The Tucker Carlson Show - New Underwater UFO Sightings and the Non-Human Tech the Government Is Hiding | Rep. Tim Burchett

Episode Date: October 10, 2025

Rep. Tim Burchett wants the government to tell the truth about UFOs, and stop insider trading in Congress. He hasn’t had much luck with either one. (00:00) What Is the UAP Phenomenon? (11:15) Why Is the US Government Lying About UFOs? (25:32) Non-Human Technology and Underwater UFOs (44:22) Will Donald Trump Declassify UFO Documents? (48:39) Insider Trading Is Out of Control (1:11:35) Has Burchett Been Threatened in Congress? (1:13:40) Will America’s Debt Be Our Downfall? Paid partnerships with: Cozy Earth: Luxury shouldn't be out of reach. Go to https://CozyEarth.com/Tucker for up to 20% off. GCU: Find your purpose at Grand Canyon University. Learn more at https://GCU.edu Eight Sleep: Get $350 off the new Pod 5 Ultra at https://EightSleep.com/Tucker SimpliSafe: Visit https://simplisafe.com/TUCKER to claim 50% off a new system. There's no safe like SimpliSafe. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Thank you, Congressman, for doing this. I never talk about... It's Tim. Thank you, Tim. Never talk about UFOs. We don't do shows on the UFOs, UAPs, whatever they're calling them, these mysterious lights, these objects.

Because I know for a dead certain fact that there is an ongoing, 70-year ongoing disinformation campaign by the U.S. government to sow confusion. Some people participating in that effort, I don't think they know they're participating in the effort, but they are nevertheless selling lies

in an effort to get people off the trail of what this really is. There is something going on. What is it? It's so hard to know. You're one of the few people, from my perspective, who seems sincere. You're also informed as a member of Congress. And so I'm just grateful that you're doing this because I think you're going to be telling the truth. So what are these things?

Well, I don't know. I think there's a lot of different misconceptions about them. And I kind of came into it organically, I guess. I had pretty cool parents. They would just take me to the library and just let me stay. Or I'd ride my bike over and stay. couple hours, and grew up in the 70s in Tennessee, and, you know, I guess now you'd probably taken to DCS or something for that. But, you know, I went in there, and I can remember there was

a stack of books on a thing, and, you know, they had all the, you know, something on, maybe the occult or something like that, and then Bigfoot, and then there's something on UFOs. And I picked up the UFO books, started reading about it, and it just fascinated me. And I, and I read the Bible. I'm a Christian. I'm not a very good one, obviously, by my chosen profession. But, you know, the Bible talks about Ezekiel saw the wheel. And people always say, well, that was a dream. And they always try to over-explain things in the Bible. And I just think it's written for simple folks like me.

I agree with that. And it was a translation, though. And at the time, the most technologically advanced item that they had was a wheel. And it describes a wheel within a wheel. Exactly. It describes a landing gear and all these other things. that we would today say our modern-day flying saucers. And it's pretty specific, and it's a pretty, the Ezekiel passage you're referring to is,

it's not just like a parenthetical note. It's like a whole description. Oh, yeah, he goes into it. He describes, I think the landing area in some translations, it talks about it being hooves of animal, like the hoof of an animal, which if you see, you know, you see when we went to the moon, that there's the landing gear, you know, it's got a pad if we actually went to the moon.

I know there's a lot of people there don't believe it. I'm arching my eyebrows, but we're afraid from comment. Yeah, yeah. But the, but, but so I'm laying on my couch. Pass forward, I'm in Congress. I'm laying on my couch and I'm getting ready to go to sleep. I sleep in my office and shower in the gym. I'm not, as my banker says, he called me one day and said,

he said brother you're um he said i'm pretty sure that you're the most honest member of congress but i know you're the poorest so so i i do that and um and so i was watching there was a thing on UFOs and they were talking about um some former members were involved in some stuff trying to find out something and i thought you know i'm going to start asking some questions and then i'm walking down the street and the center of all media in Washington DC TMZ his name's Colin he's a good friend of mine. We've been to lunch and hang out some, but he, he stopped me, and I didn't know who he was. And he said, hey, I'm with TMZ. He said, what do you think about this UFO report that's getting ready come out? And I said, brother, it'll look like it was shot with a shotgun

because it'll be, it would be all redacted. And then, and I said, and if it, and it won't come out when they say it's going to come out. And I said, really why? And I said, well, probably because the original report is probably going to have something in it and they're going to pull it back. And sure enough, they did. And it was heavily redacted and it was just a big fluff piece, nothing. And then I said the magic words which end up putting on one of my t-shirts, which I sell on my website, that more people believe in UFOs than believe in Congress.

And for good reason. And for a great reason. And so people started calling me, you know, all these national figures that you see reporters, legitimate reporters like yourself, people from all over the country. And so I start asking questions. And I get with Luna and some other folks. Matt Gates was involved in it at the time. And we went to the chairman and said, let's have a hearing. And I think they really, Tucker, I think they just patted us on the head and said, sure, we'll have the hearing, you know, and they're going to make fun of you and go on.

Turned out, I talked to some old timers that were there, reporters. They said that was the most attended hearing they'd ever had. They had to open up another room, and there were people lined up down the hall. When I walked out at, I see it was, I guess in the morning I walked out to office, had to be on an early show about it. At 4.30 in the morning, people were already lined up outside the building. And they come from all of the country. one guy came on his vacation and there was ministers there there's people so it really touched a nerve

and um you know hoping for disclosure that's exactly right the truth and they're tired of being told very idiots and you know and the funny thing about it all is is that when i go to speak to groups it never fails that somebody of prominence of prominence will come a doctor a lawyer a PR person will come up to me and say hey i had a experience i was sitting at a i was helping out of college I rarely go out of town. This is kind of unusual for me. This is kind of an interesting deal for me up here. But I went to another congressman's district to help him run for re-election.

We were sitting in a country club, and I'm not a country club or type, as you can probably tell. Jackie Gleason said, I wouldn't join a country club, but I'd have somebody like me, and I'm sort of like that way. And I sit next to this lady, and she was classy. You could tell she was old money. She wasn't new money. She had nice jewelry on, and she had the clothes you could tell were nice. And she was just a classy lady, and she said, she said, Carson, about those UFOs?

And I thought, well, here it comes. You know, I'm going to get popped. And she said, I had an experience when I was in college. She said, she talked about going to pick up her brother. And this thing followed them down for several months. minutes you know it was a cylindrical shaped um and it followed them it was i think it was close to dark and it was kind of lit up it had a i think a bluish tent to it or something and it flew it followed them for quite some time and then it just took off and they were like what in the world was that and they you know

this was in the 70s and um and she said i really haven't really told me many people that and i get stories like I had a, and when they film you, when I was early on in Congress, I had plenty of time, obviously, it'd be in the 435th most powerful member of Congress. And, you know, these history channel, all these folks would come interview me. And they would do it one time they interviewed me for like an hour. So they would take segments of that and put that out for just multiple issues, you know, of their TV show, hunting UFOs or whatever. And I remember I was in Nashville at the time and a colleague, a former state,

legislator, a guy was in leadership, called me up. And I remember he, and it was kind of ironic that he was back, back in East Tennessee, and I was in Nashville for a get-together. I was throwing for our state legislators, because nobody ever, when I was in legislature, nobody ever did anything for us from Congress. And I just get down there and throw him a spaghetti dinner or something, you know. And the phone rang, and it was him. And he said, Timbo, he said, I just saw you on TV on the UFO show. And I said, really? And I thought, here it comes. He's. going to pop me. He said, let me tell you a story about when I was in the Navy. And he was older. He was hollering back at his wife. What year was that? And she would holler. I think it was

in the late 50s. And he was on a, I believe it's a tin can, but that's a destroyer. Probably no more. But anyway, he was in the Navy. And he said they were, it was early on when they were first putting nuclear missiles on subs. They were unloading a missile for the sub. And he said, the sub got out there, and then this thing just flew over the top of them. He said, remember you said, Timbo, if that thing was two city blocks, it was, and it had to be two city blocks wide. He said it was cylindrical, and he named it, and he described it. And then he said it, um, he said, and he just took off, no noise, no heat, no vapor, nothing.

And they all just stood there and we're talking, and they're going, what the heck was that? Yeah. You know, and then they just. get back on shore, they go back to shore, and he said that, you know, the men in the city, he said, I figured it was CIA or something. And they said, if y'all don't, is this national security? If you ever talk about this, you'll be busting rocks for the rest of your life, if you're lucky. Well, there's nothing like ending the day by the fire, book in your hand, dogs at your feet, cup of coffee at your side. I can tell you it works. And what makes it better is cozy earth.

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people around the world? So many people, as you just said, have had the experience of seeing them in person. Why would they have an interest in hurting those people, calling them crazy, threatening them, et cetera. So tell us about your experience as you've pushed for more disclosure. What kind of reaction have you received? I think the arrogance from the federal government, there's a control thing that you see in every aspect of government. Everybody in power wants to keep you out of their little circle of power. Yeah, of course. And I think the monetary concern is there. Could you imagine

if they had something that would could heat homes in the summer in the winter and cool them in the summer and had zero cost? I mean,

it's something that we could it would put everybody out of business. The war pimps at the Pentagon would have to go out of business. We wouldn't have to be in wars all over the world

which are if you get down to it, it's about oil. It's always about all. And so you've got the greed factor, you got the power factor, and then you've got just the arrogance. The Bible talks about professing themselves to be wise that became fools. That's right. And there's nobody in Washington that doesn't think they're wise.

I wonder, though, I mean, for sure. So you think this is an effort to hide the existence of superior technology because it's a threat to existing industry? I think that's part of it. And also, but it's like this. We're motorcycle guys. say if I took a say I took a brand new Indian

or Harley Davidson down to back in time to the Mayflower or whatever and gave it to them you know they would maybe shine it they wouldn't know how to do anything of course we don't have carburetors they wouldn't know how to do anything with fuel injection

they probably couldn't ever make the fuel high enough octane where it'd kick it off they maybe could get it started if they got lucky at some point but that would be a rarity I think that's sort of if there is something that they can't they don't know what it is and I think too they have compartmentalize this stuff so you think for you

I'm going to freedom of information everybody says we just freedom of information at Birchick go to area 51 there's nothing at area 51 they've moved it to right pad or something else since then but the point is is that everybody in government is looking down the barrel or looking in their little area and to their knowledge most of those people are telling the truth and they send it off there's five or six corporations that it's been in it's been disclosed in in hearings that we think probably has some of this technology but it has been so compartmentalized the people i mean

there's nobody alive that was around when in roswell 47 and incidents that happened in texas and others all over the all over the world and so they don't really know what they're looking at they're looking at something and they've they've associated it or given it to these corporations that have a quasi-governmental connection, but they're far enough apart where I can't go for you. I can't go foyer forward. I mean, I could, but they're just going to tell me, go jump in the lake.

I'm not going to tell you. But I guess I'm stumbling over kind of the most basic claim that they make, which is that all this information is classified. Yep. On what grounds could the federal government justify classifying reports of things that it's servicemen have seen? Every time it's national security, Tucker. does that mean? I don't know, but they, but you have a group of people that are so afraid of the

industrial war machine that funds their campaigns. So you go to these, you look at all the people that, that, that stop when I have a disclosure bill, I just want to know. I'm not saying they're out there, but we're spending tens of millions. Every department, FBI, CIA, I'm pretty sure TVA doesn't, but they probably should, but there's probably every, every alphabet agency in the country has a wing that's investigating these things. NASA. They are all doing it. They're all doing it. They'll admit that they're looking at something, but then you come to them, they say they don't exist, but we need the money to do it. And now the interesting thing is...

And that's in the budget. Oh, yeah. And now the interesting thing is that they've seen that the opinion polls are showing that over half the people in the country believe something else is going on. Of course. And so now they're saying, hey, we need money to study this. I mean, it's the cat going after its tail, really, and it's just a circular thing that they just after money,

and they don't really care. Of course. They don't, that's for sure. But there is a process by which the Congress demands disclosure, and that process has been thwarted. And I'm just interested in getting details on how that happened. So the UAP Disclosure Act of 2023, I think. Yeah.

Required disclosure. That passed, right? allegedly. But again, who's going to enforce it? So, but what did that, do you remember what that act required? It is, I do not believe it passed. The one that I'm thinking about did not pass in the Senate because, you remember I had the bill, it was two pages long for disclosure. What did it say? And then it just said, if it dealt with UAP's UFOs, it disclosed it. If a file contains it, America has the right to see it, unredacted. And Chuck Schumers was several hundred pages long and it was celebrated by everybody and it set up a commission very similar to the

Kennedy assassination which here we are you know 60 plus years later and still you know they're telling us this single bullet that was and you're a gunman that they found on a gurney that was basically unscratched you know an hour and a half after the assassination in in the hospital at Lakeland after going through two bodies after two bodies and bone and everything else and it doesn't it just but so but schumer's solution was we needed a warren commission to tell us yeah who can decide and that basically would just cover it up and i trust america so why would of course of course there's but why would chuck schumer do that like what's his motive do you have any idea i think his staffers drew up the bill and i think honestly in their in their mind they probably

thought it was the right thing but here's my thing about staffers everybody wants to talk about, you know, the swamp. And I always go through this. A swamp is something pretty cool. God created a swamp. I grew up frog gigging and fishing around swamps. They're pretty cool. They attract animals for good reason.

And so Washington, D.C. is not a swamp. It is a man-made creation. Now, figure this, you've got a staffer. And Republicans, we're supposed to be less government. government. I look at these, we get these pictures made every year, every couple years. I don't know why. I've never seen the picture. I'm not going to hang it up in my dad and gum office of your committee, you know, and all the people on the committee and then all the staffers behind it. I counted one time on ours, I think it was close to one of my committees, close to 50 people. And I guess for the Democrats,

we get 49 people. You know, we're supposed to be less government. So you have a staffer, say that that is, and the committees are just too big. And too many of these chairman, the biggest, stake they make is we're going to be different. We're going to be different. And what do they do? They keep almost every dead gum staffer. And the staffer is already plugged in with the lobbyists with the K Street crowd. And they're the ones probably getting a little trip somewhere, maybe going out for a steak dinner, going out for drinks, and they're compromised. And so I can't tell you how many times I've seen a good bill become a study bill. I completely agree. Except in most cases, it's like obvious why industry would want to subvert the legislation. Like, they don't

want the regulation. They don't want competition. You know, there are a lot of different obvious reasons. And you sort of see how the staffs are paid off. I get it. But UFOs, like, is there a UFO lobby? Like, who wants that? Who's paying for that? I think, and why? I think you've got major technology corporations, aeronautics, some of our missile defense people for some reason they do not want this released that's very weird because whatever's going on is clearly or would seem to be a threat to them well look at the look at the little control your airspace which we don't right why is that not a problem for rathion look at the financial disclosure of the people that always fight me on these bills that's what i would tell you to do and if we were to do that

i can think of one you see the names of a couple of those with those a couple of those corporations So it's defense contractors are the bottom line is, I think what you're saying, is the defense contractors, for some reason, we can only speculate, don't want this information disclosed. That's correct. Well, that's a very powerful lobby, of course. It's one of the most powerful ones. That's why we're sending $600 million to Ukraine and the national defense authors, which I didn't vote for. I wanted to give our military more money, military fighting men more than my money, but I didn't want to give the war pimp. any more reason to Ukraine or any of these other wars we're in.

No. And the interesting thing about the $600 million, I was told by our leadership and in a conference that the president had requested that. And then I talked to the White House and guess what? The president had not requested that. That's right. Just $600 million so, Barchit. What's that?

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you know, where Nixon, um, was overthrown and, and somebody comes up to me in the hallway in a crowded hallway, somebody who I would be consider a friend and said, Burchett, man, you really don't need to be doing this stuff, don't you? Man, you're kicking the hornets nest on this thing. On the UFO stuff? Yeah, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And I've had them try to use it against me in campaigns and things, but, you know, they don't, we don't ever raise enough money to matter anyway. Use against you in campaigns. Yeah, the whisper campaign or they put it out on the internet. Burchett's, you know, all he cares

about it says no i just care about where's the tens of millions of dollars going i have a right to know well also like this is the biggest story in our in human history yeah i would think i mean like what is that are we alone yeah clearly not and so you're satisfied just to get to basics here quickly you're satisfied that whatever we're seeing in the skies and have since at least the second world war since at least the development of nuclear weapons yeah since hiroshima whatever that is is not foreign military. No, because here it is. If it was Russian, I mean, honestly,

Putin, with his ego, he would ride bare-chested down in Pennsylvania Avenue, get out of UFO, you know, wrestle a bear on the front porch of the White House and get back to his hero. I mean, he wouldn't be bogged down in Ukraine. If it was China, they would own us. They clearly, partially

own us now. And if it's America, you wouldn't see Trump standing on an aircraft carrier and a jet flies by and breaks a sound barrier and everybody freaks thinks that's the coolest thing. I mean, it would be something a lot cooler than that. And so I just don't think we have that technology or we're able to utilize it. So in the course of your probing into this, no one has ever taken you aside and said, hey, Birchett, back off a little bit.

This is our stuff. We don't want to disclose it. Pretty close to that. Pretty close to that. But you don't believe it. you don't think this is our technology. No, I do not. There's no way.

It is our technology. I've talked to too many pilots. Why would we risk our best, I mean, I've talked to the best pilots in the world that are ours, some of them, not all of them, that have told me. I mean, one guy, I remember I was at the Capitol Hill Club, it was just an unusual encounter. A guy had spoke to a group, and he followed me out and said, you know, Tim, they're a copy. Congressman or whatever. He said, he said, that thing was 14 feet. He went like this from my canopy. And I thought to myself, why didn't he say 15? Why didn't he say 20? But he said 14. And then he just, he said this thing, it wasn't ours. He said, I don't know what it was,

but it wasn't ours. And that's all he said. And I had a very high-ranking member of the Navy described some underwater experiences they'd had was something that was doing 200 miles. And the best thing we got, it's probably 40. He was doing 200 miles an hour underwater. Underwater, big as a football field, and that's no fish. So is it possible, given our current understanding of physics, for any man-made machine to go anywhere near 200 miles an hour underwater? Not with our technology, no.

The best we have is probably in the high 30s. And he was converting, and of course, knots is what the Navy guys would do, but there's nothing. If I fire a 30-0-6 or any high-calibre rifle underwater, It doesn't go 200 miles an hour. I can probably catch it in the length of a swimming pool or so. Yeah, or it just falls down. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

And it's like. So we've got, and this was described to me in areas, and I was quoted on. I mean, I was just quite, all I do is quote people that are, that are, that have knowledge. But this was one that was, he was talking about, there are five or six, I think, deep water areas of the ocean. You've traveled a lot. I have not. There's not a lot of deep water areas around East Tennessee at Fort Loudoun Lake or anything, but, you know, talking miles deep.

And, of course, you've heard this before. We know more about the surface of the moon than we do the surface of the ocean. And he said, these are areas where we see a high propensity of these UFOs. And there was a case where it was fairly well documented. They had multiple sightings. They were doing maneuvers and had the ships or boats, So what do you want to call them out there? I'm not a Navy guy.

And there was the sighting in the air, and the pilots radioed back and said, hey, is there something going on? Is there another operation? We got some secret technology stuff we're working on. I said, we don't have any. And they, you know, Pentagon, nobody, nobody knew about anything. And they pulled it back, and then they pulled everything back, scrub the mission. And then the next day, all their internet traffic had been scrubbed.

but this guy was kind of a wonk, and he'd made copies of it. But, you know, the point I have there is, why would we risk multi-million dollar apparatus? And why would we put something in the air around our best pilots that could have a crash? Because these guys are talking about there's actually, you know, they've come close to collisions. Why would they do that?

They would not do that. That would be stupid. I mean, there's even, you know, I always say military intelligence, like congressional. ethics. I don't think it really exists much anymore. But anyway, I just don't think that we'd be risking that. So that's my proof that it's not ours. So how many military personnel have you spoken to about their personal experiences with

these things? I'd say, well, I don't know, eight or nine, ten maybe. You know, but I have to be real careful because I'm clearly somebody out there and I'm not backing down on it. I'm not ashamed of it or anything but i don't you've no reason to be ashamed of it no why would you be ashamed well that's what they try to do is they try to shame people oh are you are you are you are you are you are you are you aren't they ashamed well i have to be careful about the white flags the stuff they bring stuff bring people bring me that's not real you know that's why we're talking to you yeah well that's i've had a lot of people come to me with stuff like that yeah and i've got these pictures and i want to show you this i've got this you know i'm always afraid i'm going to end up on a in a refrigerator up in north carolina

or a freezer in north carolina somewhere you know because i i'm not going up there and checking out some guys finds he's got you know and i but but do you so i think so i think what you're saying is the disinformation campaign run by whomever maybe it's real well it's definitely real uh and i assume it's run by the u.s government or it's satellites and the defense contractors but part of the way that they discredit people who are interested in finding out what this is is by telling them false things and then they tried to destroy their careers they did that to one of our guys one of the very first person uh the first hearing we had if you remember some weekly newspaper reporter found out that one of the guys suffered from PTSD for it covers

his military career. You know what? In Tennessee, we embrace that. My daddy put on Pelin, Okinawa, and to the day he died, I never woke him up over the top of him. I always woke him up by his big boat because he might have woke up on one of those dad-gum islands and pinned me up against the wall. And so, and we celebrate our heroes. But Washington, D.C. just destroys them. And to think that a weekly newspaper found out this guy's medical history, which is a total violation of the law, somebody should go to jail for it, but nobody. did. They tried to destroy this guy. And that's, and, you know, that's what happens to people in Washington, D.C. That's what happens to our military heroes when they step out of line because of

the sewer or deep state or whatever you want to call it. But that, that's what they, and that's why we need real whistleblower protection for them. Well, I agree with that completely, which we don't have. No. And by the way, I know two whistleblowers who are living outside the country because they can't come to the United States. Sure. And I'll have people actually, I've had people call me. One last thing. I'm in a Longworth building. It's no secrets, public record. But I've had people that'll call me or send a message to me and want to come by

and they won't come in that building and ask me if I can come outside. I've had people call me and want to come to the house in East Tennessee and because they don't want to come to Washington, D.C. And talk to me. There's a well-publicized television show that was on for a while

that I didn't know they were coming. I mean, they said some people wanted to talk to me, and it was a trusted friend, and I said, sure, send them, bring them up to come on up to D.C., and I said, well, they don't want to come to D.C. And they drove from wherever to my house in East Tennessee on a Saturday afternoon, and then they put some stuff on a screen that was pretty compelling. What was it? It was aircraft flying at just crazy stuff. that we can't do that would turn you or me into basically a catch-up package. It was not... No human being could handle the G-force.

No, not at our... Well, with the technology we have, the G-Force would just have just torn them apart. And, you know, was it unmanned or whatever? I don't know. But these guys, and one of them was a... Well, they were scientists. Several of them were scientists.

And there's... They came to see you. They came to see me. Yeah, because it's kind of... Wait, so what do you? do with that information? I try to grasp it within my very small brain. And what am I supposed to do with that? I ask God all the time, what do you want me to do with this stuff, Lord? And right now, I'm just got to get enough disclosure. I've come to the realization that

nothing is ever going to happen, Tucker, until we have somebody in the White House that says enough is enough and just discloses it. And I hope President Trump, you know, I have discussions with him privately in other times that I'm not I've talked to his people but at some point there's several of us Luna and myself and several others that are concerned about this issue and we want some answers we've got none we've got none zero right zero so you have definitely heard about eight sleep by now people are talking about the well-rested people you know we're talking about it it's a company with one mission improve your sleep and is changing the way Americans get a good night's sleep, and trust me, they need it.

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They outrun the clock. They, you know, we either stumble. One of us gets in trouble, or they get us in trouble, or they lose, or they move on to another object, you know, another shiny object somewhere else. Americans want their pizzas in 30 minutes or less, and that's about Congress's attention.

span you know because we're always on one and then it's the hot issue and then the news cycle changes two weeks later on to something so you guys are often members of congress are often briefed in skiffs you know it's a secure location that they immediately go and call CNN until you know everyone was at the but if a member of Congress received quote classified information about uap's and then immediately held a press conference and said here's what I just heard and saw and yes I'm breaking the law but like tough shit why don't you do something about it what would happen i don't know they say they can imprison us but i don't they you know that's what we're told at the beginning we're not even supposed to discuss some people will tell you you can't even tell them that you've been in a skiff

but the press is waiting for you as soon as you walk out who told who says that leadership of the oh yeah leadership yeah and they'll and they've been in a skiff before where they'll say anything discussed in here we remind you as punishable by law and you know it's a felony but the problem you get in there a lot of times it's the arrogance and the lies that are told to us they contradict i mean i i i they'll contradict what another department has said and they'll say this does this didn't happen this doesn't exist and another one will say this is one we don't know but we can't figure out there's just no answer it defies all of our reason and these are the briefs from various federal agencies that you're talking and they're generally arrogant you know there's one kid with a man bun

I always remember him. He was very arrogant. And then I asked him about some specific instances. You know, there's one where we had a nuclear facility, something Buzz did, and actual facility shut down. Famously, yeah. Documented. And he...

In the Dakotas, I think. Yeah, I can't remember exactly. I read so many of these things. And he said, I remember he said, we have no data points on that. And I thought, and I said, dude. It's in all, Google it. It's everywhere. And, you know, I just, I get very frustrated, Tucker.

A lot of times I go to these classified briefs. And probably the reason you go to a classified briefing is you get information, which I'm sure that's where a lot of the stock trading goes on. But I think they bring you in and tell you stuff you already knew so you can't even talk about it. I think it's a trap. I don't, that's why I don't go to a lot of classified briefings, because, again, I can just pick it up on the street right after they walk around. But the Congress funds the agency.

agencies that are briefing you. That's correct. So you could say to the man bun kid, you know, son, I pay your salary. Yeah. So maybe you. Well, it's during the Biden administration. So I was a little bit out of. Well, I mean, at this point, Republicans control the Congress. So like, allegedly. I don't understand. I just, I'm honestly baffled as to why. Too many. There's too many. It crosses both lines. I think, you know, that money runs deep. And they contribute a lot to a lot of people. So of the issues and some are well-known, I won't even bring them up here, but they're very well-known, that have bipartisan consensus, you know, like both parties agree on this issue. You would say UAPs are one of those. I would say they are. I mean, AOC's in there. I mean, they're all in there. You know, it's just- Does AOC show any interest in this topic? She does. She does. I think, you know, she's concerned like everybody else, where's the tens of millions of dollars going. And I'm sure she could think about it. what the hell are these things that's like an even deeper concern yeah the money's fake we just make

it yeah we just print it yeah but it's well we've had you know what are they we've had sworn testimony where they'll tell you they'll say um yeah i've seen beings there's a movie coming out and and hold them and the testimony says this is sworn testimony they've they've uh their beings and there's there's uh saucers or some craft or something But there's a movie coming out pretty soon, if it's ever allowed to come out. I was in it a little bit. And then you have former members of the CIA. You have others that positively say they were there.

And they identified these things. They diagnosed them and they saw them. They saw the craft. And, you know, there's enough people out there saying it, but they're just so suppressed. And the media moves on so fast on something. And, you know, I've been on some. so many of these interviews, and they're playing the theme from some crazy TV show or something before I come on, you know, and they're just making a joke out of it. And I get it. People want

to laugh about it. I don't get it at all. Yeah. I mean, I get the fact. It seems like an absolutely I mean, I just want to humiliate me. It's a deadly serious topic, objectively speaking. And if it's a national defense issue, it's everything. It's everything. I mean, it's not a national. It's a world defense issue. It's a lot more serious than Black Lives Matter or any other nonsense that we've become obsessed with over the past generation. So, yeah, there's, I mean, that tells you right there, that's part of an operation designed to discredit people who ask questions, right? Yeah. And I've had, I've had military personnel call me and tell me that they've chased these things. They've been in the water. I had one guy tell me a story. He was an officer. And he was,

in the water fishing off um i think it was on the east coast and this huge craft flew over the flew over them and then these several jets were flying trying to keep up with it and he identified the jets because he was obviously an air force officer and um and he said look i i just want you to continue on this thing you're not a lot of people have seen stuff and he said i have and you know and And I mean, he had a distinguished career, but it just continues on and on and on. And it gets, you know, we get patted on the head and say, okay, you can have another hearing and then we do it. But until somebody in the White House says disclose or somebody walks out of one of these labs with something and shows it and puts it on YouTube before he's allowed to commit suicide, I think you're going to, that's the only way we're going to get to the bottom of it. It will never.

It's so deep. The layers of the onions or onion is so deep. You just keep peeling it off and it's just a different person, a different story. You go over here. And, you know, the naivety of Congress, you have members telling me, well, let's just get a, let's go over here and get a, you know, we'll get a tour of the, of where you think these things are. I was like, dude, once we announce that, you know, the U-Ha vans are already been there and gone, you know, it's not, it's not that way. It's not going to work that way. Congress is not going to walk in there with all its magnificence and arrogance and find something.

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we want this information and we want it by the close of business today or else you're fired, where we're going to send soldiers in and get the information. I don't, why is that hard? I just don't think it's profitable for them. I think there's too much money and it goes too deep. And you have a lot of soldiers, they're not literally soldier, but people just follow orders. And they think, and they said it's national security,

they think it's national security. so it sounds like you have no confidence that this stuff's going to emerge no i have zero confidence on this side of when i get when i leave this earth i'll probably i'll know then but you will instantly instantly but i don't i don't have any confidence in anybody in washington currently i have confidence in trump i really do i think if he's if we can talk to him seriously about this for a short amount of time I think he'll just tell him to jam it we're going to do it

well I mean we had these sightings last year over New Jersey over the whole mid-east coast that the entire country saw and they were on video and we were going to find out what those were and then it was like nah it's totally full we don't need to know

with that like what was that I still think it was it was part of Chinese influence I think when they flew the balloon over. They wanted, it was 50s or 60s technology. They didn't have anything. They weren't, they are, I mean, they got enough spies on the ground in every university and every think tank and every national lab, whatever. They got them there. But they wanted to see what our response was. They saw our political response, which was zero, our military response, which

was zero, and our press response. And the only thing was the people were outraged about it. You know, And then they shot it down off the coast of Myrtle Beach. So you think the drones, the so-called drones over New Jersey last fall were a Chinese operation? Something or something very similar. Somebody experimenting to see what our response would be. Because, you know, you could, you fly an airplane over the country and somebody's going to pick it up. But you fly a drone, they could have small nukes, could have been a biological agent. And I think now they know they could do that, or at least under Biden,

They could. They can't do it under Trump. So if that was the Chinese who did that and the U.S. government did nothing and I think they had contractors here that provided them with that. That's my theory. Any idea as to why the U.S. government want to keep that secret? No idea. Either then the current administration doesn't know because the people that knew are gone. I just think the past administration was smoking mirrors. I mean, Joe Biden, if you ever had any conversations with him, I mean, it was clearly very clueless and it was very scary. If we'd have been in a position,

whoever was calling his shots from the Obama administration scared me a lot. And, of course, they were the puppet masters, I feel like under this, under Biden. And I felt like he and the people around him just ran amok. I mean, you saw it with the... But why not, I don't understand and I'm trying to keep my growing rage under control. Like, why not tell... Well, I'm outraged.

Why not tell the public something true once in a while? Why the constant lying? Because if you're constantly lying, then by definition you're evil and you don't want to think that of your government, especially people you like in government. But like, why can't the public know anything ever? Do you have any theories? Tradition. Tradition. Okay.

I just don't. The more and more I know about government, you know, I've been in this gift before and I've walked out. And I remember one time I called my wife, I said, honey, go to the store and buy canned goods. We're completely wide open. She said, all right, sweetie. So what do we get for a trillion dollars a year to the U.S. military? Do we get anything in return? We got some enhanced stock portfolios, and I'll give you a great example.

When Joe Biden gave our military, or excuse me, our missile defense system, you know, I haven't voted for a penny for Ukraine. I'm proud of that. It's not my dadgum war. I'm not sending my 18-year-old daughter to a country that most members of Congress couldn't find on a dadgum globe. And so you have, we give them our missile defense system, and then we have to replenish ours, we should. We can't be left naked without any of that defense. And guess what? Some of those

contractors we described get a multi, multi-billion with a B dollar no-bid contract. And who do you think has bought stock in that in that company? Members of Congress, two weeks prior to the president making that official notice. And you see it time and time again. I mean, do you honestly believe members of Congress are making five and six? You've met some of these guys. I mean, they can't come in out of the rain some of them. I mean, I'm guilty of that as well, but they're making five and six hundred percent. Yeah, a lot of really damaged return on their, five and six hundred percent return on an investment. And war is great for business.

It's great for, it's great for the economy, but it's not good for, I don't think it's good for our souls. Wouldn't, no, no, there's nothing worse. Killing people is not good. I know that's a controversial statement. Yeah. But why is it impossible as to ban stock trading for members of Congress? That's a great idea. I have the bill to do it.

And that's why, you know, we have a bipartisan group again, myself and Prya Paul and I never get her name right. But Cortez and me and Chip Roy and a bunch of others, you know, we've got a, we've got a bill, but it's not going anywhere. Why? Because too many members of Congress. I mean, we were told by leadership that, you know, these guys can't afford to be here. You know what? If you can't afford to be in Congress and go get another dad-gum job, more. people have played professional baseball in the major leagues in a Benny Ninth Street.

It should be an honor. The idea is they should be allowed to do insider trading, which is a felony because they don't get paid enough. All you got to do is disclose it. And then if you don't disclose it, it's a slap on the wrist. You know, I make skateboards, and it's cheaper than a psychiatrist. I make them out of bamboo and banana fibers and crazy stuff, and it's a great. You make skateboards out of bamboo? I do.

A lot of congressmen. do that? No, I'd say it. One does. I'm pretty safe in betting that. I'd say it's cheaper and a psychiatrist. It's good. But, and I gave one to Tulsi Gabbard and, you know, and it gets views and people, I have people all over the country wanting to buy these things. So I'm a capitalist. I'm thinking, you know, I'd like to sell a few skateboards. I go to the ethics people. I take my DC chief with me and she's very smart. My Knoxville chief is a lady. They're both incredibly smart ladies. So I take the D.C. lady with me, and she's making notes. I mean, you know, I've got to get an attorney involved in this thing. I have to have a business plan.

You want to do insider trading and be a member of Congress. You want to sell skateboards? You better get you a dadgum lawyer. And that's what I'm having to do right now. I mean, I'm building a business plan. But leadership actually said to you, we can't stop insider trading because they need the money. Yeah. And they've, in both parties. I mean, it's one of those, you talk about one of those issues that both parties agree on, both party leadership does. And because they don't want upset the apple cart. And America, that would be such a great thing to show America. Hey, we're going to try to do what's right for once. Do they know how much America hates them? No, every one of them. I always remember in my hometown when they did away with insider trading,

I mean, I'm sorry, not inside trading. They did away with term limits, excuse me. And they were interviewing some of the office holders. I mean, one office holder said, I just don't know if this county is going to exist without us. I don't see how they can go ahead. And I thought it was like, I checked my calendar. Is this April Fools? I thought it was a joke. I thought they were actually kidding, you know? I mean, that is the arrogance.

How do the county do? We're still there. Still there. Yeah. Great bond rating. Wasn't consumed by fire. I was, no, no. Lord didn't come down and crush us like Sodom and Gomorra.

But, you know, but anyway, they've, they continuously fort us. And now we've pushed them now ahead of the treasury, he says, you need to do it. Trump says to do it. And so Lona says, I'm bringing Burchett's bill to the floor. I'm going to do a discharge petition, and we're going to bring it to the floor and get enough members to sign on. I don't know if we can or not, but we're going to try. But here's the thing, Tucker.

We'll pass a bill if we do, if leadership shines on us, and we'll pass a bill, and then it'll be a tough bill, and then the Senate will pass one a little tougher on something we can't agree on. And then we'll say, look at those guys in the Senate. you know, they're 150 years old, they can't, they're so crooked. And they'll say, look at us, we're a bunch of Cretans, you know, we don't know what we're doing. And then it'll go away. And well, we tried.

And that's just the game they're playing. That is a game they play with everything. Either that or it's a study committee. So many bills, and I was talking about that with the staff, you know, they'll get you to do, oh, don't do this bill. Let's do a study bill and then come back next year with all this information. You know, Tucker, have you ever seen that last scene in Raiders of Lost Ark where they're going into that warehouse? You know, it just goes on and on. I'm pretty sure that's where all the study committee bills go to after they pass them

and you put in your local newspaper. Oh, look at this great bill. Because it has the same title, but it doesn't do anything. And then next year you don't pass anything. You don't come back with anything because you've already so-called passed your lame bill. And that warehouse is full of all those reports. Because I've never seen, I've never, ever seen one of those reports after we pass those bills. No, of course not.

I just wonder, though, I mean, the details of this are interesting, but I think the broad outline is already known by the whole public, which is this is fake, and these people are in it for reasons that have nothing to do with the public interest. And I- You know, everybody wants to rail on Pelosi. She's not, if you go on the Unusual Wales website, she's not even in the top 10.

Free insider trading. Yeah. I think she's number 11, but, you know. Yeah, I know some of the people on that list. I do too. I know every dadgum one of them. And there's a list of 100. And my wife always checks it every year. She said, honey, I said, I know, sweetie. I mean, my buddy Tommy Siler manages my $12,000 portfolio. Everybody do like I do. Put it in mutual phone. But I pulled it out last year. This recently just pulled it out so I could pay for my daughter's school, which is what I established it for in the first place. But it's, you know, and when this airs, I'm going to make a lot of enemies. And here's what's going to happen. without a doubt. Maybe not since I'm going to tell you. How can they be mad at you? Pointing out the obvious. Somebody will come down and sit beside me, somebody in leadership or somebody I'm friends with in Congress and say, hey man, some of the guys are really upset with

you on this. I say, well, I'm what? And it's on this, what you said on such and such, and I've said, and this will be a chapter of my book, if I ever write it. And I said, but you know it's the truth, right? And they go, oh, yeah, we know it's the truth. We just wish you wouldn't say it anymore. And I can't tell you many times I've had that conversation. But there's no shame. Like, we've all done bad things. Twelve percent of the population votes, Tucker. They, nobody, listen, it's a game. We need to, people start needing to get their grandkids to educate them how to get on the computer and read these bills that we're passing. And look at the game we're playing with y'all. These 3,000 page spending bills that, you know, fund whatever

you need for your lab or whatever. Then you read down and it's funding. circumcisions in Madagascar. I mean, things like that, literally, drag shows. Or abortion. Or abortion, which is abhorrent. And so, you know, it's just a game. And it's a, and America needs to start paying attention. And Congress, members of Congress, look, people, they always have any more people to vote,

but as long as they're winning, that's what leadership's about in either party is staying in power. It's having the suburban. It's being three deep with security. It's never standing in line at a, at the movie theater or going to a ball game or a concert, you know, it becomes self-preservation. I remember when January 6th happened and I was shocked, I was completely shocked by it.

And I was the last house member to leave the floor on January 6th. Good for you. And I was like, wow, this is, I hate vandalism, whatever. Now I look back and I'm like, I understand exactly why they did that. I'm not mad about it at all. I think that Congress should have taken notice that people are really, really,

mad at Congress and instead they just ignored it and are like no everyone who did it is a is a Nazi and we need more security really that's your takeaway you need more security maybe you need to act in a way that people respect so the country doesn't hate you because you're supposed to be representing the country and the hundred plus federal agents that were intertwined the whole thing was fake obviously I was yeah I don't even get into it yes no I spent a lot of time fighting about this at Fox News when they, you know, people resigned when I said, I think this was like a setup. Oh, I can't work with the Nazi. It turned out to be true. But again, it's a, it's how many years later and nobody cares. Nobody cares. So it's not, I'm sorry to make it about me. I didn't mean to do

that. It's just I'm mad about the topic. But the point is, it's your show, brother. No, no, no, it, no, but it's just, it's about the Congress. And I think you need a legislative body, not against the Congress in theory, what I'm worried about, here's the point that I'm attempting to make in a long-winded way, which is, if you don't pay any attention at all to how people feel about you when your job is to represent those people, that system can't continue. And you're going to get a January 6th, but for real at some point, if you keep acting this way. There will be an armed situation. Like, actually, actually. And a lot of people will applaud it. I'm not rooting for that at all. I'm just saying that's going to happen. Do members of Congress get this? Do they understand how

hated they are? Do they care? I think there's an arrogance associated with being in Congress. I think there's a complete arrogance. I always remember one time I was at a UT football game when I was in the legislature and a former member, well, they're all dead. Most of the people I served with, a lot of them are pulled up, parked illegally, got out of their car and just come strutting across the parking lot and my buddy said, you know, who the heck is that? And I said, he's a pretty big deal in Nashville. He said, tell him in Nashville. He's in Knoxville. And I, you know, and I've always remembered that because, you know, that guy's a judge who was telling me that my best friend. But he, it was just, you know, a wake-up moment that I realized early on that

everybody has got this fiefdom type mentality and it's who can represent better than me, nobody. And I can tell you right now, there's probably 200,000 people in my district that probably do a better job than I am. I'm just hard-headed enough to stick my head out. A lot of people don't want it because it's frustrating. Yeah, I'll see the security issues now, too. Is there ever a moment in, you know, like at lunch with your colleagues where somebody says, man, have you looked at the numbers?

People really hate us. This is a problem. I usually don't eat lunch with my colleagues. Okay, but I mean, I have a few close friends in Congress. During the course of a day at work in the U.S. Congress where you do work, does anyone ever note that like we're more unpopular than like clemedia and that's not good no yeah i'd say we're i'd say clemedia outranks us yeah yeah yeah oh no definitely clemedia has its defenders um no one defense no no no but yeah there's a bunch of us i mean we we see what's going on we just shake her head

but it's a lot of frustration though tucker yeah we're in a minority you look at spending bills and look at the opinion polls on things like you're currently other things, and you look at the board and you're wondering, where are we at? What's going on? And you know, and for guys like me, though, it gets incredibly tough because, you know, the big boys start calling

and the bank account dries up pretty quick. It's hard to raise money. For somebody like me, it is incredibly tough to raise money. A lot of, most of my contributions are just hard work and God-fearing people. They'll send me $10 in a Bible verse, you know, and I don't,

the billionaires usually are for me the day after the election. Yeah, I noticed. And they're out in force against a couple of your colleagues who've said things that are totally consistent with what the public wants. Right. But the billionaires don't want it. They don't want it. And they control a lot of the media. But fortunately now for the Internet, we can.

Yeah, bypass. People like you and I can bypass that. Oh, I'm grateful every day. Can I ask, so you represent Eastern Tennessee. which is a much more conservative than, say, the Memphis area or even the next. Actually, I did one point better than President Trump, but if he were here today, I'd say that was, in fact, an error and that you carried me over the finish line, Mr. President.

I think you would have to say that, yes, for sure. But so your threat is not in the general election. Like, it's an R-plus whatever. Yeah, it's a primary, but it's just... It would be a primary. Right, but they could dump big money in and the dark money. Okay, so that's the... A member like you is vulnerable in the primary.

And someday I'd like to, maybe if I had the opportunity to get to the U.S. Senate, I wouldn't mind doing that, but that would be Katie bar the door. They'd pour the money in all over the country to beat me. Of course. But you're even seeing with a couple of your colleagues are getting primaried by billionaires because they've said things that are, you know, true but not acceptable, I guess. Are you worried about being primaried? Yeah, there's only two ways to run, scared, not opposed.

And I'm a product of the primary. The first race I won, I beat an income, but in a state house race, 99 house races that year, it's the only person to beat an income. And I won with just two and three quarters percentage points ahead. I knocked on over 6,000 doors. I'd been run out of town or run out of business by the government, and it was a great lesson. But I did knocked on over 6,000 doors.

And I think I raised, I think I raised around $8,000 or $9,000. I can't remember. And I thought, how am I going to spend all this? this, dadgum money. You know, every morning I'd wake up. My mom and daddy, of course, were living then. And I would throw up because I had this horrible taste of peppermint in my mouth. And the reason I had peppermint, because I licked all my stamps.

That's the back day you had to lick stamps. Yes. And I remember one morning I woke up and I was rolled up in them. I was like in a cocoon of stamps. But, you know, I'd wake up every morning I'd throw up, and mama would make me a turkey sandwich on white bread and give me a sprite. And I'd get right back and knock on doors. For breakfast.

Yeah, that's all I could hold down. And I'd get out and knock on doors all day long. And I lost over 20 pounds, got bit by a dog, took off my shirt, and I looked like a target. I just red on the rings and white in the belly, you know. And so, but it was, I learned, wore out a pair of new balance shoes. And the only shoes at the time that were made in America, so I'm kind of big on that.

And so we won and spent four years in the house. and then I'd just come off of a business deal. I had a mulch business. I had a composting business, and I'm a capitalist, but I can remember that scene in the godfather right before he dies, the original godfather, and he's spraying that on the tomatoes and the little grandbabies running around him. My daddy had one of those sprayers.

I remember he grew these tomatoes, and at the time I remember I think he spent $20 on tomatoes and fertilizer, and we got like three of these gnarly tomatoes. Of course, this is in the 70s, and we're family of public educators, 20 bucks is righteous bucks. And I said, Daddy, I'd like to try that. I want to try organic gardening. And he said, all right, you go ahead. And at the time, KUB used to come by the house and a chipper truck.

And they'd pick up all your brush, you know, throw them in the back of one of those big chippers. And it'd spit it in the back of the truck. And I said, what do y'all do with that stuff? We'd take it to the landfill. And I said, really, how much they pay you for it? And they said, they don't. We pay them to take it. This was in 1978.

I was in the eighth grade. And so the wheel started turning. I was like, man, that's a business idea. I said, dump that stuff here. So they dumped it, and I composted it, and I had a crazy, incredible garden, squash, beans, strawberries, tomatoes, of course, and I fed the church, the neighborhood, everybody, come by the house. I had friends in themies.

I give my sack of tomatoes. Well, fast forward, I went to college six years of undergraduate studies, the University of Tennessee. I thoroughly enjoyed my college career, six years of studies. I didn't drink or smoke pot and it still took me six years. That's pretty good. End up agreeing to technological and dull education.

I was certified to teach shop. Took a few art classes and apparently I got an art certification, I think, on my certificate, I believe. But anyway, so I can weld and fix motors and I can burn your house down if you need it wired. I can't do that very well.

But in all the other machine shop stuff, I can do that or I could at the time. So I came up with this idea taking all the city's yard waste. And I presented it to then the city mayor. I said, what are y'all doing with it? I said, we'd take it to the landfill. And they could pay me a reduced fee of what they take it to the landfill.

I would grind it and then sell it. Well, we had a blizzard that year. So we did about, seems like we did 30,000 tons that first year. And they paid me around, it was under $20, but just say $20 a ton. So I was like $600,000. And this was in $90,000. one or 92. I've been out of college for a little while, worked in the business world. And I literally, I would have been a million, I became very wealthy. But I had to grind it.

So it cost me about a half a million dollars. So I was still clearing $100,000, living at home with my family, who's public educators. So $100,000 was pretty righteous bucks. But then I sold it. I sold it for, I think it was $20 a pickup truck load. So I was selling between, I would sell four to five thousand pickup truckloads a month. So, I mean, I was raking it in. It was all cash. And I reported everything. I had accountants.

I made sure that I was crazy honest. I gave half up it away to churches and schools. Well, somebody decided they wanted that business when I think ended up happening. And they accused me of taking toxic waste. They said, there's bacteria in that newspaper articles. There's bacteria in his mulch. Well, human body contains a half a quarter pound, a quarter pound of, of bacteria. I mean, it aids in digestion. If the earth didn't have bacteria, it would be a cube.

I mean, we just press everything. You know, nothing would. So, Smoky Mountains, there's not in these parks out here. There's nobody running around in a white suit collecting every leaf, you know, and put in it. And so God had a plan, and bacteria is part of it. Well, of course, it had bacteria in it. And they would test it, and they did a faulty test. And finally, it just got ridiculous. The EPA even came in. And oddly enough, the day after they owes my business, I got the EPA report and it cleared me and said, in fact, there is bacteria in there, but there's not abnormal amounts. There's nothing. And the head of UT's microbiology department, I'll never forget this. Tucker, he ate my mulch on the news to prove that this was just

bogus. This is crazy. And the state would come in and shut me down. They'd get some report. How was it? Huh? How was the mulch? Delicious. Yeah. Delicious. Yeah. Delicious. So anyway, I end up losing that business. I remember. My dad told me, he said, put an American flag on top of that mulch pile. And I did, and he said, this thing's bigger than that. Daddy's World War II veteran, nothing. He's calm under fire, man. Him and Mama both were wonderful people.

Mama flew an airplane during the Second World War. Depression era. Didn't have electricity. She's a senior in high school. They were tough people, and they didn't like what they were doing to me. And apparently the public didn't either. Because I knocked on, I said, I knocked on over 6,000 doors and beat a respected incumbent, I guess, in the primary. And I never looked back.

And I became, I was in the state house for four years, state senate for 12 years. And that's sort of been my thing, even with the UFOs, my thing is when people come to me, because you can hire a lobbyist, you can hire a lawyer. But the average working guy, they call the front desk and they asked, can I speak to Tim? Because they think they know me. Because they're, you know, the government's ripped them off. And I always remember during that time, it was when, um, do you remember Travelgate under the Clinton administration.

Yes. And it seems like I think Hillary and Bill, if I remember correctly, these people that were running the travel operation at the White House and Congress, they ran them out of business. So put their friends in there. So they put their friends in there. And those people travel the country because I remember they had a half a million dollars, or they had 300,000 in legal expenses.

I had more than that in the most business. I mean, they were threatening a felony. They were going to throw me in the federal penitentiary over this thing because I wouldn't give up. And they had, and I remember the university, of Tennessee, this liberal professor gave his kids extra credit if they would come pick at me. And they came down there and they brought the neighborhood people down there and they had misspelled words and their signs, you know, and they'd parked their BMWs around the side

and they could come pick at me to look like they were just, and they all dressed down. It was the most pathetic thing. And I remember the person at the city that was really orchestrating it all against me was, I remember seeing them. hug the reporter that was writing all the nasty articles about me and I just you know the whole thing was just and I saw I see Americans getting run down the road and I think that's why people like me appeal there's not a lot of folks like me obviously in congressmen folks like me appeal to people because they've been run over and they know they can call me and I can and I'm not judgmental I just say I don't care if they vote for me and not have people that are convicted felons

people have killed people before and I've helped them out and because I don't care because I see the system. It ran over me, and I was just some white middle class kid from West Knoxville, and the system ran me over. Well, speaking of someone, I've got two questions where I forget. One, have you ever been threatened since you've been in the U.S. Congress with a primary challenge by your own party? Has anyone your own party said, knock it off, we'll fund a challenge her. They flew, from what I understand, a couple people were flown to D.C. I know one apparently was, and I think the other one was, and they either called me or called somebody else and said, you know, no, Tim's a good thing. Why? Why? Because I rock the boat. I'm not. In what way?

Question leadership. I don't. I call them out. I can remember one time. Was it the UAPs, do you think? No. Well, I mean, they use that. They think they can use that against me. It's other things. It's much deeper than that. I can remember when I went in conference, we were at the Capitol Hill club and they meet over there legally so we can talk about fundraising and then we're in the capital and have our conference meeting talk strict politics and i asked the head of the committee that was carrying the bill i said ma'am i said how much money is in this bill and she said i don't know and i said no i mean the bill that you're talking about right now the one that we're getting ready to spend all this money on how much is in it and she said i don't know and leadership said man you can't

What are you doing? What are you doing? I was like, what do you mean? What am I doing? I come from Tennessee. We run a balanced budget in Tennessee. It's a crazy concept. We have zero debt. That's why everybody's clamming. Leadership didn't want you to ask how much money. It just made everybody uncomfortable, I guess. I don't know. But things like that. I get it. I get it. I ask questions, you know, it's just part of the system. They beat you down. They beat you down. And then you see him, and then, you know, the next thing, it's like in Cool Hand Luke where Paul Newman is, he comes back, and they beat him down and beat him down, and he becomes, you know, the warden's boy.

But then, in reality, it was all in hacked, and he ends up stealing a truck and getting killed. But I don't plan on stealing a truck, and I don't plan on getting killed. I'm not suicidal. Congress won't continue to exist if they keep acting like this. This country, will not continue to exist. If we don't get our financial ship in order, we will sink.

And it is, we're 36 trillion in debt. Nobody cares. All they care about is getting through that next election. That's bottom line. Leadership, anybody else. These people are all my friends. I'm not making any friends doing this show. But the reformers, I notice, people who have a different view or say things like you're saying. So Massey, above all. Um, Marjorie, Taylor Green, you. I'm not saying you guys agree on everything. I don't think you do. But we're all very close friends.

But you have a similar orientation, which is, like, actually pro-America. Is this good for the country or is it not? And all three of you are either dismissed as crazy or really, really hated. And in case of Massey, it's like, you know, he's the target of, like, a very serious. Oh, they're going to spend, they'll drive his money up and spend millions against him. Is he going to win, do you think? I don't know. I don't have any idea.

I don't, I haven't looked at the numbers. I don't pay much attention to polls except election night. If it's close, then I question those. Yeah, you have ever reason to. You said earlier in our conversation that members of Congress were compromised. What did you mean by that? Well, I was on, can I, can I name a rival of your? Or maybe, I don't want you to name anything that comes to mind.

I was on the Benny show, and it was early on. And Benny and I become friends. I didn't realize he was so close to Charlie, Charlie Kirk. But he had me on early on, and I honestly, I didn't know who he was. And he asked me about that. And I said, well, I said, here's the way it works. It's the way it's worked in the past. The Russians even have a name for, you know, the honeypot.

And I don't go on overseas trips much. I've been to one trip, and that was prior, I've been on one Codell, that's, I went to the Mexican border, and I went down one day with Andy Biggs, who's no, who's a good Mormon, and he's hopefully maybe be the governor of Arizona, but he said, Bertie, we're going on this trip. I know you don't go on these things, but it's just, it's just one like you'd like. We'll go down there and back, we'll stay in an awful motel, we'll eat some cheap Mexican food, some barbecue and we'll put you on a plane back to Tennessee and I said all right Andy I'll do it and um um but you know that's about it that I've done and so what happens is you're you're

overseas you're being told how great you are you're sitting at a bar and somebody and they know what you're into guys gals combination there of drugs whatever and they'll hook you up and you're thinking you're the stud, you're, you know, your wife's away, nobody will know halfway around the world. You end up sleeping with somebody, and then, you know, you're out. Next day, you're flying back to America, you know, you're back front row at the church, you know. And then you're getting ready to make a key vote, and somebody comes up and whispers in your ear, hey, man, are you in a motel room with a girl in, you know, Istanbul or something?

And you're like, oh, crap. He goes, man, we don't want that out. No, no, no, no, we don't, we're not going to put that out. It said, if you can help us on this little bill, though, you know. Now, that's the way they used to do it. And I'm not so certain they don't do that now. And it's funny when I did that show with Benny, the next, and oh, I caught hell. I caught hell.

So you said that. I said that. And members said, oh, you can't be saying that stuff, Birchett. Why? Truth hurts, I guess, for some people and other people. Have you ever, by the way, just parenthetically, ever been attacked for saying something false or only true things? Only true things. Yeah, only true things.

So it's funny, the next week, Tucker, there was this huge, and I said it always gets covered up and everything gets covered up and then somebody owns you. That's compromised. That'll be the title of my book, if I ever write a book. Tim Burchett's compromised Washington because that's what happens, or it has happened in the past. The very next week, a Chinese prostitution ring was busted in where, Washington, D.C.

And it was listed in the paper. Who is their client list? High-ranking officials in government, elected officials, and lobbyist. Now, to me, that's all kinds of red flags going up all over the place. Well, and then the next week, a story disappeared. Yeah. Of course it did. But I think what they do now mostly is they have jobs.

If you look at these guys and gals, and, you know, they have a wife and or girlfriend that'll work in one of these industries. I mean, $100,000 to a multi-billion dollar corporation is nothing. I mean, it's an extra supply paper clips or something. I think that's how they do it now. You have them in political offices, you have them in business offices, you have them all over. And you have what? They're employed. And so they own your ass.

they're employed by these people i'm sorry get my wife a job get my girl a job get them both a job you know and keep them separate and uh you know i know i know of i mean it's it's just it's just common i mean i hear about all the time i hear about very common i mean they just talk oh she she works over at defense she works over at justice she works for this case here he does or somebody does or they work back in the district for such and such i mean it's just human nature People that members of Congress are sleeping with, either legally or not, are employed by forces that want to control members of Congress. That's what they used to do. And now I'm pretty sure, you know, I knew of instances where that happened when I was in the legislature.

And now they do it through the employment agencies. Through employment agencies. I mean, just, I mean, they employ them, is what I'm saying. They employ them. Yeah. No, I mean, I know a bunch of members of Congress. I can, right off my head, I can think of with spouses in this or that. And they might be incredibly qualified, but the reality is America's not buying that.

Nobody should. But again, 12% of the population votes, this is what you get. I have noticed, just having spent my life in D.C. that people's personal lives are getting weirder in the Congress. Have you noticed that without implicating anyone by name? I don't think I'm imagining this. It's not just sleeping with your scheduler. It's weirder than that now.

Have you noticed that? I try to stay in my office as much as possible. Well, I just want to say for the record, I never heard of anybody participating in an orgy in Washington, D.C. in my entire life, and I've heard a lot about it recently. So that is, I wasn't there. I'm not going there, but I think that's real. I've never been, I don't know if it is or it isn't.

I'd hope that it isn't, and I'd like to think that it isn't, but I've never been invited. So, yeah, I, when I was in the state legislature, we used to talk about that, how we knew some people were pretty shady. And, but, you know, they never, they would never come to somebody like me and offer me anything because they knew my background. And they know you're making skateboards in your garage, so you're busy. In my barn. Let's use your barn. So one of the members of Congress who all of us were encouraged to think was weird and to hate, he was almost like a ritual sacrifice for the sins of the entire body, I felt, was.

this guy, George Santos. George Santos was not even a full-term congressman from New York who was like a serial fabricator made up all these kind of amazing stories about his life and he played on competitive volleyball. He worked at Goldman Sachs

and it was all kind of, it was all fake. He was both Jewish and something else. I can't remember. Anyway, it was all made up. He wound up. We always say Jew-ish. Right. I think I heard Schumer say that.

I was amused by the whole thing. Maybe I was, too. What a bad person. I just thought, who is Congress to state in judgment anybody? But I don't, well, that's it. But I don't remember George Santos ever advocating for, like, killing innocent people, which is, like, very common. George Santos had one of the most conservative voting records in Congress. Cross the board, conservative.

I mean, sometimes I'd look up there and think, taggum, George, that's a little harsh for me. You know, he'd vote against something that was, and I'd say, it costs $5. Barchet, we're broke. And I go, all right, gee, you're good. I'm good with it, you know. Interesting. Yeah. So, George Santos went up in prison, and I spoke to someone this morning who's

close to George Santos who visited him in prison this weekend. Right. And told me that he saw George Santos shackled in chains, and he's been in solitary since he got to prison. He did an interview. He's doing time in a federal lockup, too. In a federal lockup in solitary confinement. 24 hours a day. He's 24. He gets out, I think, one hour to maybe eat and take a bath.

What is going on? How did George Santos wind up in prison for like seven years and now he's in solitary? What's P. Diddy doing four? Maybe. Oh, I know actual criminals who were, like, celebrated on the front page of the newspaper. So I know a lot of them. So whatever. Not, I don't want to lecture with the deep unfairness of life. But like, what is that? Why? I think he was a sacrificial lamb. And I think. our party and everybody else just kicked him to the curb and said look how righteous we are and i just don't you know he'd always sit with me on sinners row that's what i call it every time somebody would get in trouble they would or perceived to be in trouble because i'm not mean i i've said this before and i mean i'll say it publicly i'd george was under a heck of a lot of pressure and i'm i call myself a christian and if i sat there and watched him kill himself

over something and he went to hell, I'd have that on my soul, and I just don't want that. And, you know, my chief staff called me one day and said, hollered, hey boss, I said, he goes, I know what you're going to say. And I go, what is it? And he said, nobody wants to take George's their mentor. Would you be his mentor? I said, sure, sign him up. And he just shook his head. And he said, yeah, he'll do it. And then, and George and I just became fast friends. His office was catty cornered to mine, and the press would be just lined up down the hall, and some kid would walk by close in stature down the other than I'd go, hey, there's George Santos, and they'd all run down there and chase him, and I'd have fun with that,

and then George would come in the office, and I would talk to him about that, and I'd talk to him about my faith, and, you know, I'd just said, this is not reality, George, don't, I'd say, promise me if you think you're going to take your life, He'd call me anytime night or day. He said, I will, Tim. Don't worry. And he never did, you know, but he'd call me from time to time. But who was, like, how did he wind up in prison for so long? To me, I just don't understand that.

We just turned our back on him and. The Republican Party leadership did. Oh, absolutely. They don't want anywhere near it. We have to, you know, I guess they have. Like he's creepier than they are? Sorry. That's not true.

Well, no. True. That's, so I'm just, you don't have to say that. You work there, but they are way creepier than George San. Santos fact. George is a very interesting guy, and yeah, he fabricated a lot of stuff, but he's literally doing more time than P. Diddy or what it combs or whatever his name is. In solitary confinement.

Solitary confinement. And generally solitary is where they put the violent people, the people that have committed heinous crimes. And I hear people say, good, good, I hope they lock him up the rest of his life. You heard someone say that about George Santos? Oh, yeah. I've heard it. Where?

In Congress, I've heard him talk about it and how bad it made it look for us. I was like, for us, I said, have you not read the papers? We do a pretty good job of making it look bad. I don't think George Santos started the Ukraine war. No. What? No. We just, I don't know.

I think, again, we're a little big on ourselves sometimes. It does see, he's clearly being punished. He clearly has powerful enemies. I'm not sure who they are, but, or maybe I don't understand the whole thing. But how this person called me this morning to say, can you save George Santos something? I mean, I said I'm a podcaster. I can't save anybody, but I don't know. This is like, this is truly wrong what's happening to George Santos.

It's completely wrong. Yeah, he committed. I guess he took money he shouldn't have, but. It was a campaign finance violation. Yeah, a campaign finance violation, correct. Right. The whole category is. And, you know, they stack so much up against him.

I think the amount of time he was going to do was just incredible. to stack them on top of each other. But then to torture him once he gets to prison. I think it's, if he, if he, if he lives through it all, he's going to, he's going to have one heck of a story to tell. You don't want to live in a country that does that to people? I don't think. I mean, so only Trump can save him.

Is that kind of where we are? Do you think? I think so. I think so. And they can commute, you know, they did these reality TV show people that he didn't even know. we happen to know George, you know, giving community service home lockup or whatever, but I just think it's a waste of taxpayers' money and it's a waste. It just doesn't seem right.

I just don't, unless everybody else is going to go to jail for a longer amount of time for the crimes they committed. Well, I mean, I remember very well Bill Jefferson. I mean, I've just watched a lot of different scandals in the Congress, almost all Democrats. and the Democratic Party stood behind those people until sentencing. Oh, yeah. The leadership. You remember they all walked out of Congress

when Clinton was, and they, you know, sang it was there that day. Yes, 1998, I'll never forget it. So the Republican leadership with Marjorie, Taylor Green, with Massey now, and with Santos, just like immediately, we've never heard of the guy

and we hope he dies in prison. Like, what is that? Why can't the Republican Party have leadership that stands by its people and stands by its voters? Is that too much to ask? I think we read our opinion polls too much and not our souls. Well, I mean, what's your sacred duty? It's to represent the people who elected you. That's the whole purpose of being there.

I always thought, too, our anger, if we had to be angered at anybody, it should have been the Democrats who did the opposition resource. I mean, you know, opposition research on, on. George, I mean, you could have Googled and found out that stuff. You could have called the school and said, hey, is he in school here or whatever. I mean, the guy's like an epic bullshit artist. I get it. I mean, I don't, you know, I'm not defending wine.

Is that federal, but is that a federal crime? Well, you just spent an hour telling me how they're lying about UFOs, which is a pretty serious thing to lie about. They're shutting down military bases because they can't, you know, because they don't control the airspace. That's correct. So that's very serious. They're lying about the Kennedy assassination.

They lied about September. Yeah, the funny thing about Kennedy, we had in on our committee, Looning chairs and this oversight subcommittee, and we had a doctor in there who was in the emergency room with Kennedy. And he said there was clearly an entry wound, an exit wound, and an entry wound, and an exit wound going the opposite direction. And, you know, one bullet supposed to that magic bullet did that. Shot John Conley and the president simultaneously.

You know, those files have not been fully released, as you know. No, no, and they never will be. They never will be. Just power, control. And these, in the CIA or whoever would have to admit that they were wrong. They'd have to admit that they were wrong. And the arrogance is just, I think once you take the oath, you get an oath of arrogance, that you've got to protect us, our past, and we'll protect you kind of thing in the future.

And I just think that carries on with them all. and they for whatever reason okay but george santos pretending to be a high level volleyball player is the real crime that is the crime of the century he said he worked at colbin sacks kill him okay just put just to put deception in perspective here because i think they're you know not all lies are the same i agree okay final question since you more than many member of congress have thought about this as candidly as you can answer what do you think based on what you've heard the UFOs are actually. I think, again, God created the heavens and the earth.

And every night I go out with my dogs, usually at 4 o'clock in the morning, they go to the bathroom and look at those stars. And I see the light from those stars, and it's hard for my very small brain to comprehend this, a light from those stars left there before the time of Christ. And some of those stars don't even exist that we're looking at today, which is hard for me to fathom, or as a good old voice as they are, for me to fan them. But I think there's something else out there. I do not think we are the best that God can do. Now, is there something here as this, you know, proposed to me with these deep sea areas? I don't know. Is something

been here? But the way for me to comprehend anything traveling light years, I mean, it's just beyond belief. That is beyond belief. But now there's this quantum, I've been explained quantum physics and I really don't understand it, how something can be here and instantaneously be here simultaneously

almost simultaneously. And that, that to me begs the question of how does that fit into all this. And if something's here in these deep sea areas, has it been here for you know, thousands of years?

and that's the other question. That's what, you know, these folks in the Navy kind of, and I have to be real careful. With the folks in the Navy, what? That I've talked to about this undersea type. And what have they said? They said, we don't know what's down there. And they said, we think there's a reason that they're over these deep sea areas

that we cannot get to. And so I don't. Their belief is, whatever these things are. They've been here. And obviously if there was, if they meant harm to us, we're doing a pretty good job of harm in ourselves. Just look at our political structure. But the truth is that we just don't know, and I don't know.

My thoughts are kind of evolving on it, Tucker, to be honest with you, because I get to the point sometimes where I'm kind of beat down, I think, oh, this is crazy, there can't be. But how many of these people got to come forward to me that I know and respect tell me what they've seen? and there's no explanation for it. And so I just think it's another one of those things I'm not going to know till I'm in heaven.

I mean, I know that sounds weird and people. It doesn't sound weird at all. It sounds entirely true. And that's true for a lot of things, including understanding people's motivations, including our own motivations. Like, we don't understand anything. I mean, of course.

We don't. I mean, it's every, you know, and science can't get out of its own way. Every time they find something new, you know, it's like the sealicant, for instance. It was a lobed fined fish caught off the coast of Madagascar, I believe it was, and it's supposed to have been extinct 50 million years ago. But all of a sudden it's here. And then they, well, you know, there was this, but they can't explain it.

And I, again, go back to that Bible verse, those professing themselves to be wise became fools. And I think it's, I was on a show the other day with a guy named Loeb. He's a UFO guy. He's, I think he's at Harvard, I believe. Anyway, he was talking about how science, what he likes about science is that it's changing and it's in it, how it, but a lot of scientists, it's like, you know, this is a brick wall.

This is the way it is. It's not going to change. And I think with the UFOs, that's kind of the situation we're in. I just tell you, I've talked to too many people that have just sworn to me what they've seen, and some that I can't disclose, but, and I would hope that eventually that those people are able to come forward. Yeah. And in general, the people will start telling the

truth. It's an active liberation when you do. Congressman Tim Burchett, I appreciate you're coming on. Thank you. Thank you, Tucker. visit, it's called new commission now.com. And it refers to a new 9-11 commission. So we spent months putting together our 9-11 documentary series. And if there's one thing we learned, it's that in fact, there was foreknowledge of the attacks. People knew. The American public deserves to know. We're shocked, actually, to learn that, to have that confirmed, but it's true. The evidence is overwhelming. The CIA, for example, knew the hijackers were here in the United States. They knew there were planning an act of terror.

In his passport is a visa to go to the United States of America. Before a national was caught celebrating as the World Trade Center fell and later said he was in New York, quote, to document the event. I didn't know there would be an event to document in the first place because he had foreknowledge.

And maybe most amazingly, somebody, an unknown investor, shorted American Airlines and United Airlines, the companies whose planes the attackers used on 9-11, as well as the banks that were inside the Twin Towers just before the attacks. They made money on the 9-11 attacks because they knew they were coming.

Who did that? You have to look at the evidence. The U.S. government learned the name of that investor, but never released it. Maybe there's an instant explanation for all this, but there isn't, actually. And by the way, it doesn't matter whether there is or not. The public deserves to know what the hell that was. How did people know ahead of time? Oh, I was no one ever punished for it.

The 9-11 commission, the original one, was a fraud. It was fake. Its conclusions were written before the investigation. That's true, and it's outrageous. This country needs a new 9-11 commission, one that actually tells the truth that tries to get to the bottom of the story. We can't just move on like nothing happened. 9-11 commission is a couple.

Something did happen. We need to force a new investigation into 9-11 almost 25 years later. sorry justice demands it and if you want that go to new commission now.com to add your name to our petition we're not getting paid for this or do this because we really mean it new commission now dot com I don't know.