The Trish Regan Show - BREAKING: Kash Patal OUT at FBI? Agency Under Fire For Finding WRONG GUY in Brown University Tragedy

Episode Date: December 16, 2025

The FBI is taking a beating after thinking it had the Brown suspect only for America to learn the suspect is still at large. Some of calling for Kash Patel to leave -- meanwhile, according to a new report out in the New York Sun, Dan Bongino may have already left the FBI. Why don't we have the suspect yet in the Brown shooting? Trish has A LOT of questions... Plus, police arrest Rob Reiner’s son.... Join Trish Regan for those stories and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

And we're live with a lot of really horrible news to tell you about today. I mean, horrible, horrible stuff happening over the weekend. Unfortunately, it was actually my birthday this weekend, but I certainly didn't like having to hear all that we did here. And we're getting new information into us at this moment on a few big stories. Specifically, I want to talk about Brown and what's going on with the FBI there. And I want to discuss not just what's happening at the FBI, but what's happening at the university because it's really pretty appalling to me that we are

this far into this and we still have no information. Of course, there's the story about the tragic death of the Reiner's allegedly by their son. Unbelievable stuff. Welcome to the program, everyone. I am Trish Regan. Good to have you here. Make sure you subscribe, share, like, all of that stuff. We begin today on new questions about the FBI, the FBI because you see, at this moment in time, it would be anticipated, expected that we'd have a little more. information to go on. I mean, maybe even a picture. Maybe that's Brown University's fault. And they're not off the hook. We're going to talk about the president of the university and the fact that she didn't even know, she didn't even know what class they were in, some six hours

after this tragedy occurred. How is that even possible? I just got, I'd like to know. I mean, wouldn't it be the most logical thing you would say? Like, what class were they in? What were they doing? What was transpiring? She had no clue. We'll get to that. But again, I want to begin here with Cash Patel under all kinds of pressure. They have nicknamed him Keystone Cash, you see, like Keystone Cops, you see, because the feeling is that this should have been handled a little bit better. You don't come out and say, we got the guy and then you don't. I mean, so much so that I'm just saying, and my interest is the country, my interest is the president of the United States. Donald Trump was out there saying, and I quote, this would be on Friday evening.

of 5.44 p.m. I have been briefed on this shooting that took place at Brown University in Rhode Island. The FBI is on the scene. The suspect is in custody. God bless the victims and the families of the victims. And we're thinking at that point, I mean, amid all the horror, well, at least they got the guy, right? Like at least whatever they're doing, they're doing something right. Only for him to them be putting out like 20-some-odd minutes later, the Brown University Police reversed their previous statement, the suspect is not in custody. Now, interestingly, it was, you know, the FBI taking credit and, you know, maybe it's the police's fault.

I mean, we're just going to say, but no, the police, it turns out, say that they were working off of the FBI. So this is like, whose fault? Whose fault is what? Let's first go to what the police are saying about why they chose to release the suspect. I mean, the poor suspect, right, who, like, 24-year-old from Wisconsin, former member of the military and they're like all over him. And then somehow he's not the guy like,

what the heck is going on people? I'm sorry, the suspect's still at large. They're kids still at Brown University in all of Providence, Rhode Island that don't know what to do because you guys haven't found the guy. I mean, don't you have cameras? We're going to six. This is a campus. Again, we're going to talk about that in a minute because I spoke with the source

who's very familiar with university security who told me, yeah, they got cameras, they got lots of them. So why is it that we have nothing? Let's go to the police. The FBI director specifically said in his tweet that it was a tip from Providence Police that led you all to Hampton in. Can you confirm if that's true? And what exactly was the evidence that led you to this person in interest? Yes, so there was a tip that came in, just like we were taking any other tips.

And that was keeping specifically identified a person of interest, which was this individual. And so we, our detectives got on it, just like they got in another, this specific one. it was actually picked up by the FBI and they followed through with it and they ended up coming. Boom. Okay, so you hear him saying the FBI followed through with this and this is how they came to get this suspect. All they had was apparently this video of the guy's back. I find that suspicious. Are they not giving us all the video?

Is some of the video not usable? I remember back when they were trying to find Charlie's killer and sources very close to the top people at the FBI told me that there was some internal commotion initially about releasing the picture of the guy, Tyler Robinson, who's alleged to have done it. And there were a lot of people in the local law enforcement and elsewhere in the FBI that didn't want to release that photo. It was actually Cash and Dan, that ultimately were like, hey, hey, you know what, we need the public's help. Right now they're begging for the public's help, but I just find this really peculiar that we have no picture to go on. Again, let's finish listening to the Providence police chief who, this is neither here nor there,

but has a rather heavy accent that you have to listen through. Let's go back. And located this individual of interest. And at that point, we did a thorough investigation, examined, ended up drafting some search warrants, came up with some evidence. But that evidence was examined, and we didn't have enough, obviously to be able to prosecute anybody. that person was released. Go ahead. So the person was released. So they didn't have enough. Yet, the president is out saying, we got him.

I mean, do you understand how bad this is for the FBI right now? Do you understand how it, look, I like cash. I actually don't know him personally. I love Dan. I think he might be out of there. Dan, Dan, you know, there's some stuff going on. I'm going to tell you about in a second. But I, you know, I love Dan. I don't know how he puts up with this.

I mean, as a reporter, I can't put up with this. Okay, I'm getting pretty damn sick and tired. of it. And you know when I started getting sick and tired of it? I got sick and tired when they brought in all those influencers to tell them all about the Epstein files. Woohoo, we got them, we got them, right? Pam Bondi had like a truckload of them. Oh, the files were sitting on her desk, except apparently they weren't and then she got a truckload of them and, hey, we're still waiting on all that stuff to come out. Don't forget, right? Time's ticking. It's in the matter of days. And I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,

I mean, this is a horrible tragedy. And I'm devastated for those families and we can talk about the victims. But I just got to say, what the heck is going on people? What the heck is Brown doing? What the heck is our FBI doing? How is it that you're putting the president in the position to say, hey, we got them. Hey, we don't. I mean, that is just terrible.

That is absolutely terrible. And you got the local police now blaming the FBI, which, by the way, CNN is quick to pick up on watch. In the meantime, I'm joined by CNN senior national security analyst, former assistant secretary of the department. Homeland Security, Julia Kayam, we just listened to John. Tell us where we are in this investigation. What's your first reaction? I think it's kind to call it a Manhunt right now in the sense that Manhunt generally means you know who you're looking for. If, at least from what we know publicly, they really only have the backshot, that we don't even know the identity, race, or visuals of the face of the person they're looking for. So as John was saying, you sort of have to do a regroup.

That regroup is happening in two ways. One is take a step back and figure out whether where they're looking is the right place to look. He had to have slept somewhere. He had to get gas if he went on 995. The second is the regroup of what we call the sort of incident command. And you saw that last night. I had never seen a local jurisdiction essentially throw the FBI under the bus, not just saying we're in charge, but saying, look, that lead that led us to the person of interest

who ended up not being the person of interest, essentially was run by the FBI. They said so explicitly. Yeah, they did. Okay, so this is, this is getting weird. And she's right. And she's like, I really haven't heard that. Now, I see one of you guys saying, look, it's a Democrat town, and you better believe it is, okay? Total Democrat town.

And you want to talk about a liberal organization. That would be Brown University. I mean, they're notoriously, insanely liberal. Like, that's the one place that you're really. I mean, I know it's brown, but man, you don't want your kids going to brown, okay? Like, it's like very, very, very liberal. And I'm just sort of sitting here going, why don't we have more tape? Like, they have this thing called the flock system, right?

And again, I spoke with the source. He's very familiar with how these university campuses run their security. And they have it. Like, did they just not have it up and running? Are they not releasing it to the FBI? one would think they would have to release it to the FBI, right? Does the FBI, like, I mean, I'm sitting here and I got, I got no excuses for you guys. I got no excuses.

I don't know what the A2L is going on with Cash Patel, and you got the one guy and then it's the wrong guy. I don't know what to tell you, except I guess the FBI is usually run by these, you know, former attorney types of which he is one. Maybe you need like actual people who have run criminal investigations. running an FBI. And you put your lawyers, your good ones, not Pam Bondi. Sorry, I mean, you don't miss for goodness sysit statute of limitations on James Comey and tell me you're a good lawyer, all right? Yeah.

We need really good people. And given what Dan Bongino allegedly was so concerned about with Pam Bondi, given that he might have one foot out the door, given that cash may not have a choice now because the president might just be like, what are you doing? It's not looking good. And we get serious stuff.

And I see one of you guys making the point that like if somebody else gets in charge the other team takes back over, yeah, you know, like they seem to have their act together. James Colmy knew all about his statute of limitations and how to run the clock out. Pam Bondi, she missed that one. And now I don't know what to tell you on,

Cash, but this is not a good situation, guys. It is not a good situation at all. All right? I repeat at all. We should be so much further ahead. We have the cameras. Why don't we have the footage? Why don't we have a picture of this guy's face that did this horrific act? It would not surprise me if Dan Bongino left. Dan Bonino is rumored to be out. Cash Patel may not have a choice. Dan Bonino, I think, is like, who the, you know what needs this? I'm out of here. baby. I don't know if this is true, but the New York Sun is a pretty good darn publication. And I know, I know personally that Dan had kind of had it up to here with Pam Bondi. And I don't blame them. I don't blame them. I've kind of had it up to here with Pam Bondi.

Thanks to that missing of the statute of limitations on James Comey. Thanks to the fact that the Letitia James things is just disappearing, despite what Bill Boltey found. Well, now this coming out in the New York. Dan Bongino's FBI office is empty and his chief of staff has moved on. Ex-Bodcaster may be gone come January 2026. FBI insiders predict. The former MAGA firebrands unprecedented in tumultuous tenure at the FBI, which is likely to end in January, 26 may have already started with his DC office now emptied out

and his chief of staff taking on a new role the son has learned. So that is just coming out within the last hour or so. FBI, as I said, very much under fire for the wrong guy. I mean, how does that happen? You understand the Keystone Cops reference. FBI's Dan Bongino expected to depart. We're going to put up a new lower third January, 26. Again, the New York Sun reporting that his office is empty.

His chief of staff has moved on. I know that sources, close to Dan said he had had it up to here with Pam Bondi. And he was pretty darn sick at how that whole Epstein thing was getting rolled out and in the kind of blame game that was going on and people trying to point the finger at him. And he was fed up. And sources told me that it was Dan or Pam. And if she stayed, he was going.

Okay, he was out of there. Well, she stayed. So when you look at a story like the one we're seeing right now in the New York Sun, in which we are being told his office is empty, I mean, you think he's on vacation? Like when this thing at Brown is going on? I don't think so. I mean, you wouldn't have an empty office. You wouldn't take out all your stuff just as you get a massive, massive, massive case.

I mean, that doesn't make any sense to me unless he's like, I've had it. You know, I'm out of here. I'm going back to podcasterland where I can say what I want and think what I want to think. And like there's, you know, I can ask the right questions because here I am as a reporter asking these questions. I hope Cash is asking these questions. I hope somebody's asking these questions. Why don't you have the tape for goodness sakes people? Why don't you have every inch of university tape? Is it that they just don't have any? I don't think so. I don't think so. I mean, typically you have pictures of people walking into the building and pictures. of people walking out. College police typically can do their own thing, right? They kind of live

in this own, like their own little land, and maybe they're saying, well, we don't have to share it. Well, you do have to share it, okay, legally speaking. You do have to share it because it's risen to that kind of occasion. And you would assume that they would want to, of course, do the right thing and cooperate with the FBI. Of course, we do know that Brown University being as liberal as it is might have, you know, I hate to even say this because I can't even imagine people thinking like this, but do they have their own agenda? I mean, we're going to get to that in a second because you look at what this, Christina Hall-Paxon, she's the woman who's been in the position as president of Brown University since 2012,

so she's had a rather healthy long tenure there, which is kind of unusual for a female president of a university because we've seen a Columbia cycle through one, we've seen Harvard cycle through one, we've seen MIT cycle through one. I mean, the UPenn lady, I mean, it was like they all became president of universities at once because we were living in the DEI, Me Too movement error, and all of a sudden you had all these women come in,

and then they got caught up in a lot of drama, and they're all out. But Christina Hall-Paxson, she's been there in her defense since 2012. I guess Brown was clearly ahead of the curve, right? Brown out there before anyone making sure they had a female head of their university, but this woman doesn't seem to know what day it is. I want to get to that in just a short moment because I don't know how she doesn't know what class this took place in. It took place in an economics class. We'll get to that momentarily. First, a quick shout-up for one of our great sponsors here on the Trish Rigan show, Balance of Nature. You know what? They have a whole health system

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was not one of them, you know, the come lately female presidents of a university like Columbia had and Harvard had and MIT had and UPenn had. She's actually had the job since 2012. And she ought to have known, right, when this horrible thing happens on your campus, don't you think that you would know, like what class it took place in? This floored me. This absolutely floored me. So she was apparently in D.C. She flies back after getting word of this horrific tragedy. And she's asked by reporters what class they were in. Now, I believe at this point, the New York Times, New York Times had actually already reported that it was a Principles of Economics review class. She's got no clue. Now, I kind of think, and, you know, maybe I'm just trying to.

to respond like a normal person. I mean, if you're president of the university, wouldn't your first question out of your mouth be like, oh my gosh, okay, how many, how many kids were in the class? Whose class was it? What class was it? Et cetera? I mean, it's just kind of a logical thing to ask, and yet look at this lady. D.C. when it happened and flew right back and I'm catching up right now. President, with all due respect, six hours after this shooting and you said, you don't know what was going on in that classroom? How does that happen? Would they take? taking an exam? Were they meeting for a club? I don't know. I don't know. Six hours later, and you're the president, and you don't know. I do not know. Well, that's kind of concerning.

Kind of concerning, kind of concerning, I would say, just a little concerning, I would say. I mean, yachts have known that. So, we don't have a lot of information right now. There are a growing number of people saying, you know, this woman is clearly out over her skis because she didn't know something as basic as that. They don't think she should be present in the university. I'll just say this. Why is it your first order of business when you send out this horrible, horrible note, alerting alumni in the entire community to what happened, why do you say in your first sentence that it was gun violence. I mean, how do you know this isn't targeted terror?

I mean, like what we saw with Charlie Kirk, how do you know? I mean, the poor girl that lost her life was actually the vice president of the Republican club. They had like all of 20 Republicans on campus at Brown. Yeah. I mean, she was taking on a lot of risk, right? Let's be very clear being outspoken about her opinion in a university like that. But she shouldn't have been taken on that kind of risk.

And we don't know what this is. Like we don't know, okay? Like this is, this is so frustrating to me because this happened on December 13th. We're now on Monday afternoon, late afternoon the 15th and we don't know. And they don't even have so much as a picture to share. There's no video, there's nothing even though they should have cameras. Were they all down? Like, come on.

And yet they're saying this is gun violence. I don't know what it is. right now. But that is not the first place I go when we talk about something like this. She writes dear Brown alumni and friends with deep sorrow. I write today to our extended family of Brown alumni and friends to share that our campus remains in deep morning after losing two members of our community to gun violence. Two students died yesterday during active shooting. Incident one remains in critical but stable condition and the Brown campus remained on lockdown overnight on Saturday morning. Police advise at the university that the shelter in place order

had extended to our full campus. Again, that's the first thing she says. She goes straight to this very political place, which to me, one, is not the right thing to be talking about at this time. And let's not forget, she doesn't even know what class, apparently, it was in. So why were there no cameras there? Anyone? Anyone? How can you tell you? How can you? tell me there were no cameras. Again, I spoke with a source, very familiar with university camera systems and security systems, and they have an entire video surveillance, flock system it's known as. So, how on earth can you tell me that you don't have a picture of anyone? I'm really troubled by that. I'm really, really troubled by that. And it's entirely possible.

Look, it's entirely possible that they're not releasing it for a reason. And I go back to how there were people within the investigative unit, both at the FBI and in the local police, when Charlie was killed that did not want to release the video, the picture that they had of Tyler Robinson. And it was actually Dan Bongino and Cash Patel that pushed aggressively to make sure that we had the public's help. So all we've got is a guy walking away. I mean, are they just more powerful in Providence, Rhode Island? It's possible they don't have a face visible sure that the image is too degraded,

that the angle is too oblique, or that the identity cannot be reasonably inferred, or for some reason, maybe they're making a calculated decision not to do that, but I don't think so. I think they need any help they can get at this point. And I think that this is not a good look for the FBI. Again, if you're just joining us, Cash Patel under fire, a lot of people in the media have started calling the FBI the Keystone cops. This is a little bit of good news that we're getting. The FBI has announced that they have found a plot that would have targeted L.A.

and ICE agents, and they have managed successfully to dismantle that. I guess they've made arrests here in these pro-Palestinian extremists. that we're looking to plant bombs in LA. It's horrible, like I told you, it's a horrible show. Like I was like, do I even, you know, I'm here through thick and thin, but I really don't like being here on days like today. I really, really, really don't. But, you know, this is a little bit of good news on the FBI.

In other words, if you can stop these threats before they happen, that's a very, very good thing. But what else is going on there? and why is it that Bongino is clearing out his office, allegedly? Again, per the New York Sun. Very, very, very good paper. And why is Bonino clearing it out right when, right when we need them? I'd say, right when we need them, because this Brown story needs some help.

This needs to get solved. You've got a very, very politically left campus, with a university president immediately going to the place that really, you know, just let it sit for a few days before you go into the political debate, for goodness sakes. You know, you can call it gun violence. I get it. You can do that. But look what happened in Sydney, where they have all kinds of, really,

what you guys would call great gun laws. And that's another tragedy that happened over the weekend. What a horrible, horrible time. This young woman was the president, vice president, I should say, of the, Brown College Republicans Club, Ella Cook was her name, 19 years old from Alabama, and it's believed that she was targeted. This is what the gentleman William Branson Donahue, who runs all of the college Republicans, he believes that she was deliberately targeted and that they were trying to get her because of her views on politics, right?

which have become so unacceptable nowadays because if you are if you are maga, if you are right of center, if you are anything other than extreme left, somehow now you are running various risks and it's not right. I want to show you, however, this is the other person that has just died. He's been identified as Mukhammed Adi Uv Marskarov, Umar Zokov, will forgive me for for that pronunciation. So that might throw some cold water on perhaps Ella Cook being specifically targeted, given that I don't believe that he was part of the Young Republicans Club at Brown. I would say this, though, and somebody, source I spoke with earlier today was saying,

not to interpret much from this because we don't know. In other words, if she was being targeted, and this is all like, you know, I hate this as a journalist to have to be operating. and the if, if, if, if, if, but it's where we are right now because we just don't know a lot. So these are all theories that are being advanced. If, in fact, Ella was deliberately being targeted as the head of the young Republicans is suggesting, then it is possible that others may have been collateral damage there. If she was the one that they were specifically trying to get, how is it?

You could ask that they would go after someone with the name will come. Why would anybody else be targeted? I don't know the answers to that. I don't know if she was specifically targeted, but with all the places that they could have gone, why did they go to an economics classroom? Ask yourself that. Why, why, why are there no cameras? Why was it an economics, principle of economics classroom? You know, there's, there's, there's, things that I'm curious to see from you guys as well. Like, what questions do you have right now? because I don't understand why we are this far into this,

and we just don't have much information. And I don't understand why the Providence police are blaming the FBI and why we're not getting more from the FBI. We saw this. The FBI director specifically said in his tweet that it was a tip from Providence Police that led you all to Hampton in. Can you confirm if that's true? and what exactly was the evidence that led into this person in interest?

Yes, so there was a tip that came in, just like we were taking any other tips, and that one came in specifically identified a person of interest, which was this individual. And so our detectives got on it, just like they got in another, but in this specific one, it was actually picked up by the FBI, and they followed through with it, and they ended up coming and located this individual of interest. And at that point, we did our thorough investigation, examined, ended up drafting some search forrants, came up with some evidence. But that evidence was examined, and we didn't have enough,

obviously, to be able to prosecute anybody, and so the person was released. Go ahead. I'm actually a question. Unbelievable. And unbelievable that we're in the, okay, we got them in custody. Now we don't have them in custody. You're putting the president in a bad spot. Okay, guys, like I'm just going to say it.

I don't know what's going on there. I don't know why Dan's leaving other than I think he made it clear. It was Pam or Dan. And Pam stayed and Dan's going. I think you can't put the president in the position of not having something to go with. So that's, you know, strike number one against the FBI and the local police. In terms of what's going on, though, at Brown, I really worry that Brown University itself is not being fully transparent with the people.

Because if they were transparent with the people, I think we wouldn't have the Brown University president, one, saying that she doesn't know what class they're in. I mean, did she know and she didn't want to reveal it? I think the New York Times already had. You got me. And then two, immediately going to this, okay, it was gun violence. Unbelievable.

I'm looking at Don Bacca's comment. comment about Sydney. And you look at what, you know, the horror, horror, horror that happened with what went down in Sydney. And he's writing, you know, despite what gun control advocates like to claim there's no real data to support that Australian gun bans and laws have really had any benefit at all. I mean, clearly, right? Now, you know, when you look at what, what just happened, you got people who have a religious craziness. to them that believe that our way of life is wrong and that they feel justified to take us out. You have people like that Tyler Robinson that are clearly mentally ill and go down these really

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In the world, seriously. I mean, this is what's dictating the future. And a reminder to subscribe to the show. I want to get to another tragedy. My gosh, one after another. Rob Reiner's son has been arrested on suspicion of murder after his parents' death over the weekend. His name is Nick Reiner and he had a history of problems.

He's the one, I guess, on the far right there, a history of problems. Here is the report actually out of Fox where they're saying he's being held on a $4 million bail. Rob Reiner and his wife, Michelle Singer Reiner, were found dead Sunday morning in their Brentwood home. Their 32-year-old son has been arrested on suspicion of murder and the death of his parents. they found knife marks. So this is obviously just a horrible, horrible tragedy, just a horrible, horrible, horrible story to even have to talk about with you today.

A spokesperson for the Reiner family has confirmed the death saying that they are heartbroken by the sudden loss. The younger Reiner had spoken out previously. This would be Nick Reiner previously in the past about some of his challenges. He had just moved back into the family's house. just a couple of weeks ago. This is a picture looking at from the Daily Mail of the family's house.

TMZ was, by the way, the first to report this. And when he moved back in, apparently things had been rather difficult. They'd had a party at, let's see, where was the party? It was at another celebrity, O'Brien's estate, and they'd had some kind of what the Daily Mail refers to as a blazing row.

He had a history of problems with drugs and a history of problems. He was homeless at one point, imagine, and that's him on the far right there. Imagine having all that money, his parents are living in a 20-some-on-million-dollar home, all that money, everything he could possibly have had going for him, and yet he was so struggling with drug addiction

and drug addiction that made him homeless. He had recently, as I said, moved back in with his family, and that horrible, horrible tragedy occurred. He is the number one suspect on this. A lot of in and out of rehab over the years. In 2016, he apparently told People magazine that he had been homeless for quite a period of time at times when he hadn't wanted to go and get treated.

He wrote a film about this called Being Charlie. It was directed by his father. It was based loosely on his own experience. with addiction. So just horrible stuff. And, you know, our hearts go out to the family. I know that, you know, probably none of you are much in terms of fans of Rob Reiner. The president certainly wasn't either. He accused him of having a very, very bad case of TDS. But nonetheless, you know what, no one deserves any of this. This poor girl in Alabama, the young gentleman from Virginia who forgive me whose name I had difficulty pronouncing.

None of these people deserve this. This is just such a tragic day, really, to have to come to you. And I got to tell you, I have a lot of questions about why it is that we don't know more at this particular time. Why do we not know more about what went down at Brown University? And how do we get a handle on this? I can tell you, the administration believes we get a handle on it by actually doing more to get the bad guys, right? To get the bad guys.

I want to go to Tom Homan, who's speaking about the need for Democrats to just stop picking on conservatives. Can we do that right now? I mean, look, we don't know why this young woman apparently was targeted. We don't know if she even was most of. liberately targeted. So there's a lot we don't know right now. But if she was, I'm just saying, you guys have to stop. Okay? It's not right. It's not right in light of what went down with Charlie just a short time ago. And now here we're dealing with this. We've got the FBI having to come out and say there are four suspects that were looking to take out ICE officials in L.A. Come on.

Like, this is enough is enough, right? Well, you've heard me say that. I want us to go to Tom Holman saying it as well. I started a board until 1984 and I became an ice agent. I'm the first ice director actually came up to the ranks. I've been doing this a long time. I want you all remember the men and women around us in uniform, their patriots, they put their lives on this country, lives in jeopardy every day when they wear that gun and put that kind of a lot of vest on. Throughout my career are buried board relationships or buried license. I'm begging the politicians, the governors, the mayors who constantly attack these men and women. Please stop.

I don't want to bury anybody else. It's not a joke. Rather enforcing the laws. Not only I care about the safety of the men and women in uniform. I care about the safety of those who are looking for and apprehending. I go to bed every night and pray that no one dies during these operations. in his operation. No one dies on the border. I've seen too much death. And for those who don't like me wear my shoes for 40 years, see the traitors I've seen that's burned

in me forever. And you understand why it's so important we secure the border and save lives. I want you remember, 3 o'clock this morning, I bet every one of you'll be sleeping comfortable in your bed. These men and women will be standing on a dirt trail someplace because a sensor went off. Is it just someone who's coming for a better life? was the heavily armed drug smuggler. They don't know, but they're going to take it on. Every night across this nation. God bless the men and women of ICE, CBP,

and all federal law enforcement that's involved in creating the most secure border and historic deportation operation. God bless all of them. God bless this country. We're doing the right thing. There's a reason me and Rodney came out of retirement to do this. because we believe we're saving lives every day.

The men and win of vice and border patrol are patriots. Heart stop. Love each and every one of them. Thank you for coming today. I appreciate you. It's a good message. I think the world is Tom. He's a salt to the earth, as they say,

and I've known him for a lot of years. And he's really, he's so dedicated to what he's doing. Peace of my mind, saying prayers for their safety and their protection. I'm with you every bit of the way. Thank you for your service, writes, OE812. Listen, you know, you don't know anything until you experience Defender of the Faith Rights. It's so true.

And, you know, these young men and women, they're out there just trying to do their jobs. Tom Holman just trying to do his job. And the idea that Democrats would go after them like they have, I mean, to the point where now you get these pro-Palestinian extremists that we're apparently looking to target ice. I mean, it is not okay. It is not okay. It is not okay. And I just got to commend Tom for all that he has done.

Christy as well. Christy Gnome. I mean, last week, that was interesting. We got to see Christy Gnome. She was taking no prisoners. There was some congressman that tried to really tackle. her on something. I mean, you had La Monica, who was out for blood, of course. And then you had somebody else whose name I had never heard of before. And he was going in for the jugular.

And I'll tell you, that was just a mic drop moment, if you would, if you asked me, with Christy, just taking them right out. And as she should, right? There was no moment for... I am sick of your lies. The American people are sick of this lies. American people demand truth. America is very happy that finally they have a president in the White House that gets up every day to keep them safe. Madam Secretary, your incompetence and your inability to truthfully carry out your duties of Secretary of Homeland Security. If you're not fired, will you resign? Sir, I will consider you're asking me to resign as an endorsement of my work. Thank you very much.

I love that. I consider you asking me to resign as an endorsement. endorsement of my work. So, listen, I know everybody wants to take shots at her right now. I know everybody wants to take shots at home and right now. I will say this. You know what? It's hard to argue with success. And there's a lot of success right now on the border. We've had no one, no one even wants to come. They don't even want to take the chance, right? We just learned on Friday that the Department of Homeland Security is stepping it up in coordination with the TSA. So now, If you want to fly somewhere in the country and you're here illegally, you're not going to be able to

because they're going to have you on a list. So this is serious. And they've never seen so many deportations from the interior of the country. We've had about 600,000 so far in 2025. The president had wanted a million, but 600,000 is pretty darn good. You get nobody trying to come in. And as I said, they are coming from the interior of the country, which is actually very different than coming from the border, when Barack Obama was successful in deporting a lot of people. He had the most deportations. Think about that. The most, because that was actually back when, you know, Democrats were sane and understood

that you just can't have people, millions of people come in here without papers and untracked, untraced, and then living high off the hog, right, with the system. I mean, don't even get me started. But you know, you know exactly what I'm talking about. I mean, think about, think about guys. We had, oh, oh, I don't know, the Roosevelt Hotel, Roosevelt Hotel in Midtown Manhattan once a five-star hotel and that hotel was bring one, bring all, you know, you get daily maid service, you get the cards for the food, 300-some-oddollars a week

for goodness sake. New York can't afford it. But they did it anyway. They did it anyway because Democrats wanted to bring all of these people in here. And apparently you could go and get a trucker's license. How about that? They just changed that on Friday too. Yeah.

They're not going to allow you if you're here illegal to go and get a trucker's license and be transporting goods all over the country. I mean, it makes sense. It makes sense. But, you know, it's wild. I want to go to Cat Crazy Sam, who's making a good point on the Brown story. Again, as all of this comes in, we're very, very fluid here on the Trish Rican show. We had a lot breaking. But Cat Crazy Sam making the point that the Brown shooter may have more targets.

Like, this is a very dangerous situation. You know, I totally agree with you. I mean, I totally, totally agree with you. We don't, I mean, we've got nothing. We've got nothing. How can we have nothing? You know, and maybe it is PAMS. I mean, maybe the FBI comes under DOJ.

So maybe, maybe the blame lies with her. Maybe she's just not managing them well. I know she didn't manage the Comey situation very well. I know she did not manage the Leticia James situation very well. I know she didn't manage any of it very well. about this. Comey had until September 30th of 2025 before the statute of limitations ran out on his alleged lying to Congress. She knew that. She came into office what? In February, 2025. So if I'm her, and I'm not her, thank God. I would never want that job, nor would I wish it on anyone I truly loved,

okay? But the good news is I'm not her. But if I were her, you know what I would, I'd have like a big whiteboard in my office and I'd have deadline after deadline and then I'd have a whole bunch of alerts on my phone. Alert, alert, alert, alert. Because that's a deadline you don't want to miss. And so they had that other guy in there just to walk it through it. I mean that Eric, right, who was in charge of the Virginia Eastern District that would have brought charges. So Eric had the U.S. attorney job. He was the guy who was the guy who was who was recommended by some top Dems. I mean, if Tim Kane, remember Tim Kane?

He's the other Timmy. He's the one that ran for vice president with Hillary Clinton on the ticket. If Tim Kane is your biggest supporter, like maybe that's not the guy that's going to take out Comey, just saying. Now, why didn't Pam put two and two together? That's my question. So you say, okay, this guy, Eric, is in the seat. And for whatever reason, he's dragging his feet.

It turns out, oh, guess who else is working in the Virginia office alongside Eric? The son-in-law of James Comey. Like, he didn't leave until, when was it May? When they finally got rid of Eric, I mean, how did that, again, why didn't Pam do a deep dive? Like, if you go in, and I know this, okay, there's supposed to be church and states and the DOJ is not supposed to be doing the president's bidding, but let's just call it what it is. We know, we're big boys here, right? What do you think Merrick Garland was doing? We know what's going on. Okay, so let's just set that aside and ignore that for a minute. We know that the president

wanted to make sure that James Comey was held responsible for lying to Congress. We also know that the president wanted to make sure that Letitia James, if in fact she was guilty of alleged mortgage fraud, that she was held responsible. So there was no statute of limitations issue with Letitia. You had time to bring the indictment again. Like there was no deadline. I don't know why they rushed an indictment if it wasn't really, you know, an indictment they thought they could get. They should have waited a minute to make sure that they had their ducks in the row. But with James Coleman, you need to move fast on that one. And instead they let Eric hang out there, along with James Comey's son-in-law, who's like reporting back, you talk about having a mole in your organization, for goodness sakes,

and nothing happens, and nothing happens, and nothing happens, and nothing happens, and then finally, in what? September, the president's like, come on, enough already. Forgive me, I said May earlier. I meant September. And he basically forced paying. into getting rid of Eric. So Eric leaves, and they have nobody now to take over the gig. Because legally, and I know that, you know, people want to debate this and dispute this, and Cash has said, hey, you know, we're going to take this all the way up. I'm just going to tell you, legally, the way it worked was you got one shot, one bite at the

apple, you put the wrong guy in, okay? That wasn't Pam who did that. She actually didn't have the gig at that point. That was, you know, I don't know, some sneaky people working behind the president's back saying this guy's great. He's, he's totally got your back. He's so maga. It turns out he's not. He's like Tim Cain's guy. So they put in Eric's Heber. He gets the gig. Well, if you're Pam, again, I would have had the whiteboard. I would have had the statute of limitations. I would have known that I only had a certain amount of time. And if this guy was not going to move forward on charges,

if he wasn't finding anything, I mean, if he wasn't finding anything in all fairness, fine. But I think we all can agree. There was some stuff there. Was there not? We can agree on that because we've played the tape. And it seems to me he was kind of caught in a lie before Congress. So you had something. That was a burdened hand, right? You had something. You could have gone with it and you chose not to because you left Eric in the slot too long. And by the time, it was time to change him out. It was too late. You gave Lindsay Halligan. She came in there like a few days later and then she had like seven days to file charges or else, the statute of limitations was going to hit. Well, if you were doing this the right way, you would have said to yourself, again, if I were Pam and I had

the whiteboard, I would have said, you know what? We kind of screwed up with this guy, Eric, because this isn't going anywhere. So why don't we get rid of him and why don't we allow the justices to appoint somebody else? You can't handpick them because like I said, you got one bite at the apple, but at least do it the right way, for goodness sakes, rather than doing it the way you did, when you wind up with nothing. And the statute of limitations comes and goes. Like I said, she didn't turn in her homework on time. So what's going to happen with the Epstein files?

I don't know. What's going to happen when Dan Bonino, I think he's had it. I think he's like, Keystone Cops, no thank you. You know what? I don't need this. Like I had a very nice podcast. And let me go back to my very nice podcast where I can ask the right questions. And things will be at least more true to me and myself.

I'm just reading your comments in real time. I just paused for a second because I am seeing this. Some of you are just joining this show for the very first time. Make sure you subscribe, share, like, all that good stuff. It's really, really important. I think you're with me. Pam's in overhead, unfortunately. Here's what I think you need.

You need somebody who is a dynamite lawyer who's also, incredibly good at running a team. That is critical. It's almost like you need chief executive officer type functionality. Like what do they call it nowadays? High executive functioning. Again, I can never do this job because I'm sure I, you know, running a big team is hard. I don't envy anyone this. But this is what you need. You need somebody who like basically has worked in litigation for a big, big firm has gone to all the right schools. Yeah, believe it or not, I think that probably helps you. You want somebody who's like been in the system to see it all and has extremely good executive functioning and can run it. Right? Like when you say executive functioning, like putting the deadlines

up on the freaking whiteboard, like not letting the statute of limitations pass for goodness sakes. And then taking your time. Like if you don't have the right material to go back and get another indictment for Letitia Dames, James, don't rush it. Like, make sure you're doing things the right way. And make sure your FBI figures out what the heck is going down at Brown University, okay? Because I'm not okay with not knowing right now. I mean, they got to move faster. They've got to move faster. I'm just checking the news flow to see if we get anything else new. New Yorker, of course, is blaming guns. I'm sorry, but, like it's one, it's too soon, okay, too soon. And two, you can't say that that's the answer, guys.

I mean, I wish it was. If it was that simple, you wouldn't see what happened in Sydney, Australia over the weekend, okay? So that's just the reality of it. You can say that. You can go there, you can politicize this. Here's what I'm telling you right now in the here and now. We need to know who did it. Those kids are not safe. The world is. is not safe. And we need to know if that young woman was targeted because of her political beliefs. As vice chair or vice president of the Young Republicans Club at Brown University, that's a concern. That's a concern, right? The Republicans Club is saying that she was targeted. They believe that to be the case. And we need to know if that is in fact true. And I don't trust the university at this point.

I just don't trust the university to get this one right. I am too worried that they have their own political agenda and they're trying to save their institution and save their own high. Don't forget they're already getting hit with enormous fines from the Trump administration because of some of their DEI nonsense that actually was, well, frankly, against the law. So a lot of universities have been getting hit. hit with that. They have an entire communication surveillance system that for whatever reason is not working. Why don't we have pictures? You know, I wish I had more good things to tell you today,

but I'm getting pretty frustrated. And I have no doubt that if this story in the New York Sun is true and Dan Bongino is leaving, you know what? It's because he's, is so sick of the BS and he doesn't want to put up with this anymore. And can you blame him? I mean, can you blame them? It's a lot of BS and nobody should have to deal with this. And I will say, one of you guys was just saying, look, if the other team gets in there, if the other side comes in, what is it going to mean then? And that's actually pretty alarming and pretty darn scary to think about because you know under previous administrations, you've had all this effort to silence. one side, us, right? You want to silence MAGA. In fact, it was so bad they wanted to debank MAGA.

They had regulators in there on the bank saying, oh, we want this one, we want that one. I mean, Eric Trump was on a couple weeks ago saying he lost 200 accounts. I have other friends that actually had their bank accounts shut down. They had to like go through their wife or they had to go through somebody else. I mean, this should never happen. Not in the United States of America. Right? Not here. And yet it did. But you know, Trump's on it. And he issued an executive order preventing this from happening again. Well, our friends, one of our great sponsors here on the Trish Riegan show, because we are so well aligned in terms of what we think,

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and ensure fair, fair access to banking for all Americans. Go to 4FreeMarkets.org. Again, one of our sponsors here on the show. So we appreciate all their support. Just a great team. I mean, you think about what's going on and that Tom Holman has to come out and say, please, please, do not. Do not say these things about members of ICE, young men and women just trying to do their job. They're risking their lives in a way that they shouldn't

have to now. Because you guys are all, you know, you're suffering from TDS, big time TDS. Anything Trump wants, they don't. It should not be that way. It should not be that way. And I think like, you know, America's kind of reaching a tipping point. We don't know what happened at Brown. And I, again, I'm a commentator at this point, so I think I can get away with saying more about what I think, more about what my opinions are, rather than just telling you exactly the news. We don't know, okay, we don't know. So let me preface everything I'm going to say by just reiterating that.

We don't know what happened. or who this person was. But I'll tell you, my instinct immediately, immediately was this might have something to do with being a deliberate attack on capitalism because it was the economics course that they were reviewing for. It might have something to do with the president promising to retaliate because of what happened over the weekend. This is more bad news we didn't even talk about, but the soldiers that were shot that were gunned down and killed overseas. Might have something to do with that.

I mean, it might have something to do with it. It was the start of Hanukkah. The woman who taught the course was Jewish and she was very pro-Israel. I mean, you start adding all these things together. So that was my instinct. And I talked to the friend actually, Rob, who runs 76 research with me, who initially thought, well, you know, is it possibly somebody who's foreign who's here and like kind of just cracked because it's during finals?

I'm like, I don't know. Like I think like the timing of it is very suspicious. It was an economics class on a campus that kind of hates capitalism. I'm sorry, but they do. Like all these crazy PLO people, they all hate capitalism. And so we don't know, but that was my suspicion. and I don't know. Will I be proven right?

Was she targeted? I don't know. I see what Kenny's saying about, yeah, it is believed to be an attack on that rabbi. That rabbi, when you think about what happened in Sydney, I mean, just the horrible, horrible situation on Bondi Beach. And that rabbi apparently had asked and urged Anthony Albanese to stand with the Jewish community as all these anti-Semitism. concerns began mounting overseas. And that is, it's kind of telling. I mean, what's going on? Are they just

trying to, they're conquering everywhere? I mean, you think about now France has to, here's a story to share with you guys. France actually has to cancel. It's yearly New Year's Eve ball drop on the Chanceselizier. Here we go. For security reasons? What the heck? So you can't, because they're worried about the migrants, the Muslim migrants in France, they're canceling their New Year's Eve celebrations. So Europe has basically surrendered. What do they get all these kids and these, you know, liberal universities to surrender?

If you don't, who knows? And then you think about what happened in Australia. So according to an interview that was on Fox over, the weekend, a friend of Rabbi Eli Schlanger had said that, you know, he was already out there warning about the risk of anti-Semitism in Australia and warning that it kept just going unaddressed, unaddressed. And he was concerned, rightly so, about this. Well, why was it so unaddressed? Are there political reasons you're going to bring in more migrants because you think they're going to vote for you? Let me go to Mr. Albanese.

speaking just two or three months ago, Anthony Albanyes, who is Australia's prime minister, and he basically is just saying, like, look, we need to bring in more and more migrants, and if we don't, we're somehow prejudiced. And it's like enough with it, okay, buddy, enough is enough. But you hear it for yourself. Tell me what you think.

Australians should be able to feel safe and at home in any community. The targeting of Australians based on their religious beliefs is not only an attack on them, but it's an attack on our core values. We must stamp out the hate, fear and prejudice that drives Islamophobia and division in our society. His consultations have been wide and he has made a range of recommendations. We'll carefully consider these and continue to work closely with Aftab. Today marks a critical and long-awaited moment for the Muslim communities of Australia. This is a historic opportunity.

It is a moment where we decide who we are as a country and whether we are prepared to take the necessary steps to ensure that every person in Australia, regardless of faith, ethnicity or background, is safe, valid and treated with dignity. The reality is that Islamophobia in Australia has been persisted, at times ignored and other times... Well, you know, you're going to get more of it now, given what just went down.

You know, it's December. Kind of want to be happy. I just want to pick on the view. Hopefully tomorrow we'll just be picking on the view, talking about who's getting fired at CNN. There will be people fired at CNN. I like days like that a lot better. It's a heavy one today,

and I'm sorry for that. It's a sad time that we're in right now. I hope that we get more information on what went down in Providence, Rhode Island, and those poor kids say a prayer for them, all those that are still in critical condition, that are in the hospital, that were injured, all those that were there, all those that are on campus just having to live with this. I mean, think about, like the stress that you're living with, it just breaks my heart. And we've got to get tougher.

We don't know yet who was responsible for this. I worry because I don't trust that university in their system and their cameras that somehow miraculously don't seem to be able to give us any footage. Come on. I want to make sure that we get the truth and nothing but the truth, okay, whatever it is. And you know I have a point of view and I have a certain bias and obviously you're very familiar with that bias and I share it quite openly. So when I tell you I have my suspicions, it's coming from that lack of trust in that particular school and lack of trust in what's going on overall right now. But I hope we get some answers very, very soon, and it's critical. And I know the president, he's not going to

sit by and not get what he needs. He already spoke out about Brown University, and I guarantee you he's putting a lot of pressure on the FBI to get some answers. It is critical. I hope Dan stays just because they need them, but I wouldn't be surprised if he goes. And you know what? I miss his show. So, hopefully we'll get to hear a little bit more from him. I love having you here. You gave me so many lovely birthday wishes over the weekend. I wish it had been a happier weekend under the circumstances, but I did have a wonderful birthday and a wonderful time with my family. I got three kiddos and a wonderful husband, and it was a very good weekend. And I love them all so much. And, you know, even in the face of all these tough times, we can have those moments to celebrate. And indeed

I did. So we won't tell you how old I'm getting. But just suffice it to say there were three candles on my cake. One for each kid, right? Okay. Thank you for being here. Guys, I love you all. Make sure you subscribe and I'll see you live tomorrow on the Trish Regan show.