The Tucker Carlson Show - Kid Rock’s Secret to Success, What They Won’t Tell You About Donald Trump, and the Diddy Arrest

Episode Date: September 21, 2024

Tucker Carlson Live Tour in Grand Rapids, MI. Kid Rock: What Donald Trump is really like. Paid partnerships with: Bass Pro Shops: BassPro.com Unplugged: Get $25 off a new phone with code "Tucker" at Unplugged.com/Tucker Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you for having me! I'm really glad to be here, I have to say. Thank you. This is our 10th city. And we're going coast to coast in the month of September on the theory that it's a beautiful country

and if you live here and plan to die here, you should see it. And also on the theory that, you know, everything's censored, but you can't censor a live event. So that has really... But of all the places we've been, and this is totally sincere, I am especially grateful to be in Grand Rapids. I have... I've been coming to Grand Rapids since I was a teenager.

I grew up... I didn't hear what you said, but I think I agree with you. And I grew up in a totally different part of the country, a beautiful part of the country, but a much less wholesome part of the country. And I wound up dating a girl when I was 15, right after I turned 15, whose family was from Grand Rapids. And so I had been coming here consistently for, uh, initially trying to, you know, woo her, uh, make the sale. Um, it's a little harder than it was with girls where I grew up, but worth it. Um, and I continue to think this is just one of the greatest places ever. And that

the women, and I'll just be totally blunt with you since no one's listening, that the women Michigan produces really are at a higher level. I mean that. I mean that. Just the nicest. And the cutest, if I can say. But just the nicest.

And if you're a married man in the state of Michigan, the chances that you've been barked at this morning, very, very low. Very low. The chances that someone's just been really nice to you are incredibly high. And so it's wild that your state is run by the worst women I've ever seen.

And it's weird. It's so weird. I remember telling my son when he was like eight, I was like, you have got to marry a girl from Michigan. You just have to. It just works. It's incredible. Hunting season, I'm going to be hunting for,

of course you are. There's understanding, kind, warm. Ah, the best. And so then I wake up one morning I'm like who is running that state and it really is kind of a metaphor for everything really for the entire country you know if you read about Michigan I mean I come here a lot because of all my wife's family here and all our friends here and one of my favorite people in Michigan is going to be joining us in just a minute. One of the great boosters of Michigan, trust me. I've been to a lot of places with Kid Rock and wherever he is, he is representing the state of Michigan at full volume. Really, they ought to give him a, the tourist bureau ought to give him a commission because he is the most loyal son

the state has ever produced. But anyway, if you read about the state, you're like, wow, that place is really screwed up. And then you come here and you don't meet a single person who is capable of screwing up anything. You don't meet a single, every single person you meet in the state of Michigan

is kind and straightforward and nice and loves his family and musky fishing and like all the good things. Loves walleye, you know, it's like who are all these people who are allowing someone like Gretchen Whitmer

or Dana Nessel like who actually voted for Dana Nessel? I always wonder that. Nobody. There's, like, nobody. It was like Bill de Blasio in New York, the city of eight million people.

You couldn't find a single one who admitted voting for the guy. And he got, you may not even know who that is, but he was a spectacularly stupid mayor that they had. It was really just unbelievable. People like Whitmer, like Whitmer, but without the facelift, but like Whitmer is totally right.

I'll never forget during COVID because I've been, you know, a booster of your state and I can do like, I can point on my hand where things are and I know what the UP is and like I am kind of an adopted son of the state. I've shot a bunch of your birds.

I've caught a ton of your fish. I married one of your girls. Like, I am basically from Michigan. And I remember someone saying to me once, like, the governor of Michigan, Gretchen something, who I think is actually from Grand Rapids area, amazingly, banned the sale of paint in paint stores. I'll never forget this, during COVID. And I was like, that's obviously an urban myth.

That's a legend. That's like they're eating the pets in Springfield, Ohio. That's not really true. That can't be true. They're not're eating the pets in Springfield, Ohio. That's not really true. That can't be true. They're not really eating the pets. Actually, they are. She can't really have banned the sale of paint. Is paint a well-known vector for Chinese viruses?

What? That's crazy. I know Michigan. And what? And seeds. Yeah, no planting flowers during a global pandemic. You knew that. That's just like basic epidemiology. So I remember saying clearly something has been lost in the translation. That's not really real. She didn't really do that because I want to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, obviously. No one's that stupid. And then you wouldn't keep everyone in the state indoors

but let your husband go off to your cottage and go fishing in a boat rental that was closed to everybody else. You wouldn't do that, would you? Because that would really just be like giving the finger to the entire state, to the people who vote for you. And then you look it up and you're like, actually, like the pet eating, totally true. And so then the question arises, well, how did this happen? So we learned two things, okay?

The first thing is the leaders of a place, whether it's a state or a town or a country, do not necessarily reflect the people they lead or who live there at all. In other words, you can have a place that's amazing, that's great on every level. It's incredibly beautiful, as this state genuinely is. You could have like the best people in the entire country and they can be led by like a brain dead robot who bans paint sales in the name of COVID protection. Like that happens. You can't judge a place by its leaders, which itself is a kind of challenge to the idea of a constitutional republic or a democracy.

Because, of course, the core idea is the people rule. It's their country. It's their city. It's their state. It's their neighborhood. It's their nation. And the people who run It's their neighborhood. It's their nation. And the people who run it aren't kings or queens or archdukes. It's not even a military junta. It's just a bunch of ordinary people who are serving at the pleasure of the population. They're the employees. It's like you're a housekeeper, but maybe less talented, but still your employee. And if you catch him stealing or being creepy, you can just can him. Sorry, you work for me. Out of here, honey. You know what I mean? Learn to paint houses.

So how could it be that leaders don't reflect the essential character of a place. That's anti-democratic. I mean, in other words, when you come to Michigan, if the democracy is functioning as intended, you would expect to find millions upon millions of little Gretchen Whitmers. Dumb people with facelifts saying nonsensical things. But that's the opposite of what you find. So what does that tell you?

It tells you the system is not working as intended. Okay. So that's the first thing you learn. And the second thing you learn is that there's a reason for that. And that's that people who are not with the program may be mad, but they're not actually voting. They're not actually voting. Now, why is that? Well, I think I know. And I'm not here to scold anybody. I mean, trust me, there have been many times where I'm like, I know the people running for office a little bit too well to vote for them. You know, or you just feel like, ah, what does it matter? The system's fake. Obviously, you know, in 2020, you never saw a single Joe Biden. Joe Biden didn't even exist, actually. You know, he's like a hologram at this point.

But in 2020, you're like, I never met a single person who's voting for, quote, Joe Biden. And he got like over a billion votes. He got more votes or maybe more than that. I think he got more votes than the population of the earth. And you're like, you look at that. And oh, don't say fake. That's not allowed. don't say fake that's not allowed by the way that's not on wikipedia wikipedia says it was totally on the level therefore it must be to this day if you go on a google product youtube um you're not allowed to question the last election which is usually a sign whenever someone tells you you're not allowed to have an opinion,

it's pretty near proof that that opinion is true. They're not banning lies in this country, trust me. There's no penalty for lying. When was the last time someone got busted for lying? Do you remember? That's no longer a crime. They lie to you from the podium every single day. The Biden administration's illiterate spokesperson,

you can't understand what she's saying, but you can be certain because her lips are moving that all of it is untrue, but she will never be held to account. Tony Fauci still has a Secret Service detail. Do you have? Yeah, boo, yeah. The only people protecting him should be prison guards. I mean, honestly. Yeah, boo, boo is yeah. The only people protecting him should be prison guards. I mean, honestly.

Yeah, boo. Boo is right. So obviously there's no penalty for lying. So if they're telling you, you can't say something, take it to the bank, bet your house what you're saying is true. And that's why they hate it. Because it's a threat to their lives, right? So, I mean, this is all very obvious. You don't need to be a political scientist or a college graduate, you know, which I'm not, to understand the basic dynamics in life, which is honest people are not afraid of different opinions.

They're not afraid of your opinion. The only people who are afraid of talking are people with something to hide. And what they're afraid of is that you might expose them. That's, of course, exactly why they hate Trump. It has nothing to do with his program. Trump's like the least radical person in the world. Trump's like completely moderate, actually.

But that's not what they care about. What they care about is Trump's irrepressible tendency to say things that are not on the script. They don't trust Trump not to tell the truth. You know, you can write a 10,000 word speech for Trump, but you can't be certain that right in the middle of it, he won't be like, and another thing, and then tell the truth about you. So if you're trying to hide

something really, really obvious, like, I don't know, you murdered Jeffrey Epstein or something, as if nobody knows. Really? Epstein didn't kill himself? Are you serious? Right. Everybody already knows that. But the people who did it are really

worried and did a million other things. Oh, it wasn't safe and effective? Seriously? They're worried that Trump will just go off script and tell the truth. They are not worried. They're always like, oh, Trump's such a liar. He's such a liar. He bragged about his crowd size or his hands. It's like, no, no, no. That's not why you hate Trump. If he was a liar, you'd love him. You'd vote for him. No.

You're worried that he will accidentally tell the truth about you. And so, sorry, speaking of getting far afield. And so, you know, you're not allowed to question the 2020 election, but I think, just like you're not allowed to question the COVID vax, what else you know of the question? I can't hear you. I didn't have, I'm not endorsing that. Um, just like you can't question, you know, human caused climate change or whatever you can't question. You can't question for a reason. Boy, this is a, this is a sporty crowd. Go Grand Rapids. I love it. But people don't vote because they look at all of this.

They're like, you know, what's the point? The system is fake. They do think that. I find myself feeling that way at times. Well, of course it's fake, but it doesn't mean your vote doesn't matter. It doesn't mean you couldn't overwhelm them to such a degree they couldn't steal it.

You could, actually. And especially now. Because something wild is happening that nobody is talking about, and I almost never talk about politics because it, well, I don't know that much about it, to be completely honest. Having spent my life around it,

I understand it less than I ever have. I couldn't tell you how many electoral votes your state has, you know, just completely honest. Having spent my life around it, I understand it less than I ever have. I couldn't tell you how many electoral votes your state has, you know, just being honest. 20? 16? Okay, that sounds about right. 16, okay. So there are political experts here.

But here's what I notice. If you get it, one of the reasons I don't get too into the weeds or the facts of electoral politics is sometimes it obscures the bigger picture. And the bigger picture, as far as I'm concerned, just as an observer of it, and as someone who's traveled across the country in the last few weeks, is that there is some kind of weird and huge realignment going on. Massive realignment going on. And it's not your imagination at all. I mean, Kid Rock's coming up on stage.

I mean, the guy... Entertainers didn't used to do stuff like this before crowds like this. Two nights ago, we had Bobby Kennedy on, and I've always liked Bobby Kennedy because he's a sportsman, you know, he's an outdoorsman, he's a hunter and a fisherman, you know, and I like people like that. And that's more important to me. But Bobby Kennedy was always like a liberal partisan Democrat. Actually,

his name is Bobby Kennedy. Bobby Kennedy. And so, you know, I never thought I'd wind up in a place where he had vigorously in a heartfelt way endorsed Donald Trump was promising to work as a part of the Trump administration help with the transition become a cabinet secretary all of which I hope happens and then be greeted by a crowd of people who are probably going to vote for Trump as a hero. What? And what does that tell you? It's not just about Bobby Kennedy, who I think is an extraordinary and an incredibly brave person. It tells you that the categories that we've grown up with and that have been used to describe what's happening in our country are lies. And they're designed to mislead us about the truth. And what they're designed to convey is the idea that the country is much more divided

than it actually is. That's what I notice. If I experience what's happening in America on my phone, which unfortunately I do, I live at the other end of the country in a really rural area and I don't know what's going on in America. So I like look at my stupid phone

and I see an unending litany of sad stories about how much Americans hate each other. You know, on the basis of politics, especially on the basis of race, but gender too many. Women hate each other. Black people, white people hate each other. Democrats, Republicans hate each other.

It's all a bunch of hate. And then you get actually out into the country and I don't know where that's taking place, but nowhere I've been. This is my 10th city. No one has ever come up to me, not one time, and been like, I hate you for your skin color, or you hate me for your skin color, I hate you for your,

no one ever says anything like that. Everybody's really nice. I don't know where all the hateful people are. I mean, I do know they exist. I guess they're all in the Biden administration. But they don't seem to be wandering around the strip malls of America or the coffee shops or the coffee shops or

the hotel lobbies or all the places I've been. I never meet them at the airport. Occasionally, if I go skiing in Jackson, Wyoming, and there are a lot of rich ladies waiting in the lift line, if you're at the main G-moose, no, that main G-moose is fine. But if you go into the Four Seasons for the Elk Chili, there's always some like angry woman with a facelift, like mad at you. Racist. All right. So there's like one hundredth of the population who are super, super unhappy, possibly having an affair with the yoga instructor, who are married to finance guys who are really, really angry. Not possibly, certainly. And they're really angry, but I don't see that anywhere else ever. And so then you think, well, wait a second. If the experience that I have wandering around the country I was born in bears no resemblance to what I'm told, then maybe that's not the only

lie they're telling me. And maybe most people do not hate each other, despite the best efforts of the people running the country to make them hate each other for like 60 years. All of American history taught from elementary school through postgraduate is designed to make you think that Americans hate each other on the basis of race. That's the whole point of it. It is. I'm not going to use the naughty word you just used, but I endorse it completely. It was a synonym for false. And that's exactly what it is. It's false. That is not true. But you think about it for a second. It's like, why would they be telling you that? And then you think about the sort of person who would want a population to hate each other. And that's like the darkest thing

you could ever want for people. And if you're a parent, you know that. If you're a parent, the most important thing to you is that your children love each other. That's the most important thing. Because they're your children. You're in charge of them. And when you die, all you leave behind,

all that remains of your family, all that exists of your life is the love between your children. That's where your memory lives, is in the love that they have for each other. That's the most important thing. It's the most natural thing. You don't need to have read a parenting book or be Dr. Spock to want something like that. You just have to be a normal human being with a normal love for people. And that's true, by the way, for leaders of all organizations, from the family, the smallest and most important, to the workplace, to the military unit,

to the state, to the country. Leaders, decent leaders, normal leaders, want the people they lead to love each other. Only a sick and evil leader would intentionally sow hatred between the people he leads. Period. That's not political. That's not wrong. That is evil. That's the definition of evil. Inspiring people to hate each other is the definition of evil. There is no clearer sign. And by the way, that's so unnatural that it's supernatural.

That's exactly what that is. You are acting on behalf of unnatural forces if you are convincing the people you lead to hate each other. And that's exactly what your governor, and particularly your Attorney General Dana Nessel, are doing in this state. And that's what the Biden administration is doing. It's what all of our leaders are doing and have been for a long time.

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And so that tells you just once again that the country itself, which means its people and its dogs. Dogs are a reflection of the people and we have the best dogs heck yes we have we have the best dogs in the world we do we do and dogs do take on the characters of their owners that's true but the people of this country are loving good people who are being led by the worst people who've ever led a country. And that is just true. I think that's true. I mean it. My loathing, my love of Americans and my loathing of their leaders deepens every day that we're on the road. It really, really does because the disconnect. So what can you do about it? Well, you can vote. I don't think I've ever

encouraged anyone to vote ever, but I feel like in this state, it's particularly important. I'm not a political person. I'm not here on behalf of a candidate. Probably guess who I'm voting for. I actually am voting this year. I am, I am. But I do think people should vote in the state of Michigan because there's absolutely no reason you should be led by people who do not share the most basic values of the people of Michigan. And I mean from, I always beat up on the East Coast of Michigan. My wife is actually from the Detroit area. I know, boo. Oh, I agree. I know. I know. I know. And whenever I talk about Michigan, I'm like, there are actually two sides to it.

And the West Coast is way nicer. But the truth is, there are super nice people over there too. And Northern Michigan is just like a wonder. It's incredible. And none of you deserve, none of you deserve your leaders. None of you. I don't care. It's true. Even the people who vote for them don't deserve them, if I can just say. You often hear, we get the leaders we deserve. That's a total lie who vote for them don't deserve them, if I can just say. You often hear, we get the leaders we deserve. That's a total lie. No, you don't. No, you don't. And you see that around the world. I've been to plenty of countries with horrible leaders. Those people don't deserve them. Nobody deserves leaders like that. And so I did hear of something really cool today. I've never done anything like this, but I'm going to do it now. There's actually a website in the state of Michigan where you can find people who probably would vote for the candidate you're

voting for, but don't vote. And you can look them up. The voter rolls are right there. It's called 10X Votes. And you can go on there and just contact people you know and be like, hey, by the way, we don't deserve this. These people are horrible. And we're not horrible. We're great. And if you're frustrated with these people, even if you don't think the system works, even if you think it's all fake, even if you think they're going to steal it in the end, that's not exactly true.

You can overwhelm their malintent by your voting. And at the very least, you can give them the largest middle finger ever wagged in the face of anybody by voting against them. I do think it's important. Yeah, that finger, the one you just waved. That's right.

I'm not going to do that because it's wrong. But I do love that gesture because it's just, I don't trust, I'm in the word business and I don't really trust words anymore. I'm not going to do that. Kid Rock's about to be here. He literally has that painted on the tail of his plane. And I'll let him explain who that's aimed at. No, I can't. If my, if my Michigan born wife saw me hoisting the middle finger in front of some of her relatives who are in this room tonight,

she would look at me with a pained face in that squeaky and adorable and honestly kind of sexy Michigan accent and say to me, that's not very nice. My wife always says to me in her Michigan accent, you don't hate anybody. I don't want to admit

that actually I kind of do, but anyway, so before I bring Kid Rock out, I would just, I have, we've actually thought about even moving here over the years, because that's how much I love it. And maybe we will.

I mean, who knows what's going to happen. But if I lived here, I would just, I would, yeah, right? Can you imagine me being governor of Michigan? That would be... That would be a hard job. It would be so great, though. I'm telling you,

we would have walleye day if I... But the two things I would keep in mind if I lived here, the two things I would keep in mind is that actually the people of your state are great. Your state is great. Your state is beautiful. I would not let them tell you otherwise. And even Detroit's a little better than they say.

I just had dinner there. It is. It is. It is. It is. I've been to a lot of crappy places around the world. And everyone's like, oh, Detroit. You know, the Renssen and the Giant Fist and all this stuff. It's like, it's actually kind of a cool city. I'm just being honest.

This is a cool state. It really, It really is. From the top to the bottom. It is a cool state. And by the way, when Chicago burned, everyone's like, oh, Chicago's so cool. Where did all the wood come from to rebuild Chicago? Does anyone know?

It came from Michigan. And what does that tell you? It tells you that everybody wants a piece of Michigan. Okay, that's the first thing it tells you. The second thing it tells you is have a little self-respect. Okay, if Illinois comes knocking and it's like, we want all your stuff, say you took it once, never again. We're Michigan, okay?

Okay. But just remember that what you have is awesome. It is just awesome. It's people in the landscape. It's awesome. And it is, you know, I can understand why people leave. I'm in Florida a lot and you meet an awful lot of people from Michigan. I know. And they're like, oh yeah, we moved to Florida. We couldn't deal with it. And you're like, I get it. I get it. But I don't know. Stay and fight. I guess that's what I would say. It's worth it. Okay? That's the first thing I would remember. And the second thing I would remember

is that you're not crazy. You're not crazy. They spend all their time trying to convince you it's such a psy-op. You're crazy. I'm crazy? Have you ever seen Dana Nessel? That?

Talk about crazy eyes. By the way, if you have time, like when you get home tonight, you got your iPhone. If you don't know who Dana Nessel is, I mean, you should, because she has a big effect on your state. Type in her face into Google Images

and just like expand it and look at her eyes. Whoa. If you've ever trapped a raccoon in the garage with a broom. No, I'm serious. And like you go through life like, oh, raccoons are so cute. And their little hands, they kind of have opposable thumbs. And their little like robber mask eyes. And they're so cute.

You ever catch one in the garage eating dog food at night? Whoa. You realize this is a vicious animal. It's bite your face off, right? And you know from their eyes, and Dana Nessel has those eyes. So for Dana Nessel to be calling you crazy, are you joking?

Uh, no. You're not the crazy ones. And that is the beauty of an event like this, is you get to be in a room and you can feel it. Even if you don't talk to anybody, you can feel the vibe. I can feel it. Backstage, one of the people I traveled with from Maine said to me, oh, do you feel the vibe out there? We're good people. You can literally feel it. And

what that tells you is that the things that you want, like decent schools and roads without holes in them and the ability to walk to the grocery store without getting mugged and like an inflation rate that's under 12% and maybe a little cottage you share with your cousins up north, like just sort of normal things. Maybe a little continuity. Maybe the right to live in a state that's not completely different from the state you grew up in. That's a right, actually. They're always inventing rights.

You have a right to this. You have a right to that, which usually means you're getting nothing, okay? Yeah. Oh, I'm aware, baby. And I'm aware. And again, you use profanity, but I'm with you, okay? But there is a right that every person has,

which is to be a little bit insulated from like having their state invaded and changed overnight, actually. Sorry, it's just true. Like you shouldn't wake up in a place where you were born and not recognized. Everything's totally different. All the attitudes are different. The people are different. The economy is totally different.

That's like an act of violence against you, actually. That's not the promise of America. The promise of America is that things get a little better. Not maybe radically better, but your kids have a shot at a little better life than you had. That's the American dream. The American dream is not that you wake up and like, you don't even recognize this place. And you know, for a fact that your kids are not going to be going to the little cottage they share with their cousins up North. They're not gonna be able to afford a house. That's the opposite of the American dream. So I guess what I'm saying is what you want is totally sensible and moderate and reasonable and human and basic. It's not crazy. It's not asking for like a fleet of helicopters or free ice cream. They're the free ice cream party.

You just kind of want to go to the grocery store without getting mugged or going broke. And they tell you that you're insane because you're against, like, I don't know, castrating children. That's not insane. They're insane. So just look around. Remember that.

Take heart. You are not the freak. Dana Nessel's the freak. With sharp teeth and raccoon eyes. Gretchen Whitmer is the freak with the facelift and the paint sales bans. You're a freak, dude. If you had a cousin like that growing up and she came over to Thanksgiving, people would talk very quietly around her. Because who knows, once she has a fork in her hand, who knows what she'll do with it. Everybody has a relative like that.

How did yours become governor? I don't know. But don't let her convince you that she's the normal one. She's not. Well, sorry. And so with that, let me introduce somebody who needs

no introduction whatsoever. The only thing I will add to this, I called him the most faithful, loyal son of the state of Michigan, and he is. I will also just add one humble brag by saying he's also my friend. Ladies and gentlemen, Kid Rock. Oh, yeah. So, dude. I'm in the dressing room. You mind if I start this off?

Oh, dude. It's all yours. Literally, this is how twisted I am. I'm in the dressing room. You mind if I start this off? Oh, dude, it's all yours. Literally, this is how twisted I am. I'm in the dressing room. And it's very nice. Get some cold beer in there. Ash tray, a little meat and cheese tray, and snack tray. And so, you know, I'm looking at the snack tray. I'm like, yeah, you got Doritos, Fritos, M&M's and stuff.

And I go, fucking Twinkie. Right? From the 80s, yeah. Well, so I asked one of my friend, Corey, I'm like, dude, when's the last time you had a Twinkie? He's like, man, I don't remember. And I'm like, I remember my mom used to like put them in our lunch in elementary school, like on a special occasion. I go, when's the last time you had a Twinkie? It's been a long time? I had one in 1987. It was my last Twinkie. First time I had a Winston cigarette. So I thought about it again. I'm like, I can't remember when the last time I had a Twinkie and no one else can either. I was like,

they should rename these things blowjobs. I didn't hear what you said. I'm working clean tonight. Seriously, are there children here? I don't want to be using curse words of just children here. So, you're a busy man, and this is... Only my sister-in-law calls me Tuck. That's hilarious.

She's from Michigan, actually. So great. What do you think is going on with this election right now? I think Trump's going to kick their ass, honestly. I don't, it reminds me of 2016. I mean, I literally went to bed like a lot of people that night, you know, pulling for Trump on his team, you know, being very vocal. I was like, I'm going to bed and without a lot of faith.

I mean, all the polls told you this. They had you convinced. If you looked at any television, like, there's no way. He was a joke since he came down the elevator, you know, and so were a lot of us that supported him since he came down that elevator and still been getting shit till this day, which is fine. I kind of like it. But it reminded me of that, And then woke up the next morning,

like Trump won. I'm like, what? I, you know, and I, it, it just has the same feeling to me. I'm not a vibey person, but, uh, it just has that feeling to me what's going on. I mean, I don't know how you can look at this. I mean, you said Oprah thing yesterday. I did, but I would, for those, I don't know how many faithful Oprah watchers we have in this room, but tell us about it. I think everybody's,

I don't know, at least, I didn't watch it, but I caught wind of it, you know, on the morning news and stuff. It was a joke. It was a complete joke. Well, in the interview that you're referring to, Kamala Harris, the big fact of the debate from my perspective was the fact that Kamala Harris owns a gun.

Yeah, but nobody has. What? Why is she allowed to have a gun? But nobody that she's done her little interviews with or anything says, what kind of gun do you own? Yeah, exactly. You know, just start there.

Is it a Red Ryder BB gun? Do you have a shotgun? You know, what size caliber bullet do you shoot? You know, do you practice with your arm pieces for self-defense at home? She just says, I have a gun. And everyone goes, oh, my God, she's so middle. She's so in the middle. And then you got this ass. I'd like to watch her clean it. And then while we're at it, then you got this ass clown, Tim have a gun, and everyone goes, oh, my God, she's so middle. She's so in the middle. And then you got this ass.

I'd like to watch her clean it. And then while we're at it, then you got this ass clown, Tim Walsh, right? Oh, my God. I'll get him. I'll get him. Don't mess with a songwriter or a comedian. So I'm listening to this guy, and he reminds me of like, I think of a few junior high and high school teachers that I absolutely hated, right? Mr. Self-righteous.

Hey guys, you're going to do it this way. You know, blah, blah, blah. I'm right. I'm right. You know, I coach football, this, that, and the other. And then he's, you know, um, you know, wearing a camo hat. Like I'm, I'm the best shot. I like to hunt. I'm a hunter. I'm like, yeah, what do you hunt? Cocks and dicks? I don't know why, and I don't want to be unfair or whatever, but every time I see him talk, I think of that scene from Airplane where the pilot's like, ever seen a grown man naked, Johnny?

I'll tell you this much, that Tim Walz has seen one up close, if you know what I mean. I can't confirm or deny. I told Trump, actually, you know, we more have fun together. I'm not the big policy guy. I'm happy to give my opinion if asked or whatever, but, you know, I'm not a political scientist.

I'm an average person when it comes in regards like that, like most people, but, you know, we're always looking for a... I like the a political scientist. I'm an average person when it comes in regards like that, like most people. But we're always looking for a... I like the fun name game, this, that, and the other. And I was like, got something for Tim Walsh yet? I was like, how about Tampon Timmy? And I think even Trump said, that might be a little too far.

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identityguard.com slash tucker so um you are like often photographed with Trump. I just happen to know for a fact, and I don't know if it's widely known, that you're legitimately close to him. You know Trump very well, and have known him for a long time. And I've heard you describe what he's like.

Would you mind? He's the greatest. He's... Well, just... You know, you don't hear a lot of people talk about him as a friend. Of course, you know, when I really a lot of people talk about him as a friend of course you know when I really got to know him he was president that was very enamoring

very nerve wracking like it would be in any situation at first and I mean after you know our first you know I had dinner with him in the White House and that was great and then you know our first time golfing it's like it's when he's a president it's it's a shit show you know it's you know you're trying to tee off you're like president, it's a shit show. You're trying to tee off.

You're like, Jesus Christ. It's just, you can imagine everything going everywhere. And I swear by the second hole, it's like, this guy's one of my oldest friends. He's just like, my dad's out there with us, God bless him. And he's like, don't smoke or drink around the president. He's like, don't light up that cigar and don't drink drink around the president. He's like, don't light up that cigar and don't drink beer around the president. And like third home, like,

Mr. President, you mind if I smoke a cigar? He's like, no, I can't smoke a cigar. I'm like, any cold beer on this course? He's like, you want some beer? I got Hershey bars. Keeps these huge Hershey bars. He's just such a down-to-earth, fun guy. And I've seen him with his grandkids, with his children.

A lot of people, like before, we go to golf sometimes. He's like, hey, guys, I got to push back a few minutes. I'm going to go hit some balls with my granddaughter or something like that. A lot of people don't see that. I mean, I was just in Detroit, introducing him for a National Guard event, right? And I took my mom with me.

And it was really great. My mom, all these years, I never got to meet him. It was my dad that always went with me and my brother and all that. But so I took my dear, sweet mother. She loved it. It was great. But right before I'm getting ready to go introduce him,

he's got an orange soda, like a Fanta, right? You know, and someone's introducing me. He's like, you want a sip? I'm kind of like, and I really didn't. And I'm like, no, sir. He's like, remember when people used to drink out of the same bottle? Just normal shit. He's not a weirdo.

They make him out to be some crazed freak in the press. And they've done that to us all. They've done that to you. They've tried to do it to me. I'd rather like it myself. Go for it. But he's just a terrific human being, man. He's so much fun

to be around. So much fun to be around. I think if there's one thing I'd say about Trump that I don't think he gets credit for and really deserves credit for, I think he's one of the funniest people I've ever met in my entire life. Hands down. Hands down. Funny. I wonder if I should tell this story. I think he's one of the funniest people I've ever met in my entire life. Hands down. Hands down.

Funny. I wonder if I should tell this story. I think you should. Ah. Oh, it's so good. I hate to speak out of school. You know what I mean? No, you're in school. We're in Michigan. Ah, fuck it.

It's fun. All right. So, well, the first times when the White House was having dinner was Sarah Palin. Trump invited Sarah. This was very early when he had just gotten into the White House. And Trump said, invite some interesting people. So she called me and Ted Nugent, right?

Pretty interesting. Dinner party. So we go in the Oval Office to meet him, and he's just wide open, like, kid, like, blah, blah, blah. We sat in the other, and then we conversate, take some pictures, like, anybody want to wash their hands? I'm like, I do. Kind of a germ freak. So we go in this little room and then we conversate, take some pictures. Like, anybody want to wash their hands? I'm like, I do. Kind of a germ freak.

So we go in this little room, and we're like, we're a little like sharing a bar of soap. And I'm like, man, this is weird. Weirdly awesome, right? And then he goes, Rock, come here. We walk down to this other room left to the Oval Office. We're standing there, some's some papers and like Fox News and a picture of George Washington. He goes,

you know what this room is? I'm like, no sir. He's like, this is the Monica Lewinsky room. And I'm like, and I'm, literally I felt like I was in Step Brothers.

I'm like, did we just become best friends? And so I yell down the hallway through the Oval Office. I'm like, did we just become best friends? And so I yell down the hallway through the Oval Office. I'm like, Audrey, Sarah, Ted, come here. Come here. They come down to get in the room and I'm like, do you guys know what room this is?

And they're like, no. And I'm like, sir? And he's like, it's the Monica Lewinsky room I'm like yes that's just fun that is so I mean and I've been fortunate enough to be in the White House

a lot of times through the Kennedy Center Honors when you go there and do things you get to come to the White House and been invited for different things here and there and pretty much got to be around every living president at some level like actually spend a little time with them and that first time we're in there having dinner he's like have you ever seen uh have you ever seen upstairs private residence i'm like no he's like do you want to? I'm like, yeah. And his knowledge of American history, every painting in there, he's like, this is Andrew Jackson.

He did this, this, this, and this. It was like a history lesson. The doctors were great. He walks by the doctors. He goes, doctors are great. He's like, hey, guys, if I drop off a heart attack, could you bring me back? They're like, yes, sir. He's like, they're the best. They're the best. We're just having fun. I'm drinking a beer. We're going through. We go upstairs. He's like, there's a Gettysburg Address. I'm like, holy shit. My ass. Lincoln bed. We're

in the Lincoln. Here's the Queens bedroom. I'm just like, oh my gosh, this is mind blowing. But that's, you know, just how down to earth he is. You know, I guess I don't think I'm anybody more special of any other friend than he has. Just that type of guy. And the one thing he said about that when he's showing us around, I go, I can't believe you're showing us all this. He goes, this is the people's house. This is your house.

Man, that says it all right there. That says it all. And there's been a million other instances that I probably can't recall right now. And rock and roll has not been too kind to my memory. I think you're doing pretty well, considering the road miles. So why do you think a certain sort of person

hates him so much? I can't understand that. Because it's a level of hatred. I've only gotten it one time. And it was a kid that was drunk. I had a MAGA hat on somewhere. Actually, you were involved. Now that I think of it.

Naturally. The kid comes up at this restaurant we have in Nashville. And he's like... And he's kind of standing there. And I'm like, there's some politicians in there. He looked like like, and he's kind of standing there and I'm like, there's some politicians in there. He looked like he might have been a military kid.

People come up and say hello. Life's turned into a picture, as you know. This, that, and the other. And I'm kind of looking. He's like, fuck Tucker Carlson. Fuck your Trump hat.

I'm like, all right. I'm like, okay. Well, you done yet? Yeah, that's like literally one of the only times,

but why people hate him so much. I don't know. I guess they hate winners, jealousy, envy. I can't figure it out. I've talked to my Democratic friends. I have a lot of liberal friends, obviously, in the business I'm in. It's kind of what it is. And I can be friends with anybody. They can think differently than me. That's fine. And I'm happy to give them my side, and they can give me theirs, and we can crack a beer, and it's all good. It's no problem.

But they're like, he lies. He does this. He does that. And I'm like, what channel are you watching? Because honestly, it's different on Fox News. I watch them all. I watch Bill Maher. I've been on Bill Maher's show.

I watch CNN. I watch Fox News. I'm a little bit of I've been on Bill Maher's show. I watch CNN. I watch Fox News. I'm a little bit of a news whore. Not sure how healthy it is. You'll watch anybody. You just like to watch. Honestly, I don't know what you're saying. Sorry.

I'm not calling you a pediatrist. Just kidding. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Sorry. Working blue for a minute.

Well, that's crazy. A thousand bottles of lube? That's a lot. That's a lot. It's ambitious. But I did think of that. And I'm like, I always try, believe it or not, to try to find the positive in anything. You know, I at least search for it before I turn into Negative Nancy.

And I'm like, you know, sometimes Costco just has a good sale. You can't pass it off. You got to get the pallet. Yep, I got it. I did that with Styrofoam cups one year. They're still in the garage. A little different. So you are in this business.

You've been in this business, entertainment, music, among artists your entire life. And I bet there are some who agree with you, but there are very, very few who've been as honest about having the views that you have. Was that a tough decision? I mean, it's got to be a decision. You're in a business. Why did you make that decision? I mean, part of it was, you know, I got older and wiser, but to be honest, like I had the money in

the bank. And at the end of the day, I, when I really thought about it, I said, you know, I kind of said, you know, and it wasn't really a conscious thing. I just started kind of doing it, you know, getting involved. And one thing led to another. And it was like, you know, it was kind of, you know, I had a couple of talks with just friends. I'm not one of these people that has this big machine team, have this big team around them where, you know, clearly every tweet's not screened. Yeah, I picked up on that. Everything that comes out of my mouth

or the decisions I make, I take responsibility for it all. It's me. There's no filters in there. But when it came, it was like, you know, there's going to be no corporate deals this, that, and the other.

And I'm like, good. I'm like, I'm so sick of dealing with those. I'll try not to curse so much, you know, and the BS that goes on in these corporate things. And I've only aligned myself with, you know, things that Coors Light, I deal with them. I deal with Jim Beam. I deal with Harley Davidson and Chevy trucks. It's like, these are all things that, you know, I was involved in, but, and still, even though I used all those things, like dealing with the corporate bullshit, I was like, yeah, if I never see that again, I could care less. And there's no amount of money on the face of this earth, because I've turned down tons of it, that would ever get me to be

vocal or be somebody I'm not. And then people would see somebody different than who I really am. I just got to say, you make it sound easy. I know a lot of people in your business, in the entertainment business, obviously, and they don't reach the same conclusion you did, actually. I think it's a harder decision than you're admitting. Like I said, I had the money in the bank, so it was, you know, a lot of people don't want to mess with their bottom line. A lot of people, anybody, this goes for anybody, they don't, you know, they're scared of their social standing. You know, God forbid mom drops off the kids at school with

a MAGA hat on, you know what I mean? You're like, oh, All of a sudden, you're this polarizing, divisive person because you said, do I want to make America great again? I was like, how dare you? You know, people are scared. One thing, I've been a lot of things. One thing I've never been is scared. That's for sure. Amen.

So has it? Do you think it has cost you? No. I was planning on it probably, you know, like, hey, you have the potential to give up a lot. And I'm like, I don't care. It's like, whatever. This tells me it's the right thing to do. This is what my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ tells me is the right thing to do.

And I'm going to follow my heart. And, you know, it's crazy because there's some times where it goes like this, and it's, you know, very vocal. It'll last however many years. And the last full tour I did a few years ago, the only thing I did to promote it was the thing I did with you. That was it. And to one piece of present, we sold out every city on that tour.

And, you know, it just goes to show you, if you speak your truths, and I mean they have to be your truths, not something you heard, not something you're repeating to get somewhere, to get to a certain stature, but if it's really your truths, you, your families, your friends, things you believe in, like, good things will

come. That is... I love hearing you say that. I think it's true. Where did you learn that? I don't know. Detroit? You know, you know where I learned a lot of that? When I was very young, I was like the white kid that hung out in the black areas. And I was a DJ and I break dance and all this stuff. And I remember back

then, like if I would try to fit in, like, back then wear, like, a troop suit and have on, like, this cool hip-hop stuff. What's a troop suit? Like, LL Cool J used to wear them. It was this big thing in the 80s. Like, it was some straight hip-hop shit, like, you know. And I was really this nerdy little kind of, you know, white skateboarding kid.

You know, that came from a really nice middle-upper class family from Romeo, Michigan. But I'm like, you know, thank you. I'm very proud of that. And my friends would kind of be like, what's the matter with him? That boy's confused. And then when I would kind of just be myself

and I'd kind of have on my nerdy painter's cap and my skateboard gear and I'm doing my DJing, people responded more that I was just myself. People can see through you. They can tell if you're real or not. And so I kind of learned that through that experience young. At least that's one of them. That's so smart.

So how, okay, so you now spend part of the year, obviously you're still in Michigan a lot of the year, but you're also in Nashville, which is really the center of the music business. And like everybody in the business seems to live there. How do they treat you? Well, I feel I should just tell the people of Michigan that I said for years,

there's no way I will ever live out of Michigan, ever, right? I live in Nashville now, and I'll tell you why. I'm still up in Charlevoix all summer long. But, you know, I never thought I would have another residence, but Michigan. I figured, you know, I'd die a Michigan resident. That's just the way it was. And, you know, have other homes because I've worked hard and been blessed. My son, you know, went to school.

I raised him in Clarkston, Michigan. He went to Orchard Lake, St. Mary's. And then he went to college at a small Christian school called, called, uh, Belmont. Um, had my granddaughter while in college with his eighth grade sweetheart. They eventually got married. I have my second grandson now. Um, but after he finished college, he was in Nashville for several months, and I'm like, and I always had a condo down there,

kind of like a little party house. And it was no fun. And so I finally, you know, I'm like, well, son, I'm like, when are you coming back to Michigan to, you know, learn how to sweep the floors and maybe figure it out and work your way up and run one of these businesses. He's like, I'm not coming back. I'm not coming back to Detroit. I'm not coming back to Michigan. I'm like, you're not coming back to the Mecca of Detroit? I'm like, hmm. I'm like, yeah, okay. All right, I'll be right there. So my son and my grandkids,

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you have people over, your studio, your dinner. Wow, what a lighter. That's serious. Speaking of the 80s, that's an 80s lighter. I mean, do you ever have, like, political... I mean, are they on your side secretly, do you think? Who's that? The other artists in Nashville.

I mean, Nashville's a lot more conservative, obviously, from the country music scene. But honestly, I mean, I hang out with everybody. I could care, you know. I mean, there's a short movie thing. I don't know if anybody's seen it. Did it years ago with Sean Penn. It's called Americans.

It's on YouTube. And it's about, you know, thinking differently, having completely different political views, and how basically thinking differently is what made this country great. I'm still going to hold my views. You're going to hold yours, but we can find more in common at the end of the day.

There's some things I'm just not going to budge on, and some people, like the old Democrats didn't scare me. Blue Dog Democrats, we called them. You know what I mean? Like Al Gore from Nashville. Like Robert Kennedy Jr., if he would have ran and got elected, that doesn't scare me. Blue Dog Democrats, we called them. You know what I mean? Like Al Gore from Nashville. Like Robert Kennedy Jr., if he would have ran and got elected, that doesn't scare me. It's these freaking weirdos.

You know, these far-left Marxist, borderline communist, freak, socialist weirdos that creep me out. Are there still, I mean, sincere question, I don't know the answer, but there used to be, you know, for generations, a hundred years, union Democrats in the state of Michigan who were like pro-America, hunters, fishermen, you know, masculine men, for example,

actually, and they were Democrats because that's what the UAW did. Do those people still exist? I mean, obviously the lines have been blurred big time in a good way because they've taken so much for granted. I mean, look at Trump had minorities, you know, working better wages than anybody else and ever in the history. You know what I mean? And it's like, and everyone's like, that guy's a racist Nazi. You're like, what are you talking history. You know what I mean? And it's like, and everyone's like,

that guy's a racist Nazi. You're like, what are you talking about? You know what I mean? And, and, you know, I think people get complacent. They always do, you know, at the top of anything and Democrats clearly, I hate to sound like, you know, broken record, repeating talking points. We hear all the time on the news, but you know, they take the black vote for granted. They take the union vote for granted. You take the union vote for granted. You just think these are like, we don't have to say anything. These are just, we're pro and we're going to

give you money. It's the big pork thing in D.C. And it's... When you hear Kamala Harris say that if the government knows you have a gun, they have the right to barge into your house and inspect it.

They can barge in. They're going out in a body bag. Last time I checked, the Second Amendment means something. Yeah. And by the way, it brings it to the point of the First Amendment. How important is that? You know what it is?

You can't protect the First Amendment without the Second. So you don't think barging in your house and confiscating your weapons is common sense gun reform? Yeah, probably not. The problem with the common sense laws is like, I'm a common sense person. I can talk to some of my, call them left-wing friends, and they suggest these things. I'm like, okay, that

makes sense, right? You know, about being responsible to lock your gun up or keep it out of the reach of children. I get it. Absolutely. Problem is if they implement that of children. Like, I get it. Absolutely. Problem is if they implement that into law. The way I see it, these dumb shit attorneys that draw up all these bills, they'll flip this wording so freaking bad around that they'll take advantage of these laws and it will keep going like this and take and take and take. If we had sensible people, everything would be fine.

But, you know, you got people that scam on everything. They scam on their insurance. They scam on this. It's the guy that, you know, when you're in line to get off and he comes around and cuts right in. It's these people, you know. There's tons of them everywhere and they screw everything up for everybody.

You know what I mean? So you just can't have so many just decent common things, you know, in line. Trust me, there's ways to have fun, lots of fun, without being an idiot. Name three. What? Name three. Rock and roll, playing in a band. Hell, when I was younger, I did drugs and I wasn't an idiot. I mean, there's times when I got vocally like, oh, maybe I shouldn't have said that one. There have been times? I've seen the videos. There have been quite a few times. Absolutely. I would say drunk man's words are sober man's thoughts. When you were on stage,

I think it was in your bar, attacking Hillary Clinton, did you ever think I could wind up like Gaddafi? That's the most confusing thing I've ever... What was that? I could wind up like Jeffrey Epstein.

Maybe there are certain people I shouldn't criticize because they could hurt me. Nah. I mean, there's no way to live life. No way to live life. You know, looking over your shoulder, scared about what you said, you know, might offend somebody and they might kill you. I mean, it reminds me like when my sister, you know, when I got money and she controls a lot of my business stuff was like, you have to get rid of your diving board. I'm like, what? She's like, the insurance won't, you know, I'm like, that's enough.

I had enough of this shit. Kids want to jump on diving boards around a pool. Someone might crack their head and if they sue me and take everything I got, fuck it. I'm like, I don't care. I'm like, I'm not going to live life like that. Do you still have the diving board? Well I have a new house It's way worse than a diving board It's a vanishing edge pool with no protection

That goes down a mountain Wow that sounds like the world's most dangerous swimming pool Or awesome So I do want to ask you Wow, that sounds like the world's most dangerous swimming pool. Or awesome. So I do want to ask you, I've thought this of you many times, but you've been in this like 30 years. And most people who've been in your business, the rock and roll business, touring entertainers, artists,

I mean, if they're still alive, they're in worse shape than you are. What do you mean? Well, yeah. So what's your secret? You know, my son kept me very grounded, being a single father. My mom kept me in check, making me be as good a father as I could be, also helping me out. But, you know, I, you know,

her and his godparents, my sister, our cleaning lady, my production manager's mother, who had so many good people around to help me raise, raise my son, you know, chokes me up. But that, that, that right there, that only allowed me to be an idiot from like Thursday to Sunday morning. Rest, I had to, you know, parent-teacher conferences, had to drive to school and field trips, you know, and this, that, and the other and everything else. And then finally, you know, years back, you know, I just figured it out that let's replace those bad habits with good habits. I still, it's Friday night. I've worked my ass off all week.

Just came from rehearsals. I'm going to have a beer. It's just, I'm not the weird one. You know what I mean? I don't do this every night anymore. Five days a week, I'm on a strict health regimen, this, that, and the other. I took my bad habits and I replaced those with good habits. And that's really what I did. Amazing. Do you know other people in your business who've done that

and were still around, like guys you started with? A few of them, yeah. A few of them, yeah. A lot of them was, well, I think Scott Stapp changed his life around. He was pretty messed up for a while, trust me. And I hear Creed's back doing great stuff. I know, so, you know, it is possible. It's not a story you hear very often.

A lot of time it's like, you know, the band breaks up. You know, like, screw you, screw you. We all hate each other. And blah, blah, blah. And then 10 years later, they're like, you got any money? They're like, no, do you? They're like, you got any money? No, do you? They're like, I don't either. They're like, we're getting the band back together.

Reunion tour. We were driving from Detroit to Anecima, Michigan last summer. Anecima, Portage Lake. And it's like, what, three or four hour drive and we had played this game in the car where we can only listen to music from Michigan. You were on there. Must have been an awesome ride.

It was, but that's my question, okay? And I'm not even mentioning Motown. Like, you can just go, I mean, you could drive from here to Fairbanks and just listen to Michigan music. Drive from here to China. Yeah. Put your car in a boat.

So why has this state produced so much good music? Well, I think it was, you know, the migration from the South, you know, and everyone came to work in the industrial revolution in the auto industry. Some people stopped in Chicago. That's where you got, like, the blues scene that formed, and then other people kept going because you could get this wage and you could work and get off at three o'clock and you could play at the bars and I swear you got the sadder people stopped in Chicago whatever it was back then you

know people man we can go work up there and make money and be you know be treated pretty decently you know even though it was pretty horrible in those factories back then to a lot of these people coming from the South after this time, you know, dark period in our history. And they came up here and, you know, you get off the planet at 3 o'clock or whatever, you go play the bars, you know, or vice versa. You get off at a certain time and that,

and you had all this melting pot of people come from everywhere to come for this industrial revolution. I think the combination of that you know from and having you know jazz and blues here everything you know the oldest jazz club is in detroit uh baker's keyboard lounge thank you yes baker's keyboard lounge and you know john john lee hooker writing those songs down in haston street oh mama had a dream last night you know and then it just goes on and on from there. It's a prison of soul music and Motown

and, you know, rock and roll and house music and, you know, hip hop. And it just, you know, it hasn't stopped. You think the leadership of Michigan will get better? I fucking hope so. Jesus. Gretchen Shipmer. So that's not an endorsement.

Do you know anyone who voted for her? Yeah. It was an extended family member. Did the extended family member explain why? I don't know, but... Oh, man, this is a tough one, too, to be talking about family, but... That's like, most of these people are, oh, man, this is a tough one, too, to be talking about family. But that's like most of these people are, like, divorced, overweight, pissed off at the world, you know, angry at every man alive.

And my gut tells me those are the women that voted for her. I think that's probably the deepest thing ever uttered on this stage and the truest. My personal research on the question confirms what you just said. So it would be good to have a happy governor with happy voters in a happy state. Someone shouting Kid Rock for governor. Would you run for governor of Michigan? What's that? That's actually why I came tonight, was to announce my candidacy.

You know, the funny thing is you'd probably win, and you'd probably be great. Yeah, that was messed up when I was doing that little Senate bit. By the way, Trump asked me about that for like three years after it was done and I came out and I was like, hey man, I was just screwing around. And I was winning. Actually, my brother saw Debbie stabbing out backstage at one of my shows.

I know, boo. And she's like, my brother's like, what are you doing here? She's like, I just wanted to thank your brother. He raised me so much money with that little Senate stunt. And I'm like, oh, shit. I wouldn't plan it on that. I backfired a little bit.

Do you think you'd have fun doing it, though? No. I don't think anybody should have fun doing it. I'm sick of every politician on every side thinking they're a fucking celebrity. You know what I mean? When the celebrities should really be the people who fight and die for this country, who keep their mouth shut and do their job, go to work every day.

And then you got these politicians who are like, well, I just got an office and I wrote a book and you know, I got a job at Fox News now and I'm on CNN and I'm over here and I think I'm a big deal. Want a selfie with me? It's like, you're supposed to be doing a service to your country. And the reason we can't get any good people is because it's like when people say about Trump, well, he said, grab him by the pussy and like this and it's like, whatever. We're not electing the deacon of the church. All right. You want someone who's going to keep you safe, going to lower your taxes. You know what I mean? It's going to protect you and your family values. And, and there's nobody in here cast the first

stone. You know, he has no sin. You know what I mean? We all got some dirt somewhere. You know, you run for office and they're going to dig it up and they're going to drag you through the mud and punish your family and your friends. Who would want that job? We have some of the smartest people, the smartest people in this country that I guarantee you would give two, four, six years,

eight years of their life to make this a better place. To say like, I've been very successful. If I can sacrifice, which I think Trump has done. Didn't take a paycheck when he's in office. He's a freaking billionaire. He's got a hot wife. He's got real estate all over the world. And he's like, no, let me run for president.

Somebody take a shot at me. You know what I mean? Try and kill me because I want to help this country out. I mean, if that's not conviction, I don't know what is. You know, that was pretty close, I would say. Just drinking beer on a Friday night with Tucker and some friends. I know you've talked to him in the last month. That didn't even, if someone shot me in the face,

it would give me pause, I must say. He didn't even seem to slow down. No, and I think he said that the other night on Gutfeld, which I thought was great. I actually told him, I said, sir, I go in that setting with several people that are smart, funny, I go, you shine like a diamond. You know what I mean? It's just not talking policy over and over again. I go, you were funny, engaging, you still had your points. I mean, if you don't know what Trump's policies are right now, you must live in a freaking cave. You know what I mean?

We understand what he wants to do. This is the first time, I know I'm getting off track, but I tell people, like I was talking to some people in my band today at rehearsal. Some of them are Democrats. Some of them are gay. I don't give a shit. But it's fun to have discussions. And the way

I broke it down to one of my band members was like, you know, just think of it like this. This is one of the only times in our lifetime, certainly. And I think it's only happened twice before. You'd have to fact check me. But where you have, forget, you don't even need these people, Kamala Harris or Trump, to say anything. They both have four years of a track record. Period. You don't need to look any farther. Just check their homework.

Okay, Kamala Harris, D minus. Donald Trump, A plus. Boom. I'm going to vote for the guy that got the A plus. You said that you watch all kinds of media. Yeah. Who drives you craziest?

Who drives me craziest? Man. There are a lot to choose from, obviously. Yeah, not really media, but, I mean, none of them drive me crazy. I just laugh it off, you know?

I don't let people get in my skin like that. In case you haven't noticed, I could give a frog's fat ass. Nobody's getting under my skin like that. How much time do you spend watching The View? You know, sometimes I'll watch the morning programs and then I get done with my workouts, come in here and when I come back down, it'll be on. You know, because I didn't change. I like to watch

Varney, Fox Business. I love Varney. I do too. But if I didn't flip it before I went up to the house, do my other workout and come out, it'll be on. I'll be like, pop a bag of popcorn and be like, I see what these bitches got to say today.

Yeah, they annoy me. But at the same time, I'm just laughing at them. You know what I mean? I'm not like, oh my gosh, they ruined my day. I'm like, look at these hoes. CNN doesn't make you mad? I mean, it's more fodder than mad. Yeah.

You know what makes me mad? It's like every time I go to the fridge, I open something up, and it's got like a little plastic label. Get that thing off. All right, then I'm unscrewing it. Can I get this thing off it? And I'm like, God, son of a bitch. I'm like, that pisses me off. I'm like, why? Because there's some fruitcakes running around that want to put weird stuff in your food. I'm like, we should just execute these people. Get them out of the gene pool. That's what pisses me off. So food packaging is your top issue, would you say?

Yep. I'm in my 50s too, man. I feel you. Why does every apple have to come with a little plastic sticker on it? You get a piece of fruit, you wash it, and you're like, oh, fuck, somebody put a sticker on it. You get a piece of fruit, you're like, you wash your feet like, oh fuck, somebody put a sticker on this thing. But that's never brought up

in a single presidential debate and I'm wondering why. Well, if you'd like to see, you know, how it really goes, I should moderate a debate. I mean, can you imagine if we just talked like everyday people?

And I know everyday people don't all use curse words, but I mean, my mom says the F word at this point. Like, you know what I mean? And that was a word if you said at my house growing up, you were running out because if not, you were touching your toes and getting the paddle. You know, if you could just sit there and you're like, that's horse shit. Like, what are you talking about?

Like, this is clearly stated right here. Like, are you going to answer the question or not? If you're not going to answer it, just say no. Well, I feel, you know, the world needs a new vibe. That's not the question. Would you offer to moderate the next debate Between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump? Absolutely

Could we do it at the Kid Rock White House? I wouldn't exactly call it moderating We might have to come up with a new word More be like referee Trump would do that in a second He does any of that in a second he does any of that in a second this guy goes I've seen him in Detroit in black churches

I've seen him in the South Bronx I've seen him in different neighborhoods Hispanic neighborhoods he'll meet with anybody I took some of my boys from Detroit to meet him last time he was here guys who are real prominent in the city kind of grew up gangster hip hop now we're community leaders, influencers. And they're like, they're like,

dog, you might've had that one, right? You know, like this, like, you know, um, he, he's, he's, you know, I find a similarity in us and like that. And like, I will sit down and talk to anybody. Let's have a beer. There's somebody, I've said the worst things about this, that, and like that. And like, I will sit down and talk to anybody. Let's have a beer. There's somebody, I've said the worst things about this, that, and the other. Somebody I've thrown under the bus, they've thrown me under the bus. I'll be like, let's have a beer. On occasion, it's happened here and there. And like, I'm telling you, you always like, you always end up with a handshake and a laugh. You know, isolation is what really breeds hate in my mind. When you're isolated from everybody. Like COVID, that bred a lot of hatred in people.

You know, you're just isolated. You're like, shit, the person you live with, you're like, I didn't want to live with you 24 hours a day. It's kind of nice going to work. You know what I mean? To get out and just when you see other people, you understand their views. And there's some things where you're like,

look, I just can't get down with it. You know what I mean? Do you want to cut your penis off? Like, I'm going to draw the line there, all right? Like, that's like, you know, you want to play in, you know, the whole sports things and men in bathrooms are like, no, no, I'm going to, it's a hard no.

A hard no. I mean, that should be a reality show. Who will cut their penis off first? Dancing with no penis. That's so good. I don't think we're allowed to laugh at that. It's deadly serious. I mean, this is a personal journey. I've never been on stage this long

with a microphone, honestly. I love it. I have another beer without being like the first 10 minutes I thought of it I've never been on a stage this long with a microphone with this many people and not been covered in sweat from head to toe that's nice, isn't it?

it's easier than what you do honestly, I'd rather have my band to be playing music. Just because I'm better at it. So I noticed you're drinking Coors Light. I'm drinking whatever you put here. Oh, we did? My dad told me there's two types of beer in this world. Cold.

There's, well, fuck. As I'm drinking beer, there's two types of beer in this world, Coors Light and Free. You like them both. All right, before you go, tell us, I mean, what you do for pure entertainment.

I mean, I've never seen video of you shooting consumer products. I love to have my friends and family for dinners. Really? Yeah. Yep. That's pretty great. Where? At your house?

I got this. I'm going to brag a little bit, but whatever. You'll enjoy it. I got this dining room that's elevated, and my house overlooks the whole city of Nashville, and I put this floor in, and it spins like one of them hotels, you know, I used to go to, and I'm like, I'm like, what the hell am I going to do with all this money?

I'm like, I got it. A floor that spins. I'm like, bam the hell am I going to do with all this money? I'm like, I got it. A floor that spins. I'm like, bam, nailed it. And so we call it the spinner dinner. And friends or family come over, and it's only eight seats. Well, that's like a Tilt-O-World. Does anyone get sick? It don't go that fast.

But, you know, it's only eight people, so it's intimate. You spend time with people. We have some cocktails and stuff before we have dinner, and then shenanigans after, whatever happens, you know? And that's honestly my favorite thing to do. So you've been on stage for 30 years. You're one of the most famous people in the country, but when it comes down to it,

what you really want to do is have dinner with the people you love. Yeah. Spend time with the people I love. Amen. Well, that kind of says it all. It says everything about you, and it says everything about the purest human desires,

and I hope that we can keep doing that in this country. Amen. Amen. Kid Rock, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you, Michigan. We love you. The big tech companies censor our content. I hate to tell you that it's still going on in 2024, but you know what they can't censor? Live events. And that's why we are hitting the road on a fall tour for the entire month of September, coast to coast. We'll be in cities across the United States.

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