The Tucker Carlson Show - BONUS EPISODE | The Death of the Dollar | The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode Date: April 9, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, what's up, Tucker listeners? Clay Travis here from the Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Like you, we're huge fans of Tucker Carlson, known him a long time, both personally and professionally. We always talk about how to get more people on Team Sanity, the untapped masses who favor common sense over craziness. Hey, this is Buck. Clay and our friend Tucker are exactly right. We want to rally the forces for good, making sense in an insane world. If that sounds like something you want, too, we encourage you to subscribe to our podcast. It's all about strength in numbers. Tucker's a truth warrior, someone we want in our foxhole.
Starting point is 00:00:33 But we want you in our foxhole, too. The more of us, the less of them. But how do you get them to see the light? You listen to Tucker. You listen to us. Pretty easy, but also fun, because we get into it every day for three hours. Critical thinking never sounded so good. Subscribe to the Clay and Buck podcast on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:00:55 And if you haven't checked us out yet, here's a sample of what you'll hear. Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show podcast. Buck, I wanted to talk about this because we mentioned it yesterday. The Senate has passed a $95.3 billion payment. Your tax dollars going to fund the border and protect the border of Ukraine, Taiwan, and Israel. 22, I believe, is the number Republican senators supported this bill. It's now moving on to the House.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Yesterday I was reading, and I just want to ask you, I want all of you to think about this as a broad idea. We are now $35 trillion roughly in debt when the tea party started and became an issue we were at 10 trillion dollars in debt so we're averaging adding about a trillion dollars a year to our national debt i I saw a report from the Congressional Budget Office. I was reading about it yesterday, Buck, that we are on pace to have a $54 trillion federal deficit a decade from now. And my son is 16 years old.
Starting point is 00:02:21 He's a sophomore in high school. And he's just starting to study economics. And we were having this conversation recently. The dollar is the default currency for the world. What happens if suddenly our foreign adversaries who own trillions of dollars in American debt. What happens, Buck, if one day they just decide they're not going to buy the debt that we are constantly issuing out there? What you're talking about is the death of the dollars, the global reserve currency, and the end of American dominance in all respects, including our quality of life that we have gotten very used to in this country,
Starting point is 00:03:11 where we can be these massive consumers and get deeply indebted. And it doesn't really affect things for us. I mean, part of the problem is, yes, we complain the economy is not as good now as it should be and but you've spent some time in countries i'm sure where you see what real economic deprivation looks like or real economic reversal looks like and it is it is a shocking thing it is a devastating thing to that nation and i i think that unfortunately right now we we don't have a system that will allow this to turn around uh we don't have people who are willing to make decisions today that take the future into account this is a function of math isn't it interesting there are so many people who are much more concerned about climate it, than about the debt these days.
Starting point is 00:04:08 One of them is a real thing that is not a real problem, meaning climate is changing, it is always changing. Yes, of course it changes. There's no real threat to humanity and to us whatsoever. The other thing is a mathematical certainty that the debt burden will become so heavy that it will crowd out other spending, and it will change the lives of the american people in future generations in ways that we would really hate to see and that can of course lead to social unrest civil unrest all kinds of other problems as well but i can sit here and talk about
Starting point is 00:04:37 it and we can talk about where the debt was in the tea party era in 2010 uh versus where it is now i think it was what was it uh 10 trillion yeah we've added 25 trillion in debt since the tea party so you know we we talk about this and look uh you know one way that one way that trump hit ron desantis right away and it was effective was ron wanted to cut entitlements even among republicans this is some real talk even among republicans you want to real talk even among republicans you want to win say you won't touch entitlement spending you say you won't touch the retirement age as long as that continues we're just going to i mean that's for me i don't want to be overly fatalistic about it but maybe maybe that's what i'm being until people feel pain they won't change
Starting point is 00:05:20 and the problem with this is once you start to feel the pain then the change is really too late yeah it's all too late and this is where we are you know think about that i mean trump has said i won't touch your your social security i won't touch your medicare i won't touch uh you know entitlement spending i won't touch a retirement age and that's a republican from outside the establishment and anyone who would run against him in this primary or you know anyone who going forward is running as a republican they know they'll lose if they say they want to touch any of those things and you bring that up down people always say clay i've paid into this my whole life medic social security is fixable and that's doable
Starting point is 00:05:55 you you just make some change you do a little bit of means testing for rich people and you raise a retirement age a couple of years you figure out when you do that you get out the actuarial table it's not the end of the world medicare is a big problem because people say oh i've been paying into it the average person the average person takes out twice in medicare spending what they pay and do over the course of their lifetime and a vast majority of that spending comes in the last six months of life yeah so we have to fix these things somehow but no one you know you say you want to fix it you're a bad person you say you want to change it you know you and i are getting older well you know at some point we're gonna want medicare too i want it to be
Starting point is 00:06:34 there and i want it to be a functioning program for people but i don't know man we sit here we talk about it look at this foreign spending we're doing why are we getting that's why it ties in that's why it ties into any of these countries. And notice, is there anyone who has been more vocally in support of Israel? Well, period, but also since October 7th, then we have been on this show. I don't think so. Yesterday, I tell there's a look. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:06:59 You're talking. Israel is a wealthy country. Why are we giving Israel $16 billion? Why do we give it $3 billion every year? And it's not just Israel. Why are we giving Israel $16 billion? Why do we give it $3 billion every year? And it's not just Israel. Why are we giving $60 billion to Ukraine? Why do we have the foreign aid budget that we have in total? What are we actually getting for this?
Starting point is 00:07:15 I agree completely. And I think it, look, if you want to give to charity, because let's be honest, that's basically what we're doing here, then most of you, if you ran your household, you wouldn't go in debt to donate to charity. In fact, your husband or wife, if you sat down at the table and you said, hey, for part of our budget this year, I want to give $5,000 in charity on the credit card. Every single one of you out there would look at your spouse like they were absolutely insane. If you wouldn't do in your household what the United States government is doing for
Starting point is 00:08:00 our entire household, and Buck, I don't see this as Democrat. I don't see this as Republican. I don't see this as Democrat. I don't see this as Republican. I don't see this as independent. To me, anyone voting to give $100 billion, rounding up from $95 or $96 billion, to foreign countries when we are $35 trillion in debt, I think your analogy with global warming is a really good one. One of the biggest
Starting point is 00:08:28 issues in life, this is me giving you a little bit of a TED talk, is most people fear things which in reality are not threats to them. And you spend a lot of time being fearful of things that are never
Starting point is 00:08:44 going to be an issue in your life. You and I are in our 40s. I've got three kids, 16, 13, and 9. I'm building a beach house. I've said before, I ain't worried about the rising oceans. Maybe it's going to be an issue for my beach house. If so, I was wrong. I'll deal with it. I am insanely worried about the fact that at some point
Starting point is 00:09:06 in my kids lives maybe even some point in my life we're going to be a hundred trillion dollars in debt and if you don't think that our adversaries out there are not planning on bankrupting this country everybody wants to talk about oh there's a new talk about, oh, there's a new threat from Russia. Oh, there's a new threat from China today. The big looming asteroid that is aimed right for America that is in danger of obliterating this country is we're going to have $55 trillion in debt a decade from now, and then just the interest on our national debt
Starting point is 00:09:50 is going to become soon the biggest single expenditure that this country has. There's a long history of this, of fiat currency. You can go back and even look at the usage of paper currency in you know china over a thousand years ago i mean there there's uh when once they start printing it in paper and once the money has no intrinsic value it's not backed by anything what happens inflation happens and inflation we all know what that does, particularly to those who don't hold assets. And then the political, this is the problem we're in right now, the political mechanism to check it, even in a republic like ours, right,
Starting point is 00:10:35 even in a system where the people who are suffering from the inflation, who are suffering from these decisions, are the ones who are supposed to be able to make it right, no one can win and get the power they need to solve the problem who are suffering from these decisions are the ones who are supposed to be able to make it right. No one can win and get the power they need to solve the problem because the person who says, keep eating those treats, they won't make you fat. Keep eating a whole chocolate cake every night. There's no problem with it. That person wins because they're appealing to the immediate and they're appealing to the sense that i get mine i'm not
Starting point is 00:11:05 worried about what comes down the line that is what it is bipartisan in this country it is the truth and you're not even really hearing any you know we're we're hopefully going to elect a president who's obviously far better than joe biden donald trump's not going to touch the debt anyone anyone take bets on that one not going to touch the debt he's going to spend a lot just donald trump spent six trillion dollars last year in office, everybody. I know it was COVID. I know we can't blame Trump for anything. Look, I love the guy.
Starting point is 00:11:33 I'm hoping he's going to be president. But if we're talking about the debt, you know, this is the situation, folks. I don't know. Man, we are a bummer on Valentine's Day. I think it ties in so much with the failure that we have from our elected officials. We are $35 trillion in debt, and they are telling us it's anti-American if we won't take out $100 billion in additional debt and send it to foreign countries to protect their own border while our border is wide open.
Starting point is 00:12:10 And this, to a large extent in the Senate, is bipartisan. And I just look at it and I say, no one would run their family finances like the United States government does. And just think about it. Donating to charity is a fabulous thing to do. If you were donating $5,000 to charity on your credit card that you didn't have and you were going to have to pay interest on that donation,
Starting point is 00:12:35 none of you would do it. And if you had a spouse that suggested it, you would tell them that they're crazy. You certainly wouldn't say it's un-american your your analogy is is actually people are uh are saying hey let's do something really nice for for some other family let's do something really nice for some other family because it's going on someone else's credit card and that's what people don't realize it's actually our credit card it's the credit the faith and credit of the american people and we're all in it together on the dollar it's not
Starting point is 00:13:11 even a partisan thing i i don't want the dollar to collapse for any of us because then it collapses for all of us and also to then argue that if i'm opposed to that i'm in not an american that it's un-American to be opposed to spending $100 billion on somebody else's border? If we had a budget surplus, that's a conversation we could have. We don't have a budget surplus.
Starting point is 00:13:36 In fact, I'm concerned that all of this is going to blow up one day. We're going to try to sell debt, and there ain't going to be a buyer. What happens then? Look out. Look out in a big way.

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