The Tucker Carlson Show - Maxime Bernier: Trump’s Tariffs, Mass Immigration, and the Oncoming Canadian Revolution

Episode Date: April 16, 2025

It’s hard to overstate how dystopian and threatening Canada has become. An update from longtime Canadian government official Maxime Bernier.  (00:00) Who Was Justin Trudeau Really Working For? (07:53) the Invasion of Canada (09:19) Pierre Poilievre Is a Fraud (13:25) The Attempts to Destroy Christian Countries (15:51) The Trade War Between Canada and the US (23:03) The Canadian Government’s Ridiculous Climate Change Agenda (36:00) The Growing People’s Party (42:36) Is Trudeau Fidel Castro’s Son? Paid partnerships with: ExpressVPN: Go to https://ExpressVPN.com/Tucker and find out how you can get 3 months of ExpressVPN free! PureTalk: Switch your cell phone service to a company you can be PROUD to do business with. https://PureTalk.com/Tucker Silencer Central: Promo code Tucker10 for 10% off your purchase of banish suppressors at https://www.silencercentral.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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That was a authoritarian government. I don't know if you remember that, but I did an interview with you after. Very well. Yeah, I was handcuffed and put in jail for a non-crime just in the summer of 2021 because I was speaking about freedom in a park in Manitoba. And he did impose on us also a vaccine passport. I wasn't able to travel across the country because I'm not vaccinated, you know. But what he did to our country... Do you regret not being vaxxed?

Oh, no. Do you ever think, I really wish I'd had the COVID vaccine? No, no. That was the best decision in my life. Me too. I totally agree. Sorry, not to make others feel better. So he went about it so systematically, he got the government to pay for killing your citizens through the maids program. Like everything he did seemed designed to destroy Canada, like on purpose. If you wanted to destroy the country, you would do what he did. Why do you think he did that? You know, he is a socialist for sure, and a globalist, you know, and the World Economic

Forum for him was, you know, the great thing, you know, and they were promoting socialism and globalism. And nobody imposed that philosophy on us, on Canadians. Trudeau was very pleased with that. And he decided to put legislation into place, into force in Canada, in line with that philosophy. And, you know, for him, he was spending money like, you know, like it was, you know, not a big deal. Actually, what he did, he was able to double the debt that we accumulated over 148 years. He was able to double that in 10 years. So, our debt went- He doubled the debt in 10 years. So our debt went- He doubled the debt in 10 years. The debt that we accumulated over 148 years, it took him 10 years to do that. So the debt was $600 billion

and he doubled that to $1,200 billion. And he said, you know, deficits are okay. When you have a deficit, you know, it's a way to stimulate the economy. But we know that, you know, you cannot stimulate the economy with borrowed money. It's a sedative for the economy. So now in Canada, we are in, you know, his dad was a big proponent of multiculturalism. You know, every culture are equal. And he did that in the 1970s, that philosophy,

and now we have a legislation in Canada promoting multiculturalism. But add that with mass immigration, you have the perfect storm. You have people who are coming to our country and you don't ask them to integrate into our society. You can keep your culture. You don't integrate into our society. We live in a ghettos and we have ghettos in Canada also. So a lot of people came to Canada and, you know, the economy was growing because of the growth of the population. But, you know,

the population was growing faster than the economy. So our GDP per capita went down the last 10 years. So we are poor today in Canada if you look at what we had 10 years ago. And it's because of Trudeau. It's because of massive immigration. It's because of big spendings. That's the legacy of Justin Trudeau. Tens of thousands of Canadians killed themselves during his time.

I mean, if there's one measure of happiness, it's like you don't kill yourself. So if you have Canadians killing themselves, tens of thousands of them, then that... So my question is, why isn't he in jail? And we're all excited to send all these people to jail. Andrew Tate must go to jail or whoever. But like, I don't understand why Justin Trudeau is not in jail for destroying an entire nation. But the good news right now is not in government anymore, but we still have the liberals.

But we need to have a real inquiry about everything that happened during COVID-19. These people must be responsible. And you're right. And now they are not. It's like they want to turn the page about what they did to us during the COVID hysteria. For them, you know, that was okay. That was not okay. We had a Charter of Rights. They did not respect our Charter of Rights. And, you know, look at the Freedom Convoy. The Freedom Convoy. For me, that was not a protest.

That was a celebration of who we are as a Canadian. We decided, okay, now we will end that authoritarian government peacefully. And what Trudeau did, he invoked the Emergencies Act. Yes. That's an act that he used in times of war against us, against freedom fighters. And, you know, but at the end, we were successful because, you know, a couple of months after that freedom convoy, all these authoritarian measures, you know, they disappeared. And these politicians were not saying it's because of the freedom convoy, but it was because of the freedom convoy. People were fed up at that time. But I cannot understand why everybody's saying in Canada, that's okay, just forget that, forget what happened to you during COVID-19. We needed to do that because to protect yourself, but we know that that vaccine was not safe and effective. And we are still promoting the mRNA vaccine in Canada right now.

We're doing it in the United States too. And I don't understand why. And our proposal on that is a moratorium. We want a moratorium on immigration, a pause on immigration, no more immigrants for a couple of years until we fix the problem of mass immigration. And also a moratorium on these mRNA vaccine.

We would like that too. You never kind of get what you really want, do you? Yeah, but you need to fight for that. You need to fight for that. So what is Trudeau doing? I mean, there are many people responsible, I would say. I actually am one of the only Americans who's interested in Canada and really loves Canada because I live near Canada.

And so I've followed it and I think there are a number of people not just in Trudeau's party but in his coalition party who are responsible. But he's the most responsible. So what is he doing now? I don't know.

I don't know. I don't want to know, Tucker. But he just gets to like walk around Canada free? Oh, he's still free. He put people in prison for opposing him. But I can tell you he needs a free. Oh, he's still free. He put people in prison for opposing him. But I can tell you,

he needs a lot of security. I bet he does. Oh yeah, you know. Look, we are fed up with the liberals. And right now in that electoral campaign, it's all about, there's only one subject now. It's not, you know,

I wanted this election to be on mass immigration. That must be the most important. It is destroying our way of life, you know. And when I'm speaking about mass immigration, people don't understand that last year in Canada, we had 1.3 million foreigners coming to our country for a country of 40 million people. That is mass immigration.

Well, that's an invasion. Yeah. 97% of the growth of our population last year was coming from mass immigration. This is the replacement theory. It was not a theory. It's a reality. The Canadian population, like the American population, the European population, replaced. That's what is happening in our country right now.

And, you know, the immigrants that are coming here, the foreigners that are coming to Canada, you know, are coming from countries that doesn't share our Western civilization values. So it's more difficult for them. And they don't speak English or they don't speak French. They cannot integrate into our society. That's a big problem. That's a huge problem.

And now you have the housing crisis. Because of that, too many people, all these people need a roof. But the solution is, you know, it's a question of supply and demand. You just have to stop the demand and that will solve the housing crisis. But, you know, Poliev, the leader of the conservative party, like the Republican Party here in the US, but they're not conservative. They're conservative in name only. Like, you know, Pierre Poliev is the leader of the conservative party. He seems like a true fraud to me, like a pretty sinister fraud. But, you know, Pierre Polyev is the leader of the Conservative Party. He seems like a true fraud to me, like a pretty sinister fraud. But, you know, he's doing a campaign against Trump.

They don't want to do a campaign to help Canadians and put our country first. Now it's all about, oh, the tariffs. And, you know, we need to do counter tariffs. But that's killing us. How about stopping immigration from India and Pakistan? First, first, please. Yes, first. But that's not us. How about stopping immigration from India and Pakistan? First, first, please. Yes, first. But that's not even a consideration.

No, they are pandering. They are pandering. The liberals and the conservatives are pandering to these ethnic communities for votes. So that's why they don't speak about ending mass immigration. Actually, Polyev said we need to have 250,000 foreigners a year, plus international students, plus temporary foreign workers, plus refugees. That will be about 1.5 million foreigners over three years. That is mass immigration. In the middle of a mass immigration crisis, we cannot afford that. We cannot.

That's destroying... So can I say, again, just to the question I asked about Trudeau, I'm going to ask the same about Polyev. Who's paying him to do that? That's not... I mean, no one's benefiting. Maybe people from Bangladesh are benefiting.

Okay, I'm not against them, by the way. I understand. I'd move to Canada too if I lived in Bangladesh. But no one in Canada is benefiting from this. So why would Polyev and Trudeau be embracing the same policy that everyone hates and is destroying Canada? You have a point there. 70% of the population in Canada, the last survey, are saying no to mass immigration. We must end mass immigration. So your question is, if these politicians want to be elected, how come they are not listening to the population?

Exactly. Because there are, you know, there's 343 ridings in Canada, and that's a parliamentary system. So they're looking at different ridings and they want to have support in different ridings to be able to have a majority. But in a lot of ridings, there's a majority of foreigners or immigrants and they want to have their support. But the new immigrants, so they are asking for having their family here in Canada with them. When I'm speaking about family, it's not the immediate family, mother, father, and children. No, it is, you know, your uncle, your grandmom, granddad, brothers, sisters, so the entire family, and they want them here in Canada. So they're saying, okay, reunification of family

will do that for you. You'll be able to bring all your family here in Canada. So because of the electoral system, they're looking to win some ridings to have a majority. And that's why they are not speaking for Canadians. They're speaking for different people in different ridings where they have a majority there. So what you're really saying is that a democratic system does not produce democratic results. We have these democratic

systems throughout the West that have for 50 years done the opposite of what their populations want. So it's a democratic system without democracy. That's the way it feels to me. And when you have another point of view, like us, the People's Party, about that, they try to cancel you. They don't want you. They don't, you know, the mainstream media in Canada, they won't, it's like I don't exist as a populist party in Canada. So they don't want our point of view to be out there. So I need to do podcasts and, you know,

being with you and traveling across the country and doing my campaign on social media. That's the only way to be out there. And they know if more people can understand our position, we will have more support. But they don't want that. You know, all these, they're globalists. I'm the only one who's fighting for the sovereignty of our country. For them, you know, more people would be okay.

For me, let's just have that pause. But they're not really globalists, are they? Because they're not doing this to China and Africa and the Middle East. They're not saying those nations need to invite a lot of people from different parts of the world. It's not actually global. It's only one side.

It's anti-Western. They're saying that there's something about a majority white Christian country that's inherently threatening and we're going to destroy it. And that's kind of, not kind of, it is exactly what they've done around the world. They did that in France, in UK, in Germany, and now in Canada. Yes, you've got basically Russia left. And of course, that's the country they hate most. So it is a tell. Like they're not screaming at Chairman Xi to let in a bunch of people from Nigeria.

It's like not even on the table. They're not even demanding Japan do that. It's just Canada, UK, Western Europe, Australia, New Zealand, and the US. And that's it. That's it. And what they're doing, you know, if you are a leader of a nation,

your first responsibility is to work for your people. And it's immoral what they're doing right now because they're helping foreigners more than Canadians. Of course. What, what, Pauliev, the leader of the Conservative Party of Canada, and Carney, the leader of the Liberal Party of Canada, they're saying on mass immigration, we will solve that. We will build more houses for them. So what they're doing, they want more foreigners, and that's why they're building more houses. But that's not to solve the housing crisis for Canadians. No, that's, you know, they are putting their energy

to be sure that foreigners will come to our country and they will have a roof. I'm saying, no, just stop that, please. Let's work for our people first but why do they hate i mean look in the end you understand motive by action like how does someone feel i don't know let's watch what he does yeah so if you deny your children food you probably hate your children you can say whatever i love my children but if you're not giving them dinner you hate them why do and so they clearly Polyev and Trudeau and Carney, really hate Canadians.

Why is that? Why? What they like, it's power. I wish I have the answer to that, but they are telling you the opposite. They are telling you that they love. You know, Tucker, in that trade war with the U.S. right now, Polyev and Carney are saying to us Canadians, we love you.

We love you so much, Canadians, that what we will do, we will impose counter tariffs because Trump is bad. President Trump is very bad, you know, and we want to keep our country united. We are a sovereign country. We love you. We will impose a new tax on you, 25% on everything that you are importing from the US. I told you the inflation is high in Canada. Our standard of living is going down and they add to

that a new tax, 25%. And they're telling us it's because we love us. They love us, sorry. And so it's crazy. And, and, you know, they're, they're okay with that. And the former prime minister of Canada, Stephen Harper, I was with him. I was a conservative before I was elected for 13 years. I was a minister of foreign affairs and industry minister under the Harper government. I resigned and we created the People's Party in 2018. But Harper just wrote a letter in the National Post in Canada three weeks ago. And he said, we need to do that trade war with US dollar for dollar. And you know, you're 10 times bigger than us. We won't win a trade war against the US. That's true.

And he said dollar for dollar. And he said, yes, it will hurt us Canadians. And yes, we may start a recession, but that's okay. So what I'm telling Canadians, no counter tariffs. It's a tax that you impose on Canadians and Canadian businesses. You must stop that. We must have a deal with President Trump as soon as possible. And we are able to do that if we put everything on the table.

But for Carney and Polyev, no, that's okay. And actually, last week, about this tariff, Carney said, okay, we will impose another tariff on the car imported from the US. And he said, the government will be able to raise $8 billion. And we will give that to big corporations because they are affected by these tariffs. They cannot export their products to the US. So what is is telling us? I will take $8 billion for the poor consumers with that new tax. You, Canadian consumers, you will pay that,

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Yeah, you know, both of them are about tied in the polls right now. But I don't know what will happen. Are there real differences between them? On Paris, no. On immigration between them? On Paris, no. On immigration, no. On immigration, no. On climate change, oh, that's a good one. You know, Poliev is supposed to be a conservative.

It's supposed, you know, our position, the People's Party, is to withdraw from the Paris Accord. Of course. Like Trump. But for Poliev, the conservatives, and the liberal, there's a climate emergency in Canada, and we must do everything.

Because it's too cold in Canada? Maybe. Yeah, it's too cold. It's still pretty cold in Canada. Yeah, and cold. It is a little bit cold. But that being said, yeah, for Poliev and Carney,

they want to impose a carbon tax because Canadians don't want it. So they are listening a little bit to Canadians, but they want to impose more regulations on businesses. They want to impose other taxes to fight climate change and to be able to achieve the Paris Accord goal that we have. And at the same time, look at that. CO2 for them is a pollutant. CO2 is not good. And we need to capture the CO2. So they're giving billions of dollars to a new technology to capture CO2 and put the CO2 down in the ground. So it's so bad for you. It's like a joke. It's like a joke.

Yeah. It's like a joke. But you know, Tucker, there's one natural technology to capture CO2. Yes, there is. This is plants. Trees. Trees, plants. It is food for plants.

We need more CO2. We don't need to capture CO2 and put that in the ground. But they will spend billions of dollars that we don't have. They're children. And they're also hamstringing your country, preventing it from being rich on the basis of its abundant natural resources, which Canada has.

Like the US, like Australia has amazing natural resources and they're basically saying we're not allowed to use them because the Chinese don't want us to. It does seem like China controls your country. I'm just like. But speaking about China, CCC is our secret service. And they did an investigation and they said, that's not me.

They said it, that our election in 2019 and 2021, we had Chinese interference in our elections. The Chinese Communist Party was giving money to some candidates from Chinese origin. So it's happening in our country right now. But Polyev is okay with that. And they said also there's MPs, members of parliament in the Conservative Party of Canada and in the Liberals Party of Canada who are not loyal to our country. They said it. And we want to know the names of these people. But Poliev and Carnet and Trudeau before that, they don't know.

It's secret. We won't tell you who these people are. So we have members of parliament in the parliament in Canada where their first goal is to help their country of origin, China or India. So that is happening because of mass immigration. If you have all these people who are coming to our country, they are not part of this country. They're coming here only because of the economy. They want a better future economically.

But, you know, they don't share our values and their loyalty is with their country of origin. You've had political assassinations that have nothing to do with Canada at all. I mean, we have the same problem here. You know, everyone's yelling at each other about the Middle East. We've got nothing to do with Canada at all. I mean, we have the same problem here. You know, everyone's yelling at each other about the Middle East. We've got nothing to do with the Middle East. Yeah. We have a lot of people who have got a lot of strong feelings about the Middle East that have nothing to do with America at all. And we've got these

massive protests, people yelling at each other about these faraway countries. It's totally nuts as our population withers and dies. But you have the same problem and you've had, you know, Sikh-Indian rival... I don't even understand some of it. I'm not interested. Yeah, I'm not interested.

I don't think I should be interested. But you've had people killed over this. Yeah, I'm not interested also. They are coming here and they're bringing their internal conflicts, the conflicts of their country of origin on our street. They're doing that in Canada right now. So, you know, speaking about the Middle East, I'm not pro-Palestine,

I'm not pro-Israel, I'm pro-Canada. So, we don't have to do anything over there. And our position is, you know, we won't have any impact on the politics in Middle East. That's you in the US will have the greater impact there. So that's why I'm saying, I don't want to speak about that. That's not our issue. And same thing for the war in Ukraine. The war in Ukraine, I was the only leader saying, no, we must not participate in that war. But Poitier and Trudeau at that time and Nark Carney, they are pro-war and they are pro, you know, the war in Ukraine. And actually right now, President Trump, he's doing the right thing.

Try to have a peace deal with Russia. And we in Canada are saying to Zelensky, we'll give you more ammunitions. We'll give you more resources. Let's have that peace deal. You know, and they're always, I notice every time I see your political leaders, they're always talking about some, they've got very strong views in the Middle East. It's like a massive debate in Canada.

You know, I'm kind of agnostic on it personally, but I just wonder what does that have to do with Canada? They spend so much time talking about it. Yeah, we must not talk about that. Absolutely. We must talk about the real issues. You know, no more climate change, no more Paris Accord, no more wealth health organization. The UN Global Compact on Migration, Canada signed that compact. So that's why, you know, for the UN, migration is okay. Everybody can go in any countries and you know, living there, you can be a citizen of Canada. No, it's a privilege

to be a Canadian and that must be it. But, you know, with that mass immigration, it is not a privilege anymore. We don't do anything. It's sad because it was, I mean, Americans always made fun of Canada but in a sort of sweet way and I think Canada's Canadians, a lot

of Canadians always resented the United States because it's this huge country, right? You know, I get all that. But in real life, Canada was always a very sweet, nice country and beautiful, truly beautiful country. And you have this disastrous 10 years where your life expectancy goes down,

your standard of living goes down, the country really starts to fall apart and become authoritarian, the opposite of the sort of sweet canadian culture you remember and then your option your option is a guy who actually agrees with the tyrant who destroyed your country so it's it's almost like it's like our system it's like we have obama who's clearly like hates america terrible for america but our option is john m and Mitt Romney, who agree with Obama. It's like, it all seems fake, kind of, no?

But we are the only option for Canadians. That's why I'm telling Canadians, we are the populace, and we can do a populace revolution based on free markets and respecting Canadians and working for Canadians. But, you know, that revolution will come in Canada, like in UK with Nigel Farage.

You know, he had 15% of the vote at the last general election in UK. He was able to elect only six candidates. But now in the polls, if you look at the polls in UK, he is leading these polls. So that's good for him. And you have Marine Le Pen in France, I hope she'll be able to be a candidate for the presidential election. So that movement started here in the US with Trump, the uni party, liberals or conservatives, the LibCon party. That's the same on the most important issue. And now in that electoral campaign, they are using slogans. Polyev is losing, so I'm here for you. I'm going to put Canada first. He's saying that seriously by saying more war in Ukraine, more mass immigration, you know, he's not speaking about ending the deficit.

More climate suicide. Yeah, climate suicide and all that. And, you know, our enemy is Trump, President Trump. And so you said you can't get on Canadian media, which is state media, right? I mean, doesn't your government sub sort of give money to the media? CBC and Radio-Canada in French, $1.2 billion. But the federal government is giving also $800 million to other media, mainstream media, CTV, Global Mail. And so we will cut that.

We want, you know... Why not have a free media? I mean, state media is for North Korea, right? Isn't that... Like free countries don't have state media, do they? That's why we want to cut that spending. And if Radio-Canada or CBC, they're going bankrupt, that's it. That's okay.

You know, that's the free markets. But they are the propaganda arms of the federal government, these mainstream media. And, you know, the narrative on COVID, and now you have, at that time, during the COVID hysteria, you know, you didn't have the other narrative on mainstream media. And now the narrative is, we must save our country from Trump. We are independent.

We just need to have a good deal with President Trump. And so that's the narrative right now coming from the mainstream media. So can you get your message? How do you get your message out in Canada? Today with you. Is that right? Oh, yeah. You've got to fly to the United States.

Absolutely. Do Canadians look at social media? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. That's the future. You know, I'm the only leader of a national political party in Canada who is doing podcasts. And Polyev and all these others, they won't. They cannot sit for an hour, two hours

and having a discussion. They cannot do that. So, but the new way of doing politics, Trump did it. President Trump did it. And, you know, it was successful. You need to have a discussion and explain your point of view and your political philosophy, political position. So I'm doing that. I'm the only one.

And it's helping. Yes, it's helping. And I think. How were you treated by the Globe and Mail and CBC and Radio Canada? I don't exist. They don't even mention you. No, I don't exist for them. I don't. And actually, look at that. I was supposed,

I did participate in the leaders' debate in 2019. We created that party in 2018. 2019 was our first election. And I did participate in the leaders' debate against Trudeau at that time. But in 2021, they created a new rule. And they said, OK, Bernie, now you don't have the right. And that commission, that leaders' debate commission, it's only to exclude.

They exist only to exclude the People's Party. And at this election, I was supposed to be able to participate in the national debates. That will be next week. But they changed the rules just to exclude us. So that's not fair. That process is not fair. They are so afraid of our ideas. They don't want us to have any traditional platform.

That's frightening. Can you raise money? Yes, we are generous by using our emails and our members. And yes, we have money. We are able to raise money. And I want to thank our donors. They are very generous. And so you need to be a Canadian citizen to donate.

And if they want to donate, they can go on our website, People's Party of Canada, CA, click donation. That will help us. Where are the French in all this? I always felt, you know, most Americans made fun of the French Canadians.

I know a lot of them. I have a lot of French Canadian friends. I live near French Canada and I've always liked them. And I have always defended them. And I always liked them because they defended their own culture and their own language. They're a little hard to deal with, you know. The rest of the French

always complain about them and their license plates in Quebec and all that. But I always thought when it came right down to it, the French Canadians would defend their land, their culture, their language, their history. And they're doing that right. Are they? I hope so. Yeah, they are doing that right now.

Look at the provincial level in Quebec. There's the Parti Québécois, the separatist party. And a young charismatic leader is the leader of that party. And the election at the provincial level in Quebec will be in 2026. And he's speaking about separation. And separation is growing in the polls right now. Why? Because of Trudeau, because of mass immigration.

Francophones are looking at it. All these immigrants and foreigners that are coming to Quebec and Canada who don't speak French, they cannot integrate in the Francophone culture. Yes. So they don't like that. So they're looking at the Parti Québécois. And the Parti Québécois is winning in the polls right now. And the leader said, if I'm the new premier of Quebec, a year after my election, I will

do a referendum on the independence, the sovereignty of Quebec. So it's back now because of mass immigration. And in Alberta, they are so mad about Ottawa and, you know, because they cannot export their natural resources with, you know, climate change regulations against the whole oil and gas industry. More Albertans are separatists now. So I'm telling Canadians, we are the only hope for this country. If we want to save this country, the People's Party is there because we will respect our constitution. We will have a radical decentralization. Alberta will be able to do that. We won't participate in the Paris Accord. We won't participate with these globalists at the UN

or the World Economic Forum or World Health Organization. So we'll be a real independent country. But Ottawa will be a smaller government that will be only in charge of its constitutional responsibilities and not interfering in provincial jurisdictions. Now you have that separatist movement in Alberta because of the federal government that is, you know, telling Albertans what to do. And Albertans don't like it. And I understand that. Do you think there's a chance that Alberta joins Montana? You know, they can stay in the country and I hope that they don't stay in the country if the People's Party position is adopted in our country, if we win, because we will have a radical decentralization

and I believe and will respect their jurisdiction, provincial autonomy, and I hope that it will stay. If not, they will want to be independent or they can be the first 51st state. I don't know. But that being said, my goal is to unite this country and with our policies, we will. But if we go with Poliev or Carney, that would be the end of this country in a couple of

years. And actually, Preston Manning. Preston Manning was the leader of the Reform Party in the 1980s. And at that time, you know, the Western Canadians were very mad at Ottawa with Trudeau. And they had that regional political party, the Reform Party, and very successful. And after that, the Reform Party did merge with the Canadian Alliance. And after that, the Conservative Party of Canada. So the Reform Party does not exist anymore. And our platform, it's about 90% of the reform, more autonomy, less government, you know, fiscally responsible. But Preston Manning said two days ago that, you know, if nothing's changed in this country, it would be good for Alberta to separate. He's saying that as the former leader of a party who tries to have Western back in Canada,

by changing Ottawa, and he was not successful. And now he's saying to Albertans, you know, yeah, separation, I'm okay with that. If Ottawa doesn't do anything for us, that would be the only solution. But we need, and that's why for me personally, I decided to jump into politics in 2006 to have a federal government that will respect our constitution,

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Oh, yeah, he's charming, he's funny, and, you know. But actually, it's all about himself. Yeah. It's all about himself. Is he Fidel Castro's son? That's a good question. We need to have a DNA on that. But do people in Canadian government believe that he might be? But Canadians, some Canadians believe for sure. Oh, actually yes, you know, that's on social media. You can see that. So it's not just a crazy theory that could be true. Well, it can,

for some it's crazy, for others it is not. Yes. But it is a real question. Certainly looks like it. It looks like it, yeah. One of the,

I'm not for socialized medicine, I guess, but, I don't have really strong feelings. I just want something that works, I guess, is what I really- But it is not working in Canada. Well, it's just sad because you would go to Canada. I've spent a lot of time there hunting and fishing.

And even the conservative Canadians say, you know, we've got this great healthcare system. And they were so proud of their healthcare system. And they really were. I remember very well, 30 years ago, they would always tell you, and they were a little bit insecure and defend, you know, we're Canada, we're a real country. But we have this great healthcare system. And they really were proud, I think. Were they? But that's not the case right now.

That's not the case right now because the waiting list for surgeries, you can wait a year. So, and, you know, we are spending a lot of money for health care and that's not functioning. So, but do people feel like it's not working in Canada? Yeah, more people actually. Oh, yeah, more people. So, they're ready. My position is for every Canadian to have an insurance. Everybody will have an insurance and they will be able to choose if they can go to a private hospital or a public hospital.

Like in Sweden, like in European countries, they're spending less on healthcare, but they're more effective. For us, you know, we need to put more competition in the system. So, and that would be a mixed system. We don't have that right now. You know, there's in some provinces,

like in Quebec, you can have, you know, private clinics that can do some surgeries. But, you know, all across the country, we need to have more private delivery of health care services. And we don't have that. And so more Canadians now understand that and they're ready for that reform. But establishment politicians won't speak about that. It's a taboo subject to ask for more private delivery of services. But the system itself doesn't work very well, right?

Doesn't work. Doesn't work. Immigration must be putting huge strain on that system. That's why, on that system, on our infrastructures, on healthcare, on schools, Schools, all that, housing. That must be the first priority for us in Canada. And for the mainstream media, the mainstream politicians, it is not. We are, you know, with the liberals, we are going, you know, driving into a wall. And with the conservatives, we are driving into a wall, but at a different speed. That's sad same same here.

I'm not a conspiracy person, but like if every, quote, democratic system in the West has the same outcome, which is two parties that fundamentally agree on the big issues, but pretend to hate each other while the real concerns of the population are ignored you gotta wonder like how did every country in the west wind up with the same fake system like honestly how did that happen yeah we must admit that the the globalist organizations and the world economic forum they they have huge influence. They are think tank. They are promoting their socialist, globalist ideas in Canada and other countries. And you have our elites. They are going to Davos. They like that. And they're, oh, that's a good idea.

They think that they know better than us what is good for Canadians. And, you know, they want to fix everything. And, you know, a solution to every problem must be a governmental solution, must be a solution that is coming from the government. But the government is the problem. We have too much government in our lives. So that's a problem in Western society right now. Mass immigration, big government, big deficit, high inflation, all that must change. Do you have friends or family who've left Canada?

I know people, not family, but I know people. Business people are saying, you know, I don't want to invest in Canada right now. Our private investment is going down and you need investment for economic growth. Of course. So, yeah, some people are leaving the country, but my goal, I'm telling them, stay in Canada, do the fight with me. Together, we can do that fight. We will win that battle of ideas. We have the best ideas based on individual freedom, personal responsibility, respect, small government. We have faith in people.

We don't have faith in a big, fat government. So stay in Canada, fight with me. And, you know, that's the fight. We need to win that fight. Why did they take all your guns away? Oh, Trudeau did it. And he was very successful to do that. You know, Trudeau doesn't want us to defend ourselves. And that's why in our platform, we have

the Castel Doctrine. You know, you must be able to have a gun. You must be able to defend yourself and your property with that. We need to change our criminal code for that. And our position as political party, we will repeal every legislation that Trudeau put in to be sure that he will eliminate all the guns. But for him, you know, and for the Conservative also on guns, they're dangerous. People are not responsible.

They must not have guns. So that's why we have very tough legislation on guns in Canada. And they don't respect property rights on guns. The federal government can decide tomorrow with a new regulation, this gun is illegal and the RCMP or police will go and seize your gun. They're very heavily armed. I've had a couple of encounters with Canadian law enforcement over the years,

bad encounters, and boy, they're heavily armed and very aggressive, very aggressive. They're not the kind of polite Canadians you think about. RCMP is like not anyone to mess with. They seem like a military force to me. But now they're a work organization. I know. The leader of the RCMP, they're working. You know, now in the RCmp and in the canadian forces you can be a

soldier for us without being a canadian citizen what without being a canadian citizen you're a you're an immigrant you can be part you can participate in the canadian forces so you're not a citizen of canada but they'll hand you an automatic weapon? And defend our country that you don't know. But a Canadian citizen can't have a gun at home. But they'll give some foreigner an automatic weapon, a fully automatic machine gun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A very dangerous one.

Yeah, yeah. Okay. So that suggests like they don't have good plans for you. That's not a good sign, right? That is not. That's why we need that revolution. We need to change the leadership that the Canadian forces and RCMP

having real people, promoting people because of their competence. The DEI in Canada, it's killing everything. Still? Oh, still. The Liberals are giving a lot of money to third-party organizations to promote DEI.

Anti-white policies. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. They're doing that. And, you know, they're going to promote people based on the color of their skin in the government and in the Canadian forces, based on your sexual orientation, we must not do that. You know, it's against the Western civilization values. We must promote meritocracy.

So I'm saying instead of DEI, it must be not diversity, but unity. Instead of equality, it must be, you know, everybody must be equal before the law. Exactly. And that's part of our values. And, you know, inclusion, you want to have people who are not competent to do something

in the government or in the Canadian forces, it must be based on meritocracy. And that's why, you know, what Trump is doing, what President Trump is doing in the U.S., fighting that, it's great because our mainstream media now in Canada, they have to speak about what is happening in the U.S. and they're speaking about what President Trump is doing, you know, promoting meritocracy and ending all that woke ideology. And so that is part of the narrative now in Canada.

So more people understand what is DEI? What is the woke ideology? Because when I'm speaking about that, and we know it's part of our program for the last six years, when I'm speaking about that, the mainstream media won't cover me. So now they are speaking against a little bit the DEI because they are telling us what Trump is doing in the US. But for them, it's very bad.

But at least they're speaking about that. And so people can think, yeah, you know, promoting people based on your competence must be the thing that you must do. I was in a restaurant the other night, in fact, this weekend, and I had a little trouble hearing what people were saying. And I thought to myself, I'm a little young to go deaf. Why? Well, because I grew up shooting, bird hunting, target shooting.

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off your first purchase of banish suppressors highly recommended i i wonder at a certain point um and clearly trudeau and paliev and the rest of them, Carney, think this too, but like, how far can you push people before, you know, they respond in an unreasonable, violent way? I mean, if this wasn't Canada, if it was any other country, I would say, boy, they're going to get a revolution if they're not careful. Like, you can't oppress people like this. You can't offer them suicide instead of health care. You can't flood their societies with foreigners. You can't destroy their standard of living. You can't throw them in jail for expressing opinions

without provoking, like, a violent response. Are they worried about that? Is that why they took your guns away? If they're worried about that. You know, I'm not worried about that as a leader of a... I'm against violent revolution, just for the record. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm against also that. No, it would, you know, I'm not worried about that as a leader of a... I'm against violent revolution, just for the record. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm against also that. No, it will, you know, the revolution will come when people will be ready.

And it's happening right now. You can see the change. You can see we have more support as a new political party. People understand the battle that we are doing. And I believe it would be a quiet revolution. They're going to say, you know, enough is enough. And that will happen. But as soon, I don't know,

it may be in a couple of years or a couple of months. We never know. But you see throughout the West, the democratic system controlled by authoritarians, excluding people from the system, you see with marine le pen right now in france you were just you knocked out of the debates for jesu and romania arrested yeah uh for running on a populist position the most popular politician in the country and he's

arrested because because he's the most popular yeah so they're basically denying people a democratic outlet for their frustrations they're're saying, even you're voting. This country, they stole the 2020 election, obviously. They're basically not allowing people any way to express their views at all. And that seems like a scary thing to do. We can have another freedom convoy in Canada that was very successful. And, you know, that was successful because at the end, we were able to stop these

draconian measures on us with that freedom convoy so maybe something like that can happen a very peaceful protest in canada saying to our politicians enough is enough it can happen yeah who is carney can you explain who mark oh my. He's the leader of the Liberal Party. He was the replacement for Trudeau. He is the globalist in chief. You know, he was, as you know, Tucker, the special envoy on climate action and finance for the UN.

And he wrote a book about climate change and, you know, imposing a carbon tax. But now he's a politician and he knows that it is not popular to impose a carbon tax Canadians are they don't want to pay more taxes anymore so he said I want to impose a carbon tax but he is an part of is part of the elites you know with the UN and the World Economic Forum. And for Canadians right now,

it's like, you know, that's a Trudeau 2.1. But, you know, he looks more competent because he was the governor of the Bank of Canada. Actually, and he believes in printing money out of thin air that we can have deficit and, you know, the Bank of Canada will buy Canadian bonds. And so like they did during COVID-19. I'm waiting for him and Polyev to tell us when they will balance the budget. I know what President Trump is doing in

the US with Doge. We need to do the same in Canada. We need to do the same. And I said that in 2020. We need to have a department of downsizing the government. We need to do that. But he is a big spender. And for him, you know, and Polyev spending money, money that we don't have, it's okay. That is creating inflation. And we are paying the inflation tax in canada right now what kind of support does does carney get from new canadian citizens from immigrants he has a lot of support from the mainstream media now you know the mainstream media is promoting him you know you can read the news in can in Canada since the beginning of the electoral campaign. And Carney, you know, it's always the way that they present Carney in the news. It's always the more favorable way. So that's good for him because now, you know, if you look at the polls, he's doing well, but I don't trust these polls anymore. But with the population, with that narrative, they're looking for somebody that will save the country against President Trump.

The campaign is not between, you know, Carney against Polyev and, you know, they're fighting against each other. No, both of them are fighting against Trump with the tariff and they're fake patriots. They're fake patriots. They mean, that's part of what it is to be Canadian. There is a love of the United States. This is my read as an observer of your country. There's a love of the United States. A lot of Canadians love the United States. But there's also resentment because it's just so big and it's right there. Yeah.

And that resentment is real. I mean, I've always felt it when I'm in Canada. And they're basically, and Trump has allowed them to do this. I mean, just be honest about it. But we must understand what President Trump is doing. You know, the global view of all that. He started with tariffs. That's okay.

It's a way for him to negotiate. We must not do counter tariffs in Canada. But the end goal is to repatriate the manufacturing industry in Canada. But the end goal is to repatriate the manufacturing industry in the U.S. And, you know, he wants to make America great again. He's fighting for you guys, for Americans. I want to do the same in Canada. I'm fighting for Canada.

I'm fighting for Canadians. So it's okay to want to have the manufacturing sector back in the U.S. For us in Canada, we just have to be more productive and lower taxes to businesses, having a more productive economy, a real free trade across the country. There's a way to do that for us to keep investment here in Canada, but our policies are not efficient anymore.

Too many taxes, too many regulations. But what President Trump is doing, the real solution for that and the problem, it's because of your daughter. As you know, Tucker, the dollar is the world's reserve currency.

And because of that, you have the Triffin dilemma. So, you know, your daughter is very strong and other countries need your daughter of that, you have the Triffin dilemma. So, you know, your dollar is very strong, and other countries need your dollar because, you know, for international transaction, to buy oil

and gas, they need your dollars. So you are exporting your dollars, and, you know, your exports are very expensive and not competitive because your dollar is so strong. Exactly. The demand for your dollar is very strong.

And your imports are very cheap. So the way to solve that, to be able to export, is to end the dollar as the world reserve currency. But that would mean a very tough transition. Yes, it does. With inflation, all these dollars will come back to the US and that will create inflation. So we need to end that fiat currency and going back to a gold standard. And that's why I believe gold is coming to US right now.

And I think something will happen. We'll have a monetary reset or something will happen. And here in Canada, we are not in a good position because our central bank, the Bank of Canada, doesn't have any gold reserve. So if we have a new monetary system... You have no gold reserves? No gold reserve. Why? They sold all that. They sold your gold reserve so if we have a new monetary system you have no gold reserves no gold reserve why they sold all that we have sold your gold reserve oh yeah we have a lot of your treasuries

but we don't have any gold no we are the only central banks the only one in western western words who that doesn't have any gold we don't have canada is a huge gold producer. Yes, at least we can produce gold. A lot of gold. You have actually some of the, I think you've got some of the deepest gold reserves in the Canadian mint. Of course, your gold one ounce coins are currency or investment

for people around the world. That's interesting. But our central bank doesn't have any gold. Who thought that was a good idea? I don't know, but they decided to solve that a couple of years ago. And now we are in a very bad situation because I believe that the role of the U.S. dollar will be very different. Something will happen to solve your problem about, you know, the manufacturing sector.

It's a blessing and a curse. No, that's right. Having the world's reserve currency is... And once the war in Ukraine started and sanctions were used as a weapon, the dollar was used as a weapon, it was the end of the long term. It was the beginning of the end of the US dollar.

Yeah, the de-dollarization is coming and it's happening right now. So, it's a question of time. But I understand that President Trump wants to do the transition, but it will hurt, it will be difficult. Yes, it will. And I, you know, I agree with him about his end goal to have manufacturing sector back in the US. I want the same in Canada. And so we must have real good economic policies. And the way to solve that, we have our Bank of Canada did the same thing like the Fed during COVID-19.

We printed a lot of money. Now we have that inflation. And I'm the only politician who's saying we need to have a zero inflation target with the Bank of Canada. Our Bank of Canada has a target of 2% inflation every year. 20% inflation, Tucker, is bad. 2% inflation is bad. We need to have zero inflation like that. Everybody will keep their purchasing power. And so, and if you want to have that, you need to have a balanced budget. So we balance the budget in first year. We tell the Bank of Canada a zero inflation target. We have surplus and all the surplus must go to lower taxes to Canadians and, you know, a flat tax on business, no more capital gains tax. That's our proposal for Canadians to have a better and a more productive economy.

Poliev won't speak about that. Carney won't speak about that. But we need to tackle that. President Trump is doing that right now. He's trying to do that right now. There's a cost to that. But at least he's not kicking the can down the road like everybody did before him. If you have debt levels at the level that Canada does, certainly in the United States, much bigger debt than Canada's, the government needs inflation.

Yeah. The government creates inflation because that's the only way to get out of the debt, right? Yeah. No one says that. No. This is like a product of choices that our policymakers consciously make in order to, you know, inflate down the debt. Yeah, but that's what happened after the Second World War. In Canada, you know, we had in the 1940s, we had 10 years of inflation to pay for the debt that we had after the war. So now, you know, not only the US, Canada and all Western countries,

you know, have huge debt, huge deficit. So something will happen. So, and, you know, we will have to reevaluate gold. We may have a kind of a gold standard, but inflation is bad for the population. It's good for government because they can print money and, you know, giving us a lot of gifts with, you know, paying for a lot of programs. But, you know, that is

creating inflation. And now you have inflation in the US and we have inflation in Canada and we may have that inflation for the next five, ten years. That's a way to deal with the debt. And I'm saying that, you know, the deficit of today or the taxes of tomorrow or the inflation of tomorrow. So the inflation is coming, is there, and it is coming. And when you have inflation, what will happen after that? Interest rate, they will have to go up. So we are in a very difficult situation, Canada and US and other Western countries right now.

So that's why what Trump is doing by all these tariffs is asking all these countries, come and have a negotiation. But I believe the negotiation won't be on tariffs. It will be of a new monetary order. We need that. I think that's right. And it's inevitable. We're getting it. Dedoalorization is real. And again, it's just inexorable. You can't stop it.

So it does seem big picture if you're just looking at the world. A lot of these conflicts are about resources, like physical things, oil and gas, iron ore, bauxite, grain, gold, I mean, right? Uranium. Canada has a lot of, not all, but a lot of those things, some of the deepest deposits in the world, water. Canada has massive

amounts of fresh water. So, I'm wondering what's happening to all your resources. Is anyone paying attention? I mean, because China needs the resources to fuel its manufacturing. Asian, broadly speaking, Asian needs those resources. Are they still under Canadian control? It's a good question because China tried to buy some of our resources a couple of years ago. And at least the federal government did stop that. So yes, it is under our control. But the problem is not who is controlling our natural resources.

It's we are not able to exploit them with our regulations and taxes. The last 10 years, the Trudeau government told, you know, the industry, the mining industry, and, oh, you know, oil and gas, we need to get rid of that. It's not clean, and we cannot export that. So he put a lot of regulations. We cannot have pipeline. We cannot export our natural resources. No pipelines.

And that's the problem. It's the regulations. And the fact that the federal government is doing everything to stop the exploitation of all natural resources. Trudeau did everything to do that, and he was successful. So now we don't have any pipelines, and so we are sending our oil and gas to you guys, to the U.S., at a discount because we cannot have access to other markets. So good for you, but bad for us. So we need to do that.

And this country, Canada, can be a great country if we have the right policies. So, I mean, it's very obvious that climate change has been going on since the beginning of time, right? We had glaciers, now we don't, etc., etc. The climate is always changing natural uh phenomenon are responsible for the overwhelming amount of that change not human activity like that's just science yeah anyone says otherwise a freaking liar yeah over 90 is caused by yeah and we need more co2 exactly but like a country like russia which is slightly more rational than the west i would say looks at climate change and says well wow this is good for us because we're a really cold country and huge parts of our country are inaccessible because of cold.

And if it gets warmer, that's like good for us. That would be especially true for Canada. There are whole parts of Canada. I mean, Canada is like much bigger than the United States and everyone in Canada is 50 miles from the U.S. border. Like, why wouldn't like Hudson Bay be a, I mean, there's so much opportunity in climate change in Canada is 50 miles from the US border. Why wouldn't Hudson Bay be a... I mean, there's so much opportunity in climate change in Canada. Does anyone ever say that?

But no, it's bad. It's bad climate change. But how is it bad if you're Canada? I don't really get that. No, it is not bad. But for them, it is so bad that we must fight that. And it's so bad that we think that we can control the climate. It's crazy.

We humans can control the climate by regulation and things like that. It's so complex that we cannot. But there's no climate emergency. Can you understand that? Well, but also, we can't control the climate. Yeah, we can't. You're right about that. Right, because we're not God.

Canada was a religious country. Even when I was a kid, the French Canadians were very religious. They built all through the northern New England. There are all these temples, cathedrals built by Catholics. Yeah. Big time. And now they're all empty, sadly. And those cities are all African.

But anyway, there was a time when Canada was a very religious country. Now it seems like one of the most non-religious atheist countries in the world. Is that your... But we are not promoting our history as a country with that multiculturalism act. You know, you can come here and keep your culture and don't integrate to our society. But that being said, in our constitution, it is written in our constitution that this country has been built on the supremacy of God and the rule of law.

That's part of our constitution. But yes, actually, the, we, freedom of religions exists in our country and I'm okay with that. But I hope that we can promote our history. You know, this country, Canada, has been built, we know, with settlers from France,

from the UK, and with indigenous people. But the new immigrants who are coming here, they don't know the history of this country. You know, I'm traveling across the country and I deliver a speech and they told me, Maxime, you're an immigrant also. I'm not an immigrant. I'm a settler. You know, my descendants are French. You know, I didn't come to this country 20 years ago. You know, my roots are deep in this country, in Canada. So we need to, that's why we need to stop that mass immigration and promote our history, our values, our culture. What does your license plate say in Quebec? Je me souviens. What does that mean?

I remember. I remember. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We need to remember. But you don't remember, it seems like. No, we don't. So, last question.

How does this, I mean, it does seem like any country, ours definitely, U.S. definitely included, reaches a tipping point with population where there are just too many people who have no roots in the country that have different alien agendas and it basically becomes unmanageable and there's sort of no turning back.

The country can never be what it was. You can't make it great again. How far is Canada from that? I'm looking in the UK right now, what's happening there and in France, we are not there, but we are near. I said 10 years ago, we need to have a maximum of 100, not 10 years, eight years ago, we need to have a maximum of 150 000 immigrants a year they didn't and at that time i was a racist because i was speaking like that but now i was not and you know and now i'm saying we need to have that moratorium because you know we had mass immigration but if we don't stop in in 10 years i told you, you know, 1.97% of our population, the growth of our population is coming from immigration. If we have that two, three or five years more, you know, trouble will be on the street more often than they are right now. So answering your question, Tucker, we are near. We are near that, you know, we may lost our country. And that's why I'm saying, you know, I want to save this country

and we, the people's party, are the only hope for this country. Let's stop that mass immigration, have time to integrate all these people. And, you know, we will be able to regain our country. But if we don't do that, I'm scared. I'm scared be able to regain our country. But if we don't do that, I'm scared. I'm scared for the future of our country. Well, your Canadian refugees are always welcome here. I mean it. I'm going to continue my defense of Canada as a really...

And you have a nice weather. Yeah, I like cold weather. So I love Canada. Maxim, thank you very much. Thank you, Parker. I appreciate it. That was fun. We want to thank you for watching us on Spotify,

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