The Triple Option - The Triple Option LIVE from Columbus ahead of Penn State vs. Ohio State

Episode Date: October 31, 2025

A special edition of The Triple Option LIVE from Urban's Pint House ahead of Penn State vs. the Ohio State Buckeyes in Columbus, OH. Rob Stone, Mark Ingram, and Urban Meyer discuss the defending National Champions and if they are actually BETTER than a year ago. They dive into what's next for Penn State in this lost season and well as give their top rivalries in all of college football. Plus a surprise visit from Barstool's Dave Portnoy! New episodes of The Triple Option drop every Wednesday throughout the season. Make sure you’re subscribed on YouTube and following on all podcast platforms. Also make sure you’re locked in on social @3XOptionShow on all platforms for highlight moments, bonus content, and to engage with the guys and the TO community. The Triple Option is presented by Wendy’s. Join Team Tendy's and Enjoy a Lineup Like Never Before. Crispy. Juicy. Tendy's now at WENDY’S® Thank you to our additional sponsors Google - No matter what question comes next, you can just ask Google. https://www.google.com/gasearch?udm=5... FanDuel - Visit https://Fanduel.com/TripleOption to download the app and take advantage of a 50% Profit Boost today! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Triple Option is presented by Wendy's, join Team Tendies and enjoy a lineup like never before. Crispy, juicy, Tendies, now at Wendy's. All right, good evening, everybody. Welcome to the Triple Option presented by Wendy's coming away live from Urban Myers Pinet. house here in beautiful Dublin, Ohio. Good evening, everybody. How are we doing? All right. Not bad. It's going to get louder. I'm Rob Stone. So glad you guys are here with us. I know many of you are getting excited for Saturday's game. The Buckeyes taken on Penn State live on Fox. Big Noon kickoff will be here. Our show starts at 10 a.m. If you're watching this,

thank you for watching this live on YouTube. We are a podcast. We're there every week. You can find us on Apple, podcast, Spotify. Wherever it is, you find your podcast. Everybody here's a subscriber to the triple option, right? All right, we're going to work on that. We're going to work on that noise level a little bit later. You can find us on social media as well as 3X option show, new episodes every Wednesday on YouTube, and wherever it is, you get your podcast. Don't forget, leave questions, leave comments.

We love to answer them. We love to react to them as well. All right, let's bring on my co-host, shall we? Let's start with the Bama guy. We like Alabama here, right? We don't... Hold on. Hold on.

They're not Michigan. They're not Penn State. It's still Alabama. And he's a hell of a nice guy. He's a Heisman trophy winner. He's a national champion. He is Mark Ingram the second. Deuce, deuce.

Come on up here, Mark. Where are you, brother? There he is. That is a slow walk, Mark Ingram. Pick up the pace. Pick up the pace, brother. All right, let's bring on the other guy on this show. I don't know if you've heard of him.

He's okay. He kind of knows football. He is a national. champion three times twice at Florida and once here at the Ohio State. He is an amazing human being. He runs this joint. He runs this town. He is the Urban Meyer.

So on the triple option on Wednesday, when we were talking about we're doing this show live, we said, Listen, you know, a firm hit, firm hit to the rib cage. We talked about, you know, obviously this is the day before Halloween. If folks show up and we gave them some ideas, we said if you're James Franklin or Ryan Day, who else did we throw out? Connor Stallions, you're welcome to the show. Like, we would love to have people dress up, right? I also threw out, I don't know if you remember, I was like, if anybody's dumb enough to show up as Jim Harbaugh, we have a special surprise for them. And guess what?

Somebody did. Somebody showed up as Jim Harbaugh. It did not. Yeah. We have Mr. Kaki himself. Everybody, put your hands together. A big warm Columbus welcome for Jim Harbaugh, everybody. Come on up, Coach Harbaugh.

There we go. There's the first stealing sign. What's up, coach? Good to have you here. Good to have you here. Welcome. Coach, Harbaugh. in the pint house.

So here we go. Here you go. You're scaring her, coach. You're scaring her, coach. You're scared her. Happy Halloween. Happy Halloween. All right, let's put Coach Harbaugh on a headset here. Really brave of you, Coach Harbaugh, to join us. Tell us. This is our friendliest territory. This is the easiest game we have on the schedule.

I love to see. Hey, tell them what you got in there again. Tell them. We've got some gold pants. Yeah. We've got gold pants for everybody in Ohio. Now, I know Urban has a bunch of them, but as we've discussed, they all have mold on them. They're rusty.

They're gray. I have fresh gold pants. I also look at it. this shirt I got. I broke this out for you guys. You better have security up here. There you go. The countdown continues. Oh.

All right, now we got a high energy crowd tonight. After that. Freshly updated, Dave. Well done. Now, for all you mathematicians, that's close to six years. That's six years. And Coach Harbaugh, real quick, Coach Harbaugh, how many times did you beat Urban Meyer when he was in charge of the Buckeyes? you know i got diagnosed with Alzheimer's i can't go that far back i can't go that far back he showed me a game up there i was at the game listen it's a cyclical rivalry i went to school when john cooper was there

so we won a lot then obviously urban had his run and right now it's our turn i can't wait till november that's the that's the only game at the beginning of the year i just go w i pencil it in By the way, Dave Portnoy from Barstool Sports, everybody. Welcome, Dave. He's fantastic. I know. You're people clapping right here. Listen.

Listen, I've said this before. I'll say this before. Listen. If it wasn't for where I went to school and my sister and who I root for, we would get along very well. I love the people of Ohio. We have similar things we like, hard work, blue collar, all that. Very Barstall.

Unfortunately, it's just this one particular school that causes. is a problem for me. Other than that, I can be friends with him 364 days a year. Kind of like Ryan Day. He's a great coach, 364 days a year. But there's that one day. That one day when I don't know what he's doing. He's got some wide receivers on the outside.

He's just running between. He gets nervous, scared, whatever. All right, let's hold that thought for a minute. Do you really, in front of this crowd, do you really believe that that Wolverine team can beat this one this year? I know that your passion. I mean, I'm going to ask these guys in a bit, but deep down, we're all family here. Can they be, can they win that game?

I'll answer it this way. I think it's a hundred times more likely than it was last year. Like last year, I just, last year I fake sick. Like we were supposed to do. You didn't go to the game? Didn't go to the game. Didn't live stream it. I was just sitting in my house.

I'm like, we're going to lose by 40. I believe that last year. I don't know how we won that. Michigan was. horrible last year no forward pass we couldn't do nothing you know you won that game those two defensive

tackles for you two defensive tackles and you know and we didn't spread the ball Ryan Day has it in his head from horrible you gotta be tough you gotta run it up the middle and he just kept trying to run it up the middle it made no sense I was watching

I'm sure all you guys are watching the game be like what are we doing because we were not very good so if we beat you last year what happens in Ann Arbor I think, listen, that rivalry is nasty. And, like, sometimes you have to throw the records out the window. Like, when we play Auburn, like, you throw the records out the window.

Obviously, Michigan's going to play tough. They have confidence like they've been beating you off since 2006. Six years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, I think Ohio State is the superior team. They should go out there and they should handle business. They got beast on the outside, got offensive line, a tough defense. But we thought the same thing last year.

You know what I mean? Last year was stunning. I think Ohio State should win. I think Ohio State should win. Hey, you got to throw out of records out when these two teams meet. This is crazy. Like, Penn State's in town. And we're talking about Michigan.

Oh, you have to. You have to because the man's right here with a shirt with 2,163 on it. All right, so, Dave, I know you have to get out and eat some pizza in the Columbus area. Let's leave with one question for you. Where are you eating pizza? That's not the question, but that's all right. Go ahead. Where are you eating pizza tonight?

Besides Urban Myers Pine House. Ego, what is the name of the place? Iacanos. Iacanos, which is great. Good pizza? Yeah, we were here last time so good. Did you rate it? I gave it a high seven, which is a big score.

It was very good. What's the highest score ever on a pizza rate? 9.4. I gave a 10, but it was a hometown school. And you're New York. You like the favorite. I like New Haven, Connecticut's my favorite. Oh, yeah.

Sallies, Pepe's, modern. They're great. That is a wheelhouse pizza. All right, real quick, before Dave leaves, guys, I'm curious. give us the top five. Are you good with that? The top five in the Big Ten right now. You want to go five to one? It's clearly Indiana, Ohio State, one, however you want to put one or two.

Is Indiana better than Ohio State? Is Indiana ranked higher because they better win? If they played, I'd give a slight edge to Ohio State, but they're both really, really, really good. Oregon, I was still put at three, and then you're looking at Michigan in Iowa, probably four and five USC's in there. Michigan, the quarterback's so young. And I love your quarterback. It pains me to say it. But as long as Underwood keeps getting better, they can give them a problem.

But it's a clear one, two, and I think Oregon's clear three. Before we let you go, Dave, I think this is interesting that what's going on down at LSU, maybe the first time in my lifetime, and I've been around the game over almost 50 years, you have a governor of Louisiana, which I have friends down there. They love this governor now. I'm in the state of Louisiana is a different place. By the way, LSU's a different place.

That governor checks all the Louisiana stereotypes. John Landry, right? We were saying, Urban and I, when I first saw it, I thought it was AI. I was like, what am I? Is this real? Yeah, yeah. And he came out and said, we made a decision during a game, and then on Sunday that we're going to make a change at the governor's mansion.

And I was the same thing. I thought this is, someone's making this up. And I went to bed thinking that's not true. And then all of a sudden you start reading into it. And then he said, are you going to let, the sitting being paid athletic director at LSU hire the coach. He said, no, we are. And who is we?

The governor and the board of supervisors. The board of supervisors. The governor appointed six. That the governor appoints. And you made a comment to me back there, and I want everybody to hear us. You said you love that. I loved it. Why?

First of all, this guy is very Louisiana. I think whoever they hire as the next coach has to have that same accent. You mentioned Coach O. But the AD shouldn't. If I'm a Louisiana resident, that's what I wanted to hear. I certainly don't want this AD who hired Jimbo Fisher at Texas A&M, who just hired Brian Kelly and has the two biggest buyouts in the history of college football. I don't want him picking the next guy.

So somebody take accountability. Who else is going to do it? The president of the school. But what I was told, we have a guy, T. Bob Herbert, his dad, Bobby Air Bear, the quarterback from the Saints. He went to school, his alignment. And he said from the beginning, Louisiana is a strange place, and the government does play a role.

To me, that's what makes college football great. You have the different states, the different cultures. I looked at that guy, and I said, that is what I expect out of LSU. I loved it. The only concern is someone with a football, and I made it, I was kind of joking around, that the governor played high school football, so I guess he's an expert. That makes several, all of us experts.

But someone on that search committee has got to be a football, dude that say, okay, now here's what we're looking for. And then I'm telling you, as a coach that went through the process of being hired, if I'm not hip-to-hip with my AD, and I know there's stability, because you and the AD now are like this. You know, you witnessed that with Sharon and Ward Manual and all that stuff that went on. They stuck together. They stuck together.

Not in Louisiana, you're like this with the governor now. Gene Smith and I were like this. Jeremy Foley and I were like this because you are in meetings that are, it's hardcore stuff happening. I mean, in real time. If you don't have that My concern at LSU Which is one of the top five jobs in America

No doubt Have you been to a game there? I have sounds like you've got to start working on your southern accent Family Laude My concern is a great coach is going to say I'm not going to do that I could definitely see that raising a concern

If you haven't had crawfish in your life Don't apply to be the LSU head coach Right there you go there's the cutoff Everybody a warm Columbus Ohio State Thanks for being here Thank you for Dave Portnoy, everybody, please. I do like you guys. The best you can muster, please.

Fake it if you must. I do like you. All we got to do is win out and we're in the playoffs. Easiest game on the schedule is the last one. Thank you guys. You're going to take these with you. Thanks for joining us, Dave. Appreciate it, man.

There's only one day Portnoy out there, man. Thanks so much, Dave. Appreciate it, buddy. The khakis look good on you, my friend. If only he came out with the gloves and the cleats, then I'd be in. Again, if you have questions coming to the back of the stage. If you have costumes, head over to Los Lenders. Let's talk about the reason we are here

tonight, the Ohio State Buckeyes, the number one ranked team in the land, the defending champions in college football. And one of the main reasons they are number one again is their defense. And to me, this is stunning coach. I don't know if anybody could have seen this. They returned three starters on defense. Three. They've pitched two shutouts. Six times they've held the opposition to single digits. They've allowed 41 points, period. That's it. They've only trailed twice this season, both of them by three points. Were you expecting this level of defense from Ohio State, particularly considering coach the fact that their defensive corner, Jim Knowles, is going to be on the opposing sideline Saturday with Penn State? Well, the

head coach has got a bunch of things to do when you get hired. And Ryan Day has done a phenomenal job. The first thing you got to do is the culture was pretty well set and he's added to the culture. Number one, this is really important. So you get hired your head football coach. First thing you do, develop, implement, and push a culture. That's by far number one. Number two, talent acquisition.

And that's number one players. By far, that's number one. But number two is the coaching staff. and he's had a transition. Chip Kelly and Jim Knowles leaves. His quarterback's gone. A bunch of starters gone. And I've known Matt Patricia's since the New England Patriot Days.

We're very, very good friends. He had a tough go as a head coach for the Lions. He was bouncing around the NFL, and I talked to Coach Day about him. I love Matt Patricia. Here's Matt Patricia has worked on offense as well. He's called plays, Mark, in the National Football League on offense. The best offensive coaches I've been around are Dan Mullen and Ryan Day. You know why?

They understand what the other side's doing. The best defensive coaches I've been around are the ones that know exactly what the offense is thinking. And that's what you have in Matt Patricia. The players love them. I talk to him every once in a while. He loves it here. You know, this is like, he's been like reborn in his coaching career. He's come to a place.

He loves the players. He loves the culture. Coach Day lets him do what he does, and he's having great success. Maybe as good as success as the defense coordinators had in the last two decades. An amazing hire. Let's talk about the offense for Ohio State because that's where the hype was, Jeremiah Smith, right? And then the question mark of who's going to run the ball? How good is this Julian saying kid going to be?

It feels like the playbook is starting to open up more and more each week, Mark, for the Buckeyes. Yeah, they're taking the training wheels off. You know, kind of came in week one versus a Texas team who we all thought was going to be. be vying for a national championship. And you kind of can see how they just wanted him to manage the game. And he did that. He made great throws. He made great decisions.

And you kind of just see them opening up the playbook and taking the trainer wheels off. Obviously, all the Buckeye fans can thank Alabama for, you know, Julian Sane and Caleb Downs. But, like, we were devastated, you know, when we lost those players. And it just shows what type of player he is. He has a lot of talent. He has leadership qualities. He has everything you want in the quarterback.

So Ohio State's lucky to have him, and he's just going to continue to get better. And you see it, man, because he's balling right now. I mean, last week, what, 36 and 42, almost 400 yards, four touchdowns. He has receivers on the outside. The running game isn't what it was last year. And so you could just see him, you know, taking those strides, getting better each and every game. Hard for the running game to be as good as they were last year. It is.

By the way, with that two-headed monster, that's now in the NFL. So let's have this conversation that is the head coach, what you would come in on Wednesday. It was my day because we saw Monday was game prep and all the coaches go in our offices for about 10 hours a day, 10 hours apart. You all come together and you start putting stuff on the board. I would spend time with the office. What are you doing for 10 hours? My Lord, that seems like a long time.

So you have two coaches in charge of third downs, two coaches in charge of first down. Game planning. Two coaches in charge of this. And then you all come together and you sit there a bunch of gray-haired people and start drawing on boards and all that. But by Wednesday, this is really cool. by Wednesday I would walk in after spending time with a defense

because I'm an offensive coach and I'd walk in with Ryan Day, Tom Herman, whoever was the offensive coaches and in my mind I'd look at the game plan and I'd say we need to score 21 points, 28 points, 35 points, 42 points. God forbid, you know, what was the bad year? We had a bad defense was

18 I believe or 17 where I'm like, shit, we need to score every time he tested a ball. 35, 45 points, which has a You know, that's a much more aggressive game plan. When you got a defense like Ohio State, I'm telling you right now, 21 points you're going to win. So as a head coach, you come in and maybe the fans are not going to like it because you're not as open, especially with a freshman quarterback. But I think Brian Hartline, and I said this against Texas, because I saw some fans being upset that we weren't scoring more points.

The job of the head coach is not to score points. The job of the head coach is being the left hand of that column, and what do we say, the best thing about it? of 7-0 is a chance to be 8-0. His job's to win. So the head coach is the game manager number one. And that's exactly what Coach Day is doing, and Brian Hartline's doing. So against Penn State, what's that number? New quarterback.

They're not playing well on offense. They have the skill on the outside of Penn State is not what normally Penn State has. Not where it should be. They have two great tailbacks. They aren't playing great. They have an offense line that was supposed to be the best offense line in the Big Ten Stunt. So I can see what's going on over there.

in the Woody Hayes facility is Coach Day saying, what do we need to win this game? Because that's all that matters to keep getting better and win the game. What's that number? What is it? What do you think? If I'm the head coach, I'm saying I need 30 points to go win. That much. Now that's a buffer.

Deep down, 21 points you walk out of the stadium a winner. He's right, man. Shoot, the coaching. Why are they so good? They're coached extremely well. How do you reload from a national championship team is by having great recruiting, by having great coaching staff, by building a foundation

in the culture, and that's what Ohio State has. That's why they're right here, undefeated. They're the number one team in the country. They haven't had a great schedule, but they've won and dominated all their opponents. They haven't trailed. You said they haven't twice? Twice. They trailed twice?

By three points both times. What was one? Texas, maybe? I don't know. Regardless, they've been dominant through and through the season. That's because of the foundation they build with their culture. What I find interesting about this edition of Ohio State is they are following in the footsteps of a national championship team. And I think for a lot of programs and a lot of players and a lot of coaches, that's daunting.

That's intimidating. That's suffocating. Particularly here in Columbus, right? Oh, you did it. Well, then the expectation should be rinse and repeat. Go do it again. I get this perception from an outside. Now, obviously, I get some inside through you and through all the contacts that we have.

The way Ryan Day and his staff are managing this team, I feel. like last year is actually benefiting this year's team? Well, I talked to Coach Day once in a while. We text a lot, and I feel with Coach Day is a person that has the weight of the world is somewhat off his back. Because he got that Natty. Because he got it. He's become legitimized.

You know, he was the guy that, what was I said, woke up on third base, all that nonsense, and then they lose the Wolverines. And he's not, you're not going to find a bigger fan of Coach Day than myself. But now it's like it's almost the heck with it. You know, I've done my deal. I know I'm good. I've done it. Yeah.

And I see a team that is just, and I see him. He doesn't look like he did before. He looks better. He looks healthier. I mean, I'm one to speak because it just beat you to death. Yeah. But he, and he looks like a guy that trusts the culture and trust the infrastructure. And I'm going to talk about this on Big Noon.

The best thing in Ohio State, amongst the many things, is the infrastructure that is there. You have the best recruiting and GM, his name's Mark Pantone. There's none better. There's not a person better at the job than Mark Pantone. The best strength and conditioning coordinator, and he's in charge of all sport performance, is Coach Mick Marotti. There's none better. You can't say, well, A&M or Alabama, no, he is the very best in the, and it's proven.

And then you can say, okay, now the academics, this and that, the infrastructure set, he can focus on doing what, managing the team and not replacing all those. That's what happens, Mark, when a guy takes. takes a job like DeBoer, when you take over for Saban, it's very, it's like what Ryan Day did to a degree. You don't want to change, but you've got to change because he's not him. You've got to be yourself. And I feel that with Coach DeBoer at Alabama, you're taking over for Nick Saban. Are you kidding me? That's a lose-lose. But you can see him starting to grow into it right now. We had him on the show. He's phenomenal. He's a great football. His winning

percentage is outrageous. He's won at every level, but he took over for the man. How do you do that? You keep some of the good, but somehow you've got to put your own face on it, and that's what's going on here, and that's what's going on at Bama. You've got to have your own fingerprint. You've got to have your own identity. I can't be trying to be you. I've got to be me. So while you left me with a great foundation, I still have to put my own personality and my own demeanor on this team.

And, like, every program has, like, their turning point, right? And I feel like last year, this Ohio State's team, their turnipoint was that Michigan game. After they lost that game, they haven't looked back ever since. They dominated the most They had the best playoff run in history Because, you know, they played four games, whatever But they rolled through the playoff They rolled through the playoff

And they were rolling through this year Like when I was at Belmont, our turnipoint Was losing to you in the NC championship When you're in Florida We went undefeated the next year So I feel like that turnipoint was for them For Ryan Day and for this entire program You know, it's interesting about the turning points

Is that turning point could have gone the other way It could have. It easily could have fallen off cliff Penn State's dealing with that right now Their turning point was home wide out Oregon. They lost in overtime, off the cliff they went. They didn't respond. They didn't bounce back.

Instead, they went into a spiral that they're still trying to pull themselves out of. Okay, this is really important as well. So your locker room gets exposed, not when you win, but when you lose. Ohio State's locker room and culture got exposed when? Mark, you said it. Michigan. When they lost to the Wolverines, they won 11 straight. They went on the greatest run in college football playoff history against Tennessee.

What was it, Tennessee? Oregon, Texas, and then the big one against Notre Dame. Penn State, they lost that game against Oregon. You get exposed. They go on the road to UCLA, lose to an 0 and 4 UCLA team. Then they lost to Northwestern at home. So people are saying what kind of Penn State we're going to see. I have so much respect for Penn State.

I have a lot of respect for their talent. But deep down, do I have a lot of respect for the locker room? It is what it is. I mean, you can blame James Franklin. he took the hit for it, but at some point, Mark, what goes on in the locker room? Ryan Day deserved the credit, but you know who really deserved the credit last year? Sawyer, the quarterback, Will Howard. Will Howard.

The grown-ass men in that locker room has said enough. The team meeting they had and all that, they put it all on cards, and they did it. Yeah, I mean. It's actually a case study of locker room to me. It was what's going on at Alabama, what's gone at Ohio State, now what's going on at Penn State. Well, your coaches, they could give you. the blueprint, but it's up to the players to execute it. It's up to the players to police each other and hold each other accountable.

That's what you saw in Ohio State last year, and that's what we're not seeing with Penn State this year. For you to lose to Oregon and still have the whole season ahead of you, they go on the road and get beat by UCLA team who had just fired their coats, then go to home and lose the Northwestern. That shows a lack of accountability within the locker room, like you said. You had multiple players that could have went to the NFL draft, they came back for a chance to win a national championship.

Now, I think those expectations derailed them. You know what I mean? They thought just because Ohio State won an after championship, just because Michigan won that championship, that they was going to have the same blueprint and win it. It doesn't mean that. You've got to have accountability from the coaches to the players all through the facility. And the example that I used, again, this is really good friends of the podcast.

In 2005, I went up to visit 2000, spring of six or five, I went to visit Bill Belichick. I think the greatest locker room in the history of sport. Bruske, Brady, Vrabel, and Rodney Harrison. And he invited me up there. And I went up and watched and learned

and you know what? They told me, it's our job not to let it get to Coach Belichick. What happened to Coach Belichick now that he doesn't have the locker room? He's struggling in North Carolina. The last half of his career or the last couple years,

it wasn't great in New England. Bill Belichick is still Belichick. The locker room's not to. the same. And so what is the strength of Ohio State? The locker room. What's the strength I guess about, I don't know, you know Alabama. What's the weakness of Penn State? It's not talent. He didn't have Tom Brady anymore. Yeah, it's a locker room. Another fascinating locker room. Tom Brady went on to win another one. Another fascinating locker room, for me at least, in college football is what's going on in Bloomington. You know, what Coach Cignetti's been able to build

right there, and it's not a one-hit wonder, right? There they are sitting at number two right behind Ohio State. So that was your fresh take of the week presented by Wendy's joint team tendies. Who here's had Wendy's tendies, huh? They're right here. They are schmacken, according to my friend Mark Ingram. Smackable. Shmacken. So the fresh take of the week presented by Wendy's

joined team tendies and enjoy a lineup like never before. Crispy, juicy tendies. Now at Wendy's, they've got the lineup of amazing sauces here as well. All right, let's pivot right now to three and out brought to you by Google. We're going to take a look at what

fans have been searching for on Google this week. And remember, no matter what question comes next, you can just ask Google. So how about this number? We have seen a 700 and 30 percent increase in searches asking, quote, what is the oldest rivalry in college football? The oldest rivalry in college football. Anybody out here know it? It's not in the Big Ten. It's in the Ivy League, but it's not what you would think. Smart schools. Smart schools. It's not It's not Yale Harvard. It's Yale Princeton back in 1873, by the way. So we're talking rivalries.

Mark, I'll go to you. The top rivalries in college football. Number one, I know what number one is. Sorry, Columbus. You're not going to agree with it. That iron bowl is nasty. That iron bowl is nasty. I mean, I ain't heard nobody poisoning nobody's trees up here.

That iron bowl is nasty. It gets ugly out there for the iron bowl. Iron Bowl. Obviously, me, you know, being a part of Fox and the Big Ten for the last few years, this Ohio State, Michigan, that's one too. Then I live in South Florida. So Miami, Florida State, I think that's a big one as well. There's some great rivalries.

That's why we love football, these rivalries. But the Iron Bowl, Michigan, Ohio State, and then Miami, Florida State. That's nasty, too. All right, Coach, your top three rivalries. I'm going to go backwards, I think. Texas, Texas A&M is number three. I think the Iron Bowl is number two. Texas, Texas A&M is a great one.

I just have had friends coaching it. It's a team that's right there next to each other. I've coached it in Notre Dame when we played USC. It's a great robbery. It's not that same level. I've coached them Florida, Georgia. That's a great one. Florida State is a great one.

But the second one is Aaron Bowl, which is Alabama, Auburn, like you said, Mark. No, B.YU., Utah, Utah coach. Two and one. BYU, Utah. Holy Moor? You want BYU, Utah, and also Bowling Green Toledo. There you go, B.G. Falcons. The one loss hurts more.

It hurts me bad. Where was it out on the road or home? It was at home. Oh, at home. We were up 24 to 3. Cam Newton? And Scam Newton. Scam Newton.

It ain't, it's Scam Newton. He came back on his man. And then the greatest robbery at all the sport is the game. And that's Thanksgiving weekend in Ann Arbor or Columbus. Ohio, by far. Ann Arbor this year. Anybody going to the game this year? Anybody booked their tickets yet?

Any bias on the one and two? Any bias on my one and his one? No, no, it's... What's your call? What I expected? You know me. You know how I like to do. Oh, you like to listen and then go wherever you want to go. I go wherever I want to go.

So I'm lucky that I've been able to touch a lot of sports. You're going to put the soccer rivalries? Because I can go soccer with you, too. I know you can. So I'll go number three for the soccer nerds. Go Columbus crew in the playoffs right now. Believe in your crew. Real Madrid, Barcelona. Insanity.

Although there's some fun in Argentina. I know, Coach, don't worry. Come on your earmuffs for a little bit. You'll be fine. You'll be safe. What they call that match? What's the name of it? El Classico. Yeah, El Classico.

Yeah, I mean, that's a great name. Number two, college basketball, North Carolina Duke. Oof, twice a year, it's something special. And that's the same level of hatred and energies you see with number one. It's Ohio State, Michigan. You can't beat it. It is the greatest rivalry, I think, in all of sports. That's professional, that's college, that's international, it's whatever it is.

There's a reason that Fox picks that weekend every week to air that game to close out the regular season, Ohio State and Michigan this year. Company man. I am a company man, if anything. That was your three and out. By the way, speaking of company men, how about these chicken tendies? Take a little bite of those chicken tendies right there. Let me prop them up and make people happy. All right, so if you have some questions, we're going to do Q&A here.

after a quick break. Again, the good handsome man over here, Chris and the orange shirt, will take your questions right now. We also have their costume contest. We already had Coach Harbaugh join us on the set. Shelly's dressed up. I don't know what is Shelly dressed up as you? Yeah, I think so.

I think I saw some Ryan Days floating around here as well. A little love for our first lady back there. Everybody, Shelly Meyer, everybody. The queen. The queen. Queen, She'll probably have some Pilates. That's a nice bike session. All right, we're going to take a quick break here on the triple auction presented by Wendy's.

When we come back, we answer your questions live from Urban Myers Pinet House right here in beautiful Dublin, Ohio. Welcome back to the Triple Option presented by Wendy's. We are live from Urban Myers Pinet House here in Dublin, Ohio. Urban Meyer's blonde doppelganger, Shelley Meyer over there at the edge. He's Mark Ingram the second, Duce, Duce. I'm Rob Stone. Thank you guys so much here in person for intending. We lie.

Thank you for watching and listening out there, whether it's on YouTube or on your favorite podcast right now. Guys, we ready for some Q&A? I'm going to tell a story about Shelley real quick. Here we go. So when we got hired in 2012, let's everybody go back to 2012. Simpler time, a happier time. The Big Ten was bad. Bad, bad.

The Big Ten was bad. The Stadium atmosphere is in the Big Ten. were bad. And I remember our first game, we played Miami, Ohio. The score was 7-0. And on the field, it's not like we were playing bad. We just weren't good. We were slow.

The Big Ten was slow. We beat them. So we're one and all. I go home, and she goes, and usually that's kind of our rule. I want to see the kids. I don't want to talk football. And she goes, what was that? She was, that's the slowest football I've seen in obviously 10 years because we're in the SEC

where the, you know, there's no slow. I don't care if you're in the 10th place team in the SEC. That's the real SEC too. And I said, listen, we're going to recruit like the SEC. We're going to elevate this thing. And she actually talked to Gene Smith, she actually got involved. And she said, our atmosphere at the shoe isn't what it needs to be. and our atmosphere at the Big Ten conference is games.

We go in games. Even the Big House was it. The Big House is hard now. It wasn't. Penn State's always been hard. Wisconsin was okay. But I mean, the conference schools, think about this. Go back just, what was it?

15 years? 2012. I was told there'd be no math involved with this podcast. I don't know, Coach. But go back. The Big Ten, the SEC was here. The Big Ten was here. For sure.

NFL draft picks. SCC here, Big Ten here. Ohio State's talent. I mean, it's good. It wasn't what you're seeing now because you had to push everybody's envelope to let and get out of your comfort zone and go recruit the country, not just your footprint.

But I want to give Shelly credit in front of our people here. She had a lot to do with us. She said this is not what she was used to. By the way, can we open up this camera to a four shot? Let's get Shelley in on this shot. Shelly, put on that headset. You're up here. If you're hanging out with us.

Is it live? Is it live? It's hot. It's hot. You're putting it on backwards. Make it hot. Help her out, coach. Oh, we can't do a four shot.

All right. Shelly, you just hang out and be eye candy. Shelly, blow that whistle. Let's start the Q&A. Start the Q&A. Here we go. All right. Q&A time.

Question number one. Name and question, please. Hey, I'm Lainey. Oh, H. I-O! Okay, first of all, who invited the Jim Harbaugh face guy here? Like you, Lainey already. I like her.

She's got some moxie. I'd like to know what... Here, I'm going to say this to you about Portnoy. When you get him behind his scenes, what's your thoughts? Great dude. He's a businessman. Then all of a sudden he comes out on stage and it's like, Ohio State sucks. I'm like, where'd that come from?

Shut up! I don't know if he really believes that. Shut up. I just want, what are your thoughts? About a 2014 playoff. A 14 team playoff. A 24. 24 team.

Woof. Woo, big expansion. Coach, you want that one first? Yeah, here's what I'm in favor of. Whatever we come up with, eliminate the committee. And here's what I mean, have it play in. So I was a big fan of the Big Ten's model where it said 4-4-2-1. And I don't think that's going to fly.

but I think there should be six teams for the Big Ten, six teams from the FCC, all involved, and there's a play-in on Big Ten Championship Week, and your six is playing, what, three, four is playing five, those teams go to the playoff and go. That way, you know what the committee is? There's no committee, because I think, and I'm not hammering a committee,

but even if I was on the committee, I'm wrong sometimes. You're wrong sometimes, you know. So I would do whatever it takes Never wrong. Speak for yourself, shoot. I would do whatever it takes, Rob, to get rid of the committee and have it be all playing. And if it's all playing, is that 24? Is it whatever it is?

Seems like a big number, but I'm in favor of expansion. I think it's particularly now with NIL, it's opens up. The parody is insane. Like, so I'm going to be bummed. I'm going to be bummed when it's down to 12 this year. You know, give me 16. Give me, you know, figure out a bigger number. I think it's coming, Lainey, to your point?

Again, I just don't want the committee saying this team's better in this team because they don't know that. My pushback, though, will be somebody has to be involved with the wins and the losses, and then there will be some type of seating, and somebody is going to do that. Seedy is different. But who gets in the playoffs? No, there's no committee. You earn your way in.

Four place five, you go. It should be just like the NFL playoffs. You win your division, you win something like that. That's how you earn your way in. It's not this opinion that this team is better than the next. And everything we've seen in college football in the last couple years is NFL associated. Is NFL related? That's essentially what we're going to be going to.

It's going to be SEC Big Ten, North, South, East, West. It's going to be some former that with 16, 20 teams in each. I feel like that's what it's going to. But as far as the expansion, you know what I do? I like the NBA, the play-in tournament. So you got your playoff. Then you got the playing tournament. So, you know, the outside teams you play in.

Mark, those student athletes have exams and studying to do and things like that, right? How are they going to find all that time to play football? All right, question number two. You're talking about 24 teams. Name and question, please. Hey, I'm Drew. Can you guys hear me? Hey, I'm Drew.

My question is for you, Coach Meyer. As a coach, what is your advice to a team that, like our Ohio State Buckeyes, has been told practically all year, you're the number one team in the country. How do you get past that and past the noise? Yeah, we've been there, and I actually talked to Coach Day about that. I think what I would do is make Tuesday practices so hard. You know, when you're like Mark Engram on those 0-8-09 Bama teams, and I was a coach of the Gators back then and also Ohio State in the 14-15 when you're that good,

I wanted to make sure the Tuesday practice was when I walked in the locker, when I would do that, I'd walk in and I wanted to see people exhausted. I wanted to see people beat up. I wanted to see, it was Joey Bosa against Taylor Decker. It was Zeke Elliott against Curtis Grant. It was Michael Thomas against Eli Apple. It was good on good, and I mean they were blowed out. So they're not worried about reading their phones.

They're worried about getting the training room and getting their minds right. And I think that's what's going on right now in Ohio State. The biggest enemy in Ohio State is Ohio State. The biggest enemy in Alabama in 0809, I know, was Julio Jones against whoever was playing that damn corner spot because they're not going to face anyone like that until it gets to showtime, which is a couple weeks down the road. Good question, Drew. I agree. I think Coach Day has really handled that locker room. Excellent. It's that turnip point that he had. He changed. The whole thing has changed. By week heading into Penn State,

they're saying all the right things. They're doing all the right things so far. Question number three. Hi there. My name's Adam. My question is, with college football, the eye candy test. The eye test. Ohio State, they typically pull back in the second half, not running up the score. Indiana, Coach Nettie kind of puts the gas to the pedal. How does that vary with Ohio State going into rankings going forward? That's a good question. When you say I test, that's like a trigger for coach. Yeah.

Right? Like, I know when you say Ohio State's been so dominant. 100%. I agree. So, all right, I'll start with you, Mark. I test. I have no problem with throttling things back because you've got to worry about the bigger picture. You got to worry about late November, December, and MLK weekend.

If I'm Ryan Day, and I'm killing a team, I'm taking my starters out because I don't want to risk none of them getting hurt. So I'm going to get my other guys in, get some game experience. I get to see what they got, and I get to get a win. So my eye test is, I won again. I'm the number one team in the country. The ultimate eye test. I won again.

Now we're Indiana, like, Signetti, he feels like he has something to prove. I agree. He feels like he has something to prove. So he's going in. He has a Heismic candidate and Mendoza. He's trying to get him numbers because he could have came out the game a little earlier last week. But he did it. And we all watched that game.

We said, I bet he gives him at least one more series. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, give him a touchdown. He had the 40-yard touchdown pass. It cushions those numbers a little bit. Then we're good. But to me, like, I feel like the eye test is, it's for them other teams. It's like from the 12 to the 20 range.

I feel like they need to win big and they need to be dominant in their performances. When you're Ohio State, you're the number one team, you keep winning, you're going to be the number one team. You're going to see Indiana in the Big Ten championship and you have a chance to prove yourself. So the IT test, I don't play too much with it. I like the wins and losses.

I like the quality wins. I like, you know, who's winning the big time matchups. And that's who I go against. I like resumes, who's beating ranked opponents. That's how I just playoff teams and rankings, in my opinion. Coach? Yeah, I test. I do agree. I think if I was Cignetti, which I was at Utah, I'm trying to score 100 points because I want the country to see. Well, if I'm in Ohio State, I'm trying to say, okay, my run game right now is not elite, so I'm going to work on my run game when we're in control of a game, and there's certain things you want to work on.

I could give too, you know, I don't say the bad word, but I don't, I could care less about the eye test when you're there, but there's certain areas that you know aren't up to par. Jeremiah Smith, Carnell Tate, up to par. Okay, now let's figure out the run game. Let's make sure we're starting to because at some point you're going to have to run a bow to win that you're going to have to pound the ball and get a first down when you need to get a first down. So now is the time to work on that.

It's interesting. The number of plays that Ohio State is running this season is down and that's a good thing. That's just less wear and tear. That's keeping your eye on the prize, right? That's keeping your eye on. Keeping my guy's fresh. And Arbor, keeping them fresh, keeping them healthy.

And the other side of the ball. I told you early in the show, you discover 21, you win. Don't put your defense by doing something stupid. Don't do that. Thank you, Adam. Question number four. Hi, I'm Richard. Thank you, Urban, Coach Urban Meyer, for leading us to those victories against that team up north.

What's it going to take to have that victory this year? Yeah, it's in Ann Arbor. Man, is that an awful place? Especially late November. Yeah, when you come driving in that bus, it's almost like. I got post-traumatic stress. PTSD. You know, when you drive, when that bus comes in there and you turn that corn, you see the block M

and your heart starts racing, you see the people. I don't think there's another person alive that respects the robbery like I do. And when I say that, I respect, I can't stand them. But when someone says, Mark, that they don't have good players, they're lying to you. They have great players. It's like if I heard an Alabama player, say that Auburn doesn't have... I've never heard him say that. He can't stand him,

but you respect him. You know why? Because at some point, that guy's good enough to hit you right to square in the face if you're not ready for him. And so they got good players. They got a good running back. Their defense is getting better. Their quarterback, I worry about him down the road. He's a talented

guy. So I think it's, you know, if our defense plays the way they've been playing, you go in that game knowing you need to score three to four touchdowns you win the game. I think we win the game. That's a mentality. It's interesting. You talked about Coach Day, he looks fresher.

He does. He looks healthy. He looks good right now. But there's definitely that Michigan hanging over his head. Every day. Right? Every day. But more so than it, I know it always hung over your head, but his issues with the

Wolverines are playing in his head right now. I think that's his last, the last little hurdle. You get fired behind that here. Correct. You do. You get fired behind that here. Not saying that he's going to get fired, but I'm just saying, at these types of programs where you have these respectful robberies,

no, hated robberies, you lose behind those games. Yep, agreed. Richard, good stuff. You know the name of the room. The name of the room is 7-0. It wouldn't be good if it was like 5-2. I'll see it to 5-2. It's too close to like 5 and dime.

It's not sexy. Yes, 7-0. Here we go. All right, question number 5. Evening. I'm Brandon, a Buckeye born and bred, a Buckeye till I'm dead. I'm here with a coach I brought a coach with me today

I like that That's fine By the way Brandon's reading off his phone Brandon are you nervous about this question I'm excited man I don't want to mess this up Okay Well screw it up Brandon You got one chance Brandon

I have one chance I'm not going to mess it up All right football as we all know is a very physical game But it's also a very mental game as well So today's Roster hasn't beat that team up north for the first time since the 90s. And as years go on, you kind of, maybe you forget,

what does it take to get through there, to finish, to get it done? It's not from a lack of physicality or passion. So my question is, what does Ohio State have to do differently to beat Michigan? I would say, and we've said it, you've got to play free, you've got to play loose, and I've not seen that. You know, last year was the perfect example. I think we ran into a buzz saw two years ago. That was one of the great teams in last decade, the Wolverine team that won the national title.

A phenomenal team. Last year was not. So how did that happen? We were there. Big Noon was there, and I stood on the sideline, and I watched the game. And it just didn't feel like the same team that you saw a few weeks later play against Tennessee. Certainly it didn't feel like the team against Oregon or Texas. So you have to ask the question why.

The first one is the tightness of the staff. The second one is the locker room. what in the hell happened. And I still don't know. I'm waiting for that book to come out. I know I think Bill Rabinowitz wrote a book because I wrote the forward in it, and I'm still anxious to hear exactly what happened

because that was one of the greatest turnarounds. We all walked down that stadium, the horseshoe, like, what in the hell just happened? Great players, great coaching staff, Ohio State. What are we talking about? And then they went on the run. So it's a rivalry, man. And I'm telling you, it's zero-zero.

When that game starts, it's zero-zero. I don't care what the records are. To me, to me as an outsider, man, I can just feel the tension when you talk about that game, right? So if you all feel like that, how do you think those players and those people in that facility feel about that? Don't screw up, don't screw up. Yeah, yeah.

So instead of going into the game, like, don't lose the game, go in that game and win it. Do everything you have to do to win it. Don't be out here playing conservative and trying to, like, oh, I don't want to mess up because I don't want to lose. Like, no, like, go whoop their ass and win the game. Like, I can just feel it. I can feel that. I can just feel that in the room right now, so I know that's how they feel.

Coach Ingram could be your next offensive coordinator. I'm just the guy, and I happen to play a little bit of football, but that's it. Good job. Brandon, thank you. Question number six. I like Wendy's Tendies. All right. So first and foremost, Fox crew, welcome back to Columbus, Ohio. Thank you. Mark, G-E-A-U-X, New Orleans Saints. Who that? Yeah, who that, baby. That's what I'm talking about, baby. Coach Meyer, we've met before. I think you're the best coach in Ohio State history. We've met on the Buckeye Cancer Cruz in 2015 when it got fogged in. Oh, my gosh. And you know what? You left early because

you had to work. I stayed the whole time. I had a $5,000 bar bill. Yes. Can you send me a check for $2,500? I don't have one. I would in a minute. Free Los Lenders for this gentleman. Yes. So Fox team, I'm like you guys. I watch football every

Saturday. I tape 14 games. You guys know way more about it than me. But I watch. There's three teams in my mind that stand out from the rest. Indiana, Texas, A&M, and Ohio State. Can you break those down and tell me which one of those you think is the absolute best at this moment? I'm going to take that. I'm on the A&M train, man.

I don't know their coach. I know of them. I watch some this week because I did a lot of film study on A&M. They're the real deal. They might be the best team in the country. Their quarterback is hitting his stride. He was on our podcast a couple weeks ago or maybe last week. they're playing with energy, enthusiasm.

Obviously, great players. But A&M worries me up. All the teams in the country that I would say, Ohio State is number one. They've earned it. But the one that's nipping at their heels are A&M. And I think Indiana, because they are so well coached, but I also stood next to them,

I don't see the same talent that I see at Ohio State. I see a really good team, Mark. I stood next to the offense line. I made sure I want to size everybody up because obviously we're going to be covering a Big Ten championship, and as now, Indiana, that head coached and those two coordinators as well-coached team as I've seen in two decades. A&M, there's some personnel there.

And I'm not saying Indiana, because I don't want to all of a sudden, that's not true. India's got really, I'm not sure there's a bunch of first-rounders, Mark. No. A&M, there's first-rounders. Yes. And when I watch A&M play, I see that speed and all of a sudden, You know what?

The word that I used to use is Twitch. The difference between a good player and one of those guys make a lot of money is the suddenness or Twitch. The thing that made Mark Ingram obviously is power, but there's a lot of guys built with power. His acceleration from here to that camera, that's what separates the Nick Bosa from the good player. That's what separates to Mark Ingram is the Twitch. I saw that A&M. Rob A&M is really, really good. Shocked me.

I didn't know they were that good. What's cool about A&M is somehow they're number three in the nation and undefeated. Stealth, quiet, under the radar. I like the energy of the coach, too. I mean, I'll go throwing chairs. But it's funny, like all the SEC conversation is on Bama, rightfully. So I'm really high on now. And George and what Lane Kiffin's doing at Ole Miss.

And somehow it's an A&M is just like, hey, that's cool. Don't talk about us. They're going to get their flowers eventually. A&M is getting a lot of love. But nobody has a better resume in the country than Alabama. So nobody has... He's not wrong. He's not wrong.

Bama's resume is remarkable. Yeah, we have the worst loss of the college football season, but we also have the best resume, too. Are they twitched up enough to win it all? Oh, they twitched up. Yeah. And they hitched up, too. But now, we can't run the football.

And we be doing undisciplined stuff. So I don't know about them yet. It's a day-to-day basis with them. Yeah. I'll throw one. I'd agree with that. Roll day. And your quarterback means more to any other team in college football.

Yeah, he's the most important. For one, Julian sane means a lot, not like Ty Simpson. Ty Simpson is the most important player to the team in the country. If we didn't have Ty Simpson, we'd be 500 at best. I think there's a slew of SEC teams that are going to be in the conversation. We just mentioned them. Even Vanderbilt, my lord, inside the top 10. God, I hope they lose.

In the 88 years, Oregon, people have gotten off the Oregon train the last couple weeks. I would just say, be careful, be careful. They've got a great quarterback. They're going to be in the playoffs. They're going to do some damage. But again, I think it's really the big two is Ohio State and Texas A&M, Indiana's tucked in just underneath them, and then a slew of one-lost teams. All right, time for now for two-minute drill. It's time to talk about the reason we are here in Columbus this weekend.

It is Ohio State. It is Penn State and two-minute drills brought to you by Fandul. Visit Fandul.com slash triple option to download the app. Take advantage of a 50% profit boost today. Earlier this week on the triple option, we talked about some of the other big games. There's three ranked games in college football this week. Now we're going to talk about Penn State, Ohio State, Saturday, inside the horseshoe. Buckeyes favored by 20 and a half, over under, 43 and a half.

Favored by 20 and a half, over under 43 and a half. Mark, how do you see this one? I see the Buckeyes going crazy. uh 20 and a half bro that's heavy that half that is heavy that's heavy man listen i got ohio state winning i don't know if i'm laying 20 and a half points though it's a big number uh i i think this defense is just dogs rvel reese Caleb downs sunny styles first rounders just parked out a lot of first rounders i mean them boys is dogs on the defensive side they just reloaded and their defense is carrying them once again

Julian is saying he's a beast You got the wild receivers I like to see this run game get going I see Ohio State rolling easily 20 and a half though I mean Penn State going to come out here And fight a little bit Yep

They're going to fight a little bit They're going to fight a little bit So I'm not laying 20 and a half points But I like Ohio State to win by at least two touchdowns Do we have any Olin Tangi Braves in the house Any Olentangy high school products I think I heard one yes somewhere. All right.

Well, their quarterback, Penn State's quarterback, is from Olinji. Yeah. Yeah, Ethan. Ethan Grunkmeier got the start first. From where? From Olinanji High School, the Braves. About 20 minutes away from the stadium. Grew up wanting to play inside Ohio Stadium.

Didn't have big numbers in the loss to Iowa. I wanted to play inside Ohio Stadium, too. Who wouldn't want to play inside it? They didn't offer me no scholarship. I came here to camp. This is just a personal story, man. This is just a personal story. Who was the coach back then?

Drussel. It was Trussel. I came to camp. I came to Ohio State's camp. They had... He looked good in scarlet and gray, by the way. I swear, I wanted to put the stickers on my helmet. Ted Gett Jr. was my favorite player.

I wore number seven in high school because of him. But I came to the camp, coach. They had some recruit. Four-star linebacker. I went against him every rep. I abused this man, coach. I abused him. I whooped him like he stole something,

and they still didn't offer me no scholarship, man. But it's all good. It worked out all right for you, Ducey. Go bucks. Go bucks. I see the chain around your neck. You're doing all right. All right, so Penn State, let's talk about them real quick.

That's my personal story. I'm sorry, y'all. I'm glad you all let me vent for a second. Coming off a bye week and entering this one off four straight losses. They lose their head coach. They lose their starting quarterback. They lose all the confidence that they had. Remember, this was a team that was number,

two. Number two in the preseason poll. And here they are, winless in Big Ten play. My sense is with that by week, they've tweaked their offense a little bit, some of it out of necessity with a new quarterback. I feel like there's going to be some new wrinkles that they have to show against Ohio State. They're going to slow the game down. Coach, you know that, right? They're going to limit the possessions. They're going to take the time on the clock. Will that frustrate Ohio State? Washington tried to do the same thing. They weren't frustrated. Didn't work.

Didn't work. The scoring margin was manageable in Washington's eyes, but they slowed the game down, but it didn't impact Ohio State. The thing for Penn State is this is now their national championship game. They had national title aspirations coming into this one. They are going to invest and push everything into this game. And that scares me. But if you hit them early and you put them back in their place,

You're going to tuck that tail. And it's okay. That tail goes in. I like the Buckeyes 24-6. I don't think they need to put up the 30s, the 35, Coach. I think they're like, we're good. They're just going to kick a couple of field goals. This doesn't bother me. We're comfortable.

We got bigger fish to fry later in the month of November and December and January. I like the Buckeyes. 20 and a half. Yes, I do. Yes, I do. Barely. Coach. Barrel.

Yeah, I'm concerned about Penn State's Locker. room they've been exposed you know i i think i see two good running backs great i love the running back allen and singleton they're going to be stopped and i don't know if they'll cross fit midfield we're we're odd where's it going to happen with the new quarterback so i see this as an ass kick and i see this is uh you laying the points yeah oh yeah i'd say this is the 35 45 but i think the second half because penn state right now lost their coach they lost a bunch of games in a row there's a lot of conversation about things other than them and I think I'm going to walk into a buzzsaw

Julian Sane is getting catching fire the defense they're not going to I don't know if the score who's going to score the kicker they're great running backs but they're going to stop the you can stop great running backs if there's nothing on the edge and then who's going to do this you said the guy from old tangy I don't know I mean I

four star recruit I see Ohio State doing this So how much money will be putting on this line right here? You starting down 20 and a half. It's going to be a 30, 35 point game. 35, 38. All right. All those here inside Urban's Pinehouse. Thank you so much for joining us.

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