The Tucker Carlson Show - Patrick Feeney: Doomsday Prepping and What Rural Americans Really Think about Kamala Harris
Episode Date: August 6, 2024Tucker’s neighbor from rural Maine joins him in his barn to discuss doomsday prepping, country life, and what rural folk really think about Kamala Harris. (00:00) Who’s the President Right Now? (...11:00) What Should You Stockpile In Case of Emergency? (36:40) The Trump Assassination Attempt (46:05) The Prepper Mindset (59:59) All Electric by 2035 (1:08:06) The Windmill Problem Paid partnerships: ExpressVPN: Get 3 months free at https://ExpressVPN.com/TuckerX Policygenius: Head to https://Policygenius.com/Tucker to get your free life insurance quote. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Who's the president right now?
Do you have any clue?
I don't know.
What, you got brain damage?
Who's the president?
Simple question.
Like when doctors are trying to assess whether you had a stroke or not,
they say, who's the president? You probably get the same answer out of anybody i
don't think i think obama's the president myself yeah i really do he took quite a while to endorse
the camel toe didn't he yeah he did yeah yeah and i don't know i i think joe biden put the
fucks to him on that i didn't think they i don't i don't think they
wanted her when you say just people who don't live in the in the region when you say put the
fucks to him what does that mean he was like giving him the middle finger oh okay yeah she
is not qualified to do anything in my i wouldn't hire her for a kindergarten art teacher i wouldn't
i don't think anyone would yeah I mean how did that's another thing
I mean I know how she got in
because
DEI
or DIE
or whatever you want to call it
but
yeah we got to get rid of those laws
which laws?
the DEI
I don't know if they're laws
are any of these things laws
that these people are doing?
do you even know?
no I don't think so
I don't think they're laws
I just think they're
spoken
assumptions
I don't think you're getting a job at JP Morgan if that's your question right but I don't think they're laws. I just think they're spoken assumptions. I don't think you're getting a job at J.P. Morgan, if that's your question.
Right, but I don't think that these things that people are doing are laws.
I don't think they have to hire somebody because they're of color or a woman.
There's no law saying you have to have 39% of your employees have to be of color.
There's no law, is there?
I think the Justice Department will sue you if you don't.
Will they?
Yep.
Because too many white men is bad.
They might write a constitution or build a functional country or something.
Are there laws on the books now that say you have to do that?
No, they're regulations so far as I know.
They can sue you then?
Yep.
They would just sue you?
Yeah, because it's prima facie discrimination.
Like there's no black and white law saying
you have to have so many people of certain color
or race or gender working for you, right?
I don't think passed by the Congress.
Right.
So if you had a company of 50-
Because that itself would violate civil rights law.
You can't discriminate on the basis of race, right?
That is a law in the United States.
So if I had an asphalt company and I had 50 employees,
and I didn't hire somebody because...
So a guy fills out an application,
I don't hire him because he's got four OUIs
and he doesn't have a dump truck license,
but he happens to be of color.
Can he sue the asphalt company and say,
well, he didn't hire me.
Well, it happens all the time.
Right.
And do they win?
Absolutely, they win.
Wow.
But there is no law saying.
I don't know about
the dump truck license
or the four OUIs,
though I think probably,
yes, they'd win.
But certainly,
it's very, very common
for people who scored lower
on the test
that gauges
whether you can do the job
or not.
Right, right.
Still suing? Oh, absolutely. And win. Oh, absolutely. So they don't go by the test that gauges whether you can do the job or not. Right, right. Still suing?
Oh, absolutely.
And win.
Oh, absolutely.
So they don't go by the test?
No, they haven't tested.
They don't go by the, okay, we had a bunch of cones set up and we had two dump trucks
and these guys did the best on their test.
Yeah, but what color are they?
If it matters more.
The cones?
Yeah, the cones.
The cones are orange.
I know that.
So you've been saying
for a long time
that things are going
to fall apart.
You have been.
I can't wait.
Like for over a decade
you always say,
it's coming
and when it does
these people are fucked.
Yeah, they are.
It does seem like
a little less crazy
prediction right now.
Right.
I mean, they are falling apart.
If you look at the talk about looting, what happens is the biggest thing with losing the energy grid,
all the millions of scenarios that can happen.
It's already happening.
California.
Well, California, exactly right.
So what do you think about buying big plastic bins of freeze-dried food?
Yeah, you should have.
That's a short-term solution.
It's not going to get you through the Great Depression.
Yeah, no.
It's not going to get you through post-Civil War down south living.
It's going to get you through two weeks without power at most you know
maybe a year if you get a whole stockpile of it but no you gotta just have a mindset of
can i live am i gonna be able to live like i have to live when that time comes you know like to
simplify your life am i gonna be you've got say you've got a daughter that lives in New York City.
Okay, obviously she's not going to be able to live in New York City.
It's going to be burned down and looted, which it almost is now.
Yeah.
Okay, is she going to be ready to come to New Jersey or Maine or where?
New Jersey is probably still too close in that situation.
I don't know.
But Pennsylvania, Maine to live. Is she going to be able to say, okay, this has happened.
We'll just use the Great Depression for a baseline.
Great Depression has happened.
Everybody's jumping out of the buildings in New York City.
All right, we're going to hang out in Maine for 20 years and get our life back together.
Yeah.
You know, is your family ready for that?
Are your close ones, everybody you're close to ready for that are your your close one you're everybody you're
close to ready for that no whether they're trained or not doesn't the training doesn't matter it's
just in their mind you got to be ready for that stuff you got to always have that and that you
know live like you live i live very very modern do everything modern everything i got is power
everything i got but in the back of my brain i like, I might have to cut my firewood by hand
because I'm not going to be able to get any gas someday.
Well, the fact that you used firewood in the first place
suggests you're not totally modern.
Right.
So you burn firewood?
Yeah, a lot.
Probably eight cords a year.
How much is eight cords?
A wheeler load, a truck load.
When you see the big truck going down the road,
that's about eight cord.
I'm just saying this for, I know how much that is.
So you burn it for heat.
Yep.
And my father burns wood.
I have an oil furnace backup.
I bought 100 gallons of oil when I bought, when I moved into my house, which was 10 years ago.
Yep.
And I still, I probably burn 10 of that 100 gallons.
So. I just turn the furnace on 10 of the 100 gallons. So.
I just turn the furnace on every year to make sure it works.
That's about it.
So you burn your house on your farm.
It's not tiny, but it's not huge.
And you burn eight cords of wood.
What does it take to prepare that wood?
I get a, if I buy it tree length, which I have before,
so the truck comes, it drops it off tree length.
I would say with the machinery that I have,
which is a hydraulic splitter and a dump trailer and a conveyor
and a chainsaw and a tractor and all those stuff every farm has,
I'd say a week.
A week.
If I don't do it straight, I'd do a couple hours after supper type stuff.
But yeah, it would be a week.
If I took a week off, I could get my firewood done.
If two weeks, I could do mine and my father's together probably.
If I have to cut the tree down and drag it out of the woods, then it's probably two weeks.
So what is that just for people who don't cut their own firewood, eight cords of wood?
How many cords does your dad have?
About 35 trees is eight cords.
And how many cords does your dad burn a week? Probably six, six to eight. We'll just call it
eight. We each burn a load a year. Okay. So 16 cords of wood. Let's say you have it dropped off
in front of your house with a truck and it's just tree length, no branches, but tree length.
What do you have to do to get it ready? You got to cut it to six.
Well, I cut mine two foot, 20 inches, but 16 inches.
Most people, depends on your stove.
You have to, so you, I pick it up with the tractor.
I cut it with a chainsaw.
I have a pretty good efficient system.
So you got to cut it to length.
You got to split it to size so it dries.
If it's small stuff, you don't have to split it.
Round wood is the best.
Unsplit wood, every time you split it, they say you lose 10% of the efficiency out of it because you've made it smaller.
You know, a big chunk of wood burns really efficiently.
Yes.
So you always leave it big.
And I always split it as I need it.
You know, I'll break it down to where I can handle it, but I don't break it down really small to start with.
And then in the cellar, then you can, okay, I need some small stuff.
You just split up what you need.
Then you don't have a whole pile of small stuff that burns real fast.
And then you got to stack it and dry it.
That's the time-consuming thing.
You can't burn it green.
It takes about a year to dry wood.
Really?
Yeah.
So you have, I guess, 32 cords of wood sitting out?
Yeah, I do.
I got mine.
I got next year's is all done.
My father is working on his.
He's got next year's all done. We had his next year all done this winter,
and I'm doing his year after that right now and then this winter I'll do
mine next year's I can actually dry it if I had it done in the winter it'll be ready in the fall
so when I say a year it's like a season dries pretty fast at my house and I stack it so it dries
so that's with machines so the if you're doing it by hand I can't imagine like I see that you
see the pictures of the old timers out there there with the cross-cut saw in the mall,
and they were probably those old farmhouses I've heard, 10, 12 cords in winter.
Can you imagine doing that all by hand?
Because they were heating with fireplaces.
I mean, before wood—
No, really, you're heating—
An open pit, yeah.
Yeah.
Can you imagine cutting that all by hand?
So, how would you cut 10 cords with no gasoline or diesel?
You'd have to get a sharp saw and just go to it the old way.
You know, you'd have to have more kids.
That is kind of the answer.
Start breeding.
So could you, I mean, how long do you think that would take you?
Oh, that would take, that would just be, I think it would just be an ongoing thing.
I think like every day after supper, you would just go out for an hour and cut,
you know, maybe a day's worth of wood, not over, you wouldn't want to overwhelm yourself.
You know, can you, you know, just every that's, if you don't have machinery, that's kind of how you
do every kind of gardening chore or firewood chore. You just kind of try not to overwhelm
yourself and make it a chore. So of all the things, just think of if you're driving home and you see a tree on the side of
the road that is free for the taking, it fell down or whatever, and you just stopped and grabbed it.
If you did that every day in your travels, you'd probably have enough firewood. If you just stopped
and saw every tree on the side of the road and cut it up, threw it in the back of your truck,
and that's what we used to do in the old days.
We didn't drive by a tree.
You know, we would stop and cut it up and throw it in the truck.
Did you get paid by the town for cleaning up the roads?
No.
So of all the things that worry you,
power grid going down is probably going to be at the bottom, right?
Yeah, no, not big.
Other than food storage, my freezer.
I don't know if the, you know, I think things would have to really get bad to not be able to get any gas, gasoline and diesel at the stores.
I don't know.
You know, it depends on how bad things got.
If it was like a war situation, it would be bad.
Right, if the refinery shut down and how much you know you're
not going to waste that gas mowing your lawn no you need to run a generator you know for your food
you're going to probably you're not going to drive unaccess you're not going to just drive for the
sake of driving somewhere if you've got to have that gas to live off i don't know i don't know
how bad it's going to get but you can store food without power you can can the meat like they did you can butcher
you know get all your neighbors together okay we're going to butcher a cow today yeah you know
so you cut it up accordingly so that's how they did it in the old day before refrigeration the
butcher butchered things accordingly so the meat would get used up fast enough.
So.
And small animals, small animals were developed in the olden days, we'll call them, for a lot of times for refrigeration purposes.
If you're one family out in the middle of the, you know, plains living, you're not going
to butcher a cow in the middle of July.
Right.
You know, you're going to butcher a sheep that you can eat.
Exactly.
Fast enough.
Before it spoils.
Before it spoils.
Or you're going to can it.
But canned meat's not my favorite thing.
Yeah, you get botulism.
Which we now think of as like the core ingredient in Botox, but it's also a different thing.
I think people, they're just, I wouldn't say prepping would be a more of a, just a way to start thinking about things.
Like I said, is your family ready?
I mean, it's hard to imagine it if you've been a beneficiary of 100 years of modernity and ease and wealth.
Right. We've all had an easy life.
That's exactly right.
I've had a super easy life as far as that kind of stuff goes.
I mean, we all work hard and do things, but.
So what do you store now?
And I should say for the,
I didn't even introduce you.
This is Patrick Feeney,
lives in Maine,
has had every kind of job imaginable
and lives basically,
from my perspective,
you live pretty close to off-grid.
Like you produce most of your food at home
on your farm.
Animals, you've got a pretty amazing grow operation.
How many different vegetables do you grow?
Oh, I don't know.
I'm more of a McDonald's french fry type of guy.
Your wife.
My wife grows everything you can imagine.
Lettuce, beets.
I like corn on the cob.
I like all the potatoes.
I love potatoes.
Yeah, any vegetable you can think of.
Salad greens, carrots, greenhouse.
But more than enough to live forever.
Oh, yeah, she feeds.
I mean, she supplies food to three restaurants in town and sells to 20 different people.
So she supplies plenty.
So you're good to go with food.
Oh, yeah.
And I would say storage would not be a, I would say food's almost, storage is, you got to think that short term with any food.
You get your long-term storage, the buckets that you buy.
Yeah, that's a lot.
I don't know.
Are those really going to be good in 100 years?
You wonder.
Have you ever eaten a 30-year-old MRE?
No.
I have.
It's not.
Why are you eating a 30-year-old MRE?
Just to try it.
I found one a couple of years ago that I had left over from the Army.
It wasn't that good.
It wasn't that good?
I never really liked them in the Army, and I really don't like them now.
30 years from now, the same one.
So what do you stockpile? Meat in the army and yeah i really don't like them now 30 years from now the same one so what do you
stockpile uh meat in the freezer now that's a catch that's a that could bite me in the ass
because of the electrical grid yeah you know hopefully freezer doesn't use much juice so
you could have your little thousand watt honda generator fire it up for an hour a day plug your
freezer in get it cold you know you could do that for a while.
What kind of meat do you store?
I have mostly deer and moose.
And if we haven't had, we got a pig, we got two pigs we just bought today.
They're going to raise them.
But boy, they look awful tasty, that size right there.
I might just have a little pig party.
Well, you texted me a picture and said they were so cute.
You already think about eating them?
Oh, yeah.
They look, ooh, they're very tasty.
Pig roast is very, very fun.
No, it just, what a moose deer.
Like I shot, I think I shot three deer last year.
So that takes up some space.
Not a lot of meat on a deer, you know.
You really have to shoot a couple every year to make a difference.
Unless you get a really big one.
Moose, a lot of, you know them might get the moose last year.
So that was, we still got the moose meat.
What do you think of it?
I love moose meat.
That was a good moose.
I've had good moose.
I've had bad moose.
That was a good one.
What's the difference?
Just the gaminess and the, you got to, when you kill something, you really got to get
it.
Moose season can be warm.
It was warm that day.
It wasn't too bad, but it was probably 60 degrees.
You got to hustle,
get it on ice.
You know,
we drugged it right on the trailer
and got it right to the butcher shop,
right to the guy's house with the freezer.
Yeah.
Hung it in the freezer
and put it on ice when we were driving.
You know,
the whole process was fast
and that makes a huge difference with game.
Did you,
but you dressed it in the field?
Dressed it in the field field we shot it like 8 30 and we were back at my parents house
by 11 after we tagged it shot it dragged it out tagged it
my parents house at 11 mike and i took off for off for New Hampshire to our friend Doug with the cooler,
and he's got a meat cutting business.
So we were at his house by like probably 3 in the afternoon.
How much of the dressing did you use a chainsaw for?
I didn't have to.
We were close to the truck.
We then drove the four-wheeler right to the move,
so we didn't have to cut the legs off or any of that stuff.
Just cut up the middle.
I used a sawzall.
It actually works good to cut the chest open with a sawzall.
How much meat did you get out of that moose?
You got 400 pounds of meat, I think, I believe, out of a 600, I think 700-pound moose.
That was a big moose.
Deer are about 200-pound deer will get you.
In Maine, we have 200-pound deer.
So I'd say 150-pound deer would be average,
would be 50 pounds of meat out of 150-pound deer.
I'm just saying that.
Maybe 75 pounds,
you know,
but a lot of bone,
you know,
like a cow,
all bone and fur,
you know,
and head.
So,
you got meat
in your cooler.
Do you have any bear
in your cooler?
Uh,
not right now.
I'm not a huge fan
of bear meat.
I did shoot one
a couple years ago,
a nice small one,
and it was very good eating.
That was another,
I shot that with snow on the ground, so I cooled it off fast. Bear meat spoils
fast. They shoot bear in like what, August? Yeah. You see, yeah. Because it's so greasy.
Yeah. It is very, like when you shoot something in August, you've got to be fast. I don't like
watching the hunting shows where they go get the deer the next morning. You know what I mean?
You shoot the deer and they're in like texas or i don't hunt in those
places but they're in like texas and they shoot the deer oh we'll go look for it in the morning
what happens if you leave you see that if you watch the camera footage enough the coyotes have
chewed the ass off the deer you know and it can't be any good i've shot deer in like cold weather
and found on the next day and they're already starting to stink, you know? Do you eat it anyway?
Yeah.
I mean, there's parts of it that are still good, but anything next to the belly,
and if it ran away, it was probably gut shot anyway or not a good shot.
Right.
It's all full of bile and stuff.
You want to have a nice clean shot if you can.
I think you owe it to any animal.
You know, you try your best.
Of course you do. Things happen.
Of course you do.
You know, but you don't want to just start wailing away at something,
thinking you're going to hit it in the ass or something.
I got shot a hog.
It was the last time I went hog hunting.
I felt so bad about it.
Yeah.
I mean, you didn't do purposely do it.
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Of course not.
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So how do you prepare bear meat?
Bear meat, I just cook that like steak.
I cut those up into steaks.
I'm kind of a throw-it-in-the-frypan type of cooker. I cut those up into steaks. I'm kind of a throw it in the fry pan type of cooker.
I'm not much on recipes.
Yeah.
I just like my, I like a little spices on my meat, cook it on the grill.
I like a roast.
I love a crock pot.
Yeah.
Stew.
You can take bad cuts of meat and throw it in the crock pot and it will.
You can put anything in the crock pot. Yeah, you can put anything in the crock pot and it tastes good.
So those are very basic. But the idea that if you have a 308, you've got enough nutrition,
could you hunt your way out of famine?
I've heard that the old wood logger guys in the logging camps in Maine,
would it be scurvy you would get without enough?
Yeah.
They ate all deer and moose meat.
Yep. And they were getting and moose meat. Yep.
And they were getting sick, lack of vitamin C.
But are there enough mammals in the woods to support?
Right now, I think that the end of the, and I believe, I forget who was talking about this.
Might have been on one of your shows, but okay, when that might have been Ted Nugent.
Okay, when the shit hits the fan, how long are they going to be?
There's not, you know, in areas like we're pretty rural here, but we're not that rural.
You can drive, you know, there's a road everywhere.
We're not like Northern Maine.
There's not going to be any deer really fast.
Yeah.
You know, the woods around here aren't that big.
In this particular area, these deer are going to be gone fast you
know the mountains are it's mountainous and it's a five mile hike to the next road but five miles
isn't that far yeah and uh yeah no the game is going to go fast it's going to be in the during
the depression the game went fast early night in the you know in the 30s i mean my father said when
he was a kid and that would have been the 50s
if somebody saw a deer where he grew up in southern maine it was in the paper i mean you
know it was just if one popped out it got shot yeah and i think that's gonna happen if things
get bad there's enough people that know you're gonna you're not gonna self-preservation you
no matter how messed up your life is or what's going on,
if you're starving to death and a dog steps out in front of you,
as much as you might love dogs, if your family's dying, guess what?
Yeah, dogs do.
Yeah.
I mean, I wouldn't do it.
Yeah.
No way I would do it.
I would probably die before I ate a dog.
I would too.
But in a famine, the neighbor's kids aren't safe.
Right.
I mean, people get really-
That's the problem.
I think that's something more to think about.
Is it ever going to get that bad?
I would like to think not.
I like to think that people aren't like that.
I don't know.
You travel more than I do and witness how cultures act.
I don't think there's too many cultures that are like that now worldwide
where they're just knocking people down and taking over.
You know what I mean?
Well, certainly the culture you grew up in is not like that at all.
No, I don't know if there are places in the world where it's that bad.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, maybe the Middle East and that type of.
Africa.
Africa, yeah.
So, I mean, you think it's, I mean, I can't imagine it would ever get that way here. I like to think people are nice enough that, you know,
your brother's not going to bash me over the head because I got potatoes and he doesn't.
Yeah.
He's a tricky one, though.
Be careful.
You're looking at him off camera.
Yeah.
He might, if I had five gallons of gas, he might bash me.
He might.
Do you stockpile gas? It's hard to. I mean, I use so much of it. Yeah. Yeah. So he might, if I had five gallons of gas, he might, he might stockpile gas.
It's hard to, I mean, I use so much of it. Yeah. I filled up cans the other day. I filled up my
cans. I filled up your cans and man, that doesn't last long. So could you stockpile gas? I think it
would evaporate. Yeah. You know, you could do underground tank would be the best. You got to
keep the ethanol. You got to buy, you'd have to buy non-ethanol gas and stuff.
You can add to the gas to keep it from spoiling.
Diesel fuel spoils.
It gets mold in it.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
You'd have to.
Yeah, you could probably do it for a couple of years, like maybe five years.
But why wouldn't you want ethanol in your gas when it helps the environment?
Don't get going on that.
Don't get going on that you don't get going on ethanol
yeah
the number of
lectures we've had
about ethanol from you
is like
so you're not
just to be clear
you're not for ethanol
no
you take a
look at a gummed up carburetor
from ethanol gas
and it's not
the new motors are fine
if it's fuel injected
and you use it every day
it's not going to hurt anything
but yeah
anytime you store anything
for a long
ethanol attracts moisture you know it's what you mix with with water so it will burn but it attracts water
also well like in your boat your boat's sitting right there all the water molecules that jump
off the water go into the gas yeah i've noticed yeah it'll wreck your wreck your motor and it
will happen to diesel fuel just like gas diesel fuel fuel will soak up water just the way it is.
It's natural.
It's going to soak up water anyway.
So what would you, before we get to what the mindset is, what would you stockpile?
Or what do you stockpile?
I would ammo.
Ammo's good. I think ammo's going to be a, if it becomes like we just
talked about
where,
you know,
we're only
eight hours
from New York
City by car
here.
It's very,
you know,
they can,
those people
that get displaced
in New York
could easily
end up here.
We're not
remote.
We're,
I don't know
what you would
call this area,
suburban,
I guess.
Suburban.
Suburbia.
Maybe a little more remote than suburbia.
Maybe, yeah.
But it's not super remote.
Right.
It's not like-
It's not a map.
It's not like Dakwa, Maine.
Right.
Or anything like that.
So I think those people are going to come here
or just use New York City for a center point
and go out 500 mile radius from New York City.
That's Ohio, Pennsylvania.
Right.
That's where they're going to go.
They're probably going to go that way before they come to Maine.
I would think so.
Upstate New York, just because it's right there.
Yeah.
But that's cold up there.
If you really had to survive to live off the land and it got that bad,
you'd probably move out of Maine and go somewhere else.
Because the weather's just so bad.
Just fertile.
Yeah, exactly.
You know, in the food, you know, in that.
You wouldn't want to.
Although we do pretty good farming in Maine, though.
In the river valleys.
Yeah, I know.
We do good right in this area.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, there's a big river here, so that's why.
But I don't think there's going to be any lumber industry.
You know, if things get bad,
there's not going to be any fuel to make lumber with. Right. You know, you're going to be any lumber industry you know if things get bad there's not going to be any fuel to make
lumber with right you know you're going to be making earth houses sod houses you're going to be
making log cabins again i don't can't fathom it ever getting that bad but
so you stockpile ammo yeah that would and how to make ammo it should be a reload
component primers are tough you couldn't get primers for a long time.
What calibers do you reload?
All the ones that are expensive to buy, like.38 Special,.357.
.45-70.
.45-70, definitely, yeah.
I like 6.5 Creed more.
It's kind of a new caliber.
It's a nice, soft-shooting, versatile.
.308 is the Swiss Army knife of all.
And.30-06.
.30-08,.30-06, any of those.
The.30-30 is good.
Yep.
You know, stay away from oddball calibers that are going to be hard to get.
Like what?
Oh, I don't know.
All these new ones that come out, 6.8 PRC and all, you know.
Unless you reload, how much ammo are you going to need to feed your family?
You're not going to, you know, if you've got 10 boxes of shells for your.30-06,
you're going to feed the family for the rest of your existence.
But it sounds like I asked you why you stockpile ammo and you didn't.
You mentioned the Exodus from New York City.
Right.
Yeah, I think that that's not that I would be able to stop.
I mean, I'm 52 years old and pretty good working physical shape, but I'm certainly not an athlete by any means.
I think 10 good strong guys from New York City could probably overtake me with all the ammo that I have.
You think so?
Yeah, I think they, I might stop a couple of them, you know what I mean? But
I'm not that physically, I'm not a combat oriented type person. And I think they could definitely
overtake a farm with numbers, like a farm, like say there was 10 people on my farm. They might
stay away if there was 10 people on my farm. There's only me and my wife and my parents. Yeah,
no, 10 people could, if it was just me, I think they probably could.
Being realistic, we all like to think we're a badass, but, you know.
And if they had guns, then they could really overtake you easy.
Yeah, for sure.
You know, because one guy with a gun is not going to be, you know, it's not like the movies.
You're not going to take out 10 guys with guns.
No, you're probably not.
No, especially if you've got like a 9mm pistol.
You're not going to take out.
Well, you don't believe in 9mm pistols?
They're good for me to, you know, anybody in this room.
But, yeah, you're not going to take somebody across the field with it.
You know,.308 is good.
So if you have to have one gun, what is it?
I'd have a rifle,.308 rifle.
I'd have maybe a handgun for close combat, but I wouldn't.
I'd like the military to take out the enemy before they get that close, you know,
which you would have to.
If you let 10 people assaulting you get close enough
within handgun range,
you're probably not going to get all 10 of them.
No, you're done.
You're done.
So you got to get them while they're out of,
and I'm not any kind of expert in this field at all,
just from watching movies and stuff.
You watch the guy in the movie that takes out all,
no, that's not realistic.
Yeah.
No, you got to get those people before they,
you know, at a hundred yards out.
A hundred yards is a long ways,
you know.
By the way,
just parenthetically,
the assassination attempt on Trump,
20-year-old kid,
no training,
formal training at all
with firearms.
He's on the roof
with a.223.
Yeah.
And a cop comes up behind him.
They have some kind of altercation.
The cop backs off.
The kid turns with iron sights
and makes a 140-yard shot
and grazes Trump's ear.
Right.
How would you assess that?
That's a long shot with open sight.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I thought.
Oh, I could have done that with my.303.
All these Navy SEALs on TV.
I can't hit, I mean, a.30-30,
which is a lot less accurate than a 2-2-3.
I mean, a nine-inch plate, a gong at 100 yards is that big.
Yeah.
If you can hit the gong open sights and make it ding,
you're pretty proud of yourself at 100 yards.
I can hit a deer at 100 yards, but a deer is bigger than Trump's head.
Yeah.
You know, and you aim for the deer's.
I shot a deer last year really close with a 30-30.
I aimed right where I was supposed to aim
and I hit him way in the back, broke his, killed him dead.
But I was, you know, a foot and a half off
from where I was aiming.
Right.
You know, so a deer is a big target.
So if you're lying on the roof of a building
and all of a sudden a cop comes up,
an armed police officer comes up
and you somehow
force him back, your adrenaline is pumping like never before in your life. And then you turn and
reset the shot at 140 yards with iron sights and you hit the man in the ear. That's pretty good.
That's ridiculous, right? Yeah. No, that's, if he had a scope, then he would be, that would be,
he probably, if he, that guy had a scope, Trump would be dead right now. If the scope was sighted in.
If it was sighted in, but also, I mean.
130 yards is, you know, they got the, all these guys will come on TV.
Oh, that's an easy shot.
Oh, it is.
That's a bootcamp shot.
Yeah.
Really okay, but.
It is, but.
The kid never was in bootcamp, so.
Right.
Yeah.
For the, when you deer hunt, you never, well, in Maine, we don't shoot anything over a hundred
yards.
There is no a hundred, in Maine, we don't shoot anything over 100 yards. There is no 100 yards in Maine.
Yeah, they're on a logging road or something.
You get to make a Hail Mary shot once in a while
when you see a deer a long ways away.
I shot a deer, I had a deer once that was 250 yards away.
I hit it and wounded it, so I felt bad.
I'm like, I'm not going to do that again.
Did you find him?
No, I never did.
Get a little bit of blood.
Actually, there was quite a bit of blood at first,
and blood dried up really fast, and I tracked it,
and I found its bed.
It was the snow.
I went out 10 o'clock at night to find it,
and it went down a big gully, up another big gully,
down another, down and up, going right straight uphill.
And I found a bed.
It was bedded in in the snow,
and there was a little spot of blood about the size of a quarter.
So I think he was probably okay. think i grazed him yep like trump got a lot of blood when trump got hit there was
quite a bit of blood you know he got grazed so you think good well i'm glad to hear you say that i
mean all these experts on tv yeah i mean i mean i can easily i can shoot something i couldn't shoot
i'd shoot a deer at 250 yards with my with.5 Creedmoor, 308, 306.
I could easily sight it.
I don't sight my guns in for that range because I don't hunt that range.
So they're sighted in for 100 yards.
Now, I'll just make these numbers up, but a 308 between 100 and, say, 300 yards,
it's like 18 inches or something like that.
It's quite a drop.
So you really want to, unless you've got the scope with the little slash marks in it for different ranges.
If you're into that stuff, that's fine.
I'm sure you can do those shots, but most hunters don't do those shots.
It takes a little bit of the sporting aspect out of hunting.
For me, it does.
But then again, there's a sporting aspect of holy smokes, I'm'm a really good shot, and I shot a deer at 600 yards.
Right.
So that's the sporting aspect of that.
You know what I mean?
You can be a sport by sneaking up to within 50 yards of the animal.
You can be a sport by being a really good shot and shooting it.
So that's just a personal preference for me.
Is.223 flat out to 140?
Yeah, pretty flat.
Yeah.
Okay. Pretty flat. It's a light bullet. Is.223 flat out to 140? Yeah, pretty flat. Yeah. Okay.
Pretty flat.
It's a light bullet.
You know, it does a lot of damage.
Oh, I know it does.
You know, it's a zinger bullet.
Ask anybody that's in the military, they'll tell you that they do a lot of damage.
Yeah.
You know, they claim, like, it's a solid, I don't know what he had for bullets. They call the, whenever there's a mass shooting,
they say he had special bullets, exploding bullets.
All it is is he had like soft point bullets
that you would use for deer hunting.
Yeah.
Which, you know, in a civilian situation,
it does more damage to the deer
because it mushrooms when it goes in
and it tears apart more tissue,
but it doesn't penetrate.
Like a ball ammo penetrates a lot better.
It'll go through a shirt or a leather jacket a lot better.
And they claim on the ball ammo, like a.223, when it goes in there, it's going so fast it turns sideways.
Right.
It tumbles.
I wouldn't want to get it with any bullet.
I agree with that.
People spend too much time on what kind of bullet to use and just make sure you're using the bullet that hits where you're aiming.
Is that the...
If you got your gun sighted in for...
Are they advertised that way in the gun shop,
this bullet will hit what it's aimed at?
Yeah, no.
Most people don't get overly fussy with accuracy,
which they shouldn't.
That shouldn't be your,
you should just be happy with what,
if you're shooting something
at 25 feet
and you can hit it
at 25 feet,
if you can hit a person
at 25 feet
with your little
nine millimeter,
that's,
you're not going to get
any better than that.
You're not going to hit
a golf ball at 50 yards
with a nine millimeter.
No.
I mean,
I do,
but that's an extraordinary skill.
You can,
I mean,
if you practice,
practice and practice,
you know,
I can hit the, you can hit with a pistol resting.
You've shot with me before.
We've hit little targets at 50 yards.
Yep.
Two out of six times.
Yeah.
But you know that time you miss, you're still pretty close to it.
If you're hitting it two out of six times, the other four times,
you're probably within a kill range of a person. So, yeah, people get yeah people get too carried up but yeah that back to the 130 yard shot thing holy smokes
that's that's a long shot for most hunters i don't know about nowadays although you watch all the
hunting shows and they're shooting the guns and the the feeder comes on the deer comes out you
know you hear the feeder in the hunting show.
Then they leave the deer overnight.
Yeah, then they leave the deer overnight and go.
So yeah, they do make long shots.
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So what's the mindset you were talking about?
You said when I said what successful prepping look like,
you said it's changing your mind.
Yeah, your mindset's the whole, getting your family ready for,
I don't want to offend anybody doing this.
Go ahead.
I don't want to offend, I don't know.
I consider myself a rich person.
I mean, I get everything I want in life,
but I don't want to offend people that say people that depend on everything. Like the person that goes into a house or something and the door doesn't open correctly and they call somebody to fix it.
Instead of just lifting up on the door a little bit and closing it.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
They, oh my God, the door doesn't work.
The door is broken.
I just lift up on a little bit.
The house moves a little bit.
It only does that in August, you know?
Exactly.
You know, they just got to be ready for a world where everything's not taken care of for them.
You know, there's no door dash.
There's no going to the store and getting your stuff already made because there is no store.
You know, there is no gas to get to the store.
You know, and I really don't think it's ever going to get to that point in my life.
I hope it doesn't.
I mean, I don't want that.
I mean, we live in a beautiful world.
We're very relaxed.
Earning and making money is the easiest part of life.
I mean, that's the simple part.
That's all the other little bullshit that comes along with it that makes it hard. But yeah, you got to get the mindset of, okay, if things get bad, okay, I'm going to have
to probably abandon your house in Washington, D.C.
I don't know if you're going to get any money for it, if there is any money.
Yeah.
You know, what is money?
Right.
It's just a bunch of stuff on computers.
As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't mean anything.
Yeah.
And so, okay, I'm going to have to abandon my house in D.C.
Might as well leave your car in D.C.
or hope you got enough gas to get to Maine in your car
and hope it's not a big funnel of, like I say, Maine's probably a pretty good place.
Not too many people are going to go to Maine when it gets that bad.
Right.
They're going to go to Florida or South Carolina or somewhere.
For sure.
For sure.
They're not going to go to Maine.
So we're probably pretty safe.
You know, think it, look at it that way.
I take, you know, look back at the earlier part of the conversation.
No, we're probably pretty safe up here.
Well, that's the hope.
Bad weather keeps bad people out.
Yeah.
But yeah, you got to get that mindset of, you know, okay, we're just going to have to
live the, and maybe practice it a little bit.
Maybe instead of going on vacation to some resort in the Caribbean or the French Riviera or something,
take your family to, you know.
The woods?
To Subumac, you know, and stay there for two weeks in a tent and just have fun.
You know, don't have them do fire drills or, you know, just go and shoot some tin cans with the.22
and, you know, kind of and shoot some tin cans with the 22 and, you know, make,
kind of make a game out of it. Like, you know, everybody will talk, well, I don't want to live
in a world if it gets like that, that will be awful. No, it's not going to be awful. You're
going to survive. They, it's happened many times in history, right? I mean, many cultures have
been through that type of. Well, so you're 52. I remember this area, you know, 50 years ago. And people kind of lived that way much closer to that,
even then, not that long ago, really.
Right, right.
I mean, did your mom grow up in a house with running water?
No, I don't think that the farm that they grew up in here
didn't have running water.
When they moved to Bethel, I don't think they got it shortly,
but I think they had an outhouse. I know that. Yeah. Yeah. And I know they didn't have electricity.
We had a bad well when I was a kid, which was no, it didn't phase anybody a bit. Our well would go
dry in the summertime. I remember that. And you know, wells were expensive, $5,000 to get a well
drilled back then, probably 20,000 now. So we just filled up five-gallon buckets, and that's how we flushed it.
It wasn't a, I took showers at my grandmother's house,
you know, in the summer when it was dry, not all year.
You know, so it wasn't a, you know,
maybe have your, maybe shut the water,
maybe cut the power off to your house for a week
when you're family, just to see how it, you know,
just not as a punishment or to be mean or anything like that.
Like, hey, let's make some fun out of this.
Let's cook our food outside.
You don't have to go kill a deer or anything like that, but buy a leg of lamb at the store.
And let's just cook this on the fire outside.
We're going to shut the electricity off for a week.
We'll read some books or maybe shut your phone off.
I don't know if the phones will go bad when all the bad things happen.
Who knows what's going to happen?
We don't know what's going to happen.
It could be a, what do they call the bomb when it wipes out all the electrical?
Like the neutron bomb?
Yeah, all the electrical waves.
Oh, the EMP attack.
Yeah, EMP, yeah.
Yeah, I don't, you know, that's probably would just really freak people out.
Take a kid's cell phone away when he tries to go to school and see how they act.
They don't like that very much.
They don't?
No.
It's in the paper all the time.
They're trying.
Schools have policies that the kids aren't supposed to have the cell phone in school,
which is obvious.
Why should a kid have a cell phone in school?
Yeah.
And the schools can't take the cell phones away from the kids.
They're like, it's not going well for them. Really? Yeah, it's awesome. His kids are so addicted to it. Yeah. And the schools can't take the cell phones away from the kids. They're like, it's not going well for them.
Really?
Yeah.
His kids are so addicted to it.
Yeah.
And the parents are like, no, my kid has to have the cell phone.
So now they're making the kid try to get the kid to keep the thing in the
locker during class.
So in between class, they just go to their locker and get out the cell phone.
You know, who can afford a, whose kid can afford a cell phone?
That's what I'm saying.
You know what I mean?
At that.
And they're talking about, and this is the news.
I don't have kids, so I don't know.
Maybe it's a different world we live in and I'm not up to date on that.
But why does a eighth grader have a cell phone?
Well, because they're only $1,000.
You know, who can afford a cell phone for an eighth grader?
You know, working, or who wants to?
Who would want to waste their money?
Why does the eighth grader need us?
The kid, the school gives them computers.
They all have a laptop.
Right.
The politicians did that.
So every kid has a laptop.
Then the kid's parents were like selling the, pawning the laptops to buy drugs with.
That was funny on that.
Oh, you liked that, huh?
It was pretty cool because we knew it was going to happen, right?
So. Yeah, get your family ready.
I mean, interrupt you, but just to finish that other thing is get your family ready.
Just have them, and don't make a work thing out.
Don't make doing firewood a chore or something.
You can't have fun today because we have to do firewood.
We're going to have fun today and do firewood, you know.
Play some music while they're stacking the wood, you know.
You get six of your family members together to do the firewood.
It goes pretty fast.
Did you do firewood as a kid?
Oh, yeah.
I loved cutting wood.
I love firewood.
It's kind of like I hate painting, but there are certain times when I don't mind painting
if I just want to forget about something.
Yep.
Like simple little chores like that are so like weed whacking.
The best.
Chainsawing.
Just going through the woods and cutting up a bunch of dead trees with a chainsaw for
no reason.
I used to go after tapings if I was feeling tense to go out in the woods and cut, as you
know. Yeah. But then I put that ethanol in the woods and cut, as you know.
Yeah.
But then I put that ethanol gas in my chainsaw.
Then you got the electric chainsaw.
I got the electric chainsaw.
Do you remember that?
That was fun, though.
I mean, it was fine.
The electric chainsaw was fine, but-
Good for about an hour.
It's good for about an hour.
It's exactly right.
Yeah.
No, so make a game out of things.
Like, don't, you know, buy your kid a dirt bike that's fine
yeah you know but don't don't i had dirt bikes and snowmobiles when i was a kid but i remember my
and i was around my grandfather a lot because he lived right next door and he was retired so
i was around him a lot and he'd be like no we don't have any you know that's enough gas for
today and i was fine with it i was like, I get to ride it for a couple hours.
But gas was pretty expensive when I was a kid.
Yeah.
Early 80s.
Wasn't cheap.
I think it was like a buck 70.
One time there, it was what, like a buck 70 a gallon or something like that.
And it dropped at the end of the 80s.
Yeah, at the end of the 80s, it went back down to like a buck a gallon.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But, you know, my grandfather, you know, he filling up to have somebody fill up a five-gallon can
for me to ride a snowmobile around in a field was a big deal.
I mean, it was a luxury for me as a kid.
And it was, I appreciated it.
You know, I'd say, geez, can I have two gallons of gas today?
Yeah, okay.
You know, whoops, you helped with the firewood.
You're going to have some gas, you know.
Did you help with your grandparents' firewood also?
Yeah.
He burned a lot.
He had a big farmhouse.
He split.
He did his wood by hand.
Really?
Yeah.
He cut it with a chainsaw, but he would line them all up, split them by hand, line them up on the road.
He had a whole line of firewood, split it by hand.
Then he had a chute that went down into a cellar.
We'd all get together and throw it in the cellar.
How much did he burn in the winter?
I'd say about 10 gourd.
He burned a lot.
He had a big farmhouse.
Then when he got older,
they put an oil furnace in
because he was like in his 80s
and it was too much for him
to do the firewood.
Do you notice a difference
between wood heat and oil heat?
Oh, yeah, definitely.
It's not.
Oil heat's fast, faster,
and you come into your house.
But if you come home
from a day of being out
just soaked to the bone, like say you come home from a day of being out,
just soaked to the bone,
like say you're doing carpentry all day in the cold and your hands are just frozen
and your feet are wet
and you're just cold, stinging cold,
and you just stand in front of that wood stove
and it just, it almost burns as you're warming up.
You know, you almost have to step away from it.
It's like, okay, too hot, too fast.
Like jumping in a hot tub when you're cold.
It kind of burns.
But it heats you.
It will warm your core up.
Now, standing in front of a register, a radiator in the hallway, you don't.
A forced air vent.
Yeah, forced air.
Forced air is actually better than a register, I think.
Than a forced air vent that's actually warm air blowing on you.
That feels pretty good.
I like forced air better than the radiant heat myself.
Really?
Yeah.
Because the radiant heat's kind of, it's just there, but it's not hot.
It's just like a constant, if you were frozen and you were laying next to a radiator or a radiant heat system, it would take a long time to warm up.
But a forced air one's blowing warm air on you.
It seems to just warm you up a little bit faster.
Do you think any of the people who run our country could answer any of the questions I've asked you?
I don't know.
They put the people that, well, you talk about it all the time.
The most retarded people in charge.
Yeah, they could put the guy that can't do eighth grade math in charge of the energy grid, you know.
And then, okay, maybe he's a good leader, right?
You really, and I want to bug, we'll get back to that, but he's a good leader, right?
Okay.
So he can't do eighth grade math, but he's a good organizer.
He's a good leader. He's going to hire a bunch of engineers, guys who went to MIT and good common sense people.
No, he doesn't hire the engineers.
He doesn't even hire those people.
Who does he hire?
He just hires more people just like him, just more like-minded people like him that have the same.
I'll just make these numbers.
I tried to do some of this research right before I got here.
Have you ever looked up on the internet, like,
how much electricity a windmill produces
or how much electricity a ski lift uses?
No.
There's like no, you know, don't trust everything you read on the internet.
Very vague answers in a lot of that stuff.
Really?
Yeah.
You know, you think it'd be cut and dry.
Of course.
Like a, you know, a windmill puts out so many kilowatts
and a chairlift uses this many.
Well, and they just go around in a circle.
Well, it depends on how long the chairlift is
and how many chairs.
Well, obviously it depends on that.
How about the average chairlift?
Yeah, the average chairlift.
How about the average windmill in an average year?
Right, yeah.
You can get those specs on your truck.
It'll tell you exactly how many horsepower in certain circumstances.
Right, but then look up how much it costs to charge your Cybertruck.
And it's like, well, it depends on where you live.
Which it does depend on where you live and the electricity rates.
It might be 18 cents a kilowatt hour here.
It might be 23 cents here.
But you could say, okay, it costs 50 bucks to charge your,
you know, they don't give the, they just lead you around in a circle because they're trying
to push all this stuff on you. Like I read somewhere that the, I mean, I don't believe
everything I read, especially on that because, you know, the wackos that are trying to push all
the stuff on you are really, really, you know, leading you down the wrong path. And the wackos that are trying to push all this stuff on you are really, really leading you down the wrong path.
And the wackos that are trying to disprove them are really, really pulling you off the other path.
Like, oh, the wind never blows.
But I looked up a thing for how much energy it took to run the New York subway.
Because I know trains use a lot of power.
Yeah.
And the thing that, and I did all the math of the kilowatt hours
and how much it was just getting, I'm not an engineer,
and it was very misleading, the information that the solar panel companies
were putting out.
And then I read somewhere, I read this article, and the guy said, yeah,
like the size of Arizona solar panels, just to run the New York subway, not the city. To start a subway car,
just to get the subway car rolling with 10 units hooked to the motor, to the engine,
just to get it rolling, not to keep it going, just to get it rolling, would power 1,300 average homes for a year.
No way.
Yeah, because it takes a lot of power to get electricity going.
Yes.
Like the local sawmill in the local ski area have to coordinate with, well, they used to, probably not now, but the mills in areas have to coordinate with a power grid of when they're going to start their shifts. If they're running shifts and the machines aren't running.
Because you can't turn on that sawmill and turn on all the chairlifts at the same time.
It uses that much energy to get it going.
So sawmill's electric?
Yeah.
The big ones, like the big, big sawmills.
You know, the huge ones.
Why?
Well, that's what runs the blade on the...
Yeah, but why not diesel or gasoline?
Oh, it's just smoother motor.
I mean, less vibration,
and you don't want that big diesel motor
humming next to your head all day.
It might be electric.
A lot of sawmills will have their own power plant.
They'll have two big diesel generators
out back running that run the electric motors.
Like an asphalt plant has a big diesel motor
that the asphalt plant's all electric,
but we had a diesel motor sitting there,
like a train.
Yeah.
A train, you see the black smoke
rolling out of the train going down the tracks.
It's an electric motor.
It's just a diesel generator
powering the electric motor.
So if we go to electric vehicles
and AI is running them.
In 2030, Vermont has to be 100% electric.
They've passed the law already.
What does that mean, 100%?
I don't know.
Well, the sale of electric.
Is that simple?
So you live very dangerously close to Vermont.
Yeah.
Do you ever go over there?
Yeah, we used to go to Vermont quite often.
My parents had a monument gravestone business,
and that's where we got our stones.
So I've been to Vermont a lot back and forth.
Yeah.
And yeah, that's like Maine.
If you drive down across Route 2 to Vermont, it's the same.
A little more mountainous over there through Mount Washington, but for the most part, it's the same.
But not everyone in the – I mean, a lot of normal people in Vermont.
Yeah, I know.
A lot of rednecks over there and regular people.
So they're all going to have to go electric, like electric chainsaw?
When they pass one of those bills, I mean, this might be one of those questions that nobody knows the answer to.
When they pass one of those bills, like California passed a bill, all electric by 2035, what does that mean?
Does anybody actually know?
Does that mean that they're really not going to sell any gasoline vehicles in California after 2035?
Can they change that?
A lot of electric motors are powered by diesel generators.
Ski areas.
A lot of ski lifts have the diesel motor sitting right there on the chairlift itself.
You'll see this, you know, a lot of ski areas have the diesel motor that powers the electric.
Or it's a diesel.
Some are just direct drive diesel lifts.
So I'm starting to think that reality is not going to catch up to these laws.
Yeah, I don't know.
Unless they come up with some kind of batteries.
Like the Cybertruck that we're testing right now, I went 140 miles yesterday and I was at about 50%.
That's fine for me.
I very rarely drive 200 miles a day.
But if I had to all of a sudden go somewhere at the end of the day, like, holy shit, I got to drive.
There's a family emergency.
Or I'm out of beer.
Yeah, I'm out of beer.
Yeah, there's a family emergency in New York City or South Carolina,
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Oh, shit, my car's only half full now.
I got to wait 20 minutes for it to charge, or I have to go buy a super.
When I went to get that cement yesterday, I was like,
well, maybe I might have to charge this getting that cement,
because I didn't know.
I've never been on a long trip with it.
So I'm looking up supercharging stations on the way to the cement place.
No, there isn't any.
There's slow charging stations that take eight hours.
It's just a 120-volt plug.
Well, probably a 220 plug.
Yeah, I charge it at my house with 220.
But yeah, the electric, the power grid and the diesel and the nuclear would be great.
Hydro dams would be Canada.
Doesn't Canada get all this power from hydro?
Like all of it, right?
They own the hydro dams in Maine, Brookfield.
Right.
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You're just pulling energy off of something that's constantly producing energy.
Yeah, you're not building a dam.
Right.
So you go to a place where the river's always deep and, you know, wide and deep, you know, a flat spot in the river where there's no, and you just tap into the, and they're doing that.
There's technology for that.
It's not hurting.
Why are they so against that?
Because they're not pushing their solar panels and their windmills that they've got invested in.
You know, you read about all these politicians that got rich off the, and people don't like reading that.
Six-pack Joe going to the store,
reading the paper that so-and-so politician
has all of a sudden got rich off windmills.
He's not dumb.
He can figure out what's going on.
The windmill project in Rhode Island,
according to the, I watch a lot of YouTube.
It's very, it's good.
I mean, it's almost a default.
Most people I know, it's their default TV now is YouTube.
I mean, the windmill project in Rhode Island, I don't know the name of the project, but
it's in the news all the time.
Offshore windmills.
Yeah.
Offshore windmills in the ocean.
So the Kennedy type people don't want it because it's in their backyard. And the Obamas, people that live in Nantucket and Rhode Island and all those fancy places don't want it.
They want to put them up in Rangeley, Maine.
Because we don't care up here.
What do we care?
About natural beauty and living a decent life. But that windmill is huge
and it provides one 700th.
And the guy,
he wrote it out on a piece of paper
and did the math of the kilowatt hours.
He was smarter than I was.
One 700th of the electricity
that it takes to power,
not just the area that it's going to power,
but Rhode Island,
which is the size
of that coffee cup.
So the windmill project, with the wind blowing, a 700th of what Rhode Island uses for power.
And they've shut down either one or two big power plants in Rhode Island.
And they wrecked a commercial fishery, too.
And they wrecked a commercial fishery, too.
And the windmills were already falling apart out in the ocean.
One came apart.
I don't know where it was.
It was on the news.
I just kind of laughed when I walked by the TV because the windmill was all,
the blade was sticking down in the ocean.
And the environmentalist people were worried that the material that the blade
was made out of was going to poison the fish.
So who said that it's okay to,
well, I guess windmills would be our biggest thing here.
Solar panels are pretty,
there's a few solar farms around,
but they're small,
maybe 10 acres or something.
So they're not too offensive yet.
They're not,
well, I don't know,
when you get off the turnpike
and gray,
that one's kind of offensive
when I say that one.
It used to be cows in that field.
Now there's windmills. I mean, now there's
solar panels. But the windmill, I mean, who's to dynamite the top
of a mountain? You got to build a road up there to get the windmill projects to use. My neighbor
does them. And you got to blast the top of a mountain
range. Blast it. Just to flatten off a spot to put
these windmills. And build a road to it and
maintain the road to it and the erosion from maintaining the road every who's you know have
they it's like cash for clunkers when they wanted in what was that early 2000s trade in your obama
yeah yeah trade in trade in your uh you know ford bronco for a for a toyota tacoma and you got
four thousand dollars for your Ford Bronco.
Well, sounds great.
Yeah, you're driving something that gets 25 miles a gallon
versus something that gets 15 miles to the gallon.
But the natural resources that it took to build that better gas mileage car
versus keeping that Ford Bronco on the road
and not minding all that new steel and rubber and all the resources that it takes to build that car.
They didn't really factor that into the point.
Okay, this guy's only driving 5,000 miles a year in his 96 Bronco that gets 10 miles to the gallon.
So you give him $4,000 of our money to buy a Toyota Tacoma that gets better gas mileage.
They're all going to be off the road in 10 years, rusted out anyway.
But maybe he's maintaining that Bronco.
Maybe it's not rusted or just anything.
It doesn't matter.
But why is that better to just junk that and get rid of it and buy the new car?
Someone's getting rich from it.
Someone got, and that was a whole scam on the Cash for Clunkers.
I don't know if you have ever reported on that,
but I don't remember the particulars of it, but it was a scam.
I mean, they got rich on it.
It's all a scam and nothing's a bigger scam than wind power.
Yeah, that's like, that's huge.
You read those articles and they're not on the everyday news,
but there's been articles on the local papers about the scamming.
Have you ever shot one with a.308?
I'd love to shoot one.
They were going to put them behind my house on my mountain.
That was a big thing.
Oh, yeah, my wife was going to the meetings
and my neighbor had the signs up, no windmills, and the bat.
There was a species of bat up there that was rare or a breeding ground for
bat breeding grounds and that was apparently why they didn't do it and the money for them
i think when trump got in didn't a lot of that stuff dry up i don't know probably not i think
i don't know but something happened politically but it was a bat thing that was holding them back
and that was what in this And they still have a hundred year
I don't know if it's a lease
or an agreement that they could still go up there and do it.
If they put those windmills
in, what caliber rifle
would have stopped them, do you think?
I don't know. I think you've got to hit them right
in the middle. I don't think
a bullet hole through the tip of the
wing is going to... It's like shooting an airplane
with a bullet in the wing. It's really not going to, it's like shooting an airplane with a bullet in the wing.
It's really not going to stop the plane.
You got to hit the guts of it, you know, you really get it.
And this is going to, I'm usually right about these kinds of things.
Okay.
In 50 years, when these windmills are probably 30 years old, these windmills are abandoned
and falling apart.
You know, they're just, nobody's taking care of them anymore.
The whole industry is bankrupt. They're falling over on the side of the
mountain. They're just wasted.
People are going to go there
and there's going to be no frigging wire going to the thing to start
with. It's that much of a scam. Like, there's not
even a wire going to the thing. That's my
prediction. So you think we're going to discover
this whole thing is bullshit.
They're not actually producing power. Yeah, they're not even hooked up.
There's nothing on the inside. It's just big blades.
There's no generator on the inside or anything.
I'm that much of a weirdo that I think.
I don't think that's weird at all.
I don't think it's weird at all.
This kid, this 20-year-old kid with no training
just shot Trump at 140 yards with a.223.
Right.
Anything is possible.
That's for sure, yeah.
Have you ever been up and poked around the windmills?
I've never been...
Not those big ones. I mean, I've been up
towers and stuff. I've climbed towers before,
but I've never been up a windmill tower. No, I don't like
getting near them. I don't know.
What do you mean? I don't know. They're just not...
They're not scenic. I don't want to spend...
I'm not going to go to take my vacation
in the Bronx. I'm not going to go hang out
next to a friggin' windmill.
It's basically the same thing to me.
My friend has a camp.
You've been there where you look out the porch and you see the 22 windmills on the mountain.
I don't know.
It kind of ruins it for me.
I agree.
Maybe I'm just being selfish.
I don't know.
No, they're being selfish, actually.
Right. They're moving them into poor areas
where the towns have been depopulated
because of changes that they instituted
to our economy,
and the town can't say no
because they need the money.
Right.
Yeah, they're buying off the people
that can be bought off.
Yeah.
Cheap.
Yeah.
And it's, you know,
it's like selling the family farm
to send your kid to college
type of theory, right?
Is it such a good idea that we're doing this?
Selling our mountaintops to the windmill people for some quick cash right now?
Is that the best thing for our future?
Probably not.
It actually sounds like a crime.
It should be.
Especially when there's no vote on it.
Like, you know, I hate to pick on rich people, but the rich people own the land.
Yeah.
And they're selling basically, they're not really doing anything with it.
They log it.
We've been logging it for years.
The poor people do benefit from it.
The working class, the paper mills benefit from it.
Okay.
That industry is kind of drying up from what we saw the other day.
And okay, well, this is our last chance to get just a little bit more money out of that
land.
Well, some frigging scam deal with the government to put windmills on it, you know.
One last little push.
Give the little people a little something so they can build a new school or something
out of the money or put a new road in or something.
They're selling their soul.
You really are.
You always feel when you sell land.
I've sold land before, you know, kind of because I had to or I was moving or relocating or I needed the money.
And it just felt so soul burning.
Like I didn't feel good afterwards.
No, you shouldn't.
After I sell that land.
I mean, I had to, and no regrets against it.
You know, I got a lot of land now, so I made out better, you know.
Yeah.
I think I bettered myself doing it.
But while I was doing it, I'm like, man, I'm selling land that belonged to my grandfather.
Like, I really don't, I just don't feel good.
Even though it wasn't much, it was only a couple of acres.
You know, I needed to pay some bills and buy some stuff.
But I'm like, I just don't feel good doing this.
I think that's right.
Yeah.
When those windmills break, who's going to cart them off?
What happens to them?
They're big.
You ever seen one going down the road, the blade?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, they take up the whole road.
I don't know.
The motors on the inside and the bearings, the construction company in town bought a crane, like a $4 million crane just to work on them.
You need that big equipment.
So you can't tell me that going around and maintaining, there's a lot of windmills in Maine now.
They're everywhere.
Yeah.
And they still only provide supposedly 16% of the power for Maine.
Now, I don't, they say to Maine, that's another thing. provide supposedly 16% of the power for Maine.
Now, I don't, they say to Maine,
that's another thing when you read these things,
you have to really watch what you read because the 16% of the power for Maine is the residents.
And then another article said that that doesn't,
I don't know if this is true or not,
it's just what I read on the internet,
that that doesn't include industrial power.
The resident, well, houses use very little electricity.
It doesn't take much to power the houses in Maine.
They use most of the electricity,
but they use very little.
Right.
You know, but the factories and stuff,
and, you know, they use power.
Ski areas use a shitload of power, you know.
What do you think of ski areas?
I like to ski.
I've always skied i don't ski
anymore just i don't it's too crowded for me now you know i don't it's like waiting in line at
walmart when i go skiing that's what i feel like i'm doing but yeah i don't know it's like it's
another thing kind of selling your soul you know all right let's like i said bulldoze the top of
this mountain off and cut all the trees and cause a shitload of erosion just so a bunch of rich people can slide down the hill.
You don't see too many poor people skiing.
You don't?
No.
They don't have ghetto day at the ski area?
No.
It's like golf courses.
Golf courses are beautiful.
And I think once something is done, I think it's one thing. Like once a wind farm is in or once a ski area is constructed, I think the damage is done and Mother Nature kind of heals itself and does what it's going to do.
But it's the process of it can kill a lot of fish, I'm sure.
I mean, fish biologists will tell you that golf courses are the worst thing for fish.
For sure. You know, golf courses are the worst thing for fish. For sure.
You know, golf courses, I don't play, I enjoy, I like looking at golf courses.
They're beautiful, they're mowed, I like nice, you know, they look nice, they got the trees and everything.
But man, you can't look at a golf course and just think, man, why, who thought this was a good idea to fill in this swamp and bulldoze all this land and flatten it off and cut all the trees just so I can hit this little white ball into a hole. Who had that vision that
that's what we should be doing with this land? Same thing with the ski area. Looking at the
beautiful mountain and you get this ski lift going up the side, who thought, oh Jesus, what a great
place for a ski area? I guess it's your personal preference.
If you really like skiing, I don't know.
But not me, personally.
I'd be like, no, don't put a ski area there.
Why would you want a ski area there?
When you just want to hike to the top of the mountain on your snowshoes
without the skier.
Have the skiers shut the lifts down for a while.
Nothing against skiing.
I love skiing. I'm a good skier. I skied my down for a while. Nothing against skiing. I love skiing.
I'm a good skier.
I skied my whole life.
You know, I skied in Colorado.
I love skiing.
So I'm not bashing ski areas, but it just, you know, it's almost like enough's enough.
Try walk to the top of the mountain and ski down.
You know, then you've accomplished something.
Yeah.
Fewer runs that way.
Yeah, but you've accomplished something.
That's right.
You've actually done something that day. Hopping on the chairlift, riding to the top and sliding down. You haven't accomplished anything. No. Fewer runs that way. Yeah, but you've accomplished something. That's right. You've actually done something that day.
Hopping on the chairlift
riding to the top
and sliding down,
you haven't accomplished
anything.
No, that's true.
You drove there in your car,
you hopped on the chairlift,
you rode to the top
of the mountain,
you slid down the other side
on your skis.
You didn't do anything.
You know,
yeah, you've,
you know,
you got to be in good shape
to ski.
I mean,
it's a young person sport
or a person in good shape, but you don't have to be in that good of shape. I can ski. I'm be in good shape to ski. I mean, it's a young person sport or a person in good shape,
but you don't have to be in that good of shape.
I can ski.
I'm not in good shape.
Yeah, I don't know.
It just seemed like the wrong thing to do.
Then you see the development around any resort,
whether it's a ski area or a golf course
or you can't think of any other kind of resorts that they have.
Really, that's about it, I guess.
The development around them is the big thing.
Look at the housing developments and the condos and other mountain bulldozers over here.
So these people can look at that ski area.
Oh, I want to view with a ski area.
I mean, that's personal preference.
I'm not putting those people down.
Just,
it doesn't,
doesn't,
nature-wise and environmentally,
environmentally,
it certainly doesn't
sound like a good idea.
I don't think you need
much environmental education
to figure out
that it's not good.
Yeah.
You know,
I think eighth grade
earth science
would tell you
that that's not
a good thing to do.
Like,
you know,
paving a road
to the top of the mountain
so you can have views.
But it's been like that in Europe for a long time, right?
There's a lot of that in Europe, right?
Ski areas and development.
Oh, yeah.
And it's been fine over there.
I mean, Mother Nature does heal itself around those things.
So it's probably not long-term that big a deal
for the environment.
I don't know.
It just seems like a short-term thing to me.
If we have a massive economic downturn, I mean, a lot of this stuff will heal itself, as you said.
Right.
Anyway.
Yeah.
I think, yeah, if those houses get abandoned, you've seen abandoned towns.
Yeah.
I looked up the post that I was stationed at in Germany, and it was abandoned.
I don't know what they use it for now, but basically abandoned.
And they were like stucco German, stucco-type buildings like you see in Germany.
And it was like gone.
Like the earth had already swallowed up all those buildings.
Really?
Yeah.
It was like everything's falling down.
The grass is growing.
Trees growing up through everything.
Just like when you find an old logging camp in the woods, you'll find the stove and all the stuff in the tree growing up through everything.
Find a stone wall in a cellar hole.
Yeah, a stone wall in a cellar hole with a 200-year-old tree in the middle of it.
Yeah, exactly.
So I think Mother Nature will recover.
It's just an aesthetic thing for me, I would say.
I don't like the washouts or the erosion.
I don't like building.
You shouldn't be building roads up mountains anyway.
Sometimes you have to to get to the next town or economic reasons.
But yeah, just for recreation, build a road up the side of a mountain that causes a shitload of erosion.
No, that's not a good idea.
I did that kind of work too i did that for years and i oh my i wouldn't have what i have right now if it
wasn't for the ski area you know i worked up there for doing landscaping and carpentry and stuff for
years excavation so i i feel bad bashing it but it'd be like if you worked for a company that
installed windmills and you made a lot of money doing it, say you were a truck driver for the company that put in windmills.
I mean, you can still hate windmills, right?
And still enjoy your job.
I don't know.
I can't relate.
I mean, it's not like I worked for media companies that lied to the population of the country I was born in, like justified pointless wars through fear.
But you still love those media companies.
Oh, I love them.
I don't judge at I love them. Yeah, yeah.
I don't judge at all.
Right, yeah.
So we all get stuck in the hypocrisy of,
you know, nobody's above hypocrisy.
That's for sure.
That's for sure.
You know, we all get stuck, you know, the guy that, but then you see the people that go skiing with the Subaru
and the Save the Planet Earth sticker,
but they're heading up to go skiing.
Now that bothers me.
You know, that's blatant hypocrisy there.
And they'll say, oh, there's solar panels on the side of the,
on the chairlift, so the chairlift's solar powered.
They should know better than that.
The solar panel on the building going into the chairlift,
it might power the guy's coffee pot at
best you know it's not they should know better than that i don't and it's our fault for let it
it's not it's not those it's not those people have very good intentions although we call i call
moon bats yeah all the moon bat people you know who i'm talking about i do you know you know but
i'm not putting them down they have the best intentions in the world.
They really honestly think that what they're doing is great.
I think they do feel deep down inside because those people aren't getting rich off it.
Right.
It's the politicians.
It's the politicians that are getting rich off it.
But those people are just kind of blind and naive.
And they really do believe that what they're fighting for is true.
And it's not their fault
that they're in charge now.
You look at all the moon bats.
You got people,
you got a woman running for president right now
that is not qualified to teach finger painting
for kindergarten kids.
Yeah.
I mean, it's your fault and my fault that she's in charge.
It's his fault that she's in charge.
It's not the rest of the Moonbats people in charge.
We let that happen.
We're the responsible adults in charge of all this stuff.
You know, we let that happen.
We let those people take over.
I mean, we tried our best to stop it, but we didn't do good enough.
Okay, now they're teaching.
I don't have kids, so I probably shouldn't say this,
but they're teaching, you know, whatever, a sophomore in high school
to get gender surgery.
You know, like, how did that happen?
Where did we take our eye off the ball long enough for, you know,
how did we take our eye off the ball long enough for, you know, how'd we take our eye off the ball long enough to let Cam, Camela, what's her, Kamala?
Carmela.
You know how to say it.
I don't.
I don't know.
She doesn't know how to say it.
She says it a couple different.
I'm going to go with Campuchia, but whatever.
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How did we screw up?
You fought.
You fought your best.
You were on the news every night.
I did my best by bad mouthing her and everybody everybody at the chainsaw shop did their best but she still she still won yeah you know and
how did she win because we didn't we didn't we didn't try hard enough we didn't fight hard enough
we tried at january 6th that was like okay that was a very you know that was it we
i called you that day that afternoon i'm like freaking finally i was getting my hair cut i'll
never forget it and maybe you called me and you're like you're watching this it's the greatest
fucking thing i've ever seen i love it yeah they're sitting in a chair yeah you were the
only one who was excited about that and i was ashamed that i wasn't excited
about because you're absolutely right right it's the people's house yeah what are you joking the
crime is going into a building that you own right that's not a crime yeah you guys have totally
fucked up life as we know it yeah in this country a nice country to live in, you know, and you've twisted it all sideways
and you've got it all fucked up and wow.
You know, yeah, we got to take, we got to put the adults back in charge.
Okay, you guys have had your fun.
Yeah.
You know, go, we got plenty of jobs for you to do.
You know, you're still going to be important.
You're still going to have a purpose.
You can be a community organizer or you can do something like that, you know, but You're still going to be important. You're still going to have a purpose. You can be a community organizer.
You can do something like that.
But you don't want to give, I don't even know if they're qualified for that
because that's how they, what do you do with those people that want to let
14-year-old kids get sex changes?
What can you do with that person?
I'm not religious at all, but that's definitely the mark of the devil
or whatever they call it.
What would you do with them?
I don't know.
I mean, you've supervised a lot.
There's a lot of them
and there's a lot of people giving into it.
Like people that you would never suspect giving into that.
Well, it's not that bad.
So what the drag queen story hour in kindergarten, what does a kindergarten kid know? No, it's not that bad. So what, the drag queen story hour in kindergarten?
What does a kindergarten kid know?
No, it's pretty bad.
I don't care if a transgender person
reads a story to my kid.
They can babysit my kid.
I don't care.
If they're transgender,
that's fine.
But the way that they act
with the boobs hanging out
and the sexualized dancing
and all that.
No, I don't care what gender you are.
It's got nothing to do
with transgender.
You don't act that way around kids or, you know.
I don't go around.
I'm not going to go have a, it's a doggy style society, people.
We're going to have a parade.
All the people that like to do it doggy style,
we're just going to have a parade.
That'd be most people.
You know, we're not going to do that.
You don't do those kind of, you don't do a transgender sexual parade.
I've always thought that that would be the trigger for violence.
Cause someone got,
did that shit to my kids.
I shoot them without thinking.
I think it's going to come to that.
I think it's pretty,
it's so ridiculous.
Like if someone that's like,
that's a form of sexual abuse on my kids.
So that's the one thing you can allow.
You get beat up in the old days for doing that.
At very least, at very least It is. So that's the one thing you can't allow. You get beat up in the old days for doing that. At very least.
At very least beaten up.
So, and I'm utterly opposed to violence, as I often say, and you know me well, you know
that I actually am opposed to violence.
I'm not just saying I hate these wars.
I hate all this shit.
Right.
But if there's one excuse for violence, it's sexually abusing my children.
Right.
Or I'm not a good dad, if I'm allowing that.
And all these people are
allowing it it's like what's wrong with you right for real right what is wrong with people yeah it's
how did it that and people give the good people are giving up they're just saying well i don't
know if they don't want to i've heard people say like you know how can you let your kids do that
well all the rest of the kids are doing it, and they're all talking about that.
And there are certain things that kids do that you, like, you scold your kid for it,
but okay, all kids are going to do that.
They're going to steal your Playboy magazine, you know.
They're going to look at stuff like that.
You know, that's just, you punish them for it.
But I think that they want to fit in.
Like, I think there might be so many of those type of people now that people don't want to lose
their family members.
Well, that is true.
So they don't want to come disconnected because they love their family.
So like, okay, there's five people in the family that think the way I do, so-called
normal thinking, and then the rest of them think it's okay
to get gender surgery at 14 years old,
you're outnumbered in your family.
I think the colleges brainwash those.
Do you think it comes from colleges?
I think it does.
I don't know.
When you were at Harvard, was it crazy?
I went to college for a year.
For what?
I went to study forestry.
I didn't do too good.
I was young.
Forestry.
Forestry, yeah.
I mean, I did good in school.
I was fine.
I just didn't like going to college.
I didn't, I don't know.
I didn't fit in.
I drank back then, partying young, you know, that kind of stuff.
So, you know, didn't, and I was working too.
I enjoyed working.
When I went to college, I worked for the logging company in town
and I enjoyed it.
I drove trucks, I drove skitters and I liked it.
I liked getting up at five in the morning and going to work.
I really did.
I enjoyed it.
You know, it was, it brings, it still does,
brings pleasure to me.
I really, I really enjoyed it.
Yeah.
So I didn't do, I didn't, I had a lady,
what was she, a English teacher, I believe.
And I did a, I was kind of messing with her,
but I, sociology, and I did a report on John Wayne
or John Wayne movies.
We had to be real fancy about,
but I used John Wayne movies as my base. And I said, how great John Wayne, well, everybody loves John Wayne. Who doesn't like John Wayne movies we had to be real fancy about. But I used John Wayne movies as my base.
And I said, how great John Wayne.
Well, everybody loves John Wayne.
Who doesn't like John Wayne?
And in front of the class, she did a thing on how John Wayne was a racist.
And I'm looking at her and I'm like, what?
I don't even know what you're.
I was already, I was 25 years old.
I had been around a little bit, you bit, lived in the service and stuff.
I was already out of the Army.
And I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about, lady.
She goes, oh, yeah, it's proven.
And then she gives me all this stuff that probably came from the 70s or 60s,
all this data about how those kind of movies in Hollywood was racist in the old days.
And I'm like, I don't know.
I've lived with, you know, people of all color.
I never got the idea that John Wayne was a racist or was racist or watching a John Wayne movie was racist.
You know, I used to, I had, you know, people of color, my roommates in the service,
and we would sit around and watch John Wayne movies, you know, and nobody ever. They didn't walk out in outrage. They didn't walk out in outrage, you know, people of color, my roommates in the service, and we would sit around and watch John Wayne movies, you know,
and nobody ever walk out and walk out and outrage, you know,
so I don't know what those.
So then I was like, okay, this is what's going on here.
You know, and she wanted me to print all my stuff on.
I worked at the time.
She wanted me to, I was probably just being a smart ass for this
because I can be a smart ass sometimes.
She wanted me to print all the stuff.
Computers were just coming out like, I don't know, a word processor type thing.
So you had to put everything on a disk and that's how she wanted you to hand in your assignment.
And I'm sure she was trying to teach you how to learn computers too.
That was probably part of the deal.
I didn't have a computer and I had to work a lot.
You know, I didn't have time to stay at school and use the computer.
I would just type the stuff out at night and I didn't work a lot. I didn't have time to stay at school and use the computer. I would just type the stuff out at night.
And I didn't own a computer.
So she says, well, you have to turn it on the disk.
I said, I'd love to.
I said, I don't have a computer.
I don't have time.
She goes, well, there's plenty of computers in the library.
I said, I don't have time to stay and do that.
When I leave here, I go to work.
And then I do my stuff at night.
And then I went to the dean or wasn't the dean, might have been the dean,
it was a small college anyway, and I explained it to him, and he goes, well, yeah, I said,
I said, I'm paying you guys, like, you guys work for me, you know, you're my employee,
and he didn't, the dean was pretty good about that, but that woman was mad.
That teacher was mad.
Like, no, you guys work for me.
I'm paying, you know, it's like, I'm, when you go to college, it's just like you're paying
that professor to mow your lawn.
That professor works for you.
Of course.
You know, that you don't work for them, you know?
So she, and the dean said, it's okay.
Yeah, he can hand his stuff
he took my side
because I was working
and I was paying
tuition
it was GI bill
but I was still right
you know
I still wrote the check
and the check came to me
and
and so he was
and that woman
did not see it that way
the jobless racist lady
she did not see the fact
that she works for me
she did not get that
correlation I guess
that's how to whip up some dinner
and pressure
wash the deck. Yeah. Change oil
and rotate the tires on my truck.
Yeah.
Patrick Feeney, thank you.
Thank you, sir. It was a pleasure.
It was.
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