The Tucker Carlson Show - Alex Jones: Trump, Israel, Secret WW3 Plans, Dire Wolf Resurrection, Infowars Reporter Assassination

Episode Date: April 9, 2025

The US government has spent the last 12 years trying to censor and destroy Alex Jones. They’re still trying, and it’s not because he’s crazy and dishonest. It’s because he’s telling the trut...h. Watch this. (00:00) How Alex Jones Predicted 9/11 (09:22) The CIA's Influence Over The X Files (13:33) The Globalists Are Hiding in Plain Sight (17:55) Why the Left Wants Trump Killed (21:50) The Burden and Responsibility Alex Jones Bears (43:04) The Assassination of Infowars Journalist Jamie White (53:03) Have We Lost the War With Russia? (56:47) There Was a 50% Chance of Nuclear War and the Pentagon Didn’t Care Paid partnerships with: Eight Sleep: Get $350 off the Pod 4 Ultra at https://EightSleep.com/Tucker Policygenius: Head to at https://Policygenius.com/Tucker to see how much you could save Jase Medical: Go to https://Jase.com and use code TUCKER at checkout for a discount Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Frills delivers. Get groceries delivered to your door from No Frills with PC Express. Shop online and get $15 in PC Optimum points on your first five orders. Shop now at nofrills.ca. Okay, so I want to impose my theory on you and you tell me what you think. So for the past 15 years, I've been watching the feds, the FBI, the DOJ try to destroy you. And I've watched as no group of gatekeepers or whistleblower protectors or journalistic, you know, ethics guardians have defended you on First Amendment grounds, which is pretty shocking. But the question has always been, why are the feds so intent on taking you out? And here's my theory. So the summer of 2001, you go on TV, time stamped,
Starting point is 00:00:53 and say, someone's going to fly planes to the World Trade Centers. They're going to blame Osama bin Laden, call the Bush White House, warn them. You basically called 9-11 in detail. You're the only one who did. And we can prove that. It's not a guess. We have the tape. I've played the tape. 9-11 happened since September. There's a 9-11 commission immediately impaneled. They go and interview a bunch of people in the U.S. government and outside and ask, like, were there signs that this was happening? They don't interview you. You're the one guy who predicted it in public, or the only guy who predicted it in public, and no one who predicted in public and no one calls you to ask how the hell did you know that which is the obvious question then they set about trying to destroy you rather than like hailing you as a prophet or at least asking the question how the hell did alex
Starting point is 00:01:35 jones know in detail this was coming how did you know they never even asked you and then they they mobilized doj and fbi against you. And I think there's a connection between those two facts. Well, there certainly is. I'd already been researching false flag attacks, not just by our government, but other governments throughout history. The Gulf of Tonkin to get us into Vietnam in 64 that was later declassified to have been staged. And, of course, the USS Liberty between Israel and the Lyndon Baines Johnson administration wanted to get us into full war with Egypt, but the ship survived, became the most decorated ship in U.S. history because of the valiance of the crew. And Operation Ajax, where the CIA and Kermit Roosevelt in 53 overthrew Mohammad Mosaddegh,
Starting point is 00:02:38 who was a reformist and really pro-West, but he wouldn't give them all the oil. And they used radical Islamists to overthrow him and then put the shah in and then overthrow the shah over and over again there's just hundreds and hundreds of historical real case examples of that being done by our government and other governments and i saw a lot of pre-programming in the news oh someone been a lot is going to get us when he gets us we need to give up all of our rights and we'll be a new America and we've got to set up this police state. So I saw a lot of pre-programming and- But you called the specifics. You called the specifics of 9-11. I just can't get past that. And I've asked you in public and private, how did you do that? I've never gotten really a straight answer. I doubt I will now. But the fact remains, the incontrovertible fact,
Starting point is 00:03:22 the provable fact that you called it, and then they began a campaign against you. And it's not because you're a racist. You've never been a racist or an anti-Semite or a crazy person, actually. You've never spewed hate, but you have for, you know, 30 years said the foundations of our system are actually kind of fake and rotten. And it's, but it was 9-11. That's when they really decided this guy has to be stopped and just basically eliminated the First Amendment to stop you. Well, just to be clear, it's not that I'm dodging how I knew it. That was 24 years ago, and I remember what I was covering
Starting point is 00:03:59 and what I was doing at the time. And everybody's seen the July 25th where i went into detail but but actually my crew using chat gpt scanning through all my old shows found shows in april and even before that in march where i get more specific and i said the cia is going to fly planes into the world trade centers uh and blame it on bin laden so i just think that's the most amazing fact i've ever heard in my entire life that that you called that. And again, we can prove it because it's on tape with timestamps. And everyone's like, oh, yeah, okay, Alex Jones is crazy, a hater.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Okay, whatever. I don't think that's true. But you called 9-11. And no investigator ever called you to ask you how you called that? No. How you knew that? Not one. No.
Starting point is 00:04:42 No one from DOJ. Philip Zelikow of the 9-11 Commission never called you. No. How do you know that? Not one? No. No one from DOJ? Philip Zelikow of the 9-11 Commission never called you? No. Why? And, well, I mean, obviously because certain segments of our intelligence agencies
Starting point is 00:04:52 with other foreign intelligence agencies were tracking the supposed hijackers. They were being trained at U.S. military bases. They were being given government money from our government and other governments. They were being protected.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Then two of their magic passports and all that rubble and hundreds of millions pieces of paper were found the next day to then connect them to it it was all laid out then the bin laden family was thrown up was flown out of the country in the days after and that was basically shut down in the news you know it was covered some locally uh here in florida so i knew that bin Laden had been CIA going back to really the Mujahideen being set up by Zbigniew Brzezinski and Jimmy Carter, and then Reagan took that over. And then they kind of billed that as blowback. But even recently, you've seen the USAID information and other documents come out in the Institute for Peace, where they're directly paying massive amounts of money to taliban to al-qaeda to isis even in the last few years oh yeah and they use them as these proxy armies so that was
Starting point is 00:05:50 well known in the research circles uh that that that that bin laden was basically a multinational cutout used by western intelligence agencies to destabilize areas but also be a boogeyman that you see cnn in a mountain cave magically being able to find him, but the U.S. can't kill him and nobody else can. And I knew that CNN is literally the CIA broadcasting system. For sure. Total mockingbird thoroughbred. And there were hundreds and hundreds of points that went in. But OK, bin Laden's work for the CIA and you've got CNN interviewing him and they're all scaring us, saying he's about to attack us. And then I remembered how Ahmad Salam, who was an Egyptian intelligence agency operative working for the FBI and CIA, was hired to build a bomb in the early 90s to blow up the World Trade Center. But then when they said build a real bomb, he started recording them because he started figuring out what was the setup.
Starting point is 00:06:42 And then he had that press conference where he played it. I interviewed him a few times where the FBI said, no, just go ahead and let it go forward. And so you start adding all that together. They'd already tried to hit the World Trade Center before. The World Trade Center had a lot of issues in it with asbestos and also some of the structural issues. So they were already wanting to have a plan to get rid of it. And then you have the CIA and FBI in the Solomon Brothers building, building seven, the 47 story skyscraper, you have that right next door. So I looked at all of it and I thought, where would the new Pearl Harbor be? And the year before in the Project for American Century headed up by Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney, Dick Cheney wrote in
Starting point is 00:07:25 there that we need a new Pearl Harbor event to launch the Pax Americana, but it wasn't an American empire of freedom and liberty and justice like Trump's trying to, you know, launch. It was a globalist empire of military enforcement and tyranny. And so there was a lot of other data points that went into it. Cheney also writes in that same document, we need to look at, you know, race-specific bioweapons to have control and bring in our power. And that was actually picked up in the newspapers. Okay, so these are not minor issues.
Starting point is 00:07:52 These are like the biggest things happening in the world, the most important things happening in the world. And the end of one system ushering in of a new system, millions in the end died because of all of this, millions. And you're on like cable access in texas figuring this out like where is everybody else i don't understand like i don't wear what i worked at cnn at the time i don't and we had as you said peter bergen went and interviewed but i'm not attacking peter bergen but like how come you were the only one who
Starting point is 00:08:24 figured this out? Yeah, by that time, I started out in 94 as a guest on AXS TV and had my own show by 95. But I was on local talk radio. I just started getting, I've been syndicated a few years then.
Starting point is 00:08:33 But I, but I mean, you're right. I was on AXS TV as well. And that's where the famous, But you were like way out on the fringe. And all the people
Starting point is 00:08:42 at the very center of our business, journalism, like they didn't see or didn't talk publicly about any of this. None of this. Well, I saw Gary Hart on with another guest. Gary Hart, the former presidential candidate, senator from Colorado. I think it was the Hart-Rubin Commission. Yeah. rubbin commission yeah uh i uh saw him in congress uh with testimony earlier that year and also saw him on i believe it was cnn or maybe it was chris matthews msnbci but but the clip's famous and they
Starting point is 00:09:16 say the world's about to change there's about to be big things happening you know big big attacks when when was this it was a it was in early july it was before 9-11 uh yes and that's and they were very specific so i should find that clip can crowdsource that and that was the final catalyst because they were basically telling the establishment very thinly veiled what was about to go on so i sat back i looked at it and i thought years later how did i come up with that so i don't just say a bunch of stuff that most of it doesn't come true. I'm very specific on predictions and almost all of them have come true.
Starting point is 00:09:48 I thought that it was the spinoff of the X-Files and I wasn't even an X-Files fan, rarely watched it, called The Lone Gunman that it turns out had come out in the spring of 2001 that I didn't even learn about because there wasn't Facebook and Twitter and X back then. So if you didn't even learn about because there wasn't you know facebook and twitter and x back then so if you didn't watch those entertainment shows you didn't know about it and then six months or so after 9-11 listeners start saying have you seen this and i had listeners
Starting point is 00:10:16 send me vhs and recordings off fox tv of this episode where a criminal group in the u.s government hijacks a jumbo jet in New York to fly it in the World Trade Center to blame it on a Central Asian terrorist so that they have a pretext to take over domestically with a police state and launch wars in the Middle East. Wait, this was on the X-Files? Yes, this was on the X-Files. And so later I thought maybe I got it from that. But then we found tapes even earlier a month before that came out where I was already had put it together on the radio. But here's what's crazy. Then I got reached out by some of the host of the X-Files saying, hey, Chris Carter told us that the CIA came to him with the plot of this and asked him some of the scripts that they would ask him as a favor to put this in as a tv program
Starting point is 00:11:05 and then later i corresponded some of chris carter via email he talked about this in the news like in entertainment publications about oh alex jones really good guy and when they rebooted in 2016 again he talked about the talk show host characters based on me so i've talked to him some of his crew but he said no i don't know why the cia you used to interview him you came to me and and said here's the script for this show so so was it just alex jones saying that a government agency was going to hijack a jet and fly the world trade center the x files uh spinoff the lone gunman one of its main episodes was about that specific story this is just crazy so i often get you know people i know oh Oh, and they remote control and hijack the jet, the good guys, and keep it from crashing the World Trade Center.
Starting point is 00:11:50 So why would the CIA come to Chris Carter and say, we want you to write this? And then it's released months and months before 9-11. So I'm not the only one. It was in the collective unconsciousness. I mean, I don't't know um but i mean i said two weeks before they shot trump in butler i i went on air and i said they're going to try to shoot him at a rally i mean that was that's obvious to see how desperate they were how the lawfare didn't work i mean a lot of this is just studying how they operate but being so much of it now is john podesta in uh august 2020 the new york times wrote it, had a big war game with the top Democrats. And they said, if Trump wins, if they weren't able to steal it, in my view, then we're
Starting point is 00:12:31 going to have civil war conditions. We're going to have blue states to see, blue cities, and we're going to use social issues to foment a rebellion that we're going to basically frame as racial, George Floyd on steroids, 10.0, and then we're going to drive Trump from office. Well, they were able to steal it, in my view, the evidence I think is overwhelming. So they didn't use that plan. Well, they started talking about that plan again in the months before this last election last year. So much of what I'm able to predict isn't really prediction. They admit it. I mean, the UN said for 20 years, we're going to use disease X to bring in a global system, a global central bank digital currency, a global social credit score, a global vaccine ID that will be used as the global internet ID, global taxation ID. That's official Bill Gates, the UN, all these big bodies preparing how they'd roll this out. You have the Rockefeller
Starting point is 00:13:19 Foundation with Operation Lockstep 2010, 2011, describing locking down the sports stadiums, locking your houses six feet apart, wearing masks for fear. I mean, that's – and then Bush, George W. had that in the BioShield program that passed in 2005 where they sent out kits, millions of them, to everybody, to the Red Cross with the six feet apart, with the mask, with all the stuff. But they didn't launch the bio-attack scare that they had, I think, locked and loaded.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Then they waited until 2020. So basically, you're just taking them at their word. You're just paying. You're doing what I don't do enough, which is listen to people I disagree with and sincerely try to assess what they're saying. Now, Fauci just said last week, a much worse, way higher morbidity. It's respiratory. it's coming and you got hotels oh don't worry trump's gonna have a big problem it's gonna come crashing in on him we'll see how he tries to reboot the economy and then you know then you learn fauci and all of them
Starting point is 00:14:15 are involved with with obama and chapel hill and north carolina creating covet 19 it was a scandal 2015 gain of function sars and then they move it to Wuhan that plausible deniability so they can kind of blame the Chinese that they want I'm not saying the Chinese are good the Chinese are terrible uh it was kind of a joint project and and and then then they roll it out then they've got their so-called shot that's mRNA I mean this stuff is all very well planned and so when you see him up there lying going no Senator Paul it is you that is wrong no gain of function then it's in all his emails this is gain of function and he has public
Starting point is 00:14:49 symposiums in defense of gain of function i mean he's mr gain of function if he was a superhero he would just you know have gain of function on his chest and the back of his cape and he's like i don't know anything about that and so i mean these guys just treat us like children. And so they kept saying, we're going to use a virus, we're going to use a scare to bring in our global government. I mean, I remember Lou Dobbs in Judicial Watch 2006 sued to get North American Union documents. And in it, they're meeting up at Banff, Canada, and they're like, we're going to use collapsing migration flow from a virus to flood the West and use that crisis to bring a new marshall plan we're going to use a disease x to you know finally get the world to accept this global government
Starting point is 00:15:30 so they're just scheming constantly they have event 201 but in public in public they have a sparse war game 2025 2028 that came out a few years before 2020 in the viral release that is actually set in 2020 to 2024 and it rolls out how they're all going to do it the tweets that are in there almost word for they just changed the name spars to covet 19 so it's a blueprint and then they get caught oh it's not a viral attack plan oh it's just a war game but the war game matches the exact rollout of the attack, so they're all on script. So in a normal world that rewarded excellence and prescience, you'd be a billionaire because of your predictive powers. I mean, huge companies, governments hire people who can piece together fragments of evidence to create an accurate picture of the future.
Starting point is 00:16:20 That's a huge business. I know a lot of people in that business. George Friedman, guys like that are really, really smart people. But you've got the best track record of all. And I think it's so telling that rather than reward you for this or call you up and be like, Alex Jones, what do you think is coming next? They're like, no, we must eliminate our own First Amendment to destroy your life, which is what they've done. That seems like a pretty clear indicator of their guilt to me. Well, what they don't want is compartmentalized good people in industry and government,
Starting point is 00:16:56 not just here, but around the world, to listen to what I'm saying, go check it out for themselves, find out everything I just said is on record. Anybody can just type in anything I said, and it's from their own documents. And then people will basically put the glasses on like they live and see it for themselves. I'm not telling them what to see like the corporate media does brainwashing people and selling them a lie that two men can have a baby and there's no X and Y chromosomes and communism is great and open borders are wonderful. No, I mean, I'm simply saying see this for yourself. I liken it to those hidden image paintings. And when you first can't see the hidden image, you're like, I can't see it. Once you do see it, first can't see the hidden image you're like i can't once you do
Starting point is 00:17:25 see it you can't unsee it so i'm only trying to get people to go look at what i'm pointing out and find out i liken this whole thing to like you have the adult table with the cfr the club of rome the wf and the un the think tanks the rain corporation and they're at the adult table at thanksgiving and the general public and even a lot of the politicians are compartmentalized and naive. We're over at the kids table and we'd actually listen to what the adult table because that's their arrogance. They admit 99% of this in their own battle plans as if we are too lazy or stupid to ever go look at it. And that's part of a confidence game they have with their own people, their own corporate intelligence operatives, their own government intelligence operatives, their own networks, where they just basically admit all this stuff out in the open. I mean, it's like, you know, mud from the CIA on CNN saying, Foggy Bottom's going to kill this guy.
Starting point is 00:18:17 We're going to kill Trump. And then Trump had called me. This was back in his first administration. I said, listen, you need to watch out. They've got Phil Mudd and all these other guys on CNN, MSNBC, saying they're going to kill you. And he goes, just a moment. He goes, I'm going to have the Secret Service call you.
Starting point is 00:18:33 In about an hour, they call. And they go, what's going on, Alex? Trump told us to call you. And I said, you don't know about this, this, this, this, this, this. So he goes, here's our email. And I sent the Secret Service this. As if the Secret Service doesn't know they were all over TV saying we're going to kill trump so so it's possible they caught that yeah yeah and then trump didn't catch it so so and i mean now they're everywhere you've got this
Starting point is 00:18:56 new rudker study out where 55 of democrats liberals are asked you know do you support trump being killed they're like yes we want him dead. He should be assassinated. This is this week. And came out, whatever, the weekend. And they asked him, so do you see yourself as part of a assassination culture? And they said, yes. So, but then if you say,
Starting point is 00:19:17 oh, the Democrats are fomenting violence. I mean, the view says all the time, he's killing people. Elon's killing people. They don't say how. They're stealing your social security. They're killing old ladies ladies and so we need to be ready to fight and die to take this guy out those are quotes and and and then they just sit back oh no no no we're not calling for violence with crockett and all of them but but they're not going to do it they want lone
Starting point is 00:19:40 nuts to do it because their other wind-up operatives like crooks and the other guy here in florida failed but i mean they are they are crazy and of the establishment or what's left of it's falling apart thinks killing trump is going to help them they're delusional because if you look at all the scenarios that come out of that it's much worse for them no i agree i absolutely agree that not all sleep aids are made by pharmaceutical companies you probably heard about eight sleep by now. They developed the country's most innovative products for sleep. Almost everybody in our office uses something they make called the pod,
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Starting point is 00:22:07 Before I ask you what you think the signs are pointing to now, like what are your predictions for the next five years? And then I ask you how your battles with the U.S. government are going in its attempts to silence you how do you like if you have this ability which you do i'm not sucking up it's just again it's provable to put together a picture an extraordinarily accurate picture of what the future holds like what does that do to you how do you sleep and how do you live and like why haven't you totally destroyed yourself like that's not those are kind of not thoughts that most people including me are burdened with and don't really want to be burdened with. But like, how do you turn off the visions of the future in your head? Well, I mean, I appreciate you saying nice things about me and obviously God gives us all different gifts and I do have some gifts, but I think a lot
Starting point is 00:22:56 more people have these gifts than really realize it. But you can prove it. That's why I've obviously we're friends and I like you as a man, but you can prove it in a way that others can't because it's on tape. So it's not really debate. Has Alex Jones had, you know, more accurate predictions of the future than any living person in the world that I know of? We can prove that. We don't have to argue about it. I've got the freaking tape. So, again, it's not even a compliment. It's just an observation. And I don't know why I seem to be the only person who's obsessed with this. Like, how did this guy predict this? Everyone's like, oh, he's crazy. Okay, maybe he's crazy, but he predicted this. So my question is, like, what does that do to you? I mean, it is stressful, the responsibility of constantly researching and looking at all culture pop culture that's where
Starting point is 00:23:47 a lot of the real brainwashing is that that's where a lot of the predictive programming and manipulation goes on yes but also in so-called news but i i mean i did get to where i drank way too much ate too much got really unhealthy because i could you know go home at night and have some drinks and you know and eat half a key lime pie and just kind of dial out and forget about reality. But things have gotten so intense and so dangerous that for about the last nine months, I haven't drank and I've been exercising every day and I've lost 63 pounds and I feel great. And I've just embraced the responsibility. Plus, we're alive right now, really in the great awakening where more and more people
Starting point is 00:24:24 are piecing things together and deciding to really get informed and engaged. And so I've always said I want to become obsolete, where people really start understanding how the world really works to such an extent that there are so many other journalists and researchers and pundits and just private citizens and people in business and academia and life and in the ecclesiastical circles, that they really realize that this globalist system is transhumanist. It is evil. It is a spiritual battle at the end of the day. And people need to really choose a side. And so I think choosing the side and saying, hey, God, I can't do this. I'm weak. I'm imperfect. But through you, I can. And really praying and asking God to lead God and direct you and give you discernment. So to really answer your question, I'll have all this data and this research so that my feeble human mind can understand really what God tells me. And then it's that final little ingredient of being sure about
Starting point is 00:25:21 something that that's what they're intending to do but we have real agency good has more power than evil they always say the devil's greatest trick was convincing the world that he didn't exist i think that's the second biggest trick is that he doesn't exist and he does his biggest trick is convincing people that there is no good out there and that and that and that there's not that's right and And that God doesn't exist. So, you know, for me, so much of it, again, is in the old days, the globalists, the Western propaganda after the end of World War II and since then, when we won World War II, they pretty much always got what they wanted. So it was easy to follow those trend lines out and see what the probable main scenarios were. And then things would almost always come true that I predicted because they were still in charge.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Now that the globalists are really collapsing and a new international order and system is forming, coming from the grassroots up, politics is downstream from the grassroots. And because Trump is such a chaos bringer to their system, which is good, but with it also comes danger. But it's better than living on our knees and ending up having our souls basically taken. It's better to fight down our feet. But in my experience, people that fight on their feet live a a lot longer have better lives than people that try to live on
Starting point is 00:26:48 their knees people live on their knees actually die on their knees a lot more often than people die on their feet in my experience so now is really the global revolution it's a spiritual revolution the information the culture all of that comes out of that and so now there's so many possible futures and and so many developments because there's been so many good people that actually care and want to stabilize civilization and thrive and have a future and who are not based on conquest mindsets, but are based on Renaissance concepts, the Great Reset versus the Great Awakening, that right now anything is possible because America still has the world because america still has the world
Starting point is 00:27:26 reserve currency still has the biggest best military still has the best energy system for raw energy and still has a spirit that is being rekindled that was the apple of the world's eye and really the flower of the renaissance that that we're now rebooting it's powering back up right now and that window is closing but, but we're acting on it right now. And if we're just not weak and cowards, like Trump has said, and if we don't become panicans but remain Americans, then really anything is possible because, as Elon has said, if America falls, the central pillar in Western civilization and Western civilization falls, it all falls. And so for me, I don't do this out of courage. I do it out of direct self-preservation for myself, my family, and by extension,
Starting point is 00:28:14 everybody else, because we're all interconnected. And people need to understand the true urgency that the globalists said they were going to collapse the world economy and use that for social control, as Larry Fink said, to control our behavior. And we're going to build something extremely hellscapish and dystopic in their own admissions. All the horrible stuff we see is just the leading edge of it. And so to me, there's really even no choice but to fight with everything I've got. You said this is a – you said two things that really struck me. One, that anything is possible right now. This could go in an infinite number of directions, some hellish and some blessed.
Starting point is 00:28:53 And so I think that that feels right to me. Second, you said this is a spiritual revolution. What are the signs that you see of that? What do you mean by that? Well, if you read the Bible, Old Testament, New Testament, it's all there. And then i see it happening uh you know it says that during these big times of change uh that that you'll see the best out of the good people and the worst out of the bad people and some people you thought were
Starting point is 00:29:15 good are going to really activate and show you their real cards that they're really your servants of evil are really slaves of evil and then you're going to see some people you thought weren't good that are going to be touched and make the decision to be strong for liberty that'll be some of our greatest champions. And that you're not going to really see people in the middle anymore, that big middle of people passing the buck. God said, you were hot and are cold. You were lukewarm. I spit shot in my mouth. And so we're going into really the beginning. It's going to get way more intense in my view. I view, of any prediction. It's that.
Starting point is 00:29:45 People think things are wild now and tumultuous. This is going to be seen as the calm before the storm. And so there's going to be nowhere to be in the middle. People are going to have to choose a side.
Starting point is 00:29:56 And those that have chosen evil, chosen the establishment, chosen the satanic world order, are going to get deeper and deeper into their devotion, their hysteria, their violence, trying to prop it up because deep down they're scared and they have a form of Stockholm syndrome where they go to the abuser and think if they prostrate themselves before it, somehow they'll be given deliverance when really they just need to repent and ask God to come in
Starting point is 00:30:22 to their heart and cleanse them and then rise them up to be a soldier against this evil in this key time. But there'll be no room for anybody in the middle in the time we're in. And I'm talking to so many people that weren't even Christian or weren't even religious or weren't even spiritual who are saying it's good versus evil. And I talked to so many people, I know they're professionals and they, you know, Austin's full of a lot of, you know and women just becoming demon-possessed. I mean, literally saying they're demon-possessed. And I'm hearing about all over the country, all over the world. What is that?
Starting point is 00:30:58 It's so noticeable. And I'm so blessed to be surrounded mostly by women who are just the opposite were wonderful but i who are the rock i mean they're just the best however what you just described is just on display everywhere well and it's men too you're about the soccer coach that just kidnapped the little kid and took him and killed him and threw him in the woods reportedly allegedly i mean it's just i mean it's men too but normally in history it's men that do the really openly satanic stuff. Yes, exactly. And women, you know, 2% of violent crime. Now it's because it's a crisis. And women particularly, but men as well, buy into whatever they see as the power structure.
Starting point is 00:31:34 That's a survival mechanism generally. That's exactly right. But when the power structure is a death cult, by increment, they get deeper and deeper. I mean, you look at these leftists and them in the hundreds of photos where they took their shot or they had their abortion or they want to kill Trump. And you look at them. Or they're worshiping death in some way. Absolutely. And you can see it.
Starting point is 00:31:54 They all look super unhealthy. They look totally insane in the eyes. They all look like Charlie Manson. And so I've seen more and more love in people's eyes, more and more spiritual connection to God, more and more of that quiet place of just serenity in people. And then I'm seeing more and more of the satanic energy. So it's really a parting of the sea here. Yes. So to just linger on the first observation that you're seeing more of the serenity, the peace from God in people, that is including people in your orbit, people you know personally.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Yes. But it's very paradoxical i'm seeing just godliness peace understanding and then i'm seeing confusion and hysteria and i mean what we're seeing is evil writhing around, trying to take us with it. It gets sensitive that humanity is waking up and that all of its carefully laid plans to keep us in a trance, keep us asleep is burning away. Do you, is there any way to predict? Well, I'll just say my view, which is I've been really shocked by people on both sides. There are people who seem totally seized by hysteria and rage and hate and the desire to commit violence. I never expected they would be that. And then there are other people who I'm equally shocked to see filled with the kind of serenity you're describing who are filled with love and understanding. And I couldn't have predicted who those people are in some cases.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Do you feel that? Absolutely. I mean, I've always had a lot of berserker energy and, you know, in the fight, but it was always focused. And I wouldn't say it was demonic, but it was, you know, of the flesh, but also had a big connection to God. Now, more and more, I'm just have serenity, focus, clarity, and I'm more effective at breaking things down, not acting like a Tasmanian devil. And so in my own life, I'm seeing more and more of that serenity, just really, really intense the last few weeks. And I picked up on that being around you and your crew and you know folks here in in this little hamlet we're in and then it really does make you feel sorry for people that serve evil i mean they torture us
Starting point is 00:34:12 and they attack us and they want to bully us and but at the end of the day you actually realize that's on them it is so sad that they live like this they're being destroyed too they're being destroyed too that's're being destroyed too. That's like one of the main insights I've had in the past five years. I come to things really slowly because I'm not a genius. But I always kind of felt hate toward the destroyers in any society. I hate destruction. I like building and creation.
Starting point is 00:34:37 But the destroyers always were, I felt, my enemies. And my whole life I felt this. And then it was only in the last couple of years I realized they're being destroyed also like they are suffering they're not getting out of this unscathed like they think that they're getting power or whatever they money whatever they think they're getting um but in but they're like in agony a lot of them are cowards too they think survival of finish is being as ruthless and mean as possible is what they have to do to win. And then when you no longer hate them, and I was never driven by hate as my main force. It was just the old saying, you don't fight an enemy attacking your people because you hate them.
Starting point is 00:35:17 You fight them because you love the people you're defending. But still, I would always hear, no, no, forgive them. Still fight them. Still expose them. no, forgive them, still fight them, still expose them, but really forgive them. That removes a spiritual connection that you have with them. And you see it when Christ says, you know, be kind and pray for those that persecute you. It'll heap burning coals on their head. Stalkers, you know, down at the kind of the low level, I've learned like once I didn't care about a stalker and I've had plenty and you just forgive them, they just freak out and go away. When
Starting point is 00:35:47 they're getting to you, they're enjoying that energy. So you still fight them with more energy than ever, but you do it from a position of just removing a damaged, collapsed, you know, poor victim of the devil that you have a responsibility to protect yourself and your family from, but you don't give them the energy of being angry back at them and seeing them as powerful because they're not, they're pawns. And these people that are influenced by satanic energy, by literal spiritual forces, demons, they are the slaves. And when they're not out doing evil and persecuting people, they don't even feel like they're alive and they're desperate and they're scared and they're lost. And then they get driven forward by this dark force to, it'll be all right once you just go out and once you take these people out.
Starting point is 00:36:33 You know, it's the good people that are making you feel bad. It's them. Destroy them. Then you'll have peace. And that's the deeper understanding I've had of how this satanic system works. It's so clearly true. And if you ask if there's anyone that you've really like focused on, I don't know, George Soros or Larry Fink. I mean, just the other day I was talking to someone who knows Larry Fink really well. And I was saying, I think Larry Fink is like, I don't know. I've never met Larry Fink, but boy, he's responsible for a lot of suffering from my perspective.
Starting point is 00:37:03 And, you know, this person said there's no one more unhappy than Larry Fink. Like nobody. And I was just with him in a car. He was like screaming at someone on the phone. This guy's made billions of dollars and personally tormented. And I know a bunch of people because I know a lot of the people involved in things that I think are really evil. And there's not a happy one among them. Not one.
Starting point is 00:37:24 And beyond the fact that he's got billions he's in control of more than anybody you know we're always hearing elon musk we're just kind of world well he's a guy that has been good at keeping the companies under his control so he independently is the most powerful person corporate science communications tit. But then they spin it like, oh, he's the establishment. No, Trump, as you know, has a very small orbit of independent billionaires that are defending him because they want to stabilize civilization for everybody's good. But when you look at the international power and the largesse, it's been against Trump. More and more, they realize they're losing because the people are with Trump. And we were just talking last night i hope you would repeat that uh because you were asking me with some folks we were talking
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Starting point is 00:41:58 You will too. Yeah, and you hope that the, you know, questions like that are almost never resolved without big wars, unfortunately. You can't think of too many examples or really any in history where they, you know, have just sort of evolved gracefully. It's a lot in the East. And that's the main fact of the moment by people like Larry Fink and many, many others. And, but it's being replaced by this, by this, by this threat from the East. And I don't hate the Chinese at all. I think they're acting in what they think is their best interest. They're not Christian. They hate Christianity. So you've got a totally different worldview and I'm not mad at them about it, but I think we should be honest about what it is, right? It's not, we're not going to have like, you know, the United States and Russia and Iran and Malaysia, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, China is all sort of acting in their own spheres. That's not the way it works.
Starting point is 00:43:14 And as you said last night, all these countries want to be on Team America. I think that's right. And for people that don't know this, I'm surprised. I mean, Trump understands that you do, but this needs to be everywhere. The globalists went in the 80s, 90 they made a deal with communist china you get the manufacturing rare earth minerals but you don't expand your military into the south china sea well they started 20 years ago expanding everywhere and then it took obama until about 14 years ago to figure that out we had the asia pivot but but by then it was too late they'd infiltrated congress they were financing all this destroy america wokeism and bragging about it and then people like bill gates and others continue to be totally aligned with china no it's right and the cfr
Starting point is 00:43:55 saying america's over and larry fink making jokes about it just three or four years ago ha ha ha you know five years ago trump thinks he'll bring america back ha ha he hasn't seen china i mean very arrogant and now that china's even double crossing the globalists and saying we don't even need you and xi jiping is like we're going to pay people to have kids we're not doing your one child policy more they're breaking with the transhumanist you know angle but but using the control grid the cashless society social credit score that the west helped them set up to now project that around the world and so the globalists are being destroyed by their own Frankenstein monster. And then the EU has decided to ally with China. And again, the UK
Starting point is 00:44:34 is at least on the service, acting like, no, they want to be in a, you know, new, you know, Anglophile alliance with the quote, you know, US empire. And again, the U.S. has a limited window to get everybody on board with us and then our alliance easily with the key countries in the Middle East, Saudi Arabia, central among it, and some other alliances. And then obviously an open economic alliance with Russia who wants an economic alliance and has more resources than any country in the world, I mean, that is the real chessboard. And that's why the left and the globalists want to drive America and Russia apart, because geographically and also militarily and then also scientifically and then just raw material, that is the obvious. If you believe Russia is our greatest enemy, if you are working full time to divide the United States from Russia, you are acting against the interests of the United States. You hate the United States. You hate the West. You want to see it fall. They hate Russia because it's a white Christian country. That's a fact. Why Russia? And all of this, once you take three steps back, makes perfect sense. Like we have a lot of people in our country working actively for the destruction of the West
Starting point is 00:45:46 of Christian civilization. So that's just a fact. Um, sorry, they don't, you know, people don't like it when you say that, but they don't like it when you say it. Cause it's absolutely true. And the farther you get from the United States, that's one of the great benefits of travel. The more obvious it is like, you can't, you don't know you're married to an alcoholic until you go on vacation without that person. You're like, Oh shit, I'm married to an alcoholic. Like you can't, you don't know you're married to an alcoholic until you go on vacation without that person. You're like, oh shit, I'm married to an alcoholic. Like you can't see any of this when you're in the middle of it, but when you leave, it's like, oh my gosh. So, okay. I just want to go back a step. So you have made reference a couple of times to the rise in violence, the acceptance of violence, which is of course the, of course, the purest distillation of evil, in my opinion, the most obvious for sure. And there are signs that it's, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:31 we're entering a violent stage. I pray that we're not, but it feels like we are. You just had a longtime employee assassinated. I don't know the extent to which you want to talk about that, but what was that? Is it a harbinger of things to come? Well, a month ago, Jamie White, a great reporter, a great guy. We were working up there Sunday night until about 9 o'clock. I left. He went home and then got shot through the carotid artery, one shot through his neck, and then out the back. And then he bled to death. By the time I got to the hospital, about 15 minutes later, the police got there very quick.
Starting point is 00:46:58 How old was he? He was 36. And he was on the Ukraine hit list along with myself and you and a bunch of other people. Everybody getting the SWAT calls, the SWAT team sitting in their houses and their families has been on that list as well. Which is basically everyone you know. Yes. And then, of course, Ukraine tortured American journalist Gonzalo Lira to death and then celebrated that. And so, and of course, we have the would-be assassin down in Mar-a-Lago, who was a big leftist, connected all these intelligence agencies, recruiting hundreds of fighters for Ukraine, an American, then he comes back and tries to
Starting point is 00:47:38 kill Trump. So I think, I mean, you've seen Alexander Dugan's daughter blown up in front of him in 2022. In Moscow by the Ukrainians. In Moscow. Murdering a guy's daughter, applauded by Ann Applebaum and all the rest of the ghouls in the United States effectively because they don't like Alexander Dugan's ideas. So it's okay to murder his daughter? Well, that's the new – Clearly the help of U.S. intel agencies. I mean, let's stop lying so it's okay to murder his daughter? Well, that's the new, I mean, that's clearly the help of U.S. intel agencies. I mean, let's stop lying about it, right? Absolutely. I mean, I said three plus years ago when the war started, I said,
Starting point is 00:48:12 the U.S. is running all the targeting. Of course they are. With the weapons, that's just a fact. And with their soldiers on the ground, because I know some of the people whose sons are there, when it all started, were really nervous. They didn't give me details, but they're like, our sons are there, special operations. And there's been a lot of- U.S. military personnel fighting Russia in Ukraine. Absolutely. I mean, I'm on record three years ago saying that. And then two weeks ago, New York Times,
Starting point is 00:48:33 the U.S. has been running the war and been there the whole time. And ooh, get a Pulitzer Prize. So that was all known. And so now Trump is trying to rightfully end it. I mean, people that don't know, I know your audience knows, but we have Victoria Nuland. We have Soros back when he could still talk.
Starting point is 00:48:56 On Fareed Zarkari on CNN saying, oh, yeah, we went there with State Department money and overthrew their government 15 years ago. We did it again. And we're finally going to break up Russia. And I'm going to be the czar of Russia. Five weeks ago, they had the deputy head of the unelected EU commission say, oh, we're going to keep this war going for decades and we're going to bankrupt Russia with it. And we're going to break Russia in five parts. So they're on the news saying we want peace. We want love. Oh no, Ukraine will never join NATO, which is why Putin went in and the weapons being brought in onto his border and then separately zolensky's always no i joined nato and and and so again
Starting point is 00:49:30 the west started this war imagine if russia i'm aware yeah i know you know more better than anybody probably uh no it just hasn't circled i mean you've actually yeah i mean any american journalist you've been everywhere you've documented it it's just, we're starting the fight. These crazies are dragging us in to what's really already World War III conventionally, that every escalation moves us closer to a nuclear war. The doomsday clock with the atomic energy scientist, you know, was the closest it's ever been. And so this is really fundamental. And so any concern I have about being sued or law-fared or attacked doesn't even hit my psychological, spiritual, mental radar because the big threat is so big of what these megalomaniacs are doing.
Starting point is 00:50:14 So one thing I don't – one fact I don't think has penetrated the brains of policymakers in Washington is that we just lost a war with Russia. The U.S. was running that war, the U.S. military, the Pentagon, State Department, CIA, running the war against Russia. It was never about Ukraine. No one in Washington cares about Ukraine or the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian men destroyed. The fact it'll be populated by third worlders. I mean, Ukraine, we just eliminated Ukraine. Nobody cares. This was a war against Russia. They hate Russia for a lot of reasons, mostly spiritual. But we lost. And my concern is because nobody will say that out loud, that we're overstating our power. And in the same way that you sometimes see like divorced 60-year-old guys hitting on young women and don't realize that the young women think this is like absurd. You're like an old man.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Why? You really think I'm going to sleep with you? But the 60-year-old guy hasn't readjusted to the reality of his present condition he still thinks he's 25 did you see what i'm saying and he humiliates himself that can happen at the level of nations where you know you think you can affect outcomes that you actually don't have the power to bring about. And so that's called hubris. And that's how empires get destroyed and populations vaporized.
Starting point is 00:51:29 And I'm really afraid of that. Like, why can't, we should know that we were not able to win a conventional war against Russia, period. So like, what does that say about our power? And maybe we should readjust our expectations a little bit. I don't want that to be true. By the way, I want, I'm rooting for,
Starting point is 00:51:44 I'm American, I'm American. I'm not leaving. My family's buried here. But, like, don't you think that we run the risk of thinking we're capable of things that we're not capable of doing? Well, as an example, Hillary had a lot of fraud baked in, but Trump won in such a landslide, he beat her. And then a lot of Republicans and conservatives and populists thought Trump was going to win for sure, so we'd have as big a turnout. So they were able to steal 2020, but there was such a giant landslide this time. It overrode the mail-in ballots, you know, the dead people, the illegal aliens voting, all of that, they ran out of bullets. But that's a perfect example of how the Democrats were sure they were going to win in November last year. And they were sure they were going to win in November last year, and they were sure they were going to win in November in 2016, and they didn't.
Starting point is 00:52:26 So they had this incredible hubris and this incredible arrogance, and so many of them are actually militarily ignorant themselves. They just put on this big imperious act. And, of course, there's the clip of Sean Penn saying, well, I don't think think nuclear weapons should be off the table we shouldn't be afraid to use them because that gives russian advantage well it's called mutually assured destruction for a reason because anybody that uses them is insane uh so i mean well they got in the middle of the war this just came out the other day the pentagon wrote an assessment saying that they calculated that if we gave weapons to uk that allowed the Ukrainian military or our military using Ukraine as a proxy to hit targets within Russia, they judged the likelihood of a nuclear exchange at 50%. And they did it anyway. At that point, like, you should be in prison for the criminally insane.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Well, that's right. If Russia moved. You're risking nuclear war? Like, you should be locked up. I don't understand. Like that's the I couldn't even believe that. I mean, I, of course, intuitively knew that. And say that again. It's not a rub. That's important to say again for people that the Pentagon under Joe Biden assessed because they assess the likelihood of everything or they get, you know, they guess they sort of work out how they think things will progress. But in every scenario globally, they do this. This is what they do at the Pentagon. And they assess that if we gave certain weapons, weapons that allowed the Ukrainians to strike targets within Russia, if we did that, which we did, the chance of a nuclear exchange, nuclear holocaust that killed everybody on Earth would be 50 percent. And they did it anyway. So imagine the brain, imagine the evil. Like you would have to be controlled
Starting point is 00:54:07 by like supernatural forces to do so. I think there's a 50% chance every person on earth could be killed in a nuclear exchange, but I'm doing it anyway. Like, why aren't you, how are you still walking free? I'm serious. No, and I'm glad you brought that assessment up because I've really tried to be able to focus on that.
Starting point is 00:54:26 And I agree with that assessment. I mean, let's boil that down. Imagine if Russia had the equivalent of attack them in storm shadows in Canada, in Mexico, on our border, that they can fire above the trees that can't be shot down, that are nuclear capable. And Putin said this. He said, if you shoot a few missiles once it started, we'll just shoot them down. But if we see a large aerospace attack with a whole bunch of these, we have to believe it is a first strike to take out our nuclear deterrent. And so when we see a large signature of a large aerospace attack, be it cruise missiles, be it glide bombs, be it a mix of aircraft or all of them, we will do a total commitment. And then Russia and TV said, here's the government scenario. And it showed nukes hitting all the NATO countries and submarines hitting on from there. And we're talking about
Starting point is 00:55:18 world destroyed in 30 minutes, folks, for sure. Submarines off our coast, two minutes new york's gone you know five minutes dallas is gone uh this is uh real what would happen if russia was bombing uh dc with conventional bombs uh with large heavy cruise missiles that that they're droning the capital as the u.s did through the ukrainians they droned the Kremlin. You were there once when you saw him blow up? I was there. I was there. I was actually driving by when I was over there last winter to interview Putin. I was driving by the Kremlin just like on the street in downtown Moscow.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Smoke coming out of the top of the Kremlin. And so I called the guy at the press office who I was dealing with to set up the Putin interview from the vehicle. And I was like, I think your Kremlin's on fire and he's like oh no no no it's not i was like i'm right there i'm looking at it russians never want to admit that they have been unable to defend their capital city so they you know a lot of murder has taken place by the ukrainians of russians in and attempted murder of americans by the way and just think about the provocation here and but the russians in every case like oh that's not happening they don't want to admit it because for a bunch of reasons but it would force them to respond but anyway i called up and like i think you guys just
Starting point is 00:56:32 got droned no no didn't happen but it did happen i saw it i personally saw it so like there's been a ton of that stuff what would we do if the russians dr U.S. Capitol or the White House? That's so freaking crazy. I can't believe that happened. Russia knows it's a provocation. The globalists want to reset. Their financial system is going down. And they're willing to roll the dice. And they think a nuclear war is survivable, as you know, as the Pentagon has said.
Starting point is 00:56:59 So it's complete madness. Nuclear war is not survivable. That's a fact. It's not. By the way, a nuclear weapon explodes over a nuclear power plant. What happens? Anyone know? Massive meltdown that makes Fukushima look like a-
Starting point is 00:57:09 Exactly. And we have a lot of nuclear power plants around the world. So- There's over 450 that are big industrial, thousands of small ones. And when society breaks down, they all melt down in different ways, much worse than Fukushima and Chernobyl combined. I agree. And it makes the whole surface of the earth, that's mainline science, unlivable for hundreds
Starting point is 00:57:29 of millions of years. I agree. And I know everyone's for nuclear power, and it's like, obviously, we need nuclear power. I don't, okay, I'm not against nuclear power in theory, but until someone can answer the question you just posed, like, what about that? Plus, they're never run right. They always have scenarios where they're not going to leak. Basically, they all leak.
Starting point is 00:57:45 You see all these stupid conservatives like, the answer is nuclear. You want more AI data centers, comma, which I don't. The answer is coal. Obviously, but I don't understand why everyone, this is such a sidebar and I'll stop in one sentence, but like those of us who grew up in the 70s and 80s remember that all the opponents nuclear power were like you know furry armpit dumb people and you know all the greenpeace people and so you're just like oh shut up nuclear is obviously the solution like you just don't understand science how can you be against climate change and also against nuclear power i've said that myself like a hundred times on tv but it's not about the spent fuel rods when we do with nuclear waste. That's easy. Put it in Yucca Mountain.
Starting point is 00:58:25 It's about what if these things are untended? What if they're, you know, the subject of a conventional or nuclear attack? And you look at all the mismanagement. Massive vulnerability. Like, why doesn't anyone mention that? Before we put nuclear power plants all over my country, which I think a lot of people are psyched to do because they want to get rich from AI. Like, they should answer the question. That's really freaking scary, no?
Starting point is 00:58:47 Well, you have to also ask, why do they build so many here and in like Japan, the plants right on fault lines? I mean, there's a real, we see a lot of ineptitude in industry and things. So you don't want to have things that have the potential to be so dangerous. And when coal creates carbon dioxide that plants breathe, and the earth used to have a lot higher carbon dioxide than it does now, and it makes plants live longer, yields are up, it will green the planet, all the studies show it. We're actually terraforming the earth to make it better. It's like God-given when you actually look at the real studies and talk to the real climatologists, the people, they'll tell you,
Starting point is 00:59:23 no, no, no, it's great that we're bringing this old carbon back up and putting it back in the atmosphere. This is fabulous. More carbon is good. Carbon, carbon dioxide, oxygen, water, and sunlight are the four ingredients of life on this planet. And the globalists created a way to tax and regulate one of the four pillars of life on this planet. It is good. I mean, again, they try to convince us that cow's methane is bad. You actually look at the carbon equation, it all turns right back into the gases it came from. It's a good guess. But again, if the cows are bad, well, what else releases methane? We do. We're the carbon that they want to reduce. They want to teach us to
Starting point is 01:00:01 hate ourselves, teach us not to have a life force, and their new religion is they will give us all these indulgences and all these flagellations and all these things we have to do to atone for how bad we are to the priest class that is the big satanic green church. So, the threat of nuclear war overhangs any conflict with a country that has nuclear weapons, of course. You push someone far enough, you know, you don't know what could happen, and it could result in the extinction of humanity. So that's like the main fact. That's why people want Iran not to have nukes, right, obviously. So with that in mind, what do you make of the public,
Starting point is 01:00:38 repeated public statements by a bunch of European leaders, particularly Starmer in the UK and the president of France, that they're ready to continue the war against Russia with their own feeble armies. That seems crazy. What is that actually about? And they've said that now they're sending their troops that if they get killed, then that's direct war with NATO. They admit that the EU population-wise is collapsing.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Those they've brought in, most of them, 80%, never even get jobs. All the different ministers, defense ministers, as you know, the last few years have said, our business model is a 20-year war. They think they can continue that and somehow bankrupt Russia and, again, break it up into five parts. So they've made it existential for themselves. They've made it existential for themselves they made it existential for russia and you go back to the pentagon assessment that was public that 50 chance
Starting point is 01:01:31 that if we start bombing and that's the west doing it mainly the u.s inside russia they would strike back with nukes and then putin clarifying well if we see a large launch it could be a sneak attack with nukes so we're gonna have to go ahead and nuke you at that point. Please don't do that. So at least they limited, you know, to four or five big cruise missile attacks a day. And then, you know, maybe 100 drones a day going into major cities and attacking their nuclear bases, their nuclear bomber bases. I mean, extreme provocation, testing the line and not playing Russian roulette where you have a six shot revolver and you put one 357 magnum casing in round in but this is three out of six and they're like well that's a safe bet let's roll the dice spin the cylinder and then click it to our head every day it just goes the fundamental insanity that you see escalating i mean if you go back to the but actual like actual
Starting point is 01:02:23 insanity not you know i don't know will tariffs work or something, you know, whatever you could argue. But like risking nuclear war? I mean, that's so fucking crazy that I can hardly believe it's real. That's a good point. They say Trump saying our surrender to these one-sided trade deals, which is totally true and deindustrialized us and destroyed our morale and is a huge national security issue that he's rolling the dice there no no it would be rolling the dice with nuclear war again i think you should be in prison for even having that that's like the craziest thing i can imagine well remember biden just two years ago said we can't send f-16s and abrams tanks because that escalates the threat ladder of the rank corporation that's world war
Starting point is 01:03:01 three but they went ahead and did that then they went to the bombing inside. So the reason I went back to that, I'm glad you raised it, is the EU is refusing to end the war. We're trying to drag us into it fully. They're arresting their political opposition, Colleen Drogescu in Romania, they're not letting him run in the new election. He's an amazing man.
Starting point is 01:03:19 I just talked to him the day before yesterday. And then Marlene Le Pen, that is super popular in the head presidential polls so they have a judge find her guilty of nothing and take her off the ballot you have the state department under biden admittedly working in brazil uh with lula to take bolsonaro off the ballot because he's popular and then indict him and they're talking about doing it in hungary they're talking about doing it in poland They're talking about doing it in Poland. They said if AFD won, which they almost did, that the EU commission might cancel that election.
Starting point is 01:03:49 So the EU has really taken off the mask, and people that don't know, it was set up in 56 as a steel deal, Treaty of Rome, and they got the nations over time to sign away their sovereignty to it. I remember. And an unelected commission with van der Leyen,
Starting point is 01:04:04 you know, up there running all of this. And she even came out, as you know, on Monday and said, well, Trump's blown up the international order. He's defeated the New World Order. And she said, OK, we're going to go ahead and agree, at least in principle, to what Trump is saying. And that's because the trade is completely one-sided. So, again, Trump's move isn't just the perfect move. It's perfect in that it's the only moves we have left for us and for global stabilization. That's why anybody that
Starting point is 01:04:30 cares about self-preservation for the whole planet should be fully behind Trump's policies that are very popular around the world and are seen as sane. And again, the world, this huge alliance of nations wants to join that team. And the good news is Trump's polls are the highest ever. I know the American people are understanding that and getting that. The concern is... It is kind of crazy that his number...
Starting point is 01:04:57 I mean, I'm getting... You know, because I live in a rich people world for part of the year. I know a lot of rich people, and boy, they're really upset. And I share their instinctive concern about any chaos. My parents got divorced. I know a lot of rich people and boy, they're really upset. And I share their instinctive concern about any chaos. My parents got divorced. I hate chaos, right?
Starting point is 01:05:10 So I get that. But from my perspective, I'll just admit it, like on my phone, it's like, I voted for Trump. What the hell's going on? And I get it. I'm not criticizing anyone. But then his numbers go up. It just shows you that you can, even I, really make a big effort to live in different places, know different people, not be a captive of my surroundings, not just live among rich people with like dumb rich people attitudes.
Starting point is 01:05:34 I really try to be bigger than that. And I always flatter myself that I succeed. But even I am like, I guess, kind of captive to that because then I see the numbers and I'm like, people really like this. His numbers went up after the tariffs. That's correct, right? Wow. Well, I'd like to talk to folks out there saying Trump is being a destabilizer. The globalist order was collapsing by their own corruption and mismanagement and their alliance with China being double-crossed.
Starting point is 01:06:01 And so that old order was already being collapsed by them and trump's coming in very pragmatically with a good fair freedom-based meritocracy uh competition based system but you know to to to people that want to talk about destabilization starting the war with russia total destabilization dissolving the borders and all the human smuggling and the fentanyl total destabilization uh in in engaging all this overspending and all the human smuggling and the fentanyl exactly total destabilization uh in in engaging all this overspending and and the country basically being bankrupt if we don't grow our way out of it totally stabilization and then wink wink the attempted assassinations of trump what do they think would have happened if trump really would have gotten killed uh in
Starting point is 01:06:39 pennsylvania in july of last year or a few months later in Florida. If you look at the scenarios there, they run from bad to worse. So the real destabilization. And bad for the people behind it. Like clearly those assassinations were not lone gunmen. They were part of a much, much larger conspiracy, obviously. Everyone knows that. But those people behind those attempted murders would have been in bigger trouble had those murders succeeded, attempted murders would have been in bigger trouble had those murders succeeded
Starting point is 01:07:05 attempted murder succeeded correct absolutely and if they somebody's able to kill trump now people better hope he doesn't get struck by a bolt of lightning because the bad guys will get to blame and that's why so many people that have kind of been on the fence the establishment but we're working with the globalists just because that was the system are enthusiastically joining Trump and Elon because they understand that this is the only game in town for people that aren't delusional. But you have that megalomania. I think that's so true. Yeah. You have that megalomania historically when elites have never lost before and are losing that they just continue to accelerate and intensify. And I know you've covered this. A lot of the people don't seem to know that in August of 2020, I mentioned it earlier, there was a big article in
Starting point is 01:07:50 the New York Times with John Podesta covering a war game they just had that if Trump was able to win, they were going to have blue states secede and blue cities secede and then create civil unrest and civil war conditions. And then when they knew Trump was going to win, because the poll numbers were so incredible a few months before the last election last year, Raskin, Carville, Podesta, all of them said civil war conditions. We're going to need to have uprisings. Carville said that. Trump's coming to kill you. We got to rise up, Carville said, and others. And they are clearly escalating with the Tesla attacks and the swatting attacks and the calls for violence the 55 percent of you know liberal democrats in a study want trump killed they are embracing you know real terrorism real domestic terrorism and that's building towards what i believe
Starting point is 01:08:38 is in the cards because you see the democrat pundits and their operatives everywhere before the election and after it in the last 78 days or so saying, once he got in office, Trump and Tom Holman are going to kill migrants. And when they do, there's going to be an uprising. And well, Trump's not going to go mow down people at an illegal alien demonstration. You also have them saying Trump supporters are going to attack black people. Well, where would black people be alone in big numbers? A church, a university? Trump supporters are going to kill black people. And we know a lot of the globalist groups have been funding white supremacist groups and domestic terror groups and basically run them historically.
Starting point is 01:09:16 So the last piece with all the pre-programming I've seen is that to have these uprisings, you're going to need something much bigger than George Floyd, much bigger than Jesse Smollett. And so I am predicting on the current trajectory of what they were getting before and what they said, the final piece they need for this destabilization that they'll label a race-based civil war that will then crash the markets and be used kind of like their predictive programming in the movie that came out last year, Civil War,
Starting point is 01:09:44 to have a bunch of states and the main military join them in a military operation to remove Trump when the Trumpian figure in the movie is killed, you know, and executed inside the Oval Office. And so that's their dream. That's their backup plan. And you have the two camps. One camp is kind of the Chuckucky schumer it's completely evil but isn't particularly publicly pushing that though he had his famous whirlwind you know we're coming after you speech but he's an old man absolutely so you have the soros wing with alexander soros that more and more is in charge and is really making a run uh at escalating domestic unrest and terrorism leading into some triggering event starting. Things are aligning for this summer. And I know that folks in the government, their patriots are
Starting point is 01:10:35 aware of that. But I think that the spokespersons and others need to really get ahead of all this calls for violence and not just repudiate it, but talk about the Democrat leadership and their talking heads that are pushing. And I mean, we've seen Colbert just last week say, deep state, please, you know, do something, stop Trump. And so that's where we are. So they want to expand war to try to take control of the agenda. They've been hyping a new virus being released to try to stop Trump's reboot of our economy because they think that would stop this populist revolution. In Europe, it's arresting their political opposition and stopping elections. And they also have Europe trying to sue Elon Musk and billion-dollar fines trying to shut him down like we saw with Brazil.
Starting point is 01:11:20 So those are the different strategies. They're also doing big put options and naked shorts trying to crash the market and then blaming Trump's tariffs on that. So it's economic terrorism, the buildup of domestic terrorism, the false flags that can be used, a nuclear false flag to get us into direct war with Russia, a new viral release. Those are the things they've got set up, ready to go, and that they've said before they would use to maintain control. Everybody loves and appreciates first responders. When things go haywire, they're the ones who show up and make you safe, protect you, not just you, but the entire country. Most people agree they're heroes. But what happens if they can't show up? First responders cannot be everywhere all the time. And if there's an emergency, particularly a big emergency, there aren't enough to go around.
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Starting point is 01:14:50 Protect your family. Be prepared. Go to AmmoSquared.com to learn more. The first thing in countries that descend into darkness that happens is speech is controlled. And there are political police who put people who speak out against the regime in jail. And that's happening in Brazil, as you know. It's happening in the UK. It's happening in Germany. They're trying it in Canada. It's definitely happening in Canada. And these were formerly free countries in Australia. And so the one place that it isn't going to happen right now
Starting point is 01:15:21 is the United States because of the First Amendment. So how do you end First Amendment protections? Well, you pick off people like you, which they've been trying to do for over a decade. And, you know, I happen to be, as I've told you many times in private, I happen to be on a fishing trip when I worked at Fox the night that you were taken off the air. And I thought it was like one of the greatest threats to speech in the United States I'd ever seen. I wasn't there. And Fox News like prevented my co my fill in host from defending you because Alex Jones is bad. Okay. That's what I realized they were in on it. But um, but they need to end speech in the United States. They need to shut down X they have to. And my guess is and I hope I'm wrong that there's there is like legitimate hate and extremism on social media,
Starting point is 01:16:05 you know, to the point where it makes me uncomfortable. I'm thinking that maybe a lot of that is manufactured actually. And that if there is a mass shooting and God forbid, but if there is a mass shooting of the people who've been targeted for hate on actual hate, that's true, on social media, that that will be used as a pretext to shut it down absolutely and and has this occurred to you yes because i see people on on social media who i know for a fact i think i know are being funded by the very people they're attacking it's like what um including one of the biggest voices like i know that that's true and so like what is this and it's clearly um preparatory to some sort of event that will shut down
Starting point is 01:16:53 a violent event that will be used as a pretext to shut down free speech am i being paranoid no i i that's that's where all the foundation's been laid the actually the superstructure has been built yeah they're just putting the finishing touches on it and so in a way it's fortuitous that i'm here today because you were here i was talking to my lawyer right before we started taping we got some really big news uh that in connecticut the supreme court i said we're not even hearing your appeal now because it was so strong the kangaroo show trial that i was went through there a few years ago where the judge had already found me guilty uh wouldn't let guilty of what of having an unauthorized opinion of being mean or whatever
Starting point is 01:17:31 those are all legal under the u.s constitution like you cannot be punished for giving your opinion i don't care how ugly other people think it is and and you've contested whether you even gave that opinion it doesn't doesn't matter under our system you're allowed to say what you think period well you're right especially that's what the bill of rights is and we have the supreme court rulings uh and with the new york times sullivan scene and and brandenburg versus ohio you have a right to your opinion and and what they did was with all these pr firms and massive thousands of articles sometimes a month and hundreds of tv programs a year they built a straw man once i was censored off the internet the last seven years still on my website in
Starting point is 01:18:09 fullworth.com still on some talk radio but it was the verboten thing people had to go you know get underground they could then build a straw man of things i had supposedly done i never did and then when i wasn't defended other than people like you it set the precedent to then come after everybody else including president trump when he was taking off everything on January 6th. So people couldn't hear him saying be peaceful before. I defended black nationalists who hate whites. Obviously don't agree with them. I am white.
Starting point is 01:18:34 So are my kids. Like, I reject their program. But they were indicted for giving their opinions. And, like, we cannot allow that. And now the ACLU is just completely captured. It's like a tranny organization, nothing to do with free speech. Like, where are the people who will stand up for the foundational right that separates a free man from a slave, which is the right to say what you think? And why were they also, may they bask in shame for not defending you?
Starting point is 01:19:00 I mean that. Well, I have a major update. In the last seven years of them suing me and this whole saga, we now have basically all the pieces of exactly what happened. I told you some about it last night. It would take a few minutes, but I could just give people a basic summation of what's happened. Yeah, please. But first, just an example of free speech. In Texas, there's famous cases where they take people's small children because the school secretly convinces them with grant money.
Starting point is 01:19:23 They get paid for it, public and private. A little boy is really a girl little girl's really a boy they then the parents find out the school's been putting them in a database giving them a social worker sending them to special school times with peer pressure of other kids that have been put in the cult for sterilization transhumanism and then they take the person's child saying it's abuse when you argue you know my son is really a boy not a girl well now colorado in the house as you know just passed uh the bill it's in the senate and they allowed no debate uh saying that if a parent finds out their kid is being brainwashed and says no my my son is a boy my girl is a girl that is abuse and they're going to officially take
Starting point is 01:20:02 your child other states have passed laws like o Oregon and Washington. So you talk about free speech. This is beyond that. This is parental rights. This is everything. Now say parents can't argue and say to the state that has determined that your child's another sex. And then in places like New Jersey and other states, the hospital systems now have on the form when your child's born, dozens of things, transgender, all these other names, genderqueer, all these things where the parents pick at birth what the baby's going to be and say this.
Starting point is 01:20:41 So if the state wants to come and say they're another sex, that's okay. If parents don't like it, their kid gets taken to these areas. That's where this is going. It's already happening. But if the parents want to opt in, they can decide for their child. So as long as you decide that we're going to chemically and then medically sterilize surgically this poor little person that's being put into this death cult, then it's okay. The only thing you're not allowed to say is no. I say no to this designation. So that's where Alex Jones having his speech massively attack goes. So it's a long story, but here's the summation. I didn't understand, even though I know a lot of
Starting point is 01:21:16 things about politics in the world, I didn't understand how PR firms work, how law firms work, how the deep state was operating. And they later admitted even even on MSNBC, that a few years ago, oh, we've been successful with Alex Jones. Next, we're going to do it with people like Tucker Carlson. And they mentioned you. So Hillary knows she's in trouble. Two months before the election, 2016, she does a 20-plus million dollar ad buy talking about me and twisting what I had said about that event in Connecticut, that mass shooting. And then the ad, she says, Alex Jones is Trump's brain. This is the guy that Trump says is an amazing person. We'll be talking a lot. You're a great guy. And they show that clip of Trump on my show saying that. So they created a demonized version of me to attack Trump.
Starting point is 01:21:59 Then that made me this huge demon with the left even more. Then for two years, articles every day, sometimes dozens a day, TV shows, programs, PBS, CNN, MSNBC, every channel, foreign news, Tokyo news, Russian news. It was being pushed over. Alex Jones is bullying kids. Parents of dead kids. Alex Jones is sending people to pee on graves. None of that ever even happened, much less me. And then they sue me. And then they want me and then they
Starting point is 01:22:25 want all this discovery. And they say, who do you work for? Who's telling you what to do in the Republicans in all these depositions? Of course, it wasn't there. So they hold me in default for saying I didn't give them my secret plan to get rich off these people that I barely ever even talked about. They put 22 minutes of evidence in the Texas show trial where I was found guilty by the judge and the Connecticut show trial that were only a month apart in 2022 in the fall. So I go in, HBO's producing it, cameras putting makeup on the judges. I'm given 20 plus things I can't talk about. My lawyers are sanctioned if they try to raise that. Well, where did Alex Jones say this? Where did he do this? No evidence could be showed to counter them. They could just say whatever they wanted to.
Starting point is 01:23:03 And then they have a billion and a half dollar judgment in Connecticut. They have a $50 million judgment total or $49 million in Texas because I'm already found guilty. Then the judge tells them to say how guilty I am. They lie and totally exaggerate all the money I have. Say I got it from these people with no evidence. And so I knew I was being railroaded for my speech. They said in the Connecticut trial and in the Texas show trial
Starting point is 01:23:25 and on the courthouse steps, we don't want money for Mr. Jones. We want to shut him down. They said that in court filing. So I go into bankruptcy because I'm out of money personally, never had all this money, they said, not even a fraction of it. And so for three years, I'm in bankruptcy. And they keep going and say, we don't want money. We want him closed.
Starting point is 01:23:42 The judge keeps saying, no, you have to actually, you know know do a settlement with him or we have to sell him for wars this is all because you said something that other people said they were offended by yes but but but how can you i don't understand in a free country how other people being offended by what you say can have you destroyed by the state well well it's more than that they said i sent people to their houses i peed on graves all this stuff that nobody i did why weren't you arrested you can't pee on a grave why weren't you arrested in connecticut why weren't you arrested out of the people that sued me i only said the name of one of the people ever if you commit a crime you should be criminally charged for it and the state has to prove that
Starting point is 01:24:24 you did it at which point you're convicted and punished if the state accuses you of something but doesn't charge you with it they're fucking liars like by definition they they don't that's not on the list of options that they can just discredit you attack your character destroy you no no the state has one option if you committed a crime they charge you with the crime and they prove you did the crime it's that's right and i never got investigated for stalking or anything because i did nothing for any crime so so so so here's where it gets crazy here's what we've learned since they had the show trials i noticed none of the libertarians defended you either where was the reason foundation and cato and all these supposedly freedom-minded non-profits were just liars. Like none of them defended you that I know of.
Starting point is 01:25:07 Bare minimum, they were bought off or they wanted to keep their head down. So here's what we learned. The Democratic Party and the Justice Department, the FBI, the CIA, this has come out in court, come out in documents now. We've got it all. I published it at Infowars. They can be shut down literally in days now. We're finally up to the wire today with this big ruling.
Starting point is 01:25:23 But the truth's out there, but they don't want you to know it so they come after me to demonize trump then they run ads on facebook and twitter and everywhere for the two years before they sue me 2017 2018 saying i'm attacking him saying i'm coming after him using my name to raise money okay it turns out hundreds of millions using my name this has come out saying i'm victimizing them and then never showing what i supposedly did just this man's hurting us help us help us then i was already taken off the internet after that for other reasons uh that they cooked up uh they had uh lester holt get up on tv and say alex jones called for people to get battle rifles and go attack democrats no i talked about them Antifa attack in your house and how they were planning to attack more people's houses,
Starting point is 01:26:08 and I said none of us are going to be violent, but I said everybody needs to have their battle rifle ready or their shotgun in their home if the left comes to kill you. Well, as someone whose house was attacked by Antifa, I agree completely. But then Holt never showed what I supposedly said. He just said straight up. Okay, so I wasn't even taken off the internet for. Okay. So I wasn't even taken off internet for a Sandy hook because I wasn't even known for that. Okay. Barely ever talked about it.
Starting point is 01:26:30 Then they sue me. Then they run more PR. Then they raise more money off of me. And then when they didn't find anything in their, all their discovery, because there was nothing that I did, then they have the judges both find me in default coordinate for both trials to be held in a month and a half period in late 2022 and then right after they win the jury's fine for all this money they come back and they say that's not enough your honor we want 2.75 trillion that's the gdp of india people don't believe that it's type in alex jones sandy hook 2.75 trillion and and so the judge said no you just get 1. Just type in Alex Jones, Sandy Hook, 2.75 trillion. And so the judge said, no, you just get 1.5 billion.
Starting point is 01:27:08 In retrospect, did you ever think when they awarded judgment against you equivalent to the GDP of India, did you ever think like maybe I should keep my visions to myself and not like next time I see 9-11 coming, I just shouldn't say anything because people who predict the future accurately are always punished for it? I think that's, mean yeah i mean well what i realized was i've got something important to say so i better say it even louder because the evil wants to shut down but just to finish the key part i'm sorry sorry no no no no no it's making me upset hearing this no no no i'm saying i haven't gotten to the big stuff i'm just giving people the background this is not the country i grew up in at all just saying that sorry no no you're right thank're right. Thank you for the platform. No, thank you, Tucker.
Starting point is 01:27:47 And I told you all this last night. It took 30 minutes. Let me just try to condense it. So I know they're trying to demonize me to get at Trump. I know they're trying to set the president to shut down everybody else. And once I'm demonized, they think nobody will defend me. And that sets the precedent. They admitted all that. Then when they win the show trial that was already fixed, these PR firms come out of New York and Connecticut and go, we've been doing this for years. We exposed Jones. We did this. We helped get this big win.
Starting point is 01:28:11 Blah, blah, blah. Then this undercover video comes out that is in a predator sexting trolling operation in D.C., which the guy was never implicated in, but that's how he got caught up with the troll trolling operation in DC, which the guy was never implicated in, but that's how he got caught up with the troll, trolling operation. This Oblevis person, CIA and FBI, it's confirmed, says, well, we investigated Alex Jones for years at the FBI, then he went on the CIA, that's where he's currently, and he said we couldn't find anything criminal on him, so we went to the Sandy Hook people with law firms and we developed this plan with this narrative to take him down. And now we're in the process of shutting him down. And the person says, well, are you still trying to put him in prison? No, we've just destroyed his name and destroyed who he is. It's all on video. It's online. Just type in FBI, CIA agent admits to running Sandy Hook framed job of Alex Jones.
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Starting point is 01:29:44 Visit your GTA Volvo retailer or go to volvocars.ca for full details. Just to kind of refresh our baseline assumptions here, is the CIA allowed to destroy people in the United States for criticizing? No, it's illegal. Oh, it's illegal, okay. Of course, you're begging the question, but absolutely.
Starting point is 01:30:01 So then we have that, but then I go, wait a minute. At the trial last year, they have this FBI agent who was the chief counsel who, on the stand, they say it, to hide it in plain view. The Democratic Party law firm talked to him for like a day. And he goes, so you went and got the suit against Mr. Jones. Yes, I went to your law firm, Mr. Koskoff, and I went to the families, you know, and I organized them to do this. So they're hiding in plain view the chief counsel of Connecticut that I didn't even pick up on at the time. Why is he on the stand? I'm sitting there talking about how he went and set this up and did this to me.
Starting point is 01:30:37 Then later we have Oblebas talking about years ago we criminally investigated him for a decade. We couldn't find anything. So we went into this sibling. So now that's two of them admitting it on the stand and undercover video. Now, this is where it gets wild. Then three days after Trump's in office, we'd done a four-year request two years ago for my FBI file. We'd done it many times.
Starting point is 01:30:57 They'd never responded back. Soon as Trump gets in, they send us a disc in the mail. I got a call from the FBI saying, hey, be sure you watch your mail. And they send me a disc of our foyer and it was 196 files, but it was just the cover sheets. They said the rest of national security, but it said Alex Jones, top national security threat, Obama administration ordered me to be a level three terror national security threat in 2013. I'd call Sarah Fanon who knows how to read the code documents on the dozens of pages I got that were attached. He said probably to thousands, but 196 other investigation packets. And we're talking weekly and monthly meetings out of the Boston
Starting point is 01:31:35 field office. And Trump didn't learn about this as first admin. So we learned this was going on until I was sent this by the new FBI director, okay, or the new FBI. And it's just the cover sheets, but they have codes on it that Kyle Serafin used to run counterterrorism, the FBI, huge whistleblower, came on my show for hours and documented what it meant. Then he talked to his sources currently in DC and they said, yeah, we're actually on this. It's bad. Okay. So Obama illegally had me declare a national security threat, open criminal espionage investigation with huge resources humet attempted infiltration that's all the codes and that's now makes sense people people we'd hire trying to set us up trying to get us to commit crimes all this stuff over the years hacking
Starting point is 01:32:15 into our surveillance camera systems trying to find something dirty all sorts of sabotage so now i mean i'm living in a spy movie so so so we so so we get that like 10 days in the trump administration three days in they they mail it it comes to mail like seven days later so now we have that so we have oblevis admitting it from the fbi and cia we have the other uh lead council in connecticut admitting on the stand proud of it i didn't complain for you just because they knew it come out then we get another fbi contact they say why don't you go look at the federal register and look for money going to these Sandy Hook Foundations of the people that sued me? We go look. It's $4 million plus in payments to them right after they sue me and then two payments to them during when both trials started.
Starting point is 01:33:01 Payments from whom? From the Justice Department. So tax dollars? Tax dollars, over $4 million from the Justice Department were paid to the main Sandy Hook foundation that is on the board and the head of it for the people suing me that ran it. This is crazy. So now we have the Justice Department and I'm releasing those documents. I was actually planning to release them today, a week ago before you invited me out here. So that's all going to be out today, the documents, all of it, but it's online. They don't hide it. Also, millions and millions and millions more of
Starting point is 01:33:34 COVID money went to them, and you know what happened to Cori Bush's husband. I'm not saying it's illegal. It should be looked into. So this is why this is important this is the most open and shut start to finish operation we've ever seen with all this money directly from the justice department with the justice department admitting they initiated it undercover tapes with the cia then you have the fbi admitting on the stand that they initiated it then you have the money directly from the justice department to them directly when they're attacking me and then it gets worse in the last year in my bankruptcy they had before that they attached the u.s trustee which they can do under federal law to my bankruptcy like i'm in ron most people don't have this happen so there's just department lawyers and agents at my depositions giving me u.s code to read before the deposition when after i'm sworn in that if i say anything incorrect they're
Starting point is 01:34:24 going to charge me with felonies okay but i still don't take the fix i've done nothing wrong and i have accountants and it's all lies they're alleging i've stolen hundreds of millions of dollars from these people none of that's true don't have hundreds of dollars ever had 10 million dollars of extra laying around with these stole money from what people they just say i harassed them i made money off them it's their money it's just all made up but i have the just department there so then the just department has the u U S trustee in may of last year, order a private security company on a Friday evening to show up with guns on their sides and say, everybody out of the building. And I say, where's the court order? And I say,
Starting point is 01:34:58 call the head of your security company. I get on the phone. He goes, Hey, I'm telling the people this too. We got to have a court order. I'm going to tell them no. They showed up at your office? They showed up at my office. With guns? Armed security, yes. Yeah. And so I call my lawyers. They don't even believe it's happening.
Starting point is 01:35:15 We get a hearing and the judge blocks it. Then he has a full evidentiary hearing June 14th. Fires the U.S. trustee, removes them, removes the CRO that did it, okay, in the bankruptcy. And then appoints a new one who comes in to be all buddy-buddy. Then he says, okay, we want to sell it, and then that way proceeds have sold him for it. But then we have buyers that are good that will keep it going. The Sandy Hook family, it's really a Democratic Party,
Starting point is 01:35:42 says we don't want money in court filings. We want it shut down. The judge says, no, you will sell it at an auction, but cash auction. Then they have a auctions date set the day before they say that's canceled. It'll be private bids turned in on that Monday. And then the next day we will tell you the winner is. Well, then it was the Bloomberg financing, his Everytown group, the onion. Everybody heard the onion had gotten in for us. Remember that? Back in November. So all that happened. So we counter sue. The judge has hearings on December 9th and 10th, says there was never an auction. It was fraudulent. You know, you guys need to settle this and you need to get money for Mr. Jones's buyers and it needs to stop. They come back to the judge three times and say,
Starting point is 01:36:23 we don't want money. We don't ever want it sold. We want it shut down. So the judge said about a month ago, he said, okay, I'm done. This has gone on three years. Take it to state court. The state court is Judge Bellis that did the show trial with HBO. That's Judge Gwere Gamble in Texas. That's the other judge in Connecticut.
Starting point is 01:36:44 So it's Judge Gwere Gamble, just like Judge Bellis, running the show trial, finding me guilty. She has said as soon as she gets that, she's going to send in the constables from the county and just close the doors, lock it. Because they don't want the money that it can produce. They don't want any of that. They want it shut down. Can I just ask you a reality-based question here, Sue? All of this stems – Sorry, that's such a long story.
Starting point is 01:37:04 No, no, no. It's a shocking story, but I just don't a reality-based question here? So all of this stems... Sorry, that's such a long story. No, no, no, no. It's a shocking story, but I just don't want to lose the baseline. And it's never been told in full. The baseline facts. Okay, so all of this stems from a school shooting in Connecticut. 12 years ago. 12 years ago. And you suggested on air that there was something weird about this.
Starting point is 01:37:23 I covered other people saying that. Correct. You did not commit the school shooting. I covered other people saying that. Correct. You did not commit the school shooting. No. Adam Lanza did. Adam Lanza did. And I said for years, I believe it happened before they sued me. Right.
Starting point is 01:37:32 So we spent approximately zero time and zero money as a country trying to figure out why would Adam Lanza murder all these children? We're all against murdering children. Some of us are against murdering all children, including in foreign countries and here in abortion clinics, we're just against murdering kids. Okay, so I'm not going to cede the moral high ground on kids to ghouls like this. So, okay, but we have no idea why Adam Lanza did this. No one's trying to find out. You instead are being blamed, who are the father of four kids, for the murder of all these kids when you had literally nothing to do with the murder at all. And the actual murderer is probably brain fried and SSRIs or whatever the cause like no one cares
Starting point is 01:38:08 that's right he was on SSRIs like almost all of them and exactly and here's the finale but like no one cares it's like all these people jump up and down including some of these parents I assume and like I understand they're upset their kids are murdered I mean I have true compassion for them but they're blaming you for it? And then raising money, hundreds of millions off my name, and his mother bought the gun legally, and then Remington was bankrupted by it and paid $73 million to them. Remember that? It just goes on and on.
Starting point is 01:38:37 And after they sued me, this one foundation's increase went up while they were suing me and during the show trials 375 uh uh percent let me give you the actual numbers uh 337 percent to 119 million just during that period and their main fundraiser was me not to mention all the justice department four plus million they got but here's the here's blaming you when you say the fundraiser was you know they were blaming you for a mass murder that you were horrified by and didn't commit and ignoring the actual mass murderer blaming everyone but the murderer for political reasons so like they're they would just say it's like that meme where indiana jones moves the idol and puts the bag of sand on there they remove lanza and just put me on there and it was he's coming he's harassing us
Starting point is 01:39:23 he made all this money off of us uh he's he's bullying. He's sending the stalkers. He's, he's attacking help, help, help with just ads everywhere. Help, help, help us find Alex Jones. Help, help, help. And, and I'm, and I hadn't talked about him in years and years only talked about one of their names. I never even knew this FBI agent was none of my crew said his name. My lawyer got up and said, have you ever, Alex Jones ever said your name? No. Any of his crew ever said your name? No. Uh, you ever post your picture or talk about,? No. When's the first time you heard of Alex Jones? 2016. And then he goes and does all this, but here's the finale. Here's the finale. This is what I know when you talk to Trump and others, this is important
Starting point is 01:39:57 because this needs to be looked at. This is conspiracy against rights. We're getting ready to take action on this legally. This is a violation of process. This is racketeering. I mean, cut and dry in my view. And that's what my legal experts agree as well. It's cut and dry. Turns out Paul Weiss, the big law firm that lost its intelligence agency clearances because they targeted Trump and they admitted to it. They came to Trump a month ago and they said, give us back 50 plus percent of our business. Let us have our national security clearance. We promise to stop doing lawfare against you and your supporters.
Starting point is 01:40:29 And this is an agreement. And we'll spend $40 million on pro bono work that's nonpolitical. It's in the agreement, okay? And that's, by the way, in our legal actions about to come out. They just filed that $40 million of that $20 is their suit of me.
Starting point is 01:40:43 And they list the lawyers. That's their pro bono work? And they list the lawyers. That's their pro bono work. And they've been coordinating the entire bankruptcy assault. They came up with the fake auction on record. That's come out in our depositions of them. We're suing them currently, but more is coming. They came up with the plan with the U.S. trustees multiple times to have fake auctions. And the judge said it was a fake auction. They're the ones that sent armed security in on Friday evening. I was leaving at like seven o'clock and there's all these guys showing up
Starting point is 01:41:07 from the security company we'd already used for eight years, but all these guys never seen. They're like, hey man, we're told they're closing the doors. They're kicking you out for good to die at nine. We shouldn't have told you this, but I knew one of the guys.
Starting point is 01:41:18 But now it's under the court. And then I get on that phone with the head of the security company and he goes, listen, man, he goes, I got this lady saying, I'm a just department official, Melissa Hazleton and her lawyer. Freeman, Melissa Hazleton and Liz Freeman. And they're telling me we are just department officials. You must close it.
Starting point is 01:41:39 He said, no, I want a court order. So then I had to sleep up there because they tried to hire another security company the next day. And I knew it. And I going to steal your office from you listen when they did the fake auction the next day they came and turned the internet off because they knew I was going to appeal it and the judge shut that down too and I was out of there for a few days so there was such an outcry the judge ordered to let us back in the building we've been run we've been kicked out repeatedly once i wouldn't leave your own building of our own building so so but paul weiss has has been running this whole thing with koskoff and koskoff it's basically a total deep state operation uh with senator blumenthal and his son okay so this is on record and and but but but so so so here they are telling trump oh yes we'll stop doing lawfare
Starting point is 01:42:28 against you and your people and then now they're billing that in the basic fine they agreed to with trump you know that's what it is unofficial fine they are telling trump we're going to stop our attacks on your supporters and you and now they think trump you know they know he's busy that he won't learn that they've done this. So in my view, they need serious sanctions from the White House. If this isn't about me, I'm tough. This is about this saga. Everything I've told you is even worse than I'm telling you. The insanity of what they've done and the persecution would take days because they had four court ordered that my company had to pay for. And then if the
Starting point is 01:43:06 money didn't come in, we wouldn't make it through those investigations. I'd tell listeners, hey, buy our products. We've got to pay to be investigated. Four different investigations, forensic accountants looking for dirt. They had the IRS audit me for a year. We got a $4.3 million tax return back. The IRS says we never do this. It went into the bankruptcy because I'd overpaid $4.3 million in five years because I tell my CPAs pay overpay I know because I don't want to target so so there are three years of investigation I got a 4.3 million dollar check back and none of it was true and then even the New York Times last year had to say well it turns out Jones had meager resources and never really had anything well it was all lies so it was all lies I did anything to him.
Starting point is 01:43:46 It was all lies I made money off of. It was all lies I had all this money. And the point is, is now to last night, the Connecticut Supreme Court said, we're not even going to hear your appeal. And which is ironclad, abusive process, all the rest of it. Texas, the judge violated three laws cut and dry um
Starting point is 01:44:07 i mean the cap is at five million dollars she said i don't care about the texas cap i'm doing 45 with change was 49 they just don't care and it's the same in all of this lawfare uh just like a judge found you never did anything you never broke any. They would have indicted you. Like, this is all so hallucinogenic. It's so crazy. Well, imagine it's like I'm their chew toy, and they just chew on me. But your crime, look, I just want to refer you to the very first moments of this conversation when I pointed out once again for the hundredth time, you called 9-11 in detail before 9-11. So that is like, just from my perspective as an outsider and someone
Starting point is 01:44:46 knows you that's like the defining fact of your life that's the first sentence of your obituary no one did that only you that fact i think is responsible for everything that has come after well just exactly but just think of the scandal on record kyle seraphim and he showed me the conversations with high-level fbi they're saying it. He's going to come back on the show, I think, tomorrow or Friday. Famous whistleblower. He read the documents, and we got a lot from it, but he explained, I mean, this is like terrorist designation. This is espionage. So I've had a full espionage, counter-ionage operation against me trying to find something for 10 years.
Starting point is 01:45:25 So where's the DOJ? Where's I mean, this is a test for the new Department of Justice, you know, brought in on the explicit promise to end the corruption. Stop using our justice system, which my ancestors helped build and yours, too, as a political army mobilized against domestic political opponents. That's not allowed. That's like Haiti stuff. We don't do that. that's not allowed that's like haiti stuff we don't do that it's not a tantan makud it's the fbi they promised to do that so can they help you are they helping you well i'll say this trump cut and dry had the same stuff done to him he's the only person on a wider scale that has had this and you'll hear him say it's
Starting point is 01:46:04 unbelievable it would take a long time it's had this and you'll hear him say it's unbelievable it would take a long time it's unbelievable i've studied the cases of you it's it's the same kind of crap a judge in new york finds him guilty doesn't give him a jury trial i mean it goes on and on so what they've done to me they want to do to you but if you want that string that pulls the whole sweater apart they think because the demonization what they said i did to kids i didn't do that the republicans will be scared to ever defend me that's for sure uh when in truth it's like the Mendez brothers when people found out what they went through they learned that they'd all been lying to about that well this is like that this is like what the story you've heard folks from start to finish isn't that
Starting point is 01:46:37 they saw I was famous they saw I was big they tied me to Trump try to hurt him then they raised hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars off of me, got Justice Department money, had show trials, put out all this stuff I didn't do on record. And then now are not just trying to kill the Second Amendment using these poor dead children who, God rest their souls, but the First Amendment as well. So this is outrageous. And it's a bellwether showing that Paul Weiss, that big Democrat law firm, one of the top ones, would literally tell Trump, OK, we'll stop doing political persecution. We admit to it. They confessed to lawfare against him and his supporters, his family. And then they're still doing it to me. And they're billing the money they said that he'd pay in me.
Starting point is 01:47:23 So it's a sick joke. They think Trump won't learn about this. And at the end of the day, I just want it to stop. And look, we've survived so much. People say, oh, they were going to shut you down here. They were shutting you down there. It's in the news they kicked us out of the building in November. It's in the news they kicked us out in,
Starting point is 01:47:41 or tried to kick us out in May of last year. There was a bunch of other stuff that happened my big deal is i'm not going to give up because they've said we want to get the name m4s we want to confuse it and have chupacabras and bigfoot and we're going to act like we're alex jones they claim they own my ex-account musk had to sue get involved and have them back off of that the democrats in their filing in bankruptcy six months ago said that the amendment against slavery, what is it, 13th or 14th, 13th, doesn't apply to me. You can read it in Bloomberg from the filing. They said he is a special type of person. And so just
Starting point is 01:48:17 like Prince signed away his rights to a record company for his name and his music, I never signed away my rights. So they're saying they own the name Alex Jones in the court filing. They say they know the name real Alex Jones. They're saying they own all my catalog of material, even though it's always been free to air and it's my political views and it's open. They can't do that. I can write a book and publish it the world and say it's free. Somebody can't sue me and get a bankruptcy letter and say they own a book I gave away copyright free. My show is owned by the world, but what is it they don't want? It's because my older shows going back 30 years are ultra green. They're not evergreen where they stay the test of time, they get more important. And so the system knows that those
Starting point is 01:48:57 clips are getting hundreds of millions of views, some of them, where I lay out and predict hundreds of subjects and what's going to happen. And then I explain, though— So that intellectual property is at stake. They are preposterously—this is new law. They think off of demonized Alex Jones. They say this. They can set a precedent to not just censor you, not just take Tucker Carlson off the air. And they said you're the next target, literally.
Starting point is 01:49:21 I'm saying the clips we didn't see them on CNNnn msmc that they will then take your identity which under the prohibition of slavery and under the prohibition against slavery in the texas constitution all the others you can't take someone's name you can't even take someone's tools under state law in texas uh and but no they are saying that they own the name a Jones. And they own your archive of content. Yes, and they say that they want to twist it and make fun of it. They had the onion owner with the Everytown Bloomberg representative on this. They bet Bloomberg paid for it. The new onion owner is just an intel cutout, I mean.
Starting point is 01:49:56 Absolutely. From MSNBC. I'm very aware, yes. The censorship operator. That was his job. Yeah, and who has literally no sense of humor at all. He's the most humorless drone working on behalf of entrenched power like in the United States and he's running the comedy site.
Starting point is 01:50:09 It's like the Babylon Bee. It's also fake. And he's the MSNBC version of Brian Stelter. Oh, I'm aware. I'm aware. I know you're the, exactly. So what I'm saying is it's a constellation of operatives,
Starting point is 01:50:20 corporate, media, government, Justice Department, the trustees, all of them, and they just like an army believe they're still going to beat America. Oh, I know. And they see me as a populist, firebrand, folk hero. And they've said that themselves. And they want to silence and destroy that person so they can then take the identity
Starting point is 01:50:38 of that and turn me into Satan. So meanwhile, Adam Lance is the guy who murdered all those children is totally forgotten. Yeah. And I almost apologize. I don't really talk about this a lot of my own show. It's just come to a head today. And I'm very honored you let me run on and on. But I mean, folks, this is your country, your world.
Starting point is 01:50:54 This was done. What I've told you is 10% of it. Okay. I mean, this is an incredible scandal. The law firm that confessed to Trump to try to destroy him illegally with lawfare. It said, don't worry, sir, we'll do $40 million of good work, nonpolitical. Half of that in a filing last week is me. They have gone and filed that half of our $40 million is what we've done to Alex Jones. I mean, come on. I mean, look, I don't care what happens to me. I just hope Trump takes away their
Starting point is 01:51:23 national security clearance because they're not going to stop what they're doing and those other law firms know exactly who they are i agree and you'd love to talk to the person who negotiated that deal and see if he's aware of it oh i wonder who that is in the white house yeah maybe they should be looked at a little bit yeah so uh wonder what they got yep uh you know i don't know i'm just speculating here that's why we need to investigate because because i mean you know this in racketeering laws they passed if the mafia says oh you better hire my cousin and pay me 10 or something might happen to your grocery store and then they burn your grocery store down they start investigating they learn how the criminal networks operate the mob bosses say go burn it down he just says yeah that guy's not paying and and and that's and they all want to mount my head on the wall like you've got you know that
Starting point is 01:52:09 great deer mounted on the wall over there they want alex jones's head on the wall as a symbol to scare everybody else i mean they said that in the courthouses and on the courthouse steps they said send a message to everybody else these patients zero we're going to take him off and destroy him and we're going to scare him off shut up and obey and destroy him and we're going to scare every one of these other americans to keep that i mean literally it's like in bugs life when the head grasshopper says yeah we got all this grain why are we gonna go beat up the ants because one little ant stood up he goes yeah one little grain doesn't hurt but he goes but if they all stand up and he pulls it and it floods them he goes if those little puny ants outnumber
Starting point is 01:52:43 us 101 and if they ever figure that out, it's over for us. That's why we're going back to kill that ant. That's exactly right. That's it. So I'm just the ant in bug's life. You are, but it hasn't worked. And so I want to make a prediction because I just want to be on tape saying this. I'm going to say it again even more clearly this time. And of course, I hope I'm wrong. I pray I'm wrong wrong but i do think a lot of the really crazy bitter ethnic hate that you see on social media is fake it's it's people were saying it don't mean
Starting point is 01:53:12 it um i think it's like you know the klansmen you'd see marching and you're like they're no klansmen like what and of course you find out that it's all it's it's fake and it's designed to convince people that there's like a lot of roiling ethnic hatred that doesn't really exist. And that's a predicate. Patriot front. violence of hate, hate inspired violence, actual hate, like killing people. And I really hope I'm wrong, but I, I feel like this is real. And that event will be used to shut down free speech on social. I 100,
Starting point is 01:53:53 because that is the threat. And they, you saw it with Tik TOK, like, Oh, we need to ban Tik TOK. Just China owns it. Oh,
Starting point is 01:53:58 nothing to do with China. It had everything to do with opinions that the people in charge didn't like being expressed there. And it's like, we're just going to, and the Congress went along with it. But if there's an act of violence and innocents are murdered, and I pray that doesn't happen because I hate that above all, but it has happened. And I feel like it could happen again.
Starting point is 01:54:15 And people say, and a lot of good people will go along with it. Just like they went along with the censorship of you and the destruction of your life because they were told like he's bad he had something to do with murdering children and then people just shut down they're like you know i don't know alex jones is sending with murdering children so whatever they do to alex jones like is fine i can't tell you how many times in front of my family people walk up and they go you killed those kids exactly and i'll always go really i did huh and why am i walking around and then just like well you you know what you did but but what you said is so important the last ingredients is the false flag on a big illegal alien demonstration
Starting point is 01:54:49 or a black church because the democrats keep saying trump's coming to kill the migrants we got to rise up yeah or or something else like that but where innocents are murdered by a crazy person a crazy person or maybe an actual crazy person used or whatever or maybe it just happens organically maybe if you stoke enough ethnic division online, it's clearly bad. I mean, there are people who have, you know, views that are, you know, are mad at other ethnicities. I mean, that's real, okay? But there are also big actors who are not real. They're doing it on purpose.
Starting point is 01:55:18 And we know who they are. Yes, we do know who they are. And for strategic reasons. I don't want to get involved in all that filth, but. But let's just say we've seen the documents separately. A hundred percent. And they're stoking the stuff. And maybe it just organically inspires someone to commit murder, a mass murder.
Starting point is 01:55:36 And again, I just pray as someone who hates all violence to say it again, I pray that's not the case. But let's just say this. The people they're mainly attacking are the ones financing them it's the oldest trick in the book yeah hegelian dialectic and so just be aware of that ladies and gentlemen yeah and i just don't yeah and i think you're what and the only reason i bring that up is because i worry about it every day i do too because that's the next big move free speech is the foundation of a free society without you it's not a free society you're a slave if you can't say what you think you you're a slave. It's really simple. And we don't have slavery in this country.
Starting point is 01:56:06 It's a free country. And when it happens, I pray it doesn't. That's the next move. So we're predicting this so that there's enough eyes and ears on it and enough people watching so they don't pull it off. Because that's the thing. Everything I used to predict basically came true because the globalists were still in power.
Starting point is 01:56:20 They're so disorganized, have so many problems now. A lot of times when we're able to get out ahead of things you and others and trump and joe rogan we're able and elon's a huge voice you know second only to trump we're able to disrupt what they're doing enough people see through it so if it does happen they try to stampede us into blaming whoever it is oh the crooks guy you know he acted alone well this will be some right-wing trump supporter with the maga hat 100 they'll get killed by the swat team he was inspired by hate online there for you're not allowed to have like legitimate opinions or your own opinions and you know god can decide whether they're legitimate or not but if you're a free man a free person you have a right to say what you really believe period and that cannot be encumbered or else you're a slave absolutely and and you know
Starting point is 01:57:05 you know we get back to the spiritual battle here i i just want people to know that my lawyers just told me when you put you on speaker with them they said i could be shut down within two days two weeks they are coming to shut down info wars we've survived so much like a long boxing match people are like oh yeah right no this is very very real this has been very very serious and so you know for now people can find me on exit real alex jones uh but but that part doesn't matter people understand more and more how things work all of your voices are so important all of you sharing this interview sharing the other great work tucker's doing all the courage he has and others have to really put it on the line you know we haven't even talked about iran
Starting point is 01:57:44 well give me give me your five minute i mean that i should say i think this interview is going up all the courage he has and others have to really put it on the line. You know, we haven't even talked about Iran. Well, give me your five minute. I mean, that I should say, I think this interview is going up tonight. We're going to try to get it up in a few hours. But that's such a dynamic situation. Steve Wyckoff apparently is meeting directly with the Iranians, which I think is such a great, that's a blessing. But, and I hope for the best, but give us your five minute overview. Like, what is that?
Starting point is 01:58:04 And where's that going? Well, Iran's plan B for the best, but give us your five-minute overview. Like, what is that and where is that going? Well, Iran's plan B for the globalists. And Iran's got its issues and its Shiite militias and all that. I'm not lionizing the mullahs. Oh, you're not? But they've been isolated. Israel has knocked out their proxy forces in Lebanon and Gaza and in the West Bank. And Netanyahu is extremely unpopular.
Starting point is 01:58:27 He's been indicted. And he said he doesn't want an investigation in January. He doesn't want an investigation of October 7th until the war is over. But then he never, you know, he's going to have the war be over. So I'm not even against Netanyahu. I'm not against Israel. I know most people in Israel have the war be over so i'm not even against netanyahu i'm not against israel i know most people in israel don't war with iran either but he's been trying to drag us into war since 9 11 that's how long he's been around and in power off and on into this and they have
Starting point is 01:58:55 the most ballistic missiles in the world what it is four to one five to one six to one to even the israeli anti-missile defense system. Israel, as you know, only has three big cities. They will get blown off the map by this. Conventionally, even if Iran doesn't have nukes and uses them in the word as they do, Israel will nuke Iran and then all hell's going to break loose. And in most scenarios, India and Pakistan start nuking each other. Saudi Arabia has got nukes. There's a lot of other countries that have nukes that people don't know about. You don't want even a limited nuclear war because in most big threat assessment war games, and Tucker's an expert on this, he can attest to it. He talks to the experts. It breaks out, you know, kind of like your neighbor, you know, has the black plague. Well, you might get it.
Starting point is 01:59:43 Or, you know, your neighbor, you know, has got syphilis. God forbid you have sex with them. I mean, this is a lot worse than syphilis. This is a lot worse than TB. This is really dangerous. And Iran does have proxy forces in Europe and the United States that, oh, Biden let get in. And they really do have some of these sleeper cells that are here. This does go to full war. They can cause some major problems. And different foreign intelligence agencies are famous for spoofing Iranians and Saudi Arabian terror attacks. They could easily stage a big false flag to get us into a war with Iran. I'm aware, yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:17 And they're also, the Russians have warned, and before they did, I warned, the attacks on nuclear power plants in ukraine and russia try to blame russia ukraine's done that been caught ukraine and nato tried to blame russia for the nordstrom pipeline how laughable is that of course i hear this information has been proven you know that obviously it was the u.s government with nato i mean hell even biden said you know we'll get rid of the pipeline if you invade so the globalists are very reckless again 50 chance the pentagon said they started bombing russia russia nuke. They still rolled the dice. So we need really cool heads here.
Starting point is 02:00:49 This is not like going into Iraq twice. This is not like going into Libya. This is not a cakewalk, even for people that love to buy a bottle of bourbon and sit back and get drunk watching a war like so many sick people do. This is the main threat to civilization and i mean tucker you really have all the connections you travel the world you cover these summits i don't know any i don't know anything other than i think that people in charge of a bunch of different countries are are like reckless on a level that's without precedent in the modern era and i don't think they're serving their own people, by the way, leaders like that.
Starting point is 02:01:25 It's not just like, you know, you've got a bellicose leader who's threatening war or whatever. It doesn't necessarily mean the people he rules are being served. He's putting their lives at risk. Our leaders have put our lives at risk for no good reason. And so, you know, I'm hardly an expert in anything.
Starting point is 02:01:40 I'm just an observer and it's just all so obvious. And I'm really worried about, my last question to you is, you get this sense that there's like don't even acknowledge any of it. And like, what is that? Well, that was the description I was going to use. There's like a mist that settles over all of us and like we can't, it's like no one is even like awake. What is that? Well, that's how I describe it.
Starting point is 02:02:22 It's how you describe it. We're sleepwalking into Armageddon. The Bible calls it a spell. It feels that way's that way medically they would call it a trance and you know since the advent i say that sarcastically of television uh and everybody gathering around it people are way more highly suggestible most people are closer to a near dream state or daydream state pretty much all the time feels that way you go movie, you see everybody kind of drooling. And I've never really had a lot of suspended disbelief. Even when I was a kid, I was always analyzing things. Me too, me too. And so I guess that's a gift, but also it's kind of torture. It'd be fun to just be able to be mindless sometimes. But yeah, and the establishment itself is all about never actually making a decision they get in
Starting point is 02:03:01 trouble for, having committees, having groups, having a kind of a policy where no one can be accountable but then that creates a runaway train scenario uh where then only the most reckless people that are the craziest kind of become the consensus because nobody else wants to challenge them and through trump and elon you know saying hey we don't want war we don't want a meat grinder this is too dangerous this is crazy we want to stabilize civilization we want to have more kids, not less. Every actuary shows we collapse if we don't. Those are conscious. You look at Trump, conscious, awake, sharp. Elon, conscious, aware, sharp. You know, so many others. And then it's a system of kind of quasi-zombies and zombies run by a few kleptocrat psycho demon possessed people that don't want
Starting point is 02:03:48 us waking up the zombies. So that's why they're mad at me. It's why they're mad at Elon. It's why they're mad at you is that we are trying to collectively get people to wake up because the wheel on the ship is so heavy and so big, a few of us can't turn it. But if we get more people politically engaged and aware together, we're able to turn the wheel as we're about to go over this waterfall 5,000 feet and get killed. And so it's people that are dialed in unconscious versus people that are unconscious in the middle versus evil that is driven by a very nihilistic, destructive force. And that's what the transhumanism is about. I mean, I remember 30 years ago reading government white papers that were public, that listeners sent me medical people,
Starting point is 02:04:30 that they had human animal hybrids that could grow in cows for organ harvesting. And that, and of course that's been admitted for 20 years now, but just last week, hundreds of articles, oh, we can grow humanoids for organ harvesting. Don't worry though. They don't have consciousness. We've already raised them at undisclosed laboratories. And then it's in the MIT, you know, reports that they've done it. Or I remember 30 years ago, oh, military bases have goats that are part spider that produce body armor out of their milk, but we don't show them to you. And then later they brought them out and then, oh, uh, oh, we have dire wolves living in an undisclosed location where we spliced 13,000-year-old DNA with a regular wolf. And my point is the future has been here for a while.
Starting point is 02:05:14 It's just not evenly distributed. So you've got this super advanced sectors of technology, literally an underground basis and facilities. And you've got an establishment a very small technocracy that's even aware of those systems yes and they don't want to give the general population access to that so to them they want a nuclear war they think it's survivable in their underground bases and ian fleming former high-level oss and mi6 wrote the j Bond books, became movies. Remember the 80s Moonraker with Roger Moore. And remember there's a crazy billionaire with these other billionaires with an underground base in Brazil
Starting point is 02:05:52 that's going to release a bioweapon on the Earth to kill everybody, but it only goes for a year. He's going to go up to space while everybody dies on Earth at their space station and then come back and repopulate the Earth. And he's a eugenicist,
Starting point is 02:06:06 and they only have the best specimens of the humans to do it. And the movie Zardoz with Sean Connery in the 70s, and Logan's Run, and The Island, and THX 1138. And then you have Aldous Huxley, who wrote Brave New World in 32. His brother, Julian Huxley, was the head of the World Eugenics Society. When that got a bad name for World War II, they changed the World Transhumanist Society. He was the director general of UNESCO, really ran the UN. And his brother, before he died, gave that famous Berkeley speech an hour long.
Starting point is 02:06:39 And I've read his book, Brave New World Revisited. It's nonfiction. Everybody should read it. And he says, no, no, no, no. The world's not gonna be like Orwell with the SWAT teams. That's for the 1% that might resist. The real plan, the reason I could write Brave New World is this was the consensus of the elite in Europe
Starting point is 02:06:55 and England of the world we're gonna build with genetically engineered people, a subspecies that serves us, everyone taking SOMA, everyone's's controlled and he explains that berkeley speech if you don't read the book he gives a synopsis that this is a real plan that he saw being in place by 2020 and so you have to understand brave new world is an instruction manual of what they want to they want to turn humans into a commodity that's why obama calls it the end of history where there are no more cycles, where everything's
Starting point is 02:07:27 controlled, where 90% of the world population is reduced. And maybe if you serve them right or whatever, the 10% is here. But there's these gods on Mount Olympus or these Elysium demigods that are the technocrats that control everything. And everybody is wired into their brains. And the technocrats control the AI. And then they play God like ray kurzweil said i don't believe in god yet i'm going to become one uh you've all know harari i don't believe in god yet but there will be one in the cloud of ai and so i'll just say this the best laid plans of mice and men often go astray as the
Starting point is 02:08:00 you know famous writer said and these people are pridefulful, they're satanic, and it's all going to end in disaster. We have to choose God, we have to choose justice, we have to choose free will, and we have to get out of nature more, and we have to disconnect from the system's lies, and then only go into the system to basically tell the truth, and just know that if you're fighting evil, evil's going to come after you, but that's a blessing, and that it's very rewarding, and the experiences you have in that quest are the greatest experiences of my life, and you find out who's real, you find out who's not real. I just see the arrogance of these lawyers, and it's warfare, it's lawfare, and through the agencies that are running them, and what they've done to me, they want to do to you, like Trump said a thousand times, they're not trying to get me. They got to get through me to
Starting point is 02:08:48 get to you. That is true. And so that's why I do want to see action from the White House. I do want to see the Justice Department take action because my case, because they felt like it's free game on me, that, you know, it's just open season. They've been more transparent. I mean, it's illegal, in my view, to have the Justice Department fund these lawsuits. It's illegal to have the FBI go create these. It's illegal for Obama to list me as a national security terrorist and have a dragnet for decades. And then all of this concerted is the stalking. All of this concerted is the racketeering.
Starting point is 02:09:19 And that's what it is by definition, conspiracy against rights. And then they're just sitting back laughing and going, oh, Trump, 40 million, you know, to help poor people. We won't be political anymore. We're using it for Alex Jones. You know, it's just these people need to be called on this. They operate in darkness. They operate because people are too busy. They operate thinking you're never going to figure out what they're doing. And more and more, they're scared. But I would have thought with all this coming out, they would back off. No, instead, they've gotten scared because the Connecticut Supreme Court and all them were going to hear this. Now they said suddenly they reversed it. No, we're not hearing it now. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:54 Because they think just shut him down, shut him up. It's not going to work. If they shut down InfoWars and I don't throw fights, I'm fighting right to the end. But if they're able to do that and everybody sees that, it's only going to make what I do't throw fights. I'm fighting right to the end. But if they're able to do that and everybody sees that, it's only going to make what I do that much bigger. But again, like when the establishment tried to kill Trump,
Starting point is 02:10:12 that's when the establishment went from collapsing to collapsed. So their order's over. And I like it in closing, the Japanese soldiers, the last one, 27 years later, because the Japanese were losing in the Pacific, as you know,
Starting point is 02:10:32 Tucker, they would dump soldiers out on islands to frustrate and harass the allies coming in, the U.S., England, and the Australians and the New Zealanders that fought the Pacific War. And so the last guy, 27 years later, was still on an island shooting at people and stuff, thinking that, you know, he still had to fight for the emperor until he found out no the war's been over 27 years so the radicalized death cult uh left the jacobins are just running around like chickens with their heads cut off like zombies attack attack attack everyone's a nazi cutting women off in traffic getting out beating up women because they're driving a Tesla, being proud of it. I mean, they have been radicalized into a cult.
Starting point is 02:11:09 And that's what Klaus Schwab said. He said, we're going to collapse Western civilization by creating an angrier world. We've got to not target each other. We've got to target the policies and ideas of the globalists and dismantle the policies and have a big tent to unify behind stopping nuclear war. You know, you just pray you live long enough to affect good in the world, and I definitely pray that for you. Alex Jones, thank you. Thank you, Tucker, so much. You're the best. We want to thank you for watching us on Spotify, a company that we use every day. We know the
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