The Triple Option - The future of Spring Games, Syracuse's Fran Brown joins, & Texas 2025 Preview

Episode Date: April 2, 2025

Deion Sanders and Colorado are trying to change college football once again, this time it's in Spring Ball. Coach Urban Meyer, Mark Ingram II, and Rob Stone take a look at the failed proposal between Colorado and Syracuse to play each other in the Spring game and if it is something that teams should do in the future or if it is a disaster waiting to happen. Syracuse head coach Fran Brown ran off 10 wins in his first season in upstate New York, why did he see value in joining Coach Prime for a few days in Boulder? He breaks that down as well as the changes he is making for the Orange. Is Texas back? The guys then look into their Crystal Ball for the Arch Manning Era in Austin and debate if the Longhorns will be over or under 9.5 wins. #HookEm New episodes of The Triple Option drop every Wednesday. Make sure you’re subscribed on YouTube and following on all podcast platforms. Also make sure you’re locked in on social @3XOptionShow on all platforms for highlight moments, bonus content, and to engage with the guys and the TO community. (https://tripleoptionshow.com) The Triple Option is presented by Wendy’s. Head to the Wendy’s App To Get a $1 JBC or $1 Double Stack with Offer and Additional Purchase. https://m-wendys.app.link/marchmadness25   A big thank you to the rest of our sponsors: BetMGM Enter the March Matchups $250,000 Pick ‘Em free-to-play game.      Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER (Available in the US) Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY) Call 1-800-327-5050 (MA), Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-981-0023 (PR). 21+ only. Please Gamble Responsibly. Visit www.1800gambler.net (WV). Subject to eligibility requirements. Bonus bets are non-withdrawable. In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. See BetMGM.com for Terms. This promotional offer is not available in Nevada, Ontario, or Puerto Rico. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I think there's another landmine out there. Text A&M? Sure. They got their stuff smacked last year, didn't they? I know. They got their smacked. They got their booty cheeks clapped last year. Light it.

The Triple Option presented by Wendy's. Head to the Wendy's app to get a $1 JBC or a $1 double stack with offer and additional purchase. head to the Wendy's app to get a $1 JVC or a $1 double stack with offer an additional purchase. I tell you that music gets me going every single time. I don't know if it works the same way for coach as it does for Mark and myself. But man, we love that music. And this week on the triple option Syracuse head coach Fran Brown joins us we're gonna crystal ball year one of Arch Manning running the show at

Texas and should we save the spring game as always rate subscribe over at Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever it is you get your podcasts as well as across social media. You can find us at 3x option show new episodes coming your way every Wednesday on YouTube and wherever it is you find your podcasts. Say it Mark. mark light it don't light it Don't know what's not lit right now in a lot of in a lot of places The spring game is the traditional spring game is in trouble. This is just a Transition of stone. That's why you'd have modified or absolutely just you like that. I'm trying Man, that's why you the greatest of programs that have modified

programs that have modified or canceled their spring game. Ready? And this is just a partial list. Alabama, Arizona, Boston College, Cal. I went too fast. Cal, Iowa, Michigan State, Minnesota, Missouri, NC State, Nebraska, North Carolina, Oklahoma. Rolling on the O's right now. Ole Miss, Texas, UCF, and USC. Again, just a partial list. So our good friend, Coach Prime,

Deion Sanders there in Boulder has suggested, you know what, forget canceling. Let's go in the absolute opposite direction. Here's Coach Prime on wanting to play a different school in the spring. Spring game will be televised. ESPN 2 we broadcast spring game on the 19th. We got to sell this thing out and pack this thing because

the way the trend is going you never know if this is going to be the last spring game. I don't believe in that I don't really want to condone that I would like to play the spring actually I like to play against another team in the spring that's what I'm trying to do right now to have a competitive playing against your own guys kind of get monotonous and you really can't tell the level of your guys. Because it's the same old same way everybody kind of know each other. Towards the end, I would like to start like the pros. I would like to practice against someone for a few days then you have the spring

game and I think the public will be satisfied with that tremendously. I think it's a tremendous idea. Wow. I just want you to know it's a tremendous idea for me. We'll pat yourself on the back, coach. Brian. It has a really good idea, coach. Brian, thanks coach prime.

You know, who else thought it was a good idea? Coach Brown up in upstate New York in Syracuse. Unfortunately, the NCA didn't agree this year and rejected their proposal, but it is something that they will look to in the future. Coach, you've been on both sides of this, the NFL and obviously the college game. What are your thoughts on a college program playing another team in a spring game? Typical Dion. I mean, it makes you sit back and say what?

And then you're like, man, now what a hell of an idea. I would say though, and Mark, I'm really intrigued by your thoughts here. I did not do that. We did not have a summer trip. We were and then something got canceled. It was COVID year. So we didn't have a against another team. I was kind of excited to do it.

But the one thing that you always have to understand college boys are different than NFL men. And I'm not saying that disrespectfully. I'm saying we would always try to teach the better players are better practices, they stay up the non-eth, the guys that are fighting and, you know, God bless the guys that just aren't going into the bodies yet. They're on the ground all the time. And that's when you lose a knee. That's when you lose an ankle.

That's when, so great NFL teams and great college teams. And I had a few of those. They really knew how to practice. You're in a football position. You're staying up, you're playing with your hands. You're not wiping each other out. You're learning to play a position. You are competing, but you try not to put them in the winner-loser situations.

Because there's going to be plenty of times if you lose one player, then I mean, that's that that's very destructive to a team. You lose a great player and you're going against some other college team with some young kids, a Syracuse rolls in there and there's some 17 year old player that, you know, God bless him, he's trying to earn a starting spot mark. And he comes in or takes out your quarterback or he takes out a tailback, hits him right in the kneecap. You know, why did you do that?

You know, so, uh, I think it's a great idea. I I'd have to see it. I'd have to learn more about it. And my initial reaction is no, I agree with coach. I think, I think is an amazing idea. Actually. I think that it would be great for fans to be able to see two programs compete against each other in the spring.

I think it would draw a lot of attention. I think it would draw a lot of viewership and it's something that I'm extremely interested in, but on the contrary, you know, I also understand coach's sentiments here when you're in the pros. And when I, we played, I played, I had several joint practices against over the years, several teams. We did it with the Houston,

we did it with the Texans a couple of times, we did it with the Patriots a couple of times, and they were successful. They were successful joint practices. And then you go in and you play in the preseason game and it was successful and I think the main thing that made it successful was that like coach said having true pros that know how to practice who know how to compete at the high level at a high speed with high physicality but staying off of the ground because when you have bodies flying on the ground when you have bodies

you know you have to take care of each other to a certain extent. Yes, we are playing, but there is understanding here that, okay, we need to get everyone out of this thing healthy. And I think my co, I think the coach, the coaches did a great job of addressing their team. Like, hey, if there's a fight, you're getting out of here. Like if you get to a confrontation, you're getting out of here. We're not doing none of that. And there will be a fight. There will be a fight. So if you don't want to practice, all you got to do is first period swing on somebody. Yeah, yeah, you're out of here. But I, I think this is important, Mark, for people to listen though, that the difference between a 17 year old growing to his body and fighting his ass off at Syracuse to earn a starting spot in a Baltimore Raven practicing against a

Houston Texan, to me, that's your different ends of the spectrum right now. And I get it. I, I, it makes you think again, prime. I, first of all, I love prime as a person. We've covered it many, many times. I've known her 20 years, but that's outside the box thinking the question is, and I think we're going to have coach Fran Brown on why would he do that? Is this for recruiting?

Is this to gauge competition? Bingo. Bingo. I have us talking about Syracuse right now, which I'll check, check. Yes. But again, I think the purpose of my point was a 17 year old or 18 year old going into his body. Yep. There's a tendency for him to take someone out. They're going so frickin hard and God bless them. But also they land on the Achilles of a quarterback, they hit an ACL. And

I mean, I would lose my cookies. I mean, I'd be like, Yeah, now you just do that. Nice. Now you really understand that I go ahead. I would I would just push back because at the NFL, you know, you've got some rookies or undrafted players who are like, I have got to impress right now. And I've got to go above and beyond. And I, I know maybe that quarterbacks wearing that yellow or red jersey, I got at least Nick them. I got at least,

you know, be there. And I think that's the same college mentality. So there needs to be tremendous communication between the two coaches is what I would say. Right. Like, hey, we're going to run this type of offense. We want to run this type of defense. Hey, let's, let's kind of game plan how we're actually going to play this game. Lots of whistles, right. Like coaches need to be on the field, blowing the whistle when that play is dead or it's close enough to being dead. But I love it. And if you're Syracuse, you're Fran Brown and you're trying to make a name in the ACC, and by the way, you did a hell of a job in year one in upstate New York, keep it going. And there is no better PR machine in the world of college athletics right now than what Coach Prime is doing in Boulder. And if you can jump on the back end of that Cape, take it, man.

Take it for a ride. I think it would have been just a huge win for Syracuse, not only for that, but also it would give the opportunity to teach some of these young kids on how do we travel and how do we prep for away games, right? And then their first away game in the regular season isn't going to be such a shock as it typically would be. They're going to be like, all right, okay, we've done this already. I know how we do it. We've traveled as a unit. We went through walkthroughs as a team in a place away from our home. We took on an opponent in another arena in front of human beings already.

So when that first road trip comes up, maybe it won't be as jarring. I like it, Rob. I like it. I disagree completely, but I like it, Rob. I mean, that's great. I'm not trying to be mad. There's really, there's really... I know.

I know. I said this before, and Mark, this is, you'd appreciate this again. I just love hearing from a player about this. So we had the thousand rep club, 2000 rep club. When you hit a thousand competitive reps, you never really got to, you've got very minimal contact at all. And the way I always look at it is, you know, how many times you can get hit in that knee or that neck or the head or the shoulder before something

goes wrong, especially a high end player. When you hit 2000 reps, that means you started for almost two years or a two year starter in spring practice. You were one of these. You're, you're with me. Yeah. You'd, you'd have seven on seven and all that, but you would never be in harm's way and I would post it because I don't want sometimes you have conflict

on a team. Why is he sitting out? Well, it's easy. He's, you know, what the hell are you talking about? You're a two year starter pal. Yes. You know, you're, you're not get your shit going.'s easy. He's, you know, what the hell are you talking about? You're a two year starter pal. You know, you're, you're not get your shit going. Then maybe you will be, you know, I love it. You get fired up about that, but to a 2000 rep club, you know, that's the question.

Then sauce and this team rolls into town. Do you play your ones? I mean, there's something to this now. I mean, this is not, Hey, let's go play. Are you nuts? No, you don't say let's go. I'm not putting Mark Ringham just one high. You think I'm going to put his ass out there and some, you know, like I said, that 17 year old that just came

and he's, he's a, he's an early entry into college, his body and must say he's a bad player, but he's a bad player. He's not an experienced player for sure. You know, he's just not, he's just not grown into it yet. And he hits that kid in the ankle or the knee and you imagine, right. That's the risk, man. There's pros and cons to this. I think it's extremely interesting.

I think it's a great idea, but it would have to be a controlled environment. There would have to be, you know, meetings between the coaches on how we are going to have our players playing hard, playing fast, but taking care of each other and the coaches has to drive home the message like, Hey, listen, I don't need any superheroes out here, but I need you playing fast, showing me, you know, your assignment and how to do your assignment. So I think it's a great idea. There's pros, there's cons, there's risks.

You take care of your guys, but I think it'll be more for the development of the younger players and for the players who haven't, you know, been able to play, have experience on the field. So I think it's a great idea. Pros and cons. It's interesting. We're talking about it here. So everything is going towards the NFL model these days.

Everything. So why not incorporating, quote unquote, preseason exhibition, spring type games? Almost everything is going towards the NFL model. Well, the beauty of this conversation as we move towards a better spring game experience, which is your fresh move of the week brought to you by Wendy said, do the Wendy's app to get a dollar JBC or a $1 double stack with offer and additional purchases. We get to carry on this conversation coming up next on the triple option.

We're going to delve further into the spring football conversation with a guy we were just talking about the man who got us chatting his program here in April Syracuse football head coach Fran Brown joins us next. Welcome back to the triple option presented by Wendy's Rob Mark Urban back here with you before we take you to upstate New York and check in with second year head coach Fran Brown at Syracuse We want to note that this interview was recorded prior to the NCAA Rejecting the spring game proposal with Colorado between Syracuse. So without further delay, here's the head coach at Syracuse Fran Brown

I don't know man. Great to have you coach. Thank you. I know you're busy. What the heck did you do? Because my whenever I was coaching, I always wanted to win one more game than the previous year. You jump out and go 10 and three in your first win. What the hell did you do that for? You're supposed to ease into it coach. Congrats on a 10-win season though.

Appreciate that to be honest. It means a lot. And, uh, I would be first off, I want to tell you, thanks for what you've done in college football, right? You've done an amazing job. And, um, I watched that, uh, Florida documentary a lot of times, you know, and I appreciate what you've done, you know, those midnight workouts and different things that I nature coach.

Uh, I just appreciate you, man. It's a lot that I've was able to take from that and just to watch and to see how you build the program. And I meant a lot to be able to see that just thanks for what you've done in college football. I don't think you get enough credit for all the shit that you there. Excuse my language for all the stuff that you've done and went through. You know, you you paved the way for some dudes, man. I had a lot of head coaches come for money.

So thanks a lot. Well, I appreciate that. You know, Syracuse is in the headlines, obviously, one in 10 games and, and, uh, having a great season that you have. But also this is really intriguing. We're coach prime who I've known for 25 years. He says some wild stuff, but then when you think about it, it's actually makes a lot of sense.

And he did it again. He said, let's compete against another team. You raised your hand and said, let's go play. Basketball has been doing it for years, right? And then other sports go do it. They all go other places and travel and do it. And people even go and work out and train at other facilities. It's just no one's ever thought about let's compete against them. Everyone worries about getting hurt and I think nowadays they worry about the portal. A lot of things that I'm not worrying about and I think because of like God's always doing something,

I had two practices after the spring game. So because we was already gonna practice two times after the spring game, so things just kind of set us up where this will work. And I was like, why will we not go out there and do that to be able to play against Coach Prime in Colorado? And I see that they're building the program. They've just lost a real good quarterback. We lost a real good quarterback. Both teams is trying to find out where they are. And sometimes the best way to find out is to go against other people, being able to compete against other people

when it doesn't necessarily count record-wise, it'd account for me, Pry-wise, and it'd account for him because we're both competitive. But in the same sense, we can learn a lot from it. We can learn about our team. And I think our coaches get to learn some things from their coaches. He got some fine coaches on his staff, and so do we.

So I just thought it was a good mix in that. And then financial literacy, they do an amazing job being able to pay their players and things of that nature. And I know I'm doing a lot of stuff that I would like for Coach Primeman to be able to do when it comes to making my guys sign in their contract that they're gonna save 40% of their pay different things that we do. So I just felt as though we'd be able to come together and do something that a safe football. You see all these coaches they saw if I don't want to play a spring game, I don't want people

to see, I don't want to do all that. And it's like, why don't you want people to do what's been done a long time? Like, why are we going to stop having a spring game? Like that's for your fans. That's not about you. People are itching for football. So now in the fact that you don't want to go play a spring game, what are they supposed to do now? What do they have to look forward to? So that was one of the reasons that I thought we should do it.

Sure, you got a big fan of me already. I love the mindset, the mentality, the edge that you got. I could feel it, man. And just much respect just for that answer. But one thing that I do admire is that you have shirts that say fourth and one and fourth and nine and those are two plays that led to three two of your three losses last year. And when I got to Alabama the year before they lost to Louisiana Monroe, they lost to Mississippi State and they had it kind of posted all around the facility. And I know kind of what impact that had on us, even though I didn't even play the year before. But like posting that and reiterating that to your players, what does that do? What kind of message does that send?

How does that impact your team in 2025? So give them an opportunity to understand that you don't know what play can change the season for good or bad. So like, who are you to not finish that freaking set in the weight room right now in March? Right. Like, who are you not to finish that half gasp? Who are you to take

a playoff when you're a backside receiver that you're supposed to go cut out the corner and make sure he doesn't go on that little cat blitz or different things of that nature? So it just lets them know like, I'm not sure what play it is. And I would tell them that all summer before I was like, guys, it really only take five players to change the whole season. And you know, it's always talk, right? Guys, it's five players to change the whole season. And you know, it's always talk, right? Guys, if it's five players, it could change our whole season. Now we played eight of our games that we won were by a touchdown or less. And we weren't overtime four times, right?

So like being able to do it. So, and I always tell our guys, hey, we're not the most talented team in the country. By far are we, not even close to it, but we can be the most detailed, accountable. We won't listen to and what play are you willing to regret for the rest of your life? Pick the play you want regrets. So that's kind of my mindset of where it's at.

And then telling the coaches too, because you know, coaches be the wing one. We try blaming on the players, but it's the coach like your punk ass ain't locking on. Oh, you're right. And now that kid took too many reps. He never got to take the rep. So therefore, when it was time for the game, it was kind of on you. Right. And we don't want to take that ownership a lot

and being able to do that. So I just always I'm just on edge like that, though, to be honest. I'm always on go. You know what I'm saying? Where are you from, Coach? I'm from Camden, New Jersey. Uh-huh.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm from Camden, New Jersey. Uh huh. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm from Camden, New Jersey. Which high school do you go to Coach Brown? Camden High, the best one. Some ballers down there, man. That's a Jersey boy.

Yeah. Yeah. Camden, New Jersey. Hey coach, I want to go back to the spring game concept with you and is this something you're thinking of as a one-off or something you would like to do going forward? Do you even sign like a home and away deal with Colorado? What's kind of the big picture approach to this? For a home and away deal, I want to go there this year and then they come to us next year. I think that just in being in our reality, Prime has a big venue, right?

He's Nikon. So Boulder will be packed with them being able to go there. So you know, that would help us, right? It will help me immediately being able to go there and learn some things from him. Just about some of the stuff that they do overall, right? Because he's doing a lot of stuff outside of it. While we're looking to do that. And then he said next year he will come here, right? Then start to try to plan out other things and other people. But we don't have to play that it will benefit, right? It has to always benefit plan out other things and other people who we don't have to play that it will benefit, right? It has to always benefit. It's just a lot that it's a lot involved in it that I want to do or why I want to go. What's the sales pitch to the young men out there

to get them to come up to Syracuse and play football for you and in the ACC? Shit, when we recruit, there ain't no other head coaches recruit like me. Hey, this, I don't want to be, it's just, man, I'm just gonna recruit you. Like I'm gonna come and talk to you. Like I'm gonna hang with you. When you come here, you're gonna spend time with me. Like I'm the guy that's gonna talk to you. I tell them, listen, I can't tell you this receiver coach Stan.

I can't tell you that the DB coach Stan. I can't tell you none of that. I can tell you that I'm gonna be here. I'm gonna have football coach. I could tell you the offense is gonna be ran the way that we run it, because that's the offense that I install. And that's what we're going to play with me and Coach Nixon. I could tell you the defense now, we switched up

because I kind of learned the offense. The defense is going to be the defense. So I could tell you that you're going to come play for a head coach. That's going to get you coaching with your faith. I'm going to get you locked in on your family to understand what family is more. So you're going to actually love the people that you've been with your whole life even more and appreciate them more. Are you're here academically?

That's just a no brainer. I got guys getting 45 credits a year. Everybody has to take 15 credits each semester. Everyone has to take a mini-minister class. Everyone takes two classes, some of session one and depending on your mental capacity of what you can handle coming in. Cause we finish up in August, like seven seven, eighth and we already started camp, depending on what you can handle, you'll take two or one credit. So like I'm going to you to get

a bachelor's degree in three years. Yes, I don't just not playing around. Like I know what it is to go without, right? I know what it is to to be really, really hurting to want to go play in the NFL so freaking bad and don't get the opportunity to do that. But I didn't focus on my academics the way that I should have. I got degrees, but I didn't get educated. I just got an education, but I wasn't an educated man from it. So I didn't understand all the things to do. So I have so many programs set up just to help my young men and help the players. And then when you are around, I'm with them every day. Everyone talks about I'm a he's a player's coach.

No, I'm a freaking locker room coach. Like, I mean, that would the same thing they wear. I would write the things that they're doing. I do. And I just love it. Like, I'm not taking I don't take this opportunity. I got to be the head coach for granted because I prayed for like I cried for it. I got turned down a temple job and I was crying. It's right across from Camden, New Jersey. That shit hurt. Like not getting that job. And then the second time they didn't give it to me, I went to Georgia and God put me in that position to learn more

from them. I learned a lot from Kirby Smart and Will Muschamp and all that staff there. So when this opened up, I'm just thankful and happy to have this opportunity to do it. So I'm not gonna take it for granted. We gotta take every day. Like I get up in the morning at five something, I'm here boxing or I'm working out. And then the rest of the day,

I'm like locked in with our players, right? I'm locked in with them. I'm around them. Like I'm in it with them. So like, do you wanna go play for the coach that you're gonna see the whole year and he with you all year? Or you for the coach that you're going to see the whole year and he with you all year or you want the guy that you really don't even know? Right. Like I meet with my players six times a year throughout the season. Every day there's a different guy that I'll meet

with and I take five guys from eight o'clock to nine o'clock. They all coming in. I call them in to meet with me. So every month you're going to meet with them for at least 10 minutes. And we ain't even talking about football. I just want to come talk to you about life. Like what's up at the crib? Like how are your people doing it? Cause I get to know them, right? So you're not going to ever say I'm going to the portal cause I don't know the coach. You're going to the portal cause you don't want to compete. You're still going to have to compete, right? You're going to the portal because maybe here with me, we might be, you can only get $5,000. I don't know what the number is there. They might tell you 10. So go take that money. That money

might be what you need right now. But here you're going to get a lot more than that. You're going to be a good football player. Like we probably going to have five to seven guys drafted. We'll get about 10 to sign. They had that here in a long time. I love to compete, right? I'm here. I'm competing right now. Like, see, Coach, Coach Maher, you've been a coach, right? For a long time. People don't know

like this time of the year is competing. I just got a quarterback that I just flipped from a program that's about to sign commit to us. And it's like, yo, they they wasn't talking to him enough. I am consistent. Like, so like,

everybody don't want to compete during this time. They think is a spring ball will be okay. I am consistent. Like, so like, everybody don't want to compete during this time. They think it's a spring ball will be okay. I told them yesterday, I thought our practice three wasn't up to par. And they was like, Oh, coach, you got to chill. One of the coaches told me, I said, you ever tell me chill again, you're gonna get fucking fired right there. You know, showing me I got to chill, right? I'll never get day three back. I'm never ever gonna get that back. So I got to hope everybody else was not up to par. So then that way I'll be on point to be able to do it.

But I just want to win at everything. I want to win. I'm excited about winning. I love football. This game has taught me how to be a man. This game has gave me so many father's figures because my peoples wasn't there. But so many coaches that have been able to be a father figure to me and be able to teach me stuff and show me things that now I get the

opportunity to pay that back. Right. And the best way for me to pay my coaches back is to try and be just as good as a coach as they were. Right. And try to do the things that they've done to help me in my life to be able to move on and go. And so like that's, I mean, that's why you should really play for me because I'm genuine. I ain't no bullshit with real. I was going to come on and go. And so like that's I mean, that's why you should really play for me. Because I'm genuine. I ain't no bullshit with real. I was going to come talk to you. And it's all these like, I don't know how to lie to you. I ain't lying to nobody.

I ain't got time. Damn, my friend Brown and Syracuse fan now. I'm telling you, I'm telling you. That's a triple. I don't know how long you're going to be around. But I got a son coming up. He's seven years old right now. So I said I'm going to come play for you.

He got his commitment right now, bro. I just love the game though. I won't, I promise you, I won't cheat a coach. And you just going to see it, go watch his play. And you're going to say, okay, he appreciates and does it all. Like you think I'm playing. See, ask our guys about our midnight lift. I'm saying, ask them how it would go on around.

There's a lot of- You know what's amazing? Coach Brown is every player you ever talk to, they say, who's your favorite coach? They're the ones that grinded them the hardest because they saw something in them and I can see that in you, so congrats. I appreciate that.

We gotta give them the option though. Oh, you wanna do it? Go ahead, Mike, I'll let you do it. I mean, we've been peppering you with questions 15 minutes, you got, you can ask any one of us a question, bro, and let it rip. This your faith, like where you guys, I don't even got a real question. I just want to challenge you guys to making sure that you can continue to get closer with your faith, right? Everyone to have

those questions because there's just so much that goes on and we all get faced with different obstacles on a daily basis. And I would just say that, say that and turning that Matthew's chapter four, when you look at that Matthew's chapter four, it talked about that's when they led him in and God led him to the wilderness for 40 days and 40 nights and it was just about him constantly telling Satan, nah, no, no, no. And he didn't realize that through all of that toughness

he was going to, that he was just getting higher and higher. So I would just say, I don't really got no questions. I've already looked you guys up. I've been watching y'all for a long time. A fan actually of all of you guys, right? But what I'll say is, let's get three more people this week closer to what they fit because of the conversation they had with y'all.

Yep, that's what we put out here to do is to go out there and create disciples. So I appreciate your challenge, brother. And it was great talking to you man big fans over here now for sure. I will y'all be safe. You too. Thanks for the time. Enjoy your spring man. Rob Stone Mark Ingram, the second urban Meyer back here with

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based on your points. 250,000! Bonus bets, baby. All right, we are going to look forward. The crystal ball, we're taking out the crystal ball right now, rolling it around the hand of Texas. BetMGM has their over for nine and a half regular season wins at minus 220 and under nine and a half regular season wins at plus 170. All right. Reminder about Texas

last season. Pretty good season, right? I think we feel like they did all right. And they're going to have great expectations and it's going gonna be an amazing start for them coach Texas they lost it and they lost to the national champions correct. That's a pretty good season right outside of winning it You're losing to the guy who won it all but that was with Quinn you were in charge Now it's arch Mannings are easy aren't yeah I don't know exactly what minus 220 means and plus 170. But you they're double digit, they're gonna minus 220 means you have to put up minus 220 means you

have to put up $2,020 to win 1000. Is that all right? You don't know either Mark, I can tell you. Here's what I know. Here's what I know. That's what no, you have to put $20,000 one thousand guys, Texas at Ohio State week one, you damn well know big new kickoff is going to be there. And I would not be surprised at all if that is a one versus two matchup in week one. So again, the magic number essentially, well, they say nine and a half, but it's 10. So is Texas getting to 10 wins in the summer handed off the mark? Here's what I always look at my team when I was coaching. And now what are the landmines?

You look right now, the landmines are there's two gigantic ones at Ohio State, at Georgia, Florida in the day was a landmine. It might be again, DJ Leguay's back. So I think there's three landmines. Other than that, I think they run it. And obviously, they rivalry. So that puts them at nine. So the three landmines that puts them at nine.

I'd just say you'll lose all three. You come out of that one, you know, two and one or one and two. You still got double digit wins. Coach, I know what minus 220 means. You don't believe me. It means you have to risk $220 to win $100. Risk $220. So if you bet $220, you get $320 back?

No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you get $100? You get $100? win $100. So if you bet $220, you get $320 back? No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But you, you know, a player like you, you got to risk, you know, $2,200 to win $1,000. $22,000 to win $10,000. So you know.

So just three landmines, just three landmines for Texas at Ohio State at Florida and then at Georgia. All three of them on the road. Oof. Yeah, that's all I see. There's landmines and then there's landmines. Those are landmines and then there's mine lands like San Jose State, UTEP, Sam Houston. Correct. You know what I mean?

So I got Texas going over. I got Texas going over nine and a half wins. I'll leave Ohio State as a wash. I got them beating San Jose State, UTEP, San Houston, Oklahoma, Kentucky, Mississippi State, Vanderbilt. Then you have your landmine at Georgia, Arkansas, Texas A&M. I got them beating all those three landmines. I got them winning one of those three. And that puts them over 10 wins.

I think there's another landmine out there where I'm not sure. That's always a potential. Sure. They got their stuff smacked, didn't it? Last year. I know. I know. I know they had to get respect. Because you know what? It is. Oh, last year. Coach, you know, life in the SEC, there's always one of those weird outlier games in like an

October, November where you find yourself in Lexington, right? Or you're on the road at Mississippi State and you're like, what the hell is going on when you look at the scoreboard in the fourth quarter and you find yourself in one? I think they're going to find themselves in one on that little two game stretch, that at Kentucky at Mississippi State. The question I have, will Arch Manny live up to the hype? Correct. And I remember I got so much, uh, what's your answer?

I'm, I think it's up in the air. I really do. It's a coin flip. Yeah. You know, I, I got to study the personnel around them because every great quarterback has something in common, great players around them. I'm sure they do. I just don't know enough about it right now, but you know, I just, the

pressure on that player to be what he's supposed to be at that school. Yeah. And I, what I've seen, he's a good player. I've been losing to our scene that I'm not losing a tight end. They got Trevion Weisner coming back. He a totter tater in the bay. He toast that rock. CJ Baxter coming back from injury, right? If he's what he was as a freshman at tailback,

they should be good there. But you're right. He's got the pedigree, right, coach? He's got the DNA. He's got the name. He's got the people around him, whether that's at a family reunion or in the meetings rooms in Austin. I think he's surrounded by people who are going to give him more than a chance to succeed beyond just

his actual talent. I guess the thing when I've coached people like this, what's good enough? You know, is a Heisman or not? Is it national championship or bus? Last year they went 13 and three. Can he do that with that schedule? I don't know. I mean, that's- It's a schedule that you can win a Heisman with. It's a schedule you can get yourself into the playoffs with, with all those quality winners. This cat is a legacy, man.

He's coming from a deep pedigree of people. You know, I'm big on the legacy train, father played, you know, won a Superbowl. I'm big on the legacy train. What's good enough for Arch Manning is to win games. I know that through and through he came through when Quinn Ures was out. He came through. He won games. Did he have growing pains? Yes. But I think those growing pains that he went through this year in wins will help him tremendously moving forward when he takes the throne as the head man in week one and staying and Staying at one place in this day and age

Unheard of the maturity and the guidance He's getting to stay behind a quarterback for two years when you were the number one recruit in the nation That to me says a lot about that young man, and I'm cheering for him because of that. He's doing it He's doing it the old-school way. I'm gonna stick around for a couple years He got that pedigree man. He got that DNA man. Yeah, he you know, he got that DNA Man, man, we'll find out what that DNA is all about week one in Columbus taking on the defending national champs Oh, man, that is that is scheduling a big dog baby. That is a big dog out of the gate. Make sure to follow and subscribe. Rate us on YouTube, Apple podcasts, Spotify, or wherever it is.

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