The Triple Option - Top 5 Ohio State-Penn State Showdown, Heisman Rankings, Tyler Warren Joins & CFB Week 10 Preview

Episode Date: October 30, 2024

Ohio State and Penn State hang on to set up ANOTHER top five matchup in the Big Ten.    Coach Urban Meyer, Mark Ingram II, and Rob Stone go between the numbers to take a look at Ohio State's offensive line issues and what can be done to fix them to keep them on track to compete for a College Football Playoff National Championship ahead of their marquee matchup with Penn State. Meanwhile in University Park, the Nittany Lions have a quarterback question after starter Drew Allar was injured and backup Beau Pribula led them to a win over the Badgers. (1:55)   Penn State do-it-all Tight End Tyler Warren joined the show to preview their game against the Buckeyes, take us into the mind of their new offensive coordinator and his play calls, and his transition from quarterback to future NFL tight end. (31:53)   The Heisman Trophy winner of the group, Ingram II, leads the way with his current leader in the clubhouse (hint: it's all about the U), and the guys give theirs before picking their Week 11 games. (55:28)   New episodes of The Triple Option drop every Wednesday throughout the season. Make sure you’re subscribed on YouTube and following on all podcast platforms. Also make sure you’re locked in on social @3XOptionShow on all platforms for highlight moments, bonus content, and to engage with the guys and the TO community. (https://tripleoptionshow.com) The Triple Option is presented by Wendy’s. Try Wendy's New Saucy Nuggs Today https://wendys.com/nuggs A big thank you to the rest of our sponsors: BetMGM Use bonus code OPTION or go to https://betmgm.com/OPTION and get up to a $1500 First Bet Offer on your first wager with BetMGM! First Bet Offer for new customers only. Subject to eligibility requirements. Bonus bets are non-withdrawable. In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. See BetMGM.com for Terms. US promotional offers not available in New York, Nevada, Ontario, or Puerto Rico. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER (Available in the US) Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY) Call 1-800-327-5050 (MA) 21+ only. Please Gamble Responsibly. Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA),1-800-981-0023 (PR). ZipRecruiter 4 out of 5 employees who post in ZipRecruiter get a quality candidate within the first day. Try for FREE at https://ziprecruiter.com/OPTION Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

If I'm Nebraska, I am pissed off leaving that game. I have a sour taste in my mouth leaving that football game. The offense was just frustrating to watch. I'm sitting here yelling at the TV like, what is going on? Like it. I am so excited about this week's edition of the Triple Oshroom because finally, I'm the stable one. I'm at a normal location.

I'm looking at coach, you're definitely in a daughter's bedroom, right? Like this is absolutely has got Gigi or somebody written all over it. It's the official Gigi room and we're still hurricane. Was it Hurricane Milton? So I guess to go. He's going to be admitted to the Gigi room. And now Mark is is what are you in like Urban Meyers fan room over there?

I'm in a Urban Meyer setup. I'm in an Urban Meyer temporary setup. I don't know what's going on here. I love it. You're surrounded. Surrounded by Coach Meyer. Hey everybody, welcome to another edition of the Triple Option presented of course by the Wendy's.

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And we start with this coach. Um, our national championship pitcher, we got, we got that because of the playoff speaking of the playoffs, any given Saturday, anything can happen in college football. And we keep, keep finding new things to talk about every Saturday because of the absolute chaos that this season has delivered. How about this only in college football in one week, can you go from a 56 to seven loss and then go into one of the most intimidating environments and all of college football over a hundred thousand inside the horseshoe to take on the fourth ranked Ohio state Buckeyes and on heaven given Saturday that Nebraska team that got

throttled by Indiana had a lead in the fourth quarter over the Ohio State Buckeyes survived 2117. They get the win. They have Penn State on Fox this Saturday. So much to talk about the Buckeyes also Penn State as well. Coach, let's start with you. Ohio State. There's a lot of places we can go. We can talk about them being one of 10 on third down. We can talk about the Russian game, just 64 yards on 31 carries. That's 2.1 yards per carry. But I think maybe all of those issues and all of the concern in Columbus goes to the big guys up front protecting the quarterback.

Big problems with the offense line, but I want, and I'm going to let Mark, I don't want to steal his thunder. I thought you were so appropriate at the post game when you said I'd be pissed off right now if I was Nebraska. You know, there's a lot of people saying you're a 24 point underdog and hey, nice job. No, it wasn't a nice job. The offense was abysmal when they had to go score. I mean, they were handed the ball several times down there and walked away.

So let's focus on Ohio State that, and this is really important. Every team in the country, I'd say Mark, the last 15 years, it used to be, you could find Lyman anywhere when he went out and recruited. Skill was really hard to find, but then all of a sudden these specialty camps and, and all the focus on quarterback receiver running back, you know, there's when we would go out and recruit, you'd fall over great receivers and great skilled athletes. You can't find Lyman anymore.

And, uh, that's, that's, that's a problem. I mean, it's to the point, Rob, listen to this. You have, you'll, you'll go in a game with three guards, three tackles and maybe a center, a center, and then maybe one, but probably a guard that has to go in there. You just only have seven guys that you can count on. Well, Ohio State's down two. And we knew that going into the season, that was the one area that they felt,

you know, the, the left tackle Simmons is a projected high draft pick. And man, did he get, he's really improved from last year. San Diego state transfer last year, really good. He was playing elite when he went down. He's got knee injury at Oregon. So he's out. And then the backup went in and really, really struggled. And, you know, I just went back and then he helped off the field. Yeah. He, I mean, no, he didn't hobble. They carried him off the field. Right.

Standing right there. They carried him off. Looked like a hip or ankle. Um, so now you're, you're facing a rugged Penn state team, but, uh, back to the point that every school in the country has offensive line issues, every one of them. And that was not the case years ago. So they're hard to recruit, extremely hard to evaluate. This is important too, that when you go recruit a high school receiver,

you usually say, we got one here. Very rarely do you say, wow, what's it going to look like in two years? In offense alignment, you're going to recruit guys that are probably going to gain 30 to 50 pounds and how they handle it, can they gain the weight? Will they get stronger? Will they become more mobile? Because you know, the, you know, the awkwardness of the sophomore, junior in high school and you're that big is real.

That's why I would go watch every offense lineman play basketball. If they didn't play basketball, a red flag went up with me, every one. And I would go watch it myself because I would want to see that cat move around because once you can move, Rob, even when you get bigger, you can still move. And I hate this when you can't move, even when you get bigger, you can't move in more. So problem. Yeah, 100% coach. Like you said, you don't have the guys up front offensive line, defensive line.

That's what you build your team on your Your physicality, your identity, your attitude, it comes from those guys up front. And obviously, you know, that's gonna be a huge challenge for Ohio State. And like you said about Nebraska, if I'm Nebraska, I am pissed off leaving that game. I have a sour taste in my mouth leaving that football game because your defense goes in there

and they play well enough to get that job done. They let two long touchdowns, a 40 yard touchdown pass, a 60 yard touchdown pass go over their head. But even so the offense was just frustrating to watch. We're sitting in the green room watching the game coach and I'm sitting here yelling at the TV. Like what is going on? Like it was just super frustrating to watch that offense operate, man.

Raiola had dudes. He had dudes open and he misfired on them. Nebraska should have walked out of Columbus with a win. You agree with that, Mark? They should have. They should have. They should have walked out of there with a win on that particular day. On that particular day, it was Nebraska's to take it.

And unfortunately, they were not able to take it. I give rule a ton of credit in that program, how they're able to flip the switch after getting absolutely humbled in Bloomington and then having to tuck those tails between their legs and head to Columbus. And they showed up the Buckeye season low 21 points, Nebraska D held them to.

This is the fifth straight game that the Ohio State point total in a game has declined. And obviously, coach, we've been talking about the schedule, right? We knew the set schedule was soft. It was an exhibition schedule for the Buckeyes. And now it's really starting to pick up. And this is this is the meat of their schedule, right? I mean, they had, they had the test at Oregon, they had a bye week, they had a test against a very good Nebraska team, not a great

Nebraska team, but a good one. And now they've got Penn State and they still have the Michigan game lurking at the end of the season. What is the vibe right now in Columbus with what just transpired a survive and move on type win against Nebraska? Well, we've all been there and I've been there, you know, I've been there when you lost that game too and it's devastation. So the season's ahead of them, but I think, and I would always, I actually had a sign. In the staff room, I said, don't tell me the problems, tell me the solutions. We know, you know, just sit there and discuss the problems. Like we just did.

Everyone knows that, you know, don't tell, you know, I say, don't tell us how deep the water is, just sail across the damn thing and let's, let's get this thing fixed. And we, we, every coach in the country has been caught short at offense line, everyone that that is an absolute, it happens a bunch of them this year. And so what you saw, they moved the left guard out, the left tackle brought in a new guard. I'm, you know, I, I'm going to try to find out who will be the starting

five, but then once again, you get a guy hurt there, man, because everyone said, just, just move the left guard to left tackle. You left tackle. The guy sitting up, Mark Ingram knows you don't just do that. You better practice that. Especially against some of those dudes at Penn State, man. You're in space. You're in space. So, Coach, how are you adjusting this week's practice schedule, if you're Ryan Day, and the schedules and how you're going to figure out that offensive line. Well, you're weak. You're deep into October, early November. So your guys are beat up.

I mean, they're either banged up right now. So you can't just go, you know, first of all, simplify the run game. You're going to go zone, right, zone, left, power, right, power, left. And that's it. I would get Will Howard. He would have 15. Hey, coach, dumb that down for my mom who's listening in Sarasota, Florida. Zone right is on to on blocking.

So zone right means that the offense line works together to the right or your zone. I mean, it's that simple. Yep. Now it's not that simple. You're blocking 320 pound dude. So it's not that simple in movement. And then I would also run gap scheme right, gap scheme left, and that's it. But I would run the quarterback 15 to 20 times because the ultimate

equalizer is that guy you gain a hat that way when he runs the ball. So direct snap to them and also every player replay. And they have not done that yet. Does that include just kind of rolling him out as well as no, no, okay. No, no. So that's the run game zone, right zone, left gap, right gap, left, and get the quarterback involved. The pass game, the most dangerous place to be is in that pocket. You saw that last week.

Will Howard got tattooed a few times. A couple of times he barely got his back foot on the ground on five steps, Mark. And he was, people are in his, you know, in his lap there. So you're going to get them out. This is where you get them out in the pass game, Mark, Rob. And the first one is the easiest one. That's a sprint out, no stress at all on the O line. There's stress on the tailback or tight end to block the edge.

And the quarterback gets on the edge. He's very good at it by the way. And they're good at it. They ran that on fourth and one in a big moment of the game. The second one is break contained passing and the naked and boot with a, in the play action game. So getting the heck out of that pocket. Um, and that's how you take stressors off the online.

How does that impact the tailback position Mark when, when you're having these issues? Well, you know, the offensive line is down men multiples. Like coach said, you want wanna dumb down the run game, make it simple for them so they don't have to think so much. They wanna play fast, let them play aggressive. And as a running back, that means I need to be making a quick decision, getting behind my pads, running north and south, get dirty yards,

can't go down on first contact, gotta get the dirty yards. I gotta get two, three, four yards after contact. That's essential and that's the kind of That's the kind of responsibility that these backs will be taking on their plate in a run game But also the pass game as a running back. I'm trying to chip. I'm trying to go out I'm trying to chip who wears their best pass rusher I got to have eyes on them because the tight end is gonna chip them The back's gonna chip them if I have an inside release through the line of scrimmage, I'm chipping the interior delignment on the edge.

With coach said on spread outs, I got to cut down the end. I got to make sure my quarterback can get on the edge and have no pressure in his face so he can throw the football and deliver the ball or run. So it puts more on your plate as a runner. Got to make sure you're running north and south making fast decisions, getting yards after contact turning two yards, two yard runs into four or five yard runs. Also making sure that you're completely aware in the pass game. So we can get chips on the defensive edge chips on interior

lineman. If you're not picking up your your blister and pass that's really well done, Mark. That's exactly right. Well done. You know what I found interesting is, last week, coach, we were talking about Ryan Day spent a ton of that buy time in the defensive meetings, right? He was dealing with that defensive line issue and he's an offensive guy, right? And he brought in his guy, Chip Kelly.

Is he in those offensive meetings this week or is it just like, go get him Chip, figure this out really fast? You know, when I designed the Florida facility, we built a new facility, I was in Florida, and we designed it, and I, the first thing, I didn't care the carpet or the, you know, whatever, that's fine, I just made sure the two offensive

and defense staff rooms were, you know, because the old days, you had to walk, you know, and I know it sounds funny, but time is of essence. And I mean, you could actually, you know, talk loudly and they, which I did sometimes you have to, you know, go back and forth. So, uh, yeah, he's, he's bouncing now. And, uh, you know, we're going to talk about this in a minute, but the defense of Ohio State, you know, played really well by the way, you know, they,

they played really well, however, you know, played really well, by the way. Yes. You know, they played really well. However, you know, Dylan Rayola did not have a good day. So there were some people's open, but their run defense was stout. They played well. And really, the way the offensive played, I mean, it was set up to lose that game, but they stiffened up and stopped Nebraska. So you're saying the head coach's office, it needs to be like one of those adjoining

rooms at a hotel, right? Where you got the door and you always got to make sure if it's locked or unlocked and Nebraska. So you're saying the head coach's office, it needs to be like one of those adjoining rooms at a hotel, right? Where you got the door and you always had to make sure if it's locked or unlocked and the kids could be in the room next door, not so you just have the offensive coordinator on one side, the defense coordinator on the other side. Yeah. One real quick question about the offensive line, really kind of for both you guys, because I'm fascinated by this. We live in a specialized society, right? I mean, there are camps for long snappers, right? I mean, you go to a long snapper camp to get yourself a scholarship kickers have their own camps and their own skill sets. We obviously know about

quarterbacks and the wide receivers. Why are we not having that right now for the offensive line? And if we don't have it, perhaps we should start one right now and trademark one right now on the triple option and start making some Oh, they do. They do. They have to right. we should start one right now and trademark one right now on the triple option and start making some oh they do So why is it not an emphasis because it's not sexy enough but Rob what I want to say what I want to say about the Line man is it's not easy to find one of them cats going black these dudes on the D line these D linemen They're aliens dude. You talk about the inside interior rushers,

like, you know, obviously Aaron Donald is 101, but those are the type of, you know, type of catch you gotta block. You talk about on the end, you know, TJ Watts, Jadavian Clownies, these type of freak athletes that are on the edges. It's not easy to find a Trent Williams that has that alpha dog mentality,

that has that aggressive mentality that's gonna go out there and just lock one up. It's not easy to find those guys. That's why they're a premium. That's why they're one of the highest paid positions in the NFL. So it's very difficult to find, you know, these guys that can block these, these defensive linemen who are probably the biggest, most athletic people on the field. We're going to move on to Penn State in a second, but you guys brought up another point for me. And Coach, this is something you said last week about the Ohio State defense.

Their defensive linemen are taking too many snaps. They are playing too much, right? There needs to be a greater rotation. How come there's not that level of rotation on the offensive line where those cats are there, not exclusively the whole game, but it feels like they play a lot more snaps in the defensive line. Yeah. Great question.

You know, you never really substitute offense lineman offense line. The whole series, they played a whole series. It's because why series they're there and they're tired. It's 18 play series on defense. They're, they're changing people, you know, they get a fresh, they get a fresh pass rushing in every few plays with my way to think the way to think about defense line is hockey.

Yeah. Line hockey. I mean, it's there's different lineups and lines where they're going because the exertion it takes an offense lineman to pass rush exerts himself, nothing compared to a D lineman and same thing with a D lineman ever watch when the ball is thrown or a break is contained, they're sprinting their butt down the field, you know, offensive lineman. And then once they waddle off the ball and move someone,

they're DUN, they're done for the play. Waddle off the ball. Yeah, you know, so no, it's a great question. A soccer player from Colgate would answer that, ask that question. So Mark, I saw your reaction. I knew it was coming, Mark. Yeah.

Go Colgate. It's funny, because Mark back me up on this one. The equivalent in soccer is the back line. The defenders in soccer. They hardly ever changed them out. Right. The two wing backs, the guys in the middle, whatever it is. They're there the whole game. It used to drive me nuts. Like, why? Why can't they be subbed out? be subbed out. All right. We're, we're moving on here. Let's talk about much to coach's dismay. We're going to move on from the soccer conversation. So Ohio state, the soccer conversations. I know you do, Mark.

I know you do. We'll, we'll, we'll go mute coach here in a second in a, in Gigi's bedroom. All right. So the Buckeyes, the remain at number four this week, six and one, three and one in big 10 play. Will Howard saying after that win over Nebraska, every game is a playoff game, right? And they've got another. This is a playoff game. Number three Penn State at

home unbeaten seven and no tie to top the Big Ten with Oregon and Indiana unbeaten sitting there. This is a playoff game for the Buckeyes. Guess what? It's a playoff game for the Penn State as well. And they had a survival moment as well. They went to Wisconsin. It was a game that we all kind of felt had a bit of a trap feel to it, right? Looking ahead to what was going to happen this Saturday in Happy Valley.

And guess what? Penn State at Wisconsin, trailing at the half and their starting quarterback, Drew Aller, limps off the field, comes back in the second half, knee brace on for the second half. Franklin's looking at him saying, Hey, can you, are you mobile enough? Can you avoid these things? He said, I'm not. So they turned to the backup, Bo Pribula, a two time state player of the year in Pennsylvania, and he changed that offense and he elevated

them 11 to 13, 98 yards passing a touchdown, but it was his rushes guys, six carries for 28 yards. He came in, they were down 10, seven when he left, they had outscored Wisconsin 21 to three. We're going to talk about both Prabula in just a second. James Franklin, this is the first thing he was asked Monday. You know, how's Aller, what's your quarterback going to be? He did what I expected. I think what everybody expected. He said, game time decision. We're going to figure it out, right? He's not going to let Ohio State know who's going to be at quarterback. So if you're the Buckeyes right now, you have to prepare, I think, for two quarterbacks. But I think a majority of your time coach is probably on the new QB at Penn State,

the one with the legs, the one that might really kind of fit well with his offensive coordinator for this type of game. Yeah, so Mark can easily identify with this. You have about a two hour practice. You cut down as the season progresses, probably an hour 45, I'm thinking this time of year, just to get players off their feet.

More emphasis on walkthrough and et cetera. And just get off their feet, man. Cause you know, early in the year we'd go to sometimes two and a half hours. But so you're, you got it. You got a window where you got, you know, probably 30 to 45, 40 minutes of special teams. You got your warmup, you got your, you know, backfield, you got all your individual drills, and then you go into the meat of the practice.

And this time of year is probably more meat of practice than the development time. And I would say when, when drew Allard as your quarterback, he'd spent probably one third of the time, because it's really hard, even though he's not playing one third of the time, Pribula with the quarterback grade option component. I'm saying it's flipped to now it's, it's a hundred percent, you know, because there's a chance they could get a Pribula full dose of him and he's really good player. You know, he, uh, we'll talk about his throwing a hitter a minute, but he's a, he's a nice athlete.

He looks very comfortable with his reads. I've noticed him all year. I think Colton Nicky is very comfortable. OC, uh, offense coordinator, Andy Colton Nicky. That's his kind of quarterback. That's what he had at Kansas, a guy that can run and kind of can distribute the ball. in a quarterback, that's what he had at Kansas, a guy that can run, a guy can distribute the ball.

Um, but up to this point in his career, he's 75% pass 25%. No, I'm sorry. 75% run 25% per Bula when he's in there. So Ohio state's going to spend a lot of time on that. And I don't think they have the skill mark. Penn State I'm speaking of to drop back and beat Ohio State. They those two freaks in the backfield, K-Tron Allen and Nick Singleton and then obviously, the tight end, the incredible player, Tyler Warren is those

are the three beat the guys that can beat Ohio State. And with this quarterback, that's a that's a pain for the way, Ty Warren is going to be joining us coming up here on the triple option. Great, great. One of my favorite players in the country. Great player. Cannot wait to talk to him. So Mark, I can tell that Mark's about to smile because it sounds like Penn State is going

to rely heavily on the running game. Yeah, 100%. But when you mentioned both stats, you say six carries for 28 yards for 28 yards people like is that really affecting the game? And yes, it did his longest run was only nine yards. But when you see the way he was running the ball you have to account for him and when you have to account for the quarterback running the football and Russian for first downs. Yes what that does it opens up the entirety of the offense the running backs love it Now there's an extra person out of the box. If he carries out a fake, somebody's chasing him.

One or two people. Now guess who's eating healthy? It's the running backs. And when you have to worry about Nick Singleton and K-Tron Allen and now Bo Perbula running the ball, guess what that does? It opens up guys on the outside. Tyler Warren, these guys on the outside.

And I think what he did is he opened up this entire offense. His ability to be able to run the zone read, the option football, it opened up the entire offense. You saw that in the second half last week when they were playing Wisconsin. And I think, quite frankly, with Andy Kotelnicki as the offensive coordinator and Pribula, his skill set, I think that it's really like a match made in heaven for this offense, man. Just of all the things like he likes to do with Tyler Warren,

how he likes to use these running backs, how he likes to be creative and have a versatile game plan with his quarterback. Bo Pribula actually fits, man. And we talk about these tough decisions that coaches have to make. Yes, Drew Allers has been your guy. Drew Drew Allen has been leading this team for two years. But, you know, at the end of the day, that offense looked like it was clicking how it's supposed to

click when he, when he was took over in the second half. And sometimes coach had to make a tough decision. And obviously we hold Drew Allen's healthy and everything like that. But. Pribula looked really good last week and I would be hesitant not to let him continue to grow. Yeah, I'd be surprised if he's not the guy going for it. Mark, I love the fact that you jumped on, six carries, 28 yards. Cause I remember writing that down.

I was like, man, I thought it would be a bigger number. But when you break it down, coach that's over four yards per carry. And your mantra when you're taking on teams, particularly if you're an over match team was just get me four yards, right? Yeah, get me four yards and he was doing that. Exactly right. And and I'll say this to just, you know, the complete agreement with Mark that a three quarter speed drew

Aller becomes a liability. You know, that that's that's not good against a team like Ohio State with that pass rush and the defensive players they have. So you got some decisions, you got to have some hard, some really good conversations because at the end of the day, you got to find a way to move the ball on offense. From that one, just everybody focus, how to move the football. A three-, uh, drew Aller or bless even maybe a little bit more to me is you don't, you don't have the skill at Penn State on the outside to go beat the Buckeyes. It's gotta be somehow what the really good players in the backfield, Nick Singleton and uh, K-Tron Allen.

Prabula's arm though, coach, it's a, it's a wait and see. There were a couple of throws. This is really good. I'm curious about it. So you watch the tape and you know, you kind of saw it on TV a little bit and he makes a couple of throws. You're like, wow, you know, that was a tight window throw. You know, I'm just not sure he saw what was, I mean, that was a half a step away.

What was lurking balls. Oh, it was gone. I mean, those are one was probably a pick six. He shot the thing right between two defenders and I, you know, I don't want to devalue per bulla because I think he's really good player, but that, that was a top, he made two Tom Brady throws and I just don't believe he, I just don't know. He's a tough, we can start saying Tom Brady yet. Can he consistently make the right decisions in the past game?

Put the ball where it needs to go. That's the main question. Now, obviously we know the impact that he can have with his legs, with his athleticism, how it opens up the offense, how I'll put stress on the defense. But the main question is not having a huge star in a big game versus a team like Ohio state. Can he consistently make the right decisions, put the ball where it needs to go to help this offense move the ball

and catapult them to the next phase, which they haven't been able to do, which is beat Ohio State, which is beat Michigan, he consistently do that in a game to help them win a game. Here's why I like Bo Pribula. Thursday before that game, he did a bro walk with his offensive coordinator. You guys know what a bro walk is? I do know. I wish I didn't.

I wish I did it. But now you're going to find out shirts off. The sun is coming down and happy Valley. You've had a lot of stuff going on. You peel off that shirt and you soak in some of those rays. Get that vitamin D. So per Moola and his offensive coordinator, Andy Kotonecki had a bro walk. The two of them with their tops off,

walking around a practice field and ironically leading into that Wisconsin game, the conversation was, hey, you always got to be ready. You got to have that starter mentality. Like you're the guy who's going to start and guess what? He started the second half, got the win and Penn State remains unbeaten. There are just eight unbeatens remaining in FBS right now. Notre Dame, they kicked out Navy out of that party, had that big 51-14 win. So we are talking Army, Miami, Pitt in the ACC, Penn State, Oregon, Indiana in the big

10 and then in the big 12, BYU and Iowa State. Who's ready for a saucy nug? We're already we all had Wendy's deliveries yesterday and I had saucy nugs delivered to my house with the frosty. I wasn't expecting it. I don't know there was some ranch dressing. It was a little spicy. I had a little kick to it. I just I didn't ask questions. I just ate them. Food shows up at my front door. I don't know who it came from. I don't know where it came. Nobody told me it was coming and we just devoured it.

So we're down to eight unbeaten teams. Third time Army has been 7-0 since 1950. First time since the Dan Marino, Dan Marino days in 82. Pitt is at 7-0. Third time BYU is 8-0 since 79. Iowa State, third 7-0. Best start in school history since the 1930s. Indiana, first 8-0 start since

1967. You know what all those are? Those are your saucy nugs of the week. Try some at your nearest Wendy's. So we mentioned Penn State is one of those eight unbeatens. We are going to talk to their star tight end, Ty Warren coming up next on The Triple Option. Welcome back to The Triple Option presented by Wendy's, Rob Stone, Mark Ingram, Urban Meyer, and the guy that we have been wanting on the show

for weeks, tight end, Tyler Warren from The Penn State. Come on, we are, give me a we are. We are. There we go. We are Penn State. Here we go. Thank you. Thank you.

Set the host. You're welcome. Guys, your Nittany Lions seven and oh, you have been all over this Penn State offense this season. We've got four receiving touchdowns, one rushing touchdown, one passing touchdown. You even snapped on a play that led to a touchdown. What has it been like this season when you look at the play calls and

you see what's being asked of you? Yeah, I mean, obviously, we've been having a lot of fun and I think Coach K has brought a new energy to this offense and kind of what he does. But, and it looks like a bunch of crazy stuff, you know, to the outside, but really, it's just, you know, 11 guys, we each have a job on each play. And we can move around and do it in a lot of different ways. But I think that's kind of what makes it work is our preparation and knowing it's just, you know, we have our one job on that play and being able to move on from it and whatever we can do in the offense to help it out is kind of how we approach it. Are you a salesman on some of these plays

or are you involved in the calls? Is there a collaboration effort or is Andy just kind of coming to you? Yeah, I mean, no, I think really he's the mastermind and all of really our whole offensive staff, they do a great job and we've given little tidbits and things you might have ideas for and he listens to him and if he likes it, he'll incorporate them.

But I got to give a lot of credit to him and the staff for the way that they get creative with the tools that we have on our offense. What's something you pitched to them? Well, there was some, I can't say what it is, but there's been some times where like I've mentioned kind of some tendencies we might've had to make some stuff look different, different ways to get to stuff. But, but yeah, can't, can't give you too much of the stuff. Hey Ty, it's coach and thanks again for joining us at Myri is a player, man. I've done a couple things on your Big Ten Network with Fox. So look forward to seeing you again in person. Um, Penn State's been seven and all, or, you know, the Penn States won a lot of games over the years. Um, there, there's been two distractions or two issues and

that's been the Wolverines and Buckeyes. To me, Penn State looks a little different this year. You know, you guys have overcome some obstacles. You're going through one now with your quarterback, but to go out to USC to win. How is, is something different this year? You know, once again, that the Penn States always had really good teams, really good players, just they can't cross that where they did in 2016.

It's just been a while. You got the Buckeyes rolling the town. Is anything different this year? Yeah, I think you kind of the way we're approaching is it is a new year and and however it's gone in the past, you know, that's we got this team now that we're focused on. I think taking it one week at a time has been big for us. And you know, now it's this week is our house date. So focusing on them will be big and not changing our process up, you know, trust in our process has been

working so far. So not changing anything up and you know, staying true to ourselves will be important. And I think we've done, you know, trust in our process that's been working so far. So not changing anything up and, you know, staying true to ourselves will be important. And I think we've done, you know, a great job of that all year up into this week and continuing to do it this week will be big. Man, Mark Ingram here. Tyler, man, appreciate you and your time, brother. Sure. So Drew, obviously last week, you know, at Wisconsin,

Drew Aller goes down, Bo comes in, leads the team to a big victory on the road. We know Drew's a game time decision this week, but how do you think Bo did? And how do you think he can help this team win on Saturday against Ohio State? If he's- Yeah, I think, you know, yeah, Bo,

Bo obviously he's done it before last year, coming in versus Rutgers and, you know, kind of doing something similar. And we've seen it all through camp. And it's not really any sense of panic when that situation comes about. We know what Bo can do and the type of leader and competitor he is. So I think it's really just going out and playing the game and understanding that there's still a job to do. And he's capable of doing anything you ask of him

at the quarterback position. You know, he's at the end of the day, besides being a quarterback, I feel like he's, you know, one of the better football players on our team. I feel like if they told him to go play linebacker, he'd go do it and be a pretty good linebacker. So I think he's a great football player in general and he did, obviously, like you said, he did a great job of coming in and doing his job and handling business when he came in versus Wisconsin. So I think, you know, however it might look, we're prepared and we know that we got two good quarterbacks back there. Coming out of Virginia and learning your background just recently about your quarterback

being recruited, this makes so much sense now why your comfort level standing behind center. that this makes so much sense now, why your comfort level standing behind center, you know, Polo Nikki averages, um, three to sometimes four players behind center. You know, it was very easy for you. We've seen you throw, you know, we've seen that left-hander throw the ball a couple of times. Can we see some more passing in the future here from number 44 at Penn State? Yeah. I mean, I think it's always, you know, it was too much secret. No, no, but yeah, really it's like I said, week to week, whatever is asked of us as players

and you know, at the tight end position, especially whatever it is that week, you know, we'll be ready to do it. And that's kind of why I love playing tight end. You get to do a bunch of different things and have a bunch of different skills within the game of football. So that's it's been fun. All right. All right, Ty, that was a politically correct answer.

Now the real one. Are you in in coach K's ear and say, let me throw the damn thing. All right. Now go ahead. No, no, I'm actually not. I don't I don't I don't push anything too crazy. I just, you know, I do what I think will help out the offense the best. All right, well here's what was crazy.

I got a question though. Go ahead, Mark. Coming out of Virginia, quarterback, you know, quarterbacks ain't usually tough and nasty like that, man. Like you on the end, you doing the dirty work, getting the blocks, you leading up on safeties, linebackers getting blocks. How does a quarterback have that nasty in him like that?

Just that quick, man. How you translate that that quick, man? I mean, my whole life, I really started playing like real quarterback in high school, really. Growing up, I played fullback. My dad was the coach, and I don't think he wanted me to, yeah, he didn't want me to be the running back. And he's like, you're going to play fullback and block for the running back. So I did that. And I played linebacker and stuff growing up.

So it wasn't really like I was a, I was a quarterback that had to play quarterback. That's just kind of what was needed of the high school team at that time. So that's what I did. And that's kind of how it went. That's all I needed to hear a full bag. I know what you about. You played the full bag. Enough said.

Right. Hey, Tyler, real quick. I know Mark's got a real or Rob's got some, but you run some of those read plays. Did you do that in high school too? Did you read the, did you do the, the cue blast and the cue reads that you're doing now? Yeah.

Yeah. I did a bunch of, cause we ran the wing team, my junior and senior year. So I did a bunch of, you know, power reads, stuff like that, reading the ends, reading linebackers. So it was on my, That makes sense. Yep. I want to go back to, I think my favorite play of the season,

not just from you, but for all of college football at USC. And you snapped the ball and you ended up catching the touchdown pass on the same place. So I'm curious, when did that play get installed? And what was your reaction to being told this is what's going to happen? And what was your reaction when it was called in on the sideline or in the huddle at the moment? Yeah we we'd probably had it in for about two weeks

before that you know it was on the game plan like on the call sheet but but hadn't really been an emphasis. What's it what's it called what's the play call? Okay I'm glad you asked this actually so it's called Kendall Tool and coach K.O. was actually got on me that I didn't mention this and in some recent interviews right after the game, but Kendall Kendall tool is a Peloton. And yes, you know, the the bikes I'm aware of her Monday. Yeah, Monday afternoon at 12 noon, Coach K and Coach trout wine. They have a private lesson with her and they love you know, they love her over at Peloton and

they get really excited for their lessons. So they wanted to name that that cool play after her. So that's, that's where the name comes from. All right, so what was your reaction when it got installed? And then when it got called? Yeah, so I mean, obviously, it was, you know, it's like, oh, I'm snapping the ball sets. It was obviously, you know, a weird play and special. But, but like I said, I'm snapping the ball. So it was obviously a weird play and special. But like I said, I don't want to sound like repetitive. But once you practice it a few times and it's just kind of in the flow of the game, it's just that play. And you've done it 10, 12 times before on the air and in practice.

So really just remembering the little things about it. After we shifted, I kind of ducked down and hid behind the line to kind of hide my numbers when I was going up to the ball, little stuff like that. It's kind of what you're thinking about throughout the play. But yeah, it was fun and I'm glad it worked out the way it did. You know, you play in one of the great stadiums in college football. I've actually tell people I think it's I used to have LSU as the hardest place to play. I think Penn State is the most difficult place to play.

You know, with the student section, a hundred was 110,000 people. I'm sure that the players appreciate that stadium and those students. Yeah, I mean, especially, you know, there's probably a few stadiums that actually can have an effect on the game. And I feel like we get to play in one of them

and just, you know, some places historic as Penn State to we get to play in one of them and just, you know, some places historic as Penn State to be able to play in front of that crowd and then bring the energy they do every weekend is something we don't take for granted and it's awesome. And I know you played and you played and coached in some of the best environments in all of college football. So you know how it can be. So being able to have that as our home crowd is something I'm very proud of and I know our team loves, you know, going out there on tired days. Tyler, man, I feel like we, you know, we're on one accord.

I love my tight ends, bro, because I feel like tight ends and running backs, you know, we all do the dirty work, man. Sometimes it goes unnervous, but you do that nasty, that dirty work. Get down there, deliver the body blows. You know, we're giving you your flowers, man. But I was able to speak to Nick Singleton and K-Tron Allen last year, man.

And I'm big fans of theirs. I want you to I want to give you a chance to give them their flowers, bro. Yeah, I mean, it's hard. It's hard not to, you know, let their tape speak for themselves. I think everybody sees what they're capable of. But I think it really sticks out to me is how they've been the same guy since they stepped on campus their freshman year before they started making all these plays. You know, I remember me Nick the first time when he hadn't, you know, ran a ball yet at Penn State and reading them now he's the same guy and you wouldn't know that,

you know, all the success he's had and same with the same with fat man. Yeah, Batman, but, but yeah, I love, you know, blocking for them is fun, you know, talk about, you know, wanting to block and the mentality bring it's for those guys and relationships we have. And, you know, and when there's guys running angry, like they do that, that fires up the whole sideline and the whole offense. So they, I could sit here and talk about them all day. But you know, they're great teammates before they are great players. And obviously, they're very talented players. So it's a it's a great combination. And they've been doing a great job back there.

I love to play with you. I would love to play with you, dog. You know, I appreciate it. Yeah, Ty, we got a top five ball game in Happy Valley this weekend. What has the vibe been like on campus and through the practices and, you know, just the locker room early on this week. Yeah, I think obviously the energy around campus, it's gonna start picking up as the week goes on each day, it will kind of pick up a little bit. But like I said earlier, I think the best thing

that we've done so far this year, and I think we'll continue to this week, is staying the same and not going up and down with kind of the energy of it and trust in our process. But obviously we know, we know it's a big game and you know, each week you go out there, it's going to be the game you're playing. You're playing college football players who all had offers from around the countries and they have a, they have a great defense and we got a lot of respect

for them, so it's gonna, it's going to take a great game out of us, but you know, trust in our process and, and you know, seeing what's gotten us to this point is going to be important, you know, trusting that process and, you know, seeing what's gotten us to this point is gonna be important, you know, trusting that as we get ready this week. How has Coach Franklin, his staff, kept you guys at the same, as you just said? Yeah, I feel like, you know, it starts with when you're building your team, you're building your culture,

which, you know, there is a tradition, but it has to kind of restart each year, so really back in winter workouts and playing that standard in us, you know, and then, and building it and keep working on it as we go through camp and stuff like that. So I think really just, you know, really it's you do it, you know, y'all y'all y'all been around college football. It's every day you come in.

It's the it's the standard that you're up on. It's not once you get to the season or once you're about to go to the game, it's in everything we do. So I think that's kind of, you know, where it starts and how you keep building on it. We were there a couple of weeks ago, we went to one of the institutions on campus, Berkey Creamery. All right. Let's be honest, man. How many times a week are you are you kind of tempted to lean on inside Berkey Creamery? Yeah. So I do a good job of staying away. But I used to live I used to live with Olu, who's, you know, I was on the jets now, the left tackle that got drafted and he was, he was a problem when it came

to that. So, so I tried to, you know, it was more of a problem when I was living with him, but now that he's gone, I've done a better job of staying away. I have Dairy Queen though. I will venture to a little bit. That's been my new spot, but, but yeah, I've been having some trouble with the DQ runs. But yeah. What about the Wendy's Frosty? You know where Wendy's is? We'll hook you up with some Wendy's, man. We'll send you some gift cards.

We'll take care of it. That's not off the list either. I've definitely had a Frosty clear in there. Bulking season, baby. Bulking season. Hey Tyler, man, we do something on the pod, man, where we allow our guests to ask us any question. You got anything going to fire at us, bro?

Oh man, I wish I had some prep time for this. I would've probably had a good list, but. Most of them go to coach, but me and Stoner here available too. Yeah, I guess Mark, I could ask you, you obviously you played in some very big games and stuff like that. How was your approach?

Did it change or did you kind of keep the same mentality as you went into these big games at Alabama? As big as the games are, you know that, but at the same time, you want to stay as even as you can. You want to stay as even as you can. And just don't press, don't press. The players are going to come. Don't try to make a play that's not there.

Take what the defense gives you. And there's going to be. Don't don't try to make a play that's not there. Take what the defense gives you. And there's going to be a point in the game where a big play presents itself and just make sure that you're ready for the opportunity, because that's that's that's what makes the difference in the games is not forcing a play that's not there. It's just being where you're supposed to be doing what you're supposed to do and taking advantage of the opportunities when they present themselves. So obviously we know it's a huge game. It's be a million eyes watching.

Everybody's asking for stuff like us, but at the end of the day, bro, do what you've been doing. You, you have the talent, you have the ability, you have the mindset, you have the attitude, don't try to press and make something happen. That's not there. Do your job, be accountable, be ready, be where you're supposed to be because when that opportunity presents itself,

that's when you'll be able to capitalize and have the big plays that make a difference in the game. I appreciate that. Good question, Tyler. Good question, Tyler. Hey Tyler, you know what? You know your line coach has two national championship ranks. Yeah, I do.

I was actually thinking I could ask a question just what was, what was Phil Trout one like back in the day. He's one of, he's one, I think someone did a study three players on that one that started two national title game. And you can ask him about the first touchdown against Ohio State. He was blocking that fricking great player for Ohio State. And Chris Lake threw a touchdown. Thank God it was a quick game because we were he

picked up Phil and threw him into the quarterback. So you can throw that at him today. Yeah, I have to bring that up. I just texted with him, by the way. So I really appreciate you. Yeah, he's great guy. Yeah. Tyler, we appreciate the time. We know you're busy this week. And man, it has been an absolute joy to watch you this season where you're throwing running, catching blocking snapping. Who knows, maybe you'll kick an extra point this week and man it has been an absolute joy to watch you this season whether you're throwing running catching blocking snapping who knows maybe you'll

kick an extra point this week right really throw us an extra curveball man you've been you've been everywhere in an absolute delight to watch so congratulations on your unbeaten start and stay healthy and enjoy this top five showdown from Happy Valley this week can't wait to see Ohio State travel to Penn State thanks again Tyler oh Tyler, last thing I got. Oh, you got more about these big games. Take care of that day of football. I got to take care of that.

I appreciate it. Appreciate getting to talk to y'all. This was fun, man. I appreciate it. Thanks, Ty. Appreciate it, too, man. Thank you, brother. We welcome you back to the Triple Option presented by the Wendy's time now to take a look at

Heisman resumes brought to you by zip recruiter try zip recruiter for free zip recruiter.com slash option. zip recruiter the smartest way to hire all right to smart guys on the Heisman race right now it feels kind of like a four person contest at the moment. Cam Ward, Dylan Gabriel, Travis Hunter, Ashton Genty, Mark, our Heisman winner. Who's in the, who's in the leader clubhouse right now for you? The lead?

As of right now? If the Heisman... If they wanted your vote right now, who are you giving it to? Well, I get to put three names on the ballot. I know, who's getting the one, the big one? The first the first who's who's getting in spot one. Yeah. Right now I'd probably have to go with Cam Ward. I'd have to go with Cam Ward. He has Miami 8-0. They would have lost three games if it wasn't for Cam Ward. 24 touchdowns, three Russian touchdowns and

I think just a swagger the demeanor that he's playing with, it's resonated through that entire team. They're playing with a swagger demeanor and that we haven't seen from the youth since the early 2000s. And it all has to do with that quarterback, Cam Ward. There ain't no, and they would have been lost three games if it wasn't for him.

So right now I'm going with Cam Ward, although you know, me being a running back. I was gonna say Ash Jentiery right now shaking his head out. I get three. I get to put three names on the ballot. I get to put three names on the ballot. But on the pack cast, you only get one, Mark. You only get one. Yeah, exactly. It's triple. Oh, the triple option Heisman voting.

I get to put each vote counts for a number of votes, you know, number one, it does in number two gets eight number three gets six or something along that line. But all right. Gentie told that rock, man, got to show love to the our beast out there. Ashton Jenny told that thing. Well, he got he's sitting at 13 hundred yards, 19 touchdowns, almost nine yards to carry. Everyone wants to say, oh, he's playing in the Mount West.

This that I'm trying to hear it, man's playing in the Mount West, this, that. I ain't trying to hear it, man. Go watch the man play football. He is running, he is breaking tackles, he's getting yards after contact, he's picking up pass protection, he catches the football, he is a RB one for a reason. Preach.

So, Ashton Gentey right there, up there, with Cam Ward on my ballot. All right, coach, how about your ballot? Yeah, boy, what great four quality, great great players I love watching them all but I'm going you know that the Heisman the way it's the year every year you have that argument is it the best player in the best team is it a quarterback the Heisman is for the best player in college football and I really think this guy's you know those guys are really good I think he's just a little bit

better than all of them. Matter of fact, he's, he's better in this Travis Hunter. He's the best player in the game right now. He is. Uh, I would draft him with the first pick. Uh, I, and this is after now I've researched what kind of person he is too. You know, he's a dog with the, as Prime says that he's a D man. He studies the game.

There's only one way you can be great at that grade on both sides of the ball. And that's you got, plus he takes a D man. He studies the game. There's only one way you can be that great on both sides of the ball. Plus he takes care of himself. He's not doing the silly college stuff that a lot of guys do. So I just got so much respect for that cat. However many, I think it's 117. I don't have it in front of me.

The man doesn't take a play off. 117 plays. And I pointed it out on Big Newt one time. The receiver's sometimes backside or they don't go after you downfield. He's trying to take your hat off downfield as a blocker. So he's the best player in the game. Coach Prime agrees. Here's Deon on his star two-way player Travis Hunter.

Now Travis is the best college football player in the country. We all know that. Why are we even deliberating over that? So why are we even, why, what, what we doing? Like when does that change? So what's the criteria? Somebody need to say what's the criteria of that prestigious award? Because we're looking at the best high school football player that hadn't, it hadn't been a Travis Hunter ever, ever.

And I'm still up here saying that. He's not wrong. He's right. Yeah, the way he attacks it on the two-way style. And we, listen, Heisman's are one in November, right? Inconveniently at times forget what happened in the end of August, September, October. Travis had a Heisman moment, if you will, a couple of weeks ago. We talk about these Heisman moment, if you will, a couple weeks ago, we, we talk about these Heisman moments and they

just happened and it does feel like you kind of need to have one of those to win that title. Mark, do you remember what your Heisman moment was? Well, put me up there was I went for 246 yards on South Carolina at home. That put me in the mix and I just kept having good games after good games. We went to Auburn. They loaded the box on me and, uh, I had, I didn't have a great game, but then I was able to go to Florida and the SCC championship versus coaches team had about

200 scrimmage yards, three touchdowns. That kind of put me over the hump. So yeah, you gotta have a couple of them for sure. Yeah. Uh, T-Bo when was his Heisman moment? Coach. I was like, I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym.

I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym.

I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go You know, that was a big game nationally televised game. And, and, and, and I, I told Matt this and the other Heisman voters that I know is

I get so angry when they give out those ballots early. I think they changed it. They have pushed it way back. You got to wait till after championship weekend. You have to, you know, Mark, there was a time where you could vote in like October. And people were voting. I was like, stop it. That don't do that.

Cause you're measured because you, you play a soft team and you have a big game against you wait until that championship game, robbery games. And then if you're in the playoffs, so I'm glad they, I know I heard they did push it back. Yeah. You should wait after championship weekend. I, I was able to win mine after championship weekend, because after week 12, you probably wouldn't have put me on there

because I had only 30 yards against Auburn, had a hit pointer, got hurt. Then I bounced back number one verse number two, championship weekend, us versus Florida. We know about that Florida team, we know about the Alabama team. I had probably one of my biggest games of my career, man, versus Coach Meyer, his bucks.

I mean, Coach Meyer, his gators, my fuck. But yeah, 200 yards, three TDs. Coach even says that he helped me win that. So I appreciate you, Coach. You bet. Heisman, we're one in November and we're closing in on November. A lot of college football left to be played. We'll see who takes home the most prestigious title, individual title, at least in college football time now for pick six brought to you by our great friends at bet MGM. Place your moneyline prop parlay and same game parlay bets at bet MGM.

Just download that app today. As always, please gamble responsibly. Alright, so pick six brought to you by bet MGM. We're going to pick six games against the spread Mark Scott is deuce deuce dog of the week's got his deuce deuce dog of the week. Do I? Your deuce deuce dog of the week. Get your growl and your bark ready. All right. But I'll give you time to warm up because I'll start here with Pittsburgh at SMU. How about this one? A ranked affair. Gerald J. Ford Stadium set to host two of the unbeatens in ACC play at least pit. They were picked to finish what in the ACC guys?

Any idea? Last low 13th pit to finish 13th. They're number 18 in the land right now. There's seven Oh, for the first time since Dan Moreno was slinging the rock and steel city back in 82. Last week, they picked sixth Syracuse to death. They had three pick sixes against Syracuse. 41-13 blowout win. There is concern over their Alabama transfer. The redshirt freshman quarterback Eli Holstein left that win in the fourth quarter with an undisclosed injury, so you're going to want to keep up on that. Coach Narduzzi not giving anything away.

Kind of like coach Franklin. Hey, we'll figure this quarterback situation out at the last possible moment when we have to tell you guys as for SMU last week, they won in overtime at Duke. Coach, despite six turnovers, six turnovers on the road and you win. Against a decent team. Yeah, that's unheard of. They're a really good team. Their quarterback, Kevin Jennings, three picks.

He fumbled it four times, lost two of them. I just can't see that looseness of the rock happening. The Mustangs, their 16th in the nation in scoring offense. They put up almost 40 a game. They're gonna win it, but they are not going to cover. Florida, 4-3, taking on number 2 Georgia. The spread here 16 and a half points for the Bulldogs. Here's what I want to know. Why can't we bring back the world's largest cocktail party moniker? I love that.

For some reason, we're not allowed to push that concept anymore. I think that was- No, we are on the podcast. I'm pushing it. Yeah, exactly. One of the great charms of that game, man. What fun. It's the world's largest cocktail party.

I was honored to coach in that thing. Very unique. Mark 50-50 right down the middle and a neutral site and Georgia is the best team in the country, you know, they They're loaded and we saw what they did to Texas last time they played it We both agreed their number one and the Oregon's right behind them 16 and a half. I'm gonna say this about Florida and Billy Napier the coach of the Gators They were dead and gone and they won some games.

And that's a lot of credit to that coaching staff because in the today's day and edge, uh, with red shirting, with kids just stopped playing, uh, they're, they're transferring that he's done. There, there's something there. So I, I think they're actually going to cover this spread. Mark. I really do. I think, I think Georgia is the much better team, but I, there's something I just admire what's going on in

Florida the last few weeks because they, they beat, you know, they beat Kentucky. They beat some other teams and it's a 16 and a half spread in that, in that rivalry game. I think Georgia wins, but I think Florida covers. Let's bounce to the big 10. Oregon, number one again this week at eight. No, they received 61 of 62 first place votes in the AP poll. They head to Ann Arbor. Here's Michigan, the defending national champs, Mark, sitting at five and three. And again, we're talking about the quarterback situation. This week, their seventh year quarterback, Uncle Jack, Jack Tuttle. Retired. Retired, yeah, medically retired on Monday. They went back to Davis Warren last week

to start with Orji coming off the bench as a change of pace type quarterback. They got the win over Michigan State 24-17, and now they've got Oregon in town. What's the line here? 16, I'm sorry, 14 and 1.5. Sheesh. Man, but are you OK? That but I think for you. No, it's not. It's not. It's too small. Yeah, yeah. No, I'm trying to find out my dog

since y'all the sprays and changed on me. I'm trying to figure out my dog. But no, this ain't the one. I mean, you talk about two teams who are headed in complete opposite directions. Oregon does everything well. Michigan does I mean you talk about two teams who are headed in complete opposite directions Oregon does everything well Michigan does almost nothing well right now It's hard to imagine a scenario where Michigan would score enough points to even keep up with Michigan Oregon's been getting better and better as the year goes on Dylan Gabriel and the offense are humming on all cylinders. The defense has given up nine point nine combined points

are humming on all cylinders. The defense has given up nine combined points in the last two games. And they're gonna be the number one team when they're gonna be the number one team in the country when the CFP rankings come out and there won't be much debate about it, even though we think Georgia is the best team in the country. But Dylan Gabriel is having a Heisman caliber year.

And you would have thought that this would have been one of his Heisman kind of moments going against Michigan, but I think he's just gonna be healthy. And Michigan, their offense is just not being good all year long, it's still not good right now. Their next four games, number one Oregon, 13 Indiana, Northwestern, number four Ohio State. They could possibly go one and three over that stretch.

What's their record right now, five and three? Already have three losses, yep. So you're thinking that they could possibly lose another three games? I mean, this is crazy. But Collel Munson, Donovan Edwards last week, which is the strength of their team, they only have 42 yards and 1.9 yards per carry last week. This Michigan team's in trouble. I got Oregon going in there and handling business and covering that point spread for sure. What a chance though for Michigan to salvage the season and get some of that nasty spit out of their mouth. And again, remember Penn State had problems

at Wisconsin last week. Ohio State had problems at home with Nebraska last week. Well, Oregon have problems on the road at Michigan this week. Find out. Again, that's why we call it any given Saturday, right? Things happen. Let's go to the SEC.

Number 19 Ole Miss, they're at 6-2. They're favored by 6-1⁄2 at 5-3 Arkansas. Start with the Razorbacks. Last week, their dual threat quarterback, Talon Green, threw for 314 yards, five touchdowns as well. They ended up putting up 58 points over 600 yards of offense against a struggling Mississippi State team. As for Ole Miss, their calling card this season has been what, guys? Uh-uh, defense. How about the defense? One rushing touchdown. Ole Miss has allowed this season. They have the conference's top rush D.

Wow. Their offense, right? You didn't really expect that, did you? No. Their offense, it still puts up a lot of yards. They lead the SEC in total offense, but they've had trouble finishing drives. Lane Kiffin quipping on Monday that rain could be a factor Saturday night in Fayetteville. We all know weather is a great equalizer. I'm going with Arkansas with the rain coming down to get another huge ranked

home upset. Yeah, there you go. Maybe you could loan me the dog, the deuce dog of the week. All right, Mark, you have a chance for a dog and this is your only chance for dogs. It better be the dog. South Carolina at four and three. We know that's a tough place to play ball. They host number 10 Texas A&M. How about them Aggies at seven and one. Last week, they earned their second top 10 win of the season and they moved up four spots to number 10, the Aggies at 7-1 overall at South Carolina.

It was minus three and a half, right? It went down to two and a half. I hate the hooks, man. Like, come on, like the three and a half is me. This was where I had to Like the three and a half is me. This was where I had to But this was gonna be my dog then It's gonna be my dog There you go a lot of game cards, you know, it's hard to play out there man You know, I'm kind of scarred playing that South Carolina because they got us one time But how about the Aggies man? Let's talk about the Aggies for a minute There's only remaining undefeated SEC team

in the conference play. They're the only undefeated team in conference play. We spent a lot of time giving flowers to Indiana, Coach Kirk Signetti, deservedly so. What about the job Mike Elko has done in year one at A&M? They've already beaten two top 10 teams in our last three games, when Mizzou was ranked number nine, and last week number eight LSU. They won

seven straight since their loss against Notre Dame and maybe that's 75 million dollar buyout on Jimbo's Fisher College wasn't such a bad investment after all. You know I mean maybe it wasn't. They come back from down for 17 to 7 against LSU when they brought their uh Retro freshman quarterback Marcel Reed off the bench last week. Whoa, what a game changer. Yeah. Yeah. Yep I'll score LSU 31 to 6 and he only threw two passes but his legs were the difference in the game and Elko has been kind of not committal about who to start is going to be but you figure out it's gonna be hard to turn Back to Wegman after a game like he had last week and And even when Wegman was hurt earlier with a C injury,

Marcel Reed went three and oh, but listen, South Carolina is no pushover. This is a team that's played both LSU and Alabama within three points a season. They just smacked Oklahoma. They're pretty inconsistent on offense, but they are a really good team on defense against the run. And they have a pair of edge rushers in Kyle, Canard and Dylan Stewart that are two of the best in the country. So I'm going with A&M to win the game on the road at South Carolina but I do like South Carolina to cover this spread so that's that's the aura aura a close game it's gonna be a close dogfight that's the horror horror

be a close dog fight. That's the horror horror. Our dog. These two stock of the week. All right. Last one. The biggest game in college football this Saturday. Number four Ohio State at six and one at unbeaten third ranked Penn State. The line is moving down. It's now Buckeyes favored by just three and a half fourth straight week that the Big Ten has three of the top four programs in the rankings and this one coach will be the fourth top five meeting of the season. Buckeyes at Nittany Lions. How do you see it? Yeah Penn State's had really good teams over the years and they've had two

problems a Wolverine problem and a Buckeye problem. They solve the Wolverine problem they don't play them and now they got the Buckeyes rolling in town. And I mean, this, to me, this is an even game. This is a game that's going to be dictated by health of your team. Um, and that's, it's always amazing to me that I, I never would watch a spread, but now I'm done coaching. I just kind of, it's something's going, you know, Vegas is unbelievable. They, they have contacts in sight.

So Ohio state obviously has an offensive line issue where they've lost two starters. They're their best offensive lineman's out the left tackle Simmons. And now the backup Zen is about, and we're still not sure how they're going to manage that. This is a bad time to go into a game with, uh, uh, two injuries in your offensive line, your first of all, you're on the road, so you're going to deal with some noise issues. And it's really, this is really important, Rob, the further you move away from center, noise is an issue.

Cause you're not going to go with the, you can't go with cadence. You can't hear. So there's either going to do the clap and sometimes claps don't work on those stadiums either. So now you're going to go on movement by the center and the further you move out. This is really important. A matter of fact, I'm going to big new in this thing. So the guard, the guard sitting right next to the center, he can see the movement.

A lot of times it's a head bob. It's something they move their arm. Usually it's a head bob, the center, the guard can see it. Plus the guards playing in a confined space. You put the tackle against an Abdul Carter, some of those really fast defensive ends, and you're going to try it. This is how bizarre it is. I actually taught it.

You're going to try to two way this thing is an offensive tackle. First of all, you're a little bit further off the line of scrimmage. A lot of times the guards helmet is in your way and you're going to watch that center. But you also got a problem. There's a guy that's going to get paid a lot of money, uh, in the NFL. That's going to be rushing off the edge. I would not leave that tackle alone for a minute. I'd have a tight end there.

I'd have a tail back there. That's what I just told you. You can't do. Yep. They're going to ask them to do it, but you can't do it. Nope. I mean, a first rounder, you could do it, but not a, not a, uh, potential he's trying to, he's trying to periphery football and then the rush.

I used to say that. Think about that. So you're periphery. And by the way, blocked his cat. That's about a four, four, you know, 40 coming off the edge. Yeah, it can't happen. So you're going to see Ohio state. They have to, they're going to have people there, whether it be an H back, a

tight end or a back to help them out. So I know that was a lawn. I'm just get fired up thinking about that. How hard that skill is. And I used to hate. So what is today? Today is Tuesday. So today's practice Mark.

And it would drive me insane is you're going to have these big speakers, not but 20 feet from your fricking head. And you can't even coach for that 20 minute period. And it, I mean, I would, I drove me insane because you're getting to use it to crowd noise Rob. That's what they're doing. And, and there's going to be so many mistakes.

You can only really go on one cadence. Expect the more I'm thinking about this, this is going to be, who's going to win coach experienced quarterback, will Howard, right? I mean, I know he's big 12 experience. They going to be the who's going to win coach. Experience quarterback, Will Howard, right? I mean, I know he's big 12 experience. Got to run. He's got to have 20 carries. He's going to have to line on this. So it's down to three and a half.

I, I think I don't have to pick the winner. I just have to pick the spread, right? Yep. I think Penn state covers a spread. I think this is going to be a walk off. One of the two teams that I don't know. I, I got, I'm not ready to make a pick on who's going to win, but this will be a one two point game.

You heard it. Yep. Quinshawn Judkins, Trevion Henderson, both had 10 carries last week. Both failed to get over 30 yards. They did not get it to a Jeremiah Smith enough. He did have that touchdown reception, right? But only three receptions. They really kind of stayed away from him in the second half.

They've got to use him more. And you're right, coach. That crowd advantage in Happy Valley is at least a field goal. Maybe in the fours, five type swing we're talking about. Yeah, and that's, man, I mean, I'm just staring at that sucker right now. And that's because I'm going, I'm right now, Mark, I'm in period 12 of practice with that damn noise screaming at us. And I'm watching my third string left tackle, number three left tackle.

And you're like, it's the third string left tackle. Whoever you put there is the third string left tackle in that environment. And Penn State knows it. And they're gonna go after him. What an environment it's gonna be in Happy Valley. Again, big noon kickoff is gonna be there live on Fox. Cannot wait to get ourselves back out there at Penn State. Next week, as you guys mentioned,

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