starts at UCLA.

He's not ready, man. He's not ready, but my goodness, he is talented. And with Will Stein developing him, like we saw with Bow Nix, like we saw with Dylan Gabriel, with Will Stein, give him another year and you can kind of do that, that rinse, refined, repeat in the off season, go back and you know how it goes, coach, look at all the mistakes, let's figure out what we did well, what are the areas we have to improve and come back for another year. I just did a study, and I'll just go through the way.

So it's Dante Moore. Dante Moore and Lenore's sellers are the two most talented quarterbacks in the country in terms of projecting to the NFL. Fernando Mendoza is not that far behind. All three need another year in terms of just game experience and growth. The player, this is a unicorn situation what's going on in Tescaloosa right now. Ty Simpson. Ty Simpson is actually playing like a number one.

Yes. and a guy that's in his third year as a starter. And I know his dad was a coach 18 or 20 years at Tennessee Martin. And so like he looks like a coach's son. But to be able to come in with Ryan Grubb in the first year and to operate this offense and see a lot of the same things you see on Sundays, that is rare, man. So Simpson's the one I've got my eye on.

But his best friend's Ryan Williams. Ryan Williams can't go until the 2027 draft. Why wouldn't you come back and get another year of experience? have you got it rolling like this right now. So the top four guys not only could, I think should be back in college football next year, which would be a great thing because you still got Arch coming back for another year. You still got DJ Lagway, whoever the new coach is there and super talented. So college football, maybe I was a year early on the whole gilden age type conversation with the

quarterbacks, but I went back and looked in the NFL urban, 25 starters in that league right now. that you would say for you know from the basement being like they're decent you can win enough with them starters to the elites of the 25 only three had fewer than 25 or fewer starts in college okay wow and those three all had early struggles in their career cj stroud after a good first year has struggled uh Caleb williams and and sam darnal it took a few destinations to get to where he's playing right now. The next three that were between 26 and 29 starts are just unicorns. Like it didn't really matter.

That's Mahomes, Josh Allen, and now Drake May, okay? Physically, they're just different than almost everybody else out there. Everyone else in the league, all of the good to great starters in the league had a minimum of 36 starts in college. Jane Daniels. Mark, I know you want to get to running backs. So good. I want to throw one more.

I want to follow up on the quarterbacks real quick. Go, go, because I might have a QB follow-up, too. You talk about your top guys being guys who need to possibly come back. And with this day of NIL, they're probably getting paid a lot of money, and they probably will come back. It's a luxury that they've never had before, right, Mark? Yes, it's huge. It's huge. But with guys who have to go to the draft, you mentioned probably the best quarterbacks in college football.

With guys who have to leave, who do you see being one of those quarterbacks? If I'm an NFL team, I need a quarterback. Who do you see being like the first guy, second guy off the board of guys who have to leave and come into the draft next year? It's, I think it's Garrett Nussmeyer. I still do. I watch his tape. If you go back and watch Ole Miss, his tape against Ole Miss, that is not Garrett. That's not Nuss.

Clearly his, whether it's an ab injury, and he's not, like, I was like taking the tape and I was like zooming in. is he wincing? Is he grabbing in anything? But he's fighting through it and that you love that about him. Yeah. But he I thought the South Carolina tape was a lot better. I haven't gone back to this week and actually watch the the coach copy tape.

I think he's starting to get a little healthier, but they can't protect him, man. Yeah. They lost a lot with that line. It hasn't been LSU caliber receivers. I mean, this is not the, the Jefferson and the, and the, um, Jamar Chase and the, you know, you know, go back.

Yeah, all the. So there's a lot working against him this year, but I do, I truly believe, like with his understanding of the game and with the way he can play in rhythm, he unfortunately, he doesn't have the arm of Baker Mayfield, but I think the way he plays the game is a spitting image. And so I think it will work in the NFL. I believe in it, but I don't, like, I'm not racing out to take him in the first 15 picks in the NFL draft because he's not the biggest. He's not the fastest.

He doesn't have the biggest arm. So he's going to have to overcome a lot of those things. and he's been the last two years he has been run down by injuries and that that smaller frame taking pounding carson back i talked about it on our show today it's like a toxic relationship right we've all been in that relationship whether it was middle school high school wherever college we're like you're dating someone and because i i know but it's like it's like this well every evaluator has a relationship with the prospect and there's highs there's lows When it's good, it's good, when it's bad.

You're defending, you're defending them to certain friends. You're, you know, you just can't, but, but anytime you're in a toxic relationship, typically you wind up taking a break and then, you know, you hear from all your friends. That person's not, not faithful to you and this person does that. And then, oh, but then you see, he does some, he or she does some good deeds. And then you kind of go, so that was the summer with me. I had to take a break from Carson back. And it was the Lamborghinis and the Lamborghini stolen.

It was the Cavender Twins and maybe some infidelity. But then, but then you start to hear the. reports that things are going really well in Miami good characters in first in the building last guy out he's more decisive he's throwing the ball accurately and you start to see it early in the season but with every toxic relationship you wind up back with that person you expect a different result and it's always the same result right and I feel like this last Friday night against Louisville there you go it was that moment where it's like yep and then after the game the interview and kind of putting it on his receiver it's like

Like the most important thing in a relationship is trust. Yes. And I think it's the most important thing as Urban you could probably speak to. As a coach with your quarterback, it's trust. And I just, it always feels like he breaks that trust for me. No, I'm tired. But, yeah, we've been doing a lot of talking, man. You know, we got to talk running backs, man.

This one, you know, that's my, that's what we do is to run up, the R.Bs. I love Jeremiah Love, Omar Hardy, Justice Haynes. He's done a great job transfer from Alabama. Jonah Coleman Last year was a great running back class What do you see in this running back class? There are any top 15, 20 picks How many first rounders?

And who do you like? Well, I think it was great to see Jeremiah Love come out. He looked angry, man. Yeah. He played with a chip on the shoulder. He did. It's like someone, you know, someone got to him.

It was good to see him finally take over a game that way and he'd been kind of building up to it. but they got a pretty good backup. And, um, Deary your price. Oh my gosh, price. Yeah.

He's going to be a good pro. Price is a starter like 99% of the schools in the country. 100%. And how they got him to stay there is like that, that was the best recruiting coup that they had the kickoff return for a touchdown. Man. The ability to stick his foot in the in the ground and just explode up the field. So they've got two of the best backs in the country there.

And there's two more at Penn State where we know what they are, but we haven't been able to see what they, they really are in any improvement or development because of that situation at Penn State. So there's four backs right there in two programs. But I'm with you. Like Haynes has been awesome to watch. I'm shocked every time I watch him that they let him out of Tuscaloosa. But that's a good fit schematically for what they're doing.

Jonah Coleman, I like a lot. Even Oregon, like this Whittington kid is now healthy. I'm not saying for like high draft pick. The running back class isn't as good as it was a year ago, but that was like almost record setting. And I think there's 25, 26 running backs were taken. But this year's group is starting to stack up. And I know it's not your position,

but the wide receiver group is a hell of a lot better. Coming into the year is like, as Jordan Tyson, there's Boston from Washington. There's a couple guys. But now Carnell Tate's an absolute dude. Todd, you got a big Thursday coming up. Your first big board is released. Very excited.

Top 30, right? Your top 30 guys? Top 32. Top 32. Top 32 coming your way on the McShea show, on The Ringer. He is Todd McShae. He's one of the best. You hear from him every month here on the Triple Option. Todd, as always, we appreciate the Intel. Always love seeing your face. Coming up next, we talk with Texas A&M's quarterback, Marcel Reed. track side. So being a fan for life turns into the trip of a lifetime. That's the powerful backing of Amex. Pre-sale tickets for future events subject to availability and varied by race. Turns and conditions apply. Learn more at amex.ca.com. This episode is brought to you by Peloton. A new era of fitness is here. Introducing the new Peloton Cross Training Tread Plus, powered by Peloton IQ, built for breakthroughs with personalized workout plans, real-time insights, and endless ways to move.

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First time since 1994, they've started that way. They are number three, They are led by their quarterback, Marcel Reed, who joins us right now. Just off the practice field, Marcel, right? Oh, yeah. Just got done. What did Coach Elko have you guys working on today? Yeah, today we worked on our four-point plays, went over some two-minute, and then end-the-game situations.

Marcel, thanks for joining us. Big fan of years, and I've always been a big fan of A&M. I'd never have quite understood why A&M hasn't taken that next step. You know, for a year, they haven't won a conference title in years and haven't won the national championship years, but they got it all. But now you watch you guys play, you play with an edge. You got a coach that I saw him throw a chair on the sideline the other day. I can feel an edge. Can you explain?

I mean, A&M has everything you need to compete at the highest level. You've been there now for a year or two. What's your thoughts on A&M and how close are you? My thoughts are, I think this team has a lot more together than it's than, you know, the past A&M teams. And, you know, me being a junior now, I've been in this locker room for a good bit and so have the other juniors that are in here. Like Tori New York is one of our captains, Dalton Brooke, who's safety for us and Ruben Owens, who's a running back for us. Like, we've all been here together. We all committed together.

So I think we all just ended up buying into what Elko had to bring to the table when he got here. and he's done a tremendous job, you know, as being our coach and our staff has done a tremendous job as putting us on the best situation if possible to win games. Man, Marcel, man, you got the Aggies bawling, bro, I think undefeated for the first time, and I don't know how long, but, man, you could tell that you're confident, you could tell that you're a leader,

you could tell that you're just kind of in your zone. It's your second year as a starter. How long did it take for you to feel like this was your offense, that this was your huddle, and you had command of the guys? Sure. I mean, once we got in the fall camp, I mean, I felt like we were going to be rolling. You know, I told a lot of people that this offense is going to be explosive, and so far we've proved it. And, you know, it's just us really going out there having fun, doing what we're close to do, and we do it every day in practice. So, you know, as long as we prepare the right way every single day, we're going to go out to the games competent and go have fun.

Last year, your coming out party was against LSU, who you guys have this Saturday. You came off the bench, led them to a W. After that, you've been the starter for Texas A&M. But now, now you're going to Baton Rouge, one of the legendary towns, one of the legendary stadiums. What have you heard and what are you expecting for what a night game at Tiger Stadium is all about? Yeah, so I've been to Baton Rouge before as my freshman year, but it wasn't a night game. I think it was 11 a.m., so a little underwhelming at that point. But I'm just really, I'm really excited to see what the atmosphere is light. You know, I've heard a lot of things.

I've heard the fans are crazy. They do all types of stuff. And then, you know, we're going to be running out of the tone. There's going to be smoking the air because they shoot fireworks. They're going to be playing. And there's going to be a big old tiger right there. Don't let them, don't let them shake you, dog.

I don't care about no tiger. Hey, he's big. He'd be on the cage. He'd be growling this stuff, dog. Sure, he can't get out. Good. You hope. Hey, if he get out, it's not just going to be us, night.

It's LSU players, too. Yeah. He ain't trained to kill one side. Facts. Marcel, man. We do a, I don't know, on Big Noon, bro. we do a, you know, we had a club Heisman, had you as one of my dark horses, man, go ahead and win the award.

How does it feel, man, to kind of get that kind of attention, man, from the media? Obviously, it feels great. I mean, that's a high honor. Obviously, you have it behind you. I see it there. You know, it's just me going out there and playing football, you know, being confident every week, you know, as long as I do that and do what I'm supposed to do, everything will show up in the end.

So you really just focus on going to want to know each week. And if I end up in New York, then I end up there. Yes, sir. You know, I saw I coached in the SEC for quite a while, and it was exhausting when you see every Sunday you come in after you put that one game to bed, what's coming down the road here. Tell the listeners and viewers, how do you keep your mind right? How do you keep your body right, knowing that, I mean, you're going to Baton Rouge,

then you got Missou, then you got Tech. You got all kinds, I mean, it's nonstop in that conference. How do you keep your mind and body right? Yeah, well, thank the Lord. We have a bi-week after this one. We're trying to hit that, you know, full steam ahead, going into Baton Rouge, try to get a W and then go into our bi-week. But it's definitely tough.

We've played this will be four SEC games in a row, I think. Four SEC games in a row. And, you know, that's not, it's not really great on the body, especially for the front P.F, front seven, you know, the O-line, D-line, like those boys, they bang. And, you know, the trenches are crazy up in the SEC. So coach does a really good job of taking care of our bodies, making sure we get in the training room and get treatment done, and just kind of taking loads off of us in practice just to make sure that, you know, we're ready to go on Saturday. But the SECZ is definitely a different beast when it comes to physicality.

That's what we talk about going on every week. So whoever's the more physical team is definitely going to come out on top. What's fun about this NIL age is doing some of the research on players and finding out, you know, who some of the people are that are sponsoring them. So I don't know if you guys are aware of this, but Marcel has a deal with a private jet company. Oh, E-N-G Aviation. Oh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

Yeah, like there's levels, like a grocery store. We were just talking jets earlier in the show. Now we're talking PJs. Yeah. What's your favorite craft? What is asked of you from ENG aviation, man? Hold up. I'm missing.

Y'all both have the same question. Go ahead. What is E&G Aviation ask of you for this deal, man? because this sounds like a pretty good deal because they introduce them to mark and urban to myself too when you're done i need that deal yeah um yeah no e and g really just asked me to kind of push their push their name out there um it's a it's an organ donorship group uh who you know i've done a couple of PR post for uh just to try to you know get organ donors pushed out to kind of the aggie family out here there's a uh hospital in houston houston houston methodist that does uh organs organ transplants

And, you know, I visited there, but, you know, it's really close to college station. So anybody who needs to find someone for an organ transplant or organ donor, it's a great place to go to. And, you know, everything of E&G is based out of Houston. So all their planes are in Houston. Their cars are in Houston. And, you know, they can fly these organs to different states or other people or driving in different states too. So, yeah, all they ask me to do is, you know, make a couple posts, kind of just push it out. there. And then I make a couple of appearance for them as well. Mark and I are dreaming of like

road trips to Vegas and the keys and whatever. And instead they're out there delivering organs and saving lives and doing doing good for people, Mark. You've got to be better, Mark. Man, we got to do better, man. But, you know, everybody can't be Marcel Reed. You know what I mean. Truth. No, but we appreciate you being on, bro. We know you're busy. We know you focused. We always do something with our guests, man. We've been firing off questions for you for 10 minutes. You can ask us any question you won't. You pick whoever you want. Ask any question you want and we go ahead and uh you know you be the you be the host you be the

interviewer for the for a minute okay okay hmm let me see hey hey who who oh who is the biggest trash talk on your team at alabama yeah it's probably ralando mclean He was a big middle linebacker. I don't know if you remember him. He was like a number, a top seven pick middle linebacker, number 25. He was about 6.5, 250. And he could, yeah, he could run. He could cover.

Smartest, one of the smartest players ever played with. And he was just nasty. He was a dog. He would talk that cash to you and be able to back a little to. Are you, are you a talker, Marcel, or you let others do the barking? I don't talk too much, you know, because, you know, I try to stay focused on what the next play call is, usually. I'll score a touchdown, I might say. I don't know if y'all saw the long run I had this past weekend,

but I had a long run that got called back. But I'm talking, shoot, I was fit out of it, 52 points on the board and sending them home. I'm talking trashing the fans. It'll be turning around. Yeah. It's going to turn around. There's a yellow mark on the ground.

People don't know that pain, dog. That's pain right there. That's that hurt. Yeah. It was a long word, too. I hit 21 plus. I'm tired. 21 plus 5 per hour?

21 plus. I'm tired. I'm tired of just thinking about that. I got to ask you, bro. One last thing before we let you go, bro. I love your game. I think we all do just how electric of a playmaker you are. We obviously know how important the quarterback position is,

being able to throw, being able to run, being able to make adjustments at the line of scrimmage. Who would you say you kind of like modeled your game off of, man, because you're a real dog, bro. I play with Lamar Jack. I see a lot of similarities. who would you kind of say you looked up to over the years, man? Ah, you're not going to like it.

Not going to like you. Who? Is it a Georgia guy? Cam, Duke. Ah! Or a Barner. Not Scam Newton. Nah, yeah.

So I, uh, C-So action play for my dad. Okay. So I kind of grew up. It's a good one to look up to. Cam was a dog, bro. Cam was a big. And I did, I did grow up at Auburn. I'm sorry.

Ugh. I did. Oh, man. All the love I have for you now. It's just going away now. Hey, bro, I'm not all for in a work. No, that's all good. It's all good.

It's big love, man. I'm a big Marcel Reef. Hey, Marcel, thanks so much for joining the triple option. Enjoy that trip down to Baton Rouge. We'll be watching. We'll be watching. We want some smack talk when you get in that end zone without a yellow flag, all right? I got you.

Don't let that tiger. Get you off your game. Watch out of that tiger now. I'm going to throw the ball at the tiger. Watch out there. And I think there's some angry grandmas out there that went after Coach Meyer a couple of years back. You say they get nasty out there, huh, coach? They get surly, man.

They get surly down there in the bayou. Marcel, thanks so much. Have a great Saturday. Enjoy the rest of your season. Thank you. Bless us, bro. Stay healthy, dog. Light it.

Welcome back to the Triple Option presented by Wendy's, Rob Stone, Urban Meyer, Mark Ingram, the second, Deuce, Deuce back here with you. Time now for three and out. We talked earlier in the show about the change in Gainesville with Billy Napier out. So we looked at the list, the growing list. of openings out there. Give me the top three job openings out there in your mind. Coach, I'll start with you. It's not even close. I think it's Florida. I had that same decision to make back in 2004, and I'm Irish Catholic Notre Dame. I still love Notre Dame. And not many people

know this story, but I was offered both jobs and many thought I was going to go to South Bend. but Florida is a better job and Florida is a better job because it's recruiting and it's also at the time of life when I have young kids at home and this is really important when you look and that's why I'm saying

it's ahead of Penn State is that within when you recruit at Notre Dame or Penn State Mark you're on a plane half the time you're recruiting when you're at Notre Dame because I did it as an assistant coach

you're recruiting Seattle, Los Angeles, Phoenix, Arizona, Dallas, Florida, the state of Florida, Georgia, New Jersey, in Detroit, and Chicago. At Florida, you know, it's your country? Get in a car. No. Miami.

Yeah, you're a 45-minute flight from your recruiting base. And I had two planes. They said you have a King Aaron and a citation that you can use. You'll be home at night. And I was like, this is a no, you know, other than my passion and love for Notre Dame, I will never sleep at home. I'm not going to see my kids playing. and I have the best talent in the country within three hours.

Within three hours of Penn State. From South Florida to the pair handle. Think about it. With three hours of Penn State, I mean, I made that drive. It's from State College, New Jersey. That's three hours by itself, and there's not a human being around there. So I think it's not even close that Florida is a top three, top four job in United States of America. Coach, real quick, is there a difference between a King Air and a citation?

Oh, yeah, yeah. King Air is the short rides, the citations, though. When I had to go to Atlanta, Citation, when I went to, Polk County, it was a King Air. King Air has the propellers on it, don't it? Yeah. The Citation. The propellers, the propellers scare me. They're safer, but.

Great plane, great plane. And then, and then third, private jet talk, sorry about that. Third, I'm going to go, you know, my, I'm going to give my sleeper before, probably the third. The third one is a tough one. Yeah, I agree. I love Virginia Tech. I think that's, I don't know enough about it other than when Beamer was there for. Frank B. We played down there when I was at Ohio State, one of the greatest atmospheres.

I don't know enough about it. Like I do Florida and Penn State. But the third's got to be Arkansas, doesn't it? It has to be. Even though, why in the hell are they in the SEC? They should be in the Southwest Conference. I know it doesn't exist anymore. Or Big 12 playing Nebraska, playing Texas, playing Texas A&M. Arkansas got that Walmart money, coach, right? That Walmart money, they got coach. Cal for basketball. They're not afraid to go big. I coached at that stadium.

Unbelievable place. And when I was growing up, Arkansas, when it was going on in Arkansas, that's a tough place. Yeah. Woo pig soe, whatever they freak they say. All right. Who pig suey? Honorable mention of Virginia Tech. Okay.

Mark, your top three job openings right now. Give me all our openness for one. We got to. I got to give you all your openings. Give me the openness, don't her. All right. Florida, Penn State. Oregon State, Arkansas, Oklahoma State, UCLA, Virginia Tech, Stanford, Colorado State, UAB, Kent.

I'm going Florida as number one. I'm going to go Penn State as number two. I'm going to go UCLA as number three. Wow. Why UCLA? I think they're in a hotbed down there in Southern Cal, man. You just have a plethora of talent in Southern Cal. I think, you know, they haven't been what they were, you know, of recent history.

But you talk USC, UCLA, you're right there. in that Southern Los Southern Cali area and I think like that's just a hotbed for town too just like Florida so

you know UCLA man they're in the Big Ten and they got a lot of you could possibly do some things and make some noise out there UCLA maybe that number three spot

because it could be Arbysaw could be Virginia Tech but I'm not going to go and mirror coaches freaking three so I got to go and pick a

yeah agreed and so since you listen to me and coach you go ahead and make your three now Let me see it, Stone. You know, you always like to go ahead.

Yeah, I did want to do this to you. I had some ideas. I had some ideas. I was going to go like the top three openings at places that coach has coached at. But I think you've only been at two of them, Colorado State and Florida. And then I wanted to mess with you guys with the sleeper picks, but I decided to actually follow the rules this week. So I agree with you, number one, Florida's the best current job availability out there.

Number two, Penn State is right there. Right. That number three spot is wild. It's really wild. Name a better job than Florida in the country. I want to hear it from you guys. Ohio State? It wasn't. I'd go Ohio State. I'd go maybe Bama. In 0405, it wasn't. Maybe Texas. I'm going to say it again. 06, 07. When you were there, there was no better there. There was no better job than Florida. When you were there. Agreed.

So I go Florida one. Penn State number two. They have changed. And the times of change is what's made. makes number three so hard, right? There was a part of me, guys, believe it or not, that wanted to say Stanford, right? Andrew Luckett at GM, ACC, C, winnable, right? We saw what Stanford did to Florida State late, late, late Saturday night. But, man, that fan base is just kind of apathetic. It always has been.

It doesn't have that history. It's had some great quarterbacks, obviously, Luck and Elway and whatnot. Those academic challenges, so that hurts it. UCLA, I never understood living here in L.A. why UCLA is not bigger and better. You know, they figured it out in a gazillion of their Olympic sports, but football lately has been a tough one. But I'm going to Virginia Tech Coach, and you mentioned it, right?

They have shown that they can win there. Again, the ACC is winnable. Fertile recruiting area, that Norfolk, Newport News, Hampton area. Oh, man. A lot of talent. A lot of talent. A lot of talent. If you can pass in there, if you can patch yourself back in there,

passionate fan base, even as they're struggling, they still have that amazing fan base, and they still start every God dang home game with Enter Sandman. Like, if you're a coaching candidate and you're like, hey, let's go check out the field. Let's go see what's going on. They should be blaring Enter Sandman as that coach is making the walk through the tunnel to get into an empty stadium just to take a look at it. And I'd be like, pen, paper. Let me, pen and paper.

Sign in right there. I think Virginia Tech could be a really, really sneaky good pick. and that's why it was an honorable mention for you, Coach. Time now for two-minute drill. Two-minute drill is brought to you by Fandul. Visit Fandul.com slash triple option to download the app and take advantage of a 50% profit boost today. We're going to talk some of the big matchups this week.

I have BYU up four spots to number 11 this week. They're at Iowa State Cyclones, home favored by two and a half, over under 49 and a half. If you're Kalani Satake at BYU, I think there has to be this fear coach in the locker room of a letdown week. You know, all the high, all the excitement leading into that holy war. The Cougars, another exhilarating win over Utah. They're the last unbeaten remaining in the Big 12. They're tied, not in first.

They are tied for first in the Big 12 with who, coach? B. White, no. Oh. Uh-uh. Coach, wheelhouse. Wheelhouse. No. Cisnetti.

Coach, where you went to school. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cincinnati is tied to top the Big 12 with BYU. I think Coach Sataki, the Cougars, they need to kind of fight through this week. Whatever it is, they got to fight through this week. They have a buy next week where they can catch their breath before a real gauntlet of games.

Texas Tech, TCU, Cincinnati. Cyclones, remember guys, as high as number 12 back in week four, two straight road losses. They're kind of, kind of sent them spiraling into their buy week. Rocco Beck, he has thrown for over 1,600 yards. Just nine touchdown passes with that revamped receiver core. It feels like he's dipped just a bit, a bit.

But remember that place. Remember that energy when we were there, guys, in week two, Mark. How did, how did Iowa State beat Iowa? Field goal, walk off. Walk off field goal. It happens again. Cyclones get the upset and elevate their big. No way.

How about that? I'm calling it. Wow. I'm calling it, Ames. You're on alert. Coach, we go to you. Third ever meeting between number eight, Ole Miss at number 13, Oklahoma, the Sooner's home and favored by four and a half, the over

under 50 and a half, coach. So last week on the playbook, on Big Noon, I did Ole Miss, and one of the best coach offenses I've seen, number one offense since Lane Kiffin's got there in a country. And I watched the Georgia game on the plane. the way home. They scored every time. They touched the ball until the 4-40. They got shut down. Until when they got shut down, they couldn't stop Georgia. I think this is one of the most intriguing games of the year because you have Charlie Weiss Jr. and Lane Kiffen, two of the best offensive minds in the game against, I think one of the best defensive minds in the game,

Brent Venables, coached against him. I think it would be phenomenal. OU's picked. I'm saying I'm going to take Ole Miss but the points, and I think it's a walk-off. Whoever has a ball last is going to win that game. But I take Ole Miss. I know it's only four and a half. I wanted to say this last week, Coach, the Oklahoma Texas game,

and John Mateer was like, there's no way he's going to play. Ah, he might be available. Now he's questionable. Now he's going to start. I think Oklahoma did themselves a disservice by playing Mateer. I think they should have sat him another week.

They wouldn't have been punished as much by the playoff committee, by the AP poll had he sat. He got the win last weekend, but the numbers aren't at that Heisman level where he was flying earlier. I hope that doesn't bite them back because I want to see Oklahoma do well,

but they've got a real tough stretch down the road. All right, Coach, thank you for that pick. Now we pivot to you, Mark. Number three, that's right. Number three, Texas A&M at 20th-ranked LSU. The home team, Mark, is won the last eight in the series and the Aggies on the road favored by two and a half over under

You want to do this for me or what? I mean, I was going to say that I was going to say that the whole team won the last eight. Dang. No, I'm just funny. I'm sorry. I was funny. But no, man, this is a... Is that why you throw me into pools?

I watch your back, stone. Watch your back. No, but man. A&L, man. They're the last undefeated team in SEC, man. And they've been playing really well. Marcel Reed is just a beast, man. He's playing at a Heisman level with Dark Horse.

I said he was a Dark Horse. And he really is. What he did last week, man. He's had three straight games with a pass and a rush TD. He had four total touchdowns, no turnovers last week. He has the players on the outside with Mario Craver and Casey Conception. They've had over 1100 yards and 10 touchdowns combined this season. Their defense, they've been giving up a lot of points.

They gave up 42 points of 268 rushing yards last week. But one thing that they do, do stone, they get off the field on third down, and they rush to passers. So A&M on the road, LSU, struggling a little bit. Nussmeyer hasn't been. Struggling a little bit? A little bit? He was supposed to be this year, struggling, can't run the football. The defense kind of keeping them in it, but not really with weeks.

Their star linebacker hurt. We don't know if he's going to play or not. I mean, I'm laying the points with A&M. I think they continue their hot streak. I think they stay undefeated. I think they go into Baton Rouge and night game, a tough place to play. I'm laying the points 2 and a half

Maybe buy the hook if you want But I like A&M to win this game By at least three Hey man If that happens Underlights and Baton Rouge Start putting some Coach Kelly better

Stop Coach Kelly better No where his security detail is Stirring all this shit up And all these coaches Oh Baton Rouge You know what Baton Rouge You know what Baton Rouge is saying

Right now coach That's Stoneboys right This is all on I'm gonna put that out This is all on stone There's all these changes are on stone Hey you're saying Another one's gonna be on a Topping block?

I didn't say on the block, but, well, maybe. We went from Lincoln, right? No way. I'm just saying. LSU, one of the places that they ain't going to deal with it too much longer. They're not going to do with that, man. Patience level is low in the by you. I used to say they don't have the money.

That's not true. I'm with you, Mark, whatever it takes. Coach, I don't know where they're getting the money, but they are going to get that money. They're not going to sit around and just take these. Doesn't have to be public records, too? Where does it come from? I thought that's, to me, it's amazing. Hey, coach, let's go on an investigation and let's go, we're going on a hunt.

Stone can do that. He's got time. Yeah, I got so much time. Yeah, I have so much time. I'm flying cross country and wet drawers. Thank you, Mark, Andrew. Appreciate that. Hey, I offered you some dry draws.

Yeah, you said your boys or something. I don't want my boys messing with your boys, man. Fresh pair draws, man. I'm telling you, I had a fresh pair for you. If you don't know what the hell we're talking about, go to the social medias and find out how Big Noon kickoff concluded last Saturday in Provo, Utah. Follow, subscribe, rate, rate us over on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast, as well as across social media at 3X option show. Please leave those questions and comments as well.

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