The Triple Option - Who is #1? Derrick Henry Joins, Alabama and Texas Fall, and Week 9 Preview

Episode Date: October 23, 2024

Another #1 team goes down amid a wild fan response to a questionable call. Urban Meyer, Mark Ingram II, and Rob Stone take you inside Georgia-Texas. They go through the resumes of Georgia, Oregon, Ohi...o State, Texas, Miami, and Penn State to determine who has earned the right to call themselves number 1 as well as a couple teams that could jump into the playoff conversation. (7:32) The NFL’s leading rusher, Derrick Henry of the Baltimore Ravens joined Mark and Rob to talk about his massive season, his place in NFL history, NBA vs the NFL, and his Crimson Tide.  (44:30) Finally, Coach and Mark take you inside what it’s like losing at a top program for players and coaches alike. The guys then hit the Pick Six, picking the winner of Illinois v Oregon, LSU v Texas A&M, Mizzou v Alabama, Navy v Notre Dame, and Ohio State v Nebraska. (1:08:14) New episodes of The Triple Option drop every Wednesday throughout the season. Make sure you’re subscribed on YouTube and following on all podcast platforms. Also make sure you’re locked in on social @3XOptionShow on all platforms for highlight moments, bonus content, and to engage with the guys and the TO community. (https://tripleoptionshow.com) The Triple Option is presented by Wendy’s. Try Wendy's New Saucy Nuggs Today https://wendys.com/nuggs A big thank you to the rest of our sponsors: BetMGM Use bonus code OPTION or go to https://betmgm.com/OPTION and get up to a $1500 First Bet Offer on your first wager with BetMGM! First Bet Offer for new customers only. Subject to eligibility requirements. Bonus bets are non-withdrawable. In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. See BetMGM.com for Terms. US promotional offers not available in New York, Nevada, Ontario, or Puerto Rico. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER (Available in the US) Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY) Call 1-800-327-5050 (MA) 21+ only. Please Gamble Responsibly. Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA),1-800-981-0023 (PR). ZipRecruiter 4 out of 5 employees who post in ZipRecruiter get a quality candidate within the first day. Try for FREE at https://ziprecruiter.com/OPTION Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 At least give me an Indy car with an engine in it. Let me drive it 20 to 30 feet and pull up like for real. I was worried, Mark, that they're going to have to squeeze, squirt some WD-40 on you to get you out of that. I'm lean machine, man. I slid right on in there. Doing my Ricky Bobby. Help me, Ernie Marr.
Starting point is 00:00:16 Help me, Brady Quinn. Help me, Tom Cruise. Light it. One of the favorite parts of my week, not just doing the Triple Option podcast with you guys, but just watching Mark's reaction when the Triple Option music begins. He might be in a good mood. The Ravens won. That's the only team that won. That's the only good thing going on right now in your whole world.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Yeah, we going with the Ravens, baby. Yeah, Let's fly into the Ravens right now. Yes, sir. Welcome to the triple option presented by Wendy's try Wendy's new saucy nugs today. We've got a saucy saucy nugs story courtesy of urban coming up a little bit later. Glad you're here with us. I'm Rob Stone. Sure do. Couple college football legends with us as always urban Meyer and Mark Ingram on this
Starting point is 00:01:04 week's show. How about this get Mark? You're getting credit for this one. Rob Stone sure do a couple college football legends with us as always urban Meyer and Mark Ingram on this week show How about this get mark you're getting credit for this one the NFL's leading rusher Alabama legend Derek Henry joins us. We have another change atop the rankings But who really is the top team in college football Mark's answer it might surprise Slash anger some people in his circle. We're going to look ahead to week number nine, including did I just say undefeated Navy? You bet I did undefeated Navy taking on the Irish and what is it like as a
Starting point is 00:01:37 coach as a player when you had your tails handed to you on Saturday, what goes on in the mind and the body of that one? We know two guys who don't lose or didn't lose a whole lot that much, but when it did, it certainly stung. So before we get to the triple option, as always, we encourage you to subscribe to our YouTube channel.
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Starting point is 00:02:20 the Mecca of college football right now. Bloomington, Let's start in the Mecca of college football right now. Bloomington, Indiana. Ooh, the Mecca. Bloomington, Indiana. Big Noon kickoff was there. It was the second time we've ever been in Bloomington. And let's be honest, when we were there two years ago, coach, we were there because Michigan was there.
Starting point is 00:02:40 This year, we were there because it was all about Indiana and what is going on in Bloomington right now. It really is an amazing story. Amazing story, much respect. I made the comment on Big Noon, Mark did a lot of times getting ready to watch these games. I'll start watching video and after about, you know, a quarter, I can't watch it anymore. It's so bad. The coat bad, the plane's bad, the fundamentals. That's not Indiana. That's just in general.
Starting point is 00:03:07 And then I watched Indiana and it was one of those days, Monday. I watched probably four to five hours of it. I couldn't get enough. And I kept calling our producers at big noon and saying, listen, this is one of the best coach teams in the big 10 and one of the best coach teams in the country. And it's very rare when you show up after watching the tape and you get there and it's exactly in person, what it looked like in tape. And so before I hand it to you, Mark, in the first quarter, when they started
Starting point is 00:03:34 boat racing, Nebraska, I usually sit with everybody, grab some meat, watch the games. I said, I grabbed security. I said, I want to go stand on the Indiana sideline and see if this is real. And Mark, it's real. And markets real. They have very good players, but those very good players are playing great. They have an excellent coaching staff, the communication. They do not make mistakes. The energy, the fundamentals, the hustling on and off the field.
Starting point is 00:03:59 It was real. And I got to stand right there and watch coach Ignatius and that team. Demolish a decent Nebraska team. They put a, they put belt to ask for show. They would tell coach, but, um, but, um, man, some mid south wrestling right. Stares out to me is like belt. No, coach Cignetti, like we talked about, you know, how well coached they are and it comes from their head coach and like, we love how well coached they are.
Starting point is 00:04:32 We love how they execute. But to me, it's the edge that they play with, the chip on her shoulder, the aggressiveness that they play with. And that's what stood out to me the most. First drive, they go down, it's fourth and two, you know, some coaches like, okay, let's take points. It's first driver to game He's like no, we're going for it go for convert fourth and to score touchdown seven points They even went for it the next drive on fourth down that ain't convert but they got a turnover when Nebraska was driving in the red zone So that aggressive mentality that trip on their shoulder that edge that they have we talked about it on big noon
Starting point is 00:05:03 This is a team that has what? 40 players that had zero or three stars? Zero stars? I think 92% of their roster is comprised of zero or three star dudes. Well, I'm just like, these are guys who are looked over who have an underdog mentality, who have a chip on their shoulder,
Starting point is 00:05:20 who are hungry to prove that, hey, y'all made mistakes by not looking at us. You have a coach like that, you have players like that. And that's why Indiana is special right now. Yeah. And those guys are mature. They're not like freshmen, you know, or softwares. These are dudes who have college football playing. Let's you talk about the start that Indiana had. How about the start coach that Big Noon kickoff had this week? So
Starting point is 00:05:42 this is one of the things I love because Mark, I'm not sure everybody pays attention to the big noon rundown as much as I do. So like there's times when I look at the rundown, I'm like, oh, this is coming, oh, this is coming. And you guys aren't given this full structure snapshot, right, you guys are given like the little highlights of the things you have to hit.
Starting point is 00:05:58 So I'm not sure everyone was fully aware of how Mark Ingram rolled, rolled into my Mark Ingram on Saturday, baby. It was so cool to see. Hey, in the Indy car, in my fire suit. You know what I mean? I told him, I said, hey, man, if y'all want me to do this, at least give me an Indy car with an engine in it. Let me drive it 20 to 30 feet and pull up like for real. Don't have me out here looking like a child on Christmas with a new toy car. Hot wheels. Two people pushing me.
Starting point is 00:06:32 No, next time drop a real engine in there and let me really drive that thing. I was worried, Mark, that they're going to have to squeeze, squirt some WD-40 on you to get you out of that. Hey coach, you know I'm lean machine. I've been in one of those things before. That's a tight fit, man. Fast, fast. I'm lean machine. I sleep right on in there. You looked right at home and I love how you did the whole a
Starting point is 00:06:52 block with the helmet on. The visor on the flame retardant suit. I told you when my Ricky Bobby my Ricky Bobby. I love the Brady Quinn. We always urban urban was urban was offered first dibs at arriving in the Indy car and he passed because he knew how much you would nail it mark right coach or something like that. I defer to deuce deuce anytime those situations show up for you to get involved coach is your turns coming up. It's time to come to get involved, coach. It's your turn is coming up.
Starting point is 00:07:26 It's time for you to get involved. It's coming, coach. Maybe this week in Ohio State. Maybe this week. Hey, what did we witness? Another edition of any given Saturday, another wild day in college football. So the number one team in the land goes down at home, Texas losing to Georgia. Normally that in itself would be the conversation to start us off here on the triple option presented by Wendy's, but it was
Starting point is 00:07:52 actually a call reversal and then the behavior of the fans in Austin that is generating much of the conversation right now. Quick snapshot, three minutes left in the third quarter. Carson Beck is picked off the return takes it all the way down to the Georgia nine, giving Texas some much needed momentum getting the crowd back into it. But defensive pass interference called crowd didn't like it. I was watching it on the plane right next to Matt liner. We didn't like it. The fans certainly didn't like it. They littered the field with cans and bottles and they had to clean up this mess.
Starting point is 00:08:30 During that time of the cleanup, the referees had a little impromptu meeting and picked up the flag, reversed the call and said it was not pass interference. It was an interception. We'll get to that in a second. Here's Georgia head coach, Kirby Smart, on everything that went down in the ramifications
Starting point is 00:08:50 on that reversal of the call and the fans' activities post-game. I will say that now we've set a precedent that if you throw a bunch of stuff on the field and endanger athletes, that you got a chance to get your call reversed. And that's unfortunate because to me, that's dangerous. That's not what we want.
Starting point is 00:09:10 And that's not criticizing officials. That's what happened. Texas, they've been fined $250,000. The tape is being reviewed to suspend any fan for the rest of the season that participated in it. We saw Steve Sarkeesian coming on the field, begging the student section, please guys keep it down, keep it down. You know how those things are. season that participated in it. We saw Steve Sarkisian coming on the field, you know, begging the student section, please guys keep it down, keep it down. You know how those things are.
Starting point is 00:09:28 One bottle turns into five bottles into a hundred bottles into a couple hundred bottles. It only takes one guy to kind of instigate things. But let's talk about the referee picking up the flag. We all got it right. You got it right. A hundred percent. They got it right. But should it have gone down that way. And I guess your guys view from a player standpoint and from a coach standpoint, what transpired in that window from the call to the fans, to the overturning. Mark, I'll start with you. As a player who has experienced some bad calls from refs, some atrocious calls
Starting point is 00:10:02 from refs, probably the worst ever. some bad calls from refs, some atrocious calls from refs, probably the worst ever. I appreciate the refs correcting their mistake and getting the car right. But it never happens. And this was not with review. This was a non-reviewable call. They weren't going to. Mark, you and I, the soccer guys, they didn't go to VAR for this one. They didn't go to the replay.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Coach has no idea what the hell VAR is right now. It's like VAR is a replay coach. Some new band that's going to be on big noon this Saturday. But yeah, it's replay. So this was just the dudes getting together and sorting it out. They got together because of the action of the fans that had delayed the game. They got together, dude, and realized, okay, yeah, I messed up. Little impromptu time. Let's pick the flag up. Yeah, I picked the flag up. It never happens. Why I commend him for making the right call. That never happens. It reminds me of New Orleans NFC championship game, a minute 30 left to go. We have the most atrocious no call ever.
Starting point is 00:10:54 I mean, coach, you talk about passing affairs. Talk about, you talk about hit on the defensive player. You talk about leading with the crown of your helmet. It was all three of those things. It could have been any of them and they didn't throw the flag. So I'm thinking New Orleans. We should have threw everything we had been Yeas, Marty Grubbe's everything on the field. So they could have picked up the flag and got the call right.
Starting point is 00:11:14 And we would have been going to the Superbowl. They're throwing hurricanes at you guys and the glasses with the umbrellas. But I agree with Kirby. Like you can't just endanger players by throwing whatever objects on the field. Obviously there was water bottles and trash, but who knows what could be going on the field and hit somebody and put somebody in danger. But, um, the refs got it right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:35 I got a couple of thoughts. And number one is, uh, I was part of the college football for a long time, well before instant replay. And you, you would tear your heart apart when you got the players and everyone out there working their tail off and a guy that gets paid $300 to work a game back then an official and the game you lose a game. And it happened. Uh, I will also say this, the majority of calls, especially at the higher level are correct officials.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Cause I go back and I did it for 20 years. I would evaluate the officials. I did it myself and turn it in and what I thought were mistakes I'd go back and say well the guy was right however there are some egregious mistakes instant replay has really helped the game I know it's in baseball now in other sports it's really helped the game because that's that's a criminal activity to me if you if a guy that's not involved I mean he's not a player not a coach and he loses a game for a team like I watched that game with you well mark when you're playing in the playoffs so but you can't
Starting point is 00:12:36 do that you know you can't you can't do something unprecedented where people are throwing things on the field and you rally up. Cause right now, if I'm at Ohio state, I make a signal to the fans. Dump the field. We'll take the, was it $250,000? Yeah. Yeah. That's a couple of suites. That's chump.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Yeah. That's a, that's a half a suite at the, uh, the stadium change a call, you know, or so I, I, I'm torn at the end of the day, you want the right call. And I heard Mark say that, but, uh, I think if you make a mistake, you live with it. And I, and I do believe that they really have to penalize. And I know they do the person that made that, you know, uh, coaches, they get fired, players get benched.
Starting point is 00:13:21 What happens to the official? And I know there, there is ramification. But I haven't closed doors though you know like we never hear about their repercussions you know they might get docked on their official grading they might not be able to do a SEC a conference championship they might not be able to do a playoff you know what I mean but the rest are graded right they they are graded to your point it affects game assignments postseason opportunities compensation level will they be invited back next season? But as you mentioned,
Starting point is 00:13:49 at least at the college level, these decisions are not out there for the public. I will say this too, that I heard Texas is doing the right thing and those whoever threw something on the field can't come back in that stadium. I saw that on social media today where they're sending out, they're doing their work. If someone throws something on the field, you're not allowed in that stadium for a year, whatever. I mean, instantaneous. Get out. Hey, coach, in this day and age, and these are things I tell my kids, cameras are everywhere.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Yeah, cameras are everywhere. You nobody gets away with anything unless you're like the Menendez brothers. And we I have no idea what they didn't get it either. Every time I come home, my wife is watching another Mend the Menendez brothers and we I have no idea what they didn't get it either every time I come home my wife is watching another Mendez Mendez brothers show I don't watch how many of them are out there they didn't get away with it though Rob well I know but they true true true but how did I just spend it the Menendez brothers I apologize hold on coach I just want to go back to one thing that you just said real quick after games you would evaluate officials and turn it in. Who are you turning that into?
Starting point is 00:14:49 Yeah, I would have the defensive staff and offensive staff and I do it myself. And you have a there's actual form. It's a it's a it's a process. So it's mandatory, right? These are things that the coaching staff turn it in. And if it's egregious, you have a call with the commissioner. And I've had a couple where it gets very heated, but in the head of the officiating. And there's action taken once again, like Mark said, it's not public normally. I think, I think, I think conferences do come out. So we made a mistake. Yeah. However, once again, once again, I'm okay. So you made a mistake.
Starting point is 00:15:21 So, uh, yeah, there's a very, uh, clean process that you do. Can we talk about the game and what transpired? Yeah. Okay. Let's go there. Cause I had a couple of notes that I was writing down while I was, I was watching this one, Georgia up 23, nothing at the half in Austin, 39 yards of Texas offense at the half. I'm watching this mark as it unfolds in the first half. I'm like, Oh, this is a total reversal of that Georgia Bama game where Bama jumped on Georgia. And then Georgia has the big comeback. Not enough. I'm like, Oh, boy, George is jumping all over Texas on the
Starting point is 00:16:00 road on the road in the house. Watch out for that second half. Etn and that offensive line absolutely dominated things. Quinn Ubers, the Texas quarterback, six of 12 for 17 yards and an interception in the first half, six of 12, 17 yards and interception and what happened? Oh, pulled him man when he when they pulled him and put Arch Manning and I was like, I'm writing all these notes on my phone and my laptop. I'm like, okay, Sark just created a
Starting point is 00:16:30 quarterback controversy. I'm fascinated. Coach, if you've ever been in a situation like that, and how you manage the communication because as me as a layman, I'm saying to myself, Sark had to know what he was creating in that moment. He needed a spark desperately. And I sit there and I go, I hope he spoke to both guys saying, Quinn, we just got to try something. You're coming back unless something really, really works. Arch, get in there. We need a spark. But the man management at that moment, coach, fascinated me.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Yeah. I think these discussions are had well in advance. I mean, it's life in the big city, you know, whether you're a right guard, quarterback, safety or corner, if you are not playing well at places like Texas, Ohio state, Alabama, there's quality people behind you. And if, if Mark Ingram is not playing good, you got a cat behind him. He's going in. I would tell the quarterback same thing. And I would tell the team the same thing, you know, that so there's I don't I don't need the
Starting point is 00:17:28 the media will make it bigger than it is in locker room. If you're not performing well as a punter, I'm gonna take you out and put the other punter in. And I explain that, you know, that those are conversations had well before the first half of the Georgia game. So, but in the moment, coach, does there doesn't need to be a refresher conversation, if you will, like, you know, we don't have any points on the board, Stoner. I thought it was the right call, but it was also opening up a potential Pandora's box. I think that's a bigger story for us and for, you know, Austin, Austin news stations or whatever, you know, but it happened. It happened in the national championship game with Alabama with Tua and Jalen Hurts. We're not having any points.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Georgia's up. They put Tua in. We end up winning the game. You know, it didn't happen that way for Texas, but in what Coach says, these things happen. You know if you're not performing to the standard, if you're not giving the team the best chance to win, the coach sometimes has to make a tough decision. And shoot, you know that. You know that as a player, even if it's not discussed. If I'm not performing the way I need to perform, if I'm not the best chance for this team to win,
Starting point is 00:18:33 then probably something's going to happen about it. And that's essentially what happens. At what point in the game did that happen, Stoner? Stoner Late second quarter. And Arch, they jumped on him. They pounced on him. His first pass was in the dirt. There was that, I think it was a fumble as well. So it was it was kind of the theme, right? The Georgia, the Georgia, no matter who the quarterback was, offensive line or defense line, they were coming at you and they were winning. Just think Stoner though, we talked about this game. Carson Beck had three interceptions. It's not like he even played his best game. Not even close. It was truly the trenches of Georgia that won the game for them. 100%. You have Jaylen Walker, he had three sacks. Had McHale Williams, he had two sacks.
Starting point is 00:19:14 The defense had seven sacks as a unit. And then, it was just the two fronts, man. It was just, they went into Austin and they dominated the trenches of the team. It smacked them that first half. It smacked them. A team who we thought was the most complete team in the nation, the number one team in the nation.
Starting point is 00:19:30 They went in there and neutralized the team, made them look pedestrian on their home field. So that just kudos to Georgia and Kirby Smart coming in and being ready, being prepared for a game. I said it on Big Noon that I wouldn't be surprised if they went in there and they won out right just because they was going to go in there with a must win mentality and the type of players that they have, they've been big game ready. And they went in there and they did it. So yeah, I've been on the Texas bar in Georgia.
Starting point is 00:19:53 All the Georgia fans was mad at me last week. You know what I mean? Cause I said, I wanted to box with Kirby. You know what I mean? But I'll give y'all kudos, man. Where, uh, when y'all put in that work. I was on that Texas bandwagon for awhile. Um, that was the most dominant performance I've seen in quite a while.
Starting point is 00:20:09 I didn't know Alabama's was the first half and all that, but this one at Texas. I guess I thought they're legitimate number one team in the country and they just, they ripped them apart. Coach, I love it when you give me a segue into our next conversation. We're going to talk about number one. We're going to talk about it with just a little quick playoff reminder. Okay. We're about halfway through the season.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Again, 12 teams make the playoffs this year. That includes the five highest ranked conference champs followed by the next seven highest ranked teams in the country. Force highest ranked conference champs. Remember, they get that first round by and then five through ranked teams in the country. Force highest ranked conference champs, remember they get that first round by, and then five through eight teams host those first round games. We're gonna get to that much, much later.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Probably next month, we'll really start digging into that. But this season, at this moment, here's your 12 playoff teams, all right? Oregon, Georgia, Miami, Ohio State, those are the teams with the buys. Boise State, there as well. Penn State, Ohio State, Texas, Tennessee, LSU, Clemson, BYU.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Okay, that's just a quick snapshot. On Monday, the AP poll elevated Oregon guys up to number one. Okay, so the fourth different program this season to be number one. That is the most since four teams were number one back in 2014, a decade ago. College football playoff committee in about two weeks time is gonna hand out our first little assessment,
Starting point is 00:21:30 our first look at the playoff grid. It got me thinking as this was happening, I'm saying to myself, 100% Oregon is gonna be number one in the AP poll, but are they the number one team in the nation, right? Cause I think there's some, I know there's some conversation out there of who really is the one team in the nation? Right, because I think there's some I know there's some conversation out there of who really is the best team in America, put aside the preseason rankings, put aside
Starting point is 00:21:51 everything. So I said, you know what, let's ask Mark, let's ask urban who their top five teams in the country are right now. And we're looking at resume coach, we're looking at schedule, we're looking at what you have done for me. Okay. So the number one team, the best team in the country right now, Mark, go make some people in the Peachtree State happy. Georgia. Sing it.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Georgia. Sing it. Georgia. We just spoke about it. I can't believe you just did that. There are folks in Alabama right now losing their mind. They should be losing their mind about what's going on in Tuscaloosa and not on the post of losing your mind about what I'm saying because we got way bigger issues than me saying
Starting point is 00:22:36 Georgia is the best team in the country right now. We'll get to that in a second. You know what I mean? But yes, Oregon. Yes, you could easily say and justify why they would be ranked number one. Yeah, they beat Ohio State who we thought was is the who we still think is the most talented team in the country Who we still think is one of the best team in the country But Georgia the way they went into the way they went into Austin and Dominated a Texas football team who we all thought was the most complete team in the nation when their quarterback didn't have his best game
Starting point is 00:23:02 It says a lot to me. It says that this team could win when it's ugly. This team could win purely off the strength of their offensive line, D-line, their running game, their pass rush, their ability to dominate in the trenches. They could win strictly off of that. Their quarterback, Carson Beck, who we all think is one of the best QBs in the country, he threw three interceptions, no touchdowns. So he wasn't really a huge factor in the game. Yes, he did make some great completions, did move the change, did have some good
Starting point is 00:23:28 completions, but he was not the difference maker who he couldn't be, who he can be. They went into Austin and dominated that game. So I think Georgia right now is the best team in the country because of the wins they had. They beat a Clemson team who was currently went number nine. Everyone wrote Clemson off after they beat him in week one. They made Clemson look look so bad everybody wrote Clemson off like Clemson is done. No now Clemson looks a lot better than than everybody thought. Clemson looks like a playoff team right now. Yes they're number nine. You know they're on a collision course with Miami
Starting point is 00:23:58 and then you go on the road beat the number one team in the country. They have a loss to Alabama who had to play out of their freaking mind in the first half and they were still up at the end of that game. So this Georgia team is still finding ways to put, put it together. They're not playing the best football and they're still winning and they're still dominating. I chose them to win the national championship earlier in the week on big new kickoff and right now I look like a pretty damn good analyst, but, um,
Starting point is 00:24:22 they're the number one team in the country right now in my book. All right. You ready for mine? I'm going to go, uh, I'm going to go to me. And I think this is very slippery slope that the entire college football community voters have to watch. You have, you have to give great value to who you beat because the non-conference games are going to be awful unless you do that
Starting point is 00:24:47 Ohio State played a you know, really poor Non-conference other teams have played no one, you know, I'm looking Penn State. No, they did play out West, Virginia If we want to keep encouraging value games early you have and I always have who you're beating and I'm I have 1a 1b, but I'm going to go to the dogs. Number one in Oregon, number two, just because the dogs played Clemson. They, they got lost Alabama, but they went on the road and beat. I thought the number one team in the country, Oregon, they beat them at home and it could have went either way at the end. So Oregon's right there as well.
Starting point is 00:25:20 I got Ohio state third, but the dogs to me to do what you did, there's got to be great value in that. And I think so much value in that, that they're the number one team in the country. So both of you guys agree Georgia, the best team in the nation. I agree as well. Remember there was that narrative starting with the comeback they had in the second half in Tuscaloosa where there was that belief like hey man Georgia came out of this better than Alabama did even though they got tagged with the loss so quite frankly stoner yes Georgia has been on the up since that second half agree Bama has been Bama has been on the down since that second half well and you just kind of say that they kind of exposed us because we've had two losses in the last three
Starting point is 00:26:04 games since plenty of people have been exposing you guys this year. So we all relax, relax. We don't need all that. I'm just pilot. This is the it's the inner Vanderbilt in the by the way, by the way, the state of Tennessee to win Oh versus Alabama this year, Tennessee and Vanderbilt. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:26:21 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That came out of nowhere. I didn't mean to do that to you, Mark. So you we all agree all three of us agree right now now, looking at everything that has transpired so far. Georgia is the best team in the nation. Coach, you say number two is Oregon. Number three is Ohio State. Ohio State's only test out to Autzen falling by one point because they needed one more second left on the clock. Mark, and that's today on October 22nd.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Correct. It could left on the clock. Mark, I go back to you. And that's today on October 22nd. Correct. It could change on the journey seven. Very, yes. Today on October 22nd. It could change on our flight home Saturday. All right, so Mark, who's two and three for you? You've got Georgia at one. I got the Ducks, Oregon at two.
Starting point is 00:26:58 So you guys agree one and two. Yep, they had an impressive win. You talk about the quality of wins. They don't have many. They almost lost the boysies It's Mac Purdue Friday night. Yeah that road home. Oh straight belt to You know belt south wrestling belt to ass No, but I got I got the ducks man just because of what they were able to do at Ohio
Starting point is 00:27:19 I mean with Ohio State coming home Obviously that game could come either way but they found a way to get the win. And so I got to give them that because I think that was the most, the second most impressive win of the season after Georgia's beating Texas. So I got the Ducks at two, I got Ohio State at three. I still like Ohio State a lot. I still like the Bucs. We're going to be up there in Columbus and they will have their say. They will have their say. They will have their say. Oregon. Two weeks time they're at Penn State. They will have their say. So I'm gonna leave them at three and then four. Who do I have it for? I know who you have it for. Texas. I have Texas. I have Texas at four. I have Texas at four because they just lost, they were number one,
Starting point is 00:27:59 just lost to who we think, who I think right now on October 22nd is the best team in the country. So we can't punish them too bad. Drop them down to four, go from one to four. You dropped three spots, I think that's fair. Yeah, so this is where things get interesting. I wanna get coaches number four first, Mark. And then this whole four, five, six, six mix gets interesting.
Starting point is 00:28:17 So Mark, you've got Texas at four. Coach, who do you have it for? Yeah, I wanna add this too, because I think this needs to, at some point as this playoff thing continues to grow, I want to add this too, because I think this needs to there at some point as this playoff thing continues to grow. Jimmy Johnson in the NFL draft, he provided value for each pick, the number one pick versus the fifth pick versus the second round second pick. I think there has to be some kind of numerical value assigned and they all the conferences get together.
Starting point is 00:28:42 And when you go beat Texas at Texas, that is worth 36 points. When you go beat a team that has not one player that could play on your squad, that's a zero. You get no points for that. And I think that's just gonna not only encourage, but you have to play good people or college football is gonna take a major hit. So I'm gonna go on record, that has to happen.
Starting point is 00:29:05 And coach, remember the SEC Big Ten had those meetings a couple weeks ago. I think that was one of the main things in mind, a lot of other factors, but schedule. Getting SEC Big Ten teams to meet non-conference schedule early in the campaign, everybody wins. But if there's no value, Rob, we've seen that. If there's no value, just play on an awful schedule, find a way to get in a
Starting point is 00:29:26 playoff and all that, you know, I completely disagree with that. That can't happen. And so someone's going to, and I know Ohio state's got, I believe Texas and Alabama coming up in the next four years, but you know, whoever made that schedule this time around, it should be zeros. You don't get any, you don't get any value for that. Where Georgia played Clemson and then all of a sudden, so I think that's, and then that's why my number four and five, I have Penn State, Miami and, I have a real struggle with that. You know, at West Virginia though is a decent win.
Starting point is 00:29:59 It turns out it wasn't that great a win, but I think that's not bad scheduling. A win at USC for Penn State. Yeah, but if the Miami Hurricanes ought to be playing scheduling a win at USC for Penn State. But if the Miami Hurricanes ought to be playing the top 10 team every year. Yes, Miami Hurricanes. Well, they're supposed to be playing there or the state which is supposed to be a top 10 team. They're in the ACC, which is that that's conference. That's conference though, Rob, I'm talking there needs to be you
Starting point is 00:30:18 go out of conference. Yes, you have to or you get penalized big time. Yeah. They haven't played nobody at all, but they do have cam. Oh, cam. Hey, you're talking to cam ward this week. Aren't you on for big games? Yeah. I'm going down to core games to pull up on my boy cam ward. And just off of that strength, I'm putting them at five just because of cam ward
Starting point is 00:30:38 only, and I'm gonna leave Penn State at six just because they will have their say. So I can leave them at six because they will have their say. They will have their chance. They will have their time. And if they do then they will move up themselves. They will force themselves up. The time is coming. Tricky test for Penn State at Wisconsin this week. We're gonna talk about that a little bit later. Might be a look-ahead game? Might be a look-ahead game? And then they host Ohio State live on Fox.
Starting point is 00:31:05 So Mark, Georgia, Oregon. Better be careful, Nitty Lyons. Better be careful going into Camp Randall. Ohio State, Texas, Miami. Then at 60, you have Penn State. Coach, Georgia at one, Oregon at two, Buckeyes at three, Penn State at four. Then talk me real fast through five and six. I got Miami, Texas, and I'm not comfortable with it.
Starting point is 00:31:25 That's gonna change so many times. Are you comfortable with four, five, and six, right? Like one through three, I think we're all good. At six, you can put five different teams. You can put Tennessee, LSU, Clemson. LSU has A&M coming up, they win that game. Give Iowa State some love, give BYU some love, why not? Sure.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Why not? That's why I don't love it. At six you could hey, roll the dice. Blindfold me. Let me throw a dart at one of them. Like number six like some additional national title odds courtesy of our good friends at bet MGM. They see it almost the way we see it. We see it pretty much as a three team race. Currently, they look at as a four team race, Georgia is their favorite plus 350 Ohio State plus 450 Texas and Oregon tied at plus 500 and then a big drop
Starting point is 00:32:16 Penn State sitting there at plus 1400. So again, you guys all agree Georgia, Oregon, Ohio State, one, two, three in our V triple option look at the top of the rankings. All right, now the best of the rest resumes brought to you by our great friends at ZipRecruiter. Try ZipRecruiter for free. You just have to go to ziprecruiter.com, put that slash in and type in option, ZipRecruiter,
Starting point is 00:32:43 the smartest way to hire. So the best of the rest resumes brought to you by ziprecruiter.com. Coach, there's a team that you used to coach that has one loss that is still somehow lurking in the mix, the Irish. Yeah, they had a catastrophic loss to the Northern Illinois, but they're getting better.
Starting point is 00:33:06 I still don't know enough about them. I've watched them. When you see their schedule, it's just okay. They got an undefeated Navy, but I always looked at there's not one player on Navy's team that got recruited by Notre Dame. I put them there. It's a team to watch. They're not going to be challenged until, well, they did.
Starting point is 00:33:29 They beat A&M, they beat L&M and they beat Louisville, but they had a catastrophic loss. So I'm putting Notre Dame as a team to watch that I think will for sure get in the playoff with their schedule. I know they have, you're talking about Notre Dame, quality players, quality coach. I'm picking Notre Dame as a team to watch.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Coach, can you imagine? Notre Dame is curly in. if they didn't have that home loss to Northern Illinois? Oh, sure. We're talking time be at five. Yeah, right. They would be in that mix with with the Miami and the Penn State's an underdog days curly in coach, you got to pick somebody on outside. I'm with coach though. They're still outside because nobody's really talking about them right now. Yeah, but they're 12. They're in. It's a 12 with a with a number attached to it. I think they're they're saddled. All right, Mark, give me another team. Actually, they actually they're out, right? Because
Starting point is 00:34:16 boys would be in as a group of five. Right now. So actually, you're right, coach. My fault. I apologize. Jumping on coach over there. They are out. On you coach. right, Coach. My fault. I apologize. Jumping on coach over there. He jumped all over. They are out. They are out. It's on you, coach. All right. Give me another mark. Give me another team that's out right now.
Starting point is 00:34:31 That's that might be in. You we just talked about them. That team out there in Bloomington. Hold on. Get the mark. What's the mark? Get the Indiana Hoosier. Who? Who? Who? Who's ours?
Starting point is 00:34:43 Who's your daddy over there in Bloomington? Who's your daddy? Man, we talked about Indiana and what they could do man coach dignity has this has a team playing at a high level They're exciting to watch it feel now. We talked about Curtis Rourke thumb injury Thumb surgery thumb surgery. He's out for a few weeks. Well, now they're saying like, they're playing this game really good, I like it, Mark. It looks like he's gonna be out for this weekend for the Washington game, but he might get back.
Starting point is 00:35:11 I think it's for the Michigan State game. And again, remember, remember, Indiana, Mark, they are favored in every game up until their trip to take on the Buckeyes. They would be 10 and 0 going into Columbus. Yes. Wow. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:35:28 And I like them. I like them. They have a true opportunity to be undefeated going to that game. And that would be a big noon game. You know what I mean? On our air. But now they have Taven Jackson. He came in.
Starting point is 00:35:41 He did good in his backup duty. Seven for eight. only one in completion, two touchdowns. So now he has to take the reins. Now he has to prepare to be the starter for the next few games because this team is a team that has everything they need to be coaching players, execution, the chip, the hunger. They have everything they need to go ahead and make a run. So as I'm looking at on the teams on the outside looking in
Starting point is 00:36:07 Indiana controls their destiny, but the quarterback situation is something to very keep an eye on I'm gonna throw one program out there Texas A&M six and one They held firm at number 14 in the AP poll this week. They have a big one at home poll this week, they have a big one at home. Number eight LSU this week on the road at South Carolina, they still have Texas as well. They have a win over rank Mizzou their loan loss to Notre Dame. Watch out for Texas A&M and notably missing Mark. You get to chime in here in a second Alabama who lost to Tennessee this weekend the loss marks the first time the tide have lost two sec games before
Starting point is 00:36:48 November since 2006 the year before Nick Saban was the head coach and that is your Saucy nug of the week try some at your nearest Wendy. So mark what is going on? Give me a brief synopsis of what's going on in Tuscaloosa. Okay, brief, right? Brief. Okay, because we can go on a whole synopsis. But the brief synopsis is they don't deserve to win. They're not playing winning football.
Starting point is 00:37:15 When you give up penalties consistently, they gave a lot of penalties at Vanderbilt. Then you go on the road at Tennessee giving up penalties. You go on the road at Vandy, they run down the ball down your throat, make you like it. You go on the road at Tennessee, they run the ball down your throat, make you like it. You turn the football over on offense. In the red zone, you can't run the football on offense. You can't stop the run on defense. These are all things that are glaring issues for the Alabama Christian tie right now. And then my why I say this, the defense played well enough to win that game. They had to get two stops towards the end of that game to get the ball back to the offense to go ahead and have a chance to win. We get into a third of five situation. Tennessee's barking at our player. he pushes him in the face.
Starting point is 00:38:05 We get a personal foul penalty. Now it's 4th and 20 plus. You don't have nothing in the playbook for that, coach. You don't have nothing in the playbook for that. Then the defense gets the ball back to you again. A minute and some change left to go down, try and score. Interception, first play. This team is not, they don't know how to win.
Starting point is 00:38:25 In order to learn how to win, you must know what keeps you from losing. In order to learn how to win, you must know what makes you lose. And right now they're playing losing football. Discipline, penalties, turnovers, physicality at the line of scrimmage, all these things are glaring issues for the Crimson Tide.
Starting point is 00:38:42 And they just got to get together, man. They got to get together. Cause if they don don't they go to the Death Valley too. They got they got Mizzou coming at home. They go to Death Valley. This thing could get sideways. They got those they got those Barners. They got the Barners. They got the Barners.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Now if they do what they do handling their business they might have a shot. You know what I mean? They still have a shot. They have the talent. They have the team but they are not executing. They are not playing winning football. So that is the bottom line. That Bama conversation was triggered by your Wendy's saucy nug of the week. You know, she's
Starting point is 00:39:15 you know, you know what I like? I like bonus Wendy saucy nugs, particularly when they're served up hot and fresh from coach. Coach has got ourselves a bonus saucy nug. I love this story. Yeah, I'm in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and my awesome daughter, Nikki, and her kids, she watches our podcast every week. Shout out to Nikki. And so Nikki made it very clear that the other day,
Starting point is 00:39:37 she's driving, they're listening. She makes them listen as she picks them up from school. Nikki, we love you. Over the headsets and your saucy nugs came up and as then they're driving by Wendy, she pulls in the order. She's never had them. She ordered them. The kids blew up. It's a daily routine now. Wendy's so that is a saucy Nicky Meyer Dennis nugget of the week. Nicky Meyer Dennis, we love you.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Dennis Nugget of the week. Nicky Meyer, Dennis, we love you. Hey, all that is, is good parenting. Yeah. Coming up next, we are joined by Baltimore Ravens running back Derek Henry. Stoner always is the intro guy, the best host in the land, but I had to do the honor today, man. guy, the best host in the land, but I had to do the honor today, man. It's my boy, King Henry, the man, the myth, the legend, the Heisman, the high school phenom, the everything, Mr. Everything, Mr. All World, new to the 10K Club, the best
Starting point is 00:40:42 running back in Alabama history, the GOAT himself, the 10K,, the best running back in Alabama history, the gold himself, the 10K, Hunter T.D., newest member, Derek King Henry in the flesh. Yes, sir. On the triple option podcast. Yes, sir, yes, sir. My boy had to pull up on us and I had to, hey, this is my boy Rob Stone right here,
Starting point is 00:41:01 the best host in the land. He done done every sport that you need to know from PBA to FIFA World Cup to Wiffleball to air hockey to the big new kickoff. He the greatest in the land. Come on man, I just wanna hear from Derrick. I'm just so happy to be surrounded by greatness right here. Oh man, this is a rockin' podcast man.
Starting point is 00:41:19 He ain't did a pickleball yet. He ain't got a pickleball. Give me time man, give me time. Give me time. Let. Give me time. Give me time. Let's not rush things. You want, that sounds like a challenge by the way. You want a piece of me at the pickleball court, Derrick?
Starting point is 00:41:30 Oh no, I ain't good at the pickleball. But he didn't name it on the stuff. Like he had to do pickleball. He ain't do pickleball yet. That's a new thing now. Once Fox acquires the rights, I'll pick that one up for you, man. Okay. Man, fresh off of a big night for my dawg 15 for 169.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Got a tutty, a recept back, versatility, man. How you feeling, man? How you feeling right now? Feel great. That was a great team win. It was a good team who's been balling and glad that we was able to put it all together to get a win. So yeah, I'm feeling great.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Got another one this Sunday, division game against the Cleveland Browns. So, create some momentum going into the week, going to the division game for sure. So we see you in the facility, man. What's going on for the king the day after running people over and outrunning people and stiff arming and- Oh, he didn't outrun everybody, by the way. Didn't outrun everybody. I know, man. I did.
Starting point is 00:42:27 I did. Bro, I know you the king, bro, but like, give yourself a little break. The man is 190 pounds. He run four three. And he, as soon as you busted out, pause, he just went straight for the pylon, bro. He just went straight for the pylon. All. He just went straight for the pylon.
Starting point is 00:42:45 All I could have told you was, when you seen him trying to, you could have went back inside. I ain't even seen him, that's the thing about it. I ain't even seen him. It was like, I was like, I don't know. Cause his jersey was, I don't know. I ain't even see him.
Starting point is 00:42:58 I ain't even see him at all. Cause he got up on you quick and like hit you in the hip. I'm like, oh, you should have like beat them back inside. I know, I did. I probably should have cut cross-f hip. I'm like, oh, you should have like, beat them back inside, then up. I know, I didn't. I probably should have cut cross field. I would have, because once I broke, I'm looking at the end zone.
Starting point is 00:43:10 I ain't looking at nothing else, but I should have looked to see if anybody was trailing and I could have probably cut across the middle of the field and made a mess and score, but that's for another time. We're getting a new opportunity. And we saw your comment about getting chased down there and you were frustrated at yourself saying, man, I gotta get back out to the track
Starting point is 00:43:29 and work on that breakaway speed. Are you being serious here? No, I mean, I make jokes of myself. You know, you gotta have some humor to the whole situation. You know, a lot of words on the team was messes with me about that. But me being from Florida hurt my pride a little bit.
Starting point is 00:43:45 But, you know, it's just a little laugh moment joking with myself. I'm not serious. I'm 30 years old. I'm still hitting 21 at 30 years old. And I'll take it. Hey, man, forget them people, man. Hey, it's how you feel, dog. And you told that thing better than anybody in the league right now.
Starting point is 00:44:01 So how does that even feel, bro? Because when they when you turn 30, they just they just suppose like you're going to fall off. does that even feel, bro? Because when you turn 30, they just suppose like you're going to fall off. How did that feel, bro? Coming from Tennessee last year, went for 1100 yards and 12 TDs just last year. And these people talking about he 30, he going to be old, he ain't going to be the same. What's that about, bro? What that made you feel like, bro? Yeah, really, I just wanted an opportunity. I knew I still had a lot left in the tank, and then being a free agent,
Starting point is 00:44:28 just seeing who was interested in, I wanted to be Baltimore, and it was Baltimore. It was not the Cowboys. The Cowboys were, if Baltimore wasn't interested in, you know, that'd be another good spot to go to, because I live in Dallas. There's been so much talks about, I want to go to the Cowboys.
Starting point is 00:44:47 That's what I wanted to be. You know, I wanted to be here in Baltimore, and thank God it happened. But being 30 years old, in that position, you know, that comes, that stigma is always going to be on a running back position, no matter who you are,
Starting point is 00:45:00 just because that's the nature of the game, as far as age and the position. But I don't focus on that. I know I can still play at a high level and thank God I've been able to play this long. We've been training in the right direction so far this season. Why is 30 that magic number for running backs? magic number for running backs? I don't know, you know, the statistics of the position and especially guys who have success early, who get a lot of carries and they have a lot of mileage.
Starting point is 00:45:38 And then once you get up to that age, then you kind of see a little fall off as you creep into the 30s and 31s. But there's been some guys who've had success, but it's not a lot of guys that had that much success. But I mean, I understand it, but I don't accept it. So I'm gonna write my own narrative and work as hard as I can to have success
Starting point is 00:46:08 and help my team and do my job the best way I can. Yeah, you are doing that. You doing that, because not only do you got one MVP on the Ravers for the conversation, there's two. And I'll argue it's Lamar and Dean Henry, one and two. You challenging L Jack, L Freakyaky man, to the MVP right now. No, I think it's L's.
Starting point is 00:46:29 I mean, I don't think it's no question, you know, who's number one MVP right now. The guy is playing better than he was when he won his first and second. So it shouldn't be no question, man. This guy's unbelievable, man. You know, being his teammate, you know, it's just like, I mean, just.
Starting point is 00:46:47 He different, right? He different. What's different about him? He is one of one for sure. He is one of one for sure. What makes him one of one? What makes him different? I know, Marc, you felt that way for years.
Starting point is 00:46:59 But what have you seen in only the next months? I'm like, seeing Marc, I mean, Marc, we see how hard it used to go for L, and the energy Mark had when he was here. I see it now being here now. L's just a great teammate, man. And there was so much, I wouldn't say so much hate,
Starting point is 00:47:20 but people doubted him so much, cause his style of play and, you know, um, you know, him winning MVPs and the playoff stuff, man, L is a dog, man. He's, he's one to one, one of the greatest quarterbacks, um, to, to, to play this game and we chasing something and we all know what we chasing and we know we gotta keep working and getting better throughout the season to get to where we wanna go. But he works hard at practice, he's a leader,
Starting point is 00:47:54 he demands excellence from his team, from his teammates. He communicates what he wants, and it just shows on game days when we go out there and plays, a dude is electric in every single way. Rob Markman Yeah, for sure. Man, I'm proud of you dawg because I remember about your rookie year, man. We spoke, man.
Starting point is 00:48:19 You were frustrated with just how things was going. I was like, hey man, just control what you can control. Stay focused, stay locked in, keep working, and be ready for your opportunity. And you did more than that. Because now, one of the few guys to reach 10,000 Russian yards, man, you coming up on 100 Russian TDs, you got 100 total.
Starting point is 00:48:38 So you are a member of the 10K 100 total TD club, coming up on 100 Russian. But what does that mean to you to be a part of a 10,000 yard Russian club? Something that only the elite, some of the greatest ever to have done it. But before that, man, I was thinking about that the other day.
Starting point is 00:48:57 That meant a lot to me for you to do that for me, to take your time out, to give me advice and be that big brother that I needed in those times. And I'll never forget that and will always appreciate that. I looked up to you, even going to Alabama and then you have success in the league and you taking your time out your day,
Starting point is 00:49:22 you got a family to make sure my head was on straight and, you know, still to this day, you know, I think about those times, man, cause that's molded me to where I am today. And to get to this point in my career and reach those milestones, man, and without those conversations, you know, I had with you and, you know, Coach Burns
Starting point is 00:49:44 and many others, I wouldn't be where I am today. So I appreciate it all. And I had a lot of great teammates and coaches that helped me accomplish all these milestones. And I'm just thankful, bro. Well, I appreciate you, dog. Shoot, you had the same impact on me.
Starting point is 00:50:04 And that's the brotherhood of the tie. They don't know about that. That's the tie, man. That's the brotherhood, man. You set the standard, dawg. You set the standard. Amen. On and off the field.
Starting point is 00:50:12 I appreciate you, bro. On and off the field, my dawg. But you, you elevated that mug to the, to the, and you keep it elevating it. My boy about to run for 2K out here this year, man. Come on now, quit playing with him. Derek, you said you look up to Mark Ingram. Yeah. about to run for 2K out here this year, man. Come on now. Quit playing with him. Derrick, you said you look up to Mark Ingram. Yeah. But one of my favorite pictures in the entirety of the world. Do you know where this is going already or no? I know where it's going. Damn well you know where it's going. My friend Mark Ingram, and I know he's not looking at you,
Starting point is 00:50:42 you're at the coin toss for the 2015 National Championship. He hell boy, he hell man. He's an instigator bro. That's why he the best in the world at this. But I mean, the beauty of this picture is like, Mark, you're in this varsity jacket that actually looks big on you, right? Like it's almost kind of coming over your hands. So it doesn't help you. And then the staging of it isn't great because you're away from the camera and it just elevates Derek to make him look even bigger than he is.
Starting point is 00:51:14 But man, when you see that picture, Derek, I know you got a smile and I know a lot of people bring it up, but what pops into your head when you see this picture? I mean, good God, that is a piece of granite right there. And then there's some JV kid who borrowed somebody's varsity jacket over there trying to hang with the big boys.
Starting point is 00:51:32 I love you, Mark, you know it, don't you? That's all good. I know, I love that picture. What I got from that picture, well, only thing I remember from that, that time was the red bottles Mark had on. Every time Mark came to the game during the season, he had the red bottles on. So I was like, I got to get me some of them.
Starting point is 00:51:53 I get them in a dress. So Mark was always clean. That picture, I mean, it is what it is. He still is clean, Derrick. Internet always going to be on the feed when they get some. Oh, man. Everybody think it's fun. Every week on Big Noon Kickoff, at some point I'll look down at something that Mark is wearing
Starting point is 00:52:11 and you had those shoes. He gets everybody talking about it. Even Urban Meyer is like, are those shoes heavy? Are those spikes on those shoes? What's going on? I had them botanicals on last week at the show. What's going on? I had them botanicals on last week at the show, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:52:30 In regards to that picture, the man is 6'4", 250 pounds without pads on. So throw shoulder pads and a helmet on. That's a linebacker, man. Yes. So throw the helmet on and pads. Now he's 6'5", 270. So I'm 5'10", 215 pounds in that photo. Luckily I didn't go out there with, I had a rotator cuff surgery.
Starting point is 00:52:49 So luckily I didn't go out there with my sling on and they would have thought he beat me up or something. But yeah, that's what happens when somebody is six, six, 270 pounds standing next to someone five, 10. It's not fair. Get off my back. You go stand there and the camera angle was bad. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:07 And everything else. But no, but that's my dog, man. That's my dog. But everyone, everyone, everyone that game. So, oh, you ain't crazy. I was a Natty, right? Kind of to that point. Yeah, that was the Natty against Clemson.
Starting point is 00:53:22 We ran across this little conversation, Mark. Everybody thinks they can play in the NFL until they play in the NFL. So is this Ant Man? Is this Anthony Edwards? Talk about it. Oh yeah, he knows what's coming already. Let's listen to what Ant has to say.
Starting point is 00:53:40 And then Derrick, the floor is yours. Trying to play safety? That's the only one we gonna know you serious? Once you take that first link. Coming up the middle, you and whoever. Me and Darren Herry. What? You call her Darren Herry?
Starting point is 00:53:55 Bro, do you know how ding ding Herry is? I ain't gonna pop him, but I'm gonna hit that. Bruh, how are you the first name to come out his mouth, bro? Like pick Austin Eckler, pick Deuce Vaughn, which he still would have a problem with cause they low to the ground. But you picked the king out of all people. What's wrong with this man?
Starting point is 00:54:15 No, I like it. You know, I like the confidence, you know, that's what you want. Especially somebody who, you know, you know, trying to make somebody who, you know, trying to make a challenge, you know, I like his confidence. And he did play football, and I heard he was pretty good, though, I don't know if he played defense,
Starting point is 00:54:33 I think he played offense. I mean, he ain't no small dude, so, you know, I like the challenge, because that mean he ain't gonna go low. He gotta go straight up with me, so. If he don't go low, his odds go down drastically. So, I'm an Edwards fan,. Like he liked that on the court. When you coming at the king now, you best to come proper
Starting point is 00:54:53 because that's still far. That's six five. I told him about like this. It's there. He gonna get ejected. I don't know why a lot of basketball players think football is just sweet. Like we just, I mean, it just, uh-uh. Most of them went to basketball because they played football and didn't want to take the hit so they went and permanently went to basketball. We saw my boy Draymond Green. He from my city.
Starting point is 00:55:17 We saw what he looked like on the highlights when he was at Michigan State playing tight end. You know what I mean? We might have to invite an NBA player to camp one of the times so they can see what it's like for real. Right. And then see what they think. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:31 No, but I want to talk to you, man. You know, my Saints struggling, my Ties struggling. So I'm glad that my Ravens balling because I could be happy on so I could be happy. But man, our Ties, they didn't drop to 15th in the rankings. They lost two out of the last three games, bro. Give some advice to the brothers, man. Give advice to the sci-fi, man. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:55:54 I mean, back against the wall now, you're still the same Bama team. I mean, did you have some adversity? Yeah. But that doesn't, that doesn't define you as about how you overcome it. Right. You know, you gotta have leaders step up, embrace that role more than ever.
Starting point is 00:56:21 The team gotta be closer more than they have been to be able to go on this run. Is it gonna be hard? Yeah, it's gonna be hard, but you gotta embrace that challenge. And I still feel like y'all the same Bama team. Y'all can play defense. You can score from anywhere on the field.
Starting point is 00:56:41 You got everything you need to be a championship Cali team, you just gotta go out there and do it. And I think these last three weeks, everybody's just thinking like, you know, before it wasn't no thinking, you were just going, going snap, ball snap, you go. And just play that style and play that way.
Starting point is 00:57:00 I mean, y'all still the same team, still got the same players. Just gotta take the thinking out of it, man, and go play with confidence. Play within one another, man, and go out there and play with your brother and go get a dub, man. We Bama.
Starting point is 00:57:13 It ain't no question we Bama, man. What the hell you play. Go get what you want. Sorry, how much Alabama football do you get to watch during the season, Derrick? I try to catch every game. Every Saturday. Every Saturday. Every Saturday.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Did you watch the Alabama-Georgia game earlier in the season? I watched every single game. What was your emotions going through that first half and then the comeback and then how it ended? I was chilling that first half. I'm like, well, I'm good. In that second half, I'm like, oh man,
Starting point is 00:57:45 we weren't scoring and messing around with Kirby, you in the world of trouble. You almost ended up in the world of trouble. But that's what I'm saying, man. We are that same team that beat Georgia. Were we flying off, hitting on all cylinders in the first half? Yeah, and then we had some versity in the second half, but we end up finishing the game
Starting point is 00:58:08 With a W. I mean, it's it's the same team. Um, yeah, we took a loss to D'Vanee which was shot into everybody but so what now what like close Burmese to say, right? You know what? I mean, which one what you gonna do? We got a you gonna do, we still got a long season, a lot of football left to play. Leaders gotta step up, man. We gotta just, man, keep babbling, man. Go ball, go ball. Don't play the ball.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Yep. For y'all don't know, he's talking about Coach Burns. He's probably the best running back coach in college football history. He coached me. Best ever, man. He's the best running back coach in the history history. He coached me. Best ever, man. Best ever. Coach Burn Burns. Stoney Ball, man. He the best running back coach in the history.
Starting point is 00:58:48 He's a legend. What'd you say? Stoney Ball? Yeah, Stoney Ball. What does that mean? It's just. That means you gonna go out there, play hard. You might have some blood come up your forehead. And if you do see some blood, you taste it.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Yeah. And you put the helmet back on, you go like, God damn. And tote that thing. Stick that foot in the ground and get north. You you put the helmet back on, you go like, God damn. And tote that thing. Stick that foot in the ground and get north. You know what the south, it burst. It burst. It burst. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:12 No, but we almost done with you, bro. We appreciate your time, bro. We know that you on a short week coming up just had traveling from Tampa, but 12,000 yards rushing I think that what was that a what's that a national record in high school a state record what's that national record the national record 12,000 rushing yards in high school Heisman trophy 10,000 in the league man you got the Heisman you got records man all we need you got Russian titles offensive players of the year man now we got to get that Russian titles, offensive players of the year. Man, now we got to get that Lombardi, man.
Starting point is 00:59:47 What does this team have to do? What does this Ravens team have to do to continue to improve, to make sure you guys are there at the end, hosting up that Lombardi? Yeah, really, like I said, we just got to keep having that growth mindset of knowing that there's so much room to get better and embracing that every single day on all three teams, offense, defense, special teams. I think we do that. I think the culture around here, we all embrace that.
Starting point is 01:00:13 We all embrace that brotherhood. And we on the field, we all, you know, we come to work. And the thing about it is we love coming to work. We love challenging each other and holding each other accountable. And I feel like that's a champion championship mentality. You have guys doing that and not afraid to, you know, uh, speak up or, you know, um, you know, hold each other accountable.
Starting point is 01:00:36 And somebody drop a ball or make a mistake. It's not that, you know, we, you know, it's trying to pick on each other. We just trying to make each other better. And I think we all do that on all three phases. We have great coaching staff. We do a great job getting us prepared. And we just gotta keep getting better week after week, no matter what happens.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Just focus on being one to know each and every week. Last thing, man, you spent eight years in Tennessee. I spent my first eight years in New Orleans. Nice season. I went to the Ravens. Your ninth season. That's crazy. Yes.
Starting point is 01:01:09 It's really crazy. I didn't realize that. That's crazy. Yeah. I did eight New Orleans, went to the Ravens on my knife. You went eight in Tennessee, knife you're in Baltimore. Some people are meant to be Ravens, dawg. And you don't really understand it until you're actually a Raven, bro.
Starting point is 01:01:21 That's why I told you, you was like, what about Baltimore? And I was like, I'm like, man, you gonna fool with that. You gonna love Raven, bro. That's why I told you, you was like, what about Baltimore? And I was like, I'm like, man, you, you, you going to fool with that. Like you going to love that, bro. Like what does play like a Raven mean to you? Like why was it a seamless transition? Why did you fit perfectly? Like why did you fit seamlessly into the Raven's locker room, to the Raven's culture, into that Raven's beautiful purple that you be toting that rock in. Why was it such a perfect fit? Yeah, it's a crazy one. When I was coming out of high school, I was getting recruited and Bama just kept sticking out to me.
Starting point is 01:01:59 I was like, man, that's how I want, that's my style of play. That's how I want to play football. That's something I want to be a part of. And I feel like I play like, and I felt it was that same feeling with the Ravens. Like, their style of play, their culture, and it was just something that I felt like fit me. And it was just, it was just bound to happen.
Starting point is 01:02:23 And the colors, when I spoke about, during the off season, my grandma's, my grandmother's favorite colors. And the day before free agency, seeing the butterfly, who had like, it was purple and red and black. I don't know, you know when some things, they feel destined, you know, I feel like the Braggans was just destined, you know, throughout my journey of playing in the league.
Starting point is 01:02:49 I feel like at some point it was gonna happen in perfect timing. Like I always say, you know, it never happens on your time, it's always God's time. And it's always perfect. A blessing from the Lord is here. I feel it in the atmosphere. He's got a blessing with your name on it. Yes, sir. It's the second time Marc has sung on this show this week already.
Starting point is 01:03:16 It's always praise and worship because we love the Lord and the Lord loves me. Jack Bautre, you can do it all, man. I cannot sing it all. I cannot sing. You can do it all, man. So I told him. I cannot sing it all. I cannot sing. But no, man. King Henry, man, we appreciate your time. Fresh off of Monday night, beast mode again,
Starting point is 01:03:33 only on 16 Tote. So I know you're feeling fresh, ready to go again. You know what I mean? Feeling good. I know you're feeling good, ready to go tote that thing again. But we appreciate your time here on the Triple Option podcast. My boy Rob Stone, Coach Meyer, told us to show you some love. And he saw he couldn't be here on here
Starting point is 01:03:49 on the interview with you, but man, we love you. We appreciate your time and go do your thing, bro. Go get that 2K, go get that Super Bowl. Go do your thing, my boy. Thank you, Derek. Appreciate y'all having me. Welcome back to The Triple Option presented by the Wendy's Rob Stone, Urban Meyer Mark Ingram back here with you. All
Starting point is 01:04:09 right, a little coaches corner right now with a player's input here. So coach this week, how about some of the blue bloods going down? I need I need two hands for this one. Texas, Alabama, Michigan, Southern Cal, Oklahoma, Florida State, Nebraska, all big brands in college football history. Are we a blue blood? Yeah, absolutely. You are all of them felt that it's not even close Mark Ingram. And then Alabama blue blood, for sure.
Starting point is 01:04:40 Maybe the season's a little quiet. It's all right. And then also, guys, this season season we finally saw some some coaches Getting fired Southern Miss Eastern East Carolina both moved on from their head coaches Oklahoma Utah even Coastal Carolina made changes at the offensive coordinator level So the pressure is starting to pick up coach There's enough of a schedule underneath everybody where they can kind of assess things and say this is not going in the right direction. So let's talk about that snapshot of say Saturday afternoon, Saturday night, Sunday morning. What it's like as a coach and
Starting point is 01:05:13 then Mark as a player after you take a big loss. What happens and how do you try and soothe it, make it better and move on. Yeah. I, that's something that I really struggled with. And, and when you're in a blue blood, a place that you're not allowed to lose, you know, and I remember my job description when Gene Smith handed me a piece of paper and said, whenever you game you play, never lose to the rival, graduate your players. And, and when you sign on, you get compensated very well, but it's also reality that the ex the expectations are really out of well, but it's also reality that the ex the expectations are really out of control, but I used to
Starting point is 01:05:49 tell everybody it's life in a big city is what it is, but I want to take everybody, you know, I want to take people through what actually happens. You lose that game. You have to go to press conference and just get destroyed. You have to go talk to recruits because you have to. And then you have to talk to your team. And as Lou Holtz used to say, that's not the time to dive into your team.
Starting point is 01:06:11 Everybody is so fragile. You're on a breaking point. And then here's what I'm not sure people are aware of. You get in a car with a police escort and you drive home. And obviously the way my body would somewhat shut down and I would head home and you know people always are visiting. If it happens at home they know they leave. You got to go home. I don't want to see anybody. You try to eat. You try to you know but you take I you take something to sleep whether it be'd be a rye whiskey, whether it'd be a Ambien, whether it'd be something, because you have to get some rest.
Starting point is 01:06:49 And I never did. I would sit there and stare at that ceiling fan or I'd stare at the clock ticking three in the morning, three 30 in the morning, four in the morning. And then I'd go, I'd go in and I obviously no one's there yet and you're in there and you're just, and I would beat myself to death because there's only a couple of ways to handle it. You know, you blame your players. I would never do that. You blame your coaches.
Starting point is 01:07:10 I was hard on, not hard, but I, I wouldn't fire guys. You know, some guys just start firing people. I've never did that. I fired really one guy and I would sit and I would review that film for six, seven, eight, sometimes nine hours. And I'd go through every scenario and say, why did we not cover that in a situation? Why is that player in that situation? And it, I mean, I'm here today sitting there talking on, on a triple option because of losses.
Starting point is 01:07:43 I can't, I just, I tried, I tried everything. I have friends in the profession like this as well. And I have other friends in the profession that are on to the next one. You know, move on. I was never able to do that. You know, there's still losses to this day, years ago, that still haunt me because, you know,
Starting point is 01:08:01 if you go get your ass kicked in by a better team, I'm okay with that. You know, when I was at a school that they had much better players and, and, but when you get to the blue bloods, that should never happen. There, there, there should never be a time mark when you look at, and I would tell our staff this, that you look across that sideline and they have better checkers than you do, right? If that happens, that's when the staff's got to have a come to Jesus meeting. How did that happen?
Starting point is 01:08:27 Right. Because at a blue blood, you should have the best of the best. A hundred percent coaching people. It's so funny because yes, you're at those blue bloods and the fandom is insane. The, the expectations are unrealistic. And, but you, when you put on those jerseys and those uniforms at those schools, you accept that. You take that on because that's what you're built on. That's what you're about.
Starting point is 01:08:52 That's what you want to continue to raise that standard. But nobody hurts more than the coaches or the players when a loss happens. These fans, these families, they always got something to say. It's mostly negative. They're trying to make you feel better about yourself. But no, everyone after a loss as a player, you have to take a look in the mirror. What could I have done better to help us win this game?
Starting point is 01:09:16 What could I have done better individually to help our team be successful? And it's just human nature for your family, for your friends to be like, oh, it was his fault. Oh, it was this. Oh, it was that. You're going on campus. People are looking at you crazy. Like you're going to the rec, you're going out to eat. People are looking at you crazy. People, you know, some people are encouraging, but like these are real emotions that players have to deal with on a daily basis. Like you, you still walking on campus with the other students who just watch you lose to Auburn. You're still walking on campus with the other students who just watch you lose to Auburn
Starting point is 01:09:45 you're still walking on campus with the fans that came to the bandy to why you just got beat and You just have to compartmentalize and remember what's important and what's important is your mindset your mentality What's going on in that locker room? What's going on in that team as long as that team stays together as long as that teams on the same accord As long as that team has each other's back, you have a chance to be successful. I want to add, I want to add Mark, excuse me, but you said something very key. We lost in 2015 to Michigan state.
Starting point is 01:10:14 I still think that's one of the great teams in college football that then won the title, probably the best team I've ever had ever had, including the three national title games, we lost that game in a rainstorm to Michigan State. I was non-functional. I mean, I was despondent. I remember going out to the practice field and my captain, Pat Elfline, who was my center, and Michael Thomas kind of grabbed me.
Starting point is 01:10:37 They could tell that they said, and I mean, grab me and, hey, we gotta go. We went on to beat the Wolverines and ran the ball for almost 400 yards and beat them by a, beat the mess out of them. And then We went on to beat the Wolverines and ran the ball for almost 400 yards and beat them by a beat the mess out of them. And then we went on to beat Notre Dame badly in the Fiesta ball. That was a national championship team. But what Mark just said, you can't rely on the outside to elevate you.
Starting point is 01:10:57 Your players and the players are, I live for that. When a player would elevate a coach, you just warmed me up, Mark, when you said that. Because that has to happen. That has to happen. It comes from within. And it's all that matters. My parents telling me I did good, my cousin telling me I did good,
Starting point is 01:11:15 that's not what's gonna change. It comes from the inside the building. And if the coaches have the players back, the players have the coaches back, and there's camaraderie within that locker room, that's when you have a special team. And coach, you reminded me. I played on an Alabama team that lost three games.
Starting point is 01:11:29 So I can't really talk bad about teams who have lost games. It was probably one of the most talented teams in the Coach Saban era, that 2010 team. We lost three games, but we were able to bounce back from each loss. We were able to bounce back. We finished in a bowl game versus Michigan State. We romped them. I ran for like a hundred yards and had a couple touchdowns in the first half. I didn't even play no more in my last game. So, but it's all about the team. It's all about being selfless. It's all about loving your teammates, picking
Starting point is 01:11:57 them up. It's not easy. Nothing in this game is easy. If it was easy, everyone would do it. And that's why they kicked the ball off, because you have to go out there and be ready to play. And if you go out there and you're not ready to play, you have mistakes, you're undisciplined, you have the opportunity to get your butt belted. So no, but um, I just want to close. I want to close this with this too, is that I heard a statement that losing takes part of your soul. That's a very true statement. It does. I still have losses that still, hey, it's the bad stuff you remember the most.
Starting point is 01:12:33 You remember the losses, you remember the bad coaching calls, I remember the fumbles. Those stuff take over your mind more than anything else that could happen. More than that Heisman, more than the national championship, more than being records at the Saints, whatever it may be.
Starting point is 01:12:48 I'm like, the bad things haunt you. Isn't that insane? Isn't that absolutely like a non-athlete doesn't understand that. Any athlete who's listening to this podcast right now, whether it was a bad race or a bad game, a bad meet, whatever it is, it's the negative stuff that jumps out at you and bites. I'd say, I'd say not. I'm going to correct you. Not every athlete, not every coach. It's a small percentage of people that live like that. Mark and Rob, the elite,
Starting point is 01:13:17 the elite coach, the three of us that are pained by these defeats, these losses. There are certain players that, you know, there's no care and move on. I don't care. There are certain coaches I've had that are certain players that, you know, there's don't care and move on. Don't care. Yeah. There's certain coaches I've had that one's payday or, you know, Hey, can I get a, you know, what about then there's other coaches that, and those are the ones that I kind of attract, you know, that I wanted around me is that don't, there's an answer to this.
Starting point is 01:13:39 Don't lose. Yes. And how do you not lose? Makes you cover every possible scenario. Don't worry about wearing lucky t-shirts and rubbing the rabbit's foot or any shitless stuff like that. You take care of your business and do exactly what you're supposed to do to get your players ready to play. I love when we get coach fired up, Mark. Right. Like, can't you you can feel the decibel change the ball coach, you can tell.
Starting point is 01:14:04 And it came out last week in Bloomington when he was, he got to talk about good coaching when we did your urban's playbook on the field coach, Oh, urban is so happy right now he's in his element. He's beaming, he's talking, he's swinging his hands. So for the fans that don't watch big noon, you should for the fans who don't watch big noon. You should, but coach Meyer did the playbook on back shoulder throws and he was lit about it. He got real excited about it.
Starting point is 01:14:28 And then in the first half, they had to have about four, five back shoulders in the game. I said, Oh, I know coach happy right now. Vindication, baby. Vindication. Oh, I loved it. I loved it coach. All right. Time now for pick six brought to you by bet MGM place your money line prop parlay and same game parlay
Starting point is 01:14:48 bets at that MGM. Download the app today please gamble responsibly each week six games we pick it against the spread Mark's got his deuce deuce dog of the week bark for our current as of Tuesday and can change. Alright, pick six brought to you by bet MGM. I will start guys with one of five ranked matchups here in week number nine number 12 Notre Dame favored by 12 and a half against 24th ranked Navy they're meeting at MetLife Stadium in New Jersey Notre Dame is kind of
Starting point is 01:15:23 own this rivalry as of late. Six straight wins in the rivalry, including in 11 of the last 12 meetings. Navy's last victory over the Irish. Gotta go back to 2016. Let's give Navy some love, guys, right? 6-0 for the first time since 79. They've won every game this season by double digits.
Starting point is 01:15:42 Only three programs have done that this year. Navy, Army, and who else? Indiana. How about those three? How about those three guys? Again, Navy outscoring their opposition by 25 points a game. Tied for second best turnover differential in FBS this season. They are plus 12 in turnovers.
Starting point is 01:16:04 They've won the turnover battle five straight games. They're yet to lose a turnover battle. Their offense is is unreal, right? Averaging almost 45 points a game. They've scored at least 30 in every game this season. They're rushing offense. They go for 275 essentially a game. But, but, but Notre Dame D allowing less than 12 points per game this season. They've held all seven opponents under 25. In six of the last seven games they've held the opposition under 17. We talked about the great rushing of Navy. Guess who's pretty good against the rush? Yeah, Notre Dame. They only allow 113 a game. They've held
Starting point is 01:16:47 each of the last two opponents under three yards per carry. They're really starting to figure it out. Last week, Georgia Tech only found 64 yards on the ground 2.2 yards per carry. There is so much in me that wants to say Navy can pull off this upset at a neutral site, but I see Notre Dame guys winning it in East Rutherford, but they will not cover that pretty big spread. Alabama in action, Mark, at home. My goodness. On number 21, Missouri, another ranked game.
Starting point is 01:17:19 My goodness. Come on, Bamma. Like, come on, Bamma. Come on. You know, I'm still all, I'm throwing through Bam. We got the big Bam speaker in the building. Shout out to my boy Adrian Hubbard. We got the big Bam speaker. You know what I mean? I'm still Bam throwing through.
Starting point is 01:17:34 But listen, man, what are things you knew about Alabama when Coach Saban was the coach? They're going to do two things. They're going to take care of the football. They're going to play good defense. They've got multiple turnovers in three straight games and they're allowing over 30 points per game in the last four. Now they play, they have, they welcome a Missouri team coming into Bryant Dandy Stadium at Sabanfield. You like that now, huh? But listen, Missouri, I just came by the Missouri stock because I picked them to beat A&M and
Starting point is 01:18:06 they got your style. I don't know why that's still haunted by that. It's the bad things that hurt me. It's the bad things that hurt me. So screaming at Missouri when watching that game on Missouri, I picked them on national TV and they got the back blew in by a freaking A&M. They got the belt on the backside, they got mid-south wrestled.
Starting point is 01:18:32 Belt to tail. So I think Alabama is going to bounce back. Please bounce back for me. Please. I think they're going to bounce back. I thought the defense played a lot better. They had turnovers, they gave the offense more than enough opportunities to win the game versus Tennessee.
Starting point is 01:18:47 So I think the defense is going to play well. Jalen Milro last week had one of his worst games since probably Texas last year. So I think he's going to bounce back. The run game has to get going. Our traditional run game with Jan Miller and Justice Haynes, Dominic Lanius Grimmage, have to get better at that. We're not running the football like we usually do. Defense, we have to stop the run.
Starting point is 01:19:11 And you have Missouri coming into town who has Luther Byrne III, who has Brady Cook. They have a good offense, but they have been inconsistent. The defense hasn't been turning the ball over, and the SEC player, they're allowing over 28 points per game. So I see this as a game for Alabama to get back on track. So maybe I should pick Missouri because last time I picked them. Don't do it. They laid an egg.
Starting point is 01:19:35 All right. I got Bama in this one. I got Bama in this one. You got Bama. Team Big Noon kickoff in Columbus for the second time this season. The Buckeyes this week they stayed at number four. Following their bye week after coach that one point loss to now number one, Oregon, they are favored. Big spread here, 25 and a half points over Nebraska. Yeah, this is pure mindset.
Starting point is 01:19:57 Two teams that, one's a wounded animal. You know, Nebraska got, I mean, that was a beating that not many expected. I went back and watched the film and it was, it was, it was awful. And I know coach rule and, and Tony white, the DC are going to get some things fixed, but this is back to back road games and they're, they're not easy road games to go to Indianic, fly home, have to deal with all the nonsense and try to regroup and then get on a long flight to Columbus, Ohio.
Starting point is 01:20:25 And then you got Ohio State at home. They've had two weeks to get ready for this. I think this might be a beating again. I think the Ohio State's going to get that defense fixed. I understand Coach Day spent a lot of time over there. You know, the pass rush, zero sacks against Oregon. The secondary gave up some big hits. Nebraska just doesn't have the firepower like Oregon did. So I think this is going to, second half
Starting point is 01:20:50 is going to get a little nasty in Columbus. So I got Ohio State to cover. To cover. All right. So a get right game for the Buckeyes. They have been a little slow here and there. It'll be interesting how they start in Columbus. Let's stay in the Big Ten. Number three, Penn State. Favored by six and a half on the road at Wisconsin. Has anyone been paying attention to Wisco since they got thrashed by Bama at home back in week three? Maybe you need to. Wisconsin picked up their third consecutive win over the weekend. I know it was against Northwestern, but during this three game winning streak, they've outscored the opposition 117 to 16 and have allowed just one touchdown defensively. So they're sitting now at five and two. Last time we saw Penn State, what were they doing?
Starting point is 01:21:38 They were rallying to force overtime at USC. They eventually won it in OT. Nittany Lions, six and oh, 3-0 in the Big Ten. This smells, it reeks of a classic trap game for the Nittany Lions. Ohio State coming to Beaver Stadium next Saturday on Fox. I still feel Penn State we are is a little overvalued. They're State, we are, is a little overvalued. They're definitely, we are, thank you. They definitely have, they're gonna have some of those
Starting point is 01:22:10 look ahead, flash moments in them. But I'm gonna give some credit to James Franklin. He takes a lot of heat. I think he's really dialed in with this program this year and knows what they have and knows what they slash he needs to accomplish. Remember, there was that potential flag plant from his players at USC. And coach swoops in like he was on the flag team and just took
Starting point is 01:22:31 the flag and kind of ran away with it as as it was rippling in. He doesn't want to give anybody bulletin board material. I guarantee you he read that team the riot act after they rallied and won in OT at Southern California. He is not going to let them slip ahead of next weekend's massive game. Penn State wins and covers. How about that?
Starting point is 01:22:54 Covers, that was a tough one though, that was a tough one. Let's stay in the big 10 again, another ranked matchup, Urban. Number one, Oregon, favored by 21 and a half over 20th ranked Illinois. This is the first time in a dozen years that Oregon sits at number one. Back then, Chip Kelly was the head coach. Marcus Mariota was the quarterback and they held that number one spot guys.
Starting point is 01:23:20 You know how long they held it for? One week. One week One week will they hold on to number one longer this year, Oregon and Illinois coach Illinois goes across the country here in two of the best coaches in the Big Ten I really enjoy watching her teams play. I would put Illinois a second to Indiana but very close as far as taking good players and making them play great. They ran a fake pun against the Wolverines.
Starting point is 01:23:49 You watch that film, they were a better team than the Wolverines. Every which way they were, better coaching, better fundamentals, really, really good football coach in Beeloma. And then Dan Lanning, I think, is as good as there is. So this will be, I went back and forth on this 21 and a half is a lot. It's a big coach. It's a big. It's a lot.
Starting point is 01:24:09 But I think Illinois is going to slow that game down. And I think they're going to cover that spread. I think Oregon's going to win. They'll win soundly because I think Oregon is really good, obviously. I mean, that's an obvious statement. But I think Illinois is, they better sign him to extension. He's got to stay there for a while. Cause that's a really, really good football coach and staff
Starting point is 01:24:29 at Illinois. I love that fake punt too coach. It was perfectly executed. Remember they had the flashback. They were wearing the old school uniforms, the helmets that looked like those leather, the leather caps. The thing that made me the happiest,
Starting point is 01:24:41 I'm just, I'm going on an Illinois tangent here. Cause I love these types of stories. It's why I love in Indiana. It's why I love in Illinois. It's why I love college football. But I saw something from Brett Bielema that I didn't necessarily expect. The fans rushed the field, right? And the post-game interview with Bielema, did you see what he had in one arm
Starting point is 01:25:02 and what he had in the other arm? What he had? He had his had in one arm and what he had in the other arm? Hmm, what he had? His two daughters, he had his daughters in each arm and they had those beautiful little orange bows in their head and it was just one of those images that I know we've never really seen from Coach Bielema or at least I haven't experienced it but I've known him for a long time.
Starting point is 01:25:19 He's one of my favorite human beings. He's just a, he's an interesting cat who's having success. I'm really, really happy for him. I'm happy for his family. I'm happy for his little girls that Illinois is doing such, such good things this season in the big 10. All right, let's pivot last game coach. I'm sorry. No, Mark S E C A and M favored by two and a half at
Starting point is 01:25:40 home to sneaky good number eight LSU. This is an interesting. Two and a half? Two and a half. I thought it was three. It went down. People are taking LSU. Are you excited?
Starting point is 01:25:56 This is such an interesting matchup, Stoner, because both of these teams lost their opening game. They've won six straight since. Then now you have two polar opposites. You have the number two pass offense in LSU going against the number two rush offense of A&M. And I wanna highlight this matchup on the O-line, LSU's O-line versus A&M's D-line.
Starting point is 01:26:18 LSU hasn't allowed a sacks in four games, only two all season, while A&M defensive line led by Nick Gordon has had 12 sacks in three games so you think if this A&M D line can't get pressure on Garrett Nussmeyer in this passing attack he's gonna dice him up but this LSU defense is that's that's my key the defense was very shaky defense was very shaky we didn't know what they were gonna look like but they've held three of the last four opponents to what what they had three of the last four opponents to what i had
Starting point is 01:26:51 here where is that where is that yeah under 20 points so the rushing defense is doing a lot better so i'm going with lsu's defense to play a lot better i'm going with their offense to air it out LSU's defense to play a lot better. I'm going with their offense to air it out. And I'm going with the upset, the underdog of the week, LSU, the bangles, the Bayou bangles going in to College Station and getting the, arrrr, arrrr, arrrr, arrrr. Wow. Wow. Underdog of the week.
Starting point is 01:27:19 I'm going with the Bayou bangles. Arrrr, arrrr, arrrr. I don't think Nussmeyer's getting enough attention, getting enough love with what he's done. I mean, he is, you know, moving on from a Heisman Trophy quarterback and he steps in and what he's done in some of the drama that he's he's pulled LSU through. Man, he's he's sneaky good underrated. Hey, before we wrap up the show, want to remind everybody we are going to be in Columbus, Ohio this week for big noon kickoff. And we're going to be out and
Starting point is 01:27:46 about coach we're going to be mingling Thursday night at Urban Myers, pint house celebrate. We're gonna celebrate a couple things we're gonna celebrate the 10 year anniversary of the Buckeyes 2014 championship team. So many of those great players are coming back for the weekend. But also coach and I'll let you expound on this real quick, tickets available for that event at buckeyecruise.com. You can find it under important announcements. Proceeds are gonna benefit the Buckeye Cruise for cancer.
Starting point is 01:28:15 I know that's something that's really close to you and Shelly. Yeah, my mother actually in 1987 was diagnosed at Ohio State, had breast cancer, and this is before the James and They treated her like she I was a GA the staff and doctors treated her like she was the Woody Hayes mom they put her upstairs with a room overlooking the stadium and
Starting point is 01:28:39 Obviously, I didn't have a nickel to say hello back then But I said someday if I could ever give back, we can give back. So we actually built her a room on the 20th floor of the James Cancer Hospital. It's got memorabilia in there and then my father passed away of cancer too and it's the Bud and Gisele Meyer room for people that have or deal with tough times. And it's incredible, incredible staff. So all the money raised will support the Buckeye crews for cancer, the James Cancer Hospital.
Starting point is 01:29:06 Um, and it's also a 10 year reunion. It's one of the greatest runs and maybe the greatest three game run. I'm very biased. Maybe the three greatest game run in, in history. Uh, we had a back, a third string quarterback named Cardell Jones. He go in the national title in the first playoff era and it's been 10 years Mark Mark, since that day. So we're gonna, there'll be a bunch of players there. We're gonna celebrate it on the
Starting point is 01:29:30 field in Ohio Stadium. A bunch of players will be a big noon with us and then obviously Thursday night, if you're listening, come join. It's a great cause, a lot of fun. Big noon, triple option will be there and obviously the 10-year reunion of our national championship for a great cause, a lot of fun. Big Dune, triple option will be there. And obviously the 10 year reunion of our national championship for a great cause, the James Cancer Hospital. Yeah, coach, you gave me goosebumps, man. Gave me goosebumps. That's real.
Starting point is 01:29:54 Yeah, that's real, real. That's real, real. Excited, thanks for having us. We're really honored to be a part of that Thursday night at Urban's Pine House. And all the guys are kind of flying in early to make sure it can happen and be there to celebrate with you guys. Hopefully you'll have some time with us. Cause every time we go to Urban's Pinehouse and all the guys are kind of flying in early to make sure it can happen and be there to celebrate with you guys. Hopefully you'll have some
Starting point is 01:30:07 time with us because every time we go to Urban's Pinehouse, we're in that like fish bowl of the room. We first entered there. And I mean, like Mark, I don't know, you, you, you and Urban know that I'm the, I'm the outsider in that group and I can just feel the eyeballs staring a hole in the back of me and everybody wants a piece of you guys, particularly coach in there and the dudes don't act like you didn't have the fan pull up last time we was in pine house. My fam, your fan. Remember the soccer dude with the jersey. Colgate, baby. Oh my God. It is such a cool experience and coach. Thanks for having us. And again, if you're in the Columbus, Ohio area Thursday, find your way to the pine house, get on over there. And it's for it's for a good cause. And, you know, Mark has been known to clink glasses with with friends and fans out there every once in a while.
Starting point is 01:30:55 A little reposado, little reposado. Give me the tequila, please. please. That's how we're ending. That's it. That's how we're ending the triple option this week. We remind you subscribe to our YouTube channel, follow us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts as well as across social media 3x option show. Don't forget, submit those questions and we will answer them during the show. New episodes coming away every single Wednesday. Again, huge thanks to our sponsors, Wendy's, BetMGM and ZipRecruiter. Enjoy week nine and live by this motto, see what you hit,
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